Adam Curry: Holy moly. Adam curry John C. Dvorak. Sunday,
October 25 2020. This is your award winning donation media
assassination episode 1200 89. This is no agenda celebrating 13
years and broadcasting live from opportunity's own 33 Here in the
frontier of Austin, Texas capital up the drone Star State
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak: here from Northern Silicon Valley. Let's
get right to the donation segment. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Unknown: Buzzkill. Yes. Ladies and gentlemen, it is once again
Adam Curry: celebration here on the no agenda show. 13 years
together, and we never had a fight. So happy.
Congratulations, John.
John C. Dvorak: Congratulations to you. And congratulations to
you. You know, I have just the start off that. I don't want to
play these all now. But I do want to play one. Okay, these
are the no agenda. I guess. I I took some clips, old clips. And
I thought one would be quite appropriate just to start the
show. Okay. All right. This is NA classic. They're all under
under that moniker. Yes. First discussion of show length.
Adam Curry: And this is an early early show.
John C. Dvorak: No generally show 20
Adam Curry: In our have no agenda. No agenda. Yeah. Three,
four topics sounds about about rights to do it once a week.
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I think that's a good idea. I don't
think we I don't think we can sustain this length. Because
sometimes I mean, the the, the interview you had with Dr. Ron
was worth discussing for a while. Yeah.
Adam Curry: True. Okay. So we'll see this. I would say I agree.
This was maybe a little bit on the long side, but just under 40
minutes is pretty much the max, I think. Yeah, I agree. It's so
cool. That it sounds like we're on a pirate ship in the North
Sea. Three topics, just three topics should be enough. I mean,
that's really more than anyone needs to hear from us. Right?
Just three topics. Yeah, hey, I also congratulations and happy
anniversary to all of our producers. All of our producers
tuning in to everybody in the troll room. Thank you to the
there's so many people we could thank but we already have a
lunch segment. Enough people, but void zero, sir bemrose Aaron
O'Neill bemrose all of the artists code monkey who read our
website, you know, the search guys, this, it's so many people
to thank. And we can't because it would just be one circle jerk
because everybody's responsible. This after all, is your best
podcast in the universe. You're not listeners, you're active
participants, you are the producers. And we could not be
happier to still be here. And really, really appreciate all
the support in the value in in creating the value for value
model. And getting us to where we are today. And and we might
as well alert the affiliates. We'll probably be going a little
bit long. Not too long, though. I don't think it'll be too bad
to you. Yeah. Oh, you do? I only glanced at the spreadsheet.
Okay. I'm sure there's a lot of people have a lot to say. And
that's why we do it. Oh, we do
John C. Dvorak: I have a another idea. Okay, because we always
have to shorten these things up, somehow. And I think we should
anyone sends an anonymous note. They just there has to be cut
down to a minute where you're anonymous. What's kind of
revealing state secrets, which we don't get anyway? I don't
think an anonymous, someone comes in with an anonymous note
should write the war and peace.
Adam Curry: Hmm. This is a new rule. The new rule on the third
rule, yeah, and call it the 13th rule and
John C. Dvorak: not admission and they write the longer notes.
It doesn't make.
Adam Curry: Yes, John, because they're anonymous. They feel
more comfortable speaking their mind.
John C. Dvorak: Well, yeah, but you're the ashamed. Yes, of
course.
Adam Curry: We're that uncle that you like but you don't
really want to tell anybody. You're like us. I'm okay with
that. You know, I get it. I get it. But people become less
anonymous over time. They really do. And we have so many cool
emails to go through this morning. I will note that last
night we had a little bit of pre celebration with a former New
York banker at his at his place. And it was very interesting.
They had another couple over and we sat by their fire pit and I
was kind of waiting to relate. Wait, wait. Do you restate that?
Yeah, there was another couple there. So it was six of us. And
we all sat by the fire pit outside. They got a fire pit.
Oh, you're at their place? Yes. Yeah, their place. Exactly.
Okay. Yeah. The Burns
John C. Dvorak: said you had them over. That was what he
misled?
Adam Curry: No, they had they had other friends over. And I
was, you know, and we didn't know, we knew what we know one
of the other people but not the guy. And so I was curious to see
if there will be any politics. You know, there was a debate
that had just happened. And I'm hip, I'm pretty sure exactly,
there was lots of champagne, which led me to believe that
they were just all drinking their sorrows away after the
debate. And there was no no fire. No fire in that regard.
And I really didn't get anything out of him. Except one important
piece of information. Could because he did bring up the
CBDCs, the central bank digital coins, and he remains staunch,
in his opinion that there will never be a digital dollar. And I
said, Well, you cannot dispute what the Fed is announcing and
saying they're going to do it. You have to understand the whole
field like okay, apparently, according to him,
John C. Dvorak: What did what why didn't he just say, What the
hell you think, you know? No, that's always
Adam Curry: implied. We doesn't we don't have to go through that
anymore. It's like I got you, you. Just give me your
information. He says this is a defensive move and a posturing
move. Because everybody is scared crapless about the ant
IPO. The dance group, yeah, the anchor Alibaba, the the ant
group IPO, which is going to be enormous. And he says everyone's
afraid of their digital payment system, because they have one in
in the Alibaba chat or whatever the hell it is. They've got
digital money, which has been being used
John C. Dvorak: and wechat in that WeChat might be with I
think Ali Baba li chats where all the money goes in and out.
Uh huh.
Adam Curry: Now, I'm not sure. But that's okay. It doesn't it
doesn't really matter. But he said that's why in this case is
the pricing of the IPO. everyone's freaking out. This
could be 35 billion. It's pretty big. That's a big ass IPO. Yes,
sir. billion dollars. So that's, that's what he says this is all
about and he reiterated his stance. He said, Why would you
want to ruin million dollar businesses as banks? Why would
you want to? And I said, Well, there's a lot of people hate
banks says yeah, but it makes no sense. So he's kind of he's no,
he's not kind of he is in your camp on that. So well, yeah,
logical, yes.
John C. Dvorak: And bankers are tough.
Adam Curry: Thank you all. For your courage, who have been
sending me articles based upon the PCR process mislabeled as a
test throughout the world and being used incorrectly as a
test. We got some high level people, high level people coming
in. But first, I'd like to remind us what Bill and Melinda
Gates said. Bill and Melinda go with it. Yeah, yeah, we might as
well just keep it that way. Bill and Melinda Gates, in. This was
in June, when they were talking about the very same situation we
are in now, the so called Second wave
Unknown: pack, the testing could have been ramped up very
quickly, in a few countries that have almost avoided the epidemic
entirely like Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia. You know,
they took their experience and
Adam Curry: notice how he's wrong about Australia, although,
you know, he's not wrong, because there's really nothing
going on Australia has just locked down Melbourne for the
hell of it. But okay,
Unknown: Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia, you know, they took
their experience and actually prepared and so they moved a lot
faster. So we, you know, we'll have to prepare for the next one
that you know, I'd say is, will get attention this time.
Adam Curry: That will get attention next time. So that's
where we are. What is cool about this video is is now a
screenshot from this is being used and circulated to show that
this is no longer the original Bill and Melinda Gates. These
are imposters Yeah, now you can laugh. I'm laughing. So the end
this is a conspiracy theory goes that a while ago, a couple of
years ago, both of them were killed in India, because people
were so pissed off about their, their vaccine In the vaccines
had been killing children and so they did away with them. And if
you look and I put it in the show notes, man, they definitely
look different that Belinda Melinda is a lot cuter now than
she was
John C. Dvorak: well I find not to be offensive but I find that
hard to believe.
Adam Curry: Well remember he lost his rocking back and forth
all of that went away. There's definitely different body
behavior, but the faces are significantly different.
John C. Dvorak: I'm gonna have to look at this material
Adam Curry: it's nothing we need to stop and ponder too long but
I did just want to pull because you never know you got to put
that stuff out there because you know one day but oh, those guys
you guys.
John C. Dvorak: Now we can say we talked about this on show 12
At night we did exactly.
Adam Curry: Okay, one quick update as the magic numbers are
coming back again, we're having to repeat or the first wave this
John C. Dvorak: morning doctors and
Unknown: medical officials warning a fall Coronavirus surge
is blanketing the United States. It is frustrating to me to see
all these people that are really suffering through this disease.
This week 39 states reporting rising hospitalizations with 14
hitting record highs, Illinois Director of the Department of
Public Health breaking down announcing her state's
staggering caseload
Adam Curry: for a total of 364 33 confirmed cases, since
the start of this pandemic, excuse me, please. And she had
to go cry. She had to go cry because of the cases cases oh my
goodness, let's look at some of the some of the emails that came
in. First of all, the term infected. Let's look at that,
because you're hearing this all over the place infected? Well,
the media uses the term infected actually is correct infected.
And this is these it's coming all from doctors and everyone
knows about this stuff. Most anonymous, the term infected
doesn't mean the pathogen has entered your body necessarily or
caused any disease. The word infected is being used properly,
but the word case is not. Ah, when Has anyone ever said
someone had a case of X just because they had a pathogen
responsible for the disease. For example, almost everyone has
herpes simplex one or two. But most people never have symptoms.
We don't we called we don't say those without symptoms have
herpes, or hair hidden being discussed as cases. Generally a
case is something with clinical symptoms. And that's something
that a doctor should be able to hear or feel or see in the
clinical setting. And so that's important because I thought
infected was the wrong word. But cases is really the wrong word.
And what's really interesting about cases and what you will
not hear I've put a couple of charts in the shownotes. No
agenda show.com no agenda show.net. And you'll probably
want to use this for the newsletter. When you have such
an explosive number of quote cases based upon the PCR
process. The case fatality rate is 0.000001279 or something like
that, and you don't hear the media talking about it. And it's
very hard to find an actual chart of the case fatality rate.
So how many people who are a case actually die? It's, it's
below zero. It's just above zero. Belong this year he's
people up from the day I know, it's so good. Sorry about that.
Jeff in Ohio, got us a couple of PDFs. He went fine looking for
the old who standards for the number of cycles that are
recommended. And he went pretty far back. The oldest article he
could find was 20 cycles versus the 45 that are being used
currently. See, there's apparently there's a vaccine
court case Schneider versus sky of health and human services by
convention in this lawsuit it says he did some real research
no more than 40 to 45 PCR cycles should be run on any sample. In
general results at 35 cycles or below are acceptable results
above 35 cycles can be cause for concern. And on page 112. This
lawsuit regarding contamination DNA contamination is the
Achilles heel of PCR. Contamination is frequent, even
in the most compulsively monitored laboratories. Which
brings me to an email from Sir Jimmy V. Adam and John, I have a
degree in biology. My partner has a PhD in criminology and
together we have been working with prisoners who claim their
innocence. This is an old no agenda topic when you hear it.
Reading forensic evidence in the courtroom, there's a phenomenon
that we call the CSI effect. And we've talked about this many
times. This is the instant results enhanced TV magic that
the jury has seen on shows like CSI and Prime's their thinking
to believe that's truth before they step into a courtroom. One
area of forensics that is affected by the CSI effect is
DNA evidence people think that DNA is infallible, and that when
one's DNA is at a crime scene or on the murder weapon. It is an
indication of guilt however, misinterpreted DNA evidence has
led to several wrongful convictions. And mainly he says
it secondary transfer touch DNA. So two people picked up the same
item. But he says laboratory contamination is a huge problem
with DNA basically, the crime scene sample and comparison
samples, contaminate laboratory instruments, reagents, etc. This
trace contamination has been amplified via PCR and test
positive, and he has a whole list where you can see all this
so he's saying that there's a that is the Achilles heel of any
type of PCR process. Let's go to the chief medical examiner of
Florida. For several counties who would like to stay somewhat
anonymous. Adam and John, I'm the chief medical examiner for
six counties in Florida during the beginning of all the COVID
shenanigans. Thus, medical examiners were responsible for
signing all the death certificates for anyone who was
positive for Rhona RNA, I reviewed around 150 cases and
signed the DCS personally on the mess of the death certificates.
On Thursday show you we're talking about the FDA and Rona
testing and you got most of all the PCR stuff Correct. I want to
point out some things and notice when I was looking at all those
tests, there are things on top of everything else that just
produces bad data, and it's made me chief medical examiner for
six counties in Florida even more frustrated, the tests are
not actually approved by the FDA. Yes, this is a big one. A
lot of people emailed me to this email this to me, most of them
are being allowed on an emergency basis. So the tests
are given the 45 cycle count. It's in the document. It's in
the FDA emergency use authorization. But the tests
themselves and the reagents, as far as he knows, as far as I
know, are not actually FDA approved, or have they been
certified and who knows what even looked at him at all. The
other thing he says the tests are not all testing amplifying
the same thing. Some of the tests are using a single strand
of RNA where others are using multiple strands. And among the
different tests, they are not looking for the same strands
confused? Well, he sent me a PDF with examples from different
labs, which I'm not allowed to post. Because he just doesn't
want that out there. Because his name could be traced back to it.
But it seems like this is all over the place. All over the
place. Final ones are Don, PhD in analytical chemistry do we
have? Well, how about our producers job? I mean, we have
chief medical examiner's PhD in analytical chemistry
John C. Dvorak: 100,000 We have 800,000 people that download the
show. It's astonishing, but out of out of a sample that size,
which is the size of the entire city of San Francisco, actually
about the same size. There will be a lot of skilled people that
listen to the show. Yeah. And of course, it just builds on itself
because they contribute to the show because we're one of the
few shows that actually rely on them. We don't encourage it. We
rely on these people. And that because and so their
contribution to show raises the level of listenership and
producer ship. And so none of it surprises me. That surprises me
that Trump doesn't listen to the show but except for that, that's
what you probably too low and
Adam Curry: right. Adam and John would listen to your PCR rant
was thinking is this really 40 cycles they are running. For
information. I have a PhD in analytical chemistry, which
means I focus on chemical measurements. I taught lab techs
when I was in grad school, so I understand this stuff. I talked
to a lab tech in a large Massachusetts testing lab who
currently use PCR equipment from SEFID si p h e id.com. And just
purchased some new high throughput PCR equipment from
the Thermo Fisher utilizing 96 Well sample plates. He says by
the way used to work for them but not in that area. Both
machines use 45 cycles for the COVID test which is allowed
under the FDA emergency approval. And he has a link to
it. Of course we already have it in the show notes. And he says
it has the link for the FDA approval. There are other kits
out there as well some from the USA and Sami says unbelievably
from China. There are arguments again from a PhD in analytical
chemistry, there are arguments that more than 29 cycles are not
effective, and has a link to an MIT study. But as always, there
are varying opinions, it is true that with a large number of
cycles, most quote over 45, you can get a lot of false
positives. If you look at the MIT paper, you'll see that the
initial cycles cause an exponential amplification, and
then amplification tends to become linear or plateau. So
additional cycles don't gain too much, it doesn't start to get
into false positive resolution. My guess is because these quote
tests, or this process, as you'd like to say, are generally under
FDA emergency approval, they cranked it up because they don't
know what the optimal conditions really are. Typical knee jerk
reaction. There's more in there, I posted his note and see if
there's any more we want to discuss. Well, yeah, just one
more note from a good friend of mine who's a nurse works in a
nursing home here in Pennsylvania, she told me five
of her colleagues tested positive for COVID, using the
government test kits, they were sent to the facility. They all
have serial numbers that have to be registered into the website
the same day, the same nurses went to the nearby hospital to
get tested, and all tests came back negative. So it's that kind
of stuff. Oh,
John C. Dvorak: no, yeah, they could have had it and then they
got over it in five
Adam Curry: minutes. It just a couple seconds. It's crazy how
that works for them to Baron. It is what happened to Baron
barons, young man, though, and 20 feet tall. So for you to put
that. So it seems like we're on the right track with this PCR
process. And, you know, squarely looking at the FDA and the World
Health Organization, the European Union also was using an
emergency use authorization from the European Union's version of
the FDA. And it's also a 45 cycle count, and any other notes
that have gotten, which are usually very long, and they also
in the show notes, kind of all say the same like well, you
know, there's all kinds of margins and it all comes down to
but yeah, it's probably too much 45 cycles, and it's just it's
there's no argument against the fact that it's just not a test.
It's a process. So what is going on then? Is it
John C. Dvorak: Well, here's the question, bigger question. Do
we've been hit we've been through on this thing. We've
been on this long enough, long enough for nine months. Where's
the real test?
Adam Curry: There is no real test. Where's it? There's got to
be? No, there is no test. They only they if they had a test,
they would do it. There is no test. But that's not even the
problem. It's not the test. No, no, no, no, no. Dr. Burks is
back on the scene. Commander, Inspector General Deborah Burks,
and she knows what's really going on out there.
Unknown: The Coronavirus Response Coordinator, Dr.
Deborah Birx. had this to say about combating this dangerous
new surge, search sci
fi as simple as closing public spaces. Because public spaces
you can see we're very safe over the summer and probably remain
safe. This is really something that has happened in the last
three to four weeks. And what has happened in the last three
to four weeks. It's gotten cooler, and people have moved
their social gatherings indoors.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's it. Okay. So when it was hot, and we were
indoors with air conditioner, that wasn't a problem. Now it's
cooler. We're indoors. And now it's a problem. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: It was 90 Yesterday. Much of California
and the way she's talking about it
Adam Curry: was chilly here. We had 56 Yesterday. Very cool. Oh,
no, I know. Hence the fire. Let's go back to the end of
March. Just to remind everybody, and this may come up in some of
the debate coverage that we have. This is Dr. Deborah
commander, Inspector Burks, the end of March regarding the
models that the President talked about. And by the way, I don't
buy any of this. But if you're gonna go strictly by what they
said, Then the President is right.
Unknown: Dr. Fauci said yesterday, we could see millions
of cases in this country and as many as one to 200,000 deaths.
Do you agree with that analysis? Is that a worst case scenario or
something that we should prepare ourselves as potentially likely?
So in the flu models, the worst case scenario is between one
point 6,000,002 point 2 million deaths, that's the projection if
you do nothing. So we've never really done all of these things
that we're doing, we put them into a model, we've looked at
the Italy data with their side of self isolation. And that's
where we come up with if we do things together. Well, almost
perfectly. We could get in the range of 100,000 to 200,000
fatalities. We don't even want to see that.
That's, I know, but you know, you kind of take my breath away
with that, because what I hear you saying is that sort of the
best case scenario, if everything works, and people do
the things you're asking them to do, maybe you can hold the
deaths to one to 200,000 in this Country?
Well, the best case scenario would be 100% of Americans doing
precisely what is required.
Adam Curry: It sounds to me like we did a pretty good job
according to the experts at the time. Instead of the 2 million,
we got 100 200,000 Now, I think they're only talking about a
short period. Here we are. What are we now? Nine months further?
Not? Nine months further supposed to end and Easter?
Yeah, well, it might have. But we have all these cases did by
the way. Yeah. And now we're back on the masks thing. Oh,
it's gotta be masks. Fauci was
Unknown: a cultural tug of war over businesses and masks, Dr.
Anthony Fauci suggesting it might be time to raise the
stakes.
John C. Dvorak: Well, if people
Unknown: are not wearing masks, then maybe we should be
mandating it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. Anthony. Let's mandate the masks. That's
always a
John C. Dvorak: great thing. We should all go to a Scott air
pack.
Adam Curry: What the Scott air pack? Yeah. I'm not familiar
with this term.
John C. Dvorak: This is the oxygen you have you throw it
over your hand. You put a big mask on, you get two bottles of
oxygen behind you. Air. Oh, that's fine. Yes. And you wander
around with the Scott air pack. Those are what you use in
situations where you're in. We're deadly outside.
Adam Curry: Well, there's sad news because there is now
evidence that there's a new problem when it comes to the
spread of the deadly virus.
Unknown: Everyone agrees a dozen mayors from big 10 towns wrote a
letter to conference officials asking that guidelines be
established for positivity rates in their communities. What is
your biggest fear when it comes to return a big 10 football in
the
community. We see tailgates we see increased social gatherings
we see increased consumption of alcohol and all of those
behaviors have been attributed to an increase Fred the comp
Adam Curry: no alcohol that's what's doing it Yeah, you got
the time to shut when we shut the alcohol the stores but
that's when the shit really hit the fan. Looking at Ireland, we
were wondering how it was going. And I got one note from producer
who said Believe it or not, there's nowhere in Ireland that
isn't within walking distance to a pub and he says the pubs are
open this model he says has served the Irish will for seven
to 800 years. So as long as the pubs are open, they will be very
very compliant. Now I got a note from Danilo from Ireland and
Anila writes thanks for covering Ireland and yesterday show John
mentioned whether people of Ireland will be put it will put
up with these measures. And by the way now it's to the point
where I think you can't do in the old you can only buy stuff
in the big box store but you can't buy any non essential
items like a shirt and those areas are now roped off remember
they were doing that in a target here in the states you couldn't
buy lawn furniture target yeah well that you couldn't buy lawn
furniture was something like that it was something along
those
John C. Dvorak: the outdoor gardening thing was shut down
but that was shut down and most targets right well this is now
there were some that had some aspects of but you can still go
to Home Depot and buy that stuff. But you couldn't go to a
small shop
Adam Curry: right well so now all the non essential stuff is
roped off
John C. Dvorak: Irish because people like me probably
complained they say oh we get a they're catching this with a
kind of a newer miscommunicating you know where you were we're
screwing the little boutiques we're gonna be red are cordoned
off these things over here at Walmart
Adam Curry: which is exactly what was happening of course
John C. Dvorak: nonsense.
Adam Curry: Excuse me. Irish people.
John C. Dvorak: Let's go let's back into stop that for a
second. Just give it a little thought. Okay, you're in the big
box store. You're inside and then they rope off some clothing
items because of why sadism because if you go and buy that
clothing item it's going to spread the disease. It's already
in the big box store with your mask on
Adam Curry: it can only be purely sadistic. I don't see any
reason why oh,
John C. Dvorak: you nailed it. Purely sadistic.
Adam Curry: couldn't be anything else. It makes no sense. zero
sense. Irish people are generally passive and don't
really stand up for their rights carries. A lot carries on here.
The majority of the Irish versus British Irish he or I don't know
if it didn't allow a male or female and oh no. Okay. Irish
people are generally passive and don't really stand up for their
rights. The majority of the population still watch the
national news every night on a station called RTE, which is
state run basically a propaganda arm for the government. Yes, we
know as to your version of the BBC. Each night the 6pm and 9pm
News covers the daily PCR results designed to inflict fear
amongst the people. It's worked. Most people are afraid of the
virus and many welcomed the new lockdown measures We're not even
allowed to protest under the current regulations, which is
the same now for Australia as well. 11 people were arrested
yesterday at a protest in Dublin because they refuse to disperse
when ordered to do so by the police. I fear for the future of
my country. Best regards, Danilo, to which I said, Where
the hell is bonaero in all this? Where is our Savior, Bano?
Shouldn't he be he's calming the people and I mean, he's he was
out on every other issue. Banos around, oh my goodness, if we're
gonna die from climate change Banos right there. But he's Mia
now. He'll be back. Welsh locked down there. They also have the
Welsh Government have put the whole country into lockdown.
Bizarre twists. Also, no one's allowed to buy non essential
items. No parts for your bicycle. If you need it in a
while you would need that but possible. Let's see. Do we have
anything else? Oh yes. That the ICU scam is on the rise again.
People we've been through this before. They will tell you that
the ICI ICU beds are full. They're full, they're full. Oh
my god, we're running out of ICU beds. That's only half of the
story. They're talking about ICU is reserved for COVID which is
typically 10 to 15% of all the ICU beds and also know that they
run the ICU they run hospitals like airlines fill up as many
beds as possible don't have too many beds available tangy we
have to keep saying as many times as it takes I don't mind
but they're gonna keep doing it. They're gonna keep scaring you
are trying to scare you. With all this noise about the ICU
beds No. And you can see it on Twitter. And whenever we post
something that's funny or you know or that accentuates a point
I've made people are coming back with you know what you're
talking about Matt? I see you but when you tell me these
people aren't sick kudos you very very tiring. Also back is
to be off Twitter was the only that's my news channel. That's
all I got left. I don't have any other social meds except for
nodes in the social ships missed of course is back on the
airwaves. He's over at CNBC. He's on late. He's on a Jeff
Smith the judging ship ship ship Smith, the former
John C. Dvorak: NBC does this NB C's their their modus operandi
is to steal somebody away from Fox. It's like a governor almost
like a government. They steal somebody away from Pfizer and
they put him into some slot that's no good or some situation
that they're gonna get fired. But they give them a pot load of
money to quit but it's still probably not as much as they've
made if they'd stayed nice Ryan very good. And they drop them
someplace like this until they get fed up and realize they've
been had like Megan Kelly did finally who
Adam Curry: thanks for introducing me to her podcast
Holy crap. She's great on the podcast.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, she she is she professional? She's a she's
a natural podcaster
Adam Curry: she is and now that she has no restrictions and has
no Megan Kelly has a very nice what to do. He has no restraint
gas. Actually damn good very much appreciate. Here's a Shep
Smith. We'll check in see what he's doing on his brand new show
on CNBC. This is researchers at the University of Washington
releasing a grim new projection. Their model estimates the United
States could see nearly half a million deaths by February. That
is, if states ease more restrictions, that's the red
line. You see they're shooting north. It's the worst case
scenario 500,000 Americans dead. But if 95% of us will wear our
masks all the time the model shows deaths could be much less.
You see that clearly from the yellow line down there at the
bottom. Right now the Reacher's researchers predict we're on
track to hit more than 385,000 deaths by February so he's got
his models out and you know, it's oh boy if we were masked
and less of you will die and always all projection we should
believe these models by now. Checking in with the ultra
orthodox Jews in New York 10 G, what do you get when you put 10
ultra orthodox Jews into a house in Brooklyn? Boy, you get a
visit from the police. My face
Unknown: but we had a complaint about vehicle parking in the
front. Then I look up and you have over 10 people in a crowd
so now it's an issue. Okay.
The issue is,
you're Jewish. This is not a party. This is simply a simple
thing. They have a few friends together. What is the issue that
you need suppose to come into my house and tell me that it's okay
for people to walk in the back How's the state it's okay when
you aren't a police officer you know the laws you know the rules
you can walk into my house tell me that is okay you would have
been a normal person would have walked out is how can I talk to
you fine I can listen we're past
Adam Curry: that point oh we're past that point now man poor
cops
John C. Dvorak: why they get sad ending Hey is de Blasio is town
they should be sending into social where the social workers
Why are the cops responsible they shouldn't be involved in
this
Adam Curry: they did they defund the police and not give any
money to the social
John C. Dvorak: workers they should send the social workers
over to their It's baffling.
Adam Curry: It's baffling. I have no idea right? I have no
idea. I have no idea why they can't just do it. Right.
Exactly. As we are getting ready when I'm, of course everyone is
waiting for the vaccine. Because the vaccine that will really end
it all. The vaccine will that will save us all unless you live
in Korea
Unknown: calls to halt the free flu vaccination program in South
Korea are growing, as the specter deaths have now piled up
to more than 30. But authorities are refusing to suspend it
citing no evidence for direct link. Investigations into a
number of the deaths have ruled out links to the flu shot,
including the country's first report a victim a 17 year old
boy. But as public concerns mount the Prime Minister has
also called for a more thorough investigation to verify the
exact cause of deaths. Some local governments across the
country have voluntarily advised residents against taking the flu
shot. But officials say they should not make such decisions
without consulting with health authorities. It's not the first
time the program comes under fire. It's been controversial
since last month, the campaign had been paused for three weeks
after millions of doses of the vaccine were found to be
mishandled. The scheme was expanded to vaccinate 30 million
people this year to ward off a potential twin demic of
influenza and COVID-19 damage. Some 10 million people have
already taken the flu shot.
Adam Curry: So just so you know. I don't think any vaccine is
completely free of killing people. They there's always
people who die from vaccines, but that isn't there's not going
to be this super lens on it. Just like we're all super
focused on the COVID which doesn't deserve that much focus
unless you're part of the great reset. And now is the time to
start paying attention. Because as we get close to this
election, and I said it before, if Joe Biden wins, we are in
build back better land for the rest of our days, or at least
for four years. Everybody's ready. They're circling around
Time Magazine front cover the great reset, how to build a
better world post COVID 19 Time magazine on the front cover. And
no one cares about
John C. Dvorak: it. But of course, said dubious
Adam Curry: globalist magazine. Yes, of course. And that
John C. Dvorak: was the International Edition. It wasn't
a US edition.
Adam Curry: Well, no, we're not going to tip our hat. We need
the we need Joe to win first. I mean President Harris the COVID
19 pandemic has provided a unique opportunity to think
about the kind of future we want time partnered with the World
Economic Forum to ask leading thinkers to share their ideas on
how to transform the way we live and work. And to me it's just
baffling that we listened to a shitty programmer and we listen
to these douchebag bankers and take our life advice from them
screw these people is horrible. But if you if you look at the
lock downs if you look at if you look at the great reset and the
documents were pretty much in lockstep it's pretty much where
we were supposed to be according to this entire rollout. And now
we see even you the UPS posted on the website today COVID
nineteen's legacy This is how to get the great reset write ups
what is going on?
John C. Dvorak: UPS the brown yes that company yes
Adam Curry: the brown the brown shirt shipping Well that may be
your answer the brown shirt shipping code it walked right
into it on an individual basis for many life as they've always
known it is unraveling at alarming speed. This said acute
crisis favorite introspection and foster the potential for
trans formation. Yes, here's a super cut.
Unknown: We're gonna move to a different place which is a new
normal, a new normal, a new normal,
the new normal, a new normal, new normal embrace
the new normal, the new normal, the new normal, the new normal,
the new normal, this new normal is going to look very, very
different, not normal but a new norm. More than new normal
normal, there will be a new normal, a new normal, a new
normal, a new normal, the new normal, a new normal. And
this is the new normal. This is our new normal, our new normal,
a new normal, our new normal,
normal, and the new normal, our new normal, we will transition
into the new normal,
this will be the new normal until a vaccine is developed.
Adam Curry: That's right, your favorites. It's all your hits in
one.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I have a couple of things. And I think
you've missed the whole point here.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I've missed it. Thanks. Yeah. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you have no you know why? Cuz you didn't
blame Trump. And I am
Adam Curry: such a bad man. You're correct. That is but
that's it. Doesn't that lead into the build back better by
blaming this on Trump and we can build back better post orange?
Who? Who opposes Showtime host orange, post or post orange?
Hey, some people get up in the morning and make hit records. I
make show titles.
John C. Dvorak: So here we go with this is on democracy. Now.
We're going to bring in a new report and a nice slam and
really shameless shameless report. A dishonest report from
Amy and her guest, Ali Khan, former head of the CDC. Who was
one of those guys, you know, you don't have to do this. The guy
that the guy running it today, the CDC guy, he doesn't do this
these Redfield? No, no. Which is where the military uniform.
Whether you've been in the military or not, you get to wear
a uniform, scrambled eggs, the whole thing and that's what this
guy alikhan used to do. He's over at Nebraska. Now. He's
going to tell us a kind of give us a different look at things.
And then discuss a report that came out of Columbia. This is
Ali Khan 300,000, actually dead DN.
Unknown: This, we're joined by Dr. Ali Khan. He's an
epidemiologist and the Dean of the College of Public Health at
the University of Nebraska Medical Center. He's the former
Director of the CDC Office of Public Health Preparedness and
Response where he oversaw the Strategic National Stockpile.
He's joining us from Omaha, Nebraska. Nebraska is one of
seven states now seeing a record level of COVID hospitalizations.
Dr. Ali Khan, welcome to Democracy Now. Can you respond
to that last comment of President Trump's as he says he
is not responsible for this
bill. Good morning, Amy. And thank you very much for the
opportunity to join you this morning. Before I respond to the
last comment. Let's step back a little bit and think how unusual
this would be if we replaced COVID with polio or Colorado.
Adam Curry: Excuse me, ma'am, that's like a false equivalency
Unknown: have a presidential debate and two different
opposing political opinions about a disease. That's the
third leading cause of death in America now that I'm known 10
months ago, and we would be having a debate on whether or
not it's killing people and how it's killing people. It's, it's
unimaginable if you just replace COVID, with anything else, but
that's essentially what's happening. And what COVID has
done very effectively, is it's, it has it has taken advantage of
every splinter in our society first, in terms of biologically,
you know, elderly males, we know are at higher risk than social,
social, politically, economically. It's extremely
unfortunate what's going on in America with over actually, it's
300,000 deaths right now.
Oh, explain what you mean by 300,000 deaths.
So the 220,000 deaths that are reported are an under report of
deaths. And what you really need to look at, in addition to the
actual individual cases that are reported, is excess deaths. And
CDC has recently done a very nice analysis of looking at all
excess deaths. So these are people who would not have died.
Adam Curry: So just one to one observation, he keeps bringing
in these other diseases, is he in effect, saying Imagine if
COVID was real? Because I would imagine if it was a real
disease, or am I miss hearing that
John C. Dvorak: wow, I didn't even hear it that way. But
that's an interesting interpretation, because you
might just be saying that subconsciously, yeah. Imagine
there was polio.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's like well, real disease real to see
something that could really fuck you up. Yeah, no, that's, that's
very odd.
John C. Dvorak: And find that whole analogy to be incredibly
weird. And the CES not as weird as what's about to come out.
Great. Can you yourselves Dead according to this guy who's,
who's in let me just mention major Democrat supporter. I
looked him up and open secrets. He's there. He's everybody who
runs for Congress was a Democrat. He's there supporting
him. There's no two under four and a fiver and 600 bucks a pop.
So he's, you know, decidedly one sided on this. This was never
brought out, of course, but nothing like what we're you're
about to hear in part two. Can you respond
Unknown: to the Columbia University report that just came
out this study where researchers blasted the Trump administration
over its disastrous pandemic? The author's right, we estimate
at least 130,000 deaths, perhaps as many as 210,000 could have
been avoided with earlier policy interventions and more robust
federal coordination and leadership, even with the
dramatic recent appearance of new COVID-19 waves globally.
abject failures of US government policies and crisis messaging,
persist. Talk about what this means, what Trump did and didn't
do, as he talks about how well he dealt with the pandemic.
But me, this paper that came out of Columbia University by Dr.
Robin Red Letter really puts estimates on how many people
have unnecessarily died of this disease, and it tries to
estimate those preventable deaths. So it's always good, you
know, I appreciate American exceptionalism, but you just
need to go look at what's going on in the rest of the world.
China, zero deaths, economy in the third quarter percent, okay.
And it's not just China, New Zealand, Taiwan, Singapore, or
aguaje it was Pakistan I can go on and on all over the world,
what countries where they had a robust public health strategy to
decrease cases in their countries and they are down to
zero to no cases.
Adam Curry: Oh, man first of all, ship this guy to any of
those countries bye bye.
Unknown: Let's
John C. Dvorak: let's go to the basics of this complaint of his
so I looked up to the GAO did the report Irwin Redlener Berwyn
red letter now he's now according to this report up to
we have 220,000 dead but there could have been only a 210,000
of them are unnecessary. We only could have had 10,000 Dead
according to this report, according to what he just said.
You heard those numbers I did, which makes no sense whatsoever.
But what's really funny it makes it even more humorous. Is that
read Lennar is the was the let me read from the wiki page read
lenders the Special Advisor in New York City Mayor Bill de
Blasio with a focus on emergency management and planning to
support adviser administration city wide disaster preparedness
Excellent. Tell you something else about this guy. Red Lennar
if the only way to remember Elian Gonzalez where they stuck
a gun in Florida, the kid to the Cuban kid. Yeah. Who was behind
him getting picked up and sent back to Cuba. This guy, this
guy,
Adam Curry: really? Yep. So wait a minute here,
John C. Dvorak: April 2000 Read Lennar was engaged by ins
Commissioner Doris mesme Messner to provide strategic guidance
regarding the management of the Elian Gonzalez case. Okay, so
they claimed in a letter the INS said based on weeks of studying
the case, including a propaganda 42nd video of seven year old
alien, which apparently came in from Cuba is now in a state of
imminent danger in staying in the United States. Remember, he
urged that the government immediately removed the
horrendously exploited alien
Adam Curry: this so this guy is a political jackal.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, wait, but there's more. Let's go to
opensecrets.org Oh, holy moly, look this guy up he gives to
everybody $1,000 to Tom Harkin. 250 to Eric Massa Democrat,
Hillary 500 Hillary 2700 Hillary 2700 Vote Jose Serrano. Debbie
Stabenow What's you got to do with her another 225 to Hillary
20 Another 2700 to Hillary it's unbelievable these are page
after but this guy is a stooge it was a misrepresentation even
discussed this report Amy brought it up it's dishonest
reporting. It's shameless. She should be ashamed of herself she
should take her own show off the air for leaving this kind of
pertinent information completely off the off the off the
presentation. I was disgusted when I looked this guy up John
Cena for accent diva.
Adam Curry: Wow, I mean, you don't get a pet peeve often.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that's that was is a classic. I have
never seen anything like this Ali Khan guy, another stooge
from the Obama administration. Oh, yeah. Let's take a bunch of
Trump haters and then read the report. Hey, guess what it says
Trump sucks. Oh,
Adam Curry: that's in the report. My goodness. That's very
interesting. What is this guy's background though?
John C. Dvorak: Oh, they're both back row sir. Back in there
Democrats. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I could get the I get their back.
Well, I'm just gonna chill educated. Ali Khan, for example,
got a doctor from State University of New York Medical
Center in Brooklyn completed a joint resident program is that
regular doctors that happen to be politically engaged to
involve in the government.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the the reason this podcast exists? Well, it's
because we're patently on hireable. But the reason it
exists is to deconstruct the media. And you know, this has
been the banner year I mean, you cannot get any better. Just when
it when it comes to how dishonest and propagandistic all
media has been all of it. And now it's just the masks are off.
They don't care anymore. They and I think they're on the they
really believe that on the on the winning tip. They're smoking
their own dope when it comes to Biden.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah. I think that's absolutely true.
Yeah. Hockey, they're cocky
Adam Curry: abandons guy, the billionaire, the anti CCP
billionaire who was financing or all Bannon does. He did a speech
at the Press Club in Chinese so or Mandarin, so it doesn't make
any sense to play any clips. But in that he says China is coming
for America. And they have two plans to do it. And this is all
the information I have plan. One is called the bg y plan. And
three F is the other plan. Don't know what it means.
John C. Dvorak: But it would be nice to know bring your own
beer. I and his are coming in with their own beer.
Adam Curry: I know it's DJ VG. Why bring?
John C. Dvorak: Bring guns?
Adam Curry: I don't know. Bring guns.
John C. Dvorak: You.
Adam Curry: This is the guy who I believe is also behind the
Hunter Biden laptop which Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. I've
seen some of the pictures and video. What? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
John C. Dvorak: It's been thanks for sharing.
Adam Curry: You know, you don't even want me to talk about a zit
on the show. So share.
John C. Dvorak: Specifically pus.
Adam Curry: This comes from the OA N. QT. What's your name? Sean
tall or crystal?
John C. Dvorak: That's the one with the brunette
Adam Curry: Yes. And with a very with the olive skin.
John C. Dvorak: She's Yeah, She's tough. She's unbelievably
good looking.
Adam Curry: But the hair bothers me. It's a little too much you
could do with a little less poof. That's just me as a hair
person. So she confirms and I have seen this and, and some of
the videos she confirms that the 14 year old in some of the
photos and videos on the hard drive Hunter Biden hard drive
are in fact, Natalie Biden.
Unknown: It's not just any underage girl. This is a family
member. And there were several figures that we have seen on
this hard drive who have questionable ages, but none of
them could be verified as far as who they are. Except this one.
And that's Natalie Biden. She is the niece of Hunter Biden. And
the pictures depict her in ways that are very questionable,
questionable enough topless, we here at Irwin submitted a
request telling County Police Department in Delaware and we
asked if they had received any notes of concern about the
images that were found on these hard drives on this laptop.
Concerning Natalie Biden who was 14 years old at the time. I
cannot go into too deep too much detail as to what the pictures
actually depict. But they're enough that we know for sure she
was 14 years old at the time because there's bait stamps on
these pictures. This is around the time that Hunter Biden was
spending spending time around not only Natalie but her moms he
was carrying on and we're running romantic affair with
time this is the very uncomfortable pictures Kara so
we had you know images of Natalie being horizontal I'm
trying to be as delicate as I can but being horizontal with
with buying. You have pictures of Hunter without a shirt on on
in some of the scenes, we have records of FaceTime calls from
Hunter to Natalie and Natalie to Hunter. So there's some very
questionable things in there enough that we sent in a request
to the authorities to see if anybody raised alarms about
seeing about these pictures once they had them in their, in their
hands.
Adam Curry: It's so his dead brother's wife and daughter.
John C. Dvorak: Talk about a blogtober surprise they got two
weeks to cover this up, though they're working very hard on it.
And not saying anything that the mainstream media should really
is just should be ashamed of itself. This
Adam Curry: one just one video just to give you an idea of
John C. Dvorak: how this is lurid this blurry before you go
on in any more of the discussing this. Oh, I should also mention
by the blonde you hated on OA N. She's out.
Adam Curry: Really? What happened to her? I didn't want
her to get fired. She's
John C. Dvorak: I think she quit or something. She went she's
gonna be a podcaster
Adam Curry: Oh, well, hey, it's we're all the best go. So we
welcome her with open arms as long as they don't have to look
at her. And she needs to tone down the attitude because it's
just it was annoying. Sorry to hear that. I don't want anyone
to get fired. But now now.
John C. Dvorak: Besides the fact that the mainstream is not going
to, they're going to try to suppress this information. It's
not going to get suppressed for very long. And I'm wondering and
I think you brought this up once. Is it possible that this
is really that the stupidity of letting this laptop with all
these videos and images and stuff out of your sight? And
giving it to a repair shop for any reason whatsoever is really
a subconscious cry for help from daddy. Were hunters really, you
know, he's a cokehead anyway. Yeah. And he never got the
attention that bow the great bow Biden, you know, the greatest
kid ever got that this is like, really one of these family
things that that people can never fully understand what
happened?
Adam Curry: i Yes, I but I think it's, it may be the 14 year old.
I think she may be the one that somehow got this news out. It's
hard to tell. I mean, there's there are people going through
all these emails and, and pictures. I just wanted to
mention one video that I saw 15 minutes. And it's he's in a
hotel room. I think it's hard to tell. And he's receiving oral
sex. He's on his back. He's watching Stephen Colbert. It's
on. Oh, no. Yeah, he's watching Stephen Colbert.
John C. Dvorak: How can cold Bear NOT bring this up on this
show?
Adam Curry: And, but it goes on for 15 minutes. So he's clearly
on Viagra or something. Clearly, he's smoking is paise is crack
or meth or whatever it is. And he's got a glass crack pipe.
Yep. And he's, and he's taken pictures down under his crotch
where this girl is going to town on him. He's taken videos. I
mean, this is this real depravity that I see. And it's
not it. Nothing is shocking. I don't care if he smokes dope. I
don't. I mean, the most offensive thing is he's watching
Stephen Colbert. But he oral sex fine, but just a combination and
for 15 minutes nonstop and nothing happens. It's just, the
whole thing is just and then he and He's videotaping it on his
laptop.
John C. Dvorak: He's taping and how is he doing? Is he using the
laptop camera? Yes,
Adam Curry: using the laptop camera and then he's using his
iPhone. He videotaping this. But that's what I'm saying is
because, you know, when you're a drug addict, you really aren't
using your senses. So, you know, there's a whole bunch of things
you will do wrong. Like taking dropping your laptop off and
stuff. So anyway, so the big story as Matt Taibbi wrote, he
wrote a pretty good essay about it, even though if they really
knew what was what the if they, if they could bring themselves
to believe the information that's being uncovered and
published, which they don't I think they a lot of journalists
go I just don't want to see it. The fact that this
John C. Dvorak: journalist is this, this is the same kind of
journalist it's at Oh, WikiLeaks, so I don't want to go
there. I might find some out.
Adam Curry: Well, exactly. That's Chris Cuomo. I mean,
these are these are the journalists, you know, they're
not journalists, obviously. Or they're not performing the
function properly. They're not because you have no innate or
inherent curiosity, but the BBC and you may have seen a snippet
of this, I waited until I get could get a full clip out of it.
They have the media show. And on this was Susan Ferruccio, The
Washington Examiner, and she was going head to head with Brian
seltzer water from CNN about this very topic about the
Twitter censorship. And I believe the New York Post
Twitter account is still locked. I don't think they've been able
to post it all since since that happened. And it was an
interesting exchange and you hear now, Brian Stelter
considers himself to be a journalist and an author and an
investigative journalist. And this is the drivel that passes
for journalism. There is anything real in them?
Unknown: That didn't stop me from from from reporting, the
Muller and the dossier and all that stuff.
You have a lot of resentment about now. Now
we have ethics. Okay. Now we have ethics. Don't you
dare Don't you dare act like newsroom's didn't have ethics in
2017 2018? I know.
You can't, you can don't dare me all you want, Brian. I've been
doing this for 30 years. So say whatever you want. It's my view.
And I have a right to say it, I was reminded
that the news media was unethical with minor.
Let me let me bring a fissure that I want to move on to Google
briefly. But
I think this conversation is so critical, even though it can get
tension, it's actually a matter of, can you have two things be
true at once? Can you have a story that needs scrutiny from
all outlets, because we don't want to whether or not it's
true, right access, we're all trying to figure out whether or
not the story is true. And we deserve to do that. But we also
need to think about the bigger picture, which is, God forbid,
this story was tied to some sort of bigger, disinformation effort
to penetrate our elections, we also need to consider that. And
that's why I think it's critical that you're not just seeing you
got to see the forest through the trees. You got to look at
this particular story about the hundreds. Yeah,
but no, I looked through the forest to the trees with the
President. I mean, it's always one side. And now it's time to
look at the horse. All I'm saying is let's do it
universally. Okay. I didn't, I didn't discard the Moller stuff.
I was much more skeptical because I knew the sourcing. And
I knew where I came from on Capitol Hill where I am stood in
the building for the past few decades. I have no real reason
to doubt that stuff. And I constantly did. And it turned
out a lot of it was a bunch of bunk. So I will say that
skepticism, we have to find stuff that's used to skepticism,
but don't ignore it.
Okay. So, Brian, come back in this and then I'm gonna ask
Tony, to help us through the Google case to Brian,
I agree with you. It should not be ignored. But not I think
there's a difference between reporters looking into it in
their newsrooms versus going on the air with it when it's
unvetted. And
you never did that with Trump's stuff. That's just BS.
We can't hear either of you, Brian. Let me just say briefly,
it's grievance politics. It comes from the right, it happens
every day. Newsrooms in America are very careful about this
stuff. I know viewers and readers don't see it. But it
happens every day. Slow. Cautious vetting happens.
Adam Curry: Bullshit. Sure. seltzer water, co slow, cautious
vetting happens every day in newsrooms out across America.
John C. Dvorak: So this is push shift fun. Let's,
Adam Curry: let's go to a another news outlet above urge
verge cast Nilay Patel, a lawyer, and the way they're
covering the stories about section 230, section 230, which
clearly was violated. You cannot editorialize what you have on
your open storage platform under Section 230. This is not going
to be sexually subject of a hearing and subpoenas on the
28th. And Zuckerberg and Dorsey have been called to come in and
talk about, I'm pretty sure it'll suck because these things
always suck now that nothing ever gets accomplished. But
okay, at least they're pretending to put on some kind
of show trial. But how does the verge cover this, that one of
the oldest news organizations in the United States was subverted,
their reporting, were locked out from the public Commons, which
is how you get the protection under Section 230. And just
four, you're about to post the post. Yeah. Just for context
when it comes to social networks. We have no agenda
social.com anybody can post on there I don't delete stuff. I
don't block people don't put messages on anything you don't
block people know and therefore we have protection under the law
that anything anyone says there we can't be sued over it are
good dude named Ben who runs the server can't be sued over it. We
that and that's an important symbol
John C. Dvorak: you universally block people because I block
people constantly.
Adam Curry: I as the administrator of the site, I
don't block people from from from doing anything. And because
we don't have algos, it doesn't really matter. People just
ignore those people and you can block them or silence them
yourself. But let's listen to The Verge cast because you'd
think that'd be all over the story. Oh my goodness, this is
about freedom of the press.
Unknown: And one more thing I want to talk about with you.
Before we take a break and bring on Josh Fox on, there's just 230
new ways in the world is usual. The Senate is subpoena Jack
Dorsey and Zuckerberg, Twitter released a feature that House
GOP is very mad about Twitter asking you to read the article,
which is very, very funny. And like a 2001 Slashdot way, like
Twitter's like, read the fucking article. And like the government
is mad about that, which is incredible. Yeah, got poor
Twitter. What is the current state of just like 230 in
content, moderation noise.
So the state of 230 is that there were I believe there was
another new bill this week that we didn't even get into or talk
about, and that the FCC has decided to move forward with
that really bizarre plan that Trump has been trying to push
since like, earlier this year, where they quote, clarify
section 230 by completely rewriting it, and the
interpretation is still up. Probably can't do that. And they
haven't really moved on it yet. But it's all because everyone's
really mad at Twitter for blocking that link. Last week to
the New York Post story,
Adam Curry: right. The way I hear this is they're a bunch of
douchebags. Oh, it's just 230 knows, and they're not serious
about any of it. I don't know what they're thinking. The most
spammy site in the universe, you know, dudes named Ben when they
want to test how well their browsers working, you know, for
rendering. Yeah, they go to the verge. So there's so many
trackers and so much crap. It's the it's the, you know, that
will sync your process. spike your process
John C. Dvorak: of verge you're gonna have a lot of spyware.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Go to the verge without any, any
protection. It's a very, very dirty site. Very, very
John C. Dvorak: low. There. I have I Spy Hunter, two or three
or four flips
Adam Curry: out and flips out flips out.
John C. Dvorak: They just go, oh, man, I got to take all these
cookies that you've put on there all tracking cookies, millions
of them.
Adam Curry: I'm a little concerned. And I'd like to get
into the debates. And so I have a few short clips. And as usual,
you always do a great job of running down how this went. But
the concern I have, I have no clips from the debates. Oh, I've
got all kinds of ISOs
John C. Dvorak: I've got it. Yeah. Well, there's I yeah, I
mean, I actually track post debate stuff more.
Adam Curry: Oh, of course. I understand. I have one post
debates thing as well. The concern I have though, first of
all, I have been replying stop to all the text messages. It was
out of control. I think I've got the Democrats stopped. Because
you know, you get a text message. You reply with stop and
then it says okay, to unstop literally to unstop just type
just text start. This though, so the official Trump number is I
think what is it? 8022488? Are you talking about text messages
on your phone on my phone? Yes, on my phone. Remember, I donate
it to both campaigns so I can get all of the so you'll get a
lot of crap. So and it got to be so much that I just kept saying
stop. But then I get all these and it doesn't stop. So here's
another one. From number 571-487-7784 Lindsey Graham.
This is bad. We're being outraised and outspent to two on
our Senate majority is on the line. And here comes the
problem. Chip in now they're using chip in
John C. Dvorak: Lindsey Graham uses it Allah No, I think
because
Adam Curry: else out here. I'm gonna reply stop to this one. I
have I have maybe 75 different numbers have had to say stop
too. And they just switched to a different number and start
sending this crap again. It's annoying. It is the Republican
Party, you suck. This is invasive. I can't get away from
it. And it's insulting that you asked me to chip in. And I think
they're in trouble with that. And they may have gone off and
hired some of these. Some of these companies, consultants,
yeah, they've hired the Democrat consultants, which shows they're
stupid. But this isn't Trump anymore that Trump gave my
number to every the Trump campaign gave my number to the
GOP and and they've just been flooding me and it's it's it's a
turn off. Especially when you give me the chip in
John C. Dvorak: now the Lindsey Graham should take some of that
money that he is getting. And buy a microphone. I don't know
if you've seen this, but he got a bunch of pre rolls on YouTube.
Like lots of them. Oh, really? Sounds like he's in a bucket. I
mean, can anyone make this guy?
Adam Curry: Do you have an example? Do we have any?
John C. Dvorak: No, I never thought it'd be the grab one of
the mug grab when he should be one or two more throated thrown
in my face the problem with the here's a, this kind of
interesting with certain pre rolls on YouTube. You can't
pause them. You just can't Oh, no,
Adam Curry: I know I know even with a blocker, then I get a
black page that says blocked and then it'll refresh and he does
it three times in a row. And then you finally get the video.
If you turn off the blocker. You just keep getting commercial
after commercial, you can't sometimes get out of the loop.
John C. Dvorak: Well, they can give you the ends and 54321 Skip
bad. You can get that and then you can just skip to Yeah, but
you can't stop a lot. I have no I've never run into most of the
ads. I don't know if it's true at all of them. But most of the
ads you can't stop so I can't stop the Lindsey Graham ad to
turn on a capture device because the thing runs out it you know,
runs through the whole ad before I get to thing loaded.
Adam Curry: Here's my trick. If it's something controversial,
and it's on YouTube, I just go with a bit shoot and do a search
and there before we
John C. Dvorak: get to Lindsey Graham ad. Oh,
Adam Curry: well, yeah, there are downsides. I know if you
really jonesing for some Lindsey, for some late
John C. Dvorak: I want to get you you asked me if I had a clip
I'm telling you I never got I understand. I understand.
Adam Curry: I understand. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: I mean, it sounds like this. Hi, I'm
Lindsey Graham. And I am looking for your help because I'm being
outspent. I'm being outspent by the competition. I'm gonna be
out of here. Come on lady
Adam Curry: G. There's a term I want us to be on the lookout for
and I don't Well, I know where it comes from. The term is the
inside straight. And it's being used in relation to the path to
270 Electoral College votes that President Trump needs for
reelection. And it goes something like this in 2016 his
chances of winning the election, were those of drawing an inside
straight. The question is whether this year he can draw an
inside straight two hands in a row. I'm not a card player, but
I need to understand why they're using this term. The Insight
Well, I know
John C. Dvorak: what it means if you want to know Yeah, of course
I do. Oh, you don't know. No, that's
Adam Curry: why I'm asking you. Okay, you
John C. Dvorak: got it. Okay, you got a cart. You got it's
five created pain poker got five cards? Yeah, you have a two a
three, a FIVE and a SIX and an N A, an ace. You throw the ACE
away? Or no, you wouldn't throw the ACE away in this way. Yeah,
you could keep the ACE and throw the ACE so far, you're gonna
throw a card away? Yes. Okay, let's start over a three a four,
a six and a seven. And a nominal a jack, you gotta throw the jack
away. Because it because we want to, we want to five, you want to
fight you want to 2345. So you want to you want to stray? So
there's a card in the middle that's missing? Well, it's not
two cars that either and that are missing, which is, you know,
trying to get a straight that Well, that's easy. Well, it's
not that easy, but it's easy. But to draw one card. In other
words, you have to draw it. In other words, you need a five,
there's only four of those in the deck. And you have to draw
one of them somehow that's very hard to do. So nobody only a
moron draws for it to an inside your drawers for an inside to
make an inside straight to draw us for an insights. Dumb, okay,
so
Adam Curry: what they're saying and Orange Man, moron.
John C. Dvorak: No, they're not saying he's a moron. He says the
likelihood of him doing it twice in a row is zero. Okay? They're
just saying the odds against Trump winning again, does not
exist. And it's drawing an inside straight, trying to an
insight straight. It's not possible. He can't do it twice.
Nobody playing poker could do that maneuver twice in a row and
to make it work. It's not possible. So what they're doing
all they're doing is exhibiting the fact that they're so
competent. Not that they weren't confident last time with the New
York Times saying that Hillary had 95% chance of winning. Just
worse this time, just like worse,
Adam Curry: crazy. Well, I think I think President Trump
John C. Dvorak: straight by the way is Texas. That's your card.
Adam Curry: Oh, well, I think the President will draw the
inside straight and it will be an ace of spades. As black lens
John C. Dvorak: of space can never be an inside straight.
Adam Curry: I'm just using the analogy for straight up brave
black men who are now standing up everywhere and saying no, no,
I don't think we're gonna go with Joe Biden may not vote at
all. And the biggest controversy has to be ice cube. I don't know
if you followed any of
John C. Dvorak: this. Yeah, I've been following this. This is
really funny.
Adam Curry: So here's Don Lemond reacting to ice cube who had an
interview with Chris Cuomo.
Unknown: So the black thing. Here's the problem with that. I
understand what he's saying about black people and about
descendants of slaves. Again, be careful who you are. align
yourself with because this DOS, African descendants of slaves,
Adam Curry: okay, I don't want to say too much I think Don
Lemon is a DOS not a DOS eight OS
John C. Dvorak: eight I like a DOS but he also is what they
used to call the DOS operating system.
Adam Curry: Dos. He also says African descendants of slaves
and it truly means our American descendants of slavery. But
okay, he pretends not to know what it is what I'm saying
African
John C. Dvorak: descendants? Yes, yes, he's a
Adam Curry: dick. He's a complete idiot. Listen,
Unknown: I understand what he's saying about black people and
about descendants of slaves. Again, be careful who you align
yourself with because this dadoes African descendants of
slaves
Adam Curry: was just completely wrong. But also, I think, I
think it's one of like, Scott, like Scott Adams did. Oh, yeah.
What's that show Adam and John do is kind of like a put down on
purpose.
John C. Dvorak: Are you think that's what you really think
that? What Scott Adams? No, no, no, Scott Adams did that. But
Oh, I
Adam Curry: totally think that it's Don Lemon knows what's
going on. He knows what's going on. Let's just listen to the
rest of this.
John C. Dvorak: Just being in Seoul.
Unknown: Russian bots, a lot of bots online. So,
Adam Curry: and this is how I got interested in this. When Joy
Reid was saying this. A dose of a dose is Russian bots. He's
repeating this now. And after coming, come on, clearly. I
mean, unless I'm a Russian bot, which is possible. It's just
bullcrap
Unknown: targeting doing the dirty work of Russia. For that
and to discriminate, I think, again, it's okay to point out
that you're just sending a slave don't get me wrong, that's fine.
And some people are not. And that doesn't make one person
less or more black than another person. But to discriminate
against.
John C. Dvorak: Does anybody else ever get to talk with this
guy?
Adam Curry: With Don Lemon? Yes. Oprah, Oprah, actually mo did a
big deconstruction of that, which I'm not going to play.
Where he is basically Oprah, what who you're hearing talking
about because the Oprah called up, Don said, Hey, here's what
you're gonna have to do want to
Unknown: say, well, we just want this because we are black in
this way. I think it's discriminatory, because people
of color there's there's power in numbers. It shouldn't be
there's nothing wrong with having a plan for black America.
And not just black Americans who are descendants of slaves.
Adam Curry: And this is exactly what ice cube was doing. Ice
Cube said. And he's used the A das word in several interviews.
He said, No, this has to be specifically for us that we need
something. And immediately, you know, that takedown started to
come like, Oh, what are you aligning with Trump? And as it
turns out, no. He went with his contract for black America to
the Biden campaign and went to the Trump campaign. And the
Trump campaign said, Hmm, interesting. Okay, we'll put a
couple things in our plan. And we'll call it platinum. Seeking
that would work. Call it platinum. They love the
platinum. And the Biden Harris camp said, after we win will
have power, which is exactly the problem. A Das has been as tired
of hearing. Yeah, afterwards, we went and have coffee and after
we will take we'll take care of you after the fact. So this is
ice cube clearing that misconception up
Unknown: are you have you decided how you're going to vote
November 3?
Adam Curry: This is I think this may be the Breakfast Club.
morning radio show, just listen to how this guy positions
everything towards towards ice cube and again against Trump.
Unknown: Are you have you decided how you're going to vote
November 3? I actually haven't. You know, it's a vote because
there's a lot of things to vote for, you know, in California up
and down, you know, our city and state. But I just you know, I'm
a real, true undecided voter because they're not doing
enough. And the white supremacy alignment of Donald Trump and
those the people he has working for him who are open with over
white supremacists. Wow,
Adam Curry: do you want to support the overtly white
supremacist or the covertly ones?
Unknown: You know, racism comes in many forms but overt white
supremacy that doesn't that doesn't put you off in
potentially supporting Donald Trump.
Well, I'm not supporting Donald Trump. You know, why supremacy
do turn me off. You know, but it's everywhere. And meats on
both sides of the aisle. And, you know, that's just the
reality that we live in. And I'm not naive to that. So, you know,
we're in gold and white supremacy. So, you know, that's
just something we're gonna have to fight our way out of.
Adam Curry: So regardless of what he's going to do, his
message was, hey, I just asked everybody to give me some
thoughts and put something into their plan. That's his story
sticking to it, but it kind of caught fire, even though he's
really a not a dynamic speaker, and boring, in general to listen
to, it started to catch fire, and it started to catch some
traction. So then, of course, the mainstream media has to come
out and do something about it. Here's Ari on MSNBC, listen to
this nasty trick.
Unknown: Here, you're not a legislator. But as I mentioned,
a lot of artists and a lot of black leaders have been frankly
ahead of this, whether it's the point of conflict and violence
with the police or your document goes into reparations economics
to the presentation, specifically of black people in
our world, whether that's news media over here, or
entertainment media. So I think it's fascinating document. I
want to get into more with it. I also because this is the news.
And everybody gets the questions I wanted to give you
Adam Curry: notice what he's doing. First of all, this is
News. This is not entertainment. The guy on the midday on MSNBC,
this is NEWS, baby, not entertainment. So let me
disparage you think it's fascinating
Unknown: document. I want to get into more with it. I also
because this is the news. And everybody gets the questions. I
wanted to give you a chance to address this controversy around
you as well. As you know, we'll show one of the headlines that
was reporting or alleging that you've been sharing, quote, anti
semitic images or theories. We can show one example of one that
went up that people did take that way. I wanted to give you
the chance to address that. What do you say to people who look at
things like this and think that while you're calling for civil
rights, that allegedly you're also sharing this kind of
material?
Adam Curry: Please, black America, Athos pay attention to
what happened there. He he, a black man is saying hey, you
know we're getting gypped. And this guy turns around says Yeah,
but you're anti semitic. Could you get more toxic than that?
Why? Yes, you can. If your name is Chelsea Handler, as we know,
Chelsea Handler had a relationship with Fitty cent
years ago. I don't know how long it lasted. But she was very
vocal about it. Haven't heard him say too much about it. 50
cent came out and said, Cole, I looked at the Joe Biden plan.
With my state and local taxes. And this, I'll be paying 62%
taxes, income tax. I don't want to become 20 cent, which is a
great line. Well, that had to be corrected.
Unknown: You heard about my ex boyfriend, right? 50 cent and
have support of Donald Trump. Yeah,
what's going on between me I saw your tweets and I go, wait,
what's happening? Because you said he was your favorite ex
boyfriend. And then he, what does he do supporting Trump?
He says he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes, which by the way,
is in a plan of Joe Biden's that's that's that's a lie. So
he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes because he doesn't want to
go from being 50 cents to 20 cents. And I and I had to remind
him that he was a black person, so he can't vote for Donald
Trump and that he shouldn't be influencing an entire swath of
people who may listen to him because he's worried about his
own personal pocketbook. So I haven't heard back from him yet,
but I am willing to, you know, seal the deal and more ways than
one if he changes his mind and publicly denounces Donald Trump,
I might be willing to go for another spin.
John C. Dvorak: You know what I'm talking about. Brother,
where are you getting these horrible clips?
Adam Curry: That's just the quote. That's the quality. The
quality of the clip. Yeah, they
John C. Dvorak: sound like they're taken from a speaker
Adam Curry: while she was on a video chat with Jimmy Fallon.
Oh, that's why they would sound like crap. That's most things in
case you hadn't noticed. Yeah. So she said, I had to remind him
he's a black person. He can't vote for Donald Trump. That's
pretty much the reverse is the message the reverse of what? Joe
Biden said he and she'll whore herself out thank you for using
it. That's that's the strategy be whores. I guess she looks at
Kamala and thinks oh, that's the way to go. That's the way to get
things done. He's this really well, and it's very racist. Slow
bra. low brow. Okay, I guess we could call it low brow.
John C. Dvorak: low brow. Well, I gotta do talking about
Hollywood types. I have the one another Hollywood event. And I
haven't asked yet and part of it. I decided to cut this thing
at chop it so I could ask you a question after the first half.
All right. There's Hollywood event Part One
Unknown: Assemble, voters assemble that's the name of a
virtual fundraiser that will see Avengers stars Chris Evans,
Scarlett Johansson, Don Cheadle, Paul Rudd, Mark Ruffalo and Zoe
Saldana quote, unite for democracy in support of Joe
Biden's presidential campaign. Senator Kamala Harris is also
set to participate in the grassroots fundraiser hosted by
the Russo brothers on October 20. At 6:45pm. Eastern the
virtual event will include a q&a and a trivia game, Evan Saldana
and Rafa Lowe had been particularly vocal on social
media about voting in the upcoming election, Ravello
recently encouraged his followers to share what America
they want to live in and use the hashtag with fight and we can he
helped start the trend by posting his own video.
Adam Curry: I want to live in America. Okay. Not everybody is
trying to play the game that no one can win. It's ask Adam.
John C. Dvorak: What kind of America does Mark ruffle? Oh,
and by the way, these guys go of grassroots money want they just
put some of their own money and anyway, that's beside the point.
So Mark Ruffalo wants to live in an America with Biden we can
what kind of America is that? What do you think just in a
nutshell?
Adam Curry: Well, is it a sentence? Is it a one I just
need to know what kind of answer can America
John C. Dvorak: I'd like to live in? I want an America that. What
I mean, what would just just generally what would is it for
more freedom? Or just? Well, you wouldn't you would black lives
matter? You
Adam Curry: would think you would think he would say
equality. Equality and justice. Equality, equity. Maybe he just
wants to live in black America. Maybe? Here we go, Wait,
John C. Dvorak: let's see what he actually says.
Unknown: I want to live in America, or climate change in
the climate catastrophes are taken seriously. And more and
more climate policy and science is led by science.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, by the way, science by science.
Adam Curry: Wow. I don't want to play Wow. What a dick. Don't you
go live in a lab. Loser. Oh, my goodness. With that. I'd like to
thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the
man who put the sea and card shark John C. Dvorak
John C. Dvorak: yellow in the morning to you Mr. Adam corral.
So in the morning all ships to see boots on the ground feet in
the air subs in the water and all the names and nights out
Adam Curry: and in the morning to our trolls who have been here
I think almost for almost all the 13 years and the troll room
no agenda stream.com You can go in there troll. Listen to the
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this we have a stream with all of the great podcasts from no
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The the Gosh, man, if more more people got a mastodon survey, it
would be so great. Also reading just one that was an interesting
stat about Twitter. I don't know if you saw that. Here it is.
Yeah, the Pew Research Center came out with a study. And the
small small share of highly active Twitter users are mainly
Democrats and they produce the bulk of tweets from the United
States according to Pew Research, so they finally kind
of have what they wanted. Which is get everybody with opposing
views mainly not Democrat Party views. Get them off. So why
doesn't everyone just leave them set up a mic good setup Yes, you
did set up a mastodon server Masto dot host ma sto dot host
we have no relationship with it. But this is a good kid from
Denmark. And and you can immediately communicate with
everybody who also has one of these servers and make that your
right wing space, which will trigger a lot of Mastodon people
for sure. But there's so many things you can do people anyway.
No agenda social.com You can get invite from from the troll room.
Please don't email and you should be able to put it on
Twitter and actually get an invite from somebody else.
Everybody who's on Noah, Jenna social.com can do this. And
we'll see you there. It is where John C. Dvorak loves the signal
to noise ratio and post regularly as opposed to Twitter.
He has given up very good and then a big in the morning to Tom
toenail Tom to nail nailed it with the artwork for episode
1288 The title of that was croaker. And this was a 13 year
celebratory goat and we had a lot to choose from Once again,
there was something about the combo of the orange the way it
phased, just a goat. It's it's a beautiful goat. The 13 years up
at the top, and what other criteria did we bring into play?
And what
John C. Dvorak: was an attractive goat? It was a good
use of the goat. It's
Adam Curry: a good goat.
John C. Dvorak: We haven't really used the goat meme much
in the art. True. Well, I mean, people have tried it but it
doesn't work as well. But this goat was like, centerpiece
Adam Curry: is good. Such a nice piece, a centerpiece goat, and
it was a lot of other stuff.
John C. Dvorak: But what was a lot of good art.
Adam Curry: Now you took notes because we were supposed to talk
about some of the other art.
John C. Dvorak: Well, we did have another attempt at
cheesecake was getting closer and I use this. I use this page
for the newsletter, which was Darren O'Neal. And here's a kick
continue. He finally started looking at into cheesecake. I
think he did some research and found a little pin up or
something. And he put some Nike shoes on her and a 33 wristband
and tried to try to gussy her up
Adam Curry: kind of like a Varga girl.
John C. Dvorak: Follow a bit Marga girl and close may have
been actually I
Adam Curry: think those are those may be spin shoes I think
for spinning whatever
John C. Dvorak: Nike says for sure. Yeah, they're Nikes Yeah.
And so he had to he had to write he headed there. He's headed
there but he still hasn't done that the knockout piece yet
right? That just goes hole What a piece.
Adam Curry: I wanted of those one of those you go hold a
piece. So there
John C. Dvorak: you have it. Two bids. Some other nice. It was a
lot of good art. That show
Adam Curry: there was a lot of Toobin stuff, which we didn't go
for.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, the tube is tube. It's hard to make
funny. The
Adam Curry: Iranian proud boys was nice. But to us it was like
another t shirt.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, the t shirt gag is pretty stale.
Adam Curry: And from the producer of House of Cards had
misspelled house.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, that was
Adam Curry: that was off. Close due to media control. That was
another Darren piece. We'd like that one that you can play along
with this
John C. Dvorak: piece I liked and probably more than the the
go to you actually use but they never did. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So we appreciate Tonto nails, fantastic work, but
really the work of all of these artists, cuz you and we know why
you do it. We know just want to hear us criticize you. And we're
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someone criticizes you so you become even better. So painful.
So you become even better and go to no agenda, art generator.com
That's where you can see all this fantastic stuff that people
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it's my 40th birthday today why not donate to match my birthday?
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Adam Curry: Oh, I'll check that out. Yeah, well
John C. Dvorak: I continue to read why not a donation to the
match my birthday I cannot express how grateful I am for
the amazing deconstruction you guys do week after week even
when I send clips to John and he replies back and calls me tone
deaf I don't I've never called anyone don't deficit my wife I
still love you John. I will stay send you a knob bone pictures
whenever I pass through not bone Indiana. He's referring to one
of the greatest cities in the world. Any whosits Can I get
some guy gotta and Glenfiddich at the roundtable. I think Adam
can do that. I would like to be known as Sir Craig Knight of the
fishermen. Can I get a Hillary laugh to the head and her head
has gone for jingles my best friend
Unknown: Oh
John C. Dvorak: yeah. Oh good. I just caught a bug. The Rona. I
caught a peanut skin.
Adam Curry: Oh, you throat Are you fisting?
John C. Dvorak: No. Can I get a Hillary laugh to the head her
head is gone for jails. My best friend's wife has been battling
cancer for a few years and has received some not great news.
Can I get an F cancer for her and a healing karma for the
family hard to see someone in her 30s with two younger girls
go through this I'll straight
Adam Curry: straighten yourself out and I will definitely get
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it? Get it and Glenfiddich get a good Gouda gotta go to go to
John C. Dvorak: att a goetic Gotta go together I don't know
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Unknown: You've got karma
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she hears the goat scream. Yeah, good. Burlap. As a first time
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Please de douche me.
Adam Curry: You bet.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C. Dvorak: I'm skeptical of the idea that there's a single
creator in the universe that doesn't pass the smell test for
me. And maybe doesn't stink. Luckily for you, too. I'm open
to the why is it lucky for us? I'm open to the idea.
Unknown: We're not going to hell.
John C. Dvorak: Sometimes, oh, yeah, actually it might be gives
us a nudge to make sure our personal conversation balanced
before heading into work. Each day I sit down on my patio with
my cup of coffee and read my email. Yesterday my inbox showed
33 unread emails. Even though the magic number caught my
attention I was certainly was nothing more than a coincidence.
Or coinkidink. I read the emails and went on with my day the
universe would not be ignored. This morning. I was again
greeted with 33 unread emails. I'm not that dumb are stubborn.
The message was clear donate to no agenda and don't be stingy
with the amount you've received tremendous value and it's time
to pay it back please accept my donation $1,000 In my request to
be knighted as cert Christian of Phoenix, no fancy titles or
puns, names and current location will do just fine. To all
listeners producers and my soon to be fellow Knights and Dames
don't ignore the signs when something you randomly see or
hear reminds you of the no agenda show. Take the hint and
donate especially if it's the magic number.
Unknown: jobs jobs jobs
you've got
John C. Dvorak: Daniel surveyor of the realm which is one of
those pen names Catherine or 90 bucks from Victoria BC Thank you
very much beautiful place Happy anniversary. Here's money
Daniel.
Adam Curry: Thank you. short sweet and to the point short
John C. Dvorak: and sweet and to the point, sir JD our buddy and
Baron of Silicon Valley 333 70 Happy verse anniversary to the
best podcast in the universe. I keep up the great work keep it
up gents. No, jingles just got Carmen please read the message
that I've mailed in for the last three shows. This is the 33 l e
t producer donation to help celebrate Right, sure. JD Baron
of Silicon Valley in such look for the email as soon as we can
Adam Curry: leet indeed, three three 3.70 Thank you very much
sir. Here you go. You've got karma
John C. Dvorak: anonymous in Louisville 333 56. By TM gents
I've been listening for about six months without donating
please do which means you've been reduced. When I heard that
the show birthday and my own are in the same week. I knew it's
time to donate. Okay, got another guy needs to be put on
the birthday list. A bet. It was time to donate. The numerology
part of the show is so great. So a 33 theme donation seemed like
the most sense and I threw in the 56 for Adam's birthday. When
the Venn diagram of JR II and Tom Woods centered on this show,
I knew it was special. John, please consider this a Tom Wood
conversion in your ledger. Okay, all right. Not really keeping
tabs. Purging goes please play love you mean it? I hope this is
a jingle to my smokin hot wife. I don't know.
Adam Curry: Yes, I have it. Good.
John C. Dvorak: NASCAR race in a vocation that includes boogie
boogie and smokin hot wife Trump's shouting jobs for all
the listeners that need help and finally got karma with the extra
rebel ring of the show and John be safe Yeah,
Adam Curry: we know you're not gonna get it out of him. No no
no
Unknown: job jobs jobs jobs
John C. Dvorak: okay, you can read this one. As you put that
oh, he's anonymous. Nevermind. What did we use on the birthday
list or not?
Adam Curry: We just we should just throw in an anonymous and
all the time. Shouldn't we just say anonymous Happy Birthday.
Just you know, just cover everybody cover. Everybody on
one go. Hey, anonymous How you doing? Yes, this is from a
second. I have to scroll myself here Sir John of South London.
And he has a number of Jingle requests there. And John Adam
Happy anniversary. Congrats on making it so far. And thanks for
the sanity in these unprecedented times as they like
to say, please accept this executive Prusa contribution of
$333.33 for an outstanding product that helps us all to
stay calm, focused and cheerful. Your efforts are very much
appreciated. My accounting is below for reference. For fellow
no agenda producers. Could I also recommend the dwelling pod
from Jane's Deling poll a British journalist I guess is it
a podcast? London calling? Yes. We I think we both subscribe to
that from James Delingpole and Toby young, which is geared
towards us audiences but covers UK politics and planet normal at
COVID skeptic podcast that's quite interesting. Stay safe. He
says we will not respond to that. He is Sir John of South
London. He has a Baronet. And we appreciate that very much and
have your jingles for you ready sir? Donald loves Nazi. Donald
loves Nazis. CNN say that he's PKK having shots and seek hell
with it.
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs.
Adam Curry: You've got karma. The thing is violent. That jobs
that TPP is a violent jingle. It is. But people like it. We I
think we got a lot of requests for it.
John C. Dvorak: Well, we'll see how it works. Now. David Conan
in ill trashed Netherlands 333 dot 33 In the morning, on the
13th anniversary of the no agenda show I've been doing $4 a
week for a year now but it's my first executive producer
donation please deduce me?
Unknown: You've been deed deuced
John C. Dvorak: na and I share a birthday I'll be celebrating my
33rd Another 33rd birthday. I thought and appropriate donation
was an order no jingles no karma is that many more years and
nogen had raised a toast. But the Netherlands has banned booze
to fight COVID Thank you for your courage and keep up with
the very fine work. They're ahead
Adam Curry: of the curve this they jumped the gun on the booze
ban. Wow. Way to go.
John C. Dvorak: I don't know what they're thinking. James
Fujimoto comes in next. Oh, did he ask me Jean? No, no, he said
had no jingles no karma James Fukumoto in Salem Virginia 333
dot 33 It's a very popular donation of late. Donate me Bo
Jaiden pew pew little girl yeas his requests not too much TPP
jobs Carmina he wants it again too okay he's gotten he says
need to give back since he's gotten five or six job offers in
the past year since listening. ITM John anatomy you guys got me
got the last name right awesome. I was kind of curious if a trip
you up but true professionals you are. What was I going to
Fukumoto? I mean, how would you pronounce that? So another
reason no agenda is the best podcast in the universe. The
Annoying spam callers always get off script when they hit the
last name. Anyways, figured I take advantage of some executive
producers ships on my journey to the roundtable another software
developer guest that counts as a dude named Ben and Eagle Scout.
You can add to your ranks or producers we have so many we
have a
Adam Curry: lot of Eagle Scouts Thank you very much Mr Fukumoto?
Use violence I tell you violence
John C. Dvorak: you're up you're up.
Adam Curry: Okay. When you do that, it makes it kind of hard
for me to also cure Okay, don't do
John C. Dvorak: I got it. I can't do it. 333 33 I just got
it. Please leave this anonymous. Does one of those long anonymous
notes that you'd like to read? I'm another ra na mo ro na mo ro
Namo Namo I'm not sure what who the what's wrong? Oh, no
Adam Curry: agenda? No. MoeFactz.com rownum Oh,
John C. Dvorak: so he came in from mo facts?
Adam Curry: No, he came in from Rogan. No.
John C. Dvorak: He's a Rogan guy decided to listen to no agenda
and Mo facts. He's a double hit. Yep. And the first donation is
well overdue. Please de douche me. Okay. You fancied deuced
thanks to you to keeping me sane during our two weeks to flatten
the curve soon to be eight month anniversary. Looking for
California refugee karma as we are setting selling our house
and leaving behind Silicon Valley to make our way brothers.
That's number two. Hold on a second. I'm keeping track of
though brothers. I'm limiting myself.
Adam Curry: Yes, you should.
John C. Dvorak: Amen to Kansas, he making our way to Kansas
City. Kansas City here I come to my future friends in Kansas.
Don't worry. I won't be California in anywhere. You can
help a dude do certain things to be even Adam went to Austin and
the next thing you know he's telling us that might turn red.
Adam Curry: Yes, seriously. That's that's the rumor. That's
the rumor.
John C. Dvorak: My smoke that would I like to see? Yeah, my
smokin hot wife and I value our freedom over safety shout out to
Big Ben Franklin. And two people really are this dumb, scared and
lazy. Somehow, I suppose surprising and completely not
surprising. At the same time. I'm sure there's a Germanic word
for it. A couple of blessings in disguise during the pandemic
one, I get so much more quality time with my beautiful little
four year old human resource and two, I've avoided being rich
hunted out of my hardware engineering job at the largest
and most influential tech company in the world. Google.
Why do you think that might be Google?
Adam Curry: You think? Yeah, I think so
John C. Dvorak: working from home has made force feeding
critical race theory. Slave so much more difficult on our
cultural Alchemist 2020 cultural alchemists. 2020 definitely was
the year I wouldn't have survived the in person struggle
sessions. I've never been one to not express my opinion. Loudly.
I have a boots on the ground report for you. But filter out
all the BS emails and have no real data. What's happening in
my company? keeps me sane. That's what we do. I hit my
buddy Dave in North Carolina in the mouth several months ago.
Please call him out as a douchebag. Please was, I mean,
he made me from Google because his writing style is is just
googly. It's Google's. Gliese Wish us luck and karma as my
family and I take a huge leap of faith and start a new life with
our for our little
Adam Curry: good, good, good. That's great.
John C. Dvorak: And Kansas is probably not a bad place to do
it. Keep up do not Kansas City so much, but Kansas. Keep up the
tremendous work Can animus for now I can I please get the
following jingles Donald Trump don't trust China China's
asshole pence Pelosi Trump jobs karma there it is again for
everyone hurting right now don't eat me Bo giant in honor of
Crazy Eyes Joe's debate last Thursday and a boogie boogie
boogie boogie. Amen to help get us out of the California as fast
as we can. Drunk don't trust China Chinese guide in your skin
Unknown: jobs jobs, jobs. Jobs. Karma.
I'm really digging.
John C. Dvorak: Do you really think that's Google? We're
talking about? Yeah. Is it that bad?
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. I'll grab this next one here and grab
the next couple of ones. Don De Tomaso de Don Tomas od Toronto.
There we go. Three and $33.13 kettleby Ontario, Canada Navia.
From Don Tomas city Toronto happy 13th year no jingles no
karma? Small deducing please. Use band spend deed deuced. And
email received from you about the truth wants to come out from
Justin Trudeau and thank you for your courage and thank you for
your support. James powers from Carnegie Oklahoma also $333.13
on reading our 13 years on the pod on the pod. Take a stop.
Does it bother you when people say you know Oh, you had a great
pod or haven't listed the latest pod? I never hear that. Oh, it's
rampant. It started with the pod save America. Then they started
and of course is a very popular podcast. And they've been well
yet tomorrow on the pod and I hear it everywhere and you know
what's worse? Firstly, your favorite word webinar. What do
you think of the time weapon webinar? So now what is the new
term you are not going to believe it ladies and gentlemen,
I introduce to you the pod dinar it's a thing. The pod dinar it's
it irks me I would I will boycott anything that is titled
pod dinar.
John C. Dvorak: You may play the Adam Curry's pet peeve of the
day to round things out.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Well, you caught me off guard but sure.
John C. Dvorak: That is a big pet peeve with you.
Adam Curry: Vaguely. So this is from James powers, a dude named
James and Oklahoma grass Chasity and Adam on your 13th
anniversary you both have given me much needed sanity in this
year of shoutouts chaos. Thank you so much for doing the real
work dealer's choice of Jingle and no karma needed. Wow. Okay,
in that case sorry, I wasn't prepared for that dealer's
choice.
Unknown: That's and and all hell is gonna break loose and you're
gonna need a Bitcoin
Adam Curry: $333 from Kasha Gillette, Gillette, CA Kashia
Gillette ka from effort Pennsylvania. Never heard of
effort. In the morning gents. This is my third donation
birthday donation for Sunday. 1025 42 Yo or years old. I feel
blessed. I saw Adam on JRE back in the beginning of 2020. You
guys are awesome. Thank you for what you do. It's so it's much
needed. Love your show notes site. Thank you. It helped me
win many social media fights during the quarantine is I was
able to use clips and sources to backup my arguments. Yes, this
is an undervalued or often via 100 discussed part of what we
produce. salutely newsletter is a big part of what we do show
notes, which have many people to thank, including Dave Jones. But
also thank you to Ralphie and Tim and all the guys who put
together the search engines being it.io is my favorite.
There's a number of them no agenda quest no agenda query.com
Being at.io is my all time favorite. And it is fascinating
how great the output is because it's really just no agenda
stuff. Again, no algos, you can sort by relevance, which I guess
is kind of an algo and by date, and that's it and it works
really really well. So I'm glad you're getting some value out of
that. Shout out to my handsome husband Vojtech and are two
human resources we both listen to your show and we drive so
thank you for educating my kids. John, I love you to death but
please don't ever say Polish pierogi suck or I will be be
forced to send you some all the best from CATIA, Gillette QCCA
in effort Pennsylvania. Thank you very much Catia. It's very
kind of you. URL Walkman of Buckeye longtime supporter he is
he says hates the URL here and $333 from him and thank you very
much and I'll get the next jingles ready if you can pick
this one up.
John C. Dvorak: The Jake one. Yeah, of course.
Adam Curry: I'll pick it up halfway through the night
John C. Dvorak: of the deep blue sea comes in with a copy of war
and peace. It does donate $333 and decides to lecture us with a
long note. In the morning gentlemen, happy 30th
anniversary this one is the lace anniversary this notice from
Jake tonight at a deep blue sea and my brother
Adam Curry: ah, Topher. I met Topher. This is the easy guys
with all the Trump money stuff. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Topher. year ago, he started a company called
legendary Trump coins but we've had to rebrand as rock flag and
eagle.com Rock, flag and eagle.com we create and sell
merchandise that pays tribute to President Trump. I hope Adam
liked all the merch Topher gave him along with the $50 donation
that was counted as anonymous during the Vegas meetup. Sorry,
John, your merch is in the mail.
Adam Curry: And by the way, the reason was counted anonymously
is because Topher handed me the money in cash, I said, Do you
have an envelope a note? And I handed it off to the shill. And
that's how it goes. And we aren't clear about the notes and
the envelopes.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. The idea is you put a note in an
envelope, but the money check whatever you want to put in the
envelope your check is, is preferred. And then you write
the note when you put on the note your name and location
we've had and you could put anonymous on the note is fine or
just put an envelope or just money in it. That's just
Anonymous is fine. We've had a tough time of it with our trump
merch. We've had periods of great sales, but when things
start getting good, and their algo is really working face bag
has Oh Facebook does cancel our advertising account on two
separate occasions. Really. They offer amazing targeting, but
only if they agree with your message. That's interesting. It
seems both times we had underlyings tell us it didn't
look like we did anything wrong. They having someone above them
tell us our accounts could not be reenabled since they had gone
against the community standards. There's a long note I appreciate
note like this has got information. They wouldn't even
tell us what we did wrong. This is what irks me the most is what
happened to Polly the amazing Polly. She got kicked off of Pay
Pal and nobody could tell her what happened. Pay Pal. Yeah,
that was the last thing that happened to wow. They wouldn't
even tell us what we did wrong. So we couldn't circumvent their
policies. Well, you don't want to circumvent their policy. You
just want to do it right. But if you can't do it, you can't do
it. Right. If they can't tell you what right is. We're simply
told to read the community standards. That's helpful. Yeah,
that's why we changed the name of the site maybe because they
didn't like having Trump's name in our URL URL that will do it
it's not you know, this is not Zuckerberg. This is the the
social justice warriors that that plague a lot of companies
and they're the ones in there doing all this stuff. You should
not be hiring these people. I'm talking to one one of our
producers about you know, I'm trying to put together a list of
good questions to ask you some ways to spot these people. And
you have to jump through hoops the dam continuing to note then
you have to jump through hoops to get a new account set up has
been frustrating to say the least if there are any listeners
who are corporate lawyers that want to help us out forget about
it. We'd love to see what we can find during discovery not worth
it. We think there's some shady stuff going on for sure sure
there we think it Facebook causes at least 150,000 That's
what it's going to cost you when lawyers fees. During the more
than two months we weren't able to run ads as the push toward
the exits not the only place you can run ads. As we push towards
the election we wanted to offer no agenda listeners who happen
to be Trump fans a special discount 33% of all orders over
$20 in excluding clothing with a coupon code ITM just go to rock
flag and eagle.com and use the code ITM when you check out we
will like a job karma the awesome new one again, hello gy
goat karma in the morning boys and there's to another 13 years,
Topher and Jake Knight of the deep blue sea
Adam Curry: and cofounders of rock flag and eagle.com Thank
you very much, gentlemen, for your courage
Unknown: you've got karma
John C. Dvorak: warning balls. Next up Oops, oops, oops, oops.
Lauren balls next on the list from Slidell, Louisiana $260.62.
There is no note that says don't with the subject line donation
from her. There is no note from somebody named ball, first named
Lauren or Lehren. Li er en,
Adam Curry: but we appreciate it.
John C. Dvorak: Dave duco America's heartland and Arabian
Peninsula is yes, supposedly in Gladstone, Missouri, but he's
not doing a $60 donation. I'm sure he's still stuck where he
stuck, which is in Saudi Arabia, Juan Carlos and Adam, congrats
to the 13th countless years of amygdala shrinking and sanity
promoting context content that is spewed from your molest Louis
mouthfuls through all of our emancipated earholes we're all
better for it. Thank you for your courage, Dave.
Adam Curry: Dave, thank you, man. Go ahead. I'll take the
halls random.
John C. Dvorak: 233 33 Greeley, Greeley Colorado, go west. Happy
birthday to my smokin half, my smokin hot singer songwriter
wife, Joanna Marvel 1026 and our brilliant human resource Ollie
danger 1116 science and goat karma for high schoolers in
limbo. Paul in Greeley, people are learning
Unknown: through science.
Adam Curry: Next up on the list, we have a nanny moose anonymous
in the morning, hey, and J just got married on 1010. Consider
this our wedding deposit to you as our vendors for infotainment
and small villas. We're happy to help. If possible, John, please
recite the following as our wedding gift. You see the
John C. Dvorak: note we did this one in the last show.
Adam Curry: Well then why is it here again? But is this just a
second time? I don't remember I remember the slogan.
John C. Dvorak: Got your marriage. He taught you about
the work that he did teaching Chinese and the Chinese
dissidents it turns out they thought they were wrong and
because he listened to the show that they were right.
Adam Curry: So how did this get in here?
John C. Dvorak: So do we it probably went it came in at a
time issue at the midnight hour. Okay, like that. Alright, so
we'll just skip it. All right, then I'll move on to the next
you've been done.
Adam Curry: Yaroslav Lapin bleeping lap and Yaroslav to one
$31 from Fairfield California. For Adam f the EU jingle Nancy
Pelosi has jobs karma This is my 33 cents per episode have no
agenda. I started listening idea. That's it. So how long
have you been listening? I started on episode 588. Wow.
That's pretty cool. It's album arch stuck in my player for a
year. That's why I remember it. It was the soldier Afghan poppy
fields. Cheese. You really missed out on that. I was missed
that a lot of good art, a lot of good stuff. I was listening to
1288 and really listening to the 588 at the same time today.
Okay. To my surprise, both of the mentioned the white paper on
how Russia hates gays and the Sochi Olympics. Oh, that's
interesting. I just had an email conversation with Brian the gay
Crusader about In fact, we talked about on the last show
Brian's in Philadelphia and he told us about the Barack Obama
driving honk Athan, the honk event. Yeah, that's Brian, the
gay Crusader. We were just talking about this as well, but
the white paper that he wrote from the no agenda show notes on
the show. This topic was why I turned to no agenda in the first
place some podcasts and English that understands what is
happening in Russia. Are they allowed to play FTE you I
couldn't ignore this coincidence and had to do something I do for
too long. I also lost my job right before the corona hit. So
jobs karma would be appreciated. I will be extending I will be
sending an extended note from my email address and that will be
coming up later. Okay. And let me grab the F the EU which we
have think we have the
John C. Dvorak: map played that for a long time been a
Adam Curry: very long time. And this is what I'll say.
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for job. Karma.
John C. Dvorak: Next on the list as we round it to straight away.
Sir Tristan banning in Toronto Ontario to 1369 Congrats on 13
years dudes. Anyways, jobs karma for all
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's karma.
John C. Dvorak: Michael Bryan comes up next from Laguna Niguel
in California to 1313 and he is no note and I couldn't find a
note in the email looking under donation in the subject line or
his name, Gumby nerds vibe count of the troll room Green Bay,
Wisconsin. 212 1213 years holy flogging shifts. Adam, thanks
for hand crafting the finest sound quality experience of all
podcasting. You know, by the way, I should mention this. It
is pretty close to the finest if it's not the finest and it's
definitely to find a single hander ever, ever and ever will
be now. Where's an award for this? Where's it engineering
award for this? I'd like to
Adam Curry: know. Well. Thank you. That's a good point. Yes,
where's my award? Well, that was the first award that was the
first award I got and best produce podcasts at the first
Podcast Awards I think.
John C. Dvorak: Adam thanks for hand crafting the finest sound
quality spirits of all podcasting way you present the
no agenda shows top notch media deconstruction John, thanks for
being there. For your real sport.
Unknown: Thanks for breathing. Thanks.
John C. Dvorak: Thanks for Thanks for showing up. Next,
Jacob
Adam Curry: forester $200 and Suazo enough 69 cents last few
episodes have been straight fire, as my fellow Millennials
would say. Let's keep it 100. The show has provided so much
value to me recently I could not stand idle thus I am chipping in
longtime listener second time donor I've been hitting people
in the mouth left and right who will spare them a douchebag call
out for now but you know who you are. My quest for the end of the
year is to get my sensationally smokin hot wife and incoming
human resource cooked on the show. Well I think if you get
the mom hooked and the kid is automatically hooked when it
pops out the kid needs some infotainment down there's Oh my
wife Chelsea, I give you a Come on man. Our kid can help save
the world if we don't start them early. Thank you for all you do.
Jingle requests Trump arouse China aihole and random owl
karma no go
Unknown: it was hard to get it aroused and it is hard to get it
aroused but we got it arrest
DSP ice you've got karma.
John C. Dvorak: Last on the list is John Downing and lost wages
Nevada tuner bucks. No need for Warren Piece. I bug you enough
on Twitter at Downing 702 D douche me.
Unknown: You've been deemed deuced
John C. Dvorak: gonna need an F cancer but he wants to call
Melissa out as a douchebag. And thanks for all you do. I go by
Mike and I'm only putting my personal email here for
accounting purposes. And then he's got it. Let me read it to
you.
Adam Curry: All right, thank you very much.
John C. Dvorak: Did it there at all. Anyway, he needs an F
cancer. Yes,
Adam Curry: John, thank you very much for being our last
Associate Executive Producer for episode 1289.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Thank you for keeping the notes short where
possible. That was very nice, very enjoyable. I want to thank
all of our executive producers Associate Executive producers
but all the dame's the knights, the barons, URLs, the the
baronet's the every to everybody. And all producers who
support this show. I think we can do at least another year. No
clicking, no cleaning, no clip and go to no clicky pen, stop
the clicky pen.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah. You know, there's the there it is.
Get rid of it got the pen and there's a you know how I can
deal with this. I've got to get rid of clicky pens.
Adam Curry: Yes. That was the suggest regular pens suggestion
for
John C. Dvorak: tricky. Get rid
Adam Curry: of your clicky pens, man, man, get rid of them. So
we'll have another show. It'll be it'll be right at our actual
anniversary, of course, is the 26th which is tomorrow. But
we'll be very glad to see y'all come back again on Thursday when
we break it down one more time as we get closer to the most
important election of our lifetimes. And either way, as
you know for the show, whoever wins, it's good for the show.
Pretty much. In fact, Joe would probably be a little better for
this. To be honest. We'll be thanking more people on our
second donation segment again We only ask that you contribute
some value, whatever you get out of the show, put it into numbers
put into time, talent or your treasure. And numbers are always
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Unknown: vote.org/and. A and thank
Adam Curry: you once again for helping us produce the single
best podcast in the universe.
Unknown: Our formula is this, we go out, hit people in the mouth
John C. Dvorak: shut up. Before we get into the Trump stuff, and
the debate stuff, at Biden, in the Biden stuff, I have a clip I
want to play. Because it does kind of refer back to some
things that we read in the notes. Okay. You know, Jordan
Peterson, he was,
Adam Curry: yeah, he was hooked on benzos. And was he was
massive, some, you know, Valley type. It was benzos. He said,
specifically, the benzos. Were what?
John C. Dvorak: It's yeah, I think Valley and falls into this
category. Okay. But it was one of these things he got strung
out and he's still bitching about it. And he's almost died.
And he's complaining, but he's still you know, he's coming
back. He's making his comeback. But he keeps putting out these
videos, where he talks about, you know, his he's doing a lot
of laments. And this is part of one and he brings up an
interesting topic. 17 You'll hear the topic, you'll hear what
I'm talking about when you play this little clip is very short.
And I want to just reiterate, this guy's probably smarter than
me by quite a bit and probably you I'm guessing. He's a smart,
smart, smart guy. I want that as a premise to what we're about to
hear
Unknown: 17, early 2017 According to the prescribed
recommendations, and really never give it a second thought
that was a mistake. To say the least. Anyways.
Adam Curry: Oh, wait, isn't he can't isn't he Canadian? Yeah.
Oh, the vote doesn't count.
John C. Dvorak: Who they said. Did they say any ways? I guess
it I guess.
Adam Curry: So. You know, we have single handedly watch this
language change and it's just been accepted. I but I would
like to, I would appeal to Merriam Webster, who as we know,
are the arbiters of language. They change definitions on the
fly overnight. I would prefer if we're going to use any ways for
it to be spelled with a Z. And I am going to start using it as
is. Anyways, that should be
John C. Dvorak: I will. I'll throw in with you.
Adam Curry: How about a NYW a yz. E. Anyways.
John C. Dvorak: Anyway, with that, it sounds like a promotion
for the way Oh, okay.
Adam Curry: No, we don't want that anyway, it's just anyways
with a Z. That should be and that is not the official
pronunciation, usage and spelling for the no agenda show.
And
John C. Dvorak: so you're gonna have to emphasize it. So it's
not anyways, it's any ways?
Adam Curry: Yes, you have to have to do it right. Anyways.
You can also spelled a and IWAZE. That is the European, the
British spelling.
John C. Dvorak: Nice, there's one clip that would float around
as we get this out of the way. This is a clip that is floating
around everyone's played is very funny. classic, classic,
classic. This is Biden on voter fraud. Oh, yes. This
Adam Curry: is a very good one. Secondly,
Unknown: we're in a situation where we have put together and
you guys data for our admission, the President Obama's
administration. Before this, we have put together I think, the
most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the
history of American politics.
Adam Curry: The truth wants to come out. And what he's
referring to is the fact check the international fact checking
network, which is go ahead and look it up is I think we'd
discussed it two or three shows ago, is paid for from donations
from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Soros Open
Society Institute, and the Pierre Omidyar drive my car
outfit. It's up. Did you see USA facts? Fac Ts, USA facts has
been advertising the facts. And it's actually it. It looks like
you're gonna get a Trump isn't a hole. And then it kind of shows
that Trump might have done some good stuff. It has charts you
know about unemployment, etc. And I had to look it up. This is
the Steve Ballmer and his wife, do you remember that they were
going to put the he was on Bill Maher along like a year ago
maybe? He said oh yeah I'm putting Omar Ballmer. Yes Do you
Barney? Yes. Yes, Steven Connie. They have put their money into
USA facts.com And it seems straight up. See, and that just
had these these ads that may be it doesn't say Trump or or Biden
or anything like that. Just say Get the facts USA facts and I've
looked at it. It's pretty decent. And interesting that I
wouldn't peg Vollmer for a truthful guy at all. He's a
sales guy. He's a he's a bonafide brown shoe wear and
sales guy. Oh, yeah, no, he is the sales guy. So interesting
that he's running that huh?
John C. Dvorak: If you want to play I just before we get into
any more it says we played that buying clip. I do have something
in a no agenda classics. Don't mind people. This is a 13th
anniversary. Okay. We used to have a couple of clips, some
Biden clips since we're gonna be talking about Biden in a second.
That were pretty classic. I have the new agenda classic. This is
from 2003 that we used to use as a reference point. In the early
shows this is Biden on gay marriage
Unknown: president used his radio dress yesterday and
tomorrow in the Rose Garden to talk about a constitutional
amendment to ban gay marriage.
You know, think about this. The world's going to Hades in a
handbasket. We are desperately concerned about the circumstance
relating to avian flu. We don't have enough vaccines. We don't
have enough police officers and we're going to debate the next
three weeks. I'm told gay marriage, a flag amendment and
God only knows what else. I can't believe the American
people can't see through this round. We have a law, the
Defense of Marriage Act. We've all voted not right voted
another said, Look, marriage is between a man and a woman and
states must respect that. Nobody's violated that law.
There's been no challenge to that law. Why do we need a
constitutional amendment? marriage is between a man and a
woman. What's the game going on here?
Adam Curry: That's your fairweather friend isn't me?
Jaiden the gays the gays don't don't deserve it.
John C. Dvorak: Here's another one. This is another no agenda
classic this from 2008. This is his jobs clip.
Unknown: Last minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the
number one job facing the middle class. And it happens to be as
Brock says it three letter word,
John, J. O V s
Adam Curry: nothing like a three letter word like jobs.
John C. Dvorak: What an idiot.
Unknown: Ladies and gentlemen, your next President of these
United States.
John C. Dvorak: So you watch the bait. I watched I date? I did.
Adam Curry: I did.
John C. Dvorak: Would you say I got no clips from it. I mean, I
can tell you what I thought of it. I did listen to the after
the debate thing and it was pretty conclusive along you
know, you can listen to what I have a
Adam Curry: couple of shorty ISOs. And we can just go through
them and then discuss it. First, I'd like to say I thought the
message in the first 1015 minutes was clear. And you
didn't have to watch after that. In fact, not a lot of people
watched it was only 55 million, which was significantly less
than the previous one. When Trump said that Trump's message
was we've got to live. It's a 99.9% survival rate. We've got
to open up we've got to go back to work. We just we have to we
have to go we need to live we have to be vibrant. And Biden
came right back in with no, we got to lock it down, get under
control. You know, he had some quip about life. He said death.
Then he brought in the dark winter. Which words matter. And
I'm sure you got a ton of emails about the Dark Winter statement.
Did you
John C. Dvorak: know I got no emails about the dark winter's
day but I do have Trump and Florida discussing it.
Adam Curry: Okay, hold on a second to play that first. Yeah.
Unknown: It was always you got it. You're immune. I get it.
Nope. It's only good for four months. Perfect this last night
Biden in his very weak debate performance said. Did you see
some of the debates 91% to 990 1% in my favor. To 991
Tonight, I liked that. I liked the sound of the but last night
he said America is entering a dark winter. Is that really
inspirational? He's running the press The thick of it, we have
this guy that can't even speak and he goes, We're entering a
dark winter. So inspirational. But he's tried to scare people.
Basically, he's trying to get some because he's been such a
failure at every level of government, that this is
something but what they don't remember is the swine flu and
how bad it was, but I bring that up whenever I can. But we're not
entering a dark winter, we're entering the final turn and
approaching the light at the end of the tunnel. That's the way I
look.
Adam Curry: Alright, so dark winter, and I heard this and I
immediately did a search and I came up with the same thing
everybody else came up with. Dark Winter was the codename for
a senior level bioterrorist attack simulation, conducted
June 22 to 23rd in 2001. It was designed to carry out a mock
version of a covert and widespread smallpox attack on
the United States, who was involved John Hopkins Center
window. So this is so analogous to event 201 that I take Dark
Winter seriously when he says that, I take it seriously. And I
don't know what they're planning. I don't know what your
ideas are. But we got your eye on we got our eye on you. And I
got a couple of links in the show notes. You can go take a
look at that. One other thing I wanted to mention. I have
analyzed Joe Biden's outfit his mask, his double masks, his
necktie, and his wristwatch. During this entire during the
previous debate. I've revisited some of his videos. He is an
analog wristwatch wearing ma'am silver wristwatch, except during
this debate, where he had an Apple iPhone, an Apple iWatch.
And he kept looking at his watch because he was clearly receiving
text messages from his back office or whoever is prompting
him. And I think that the you know, you haven't allowed to
have these watches during exams at school. And all of a sudden
he's changing his case is
John C. Dvorak: a great observation. You're right. He is
an analog wristwatch guy. Why does he all of a sudden have a
digital watch? Especially that one which and he would then
relay men he would
Adam Curry: do that? Flip the left arm out look at his watch
during a question during the question even. So I thought that
was bogus live. And just to make it clear, you know, they
shouldn't allow those those types of devices for any type of
debate too late. Yeah. Now let's see we had a cheater. Yeah, he's
I think he's a Cheater. Cheater. Let me see if I had anything
that was funny. Yeah, here's that Trump was talking about
being actually I can play that first, the least racist person
in the room. I am
Unknown: the least racist person in this room.
Adam Curry: He was really sad. He was sad that he was being
called a racist. And he said, I'd been the best the best guy
since if we're pro black since Abraham Lincoln, to which Biden
said Abraham
Unknown: Lincoln here is one of the most racist presidents we've
had in modern history.
Adam Curry: It was so confusing that he did that. I understand
what he was trying to do. But no, that didn't work very well.
What else was there? I mean, to me, he lost again, after the
contrast between light and dark at the beginning, when Trump
hounded him who built
Unknown: the cages. I'd love you to ask him that. Who built the
cages? That was him?
It took too long to get it right. took too long to get it
right. He did nothing to get it right. For too long to get it
right.
Adam Curry: He built the cages that just kept coming back over
and over again. And Joe was weak, he was weak. Trump looks
three times his size, which he is in the side by side camera.
And the President had a demeanor, which was, I would say
was presidential is what people were looking for. I think it
proves us right that he was doing a typical heel move. And
the first one, just creating confusion. It's all about the
last one. I think he understands that. And he even though and
even the moderator, I thought was pretty decent. She still
interrupted President Trump, much more than Biden
particularly was trying to make a point. But after all, this was
said and done. Frank Lutz did a zoom call with undecided voters
for the Los Angeles Times. And I think it was one one undecided,
one for Biden and 12 others for Trump, and this hit MSNBC. After
the debate, there was CNN What did you do you know what I'm
gonna play? Oh, no, I
John C. Dvorak: thought you're talking. You're talking about
lunch?
Adam Curry: No, no, I'm moving on. Now. MSNBC, he did that for
the Los Angeles Times it wasn't for CNN was Los Angeles time. I
think I might have it was, it was a whole hour of these people
talking about what they thought about the debate. And I think
Trump trail clearly did a good job there. But here is three
undecided black women that MSNBC I guess they did it live and
weren't thinking about the answers.
Unknown: I am totally undecided. I'd write your name in at this
point.
Usually by now, I would have voted already. But I I'm just
not comfortable either one of them right now.
What are you looking for? What do you need to hear?
Let's start at the crime bill and the fact that he has not not
only not apologized, not only he is not he's not only not
rectified every time he reverts back to well, it was some the
Black Caucus members in the church, but they were with the
two. Okay, you fooled them as well, you know, you never said
I'm sorry. You know, it's like,
I didn't do it. I want to hear an ironclad plan. I don't want
to hear if this or if that or after the election. Does the
presence of Kamala Harris on the Democratic ticket sway you at
all? Not
at all? I don't know who said she had our vote. She does not
we were supposed to grab on to Kamala with the black girl
magic. But that didn't happen. Because she she didn't right or
wrong. Like I hold officials accountable. I don't care what
color you are. And I think that too often we automatically think
that because someone looks like you that they're going to have
your best interests at heart. And that's that's just not
simply true.
Adam Curry: This is a crack and a chink in the armor that is
devastating for the Biden Harris camp, because they focused with
Black Lives Matter ink so heavily on black women, and then
for MSNBC to put three black women on was like math.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't think so. They had the blemish
and you can know you know how this happened. MSNBC if you were
one of these people at MSNBC, you know, they're all in with
the Democrats or DNC it you know, Trump keeps referring to
it as m s DNC. Yeah. In his speeches, he does it which is
kind of like you know, low end radio disc jockey. Very,
Adam Curry: very low.
John C. Dvorak: So he, so they say, well, we get let's just
bring three black women on what do we should maybe vet them now
there are three black women are you kidding me? Three black
women they're all with their roll in for Biden is put them
on. And they were in first chakra there. I think once this
the same way when he brings people on, because if you listen
to the end at the end of the debate, and unfortunately,
they're very hard because they never keep these these videos,
you can't go find them and you have to pick it off the air at
the time. All the commentators from NBC ABC and especially
those to CBS to a lesser extent, and CBS had the lowest ratings
for the debate of all the networks, including the cables,
Adam Curry: which was really shocking. Numbers. That is
interesting.
John C. Dvorak: And they but the NBC and ABC came to everybody at
the end, do we all roll? Biden we had Trump on the ropes. And
I'm thinking what what were
Adam Curry: these who you're watching now? Well, Hallie
Jackson
John C. Dvorak: was the worst of it. She's really bad. I'm gonna
start watching her closely.
Adam Curry: Just speaking of bad bad DJ jokes. So what is the the
one of the oldest cliche jokes is Hello, Cleveland and doesn't
matter where you are? Doesn't matter where you are. Yeah.
Kamala Harris was literally in Cleveland yesterday. It's a
little hard to hear and I couldn't find the full clip to
I'll tell you what happens. And then see if you can catch what's
weird at the end. Till she gets out of the cop car. She's going.
She's on borderline illegal because there's a line for
people to go into the polling place. And she stands on the
other side of the road with a megaphone and his yelling but
John C. Dvorak: yeah, it's illegal that's electioneering.
It's illegal. Well,
Adam Curry: she did it. But what's funny is if you can hear
it in this clip, she starts off she gets has the mic. It's only
nine seconds, has the megaphone, turned to the guy and says,
Where are we Cleveland? I swear to God, it's the funniest thing
and then at the end something odd.
Now it was cut off which pisses me off because she says it's
Kamala. She says it's Kamala.
John C. Dvorak: Her name Kamla. Her name
Adam Curry: is Kamala Kamala. She has Kamala she says that
John C. Dvorak: she said that's what I said in one of the shows.
I don't know how she pronounced he pronounces her name
Adam Curry: differently, her own name differently. Every single
time Hello, is this Cleveland? I wish you could hear that better.
It's hilarious when you see the video. Hey man, is this
Cleveland? Hello Cleveland. Like you are Spinal Tap lady, your
spinal tap your phone your fake. Hey I have Oh speaking of the
pod, speaking of the pod, Joe did a big pod with POD save
America did a full episode, or as they call it a pod. And I
just thought this was ironic.
Unknown: We're going to invest $5 billion a year in cancer
research, we're eager to cure cancer. Mark my words,
Adam Curry: okay, just let's just mark those words.
John C. Dvorak: He promises a lot, he's gonna cure cancer.
Adam Curry: But wait,
Unknown: we're in a situation where as you know, I ran the
moonshot for the President. And what happened was, we found
significant breakthroughs. Everybody in the past, walked by
the mirror and looked in the mirror and saw a Nobel Prize
about to be one great scientist, but they didn't share much
information. They virtually shared information. Well, that's
all changing now is changing drastically. And we're going to
have to invest in dealing with the things that affect the
mental physical and, and environmental health of the
country. And we can do that
Adam Curry: it's gonna fix Alzheimer's, cure cancer. That's
what he's gonna fix it is fix Alzheimer's, we gonna fix it?
John C. Dvorak: What's the moonshot? Is he talking him? He
Adam Curry: was President Obama put him in charge of the Cancer
Moonshot. He was supposed to cure cancer the last time and he
didn't do it. What a liar.
John C. Dvorak: I really do not understand anyone who could what
the rationale is for voting for this guy ever.
Adam Curry: But okay, we have we have a number of classical
musicians who listen to and also produce the show high end
classical musicians who are on the circuit. Now the circuit of
course is pretty much dead. So they're not happy. So FUGU FUGU,
fu G FUBU. I don't know who FUBU is, but fugu is from the UK and
got all of his classical musician friends to send in
their tracks and did a whole new just a whole mix of a classic
song. And they put it on YouTube. I'll just play a little
bit of it just to show you what they are using their talents for
their God given talent. violinists vocalists just
beautiful music, and this is what they do.
Can you understand what they're singing? Yeah. Donald Trump is a
wanker. That's the only lyric and it goes on for six minutes
high end classical stuff. Donald Trump is a wanker. number to
number that may be four actually. I don't think so. I'm
rounding out this. This series of clips from me is a trailer
from a wanker it's a trailer from the plot against the
John C. Dvorak: way before he leaves that clip I do have a
clip Oh, okay. That kind of relates to this this is an ISO I
have this is a Trump first time Oh
Unknown: yes. First time I've ever pulled it out.
Adam Curry: No, yeah, he knows he knows what he's doing
John C. Dvorak: man. It goes in with the rest of these looks
slightly lewd
Adam Curry: now. Is that your end of show ISO candidates?
John C. Dvorak: No I got here's my ISO candidates here's I got
first of all I got something another somebody says you got to
listen to the latest Sofia with an F and see me posted I got
really nothing he said this wild crazy this is ISO
Adam Curry: wild crazy ooh that's pretty good.
John C. Dvorak: It's very good she's she's so precise with the
way she speaks it's pretty good it's not very good. It's pretty
good. I liked it. I liked it. It's the only thing was in her
in the shows you have any other candidate? Yeah, I do have one I
got Pelosi I got a Pelosi ISO. Oh
Adam Curry: to Nancy, here's what I have. Well, I'm sick
Unknown: and tired are smart guys. I thought
John C. Dvorak: that was a good one. Okay, that way, never mind.
Adam Curry: That is That's Joe Biden. That is best. Isn't it
John C. Dvorak: secret? think my Pelosi i So comes pretty close.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: So everyone started texting me. Oh my God, you've
got it. Oh my god. Oh my god you've got to see this
documentary and the plot against the president which I knew about
this I knew was coming out it is it is a true documentary. It has
all the players on the Republican side obviously, sadly
was Sebastian Gorka who I think whenever I hear that voice I
think credibility just drops by a couple points. Yes. Even
though I don't know the guy I don't know the guy and he's
probably superduper smart and same
John C. Dvorak: effect when I hear Digenova
Adam Curry: it's like he's just cut those guys out. I think Mike
Cernovich is a co producer on this. What was interesting the
plot against the President came out and there was an attack on
Netflix. So I grabbed the I grabbed the Roku remote and I do
the voice search nothing no title found like that. It talks
now the the Roku remote search I didn't know that. Nothing found
on that title. So okay, okay, go man. Maybe they haven't updated
by the way the Roku guy, super super Democratic Party,
promoter, liberal etc.
John C. Dvorak: Then I go in surprise me. Yeah, go
Adam Curry: into Netflix. Now we know who runs Netflix. And I
searched for the plot. I had to go down 16 spots before it
showed up in the search. Algo. It's like, Come on, guys. Now we
know yours. We get it already. We know. I just wanted to find
it. The Texas the woke tech. Yeah, the woke tech. So here's
the trailer. It's a very good documentary. There are things in
there that I didn't know. I was I had no idea that the minute
Flynn was still being interviewed by the FBI. And
people had figured out that it was being entrapped. They knew
it from that moment on,
Unknown: there was an illusion being created using the most
awesome tools and the greatest tricks that the American
intelligence community and learn to use against our enemies. Now
it was being deployed against the American people in our
president.
This is the biggest political scandal in modern history, which
makes Watergate look like a TIFF. The FBI director has no
credibility.
It's a laughed used to not trust the FBI. And now they love them.
This can happen to General Michael T. Flynn. Imagine what
they do to anybody who has a single strike against the 35
Russian
diplomats in the US expelled the
prosecution of General Flynn was in a pursuit of criminal
activity. It was a setup.
Flynn actually had details. So he was talking about going after
people's budgets. They were terrified,
immediate didn't start is neutral. Media hasn't been
neutral all its life. The
two faces of Hillary Clinton are coming out the fact through
WikiLeaks that she says one thing.
Oh, no, they work hand in glove with Kobe to try to delegitimize
Trump. They were not there to tell the truth.
A political dirty trick has been carried out by our intelligence
committee,
honestly, none of us really know sort of holistically what to
think
about this dossier. They went into Congress and they said,
There's nothing here doesn't matter. We'll keep going with
Beisa. We'll keep going on with the investigation. And more
importantly, we will go on TV day in and day out and lying to
the American people to their face. And nothing's going to
happen to us,
the nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread and
the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed
over to scum, or beholden to scum rushman stop.
Adam Curry: Our favorite Keith Olbermann did very good
documentary. I wish there was a counter documentary that I could
watch about the same topics. That was a counter document that
countered this narrative. A lot of it is public footage, C span
footage. It's all it's the politicians who you've seen
talking about this stuff as you really kind of never seen them
before. And it's the way they tell the story, man that was
that's bad stuff that went down there. It's really deceptive.
But only to the public I mean, for what was going on was within
the halls of Congress, etc. was just plain as day what they were
doing plain as day.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I think that's what you expressed in one
of the earlier clips. Where that's I think her name was
Sarah, the reporter that was getting into it with seltzer
water. Oh, yes. Yeah, exactly. Exact. She pretty much said the
same thing. Quick little
Adam Curry: Bo. Gonna do a quick little BLM noodle gun update.
Just to laugh for ourselves. Okay. With a minute
Unknown: I get to my pasta Glocks locked and loaded.
Adam Curry: So there is there's really only one noodle gun but I
think we have a noodle gun in the making, which is when some
virtue signal goes horribly wrong. Tampax who used to be my
client, Tampax, gosh. I mean, we came up with some fun stuff for
them back in the day. I've said it many times on the show, we
built tampax.com the website you visit more than once a month.
And I was very proud of the work. But now this is what's
happened with Tampax on Twitter. Here's here's their tweet. Fact.
Not all women have periods. Also a fact. Not all people with
periods are women. Let's celebrate the diversity of all
people who bleed. Brother. Yes, fifth time. Write it down.
That's 550 Brothers is what was five oh brothers. You just said
Oh, brother again. Oh. But it was warranted? Wait,
John C. Dvorak: I'll give you credit. I'll give you credit for
the one miss because it's possible, because I missed that
one. Did I miss another one? So now I'll count that as five.
Okay. So I'm not saying that anymore.
Adam Curry: today. But the noodle gun, that noodle Gun of
the week is the email from the CEO of Expensify.
John C. Dvorak: Ah, what an idiot. Oh, my
Adam Curry: Lord. I mean, it's too long to read in its
entirety. But it was a virtue signal. So loud and so biased
and so hateful and so wrong. Saying it sent to all his
customers. And Expensify is a very interesting company,
because they took a lot of a lot of the expense out of expense
reports and is dealing with a corporation. And these guys also
hold a lot of their personal private and information that
needs to be kept secure. And he sent out this note to I just
want to see if maybe, if I could get 10 million customers is a 10
million customers. Yep. And it was just a Trump hate fest. And
people are very put off by this and not just people who support
Trump or I would say the majority Oh,
John C. Dvorak: that was both sides of the aisle, because it's
very offensive to have something like this happened when they're
holding all your personal data.
Adam Curry: Yeah. It was just unbelievable. Unbelievable that
he did that. And then so I think he I think he got I think he got
the noodle gun.
John C. Dvorak: So that company is in San Francisco. And the guy
was on defending himself, you know where he's actually from,
but apparently, Oh,
Adam Curry: tell me it's like Houston or something. Portland.
Surprise, surprise.
John C. Dvorak: He's appeared in that Portland area. You're just
dumb. You don't. Your perception of reality is just skewed. Okay,
so yeah, I got a kick out of that.
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. Do you have anything before we take
our next break?
John C. Dvorak: Sure. Yeah. I want to play a funny kind of a
clip here. This was one of the old tech TV mavens Amber
McArthur now the colors of amber Mac, managed to get a discussion
with Trudeau. Oh, and she did put it on it's like a podcast
kind of thing. And so he or she is with Trudeau and Trudeau kind
of does a
Adam Curry: nice. Amber Mac. Is she Canada? Navia. Yeah. Okay,
that explains
John C. Dvorak: and she's talking to Trudeau and it's kind
of like the truth wants to come out. I got it. It's kind of
clear in this clip
Unknown: technology to give people agency that they can
actually do things to a nation app. Let's
start there as far as how that can help Canadians?
Well, we heard from the very beginning that different
countries were developing apps. And we were really interested in
how we can use technology to give people a sense of agency
that they can actually do things to affect the spread of COVID 19
around them. So there was attempts to use GPS and geo
locations and all sorts of different things and ended up
bringing privacy concerns and and really draining the
batteries in other countries apps. So we decided to take a
slightly different approach, putting privacy first and basic
and keeping it anonymous. But going on contacts. So the way it
works is if you actually you know end up close to someone for
15 minutes, and then a few days later, they test positive. You
might have been exposed without knowing it. The app will
anonymously let you know that you were exposed to some Want to
potentially expose to someone
Adam Curry: stop, the app will anonymously let you know that
some horse crap right there. And a few days later,
John C. Dvorak: yeah, you got to back it up from that point a
little bit because the punch lines coming, sorry.
Unknown: So the way it works is if you actually, you know, end
up close to someone for 15 minutes, and then a few days
later, they test positive, you might have been exposed without
knowing it, the app will anonymously let you know that
you were exposed to someone or potentially exposed to someone
who then tested positive, and maybe you should test positive
as well. But it's totally anonymized. There's no
identifiers with that within the app for you. And you won't know
who or when you might have been exposed, just that you might
have been exposed. And then it's your choice, whether or not you
put in the information, but we encourage people to but
everything about it is voluntary. Everything about it
is anonymous. And that's why it's getting such a high rating
for protecting privacy, and being a powerful tool.
Adam Curry: And I would like to make a comment for all of you
who are fresh new young faced podcasters if you're considering
doing a podcast, just know that even after 67 years since it was
first done. A Boeing always works. There's nothing wrong
with editing a bowing into a clip and I applaud you for that
John C. Dvorak for keeping this art alive. I'm going to show my
mood by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
John C. Dvorak: Boeing, Boeing selection is also part of the
process. We have a bunch of people to thank for show 1218
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Unknown: you've got karma
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Unknown: you spend deed deuced
I've got information man. New shit has come to light it's
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this will be a special 13th anniversary knighting and
Daming.
John C. Dvorak: Yikes. Yikes. Yeah, but where's
Adam Curry: your sword? You can Yikes. All you want.
John C. Dvorak: Okay. Oh, I'm waiting for your sword. You
know, I put it aside and I Oh, here it is. Okay. I got
Adam Curry: up on the podium. Heidi Schreiber, Paul Schreiber,
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is just like a potty and we got one coming up. Love the promos.
Unknown: Do you like spending time with honor informed
consumers of the five watching MSNBC
reading the New York Times
New York Times it's a liberal paper pitching about climate
change.
Suffer suffering. People are dying. No, no, no, no. No.
Then join us on Halloween. For the October Casey meetup
starting at 3:33pm. At knuckleheads. For more details,
click on over to meetup.com is like a party.
Adam Curry: get a kick out of the I like the meetup reports. I
think the promos are such an excellent use of talent. I
really like to
John C. Dvorak: keep them down to 15 seconds.
Adam Curry: 15. Yeah, that's pretty short. Just how long do
you think how long did this one feel to you?
John C. Dvorak: They will how long are they?
Adam Curry: Well, no, I'm asking you how long did it was you felt
it was the last one felt like it was 30 seconds. Okay, now then.
Good. But you'd want an even shorter than that.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's like, you know, Sunday, Sunday,
Sunday. You know those ads. Remember that more than 15
seconds. Okay.
Adam Curry: Here's a list of meetups coming up today.
Arlington. Virginia has a new location. So you're probably
already there. guapo is in Shirlington and you're hanging
out with William West pencil tucky. Now tomorrow we have also
a new new listing Denver roving meet up at six o'clock and John
and Taylor organizing that check of no agenda meetup.com For more
information on the 30th Friday, Bellingham Washington spooky
times 730 The twin sisters brewery on the 31st that'll be
next Saturday, El Dia de los Muertos flight double await Long
Beach 3:33pm Steelcraft city of Long Beach Leo Bravo is your
organizer. They've been doing this a couple times. Also on the
31st knuckleheads Halloween takeover Kansas City, Missouri.
Well, we heard this and the tiny mcgillis will be assembling in
Anchorage at 1pm. Alaska time. This is the pre election meet up
at fire tap Ale House on Sunday, November 1. Lane is organizing
that and also on Sunday, the first Philadelphia local 76 Get
out the hoax slavery for President 2020 6pm. Eastern that
the good dog bars are Scott Matt of Norristown organizing that.
And for those of you interested, there'll be a virtual election
meet up on November 3. No agenda social.com and there Jitsi
jujitsu Jitsi sit up, and there's plenty more on the list
for the month of November. Check it out at no agenda meetups.com
If you can't find one near you, all you got to do is start one
it's easy. And it's like a party no agenda meetups.com go hang
out with
Unknown: me you want to be like a potty is like
Adam Curry: I don't have a clip of this. But I did want to
mention since we haven't talked about it, that there's quite a
kerfuffle going on in the Catholic Church as the Pope has
come out and said hey, I think same sex marriage is fine we
should have something to something to figure that out.
And in gen one in January I think he published his his big
white paper whatever that thing is called. I call it the the
Pope's white paper. And there's a lot of people are very upset
by this. And I'm not liking the Pope. And I've got my eye on it
and thank you for keeping me up to speed and letting me know
what everybody thinks but I have not heard anything positive so
far about this.
John C. Dvorak: Well, there are a number of preset things great.
Adam Curry: Maybe they Yes, that is possible. That is possible.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I have no thoughts on that. I have
Adam Curry: I have one one, Trump news item that was, of
course not covered, really. This is now his third deal in the
Middle East peace process, just too. And the New York Times had
a great headline about this was like, Well, you know, yeah, he
put this together. But well, you know, since like, you're, you're
trying to get to talk about the Sudan deal. Yeah, the Sudan
deal.
John C. Dvorak: Before you talk about it, I actually have a clip
from that meeting was I have a clip too. Okay. Well, you play
your clip this I just want to mention that I'm what I'm, I'm
floating around. I'm on YouTube, picking up some some clips. And
there's this as a younger side, little sidebar says live. And
there, you know, there was Trump live at the Oval Office. And
he's, you know, on the phone with Netanyahu, the Sudanese guy
and somebody else. And they're doing this deal. And they're
making a big fuss. There's a bunch of reporters there, and
everyone knows what's going on. I'm surprised it was under
covered as much as it was, because it's kind of a big deal.
It's I'm watching this. So I go here to get lunch or something.
I come back, like about an hour and a half later. And I go look
on the side of the sidebar live. Trump's doing a rally in
Florida. So he obviously and I have to assume he does this sort
of thing. He ends this meeting, jumps on that chopper and either
go straight to Florida, or they drop them off and had done the
big jelly. This is the Big John. Yeah. He's like, this guy's does
this guy. This guy's got more energy than anyone I've ever
seen this president. He
Adam Curry: did three rallies yesterday. He is 3333. That is
and as we're going to bed last night, and they're not near each
other. No, no, no, it's, he's got to fly to each one. As we're
going to bed last night. And yesterday was a busy day for me,
including mo fax and just a whole bunch of stuff. And then
to the banker and it was late. And I'm getting ready for bed.
It's 1130, which is late, certainly for show night. And I
say how does Trump do it? He's 20 years older than me how he's
got to be jacked on on Benny's and burgers. I don't know what
he's taken. But I'd like to try it. It's, of course he doesn't
drink and never has had a drink. So maybe that's it. But holy
moly, that's impressive. Anyway, so here's some news that you
didn't hear
Unknown: the State of Israel and the Republic of Sudan, have
agreed to make peace. This is for many, many years. They've
been at odds to put it nicely and to normalize their
relations. This will be the third country where we're doing
this and we have many, many more coming. We have they're coming
at us hot and heavy in the coming weeks they will meet to
negotiate cooperation agreements you saw that happened with UAE
and Bahrain recently and agriculture, technology,
aviation, migration and other critical areas that the Sudanese
transitional government has demonstrated its commitment to
combating terrorism, creating market economy and developing
the democratic institution that is becoming today's deal builds
on those commitments and marks a pivotal turning point in Sudan's
history. This is, I would say one of the great days in the
history of Sudan. This is an incredible deal for Israel and
Sudan. For decades, Sudan has been at a state of war with
Israel, they have been in a state of war and boycotted
Israeli goods. There was no relationship whatsoever. Today's
peace agreement will enhance Israel's security and end
Sudan's long isolation from the world because of what was taking
place. It will unlock new opportunities for trade and
commerce, education and research and cooperation.
Adam Curry: This is what I like about what President Trump does
with these deals. Instead of you know, a week at camp days it and
going back and forth, and then he stands in the middle and that
he makes sure one shakes their hand. We've seen it with Reagan,
we saw it with Carter, we saw it with cost with everybody. He
puts together a deal, okay, you're gonna get landing rights
for your planes there. You're going to share this water he
does all based upon business and commerce. So what does the New
York Times say about this great deal? Well, it falls short,
because there was no agreement to open up embassies in each
other's country. That's that's their response. What a bunch of
dicks. It's really, it's unbelievable. He has such a
different approach to this stuff. That's his approach for
America too. I like what he said. Successful bring us
together. Maybe, but at least it's an approach that is simple
and fits on one cue card. Not a whole plan 1000s of pages of
stuff. stuff.
John C. Dvorak: Ya know, you want to just get the ball
rolling and out don't do the deals about moving the embassies
or moving embassies. There's got to do with us nothing. And yeah,
they like to do that. Thanks, guys. Now they do have one more
no agenda classic. I do have a couple more clips to play before
we wrap. Okay. But let's play this last classic this is I'm
not sure what this one is. But this is the no agenda 2009 This
was played on the show is an archive is the gay men clip.
Unknown: Let's take a look at our victim. Which group does
Dante look like the men on the left are the men on the right.
Men on the left? Oh, you have a sixth sense. by that? I mean,
you see gay people. You think don't he's gay? Yeah. So
do you. All the men on the left are gay. A new study in the
Journal of Experimental Psychology showed that most
people can identify gay men by face alone. That has to do with
the pattern of muscle tension in the face.
Adam Curry: Wow, we were on that in 2009 way before the algos
figured that out?
John C. Dvorak: Yes. And this was during this was from one of
the lawn orders shows they were grilling one of the one of the
lawyers and I think and then that's when they broke they just
dropped this little bomb in the middle of the show. And I
clipped in and we put it on the show and it was we've had we've
used this as a model for you know, you get you can look at
someone and not always but often often enough tell if they're gay
or not. And so what so what's the big deal?
Adam Curry: Yeah, but but that really
John C. Dvorak: that really broke 11 years ago.
Adam Curry: I mean, that's crazy. We were on we were on the
the gay face tip before the algos were
Unknown: Yeah
Adam Curry: I'm good work.
John C. Dvorak: Work good work off John and Adam work us. You
haven't I have some Trump speech stuff is kind of interesting.
And he's got this little gag he did Trump in Florida again
again, you heard about this
Adam Curry: again and changing the
John C. Dvorak: hat
Unknown: under my administration we built the greatest economy in
the history of the world and now we're doing it again so it's
called Make America Great Again again make America great again
again. So we're gonna change all the hacks you got to go out and
buy a new one. It's gonna have again come again exclamation.
heard this gag?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And that'll be coming out the hat.
I'm sure I can
Adam Curry: understand how your lip Joe friends are just
incensed about that stuff. Just I bet a Gozman I bet it just
makes them shiver.
John C. Dvorak: makes him do Yeah, they probably have a
shutter.
Adam Curry: Shutter shutter shutter. Yeah, that's it. That's
it.
John C. Dvorak: I got two more Trump clips before I have two
really good clips. Okay. You got any more stuff for the No, I'm
good. Okay, well, waiting for you out there with these. Here.
This is a Trump riffing on this. Middle class. Women love me that
you should love me, which everybody condemned him for. And
he's joking, mostly. And this is again, this is in Florida, where
he's really putting a good show. And this is Trump in Florida,
riffing number one,
Unknown: suburban women. You should love me, you know,
because somebody said, I'm not doing that well with suburban
women. I said, why? You know, last time I was supposed to be
doing terribly with women that I got 52% They said, What the hell
happened with Trump and women all of a sudden? Remember, they
said Trump did well with women. So now they go. So I kid I kid I
say, Please, please, suburban women, please, please love me
suburban women. I want you to love me. Because I got rid of
the regulation that's gonna destroy your neighborhood. You
don't want to have projects next to your house. You don't want to
have crime in the suburbs, etc. Right. So I go on 60 minutes and
she says Leslie Stahl that's another beauty. She goes, she
goes, you are begging, you are begging suburban women to love
you, weren't you? I said no, no, I was just having fun. We were
just having these people are sick, they are bad. They are
bad. But they want to decimate Florida seniors and seniors all
seniors. Okay. And by the way, what I've done for suburban
women, but suburban people, people that live in the suburbs,
you know, that's the that's really the dream. That's the
American dream. And you know, 30% of the people because people
say Oh, is that racist? 30% of the people living in the suburbs
are minority groups. Hispanic Americans, their lack of true
think of it. Asian American 30 31% are from minority groups.
For years, Joe Biden. vote to cut your Social Security he
wanted he wanted to cut it. He wanted to knock it out and
Medicare A fact which Joe is now falsely denied. You notice Oh, I
loved it yesterday the way he denied that. So does that mean
you want to get rid of fossil fuel? Joe? Yes, that's what it
means. No, thank you for this debate. Let's, let's end it
right there. But
Adam Curry: I wasn't gonna say oh, yeah, the the 60 Minutes
interview. I mean, I watched Of course, his his iPhone video is
unusable for the show. Unfortunately, the audio just
not good enough. Not good enough. But that's, that's a
trick. I've employed myself and you have to do it. When you go
on into a hostile situation like that.
John C. Dvorak: This was a dis has been done a number of times
on 60 minutes. They, and I can't remember the story. But this is
during the Reagan administration. Somebody had
pulled a stunt, they brought somebody on Madison, they, they
edited the whole thing down and I was told a story by somebody
that was in that administration, actually. And they were gonna
run this really damning story because it was all edited down.
And then they said, We made a copy of the original thing, and
we're gonna roll this out if you roll out that, and they pulled
the whole thing.
Adam Curry: Trump just rolled it out with
John C. Dvorak: a different approach.
Adam Curry: Like, hey, I don't like yo
John C. Dvorak: quid pro quos with Trump. Roll it out screw.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: But also in Megyn Kelly had a pretty good
breakdown of that of that video, which is worth listening to.
She's a podcaster.
John C. Dvorak: I like the second part of this riffing. I
don't know what's on it. But there's something on here,
right? That,
Unknown: by the way, got treated fairly, I thought, very fairly
by the anchor. I thought, right, Kristen, I was surprised. She's
been a little bit rough and me over the years. I was surprised
but her you know, network has been crazy. NBC, Comcast, CLN
Comcast. But I thought Kristen did a very good job yesterday.
Some people said she interrupted me much more than she
interrupted sleepy, Joe. But that's because he didn't have
that much to say. She was there. I said it during the show. I
said, I think you've handled it very professionally. It's not
easy. said today I want to show you Joe Biden his own words. The
video was created by Bernie Sanders crazy Bernie. You know,
Bernie is the single greatest loser the way he loses. He gets
sportsmanship of the year. Four years ago is quite terrible.
What they did to him this year was that he just goes back to
Congress and talks. He's crazy. Bernie, a lot of his people are
going to come with us because you know what? They love our
trade policy. Because he like me understands how badly we've been
taken advantage of by other countries, including our allies.
By the way. The video I'm about to play was created by frizzy
Bernie earlier this year to expose Joe Biden's atrocious
record and his egregious lies. Go ahead. Play it Mr. DeMille.
John C. Dvorak: Okay, so he he started this with his Erie
Pennsylvania rally. And I have a copy of that where he started to
use multimedia and I am stunned this is basically clips. And he
started with the malt with the Erie one. Most of these aren't
don't go well when they played on C span because they don't
make them well. But the one in Erie, where he plays not this
particular clip, he plays the Biden talking about fossil fuels
clip. I do have it if you want to. Yeah, of course you're using
multimedia and this is where he first does it. Then this where
he whips it out. He says I hadn't done sorry. No, you can
just let it go. Yeah,
Unknown: specifically for the people of Erie because you guys
like energy, you like being energy independent. Do you like
that energy because we don't need all these faraway lands and
everything else we're now energy independent. And we're gonna
keep it that way. Take a look at this clip. We had it made up and
I think you'll like first time I've ever done this right first.
Go ahead wherever it is put it
up. Would there be any place for fossil fuels including coal and
fracking in a Biden administration?
No, we would we would work it out we would make sure it's
eliminated and no more subsidies for either one of those I
guarantee we're gonna end fossil fuel No more no no fracking. I
gradually move away from fracking.
And I think it's critically important on day one that we end
any fossil fuel leases on public lands
they want to do the same thing I want to do they want to phase
out fossil fuels and we're gonna phase out fossil yes, no
question. I'm in favor of banning fracking. But
what we don't show is his book current version. Oh, yes, we'll
have fracking and the fake news. Don't do anything about it. They
don't even talk to him about it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was a low light during the debate. Put it
on your website. Okay, I'll put it on my website and it's to
seven year old girl Girl girls guys bitching about their
websites Give me a break.
Unknown: That was said, put it on your website. I will put it
on my website
John C. Dvorak: is pretty old. I have errors embarrassing. The
13th anniversary show, okay. Now, we've talked about this
before. There's guys like Ray McGovern, the ex CIA guy.
They've been banished from democracy now and all their
progressives, these are progressives, people I'm talking
about we have Stephen Cohen who now recently die without being
disgusting, though to discuss Russia much because he's
blackballed from all the progressive shows that Amy
Goodman used to have these people on all the time and one
of the people she used to have on all the time and a lot of
other people. CNN would have this guy on MSNBC would have
this guy on and that's Glenn Greenwald.
Adam Curry: Oh, is this the rant he did the other day? Yeah,
yeah, this is good. This is very good. That's very good. So
John C. Dvorak: Glenn Greenwald a progressive that came from
salon that's where he kind of got his
Adam Curry: super lefty
John C. Dvorak: super lefties left is a gets, can't get a word
in on any of these cuz he's like, like my Maotai EB who's
extremely progressive. And my Mattei EVs writings of late and
all of his essays that he's been coming out with have been like,
what's wrong with the media? These people won't, you know,
they won't publish me. They won't talk to anybody who's
actually a journalist. They just have all this propaganda.
They're their propaganda arms. So it seems to me you really got
to you got to swallow your pride when you're if you're Glenn
Greenwald, because he ends up showing up on Tucker Carlson,
Tucker. We'll have him on tour even though even though Amy
won't have him on she'll have on some shills instead in a
dishonest report that we play at the beginning of the show. So
let's listen to Tucker and Greenwald. And there's two
parters. One is just kind of an intro and the second one is the
one you're talking about, which is his rant is worth listening
to.
Unknown: Glenn Greenwald is the co founder of the intercept.
We're happy to have him on tonight. Glenn, thanks for
coming on. I've seen a fair bit of the material on this laptop.
And the response by the media and particularly by the so
called the intel community strikes me as much more
threatening to America than anything on this laptop. Do you
think that's an appropriate response to what we're watching?
I couldn't agree more Tucker. First of all, Adam Schiff is
seriously the most pathological liar. In all American politics
that I've seen in all of my time covering politics and
journalism. He just fabricate and accusations at the drop of a
hat the way that other people change underwear, he is simply
lying. When he just assert over and over that the Russians or
the Kremlin are behind this story. He has no idea whether or
not that's true, there's no evidence to support it. And what
makes it so much worse, if the reason the Biden's aren't
answering basic questions about this story. Basic questions like
did Hunter Biden drop that laptop off at that repair shop?
Are the emails authentic? Do you deny that they argue claim any
have been altered? Or any of them for Pratt fabricated? Did
you in fact meet with Burisma executives? Have you seen those
deaths? The reason that they don't answer any questions is
because the media has signaled that they don't have to that
journalists will be attacked and vilified simply for asking
Adam Curry: a point of production. We production note,
I really liked the look of grin grin Greenwald Glenn Greenwald's
microphone. I'd like to know what it is because it looks
great. But a over modulates on it. I'd like to help him with
that. But it looks kind of an old timey microphone only matte
black. Have you noticed this?
John C. Dvorak: Look, I think it might be a sure. Take a look at
it looks good.
Adam Curry: Maybe when he when he gets on the rant, it's just
you know, he needs to fix that thing.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Well, he does his mic techniques
are no good. Yeah. That was the end of the whole clip.
Adam Curry: That was the end of clip one.
John C. Dvorak: Okay, well, here we go. This is where Tucker
brings in. brings it up a notch and Greenwald just goes off.
Unknown: What do you make of the role of the so called the intel
community unnamed sources from FBI or CIA or NSA in this
response to the story?
The whole point of the intelligence community since the
end of World War Two was that whatever propaganda the CIA
produces, whatever it is, disinformation campaigns they
engage Jen were never supposed to be directed domestically.
That was the point of the NSA. That's right CIA and all of
those intelligence communities and what we've seen since 2016.
Going back to the 2016 campaign, is incessant involvement in US
domestic politics, working with journalists to disseminate
information purely for partisan ends. And if you want to talk
about things like violating norms, and dangerous to
democracy, what is more dangerous than allowing the CIA
constantly to be to manipulating our politics by making cover for
the Biden campaign by claiming anonymously, that the Russians
are behind the story, and therefore you want to disregard
it, even if the word even if the Russians were behind the story?
Why does that relieving aid the responsibility of journalists to
evaluate these emails and to examine whether or not Joe Biden
actually engaged in misconduct, but the much bigger point is the
way that this information is being disseminated is a union of
journalists who have decided that their only goal is to
defend Joe Biden and elected president united states working
with the CIA and the FBI and the NSA, not to manipulate our
adversaries or foreign governments, but to manipulate
the American people for their own ends? It's been going on for
four straight years now. And there's no sign of it stopping
anytime soon.
It's terrifying. And I can't believe we're putting up this I
can't believe the administration is putting up with this. They're
supposed to be in charge of these agencies. This is we're
gonna have to live with the consequences of this for
generations. And it's very upsetting. And I appreciate the
clarity you have on this. Glenn Greenwald. Thank you.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Except, it's not been going on for four
years, it's been going on for at least 13. Because that's how
long we've been looking at this bullcrap. And Glenn Greenwald
has been pretty, pretty straight up throughout all those 13 years
that we've had stuff from him, but no matter who he was talking
about. So will, will the will this election making a
difference? Will the media ever change? will we will we see an
uprising? Will we see, we'll just cut off? I know, I was just
I was talking to cover so you didn't miss anything? Will we
sign
John C. Dvorak: her at the end of the clip? And that's when I
get cut off? Will we
Adam Curry: see a change in the public's attitude towards media,
regardless of who wins the presidential election? Or will
it make a difference? Who wins your thoughts? John C. Dvorak.
John C. Dvorak: I think I think that media is just digging a
grave for itself. But how is real media? I'm
Adam Curry: talking Oh, yeah, no, of course, mainstream
mainstream.
John C. Dvorak: We're talking about the New York Times is
really is not trusted as much as it used to be. I mean, it's not
to paper record by any means. Washington Post has always been
kind of a stooge for for the certain government, aspects of
the government. These are all supporting just Democrats
constantly. You take a look at people like you know, support,
and they'll boost things like the Lincoln project, supposedly
a bunch of ex Republicans, if you look at the list of Lincoln
project, recommendations for various offices, besides the
president, all Democrats, so it's just a scam. If it wasn't
for podcasters and alternative real alternative media, not fake
alternative media, and by that I mean PBS you know, it's which is
underwriters and 10 producers and all the rest of it, but real
alternative media luckily got enough of a foothold. That I
think it's making a difference. We'll see. Exactly how
Adam Curry: we'll do it for our 30th anniversary show. Thank you
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Did a nice little job there. And we'd love to see you for our
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John C. Dvorak: And for from Northern Silicon Valley, I do
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adios mofos and congratulation, John
John C. Dvorak: and congrats to
Adam Curry: you. All right, and adios
John C. Dvorak: For me is no successfully tactful media
analysis and a little bit of unknown news that died there
ever heard about this remarkable
Unknown: from around the world
Adam Curry: he has influences in his background that are going to
push him towards not making this happen to risk management. It
has nothing to do with safety. This is just theater parts just
service animals. In the stroller relief from scrolling, the
smallest thing triggers people process cognitive dissonance
smartphones with cameras is an international health crisis.
Unknown: Regardless of dimension of your life
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the original money honey and Fox Business News Maria Bartiromo?
Unknown: Well I do think it's extraordinary that there seems
to be this cover off underway.
John C. Dvorak: She's so stunned I think she's genuinely
surprised by this. This is what stuns me. She is stuck isn't
have a good slot. She is stuck over on Fox Business.
Adam Curry: The original money honey and Fox Business News
Maria Bartiromo, the original money honey and Fox Business
News Maria Bartiromo
Unknown: the media doesn't want to touch it it's absolutely
extraordinary to me
John C. Dvorak: SCS bitch
Adam Curry: assess the St. Vincent turned me on to the show
assess the SP to turn me on to the show
John C. Dvorak: she's covering all the bases with these stories
and she's got to have a nervous breakdown because nobody is
paying any attention to her
Adam Curry: she can take solace in knowing the producer of
houses cars listen to
John C. Dvorak: Gary going Yes
Unknown: Why is there no accountability he's an elected
official How does he come out on the news media and say all these
things if it's not
true director
John C. Dvorak: SES bitch
Unknown: better build back better better, better better
better better build back better
back better back build back better because we can't just go
back to the way things were before we have to go
back better
what's build back better back better house back better let's
build back better I want to know well, I don't understand. No you
don't get it. Get it? I'm still in the glitch phase. I even know
what blips are about
so you keep hearing that weird
and five is in your face. Say if you're new from that kind of
place well I've got a solution is not far left or old right.
You need it deconstruct. These guys are out on the radio it's
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Counting the train
just like to hang.
The truth is
John C. Dvorak: we show up to meet up with all the knights in
the morning Josh shifts to see boots on the ground feet in the
air subs in the water all the days and nights in the morning
Adam Curry: in the morning to our trolls in the literal room
Unknown: the radio always remember it's no agenda. It's no
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