Do these big giant prawns man,
Adam curry Jhansi Devorah.
Sunday December 8 2019. This is your award winning give on
nation media assassination episode 1197. This
is no agenda covering the
cop and broadcasting live parallel to runway two seven at
Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley, where the rains have
washed the area clean. I'm Jazzy, Devorah Buzzkill.
You know, I said Amsterdam, but it really, I didn't mean to do
that. It just came out.
Mr. Dom I heard that came out that way. That was I knew you
were meant to say it that way.
Time to leave.
I'm an arm stop. Mr. Tom. Man. I'm
an Amsterdam. Yes, I am another grey rainy day. You've got the
same I hear?
No, no, it's right now it's sunny.
Oh, I thought you said it. The the rain had washed everything
away. It's already done. Yes.
It seems to be done. Now is today
Pearl Harbour day or tomorrow?
The Pearl Harbour day was yesterday was yesterday. Okay.
That was the day. That was a date, a date, a date? That will
something and it'd be there for infamy. I don't know.
Well, you wouldn't know. You wouldn't know. Anything over
here. Did anybody do anything about that in the States?
No. i That's when somebody mentioned it to me in an email
thanking us for doing such a great job on this show. They
mentioned it I said holy crap. I didn't even mention the
newsletters a good thing to mention. So I sent out a load
note.
Yeah, I saw that. And that was appreciated. My grandfather was
in the Navy. Lieutenant Commander and I wasn't at Pearl
Harbour he got lucky on that one. But interesting that it's
completely just been wiped away. Not even mentioned nothing over
here. Not a single thing. Yeah, not even on listen to Nationals
here that I noticed there was just mostly football games.
Yeah. High quality ones too. So that you know who cares about
it? Oh, yeah,
let's just let's just do pretend war. Have the jets fly over. But
let's not remember anything. That's interesting. Well, the
impeachment here is page 17. No one cares.
There is an usuals as I know, they're basically Europe is a
bunch of Trump haters. They
that may be and what's on page 17 is you know the the typical
skewed. I mean, you think it's bad when the US press writes
down what Adam Schiff says. But then have the Dutch making stuff
up the Dutch press then just copies that and translates it to
Dutch and you know, now it's facts. It's how it works. It's
very, very simple system. Very simple. Simple, simple. But
yeah, it's no but nobody cares at all. It seems. The only thing
to see what do I have? What did i What are we learning while I
was here learned a couple
things I wanted to know about which is what was the feeling in
Holland about the Brexit for example. Do you
know it's I would say that the Dutch aren't that interested in
Brexit either. They've got their own crap going on. In fact, the
biggest news here, outside of the fact that the farmers really
are threatening to cut off all supply routes to all
supermarkets, right around Christmas, which people are
like, well, you know, I support the farmers but if they're gonna
ruin my Christmas, then I don't think I like that so much. Of
the support seems to be limited. But the big news is they
announced the coasts of the Eurovision Song Contest.
You get it?
I missed it by a hair John just by a hair. In fact, they had to
get three hosts.
They get three hosts that gave you a better opportunity.
I guess I was not on the shortlist. Oh, hungry, by the
way has pulled out they said we're not participating in this
stupid contest with women with women with beards is what Orban
has said. Remember, it was the
reasonable thing to eat. Lucy has a has a backbone.
It means barely. He's barely coming out and saying it's too
gay. No. Which of course, contests? No, he hasn't done it
yet. But he's, he's literally this is what kind of show is
this?
Point to that.
You gotta give him credit for saying it. I kind of liked that.
But the new phrase here in the Netherlands. Oh, it's hilarious.
I did. And that's also news. You know, it's a small country. And
but the now everyone has to Drive 100 kilometres an hour.
That's the max which was kind of shrugged their shoulders and go
at its her and the grouse a little bit. No one's really
doing much else with it.
We had the same situation in the 1970s in the United States when
the cold when we had that gasoline crisis.
Well, though I was living here when that struck and they had
car free Sundays.
Well, there was that too. Did we
have that in the States? And we didn't have that in the states
do we know. But we had every other day for getting gas and
also for being on the road? Some places? Oh, wow.
Yeah, I remember it was just there was no cars on the road.
It's Sunday. And it seemed to go on for
a year and the leader had no people needed to drive
one way or the other. You know, they're talking about that
again, here. Because, you know, the well we'll get into that in
just a moment because it all has to do with climate change. And
that is the other big news. 25 Cop 25 I have some clips too. I
did want to finish up the Dutch report.
Continue with the Dutch report longer. I don't have that money
for cop 25
I got some good stuff from cop 25. I have a 100% hit rate of
coolness factor with the millennials with my flip phone.
And they love it. Right? They love it. And here's what's
interesting. They say, Oh, man, I'd love to have this phone. I
want this phone and I just keep my other phone, my smartphone,
at home or in my bag or whatever, for Instagram. That's
the main things I can do. Instagram said no. Okay, so now
then, they all love it. They think it's cool. They liked the
idea of not being able to do too much. And of course, they love
the fact that what's app will run on it if you load it.
Because that's the only way you can communicate in this country.
No one uses text message anymore. All of Europe is is all
sold on WhatsApp. It is so disappointing.
I've never used what's up?
Oh, yeah, I've used it. And I got banned from it actually got
banned for WhatsApp. Yeah. Didn't we talk about
that? How do you get banned from WhatsApp?
I was using a Perl a. Perl. What's the other one? A Bye,
Python, I was using a Python library. Because I wanted to
write a script. This was when I was, you know, one of my was
this was probably a year and a half ago. And I was really into
this just before we went on vacation to Mexico, which should
be easy for you to remember because we barely ever go on
vacation. So that's how long ago was and was just after that,
because I'd read this book, automating things with Python.
And I was like, Oh, this is cool. And so there's some
scripts that I still use today, some minor things, but what I
wanted is I wanted to have a Python script that would run on
a server would check to see if there was a WhatsApp message and
then would send that via text message to me. And I and then in
theory, I could respond and it would go back. But I never got
that far. Because the the library that I used, you know,
exhibited abnormal behaviour from what they were would expect
to be hitting the API or whatever, and my number got
banned, boom, done. And I got a note and said You're banned.
There's no way to resolve this. This number may never ever be
used again. So and if you don't have the phone number, that's an
actual cell phone. You can't even register for WhatsApp.
That's how they do it. You guys can only be on one phone at a
time. And so that's the story of how I got banned from WhatsApp.
Well, that's besides being a boring story.
You asked for it. It's deplorable. It's typical. It's
typical is what it is companies
are a bunch of douche bags. They don't even have the wherewithal
so they could maybe resolve something that was a mistake.
You didn't do anything to just screw with them.
Yeah, in fact, I did write a note to info at something or
support or help whatever that helps. Never even replies right
in fact this I don't know how they do it, but somehow that is
electronic messages go right into the shredder. Yeah.
Dev know, as we say and then the final thing from the lowlands
there's the phrase as you know, they they've already co opted
Black Friday. We have Black Friday where they love that you
know as much as they hate America
how do they get suckered into this? I know they pick up all
the hates America, but yet they get suckered Well, the stupidity
of Black Friday where there's no Thanksgiving,
I know. It's just it's a purely commercial vibe and for some
reason they love it. While the Dutch love a good deal, I don't
want to say they're historically cheap asses. But the phrase is a
good deal. The phrase that pays these days in the ever changing
media landscape is binge watch
binge watcher binge watching.
Binge watching,
you nailed it, binge watch it a binge watch it. They finally
figured out binge watching between Black Friday and that
they're doomed. Yeah, they're
taking the worst elements of America. The worst. Sure
I know. I know. He's
maxing them out.
So disappointing is the problem. Yes. All right. That's what I
got. Now, we and then we had a nice family gathering for my
dad. And that was all beautiful. And everybody came and so I'm
ready to go back home. But not before I kick off our cop 25
coverage, which has been wall to wall here. This is what everyone
is
wall to wall on Democracy Now. In fact,
I even got two or three clips from Democracy Now. But the
first one would be from a from the British side.
Now, ocean deoxygenation This is
the big one. Ladies and gentlemen, this is this is what
came out of cop 25. This is what everybody is speaking of. Now,
ocean deoxygenation probably haven't heard of that. But it's
a very big problem. Oceans losing oxygen due to climate
change, which will in turn affect hundreds of millions of
people. According to a new United Nations report,
scientists are calling this the ultimate wake up call to
humanity. Well, the ocean represents 97% of the physical
habitable space. I love
how they bring in a 97% number. Again, this is genius. This is
very good messaging. We have the 97% of all scientists are all in
agreement that the humans are breaking the earth and now they
bring in the the oceans cover 90% of the earth.
The ocean represents 97% of the representative seven it
represents physical habitable space on the planet. It is
central to sustaining all life on Earth. The major drivers the
ocean oxygen loss app.
What the hell's he talking about? He says that the oceans
represent 97% of all inhabitable.
Yes, I was waiting. I was waiting for you to stop me on
that.
Well, I did I stopped you. What is the what? What's he talking
about? This this bull crap is that 97% of the Earth is we're
all living on the ocean. What? What is he saying?
Physical habitable space. Let's
roll it back. And let's listen again because this is the
report. Well, the ocean
represents 97% of the physical habitable space on the planet.
It is central to sustaining all life on Earth. Okay, it
represents
90% of the 790 7% of the habitable habitable if you're a
fish that isn't interesting little statement you got there
anyway, we continue.
The major drivers of ocean oxygen loss are climate change
and nutrient pollution. With the latter affecting a coastal area
scientists a rising sea temperature caused by carbon
dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions is leading to oxygen
depleted zones. The report found the loss of oxygen from the
world's ocean is increasingly threatening fish species such as
tuna, Marlin and sharks.
Oh, it's just horrible. And this was this was the headline. This
was what they were jamming down our throats. I'm not quite sure
what it has to do with climate change other than the one of the
authors of the report the spoke soul was everywhere. she I think
she did a news hit on every network from I saw her on Well,
I didn't see it on CNN International, I don't think but
she was on EURO NEWS. She was on France. 24 she was on Sky News,
Al Jazeera and she and you just look at her and you already
don't like her. I'm just telling you when you see her Mina Epps I
think is her name. She's a big AOC glasses was take rims and
red red wearing red hair tied back big. Those big rock like
Nancy Pelosi necklaces and the ones with the big stone. What is
up with that? Why do women think that's cool? Does that look
cool?
Well, it's replaced pearls.
That's what it is. Look, I'm not wearing pearls. Is that the
idea?
I think that might be it. I'm not sure this never I kind of
agree with you. I think most iterations of this director are
some fine iteration. Is that are nice, but most iterations are
ugly.
It's what you expect on Madeleine Albright? You know,
it's like anyway. So
what's your girl's name? Again? Mina, Mina
Epps. Here she is. So it's a different she's the I can tell
you exactly what she is. She's the director of Global marine
and polar programmes, whatever that is, here we
go. So it's a different type of crisis is the crisis of the
ocean? And you're absolutely right that it has been missing
from the climate change negotiation, and very much been
focused on what's been going on at land. So I think it's very
notice she says, it's been missing from the climate change
negotiation, which is a little different from the climate
change conversation, or the reporting or the fear mongering,
it's clearly being used as a chip in the negotiation. I don't
know, what are we negotiating about? Is it something I missed?
Is this about the money a bet you
have been missing from the climate change, negotiation, and
very much been focused on what's been going on at land. So I
think it's very timely. This is a blue cup. And finally the
ocean.
Now, tell me what she's saying here. This is a blue and I can't
hear the word I listened several times.
Go over it a couple of times, we'll get it.
So I think it's very timely. This is a blue cup. And
I know what it sounds like,
but it can't be it. It was the blue Cox.
That's the blue caulk. But what is a blue caulk?
Well, I don't know if you've been to Portugal, maybe
land. So I think it's very timely, this is a blue cup. And
finally, the oceans, which contains 97% of living space is
getting the attention that they deserve. So what we're seeing,
or what we've seen is actually a decline in 2% of the global
oxygen level have been reduced by 2%. And it doesn't sound like
a lot. But just these two small changes will have enormous
implications. But within that is actually masked a lot of
regional differences. So we can take an example of the south
southeast coast of California in the deeper waters, we've seen a
decline in 30% of oxygen level in the last 25 years. Oh, that's
right by you. So how does this all affects the you know, like
the ocean and ultimately us, and because we're depending on if
all the regulatory systems. So deoxygenation will have an
impact on biodiversity on biomass of commercially
important species, and vulnerable species or rare
species, but also habitats. So those oxygen rich and which are
favourable conditions, as to some species will shrink, these
are shrinking these habitats. But also we are altering the
energy and biochemical cycles within the ocean and that do
you this bull crap, do you hear I mean, she said nothing that
makes any sense whatsoever that blah, blah, blah, that oxygen
brah last blue, that
means these upwelling systems, which are absolutely crucial to
sustain these fisheries, that's bringing the nutrient rich
waters here, to the surface areas. So we're seeing that
species are migrating because of this, the IUCN did is that we
work with 67 different experts around the world, putting
together this report looking at this cumulative impact, but also
the linkages to climate change. So this is all those different
parts of the puzzles are coming together. And of course, climate
change has an amplifying effect to these issues. We're already
seeing the changes and they're drastically all the alterations
that we've done to the oceans. So what
I see here is a hijack. It's a hijack. Some other group came in
they
said the ocean people are trying to get into the action. Yeah,
the blue the blue Cox, they're coming in they want some action
and then what does she say at the end? Well, of course we're
looking at the linkages between this and climate change climate
changes so it's not really a part of your climate change
story yet she's the star of the show.
That just started the show here Well, no, but I can't even find
her on the on the on the YouTubes or the Google's really,
really not spelling her name writer so
well, I don't know how to spell it's Mina EPS e PPS, let me just
Mina Nope, that doesn't look right. Oh, yeah. Mina EPS M I N
N A double N double P Mina EPS. Hey in this Yes, yes.
All right. Now gets closer. Oh, her.
Have you seen her before?
She's like a stereotype.
Yeah, put that put a beanie on her. A green one. And have her
go stay in a red
one on she'd be like Meg
she's a bit like Meg.
She's got these big stones around her neck.
Yeah. Yeah, I told you told you told you she's all about Smile
got the biggest mile. Yeah, Mm hmm. Well in the intelligent
hipster glasses,
while you're looking, I shall play you the report that
everybody's buzzing about. And of course, the reason why we
have to drive 100 kilometres an hour max here in the country why
the farmers have to cut their output by 50% because the
results
are in and Europe is failing climate. The European
environment agencies report shows that the EU could do
better when it comes to curbing emissions.
Many of the targets which we set for ourselves for 2020 will not
be reached. So you could say no, we are not on the right road, we
should implement better. And if we are serious about the funded
lion agenda towards the Green Deal, and the sustainable
development. You
notice, by the way, they talk here of a Green Deal, not the
green New Deal, just the Green Deal, which we're obviously
unaware of. And if we assume we know we've heard this before the
Green Deal just by itself, okay, well, I forgot
meant better. And if we are serious about the funded lion
agenda towards the Green Deal, and the Sustainable Development
Goals, we will also have to come up with really new policies.
Oh, yes, the current role. Yes,
greenhouse gas emission will reach 4000 megatons, equivalent
co2 by 2030. With a bit of effort, the EU could reduce its
emission to almost 3500 megatons at the same date, and then
achieve carbon neutrality by 2050. If Europe wants to get
serious about going green, there is one sector that can't be
ignored transport, this
black spot remains essentially on the issue of greenhouse
gases. And today, the transport sector has emissions that are
30%, higher than those of 1990.
Over the last four years, greenhouse gas emissions from
transport have started to rise. Again, faced with the scale of
the task, the European agency stresses that solutions do
exist, technologies are available, but it also insists
on the full implementation of EU policies.
Yeah, so what they're saying there is Europe you failed. This
is why the Dutch all of a sudden work because they all want to be
the best of the class, the politicians, they all want to
look good in Brussels. Look at what we did. We made our stupid
slaves drives drive slower. Yeah, we'll get them we need new
and innovative ways of curbing our carbon emissions. Don't
drive slave everybody has to go electric turn all the cabs all
around the whole country will all have to go electric. It's
gone. They've gone crazy here. And people just like to do doo
doo doo doo doo doo. Okay, that's all fine. So I'll take us
up to cop and you guys know you have clips, I want you to jump
up to clips. And it's really less about cop and more about
the underlying currents that are going around this thing.
Let me take us to Madrid first. Now this was you know, there's
been lots of people out on the street and they they're running
around and it's a very, very, very big deal. So they're
getting a lot of coverage
they're spraying and with with those high pressure hoses,
they're rioting in the streets of Madrid thanks to this
operation. So here are the pros. Remember the Spanish guy says
hey, because there's supposed to be in Chile Yeah. He says come
on over do it in Madrid will love to see and then it's gonna
cost the citizens of Spain a lot of money
well, they're there and they have a new chance that I picked
up it could not be yes it's a you did you saw the new chant.
I think it's the same one I mean it's like I guess if you want to
call it new but it's formulaic but go on
people people people people God the power to power our people
you got me not heard I heard just yelling the same old
formulaic whatever you want.
No I like this. People have the power is standing there like
like she's
lying socialists.
Sheep being sheep being sprayed by water cannons. People have
the power crush.
You get the power. Here's your power right
here. Oh, down So then Greta arrived in now she arrived in
Lisbon.
Before went to the wrong place.
She was on a catamaran or something, or the guy
that they flew over so they can guide you to go right
now. So I have a couple of bits here. Now this was from
Democracy Now. I checked, these are not your clips. And this was
also before, I guess, Amy went to whatever secret studio she
had.
This is
right, the climate justice speech what this is, and this is
kind of the the overall theme here. It's somebody pleased to
think of the children, just like they have to have Greta, of
course, but they've got 100 kids, and all of them are cute.
You know, they're all in the 15 year old range living, it's
1315. You know, they're well spoken there. They're angry.
They're mad, they're really mad, and they're up on the podium,
and they're mad, and they're just mad. So here is the speech.
We are a youth movement that fights for climate justice, we
fight for climate justice, because our house is on fire.
And because our house is on fire, we've organised in strike
for the climate, together with 1000s of students many times
this year, our demands are simple. In Portugal, we need to
reach carbon neutrality by 2030. We need to keep fossil fuels
including gas on the ground, we need to provide clean energy for
all and we need to cancel new airport projects. Montes, you
included.
This is interesting. Monty Zhu is brand new airport that
they've been planning in Portugal, which is going to be
massive for runways. And they want to make it the hub for
cheap airlines, which I think is economically probably a really
good idea. Yeah, yeah. Well, not for these kids. They apparently
they don't want they don't want cheap flights, no cheap flights.
Because we need a system change, not climate change. system
change, we are still far from winning. We know that change.
This serves the ones in power. They tell us our country's
ambitions in climate policies. But we know it isn't. They tell
us they are doing what they can. But we know they're not. But we
also know that this is the struggle of our generation. And
we will not give up. We all have raised like a wave to demand
climate justice for and we need everyone to join us. If we lose,
everybody loses. Now we are like Greta, heading to cop 25 will
meet with 1000s of climate activists from many countries,
including the global South, there will be protesting once
again against the priority given to profit over our lives.
Now. Of course, these kids they do they do realise that
politicians are full of crap. I like that part where they say
these guys will take profit over our lives any day. That's good.
And you should know that because of course that's true. It's just
been misguided. That's the sad part.
The seas are rising. And so are we. Thank you for having inspire
the youth. You're being radical in your speech. Thank you for
showing politicians and corporations that will no more
except the climate chaos. They've provoked Greta, don't
stop. Because together we are going to change the system and
the main climate justice for all. We are the ones we have
been waiting for. And we will put out the fire in our house.
Thank you.
Now, what was now that was just kind of to give you an idea of
these kids, and then they went on the train with Greta to
Madrid. That's how they got there. But the UN Secretary
General also spoke and he said something new, which I think is
we got to figure out exactly what it means or how it will be
implemented.
This is Antonio Gutierrez, who is the UN Secretary General.
what is still lacking is political will. political will
to put a price on carbon political will to stop subsidies
on fossil fuels.
This to me was a winner Bosch fossil fuels. I mean, it's so
good. He doesn't even know how good it is. Yeah, if you if an
American did that, it'd be like, Oh, genius fossil fuels. Right.
But that's not the thing that I was talking about.
political will to stop subsidies on fossil fuels. The political
will to stop building coal power plants from 2020 onwards,
political will to shift taxation from income to carbon, taxing
pollution instead of people. We simply have to stop digging and
drilling, and take advantage of the vast possibilities offered
by renewable energy and nature based solutions.
So we need to shift from taxation of carbon instead of
taxation of income. This is a big idea.
Well, it's a big idea. It's a bit specious. I would say the
course. They never removed taxes, you end up taxing carbon
and income at the end. Yes. And at the
at that time of the day, the end of 24 hours. Yes. And
but what is the
taxing carbon? What does this mean? Well,
if you put a price on carbon,
I mean, let's Well, let's start with the American economy. I
think we bring in a trillion dollars in tax, income tax,
money, something like that. Yeah. Remember the exact number
I wrote it up in that essay? How are you gonna get debt by taxing
carbon? Especially when everyone's like running away
from it?
Well, that would be the idea. The idea is you emit X amount of
carbon and we calculate that by the type of vehicle, you drive
the type of house you heat or and or cool if you eat meat, so
you get a number, you get a score. And that score is what
you're going to be taxed on. So the idea is just like Bloomberg
always says, you know, it's like, we've got to tax the poor
people, so they don't kill themselves, in this case, so
they don't kill the earth.
Well, this is one of these things where well, how do you
tax this without creating an onerous system of monitoring?
What I came up with,
it may be the idea, John, no,
that is what I came away from. I only have two clips from from
the operation. And as Amy introducing the situation, in
the process of her telling us why they're doing this thing in
Madrid instead of I think it's Valparaiso, or one of the places
in Chile where, I don't know someplace in Chile, they were
supposed to do it to Chile and the guy the President says, No,
we don't want this as a hassle. It's
not a good time for me, right? It's not a good time for me
right.
Now is not a good time for me to have riots in the streets
without you guys here to make it worse. So of course that does.
Amy just accuses him of being a right wing guy. Yeah, of course,
ball that doesn't want to doesn't want to deal with
climate change when when he's got more to deal with. She
doesn't address it, honestly. But there's a bunch of things
she does bring into the picture, which is this and I think that
last clip that you played is representative of this idea,
which is to to get his population control. One World
Government, let's change let's bring, you can't do climate
change without social justice. I don't know how much of this you
got over there. But just the idea of linking the two is
become very apparent. Can I
can I can I binge watch social justice.
So let's just play clip one year,
we're broadcasting from Madrid, Spain, where the United Nations
Climate Change Conference known as
you know, I'm sorry, gotta stop. She sounds like I'm broadcasting
live from the surface of the moon. I want you to know how
important this is. It's good to get that vibe from her. She's a
little more chipper in that way.
loves going to these events and becoming the only you know she
broadcasts from from there and there. She's like a minor
celebrity.
Oh, yeah. Does she have her big rock necklace on? Amy? Amy has
one of those. You know, she does.
Yeah, but she wouldn't wear in the television
for broadcasting from Madrid, Spain, where the United Nations
Climate Change Conference known as cop 25 began Monday and will
continue through next week, as environmental leaders from
around the world gathered to negotiate global solutions to
the climate crisis. The summit was supposed to be held in
Santiago, Chile, but the country's right wing President
Sebastian Pinera cancelled the summit just over a month ago
amidst massive protests against economic inequality and
austerity. Spain's President Pedro Sanchez then offered to
host the summit. activists have converged in Madrid for the
summit and are hosting an alternative summit of their own
goombay sociol por el Colima, the social summit For the
climate, the alternative summit has been organised by social
justice and environmental groups to draw attention to the ongoing
political repression in Chile, of corporate influence on the
climate summit Spain's own failure to address the climate
crisis and the Eurocentrism of the Climate Conference, which is
being held in Europe for the third year in a row. The
alternative summit begins Saturday morning that's tomorrow
at the University of Madrid and will kick off tonight with a
climate march through the city centre.
This is very encouraging what I'm hearing here it is because
the apparently a group has figured out that this climate
negotiation, which I've never heard these cops, called climate
negotiations, but obviously what they're doing is the negotiating
money, which will go to industry, government coffers
people who already have
Thank you. They're going to take money from poor people, and from
taxpaying people and give it to people who already have money.
Yes. And they figured it out. And that's why now, of course,
that they put that under the banner of social justice, which
is, you know, we know will be a co opted, misguided mission that
always seems to be, but it's encouraging that at least people
see the bullcrap for what it is.
Well, I know but, but these people, the social justice
warrior, splinter group,
does. splinter groups don't intergroup Yes, good. Good.
So you have a splinter group coming up in there, and they're
marching and writing and then making those chants as you went
earlier that you had there was one of their chants.
Yeah, they have people power man behind beans votes for the
people power.
And, and they are protesting that regular cop thing, even
though Amy can't get her head around that because the social
movement operation which has a warehouse nearby, put her up in
her and put us Oh,
that's where she was. Judy, Judy.
She's all well, she's. In her case. It's hard to say what she
is. But she's, she's very happy and joyful, that she's been
chosen one chose important.
Clip to kind of brings a little of that in.
We're broadcasting from the convergent space that activists
are using as a hub for their organising. It's a union hall
and former monastery that today is covered in colourful protest
art and bustling with organisers that have pulled the alternative
summit together with only a few months notice. So we're right
here in the Cumbria, sociol in the social summit for the
climate with one of the organisers Tom hearts. He's a
journalist and activist with ecologists and action. It's
great to be with you. Welcome to Democracy Now. Tom, as we sit
here, we this place is surrounded by posters, maybe we
can do a broad view of the walls. It says Plaza de los
pueblos, the plaza of the people survey, most la tierra, save the
Earth as well. Let's decolonize
that is a very important issue. We have a huge historic debt
with millions of people who were slaves from Africa to America,
and never have been just as about that. So the issue of anti
racism and anti communism is very important for the March
also today at six in the afternoon. So, hopefully 1000s
of people who are gathering in this very important
tell us about this place that we're in it is a former
monastery
more than 500 years ago, but it was a trade unions building
since the 80s. Yeah, that was slick.
Yeah, he's going on about reparations, and on and on, he
says slaves could have gone on for days. And she made him stop,
because it was like becoming too obvious what's actually going
on. I mean, she's the one who invited him on, she has no
reason to cut him off like that. But this is what's going on.
There's a bunch of these, these lunatics that are just a bunch
of communists be kind of honest about it. And this means loaded
with them. I mean, we probably have a number of communist
Spanish Spanish communists that listen to our horror show. I
hope so. But this, but when they start going on and on, there's
no discussion by this guy. But climate change is about
reparations. Yeah, yeah, injustice, and that's
the negotiation of money. That's the negotiation right there in a
nutshell. Okay, we got to negotiate. Hey, what's this
number? 25 already? Where's our piece of the pie? What do you
guys negotiating?
And there's already a lot less
a guy a lot of this triggered was it began in Chile. A couple
of major oil and gas companies apparently sponsored. Part of
cop 25 They threw in a bunch of money which you'd think that
they'd be happy to get this money from these people because
they're dirty and dirty money but as soon as as soon as the
money came in then all these socialists start demanding that
this is CO option and we do we don't want your money right and
all this sort of thing has become a an issue now usually
have this splinter
group sounds like somebody wasn't invited to the exon party
is
exactly right.
Hey, man, that party it up over their
cocktail. They had these big giant prawns man. Exactly. And
they were on ice. There's a big giant thing and they're on ice
and they're all spread around. And the cocktail sauce was
delicious. You grab one of these giant shrimp and dip it in this
sauce and it was good. You're
making me hungry.
This thing is so often the same
10 to seven here I haven't eaten.
Big giant prawn.
So and it was Michael Zed, who sent me this whole whole hour of
one of Amy's reports. And she interviewed some, some other
teenagers. Here's another Swedish teenager, always fun to
laugh at accents and kids.
So I should say as we're speaking here, your pal Greta is
in Lisbon. She's just made landfall. And she is about to
actually speak out. They're speaking first at the news
conference. So how excited are you if she does begin to speak
as we're doing this segment? And
we'll have to shut you up because you're not important.
We'll go directly
live to her. Your father's a scientist? Yes,
yes. So I've always grown up with lots of scientific talking
around the house. And it's made me really curious to learn more.
This kid is programmed.
What do you think of our precedent? President Trump in
the United States saying climate change is a hoax?
Well, yeah, listen to the United science. It's it's their
responsibility to read up and educate themselves, oh, leaders
of the world.
This kid is so programmed with a new term United science. You've
got to listen to the United science, she said.
Do you think that is yes, a new drum? I think she flew on that
one on her own.
Well, I like it. United science is a good one. I like In fact, I
wrote it down.
In science.
Here's the second one. Hang on
your science.
Dan timecode noted.
What message do you have for world leaders?
Listen to what the science is saying. Do we need to
drastically reduce our carbon footprint and take care of our
environment? It's your responsibility to do that. But
not put it on us? We can't wait any longer.
Oh, poor kids. Poor kids.
Can't wait any longer. What does she does her foot on fire? I
mean, what's going on houses on
fire? Her house is on fire that she's been programmed
the fire department over there and put the fire out.
That's what that's what Greta is doing. Greta is there to put out
the fires.
Maybe some in some far distant future if you're going to look
back on this Greta phenomenon and wonder how exactly how
insane Well, let's bring this era
now that I'm glad you brought this up as a kid. I'm glad you
brought this up. Because it's very easy for us. Boomers,
although Sorry, I have to stop it for a moment. I now have
official official Boomer cut off date. You are not a boomer if
born after August 23 1964, nine months after Kennedy was shot.
So I beat me being September 3 I'm actually a Gen X er but I'll
for purposes of this show. I'll be a boomer because it's more
fun than
the world's oldest Gen X sir. Yes. The OG
Gen Xers that's me. But I remember all the things that
we've been told would kill us. And and I'm not we're not I'm
not alone. I didn't know that. He was still doing shows. But
John Stossel, who I think he was he was on Fox for Fox News. And
then he was kind of pushed off to Fox Business News. And now
he's on YouTube. But he's still doing
Wait Wait This could she at least give the guy a little more
credit than that. John Stott was a regular on on the big board
network. He was on ABC ABC.
You're right. He was on ABC three
years and years and years and years. But the problem was,
apparently he was a Republican. Well, he may be they can have
Republicans doing these shows because apparently he liked to
throw his two cents words in once in a while.
Well, he didn't even opt for the typical RT deal, which is what
you do when you get thrown off mainstream when you
get kicked off Fox. We couldn't get any traction on Fox because
I didn't want to stop for a second. We put our executive
hats on hold for a minute. Sure thing. He never really was a fox
type. He always looked like a network type. He looked like
there is a network type. This is why I don't think a lot of
Logan's gonna do very
good hair. You're right. It's the hair. It's the whole it's
but also the stalls. He's also he also may be a bit too honest
for Fox. I mean, he's, he's, I've always thought he was a
pretty decent guy. I thought he always kind of
like it. His whole thing was he was like the original Tucker
Carlson in terms of being a gas that he found out that these
horrible things have been going on. Can you believe it? That the
public's been getting screwed? Yeah, Holy mackerel, I can't
believe he was, you know, he was just just this type of guy. And,
but he's always had that network deal, the biggest three network
look, ABC in particular. And we had a local newscaster here that
was one of these people. I can't remember her name. She was here
a long time ago, but she was a big shot ABC type doing one of
those, you know, shows where you have two or three people yakking
about some story 60 minute clone. And she quit and became a
local news reader here. And she couldn't do it. Because she was
no you could see that she was a national type couldn't work
local. Be Local. And I think the same thing is true with Fox.
There's only been a very few network people. And there have
been a few network people from the Big Boy networks to Fox that
have moved over and been very comfortable over it. Well, who
who Stossel is not one of them. No. But
who did move over?
Oh, there's a bunch of lesser guys. They're mostly field
reporters and I could think of a few names. I'd have to go look
him up. But there's a there's more than a few that are at Fox.
It used to be at ABC or CBS.
Well, Stossel is doing his his same show basically on YouTube.
And someone pointed out to me, and I just pulled the first 35
seconds because it did kind of put me on to an idea.
That's environmental catastrophe bearing down on us. I keep
hearing that we're killing the earth. How dare you.
You have stolen my dreams and my childhood. But wait,
I've been a consumer reporter for years I've covered so many
scares, plague, famine and perpetual war will kill us.
We're gonna run out of oil. Nuclear power will give us
cancer, killer bees swarm ever closer. bird food, flesh eating
bacteria. The list of terrible things that we're going to get
us is long, and yet we're living longer than ever. None of those
scares turned out to be as frightening as the warnings. But
I'm told global warming is different.
entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the
beginning of a mass extinction.
So you know, Stossel is probably a boomer, I think he's he's
probably about my age. I don't know if he's older or younger.
But I agree and I just wanted to take us down a little short trip
down memory lane. When I was krytus. Age is what I'm calling
this segment today when I was gret, as age 1978. I was
Sasa was born in 47. Oh, Stossel
big Boomer. Boom, boom, boom, boom, dharma. He's up in your
neck of the woods Boomer
and so he that's why they kicked him off the air
because he's old age. Exactly. They just fought and and he did
a report on 5g. I know he did. So old 5g You're out. That's it
done. You don't fit anymore. But when I was gret as age, and this
was my my segment 1978 I was 14 So just a little bit younger,
but when Greta started she was she was that age when I was
great as age. This is what I was being scared with.
In 1977. The worst winter in a centuries but the United States
did cold rip the Midwest for weeks on it. Wait blizzards
paralyse the cities of the Northeast? One desperate night
in Buffalo, eight people froze to death in maroon cars. That
personnel was on the road at night.
Traffic just absolutely stabbed and was afraid of being stuck in
the car all night long with the cold and the wind running out of
gas. And then what? I think that if we have to go through a real
bad winter Just like we just went through, I think we'd have
to think about moving someplace else.
Move where the brutal buffalo winter might become common all
over the United States. climate experts believe the next Ice Age
is on its way. According to recent evidence, it could come
sooner than anyone can expect.
To die at weather stations in the barn door, temperatures have
been dropping for 30 years. Long free of summer ice are now
blocked year round. According to some climatologists, within a
lifetime, we might be living in the next Ice Age. Now,
if you don't think that didn't worry me as a kid, it did. And
it was only one show that I'm highlighting here. We didn't
have the internet. Did you catch the voice? By the way? Did you
recognise the authority boy a little bit? Yes, Leonard Nimoy
Dr. Spock,
there's little doubt that someday the ice will return. At
least a time in the past million years. It has advanced and
retreated with Clockwork regularity. Clockwork we are
unprepared for the next advance. The result could be hunger and
death on a scale unprecedented in all of history, precedented.
What scientists are telling us now is that the threat of an ice
age is not as remote as they once thought existential threat
during the lifetime of our grandchildren. arctic cold and
perpetual snow could turn most of the inhabitable portions of
our planet into a polar desert.
So I just play this for the people who are young, who are
like these old boomers Shut up. We've been through this kids.
This is one time where it makes sense. We've been through this.
We've been through all of it. And it was the exact opposite.
And it was the same people, John
Holdren for what is actually one or two guys, apparently two very
famous guys from that era. I mean, most of the guys have
switched your sides to go to the other way, because that's where
the money is. Yeah, but there's still one or two holdouts. Oh,
yeah, that still think we're going into an ice age which I've
gotten.
I'm with him. I've been so affected by Leonard Nimoy from
my youth that I'm still I am still believing. I believe it
can be it can be true. So and that's what the media does. And
everyone's happy because the climatologists get money,
Leonard Nimoy got money, however, produce this series got
money. Is this lots of money? No know, a lot of dough in this.
So I think, well, yeah, they still get to the bottom of why
this is so important to so many people. And it's definitely
population control.
Oh, well, that's always in that thing. I think even mentioned 5
billion people on the planet are all going to perish. They're
going to die eventually.
Mass extinction. Extinction. I'm surprised them as a cohort what?
What ecosystems have collapsed? She said there's ecosystems are
collapsing. Yeah. Well, which ones?
I don't know. Now that I'm sure there's some bug.
And some bugs you find it some Bowman, annoying? Girl. Yes. Oh,
I know, it's two quickies before we move on to unless you have
anything else on cop 25.
No, I'm good. I'm good with cop 25. I'm sure I'll have more next
show got a note
from one of our producers who shall remain anonymous. I've
worked in the marketing department at Walmart for 20
years. I know who this is. And he says we met at the
Fayetteville meetup some years back. I can confirm that Walmart
has never paid off a layaway for a native ad. Walmart is way too
cheap. Walmart would never spend the money when they're a good
Samaritans willing to do it. Nice theory, but false. However,
I'll pitch it in the next meeting. That's a no agenda
producer for you. You do that? I find it hard to believe I still
think it may be the might find
it hard to believe too. I mean, sometimes you can be working for
a company you don't really understand corporate
well, but he's used to using the corporate marketing. So he's
well yeah. And then this was very, very good tip from
producer Jonathan. telling me about you know how I solved the
problem with the with the robot coffee machine. He says, Oh,
just go in any gas station, buy a $25 prepaid Visa card, like
okay, thanks. Yeah, a lot of a lot of effort to go through for
to not get spanned by a robotic coffee machine, but it's the
second part of his note. That is in Tristan, this is a an
official no agenda, travel tip travel tip travel tip as a
secret side benefit and don't let this get out, he says,
you can let your to yield travel tip,
no agenda travel tip. Don't let this get out. You can use this
card now in flight on any airline. And by whatever you
want, it will always be approved if it had any balance at all,
and you will enjoy your drinks and food for free. Apparently,
they're storing swipes only in the air due to the unreliability
of plane data and it also slows down the process. So they only
run them when they're in cellular range. They prefer a
small loss in the lesser known fringe cases in exchange for
easy sales in the sky. No agenda tip and it's not traceable to
you.
This is a this is a larcenous it's not the snap larcenous only
larcenous
I'm just saying that if you run out of money on your card you
didn't you know, it's sometimes not a big deal. Is that a better
way of expansion? ISIL
hit the old Duty Free Store in flight. Get some of these pearls
for my girlfriend. Hey, she'd
like this big rock necklace. Wait, you have a girlfriend?
I'm just
sorry. Sorry. I thought that was really funny. Okay, we do not
recommend this. This Larson this tip.
Hey, fascinating tip though.
Yeah. So on the on the heels of there being quite a faction of
people believing that drudge Matt Drudge has sold the Drudge
Report. And that someone else is now running it and he hates it
and he hates it hates Trump or whatever. I have never really a
deal book and Drudge Report. I've never really gone there.
I think 1015 years ago I used to hit it was just a linked list. I
mean, it's just there's no reporting in there. Generally,
once in a while there's something most I'm just links to
other stuff.
I think it's because he never did an RSS feed that I just
never followed. It's like get a feed together man.
I never did that. So he sold it
well, that's that's the that's what the word is. And well so
the reason why I bring it up because I don't care. Is that a
fan site of the Drudge Report in the fan site has 1.3 million
followers tweeted the best podcast in the universe with
Adam curry at the real divorce tech hashtag ITM and a link to
no agenda. show.com
Oh, nice.
Yeah. And then the gap guys jumped to new listeners. Yes.
And then the gap guys jumped in. And then they got a couple
100,000 So it's like we know. It's nice. We got we got some
link love was probably all bots. Who the hell knows? Is all bots.
1.3 million bots. I don't know. I don't know if there's any. Any
anything going on there?
Yeah, that's kind of the problem.
Yeah. And let me see if I have anything else. Oh, yes. I did
have three more things. I want to mention. A beautiful
Christmas animated no agenda is out if you haven't seen it. I'm
sure you have. You saw it. It's I mean, it is. And it really is
something for the producers. Because if you don't know our
language, then you're not even going to understand what they're
saying. But it's great job. Beautiful. Thank you, Jennifer.
Damn, Jennifer. I have a new search engine to try out. Oh,
yeah, you might like this as well. It's Swiss cows.com. And
they're in Switzerland. You know, they have a big no data
tracking, storing promise. And they have a lot of you know,
that's pretty much what they are. They are an AI company. So
they sell AI solutions. And they have some some interesting
little widgets in their search engine. But my point being it
doesn't seem to track you. They pledge they don't, they're in
Switzerland. And it's fast and it gives you good results. So
it's something to try
something to and that just came to will give it to once over
give it a once over. And the final thing Oh yes. I came up
with a name I was waiting for this will probably take us into
impeachment. Dave Winer, my co inventor of podcasting. He blogs
a lot all the time then you know, and I subscribe to his
feed although somehow I get his stuff 18 times I don't know how
many feeds he has and stuff was messed up in my aggregator but
he is complete. He is like your lip Joes. She's completely off
the rails about Trump thinks Nancy Pelosi would be the best
president ever. But the thing that got me the thing that got
me is he now claims that NPR is clearly now being run by
Republicans. Because he didn't like the NPR reporting on some
of the impeachment hearings. And he just kind of oh, this I have
to find an alternative source NPR is now it's just all all
Republicans. I'm like, what do you call a guy like Dave Weiner?
Because I'm looking for you know, you have your lib Joe's I
don't have any Joe's. And by the way, for people who don't
understand or are new, the lib Joe's is the Joe's are
journalists. And these are two friends of John's who are semi
retired, but they're the big boys. They've written for the
big, big publications for the big papers. But they go unnamed
further. And they're there. We don't like to the term lib tard
so lib Joe makes more sense. And so I was looking for a name for
a guy like Weiner, and then it hit me.
lib Dev.
Oh, that's actually a good name. It's a great there's a tonne of
lib, lib devs here in the Bay Area. Yeah, that work at Google.
Our goal? You know, it's
it's also it's also it's also
Jack Dorsey. Yes, lib
Dev. Exactly. lib Dev. And lib Dev is also you know, if you
ever get into your Linux package manager, you'll see a lot of
libs and devs. So it's kind of as a triple meaning. But yeah,
it's like lib Debs. And that's what we got to be on the lookout
for because they're everywhere. And they're and they're also
trying to change. open source development itself. You know,
removing terms like master and slave from your, from your
projects from your master
slave arrangement. Yeah.
From your GitHub. It's crazy.
Anyway, I don't know what to do about male and female plugs.
Oh, there's all kinds of issues and
75 different kinds of plugs. Yeah.
You mean like regular plugs, plugs, plugs?
75 genders. Gotcha. Sorry. I'm out of control.
No, not really. Let me see. So where are we at? You know what,
I'll tell you what I'd love to why don't we tease when we tee
some, some 25 for 45 stuff.
Whatever that means.
That's impeachment. The 25th for the 45th president Hello, will
tell you some. So coming up in just a minute we're gonna do
some impeachment stuff. But first, I'd like to thank you for
your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put
the seat in cop 25 John's
in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry. Also in the morning all
ships to see boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the
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people liked it. And this was the dog smoking the pipe.
Yeah, no smoking pipe. Now why did we choose this one? Because
it was the best piece that was there. And we knew it would pop.
Well that is there's always the big pop. We like the let me see
what else did we like? Yeah, there's, you know, there was
some funny stuff but if you make really small letters, won't it a
doesn't pop and it just you can't read it. It's always a
shame.
Try look at your take your art and make it put it on a 250 by
250 and see if you can read it now. 256
I think is I see already comics read blogger has done a
permanently banned from what's app art for this show. And
that's how it works. We've got artists who are listening to the
show live in real time creating art pumping it out. I mean, you
can almost just watch just refresh that page as an extra
piece of entertainment as we're doing the show. Sadly, we can
only choose one and we do that at the end. Right after the
show. We choose title with little opening segment and the
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and Associate Executive Producers just like Hollywood,
except you don't get hookers and blow you get your note read and
your jingles played fair trade.
Yes, and here they are. This is the Executive Associate
Executive producers for show 11 and 97. This by the way, means
we're coming up on show 12 103 more
hours. It's going to be on the ninth the 19th of December. I
think it's the Thursday the 19th will be our episode.
Wow. That'll be a special show. All right. Let's start with Paul
yesI Paul yesI in Mexico, a Massachusetts three and $53.17
With this I become Sir Paul Knight of the command line. I
request coffee and Bailey's at the roundtable jingles, Oreos
addictive. Monsanto. Monsanto accounting what? I think it's
jingles Oreos, Santo. Yeah. And then he's got accounting and
he's got some money. Okay.
All right, Paul. So I'm gonna put home I don't think I had
that. What did he want Bailey's and coffee and Bailey's coffee
and Bailey's that Jess it just regular coffee and Bailey.
Well, no coffee, it'd be one of them. And Bailey's would be
another. No, no, just put it in the coffee.
I understand. I understand. Okay, coffees and Bailey's.
Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. So there you go.
Happy to oblige. It was it was good. It was good. Chris can
Kendrick 34567 No jingles no karma. Adam and John. In
response to the last show. I'm offering my expert analysis of
what goes on in the brains of new listeners with no agenda
show. Here is my own experience is the first time no agenda
listener to being on and a fan and night at Da
Oh, no. doesn't stop there.
No. Yeah. Oh, no, that's horrible. Well,
oh, I suppose. Let me see if he's got some email in here.
Maybe
I'm looking too. I don't I do not see it. Oh, that sucks.
Oh, me, too. You know, you might be kidding us.
Oh, okay. So she said here it is and then not give us the answer.
Yeah, you really think that poorly?
Then what happened was?
See, okay, well, Chris, if there's something if there's
something else then please email it to me or John or both of us?
Yeah, I'll give him a Karma just in case. I know. He didn't want
any I'm sorry. No, he
said no. No car no email either by that. I don't see an email.
Okay. Damn, Laura and Dale, Virginia $311.23. In the
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jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
That's not the one she meant but I have the actual
I know is that was that Tom Jones?
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everybody a special appearance.
James Varga comes in as an Associate Executive Producer to
earn $33 Dear Janay, your show continues to deliver high
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perfect. And did he want to karma? Yeah, baby making karma
course. Hillary Clinton you've got karma
I love the kids.
I know if anybody out there with little baby actually little boys
sound good too, but little girls in particular. Some very cute
doing this adult phrasings. Yes. No sounds coming from this
is the best. Yeah.
I'm still working on theatre version of douchebag but I
haven't quite he hasn't quite nailed it yet.
Yeah, see your art. In true divorce fashion. You're even
getting the youngest member of the family to chip in.
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Well, there are a little bit about impeachment. I do. Yeah.
Well,
first, I'd like to remind everybody my favourite clip.
Yeah. I want to remind everybody as we go into the impeachment
segment, tomorrow, Monday, the ninth there will be new
hearings. But also tomorrow,
you're gonna do suppose you're going to push them off to
Tuesday? Oh, I thought they were going
to do it tomorrow purposefully because of the Inspector General
report that's coming out, which will include 1000s of sealed
indictments that tick talkers as they're known. They're tick
talkers. People like Hannity, Hannity and degenerate, by the
way. Media Matters has noticed that Joe Digenova and Victoria
toensing have vanished from Fox. They're no longer on the Fox
Business, talking about the 1000s and 1000s of sealed
indictments. They've they've been deep platformed
Well, you know, you can't keep pulling this crap. That just is
going to happen. And by the way, on Wednesday, it is just got to
me it's too specific.
We have clips of him. It's on Wednesday,
on a two on a Monday saying
on Wednesday, right. But it he's been they've really gone now. So
and I did have I was thinking about these, these hearings and
this whole thing. I have a I have a question. I just need to
understand one thing. If I if I were in these hearings, and we
all know they're really boring and people asking all the wrong
questions, the entertainment value is 0.1. It's just nothing
of any is CNN has has the lowest ratings in three years amidst
their constant impeachment coverage. But if I if I were
asking questions, I would say, I would like to know regarding
this phone call that the President made with the
President of Ukraine Zelinsky why is it that the otherwise
reality rebased television show Veep, the Vice President uses
video screens with all the world leaders. Yet our president is
like on a Bakelite phone. And and they got people writing down
what he said. What Why is this? Why don't we have the cool video
screens? Or do we always it just the President with that big
phone with all the buttons on his desk? Seriously, Veep is a
very realistic show to some degree, or was and she's always
calling up world leaders on that, you know, the secret
closed circuit system. It has a name, I don't know what it is.
And it's the encrypted video we have. We have the President of
Bolivia on the on the on the video system, ma'am.
Well, they just use all the offsets from our man Flint.
Okay. All right. And and just on the heels of that, I would say I
do believe I do. But I do believe that the lady who had
that the Baron, the Baron Trump joke. I think she ruined it for
the Democrats. I think she really blew it because that was
the only thing that really made news. And if you if you went on
the street and said hey, you know what's, what did you hear
about the hearings? They'll say Oh, well that you know that
woman you know, she she shouldn't have said it. Remember
Her Name either? Well, yes, she's a terrible person. I do
have a clip of her that somebody picked up I think from 2003
It's 2006. Her name is Pamela Karlan. We both have the same
clip. I shall play it.
The rich, pampered prodigal, sanctimonious, incurious, white,
straight sons of the powerful do pretty well everywhere in the
world, and they always have. But what about us? snarky bisexual
Jewish women who want the freedom to say what we think?
Read what we want? And love?
Yeah, that's your clip.
That's it. You don't have it. He's gonna have the same one.
Well, my clip I think has a little better sound. I'm not
sure. But mine has a little kicker at the end that you don't
have.
Oh, hold on which what do you what do you do it? You name it
here and your clip list?
Is that female judge?
It's no wonder she has a problem with old white men,
because we have more reason than they do to love America. The
rich, pampered prodigal, sanctimonious, incurious, white,
straight sons of the powerful do pretty well everywhere in the
world, and they always have. But what about us? snarky bisexual
Jewish women who want the freedom to say what we think,
read what we want? And love? Who's yelling at me?
Well, you had to be at the end at the beginning to which I
didn't have. Yeah, we you were me, you will meet old white
guys. We don't even love America.
We have more reasonable reason to love America.
Now they have more reason. Okay. And who says you can't have
love, we want to love and say we want to read what you want to
read. You can know what she's talking about. She's being
floated by some nut job group. As a as a possible. But when,
when Hillary Clinton wins in 2020, they'd like to see her as
a Supreme Court. Justice.
How can you imagine?
Yes, for the show, I can only just
put a clip that we just played. And she can't get in. She's
already screwed herself that you can't do stuff. Like you can't
say this sort of thing and expect to get approved. It's not
going to happen.
It was the was the group here. No demand justice. Now, of
course, the climate change people. demand justice. All
right. Yes. So so that she made it interesting, but it was
interesting outside of the actual entertainment portion.
There was on television the whole time. Yeah, so that's
just my favourite clip. Is that so we have these hearings, and
everything's going you know, according to Democrats plans,
and you have, you know, this actually, kind of a, I'd say a
confirmation. We're headed to our confirmation of what Al
Green and Maxine Waters wanted to impeach this president so he
can't be reelected, which pretty much is what they said. But wait
a minute. Now that we're on a roll, it's not that we can't
just bitch about anything we can think about. And so what so l
Greene has a problem.
Whoa, Speaker I rise because I love my country and I have a
problem. But I also rise today. With heartfelt regrets. It hurts
my heart, Mr. Speaker, to see the Judiciary Committee hearing
experts on the topic of impeachment. One of the seminal
issues of this Congress, hearing experts, Mr. Speaker, and not
one person of colour among the experts, what subliminal message
are we sending to the world when we have experts, but not one
person of colour? Are we saying that there are no people of
colour? who are experts on this topic of impeachment? What is
the message that we're sending fantastic speaker? If I am
wrong, I will apologise. But if the committee is wrong, if the
Congress is wrong, what will it do? People of colour for too
long have been ignored by one party and taken for granted by
the other. Too often, this happens, not always but too
often it happens. Mr. Speaker, I refuse to be ignored. And taken
for granted. I came here to represent the people who are
ignored and taken for granted. Not one person of colour among
the constitutional scholars, it seems that there is a desire
among some to have the output of people of colour, without input
from the people of colour.
Before we do anything, I'm gonna give you a clip of the day for
that fantastic clip. That is so fantastic. isn't a great the guy
who is so worried about the racist currently occupying the
White House. That's how he would say it is it still feels that
the getting rid of this horrible scourge on our democracy and a
republic? That that's less important than bitching about
this? Yeah. But he's right. The key there was you said, we've
been taken away. We've been ignored by one party without he
means Republicans and taken advantage of by the other.
Not taken advantage. But taken for granted. I
take it for granted. I'm sorry. Same, that's even more this even
better taken for granted. Yes. The black vote is in play. I
think the black vote is I know at least one guy who was voted
in play.
Yeah, I think a lot of I think there are a number of wishes
being floated around is 30% of the black votes in play that and
so it's a huge No,
no, if if that goes independent or evil that if it doesn't go
towards the Democrats, if it goes if Republicans it's over. I
think even 5% could sway it.
It's gonna take more than that.
But if they if they start to bail on the Democrats, the
Democrats are going to have to do something other than take the
black vote for granted.
They've already well, from the from my vantage point, the
Democrats have already looked at their they've already started
pandering to the new black and that's transgender. They've been
doing that for a while.
That 20 There's not 20% of the population that
I know but who said that was smart there and then
they're also pandering. Mostly Catholic. Yeah. Hispanics, which
is very risky, because Hispanic will turn Republican at the drop
of a hat
very quickly. Although maybe is that maybe what this is all
about?
I pray for the president all the time, Nancy Pelosi
so she's so prayerful prayer for I'm prayer for I'm praying for
this and praying for that. Prayerful
Did you see your Townhall? Nine CNN cut
a piece of it. I didn't record anything from it. Oh, I have an
MBA of one Nancy clip.
I have to this is from the town hall. She did on CNN after the
whole red, white and blue draped in the flags. We're going to
we're going to impeach and after she yelled at the journalist,
although of course, you know, he's from Fox. So she doesn't
consider him to be a journalist. And she did townhall completely
set up of course, with you know, people reading questions the way
you want to do it with Jake Tapper. And the first question
out of the gate after Jake did some back and forth, as you
know, obviously, you know, why do you why do you want to do
this and why do you want to impeach instead of just when at
the ballot box.
Some argue that the 2020 election as a better process for
removing the president from office? What made you decide to
continue with impeachment proceedings despite it being so
close to the election,
but all kids think like that and speak like that? Of course.
That's the
whole year, a couple of more months for the President to be
in office. And I appreciate your question. The here's the thing.
Here's the thing, one of the one of the things things that the
President did was to undermine jeopardise the integrity of our
elections by asking a foreign power to intervene. You know
what the Ask was to announce an investigation into his potential
rival.
This is interesting and important. The the narrative has
shifted ever so slightly, ever so slightly from the phone call,
and and requesting the investigation into the Biden's
although he actually at the favour he asked for what he
specifically said favour according to the transcript,
according to the Mueller report, as reported by the Drudge
Report, is he said, Hey, look into this 2016 thing. It seems
like yeah, the corrupt government of Ukraine was
complicit. There's also some server, you know, do me a
favour. And then later on, it's actually the Ukrainian president
who starts about the corruption. And then Trump talks about
Biden, but this has shifted now to the ask, you know, what the
add the reason she says, you know, what the ask was, is
because she doesn't actually want to explain it. I think she
does want to mess it up, or whatever. You know, what the ask
was, and then she goes into it very briefly, this is new. And
this is what this is the new, the new mistake that Trump made,
is he wanted President Zelensky of Ukraine to go on television
and make a big deal about Joe Biden, that is now listen, I'll
play it again. But that is now what they're going after
our elections by asking a foreign power to intervene. You
know, what the Ask was to announce an investigation into
his potential rival
to announce, you know, what the ask was, so she even cut herself
off at the intervene is very, very weak.
And if he isn't stopped from doing that, he will won't
continue. Can you invited? Invited intervention come on in
the intelligence community says they're completely certain that
the Russians Well, she said, she
says, Sir, I heard it. She said.
She said certain intelligence community says they're
completely certain certain that the Russians disrupted our
election in 2016,
hanging out with the sandy Ocasio Cortes too much that they
are 24/7
doing it all the time. And so when the President is saying,
well, the Ukrainians actually did it, you know, that their
conspiracy theory and the rest, that has to be stopped with what
the president one of his grievances his offences, is that
he was jeopardising the integrity of our election. And
we could not let him continue to do that without holding him
accountable for it.
It's very weak. It's, it's really, really thin. But that's
the new new narrative that I got
to have. They're gonna have to make figure out what they're
doing because they seem to be a little rudderless a little well,
they seem to be rudderless. And it's get the sense that the
Nadler and the Schiff are arguing with her constantly
about how to go about this, but she's the boss, technically. And
so she's going to call the shots and now they're gonna write up
some papers. You know, how long they're gonna let this drag out?
I'm not sure.
Well, Pelosi has her own issues now. With Ukraine, and I have to
say, oh, a n. One American news is they've decided to start
kicking some ass. And I'm not I still really don't. I mean, I
think they're their own their Christian faith based I think is
their deal. Definitely admits of family, family owned. But they
are going after both the issues that we've discussed, and we've
played clips and we've had many discussions about and they
really see eye to eye at least with me, I think with you as
well about all of that was going on with Ukraine and this gravy
train that everybody was on and we have to go back to 2000 What
was it 12? I don't remember now. 14, when when when we basically
co opted the entire government. We determined who was going to
be in the government with a coup with snipers who are killing
people killing the the Ukrainian cops and security forces with
snipers. John McCain was hanging out with ISIS people in Ukraine
and we ran in was over there handing out doughnuts. It was a
Brennan operation. It was a total CIA operation. It was the
worst they've ever done. It's embarrassing how bad it was
particularly when Victoria Newlands phone call was was
taped and distributed and
leaked by the Russians. Yes
where she said if f the EU but this gravy train is starting to
come off the rails and one America news is all over Paul
Pelosi Jr, who was one of Paul Sr. and Nancy sons, who of
course had a cushy little gig with the Ukrainian Oil Company.
The House Intelligence Committee wrapped up its public
impeachment hearings on Capitol Hill. But another story
continues to unfold surrounding the son of House Speaker Nancy
Pelosi. When the Ukraine scandal revealed the Biden family's ties
to the country the less told story surrounding Paul Pelosi
Jr. That's still unravelling on the sidelines following
revelations that he was a board member of the Ukraine oil
company, this coil and executive for NRG lab on America's Rachel
ascent has caught up with journalist Patrick Cowley, who's
been covering the story of the House Speaker Son, take a look.
I wanted to follow up with you because you've been covering
this. Paul Pelosi Jr. story for we now know that two major
Democrats Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden have sons with business
connections in Ukraine and we just went through that public
impeachment hearing centred around that Ukraine phone call
between President Zelensky and President Trump. How do you
think they'll Paul Pelosi Jr. Story plays into this Democrat
led impeachment effort?
I think it's clear that the Democrats and also establishment
Republicans, people of the political class, were using
Ukraine as their own personal piggy bank by putting their
family members on the boards of companies to act as surrogates.
This is total quid pro quo foreign aid, I believe was used
in order to grease the the this foreign country Ukraine in order
to advantage the private sector business deals that were being
done by these Democrats.
What specifically do you think should happen next? When it
comes to Paul Pelosi, Jr. and Nancy Pelosi,
I believe that Republicans in Congress have subpoena power and
they're not using it. I think Republicans are in defence
during this entire impeachment process. When President Trump is
out there saying, Look, I'm exposing the corruption. I'm
exposing the private sector, business deals, the cronyism
that was going on in Ukraine, the corruption, and in fact, by
law, the United States and support was supposed to help
Ukraine clean up their corruption. And so this is all a
diversion in order for the Democrats to ameliorate
themselves of these private sector, very shady business
deals that they were doing.
And I liked that he said it properly. You said Democrats and
Republicans, and that's exactly what they're accusing Trump of.
They have and this is not just Ukraine, but this was the
bungled botched operation where they just said, Oh, we're gonna
give you all kinds of military aid. We're going to give this to
you. We have the power. We're Article One, Nancy, and but you
know, Can you hook my my son up? Am and then John Kerry's kid
Biden's? Kid Pelosi is Kate, are you kidding me? They all had
their hand in the cookie jar. And I'm sure that never Trumpers
just
as get to the olden days. This has the New York Times of the LA
Times award. This has two big boys should be all over this
story. Yes.
Thank you. This is your All the President's Men. This is your
Bernstein and Woodward and Hogwarts. Those guys should be
all over this. You're so right. You're so right. But I have a
little more evidence of the of this new new narrative because
they have this a bit of a problem. The New York Times
started this New York Times wrote really wrote the article,
the current narrative Bible. That said, and this is gets
funny that, you know, so the real ask here, as you just heard
Nancy say, the Ask was for the President of Ukraine, to make a
public announcement that he's going to investigate Hunter
Biden and Joe Biden, and for all of this, all of this horrible
corruption that's been going down. And that's that's what it
was. And the New York Times wrote something extra. They said
that the plan was to have the president of Ukraine announced
this on the CNN show GPS with Fareed Zakaria. Now, we all know
for read, Fareed is the Indian Pakistani of origin.
I don't know if he's Indian or Pakistani. I'll look it up.
Yeah.
And he's a globalist he is he wants to constitution to be
repealed. Yes. Right. He feels the Constitution is stupid. She
get rid of it. It's no good. And he got pulled into this. And all
of a sudden they're telling him like, yeah, he was supposed to
do it on your show. So Fareed Zakaria. who I think is show. I
don't know when it airs in the US but I saw this here on CNN
internasional. And it made me smile.
The phrase quid pro quo is usually translated as something
for something. In the case of President Trump's communications
with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. It appears
that the Cuomo was supposed to have been a declaration of his
commitment to undertake investigations into the 2016
election, as well as Joe and Hunter Biden. The New York Times
has reported that a public announcement was set to be made
on my CNN programme. So I think I owe viewers my best
understanding of what actually happened.
You imagine, oh, now I have to go and make this come true. With
my best understanding of what happened. Okay. New York Times,
here we go.
Ellison Zelinsky, was elected president in April, my team and
I had been interested in having him appear on the show, we began
the process of establishing connections with the new
administration, which was cordial and efficient throughout
on September 13. I met with Zelensky and Kev on the
sidelines of a conference I was participating in,
and let's stop right there. Normally, a normal show would
never even think about it, but he said, I met him while I was
participating at a conference. Oh, this Ukraine, John, where's
the donors from Ukraine? There's nothing but good stuff happening
there. Everybody's in on this. I looked it up. This is the Victor
Pinchuk Foundation, which held six public lectures on the
occasion of the 16th annual yes meeting. That is the Yalta
European strategy. This is the in disguise, pro EU Of course.
And he wanted to he wants to get Ukraine into the European Union.
And indeed, public lecture Western decline, China's rise
and a new world order by Fareed Zakaria, host of Fareed Zakaria
GPS. Friday, September 13. So, yes, he was getting paid. He's
on the train. Who is this Victor Pinchuk? Well, would you believe
it? If I told you he was a big pipeline Baron? That would be
too crazy, wasn't it? More people sucking off the oil teat
of Ukraine? Way to go guys way to go.
He came across a smart, energetic and with a much
sharper feel for politics than you might expect from a
neophyte.
What's a neophyte? Beginner.
He came across a smart, energetic and with a much
sharper feel for politics than you might expect from a neophyte
because I'm sure you should have real politicians understand how
you're supposed to do these things. But this neophyte wasn't
too bad for comedian.
It was a brief conversation, but we did discuss most of the big
issues. He faces Ukraine's relations with Russia, the US
economic reform and corruption. We also talked about whether he
wanted to do the interview in English, which he speaks well or
Ukrainian. I left with the sense that all was well. Solinsky had
perhaps seemed a bit distracted. But I assume this was because of
the many challenges he faced. See, this is
the colour that he's adding. Well, you know, now that you now
that you mentioned it in New York Times, he did seem a bit
distracted. Maybe because he was thinking, oh, boy, this is the
show. I'm going to announce the Biden corruption scandal on Yes,
he did seem distracted.
It's a testament to Zelinsky skill, but he did not let on in
any way the immense pressure he was under.
Maybe he wasn't under any pressure. But okay, let's put it
that way. Amazing how the neophyte was able to fool me,
Fareed Zakaria, the man who does speeches about the New World
Order, it was surprising that he just stopped.
As we now know. For months, the Trump White House had been
mounting an intense campaign to force him to publicly announce
those investigations. He had tried to resist and put them off
in various ways, but ultimately decided he would have to give in
according to the Times,
according to the Times, nothing that he didn't there was no ask.
He didn't ask was it Korea? Can I talk about this, it never came
up. But okay.
His team apparently concluded that since he was planning an
interview with me anyway, that would be the form in which he
would make the announcement, though neither he nor any of his
team ever gave us any inkling of that. However, after my meeting
with him and Kim, my team had begun to discuss the potential
logistics of the interview with his team, time and place. But
the ground had already begun to shift. Just imagine Solinsky his
dilemma. By the time I met with him in Kyiv, he knew the aid had
been released, but the backstory had not yet broken into public
view. So this makes
even less sense. So the aid had already been released. He knew
the aid had been released, but somehow he was under enormous
pressure to still mention this. I mean, I thought he was
supposed to mention it before the aid was released? Isn't that
how it goes? Isn't that what quid pro quo is?
Ukrainian official price?
What? Yeah,
so what it is it had been released. But the backstory had
not yet broken into public view. Ukrainian officials I spoke to
about the release of the aid at the time. We're delighted but a
little surprised and unsure as to what had happened. Zielinski
and his team, were probably still trying to figure out
whether they should still do the interview a few days later, on
September 18, and 19th. The Washington Post broke the story
wide open, the interview was called off. We are of course
still trying to get it.
Well, there's only one thing I can say about that. Bullshit.
They threw that
car. Yeah, Korea is an Indian, Muslim, Indian, you have to say
with such disdain. Well, he's a Muslim Indian, because well, I
didn't mean to say with disdain. And I probably would be inclined
to think he's a Muslim. Atheist, because he went to Yale, and
then Harvard is pretty hard to be religious. And he was busted
for this is that he got his PhD from Harvard in government
studies, which is dubious. He's on the board of the Council on
Foreign Relations. Oh, yeah. And he's no globalist is going on.
But the thing that's interesting to me is that he was busted for
plagiarism. Yes. Several times. I think it tight. Yeah, he's a
plagiarist. And then it's like, I know, people that have been
busted for plagiarism. And there's different ways to get
around it. We discuss it on the show, but six days, I'm gonna
read from the Wiki Page Six days later, after review of his
research notes and years of prior commentary, time, and CNN
reinstated Zaccaria. Describe the time described the incident
as an isolate is not intentional. And CNN found
nothing that what it says to me is somebody said, Hey, you just
guys working there for a reason to put them back in there. We
don't care what you think,
well, they, the New York Times didn't give him a heads up. He
was caught flat footed on this. It was actually longer. I cut
out some relevant bits, but he just was talking around the sub
but he basically he's like He has no, he can't really back up
the claim. Didn't look nervous. The guy was funny didn't come
up, that he didn't do it to cancel the interview. Yet this
is this is the big ask that Nancy Pelosi apparently is
basing the impeachment, the Articles of Impeachment on.
Whether they're going to have I don't know how they're going to
pull this off here. The real problem that Democrats have
is that they are corrupt and stealing money. Besides the
fact that there are corrupt operations, stealing money,
taxpayer money went out when you started seeing it with this real
sources or taxpayer money where they get rich and in office. But
in so far as the impeachment, the technicalities of the
impeachment are concerned, if they actually go through with
it, or they voted in, they may not vote it in I mean, it's
possible some Democrats have a clue. They will have pushed this
over to the Senate. Right, during the period where many of
the senators that would be involved in the trial, have to
be on the road promoting themselves for President nominee
for the Democrat party. Yeah, the
timing could not be worse.
The timing is bad for them. It's good for Hillary.
Yes, it's very good for Hillary. It's just a matter of waiting.
It's all happening. It's all happening.
wait forever.
Anyway, as a as a side. One, what's the word I'm looking for?
something out. So not even aside, no, but something that
because of all of this, this coup d'etat in 24, it was 2014.
Actually, the role that Joe Biden played, you know, just the
whole the whole coup that took place, forget about the
corruption just the coup that took place, thanks to
corruption, have turned Russia eastwards in particular with
their pipelines. And just see six days ago, Vladimir Putin
participated in the official opening of the power of Siberia
natural gas pipeline to Asia, servicing China. This is this is
one of the one of the most intricate pipeline projects that
has ever been undertaken and completed. It goes through
Russia's Eastern Eastern Siberia, north of Mongolia to
the border with China 2200 kilometres across Russia's East
territories. It can, it can withstand temperatures to 60 to
minus 62 degrees centigrade. It can withstand earthquakes. And
it connects up to I mean, it connects us to underwater
pipelines under the Umpqua River. And it connects to the
Chinese gas pipeline going into Shanghai, I mean, this and it
just opened, gas is flowing. And you know, they're going to start
with a 38 billion cubic metres a year, but they believe that they
can crank that up to double that amount by 2025. So good work,
everybody.
Good work?
Yeah, well, you blame the Democrats on this one, the cars
they've been trying to get, you know,
and I'll say Not, not not just not just Democrats, it's it's
Congress. It's the whole kit and caboodle. If, if the good guys
weren't involved in this one, they're involved in something
else. That's the real message. So it's all shit.
The thing that in the 70s happened, which when Nixon open
China, the idea was to get China, and Russia does split. So
there was there weren't allies, right? Real Way, right? So we're
supposed to be doing all this business with China. And now
they're our buddies. And we let that go a little too far. And
it's always been the idea that you don't want China and Russia
to be at Big Time allies in case something, you know, some
kinetic war breaks out, and those two guys are together,
it's like, pretty much impossible to to beat.
Well, now they are, they are literally connected. And it
looks like about 10% of China's natural gas requirements will be
are now being provided by Russia. I'm sure we didn't have
did was that on Democracy Now cover that or the news hour? Or
Did anyone bother to look at the implications of that?
Let me think, and don't
hurt your brain? No, of course not.
Well, it's a bad situation. Yeah. And I would still blame
Pelosi.
Guy thing else on on the impeachment stuff.
I don't really have a lot I have me take a look at my list. Oh,
you just hit your bell. Well, while while while you're
looking, I do have someone sent me this. Whenever Rudy Giuliani
is on TV, I tend to switch. And I've been, we've been programmed
like, ah, there's that bumbling fool. But of course, if you
think about it, in terms of how the President thinks of him, has
one of the greatest crime fighters of our time, which has
some validity, when you hear him rambling, but to kind of, you
know, after we've gone through a year at least have a little more
detail about what happened in Ukraine. And then, you know, you
hear what Giuliani was actually discussing with people. It's
short, but it makes sense.
I investigated all of this, starting in November of 2018.
And I finished it by March 28 2019. Why is that
significance? The Ukrainians brought me substantial evidence
of Ukrainian collusion with Hillary Clinton, the DNC, George
Soros, George Soros, his company, they put it in my lab.
They came and gave me testimony. This is under oath. It's signed
under penalties of perjury by Viktor Shokin. He's more than
willing to come to America and testify before Congress and
point the finger at Joe Biden and his son and basically
support what the President
said. It's no wonder that Saturday Night Live makes
consistent fun of this guy. He's dangerous to a lot of people.
Yeah, yeah. He's he's got that he's got the he's got like a
hanging judge mentality within a district attorney's body or
what's left of one and he does not and he is likes to go after
people. That's why he's always my ruthless according to people
who have been involved with any of his is
targeting Yes. Okay. Oh, we'll see what happens.
I think they're part they're they're making a mistake by
attacking him.
Well, this has been non stop trying to get like
the Pelosi clip or the weird accusations clip where she's
just mumbling and bumbling. I don't know what the hell she's
saying half the time, which is part of the press conference
only 32 second clip,
democracy is what is at stake. The president leaves us no
choice but to act because he is trying to corrupt once again,
the election for his own benefit. The President has
engaged in abuse of power, undermining our national
security and jeopardising the integrity of our elections. His
actions are in defiance. Because of the vision of our founders,
and the oath of office that he takes to preserve, protect, and
defend the Constitution of the United States.
He says he slips in this stuff. These guys do this all the time.
They slip in little, little gems. And what she slipped in on
that one was he's, once again, trying to corrupt the election.
Once again, if he did already once, but he didn't, it was the
molar report, pretty much said he didn't. But they did keep
hanging their hat on the Russian Mullah report nonsense. And they
just keep doing it. They never let up.
Well, they have to because somewhere it has to come back to
the Ukraine, Ukraine's involvement with CrowdStrike.
And the server, which was the real ask that Trump had didn't
do us a favour was about that. So they have to continuously say
that, and that was just before I left for the lowlands. There was
that was the talking point was really, really Ukraine. That's
Russian disinformation, man, don't you know that
disinformation that you've been debunked? It's a conspiracy
theory. It's Russian disinformation. So they have to
keep that going. And the only proof they have is by saying the
entire intelligence community agrees. Now, it was really only
one. It was really only the Director of National
Intelligence who agreed the other 16 agencies actually said,
Well, we didn't really sign off on it like that, but okay. So
they have to keep it going. But I mean, the timing of it, is
flabbergasting to me. I mean, it also it also gives Trump so much
time, the whole year he could he could burn them all. And then go
into the election. died well, stupid. I just don't and it can
only be panic moves. It's not There's no rhyme or reason to
how they're going about this.
No, no, they shouldn't be Yeah, panic, maybe what's going on?
has already done.
Podcasts are the best thing in the universe. Of course. I can
say that. That's one of the inventors. Because you get
people to say stuff on podcast that's just fit. It's just
fantastic. You'd never hear it on mainstream. Our friend the
mooch Anthony Scaramucci, he has a podcast. Did you know he does
his own podcast? I heard about this. About the podcast.
Yeah, it's called Nick not heard the pies called Mooch and the
missus does it with his wife, which is very funny. And he
brings in a guest Dylan Howard. He is Australian entertainment
journalist who was the Vice President and Chief Content
Officer at American media. He oversees Us Weekly. Okay. Star
in touch, life lifestyle closer national examiner Radar Online
National Enquirer and you I mean, the globe. He is the he is
the rat Meister of all meisters. And they're talking about
Epstein, Epstein murderers who's
I've got to think murder. Yeah, yeah. And I do believe that he
was acting as a foreign agent of a foreign government. And I
believe people are setting people up. I've actually seen
photos inside his New York penthouse. There is one room
that is lined with industrial sized Xerox machines. Next to it
is a room that has a bunch of cameras, screens. So every room
was being taped. Everything every person was being watched
and listened to. I believe he was acting as an agent of a
foreign government. Well, in a classic honey traps, those tapes
come out from somewhere else and then right, so the FBI
theoretically should have them. So should so to should local
authorities in Palm Beach County where he had a house. In
Florida, there is a law called the Sunshine Law, which means
that you can get access to every police record. I sought those
types. Now according to the local authorities, they don't
exist. And as part of the book that's coming out in December,
called Epstein Dead Men Tell No Tales. We speak to a former Palm
Beach police officer who now has asylum in Russia, who says that
he's in possession of all of the Jeffrey Epstein tapes that were
recorded in New York or just the Palm Beach just Palm Beach.
There's got to be really salacious tapes. You would
imagine if that if he What if what he says is true. And that
these tapes exist and that they are in encrypted and they're
there in Russia. This guy fears for his life that's why he's got
get being given asylum. It's Vladimir Putin ASOs apes. The
exactly right so that could be, you know, could be some people
on those tapes and we we see pictures of exactly wrong with
him. There is one thing I can assure you is I can I can say
for certainty that mi five is concerned that Prince Andrew is
caught on tapes and that those tapes are in the hands of the
Russians
kompromat
That would explain the bum's rush. Hey, Prince Andrew has
been given an after the tried to get himself out of a pickle by
being on a couple of these interview shows and then they
have now the royal families just shipped into Siberia. Supposedly
we should not hear from him again ever.
Well I'm trying to see how I can word this I got a note from one
of our producers. And this producers travels around the
world and this producer was at a like a mist contest of a
different country so not Miss America, maybe one that would
lead up to a universe and Prince Andrew
was there
and he immediately tried to get rid of his security detail and
was saying to the girls hey you know you can come and stay at
Buckingham Palace with me try to hook up with them ain't no
success because of course get a Maxwell wasn't around to help
them out. But they get the Randy Andy thing. I mean he's asleep
the guy's a total douche bucket. And so yeah, I think I think
that's a you make a good point. It's like oh, we got to get into
we got a really got to clean up some tracks here. I just love
that the mooch does that on his podcast. I mean, it could be
total fake news. I don't know. I'd like it though. No, I like
material and
tweak has been going around some woman who talked about just
Layne Maxwell giving Clooney a blow job. I
was going to bring this up Tiffany FitzHenry who does
decent reporting? She would she did a random well, not random
but she did a search for George Clooney on WikiLeaks came up
with what what she's saying here. She came up with
interesting results what she thought was most interesting and
wrote about and I'll put the article in the show notes 276
global intelligence files that mentioned George Clooney by name
in 1507. Sony emails the document and mentioned George
Clooney that's expected of course, but there's 98 DNC
emails 26 Podesta emails but this global intelligence which
is Stratfor, which is the spooks for hire outfit in Austin we got
a lot of them 276 global intelligence files all and I've
linked to in the show notes it is quite fun to see. And when
the one that she's getting all the attention for is the one
fine so it's it's not just a tweet it's it's from the
intelligence files. I'll read it to you Elaine joke that maybe I
should keep it open. I might find a suitable husband before I
get any older. Always the instigator of a good joke but
unable unable to take one herself. She didn't like it when
poked back that it was her that it was more in her recent tastes
of men's and she loves to brag about her Ronda vet rendezvoused
with various lovers. Once she came back giddy as a Squirrel
Girl with an explosion of news with all the build up and
excitement. You think she was the next crown princess she was
so excited but she had actually given George Clooney a blow job
in the bathroom at some random event. She never let that one
down. So you take Clooney with a satellite you take Clooney with
all the things he's doing and we've been saying it on this
show for years George
Clooney is a spy and there's a sentence that needs a bit of
qualification what
wow I've never even heard the original for that
thought I was playing the jingle wow we lose the jingle I don't
know.
What do you mean we
dammit this is what I meant.
Julio Jones
is a spy.
Big build up big fail. Way to go curry. Dammit.
So yeah, Tiffany FitzHenry she's pretty interesting.
Yeah, well this is of course is another story is gonna go into
the dumper because getting doesn't doesn't have enough to
do with Trump.
Exactly more Trump. I'm gonna show my
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Okay, so I have an announcement to make about a change to the
podcast going forward. As most of you know, the show has relied
on audience support for several years, ever since I realised I
was allergic to running ads. But it's finally become clear to me
that the support model is broken. Probably in principle,
the ad model is also broken, but for very different reasons.
First, let me say that those of you who've been supporting the
podcast are total heroes, you are the reason why I've been
able to grow it into the platform it's become. So I want
to thank you for that. I consider myself extraordinarily
lucky to have you. And I doubt there's a podcaster out there
for whom the support model has worked. John,
has it been working for you? Well, it works for us. It works
for Jen Briony?
Yeah. Works for works for the Great America guys. And the
great American guys. It works for a number of podcasts. If you
if you do it correctly,
yes, better. But it still isn't working the way that I'd hoped.
The percentage of people who support the show has never
climbed beyond the single digits. And I now have several
years of data on this.
This is fantastic. To never climb out of the single digit
dude, you should be lucky if it's 2%.
If it's 2%, you're lucky because this guy, what does he think?
What does he have any experience in the field? Obviously,
he says he's several years in the field, but he's going he's
just going by a zone he doesn't do any research. This is know
that 2% is a huge number. Yeah. If you can get through, I guess
if your audience is only 1000 people is you know, 2% is what
20 People are supporting the show that's still per 1000
People get 20 people, small churches that have a
congregation size of perhaps 1000 to 2000 people do very well
for themselves
well, but they're also guilted right there in front of
everybody to put money into the bad news. If we could come
to your house, we would, though has never climbed beyond the
single digits. And I now have several years of data on this,
there seems to be some law of behavioural economics at work
here.
I mean, seriously, doo doo five seconds of googling. So those
of you who have supported the show are true outliers. And
that's awesome. But the psychological reality is that
we've all grown used to an internet that is almost entirely
subsidised by ads. And the negative effects of the ad model
are now Legion. It has undermined our politics, it has
nearly destroyed journalism, it has given us clickbait and
insane privacy violations and cancelled culture, it is true to
say that almost everything that is wrong with our digital lives,
and much that's now wrong with our society can be traced to
this business model. Now, I
agree with him there. That's totally all on board with that.
And of course, I've talked about this in several episodes of the
podcast, and the problem isn't going away anytime soon. And one
insidious consequence of the ad model, because especially
relevant here is that it has anchored everyone to the
expectation that most digital content should be free, or
nearly free.
See, I think I think this is where he's just wrong. You know,
it's this is not everybody thinks the way you do. It's not
true. There's Legion, people out there
forever. And every content creator who tries to build a
business without ads feels this force of gravity.
John, do you feel the gravity? Do you feel that bringing you
down?
Please pray for sitting in the squeaky chair and not because of
the anything else
pulling everything down to zero? And I can now say from
experience, that even real success down this path
terminates in a broken business model? No, it's not broken. So
I'm changing the model. Here we go.
Okay, if you if you start with a broken sit with a broken idea,
and you do it half assed, exactly treon. What was he
doing? I don't know. But he's, he has he has explained the
details of how much he actually brought in now, of course,
no, no, he didn't do it, right. But he has a solution, which is
the shittiest ever
path terminates in a broken business model. So I'm changing
the model, and turning the Making Sense podcast into a
subscription service. For nonsubscribers, beginning with
this episode, all episodes of the podcast will be half
episodes. So nonsubscribers will get the first part of the
conversation, but they won't get the second. And the first part
won't be edited in a way that makes it seem sufficient. It
won't be sufficient. The point is, is that if you really care
about listening to this podcast, you'll need to subscribe through
my website. No, I
gave him 18 months before he's running ads again.
Now, a couple of things about that idea. First of all, it
introduces information that only some people will receive, but
it's but always gets referred to.
Yes, this is probably problematic, very problematic,
you know, so you're talking about something and then and the
adults what causes a problem, especially with the two of us,
where do we talk about it in the second half? Is that a second
half information?
I can't even remember what day the week it is let yet proven
earlier.
Now that model would work. And we've never done it, but it
would work on the DH unplugged show. For the stock
picks. Yeah, that's it's a different kind of show.
Yeah, and you could do stock picks that you had to pay to
listen to. And that would make sense. And you know, we just
never implemented that idea. But it would make sense there but
doesn't make sense in an information, pure information
show. Like this or any other. Anybody show including,
especially his and it becomes exclusive, which really annoys
you know what the mistake is? So let's say he, I'll be really
I'll be very generous. Let's say he has 3%. He said the single
digit so I don't know, I'll just say doesn't matter. Five 5% Are
your producers. So now you're going to cut off everybody else.
So 95% of the people who are listening could have been
potential supporters can get hit people in the mouth can give you
ideas can give you feedback. He is just saying, Eff you. You
don't count. Although, and I didn't clip this. He said, If
you can afford it, send me an email give you a year for free.
Like he's a pharmaceutical company or something.
Yeah, that's very patronising insulting.
Yeah.
Well, good luck with that. I know we could talk about this
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some interesting topics. Like for example, well, I
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some we have business. We do have some business to do that.
So anyway, my point was Thank you very much for Steve Vora out
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like you and I jumped and for furries from all over the states
from North Carolina to California. Well, I knew what I
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why they were there from North Carolina. They weren't there for
the meetup. There's meetups closer. They were furry so we
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Yes, we certainly do. And that's great. And their furry outfits
are beautiful. Furry outfits serve. Yeah, I mean, this is
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yeah,
I had suggested they had sex in these outfits to millennials at
the dinner table. Yeah. And they all everybody knows about the
furries and they all got a guest, saying they would never,
they would never risk any bodily fluids
that I can believe actually. There's never been high up high
end stuff very high and
probably a great convention to go to especially if they don't
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I didn't hear that head, doggy. Oh, really? Oh, well, that
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They had to take those off. Wow. That's
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Now, to jump to something a little weirder,
weirder, weirder than meet ups with furries. Okay, I'm all
ears.
You remember the first what was the first the first school
shooting that kind of triggered a fan of school shootings that
you remember? Well,
I had for me I guess Columbine would be the most obvious Yeah,
yeah. Columbine. Well, Columbine
was predated. And it's to it to an event it got no credit even
though it was
horrible no credit as the best ever the first ever premier no
credit as the progenitor of all the rest of these shootings. Oh,
okay. It was the original. Well, wait a minute, we'll shoot it
what
didn't What didn't we have done Blaine of which was in the in
England, the UK. The were the Boomtown Rats made the song I
don't like Mondays. Wasn't that the one of the OG?
Well, we're talking about North America. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay.
And it was in 1989. It was in Canada. Oh, that delay called
Polytechnique, which is a school holiday. It was technically of
femicide.
I'm sorry, XML killing girls women. Yeah, only I've never
heard of this term, but I could figure it out if femicide
femicide Yeah.
Now this play this because this more Most Americans don't know
about this. And even the Canadians can't seem to to this
day, come to grips with it even though we're what at the 30 year
anniversary. Yeah, if you want to call it that of this event,
which took place in 1989, and not nine. Columbine was 1999. It
was 10 years later. So let's play these clips.
This is, I'm told the worst shooting disaster in Canadian
history third worst in North American history.
December 6 1989, the day before midterm exams at Ecole
Polytechnique in Montreal, just before 5pm Mac Lubin walked into
the engineering school with a semi automatic rifle. Within 20
minutes, he murdered 14 women, when it's been asked to sit in
coach marketing. That's Natalie Pavao, one of the survivors of
the Polytechnic Montreal massacre.
He came in the class shot in the wall just behind me. He yell at
the guy that they have to leave the classroom. Nine women
altogether in the corner of the room. He told us that we were
there because we were feminists. And I answered him back that we
were not feminist. And if he wants to study at Polytechnique,
he can come with us. And then he shut tak, tak, tak, tak, tak,
tak, tak pretty loud, pretty off. It's awful. And you see, I
saw the eyes of a colleague tried. And then you know that
you will die, you will then you're the next one. And it
takes a second. And then you're on the floor and it's finished.
Nine people were shot in that classroom, six died. All women.
Over the next 15 minutes, eight more people were killed all of
them, women. What followed the shooting was utter chaos.
Emergency responders didn't really know what to do, as this
was one of the first active shooters in Quebec, and one of
the first school shootings in North America.
You know, I love when you do something like this at the end
of the show, it really makes me want to come back to this
programme to this incredibly depressing show. The music was
spot on too. So what was this guy? What was the deal with this
guy?
The guy hated Well, he was a mistake. You can't see his
misogynist because he ended up dead but you don't know because
he never got to grill him. But he goes into classes. Okay, all
you guys call him in? Wow, he separated them chi and made them
leave and then started gunning down the women.
I know nothing about this is great. I mean, it's not great.
But it's no
it's not great. But it's something we should know about
the Canadians. They didn't know how to deal with it. The cops
took a half an hour to get there. There was
no Oh, you mean you mean they weren't doing a drill nearby for
this exact scenario?
Probably not. They have a lot to learn. But the whole thing was
it's it and they didn't they wouldn't cut the writers and the
reporters and they talked about one in the next clip on the
national refused to even bring up the sex. The sexual aspect to
it, that it was a femicide, the guy was killing women only. And
he was making sure the guys row safe.
Display part two, there were a number of miscommunications and
delays for first responders to actually get on the scene.
Police only entered the building when they got word the suspect
had taken his own life. Nearly 25 minutes after the first 911
Call. The coroner's report called The disaster plan poorly
defined and the operation as a whole suffered as a result. The
media was also unsure how to handle the situation
when they came out and said that there were a dozen students that
the reporters just all got real quiet. You don't very often see
reporters get quiet but nobody said much after that.
The coverage following the massacre often excluded the word
feminist unless to quote the killer. It was portrayed as an
individual situation, a lone gunman spun out of control.
We were We were sent out to try to find out why the murderer
would have done this. What must have happened in his childhood
or his background that made him commit an act of violence, you
know, do what you're told, but at the same time, there was no
reflection on would we cover the Violence Against Women angle,
because that seemed beside the point. I was watching the
national and the late Barbara from was doing a special on this
and you could see on a national scale that she too was trying to
not make it about violence against women.
But isn't the crime the brutality against this
particular group? This time it could have been another group
would we be having vigils for every group if it was 14 men
would we be having vigils isn't violence the monstrosity here?
Mack lapins motive not have been more clear, he said it in the
classroom as well as in his suicide note, but it would still
take decades to call it what it was Canada's first mass
femicide,
globally as a society, imagining that one of our boy can kill 14
of our girls, is so hard to conceive, is so hard to accept.
It's to see a big flaw in our society. So I don't I don't
agree. But I understand why. People in charge wanted to
diminish the division between men and women.
We have some cando trolls in the troll room, and they're pointing
to a lot of things. Is there a gun control thing that just came
out about this? And this is why it's in the news again, or is
this just a throwback?
Because it was on December 6, okay, two days ago, 30 years
ago. And now there's no in fact that gun control was in play in
Canada during this little episode. And that's one of the
things that it makes it like you don't hear about it, because we
got all these gun control laws here in Canada. And meanwhile,
this happens.
So what I'm reading is that Trudeau unveils new gun control
platform, while measures from 2015 are still not in force. So
is that how we celebrated on December 6, with a new gun
control
it this just came that this was an obscure, did not really show
up as a as a major anything by I don't remember Trudeau
mentioning and maybe he did. But it's a it is a good thing you
could leverage. You know, if you gotta if you're working on gun
control. I'm surprised it hasn't been leveraged by the Americans.
Yeah, this seems to be the OG the OG of incident. Yeah. In in
the Americas. Wow. North America. Well, that's very
depressing. Thanks, John. That's great. You're welcome. I
tried to keep the show. Lively. I am. I do have some I have I
have the I have the antidote. Oh, god. Okay. Nobody, Biden
rambling.
Like we haven't seen enough of that all we
1.2 billion. So you go ahead and you stack spaghetti sauce at a
store. In a supermarket? You control the guy or the woman who
runs the run rings out the carts on on a forklift? What happens,
ladies and gentlemen, the next President of the United States
of America. It's actually it's not much worse than Trump. Just
Trump has is no it's funnier. funnier.
Oh my goodness. I think it's funnier than Trump. I agree. Now
Biden was an Iowa and is where he said that little speech. But
I do have the the thing we I owe a farmer versus Biden. Now do we
really need to do this? Is there anything new in this? Well,
you've seen it then. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's everywhere. He's
calling the guy Hey, sit down fats. And it's not true and shut
up. And it's, and it's good with this microphone. Is my sound is
absolutely no pay for my Sunday. Now.
You they were playing that on Democracy Now. So I do have the
third clip from that little ditty, which I call the bad
segue. Oh, okay. This is that she wants you to listen to this
as she's going from the Biden story that you're just
ridiculed. Where Biden in this guy get into a beef. She goes
from that and cuts into another story. Normally, she does a two,
one but a one second, about a three beat pause between her
stories. But once in a while, she just raised from one story
to the other making it sound like the same story. And this is
an example
and that was former Vice President Joe Biden lashing out
at the town hall in Iowa Thursday. The Pentagon's
considering sending 1000s more troops to the Middle East to
counter. The Wall Street Journal reports 14,000 US troops could
be
stopped. I got to hear that again. That was great.
The Pentagon's considering sending 1000s Go back and that
was former Vice President Joe Biden lashing out at the town
hall in Iowa Thursday. The Pentagon's considering sending
1000s more troops to Iowa in the Middle East account.
was good. That was good. I liked it.
I didn't know that she uses the term which I thought was
reserved for Trump. But I She is the Democracy Now show is on
board with Elizabeth Warren I think Oh, wow. So she uses the
term reserve for Trump where Biden now lashes
lashes out? Yeah. Well, it's AMI who knows we don't have an end
of show ISO. I just realised this is a problem.
Well, you got classics and things stopped a hammering
always works. Let's listen to it says where you want me to
lighten it up. I got my last clip. Okay, thanks, buddy. The
second part is optional. So Katie Hopkins is the kind of the
right wing commentator used to be on LBC and she's, she's
floating around. She's a big Trump, she's
on Fox last year on Fox sometimes she comes
on Fox once in a while she does. She lambaste people she's
actually a good radio personality because she's just
over the top nuts. Okay, so she's given a speech to some
conservative group. And she, and I was like watching her do this.
She has, she has the thing written now she's writing this
down. But so she apparently hired some joke writers. Oh,
god. Okay. I think you know, she does a credible job. And I think
anyone who does public speaking, should find some joke writers
and maybe do your material like this. My
name is Katie Hopkins, I am a straight white, Christian,
conservative, married mother of three small children under 15.
And I'm proud to be all of those things. People who know me know
that most of my Muslim friends have 15 children under the age
of three.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I don't have Muslim friends. I've
had two husbands so far. I like to call lovely mark, my current
husband to keep him on his toes.
I guess I'm a bit like Ilhan Omar. Except I've never married
my brother. I did try proposing to Donald Jr. earlier as well. I
think I could be so much better for him than Kimberly. After
all, I've never dated a Democrat unlike some.
She goes on Well, I didn't get that one. And Kimberly Guilfoyle
was married to me for Gavin Newsom.
Oh, okay. Of course. Well, these are pretty good. She delivers.
It's not bad. It's not bad. But then she goes on your race,
so it's good. Hey,
she's a radio person.
She's doing almost as bad as a podcaster.
Yeah, she's probably a podcaster now. But you know, it's
well actually, actually, I think, didn't she? Didn't she
lose some lawsuit? I was reading about this Yeah. Oh, that could
be he was he was she a slander lost interest slander lawsuit
for 500 million pounds and she had to sell her house. Oh, well,
so the podcast joke is not that funny.
Funny at all. She does do a nice slam here on somebody else that
I kind of like wow, this is interesting. I guess there's a
contingent of people in the UK that hate a certain somebody.
Like
tomorrow I have my first marriage ladies and gentleman is
do not marry a man that looks like match slap. Too much hair.
That much hair is not naturally looks like something that came
out of the forest. And I'm glad to see that so many ladies here
have gone for a much more aerodynamic husband
in the head department. Not gesturing at you sir. But I'm
definitely gesturing at you.
It's good to laugh, isn't it? I mean, really? I've come to
realise that we lived in such utterly mad times that sometimes
our best defence is truly just laughter and it's one of the
ways I think the Republicans are going to win this war is through
our sense of humour. Because Democrats are not blessed in
this department.
Look at Meghan Markel. Thank you very much for that gift America
clearly, you really export really the best. Take half of
Mexico and what do we get? Megan Markel?
Yeah, there's not a lot of love for Megan mark. In in the UK,
either. Everyone's still really confused about or whatever.
Well, thanks. That was okay.
That was the best I can do. Oh, no. It was 1989 femicide. Yeah,
that
was great. Thanks. All right. I'll be sure to check those
listening stats see who chopped out after that. And if they did,
they're fools because we have a fantastic end of show mix lineup
with Jesse Coyne Nelson talked about earlier. lowlands Jasper
Secret Agent Paul returns with a professional new song that'll be
up first. We have Tom Starkweather. And of course as
promised the nothing like a dame song. So we're loaded for bear.
And I will be flying back tomorrow. So be back for the
Thursday show looking forward to that as we get closer to Episode
1200. Remember us at the vortec.org/na And coming up next
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