John C. Dvorak: Only outlaws wear neck gators.
Unknown: Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak
Adam Curry: July 26 2020. This is your award winning gitmo
nation media assassination episode 1263
Unknown: This is no agenda.
Adam Curry: under Chinese attack and broadcasting live from
opportunity's own 33 Here in the frontier of Austin, Texas
capital of the drone Star State. In the morning, everybody. I am
Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where
today's word of the day is Yummers. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Unknown: Crackpot and Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: But before we get to being under Chinese attack,
before we talk about the word of the day, we have an economic
Zephyr car report.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, Zephyr went by just before we started the
show. And it had eight normal cars and then two attached
private cars to not one and one of them I have never seen
before. It looks like an old Great Northern green. It was
green with a big vistadome Big almost the end to end a
beautiful car. And then the last one was an old Zephyr
observation car which I have seen before. That cargas rental
Adam Curry: so how do we interpret this for the market?
Obviously a CNBC is spending
John C. Dvorak: money, somebody's spending money. Cars
are easy to haul around, right?
Adam Curry: But I mean, we've got an eight car stable but we
have two bonus cars. That means it's got to be something lurking
under the markets that no one is seeing.
John C. Dvorak: Either that or the rich are just blowing their
money because they know it's all over.
Adam Curry: When I went on the lake with my buddy, a week ago,
we went wakeboarding wakesurfing. And what I noticed
was everybody who has money in Austin, which are the people who
live on the lake, they upgraded their gear there was at New
boats, new jet skis people with those Mark Zuckerberg surfboards
that are motorized. Everyone's got toys out there.
John C. Dvorak: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what it
means. Doesn't mean well, I'll talk it over with horror, which
made me figure it out.
Adam Curry: Well, then, even before the Chinese attack, tell
me about the word of the day. Yummers.
John C. Dvorak: So I got up a little earlier, and I made
breakfast. So I watched cooking with Sarah. And she's cooking
some Mexican style foods that are very interesting. And then
one of them says Yummers. And then later, Sarah hands this
guest to cook a net of like a napkin with a napkin ring. I
hands it to her. And the woman says, napkins yay. That got me
off to the wrong foot. Right?
Adam Curry: Is that something that is peculiar in her
household where they have napkins? Yay. I mean, what is
going on there?
John C. Dvorak: I was beyond me. So I was I turned it off in
disgust.
Adam Curry: I can imagine. Well, the reports are not good. It was
for the I think the news started to break first here on the no
agenda show just a few days ago. And now the entire United States
appears to be under a seed siege.
Unknown: This woman says she didn't remember ordering
anything from China.
I hope that it's nothing to Sharia.
The label said earrings but something else was inside.
Obviously they're not jewelry. And I opened them up and they
were seeds.
But why would there be mislabeled seeds from China in
her mailbox? She didn't think much of it at first. Then she
found out this is something the State Department of Agriculture
is investigating seriously. She got some stern advice
this don't throw them in the garbage don't plan on Don't
touch him. plants and
seeds in Utah are regulated strictly which is why agents
with Customs and Border Protection could also become
involved in the investigation. So I
Adam Curry: received emails from all around Gitmo nation, but
only the United States portion Virginia, Utah. Let's see. Even
Lubbock test Texas from soon to be deemed gingersnaps who by the
way says there's not really any problem with Corona doesn't know
what the news reports are about. And everyone has more or less
had the same experience where seeds just show up they're
labeled as earrings. And it's unclear what the seeds are and
no one paid for them in the just sending them off. As in regards
to the hearing part. Patrick, who is he is longtime listener
here and occupied PDX and a licensed Customs broker. He says
I'm able to chime in as to why people believe they're receiving
packets of C's that are marked as jewelry. Probably because the
Chinese are declaring them as jewelry to get around the USDA
declarations when it comes to importing seeds into the US.
That would make sense agricultural products can
require import permits and phyto sanitary certificates phyto
phyto sanitary never heard of this word with that are time
consuming to obtain and often end up having to be sampled in
or fumigated upon arrival. So I'm just thinking since this was
unsolicited people have not ordered something. And these are
not only not just people who order seeds in the past that
just showing up. I think this is some kind of new under the radar
attack that we're witnessing from China.
John C. Dvorak: Couple of things,
Adam Curry: could you turn on your speakers a little bit for
me just a tad, thank
John C. Dvorak: you had done a couple of things. The Arc
sending him or coming over here randomly in his enough reports,
as much as true. Most of these areas have a local university
with a botany department. Oh, nice, nice seats could have been
identified, or at least it should be at the university
botany department. And there's some we should be looking at
some seeds yourself, you can identify what the plan is by the
seat itself. There's a lot of possibilities. So that the
reporting is it goes is so shallow. It's just beyond me how
this stuff even gets into the news. This should have been
identified and reported on long ago.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, obviously they haven't. So I'm
just calling it now before anything, you know, turns out to
be true that we look like geniuses
John C. Dvorak: identify what it is, and you can't because nobody
wants to seems to want to go through the effort. I think this
story is somewhat bogus. And I don't know why they're sending
these seeds or yeah, maybe it's some invasive species that they
want to emit. It could be a number of things. One, it could
be an invasive species that are designed to choke off the
country and kill us all. It could also it could be a man
eating plant. It could also be some Chinese vegetable that when
they take over the place and come over here and have plenty
of food to eat. I mean, there's no this is story stupid.
Adam Curry: It's not stupid. It's it's there's exactly what
you're saying it's being mishandled. And we don't know
what it is. And we should. So it's, there's no story other
than it's happening, and it's very odd. And I just think that
it's worth noting, but okay,
John C. Dvorak: I do I do understand the idea of marking
things differently, which everybody does, by the way, not
just the Chinese. Yeah. The way we do it. The Canadians do it.
Everybody does it. Yeah.
Adam Curry: But I but I hate the Chinese right now. So it fits
into my mind. So
John C. Dvorak: we got notes. I got some notes. We got to know
from Catherine's Katherine Dame Catherine sletten, down in
Bangkok, Thailand. She's worked with our paid hating on the
Chinese. Oh, okay. So I said to her, don't listen to today's
show. Please stay away really wisely. But I mean, I have
stuff. I got a bit of the Pompeo speech, which was the final of
the group. Yeah. And nobody picked up on nobody wanted to
report on it. So there's, I mean, it's not like anyone. In
fact, it's only our show that seems to be hating on the
Chinese the rest of the media loves the Chinese because we get
money. Yeah. I would recommend people go just 60 Minutes
Australia and look at all their reports on China.
Adam Curry: Oh, those guys have been all over China for the past
John C. Dvorak: call. Apparently, there's no money
flowing to them. And so they're just they just they're just
ripping them just and with some really good reporting. In fact,
some of the one of the guys got arrested two or three times
trying to get some of these reports out
Adam Curry: before before we go into into that just a quick
little COVID-19 updates Coronavirus she
John C. Dvorak: I wanted to do to COVID-19 stuff first because
our donations are way down. Yes. And that's because we didn't
start and open with COVID-19. And last year, we didn't even
hardly discussed it.
Adam Curry: Well, there is news. And there is news from Texas. As
you know, we are one of the central hotspots where where do
we open to early we're run by a Republican governor. We're
idiots down here
John C. Dvorak: stupid you are. You're idiots.
Adam Curry: So two days ago the news came out. I think it was
actually right after we finished on Thursday. And it was this
headline big scary headline. In South Texas, Southwest Texas.
Now doctors are putting triage panels together to decide who
will get treated and who will die. Get panels. death panels.
Yes. In the article it said death panels. So this is
concerning. Now I know that certainly on the border the
border towns are out of control. Mainly because most of the
inhabitants there who have a culture of hanging out and
partying I'm looking at you Latin X errs. They just they do
not social distance. And so there's like 65% of of everybody
on border towns who has any issue is Hispanic but This
particular town where this report comes from, I look into
it said, okay, so they're being overrun, they have more cases
it's out of control. They're out of beds, they're out of ICU
units, they're gonna have to start deciding who to kill. And
I look a little deeper. This is a 17,000 person community, they
have reserved for COVID eight beds, and for COVID 13 ICUs. The
A that is not their total maximum, but seriously. So
that's what they're saying now is that they have to triage
because patient number nine you have to die. There's no other
hospital in Texas that can take care of that person. But listen
to how broth played this on CNN. Disgusting. I understand
hospitals
Unknown: are so overwhelmed in one county in southern Texas, so
the doctors have to choose who to send home to die. What do you
learn? What are you learning? You want to learn? This is
happening in Starr County Down there in South Texas and area
that has been the hotspot within this Texas spot. County
officials they're saying at the county hospital in Starr County,
that they're going to create essentially ethics and triage
teams to go through the patients and which patients can be
treated there at the hospital in which patients might be too sick
to be treated and have to go home and wait to die essentially
this because the number of COVID patients has exploded there.
Over the course of just the last month. County officials say they
didn't have any COVID patients about a month ago. Now they have
more than 1400 more than 40 added to the rolls there
yesterday. So a great deal of concern there hospitalizations
and deaths up. The number of overall new cases is beginning
to show signs of plateauing. But there are still disturbing
details in his medical data here in Dallas county. The county
judge announced that one of the people who died reported died
today was a five year old
Adam Curry: child. I see that John dropped off, so I'm just
gonna give him a second. I wanted to hear the last bit of
that clip. Wait until he comes
back. Okay, you
John C. Dvorak: back. You just I just lost Yeah,
Adam Curry: I saw you go I'm gonna play the last bit of the
clip for your for your humor.
Unknown: The number of overall new cases is beginning to show
signs of plateauing. But they're still disturbing details in this
medical data here in Dallas county. The county judge
announced that one of the people who died reported died today was
a five year old child.
Adam Curry: So they start off this report with the total bull
crap. Make it sound like this is the end of the world and then
end up in Dallas and the child died. It was fine. Come on. Now
of course that sucks. But this is this is fear porn that's
being created here. It's really it's really gone too far now. Or
maybe not far enough for them? I don't know.
John C. Dvorak: I don't know either. But let me I have
another little tidbit here. Another one of our females that
are listened to the show. Another Baron Baron as of of New
York,
Adam Curry: Tanya, Dame Tanya. So she says you only have to
read the bottom part of that note, or not the part where
she's very disturbed.
John C. Dvorak: Not a dame overboard. I'm still listening
and producing the show. Hence the current donation but at this
point two of my friends mothers have died from COVID 19 And very
recently in Miami, and her dad is still in the hospital with
it. But thankfully it appears he will recover knock wood and yes,
they both died of COVID not have something else while they were
infected. Also, I know one young and previously very healthy
person who got COVID and survived but continues to suffer
for weeks on and it was an incredibly difficult recovery. I
do believe the numbers are fishy. Yes. Do I believe that
there are shenanigans going on with every aspect of this? Of
course. Do I believe that all manner of douchebags are taking
advantage of this for their own purposes. Yes. However, real
people are actually dying or being greatly harmed. I don't
remember hearing anything like this level of sickness or death
in the past for the seasonal flu okay couple of things there. I'm
gonna stop I'm gonna read the rest of it. Karate during the
Obama administration,
Adam Curry: don't hear about it correct. That's exactly the
problem. Sorry.
John C. Dvorak: You never heard about it because they never
talked about it. And because when Obama was president, they
stopped testing and they stopped everything then media just shut
up. And they let people die with no discussion. And we during the
major flu season that we did have about two or three years
ago we were they killed Jerry Pournelle and associate of mine
and a number of other people and I personally know
Adam Curry: and the command the John Perry Barlow, he got
pneumonia from the flu and died.
John C. Dvorak: And John Perry Barlow is another guy that was
often the same strain of their seasonal flu and I knew these
people personally and they were younger, and they died and they
died. Then no, no discussion whatsoever and whose fault is
that? Anyway, she continues to so when the vibe of the show
leaves sort of sarcastic and dismissive. Hahaha, anyone who
thinks COVID is serious is a moron unquote. It's really
painful. I
Adam Curry: don't think we've ever said that.
John C. Dvorak: We've never said that we don't play the own.
There's no such thing as COVID and we spent COVID spent there
are websites that do that we spent
Adam Curry: an inordinate amount of time in the first two months.
In fact, I was almost Dr. Burks skirt with their numbers until I
found out that she was a fraud, and that they were defrauding
the people were their numbers. So we've been very, very, very
much on this. I've never said that. Hahaha, anyone who
believes in it is morons, I'd love to hear that piece.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you find me a clip. It's really painful.
She continues, it hasn't been as bad as the past few shows. The
past few shows have been, it hasn't been as bad as the pat.
Last show. We didn't even talk about COVID. But okay. But I
have to say as much as I may have vehemently disagreed with
one or both your views in the past, this is the first time
I've ever felt ashamed to be connected with the show. I could
Adam Curry: not sleep from that from that one line.
John C. Dvorak: I know I love you guys. But I need to get that
off my chest. Another couple of quick things that she she just
talks about and 95 masks
Adam Curry: if I can just say. So we've all suffered through
this. And many people suffer through other things. You know,
we laugh about homelessness yet deal with it. And many of our
producers are homeless at the moment. We laugh about stupidity
when it comes to the opioid overdoses, which you haven't
heard much of right now.
John C. Dvorak: Which is, which is getting worse by a series of
clips. If we wanted to discuss that.
Adam Curry: Well, we shall. But I just want to finish that. If
you want sympathy, and oh, it's horrible, then you just can turn
on the television. If you want to at least be able to laugh
with two people who don't take themselves all that seriously,
and laugh about everything, then you have to be prepared at a
certain moment. There's going to be something that affects you or
that you've been affected by and it's not going to be that funny.
John C. Dvorak: It's just not. Now a couple of things. Well,
Adam Curry: we'd love to have Tanya otherwise. I mean, this is
John C. Dvorak: I'll give her some slack for one reason.
Adam Curry: She's okay, she's in New York. It's insane right now.
John C. Dvorak: Well, and what not only is it insane in New
York, it always has been. She's got a mayor who's who's a
lunatic and a governor who's who's an idiot. And she has she
is surrounded by New York media. Yes. So you can't walk outside.
You can't take a walk down the street. If you can't have
chicken wings. You can't do anything without being inundated
with his negative. I mean, New York is like a test tube for
this. Yeah, just the New York Times is bowl shed and the New
York New York Daily News. Most of the Trump haters we don't
even bring them up in the conversation much everyone
trying to like Biden and you're surrounded by this in New York
and everybody I know in New York is borderline nuts Yes.
Adam Curry: I was gonna say Tom Starkweather you know Tom he's
he's been holed up in in New York with his with his partner
Alexandra and he it's so bad right now he says all when
people when New Yorkers are outside all they talk about his
The Nut Job restaurant policies. The the the housing prices, it's
so bad he had to make a mix. It's just so and all this. What
is a restaurant? What is a bar? What is food what you can eat
what you can't eat? It's it's that that's really showing how
nutty it is. And the mainstream, including probably your New York
media, New York, one would be a great would be the worst I'm
thinking is the city with the worst death toll is lauded as
the best performer. And if you look at Texas and Florida on the
list of us just match it up against countries where that
down like 25 with New York number one more than that's per
per million people. So and we're the idiots and look at us. I
mean, this is all political. And you're right. Slack needs to be
given because you're being played, you're being programmed
you are being and we'll have several instances in this show
when it comes to big pharmaceutical industries and
the Chinese. Why you're either not being informed or
misinformed, because the mainstream media is just
shutting up about some of the most important things happening
right now and taking you right back down the fear porn path.
And they're good and it's happening everywhere. In the UK.
Oh my god, the end of the world almost and of the world, Boris
Johnson. Apparently testing is up something is up in Spain. So
where did where does everybody go when they live in the UK on
the island, they want to take their valuable pound and go over
to invade Europe, which they've never been able to do invade
Europe. And, you know, and be Brits on the beaches of Portugal
and Spain and Greece, etc. Well now because of the horrible
uptick, all of a sudden Boris Johnson says, Oh, you have when
you come back, you have to quarantine self quarantine for
two weeks. And the Brits who haven't gone yet are incredibly
pissed off. And why because the testing more than doing the
ramping up the test is the same, the exact same rollout that the
media is doing their masks are now mandatory in almost every
single country. My nephew's sent me a note yesterday says oh,
man, they're talking tech and second wave, they're talking
shut down that's in the Netherlands. We're being played.
It's obvious the numbers don't add up.
John C. Dvorak: Well, they definitely are contradictory.
The numbers were given from one source or another are slanted in
weird ways. They use a lot of percentage thing that that
report that you did with growth was a good example. You've got a
little area that's got, you know, a small hospital and
apparently nobody can. You're in the middle of you're in a part
of Texas, and I guess is so far away from every single
metropolitan area in the entire state that you can move into
another hospital, they've got airlifts going already. You have
you can't all you got to know now is death panel, not
possible. Not possible, they're gonna die at home. And this kind
of thing is out of control. And it's just continuing for the
purposes of electing Joe Biden. Now, I don't care what Yes,
people do. We never said COVID does exist. It's lab creation.
So it's impossible to deal with. And I have no evidence to the
contrary, that it's not a lab creation, except for the one
letter to the editor that was in one of the magazines, which we
discussed before. And so this thing is created by the Chinese
or in conjunction with us, I believe, possibly. Just none of
this is provable, but it's just here. You can, you can
deconstruct it.
Adam Curry: Here's the here's the thing that concerns me. And
this was Ted Ross on Friday. So Ted Ross is the non doctor who
calls himself Dr. Ted Ross, the shill in the World Health
Organization. And he gave his little speech, I just took the
first minute and 20 seconds, and you'll get the idea of very
quickly where he's pushing all of this towards Good morning.
Unknown: Good afternoon, and good evening.
Adam Curry: He is the most important man in the world,
which is why you need to address every time zone,
Unknown: more than 15 million cases of COVID 19 have now been
reported to who and almost 620,000, there's doubt many
deaths. As we have said previously, political leadership
and community engagement are the two vital pillars of the
response.
Adam Curry: So it's not about testing not about vaccines,
therapeutics, it's leadership again, leadership.
Unknown: One of the tools governments can use is the law,
the law not to coerce, but to protect health, while protecting
human rights. Yesterday, who the United Nations Development
Programme UNDP and Georgetown University launched the COVID-19
low lab.
Adam Curry: This He probably can't understand what he's
saying. He says, Oh, they launch in conjunction with Washington,
George Washington University, they launched the law lab. So
there's a lab for law, the law lab,
Unknown: database of laws that countries have implemented in
response to the pandemic. It includes state of emergency
declarations, quarantine measures, disease, surveillance,
legal measures relating to mask wearing physical distancing, and
access to medication and vaccines.
Adam Curry: So what they've done is they've, they're now helping
everyone say, Well, look, if you need a law for maths just come
to the lab law. It's pre written, you can just plug it
right into your own little constitution whatever you want.
We're here for you.
Unknown: When design lows can help to build strong health
systems, evaluate and approve safe and effective drugs and
vaccines and enforce actions to create healthier and safer
public spaces and workplaces.
Adam Curry: This is the harmonization this they're all
on the New World Order a train I got right Mr. Give everyone the
same laws. Yeah, it's complete. It's I know, it seems pretty
obvious to me what they want to do. I don't know how far they're
gonna get.
John C. Dvorak: They're not gonna get this far as not this.
No,
Adam Curry: not this time around, that's for sure. Oh, but
John C. Dvorak: they keep taking shots at his shots on goal.
That's good. Yeah, we finally get your score.
Adam Curry: Well, let me tell you where where the scary shot
came from me one of our EMT No, I'm not sure exactly where he
works, sent me the newest ICD 10 codes. Are you familiar with the
ICD 10 codes?
John C. Dvorak: No, you have? Oh, yeah, I know that what
you're talking about? It's 10 for 1020? No, no, no,
Adam Curry: no, this the 10 codes. ICD 10 is the 10th
revision of the International Statistical Classification of
Disease and related health problems. So it's an
international code for every single ailment and treatment
therefore, so that there's no confusion if it's an ICD 10 code
that it says something that's then that's going to be
standardized across the world. This comes from the who they
publish it.
John C. Dvorak: And this is done for the purposes of billing, it
billing
Adam Curry: and for distribution and for your patient record. And
so our producer sent me the new codes that have just been added
to the ICD 10. And I will just, I don't need to give you all the
the actual codes but I'll tell you what they mean. So there's
one code for has immunity to COVID 19 virus, one high
priority for COVID 19 virus vaccination, so this would be
attached to you, you would get this code, which means you have
a priority to get the vaccine. There's a code for if you have
the history of 2019 novel Corona virus disease, so that would be
antibodies. But then there's also virus not detected. Virus
test result. I can't read it so small equivocal virus test
result unknown virus vaccination contraint dicted virus
vaccination Dieter indicated I'm sorry, thank you contrary into
what does that mean, contraindicated
John C. Dvorak: means you can't make this like this drug is
country indicating if you're taking that drug?
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. And then my favorite is COVID-19 virus
vaccination declined. So that will be on your record if you
declined to have it. And that stinks. Yes, there's also a
vaccination not done and vaccination not available. Yeah,
that does
John C. Dvorak: the you know the records belong to you. You can
take pull those records is just bury I'm sure. Of course. Yeah.
No. You know, we didn't do I had a clip is gone. I've just
remembered couple shows ago, we should mention it just is we're
going to discuss just a little bit more now that they've been
looking at blood tests over the last six or seven months, just
random blood tests is just a blood because people are getting
their blood tests all the time. Right. And they've now think
that half the population has been has COVID antibodies. Sure.
I believe it's probably true. And the other thing is now the
other thing that doesn't get discussed, I've noticed is that
COVID wishes a related to the cold you know, just a common
cold this time of year in particular as they this is a
summer colds or COVID or Coronavirus, viruses semi
similar and it they haven't they haven't been discussing a number
of factors about you can't for example, there is no vaccine
against the corona virus that causes the common cold. No,
they've not been able to get they can't make one does anyone
actually honestly think they're gonna make one for this is
Coronavirus, you can make the vaccine against doesn't seem to
respond. And secondly, which they've stopped talking about
they started. They talked about it a couple of months ago. They
don't talk about it anymore. I don't know why they're doing
this. I mean, the media makes these decisions. The editorial
level, you catch the common cold a lot. You don't catch it once
you catch it again and again. And again. That's the nature of
this. Some people don't catch it at all, but some people catch it
all the time. Yeah. So is that going to be the same thing? I
mean, that's what they were talking about earlier. If you
remember what we're talking about. I think that's it over
and over and over. I
Adam Curry: think that's why you're seeing gates and Fauci
backpedaling a little first of all, I'm now almost I'm semi
convinced the President is gaslighting. And he said, Oh,
it's gonna be great. We're gonna have a vaccine very soon because
he knows it's not going to come. And he just wants to show them
all what failures they are that may fit into some strategy that
I'm looking at that that is possible. He certainly can't
actually believe that's going to happen. And he I would say,
considering how smart I think he is. That's pretty dumb. And
they're now saying, well, it may be 50% might have 50% efficacy,
you'll probably have to take one booster or three next year. And
of course, it's just another flu shot is what they're making
another damn flu shot only a little more urgency behind this
one. And you got some cool codes.
John C. Dvorak: Well with Trump, I kind of agree because you did
one point he always has your mayor. He's not a trusting
person.
Adam Curry: No. And he's sounding real confident about
this. Oh, yeah. Vaccines great, is great. And so
John C. Dvorak: he's not a trusting person. So he has so
many family members and very close confidants working with
him. He does eventually he does eventually trust people. I think
like Mnuchin I think he trusts right to the limit. Yeah. And,
and Wilbur, probably, but the rest of them do everyone else
that works for him. It's like, you know, show me what you can
do. And then you get fired and you get replaced, like crazy,
which is a management style people always like to condemn
Him for but saw you might be right, maybe he just thinks
he's, he's gaslighting everybody
Adam Curry: possible. Then he always falls back to say, but
you know, the therapeutics, I'm really excited about the
therapeutics, he's really what he he always says remdesivir He
really means hydroxy, Chloroquine. Even Newsweek had a
big story about how effective hydroxy Chloroquine was, I
thought it was gonna fall off my chair. I know you have a couple
of clips, maybe just since we're talking about the vaccine, I I
thought it was pretty funny. Gates was on with Bill Gates,
Dr. Bill was on with Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta. And I
think the idea of the segment was to tell everybody not to
listen to conspiracy theorists who are saying horrible and fake
news things about Dr. Bill, but it kind of turned into me was
very weird. And starts off with Cooper with this intro. It's
obvious they want everyone to believe in the vaccine and
that's why bill is there. But it took I just think it took a
weird turn. Here's here's Anderson Cooper setting it up.
It's three of them on the box. Dr. Bill Anderson Cooper and
Sanjay Gupta that a picture of that showed up calling that
medical experts which I had to tweet that it was so hilarious,
because I don't think Anderson Cooper or Dr. Bill are actual
medical experts. But let's have a listen to the intro. The top
John C. Dvorak: 10 videos that spread lies about you hit it
almost 5 million views. It's also pointed out that according
to signal Labs, which is a media analysis company that tracks
this misinformation about you as the most widespread of all
Coronavirus, falsehoods. So there's a conspiracy. Wait,
wait.
I missed the premise. What
Adam Curry: the premise is about conspiracy theories. No,
John C. Dvorak: but can you just start it over?
Adam Curry: Right. So he's, he's talking about how many videos of
conspiracy minded videos of Bill Gates are online. And so like,
John C. Dvorak: it's about Bill Gates. It's
Adam Curry: about Bill Yeah, it's about Bill but that's
started over
John C. Dvorak: for me please. You got it to top
10 videos that spread lies about you hit it almost 5 million
views. It's also pointed out that according to zig no Labs,
which is a media analysis company that tracks this
misinformation about you as the most widespread Coronavirus
false falsehoods. So there's a conspiracy theory that one, one
of our viewers asked about, I just want to play that that
sounds
Unknown: what would you say to the fringe portions of the
public, like conspiracy theorists that seem to think
that you're somehow responsible for the outbreak?
John C. Dvorak: This is so good. Love it.
Adam Curry: Let's bring in some audience. It'll look really
authentic.
Unknown: There's also a conspiracy theory that you're
pushing vaccines because you're going to inject people with a
tracking device when they get the vaccine. It's all it's all
part of a so called globalist plot to control the world. Q
anon. are, you know, which is actually a group that's been
targeting me as well lately? Oh, they're claiming goods lead that
I'm somehow connected with Jeffrey Epstein and global
Kabbalists of sex traffickers? It's insane. What what do you
say to people who believe this stuff? Because I'm not sure why
you have to throw that in a second to do with it.
Adam Curry: That's what's interesting about these three
clips is He keeps talking about himself and and it comes back to
himself. So he's very, and I did look at the manifest that, you
know, I don't think Anderson Cooper is indeed on the Jeffrey
Epstein flight manifest.
John C. Dvorak: No, but he may be in the testimony and in the
documents that they're gonna release.
Adam Curry: I know, the unsealed testimony, what's finished here?
Unknown: What do you say to people who believe this stuff?
Because I mean, I'm sure you are inundated. But
Adam Curry: that's interesting. The question he asked is What do
you say to people who believe this stuff right after he says
that he was with the he was hanging out with Jeffrey
Epstein. It's interesting that he leads with that for this
question, that I'm
somehow connected with Jeffrey Epstein and global Kabbalists of
sex traffickers. It's insane. What what do you say to people
who believe this stuff? Because now he's
asking the guy who actually wants Oh, he's asking the guy
who was on the jet, I think six or seven times, maybe even more,
even after he was convicted. So Cooper is bringing this up.
Because somehow he feels some kinship with Bill and I think
he's hoping for Bill to debunk it or something because Anderson
is being targeted. This is his problem.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, hold on a second. Up. How about the idea
another idea? Okay. Which is that Anderson is warning bill.
Adam Curry: No, let's go through the clips and we'll see. Okay,
Steven
global Kabbalists of sex traffickers. It's insane. What
what do you say to people who believe this stuff because I
mean, I'm sure you are inundated by I am by people direct
messaging me just insane stuff.
Okay, so that's his intro more about him really than Bill more
about him than vaccines. But let's let Bill get to it. I did
take out some pauses or edited here and there, I took out a
couple of the air and you can actually see his in a waveform.
It looks like an exacto knife is very interesting. Oh, here we
Unknown: go. Yeah, the combination of having social
media, spreading things that are very titillating to have this
pandemic where people are uncertain. And, you know,
they're there, they prefer to have a simple explanation. It's
meant that these things are really millions of messages a
day. And people like myself and Dr. Fauci become the target,
often the clever thing they do, you know, our foundation has
given more money to buy vaccines to save lives, than any group.
You know, so you just turn that around, you say, Okay, we're
making money, and we're trying to kill people with vaccines, or
by inventing something,
Adam Curry: what what part did did not make sense that he just
said that we
Unknown: all have it. And at least it's true. We're
associated with vaccines, but you actually, you know, sort of
flipped that connection that we have there. And I'm, I hope it
doesn't create vaccine hesitancy. I hope, you know,
this whole story of innovation that's going on that we do get
the benefit of that it's the really the only good news I'm
bringing you today is that the diagnostic therapeutic comeback
seen innovation, these amazing private sector companies without
the coordination who would like but they are doing it?
Adam Curry: Oh, you hear that? You see, because the think the
company that is out of the gate first is not part of the GAVI
Alliance. So that's where he slips in the well wasn't with
the coordination we would have liked because it he didn't get
to coordinate it because it was the chairman scenes
Unknown: without the coordination who would have
liked but they are doing it. And I do think people on the
therapeutic side will be surprised. And you know, these
are well meaning people, you know, this is a time where
people are doing great work. And you know, so I hope that
conspiracy stuff dies down. It's, it's really, the numbers
kind of blow my mind. And it's not just the fringe people that
you would normally think of,
Adam Curry: oh, it's not just the fringe people. So I detect a
little bit of sad about well, let's see the foil because it's
not just the fringe people he thinks that there's other people
who are what he says vaccine hesitancy, that's a nice
John C. Dvorak: word is also going to surprise the
therapeutic people has
Adam Curry: no idea what he meant by that. But let's play
the last clip and maybe we will learn more.
John C. Dvorak: It's not at all I mean, I can tell you I get
stuff from people who seem you know, they have lives they have
families. I don't think they genuinely believe this and
they've just been misled. You know, and for me, it's I you
know, I they claim my mind I was on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane
and going to his island with Tom Hanks or I mean just sitting
just insane, crazy stuff.
Adam Curry: So is it insane? If Tom Hanks went by himself?
Without you? Is it then not insane? Or is it just insane?
Because you were with Tom Hanks?
Unknown: Why is
John C. Dvorak: he with this is a bill he's got no you nailed
this. He has got some C seriously worried, says Fox
Adam Curry: and Bill Gates will refer to him at the end of this
clip. Tom Hanks
Unknown: are I mean, he's just sitting just insane. Crazy
stuff. What do you I mean, do you think I know internet
companies are looking at this. Do you wish that they would play
a role in taking stuff down?
Adam Curry: Please delete the stuff that says I'm evil,
Unknown: just demonstrably false. Because I mean, it does
have real world parts, you know, does have real world impact on
vaccines or, you know, a nut showing up to a pizza parlor in
Washington DC.
Okay, all right. Yeah, in some cases, they are taking things
down. It it's a bad combination, a pandemic And social media and
Adam Curry: pick because they can't You can't control the
messaging bill. That's why it's a bad combination,
Unknown: a pandemic, and social media and people looking for
very simple explanation who's the bad guy here. And a lot of
that's been connected to politics, more in the US than in
other locations. And in of course, vaccines weren't popular
with everybody even before this all all started. So I, you know,
I'm big believer in getting the truth out and it but it's kind
of not as titillating to say, you know, Cooper's innocent. Oh,
well,
Adam Curry: why, why does he bring you back to Cooper
Cooper's innocent. I think what Bill is saying is, bro, you're
in the same boat as me. Listen,
Unknown: it's kind of not as titillating to say, you know,
Cooper's innocent. Oh, well, you know, that's not as exciting.
You don't forward that to quite as many people as you do. The
the accusation.
Adam Curry: Think Bill was just saying that. I mean, why did
Andersen not say why your name was also on the flight log. It's
not like he doesn't know this.
John C. Dvorak: They're talking to Gupta and gates about
vaccines. And Anderson Cooper keeps coming back to his role in
the Epstein affair. It's like it's so it's like, he's, this is
really bad.
Adam Curry: It's bad if you got something to hide which kind of
oh, man, Cooper feels is
John C. Dvorak: nobody knows what she said. The thing that's
coming out is we have some clips about the side effect. I have a
series of clips about this thing. Oh, good. Yeah, I got the
whole thing. I got a I got a very good report from ABC that
discusses what's going to happen, how it's going to
happen, and what is going to happen with the people that are
the John Doe's that are going to be named. Right. And it's very
interesting. And I think Cooper's freaked out because he
thinks he's one of them. And there's 100 of them, there's 100
of them. We'll play that with this. But Well, meanwhile, I
just we're, we've kind of kind of slipped slipped away from
COVID, I want to I want to play something that's that's kind of
on topic. We'll go back to COVID. But I want to play this.
This is a long clip. But this is Jordan Peterson, who this is
from somebody on earth this hour and a half discussion with this
horrible woman from from GQ magazine in London, and of the
British version now is this. Is this new or old? It's from No,
it's from 2019. I think maybe it may even be from earlier, maybe
for 2018. But it's within the last two years. And it was I've
never seen it before. I've seen most of his stuff. And he has
just mad at her. And he's just giving a tour. But in the middle
of it. He goes on a kind of a sidebar, discussing Twitter that
I thought which is a social network that causes these same
problems. And I don't think this is complete, because it's not a
sociological study. But it's a clip that's worth listening to,
because it gives us a little more insight, or at least some
thoughts. And it also kind of explained away. The reason I
kind of stopped posting on Twitter, I still post to the
show obvious notices for the show. But I don't I don't go
back and forth on it, because it's just a waste of my time.
But let's let's listen to Jordan Peterson. Here's
Adam Curry: the strange social network, I've kind of pulled
myself away from it. So it's not an easy place to conduct
yourself with as much grace as you might. And I think it's,
it's sort of rewards impulsivity, because it's, maybe
it's because of the constraint on characters, or something like
that. So I think that people tend to show their worst on
Twitter. And, and, and some of that's a consequence of the of
the structure of the technology.
I think I certainly agree with you. I think that's something
that we agree on that I think people are really at their best
on Twitter. No.
And you know, I pulled myself away from it quite a lot in the
last month, mostly for to see why, you know, I kind of kept an
eye on Twitter, all the social medias, media networks for the
last few years, partly, to see. Well, I'm trying to monitor
what's happening around me, I suppose is probably the right
way of thinking about and to see if I'm making mistakes and how
they might be rectified. But I don't think Twitter's been good
for me. And I don't think it's I don't think the reply function
on Twitter is useful. And I think the fact that so many
people on Twitter are anonymous is not a good thing at all.
Do you think you'd be less angry if you weren't on Twitter?
That's something I think that'd be just I would come into
contact with less things that annoyed me on a daily basis.
Or I think there's no doubt about that? Yeah, yeah, I think
that's definitely the case. And I've talked to other people
who've pulled back from Twitter and experienced the same thing.
I don't know what it is exactly. But there's a there's something
about Twitter that seems to really heighten the desire of
people to be provocative. And maybe it's the case that only
people who are feeling irritable, respond, you know, we
don't know, you know, like, if you put up a post, and 1000
people read it, certainly 1000 People don't respond. A few
people respond. Well, maybe, maybe it skews way over to those
people who had a bad day. Like we have no idea, right? Because
it's a communication channel that no one understands. We're
not evolved to understand it. We're not evolved to use it. We
don't We can't interpret it. Plus, you're interacting with
random strangers, which is something you never ever do. And
it's never the same set of random strangers and you don't
react to Twitter. Like it's random strangers. You react to
Twitter, like it's a person that you know, and it isn't.
Why doesn't he just say that being on social media is
basically a psychotic activity. Psychotic activity. He's working
on it. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Do you want to do any more COVID
stuff because as I
John C. Dvorak: do, I want to do some work. COVID stuff because I
got some work. I got clips. Yeah, they're working COVID
Every which way now? Yes. Let's try a couple of a couple of
quickies. This is the COVID immigration This is relating
COVID to immigration. This is on Democracy Now of course,
Unknown: and immigration news to whistleblowers at an ice prison
in Louisiana, have revealed officers have knowingly deported
immigrants who had temperatures as high as 103 degrees
Fahrenheit and likely had COVID-19 by deceptively covering
up their symptoms. Under ice policy immigrants with
temperatures above 99 degrees Fahrenheit cannot be deported.
But one of the whistleblowers says staff was instructed to
blast an air conditioner to quote freeze them out so sick
immigrants could pass the temperature in order to be
deported. The US continued to deport 1000s of people despite
their symptoms, contributing to a rapid spread of COVID 19 in
Central America and Haiti. The whistleblowers work at the
privately run Richwood Correctional Center in
Louisiana, where at least 69 people have tested positive two
guards have died. Mother Jones reports the whistleblowers also
alleged LaSalle corrections, the private prison company that runs
Richwood prohibited staff from wearing protective personal
equipment forced guards who likely had COVID-19 to work
while awaiting their test results and regularly exposed
healthy prisoners to people who had been exposed.
Adam Curry: I'm very disappointed in this report from
Amy. I think she could have at least added not that they're
deporting is that putting these people with 103 degree
temperature in cages? And then freezing them out? That would
have been better. Come on.
John C. Dvorak: They got me in that report was it's like one of
these jokes where there's just one word out of place. And the
word in this case was Haiti. Yeah, yeah. Are we getting
people down the southern border coming in from Haiti? How does
that work there? swimmin. It doesn't make any sense. I
Adam Curry: think that since the earthquake, there's still a open
visa. So the people of Haiti are allowed to come to United States
and just hang out.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that doesn't is not the same group.
Yes. Very poorly done. This job pumping the numbers to Let's
Play COVID cases doubles,
Adam Curry: doubles, everybody.
Unknown: Nationwide, the number of confirmed COVID 19 cases has
topped 4 million as the number of cases has doubled over the
past six weeks.
Adam Curry: It's so interesting that they just keep pushing it.
Most people have kind of figured out like okay, I mean, yeah, the
cases have doubled but just not the same. It doesn't feel the
same that I think the numbers don't look the same.
John C. Dvorak: They just keep this seven double No, they
Adam Curry: just got to throw in the end somewhere. A five year
old child died in Texas. I mean, just say like that. Oh man,
we're in trouble. This is this is massive mind control on the
John C. Dvorak: here's a the last report I have here as this
is and I'm not sure where this came from this from last show.
COVID cases Low
Unknown: Country state. The Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention revealed the actual number of Coronavirus infections
nationwide may be 24 times higher than the public. This
comes as the Trump administration is proposing more
federal funding for COVID 19 testing, the White House has
refused to spend up to $8 billion already allocated for
testing, even though many states and cities face severe testing
shortages in this
Adam Curry: the testing shortages. It says same over and
over again. I just don't see how it's true what shortage it's
like I from time to time I hear on MSNBC them still saying not
enough PPE Are you kidding me now it's it's really it's this
is just I think that they've
John C. Dvorak: going to stretch it to November
Adam Curry: yeah Germany braces for second wave amid rising
infections I thought Germany did everything perfectly to perfect
John C. Dvorak: because it's run by a woman
Adam Curry: yes women do much better mask update I can tell
you I'm seeing the writing on the wall that bandanas and
scarves and neck gators will be outlawed pretty soon
John C. Dvorak: I'm seeing no yeah Nick Gator yeah I'm seeing
local story got mine yet and I just got to be outlawed.
Adam Curry: Well unfortunately the Disney Stores the outlaws
were
John C. Dvorak: neck gators are so that's why we like it.
Adam Curry: The Disney Store refused one of our producers
entry they did offer him a a different mask.
John C. Dvorak: Your what?
Adam Curry: They offered him a a cloth mask.
John C. Dvorak: So if you walk in with a mask they don't like
they'll give you a free mask at
Adam Curry: the Disney store. Yeah, apparently let's go need a
mask? That's a good one. Need a mask? Just walk on in? Let me
see that anything else here? No. I mean otherwise? Well, there's
some organization who's nonprofit one of our producers
has been looking into masks for all hashtag masks for all
they're pushing. They got about $400,000 to push masks. Tell
everybody we should have masks everywhere all the time when we
outside just as standard fare. And did I have anything? Oh,
yes. See on the on the on the vaccine side we have zhi shi
Jing ping, writing a thank you letter to Bill Gates for doing
such a fabulous job. I guess they're trying to combat some
kind of bad information about Bill. And I'm seeing a lot more
of the What's plan B, as the press is now you know, they
don't really have any more news to work with. Running out of
material they are running out. So old vaccine, when's the
vaccine coming? The kind of you know, the vaccine like, oh, so
it's exciting. It's, it's not exciting. Nothing's gonna happen
for months and months and months, if ever, as we already
discussed, something did happen yesterday. I just want to get
this out of the way now. Because I think it's a it's an enormous
thing that happened. Money wise for for American citizens. It
was. I mean, it was not only not covered, it's expected not to be
covered. And yeah, yesterday when I was watching the
announcement, even Fox News, I don't think MSNBC and CNN were
carrying it live. Fox News cut away from the President, that
the minute he started to give the details of what was actually
going on. And there were I don't know if you heard about it,
because it wasn't really reported for executive orders
that the President announced and signed yesterday. Did you even
hear about this course not? For Executive Orders of massive
magnitude, that, I think is a game changer, which makes sense
why none of the channels would carry it. The reason why Fox
News cut out at the moment, it became clear what was going on
and went straight to COVID coverage. Unfortunately, I
didn't get any of that I was just too astounded by the boom
that were gone. Is because it was about the pharmaceutical
industry, more importantly, drug prices. And I learned an
incredible amount about the scam that's been going on for 30
years, which the President has changed for at least until
November. And I think that's why he has he has several different
executive orders that 112 and three and then the fourth one he
might or might not sign but the minute it came down to the
numbers the savings the American consumers of pharmaceuticals,
the minute he that that number was announced everyone who was
carrying it cut away of course we can't have that with all the
advertising money come from the entire industry but certainly
also the insurance industry who was really the bad actor in this
only will will will only going to focus on the back door of the
of the insurance industry. So it doesn't look like they're the
assholes. But let's get into the first executive order. The
President announced yesterday and I can tell you exactly where
that Fox News even cut out
John C. Dvorak: before Voters I'm signing today will
completely restructure the prescription drug market in
terms of pricing and everything else to make these medications,
affordable and accessible for all Americans. The first order
will require federal community health centers to pass the giant
discounts they receive from drug companies on insulin and epi
pens directly to their patients. You know, insulin became so
expensive, people weren't able to use it, they desperately
needed it, we have it to a level that you're not going to believe
epi pens. Likewise, you've been reading horrible stories about
epi pens over the last six, seven years horrible, horrible,
horrible increases, where they went from almost nothing to
massive amounts of money. We're changing that right now. These
providers should not be receiving discounts for
themselves while charging their poorest patients. Massive full
prices. Under this order, the price of insulin for affected
patients will come down to just pennies a day, pennies a day.
Adam Curry: This is where Fox News cut out, boom, they were
gone back to COVID-19. We've got problems in Texas, I wish I had
clipped it, it was so obvious they had to go away the minute
he says hey, the price gonna come down to pennies a day
John C. Dvorak: for affected patients will come down to just
pennies a day pennies a day from numbers that you weren't even
able to think about. It's a massive cost savings.
Adam Curry: So this is obviously to get seniors on board and vote
for him. And the mechanism that's being used as
interesting, I believe, somehow, when the Supreme Court issued
the order that Trump could not deport DACA kids. There was some
there was some Supreme Court ruling. And they said, Okay,
you, you can't do that or not in this manner. And I remember him
tweeting and then yapping about how incredibly important this
was because now the executive order power had just become that
much stronger by an exponential number. And what he's doing here
is cutting out the middleman going directly. And this is only
for these two medications. But they're the ones that have been
most associated with outrageous drug costs for the epi pens, and
for insulin ins and he had people coming up later with, you
know, horrible sob stories have to take shitty insulin that they
can afford because the good insulin is too expensive for
them. Now we go to the second executive order. This is
something that he promised years ago, and I guess some states
have already been working on it with him. He's going to law
DeSantis of Florida for this. But this is allowing states to
go direct.
John C. Dvorak: The second executive order I'm signing this
afternoon will allow states wholesalers and pharmacies to do
something that politicians have promised for decades and decades
but never done. They never delivered, we will finally allow
the safe and illegal importation of prescription drugs from
Canada and other countries where the price for the identical drug
is incredibly lower. It's difference like you wouldn't
believe 70% 80% 90% 30% But massively lower than the
identical drug made in the same plant the same factory, the same
exact drug, same everything, same box, same pill. And yet
it's 5060 70% Lower
Adam Curry: versus something that is what
John C. Dvorak: Bernie was all over this.
Adam Curry: This is this is what gets me every single time. It's
like, this is exactly what other candidates have been yapping
about. And he just, of course, it's an executive order. It can
go away the minute Joe Biden is President, I'm sorry. He's
admitted his vice president is this president I think could
just cut it out, obviously. But this is exactly what everyone
was complaining about. And yet,
John C. Dvorak: it's 5060 70% Lower. And this is something
that Ron and I have been discussing. From the time Ron
got elected, and I've been wanting to do it. And it takes a
long time from a legal standpoint. And we've got it all
worked out.
Adam Curry: So this, you know, there were laws for 30 years,
pretty much maybe longer. There have been laws on the book that
forbid it's the whole insurance market, the pharmaceutical
market. It's very anti competitive. You they have
regions, states just can't go in and do a deal with another
state. Your insurance carrier can't operate in all states.
It's all divvied up. It's a huge cartel.
John C. Dvorak: And it's a scam. Well,
Adam Curry: it's a rigged system. And this third executive
order is a doozy. I I really had no idea that this was going on
or how this works. And now that I've looked into it, it's the
big secret.
John C. Dvorak: The American people pay an average of over
three times more for medicine than the Canadian So many people
go to Canada, I see it all the time they go to candidate buy
drugs, and then they come back prescription drugs because they
save so much money, the trip is well worth it. I'm unrig into a
system that is many decades old, we're doing something that
should have been done a long time ago. The third
revolutionary order I'm signing today will prevent middle men
and women I guess. But you've heard about the middleman,
right? The middleman that makes so much money. Nobody knows who
they are. Nobody has any idea who they are. They make more
money, perhaps. And even the drug companies themselves and
the drug companies in all fairness to them Big Pharma. And
they're doing a great job and the vaccines are doing a great
job and therapeutics, I can tell you because I deal with them a
lot. But I think that middlemen make more money than they do and
they don't do much.
Adam Curry: Okay, so before I finished that clip, I found a
short instructional video, what the middlemen do, and the
middlemen have a name. They're called pharmacy benefit
managers. I'd never heard of this. But the pharmacy benefit
managers are essentially a Data Project, a data warehouse, who
sit in between your insurance company and the drugs that you
need. And they manage everything they manage how much you're
getting, they manage the shipment, they manage your
profile. And they also manage the buying. So they can buy and
the idea is they buy in bulk. They're you know, they're they
put on big sums of money with guarantees. And then they take a
2% fee, a 2% fee, and then send the bill to your insurance
company. So they buy the drugs on one hand in bulk, they manage
everything, they get the prescriptions, that's the whole
operation there, which really is nothing more than buying and
selling. They take 2% fee, and then pass that on to your
insurance company. So you think that you would be paying 100%
plus 2% 102% For the same medication that they're buying.
There, unfortunately, are at least four scams. I have three
of them here, there's just quick explanations. The first one is
the rebate scam, a spread game, Tom spread the spread scam,
that's that's the first one. Whereas
Unknown: the spread game, Tom just had his prescription filled
at the local pharmacy for which you were PBM paid a total of
$10. However, your PBM invoice reflects a $100 charge for that
same drug. In addition to its $2 administrative fee, therefore,
you pay a total of $102 resulting in a net of $92
retained by the PBM for managing that particular prescription.
PBM represents the drug costs paid to the pharmacy is being
$100 Not the actual paid amount of $10, allowing PBM to retain
the extra $90. Without its clients awareness.
Adam Curry: I'd say that's kind of scammy $10 drug and they're
pumping 92% or $92. On top of that. The second scam is the
repackaging scam. I think this is what Express Scripts does
Unknown: the repackaging and repricing game, the PBM pushes
your health plan and Tom to their mail order pharmacy by
offering you deeper discounts and or elimination of the
administrative fee and offering Tom to reduce or eliminate his
co pays. Because the PBM repackages the drug, they can
now arbitrarily assign a new a WP price of its own choosing
with no obligation to inform the health plan. For example, the
Lipitor prescription at a retail pharmacy costs a WP $441 Minus a
15% discount plus a $2 administrative fee equals
$376.85 When repackaged and repriced the same medication
ends up costing aw up $684 Minus the 20% discount plus a $0
administrative fee that equals $547.20. mail order pharmacy
costs the health plan $170.35 More than the same drug
dispensed by a local pharmacy.
Adam Curry: And then the final one that at least I thought was
interesting was the rebates.
Unknown: The rebate came. Tom's health plan won't pay for his
$20 generic anti acid prescription but will pay for
Nexium the $148 brand name drug for the same concern. The PBM
pays the pharmacy the $148 with $10 of the $50 total drug
manufacturer rebate going to Tom's health plan and the
remaining $40 Returning to the PBM this arrangement costs Tom's
health plan $138 instead of the $20 for the generic drug.
Adam Curry: So those are the scams and And then when you
start reading about there's not a lot of information you'd be
surprised about these PBMs are farmers. By the
John C. Dvorak: way, I want to mention this, these kinds of
scams, and there's lots of and there's one other element,
especially in that first scam, where the guy gets 2% of this
little of this of the drug price, is that if you start
doubling and tripling the drug price to 2% becomes a lot more
money.
Adam Curry: But the 2% is just a joke. The two percents a joke.
It's a joke.
John C. Dvorak: It's a joke. But 2% would I remember when, when
they were doing testimony years ago, Blue Cross came out in
front of the California State Legislature and the woman does
testifies and you'll all we do, all we do is and it's always 2%.
All we do is make 2% Yeah, bullshit. We hardly do anything.
We just make 2%. But the thing is, the 2% of the billion
dollars in profits is a lot of money. But then they ever
everything gets jacked up and hijacked,
Adam Curry: doubled and tripled. The 2%
John C. Dvorak: of $10 billion is quite a bit of money this
season.
Adam Curry: You're missing. You're missing one. The 2% is
nothing they're buying the drug for 10. No, I
John C. Dvorak: understand that to 2% is just icing on the cake.
It's
Adam Curry: 800% 800% in some cases. So Trump put the kibosh
on this
John C. Dvorak: now you because I deal with them a lot. But I
think that middlemen make more money than they do. They don't
do much. Maybe they don't do anything. Some people say they
don't do anything. Nobody even knows who they are. But the
middlemen are making a fortune and pharmacy benefit managers
and people are just bilking Medicare patients. With these
high drug prices looking the government's pocket gigantic
discounts, gigantic discounts, the amount of
data element in this he says they're not really bilking
Medicare patients.
Adam Curry: No, it's bilking it's Medicare fraud the way I've
seen it is exactly
John C. Dvorak: the way I see Medicare pay if I got I have
Medicare, I go in and I pay my 10 bucks or whatever it is for a
$200 prescription and you see it on there. They say the the price
200 bucks. Well, Jesus Good deal. But I'm not the one paying
the rest of it. It's the government is the taxpayers.
Yes.
Adam Curry: And I see it as fraud. Now, the It's like
another 45 seconds of the clip. But it's important to understand
how we got here, because this was all locked down. It's almost
like the performing rights organizations. Only these people
can, you can only buy from the approved pharmacy benefit
manager. They're the only ones it's all segregated. And why
have these laws never changed? Because all this do is take 10%
of all this bonus money they're making and put it into
campaigns. And Bob's your uncle. No, nobody wants to change that.
It's a groovy system. And all I want to know, I really want to
know who these pharmacy benefit managers are. Trump says he
doesn't know. Because they they should be tarred and feathered
John C. Dvorak: locked up, as
well. They pocket gigantic discounts, gigantic discounts.
The amount of money they have made over the decades is to
incredible even to speculators say it's, it's massive. Some
very rich people are not gonna like me very much today. I can
tell you. I probably know them very well. I probably see them
in Palm Beach. But nobody ever talks about who they are
everyone. I hear the middlemen for years, the middlemen, right,
Alex, and he doesn't know who they are either. But he knows
they're rich. And they're not going to be so rich anymore.
Because the money is going down to reduce the price of drugs,
prescription drugs. That's a big thing. That's a tremendous step.
It should have been taken a long time ago, but they have a great
deal of power. And I don't have to tell you how many phone calls
I've had in the last few days when they heard I was going to
be doing this. I've heard from people that I haven't spoken to
in a
Adam Curry: long time. So this is such a double whammy because
the insulin and the epi pen that will affect people's pockets
immediately. This other third executive order with the PBMs
that kind of shouldn't be rolling out September October.
But just think about this is exactly I mean it's hitting two
of Bernie's points, the cost of it and and fucking the rich
people. I mean, he might as well just go away and be Bernie. Only
it's only it's a really it's a solution. That is not Medicare
for all of which of course would only mean more in the pockets of
these people and the politicians that support the legislation
that protects them, and he just did away with it. And you wonder
why it wasn't reported on because that that would clinch
it for him to seniors, all the old people. And just because you
said you had a prescription with Medicare, I think you'll see the
difference if you don't have insulin, or do you know you
don't have insulin, do you know? EpiPen?
John C. Dvorak: No, but you know, I think everyone should
have, you should have dropped the price. Everyone should have
an epi pen around the house. Yeah, it gives me a bit by a B,
some you don't know if somebody's not allergic, good
ideas. It's
Adam Curry: a very good idea. Absolutely. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: A bee sting can kill you. Anyway, I
Adam Curry: thought it was fascinating to just understand
this, to learn about it, and see that these executive orders are
signed in place. And I don't know it should make a
difference. So they're gonna
John C. Dvorak: go after him. If you think they're, well, the
thing is, he must have looked and looked around and said,
Look, I'm way behind the polls. Yeah, of course, that doesn't
mean anything. We know that for a fact. And people haven't even
seen Joe Biden. I mean, it's like, you know, putting a dog
turd into office. But the same amount of intelligence. Yeah.
But but it's like he's, he knows that the media has been pounding
and pounding and pounding and he's no, he's not a leader. He's
not this. He's not that. Well. Okay. Well, let's go and do what
they like to do with the with the right wingers and go after
their advertisers. Yeah, exactly. You guys feel that way?
Okay. Well, good. can exactly see how you like it. Yeah, I
thought that was like, wow. Okay. So they're gonna have to
turn up the gas, but they can't, it's already at full steam.
Adam Curry: And this and this really affects, you know, one
specific group because this is just a money game. It's the
insurance companies. It's the it's the I think there are three
huge PBMs and it's all split up into small little companies.
It's very hard to track apparently. But as the insurance
companies as Wall Street, they just hedge risk them do anything
else is push paper around and algos do the business of
screwing you. And he's he's coming in to disrupt that I I'm,
I'm quite pleased with that. And I think
John C. Dvorak: what you said there were four executive
orders. Oh,
Adam Curry: the fourth one, which is he will be signing if
if someone doesn't comply, and quite honestly, I just lost
track of time and couldn't quite figure out what the fourth one
was. But he threatened. He's saying I may not have to do that
one if everyone plays along, so I'm not sure it's some kind of
huge poison pill. i There's no actual text yet. Although I did
see the
John C. Dvorak: the notice about
Adam Curry: oh, yeah, I can tell you what it's about. I can tell
you what it says. Who is it about? Hold on a second, I'm
going to tell you because believe it or not, they have a
very handy website where they tend to put this stuff up. So
here's your four executive orders. The executive order
lowering prices for paint by middlemen, life saving drug
importation. And then where's the fourth one? The fourth one?
Yeah. Okay. It's not on there. So I don't know what the fourth
one is. It was just a vague threat than I thought he
published it. So I thought it's about Yeah, but I thought that
was just I love seeing the complete lack of coverage. And
this is this is a big deal. So even if they're looking at it,
not from a Chinese perspective, just we hate Trump. Now it's
it's certainly Oh, we can't have this guy doing anything good.
Nothing good.
John C. Dvorak: egregious. Ah, malfeasance by the media?
Adam Curry: Yes. Instead of that. All we hear about is this
as an example on MSNBC.
Unknown: He's setting precedents now. And I think mica was
exactly right. This morning, when she raised the proper
concerns. And the widened quote to me crystallizes it. This is
what would happen. If you were a an authoritarian president, who
was preparing to to resist a loss in the election, you would
be saying the things Donald Trump is saying, and you would
be gradually rolling out federal police power into the states
against the wishes of the mayors and governors in question. This
is how it would happen. This is how the movie would play out and
anybody who's not looking at this with a state of alarm and
concern and worried about, is this President going to have to
employ formally martial law at some point, as Ron Wyden
suggested yesterday? Is that on the President's mind, is there
anybody having watched Donald Trump for the last three and a
half years who doesn't think that Donald Trump would try to
employ martial law if he thought it was the only way he could
stay in power?
Adam Curry: Man, why is that so deja vu?
John C. Dvorak: No, that's high. Oh, man. He's he's got a new
gig. He's on the mica show. Yeah. And so he's trying to make
a name for himself, even though I think he's doing is he's
screwing himself. Yeah, that's Nothing that's not.
Adam Curry: That's nothing. What do you got?
John C. Dvorak: Well, we go to Democracy Now we bring in the
bearded one. Noam Chomsky.
Adam Curry: Oh, boy, I guess they're pulling the emergency
brake.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, they're bringing in Noam Chomsky? Yes,
go.
Unknown: President Trump is for his entire attention. There's
one issue on his mind, that's the election. He's has to cover
up for the fact that he's personally responsible for
killing 10s of 1000s of Americans die. It's impossible
to conceal that much longer. Compare the United States with
Europe, Canada, it's becoming a pariah state. To the point where
Americans aren't even permitted to travel to Europe, Euro form
accepts them. The his chances of victory are, depend on his doing
something dramatic. He was trying very hard to set up
military confrontations that you mentioned martial law, it's
moving towards martial law, he might even be able to try to
cancel the elections. It's there's no telling what he would
do. He's completely desperate. This is like the actions of some
tin pot dictator in a NEO colony somewhere small country that has
a military coup every couple of years. There's no historical
precedent for anything like this in a functioning democratic
society.
Adam Curry: This man should be ashamed of himself. Wow.
John C. Dvorak: He's just funny coming out of his shell,
Adam Curry: well, you need to take some Adderall or something
because that's the
John C. Dvorak: worst. So let's play a little bit more. Second
party more and more, you know,
Unknown: if he could black shirts out in the streets, he'd
be happy to do that. Exactly how this will migrate traders. Very
hard to say. The courts are unlikely to do anything. We may
even get to a point where the military command has to decide
which side they're on. The man is desperate. He's psychotic. He
is in extreme danger of losing his position in the White House
and do anything you can to prevent it.
Adam Curry: Wow, I can't believe that he proved to us that he is
not deranged. Because person woman man camera TV. He
John C. Dvorak: does home Chomsky that's gonna be my
favorite thing I've seen. Yeah, it's very funny. Chomsky as he's
saying, he's willing to put the black shirts on the street.
They're showing clips of the the black shirts. Yeah, they show a
bunch of normal cops, these cops the bad cops dressed in kind of
camouflage. Picking up black literally picking out black
shirted guys, all carved from head to toe with black off the
streets. And it's just like the contrast of what he says or
what's your witness is just like, wait a minute, What? What?
Yeah. Now there's one more. There's an optional tour clip if
you're not sick. I'll listen to more. I'll listen to more. Now.
The third clip, though, is is really a long question asked by
the that alternate woman that's on Democracy Now. Who's the dour
one the dour. lateen X type. And she's she I've never seen her
perk episode one time there was a rock star on this show. She
got Oh, she's bad in your eyes. It was pathetic to be honest
about it. But so she's asking this very long winded question,
which is actually the main part of the clip. And then he comes
in and he answers a little bit of it. But you have to listen to
her current discussion of his previous discussions. They have
a Trump clip in there out of the blue, which kind of it's just a
very interesting, this is a very different kind of clip. But it's
worth listening to
Unknown: what Professor Chomsky, you've just said echoed the
concerns of Senator Ron Wyden that we may be headed the US may
be headed towards the imposition of martial law. You've just
called Trump a psychotic previously having referred to
him as a sociopath and pointed to the differences between the
massive differences between Biden and Trump when you we had
you on earlier this year, saying about Biden that he's pretty
empty, you can push him one way or another. And you've also said
that this is the most crucial election in human history,
literally. Now, Fox News.
Adam Curry: Let me hear what was so literal about that
Unknown: election in human history. pretty empty, you can
push him one way or another. And you've also said that this is
the most crucial election in human history. Literally,
Adam Curry: literally, that's what he said, or it's literally
the most.
John C. Dvorak: He said it, meaning that literally lists
next election with Joe Biden running against Donald Trump in
all of human history, all of human history going back to the
pharaoh, this is the most important thing ever. We should
pay
Adam Curry: attention to what he says then.
Unknown: Now, in a Fox News interview, just on Sunday, Trump
refused to commit to accepting the outcome of the 2020
election.
John C. Dvorak: I don't like to lose. I don't lose too often. I
don't like somebody's gracious. You don't know until you say it
depends. I think mail in voting is going to rig the election. I
really do.
Unknown: Are you suggesting that you might not accept the results
of the alignment? I have to
say, look, if Hillary Clinton asked me the same thing for him
to comment?
Adam Curry: First of all, he said mailing voting might rig
the rig the whole thing. I don't think you said they will rigged
it for the Democrats.
John C. Dvorak: I want to stop here and say something I've
mentioned on the show before, there were two recent elections
that were done to replace some congressional members. And the
Republicans won both of them and the Republican and these were
male in elections. I've said, Yeah, that's what you just said.
It's possible that trumps gaslighting the process,
another, another, no, we can't have no no, no, no, no, we can't
have anything we but mail in elections because he already
knows that whatever he suggested they do the opposite.
Adam Curry: He's figured it out. Finally.
John C. Dvorak: I saw Dave Malin election made me assure his
landslide victory
Adam Curry: the way he says it. It's not as if he didn't do as
his hands like it's horrible. It's really bad. It's just look.
And recall that in 2004, I think it was Florida was all jacked up
because the Republicans want to do mail in voting. So I've just
listened to what he the way he says it. And to me, it's like,
yeah, hmm, yeah, he's got it figured out the
Unknown: outcome of the 2020. Election.
How not a good loser. I don't like to lose it. I don't lose
too often. I don't like so but are you gracious? You don't
know. Until you see it depends. I think mail in voting is going
to rig the election. I really do.
Yeah. Are you suggesting that you might not accept the results
of the election? I have to
John C. Dvorak: say, look, Hillary Clinton asked me the
same thing
Unknown: to comment on on that and what your concerns are in
the event. I mean, you've just said that, in fact, the
elections somehow could be canceled.
maneuvers. You theoretically they might undertake. One might
be to try to throw the election to the to refuse to assess the
vote, to make sure that the Republican governors does
authorize there aren't electors. This is routine and automatic.
Technically, they could refuse could throw it into the house
where there's enough Republicans in the House to essentially turn
the election into a the kind of force that you find in a
dictatorship,
John C. Dvorak: rather, and now that there's not enough
Republicans in the House, you know, yes, Senate
Adam Curry: doofus. Oh, man, that is, how old is he?
John C. Dvorak: No, I told you I was a topper I can be.
Adam Curry: Well, let's just look at how this is playing out.
First of all, I believe that this is an attempt at a color
revolution. Black lives matter. Black is a color. There are
elements who are behind this. Certainly a lot of nonprofits,
nongovernmental organizations. I mean, even Google, hey, Google
is pushing BLM. I get in pictures from people just you
just want to ask your Google thing to do your Google device
to do something and already it's promoting Black Lives Matter.
And I think it was actually I have this clip from Black Lives
Matter UK. Shall we listen and see. Hey, just so you know, it's
a global thing and Now, you'll see that the issues are all the
same. They really have nothing to do with a DOS, American
descendants of slavery. It's pretty much everything that
you'd expect, even from a guy like Noam Chomsky can talk
Unknown: about black issues and LGBT issues, and exclude them as
if
Adam Curry: I set this up. This is a British kid, noodle boy on
stage addressing a crowd. I think it's in London. And he's
telling everybody what's up what's going on where we got to
stand for and what Black Lives Matter has happened and what
we're doing can't talk
Unknown: about black issues and LGBT issues and exclude them as
if there's some individual issue, you need to be looking at
this using intersectionality, which is a word that you know,
is thrown around, but what does it really mean? It means
recognizing that there is one common enemy, the white male,
Adam Curry: okay, so that at least is the same. There's one
common enemy ladies and gentlemen, it is the white man.
Unknown: And the systems that they use a capitalism patriarchy
and fascism.
Adam Curry: No, okay, so that is Trump. Basically, the systems
the white man uses is patriarchy, capitalism. And I
wish these kids knew what the difference was between
socialism, communism, Marxism, capitalism, they're not taught
properly.
John C. Dvorak: They were created and taught anything.
Well, they're taught something
Adam Curry: they're taught to spell this bullshit
Unknown: is a capitalism, patriarchy and fascism. They
were created and perpetuated by white men for white men in the
interests of white men
Adam Curry: whose life matters at this point, that's a target
on our heads.
Unknown: Now, obviously, fighting these issues and
addressing them requires different methods, the way that
you approach and change racism is going to be different than
how you look at homophobia. And we understand that you can't
just be out fighting for your own issues. We need to address
the situation in Yemen. 20 million people, mostly children
are living in extreme poverty, and hunger and malnutrition,
which has only been worsened by the Coronavirus crisis. We need
to look at Palestine recently. I think it was like three.
Adam Curry: It's always in there. Palestine is always in
there. And he has a little bit of code showing his color.
Unknown: We need to look at Palestine recently. I think it
was like three days ago, every map whether it's iPhone,
Android, Google have removed Palestine from the maps. So
Palestine is still there. Okay, Palestine has not gone as much
as Israel wants to take over everything as much as America is
funding them. And that's his issue,
Adam Curry: anti Jewish, anti Israel anti semitic.
Unknown: We need to address the fact that you know, all of these
groups of people, the issues they face, it all comes from the
same people, white men, so we need to get rid of the green how
we
Adam Curry: kill the rich. So there it is. The no kill the
rich. That's the solution. It's all white men who are doing
this, especially in, in the American cities run by black and
brown Democrats. That's all white people. I'm sure the white
people are controlling them. Sure, yeah. It's very, it's
abundantly clear to me. Was it you? Did you when we were
looking at this, and we already did. Patrisse Cullors is co
founder of Black Lives Matter. We've gone through her Marxist
roots. We don't need to talk about that. But I found another
couple of money trails that are interesting in regard to Black
Lives Matter because there are two other co founders. Was it
the freedom road socialist organization? Is that the one
you thought that this was all stemming from? Have you
John C. Dvorak: heard of no I always think the world's Workers
Party Well, I'm
Adam Curry: sure it's related to freedom road socialist
organization, they they have all the strategies they have on
their website which is F r s o.org. Allow
John C. Dvorak: us to always think it also the radical
abolitionist movement. I think that RAM I think
Adam Curry: that's all part of it. The difference is these guys
have the money. And how interesting is it that Alicia
Garza was executive director or board member five different
freedom road fiscal sponsorships, remember that's
how this works. You get the the foundation or the nonprofit, it
reports a 990 form. It takes the money in for as an example the
Black Lives Matter Foundation, not the fund the foundation, and
they will give them money. We don't know how much they're
giving them. We don't know really how much is coming in
specifically for Black Lives Matter. And that's the Fiscal
Sponsorship. So Alicia Garza, one of the co founders this I
think, is the one who's the most interesting which of course, is
why she's not in the picture. She was Board Chair of the right
of the City Alliance School of unity and liberation, that soul
that the important one is people Oregon. Nice to win employment
rights. That is power and power. pow er is a group that included
Van Jones, a bunch of of typical people you'd expect to be
hanging around leftist issues and money, the right to Alliance
City Alliance, which she was the board member or executive chair
of six and a half million dollars in the past couple of
years. And this money comes from the Ford Foundation 1.9 million
George Soros Open Society Foundation, 1.3 million, the
Kellogg Foundation 250,000 And interestingly, the Ben and
Jerry's foundation is everywhere. Now it's only
$30,000. But that's just for that one. As the executive
director of Pow, pow er which Van Jones was a part of, and
still is a part of that group received 1.3 million from the
Ford Foundation as well. 600,000 from open society from Soros
50,000 from Ben and Jerry, at the soul organization, which is
underneath, you know, this big one, Garza claims to have
trained 712 organizers. But we know what those are from the
last show. These are the people got and break stuff to earn
$10,000 from the Rockefeller Foundation 255,000 from the
Heinz Foundation, a John Kerry. And then we go to the sea, the
multiracial organization that works with leaders and
organizers to transform culture and policy to catalyze social
change FRS Oh $4 million in 2014. So there's all this money
flowing into this and you look at these kids on the street,
they got pretty nice gear on tactical helmets, tactical
jackets, a tactical vest, tactical pants, boots, they got
all kinds of stuff. And this is all before we ever find out if
we do, how much money Apple, Disney, Nike, all these
corporations are sending to these groups that are ice, all I
can see is training and sponsoring this mayhem
everywhere now in Austin. Yesterday, someone got shot and
killed during a protest
John C. Dvorak: was who was shot and killed and who they shot and
killed by I shall
Adam Curry: tell you. So there was a protest Black Lives Matter
protests and they were marching through the street. And one of
the protesters, the protesters had a ar 15 or might have been a
thing was ak 47 Semi. And he's and he's walking along with the
protesters which is you know, in Austin in Texas in general you
can do that as long as your hand like it properly a long gun as
we call it that's that's allowed there's nothing against that.
And then at an intersection the the the protest crowd and this
is the way I've seen it from the video. I've seen the protest
crowd blocks in a car and the cars like honking like hey, you
know that's a scary thing when you're blocked in by all these
people in especially the Black Lives Matter protest. And so the
wants to get out and so the people start surrounding this
car, the guy with the AK 47 walks up to the driver's window
brandishing the weapon and the driver shot and killed him
Hello, it's Texas you idiot
John C. Dvorak: Yes, I think the driver should have shot and
killed him.
Adam Curry: He did and and you know so now we're everyone's
it's raining like crazy here. So I'm sure there'll be no protests
at all. But the whole city is kind of waiting. You know what's
going to happen? Will they be outraged? I personally, I think
all the kids are gonna stay home. They've done it. They're
like, Oh, okay. I don't want to be a part of that.
People crazy here.
I agree with you. That's why we have guns and it's so stupid.
teach you the first thing in Texas you know, you don't go
messing around brandishing your weapon in front of somebody.
Because they probably have a gun too. Anyway, so the story is
being distorted and I'm sure it'll be crazy white supremacist
who killed someone or whatever. That's how it always goes.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, we'll see. Yeah. Hopefully, they
just let him go.
Adam Curry: little chance of that.
John C. Dvorak: But unfortunately I mean in normal
circumstances if somebody comes up to you with a brandishing a
gun like that threatening you or you would you shot me you
wouldn't be even brought up on charges. No.
Adam Curry: So it was just anyway, I think that's I don't
have much else on black live. Well, we got noodle gum. We can
do that later.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, now I have two things we can do now. Okay,
I want to I think the maxvill story, maybe I should do those
three clips. I'm gonna do that now. Okay. Yeah, but before we
do that I do have an entre mom, because I think a lot of this is
going on has a lot to do with this clip. This is clips that
did clip his elementary This is from the show that ended this
year that elementary which I think when is sixth or seventh
season and when it ended, and this was the near the end of it
is that you get to hear some of the lousy acting, but it had it
it did have an element in it that we enjoy hearing a lot. And
this is this is from the season ending when the C's it was third
from the end show of the entire series. To look into this. I
Unknown: can take it to someone I noticed these things. My wife
problem solved. Mr. Connor doesn't hurt anyone. And I know
that you and I will never be friends. But I think you'll say
yes. It's too good an opportunity to prove me wrong.
Show me the false methods.
What makes you so sure this guy is so dangerous. Mr. Conrad
Adam Curry: has a podcast. Dangerous I tell you. Okay,
that's funny. I like that. Wait, I have one of my own. I have one
of my own. This is a message I've received from a very
special friend of ours.
Unknown: You're listening to no agenda with Adam curry, and John
divorce hack. Now sit back, relax, and get informed.
Adam Curry: There you go. God Himself dropping by saying hi to
us. Who did that one I know who did it. Morgan Freeman.
John C. Dvorak: So let's go to thank you, Morgan. Let's go to
so this will get us out of the way. This is a ballpark of one
report that was done on ABC. And I think it brings us right up to
speed with what's going on with the Maxwell story. Let's go on
to
Unknown: that major ruling in the galane Maxwell case, a judge
ordering the release of what could be 1000s of pages of
documents from a civil case against her and those could
include names of high profile people who socialize with
Jeffrey Epstein. Jay Norman joins us now with more on this.
Good morning. Janae. Hey, Cecilia. Good morning. That
civil case was settled back in 2017. But a judge ruling just
yesterday that the public is legally entitled to access
dozens of previously sealed records from the case. Some of
those documents are said to contain the names of hundreds of
people who spend time socializing, traveling or
working with Jeffrey Epstein over the course of more than a
decade. This morning as Geylang Maxwell wakes up behind bars in
a Brooklyn detention center. associates of Jeffrey Epstein
may be on edge following a bombshell court ruling. A judge
deciding Thursday that dozens of documents at the center of a
2015 case involving Maxwell and Virginia Roberts gouffre should
be unsealed including transcripts from at least one of
Maxwell's depositions in the case which her attorney says
contains, quote, extremely personal and confidential
material. gouffre alleges she was abused as a teenager by
Maxwell and Epstein and directed to sleep with Prince Andrew
allegations he denies who free telling BBC panorama
I knew I had to keep him happy because that's what Jeffrey and
Gillan would expect from me.
This yield records are said to contain names of hundreds of
associates of I've seen over the span of more than 10 years. Some
of Epstein's famous associates include former President Bill
Clinton, British Royal Prince Andrew and President Donald
Trump, who had an eyebrow raising response when asked
about key Elaine Maxwell this week.
John C. Dvorak: I don't know I haven't really been following it
too much. I just wish her well frankly. I've met her numerous
times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach. And
I guess they lived in Palm Beach. But I wish her well is
Unknown: coming on the heels of another major revelation.
Adam Curry: Why does he do that? What the hell is that about? Oh,
no way. I wish her well. I mean, is that? I don't know. Maybe he
really? Maybe he just wishes her well, but, dude, that's creepy.
And I love how they then put Trump in they connect him.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah, they gotta throw Trump and we know
that Trump is associated differently group. Yeah, but,
but okay. Now, so let's go to clip two.
Adam Curry: I was just gonna say it appears to me the the only
person that definitely is screwed in this deal is Prince
Andrew. I mean, that's the guy right
John C. Dvorak: now, Anderson Cooper. You got to put him in
there.
Adam Curry: How about this? I wish her well means. I hope she
makes it to the trial. Maybe that's what he means. I wish her
well. Don't put any thing around your neck.
John C. Dvorak: This coming on the heels. Oh, no. Yeah,
well, that could be Prince Andrew is you know he's
protected by the Crown is that this is gonna happen to him.
He's just gonna be out of the limelight.
Adam Curry: We'll see. We'll see. I mean, lots of stuff.
Nothing zip
John C. Dvorak: zip zero.
Unknown: This coming on the heels of another major
revelation. According to federal prosecutors. Elaine Maxwell is
married but she's declined to provide the court with The
identity of her spouse, Maxwell is currently held on charges
related to facilitating Epstein sex crimes.
Maxwell played a critical role in helping Epstein to identify
the friend and groom minor victims for abuse. In some
cases, Maxwell participated in the abuse herself.
John C. Dvorak: And more than a year after convicted sex
offender Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide in a Manhattan jail. His
mansions in both Palm Beach and New York City hitting the market
for combined $110 million. The real estate postings giving a
new look inside the expensive properties. But leaving out one
detail that Epstein was the previous owner. And Maxwell's
lawyers plan to file an emergency appeal to keep those
documents from being unsealed. If they fail. We could see them
come out as early as next week. Maxwell has pleaded not guilty
to all the criminal charges against certain Cecilia Paige
and a thanks so much. Let's bring in Dan Abrams. Now, Dan,
good morning to you. So let's break this down. We're talking
about unsealed documents. What do you think might be in them?
And anybody who might be mentioned in them? How nervous
should they be?
Unknown: The people who are mentioned in the documents ought
to be nervous, but not because they're going to be released
next week. What the court is basically doing here is saying,
Yes, I am ruling if this is going to be released if there is
no appellate decision that overrules me. But any of the
names in there are going to be informed that this is going to
be made public and they'll have an opportunity to challenge
that.
Adam Curry: Wow. Rather than didn't nothing's gonna
John C. Dvorak: come out. Yeah, nobody's dimensioned. This and
all this report, things come in, due to all eviction mode, the
only other ones before their jet. In other words, if you're
on they'll say you're one of the John Doe's, they contact you in
way in advance and say you're one of the John Doe's. Do you
want to release?
Adam Curry: Do you want to stop it? Of course. Yeah. Right away.
Oh, my goodness, the only one that wants it really public
Dershowitz. He wants that out there because he knows what's in
it. And I guess it exonerates him he's pushed, and that's why
he's showing up everywhere. He wants that out. But it'll never
happen in this case. Disappointing.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I was very disappointed as an optional
third clip, which is kind of boring. But it's, it brings out
a couple more details if you want to play it.
Adam Curry: So at least for now, anyone is in there and there are
over 100 names that are referred to as John Doe's, we'll get an
opportunity to make an argument about why their names shouldn't
be made public. So far, there have only been two people
notified? Apparently, neither of them have objected. So their
names would probably be released,
they should just do. Every everyone No, it should just be.
It should be Alan DOE to be Prince doe, Donald doe, Donald
doe. No, Anderson doe.
Unknown: Doe is great concern. Here is Elaine Maxwell herself.
This is going to be numerous depositions that she did in the
context of this civil case. And it'll involve some very personal
stuff about her including about her sex life. You may even see
in there elements of who she may have had sex with. But without
naming that person, which would still stay redacted until I had
an opportunity to respond.
And her team said that they didn't want this release to
happen because it would make her her ability to get a fair trial.
We would infringe on that. Is that true?
Yeah. Well, that's always an argument that defense attorneys
make, that any information that would be harmful to my client
makes it really hard for me to get a fair trial. It's also not
typically a winning argument. There are always ways when
you're looking for jurors to find people who haven't been
following cases like this that closely particularly when you're
talking about the details of what was released and what it
said a people have a lot of other things to do in their
lives and in case after case I've seen in jury selection
they're able to find people who would not follow these cases so
closely and most importantly the legal standard is that they
haven't developed an opinion about guilt or innocence.
Well,
Adam Curry: we shall see it sounds like a big nothing burger
once again. And I said yeah,
John C. Dvorak: one thing he did say that you may or may not have
caught which is that two people have already said they're okay
by them if they release all right stuff about them, right
Alan doe who are those two it's got to be Dershowitz Olindo
Ellen doe and whose be the other one. I wonder pooper dough. No,
no. poopers freaked out.
Adam Curry: I don't know. No, no, no. But we can't wait. We'll
find out something somewhere but I
John C. Dvorak: agree. It's gonna be it's gonna it's gonna
read this is gonna roll out slow. This is a blip. And
Adam Curry: sadly I agree with you the now of course, people
are dying, which is always interesting. We didn't I don't
know if we talked about it but late last year banker from
Deutsche Bank who had brokered all the Epstein loans killed
himself. Yeah, sure. hung himself actually. And I don't we
didn't talk about it. But then there's this, this killing of a
judge and the judge
John C. Dvorak: when we talked about it, you judge.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, so
let me see I have a clip here. I don't think we played this. Let
me say this morning,
Unknown: new details about the attorney and self described anti
feminist accused of killing a federal judge's son and wounding
her husband. Investigators say Roy den Hollander dressed in a
FedEx uniform Sunday and open fire on Judge Esther Solace is
New Jersey home when her son and husband answered the door.
According to The New York Times. Federal authorities are also
investigating whether den Hollander is connected to a
murder in San Bernardino, California earlier this month
when men's rights attorney Marc Angelucci was shot at his front
door by a gunman also wearing a FedEx uniform. In its 2015 case
before Judge Salas den Hollander represented a woman who wanted
to register for the military draft. He was replaced as her
lawyer last June before the case was fully resolved. It's unclear
why but it appears den Hollander held a grudge against judge
solace writing in a self published book that she is quote
a lazy and incompetent Latina judge appointed by Obama den
Hollander is also known for suing nightclubs over there
ladies night discounts. Here's what he told ABC News in 2007.
I'm now trying to turn this tables of equality on the
feminazis who have changed this country. This
Adam Curry: is very odd this guy. And he killed himself with
multiple, multiple, multiple shots. It's an old classic. It's
like to to the head gun in the left hand. I don't know how they
do it is fantastic. So can be meaningless. It doesn't seem
like I mean, yeah, it's connected somehow. This guy is
weird, though. And apparently he wanted to ask the judge out on a
date. And she had she had turned him down. And I even saw a video
on Kobe, the old Colbert show where he was he was making fun
of him. Or some crazy guy guy. Yeah, he's gotten around. He's
been on TV. He's been interviewed, and then this
happens and what's the deal with the FedEx and the dress up? And
sometimes either the guy is completely whacked or who knows.
John C. Dvorak: Sounds like an MK Ultra gone astray.
Adam Curry: Now you're talking and with that, I'd like to thank
you for your courage to say in the morning to you, the man who
put the C in Chomsky is bait John C. Dvorak.
John C. Dvorak: Glenn Good morning to you Mr. Adam curry.
Also in the morning all the boots on the ground feet in the
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the nights in the dames. Yes,
Adam Curry: in the morning to our trolls in the troll room. No
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1110 or 11? Who bowled
John C. Dvorak: 11 You're gonna be 12
Adam Curry: Unbelievable. Now we did look at other stuff. I don't
know. I can't really remember exactly how we came up with this
as Darren O'Neill's Fantastic job as always, Darren.
John C. Dvorak: Well, they wasn't really we didn't get a
lot of stock that we it was a lot of let's go look at If we
had a lot of stuff that was
Adam Curry: racist,
John C. Dvorak: Well, besides that, the one you like was the
two masks.
Adam Curry: That was cute. I thought it was nice and cute.
John C. Dvorak: Well, one of the things I noticed that O'Reilly
had a nice piece, but it was just that, uh, no, it wasn't.
He's resubmitted it.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, he's doing it with a red background.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I guess that's because a nick.
Adam Curry: Everyone wants to do red backgrounds now. Because
that that gets your art picked? Well, I think that they're gonna
find out that that's absolutely not true.
John C. Dvorak: Yet, because we're never going to pick
anything with a red background ever again, ever again. Now we
just picked the art from the quality that it makes us laugh
and all around. Yeah. But it's nice to have a red background is
kind of cool.
Adam Curry: And honestly, the bowling ball was nice. You're
also a bowler? So I think that's good. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: and I liked a 33 on the shoes. I think that was
what sold me.
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Adam Curry: I'm not sure exactly what that means. But okay. We
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John C. Dvorak: maybe he's setting it up. Circus media is
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Adam Curry: Yes. And I am just looking for the two to the head
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John C. Dvorak: girl Yay.
Adam Curry: Yay. Okay, I think we have these in karma too. So
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John C. Dvorak: yep. For all you've got karma. Part jingles
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Adam Curry: I haven't Believe it or not, I have it.
John C. Dvorak: And jobs karma Trump version. I don't think it
cursed. Just because one guy said so. Okay, this is the
curry. Okay, we got to know which, okay, well, I forgot. I
don't know which we can actually it's up to you. Since I forgot
to ask when granted Baron status I wanted to claim my protector
today as Sir economic hitman Baron of Baron of congressional
dish. A few months ago, I asked you to put a link in the show
notes to promote the beta release of my iPhone app, man
collar world now manakala fantasy MAMC ala online manakala
fantasy and online a turn based strategy game dating back to
ancient civilizations the game is at local two player mode vs
computer and online play well I finally publish the app to the
App Store last month. I'm trying to get hired as an iOS
developer. So every person who downloads My app is helping me
find a job. Would you please post this link in the show
notes? Can you do that? I would do it means the world to me. And
I think we can do that. apple.com Okay, yeah, well,
Adam Curry: we'll put that right next to his will in fact, we'll
make your credit hot. Your credit will be hot when you
click on your name and the credits it'll be hot.
John C. Dvorak: Nobody ever does that. I'm doing it. It'll be
hot. Nobody ever clicks on anything.
Adam Curry: Well, when there's that's the only one that's a
link and it's the top of the page mom. I think it's pretty
good. Pretty good placement.
Unknown: Yeah, it is good placement. Okay,
Adam Curry: now, hold on. I've got it. I gotta do.
Unknown: Thank you, Chairman Nadler, Ranking Member Collins,
members of the committee. First I must say I have Tourette
Syndrome. Sometimes I have tics and make sounds I can't control
so please forgive me
John C. Dvorak: remember that guy? He was great. Yeah, you
you're the only one that can actually laugh.
Adam Curry: Because he's my colleague. So that's why I get I
get the laughter that
Unknown: give me
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John C. Dvorak: Let's vote for John Okay, the Johnsons is the
Johnsons from Wisconsin 202 Senate handwritten note
handwritten and somebody I'm guessing it would be the fill as
postman is also as he doesn't he refill writes the note and I
would say by the looks of his handwriting, which is actually
printing that he's an architect Oh, it's got that certain look
that you see an architectural drawing. It's like they all
learn to write this way I'm making this donation from my son
for my son Philip who hit me in the mouth a month ago a while
back. It has been interesting to see how much this has changed
our family dinners with our kids aged 37 and 39 This is like
becoming emotionally this is like becoming emotionally debt
free. Like we do not always agree but we talk about things
that we never did before he hit me the whole family in the mouth
the whole family's accessed into digging into each other's
deconstructions
Adam Curry: sounds like a family I know out in California
somewhere
John C. Dvorak: not quite because they all listen to the
show these people the Johnsons
Adam Curry: All right our individual families don't
actually listen now well the keeper the keeper listens when
John C. Dvorak: there was dog walking all the time she'd
listened which is walking my daughter is partially finding
more detail on pretty much any source now she's become a search
attic i i Something my game up our bliss life in the mouth.
Grandma maybe so she is now part of the part of the party. Yay.
All right grandma having a meeting that's almost
impossible.
Adam Curry: What is written in block letters or is his written
block letters but
John C. Dvorak: like for example, the R looks like an N
That's kind of laid on its side
Adam Curry: is it from a newspaper letters.
John C. Dvorak: We will add this to our son's accounting as he
has been a subscriber for a long while now but I wanted to have
you add him to your list of Associate Executive Okay this
has to be switched to him. Okay, please give a break. Get your
pen out sorry birthday call out a missed Yeah. Birthday, his
birthday the son, July 23.
Adam Curry: And what's his name? Well, I'm
John C. Dvorak: not have to go back and figure out what his
name is son, Philip.
Adam Curry: Philip. What's his last name?
John C. Dvorak: Philip Johnson. Johnson.
Adam Curry: Okay. And do we know how old he was?
John C. Dvorak: Doesn't say okay, but he's probably in his
30s. Now he does have jingles. And I forgot that I've been
remiss because I've been so mind boggled by this. He needs three
jingles. He needs we're all gonna die from Obama. That's
true. That's true. And shut up slave. Pretty easy.
Adam Curry: Okay, was there anything else on his note?
John C. Dvorak: No. And as I mentioned, karma, so we're
giving the son the, the money or the money the money? Yeah. All
right. Credit and karma. Again, my karma the whole family. It's
true. You've got
Adam Curry: not messing around straight to the goat.
John C. Dvorak: It's not too bad. And there we have our David
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think at $200.33 says had no story to tell. No no it just
karma you got
Adam Curry: it. We're happy to give you some karma. Throw in
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John C. Dvorak: Dustin Dhanam in Tao, Texas, or tau tau, I think
is tau pow. $200.33 a John anatomy donated to back in 2011
with the amount of 1864 but never got a shout out. Oh,
apparently $50 is a cut out Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. After nine
years of listening on and off I'm requested to be deduced and
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crisis. Best to you guys and the no agenda family. You've been
Adam Curry: man Good to have you here.
Unknown: Jobs, jobs and jobs. Or jobs.
John C. Dvorak: At the byte count air era daringness back oh
nice heard from him for well trabuco Canyon, California.
Thanks for the fantastic deconstruction of the media I'm
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amygdala if it if it only saves our amygdala is worth it all. No
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John C. Dvorak: this we go out yet people
Adam Curry: in the mouth All righty, all righty then once you
got
John C. Dvorak: we're gonna see a couple of things where we
should do our China thing. Yeah, let's do this man shine. I also
have a substance abuse special four part special
Adam Curry: substance abuse special. Oh, my. And now,
John C. Dvorak: Pompeo came out with the fourth speech. Yeah. As
a group. Yes. Yes. And he talked about it. Now. This was
interesting. You would have loved it because it was it was
Dr. Nixon library. Outside.
Adam Curry: Wait, wait, was it How was the weather?
John C. Dvorak: Let me ask that first. It was windy.
Adam Curry: Oh my Goodness, did we have any form of microphone
protection going on for this thing? That'd
John C. Dvorak: be a dead kitten on there or something like that.
That's a particularly good one with the wind. Yeah. But no, no,
it's just to to bear Mike sitting there, you know, and
he's yakking away the winds, blowing every so often screwing
him up and you can barely hear him. And nobody covered it. I
noticed that I was watching the AMY GOODMAN biography, nothing
and she showed a picture of him talking about it. And he never
played even a clip, because it was so important for me to play
the entire grouse section. With the AOC on the floor of the
Congress, moaning and groaning about being called a bitch on
the steps.
Adam Curry: I think it was an effing bitch. She went a little
further than that effing
John C. Dvorak: bitch. Yeah. So it showed week, and nobody
played any of this stuff. So this is all new now. It's just
beyond me. But nobody seems to be paying attention to this or
the executive orders. I mean, they're the news media is
really, really screwing us screwing the public. So I do
have the Pompeo speech, I want to play it. I don't know how to
play. The whole thing went on for 20 minutes by I've got the
first two minutes of it, that I think pretty much summarize, but
he's one of those guys who's going to tell you what he's
going to tell you that he's going to tell you and he's going
to tell you what he told you. And then he told he's going to
tell us what he's going to tell us. And so we know the whole
thing.
Unknown: One area in particular that I saw which was cited in x,
Adam Curry: sorry, that is not Pompeo,
Ambassador Brian spoke about ideology. FBI Director Ray
talked about espionage Attorney General Barr spoke about
economics. And now my goal today is to put it all together for
the American people in detail what the China threat means for
our economy, for our liberty, and indeed for the future of
free democracies around the world. Next year, marks half a
century. Since Dr. Kissinger secret missing to China, and the
50th anniversary of President Nixon strip isn't too far away
in 2022. You know, the world was much different than we imagined
engagement with China would produce a future with bright
promise of comedy and cooperation. But today, today,
we're all still wearing masks and watching the pandemics body
count dies because the CCP failed in its promises to the
world. Hold on
a second. What body count rise who side? Is he on? That bull
crap you can say? You can say well, I guess he's just sort of
make China look asshole. But that bullshit
today. Today, we're all still wearing masks and watching the
pandemics body count rise because the CCP failed and its
promises to the world. We're reading every morning New
headlines of repression in Hong Kong. And in Xinjiang, we're
seeing staggering statistic of Chinese trade abuses that cost
American jobs and strike enormous blows to the economies
all across America, including here in Southern California. And
we're watching a Chinese military that grow stronger, and
stronger, and indeed more menacing. Echo the questions
ringing in the hearts and minds of Americans from here in
California to my home state of Kansas and beyond. What did the
American people have to show now 50 years on from engagement with
China? Did the theories of our leaders that proposed Chinese
evolution towards freedom and democracy proved to be true? Is
this China's definition of a win win situation? And indeed,
centrally from Secretary of State's perspective, is America
safer? Do we have a greater likelihood of peace for
ourselves and peace for the generations which will follow
us? Look, we have to admit a hard truth we must have been our
truth should guide us in the years and decades to come. That
if we want to have a free 21st century and not the Chinese
century, of which Xi Jinping dreams, the old paradigm of
blind engagement with China simply won't get it done. We
must not continue it. And we must not return to it.
Yeah, the wind is a little distracting.
John C. Dvorak: It's worse it's worse later.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah.
John C. Dvorak: I mean that was the best of the whole thing
Adam Curry: was but what did he really say other than China man
John C. Dvorak: bad? Yeah, no, I'm gonna read some one of our
producers sent a copy of the of the China that thing is to
insert in the New York Times that China values to kind of
daily or whatever it is daily. Yeah. Is that it was kind of
funny because he did. Obviously they're not native speakers.
Nobody writes like this. He says, this is a paragraph I'm
gonna read. This claim of amicable goodness came despite
the US is leading flibbertigibbet on everything
Chinese saying that his country hopes like minded nations can
build a coalition against China. So a flibbertigibbet is that is
what they call. Pompeo, a flibbertigibbet. Yeah, and
because of this show is largely educational. Yeah, can you give
me a spelling first I better than that. It used to be that it
was a word of the day sometime back on the Merriam Webster site
and I You
Adam Curry: have a clip. Oh, okay, well, it's not titled word
of the day. Okay, I was gonna say I was looking for
flibbertigibbet.
Unknown: It's Merriam Webster's word of the day for December 17.
Today's word is flibbertigibbet spelled Fli. BB ERTIGIBBE. T
flibbertigibbet is a noun that means a silly flighty person.
Here's the word used in a sentence from the Arizona
Republic by Carrie L'Engle as played by a breathless Vinnie
Chavez, the young prince is a petulant flibbertigibbet
obsessed with visual glamour, which gets in the way of his
search for a suitable princess to marry. The word
flibbertigibbet is one of many incarnations of the Middle
English word flipper gibbet, meaning gossip or chatter. It's
a word of onomatopoeic origin created from sounds that were
intended to represent meaningless chatter. Shakespeare
apparently saw a devilish aspect to a gossipy chatter. He used
flibbertigibbet in King Lear as the name of a devil. This use
never caught on, but the devilish connotation of the word
reappeared over 200 years later, when Sir Walter Scott used
flibbertigibbet as the nickname of an impish urchin in the novel
Kenilworth fish, meaning derived from Scott's character was short
lived and was laid to rest by the 19th century's end, leaving
us only with the silly flighty person meeting with your Word of
the Day. I'm Peter Sokolowski,
Adam Curry: that is a fantastic word of the day. And if I were
representative Yoho I would go straight to miss Alexandria
Ocasio Cortez and say, Sandy, listen up. You misheard me. I
didn't call you an FM bitch. I called you flibbertigibbet. If
not, that's what you are. Now. This is a new word
flibbertigibbet.
John C. Dvorak: I think that's actually does describe her.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so to some degree. That's a good one does,
yeah.
John C. Dvorak: So So he goes on and he says the same stuff that
everybody else said kind of complaining, moaning and
groaning but curiously, at the Center for Strategic
International Studies, Zs I S. Yes. Romney was on there. Being
the blowhard that he is pretty much saying the same thing. But
But kind of condemning Trump. I don't know how he manages to do
this.
Adam Curry: Now what? What is this? What is this organization?
This si s is?
John C. Dvorak: It's a it's run? I don't know. But it's it's one
of those think tanks that is probably up front for some. I
didn't look into it any extreme. You might want to leave. If it
shows up again. We probably will. It has Bob Schaeffer
running a video operation. He wasn't available for this one.
Yeah. And he runs a video operation that does a bunch of
clips on this place.
Adam Curry: Well, Thomas Thomas, Jay Pritzker, is the chairman of
the board. I think enough said, Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: well, definitely. Definitely.
Definitely. So let's listen to a couple of Romney things because
this is okay. Seems to be on board with Trump. But he he's
not really I have the one extra clip by says call Romney one.
Yes. Got it. That's the one
didn't before we came on air, right. You've called China that
issue of our era. And you also said we're all fast asleep at
the wheel basically about this. What did you mean by that? Well,
I do believe that China represents an enormous threat to
liberal democracy, generally, to the economic vitality of the of
the of the world, to freedoms not only for its own people, but
for people the world. China has a very different model that
they're operating from. They've expressed their ambition to
dominate the world, to become the geopolitical leader of the
world, replacing the United States and the West, to become
the military power of the world, and also the economic power of
the world. And they believe that that's their rightful place.
They had that kind of hegemony, once upon a time, a long, long,
long time ago. And they believe that that was taken away from
them by colonial powers, and they intend to reassert their
global leadership. And were they able to do so? I think we would
find ourselves being impoverished relatively, we
would, we would find ourselves in an authoritarian type state
being monitored by government officials. We would not have the
freedoms which we have long enjoyed and the American
experiment would have come to an end
Adam Curry: to big drinking club displace the CSIS. Everyone's in
it, including Kissinger.
John C. Dvorak: Well, Romney I don't think he's in it. He might
be but they just interview all these different people. So I'm
sure there's some good stuff. No, yeah. Not at the institute
itself. But in these interviews, let's go to clip two is short.
And this isn't something we would hide from China. But it's
insane. For instance, you, you cannot continue to massively
subsidized industries, selling products massively below their
cost, such that you drive Western businesses out of
business, laying people off, weakening us economically, and
hollowing out our economic capabilities. And, and that is
something that has to happen. And I think I think you make a
good point what we've seen China doing both in the South China
Sea, in Hong Kong, with the Uyghurs with their social
scoring, where by virtue of have cameras on every corner, and
facial recognition, technology, repressing individuals who want
to express their independent point of view, all of these
things are waking up, I think other nations and their this all
presents an opportunity for the leadership of America to stand
up and coalesce international effort.
Adam Curry: You know, what really bothers me when people
bring up the Uyghurs that drone footage is bothersome. Where did
it come from? It just shows up and there's no explanation as to
you know, it's two years old.
John C. Dvorak: I just I disregard the drone footage. I
think I've seen it once. I didn't think much about it.
Okay, I don't care.
Adam Curry: Okay. Oh, that's really made the story catch legs
as far as I'm concerned as to the drone footage.
John C. Dvorak: That surprised me. Right. I thought that what
we your story was should have caught legs before if the media
was doing his job. But they weren't because China runs them.
So what are you going to do? Nothing. It by the way, we're
not the only country that kind of gets gets hoodwinked and
evolved. Thanks. And I think clip three is actually kind of
an eye opener. Yeah. And
speaking of the Uighur population, the BBC just shown
showed drone footage on July 19 is you know, of a blindfolded
Uighur Muslims seemed to be like moving them on to trains. And
there's some sense that there's a there's a public backlash,
both in the UK and Australia about that, if you do have any
sense of that. Yeah, I find it astonishing that China by virtue
of their repression of free speech, and the media is able to
keep the story of what they're doing in their own nation, as
quiet as it is. And perhaps some countries are used to the money
they're getting from China for investment. And as a result of
that, well, let us say anything, I mean, how do you take a nation
like Iran, a, an Islamic nation that doesn't speak out about the
repression of Muslims? In China, the wiggers, but but virtual
silence, how can that be? And then you understand that there's
a proposal to provide some $500 billion in projects in Iran, by
China. And look at us here, this country, we're not willing to
spend that kind of money on our own infrastructure. China is
willing to spend it on infrastructure in Iran. So not
surprisingly, Iran gets very quiet.
Adam Curry: But isn't Isn't he the Iran shield? Isn't that what
Romney does? Is it doesn't Ian's have like his daughters married
to someone over there some crazy stuff
John C. Dvorak: like that. From the sounds of it? He's not any
more. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's very odd. I'm not I'm not sure why he why he's
doing that.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, well, it was a very good point. I have to
say. It's an N and hilarious. Are you interested in anymore?
This was almost material.
Adam Curry: You could stop. I have some stop me. I have some
Chinese stuff.
John C. Dvorak: Okay, well, let's play a clip for a gig. He
outlines a procedure. I think this is kind of interesting.
Adam Curry: I love how you say do you want to want to go on you
want to take my son I got some Chinese stuff. Okay, let's play
clip for good. So let's
John C. Dvorak: hold on a second. You said you like to
China so I didn't know you have Chinese stuff?
Adam Curry: Yeah. I don't dislike is I just thought you
were giving up on your clips. And so I said, Okay, I got some
Chinese stuff.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, I see. I miss it. Alright,
Adam Curry: we're gonna form we're gonna for Hell yeah.
John C. Dvorak: So let's talk about technology minute as we
move into the 5g world. There's a lot of concern about Huawei,
of course, and, again, another country, another country that
seems to be stepping away from China, the UK announced that
from next year on it'll be illegal for telecom operators to
buy 5g equipment from Huawei. How do you see that playing out?
Well, I think Huawei is a good example of what's happening in
numerous areas that China focuses upon. Huawei is the is
one which has such enormous national security implications
that it really opened a lot of eyes and made people more aware
of the threat but here's a circumstance where China has
basic They said, Look, one of the technologies of the future
is 5g, we as a government are going to invest massively in 5g
technology. And then we're going to price our products, well
below cost, so that no Western company could possibly compete.
And by virtue of that strategy, they've kept Western companies
from making the investments in new technology and innovation
that would allow the Western enterprises to compete. And so
the telecoms that need equipment are obviously going to buy the
equipment that's low cost, and that has been developed by
China. And this is an approach they have rolled out in industry
after industry, they did it first in steel. Deck decade or
so ago, they had 5% of the world's steel market. Today,
they have 53% of the world's steel market. They didn't happen
to do that, just by skill force on industry, they subsidize
industry. they price their products massively below cost
and drove the Western companies out of business. They have done
that with regards to 5g. But my own view is this. And I, you
know, I, I can't impose this view on our nation, let alone
other nations. But my own view is that on technologies that are
key to our national defense, that we ought to insist that
nations that free nations only buy those products from other
free nations. And the nations that are that are not free, that
are authoritarian, and that our military designs against the
West that they cannot be the source of key products that
become part of our our national defense infrastructure.
Donald Trump don't trust China, China is as HoH
Adam Curry: yep, that's what they did. Now, the UK is trying
to persuade all of the European Union to get rid of Huawei.
John C. Dvorak: No, they probably should. Yeah. But let's
play this last tip be done, you can take over
well, you recall the the comments of Deng Xiaoping a long
time ago where he said that that China should have bide its time
that it should build its strength quietly, and and not if
you will wake up the sleeping giant of the West. And and they
have pursued that strategy for the last decade or so. But in
the last few years, they obviously have recalculated and
said, you know, what we've already established the kind of
strength we need, and we no longer need to hide our hide our
ambition. And so they speak openly of their ambition to
dominate the world economically and militarily geopolitically,
and they're exerting their, their influence and exerting
their military might and their economic might, in part by
saying, there's nothing the West can do about it. And they look
at us, I think it's less a matter of COVID. And seeing us
distracted from COVID. And more a matter of seeing the absence
of American leadership in bringing together the nations of
the world confront the unfair practices that China is
pursuing,
Adam Curry: oh, man, I can't believe it didn't vote for you,
Romney. It would have
John C. Dvorak: been because on the part that you didn't clip
because it's so boring, he talks about how to resolve this. And
he's, he didn't get voted in because I didn't realize it
until I listened to this. He's basically John Kerry. That's
that doesn't get quite as wound up in his own words. He wants to
set up a bunch of committees and let's do some meetings. And
we'll take care of this China thing by getting the other
people to cooperate. We won't be doing things unilaterally now
there was do nothing. But, you know, at least he makes it right
points.
Adam Curry: So I believe now that after five clips of John
Kerry violating the no John Kerry clip rule, I think we
remember why
John C. Dvorak: not John Kerry is Mitt Romney.
Adam Curry: He sounds just like John Kerry was it wasn't a Mitt
Romney. Rule two.
John C. Dvorak: I think, well, we could make it a rule but it
wasn't a rule at the time of this show. To talk a little
slower. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that'll that'll help. Well, he's He's not wrong,
of course. K ball cigar. This is my name for them now, crystal
ball and see, what's his name, Sammy, Sammy, Hagar cigar, just
say cigar. They had on the authors of hidden hands,
exposing how the Chinese Communist Party is reshaping the
world. And I have a quick three clips here from that interview.
I think it's enlightening. As we start off with the influence on
the bushes.
Unknown: One area in particular that I saw, which was cited in
Axios was about influence operations here in the United
States, namely former President George W. Bush, Bush's brother
Neil bush. Could you detail how exactly he's being influenced by
the Chinese regime?
Yes. Well, Neil Bush was targeted by an organization
known as the CPA FFC, the Chinese People's association for
friendship with foreign countries, which has been very
active in the United States mainly at the kind of sub
national level targeting state governors. Since To see the
relationships and that kind of thing, and Neil Bush seem to be
a prominent target. He has business connections in China
and Hong Kong. And he somehow seemed to take on CCP messaging.
And of course, the money started to flow into a think tank that
he was associated with. And the think tanks start to push out
pro Beijing messaging. And Neil Bush himself would go to China
or Hong Kong, for CCP sponsored conferences, and, and really
come mouthy talking points of the CCP as a kind of classic
story of a lead
capture.
Adam Curry: You know, this is going on everywhere. And here's
what bugs me how come we're not getting this treatment? How come
no one has approached us we'd be perfect, perfect to show for the
Chinese,
John C. Dvorak: we'd be everything but perfect. Here's K
Adam Curry: ball asking how it works?
Unknown: Could you give us kind of a bird's eye view of how that
influence works? How does it operate? And what is the
ultimate strategy?
Well, what the CCP does is it puts into place, say, a very
sophisticated and often very subtle process of psychological
manipulation. I mean, I think it's accurate to describe it as
grooming. And they they identify and target key members of
elites, political business, academic elites, as people who
might be induced one way or another to be drawn into the
circle of CCP influence. So they're very much focused on
individuals. It's a very clever and subtle process. And so we
track how this happens. Certainly individuals such as
very prominent academics like Jeffrey Sachs, like former
political leaders, like former Prime Minister Paul Keating,
here in Australia, who somehow get drawn into this CCP view of
the world and get rewarded for it through sinecures through
flattery through meetings with Xi Jinping, and so on.
Adam Curry: So I'm listening to this, I'm thinking, that's not a
big deal. We do that stuff. Everybody does that stuff. I
think that we just do it with hookers, which is probably old,
it's old. Now. You know, it's like, people want money, they
just want cash, they want trips, they want expensive dinners,
they want jets, and hookers just doesn't work anymore. As we wrap
it up with with exactly this question from cigar
Unknown: club, what would you say to people who say this is
relatively benign? You know, country's foreign countries do
this all the time? They try to influence political discussion
around the world. What's really the harm here?
Well, yes, of course, countries, particularly big countries do
try to have influence in in other nations. But there's a
difference between influence and interference. And there's a nice
definition of it here in Australia, which where we're
kind of three years down the track for most other countries
in understanding this. And we define even in our new law
against foreign interference, a foreign interference is
influenced that covert, coercive or corrupt. And so the thing
about CCPs influence, so we're not talking about China here, or
Chinese People's stress that we're talking about the Chinese
Communist Party. It's secretive, it's coercive. And it goes on
behind the scenes, so it's hidden the way it works. So this
is why when we Morocco, and I, for example, in our book, call
people out, they become very upset, because suddenly, the CCP
agents who had been operating undercover, as it were, that his
agents of influence have that had their cover blown and
certainly United Kingdom, for example, two of those people
have sent legally threatening letters claim that we've defamed
them, because, you know, we're telling lies, but in fact, what
we're doing is just lifting the cover off, shining light on the
CCPs activities. And the one thing that CCP loves to do that
is operate in the shadows, which is the wonder of a democracy
with a free press, that we can actually put the spotlight on
them.
Adam Curry: So Australia is all over that they are way ahead of
everybody else. Three years. He
John C. Dvorak: said they're like couple of years ahead. I
agree. Because I've been watching the ABC Australia's I'm
sorry. Maybe on ABC. I'm not sure what his name was 60
Minutes Australia, there's they're all on the YouTube and
they have a lot of China reports and they're all depressing.
China's taking over the entire South China Sea. They're
creating a blockade arena. Yeah. And it's like and then you I
mean, we get to know from from Katherine who says, you know,
I'm a big fan of China and you guys are dating on China. Don't
care. Don't care about China is boring. She says and boring. So
she said my take her serious. This is one of our, our long
term listeners. Well, I think it's like Dame Tanya.
Adam Curry: I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be very
interesting with that damn finally breaks I've been reading
about That for for two months.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Breaking that damage break is gonna be a
huge problem.
Adam Curry: It's like everybody's waiting for the dam
to break is it Now is it
John C. Dvorak: possible that the dam break is like
Yellowstone going off? Yeah that's been hearing for 20 years
all Yellowstone a golf is going to exterminate all human beings.
Yeah, but you probably would if it went off
Adam Curry: the way this this damn story. It's the story about
the dam keeps coming back is odd Do you forget this feeling is
like it keeps it oh yeah, this is crazy is gonna happen like
no, I don't really see it I keep hearing everyone about it's
creaking. It's creaking now, no, I don't think so.
John C. Dvorak: Well, if it goes, it goes, it'll be it'll be
interesting. Yes. You know, Dell all of a sudden put China in a
bind for a while. But yeah, well, that's good that we're
following the China thing, whether anybody likes or not
nobody else is doing it. Or all good reports used to not us.
This is not our opinions. We're deconstructing what we do what
we can, and then we're adding insight where we can. And we're
playing clips of people that are telling us stuff like what
Pompeo did, what Pompeo talked about is non trivial. He is the
Secretary of State. He's an ex CIA guy. He's when he talks to
you should at least listen, he's not a flibbertigibbet. DigiPen
not a flake like they were trying to make him out to be
Adam Curry: flibbertigibbet.
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Adam Curry: And like that little Wuhan,
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News as we don't have a large infectious viral laboratory in
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you were in Holland you dip them in a little bit of mustard. They
usually so hot they burned the roof of your mouth now maybe
anyway, let's bring out the swords for this fine gentleman.
I've got my okay, this is the special Well, you gotta get up
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Adam Curry: the universe.
Lots of meetups happening. Lots of stuff going on. I have a
quick rundown. So actually we have a couple of reports. We saw
some donations come in earlier. We have report from the
doubleheader meetup that was the Road America double header meet
up it was a big success, says Todd squeed Buzz who organize it
in attendance were at least from Detroit, Rio for Madison, aka
little Moscow, Sherry and Eric from Chicago. Not a big but a
fun group. Lisa travelled the farmers by car because she
wanted to see the race track again after being there many
years ago, Rio was there were some friends that even after
getting hit in the mouth were not convinced about no agenda
sharing Eric drove up to enjoy Wisconsin freedom sharing the
group are calling Eric out as a douchebag. me while I flew in
from Portland and represented local 33 to get away from less
Coast stuff. I did attempt to hit my brother in the mouth
earlier over the weekend, but I don't think it's stuck. Thanks
to all for attending. Thanks again. Adam and John for the
best podcast and universe Todd squeak buzz Strobel, from
Vancouver, Washington. Here is an audio meetup report from the
flight of the no agenda W five meetup. Hey everybody, we're
here. Oh, by the way, apparently, either someone was
speaking out of their butt or they recorded this on the phone.
I don't know it has a very unique sound to it.
Unknown: Hey, everybody, we're here at the agenda meetup that's
still practicing. Here's our guest with some words to say.
Hey guys, I'm a douchebag my brother hit me in the mouth and
in the morning to you. Slick Rick. It isn't the Millers here
we're we're the parents of the plague mask girl crazy family.
And we're just having a good time with great people in the
morning. For Annika we are here. We've got slapped in the mouth
by my brother Leo who is hosting this event and in the morning.
My first meeting ever and it gave me a whole load
Adam Curry: a computer the whole load.com Yeah. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: All it was all it was missing from that report
was over. Let me know what over
Adam Curry: a greater seattle post Rhona vitamin D hike meetup
report. We had a number of producers go on a hike. In the
morning Adam and Jonathan meet it was a success. 13 members of
the nogen family hiked Tiger mountain trails in its ACWA on a
beautiful sunny is it triggered no Tiger Tiger Mountain on a
beautiful Issaquah. And in Issaquah on a beautiful sunny
day I got to meet one of them had a great time. My primary
trail choice was still closed due to COVID 19. In hindsight,
picking a trail system with multiple access points was a bad
backup choice. I hope to meet more of the family please don't
disown me on a future hike meet up you got it. Here's a fine
what is this one? This is another report. Audio report.
Everybody. We already had that one. Maybe this was the report
from
Unknown: them. Morning John and Adam. This is the other half of
the post drone a vitamin D meet up in Seattle, Washington. I am
Kelheim still a colossal douchebag and with me is
that this is Bryce and I am shocked at how many people I
just saw on a trail with masks on Hey,
this is Thomas ITM.
I don't listen to the podcast.
Thank you for your courage
Adam Curry: is what's coming up at meetup wise on Wednesday the
city park Denver Museum of Nature and Science John and
Taylor organizing the Denver City Parks sit in at six
o'clock. Friday the Northeast can't southeast London British
summertime meet up that'll be at 330 be registered time
obviously. Bring a cat meme to the real ale way. GW IFF is
organizing and Friday what's cooking Oregon local 33 Six
o'clock. That'll be cooked Park in Tigger details that no agenda
meetup.com Tim is organizing, organizing. And that is exactly
what you want to do. Go to no agenda meetups.com Find a meet
up near you. Go hang out with people who will not condemn you
for anything above all just go hang out, be yourself be clumsy.
No one will care. You'll have a good time we guarantee it no
agenda meetups.com It's kind of
like a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with me you want
to be
like I just got a couple of clips I'd like to share with
some news that I feel was not really broadcast very far and
wide and the first one is about air safety. FAA
Unknown: issued this emergency inspection order to all airlines
and operators with 730 sevens and it all has to do with an
engine shutdown issue. Now the FAA says the problem is so
severe that it could result in what they call a forced off
airport landing and that there have been at least four recent
incidents with these critical engine valves. The issue
happening in part because so many planes have been parked and
not used. During this pandemic, now, here's what the FAA is
saying, quote, corrosion of these valves on both engines
could result in a dual engine power loss without the ability
to restart. This condition, if not addressed could result in
compressor stalls. And that dual engine power loss without the
ability to restart, which could result in a force off airport
landing. And don't forget the 737 right now is one of the most
popular airplanes in service around the world.
Adam Curry: This is why you don't want your airplane sitting
still not doing anything. They really don't get better over
time. This is this is a serious problem.
Unknown: I'd say. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's and it's really just because it's been sitting
out there in the desert or wherever they've been storing
them. That's the problem. So now they have to I mean, it if it
really if the if you have a quit I mean this engine out it's like
a flame out. It's you know, it's completely there's pilots are
trained for this, but it really shouldn't be happening. It
should be should be attended to, I would say, or is this just
another brick in the wall of the Airbus Boeing fight? Who knows?
John C. Dvorak: Well, the desert, all I know is you can go
out to the desert and see where these planes are. And I think
you can just go out there and screw with all the camping.
Adam Curry: People not screw with any guards around
John C. Dvorak: there. I've flown over these areas, and
Adam Curry: they're not screwing with them. You're not You're a
real conspiracy theorist now did it's dust and sand and shit that
gets in the engines. Yeah. Don't trust the pilot, whatever you
do.
John C. Dvorak: I trust the pilot. That's the pilot
manufacturers. Okay. I got one class clip. Okay. Since you
brought them up, you brought up K ball and say guard, I didn't
like K ball, by the way. So they're doing a little report on
the jobless claims, not want to preface it with my kind of take
on this. So the two of them. And I've seen this with other
reporters too, especially Democracy Now. They're all upset
because the jobless numbers have gone up. Because they've been
going down. I mean, going down. They've been going down. They
went up. Right. And of course, this there was a shutdown. And
then we get away from the shutdown. We start reopening
reopening reopening that numbers go better get better and better
and better. And then everybody really shuts down. Yeah. So
consequently, I think the logic would be, yeah, the unemployment
numbers would change for the worse, because now we've gone
back we've retroed on.
Adam Curry: And how about how about California with its 40
million inhabitants who closed all bars and restaurants again,
of course, of course, people want to work now.
John C. Dvorak: So that single go up again. But no, this is a
stunner. Apparently, if you listen to these two,
Unknown: that's I'm breaking news this morning. New jobless
claims rose, for the first time that we've seen during the
pandemic 1.4 million Americans over the past week filed for
unemployment. That's in contrast to 1.3 million last week, which
is where we've been for a few weeks, and this is the eighth
teach straight week in which more than a million Americans
are filing for unemployment.
Yes, but and especially what's concerning about this. This is
from the Washington Post, Heather long, who's an economics
reporter there is that this is actually for the first time and
for the first time that it has risen after 15 straight weeks of
decline. So remember that we had that initial spike and then
things began to trend down we were sitting around 1.3 million
jobless claims filed per week, week, week over week for pretty
much three or four weeks right now. Right? This has the first
time that we've seen the increase
Adam Curry: you know, now that I consider it we've been very
gracious with K ball and se gar we've played a lot of clips.
I've been interested in their reporting a lot of people like
them but so far I've got they've jacked me up over unsealed
documents which are which they haven't reported correctly
really to oh my god about something coming out in a week
and that's not going to happen and and now they're they're just
failed to understand some basics. I think we're I think
we're moving towards a cable and saying our ban on the show.
John C. Dvorak: Well, it's hard to get a ban on them because
they do have some funny material. And it's not like it's
boring, but I think taking them seriously should be banned.
Adam Curry: Let's start there. I'll I'll begin.
John C. Dvorak: And
Adam Curry: we're going to call it a day. For those of you
listening live. Thank you for sticking with it. We had a
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Texas FEMA Region number six in the governmental maps in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C. Dvorak: is from Northern Silicon Valley where things just
drag along I'm John Cena vara we return
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produce another episode of no agenda. Until then. Adios mofos
and such
Unknown: you are about to witness the stupidity of extreme
progressivism.
It's not exactly an inviting image that would draw locals or
tourists to visit. More boards went up today on the federal
courthouse
to port acquisitive, meaning we're who is also the police
commissioner, when there's a riot. He gotta try it in the
crowd. You gotta get out who the people ain't with him. His
police had to go in rescue him. He's just going out. He's a
stupid and so I screaming sauerkraut. What are you doing?
What are you doing? Straight down a port
VT in many places, but especially on the face that held
the elk statute for more than 100 years.
John C. Dvorak: I think I mean mainstream Americans, the silent
majority, actually kind of tired of seeing the anarchy is
destroying our city. And we would like to see the step up.
Unknown: Take care of these people. Downtown Portland,
downtown Portland Street, downtown Portland.
The bed, restaurant and bar owners are going to make it
worse for the Goodwood
7000. restaurant owners to construct makeshift platforms
for outdoor dining, which over the past two weeks have been
perched precariously near traffic. We were not opening
outdoor bars. We were opening outdoor dining. We never said
we're opening Block Party bars. Governor
Cuomo sounds the alarm again worried about younger people
going to bars and spreading COVID-19
That is the only line between anarchy and civilization.
It's just it's tough, because we can't really control what other
people are doing. Outside of this.
We're not going to be able to get anyone inside. For the
foreseeable future. It's even worse.
If it happens, I'll tell you what's going on. We're gonna
have to roll back the ocean. Get associated with I don't know,
there's nothing wrong with I enjoy them. Jimmy, I had nothing
to do with it, except explain the situation to the people of
the state and asked them to do the right thing and step up and
they did.
But it's still not my impulse to say widescale shut down
businesses or widescale fines because I really think that
backfires in terms of what we're trying to achieve getting people
back to work,
I was fortunate enough to be able to collect unemployment. So
that I think, made it a lot easier to get through. But
that's now quickly changing the
number of congregations that we're seeing across the state,
but especially in downstate, primarily of young people, when
I cooked it, they just won't eat it, but they move it around the
dish. And that's all I can ask.
John C. Dvorak: This is a very, very important job. It's really
something that's been great. You need stamina, you need physical
health, and you need mental health stamina, I asked the
doctor I said, is there some kind of a cognitive test
stamina, because I've been hearing about it, because Joe
should take that test. Because stamina and something's going
on. And it's crazy. Oh, he's incompetent. And I say this with
respect. Like a memory question. It's like you'll go person.
Woman, man, camera, TV, person, woman, man. TV, camera, TV. If
you get an order, you get extra points. They said nobody gets In
an order, it's actually not that easy, but for me, it was easy.
Okay, that's because I'm cognitively there, okay? But we
have to have somebody that sharp because I'm cognitive. I can
tell you President Xi is sharp he wants to take over the world
President Putin is sharp, he's going to take over the world.
Everyone is sure he's addicted. And you have to be sharper than
them. Because I want to shut these people up. If you get it
in order, you get extra points. And I got perfect if you get it
in order to get extra points, but as soon as they announced my
score, and their test, former stuff went away about me is he
competent? About 25th amendment and nonsense nonsense. Mofo
boruch.org/a.
Unknown: flibbertigibbet.