Adam Curry John C Dvorak April 8 2021 this is your award winning
game on nation media assassination Episode 1336. This
is no agenda. ghosting y'all and broadcasting live from
opportunity's own 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas
capital of the drone Star State in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's
business as usual for everyone around here. I'm john C. Dvorak.
Greg line buzzkill. Pass the pina colada live to tape. This
is our first vacation in I think it's 15 months. Because we had
Yeah, we had we had Christmas, Christmas time off during
Christmas? I don't think so. So it's even longer than that. We
didn't take any time off when we haven't taken a single show off
or maybe longer that way. I don't want to complain or
anything but no, I mean, we can do it. But it's like, anyway,
remember taking Thanksgiving or Christmas off? We usually and I
think we bragged about working because it was the they were off
the days they weren't like Christmas landed on a Sunday or
anything new right? Well, typically we both typically
whenever I'm traveling or even on vacations or my honeymoon, we
still done the show. Yes. But it's not that. Yeah, we really
needed a little little break just to unplug, and it might
request a rare never done before two shows. I don't think we've
been around. Now I don't think we've ever done two shows in a
row that we haven't been here. Maybe, maybe not. So all we're
doing is just praying Joe Biden stays alive until we come back.
Even if he doesn't, I mean, it makes him but it would just be
pent up demand for us.
We don't have to jump back and do
emergency broadcast quick, john, help us we don't know what to
do. We had a bunch of members that did happen to us a couple
of times in the past. Yeah, several times to do a show do a
show because they just did this in the Can't wait a couple of
days for us to actually organize information. No, What's the
rush? Because that's what everyone does. Now we jump on it
and we just talk some crap. And this is an outrage. Steven
Crowder, got d platformed. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
That's all I hear all day. Hey, so you worked. You worked. You
worked hard on this together and doing a show? I bet it did. So
this is how long is this special? little over two hours?
Wow. And it's it's all clips. It's a clip show real clips. So
it doesn't include us at all? No, I you know, I first I was
gonna include some of our commentary because there's a lot
of good stuff that we say. But then it as it develops,
especially in the first half, which you'll hear or right after
this. It just sang by itself it was the soloist I didn't really
need to put us in it because it told a story just clip clip clip
and so I didn't even try to find anything for us after the first
hour I said well this is working too well I'm not gonna I don't
need to put us in there now I'm curious how you make extremely
entertaining I'm curious how you made it because I know that I
gave you my my is my date database which is date organized
year month day a year month show Yeah. So how did you did you go
in chronological order What did you do No, no I do it it
actually is kind of in chronological order but
everything but what I did is I use that search engine you like
every everything search engines and everything yeah, it's quite
good. And so I first I searched on the big database including
stuff I have had more recent stuff and using everything and
it all cropped up and I had like the fun was the first I think it
was the first hour more than an hour is just worth Global's are
gonna say you just search for global warming and you got that
Oh, I'll bet then I had to deny did change gears and got another
hour or more out of climate change and tried green New Deal.
I think I did a I did a couple of searches on two things I
think green new deal but it wasn't as productive Believe me.
Hmm, interesting. And coral I need to get the clip in there
for the coral expert that says that the barrier reef is not a
mess at all. Oh, right. Yeah. In fact, they they turn on some
underwater speakers and everything grew back. Someone
thought I was doing a podcast somewhere like Oh, that makes
total sense. So it didn't all die. It just needed some rock
and roll. Now he didn't dice thriving according to the
expert, the number one world expert on the Great Barrier
Reef, but that's but anyway this other stuff in there. There's a
lot of it's just fun to list because there's so much
contradictory information you can tell there's two things you
notice. One is that the the warmest as we'll call them, all
sound nuts and hysterical. Okay, yeah, nothing new there. And the
people that say, well that's not true because all the normal
everyone else sounds normal that people who are saying, well,
that's questionable and, you know, that needs to be looked
into and this isn't true is is a lie. They all sound normal. And
then the other people sound hysterical. It's just like,
after two hours of listening to this, you realize that one sides
a little more probably on the ball than the other. I think.
How far back does this go? Does this go back? What 10 years? It
goes back to the first clips that we had. Wow, it goes back a
long way. Oh, no, I love it. I love it. I don't think I don't
know if it's 10 years but it goes way back. Betting Belize
nine. I'm very excited. Well, good. Well, let's start it off.
Scientists have reported 2015 was the hottest year on record
by far, the experts pin the record breaking heat on long
term global warming caused by the emission of greenhouse
gases. 2015 record breaks the previous record set the year
before and 2014. In response to the findings, Gerald Mele, a
scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research said
quote, the whole system is warming up relentlessly.
What is it? Maybe it's me, I don't know. And climate change,
scientists are taking their global warming threats to a
whole new level Outer Space reach. Researchers at Penn State
actually laid out a number of scenarios as to why aliens may
someday attack Earth and one of them is because humans are
spewing way too much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
They speculate that extraterrestrials may be so
angered by greenhouse gases. They could quote, kill us,
enslave us or potentially eat us. Both al gore and Joe Paterno
have remained silent on these new theories. So I wonder if the
faculty and students there at Penn State ever looked into the
works of Edmond north. It
was reported today that this weekend, for the first time in
human history, we have reached atmospheric levels of carbon at
415 parts per million. This has never been seen in recorded
human history. In fact, meteorologist Eric hole thoughts
and journalists said simply about this measurement and
development. We do not know a planet like this. The last time
our planet hit for 15. Within the Paleocene period. Oceans
were 90 feet higher. bacteria and diseases we have never seen
before roamed the earth.
Across the globe. The weather picture is one of fire and ice
bone numbing record cold in the Midwest, fire and record heat
and Australia 120 degrees and hotter this month. What that
really means is that fires will be uncontrollable, there'll be
fast moving and yo yo weather cycles after the deep freeze in
the US a 50 degree rebound in some cities within days. Hard to
believe when you're frozen like an icicle. But experts say that
arctic blast is in fact further evidence of climate change. And
response to President Trump's skepticism. The weather experts
at NOAA tweeting winter storms don't prove that global warming
isn't happening. Here's why. at the North Pole, scientists say
the melting sea ice and ocean temperatures have caused the
walls of the Jetstream or polar vortex to break open like a dam
in places that has allowed arctic air to escape. Rushing
south into the Midwest. Not only is greenhouse gas warming,
impacting the planet, but it's really beginning to kick in. And
it's kicking in and the parts of the planet that are most
sensitive, in particular Arctic sea ice regions and the Arctic.
So let's leave them something to think about as they go home. Let
them go home and say Mr. Soros said here are three things we
can do simply one,
work on a better world order, where we work together to
resolve problems that confront humanity like global warming.
And I think I think that dealing with global warming will require
a lot of investment. You see, for the last 25 years, the world
economy, the motor of the world economy that has been driving it
was consumption by the American consumer who has been spending
more than his been saving, right.
And he's been producing. So that motor is now switched off. It's
finished, it's run out of
can't continue. You need a new motor. And we have a big problem
of global warming requires big investment. And that could be
the motor of the vertical anami in the years to come to remember
in building infrastructure, converting to green technology
instead of consuming
building electricity grid and saving on energy or rewiring the
houses, adjusting your lifestyle, where energy is, it's
got to cost more, until you introduce those new things. So
it will be painful, but at least we will survive and not cook.
And there was a Gallup poll in this country a few weeks ago
that said, despite
rising temperatures, and all of this strange weather we've been
having the percentage of Americans who care a great deal
about global warming has been dropping from 41%, six years ago
to 34%. Today, what is it about human nature that wants to
believe the worst can happen? i? I don't know. I don't know.
Well, this was also the day that government scientists said 14 of
the last extreme weather events were made worse by climate
change caused by pollution. Examples cited included the 2014
California wildfires, and cyclones in Hawaii. The study
found that in 2014, extreme heat waves like the one that gripped
South Korea were made worse by human caused climate change
things such as car emissions, burning coal and methane gas.
The reports study 28 extreme weather events around the world
last year, 14 of those including devastating floods in Australia
and New Zealand were found to be made worse in part by climate
change. But the impact of human activity can be complex. The
report says this is the fourth year scientists have studied
weather, extreme human a weather human activity is at least
partially to blame for extreme weather things such as droughts
and wildfires. And over those years, Scott, more than half of
the extreme weather events they've studied, have been
linked to human caused climate change. I don't see people
trying to repeal the law of gravity, just because they're
gaining weight, right? I didn't see people trying to repeal
equals mc squared because it's somehow conflicted with their
political philosophies. And these are the emergent
scientific truths. So I'm disappointed when I look around
and I see people cherry picking the consensus of observation and
experiment that has emerged in science. That is the anatomy of
a scientific truth. By the way, there are always some results
that short dangle and linger with the emerging scientific
truth is when multiple research investigations by different
people who would typically be in competition with one another,
from different branches of science, who have an incentive
not to confirm Oh, yeah, that's a very important point. Yeah.
There's the idea behind the whole, like, bizarre crypto
conspiracy theory about global warming is somehow everyone's
like working in concert, when in fact, everyone individually is
the opposite of the thing just to get to the nitty gritty, do
you believe that it's been proven that co2 is the primary
control knob for climate? Do you believe that? No, no, I think
that that measuring with precision, human activity on the
climate is something very challenging to do. And there's
tremendous disagreement about the the degree of impact that so
So no, I would not agree that it's a primary contributor to
the to the global warming that we see. Okay, all right. We
don't know that yet. As far as we need to, we need to continue
the debate and continue to review and analysis. It's, it's
it's a I agree. When I hear the science is settled, it's like I
never heard that. Science actually gotten to a point where
it was that's that's the whole point of science is that you
keep asking questions. You keep asking questions, but I don't
want to be called a denier. So, you know, scares me as if it's a
terrible thing to be called. Anyway, administrator Pruitt. I
know you don't want to call that here. Thanks for being with us
this morning. Appreciate?
Well, we're gonna bring in our science guy, Bill Nye and you
know, talk about something else that's falling from the sky. And
that is an asteroid. Oh,
what
what's coming our way? Is this an effect of of perhaps global
warming? Or is this just some Yorick occasion?
Or you're present? you calling me a denier? That is a word
meant to put me down. I'm a skeptic about climate change.
And I want to make it darn clear. Mr. Kennedy is not a
scientist. I am. He's the CEO of the Weather Channel. Now. I was
the founder of The Weather Channel as the co founder. And
I'm glad you did because I am addicted to the Weather Channel.
Now, hold on a minute, I'm not done. And CNN has taken a very
strong position on global warming. That is that is a
consensus. Well, there is no consensus in science and isn't a
vote, scientists about facts. And if you get down to the hard,
cold facts, there's no question about it. Climate change is not
happening. There is no significant manmade Global
Warming now, there hasn't been any in the past. And there's no
reason to expect any in the future. There's a whole lot of
baloney. And yes, it is has it has become a big political point
of the Democratic Party and part of their platform. And I regret
it's become political instead of scientific. But the science is
on my side, I don't think we're gonna have a conclusion about
the topic right here. What I do want to
allow it to happen on CNN, but I'm happy to get on
your feet, your viewers, Hello, everybody. What I do no global
warming. What I do wonder is when you see the government,
when you see NASA, when you see other institutions say that 97%
of climate scientists agree, do you think they're making it up?
I What I don't understand is how you figure and let me explain it
to you. The government puts out about two and a half billion
dollars directly for climate research every year, it only
gives that money to scientists, who will produce scientific
results that support the global warming hypothesis of the
Democrat Party position. So they don't have any choice. If you're
going to get the money, you've got to support their position.
Therefore 97% of the scientific reports published support global
warming, why? Because those are ones the government pays for.
And that's where the money is. It's real simple. But that
doesn't mean it's right. That doesn't make it true. That only
makes it button paid for the money goes in circles. So I like
to thank you. And I'm trying to do another one. And
and I'm actually, I mean, it sounds perverse to many people,
I'm proud of having done the book about global warming.
I knew everybody was gonna be against me. And I thought, This
is what I believe. And I'm sorry. And I said it. And I did
it. And I've taken just flack for it. But you know, it is what
I believe. And because of you, you went into
rough seas, very rough seas, and nasty and personal and brutal
and unfair and mean, well, what was nasty mean? Oh, Charlie,
this is I mean, you got to look at what people say. For example,
when I started talking about genetics, people said, Well, you
know, you might get some criticism for this. Well, I
haven't got any criticism for genetics, let me tell you
know, that criticism is, but
I've had the experience of having had books in print for 40
years. So I can go back and look at the stand that I took in
favor of abortion when I was a medical student in Boston in
1967, six years before Roe v. Wade, and I can look at that and
go was I right or not? And I think what I was right. And I'm
imagining when I wrote this, but when I wrote the state of fear,
I was imagining what's it going to look like in 40 years?
I think I want to come out just fine. So what does this have to
do with the global warming? Because global warming is a an
anomaly.
Based on hyped up by this generation, for something to
bitch about? We've had it we had a 55,000 years ago, we had a
300,000 years ago. But to blame it on us is bullshit, isn't it
not accelerated by humans? 100,000,000th of a percent? Who
cares? So this is just a scam and a sham. And all I'm jealous
of vice president What's his face? gore Gore. So um, I think
the the key thing that we need to get out there is that there's
a lot of things about climate change, we still don't know. We
spent a lot of time in the last 1520 years focusing on the
extinction of big charismatic wildlife. And we've thought a
little bit about how that might impact their parasites. But the
direct impacts of climate change on parasites haven't been as
well studied. So our our research comes out and sort of
does this global survey and really thinks through Okay,
well, how good or bad could climate change be for parasites,
and it turns out that parasites follow the same logic most
species do. A handful do a little bit better in a changing
climate. And the vast majority actually do a lot worse, they
lose a lot of habitat, they lose their house, they face very high
extinction rates. So I think one of the really cool things about
parasites is that we have undervalued them for decades.
And that means that when it turns out they actually serve
important roles in ecosystems, it's a little more surprising.
parasites are a huge part of what holds ecosystems together.
They can be the majority of biomass in an ecosystem. They
can be 80% of the links in a food web. They control wildlife
populations, they keep populations down, just like
predators do. And just like predators in the 18th and 19th
century when we were eradicating them.
parasites are obviously a hard sell but Turns out they play
this important regulatory role. And what we think could happen
in a changing climate is, with these very high extinction
rates, the loss of that stabilizing role could produce
opportunities for new patterns of wildlife and human disease
that are genuinely concerning. So what he did was, he took the
modern instrumental temperature record and grafted it on to the
end of the tree. Right, it
sounds like you're saying
he cherry picked a particular tree sample that gave him the
data that he wanted for the early part of the record, and
then use the latest temperature data grafted on to create this,
this this huge spike the blade? Yeah. And of course, the thing
is, when you look at that blade, that sudden up pretty
temperature that he has is the blade of his hockey stick. It's
the accuracy of it is plus or minus 33%. Okay, so how did this
become the iconic graph that everybody referred to, and that
has driven so much of the climate discussion,
because because these people were were being paid and worked
at the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change, and that their goal was to show that humans
were causing global warming and climate change. And therefore,
they created the data that justified that. And of course,
the hockey stick showed up until the humans and their industry
appeared in the 1880s. The temperature was going down
slightly and was almost level and then all suddenly, boom,
there it is. That's proof that humans are the cause. That's the
whole objective of everything they've done.
A Dutch court ruled today that the Netherlands must cut
greenhouse gas emissions to climate ruling ordered
reductions of at least 25% below 1990 levels by 2020.
environmental activists said the case lays the legal groundwork
for similar action in other countries.
The White House defended the president today against a world
of opposition to his decision to withdraw from the Paris Climate
accord. The deal signed by nearly 200 countries commits
them to voluntarily reduce pollution linked to global
warming. The president's chief defender heads the agency whose
mission is in its title environmental protection. Ship
read begins our coverage. The President made a very courageous
decision yesterday in the AF America, EPA chief Scott Pruitt,
a leading voice and convincing President Trump to get out of
the Paris Climate accord today defended him against worldwide
condemnation. We have nothing to be apologetic about as a
country. Other top White House officials hit the airwaves,
making clear the President was focused not on the environment,
but on jobs putting the American worker the American economy
first because he
promised to protect American jobs American interests American
workers.
It's a position that appears to have limited political downside.
A CBS News poll found that when asked what is the single most
important problem for the government this year 13%
volunteered that it's the economy and jobs just 2% said
the environment and global warming
electroplate restaurant chain is warning its investors about the
risks of global warming. In its annual report. The company says
climate change might eventually affect the availability of key
ingredients such as avocados, it's added to Livermore National
Lab prediction that hotter temperatures will cause a 40%
drop in California avocado production over the next three
decades. The company says that issue could eventually drive up
prices and forced to take items such as guacamole on the menu,
the International Energy Agency is predicting global greenhouse
gas emissions will drop a record 8% this year as air travel
vehicular traffic and oil use has plummeted across much of the
globe due to the corona virus pandemic. But the IAEA warns
emissions may soar again unless governments invest now in clean
energy. This comes as a new study by NASA finds that 5000
Giga tons of ice have melted in Greenland and Antarctica over
the last 16 years producing enough water to fill Lake
Michigan shoe on this before it's gone. In news that's not so
sweet. Business Insider reports there's a chocolate shortage and
experts say it's on track to vanish by 2050
What on earth can we do about it called Mars the candy company
that is Mars incorporated is working with scientists at the
University of California Berkeley to develop cacao plants
that won't wilt. In the simplest of terms warmer temps and drier
conditions are killing cow plants. Thankfully brainiacs at
UC Berkeley developed gene editing technology that lets
scientists in the Candy Company tweak the crops DNA. This is
important because over half of the world's chocolate now comes
from two countries in West Africa, according to the
International Business Times, but in a few decades, these
areas won't be suitable for the plants. If all goes well instead
of relocating them uphill in an area preserved for wildlife, the
plants won't rot or will where they are, and we get to enjoy
more chocolate. So thank you you see Berkeley Mars in the gene
editing tool, you could call them The Three Musketeers. See
what I did there?
Millions of people have taken part in protests as part of
global action against climate change. Demonstrations have been
held in around 150 countries, as calls grow for governments to
take a stronger lead in tackling the crisis. Now I'm joined by
skies climate change correspondent Hannah Thomas
Peter, who's in New York, where a un summit on global warming
will be held on Monday, Hannah, what has prompted this worldwide
day of action? Well, it's been organized, or shall we say
inspired by Friday's for future,
which was really started by Greta tunberg,
the young girl from Stockholm has become a kind of global
icon, a person who represents the voices of millions and
millions of schoolchildren who followed her example and start
is striking from school on Fridays. Every few months or so
there is a global school strike and those school strikes have
been growing. This is potentially the largest one to
date, we've got 150 different countries involved 2500 separate
strikes across the world. We're looking at potentially millions
of people on the streets today in what could be one of the
largest climate protests in history. And the idea is at this
point, for it not to be just schoolchildren, demanding action
and change on a defining issue of our time, but to get adults
to join and stand beside them. A new study shows the number of
people who could be displaced by sea level rise this century due
to global warming is much higher than previously thought with
more than 13 million people at risk nearly half of them in
Florida. Those numbers are about three times higher than previous
estimates for displacement. Deepak Mishra elaborated on the
findings.
I think there are certain layered approach that can be
that can come from stem from this research.
This is Jim Hanson at Jim Hanson. By the way, if we go
back in 1988,
he was asked by a reporter
How do you see things in 40 years and he says what you see
the highway down here, the western highway outside of his
office, not going to be there anymore.
Based on a doubling of co2 from pre industrial times, well,
right now we've gone
25 years into the 40 years, we've had one inch of sea level
rise, there are 10 feet to go for him to make his prediction.
And it's got to happen within the next 15 years.
You take a look at the SEC. This is Jim Hanson slide.
Where he decided realizing that sea level was not rising. He
said it's really going to be exponential. So by the mid
century really isn't going to rise at all, he won't even be
alive here, neither ally. And yet, we're going to get four,
four meters of rise. Next is meters now feet in the last 20
years of the century.
Don't hold your breath on this one either. That's right, Judy,
was the hottest June on record going back 139 years, According
to NASA. And today, halfway into July, the National Weather
Service forecasts potentially deadly temperatures throughout
this weekend across much of the United States. This week, a
study by the Union of Concerned Scientists warn that the number
of extreme heat days could more than double by mid century, just
30 years away, if we don't change how much of those heat
trapping gases we emit. For more on where we are and where we
might be going. I'm joined by austrade called us. She's a
senior climate scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists.
Welcome.
Thank you.
The skeptics are going to say, look, it's summertime, of course
it's hot. What can you say? What does the science say about this
particular kind of a heatwave over this much of the US and how
it relates to climate change?
Well, this particular heatwave is due to a meteorological
phenomena that happens in the atmosphere. So this can happen
independently of climate change. However, this heat dome that's
leading to this heatwave is trapping warmer air because as
we know, the last 18 years all the years in this century have
been record breaking years in terms of warming, so the
thermometer is going up, temperatures are going up. So
the heat waves are likely going up also,
when ocean level rises.
Thank you for asking that question. I have the answer that
I have the answer
the question? Yeah. Okay.
So the first time we changing the gas now you're full
of shit. Sit down. I'm gonna answer you. I'm gonna shut up.
Shut up and sit down.
No way. Sit down. No, I gotta finish by Chris. You I'm gonna
answer global warming. My finish the question, answer is changing
on earth, and it's changing to co2. What do you people with the
money? What are you doing about the speaker? tell you right now?
No, I've got children. I've got 2123 year old children. And
what's the future with you people with money?
You talk about money all the time. Okay, sit down, please sit
down, please. In the front row, excuse me, in the front row,
please sit down. Okay, you've asked you a question. Thank you
very much. Okay. And 2011, my wife and I were in Antarctica,
renewing our vows. For those of you that don't know, an Arctic
is on a mountaintop. And there is a $500 million facility,
scientific facility there. And the scientists came to give us
presentations about global warming. And they had cores of
ice that they had drilled, they drove four or 5000 cores, and
they only brought 15 or 20. So they're going through the second
or third core. And they said a 275,000 years ago, this was the
temperature level. And then 55,000 years ago, the world was
two degrees warmer Celsius than it is today. This is 2011.
And he said, and I said, Well, you mean the whole world says
yes. And the polls are only benchmarks. And I said, Well,
what about the things that the young woman alluded to? Okay.
And he said, it's all cyclical. And although the gas may have
exacerbated in the cosmos of time, it's not a fart in the
wind. In the cosmos of time of the 13 point 8 billion years
that we've been on this miserable planet, it's not a
fart in the wind. Now my direct answer to your question, if that
were really true, would you believe and let's just for a
moment, say that it is true. That means that the best
scenario visa v global warming is about 10 feet raise in water,
that's the best scenario over the next 4050 years. That's the
best scenario. If the water on the planet is going around, rise
up 10 feet, that means the southern part of the United
States has gone. England has gone most of Europe has gone and
I can go most of Central America has gone. Okay? If that's the
case, let's just take Florida for example, which is one of the
fastest going condominium beachfront condominiums on the
planet. In the perspectives when you invest, there should be in
the footnotes. If global warming is for real, they will put it
that way. Global warming happens and water rises 10 feet, this
investment you made is
now one single investment perspectives written since 2000.
This century has alluded to global warming. Now one
motherfucker, if it were really true, the bench wouldn't invest.
The banks wouldn't finance now one motherfucking. condominium
so the people that have the money, and I'm jealous of the
Vice President Gore, which Shaolin I wrote in a plane from
South America with fears of I am jealous, he came up with a scam
before I did, because the financial institutions, the
banks of this world, no, it's not gonna happen. Otherwise, you
couldn't get a goddamn loan in London. You know those 3040 year
mortgages. The war will be over by then. Is Barclays Bank going
to give you a motherfucking loan with the greatest respect bam,
it's the greatest fraud that's been perpetrated on mankind this
century.
From heat waves to back to back hurricanes. One San Jose State
professor says get used to it and may become our new normal.
Tonight she told capex wise Maria Medina, it is all
connected to climate change.
Back to Back hurricanes, Irma, Jose, Katia and Harvey which
devastated parts of Texas, it's gonna
be a 500 year flood or 1000 years. It's ridiculous.
are all signs of what San Jose State meteorology professors
like Alison Bridger, there is the hurricane you can see the I
really well have taught students for years. The oceans are
warming up just as the atmosphere is warming up. She
says recent weather events across our country are proof of
global warming. And now she says it's catching up to us. We've
been teaching about this stuff for over 20 years and we're
still not doing anything about it. Another piece of evidence
that climate change is happening According to Professor Bridger
our own record breaking heatwave over the week. And so hot it
even caused equipment problems and delays for Bart. It's not
like we broke the record by a teeny bit. We broke the record
by a lot. So the question is, is this the new norm? I would tend
to think so. So what exactly does that mean? The professor
says climate change means more and longer heat waves or cold
weather, droughts and even extreme rain events like
hurricanes, Harvey was probably able to grow strong because of
the super warm temperatures in the ocean in the Gulf of Mexico.
Global concentrations of carbon dioxide have reached levels not
seen for 2 million years. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration said today, the monthly average crossed that
line in March. It also said concentrations of heat trapping
gas are rising at a record pace.
In climate news. A major new study published in the journal
Science finds the world's oceans are absorbing heat at a far
faster rate than previously predicted of finding with
troubling implications for the future of life on Earth. The
study found greenhouse gas emissions are warming the oceans
40% faster than even the dire predictions made by the UN's top
climate scientists five years ago. The authors write quote,
this warming has contributed to increases in rainfall intensity,
rising sea levels the destruction of coral reefs,
declining ocean oxygen levels and declines in ice sheets
glaciers and ice caps and the polar regions. Across Europe a
cold wave kept much of the continent in the Deep Freeze
today. In Paris layers of snow covered much of the city,
disrupting travel in sub zero weather. And off the Normandy
code. The famed tidal Island multi family shell was
surrounded by snow and ice are rarity.
Boston has finally set a dubious new record most snow and a
single winter. The city got nearly three more inches on
Sunday pushing the seasonal total to 108.6 inches. That's
more than nine feet of snow and the most since Boston began
keeping records in 1872.
This snow had many and taho today saying so much for summer.
The National Weather Service said up to five inches is
expected in the higher elevations of the Northern
Sierra. Here's the view from our KPI x five Sierra camp. These
conditions force the weather service to issue an advisory
through tomorrow. Warning drivers to be ready for winter
driving conditions
in June.
It's the biggest warning from the science community yet a call
for action. The IPCC report is clear, urgent and unprecedented
changes are needed to keep global temperatures from rising
to unbearable levels. Limiting warming to 1.5 degrees is not
impossible, but will require unprecedented transitions in all
aspects of society. There are clear benefits to keep warming
to 1.5 degrees Celsius compared to two degrees or higher, every
bit of warming matters. The 2015 Paris Agreement aimed at keeping
a global temperature rise this century well below two degrees
Celsius above pre industrial levels. But the IPCC is new
report shows that the effects of global warming would already be
disastrous with a 1.5 degree increase 1.5 degrees would cause
a rise in global water levels of about 48 centimeters 56
centimeters if temperatures were to rise to degrees, the impact
on the environment would be even more important. a rise in two
degrees would cause the extinction of 18% of all insects
16% of all plants and 8% of all vertebrates, not to mention the
effect on human populations, limiting global warming to 1.5
compared to two degrees would reduce the number of people
exposed to climate related risks and susceptible to poverty by up
to several 100 millions by 2050. Limiting global warming to 1.5
degrees Celsius comes with a hefty price tag, some 2.1
trillion euros would have to be invested every year for 25
years. For example, you know if you if you tell people that okay
85 years down the road, you know 13 million people will be
affected if we take the most extreme projection which is 1.8
meter sea level rise by 2100. But I think we need to take the
study forward by doing another study of what is the impact of
sea level rise right now. In terms of you know, frequent
coastal flooding,
global warming is changing horror movies and it's not
likely to stop anytime soon. Hello, I'm Jenna. I haven't met
master's degree in media and culture and I've spent years
studying horror media and video game cultures and living on this
planet three things I love to do, which is why I like many are
concerned about the increasingly irreversible damage we're doing
to the planet. What does that have to do with horror? Well,
we're seeing the growth of an entirely new sub genre of
horror, which isn't necessarily unusual genres are created and
abandoned all the time in connection with societal
changes, like in the mid 20th century, when every TV show and
movie was a Western, or last year when every movie was a
superhero film. Right now we're seeing the emergence of eco
horror stories in which the planet itself is the monster
is global warming causing goats to shrink. That's what
researchers from the UK Durham University are claiming.
Researchers say smaller goats are evidence that global warming
is impacting animal size. Durham researchers studied the body
size of Alpine shammy mountain goats over three decades, and
found that young shammies today weigh 25% less than their peers
did in the 1980s. Researchers linked shrinking body sizes to
increasing temperatures.
So a jeweler in Wilmington, North Carolina took a pretty big
gamble, but it was his customers who won big, the store promised
to refund everything customers bought if it snowed more than
three inches in Asheville on Christmas Day. Well, it snowed
more than three inches, in fact, more than six inches. And that
really made Christmas special for at least one family. It is a
gamble. And
luckily it worked out for us, it's only gonna be about $150.
But with my family to $550 goes a long way. So getting $150 back
can be really nice.
Well, that store sold half a million dollars in jewelry
during the promotion. The most expensive item was a $12,000
engagement ring, the couple plans to use that refund to pay
for the wedding
on the on the issue of climate change. I believe the climate
changes, I believe in variations in the in the climate throughout
history. And that's documented. Yes, that's not the controvert
The facts are these, the facts are these and this is by the
National Oceanographic agency, that from 1975 until about 2000.
The global mean surface temperature increased by about a
half a degree centigrade since 2000. It has not increased at
all bullshit.
Government. But let's assume for a moment, there's no climate
change. Why isn't it the religious God fearing thing to
do to protect our Earth under any circumstances? Why is it?
Why should it Why can't?
That's a strong man. Everybody agrees that we should be good
good stewards of God's creation. Everybody agrees on that we're
all for cleaner reducing carbon emissions. The problem is the
unintended consequences. Let me just give you one example. You
probably supported when you were in Congress, certainly the Bush
administration did an ethanol mandate that would say that 10%
of the gasoline when you went to the pump, would be ethanol.
Okay, for purposes of lowering carbon emissions. What people
didn't calculate is a third of the US corn crop got diverted to
gasoline. What happened? relief agencies trying to feed the poor
in Africa, in Mexico, where a third of the population lives on
$5 or less a day there were right about efficiency by 50.
Double but didn't it? Rain bread?
Didn't Rain, rain? Oh, whatever.
I'm a commercial crapper. And I've been working in the
Chesapeake Bay for 50 plus years, and I have a crab house
business out on the water. And the water level is the same as
it was when the place was built in 1970. I'm not a scientist,
but I'm a keen observer. And if sea level rise is occurring, why
am I not seeing signs of it? We're our island is
disappearing. But it's because of erosion and not sea level
rise and plus we get us a wall we lose. We will lose our
island. But back to the question Why? Why am I not seeing signs
of the sea level rise? What do you think the erosion is due to
Mayor wave action storms as that increased? Any? Not really. So
you're losing the island even though the waves and have an
increase? Yes, this this erosion has been going on, since Captain
john smith discovered the island and named it. Yeah, well, it's
gotten to our doorstep now and we focus on it more well,
arguments about signs aren't necessarily going to be of any
comfort to you and I'm sorry for what you're going through and
your neighbors on Tangier island. I read about you in the
paper. There was an article in The Washington Post, I believe,
after President Trump called you up and won't necessarily do any
good for me to tell you that the scientists do say that the sea
level is rising in the Chesapeake Bay and that you've
lost about two thirds of your island already in it over a
longer period of time. And that the forecast for the future is
another two feet of Sue, what would another if if there was
another two feet of sea level rise? What would that mean for
Tangier island? Tangier Island, is our elevation is only about
four feet above sea level. Yeah. And if if I see sea level rise
occurring, I'll shout it from the housetop. Okay, and then we
don't have, you know, the land to give up. But I'm just not
seeing it. Yeah, okay. Well, one of the challenges of this issue
is taking what the, what the scientists say, and, and
translating it into terms that are believable to people with
that where they can see the consequences in the in their own
lives. And, and I get that, and I try every day to figure out
ways to ways to do that fortune, because
on some of them, you may think, Well, you know, I can follow her
on Xs, you but on why? That is the reality. She's wrong. Well,
let's have a discussion about that. So I'll start with perhaps
the most contentious of all, which is manmade global warming.
And I will put my cards on the table. And I will say there is
little, if anything, to support the idea that something
extraordinary and unprecedented is happening to the climate. For
example, it was warmer 1000s of years ago, for example, the link
between carbon dioxide and temperature is not
straightforward. For example, the seas are not rising, the ice
is not shrinking, the polar bears are not vanishing. And our
gore did not deserve his Nobel Prize. There has been no
significant warming since 1995. Despite the fact that we're told
that if carbon dioxide increases, the temperature will
increase. Carbon Dioxide has increased the temperature has
not increased. And the most important thing of all, is that
the argument that the climate which is possibly the most
complex system, that there is the idea that it a can be
predicted, and b can be altered by changing one component is
absurd. So here is now what I worry about very much is the
conference going to be in Paris in November. And I really worry
about that. Because where the conference was in, in
Copenhagen, that almost became a disaster, but nothing got
decided. But now I think the people who are alarmist, I've
been very strong physician. And so the Physical Society always
have made up their mind. So I don't have to worry about them.
But the facts are, that in the last 100 years or so we
have measured the temperature has gone up point eight degrees,
and everything in the world has gotten better.
So how can they say it's gonna get worse? When we have the
evidence that if it's true that they can measure at least they
believe it, or the temperature going up point and agree,
everything we live longer, we have better word, better health,
better everything. But we forgot one other point eight degrees,
we're going to die I guess. And I say this to Obama, excuse me,
Mr. President, prove you're wrong. He is dead wrong. And I
said that once in a while I will partner add in a Time Magazine.
And I said the same thing. Because he he I think Obama is a
clever person. But he get bad advice. At a global warming,
he's all wet. See, I would say that the global warming
basically is a non problem. Just leave it alone take care of
itself. It's quite a special moment when we come out of the
forest. Come over this rice and bam right in front of us is this
huge, giant white face of the snout and the end of the glass
here and we just kind of had a moment of taking it in and him
realizing this is why he's fought so hard for all he's
doing to try and protect our planet. Your most problems in
the world, as tragic as they may be, are fixable. You can reverse
trends. This is one of those trends where if it starts
accelerating too fast, then we we can be through light. Because
when the planet warmed beginning in 1976, the temperature of the
stratosphere started to drop. That's a prediction of
greenhouse theory. That's not intuitive. You know, the great
philosopher of science, Karl Popper said, if you can meet a
difficult prediction with your theory, you can continue to
entertain your theory. So the theory is right but the
application of it is wrong. It is nowhere near as warm as it's
supposed to be. The computer models are making systematic
dramatic errors over the entire tropics, which is 40% of the
earth. And it's where all our moisture comes from, or almost
all of it. And let me stop. Yeah. Who does these computer
models, governments, there are 32 families of computer models
that are used by the United Nations, each government
sponsored. And all of them are predicting Far, far too much
warming, the disparity between what's been predicted to happen,
which looks like this. And what is happening continues to grow.
We know that for a fact. Yeah, you can, because you can just
look at the weather balloon temperatures, you can look at
the satellite temperatures, you can look at something called the
reanalysis data, they all behave in concert. So they're showing
the same thing. And the same thing is a lot different than
this thing. However, one model works. And you know what it is?
It's the Russian model. So let me get this. So all the
government models are like this. Yeah.
The Russian model is like this
Russia model as the least warming in it, and the Russia
model is the least warming. And the Russia model pretty much
follows reality. Yeah. What's been tested over a few decades?
Yeah. Correct. You know, if we were rational about this, think
about the daily weather forecasts, you know, you watch
The Weather Channel, all this model says that that model says
that we think this one's working the best. So we're going to rely
on that. Well, for climate forecasts, we should be using
the Russian model, but we're not we use this big spate of all the
other models that have this warming in them that's not
occurring. Why are all these other government models? 31 of
them are
wrong, and why do they all go in the same direction? up? Because
they are what is called parameterised? That they're all
parameterised. Can I translate parameterize into English
fudged? Okay? The don't get the right answer don't know the
right answer for certain phenomena. So we essentially put
in code steps that give us what we think it should be. And the
systematic error that was made was, the models were tuned, as
it said, tuned, tuned to simulate the warming of the
early 20th century began in 1910. And in 1945, about point
four five degrees Celsius mark, that could not have been caused
by carbon dioxide, because there wasn't that we had to put enough
in that the background carbon dioxide concentrations 280 parts
per million. When the second first warming started, it was
298 parts per million. If the atmosphere is that sensitive to
an 18 ppm change in co2. We wouldn't be talking about this
right now. We'd be sweating bullets. pollen counts across
the country are exploding 30% of the country tonight is in the
medium high range. The areas in red here on your screen are
where it's worst. Errol Barnett reports from North Carolina,
when an annual Rite of Spring collided with an incoming
thunderstorm in North Carolina recently, the pictures look like
Armageddon. Or Paul mageddon as photographer Jeremy Gilchrist
described his drone footage showing tree pollen hovering in
the atmosphere. It left a thick yellow pollen film, everything
outside coated by the male flower seed. So doctor, these
are the culprits right now. Anyway, yeah, these are the bad
actors you see. So sort of the tallest ones their big towering
pine trees. A recent study analyzed pollen data from 17
locations across the globe and found that climate change may be
making things worse. allergists Dr. David Fitts you know, as we
see, climate change evolving, holiday seasons tend to start
earlier, they tend to last longer, and the absolute pollen
counts are much higher. Last week, the pollen count in North
Carolina was the highest of the year at more than 3200 grains
per cubic meter of air are very high. And this video from
Tennessee shows just how much pollen is visible throughout the
South. That's bad news for the more than 50 million Americans
with seasonal allergies. you address the UN recently. Yeah,
you did. What are you shocked you did you were there? I think
so. Yeah, it was that was quite an honor. What were you talking
about climate change. And it was about the fact that we've been
talking about climate change for 20 years is time to stop talking
about and do something about it. So urgency was a theme in
speaking why there's still deniers. Well you can use you
can answer that as well as I can look at the weather tonight. If
you belong To a certain group of people that are afraid of
change, which I think some people are, and so they're going
to deny change when it happens. So they just deny but it but it
isn't even isn't it obvious that with long ladies to you and to
me, but and probably it's to them, but they don't want to
admit it, because it means they're gonna have to accept
change, or they got to give up something. But I don't know what
the deal is. What do you think of Obama's Clean Power Plan?
Well, I like his plan. I mean, I think, look, it's it's puzzling,
because he doing so many great things, things I really do
support. When it comes to the Arctic drilling, and I can't put
that one together. I just can't put that one together. Because
if once you start that, you know, once you drill in the
Arctic, you're looking at the end game, I think. And so that's
puzzling to me, because he's doing so many good things, which
I totally support. And then something like that comes
around, you say, well, what's going on? I it's kind of hard to
figure out.
Are you endorsing someone for president?
Yes, I have just decided to endorse my longtime friend,
Senator Clinton, I think that Bernie Sanders is over
promising. He's insensitive to the plight of black people. And
what good is if you don't take lobbyist money, and you don't
acknowledge the number one threat to America into the world
is the factory farming lobby, because it is poisoning the
planet quickly. And it is poor, it is poisoning its inhabitants.
So that the shift has to be made away from the animal product
away from the beef industry, specifically, but all the animal
products into a plant based diet, or there will be no
planet. And in the next 50 years, we won't even have an
ocean. And when the oceans die, we die. So we must change the
rate at which we consume animals. And we cannot have a
lobbyist take advantage of all our natural resources in order
to poison the planet. And its people. I asked him about it.
And he was he brushed it off, even though he knows that you're
earthquake. And certainly all of these storms are a result of
factory farming. We now have all the proof in the world, that
fact that climate change is man made, and we have to do
something to derail it. So, aside from his insensitivity to
black voters,
do you really think Bernie Sanders is insensitive to the
needs of the black?
agenda? Yes, he's insensitive in in a number of ways. And I would
get into it if we had time. But I think setting the Clinton has
been sensitive, supportive of progressive agenda. She's
realistic in what she can get done. She, she's able to beat
the Republican candidate. And I think that Bernie Sanders would
not be able to, could lose. And I don't want to take that
chance. Is it correct, that the satellite data over the last 18
years demonstrate no significant warming?
No. How is it incorrect?
based upon our experts, it's been refuted long ago. And
there's no long it's not up for a scientific debate. I'm curious
if it's so it's, I want to understand this. I do find it
highly interesting that the President of the Sierra Club
when when asked what the satellite data demonstrate about
warming, apparently is relying on staff so So
the nice thing about the satellite data is these are
objective numbers. Correct? And the numbers over the last 18
years, you're familiar with the phrase the pause?
The answer is yes. And essentially, we rest on our
position and to what you said you are familiar with the pause.
So to what does the phrase the pause, refer? I'm sorry, you
said you were familiar with that term. So I asked to what does it
refer
essentially as a slowing in global warming during the 40.
Sir, during the 40s?
Is it not the term that the global warming alarmist have
used to explain the Inconvenient Truth? To use a phrase
popularized by former Vice President Al Gore, that the
satellite data over the last 18 years demonstrate no significant
warming whatsoever? global warming alarmists call that the
pause. Because the computer models say there should be
dramatic warming. And yet the actual satellites taking the
measurement, don't show any significant warming, whatsoever
to 97% of the scientists concur and agree that there is global
warming and anthropogenic impact with our doors. The problem with
that statistic that gets cited a lot is it's based on one bogus
study. And indeed your response. I would point out your response
is quite striking. I asked about the science and the evidence,
the actual data, we have satellites, they're measuring
temperature, that should be relevant and your answer was Pay
no attention to your lying eyes and the numbers that the sad
lightshow instead, listen to the scientists who are receiving
massive grants who tell us Do not debate the science. Today
was France's hottest day on record temperatures there
reached over 114 degrees. A heatwave from Sub Saharan Africa
has spread across large parts of Europe all week. This system
spans from the UK to Italy to the Czech Republic. In Berlin,
police deployed water cannons to salvage dying grass and trees.
in Catalonia, firefighters struggled to control a wildfire
under scorching temperatures. Tonight, Paris was baking as the
US women's soccer team defeated France at the World Cup. While
it's difficult to attribute any particular weather event to
climate change, there's growing evidence that climate change is
changing the way the jet stream flows, and that can make these
events worse. Michael Mann is an atmospheric scientist at Penn
State University this extreme heat is is due to the fact that
we're seeing these really large wiggles in the jet stream, the
jet stream slowing down so these high and low pressure systems
get stuck in place and where you get one of these high pressure
systems stuck in place like we saw last year in California you
get extreme heat.
Ken bell of San Marcos, Texas, the heat wave and floods came as
protests against the fossil fuel companies largely responsible
for climate change faced protests across the United
States. On Sunday in Santa Barbara, California residents
protested a major oil spill, which has killed wildlife and
soiled beaches in Bellingham, Washington to protesters
suspended themselves from the anchor chain of a ship to oppose
shows plans to drill for oil in the Arctic grr DeAngelo hung
from the anchor of the Arctic challenger from Friday till
Monday morning, while fellow protester Matt fuller joins her
for 22 hours on Saturday and Sunday. Meanwhile, the
University of Hawaii has voted to divest at 600 its $66 million
endowment from fossil fuels, becoming the largest university
to heed the growing divestment movement to date.
I've often heard it said that there is a consensus of 1000s of
scientists on the global warming issue and the humans are causing
a catastrophic change to the climate system. Well, I am one
scientist and there are many that simply think that is not
true. manmade global warming is no ordinary scientific theory.
This morning, the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change made up it is presented in the media as having
the stamp of authority of an impressive international
organization from the IPCC, the United Nations Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change, or IPCC, the IPCC, like any human
body is political. The final conclusions are politically
driven. This claim that the IPCC is the world's top 1500 or 2500.
Scientists, you look at the bibliographies of the people.
And it's simply not true, there are quite a number of non
scientists and to build the number up to 2500. They have to
start taking reviewers and government people and so on
anyone who ever came close to them. And none of them are asked
to agree. Many of them disagree those people who are
specialists, but don't agree with the polemic, and resign and
there have been a number that I know of. They are simply put on
the author list and become part of this 2500 of the world's top
scientists, people have decided you have to convince other
people that since no scientist disagrees, you shouldn't
disagree, either.
But that whenever you hear that in science, that's pure
propaganda.
I'm going to show my move by donation to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do Oh Yeah, that'd be fun.
I don't want to say too much but we got we got the best clips
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Yeah, totally. It's, it's outrageous. When you really put
it all together like that, and you hear it. You're right. It
just sounds like normal, sane people are saying some kind of
normal stuff, and everyone else is insane. Yeah, the insanity
comes through. It's, I don't know what to make of it, but
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I just
don't know if they're gonna do anything.
And I just, I'm so concerned with the fact that if they're
not going to change anything, then what's gonna happen to
humankind, what's gonna happen to out what's gonna happen to
the whole world.
If no one does anything, let me be very blunt about this. Coal
represents perhaps the greatest challenge to Canada or to the
world not meeting its climate change targets. Unless we reduce
coal consumption, we are not going to be able to create
create catastrophic global warming. But what we do know the
two largest impacts on temperature, are the El Ninos in
the Pacific, as well as volcanic eruptions, which shade the earth
when they put the dust and smoke in the stratosphere. So once you
account for both of those, there's not a whole lot of
warming in the planet, the conclusion we have reached is
that the world the global climate is not very sensitive to
carbon dioxide. And that can be that can occur if the climate
responds in its many facets, to release heat, when you add the
heat from carbon dioxide, so carbon dioxide does allow more
heat to be retained in the system, the climate system, but
the climate system also has many ways to allow an increased
release of heat to space. And so we think that's what's going on
that there are feedbacks that are allowing that heat to escape
and not accumulate the way models have indicated. You will
see our capital city flooded to the top of the buses. You will
see houses smashed to Flinders and boats thrown up onto the
land.
That was with a see 10 inches below what we have now.
And every responsible scientist tells us the risk of worse and
bigger ocean storms has increased because of the
emission of carbons.
Climate change, climate change era threat. How many years do we
have? Excuse me? Do you guys have a moment to talk about
climate
change?
we polled kids across Canada and ask them to recollection issues
in order of priority 74% rights, climate change is the issue most
important to them. climate scientists are now saying we
only have 12 years left after if we want to avoid catastrophic
damage. That's why we're lobbying the federal government
to lower the voting age from 18 to eight.
If we were scared, we can learn.
I can vote and then I can't.
These kids are not here to
let the kids
let the kids vote. let kids voice
the kids.
What's absolutely clear about climate change is that it's a
it's a big problem and it's urgent. And we all absolutely
need to do something about it. But yeah, what so what There's
no there's no absolute certainty over the over the over the
timescales. Sometimes we've been hearing recently about a 12 year
timescale. And in some ways that's useful to think about.
But nobody really knows whether whether 10 years might be a
timescale that we've got before something really nasty. We've
thought before we start tipping a feedback mechanism that makes
quite nasty things happening in our climate, or whether we've
got 15 years or whether we've already gone over that tipping
point.
For French wine won't be flowing quite so freely this year
climate change, making sure of that the world's number two wine
producer has seen its crop shrink due to extreme weather,
some farmers have lost 85% of their harvest due to frosty
weather. Not quite the chill shabbily that wine connoisseurs
had in mind, so much to get into more coming up later on.
But do you just very quickly do both despair about the fact that
this is you know, in America, there's a certain strain of
evangelical thinking, which says this is not happening because
God would not let this happen. And it's not just a minority
report. These people are in the White House, in in, you know, in
in Rational terms. Do we need a new president for the planet?
Well, it's
your dad's obsession, isn't it? He's got panels on the roof, the
grizzly electric car.
Is he mad? No, because it will help the, it will help the world
from global warming. Do you think so? Yeah.
Do you agree with all this?
Yes, I do. Okay, okay. Well, the
thing is, your your house is the only one in the street with
solar panels on isn't it? So what difference is this making?
It helps a lot from global warming. So we need to get other
people to do this. Yeah. So how do you how'd you get other
people to do it? We talked to them, and we let them know the
consequences of it.
Do you really walk around school saying boy go green?
Well, that's what we need to do. Okay. Yes, yeah. Yeah. All
right. All right. And so you too, as I understand it,
I've never been on a plane. There's not even a propeller
plane,
or an a glider. Why do you think that is? Because the fumes from
the plane, pollute the world? And where do your friends go on
holiday? Well, my friends usually go to like Tunis, you're
in Mexico, on planes. Sounds great. Yeah, where do you go? We
usually go to France and Germany and places like
that. Right? So you're not flying? Do you feel you're
missing out at all?
Not really, but because it's quite good as it's not polluting
the world, how much of it is some cyclical geologic history?
And even if the contribution we're making is just the one
straw that breaks the camel's back? Isn't that enough to get
you to want to curtail our behavior? I think that's
actually a really good question. I'm glad you asked that. Because
people keep telling climate scientists like, oh, the
climates always changed. And we're like, we know, we told you
that. We are essentially the people who study that we figured
that out. What percentage of the warming right now are humans
responsible for over 100% humans are responsible for more than
all of the warming because if it wasn't for us, the Earth would
be cooling very slightly, it would be because of what the
sun's doing. The sun is getting ever so slightly weaker. So
yeah, if it wasn't for us, tiny variation in the sun's output
would be making it colder. And as Secretary Kerry has recently
noted, climate change can produce effects similar to those
of weapons of mass destruction.
We know that climate change will affect
virtually every country on Earth, is after all gloma global
climate warming. Other nations around the world are also
viewing this as a national security risk. As to your
governance piece that is part of the governance piece. The
American Security projects, surveyed every country in the
world and asked if climate change was included in their
national security strategies. And 70% of nations said that it
was the development of LaGuardia Airport also goes to the issue
of climate change.
Absolutely no, we
have. We have we already are experiencing a two foot sea
level rise in our areas of near 14, which directly border
LaGuardia Airport. So we're already starting to see some
times flights get delayed because so much water and very
heavy storms is starting to kind of takeover these runways. These
areas of LaGuardia Airport are experiencing and going on are
going to be facing very extreme levels of sea level rises. And
we need to figure out we need to figure out how we're going to
either protect the airport or how we're going to adjust
basically our infrastructure to accommodate for that
California's Governor Jerry Brown announcing late Friday in
the face of global warming of climate change and of what he
calls the lack of a federal response that the state of
California is going to send its own satellite into orbit to trap
track the progress of climate change, which of course is
causing hurricanes to be stronger and more severe. I
talked to Jerry Brown at his global climate action summit
late Friday, a gathering of state, local and world leaders.
We're in the midst of hurricanes and the aftermath of hurricanes.
And you still have the president united states denying the
science of climate change. How do you counteract that? Well,
first
of all to say it's, it's really extraordinary that the President
can deny science like that. But he's in so much so many other
terror, what's the word I even have an adjective. So it's,
it's, it's bad. And how we counteract it is with his
climate summit with normal people, respecting the truth,
and communicating that with other normal people and
combating the president united states, in what are lies,
distortions, and quite frankly, bizarre behavior. So we have to
keep at it. And I'm glad you gave me a chance to answer your
question, because we can't say it enough. The President is just
wrong, Francisco alone, besides sea level rise from global
warming places at risk, $10 billion of public property and
as much as $39 billion of private property. And in fact,
the lawsuit demands the oil companies create an abatement
fund in the billions of dollars to reimburse Oakland and San
Francisco for damage related to climate change. One of the great
puzzles in climate science is why over the past 15 years,
global warming, has paused. Now, one theory is that there's less
output less energy reaching us from the sun. Another is that
industrial pollution is reflecting some of that energy
back out into space. But perhaps the most plausible answer, in
the view of many sciences lies in the oceans. If the air isn't
warming up, maybe this vast body of water is, but it's quite a
job, trying to work out what's happening, we've got to remember
that they are fleeing the deadliest countries on the face
of the planet today, compounded by drought that was caused, not
by God, not by Mother Nature, but by us. manmade climate
change, our emissions are excesses, our inaction in the
face of the facts and the science when it is that deadly
and when you're unable to grow your own food to feed yourself,
you have no choice but to come here. I don't know. I'm just
telling myself lately. Everything seems so meaningless
and empty. Go on.
Well, I know planets getting hotter and hotter. And I know
we're gonna have forest fires and droughts and floods, like
you've never seen, we're gonna have storms and hurricanes and
species are disappearing. Sometimes I just want to close
my eyes. And pretend it's not happening.
That's better.
Maybe I'm fine. Maybe it's nothing. Maybe this whole
climate change fiasco was just some sort of scam or government
scare tactic.
Man, I hope so. What's happening to me? It sounds to me like
you're suffering from grief. Climate change, grief.
Climate change grief. I mean, that's not even a thing. That is
a thing. And you are struggling with the first of five stages of
grief, denial, denial.
I don't believe it. You see, that's what I'm talking about.
Here's what I want you to do. When you leave this office,
you're going to go and confront denial head on.
Okay. All right. session is over. I don't miss each other
again next week. Okay. Have a good weekend. Dr.
Schwarzenegger. hasta lavista. Billy? Well, media
organizations, including NPR have pointed out the connection
between the polar vortex in the Midwest and climate change. I
noticed on a network news show which are often criticized for
not making that connection to climate change, David, how have
news organizations evolved in connecting these extreme weather
stories to the overall trend of climate change. CBS This Morning
are no fools in acknowledging that role. You've seen they're
sort of increasing efforts by scientists and some journalists
with specialty in the area to incorporate that as the science
seems to be clearer about not just the fact that the that man
made emissions and carbon and the warming of the environment
are present having an effect, but that you can start to make
connection to individual events. And so you're starting to hear
that that is a change. used to see particularly meteorologists
on TVs, especially local, but also national TV really resist
talking about climate, they're going to say we're talking about
weather, climate is global climate is a whole different
layer there, it's too unpredictable. Heck, we have
trouble predicting more than 10 days out. And what you've seen
is sort of a joining of meteorology and climate science
to say, yeah, these things are interconnected in a real way.
And therefore, you can start to see this in all kinds of
coverage from local TV, to you know, national newspapers. And
then there is Brian kilmeade, here on fox and friends on Fox
News listener. You know, it was true that climate change became
climate change, when global warming wasn't adding up to
global warming, it was going very cold. And then people say
with those, the temperature went up a couple of degrees, they go,
look, change it, we're still using climate change. So anytime
there's a tornado, a typhoon a flood, what did I tell you? And
then their head starts the debate, David, what about that
have we got past that where where we can recognize that
global warming is the overall trend, even if it means severe
winter storms, what climate change really means is there's
global warming and the atmosphere is warming and all
kinds of other things are warming man at the same time,
it's calling out all kinds of weather, disruption and in you
know, spikes in variables in all directions. You know, the real
thing is, in some ways, the climate change became very much
part of the political that vernacular, in the 1990s, in
part as a result of newt gingrich, the Congress that came
to power in 1995, in opposition to the Clinton White House
wanted to call it something that seemed less threatening than
global warming. And they focus group tested the phrase climate
change, and it seemed less threatening to people at a time
they're trying to hold down certain kinds of regulations.
My name is Elizabeth Curran, I'm Kenya resort and I live in
Winnipeg. Being a young person, when I find most concerning
about climate change, is that like animals can lose their
homes like polar bears if the ice melts. My name is Arthur I
am eight year and nine years old. I live
by Louis.
bit scary cuz I live near the ocean. And glacier, then also
we'll make the water go close to my house. My name is Ben museo.
I am 15. And I live in Montreal, Quebec.
I think that it's time for the governments to do big things.
But just because just because the government are doing big
things doesn't mean that people should stop doing small things
that everyone should just,
you know, without necessarily sacrificing everything yet. Just
do what they can to reduce the footprint and help us not be
doomed.
My name is myalgia stout. I'm 12 years old, and I live in
Winnipeg.
The thing that scares me the most of a climate change is
literally
everything.
It's terrifying. It's, it's kind of pushed to the side. And it's
just not knowing anything about it is kind of what scares me
about it. And just knowing that it's gonna kill us. If we don't
do anything, which we're not doing anything. That's the scary
part to me. My name is Patrick. I'm 10 years old. And I was born
in China. But now I live in Vancouver. Young children will
experience far worse than the people living right now. Also
scares me that floods, hurricanes and other natural
disasters are way more likely than in the past five years. I
think grownups should think that we actually shouldn't make an
impact and not just sit back and let it happen.
Well, a great example is the Victory Gardens. So during World
War 240 percent of American vegetables were grown at home in
the front and backyard, by the people that ate them, right. We
can farm our lawns and have community farms were so which
increases, you know, local food security. And also, you know,
you don't have emissions from transportation, but more
generally programs like transitioning industry, right so
the United States banned the production of new consumer
automobiles because they said We need all of that automobile
factory capacity to create our tanks and planes and machine
guns. And so no more no more consumer car production stop
period. Sorry. It's a fundamentally different
mentality. When you get into the mode of we faced an existential
threat, everything is on the line. And, you know, so the
government is going to do everything that it can, the
government should spend without limit to save as much life as
possible. My name is Deborah Halford. I'm the executive
director of the adaptation to climate change team at Simon
Fraser University in Vancouver.
A low carbon resilient future is a beautiful one, a lot less
noisy, polluting cars, filling up most of our urban downtown
areas, more parks, more areas for kids to play more places for
people to grow food, more shared spaces, more places where people
can come together and enjoy their environment.
I heard a very interesting presentation from a woman who
works with small children recently. And so she asks them
to draw, she says, if we carry on, and we're how we're living
in the world, what do you think the future looks like? And she
said that without fail, they draw a world
in which
everything's on fire, and everything is dead, and everyone
is sick.
Instead, I will ask the people around the world to realize that
our political leaders have failed us because we are facing
an existential threat. And there's no time to continue down
this road of madness. rich countries like Sweden, need to
start reducing emissions by at least 15% every year, to stay
below a two degree warming target, you would think the
media and every one of our leaders will be talking about
nothing else. But they never even mentioned it. Notice,
hardly anyone ever mentioned that we are in the midst of the
sixth mass extinction, with up to 200 species going extinct
every single day.
But emissions by let's say 30%. Without any. It's not like we'd
all have to go back to caves and you know, live off that on fire.
We could have electricity and smartphones and all that stuff.
Which would buy us probably another 2030 years for that
technological breakthrough. that's necessary. The reason we
don't do it is because
we are still
confused, blind.
shrouded with pain, anger.
racism.
Mommy issues
Yeah, I'm in
it. We are we are fraught with stuff.
And
and so if that's the case, then the single most important thing
that we have to invest in
it is not all and look I'm a huge supporter of science and
technological research and social science and
evidence based learning and all that good stuff. I'm people call
me Spock for a reason. I believe in reason and logic and all
these enlightenment values. But the thing that really, we have
to invest in is people. We got to get people to figure out how
they work together.
In a
how do we get people to work together in a cooperative,
thoughtful, constructive way.
on Capitol Hill police arrested 51 Youth climate activists
Tuesday, as they held a non violent sit in protest out
inside the Office of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi
demanding a green new deal and urgent action on climate change.
Philadelphia activists, Sophia ziaja of the sunrise movement
said she's compelled to act because of the historic
wildfires raging and Pelosi is home state of California.
Back in Nancy Pelosi, his home state 42 people were just burned
alive by wildfires that are described as fire tsunamis
literally do not know how to fight. And she's come to that
crisis with saying that she's going to revive a committee to
talk about evidence of climate change that maybe would have
been helpful back in 1968 when warned about climate change, but
then today is so so far from
A new study says global warming will cause a beer shortage
because barley is sensitive to extreme drought. And he could
not hope anymore that this study is wrong. A co author of the
study published Monday in the journal Nature plant said the
study is trying to show that climate change will impact your
quality of life. Is this the future of food? here in Silicon
Valley, scientists have taken cells plucked from the feathers
of a chicken. And we're using them to grow meat in this high
tech laboratory. Which means the chicken I'm about to eat is
weirdly still alive. So there we have it are just chicken
nuggets. With a little bit of Chipotle a ranch dipping sauce
there. Yeah, I'm gonna dip it in the sauce. Take a bite. It's
really tasty. It tastes like chicken. Chicken. Yeah. Although
the taste is very similar. The physicality the feel of it in
your mouth is slightly different. Right? And you know,
there are ways we can we can you know, work on getting that
together. I think, you know, there's, like I said, finding
things in the in the animal kingdom or 3d printing
scaffolding. So there's a lot of different ways we can do it.
This firm says its chicken will be on a restaurant menu by the
end of this year, probably somewhere in Asia. This is the
transition away from raising and confining animals in the way we
do. Now the reality is 99% of all the meat weed comes from
places that if we looked inside, we wouldn't be that proud of
meat production is just as responsible for carbon emissions
and climate change. As all the cars we have on the street
today. Will anyone actually want to reset, ranchers have concerns
to Missouri has already banned the use of the word meat to
label lab grown product. Whoa, whatever it's called, with
America's largest meat processor now investing in lab grown meat.
We may be about to see a new agricultural revolution. What is
the thing that worries you the most about climate? We've had
relatively stable climate, no ice ages, no hot spells. And
we've had these ice caps that have remained primarily in
Antarctica and Greenland. Oh my gosh, if you melt those ice
sheets in Greenland and Antarctica, the water levels
will rise and come to the level of the Statue of Liberty's
elbow. Okay. I am Karen Phillips wants to change climate then
read history. Go back a little bit read history has been
validated by the geology. It's been validated by so many
proxies. And what we see is climate always changes. I'm not
a climate denier. It's the people who want to have global
warming deny the climate changes. They deny what we have
known for 1000s of years climate always changes. Some people
evidently can still deny the reality is a little bit harder
to deny the 3000 deaths in Puerto Rico from Hurricane Maria
last year. Come on. How far down that rabbit hole are people
gonna follow? This is utter insanity. We have to wake up we
are alive in this moment. We are awake. I am a geologist and
geophysicist. I have a bachelor's degree in geology
from Indiana University, and a PhD in geophysics from the
University of Utah. My field of specialization in geophysics is
temperature and heat flow. In recent years, I've turned my
studies to the history and philosophy of science. In 1995,
I published a short paper in the academic journal Science. in
that study, I reviewed how borehole temperature data
recorded a warming of about one degree Celsius in North America
over the last 100 to 150 years. The week the article appeared, I
was contacted by a reporter for National Public Radio, he
offered to interview me, but only if I would say that the
warming was due to human activity. When I refuse to do so
he hung up on me. I had another interesting experience. Around
the time my paper in science was published. I received an
astonishing email from a major researcher in the area of
climate change. He said, quote, we have to get rid of the
medieval warm period, unquote. The medieval warm period was a
time of unusually warm weather that began around 1000 ad and
persisted until a cold period known as Little Ice Age to a
cold in the 14th century. warmer climate brought a remarkable
souring of prosperity, knowledge and art to Europe during the
high Middle Ages.
The existence of the middle of a war Period had been recognized
in the scientific literature for decades. But now it was a major
embarrassment. To those maintaining that the 20th
century warming was truly anomalous, had to quote the
garden reserve unquote. In 1769. Joseph Priestley warned the
scientists are really attached to a favorite hypothesis would
not hesitate to warp the whole course of nature. In 1999,
Michael Mian and his colleagues published a reconstruction of
past temperature in which the medieval warm period simply
vanished. This unique estimate became known as the hockey stick
because of the shape of the temperature graph. Normally, in
science, when you have a novel result that appears to overturn
previous work, you have to demonstrate why the earlier work
was wrong. But the work of man and his colleagues was initially
accepted uncritically, even though it contradicted the
results of more than 100 previous studies. Other
researchers have since reaffirmed that the medieval
warm period was both warm and global in its extent. There is
an overwhelming bias today in the media regarding the issue of
global warming. In the past two years, this bias has bloomed
into an irrational hysteria. Every natural disaster that
occurs is now linked with global warming, no matter how tenuous
or impossible the connection. As a result, the public has become
vastly missing misinformed. On this and other environmental
issues. Earth climate system is complex and poorly understood.
But we do know that throughout human history, warmer
temperatures have been associated with more stable
climates, and increased human health and prosperity. colder
temperatures have been correlated with climatic
instability, famine, and increased human mortality. The
amount of climatic warming that has taken place in the past 150
years is poorly constrained, and its cause human or natural is
unknown. There is no sound scientific basis for predicting
future climate change with any degree of certainty. According
to UK Government scientist on Monday, the traditional British
meal of fish and chips may soon need to be replaced due to
global climate change. cod and Haddock. Two of the most
commonly used fish for the popular dish are shifting
northward because of the warming sea temperatures. According to
Britain's center for the environment, new species like
squid and red mullet are moving into British waters from the
south. In an interview with the BBC, john pinegar, the program
director for marine climate change said I think people are
slowly becoming more adventurous. And I think people
should learn to eat what we're catching around our own waters.
In the long term, we will need to adapt our diets in the
totally different category of climate science. It was a big
study this week. And usually when climate studies come out,
we're looking at environmental impacts. What was interesting
about this one was it was looking at economic impact. Tell
us a little bit about that. Well, this one is a very
impressive study on climate change. Scientists in the
climate realm teamed up with economists, the dismal science
meeting climate science, if you will. And they looked at the
economic impacts of climate change as you project out to the
future. And perhaps the most interesting finding was that
climate change will hit different socio economic classes
differently. Here's Berkeley scientist and lead author of the
study Solomon Shang. In the south where it's hot, and along
the coast, we might see populations losing the
equivalent of 20% of their income. Whereas in the cooler
northern and western regions, we actually see that populations
might benefit a little bit because the North is tends to be
wealthier, and the South tends to be poorer. What we see is
that in the future climate change is going to increase
economic inequality within the United States. Now if the
President is going to walk away from this agreement, but it
looks like he is going to I know you agree with that, so help me
understand make the best case why he should leave Paris? Well,
I think the key point to understand is that the Paris
treaty has no discernible impact on global average temperature,
and therefore the alleged climate benefits are illusory.
This is an agreement that if every country met its
obligations, according to the conventional EPA model would
reduce global average temperature less than two tenths
of a degree in the year 2100. But of course, these countries
are mostly not meeting their obligations we just heard from
Germany, their emissions are up in each of the last two years,
the Philippines have already withdrawn from this agreement.
and India, which is allowed to increase emissions under this
Agreement is building too many coal plants even meet their
target, they're gonna go well above it. The US commitment
would only avert an increase in temperature of about 15
thousandths of a degree by the year 2100. So there's really not
much upside here but there's tremendous downside because this
agreement locks in Those EPA regulations you were just
talking about in the introduction, the Clean Power
Plan, which increased electricity prices, about 20 to
30%, that has a very negative impact on consumers across this
country with no benefit to show for it. And it also commits the
American taxpayer to pay the lion's share of the $100 billion
per year Green Climate Fund a direct wealth transfer to the
rest of the world. And so I think the reason the rest of
world likes this deal so much is that the United States cripples
itself economically, with regulations, and then it pays
the rest of the world for the privilege of doing so. Increased
foreign aid to me, that's not leadership. That's American
loser ship. And right, let me get let me get Michael
Oppenheimer here on this. There's a lot to unpack there.
But the substantive criticism that even people who favor the
Paris Agreement are it is a voluntary agreement. There are
no real binding commitments. Why do you think it is such a great
deal that we ought to stay in it? The Paris Agreement isn't
perfect, but it's an important first step. And that's why the
statements of Mr. Kirpan are totally out of context. In fact,
what's happening is, global emissions of carbon dioxide have
not increased, in fact decreased a little over the last three
years. For the first time while the global economy was growing,
because countries are moving to the new energy sources, it would
be foolish to pull out of this agreement, because number one,
it would do great harm to our relations with our allies around
the world. And secondly, it would condemn the US, the world
and future generations, our own children to a world with an
unacceptable level of climate change. And it's a real pity
a growing body of research shows climate change is bad, not just
for the planet, but for our mental health. People who've
lived through weather disasters are more prone to depression,
suicide, post traumatic stress, psychologists see more subtle
effects too. Just thinking about the impact of a shifting climate
can make you feel anxious and overwhelmed. This group of
strangers started coming together last year, they ranged
from millennials to grandparents, Dick Meyer used to
be skeptical about climate change. As the group sits in a
circle in the living room,
he tells why the problem made him emotional. And I think I
came to the conclusion that it was the loss of the future. The
future that I had lived, knowing was going to be there, all of a
sudden is gone. And that is really disorienting.
At some
point, you come to a conclusion, if you're paying attention, I
think where you just say, Whoa, this is serious. And then you
you suffer for a while you grieve.
Laura Schmidt was also struggling with the idea for
this group first came to her. She was an undergrad then
studying species extinction and melting ice caps, the human
impacts of all that made her feel heartsick, and powerless.
Then Schmidt remembered the 12 steps that self help groups use
for problems like drugs and over drinking, I have been an avid
participant in an Al anon group, the adult children of
alcoholics. And I realized that that group can be co opted
Schmid read her own steps nine of them. The first is the
standard admit there's a problem. It's a lot about
understanding your power and what you're capable of, but also
your limitations as a single human being on this planet. Yes,
people are anxious. We have climate anxiety all over the
place. These events Austrian is a washington dc psychiatrist and
climate activist every single day, we are told about what
disasters are just around the corner. And this is being
processed whether we know it consciously or not. In Utah,
Ellie herbertson says she comes to these meetings to mourn the
past and reimagine her kid's future. We don't do chit chat.
We go right to like, what's on your heart and I cry like every
week, which is no, no big, no big thing for me. I'm a huge
crier, but still like feeling like I can do that with almost
complete strangers is amazing.
You know, the atmosphere is a very thin shell around the
planet, we're putting 110 million tonnes a day of manmade
heat trapping pollution. And it's raising temperatures quite
dramatically melting all the eyes raising sea level,
evaporating much more water off the oceans causing these
incredible downpours such as the ones the UK has been
experiencing in the last few years. These climate related
extreme weather events have gotten much more frequent and
much more severe just in the last just since the first movie
came out, and the spread of tropical diseases into higher
latitudes and deeper droughts as well political disruptions. But
for all of the shocking consequences of the climate
crisis, this movie is extremely hopeful because there are also
shocking players alee shocking developments in the field of
technology where businesses have now found that just as with you
know, computer chips came down so dramatically in price even as
the computers got faster and better mobile phones flat screen
TVs, turns out solar panels and windmills and battery storage
the same way. And now it's getting cheaper to produce
electricity, electricity from renewable sources than from
burning dirty coal or gas or oil. And so we have the
solutions available to us. I'm a geologist.
And the one thing that we miss out on in looking at climate
change is the past. climates have always changed. climate
changes in the past had been greater and faster than anything
we experienced in our lifetime. And sea levels have always
changed, not by the modest couple of millimeters that
people are having connections about. We've had in the past sea
level changes of only 1500 meters. That's a sea level
challenge. And if we look back in the history of time, the
atmosphere once had a very large amount of carbon dioxide in it.
It's now got less than point 04 percent. Where did that carbon
dioxide go to it we need to chalk limestone shells and love
and we've been sequestering carbon dioxide out of the
atmosphere for only 10,000 to 500 million years. This planet
has been D gassing carbon dioxide since it first formed on
that Thursday 4560 7 billion years ago. Carbon dioxide is a
natural gas. It has dominated the atmosphere for an
extraordinary long period of time, and we now are at a
dangerously low level. If we have the amount of carbon
dioxide in the atmosphere, we would have no terrestrial
plants. Carbon dioxide is plant food. It is not a pollutant to
use words like pollution with carbon dioxide is misleading and
deceptive.
The United Nations says there will be two and a half billion
more people on the planet by 2050. Each will likely create
more carbon emissions and scientists say those emissions
could reach a dangerous tipping point by mid century. To avoid a
disaster. One man is proposing a radical idea is NPR Jennifer
Levin reports. He aims to convince people to have fewer
children. Travis reader is not a climate scientist. He's a
philosopher with the Berman Institute of bioethics at Johns
Hopkins. And his arguments are moral. When we meet he's in a
Tweety jacket and sneakers speaking to several dozen
students at James Madison University.
How old are you going to be in 2036? Are you thinking about
having kids?
How old are your kids going to be in 2036? Dangerous climate
change will be happening by then he says, and the world's poorest
nations will suffer most, even though rich countries like the
US create far more carbon emissions per capita.
So here's what's happening when I have a kid, I'm creating a
being who's doing the much greater proportion of the
contribution to the harm, and she's not going to suffer for
it, the other kid is and that seems unfair.
What about that big
climate deal in Paris? reader tell students it doesn't cut
emissions nearly enough to avoid a catastrophic tipping point.
But this might, he cites a study that finds reducing global
fertility by just half a child per woman could have a huge
impact. If it happens soon. Like many people watching where I was
overseas, I admit that I like them was shocked by the
exceptionally high bar put before one candidate and the
exceptionally low bar put before another candidate. It also
appeared that much of the press, much of the media was tying
itself in knots trying to differentiate between balance
between objectivity, neutrality, and crucially, the truth. We
cannot continue the old paradigm. We cannot, for
instance, keep saying like it was over global warming, where
99.9% of the science the empirical facts, the evidence is
given equal play with the tiny minority of deniers. I learned a
long, long time ago when I was covering the genocide and ethnic
cleansing in Bosnia, never to equate victim and aggressor
never to create a false moral of factual equivalence. Because
then if you do particularly in situations like that you are
party and accomplice to the most unspeakable crimes and
consequences. So I believe in being truthful, not neutral. And
I believe we must stop by analyzing the truth. For some
odd reason, the major driver of climate is that great ball of
heat in the sky, which would call the sun.
You heard of the first, it's really quite unusual. And we
change our distance from the Sun. Every 100,000 years, our
orbit changes from elliptical to circular. And we have a cycle of
90,000 years of cold and 10,000 years of war when one of those
warm cycles and it'd be 43,000 years, the access to the earth
changes a little bit. And every 21,000 years, we get a bit of a
wobble. Each of those orbital events put us further from the
sun. Every now and then, we get bombarded by cosmic rays coming
from a supernatural eruption somewhere out there. And if the
sun's magnetic field cannot drive these away, we start to
form low level clouds, we've got extremely good evidence that
this process has been going on for a very long period of time.
Every now and then continent start to move, and they move at
very rapid rates. They move back this much every year. And at one
time, a continent can be over a pole at another time it can be
at the equator. Those moving continents change the major heat
balance on the earth. And that's the ocean currents. The oceans
carry far more than the atmosphere. Every now and then,
because of major geological processes. We'll get a great
boat on the ocean floor of new volcanic rock that changes ocean
currents. Every year, we have 10,000 cubic kilometres of
seawater that goes through new volcanic rocks in the ocean
floor that exchanges million people in Florida, Georgia and
South Carolina are under evacuation orders to discuss how
the role of climate change has been largely
ignored in media coverage of Hurricane Matthew. We're joined
now in our New York studio by May bhuvi, Executive Director of
350 action, the political arm of the climate organization 350 dot
org. May, it's great to have you with us. We so often see the
words extreme weather and severe weather flashing and the lower
thirds of the TV screens. Where are the words climate change and
global warming? You're exactly right. And Hurricane Matthew is
unfortunately, just the latest example of a trend where the
impacts of climate change, get more serious. Politicians
continue to have a break and say not nearly enough about it. We
have unequivocal reason to know that these kinds of storms are
made worse by climate change.
We know what they're dealing with down there we see it time
and again, reporters such as myself have stood in those
waters and watch these people rebuild. can anything be done.
For us on my side of this, this is a result of climate change,
right? only gonna get worse, right? We hear this all the
time. But isn't there are not just about temperature, not just
about erosion and water. But the basic structure of this place,
how New Orleans from the weight of development and how it's been
built up, the levees is sinking that when you're there, you
stand on the ground and you look up at ships going past you in
the Mississippi. So either don't have the answer to this, except
it's gonna get worse, almost certainly will get worse
everybody. As the ocean gets warmer, which it is getting, it
expands. But think about the climate change issue every day.
There are officials in high office with responsibilities,
who mocked the overwhelming consensus of the world
scientists that human activities and the release of carbon
dioxide and other substances are altering our climate in profound
and dangerous ways. A while back, you may have seen a United
States senator trotted out a snowball during a florist speech
in the middle of winter as proof that the world was not warming
so much of what's going on. It's something that we have to treat
it as if it's a mental illness. I believe that climate change
denial is a form of a website, Martin O'Malley dot com. But you
know what I believe is the biggest issue that I think you
should be concerned about as a young person who has more time
on this planet than I do. And that is climate change. Climate
change is the greatest business opportunity to come to the
United States in 100 years, and I am the first candidate in
either party to put forward a plan to move us to a 100 percent
clean electric energy grid by 2050 and create 5 million jobs
along the way. And this is another one of those instances
Chris, where I was pointing the way forward. Look at what you
have already done in your in your state 30 to 35% of your
energy now come through clean I will win. When five oil train
protesters head to trial today those defendants noticed the
Delta five received a blessing at Seattle's Woodland Park
Presbyterian Church. The five were arrested back in September
of 2014. For blocking the tracks at BNSF rail yard and Everett,
members of the Delta five will be allowed to argue in court
that their actions were necessary because of the threat
of climate change. This is a nationally significant trial,
even globally significant because it's the first time the
necessity defense has been has been allowed and will be argued
in an American court for climate civil disobedience. During their
trial, the Delta five defendants will call two rail safety
experts and a climatologist to the stand to argue the threat of
oil trains to communities and the climate.
We need small things but we need big things. So the big
transition away from carbon dioxide and fossil fuel is
important because it has big impacts. But also on a local
scale. We need to learn how
the little
things really play a part how we can recycle more what else we
can do, stop using as much plastic bottles and our bags.
And one thing that always gets to me too is I'm the first one
to join anyone for a good cup of coffee. But bring your own mug,
right?
We're going to do that I
want to give a couple of video questions. Here's a little
Layla. Take a look.
We really want the polar bears to to have food to eat. So they
will be so there will be her and I I don't know how to fix it.
And I really want to
whaler
lately, I gotta tell you, you're not the only one. A lot of
people are working on this issue. It is a serious one
serious impact. But there are ways we can fix it. We all work
together for this.
The big question is, are we too late? That's been the pondering
question for for everyone. I know, we should all remain
optimistic. And I want to remain optimistic. But you will worry
that we are too late that somehow we've done so much
damage, we can't have somebody else. The answer to that is in
somebody else's hands. But we do know that the scientific
community has been screaming out loud for decades and other
interests have stifled their voice and manipulated this
conversation. And it's a real shame. But I'm one thing I'm
proud of that for the first time we've we've seen the world
community take this issue seriously. And if they hadn't,
there would be absolutely no hope we can't wait another four
years for people to start to listen to 99% of the scientific
community. I mean, it's it's an absurdity. And it's not about
the individual anymore. It's about we it's about we as a
species as a world community finally coming together to make
some sort of progress forward. The question whether we're too
late or not, remains to be seen. But, you know, I'm just very
happy as an environmentalist to see something happen. But can
these alarming weather events also be blamed on climate
change? Scientists say not so fast. Maybe climate change adds
a couple more warmer days or makes the warmest temperatures a
little bit warmer. I don't think you can just say that because
it's a warming world. We're seeing a record warm December,
we might be enhancing the normal pattern that would have happened
anyway by a little bit. As freakishly warm weather sweeps
the eastern US a new poll shows Republicans who have largely
denied climate change may be thinking again, Megan Casella
has the story.
And new Reuters Ipsos poll shows that a majority of Republicans
are willing to take individual steps in order to curb climate
change, and many of them are also willing to support a
presidential candidate who was looking to work internationally
and work with other countries in
order to take those same steps. The poll found 58% of
Republicans who knew of the recent global climate deal
reached in Paris approved of efforts to limit global warming.
It's a snowball. For years republican politicians like
Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe have made climate change denial
a key contrast with President Obama and the Democrats. Mr.
President catch this
2016 GOP hopefuls like Donald Trump seeing a similar tune.
President Obama said that global warming is our biggest problem.
Can you believe this?
We're seeing a primary where many of these candidates aren't
talking about the issues at all. Many of the Republican
candidates are going so far as to disavow the science behind
climate change and say that they don't even believe that is
primarily manmade. And so we're seeing a difference there
between what the Republican electorate is thinking and and
hoping to see and what the candidates themselves are
saying.
And that could turn up the heat if a republican takes the White
House next year and has to decide whether to implement the
climate agreement or scrap it global climate talks in Paris
have entered the ninth day, delegates are working to reach a
deal to keep global warming below two degrees Celsius.
Several of wetness day's events are focusing on the climate
impacts of meat and dairy consumption. Singer Paul
McCartney has been highlighting the importance of a meat reduced
diet. He says the livestock industry is responsible for a
massive percentage of greenhouse gases. German MEP yo Lyneham
says Dyess is one of the most delicate issues with climate
protection. activists in Paris are taking a gentle approach to
the world's love affair with meat, ranging from offering
lookalike plant burgers, to suggesting a gradual weaning off
animal protein. For now, meat consumption is rising in many
countries, despite warnings. Most recently a World Health
Organization report to find eating processed or red meat
increased the risk of developing cancer, delegates hope to secure
a final climate deal by a deadline of 6pm Central European
Time on Friday, we're now all in this point in time on this
planet. And if we don't work together, the consequences are
disastrous, not right now. But for our children, and our
children's children, and the future of humanity.
The planet will be okay. It just won't be any damn people on it.
And so we are actively at the table, even though it's such a
short period of time. But it's a commitment of our prime
ministers of commitment of mine to be here to listen, to look at
how we can play a role in finding solutions. You know,
we're not there yet with having an agreement. But we're getting
close. And I think there's real opportunities. And if Canada
actually shows that it's serious that it's back, that we
understand that the science behind climate change is real,
that we need to be taking action that we need to be, you know,
looking at what measures we can take to reduce emissions, I
think that will set an extraordinarily strong signal.
And we've already seen that you know that people are excited
that we're here and Canadians are excited that we're here. I'm
excited to be here. So I'm really looking forward, you
know, to meeting with everyone and showing that we are serious
and that Canada is back on the world stage.
He couldn't answer the most basic fact that for the last 18
years, the satellite data showed no significant warming
whatsoever. He had no idea about that he turned to his aides
every minute or two. And you know, part of the reason he
didn't know the facts because climate change is not science.
It's religion.
Look at the language where they call you a denier. denier is not
the language of science. Look, I'm the child of two scientists.
My parents are both mathematicians, computer
programmers. My dad was a self taught geophysicist. The essence
of the scientific method is to start with a hypothesis and then
look to evidence to disprove the hypothesis. You're not trying to
prove it. You're trying to disprove it. Any good scientist
is a skeptic if he's not he or she should not be a scientist.
But yet the language of the global warming alarmists denier
is the language of religion, it's heretic, you are a
blasphemer. The response from the Sierra Club, we have decreed
this as the answer you must accept it. And so he didn't know
his facts because he just knew his religion.
And our own skepticism over climate changes cost one French
weatherman his job. He was taken off air after publishing a book
where he described quote, the complete hype on the matter.
My bed fever the visual that is presented to me to use well,
Philip Verdier his book question the causes and consequences of
climate change. The author suggested that warmer
temperatures could bring benefits including cheaper
energy bills because new people read his comments came just as
France prepares to host a major UN Conference on climate change
later this month that aims to decrease pollution levels
mission we asked the head of the publishing house what he thinks
about the incident.
For me, this incident felt like a crime of opinion pure and
simple. With this book, we expected a controversy but not a
sacking. This demonstrates that there is a real ideological
problem in France. At a certain point we asked Philip about the
possible outcomes. We told him that he should protect his
interests. Well, never did he say it's the money that counts.
There's so
many different things that can dampen your sex drive, you're
tired, you have a headache, the kids are bugging you. And now
here's another one to add to the list. Global warming. That's
right, climate change can kill your mojo. So researchers looked
at really hot days and then look forward nine months and what
they found is fewer babies were born nine months after those hot
days they defined really hot days as being over 80 degrees.
Those hot days may Couples feel well, maybe not so hot. The
impact was pretty sizable. In the United States, they found
that the impact of one hot day meant 1100 fewer births. Nine
months later, when you look at the whole United States, we had
about 30 days a year with the temperature climbs above 80.
However, as global warming takes its toll, it's predicted that we
could have 90 days a year where the temperature climbs that
high, that could mean eventually in the United States, 100,000
fewer births every year, and because of global warming, it's
just getting hotter. Now, once the weather cooled off, couples
did get back to coupling, but still it didn't make up for the
decreases during the hot months. So it turns out global warming
is not just bad for our oceans and our crops. It's also bad for
our sex lives,
peer pressure and cooperation. These are just some of the buzz
words being used ahead of the UN Climate meeting in Paris this
December, where talks will look to reach an international
agreement to cut greenhouse gas emissions, negotiators planning
to enforce any deals without sanctions or punishments. The
climate agreement will be more along the lines of a nuclear
agreement than it will be along the lines of something that say
under the World Trade Organisation where you could
come and slap trade sanctions on people. Of course, some people
say this just isn't good enough. The Bolivians especially have
the most radical proposal, which is to say that you should have
an international climate justice tribunal. Neither China nor the
United States are two top emitters of greenhouse gases
would be willing to submit themselves to a strong legal
review of their promises to cut to curb greenhouse gas
emissions. Instead, a likely outcome could be a pledge and
review system whereby commitments are assessed every
five years against the goal of having world emissions by 2050
advocators of that also anticipate an organic move
towards green energy. The hope is that in the coming years that
the prices of solar technology or wind technology, wind
turbines, hydro power will have come down so much that it makes
it makes economic sense for governments to go ahead and do
this. Since 1979. The summer sea
ice in the Arctic has decreased by more than 40% decrease that
has dramatically accelerated over the past two decades. One
new study estimates that Alaska's glaciers alone lose
about 75 Giga tons that 75 billion tons of ice each year.
To put that in perspective, one scientist described a Giga ton
of ice as a block the size of the National Mall in Washington,
from Congress, all the way to the Lincoln Memorial four times
as tall as the Washington Monument. Now imagine 75 of
those ice blocks. That's what Alaska's glaciers alone lose
each year, the pace of melting is only getting faster. It's now
twice what it was between 1950 and 2000, twice as fast as it
was just a little over a decade ago. And it's one of the reasons
why sea levels rose by about eight inches over the last
century. And why are they're projected to rise another one to
four feet this century? Because I don't think you think climate
change is a real problem. And I'm not alone. I mean, the most
recent survey, not alone, the most recent survey climate
scientists said about 57% don't agree with the idea that 95% of
the change in the climate has been caused by
there was a survey done of 1800 scientists and 57% said they
don't buy off on the idea that co2 is the knob that's turning
the clump. There's hundreds of green, I don't know, I don't
know what else you're pulling
out the survey, okay, it's 1800 climate science. So that's
number one. Number two, the 97% figure that's thrown around. The
head of the UN IPCC said that number was pulled out of thin
air. It was based on us on a survey of 77 not even 97
scientists responded to that survey. So let's just get let's
talk about facts. And the fact is, lots of things caused
climate change. But Pope made a very strong statement, very
strong statement in support of my position on climate change,
not yours. And your position when you heard that was, hey,
let's leave the science to the scientists. Okay, first of all,
you're not doing that. But second of all, I am. You're not
because 97% of all scientists believe a bogus number. It's so
not a bogus. It's so okay, yours is mine is yours is mine.
What I want to ask you is, I mean, you're I'm not a Catholic.
I'm not. I'm not I'm an atheist. But I like the pope better than
you do. And I
go, Wait a second. You are, you're saying the potion stick
to what he knows. And
this is what I always say. So much of religion is arrogance
masquerading as humility, shut. He's the Vicar of Christ. You're
God. Shouldn't you have the humility to say, Well, if the
pope thinks climate change is a problem? Maybe I should, he's
not just another guy. If you look at all the things the Pope
said, which, which I hope you do, he put it in the context of
trying to reach out to people who may not agree with him on a
whole lot of other issues in order to try to open up some
doors and open up a conversation, which is obviously
done. I mean, Al Gore is now saying he's gonna become a
Catholic because of this president. I mean, because of
this Pope. Contrary to media headlines, the trend over the
past couple of decades, has been essentially flat. Meanwhile,
human caused co2 emissions are higher than ever, about 25% of
all the co2 emissions from human sources have occurred during
this period of no net warming. So what are we in for next? Will
the temperature resume an upward trend? Will it remain flat for a
lengthy period? Or will it begin to drop? No one knows, not even
the biggest, fastest computers, all the information I've
presented, the increases, decreases and plateaus in
temperature over the ages and into the last centuries is
available to anyone who wants to seek it out. Yet to state these
simple facts is to risk being called a climate change denier.
Not only is that absurd? It's mean spirited. It's absurd,
because no one, not even the most fervent skeptic denies that
the climate is changing. And it's mean spirited, because to
call someone a climate change denier is to intentionally link
them to people who deny the Holocaust. So maybe it's time to
stop the name calling, predicting the climate, one of
the most complex systems on Earth, with 1000s of inputs,
many of which we don't understand isn't an exact
science, or anything close to it. Maybe it's just a tad
arrogant to suggest that we can predict the weather or the
climate, or just about anything. 60 years from now, the science
is not settled. The debate is not over. The climate is always
changing. It always has. And it always will. I'm Patrick Moore,
co founder of Greenpeace, for Prager University, climate
change is stretching out our variability. Talking about
politics, it's always been very important to you making a
difference in the world. Where do you think stand things stand
in 2014? A lot of people are cynical, can I say shut up and
run this world have as exactly where they want us? Now they
want everyone to just lay down Shut up. While we rob, you talk
about the fight for a cleaner, safer environment? Well, you
know, there are many, many problems facing us, especially
with the acidification of the ocean and then rising and the
temperatures and the melting of the glaciers. But it all really
stems from climate change. You know, and, you know, it's
appalling how many climate change deniers there are in this
world that are paid to make sure that the Koch brothers can still
sell all the stuff to us. And I often wonder, don't the Koch
brothers have children? They have grandchildren? Don't they
know what they're doing in this quest for more money? They're
already one of the richest families in the world. How much
more do you need? We have a brand new aspect of Hollywood
Health and Society, which is to work with on a topic of climate
change. Where again, all these different activities, writer
briefings, screenings, newsletters, and so on are an
attempt to provide free resources to writers who want to
include climate change as one of the storylines that they're
working on. And just to give you an example of that climate
change work a few weeks ago, there was a field trip we do
something called story bus tours, to the JPL NASA lab in
Pasadena, where we brought something like 37 writers and
producers to experience the most amazing stuff that they have
going on to inspire them in this area and to be factually
accurate.
If you noticed your last flight
was unusually bumpy get used to it. Scientists say climate
change is making the air more turbulent Case
in point, the South African Airlines Flight
rough bear sent passengers flying across the cabin. Some
even hit the ceiling. 20 people were seriously injured on that
flight from Johannesburg, South Africa. cnet's George house has
more for you.
been on a flight like this lately? A recent study may have
you reaching for the seat belts, suggesting we could see more
turbulence in the years to come as a result of climate change.
And after the ups and downs I experienced on this flight I
decided to look into Okay, so we're flying from Boston to
Chicago, and it's one of the bumpiest flights I've been on
ever.
What do you think?
My stomach actually physically hurts from
the flight because your child will never be able to say that
one particular person's flight experience, which was bumpy was
the has been caused by climate change. Of course, we can't.
What we can say is that, as the climate changes, the odds of
encountering turbulence on your flight are increasing.
Dr. Paul Williams says climate change is not only heating up
the bottom part of the atmosphere, but the computer
models show increased carbon dioxide levels are also changing
the Temperatures and wind speeds in the jet stream.
His research focuses in on transatlantic flights,
specifically addressing what's called clear air turbulence
occurring high above the clouds, and passengers are starting to
feel the difference. So those Jetstream wind shares are
becoming stronger because of climate change. And that I
believe is causing the atmosphere to become more
turbulent. And that is causing airplane flights to become
bumpier as a consequence. Thank you very much. So Dr. Bock, can
you be one of the 97%? This talked about and certainly, you
know, you're you, you know, you feel like man is contributing
and this and that, but certainly are not one that feels like the
models are acceptable. And I suspect that you have many of
your cohorts that are in the same in the same camp? Well, I
think the key thing here is that science is not a real by
majority method. That's the important thing. It's discovery.
And I'd like to quote, Jonas Salk, the inventor of the polio
vaccine, he said, I get into dialogue, a dialogue with
nature, and put the question to nature, not to my colleagues,
because that's from whence the answer must come. And that's
what I do. I always look at the data. And also Richard Fineman,
one of the great 20th century, quantum physicists said, science
is the belief in the ignorance of experts. So to keep saying
it's a majority. That's not a scientific statement. And it's
not correct. I've spent 15 years working on climate change in a
very constructive way. And what I can tell you is that since
about 1990, the data has started to move in the other direction,
away from an important effect by human beings. And that's just
what the facts Show.
Hey, everybody,
I'm Gina McCarthy, Administrator of the Environmental Protection
Agency. Let me start by thanking revenue wood in the Hip Hop
Caucus for putting all this together. I also want to give a
shout out to Reverend early in everyone else at the hip hop
caucuses climate tour. at EPA, it's our job to protect public
health and the environment. Too often, low income neighborhoods
and communities of color are overburdened by air pollution,
water pollution and contaminated soil, as well as dangerous
floods, fires and storms that have been worsened by climate
change. In the US, an African American child is five times
more likely than a white child to die from an asthma attack.
And climate change means hotter temperatures, and even more air
pollution, which especially burdens minority communities.
It's tough to go to school or to find a job when you're sick or
caring for a child who is sick. Pollution is holding back
millions of African Americans fighting for middle class
security, because the first few rungs of any ladder of
opportunity, a clean air to breathe, and clean water to
drink. In President Obama calls closing those gaps of
opportunity,
the defining issue of our time. fantastic news today for freedom
of speech, as I've said here several times, Professor Peter
reid is a great barrier reef expert, who was sacked
shamefully by James Cook University for questioning
claims by colleagues that the reef was being destroyed by
global warming. He was sacked for saying things like this, we
can no longer trust the scientific organizations like
Australian Institute of Marine Science, even things like the
IRC Center of Excellence for coral reef studies. A lot of
this stuff is coming out which the science is not properly
checked, tested or replicated. And this is a great shame that
we really need to be able to tap trust our scientific
institutions. Well, the Federal Court today ruled that red
sacking was unlawful. Joining me is Gideon Rosner, the policy
director of the Institute of Public Affairs, which is
supported Rudd's fight for free speech. Gideon, thank you so
much for joining me. What did the judge find exactly? Well,
the judge found Essentially that every action the university took
against pader, whether it be the sensors, whether it be the gag
orders, and whether it be in fact is like Final second, we're
all invalid. They're all measurements that shouldn't have
happened because they overrode and contravene Peters right to
free speech and free intellectual expression
expression that's contained in his ABA. So all of what Peter
suffered from kotaki out against the climate change orthodoxy
everything that he was hit by, for speaking against the so
called settled science of the reef was in danger was all found
to be invalid because he was protected for free expression is
the Great Barrier Reef dying. Now,
the reef is in fantastic shape. I often say that it of all the
ecosystems in the world, possibly with the exception of
Antarctica, the Great Barrier Reef is one of the best
preserved there is.
So Peter, what would you say to the naysayers and the usual
suspects who would paint you as somebody who doesn't care about
the environment? Well, you
know, I come from an environmentalist family,
right from a very early age. You know, being the environmental
organizations. I used to be president of the local branch of
the wildlife Preservation Society.
I'm an environmentalist.
In 1977, the worst winter in a centuries bucked the United
States.
Cold and ripped the Midwest for weeks on
great blizzards, allies and cities of the Northeast. One
desperate night in Buffalo, eight people froze to death in
green cars. emotionaler was on the road at night, traffic just
absolutely stacked, who was afraid of being stuck in the car
all night long, with the cold and the wind running out of gas.
And then what? I think that if we had to go through a real bad
winter, just like we just went through. I think we have to
think about moving from place.
Move where the brutal buffalo winter might become common all
over the United States. Climate experts believe the next Ice Age
is on its way. According to recent evidence, it could come
sooner than anyone expected.
And weather stations in the Far North. temperatures have been
dropping for 30 years.
Long three of summer ice are now blocked year round.
According to some climatologists within a lifetime, we might be
living in the next Ice Age.
Wow, john, You've outdone yourself.
But thanks. Because of the database, it turns out Who knew?
Well, that's my Tourette's as you say. Yes, finally. well
organised. Well, I'm missing a lot unfortunately. I just didn't
have any more but it sounds like you had some stuff going going
way back before my database. I think it must be yours. No, no,
no. It's a database random I was just ran with them and the ones
that there were boring ones that were left on the cutting room
floor, but most of these were kept people listening, I'm sure.
Alright, everybody well on the next show, but we'll be back.
We'll tell you what we're doing on that one. I think you'll
enjoy that as well. In the meantime, remember, we've got
Episode 1337 coming up, that's the lead it'll be celebrated on
1338 and coming to you from a vacation destination in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon
Valley where I remain i'm john C. De Boer. I will see you on
the next show. On Sunday. Until then Adios, mofos and such.org
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