Adam Curry: My pronouns are Z zoom and Zeus plays
Unknown: Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: August 2 2020 This is your award winning
combination media assassination episode 1265.
Unknown: This is no agenda.
Adam Curry: Protesting peacefully and broadcasting live
from opportunity's own 33 Here in the frontier of Austin, Texas
capital of the drone Star State. In the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry.
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where
everybody is soapy, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: We're also be together. That's us on a Sunday.
It's a soapy Sunday. No agenda. And I'm sort of I've survived. I
survived on Tifa the riots, snipers on the roof in downtown
Austin Boogaloo boys. This is what we heard yesterday. Oh, if
you live downtown of keep your eyes open looks like honestly.
fosu Ashanti fires trying to put snipers on rooftops. And the
Boogaloo boys are assembling near i 35. And
John C. Dvorak: oh, man, to like World War Three right there in
the town. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So no, zero evidence of any anti fog. There were
probably, I'd say about 10. All combined throughout the evening
groups of predominantly white kids. In their Saturday night go
out and party dress, many of them not not a lot in black and
helmets. And they were kind of fumbling around and then they'd
stand in the street and they blocked the traffic and oh, boy,
so horrible. There's no fight.
John C. Dvorak: That's not the way Mimi tells it. Really calls
she calls me up and says, Hey, what the hell's going on in
Austin? It's just some guy. shot some guy goes up to his cars,
brandishes an AK 47 The guy guns him down. Yeah, but that was
that was so last week. And I said to her what that was last
week. And she says no, no, it happened again, I guess. No, no.
I said, Really? Check the date on the article. It was a CNN
story dated yesterday.
Adam Curry: Really? Ah, well,
John C. Dvorak: we'll look at okay. And she says she's
confused. She I said, Well, okay, let's look up the guy's
name. Who is the shooter? Who is the guy got shot? She looks up
the names. I said, now put that in and see what happened. And
she says, Oh, yeah, it's the same. Same story. Only they just
changed the dateline.
Adam Curry: Unbelievable. Oh, no, actually very believable.
What am I saying? So yeah, what it wasn't bad at all there was
there was no problem. And when the kids were kids, I'm gonna
just say kids when they were blocking the street, you know,
this is Austin PD. We're not going to come there and fight
you. We're going to trot in on our 1200 pound horses and nudge
you aside. And it's such a great tool for this type of protest.
Because, look, they're on the street, get off the street, you
don't want the kids screaming in the cops faces at eye level. So
you bring in the horse, the kids, they have, of course, the
horse. Of course, the horse, of course is very intimidating. But
it's like you're being Chris cruelty to animals, man, you
can't be doing that with a horse. So they brain freeze,
they can't figure out what to do is like, Oh, it's a horse. If
the if the horse, it's a horse, it's a horse, the horse doesn't
know any better. So they just kind of disperse and go off to
the side. Very effective. That's the way that's the way to handle
them with the horse. They don't know what to do it even better.
If you have a horse, and you have a emotional support goat on
the team. The kids will run away right immediately.
Unknown: Well, we don't
John C. Dvorak: have anything like that going on around here.
Adam Curry: I did look up by the way, the legal definition of
peaceably assemble. Because everyone's talking about we got
the right to protest peacefully. But the Constitution actually
uses a different word.
Unknown: It's peaceably
Adam Curry: and peaceably is not that you're just walking around
in, you know, via nice and, and shouting stuff. No. The
tranquillity enjoyed by a political society internally by
the good order which reigns among its members and externally
by the good understanding it has with all other nations. In other
words, not merely a state of response and security, status, a
sense of state and security, in a technical sense, applied to
the internal regulations of the nation. In other words, the way
I read this complicated definition is, if you're
protesting peaceably that would mean that I feel calm and at
peace with I'm not worried about you.
It's a small distinction, but I think words matter.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I think you should take it up with the
Times editorial board.
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. I'll get right on that.
Unknown: Cars by the way. No bonus. No.
John C. Dvorak: Okay. Bonuses are
Adam Curry: rare nowadays and stable as she goes everybody
stable as she goes. You know, we had the eight car, Zephyr plus
the two bonus cars Bitcoin went to $12,000. It was crazy. Maybe
it's a dictator.
John C. Dvorak: Maybe it's time. I don't know who goes to seven
cars eight short. Exactly, exactly.
Adam Curry: All right, where do you want to start? Do you have
any COVID stuff that we should talk about? Just to? I don't
think there's a lot of super new stuff.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I do have the rundowns which, here's a
couple A's. This will be kind of introduce kind of COVID related
because it's mostly about COVID Because it's about Trump.
Adam Curry: Yes, as it goes.
John C. Dvorak: But let's take a look at well first of all, let's
do this little thing so we can get a little propaganda in there
by playing an Amy Goodman clip. Just listen to the way they do
play this one up this COVID in the Confederate States
Unknown: last Coronavirus death toll has topped 150,000
Wednesday the highest of any nation by far. The hardest hit
states per capita are Florida, Louisiana, Arizona, Mississippi,
Alabama, Nevada, South Carolina, Texas, Idaho, Tennessee and
Georgia. A list that includes all seven of the original
Confederate states.
Adam Curry: Thanks, Amy. Am I now just automatically a racist
for just living here? Am I had horrible conditions? Yes. That's
pretty lame, man.
John C. Dvorak: What do you expect? Trotskyites over there
at that place? That's all right. So this is an interesting
comparison. In contrast, CBS has gotten to the point where
they're teaser which is the first 145 to two minutes at the
beginning of the show, which wraps up the show in advance so
smart money can just listen to that know what the news is about
and stop listening. Right and
Adam Curry: yes, we played these were the whole news. Every story
they do 30 seconds. You pretty much don't have to watch after
that. We've heard these these are good.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, this is what this is the one well,
here's what's happening at CVS with Nora. Let's first play the
CBS teasers Nora
Unknown: and from the CDC a married 20,000 more deaths in
the next three weeks. And Florida in the middle of a
pandemic now great. Now brace tonight the stars going
Adam Curry: on here. That's that's your clip doing doing
weird stuff. Did you mean
John C. Dvorak: I'll tell you what happened there. I'm
surprised it's on there. When I would, when I'm queuing up a
clip, when I'm recording it I have sometimes I don't have the
right the right beginning. So I clip it and clip it and and what
happens is you get that Herky jerky and I usually erase that.
Okay, for some reason I got on a clip here. They're Herky jerky
part of the editing process. And
Adam Curry: you had something yes something to say to me about
soapy but Herky jerky is ok.
John C. Dvorak: Herky jerky.
Adam Curry: Please give me a break. Totally new
Unknown: prediction from the CDC. America could see 20,000
more deaths in the next three weeks. And Florida in the middle
of a pandemic now bracing for a hurricane. Florida's governor
declaring a state of emergency shutting down COVID testing
sites. The president on the ground there tonight greeting a
crowd of supporters without masks. Says hurricane Issa yes
pounds the Caribbean with devastating floods and is now
threatening major cities along the east coast. deadline looming
more than 25 million Americans will lose critical unemployment
aid at midnight. As Congress goes home for the weekend
without reaching a deal. unfounded attacks on mail and
voting. The President continues to undermine the long standing
practice of voting by mail. growing concerns that the US
Postal Service led by one of President Trump's biggest donors
is slowing mail service
is their mail is backing up is getting delayed. The
Democrats tonight accused President Trump of undermining
democracy. Bitcoin bust tonight Florida authorities arrest the
mastermind behind that Twitter attack of 130 accounts including
President Obama, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. Turns out he's 17
years old. And tonight CBS is Steve Hartman is on the road
with a local businessman who's helping send 75 kids to college.
Well, honey,
Adam Curry: bring over the Ben and Jerry's it's gonna be a
great show with Nora You
Unknown: know, somebody's
John C. Dvorak: been doing given immediate training to her. So
she's now when she's her last word in a sentence or a phrase
is always stretched. Yeah, she's
Adam Curry: stretching so the the visuals are overlap. It's
kind of it's a cool trick if you do it well.
John C. Dvorak: Well, she's not doing it well.
Adam Curry: And by the way, thanks to Dame Jenna for what a
fantastic animated no agenda with Nora and Bill Gates that
came out. Yes, that
John C. Dvorak: was a very good one of your top 10. There was
definitely good love it a lot. So Norris, you know, initially
now the way they've structured the show. She does that rundown.
That's 145. And she does. So she starts do they go to you know,
they take the break, start the show. She starts off, basically
does the same thing again. No. Well, you just heard what you
heard, right. Yeah. Now let's listen to this is the first part
of the show, which is the woods call this clip is. CBS
continued. This is the Who did she she talks about everything
she talked about. She's like, it's like the old thing. They
always tell you when you're deposed. They supposedly tell
you this when you're a public speaker, and people have
different variations of it, which is tell them what you're
going to tell them, then tell them then tell them what you
told them and then go home. Wait a minute.
Adam Curry: That's exactly what Dr. Burks does. He follows that
formula.
John C. Dvorak: That formula is very common amongst amateurs,
public speakers. Not that it's not important to tell people. If
you listen to the pros tell you how to do a specious vote.
You're supposed to tell them Can I tell them? You're supposed to
tell them why they're there? Yeah, but anyway, let's go with
this. The Dow user would you heard that? Here's 54 seconds
the first 54 seconds of the shows the same thing,
Unknown: kind of begin this Friday night with what the World
Health Organization is calling a once in a century health crisis,
the effects of which we will feel for decades to come. The
news is especially alarming as tonight this devastating
prediction from the CDC. The virus will claim 20,000 more
lives in the next three weeks. And we want to zero in on
Florida, which shattered its single day death toll record for
the fourth straight day. And on top of that the state is now
facing a possible hurricane. Hurricane east as is now
pounding parts of the Caribbean, leading to mudslides in Puerto
Rico, Florida's governor declaring a state of emergency
for parts of his state officials there are scrambling to shut
down beaches and parks along with most state outdoor COVID
testing sites. The President was also in Florida today holding a
mini rally there at the airport, though few were seen wearing
masks. Basically
Adam Curry: the same report, yeah. Oh, she
John C. Dvorak: added a couple of sections, she added some
detail. So you're gonna do a teaser. That's the basics. And
then they're going to do the same stuff only with a couple of
extra details. Not a lot. By the way, just one or two feels a bit
like filler. Old news does the whole half hour goes that way
until they get this Hartman piece which is which is the
smiley feelgood piece which all the news. All the three networks
are using. They're putting that at the end. And so then So Nora
can leave the show with a big smile on her face, too. This is
always a cutesy story. Yeah.
Adam Curry: It sounds to me like she was filling up and that's
filler, what they're doing there. They just got nothing to
do.
John C. Dvorak: And I think there's some truth to that,
because they won't cover the yellow vests are still in play.
Yeah, they won't cover anything overseas. It has to be somehow
just got to be some Trump angle, more Republican angles, what it
really amounts to Yeah. Is he talking about Florida? You're
talking about a Republican governor? Yeah. And Confederate
states and this whole thing that Amy did, it's just yeah, they're
given bad news. The quality of these broadcasts is that they
have to be losing viewership.
Adam Curry: I'm sure they're losing quite a bit of
viewership. I think the whole world is crumbling. The media,
the broadcast media world, of course, we've got this always
going to be a roll. But look at the message. It's not really
working as a messaging system anymore. Trump has completely
circumvented that and everyone kind of gets it and look at the
podcast landscape. So yeah, I mean, we know they're hurting
people are cutting cords. There's too many channels, the
the cable affiliate fees are in play. Yeah, I know. It's not
tomorrow, but maybe in 20 years. It's definitely on the decline.
John C. Dvorak: But it's on the decline. That's the main thing,
no doubt about it. The newspapers were on the decline
starting in the 50s. Yeah. Because of TV news. And they,
they're still in decline, but it's been like 50 years later.
70 years later, even, but they're on the decline. They're
really not the same as the If you look at a newspaper if he
ever is you have a college or university nearby and they have
a newspaper room that actually has old newspapers or
microfiche. Yeah. Go look at the newspapers from the 50s. Dance
with information.
Adam Curry: Scan. Of course. Well, that was it. Now the
internet is dense with horse manure.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, that's what we do different.
Adam Curry: We sort through it professionally. That's what we
do. I wanted to that's all I got for COVID I have just a couple
of things. I
John C. Dvorak: feel bad about it, because I know that COVID
carries the day. It does,
Adam Curry: but it's all it's still the same news. You know,
we're still still waiting for the, for the results of the
trials. Actually, you had a there was an updated stat from
the CDC that one of our producers shared during the an
updated study revealed 45% This is not surprising, but it's just
good to have the most updated numbers. 45% of all, all United
States Coronavirus deaths were in nursing homes. So that 73,733
There's got to be something with that number deaths in US nursing
homes. We're very very worried about a lot of things but I
think we should get our kids back to school and and make
teachers essential personnel. So they'll be forced to do it. Like
everyone at the grocery store.
Like everyone at the gas station.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, they're not dropping like flies at the
grocery store at
Adam Curry: all. Oh, it wasn't but yeah,
John C. Dvorak: the nursing homes that's the big data
scandal is that that's where the majority of these deaths and
they're not going to talk about it and lousy facilities poor
care. Especially the slip is sick back in there to make
everybody sick if you can, which Cuomo did a beautiful job of
boudoir well done.
Adam Curry: I wanted to share this village voice which I think
is gone now. Isn't it the New York Village Voice that close
was an online maybe still in pretty
John C. Dvorak: much it's a good question. I thought it was all I
thought it was gone personally.
Adam Curry: Michael Musto. I mean, when in the 80s this was
when I when I lived in Midtown, and Hell's Kitchen actually gave
to the Village Voice you read it. That's what was it was the
heartbeat of the city. And it was a messy city. And this is an
article from May 31 1988, when we were kind of in the middle of
of the AIDS crisis. And just to give you an idea, this is an
open letter to Dr. Anthony Fauci, 1988. In the millage
voice. I've been screaming at the National Institutes of
Health since I first visited your animal house of horrors in
1984. I called you monsters then and I called you idiots in my
play The Normal Heart. And now I call you murderers. You're
responsible for supervising all government funded AIDS treatment
research programs, in the name of right, you make decisions
that cost the lives of others, I call it murder. And this letter
is scathing, about how much money was spent with only $374
million back in the day 1984. That was a lot more money than
it is today. And I think it's just good for everyone to be
reminded a lot of our producers and people out there listening
weren't alive when this took place. But it was the same type
of thing. The only thing that was different was, oh, you're
not gay, you don't have to worry about it. But they went through
the whole vaccines, the trials, and then they wound up
eventually finding this cancer drug that had been rejected AZT,
and that wound up killing a lot of people as they were on the
treatment. It was a crazy time. It's all Fauci and he got away
with that. He got away. There's no
John C. Dvorak: great credit to carry to the Village Voice cease
publication in 2017.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, I put this. This is I think it's a
reprint in, in the show notes, and a show notes.com. It's very
interesting to read. The guy has a track record of failure, in
particular with vaccines.
John C. Dvorak: He's not a failure. He's got it. He's a
track record of soaking at the public and the government for
lots of money. There you go. This is not not a failure in
his, in his bank accounts mind.
Adam Curry: Speaking of such another great article, it's a
Sunday so people may want to may want to go read a little bit in
what is this epsilon theory, have no idea what it is, but
it's a rundown of the insider trading that took place at
Kodak. The fourth before the President announced Holy crap.
They're peep there are guys who made $400 million in stock
increase.
John C. Dvorak: Well, they shouldn't be busted. They
shouldn't be.
Adam Curry: I mean, that's it's all like the marketing guy. Oh,
yeah, I really believe in the company. That's why I bought a
whole bunch of stock in
John C. Dvorak: $2 from a bankrupt company.
Adam Curry: I still like the idea of taking a company that
does something with chemicals and turning it into a hydroxy
Chloroquine processing plant. That's a pretty funny idea. Oh,
wait, I have that. That's what I need to talk about. Here we go.
hydroxy. The people are wrapping this up in some way. As the you
recall the Ohio Board of Medicine, I think of Board of
pharmacists. They had restricted the sale. Oh, yeah. They banned
it. They think, well, they banned it unless it was
prescribed for some use for malaria every year or lupus.
Exactly. That has been overturned, that has not
overturned they withdrew it. They changed their
John C. Dvorak: stance to that under democracy. Now, news
report.
Adam Curry: You didn't Oh, well, that's weird. Even when the FDA
commissioner was being interviewed on the Today Show,
there was no mention of the term back. I don't think let's
listen.
Unknown: Before I let you go. I have to ask you about
hydroxychloroquine. It's in the news once again, the President
retweeted a video promoting it. He even said I took it for a 14
day period. And I'm here, I don't think you lose anything by
doing it. The Vice President said yesterday, many Americans
have had positive experiences with hydrochloric when the FDA
actually the authors know what she's talking abroad because it
wasn't effective. And it wasn't safe. It was potentially
dangerous. So once and for all, should people be taking
hydrochloric hydroxychloroquine.
John C. Dvorak: So just to be clear, we revoked an EUA and
emergency use authorization at the request of another
government agency BARDA, and this was for a drug that was
authorized for use in sick hospitalized patients. We had
data that when this drug was combined with others, there were
some risks associated with that. But the decision that the
question you're asking me, is a decision between a doctor and a
patient, a doctor and a patient needs to assess the data that's
out there. FDA does not regulate the practice of medicine, and
that in the privacy of the doctor patient relationship is
where that decision should be made.
Are you concerned at all about misinformation about this drug
in particular?
I am five, what I'm concerned about is that FDA provide all
the information about the side effects, the potential side
effects, as well as the efficacy as you know, these drugs have
been approved for number of years for other indications by
the FDA. We're know, we know that they're safe in those
settings. But we want to make sure that the rights information
is out to providers so that they can make this decision with
patients.
Adam Curry: Yes. Okay. Sure. So, I think that message is kind of
clear. But you can you can see, and you can feel the the fear in
the medical community, you know, it's like the pharmacists are
getting into making political decisions that and something
completely new, which even FDA commissioner says well as
between the patient, the doctor, whatever you want to do, if you
want to pee on straw to see if you're pregnant, you know,
that's between you and your doctor, whatever you guys
decide. I don't know why I came up with that example. I don't
know where that came from. Very strange.
Sorry about that.
John C. Dvorak: You've actually gone through.
Adam Curry: I plead the fifth. Meanwhile, someone did catch up
with Dr. Stella Immanuel in Dallas. She's the she's the
crazy woman who was saying there's a cure, it's
hydroxychloroquine was zinc and Zephyr, my son. Oh, the crazy
lady.
John C. Dvorak: And wait, hold on and say you got to make sure
that when they talk about her, they always talk about her alien
thesis about demon seed genes. Yeah, all this others. Yep, all
are weird crap on her. But meanwhile, anyone else can say
whatever they want.
Adam Curry: And I looked at some of her videos, what she says she
has an office in a strip mall and next to her church, and
she's, she preaches at that church. And it's very, to me,
it's kind of a Caribbean vibe, you know. And the problem with
it is, Lulu could be although she puts she talks about Jesus
and God. The problem is, and it's very typical for this and
it looks like a cable access program. It kind of sounds like
this
so it's really not like a Biden. It's very useful for clipping.
But, you know, the mainstream goes after her and said, Aren't
you afraid? Aren't you afraid about the Texas Medical Board?
They'll take away your license. And that's what it comes down
to. Threatening doctors have with their license because they
make this decision that is not mainstream. And in a here's 30
seconds of example of this badgering
Unknown: run afoul of your medical license if you start
doing that, aren't you?
Adam Curry: My medical license? Yeah, yeah. So you think that I
should defend my Mac and over people dying? Over people dying?
Aren't you worried about losing it losing what? Your medical
license
Unknown: really let him become after that people die? Because
I'm scared of it. And why should people die? Oh, because I'm
scared of Anthony Fauci actually let people die because I'm
scared of who? I'm not gonna have any of them. I'm not gonna
let people die. And if they come after me, it's gonna be on.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes, it's gonna be I love her. I love her
conviction.
John C. Dvorak: If you can understand her
Adam Curry: while she says I'm not gonna let people die. Take
my license. I'm like a
John C. Dvorak: douche bag news guy I local.
Adam Curry: Like is threatened. Yeah. Well, and also how we
approached her, like you're a nut job. So what do you mean?
No, no, no risk, zero respect.
John C. Dvorak: Does she have a medical degree or not? Yes, he
does. He does have a medical degree. Well, then he should be
low. What is he doing is doing. He's doing remote reports or
some local affiliate of some of the one of the networks or
worse, and this and he's a big shot,
Adam Curry: kind of. He's a big shot in Dallas. I guess. And so
the only other thing that we haven't talked about? Oh, yeah.
Is the there's one other it's it's bubbling under I think the
President talked about it a couple of times is the what is
this other treatment? It's the I don't know much about it. Hold
on. It's antibodies, but it has Oh, the McLaren No. Interferon
interferon has come up in the conversation really well, that
was used for AIDS. So that makes sense. The AIDS was somehow
involved in this or the HIV is a part of this board some gene as
a part of the virus I believe.
John C. Dvorak: Don't you remember HIV as a big element
stuck in the middle of this Corona thing and it was
developed in the lab suppose the as an alternative way of
delivering it in HIV vaccine because it's impossible to stop
HIV pure into sneaking into cells you have to use this
Coronavirus. This is four months ago we were talking about this
Adam Curry: does sound from an HIV element right does sound
familiar? Well, this is the monoclonal monoclonal
antibodies. I think it's monoclonal monoclonal and that
appears to be very, very promising.
Unknown: Don't you have to get that
John C. Dvorak: by sucking the blood?
Adam Curry: I was gonna say, I think isn't that the in the old
days they go to the to the smallpox dead body and scraped
open one of those, get the pus out? And then
John C. Dvorak: unlike that, yeah, actually, so they
developed the vaccine. Yeah. Wow. Sounds crazy to me. Well,
let's go the old folks home and suck their plasma.
Adam Curry: Is that the show title suck their plasma and
John C. Dvorak: we should suck the plasma? Probably work on it.
Adam Curry: All right. I don't have much else. Sadly, you know,
this just hasn't been a lot of reports. It's all been. The news
has focused a lot on
unemployment insurance stopping. Which is
John C. Dvorak: worried Trump's fault.
Adam Curry: Well, I think he gaslit them pretty well. It's
Trump's fault, because he wants the FBI building, redone. And
then and he only wants that because because otherwise you'll
have competition for his hotel in DC. That's why he's put it in
there. I think it's in there as for exactly what it's intended
to be to take it out as a negotiating point. Are they
stupid? Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's how I see it. It's like,
okay, let me put let's have something in there that that I
can say all I really want it. It's important, and then they'll
hate me for it. And then it'll seem like a huge sacrifice, but
he doesn't care. How, since when does Trump like today's FBI?
He's had a few issues with them.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, I think so. And probably still does. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Then something very interesting happens. And this
was Friday, and it was very happy. I don't think you don't
have any Kaylee stuff to you today.
John C. Dvorak: Kaylee is a Thursday specials Thursday
special.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I have a Kaylee entre Mall. And now we
know that there was the antitrust hearing, again, you
know, the Silicon Valley companies. Earlier in the week
we talked about on Thursday had a couple of clips, and there was
zero. But I mean, really zero discussion of section 230 of the
Communications Decency Act, which is the whole really the
crux of the issue when it comes to deep platforming or silencing
someone just to revisit section 230 said, All right, any
computer service can host user generated content, I'll just
make it put it in understandable terms. And the service itself is
not liable for what people say on their platform, unless they
perform editorial functions and therefore you are publishing and
it's not just free and open speech. And that, I think that
really enabled huge growth on the internet for a I've
benefited from it. I think everyone's benefited. And now
it's time to go take a look at it. Whereas the way I see it,
even algorithms could technically be deemed as
editorializing may be on an individual level. But it's
certainly open to interpretation. And it's what
the President has been looking at since May to do something
now. So nothing came up in, in the in the House hearing with
the was it Google and Amazon and Apple Apple and face bag. So he
had promised that he has these new powers remember his
executive order powers that somehow were revealed
John C. Dvorak: that somehow he wangled from losing a Supreme
Court decision? Yeah, so this is why what how you should manage
that he was so gleeful? Yeah, well, he pulled a fast one.
Adam Curry: It's almost at the that's very possible that he was
oh, I just want to get this ruling. And then I can do
whatever I want. And the way it stands, he can he can issue
executive orders. And other and such, I should say, executive
orders and such. And they will be valid up to two years into
the next presidency into the next term, whether that's him or
whether that's whether it's Kamala Harris, either way. So
it's very binding. And it's very annoying. And to get some of
these the new executive orders and some strange law, which are
written, or this interpretation has been figured out by the same
guy who was able to convince everybody that torture is just
enhanced interrogation. So we bought that shit. So we might as
well buy into this. And he decided to get stuff started
with a petition to the FCC and Kaylee revealed this in her.
Well, it was really a complete setup. It's the Ozzie ebony No,
not as she's from Australia. Ebony. What's her name? Ebony
Bowden from the New York Post. Have you seen you should
probably look her up. You should do a quick little Google search
on images. Because Emily Bowden. No ebony as an ebony and ivory
ebony Bowden Bo WD en. And she's, I think she's from New
Zealand or from Australia could be New Zealand. She works for
the New York Post. And she had clearly written an article about
this spike by the White House yesterday. Then she asked a
question about it. And then Kaylee, and now I'm convinced
that when someone says that's a great question, it's a great
question, because they asked the question you knew they were
going to ask? I don't think we've analyzed that. But it
seems on the when we had late night talk shows with the
guests. And then clearly the host is asking a question that
the producers already discussed with the guests. The guests will
say Great question. Like Thank you. This is what I know. And
this is what happened with the case you look up Evany
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, what do you what what do you want? Which
by what am I supposed to be seeing here?
Adam Curry: Now if you can see see her with a mask and without
a mask? It's really she I hate to say it she looks a bit like
Erin Burnett. Without the mask with the mask. She looks
intriguing.
John C. Dvorak: The mask white I didn't hear that. She looks what
Adam Curry: intriguing.
John C. Dvorak: I am looking at a whole page of pictures of her.
And I see the the Erin Burnett. Look she's got that for sure.
But I can't find one pic of her with a mask on.
Adam Curry: She's got the mask on this in the in this video and
it benefits. I don't mean that in a bad way. It's just
John C. Dvorak: when she just looks terrific with a mask on
because you know, because? Because it's just because your
eyes are so dynamite. That must be
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think it focuses on her eyes and not the
Erin Burnett mouth. Alright, we've criticized women enough.
Let's listen to Kaylee.
Unknown: Thank you, Kaylee. I just wanted to confirm reports
that Mark Miller has actually made an offer to extend
unemployment insurance.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, should have had not I haven't spoken
him. I'm
sorry about that.
I did my own clip up here before that. And tell your commander
what he said keep
John C. Dvorak: it clean. You've been cussing a lot today
Unknown: for the CEO asking him to remove tweets from Iran
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini calling for the
genocide of the Israeli people. The company refused to do that,
because they said that the tweets will quote comments on
current affairs. I'm wondering if the White House has a
response, given that Twitter has recently begun restricting the
President's own tweets for glorifying violence, quote,
glorifying violence and spreading misinformation. And if
you have spoken to the President about any further action
policies, taking on social media companies,
she has a great question Evany I did see that New York Post story
and I thought it was very eye opening and it tells you where
the social media company stands. or they're not willing to, to to
assess the Ayatollah Khomeini's tweets, but they're willing to
assess President Trump's tweets. It's really appalling. And it
just speaks to their overwhelming blinding bias
against conservatives and against this president. And we
are taking action. The administration is submitting a
petition to the FCC for proposed regulatory changes to hold
social media companies accountable for their
censorship. And this petition that was previously reported on
earlier in the week asked the FCC to end the loophole that
allows social media companies to escape civil lawsuits for their
own speech, fact checks and D platforming. And the petition
seeks to expose social media companies to liability as a
speaker or publisher if they act as editors of content on their
platforms or remove lawful speech, based on politics on and
very good work by the New York Post. Letting that issue
Adam Curry: that really ruin it for me. Look, we know.
John C. Dvorak: Lousy? Yeah, it's
Adam Curry: a setup question, then you're gonna blow her at
the end?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it was bad. So I should have just let
it slide and been done a wink wink or something instead of
that.
Unknown: Yeah. Well,
John C. Dvorak: by the way, I want to go back to your comment
that we've been coming down as women, which is a sexist and
horrible and misogynist, for some unknown reason. If
somebody's going to make up their eyes like this woman does.
She's asking you what she wants critique.
Adam Curry: She received a didn't she that? They're asking
for it that I think you just made it worse. I don't know. I
mean, we're looking at this from television executive standpoint,
which a lot of people miss. So it's worth it's and we keep
reminding them that that's what we do. It's just one of our
bits. It's a bit it's a gag. It's not just the gag, we
deconstruct the promos.
John C. Dvorak: That's exactly the way this operates. If you go
into one of these meetings with these executives, these suits
these creeps, that's their worst that day. We can't even go
there. Listening to them. Yes. What has been so much meat to
action in the in the broadcasting world? Yes.
Adam Curry: Because it's like that. It's exactly what even
Elon Elon is, in the process of getting away. And you know what,
it's one woman who's complaining she says she didn't feel
comfortable. It's a very racist atmosphere. And then, of course,
some other people jumped in is working in television production
is toxic. It is. And it's, it's no one cares about your problem.
No one cares, the stage hands and just no one cares, audio
lighting, everyone's doing their own thing. And it's like, get
out of the way. It's harsh. It's brusque,
John C. Dvorak: by the way. This reminds me. Once in a while,
your show you're doing some some live broadcast. And there's a
bunch of these with a full crew and not with robots, but a bunch
of guys on cameras, and you bring some amateur in to do
something and they get freaked out. And they start worrying
about it. And you have to go over to him and say, Look, these
guys, they don't care about anything. No, they don't care
what you do. They they're just you could be naked, you get
stripped naked, and they would raise their eyebrows. Maybe
Yeah. But maybe not. And it's just don't even think about it,
because it's just not the way it works.
Adam Curry: And so if you look at broadcast news, yes, it's
that kind of crazy environment that romanticizes it to an
incredible degree. If you look at if you look at 30, rock,
anything like that, and romantically No, if you look at
30 Rock, it's very much the way it is. Very much. So it's all
about the numbers. It's all about the show, you have the
gift of nut job executives, they're sexist and crazy. I
mean, Alec Baldwin is he's seen enough of it. He's a method
actor when it comes to playing a television executive.
Unknown: And yes, yeah,
John C. Dvorak: I agree with you. 100% I always thought 30
Rock was, even though it's done as a comedy. It's actually it,
which it is. I mean, that scene is kind of comedic, but in fact,
it's just like a reality show. It's a reality in an unfunny
way.
Adam Curry: So I pulled up the petition that the President sent
over and this is this is his request and the petition for
rulemaking itself was written in May so he was holding on to this
I think that isn't that back one? No, I don't think anything
was a May we were locked down where we might we may believe we
John C. Dvorak: were locked down so it was written during
lockdown. We were ready to get over the lockdown, which is
going to end in Easter.
Adam Curry: So it's very technical. It's written in
legalese referring to Section 230 specific it's very It's
really long. But I think I just read a few the first graph or
two. So it wants to understand the interaction between some sub
paragraphs of section 230. In particular, to clarify and
determine the circumstances under which a provider of an
interactive computer service face bag that restricts access
to content in a manner not specifically protected by
subparagraph C two. So that's all technical definitions may
also not be able to claim protection under the other
paragraph. In other words, if you remove speech, which is
protected, but not protected under the section 230, which is
you know, the very loosey goosey obscene, what is it? I think
I've seen is one of the words if it's obscene, you can't put it
in there. So the question is, is this action taken in good faith?
Or they deceptive pretextual inconsistent with the providers
Terms of Service, or taken after failing to provide adequate
notice reasoned explanation or meaningful opportunity to be
heard things removed? I mean, every single example that you
can imagine of what social networks do but also search
engines is in here. And who's the FCC commissioners this? Does
he put someone on there that will dance to his tune?
John C. Dvorak: I believe the FCC let me look him up. I
believe so. Yes. I think he's a stooge. Yes.
Adam Curry: Usually they're stooges for the cable industry.
Oh, yeah. Ajit pie? That's the guy. Yeah. Pie pie guy. He's a
stooge. He's a total stooge. Where's it come from? Anyway?
Oh, yeah. Here he is. Is the chairman or the Federal
Communications Commission, he was designated Chairman
President Donald Trump, January 2017. previously served as a
commissioner, I think I hated Commissioner. I think he's the
one that said nope, no net neutrality. And she said no, net
neutrality net neutrality guy. Okay, good. So he'll take this
seriously.
And I'm pretty sure he'll
John C. Dvorak: it should this is the end, when you're all
you're doing here in this little presentation is describing the
end of the Internet as we know it. Well, I disagree. As is
going to watch the slides over to the FCC, which we knew was
inevitable. Yeah. Because of the net neutrality. People, they're
the ones who forced the issue. Oh, we got it. Well, we get into
you know, they're all bent out of shape, because everybody's
gonna get screwed by the Comcast as possible. I haven't seen it.
And they're the public debt is all this pro net neutrality
group. They're pushing it toward this. And Trump is is like doing
just a jujitsu move. And pulling it along. But it's
Adam Curry: gonna just be section 230 I, and that has to
be enforced. And that does fall under the FCC. And I think
that's, that's a good idea. But I think Zuckerberg is, is hoping
that he can have some kind of special carve out or it's
defined in some way that they can do it, or they've got to
figure out isn't that
John C. Dvorak: what it's called? Love that word carve
out? Or it's a phrase that's a carve out? Haven't heard it for
a while carve out? Yeah. Yeah. Was Dr. Briggs living in a dream
world? And I don't know that Zuckerberg would be against this
because of you once you establish this. These rules that
might make their jobs easier. They have maybe better excuses.
I'm not sure. I'll tell you this. I have a offbeat story
just to throw in. Okay. There was a lawsuit major lawsuit
against Google, by somebody regarding some they Google did
something with their search engine or I don't know the
details, unfortunately. But I was contacted by a massive law
firm to be an expert witness on this particular case. Now is
this recent or a while ago? Recent is like was in the last
two years? And I said all Yeah, I can do that. Because I you
know, I believe that the via they're, they're showing
editorializing by by. My comment was they're showing
editorializing in violation of 230 Bucha makes them a publisher
this all these operations should be considered. And I wrote a
whole column about it, which I'm surprised even call me after,
after I reviewed the column. The column which says that good
people are publishers, Facebook's a publisher, they're
just what's the difference between them and the New York
Times? That means the content is sourced differently, but it's
still publishing, they're publishing and they should and
they do editorialize. They dig, take stuff down. Yeah. So how is
that different than the New York Times I made this long argument
about how important it is to do decided these Twitter, and
Facebook? They're all publishers. And the guy's end
which I thought would be the way to go. The lawyer in his massive
firm that's handling this case is no, no, we want to do just
the opposite. We We want to prove they're not published.
Adam Curry: Oh, well, you're calling the wrong witness or
well that's
John C. Dvorak: what it amounted to. I never heard from him after
we no kidding station was all in until it was like I couldn't
make that argument under any circumstances on especially on
the stand. How did you suggest?
Adam Curry: How did he suggest making the argument? Surely you
had a
John C. Dvorak: real he just thought that you had to dirt
angling to big firm was angling to prove that they're not
publishers, and I don't know what the trick was at the end
that they're gonna pull the rug out from under that case, I
don't know. But that but the big boys want to make it clear that
these are not publishers. And I'm to this day, I'm baffled by
this. When it's so obvious that they are publishers,
Adam Curry: I'm, I guess, and I but I really want to get down to
how algorithms fit into space because they are editing on an
individual basis based on you, which makes it even crazier.
Like, Well, I'm not gonna give you this stuff. I'm not gonna
give you you just you. In this particular case, I'm not going
to show you, Adam Curry's tweets. It's not important to
you, for you to see what he's tweeting even though you have a
following you. Yes, we have a technical relationship. Exactly.
Well, there's a lot going on. There's one other thing I just
want to highlight when it comes to be stopped. Yes, when it
comes to Silicon Valley, when it comes to people trying to make a
buck and a career foolishly by thinking this would be a great
idea to do it with bio, some people feel they have a career
on Twitter, Instagram.
Also,
one of my thinking, YouTube,
and see if I have this clip here.
And tick tock, and this was great over the weekend. People
on Tik Tok were children were freaking out. Yeah, they're kids
who have on 800,000 followers, and I'm sure they have entire,
you know, sponsorships, and all and who even knows if these
numbers are correct. And this is such a black box, this thing
that Microsoft has been in negotiations for several weeks
to buy them. Microsoft bought LinkedIn and they are the spy
company. So it makes sense. They just have more ways to spy on
you. We're not on that Apple iPhone yet. But hey, we got the
windows part. And I think it was tough. And Trump just stepped in
and said, I'm gonna ban it. I'm going to turn that thing off,
which was purely to help Microsoft with the price. It's
so obvious, but no, you get all the children crying. Here's a
tick tock er who who was onto the gambit.
Unknown: Congratulations to all you Penny drivers, y'all just
got played again. To be honest, this has actually been one of
the most blatant bait and switch techniques I've ever seen used,
and everyone fell for it. You see, instead of panicking when
Trump said he was going to ban Tiktok. Today, I actually did a
little bit of research. And lo and behold, Microsoft was in
talks with the parent company to buy Tecton The talks were not
going in Microsoft's favor, however, the United States makes
up most of the TIC TOCs market, the US ban tick tock that would
have been most of its user base. How do I know this? Because it
was less than 12 hours later and bytedance cave to Microsoft's
don't just go by what the news says sometimes you need to look
into stories a little bit more to actually understand what is
all going on?
Adam Curry: Yes, there's your journalist on tick tock, he
figured it out. That was a bait, bait and switch it was it was
also sad.
John C. Dvorak: Did technically, it wasn't a bait and switch. I
mean, if you're gonna start using these kinds of terms for
certain kinds of scams, now was not Susan bait and switch
Adam Curry: not at all a bait and switch now. But the face bag
is just completed a deal with all the publishers to so that
people can use music. And you know, the dancing. So that's
what that's what byte dance had is they had the Performing
Rights to huge catalog so people could do all these dances. And
that's the secret. It's not that anything more viral or anything
better about this app. It's just they have the right so you
people can say oh, I want to use that song. I'm in the house
bored. I'm bored in the house. And then you hear that a million
times a day. That's where it's making money, saving money for
the for the music publishers. But then there's there's real
trouble real trouble with the alternative scene. And I will
let Tim Poole give you the headline in 47 seconds because
he doesn't like no one else. Ladies and
John C. Dvorak: gentlemen, the war with Patreon is escalating.
And this could be the The equivalent of a nuclear bomb
dropped in the culture war, this is gonna get nuts Sargon of
Akkad and Lauren southern have entered the fray declaring war
on Patreon, let me slow down and explain what's happening. But
let me not bury the lead. What is about to come. And work is
underway right now, if the legal pundits are correct, notably
Wilt Chamberlain and Mike Cernovich, we may see the income
of many high profile left wing channels completely stripped
away, I'm talking about some of the biggest left wing podcasts
that exist could lose all of their money.
Adam Curry: And he's gleeful. This cancel war, and D
monetization has gotten a little out of control, we've all I owe
it to him, it's not just I'm gonna kick down your fort is
like, you're not gonna be able to pay your rent. But this case
is interesting. And what's what's happening here is very
typical for Silicon Valley. Although I think these guys, the
Patreon guys who essentially looked at the value for value
model, and said, We can sit in the middle of that, and make
money on it. And then we're going to charge 7% total and,
and then we're also going to decide if you belong on our
platform or not. And we're going to just remove you if we don't
like what you're doing with your content, even though they don't
really have a platform per se to host anything. They just have a
payment with levels and rewards, etc. So that canceling people
from that, but what happened with I don't know what's it
wasn't Lawrence was with Oh, with one comedian. He riled up
his audience. And in the terms of service of pretty much every
Silicon Valley company, there's always I would say, almost
always a provision that says, lawsuits. No, we're not going to
do lawsuits. If you want to sue us, you have to go through
something called arbitration. And arbitration is a specific
process where you do it outside of a courtroom with I guess, the
judge is an art arbiter, a judge or some some person of stature
John C. Dvorak: as a professional, arbiter,
professional arbiter,
Adam Curry: and then you hash it out. And now there's recourse
after that if you don't get to it. But apparently, part of the
rule is if someone files an arbitration or requests for
arbitration, that you as the company have to immediately set
money aside for that arbitration process. And depending on your
law firm, and depending upon the request, can be up to $10,000.
And so what they've done is they've just got 100 people,
hundreds of people are now requesting arbitration. And I
believe it may even be related to Section 230. Or, more likely
that the they had already pre paid and their money didn't come
back, even though the person was it's, it doesn't matter what it
is. So they're flooding Patreon with the suits that all have to
be pre funded. And I think that it's now in the millions of
dollars, and they may not be they may collapse under the
weight of the arbitration. That's pretty
John C. Dvorak: wild. This is I did not follow this.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And so now if you listen to Tim Poole, which
should be done at half volume, you can you can understand that
people are now considering doing this against other companies.
Now, if you do it against the Google, I think Google is gonna
laugh.
John C. Dvorak: Google's got more than enough Reese reserves
to handle million of these.
Adam Curry: But for a little Patreon, who clearly got some
advice from your typical Silicon Valley lawyer, I'm sure it was
Wilson Sonsini.
John C. Dvorak: Any one of three.
Adam Curry: They bank with silicon bank. They have Wilson
says he is the lawyer.
John C. Dvorak: Yes. Is this always the same guy? It's always
the same. I remember
Adam Curry: when we took a company public in 96. And then
we raised like $19 million, or something was very small. So
before the billion dollar raises at night, we sat down with
Wilson Sonsini the next day congratulations guys way to get
out is great. And they hand us a check for 15 million $4 million.
million dollars. Thanks Wilson Sonsini for taking us public or
not taking advising us not even talking about the underwriters
anyway.
What is kind of nice to know that this problem
John C. Dvorak: you're a podcaster?
Adam Curry: And not only am I a podcaster the pod father but it
hit me Friday night. I've not slept more than a couple hours a
night I figured out how to fix podcasting. And I'm going to do
it So
John C. Dvorak: this is the last time I heard this was the this
was your exact mode. Go into this all the time.
Adam Curry: I do it's a cycle.
John C. Dvorak: I think it's about every two years. But it
could be longer. Yeah. The last time you had this was you were
actually I was probably another time before. But the last time
Adam Curry: podcaster Pro? Yes.
John C. Dvorak: Which road finally did
Adam Curry: Yeah, so I was right. I chose poor partners.
That was my that was my mistake. There's no doubt about it. Yeah.
And I learned from that. That was, you know, I learned from
the failure and so did Rhoda and I'm happy. Wrote it. What? Oh,
poor guy. This is fucking great. We got all these bits. And they
never sent you a free one never sent me a free one. And they're
still there. They almost have it perfected if only they'd put a
noise gate on the channel that comes in from the computer. I'm
just going to keep saying until they do it. Otherwise, it looks
like a pretty decent device. Now this is a fix. That will fix
payments. It's gonna fix a whole bunch of things. I figured it
out.
And, and he may give us an exit strategy.
John C. Dvorak: Are you going to discuss this openly? Hell no.
I'm
Adam Curry: not even going to tell you privately now. No, no,
no, no, no, no, I've learned. I've learned I've learned from
my mistakes. But podcasting 2.0 It's coming.
John C. Dvorak: Working on it. Okay. We're all on med pins and
needles. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's all the T's you get the next T's you get
will be a pew pew map. Well, there you go.
John C. Dvorak: All right. Well, you went off the tracks. Yes, I
can try it well,
Adam Curry: so I'm kind of done with Silicon Valley after I told
that there wasn't off track.
John C. Dvorak: I do have by the way, I have one of those. It's
not Wilson Sonsini. But there's three of these major law firms.
They shoot each other out constantly. One is used by Intel
ones used by AMD and there's a third one. And so one of them
was involved with setting up Hack Reactor one of the earliest
and one of the actually maybe Hack Reactor to one of the first
of these intensives $10,000. You pay him $10,000. You you sit in
your own sweat for a month and a half incubator. And you end up
getting a well no, not an incubator. Oh, what
Adam Curry: are you talking about them?
John C. Dvorak: These are these companies that have intensive
coding classes where you get out of there you actually get a high
paying job the minute you step out of these courses.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Is that what a buzzkill Jr did?
John C. Dvorak: Yes, yes. Where the story makes sense. So
buzzkill Jr, and now he's, you know, he's working makes good
money to hand it over. I don't know lots. Not enough to pay.
But he owes me but I want to get
Adam Curry: into that you still just still got a chain on him?
Good to know.
John C. Dvorak: So the so the so Mimi, who is a good? I don't
know where she got to scale but a long time. I think it's from
all the book deals we used to do. And it was she got to skill
for being able to read contracts because she actually enjoys
reading them. Yes, I'm aware the key to success. Yeah. If you
like reading them and looking for the gotchas and call her up.
Yep. So she's reading through his country and his and it's the
worst she says the contract to the employment kind of
everything that they have over there is a mess. There's no
indemnification. There's no this there's no bad. There's no non
disparagement, there's all the stuff is missing. It's a piece
of crap, right? And she says I didn't she gives us she tells
them how to fix the contract. And she's and the guys that ran
the place and I this is this is unbelievable. Then he names what
this was done by and gives one of the big three one of those
big law firms names, of course find that by some intern. And it
was just a scam. I mean, these guys aren't even doing their
jobs. These big boys. Oh, my goodness.
Unknown: Yeah, yeah, typical.
John C. Dvorak: Anyway, that's our complaint we go about inside
baseball. It's not really that interesting to the public.
Should not be stopped now.
Adam Curry: Okay, so let me go to China. I'll make it
entertaining everybody. I promise. Hopefully, the Tick
Tock news made you look at China a little bit differently. It is
the we got to I think I'm pitching at a at a producer note
we both got to do China stuff
Unknown: is boring. Again to those notes. And to me,
John C. Dvorak: this stuff is boring. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, okay, let's
John C. Dvorak: do a follow up nice to China. Well, I'm
Adam Curry: not going to be nice to China. And I'm not going to
be I'm just going to say China because I feel that we haven't
there's probably 90 million Chinese who are members of the
CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, and the rest of the
Chinese are not just looking the other way. So If you ever
responsibility, your asshole, here's Gordon Chang who hates
the Chinese government. He's written several books about it.
This is about the mystery seeds that have been sent to people
all over the continental US now, which has been, has been
dismissed as a brushing scam. Which means and apparently this
happens, sellers of product will ship something stupid to an
address just to be able to say, yep, we shipped it off at the
verified seller so they can write a bogus review seems a
little excessive. The amount of seed packets they sent out for
just a review scam, and Gordon Chang, he's not buying it
either.
Unknown: I think that China is testing the response of US
officials to what in the future could be a horrible biological
weapons attack. They're seeing how we react. Now, these seeds,
even if they are, let's say harmless, could are invasive
species. And that means that they can damage agriculture,
they can cause harm to livestock, and they of course,
could ruin the environment. So even if this were, let's say, a
brushing attempt, which is what some people say, in other words,
in attempt to generate online reviews that are fake, this can
cause real harm to the US. And by the way, it's not just the
US, the UK, Taiwan, Canada, other countries have also been
the subject of these unsolicited packages of seeds and soil. I
think that they see that this is asymmetric warfare that is hard
to identify the malevolence behind it. We know that China's
People's Liberation Army in 1999 wrote that book, unrestricted
warfare, China's plan to destroy the United States. And they
talked about biological tax in that book. Probably we are
seeing them actually execute on part of that strategy. Right
after the Coronavirus, as you point out, Tucker, because China
took steps in December in January to deliberately spread
the disease beyond China's borders.
Adam Curry: I mean, I even I wouldn't have conspired to come
up with that.
Unknown: They're testing our
Adam Curry: defenses.
John C. Dvorak: Gordon Chang is quite the character, we should
probably get to know Him more and get more clips from him
because he's really a his interesting, insightful. Nobody.
I mean, he'll pay some attention to him, but I think we could pay
more attention to him. I've always enjoyed whatever he has
to say,
Adam Curry: yeah, it's just in this case. I mean, they're
testing our response to this. I mean, that's, that freaks me out
more than a lot of other things I hear about China. That's
sneaky. And as they're doing that coordinated and seeing what
the US response is, and apparently other countries.
John C. Dvorak: Well, they, if you think of if you go with the
idea that China is, even though I think something there's
something among exaggerated meme that China's long term, you
know, the 1000 year programs. Yeah. And if you're gonna go if
you've watched enough science fiction, especially it's stories
like SG one, Stargate one, yeah, there's these ideas that are
been planted out to her about this sort of thing where you
could, you know, poison the country in some way, shape or
form ideologically it's being done right now by the education
system and its media. That clip we played in the last show with
these dumb girls saying the United States sucks and we
shouldn't have a rainbow flag and Stars and Stripes should go
away. And now we have all the kneeling you know, the baseball
games that are going to be in pretty soon but they have a
baseball game everybody has everybody now has to kneel. Why
even play the national anthem? It doesn't make any sense to me.
Man was everything.
Adam Curry: So I we've been watching talking so much about
sports, and I watched the whole the last dance. Did you watch
that? By the way, the last dance with the Michael Jordan, I have
a queued up, you'll enjoy because not just about Jordan.
And of course,
John C. Dvorak: I have to I have to use this. We talked about
this, but I do I have to mention what's becoming a real guilty
pleasure. I have obtained all the seasons of Chicago PD, which
is the sickest show ever put on broadcast television? Yeah.
Especially when you watch her in the beginning of the first
episode on it is incredibly violent. And you know,
meanwhile, Holly was giving everyone crap about that. Oh,
you know, your trump is incredibly violent. It is about
corruption and it would the way they present it as a necessity.
And it's just a damndest thing and it is structured beautifully
is a Dick Wolf show. So it would be after all these years He's
got that. He's got it nailed. Yeah. And it's a hell of a thing
to see to watch it. If it ever shows up on Netflix or anything,
I'd recommend just plowing through
Adam Curry: it. So how does that relate to China?
John C. Dvorak: I had said, you said something to me says
somebody remember. Remember the subject. I can't remember what
it was. You added to this thing you want me to watch about the
bow? Oh, yes.
Adam Curry: Okay, there we go. Sorry. So I watched the jazz
play Utah Jazz play God, I don't know. It was so pathetic. And
they had on the back of there. So the first they had the
kneeling. And way to go, Jonathan, Isaac, Jonathan Isaac,
I think it is. Way to go man, don't it. He said no. In fact,
do I have a clip of him? I think I may have a clip. I was quite
impressed by. Hmm, I guess I don't. It's crazy.
I thought I had
I thought I had that all clipped. I wanted to talk about
it. Oh, here we go. Jonathan Isaac of the Orlando Magic. So
he didn't put on the Black Lives Matter jersey. He didn't kneel.
They have to know he's an ordained minister. I think he
preached I think he I think he has a church that he preaches.
And I don't know if it's his or if he's like a some gig work,
you know, side hustle. But when I saw the other jerseys, the
players had, say her name on the back freedom, equality, justice.
And the one white guy on the field on the court, the one
white guy had ally. It was like, oh my god, this is so pathetic,
pathetic. And Ally. Like it that's like racist by itself.
You can't have say her name on your shirt. Your ally, isn't
ally. Just I felt very allied myself just watching. But here's
Jonathan Isaac getting asinine question from the press, and an
asinine follow up. He's kind of hard to understand. But if you
focus, you'll get it. Make sure you unmute. Hey.
Unknown: So I have a two part question for you. So you didn't
kneel during the anthem, but you also didn't wear a black lives
matter shirt? Do you believe that black lives matter?
Adam Curry: I mean, what kind
Unknown: of a question is that? These
Adam Curry: do these children go to journalism school and learn
this? Let's ask the black man Lee they do what's asked the
black man of Black Lives Matter. Come on.
John C. Dvorak: Stop, stop, stop. It, for context was just a
black reporter, a white reporter
Adam Curry: while she was on the phone, so we don't know. But she
sounds corny to me. Absolutely.
I believe that black lives matter a lot when it's my
decision. And part of this is my thought that you're nearly a
winner. And
you don't even understand what he's saying. Yes, I
John C. Dvorak: can understand everything. He's saying, okay.
Adam Curry: Don't go hand in hand with supporting backlash. I
do believe that black lives matter. But I just felt like it
was a decision that I had to make. And I didn't feel like
putting putting a shirt on and Nealon went hand in hand with
supporting backlash that it made me to pull backlash and that I
believe that. For myself, my life has been supported up to
the gospel of Jesus Christ. Everyone is made in the image of
God and that we are fortunate for God's glory.
Unknown: Go ahead. Okay. Am I able to follow up with a quick
one? Yes, please do. Go ahead. Okay. So Jonathan, I'm asking
this with all sincerity. I just want to really understand your
reasoning for that. Can you just explain further what you feel
like religion has to do with kneeling for the anthem to
protest against racism and police brutality?
I mean, wow, thanks for
Adam Curry: the endeavor. Question, lady. What does
religion have to do it day? Oh, thank you. And I appreciate
Jonathan Isaac,
John C. Dvorak: clinical just dipshit that woman is
Adam Curry: she just wants to quote for a headline so she can
hang up and go right and be first and posted on Twitter,
that journalism today. But the whole thing is clearly Chinese
influences. I'm sure that they want to see this on the games in
China. They want to see this obedience from the players no
matter what the issue is. And you can have your name and I'm
sure they'd love that no names on their shirts just like
everyone else. You just
Unknown: don't even need a driver's license.
Adam Curry: Whereas Major League Baseball, none of this or at
least not on the not on the uniforms. The head fake crowd
noise. So it's just and then you add in Jonathan Isaac, and he's
talking about Church and religion and that is a problem
for China. And this is coming to a head as the deal is up for
renegotiation between the Vatican and the Chinese
Communist Party, who I think as we discussed, have created a
separate Catholic Church in China, the SI P A, which is, I
think Catholic people's, the church of whatever it's bogus
with Cardinals that are only approved by the CCP. I'm very
suspicious of this pope, who was making the deals reported more
than a billion dollars just to go along with whatever they want
them to do. And it's time to renegotiate
Unknown: both the Vatican and the Catholic Diocese of Hong
Kong are the targets of hackers allegedly backed by the Chinese
Communist government. The Chinese Foreign Ministry calls
the report, quote, groundless speculation, you're going to
find it themed party. Chinese officials deny the allegations a
report from the digital monitoring group recorded future
claims that since May hackers have spread malware and access
church offices in Hong Kong, as well as servers at the Vatican
in just over a month, the Holy See, and China are scheduled to
hold talks to negotiate how the church will cooperate with the
Chinese Communist regime.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the other reporting is how the church will
cooperate, they will cooperate. Even the reporting is like that.
The Catholic Church is in huge disarray over this. That would
think so a lot of producers have emailed me and really schooled
me on what's going on. And I still have, you know, there's a
new Vatican constitution coming out is what they just not what
it's called, but it's kind of the new version of the
Constitution, a whole bunch of cardinals are going to get
retired, new ones are coming in. So everyone's very worried about
this. And this pope is saying a lot of stuff that Catholics do
not like, particularly about some core issues. So we'll keep
our eye on that. But you get to the church and you start
changing that then you start to change some fundamental ways
that people believe not today, tomorrow, but gradually in the
future. And it seems to be kind of planned. It certainly is
working with the with socialism in the United States. That seems
to be coming in perfectly. We have I told you that Jeff Bezos
is the lightning rod of, of capitalism. Now. It used to be
it actually used to be Bill Gates for a while I think wasn't
Bill Gates, kind of the capitalist pig for a few years?
Unknown: Yeah. And
John C. Dvorak: Gates was a capitalist pig. Larry, all
capitalist pigs have drawn that top five list.
Adam Curry: But Warren Buffett has never called out as a
capitalist pig. No, because
John C. Dvorak: he presents himself as a nice, friendly Old,
old man from Omaha.
Adam Curry: Well, Bezos is
the socialist, the Democratic socialist, but just kids who are
not even not even ideologically affiliated, who gladly love all
the benefits of capitalism. That's the woke infrastructure
of Apple iPhone, Starbucks and other places that that have
immunity. And even Amazon has immunity, that no one is
stopping ordering from Amazon. No, they don't like Bezos. But
they hate Bezos because he made $13 billion in one day in one
day. So now they're going after him personally, including the
Seattle Council. This is Seattle City Council members are
John C. Dvorak: communists on that council and the whole thing
is skewed left.
Adam Curry: She's a socialist. Her name is Shama savant. I
believe she is.
I don't know. I don't know if
John C. Dvorak: she's winded clip from Hershey during the
Chazzy. Or Yeah.
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, here she is going. And this is about the
Amazon tax.
John C. Dvorak: She's trying to dry she is going to single
handedly drive drive Amazon out of Seattle, and the city will go
into a depression. It'll it'll, you know, Seattle, which is one
of the fuse city cities that actually has a vibrant downtown
and it's, you know, you can go it's not like st no offense to
the people in St. Louis and Cleveland and, and these places
back east that are just decayed city centers. Detroit, of course
is a good example. Seattle has never gone through any of that.
It has been nice all at times to San Francisco I'd say is the
same way. It's not going to stay that way. It's going to end up
like an East Coast piece of crap.
Adam Curry: Can you explain quickly the Amazon tax what that
is?
John C. Dvorak: I think it's a head yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right is do they have to pay per and that
has to go to affordable housing, which I think Amazon has done a
Bezos put $10 billion of the last quarter, I think it's all
the operational profit into upgrading whatever, but doesn't
matter. He's a slave driver, that man horrible. And the going
after him personally, and he or she is
Unknown: I am a message for Jeff Bezos and his class. If you
attempt again, to overturn the Amazon tax working, people will
go all out in the 1000s to defeat you. And we will not stop
there. Because you see, we are fighting for far more than this
tax, we are preparing the ground for a different kind of society.
And if you Jeff Bezos want to drive that process forward, by
lashing out against us in our modest demands, then so be it,
because we are coming for you and your rotten systems. We are
coming to dismantle this deeply oppressive, racist, sexist,
violent, orderly bankrupt system of capitalism, this police
state, we cannot and will not stop until we overthrow it and
replace it with a world based instead on solidarity, genuine
democracy and equality. A socialist world
by the way, she's she's from
Adam Curry: India, she is from India.
John C. Dvorak: Classes not a an unusual way to be in India. And
this is one of the reasons this has held India back for probably
hundreds of years. This it's a it's built into their. To their
mentality. Yeah, it's a mentality of same way.
Civilizations. It's a conflict of civilizations. Plant somebody
like that over in Seattle, amongst a bunch of dummies. And
they all lap it up. It's hilarious to watch. I mean, it's
like some of the, during the 70s we had this thing with all
these. There was this huge influx of gurus from India.
Adam Curry: Yeah, and they all got grand in Montana. Well, they
all did.
John C. Dvorak: They all did different things, but they had a
sales pitch that was so alien to Americans. So the Rajneesh E's
were one of the best examples with their at the airport zoo
remember this?
Adam Curry: Hari Krishna signing up with their orange that was
that Bhagwan or is that Harry?
John C. Dvorak: No No but I remember I don't remember
either. Raj Nishi was this was the main guy but it was the I
forget the even the name of this group but they Yeah, they were
all very colorful, but their sales pitches alien to Western
ears and we easily are susceptible to it for some
reason. Because it's been very fine tuned in India which is a
real hard sell selling in India is really not easy. So they get
the sales pitches disappoint and that's what we're seeing with
this socialist stuff. A lot of it's coming right out of India
whether it's controlled by the Chinese or not the Chinese
assure not
Adam Curry: no no the Chinese are with Pakistan now they're
hating India
John C. Dvorak: well this division is that the message is
very
Adam Curry: so what is the message and what are they trying
to sell what what I mean socialism Okay, got it. What she
calls democracy.
John C. Dvorak: They're trying to shell the defeat of
capitalism. They want the capitalistic system done. Do
they have anything to replace it with if you ask them
Adam Curry: socialism, she said she pointed out she said
socialism now to get nothing. She said socialism.
Well, what is it? It's not Jeff
Bezos apparently.
John C. Dvorak: Already hammered and we're good. Yes,
Adam Curry: it Yes. If Jeff Bezos was murdered tomorrow, the
kids will be dancing in the street thinking they won. This
this they're idiots her. Oh, not all of them, but a lot of them.
And before we take our break, since it's a Sunday, and it can
only be done uh, no agenda, if you didn't hear it. I thought
the grilling that Jim Jordan did of hair Dr. Fauci
over the protests. was so good.
That of course it didn't get a lot of airtime. Got nowhere time
it. Did you see any of it?
John C. Dvorak: I saw Yeah, I saw. I saw a couple of clips. I
didn't hear the whole thing. I was always gonna go back and
watch. Yeah,
Adam Curry: so it's about four minutes you have it? Yes, I do.
It's four minutes. If we get either. Either one of us has
veto. If we're bored, then we'll stop it.
John C. Dvorak: Well, hold on a second. I want to mention that
people should take note of this. Because Jim Jordan who is a
favorite of mine. He was semi banned on this show. For some
reason or other really find it interesting that you've you've
been you've been swept. You've switched over to the other side.
Adam Curry: I do not remember Jim Jordan being banned on the
show. We have a ban on Rachel Maddow. We have a ban on Sean
Hannity. We have a ban on the John Kerry
John C. Dvorak: Tucker Well, John Kerry's not even in the
picture anymore.
Adam Curry: Well, Tucker is just
no ban on Tucker. He's
John C. Dvorak: just he were circumspect when we play
Unknown: Tucker. circumspect.
Adam Curry: I just I like his guest. Gordon Chang came from
his show, so he's guessing. Okay, anyway, Jim Jordan, I'm
John C. Dvorak: gonna I'll stop it if I need to stop it in a
moment, maybe to ask a question, but I would gladly listen to the
whole thing.
Adam Curry: Here we go. All right. So no agenda special.
Unknown: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dr. Fauci do protest,
increase the spread of the virus.
You protest, increase the spread of the virus?
Adam Curry: Repeat the question while he's thinking of the
answer, because oh, boy, he knows he's getting screwed here.
Unknown: I think I can make a general
John C. Dvorak: statement. About half a million protesters on
June 6 alone. I'm just asking that number of people, does it
increase the spread of the buyer
crowding together, particularly when you're not wearing a mast
contributes?
Adam Curry: He's so nervous, he says masked instead of mask.
Jim's garden he's got he's got him on the ropes. Already
John C. Dvorak: million protesters on June 6 alone, I'm
just asking that number of masks does increase the spread the
virus
crowding together, particularly when you're not wearing masks,
contributes to the spread of the virus?
Unknown: Should we limit the protesting?
John C. Dvorak: I'm not sure what do we should do? How do we
say limit the protesting the
government limit the protesting?
Unknown: I don't think that's relevant to
what you just said. If it increases the spread of the
virus, I'm just asking should we limit it?
Well, I'm not in a position to determine what the government
can do in a forceful way.
John C. Dvorak: We make all kinds of recommendations. You
know, you make comments on dating on baseball and
everything you can imagine. I'm just asking you, you just said
protests increase the spread, I just asked you should we try to
limit the product? Now?
I think I would leave that to people who have more of an
appropriate position to do that. I can tell you
government stopped and people from gone to church, Dr. Fauci
last week in the Calvary Chapel case, five liberals on the
Supreme Court said it was okay for Nevada to limit church
services. Government I mean, Justice Gorsuch said it best he
said, there's no there's no world in which the Constitution
permits Nevada to favor Caesars Palace over Calvary Chapel. I'm
just asking, is there a world where the Constitution says you
can favor one first amendment liberty, protesting over
another, practicing your faith?
Unknown: I'm not favoring anybody over anybody. I'm just
making a statement that avoid crowds.
Adam Curry: What should he have done in this case? Because
clearly, he's been very, very adamant about, about churches
about bars about restaurant, he's been adamant about
everything. Because obviously, he's not getting out of this.
John C. Dvorak: He know he screwed himself by not beginning
correctly, he should have started off with I'm very
concerned about this probably as much as I'm concerned about
anything else. And that neutralizes everything you just
mentioned. So he's admitting that it's a problem. That was
throw Jordan off, because now it's just now is that well, you
know, I, I just said that I heard concerned about it now.
Adam Curry: Exactly. Exactly. Now, it's just down on the mat.
And Jordan, yeah, he screwed up, humbling in
John C. Dvorak: any type no matter where you are. Because
that leads to the acquisition and transmission. And I don't
judge one crowd versus another crowd, when you're in a crowd,
particularly if you're not wearing a mask that
induces it's a simple question, doctor, should we limit the
protests? Government is obviously limiting people
monitor and look. No, there's been no violence that I can see
at church. I haven't seen people during a church service go out
and inform police officers or burn buildings. But we know that
I mean, for 63 days, and I Now
Adam Curry: pay close attention to Fauci because he's just going
to start sputtering and he's getting annoyed and, and he
starts saying, it doesn't it doesn't go well,
John C. Dvorak: it's it's been happening in Portland. Yeah,
well, one night in Chicago, 49 officers were injured. But No
limits. No limit to protests. But, boy, you can't go to church
on Sunday.
I don't know how many times I can answer that. I'm not going
to apply on limiting anything. I'm just going to tell you my
mind on a lot of things. Dr. Phil Yeah. But I've noticed
there's something that directly impacts the spread of the virus
and I'm asking your your your position on the protests. Yeah,
Unknown: I'm, well, I'm not going to apply and I'm limiting
anything. I'm telling you what it is the danger, and you can
make your own conclusion that you opine,
John C. Dvorak: the only person who use old pine to access this
was Bill O'Reilly. Constantly at the end of his show, every show
he would say if you wish to opine, send me a letter at Bill
O'Reilly dot com. That's not the same as Bill O'Reilly of Fox
News and blah, blah, but Alpine Alpine Alpine he would use. So
I'm now guessing that Fauci used to be O'Reilly watcher.
Adam Curry: Oh my god. Yeah, it is. These are words like who
would use Oh, I've never heard him use it either. Interesting.
All right, yeah,
Unknown: I'm, well, I'm not going to apply and I'm limiting
anything. I'm telling you what it is the danger. And you can
make your own conclusion about that. You should stay away from
crowds, no matter where the crowd
John C. Dvorak: stop government is. Government has stopped
people from going to work.
Adam Curry: What if he says, Hey, you're such a ditto head,
then we'll know for sure Fauci is
John C. Dvorak: just in New Jersey four days ago, Ian Smith,
Frank Trombetta were arrested for opening up from trying to
operate their business, their gym. They were arrested. But my
bet is, if these two individual in this gym were outside, just
in front of their gym, and all the people who were working out
in their gym, were outside protesting, they've been just
fine. But because they were in the gym, working out, actually
running their business, they got arrested. You think that's okay.
You know, I'm not going to a point on who gets arrested. The
opine I get where I'm going. I'm telling you.
Adam Curry: Alright, so now he's trying to play the inside
baseball card. Now he's like, Hey, do you get where I'm going,
stop this mofo, you're badgering me stop at,
John C. Dvorak: you know, I'm not going to appoint
a second. That's another mistake. That's exactly what he
should have said what you just said. Can you stop badgering me
about this? I didn't like I don't like the idea of these big
crowds. It's all it's all I have to say. I think make him get off
track
Adam Curry: because he's already off. He's off the rails. He's
frozen, he has nowhere to go. He can't think straight.
John C. Dvorak: That's the problem. That's probably when
you're in these situations, unless you're prepared. That's
why they have these, you know, these specialists that can you
know, do a fake version of this. So you can be guessed the
hardest the harshest questions and they teach you how to how to
do it. But apparently, to that intake, you needed it? Well I
did.
That is if these two individuals own this gym, were outside just
in front of their gym, and all the people who are working out
in their gym, were outside protesting, they'd been just
fine. But because they were in the gym working out, actually
running their business, they got arrested. You think that's okay.
You know, I'm not going to a point on who gets arrested and
who does not. I mean, I you get where I'm going. I'm telling you
as a public health official,
I say Crowl. You see the inconsistency though, Dr. Fauci.
There's no inconsistency, Congressman, why there's no. So
you're out to protest millions of people on one day in crowds
yelling, screaming, but you try to run your business, you get
arrested. And if you stood right outside of that same business
and protested, you wouldn't get arrested. You don't see an
inconsistency there.
I don't understand what you're asking me is a public health
official to a point on who should get or not. That's not my
position. You could ask us.
You've advocated for certain businesses, you've advocated for
certain businesses to be shut down. I'm just asking you on
your position on the protest. I mean, I haven't seen one. We've
heard a lot about hair salons. I haven't seen one hairstylist,
who, between haircuts, goes out and attacks police or set
something on fire. But we've seen all kinds of that stuff
during protests. And we know the protests actually increase the
spread of the virus. You've said that I said crowds. I didn't say
specifically, I didn't say protest. Do any of the protests
and don't increase the spread of fire. I didn't say that you
putting words in my mouth? No, I would I just want an answer to
the question. Do the protests increase the spread of the
virus? I
Unknown: don't have any scientific evidence and anything
I can tell you that
crap Oh, known? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Adam Curry: I hadn't heard that the first time? Because I have
no scientific evidence.
Unknown: What?
John C. Dvorak: So the protests don't increase the spread of the
virus. I didn't say that. You're putting words in my mouth? No, I
want I would I just want an answer to the question. Do the
protests increase the spread of the virus? I
don't have any scientific evidence that anything I can
tell you that. Particularly when you don't have a mask to
increase the acquisition and transmission, no matter what you
don't
have a position on whether the protest increased the spread of
the virus or don't increase the spread of the virus.
I'm saying that crowds wherever the crowds are, can give you an
increased probability that there's going to be acquisition
and transmission. But do
you understand Americans concern? Protesting according
directly, according to Democrats is just fine. But you can't go
to work. You can't go to school, you can't go to church. There's
limits placed on all three of those fundamental activities,
and activities. But protesting is just fine.
Adam Curry: And there's obvious reasons why you didn't see this
anywhere on the main street. Not a single maybe on Fox,
John C. Dvorak: maybe. Maybe, yeah, maybe me, man, maybe.
There's a lot of good stuff in these hearings that we plan to
show that never gets anywhere.
Adam Curry: I harbor bad feelings towards Fauci. There's
a lot of people I know and do one or two friends who died of
these horrible treatments that he was. I'm not gonna say he's
responsible for killing people. But this was delivered nothing.
How many yours now waiting for something. Oh, we have prep.
Unknown: Okay. I think guys no good.
Adam Curry: And the fact that we know he's no good the fact we
put so much trust in him is just irksome to me.
John C. Dvorak: Well, yeah, well he's definitely got the irksome
to Trump apparently, lets us you moan and groan about it about
the popularity of Fauci compared to to Trump himself.
Adam Curry: That's that's wrestler stuff. That's just
wrestler stuff.
You know, my MO made a good observationally
John C. Dvorak: got that gene, that's for sure. Because he was
in the WWE for all practical purposes. Yeah,
Adam Curry: Mo I don't know anything about rest. I know a
little bit but he actually on the show yesterday, he went into
a lot of the parallels between what really Trumps history with
wrestling. And when you take that into account, and really,
you don't have to focus that much. He's you know, he's
playing the he'll, he's playing the bad he'll he's got his, you
know, every single venue he goes to, for his, for his rallies,
art, our WWE venues, he goes to the same place. It's the same
show.
Unknown: When you think about it? Well,
John C. Dvorak: there is definitely a lot of showmanship
when it gives up. Unfortunately, a lot of people have not seen
any of his speech. They refuse to carry. Yeah, I would
recommend if you've never seen a Trump speech, go back and watch
one of our rally rally rally speech around rally. Yeah, it's
not a speech per se. It's more of a rally a pep rally. Yeah.
And Trump goes up during ad libs, usually about an hour or
sometimes longer. He started off short he was I think, is in
2016 2015 2016. He was he could only do about 35 minutes. Then
he got to an hour and then he didn't he rewritten the ACT
about two or three times. And it's highly entertaining. And it
gets everybody all jacked up. And it's all presented a certain
way. There's always a couple of blondes behind him wearing the
red hat and to get the big smile. You don't even know if
they're attractive, but they get this huge smile. And there's
always about three black guys right behind him too. It's it's
all staged as it's actually well done. It's always pointing does
this Mussolini look to the left to the right, usually to the
left, it looks left and his shit shoves his chin up. It looks
like Mussolini it's the best it's just unbelievable to watch
these these presentations are just so slick.
Adam Curry: Completely different from Obama but just as valid
when it comes to entertainment value
John C. Dvorak: are totally different than Obama and of
course and then after the break we'll have the our friend Biden
who took him out of the basement for one talk in a place he
didn't appear to know where he was. And we have clips of that
he's sure there's a lot of short clips on Biden I just I'm trying
to dig into Biden stuff and it's like pulling teeth because he
really doesn't do a lot he stays home is radius keep going up so
they tempt stay home stay home Joe don't come out anything
comes out and his ratings will drop a few points because people
got to see what he says which is like dumb and I don't know
Adam Curry: that is coming up. But first I'd like to thank you
for your courage and say in the morning to the man who just put
the sea in circumspect John seed track
John C. Dvorak: well in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry
and also in the morning all boots on the ground feet in the
air subs in the water and all the Dames and etc. And the
Adam Curry: big in the morning to the true room. Trolls and no
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an invite for no agenda social.com And now featuring
John C. Dvorak as a regular poster. At no agenda. social.com
Yeah, you are you are really you are everyone's Oh God about you
being there. Like what what do what John thinks? Let me tag
him. It used to be me now. Oh, yeah, John's here. Let's ask him
this good. That's no agenda social.com And in the morning to
a very apologetic.
David: Sir net Ned, who sent me an email. And
Adam Curry: in fact, this kind of showed up right after the
show after we posted it. I Adam and John. I am Sir net Ned. And
I feel horrible about the art that I did getting picked in
hindsight. And after the fact, which probably doesn't mean much
right now, I saw this art on a trash can on Etsy and was stupid
not to modify it to make it more to my own then taking the glare
out that it had on Etsy, I had no idea it was all over the
internet on mugs and bottles and whatever else. It was stupid,
please do not I did not search before I used I am very sorry.
So we take your apology, but it is a huge violation.
Unknown: A huge violation.
John C. Dvorak: Now I did do is do a search. I could not find
this.
Unknown: Interesting. But
John C. Dvorak: I would say looking at the piece, this is a
very high end piece by somebody who really knows what they're
doing. So we have to get in touch with them and then give
them a plug or something
Adam Curry: I'd like to I'd like to I'd like to, I'd like to put
the proper credit on. That's all I want. Yeah. And you know, and
as long as it's okay to use it because it is a dynamite piece.
It's just I I feel like we took a lot of credit as a group. And
we're really high five,
John C. Dvorak: I think it bothered me about it. It was
lopsided. Yes. You said that. You did.
Adam Curry: And that should have been the clue that's it was
lopsided, because it was a reproduction we both should
have. We were tired. I was trying to make the record.
Unknown: Is this is
John C. Dvorak: true. That's what happened. We haven't seen
people realize this, because this is definitely off the books
is not on the stream. But Adam has a I think there's my doing
that he has a production time. In other words, getting the show
posted. How long does it take from the end of the show the
exact end of the show to post time? Because we you know, we
just we just do it. And I would say that he broke the record
currently, which was set last week was 24 minutes and 45
seconds. Yeah, that was the show takes to produce. Well, I
Adam Curry: post produced post produce. I mean, post produce,
well produce. And that's all the way that's all the way to
posting on Twitter. Yeah. And then boom is done.
John C. Dvorak: And that's the way all podcast should be done.
Adam Curry: Yeah. If you want to do it, right. You do it like us.
Dammit.
John C. Dvorak: Now. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll figure out what to
do about this.
Adam Curry: Well, anyway, thank you. net net. Thank you for
being honest. And if anyone can track down the
John C. Dvorak: don't send stuff like that. Well, why'd you send
it in the first place is be my question.
Adam Curry: Well, please, would you re explain the rules briefly
so people understand what we're doing here?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you have to do original art or if it's
going to be derivative, it has to be a fair use. In other
words, you've had to change enough within the piece and
mocked it or done something that makes it usable if you don't
know how to do that. professional artists do don't
even think about using a somebody something you've lifted
from someplace else. No. We have this this happens about twice a
year every 100 shows and maybe two of these. We have some
issues with a piece or two. Yeah, usually don't get
published. But this one did. Yeah. Anyway,
Adam Curry: no agenda art generated.com That is where you
can upload your original art or obviously if it's under fair
uses that it is original and for intents and purposes of the show
completely appropriate. No agenda art generator.com That's
where you go check it out. And we look forward to choosing a
nice piece later on as part of our value for value network and
it's critical. These pieces get people to click it's a reminder
people like the show sometimes it's just a reminder. Oh yeah.
Oh, yeah. Now I see it there's something new there. No agenda
Archana O'Hara calm and in our value for value proposition. We
are very happy to thank a number of executive producers and
Associate Executive producers for episode 1265.
Unknown: Yes,
John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry. So good. I need that. Net. I need
to know that et Cie addresses net net is gonna have to send it
to me or send me his address. But let's thank some people for
contributing here to the show. 1265 starting with the noshed
Moser in Deutschland $390 be our top guy okay. And he says
Shalom. As an assistant in healthcare, I finally got my
Corona bonus payment from the Federal Republic of Deutschland
and sent you to over the last month have essentially assisted
me with your services to cope with the everyday insanities of
this land Demick I feel heavily obliged to share this bonus
payment with you. I believe in reaching knighthood with this
donation. So if I may see on the list.
Adam Curry: We have a couple on the list. It shouldn't have been
marked. Should have been a mark man let me check if I
John C. Dvorak: may. I would like to be knighted, as sure mo
J. Black Knight of the pan beyond the white light.
Adam Curry: He's not On the list
should we be concerned? Is there a discrepancy?
David: No. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: I just put them on the list is what I would do.
Okay. It's complicated name black is black night. Well, you
can't just call yourself a black knight.
Unknown: Hmm.
John C. Dvorak: So that's out.
Adam Curry: Well, but hold on a second
I mean, Eric is pretty good at this. I mean, that surprises me
if it was if it was a knighthood he'd market in blue and it'd be
on the list and it's not that I mean, I want to believe Janos
John C. Dvorak: well I don't see why we can't he will be a black
knight if we don't need him today.
Adam Curry: How about that? Why don't why don't we do this and
we can read his note on on Thursday it doesn't seem
completely timely at this moment. So that he might act I
don't want to just just omit his just chop his title.
Unknown: And remove the Black Knight.
John C. Dvorak: We will get and be in touch with him and we'll
figure this out keep up your great work he continues and
bless the whole tribe with the G O A T karma and with the listen
to that horn
Adam Curry: 9393 is where we got this for you. Oh my god you've
got karma and we'll take care of your notes just email us so we
can fit into this I just don't want to screw up the titles
John C. Dvorak: become anything can happen now. We do have a
theme song coming up I believe for somebody.
Adam Curry: I was this month on? Yeah. Gosh, I had almost
everything ready to go
Unknown: ladies and gentleman I present the Grand Duke of the
Pacific Northwest Swain melon song.
Adam Curry: Drain,
John C. Dvorak: checks it he said he sent in an email as a
meet up report. Did you get that?
Adam Curry: Yes. And that will be read in the let me just
double check. That will be read in the seconds. We have a lot of
media reports or lot we have several. And let me just make
sure we have that. Yes, I do have the Tigard Oregon triggered
or tiger triggered triggered. Tiger
John C. Dvorak: Ising is triggered. I don't know. It's
somewhere in Oregon. It's not here and he's Tigard
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll do it. Now since it's short. Friday
night. I had the no agenda privilege to attend the Oregon
local 33 meet up right here in Concord. Tigard fill in the
blank. We had a great evening of great conversation and
appropriately distance maskless camaraderie. About 25 people
showed up Wow. And Tim the organizer did fantastic as
usual. We had Costco hotdogs, those are dynamite. I love the
Costco hotdogs soft drinks and snacks. The high point was
playing no agenda Family Feud, which you set up Wonderful. Now
this is interesting when you set up wonderfully for example, the
top three answers in the NA host family members category were
Mimi Thea adorable and Tina the keeper. Hey, I want to know how
to play this. No agenda Family Feud, and are the other DeVore X
feuding the curries, like the McCoys. What is that? What
exactly is going on? I'd be the way it would work. Yeah, please
give us all some meet up karma and play the clip where that
angry Korean lady on it that's Tim's ringtone. Hmm, I think we
Korean lady is at the Korean. Got a little bit over here. Yes.
A newscast. Yeah. Just say and then I'll play the meetup karma.
Just let her kick in for a second here
John C. Dvorak: you've got karma. Anyway, Dwayne came with
34567 We appreciate it is a nice,
Unknown: nice number.
John C. Dvorak: Anonymous is next on the list from Lansdale,
Pennsylvania. $333. Dollars. It's been a long time since I
donate but I wanted to send you a note I've been listening since
2007. First emotional moment for me was the show 1263
flibbertigibbet with a commentary about diabetes and
insulin shots the Trump attempt to do what everyone said they
would and never did. Your thoughts are spot on and many
the first diabetic pharmacy pickup was was $4,000 cover with
my dude named Ben health package, but this raises serious
concerns. We're also blessed to have you too. Thank you. Thank
you and J and K love you guys. Please keep covering the farm up
bull crap. I'm getting submitted. I'm getting it and
I'm getting more how I'm getting more health and love out of the
listening to you, too. than any chemical could ever do
Adam Curry: what so? So he agrees
that oh, okay, so use bows I did right because he was paying
$4,000 and covered this accord he was paying 4000 Damon he was
paying $4,000 for insulin previous yeah this Yeah, yeah
Holy crap.
John C. Dvorak: It used to be like you know 20 bucks man it's
cheap to make and it's generic and I mean come on
Unknown: yeah
John C. Dvorak: Geez All right does he ever need no deals no
calm okay onward would sir codes a lot in Bethel, Pennsylvania
$333 He has a few jingles. He was new business goat karma
Trump posts Pelosi jobs jobs jobs and Obama nana na Batman
theme love song the work you gents do. It's about time I
became a an executive producer. Yes, right. Right. Some web
software development work has started to come my way as a side
gig. I like to turn it into a full time business. Anyways, I'd
like some Trump Pelosi jobs karma. I've already had double
my income for this new business. Also for my sister and her
husband. They just bought a for business. Here's an interesting
question. And possibly to my you know, Mimi's been buying you
know, especially on the West Coast. Yeah. First, there's just
no now. Yeah, so she's been buying mink coats for probably
the last 15 years. One up, and she tracked the origins of this
code. She got it for like, I don't know, it's like $100 or
something. Maybe not even that. Attractive Origins is a $10,000
code. Sure.
Adam Curry: Sure. Back in the 80s How old is it?
John C. Dvorak: I don't know. I don't know the details.
Adam Curry: That's a full that's got to be full length.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's a fish a monster. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I could not. Okay, that is something I would pay
actual money for is to see you wear the mink coat. And you got
to take a photo with a pimp hat with a pimp put it in the
newsletter. Yes, we're the feather like Huggy Bear. That
don't have the hat All right, we can provide it's all good. I
love that okay, newsletter and it's a promise I'm sorry. I
thought you were done.
John C. Dvorak: No, no finish. Oh, he continues. Here's an
interesting sir codes a lot. Here's an interesting question
and possibly to my own embarrassment. Is there a
particular finger that's used for a signet ring? No, I have
been knighted. I haven't requested my ring and it wasn't
sure it was there was a particular finger for the ring.
It's used on kindest regards. Do we have an answer to that
question?
Adam Curry: I think whichever one it fits on is pretty what
everyone goes with and I get that you
John C. Dvorak: give them the ring size Yeah, whatever ring
you want stringer you want it to probably won't fit anyway you
got to put on a different finger. I don't know that's no
idea.
Adam Curry: There is no appropriate finger and I have
also seen it used as a toe ring. So that is that is it. I can't
remember where I've seen it. No agenda night ring is a toe ring.
That's a possibility.
Unknown: jobs jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's
karma,
John C. Dvorak: business and experimental jobs karma.
Catherine McConnell's next with $250 because the first sociate
executive producer for show 12 six five in Calgary, Alberta.
We're all the money used to be loving the show. Shout out to
Diana who hit me in the mouth a few years ago first donation. AP
level she needs a D douching.
Unknown: D deuced.
John C. Dvorak: She's planning to attend a Calgary meet up on
August 2 Whizzer, Michael and the gang and she'd like to hear
stop the hammering Putin on the rich and China is asshole.
Adam Curry: Okay, I think we can do both of those requests for
you
Unknown: stop the hammering.
Blue and you don't know where there's the news. Why don't you
get job getting
John C. Dvorak: Donald Trump don't trust China.
You've got karma. Cheryl Wetzel comes up with 20 Veggie dosh in
Mount Laurel, New Jersey, your old stomping ground She sent a
note in, which is quite entertaining. I've been
listening since earlier this year and I traveled throughout
the Northeast for medical diagnosis sales, diagnostic
sales, so she's a sales woman and yet it sells gear gear. Then
COVID lab testing and sales took a huge nosedive, because
apparently all other diseases and medical conditions cease to
exist. It's over 19 began. All resources have gone to COVID
testing, nothing else matters. And every lab on the planet is
doing the testing, PCR and anti body. Most have multiple testing
platforms. There is no shortage of testing, and we are often
testing the same people multiple times.
David: Oh, crap. Business is
John C. Dvorak: getting better slowly. The real reason for my
note and donation is totally for your stay safe comments during
the show. 1262 It has been something that has irked me
since day one. Oh, here we go madness. I have been spewing
profanities about the subject while listening to the show.
When I heard John say Go f yourself as a response. I was
filled with joy and happiness. My thoughts exactly. It really
hurts these days when I hear stay safe because my daughter
was just deployed and more than anything in the world. I want
her to stay safe for all that military serving our country.
And I want it for all the military in our country to stay
safe. Do you have a Karma jingle for that? I would like I would
like to get a deed douching for my amazing fiance Mike All
right, hold on Oh see Ida
Adam Curry: Alright, so we crashed could you say again? Who
the D douching is for
John C. Dvorak: the D do Shane's for her super amazing fiance
Mike
Adam Curry: you've been de deuced
John C. Dvorak: continues with us a joint checking account he
loves your show as much as I do the check was get put their
names on his resume she says that it cake in case we needed
clarification. Anyway thanks for making some sense out of all the
craziness Cheryl Thank you Cheryl.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm I'm looking to see if I have any I
don't have a safe I don't have anything stay safe. We can just
say stay safe karma. There you go. It's well intended.
John C. Dvorak: You've got karma honor with the J Robert Appleby
Jr. in Greensburg, Pennsylvania who sent an email in very short
one. Hey guys, funny story surrounds the strange number I
will reveal in December when my wife and I reached dual Dame and
night status. Looking forward to making it after all these years
from a dude named named Bob hmm so he's established a mystery
does he
Adam Curry: need any any karma I'm gonna give him a karma and
feeling good today.
John C. Dvorak: You've got karma onward with Anonymous Goddess
$200 As we start to wrap this segment nonnamous Goddess
signing in after a successful Deutsche Bank meetup please see
me that report from Deutsche douchebag re e mail to Adam
donation is from the for listeners and oh this is a group
donation yes to tag alongs. And with that we hope thoroughly
hitting them out with our to our meetup turned into six hours
course I can do that. Yeah, a beer. So camaraderie. Thank you,
John. And for bridging the gap between culture, age and gender.
Please deduce my five meetup companions and give us a good to
be here, bro. from Dr. Fauci now. I
Adam Curry: think it means broth. Broth, broth, broth. And
actually, the meetup report is really nice. It's 45 seconds and
I think since they all pulled in and got it and Associate
Executive Producer ship. We should play it right here
Unknown: in the morning. Is the Deutsche Bank meet up with
Anonymous goddess
Adam Curry: by what she sounds a lot like Willow. I don't know if
you remember how we love this so much like my sister. Sure sounds
a lot like
Unknown: in the morning is that Deutsche Bank meet up with
Anonymous goddess in Kaiserslautern, Germany.
In the morning, John and Adam and everyone else is listening.
I'm from Ireland. My pronouns are Z's imines is recommend that
no agenda meetups website it's it's good. It's good. Check it
out. Because I didn't notice meetup near me but that was one
amazing.
We're sitting here waiting for the whole
it's not cause lander and Kaiserslautern douchebag here
but having a good time just meeting people with small
Mikulas and have a good time. All right.
Adam Curry: Good morning. Good morning. Apparently I
mispronounced The venue. I like the Irish producer, whose
pronouns are Z zoom, and what do you say z zoom and Zeus? My
pronouns are Z zoom and Zeus please. Yeah. You could just
call me Zeus for short. Thank you very much. And of course, we
have good
John C. Dvorak: to be here both.
Unknown: That's one hot growth.
John C. Dvorak: economy for y'all. You've got karma. Last on
our list your show. 1265 is James turf in Addison, Illinois.
200. And he has a short note says thanks for all you do. I
need a dose of bottled karma for use at my discretion. Keep up
the stellar work, Jim.
Adam Curry: Okay. I'll open the cord but you got Wow.
John C. Dvorak: You hear that? Yeah. To get a siphon it in
yourself.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Do you hear? Do you hear the thunder? Holy
crap. Anyway, I heard
John C. Dvorak: a boom Yeah.
Adam Curry: And that includes our our thank yous for these
executive producers and Associate Executive producers as
the show is produced by the people who put it together and
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It's much better. Thank everybody for participating that
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place let you hear the full Jim Jordan with Fauci except here.
Our formula
Unknown: is this. We go out, we hit people in
John C. Dvorak: the mouth. When it get into the Biden clips,
okay, there's a bunch of them, there's only one that's kind of
long. And the only reason is long because it's the one that
exemplifies the the, I guess, is now routine, sound gaffe
Adam Curry: from the Biden from the Biden team, or this is
John C. Dvorak: Biden in Delray, he's always in Delaware, SB,
you'll hear where he's from. But I wanted to play an intro clip,
which is Chris Wallace. i This has been produced by somebody
says a bunch of noise in the background. This is Chris
Wallace after he did his interview with Trump now moaning
that Biden won't do the interview.
Unknown: In our interview last week with President Trump, he
questioned whether his Democratic opponent Joe Biden,
could handle a similar encounter. Well, this week, we
asked the Biden campaign for an interview and they said the
former Vice President was not available. We'll keep asking
every week. The fact is, the President is out there. He sat
there in this boiling heat with me for an hour took all the
questions. You can like his answers or dislike them, but he
had he had answers. And Joe Biden hasn't faced that kind of
scrutiny. He hasn't faced that kind of exposure. You got to
feel at some point he's going to come out from the basement. I
know he's done a few few events but but pretty selected, and
oftentimes just reading from a teleprompter, he's going to have
to do be more exposed and take questions. Just as tough as the
ones I asked this president.
John C. Dvorak: So I, so I went and found the latest thing Biden
did which was, I think, the 28th. And you can see why he's
not going to ever do Chris Wallace. This is the this is
Biden opens. This is when he comes out, gets the mic and says
the first thing he says that he's got to replace run
Unknown: back in and everyone. Welcome to Kingswood community
center. Actually, that's the one down I used to work as a joke.
You know, we were anyway. So it's great to be here and back
to the place where, you know, I want to thank Wayne Jefferson
for having us here with Hicks Anderson. Center.
Adam Curry: Oh my gosh. I'd heard the first bit I hadn't
really heard the it's
John C. Dvorak: yeah, he had to dig around to try to remember
where he was. Yeah, yeah. And then played it off. Darling. I
want to thank so and so for inviting me to the dedicate
dawned on where he was because he had screwed up so bad. addley
he went into a long story about this guy Hicks went on for five
or six minutes because it just to prove that he knew he could
remember these sorts of things. That was pathetic. So we have
some I can these are all randomized, I can play just a
short five second one where he struggles to say the word
accumulate. He tries to say it twice. It really screws it up on
the first attempt and and kind of screws it up on the second.
Unknown: Many of you from families like mine, middle class
families, where do we accumulate? Where did my parents
accumulate any ability?
Adam Curry: It's a tough one with dentures to accumulate.
It's not a it's not a potential friendly word.
Unknown: No, it's not. But you can say
John C. Dvorak: it, you can say accumulate, you can slow down
and say, it's not hard to say, Okay, now we go to civil rights
leaders, this is talking about this just had to listen to these
clips are pretty much self explanatory. They're crazy.
Unknown: And it's a story of two civil rights errors we lost last
week, one who want to show us the way forward. He showed them
their separate ways.
Adam Curry: It would have been easy if he just said, I can't
tell them apart.
John C. Dvorak: You know, he says he can't even say he
doesn't say civil rights leader is just here to get something.
The word is I can't even hear this word. Let's let's lay it
again.
Unknown: There's a story of
Adam Curry: Hold on, I gotta mute because the thunders it's
very possible that the power might drop. Okay, so just be
aware of this.
Unknown: I know. It's a story of two civil rights heroes we lost
last lives.
Adam Curry: It's like civil rights or civil rights
lyricists. I think he says several as lyricist
Unknown: is the story of two civil rights heroes we lost.
Adam Curry: Okay, I mean, it is literary.
Unknown: It's a story of two civil rights heroes we lost last
week, zeroes one to one who shows the way forward, each of
them their separate ways.
Oh,
Adam Curry: this is good. Hey, if you start talking like that,
I'm pulling the plug. Okay, this, this show, and I'm sorry,
the show ends
John C. Dvorak: like that. I'm not gonna be happy.
Adam Curry: I will. I will alert you to this.
John C. Dvorak: Now he's talking now this is what I call this is
a longer clip is actually 45 seconds. This is I call it the
weird cuz this is Biden spoke to John Lewis. Apparently, before
John Lewis died. Biden spoke to him. So I maybe phoned him. I
have no idea.
Unknown: I spoke to John. Just before he died. He was on his
deathbed. And they said he could talk you wanted to talk. Instead
of answering my concerns for him. He asked about me. He asked
about us. He asked that we stay focused on the work left undone
to heal this nation to remain undaunted by the public health
crisis and the economic crisis taking the blinders off in this
crisis of and showed the systemic racism for what it is
that plagues this nation. People have seen now. Those people
allowed them to shelter in place. All those folks risking
their lives stacking the shelves in the supermarkets. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: okay. He goes off from the civil rights
movement to sheltering in place. He's just rambling. Oh, he just
really put that basically
Adam Curry: does. His whole speech is one big segue.
John C. Dvorak: Just because we weren't sure when this was not
Biden saying nothing. This is the Biden says nothing clip
Adam Curry: I got. I have a feeling that he's full of crap.
He didn't even talk to John Lewis on his deathbed.
John C. Dvorak: I believe you, right.
Adam Curry: I mean, and then he was dying, but he wanted us to
talk to me. Okay,
Unknown: this moment of crisis, understanding people's
struggles, and building a future worthy of their courage and
their ambition to overcome.
David: Yeah, uh huh. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: So he's just random here. He just says it but
nobody ever read people listened to it at these reporters. Okay,
whatever. If you actually listen to these, these little sub clips
you listen to what he's actually saying. It's just random words.
Yeah, at
Adam Curry: this point it is it's not it's not it's not
really stringing them together. But okay, just pretend. Just
pretend it's not happening. You don't actually see that. You're
crazy. There's nothing wrong. Don't report on that.
John C. Dvorak: Shorty. This is Biden's is this as x Amish
communities of color.
Adam Curry: Okay,
Unknown: in good times, communities of color. still
live. Still, what good times communities of color. still
live.
They lied.
John C. Dvorak: I have no idea what that word is. Good times to
be coming Irwin Corey, this is Irwin quarry this guy.
Unknown: Professor Irwin core
John C. Dvorak: is a comedian who did double talk and made up
words and, and stumbled his way through bluffing his way through
these lectures, these comedic lectures. And this is exactly
what Biden sounds like he has these words like, what is that
Adam Curry: word? The Universal consensus is lag, lag la G we'll
listen again
Unknown: in good times communities of color. Still lie?
Whoa,
Adam Curry: I actually felt that 130 It
John C. Dvorak: was great.
Adam Curry: I'm gonna leave it open.
John C. Dvorak: I'll leave it open
Adam Curry: still. Communities of Color, whatever.
John C. Dvorak: I don't think so. Now he did get take a couple
of questions that were dumb. And they were soft balls and they
were done by the media trying to make him look good. And they
kept this course to get this whole thing in under wraps for
trying to find a copy took me a while. So here is a here's one
of the reporters I think this is from I think she's from NBC This
is meet face to face question that we will
Unknown: you get to meet with him in person do you think? Will
you be able to meet with him face to face? What we'll see?
You're gonna have to wear masks.
They will have to wear masks? Will you get tested? Do
you think if you have to do that, for COVID?
I'm not prepared to say much.
Adam Curry: All right. So this is probably the best clip you
have. This shows. This is I have spoken to my great grandmother,
my one of my grandfather's and they sound like this at the end.
And listen how she's speaking. She's speaking like she's
talking to a very old feeble person. Listen again. But me
will you get to me with a person do you think it was? Do you
think it's we get when you talk to old people who are crumbling,
you have to be kind of sweet and sickly. That's just it's what
you do?
John C. Dvorak: Well, I went I'm sorry. I didn't notice this. But
I think they all did that. Like I'll be talking to you. You're
in 90 and the young girl reporters say, are you okay? Are
you going to wear masks? Yes.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no. She said, you know, you'll have to
wear mask, right, grandpa? You know, you'll have to
Unknown: listen. Will you get to meet with him in person? Do you
think?
Adam Curry: Will you get to meet your grandson and great grandson
in person? Do you think well?
Unknown: Will you be able to meet with him face to face? What
we'll see.
You're gonna have to wear masks, you're gonna have to wear masks.
John C. Dvorak: You know, if you're also going to take it to
that extreme. When she asked that initial question. He goes,
he leans toward her and goes, what? Yeah, repeat it. I think I
only got the repeating party.
Adam Curry: He needs what he means all those horns in his
ear.
John C. Dvorak: He needs a horn in his ear. It's exactly what he
needs. So she followed up with one more question. Have you ever
been tested for COVID? And he admitted that he's yet to be
tested even once? Well, he
Adam Curry: didn't even really say that. I think I mean, no,
no, she
John C. Dvorak: asked again. I'm not prepared to say much not on
this clip. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. All right. I'm
just telling you what I did. I did not put Oh, so he's never
been tested? No. And he said it again. He still hasn't been
tested. And this is the 28th of July. It's an ear
Adam Curry: trumpet. I'm reliably informed on trumpet
says what do you need to hear trumpet.
John C. Dvorak: So I have the last of the let go first before
I play the end clip. But this is $1. And it is best clip. But not
the best but the end of the whole thing because he makes a
very interesting oh man comment at the end. But let's listen to
the debt. This is a long clip. It's two minutes. You don't have
to listen to the whole thing. But this is the classic Biden
clip where something goes You should listen to at least a
little bit because you start yakking This is the clip where
they somebody flips the switch or pulls the plug or puts the
wrong plug in the right thing right in the middle of a speech.
This happens
Unknown: when a house is an asset that helps build equity
and wealth. The homeownership disparity denies equal
opportunity. My housing plan is going to be a major contributing
50 Shut the door. first time homebuyer tax credit.
Adam Curry: That's, that's someone who's testing a mic and
opened it up thinking it was pre fader and it's just they just
opened it up isn't that's, that's the beat team again that
they always send with Joe.
Unknown: And now they start talking.
Which means they know once the deal is true, they will get paid
the down payment. Expanding affordable housing. Reversing
Trump's efforts to Fair Housing enforcement now trying to scare
the hell out change these rules and divide the President put
through
Adam Curry: wow this is this is the final the final audio they
had
John C. Dvorak: Yeah is the one that went out.
Adam Curry: Oh my God now a splattering
Unknown: black news next to scare people remove the battery.
Adam Curry: Oh my gosh, so many Americans
Unknown: color pathway often after another Wow,
Adam Curry: what's another minute of that? Just like that
two minutes. Oh, wow, I thought it was gonna come back. I'm
like, okay, something good here. But that's the whole Archie's
John C. Dvorak: and they're yakking in the background
talking about some I know somebody flipped his I don't
know what happened. But why is it? Why did it happen at all?
Well, who is anyone monitoring? I don't think anyone's even
monitoring him at all. They're not listening. There's no
headphones, there's no supervising an audio engineer
listening in to make sure this stuff is not screwed up that he
can fix. They just lie you guys boring anyway, who gives a shit?
And I'll say, I'll say he feels the same way. And this is the I
call this the end the clip and Wait, does he say as he walks
off the
Unknown: podium, okay.
Anyway, thank you so much. Appreciate the time, and I'm
getting out of your hair. Thank you.
Adam Curry: I'm getting out of your hair.
Unknown: Yeah. Kind of
John C. Dvorak: an end to the speeches. I'm getting out of
your hair. That's how winners talk.
Adam Curry: Winners talk like that.
In today's world, where this Okay, let's just I want to go
back to the audio for a second.
At the Ellen Show, where people are in high end production mode
the way television has been, certainly, since I've done it,
and that that's 1984
it's brusque, it's not always friendly. But that doesn't
happen.
Because it'll there's, there's people checking and it's
professional. These are people who are, you know, probably
complain about hey, man, don't be so mean to me. Okay. Sorry
about the mic. What could I do? It's not a professional outfit.
And it's probably his, if he can't even get this right after
months. Just imagine how well the country is going to run.
John C. Dvorak: Endless show material.
Adam Curry: Now did him at all mention his campaign, his
campaign, his platform that he's running on today? Was there
anything about
John C. Dvorak: his kind of skin? You know, he kind of came
in and out of some of the things he wants to do. It wasn't you
know, exciting. It's hard to isolate. Well, it's built back
Ramboll they went to nine hours and rambling for an hour. Wow,
blah, blah. Let me get out of your hair. All right. Let
Adam Curry: me let me help him. Let me help him. His his
campaign is they've changed it now. From no malarkey to Joe can
do it to build back better. Again, it's a winner and the
builds back better consists of four points mobilized American
manufacturing innovation to ensure the future is made in
America thanks. And mobilize American ingenuity to build a
modern infrastructure and equitable clean energy future.
Three mobilize American talent to build a 21st century
caregiving education workforce to help ease with the burden of
caring for everybody, and mobilized across the board to
advance racial equity in America. That's really his build
back better, build back better, build back better build back
better. I was watching the United Nations feed as I often
do to find out what the elites are up to. The Secretary General
Antonio Guterres came on I think this was this may be from
Thursday and while he discussed his plan,
Unknown: but the COVID 19 pandemic can also be a moment
for resolving long standing conflicts and addressing
structural weaknesses. Four sets of priorities can guide response
to build back better and achieve the sustainable development
goals
Adam Curry: and flashed on screen build back better. Okay,
so it's the it's the same campaign as the United Nations
stay tuned. There's more.
Unknown: First, immediate version it measures to slow the
spread of the disease and conflict and meet the urgent
needs of the most vulnerable. Secondary mass deeper efforts
with resin equalities by investing in universal health
and education. Okay, sounds familiar floors and technology.
The region is home to the world's largest gender gap in
human development equity. COVID-19 recovery is an
opportunity to invest in women and girls ensure equal rights
and participation, which will have lasting benefits for all
surds boosting the economic recovery. Throughout reimagining
the region's economic model in favor of more diversified green
economies, green means creating this sense sustainable jobs,
introducing progressive taxation measures, ending fossil fuel
subsidies, and taking greater account of climate risks. Now is
the moment to prioritize human rights ensured a vibrant civil
society and free media and create more accountable
institutions that will increase citizens trust and strengthen
the social contract. All of these steps are pivotal to
helping the Arab region build back better.
Adam Curry: It's the same it's the United Nations plan. It's
even named the same build back better. It's the four basic same
points.
Now if if a
podcasters are finding out why but podcasts are in Texas can do
this,
and we should be making bank. But no, unbelievable.
John C. Dvorak: Why do they have one last little Biden tidbit?
Because he does. We don't get to catch these. These are all
local. You have to go to local affiliates to catch these. These
little interviews he does on the local channels around the
country and he had some in the basement. But here's one I don't
know when this came from, but he's doing an interview with
some guy and Biden thinks his mics off he said something
disparaging. And then his handler at the other end cuts
him off and tells the interviewer that easy sorry,
this they Me Me, me, me me. This is Biden irked with the
interviewer cut off clip, you wear
Unknown: the mask so you don't make somebody else
sick. I want to sync
with this guy.
That's our time.
Adam Curry: Ladies and gentlemen, your president your
next. theory very normal. It's great. Nothing to see here.
Everything's normal. We're all good and Mirka so good.
Goodness. You promised you promised. promised us news on
Epstein.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Well, you know, I've got the Epstein
papers. I got the 2000 Pager. There's Yeah, less redactions.
Nobody has a few actually. And I've got been going through them
and I can't say much I do have a clip of somebody. This is say
gar. This is a long clip. But they're now getting harder to
clip say gar and K ball because they're too wordy. But let's
listen to their little take away from the Epstein This is Sager
on Epstein docks,
Unknown: some breaking news this morning, late last night, some
of the Epstein documents were unsealed by a judge now
Adam Curry: these days before you go in and do they mentioned
that the some of these documents were redacted, but that they
redacted them in the wrong way. So you could basically just get
the PDF copy paste into a notepad and all the redactions
went away. Well, there
John C. Dvorak: okay, here's a couple, a little background on
this. So there was a number of feeds to get various copies of
this. There was a short version, the one you want is the
Adam Curry: 2000 pay. Yeah, it's in the show notes, by the way,
huge in the shownotes.
John C. Dvorak: And that you have to get from the show notes.
Mega the show notes New Zealand. It's the operation that was
stolen from the Megaupload guy. And they have it is pretty much
already not redacted. I have gotten a couple of copies of
different other files that supposedly you can do that that
trick they talked about I have never been able to execute. I
think that is bullshit. Unless somebody has done it. I don't
believe it. I think that's just bullshit. It wasn't redacted
improperly. It was just this bullshit. You're you're saying
bullshit. All of these unless somebody has shown it can do it
and show me a copy in that I can work with it's not happening.
You're saying bullshit. The fact is the main 2000. Page one has
got very few redactions is almost none until you get to the
appendix is they still keep the John Doe Jane Doe stuff going
on. That's really where the problem is figuring out who
those people are, because that's almost impossible. I will say
this for about the about the documents in general, and the
and K ball and say God don't really talk about this. Trump
has mentioned in there quite a bit, two or three times I went
through it luckily
Adam Curry: as well. He's he's he's worked he's mentioned as as
not having done anything and nothing,
John C. Dvorak: not having done anything but floating around and
my my favorite one is somebody grilling one. I think it was
gouffre was Donald Trump. Donald Trump, a good friend with
Jeffrey Epstein's in the match, I should get this and put it in
the newsletter because it's pretty funny. She says, Well,
Jeffrey says I've never seen that two of them together.
Exactly.
Adam Curry: Well, we there's photographic evidence of that,
but probably more than
John C. Dvorak: just photographic evidence of
everything. Yeah. In terms because those both Epstein and
just labor to having their enchiladas Trump they're always
having their picture taken with somebody that doesn't mean you
know them photographic evidence to have us have a canned shot,
which is, you know, a pose shot with somebody who's smiling and
you're smiling and I take a photo that to me is evidence of
nothing. You know, so I can't imagine how many people Obama's
got a picture with. It doesn't really mean much.
Adam Curry: Well, there's also no photographic evidence of us
together in the same photo. So yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Back to this good reason, though. We're
circumspect Redman valid. The point is, is that Trump's really
came out smelling like a rose Dershowitz. Kind of dirty hands.
Not sure. Darsh was, it looks like Trump and dirt were the two
guys who approve the letting this thing slide or Sure, which
now Dershowitz petition
Adam Curry: for this. He wanted this out so we could clear his
lawsuit in mind. Let me explain what's happened. Let me explain.
He was on Court TV, you're not hearing us? Can you hear me at
all? No, you can't hear me.
John C. Dvorak: I heard you that time.
Adam Curry: I've been trying to get a word in for a while. He
was Dershowitz who actually worked with CERN of its CERN,
which to get these out, because there's a date in there when or
dates apparently, when Dershowitz would have been there
and had sex with multiple of the girls as the document state. But
he wanted that out desperately so that he could say, Hmm,
that's wrong, because I was in California or some other place
where it was right. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: he did. Yeah, it was just shut up.
Adam Curry: So that's why these documents came out. That's,
that's the main reason I've looked through them. I mean, did
you find anything super damning other than the implications of
everything?
John C. Dvorak: I thought the Clinton stuff was kind of
negative.
Adam Curry: It's not positive. Okay. But you know, it's it to
me. And I'm not entirely done with it. It's like okay, a lot
of this information was known a lot of it we've already heard
about.
John C. Dvorak: That's what say gar and Kaos says yes, none of
this is new. Especially since that woman in Australia and they
were all the other some of the women that are complaining about
about it all. Yeah. The what is interesting is it's obvious that
just laying or as Tucker Carlson said on one of his shows, he
says, we learned that her name is pronounced Glen.
Unknown: Oh, please
Adam Curry: do what he said. Guilin, Guilin. Healin not Glen
he, he
John C. Dvorak: Ladyland whatever Yeah,
Unknown: she is a liar.
John C. Dvorak: That's what we learned. And I don't know what's
gonna come out of this but it's kind of interesting even get a
copy of it. I'd recommend it you can. You can do if you get the
big the big document the 2000 page one. You can search a PDF
and you can search for Trump. You can search for clean, you
can search for whoever you want to search for, and you can get
some some tidbits out of it. But let's listen to what cigar and
cable have to say
Adam Curry: some breaking news this morning. Late last night.
Some of the Epstein documents were unsealed by a judge now
these documents in particular stemmed from a deposition given
by Virginia Gu Frey, who is a high profile accuser of Jeffrey
Epstein and of Glenn Maxwell. Many of you might remember her
from her accusations against Prince Andrew and she's a highly
credible person witness and we've seen some of her
interviews on camera. She sued Glenn Maxwell back in 2015.
These documents stem from that and they show definitively that
Glenn Maxwell has lied under oath in the court her lawyers
have blatantly lied, right let's leave right with that very first
accusation which are not even accusation, that proof, which is
that from that deposition from that case, this is an email
between Jeffrey Epstein Glenn Maxwell, January 21 2015. Now,
her lawyers have already said in her bail memo that 20 days ago,
just 20 days ago, she had not communicated with Mr. Epstein in
over a decade. So right off the bat crystal blatant lie in the
court of law. That's what we already know. Absolutely.
Unknown: And the details here are pretty chilling, too.
Adam Curry: I love the little Junior Junior junior lawyers
here of your rival Absolutely. Oh, we checked all that out.
It's just completely off the hook. It's not good. Great.
Well, let's look into the
Unknown: Epstein coaching her
John C. Dvorak: second, so I get a kick out of the technology.
He's kind of a right winger she's kind of a left winger, but
she uses left wing code. Yeah, and and the two code words are
telling and chilling. Yes, those if you hear those words, yeah,
rarely come out of it. Have a person leaning right is almost
always just like code word. It's it as a journalist it's code for
Hey, I'm a lefty just 20
Adam Curry: days ago she had not communicated with Mr. Epstein in
over a decade so right off the bat crystal blatant lie in the
court of law that's what we already know absolutely.
Unknown: detail here pretty chilling to you have Epstein
coaching her so that backup that's what that email is
coaching her on how to say, you know that these are all lies and
untrue, completely untrue that she's been smeared and
innuendos, slander defamation, salacious lies all that stuff.
And then he goes on to say you've done nothing wrong, hold
your head up high. go to parties get over it is basically what he
says. So, again, the real bombshell here the fact that the
two were very clearly in communication, yes. And that is
firing and can feed these charges. Absolutely. And that
goes directly against what Maxwell's lawyers have been
representing here. But wait, there's so much more some
Adam Curry: other stuff. And a lot of this was known. We didn't
have the full documents. We knew that Virginia gouffre had made
this accusation but this one is about Bill Clinton. And again,
this is a total bombshell. So let's throw that up there on the
screen. And look, according to this interview,
wait a minute, this is not a total bombshell. What is the
John C. Dvorak: total? You're talking to preaching to the
choir? I don't get it.
Adam Curry: And what Oh, how about this? How about this? How
about this?
John C. Dvorak: These he admits himself that they knew all this
anyway,
Adam Curry: these two and I liked them in general. They're
too young to think of them. They never they never read the Star
Report. Now that now that was a bombshell when the star report
came out. And we read about the sea gar Oh, man, that was a
report children. This is just This is baby stuff
didn't have the full documents. We knew that Virginia gouffre
had made this accusation but this one is about Bill Clinton.
And again, this is a total bombshell. So let's throw up
there on the screen and look, according to Epstein's island
with Epstein Maxwell and quote to young girls. Now, there's no
allegation here of sexual impropriety. President Clinton
has denied on numerous occasions that he was ever on this little
St. Jeffrey's I think is what it was called that island. In the
Virgin Islands. It was Oh by Jeffrey little St. Jeff,
remember that from that Netflix documentary with many of its
flaws as Jeffries
John C. Dvorak: is the name of something else. This
Adam Curry: little St. John's is the name of the island this
little St. Jeffrey's this guy is thinking a little St. Jeffrey
at that interview with the IT technician for Jeffrey Epstein,
who said somewhere between I think was the 90s and 2005. So
as assumption is after Clinton left office and he was seen just
hanging out with Epstein, on the veranda on Epstein's favorite
part of the island. Wow,
bombshell.
bombshell. get over yourselves children. That's not bombshell.
John C. Dvorak: It's a firecracker. firecracker.
Adam Curry: I did. You know you asked me or whether we talked
about Trump saying Well, I wish her well. About Glenn. Glenn.
John C. Dvorak: Yes. Got everybody all bent out of shape.
Well,
Adam Curry: this is kind of the kiss of death. When Trump says
that to you. Here's a little coffee Lodge, they're going
Unknown: to be consequences when they want to leave. I wish him
well. I always say enjoy your new plant. Enjoy the very hot
weather. We certainly wish him well. It's a obviously tough
time. For him. I wouldn't say she's exactly on my side. But I
wish her well. I was not happy with him. But I wish him well. I
just don't think he'd be a very good candidate. I mean, we'll
see what happens. I hope you know, I wish him well. I wish
you well, but I'd like you to submit your resignation. He had
the worst ratings on Fox. So there's a reason well, I wish
him well. And a very good relationship with them. I
wouldn't. You know, I can only say this. I wish them well. I
just wish her well frankly. I've met her numerous times over the
years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach and I guess they
lived in Palm Beach. But I wish her well.
John C. Dvorak: Who did that one?
Adam Curry: That's someone's send it to me. But very good.
Yeah, one of
John C. Dvorak: the kiss of death. It's just like the mafia.
Giving you a big kiss on the cheeks and then the other cheek
then on the lips. You're gonna be shot that night.
I'm gonna show my
Unknown: mood by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
John C. Dvorak: yes, indeed, we do have a few people to thank
for show 1265 Starting with Christopher Flynn in Oakdale,
Connecticut, he's got a birthday coming up since his long note
for some reason. Is there anything in here yeah, yes. It's
about his daughter's gonna be one.
Adam Curry: Yes to Well,
I just want to I want to read iterate that full notes are only
guaranteed to be read at 200 and above Associate Executive
producer or executive
John C. Dvorak: to be written notes all day we read to you
know, it's already lengthy Yeah, so,
Adam Curry: but she is on the list and let me get her know my
daughter will be one year old August 2. I've been listening
for 60 years made a few $50 donations where I could but have
not even begun to make good on the value of receive. Thanks for
your podcast. Thank you very much appreciated Christopher.
She's on the list.
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John C. Dvorak: Cassia Grizz laka Perkins, Pennsylvania
there's a town named effort.
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Adam Curry: And we need to pause at his note, as he I believe
will be knighted. Does he get an upgrade? Let's see karma works
couple of months back asked for jobs calm before an interview.
Not only did I get the job with a major cloud provider, but they
offered me a better job than what I applied for. This
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not only call out her birthday August 5, which we'll do, but
add her to the round table as Dame butterflies this donation
Oh, okay. As deemed butterfly as this donation brings us over the
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her Dame ceremony and a double shot of random Sharpton clips
since those are favorites. Yes, we'll get those at the end for
you. And we'll put that at the roundtable and thank you very
much for your courage, sir. Calista I think
John C. Dvorak: Moscato Moscato is sparkling Italian sweet sweet
ish wine and Maryland crab would be absolutely tasty.
Adam Curry: Well, why don't you join us at the roundtable then
today?
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Adam Curry: Douglas. Yeah, he reached his knighthood he says
started listening after being hit in the mouth about the
Bataclan shooting in 2015. I haven't missed an episode since
thanks to Cody and Matt request Percocet and Camel cigarettes.
That is a unique request for the roundtable but we
John C. Dvorak: can't wait we gotta go back to our anonymous
Minnesota $99 donor because she needs a D douching.
Unknown: You've been D deuced.
Alright, sorry about that. She
John C. Dvorak: her boyfriend was got hit in the mouth by
Rogen show. Douglas angstrom 9386 on this what we just did
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Adam Curry: Certainly sir Marco. Yes, I definitely listened
Excellent. lately. What does he say? Excellent. Show he doesn't
talk like that. Thanks for finding the truth. Here's my
early boob donation. Remember all boobs matter? And if you
don't agree you're a fastest and a misogynist.
John C. Dvorak: I agree with that. We totally sure Antonio in
Madrid, Spain. All right. He needs some health karma. We'll
give you that at the end. 808 forgot Nate and Sebastopol,
California 6969 Mark Fulton in Charlotte North Carolina 60 to
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should you 510 Is that a birthday shout out to his
brother Steven. Sir Tom Dari and de force Wisconsin double
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the dime from Fred was for Frederick's
Adam Curry: Yeah, I haven't heard from her even a long time.
Good. Good. He's still around. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: I when I saw his name, I was surprised. Sure Doom
ignited the Black Swamp in Holland on Ohio. Asking for jobs
karma will give you some at the end is apparently he's having
trouble. Benjamin house and in Humboldt, Saskatchewan 50. These
are all $50 donors. There's one note I do have to read. But
let's read them name and location till I get to the note
which is Alexei, aka chef is some parts unknown James Johnson
and Seattle, Douglas angstrom Andrew oxen ham in Knoxville,
Tennessee, Michael Janeski and lindora Pennsylvania. Bradley
leaden in Parts Unknown Bryan Watson I do have a note from Sir
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San Francisco, Ralph Johnson in Lake Isabella, California, sir
Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City and let's get back to the callee
flat smacker wrote a handwritten note and it needs some. I don't
know if I can get through it, but we'll try. And normally
don't read these but they're handwritten I will tend to read
them. As you may or may have noticed, I mailed this donation
with a two cent stamp. intriguing, and I look. Yes, I
learned how you do this while trying to debunk the Flat Earth
Theory. I was hearing a lot about the so called Flat Earth
movement and just assume these people must have bats in the
belfry while searching on YouTube. Pre censorship of
course, I stumbled upon a channel known as Jaren NISM
Jaren ism, je r a n ifsm. It was there that I discovered how to
mail a letter for two cents. His other videos also convinced me
that the earth is indeed a flat and stationary plane. Not a
planet
Adam Curry: plane. Any flat I have a question. I want to
understand about the mailing a letter for two cents that's
possible.
John C. Dvorak: Well, this letter came and it was that a
two cent stamp on it? I'd like to learn about that. Well, I'm
guessing that the way it's done nowadays because everything's a
forever stamp, that pretty much any stamp will get get you
there. That's it. There you go.
Adam Curry: That's what I'm thinking.
John C. Dvorak: That's what I'm thinking I don't know maybe
there's some code on the stamp or this. You want
Adam Curry: to know that's a big savings a two to two cent stamp
is a big difference from a forever stamp.
John C. Dvorak: Say 50 cents is what they caused, as any flat
earther will tell you referring to our realm as a globe is off
putting we cringe when we hear podcasts or use phrases such as
Adam Curry: around the globe.
John C. Dvorak: In order not to alienate your flat Earth
listeners. Could you please say something neutral such as
worldwide instead of planet say realm? Stop
Adam Curry: stop No Stop stop stop for a second stop.
Who is this? Who wrote this note?
John C. Dvorak: He sent a note with a two cent stamp of no
return address and the callee flats
Adam Curry: well Kelly flat smacker I am very surprised you
use your privilege to assume that I'm not a flat earther
John C. Dvorak: I'm surprised myself anyway he goes on let me
finish I've said my piece long lived Flat Earth Don't be the
last to find out your friend and listener that Callie flats MACRA
PS if you felt this donation is worth de douching I will take
one piece now he has one little last little note space is fake.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Well, whatever it is, the dragon next
just fell out of it and splashed into the into the ocean. So
whatever that gets they dropped it from the rafters. But it's it
came down.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I thought that was Oh no, no worries
waiting
Adam Curry: for sure. I have one donation which is necessary to
read get your noisemakers ready. This is from James from the
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donating $11.11 a month. And I have now just upped it for one
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But right now I am officially a Knight of the no agenda
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didn't get to today. And we have some meetups to talk about.
Just like a party reports from April and Chester that Minnesota
meetup gence. The small amigos of Minnesota meetup was a
success with perfect weather and exemplary company. It was nice
to shake hands and share food with people in the land of
lockdowns. Here's to more meetups with Minnesotans with
Minnesotan thought criminals, April and Chester we also had a
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Unknown: all right. This is the new agenda. What's going on?
This is Brandon aka the Negro the Northeast. Once again be on
the lookout for my new book Black fragility.
John C. Dvorak: Hey, sir, now still here, fighting the
hurricane winds at the Boston meetup. Stay safe.
Unknown: Surgeon here in the morning.
Adam Curry: This is JJ random.
Unknown: News. We knew we don't know what to say. Jessica joy
coming in. And in the morning thank you Adam and John for
everything that you do and also Mofaz is awesome. This is Sir
Nathan Lee Miller foster Kayla GOOD NIGHT OF THE WHITE lodge
who are going to go higher mountain tall Queen directory
and millstone on the barrow sort of resort reforest or whatever
the last one is. Stick the landing. Thank you so much. And
in the morning
Adam Curry: if we ever keel over we've got a replacement right
there obviously. Absolutely. Sounds like a lot of fun those
guys and I love the diversity. This is what these no agenda
meetups are about. And you can say how you feel how you feel
about your the things I just heard and that could not be sent
into your typical public setting. Yet here we are
broadcasting it all across the flatland practicing it so
everybody had the realm everybody gets to be clumsy.
That's what's great about it. A report from Denver.
Unknown: Hello, Gitmo nation. This is the city park sit in
meet up for the second ever time. And it's been a great one.
I'm gonna pass the mic around.
This is Matt in the morning. This is Jim just happy to be
here enjoying our coordinated furlough from Gitmo nation
loving light. Hey, Paul from Greeley rock on.
This is Tom this mitos been pretty good. This is Colin. I
just want to say that the best part of waking up is fluoride in
my cups. This is Taylor aka tacos and I can't wait for the
next one.
I guess you could say we've given each other the whole load
today. Yeah,
Adam Curry: okay.
Yes, no agenda meetups. We have a couple scheduled I want to
mention Calgary on Saturday, Sunday. That's today. So I guess
that's already started. So Michael of Calgary in Vegas.
We'll see if we get a meet up report from them. this coming
Saturday grant pass Oregon at one o'clock at the weekend beer
company. Also on Saturday, the Kiama blowhole safety check.
That is 1pm. Ozzie Eastern Standard Time, so I think that's
probably Wednesday here. That'll be Saturday at the hungry monkey
cafe and Khaimah Khaimah, New South Wales Australia Sir Kevin
protector of the Khaimah blowhole will be hosting that
make sense. Also on Saturday, Three Mile Island evac zone
meeting number four 3:33pm Sir 737 is organizing Pittsburgh PA
on Saturday, river view Park. Mr. bloomer is your organizer
and also on Saturday. Toronto 2pm. Meet at the annex area.
Annex area? I guess that is correct. Nick Solak. Us is
hosting. And I have here a special note from the back
office March 6 2021. Okay, the Dallas area Texas fly fishing
and brew festival first 20 people to connect to connect Tim
will get a ticket details that no agenda meetups.com All right.
And as always, if you want to attend a meet up, go to no
agenda meetups.com. Look around. There's all kinds of ways to
find your people in your area. And if not, the recommendation
is go ahead make one of your own. They're fun. You get to be
clumsy. It's the no agenda meetups.
John C. Dvorak: Sometimes you want to go hang out with the all
the nights and days you will be triggered. You want to be
everybody feels the same?
Unknown: Like a potty. It's like a bar.
Adam Curry: No rights. What else? We got a couple of things.
Yes, good. First of all, let's
John C. Dvorak: I this is what I wanted to put together. This was
on CNN, they were talking about the polls and the Democrats are
getting very cocky about a lot of stuff. So we have here, one
of the typical CNN guys and some guests, and they're going on and
analyzing the polls because Trump's have even though we
haven't seen Biden do anything, but he still keeps getting
better and better. And here's the poll CNN polls analysis.
Part one.
Yeah, you hit it right on, John. So you know, if you look at the
Quinnipiac University poll that was out yesterday, you saw that
by former Vice President Joe Biden was up by 13 points, and
over 50%. Now compare that to the Quinnipiac University poll
that came out at this exact same point back in 2016. What you
see, you saw that Hillary Clinton was actually trailing in
the state by five and not even close to 50%. So the fact is,
when you're looking at the poll numbers, like down in Florida,
you just see that the former Vice President is in a
significantly better position than Clinton was at
Unknown: this point. And how does this connect or relate to
what we're seeing in the rest of the country?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is so important. You know, three Fox
News polls came out yesterday from Minnesota, Michigan, and
Pennsylvania. And what you see there is, again, large leads for
the former vice president up by nine points, or even more, you
know, up by 13 points in Minnesota state that the
Republicans want to flip doesn't look like at this point. And if
you look at the polling averages across the country, and you
said, Okay, if the polling averages hold and the election
were held today, and the winner in each state was the winner,
who was leading in the polling averages, what do you see, you
see that former Vice President Joe Biden would win 352
electoral votes, it would not be close at this particular point.
Of course, we still have a little bit more than 100 days to
go. So
Unknown: we'll have to see what happens to
Adam Curry: these the the in general, I just did we not? I
mean, I know they're talking about it, but then we just
learned that it's, there's no way to really know. And these
polls are just not typically, right.
John C. Dvorak: What it makes you feel good, though. You're a
Democrat. And you hate Trump. Yeah. Which is kind of
redundant. It goes hand in hand. Yeah. This is the stuff you want
to watch, because it just makes you feel good. You feel a lot
better about life. Let's go to clip two. So
oftentimes, the polls tell you what is happening and you have
to search deep down inside to figure out why the why here this
morning, Harry is no mystery. It is screaming out loud.
Yeah, you know, sometimes there's some real mysteries.
There's not in this particular case. Look at this the most
important issues according to the most recent national Fox
News poll, Corona virus 29% nearly doubled the percentage of
the economy. This is going to be one of those elections that's
determined by a non economic issue. And what's so important
is that who is leading on that particular issue of the
Coronavirus who is more trusted. It's the former vice Prez And
overwhelmingly, and not only is it that the former Vice
President is leading overwhelmingly that lead is
expanding on the issue, which I think goes right to the heart of
the issue of why the former vice president's lead is expanding
overall, it's because voters are not liking the President's
response to the corona virus.
Adam Curry: It's time to remind everybody that the polls are
really used for one reason, and one reason only is to make the
television show more exciting. So and to worry, different sides
of the political spectrum to spend more money.
John C. Dvorak: Yep. And it's the spend more money that's
doing well. So you frightened the crap out of the Trump side,
and they started spending more money and it's opposed. You
know, you'd notice a Biden guys getting lazy, they're not
spending enough money, all of a sudden, Trump jumps into the
lead. So here comes the Biden money, Biden money comes in,
okay, here it comes back. And now they're both spending, same
amount of money, but they're not spending enough. You're jacking
them up. So this is really what it's about. But, you know, we
still like to listen to these because nobody seems to want to
understand that simple mechanism. So we play these
things. So you can play we'll play these again in a year. No
clips. To show you how wrong these guys are on this play. The
last one is clip three.
Now I think all the polls that have come out are most
interesting because of what they tell us about where things are
today and how they perhaps explain the public perception of
how the President has handled Coronavirus. But if you were to
look forward and project forward to November and what might
happen, then what is the one number that jumps out to you
this morning as being the most telling?
Yeah, you know, the President's approval rating, his net
approval rating. That's his approval rating minus his
disapproval rating. And what you see as the President is very
much underwater with a minus 15 percentage point net approval
rating. Now go back over time, look at all the incumbents who
are running for another term since 1940. What you see is that
the presidents who ended up not getting that second term, or
that fourth term in the case of are getting in the FBR. You see
that those presidents had a minus 14 percentage point net
approval rating, he looks a lot more like the losers than he
does like the winners. Those winners had a plus 23 point net
approval rating. He simply put is not anywhere close to them.
He looks a lot more like the losers and the winners again, we
have time to go but this is not a good place for the incumbent
president to be at this. Oh, brother. Oh, man.
That's pretty. Adopting my my.
Adam Curry: Well, someone Someone has to someone has to
take the baton eventually. I use it a lot. You're right. Yeah,
it's really good. It is catchy. That'll do it. There's a lot
more to deconstruct buttons. We'll just have to wait until
Thursday because I'm sure more will come up in the interim.
We'll put it all together, put a bow around it and spew it all
over you through the podcast. We have the grumpy old Ben's coming
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They'll spill over to a Thursday rat granddad rat track and Jesse
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till then adios. Oh photos, such
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all the glory
What is justice? Who can we prosecute for those deaths?
Nobody? Nobody? Mother Nature god Where did this virus come
from? People are going to die by this virus. That is the truth
older people vulnerable people are going to die from this virus
we can't keep everyone
will still want to be there with you
take in
my mask Are
you ready for the truth
okay but they know not what they do
Adam Curry: that's very odd. I'm not sure why he wants to
John C. Dvorak: point to MSA and various various various areas
larious there is various
Adam Curry: ways to very awkward I'm not sure why he weighs 2.5
John C. Dvorak: Serious that's very serious this very hilarious
voice larious
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tragic true life story of the men known as The Three Stooges
Dershowitz, she again is accusing him of having committed
sexual action against minors.
President Clinton has denied on numerous occasions that he was
ever on that island that was owned by Jeffrey Epstein.
That is Prince Andrew with his arm wrapped around Virginia
girlfriend when she is only a teenager.
She was very specific about that night she described dancing with
you and you profusely sweating and that she went on to have
a slight problem with this wrestler because I have a
peculiar motivation which is that I don't sweat well. I
didn't sweat at the time. White guy.
Oh my neck.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman. And I
experimented with one at a time and I didn't like it. And then
you have no right not to vaccinate. You have no right not
to wear a mask. You have no right to open up your business
no right to be vaccinated meaning if they decide we have
to be vaccinated we have to be vaccinated
and if you refuse to be vaccinated the state as our
literally take you to a doctor's office and plunge a needle into
your arm I can't do I think when I'm you tried shot
Adam Curry: mopho.org/in A doing live I can go write it and we'll
do it live.