Shut that baby up. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah November 14 2019
This is your award winning get my nation media assassination
episode 1190 This is no agenda. crossing the t's and dropping
the fry I'm broadcasting live from opportunity's own 33 Here
at the frontier of Austin, Texas capital drone Star State in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm waiting for it to
become beachfront property. And Jhansi Devorah
Raglan Buzzkill.
And you shouldn't be reading your email before the show. You
saw that note? And of course I did. Of course, as always
someone who will come in and tell you that you're wrong,
you're wrong. You're actually wrong. And then I realised
suddenly this morning, I realised you're the guy from the
cartoon. Okay, yeah, you're the guy from that cartoon announcing
the strippers. What guy you haven't seen the latest from?
Yo, yo, I
had not seen Oh my goodness. The whole club 33 ravens sequences
there
is not the one where they burned the place down. No, no, no, no,
it's when I add so when I'd like to see
well. Yeah. There's a lot more to that one, but you're really
good. You're the star of the show.
Good. Yeah.
And we have over 1000 subscribers now on the YouTubes
apparently that's good.
She She has 1000 subscribers. Oh,
that's true. Yeah, but apparently that's really good.
Apparently that's when the algos kick in and then you get viral
one yeah and then you get virality and you're all over
then
then you have to go to l go then you have to go to to 100,000
subscribers to get you got no I think it was and then and then a
big meal
and then you get the platform that's how it goes. Well that
could be but by then we should be on Netflix and as a general
rule now every single time I I tweet out or retweet one of
those videos have no agenda animated studios I always do
hashtag Netflix
madness is got money too and so does apparently now we have a
new I don't know what to call him but he took over the CEO of
HBO and moved him over to Apple. Yeah.
Is he now is he gonna run the the Apple TV stuff?
I guess so. You know, there's they have a bunch of shows. They
advertise them on television. They have a whole slew of shows
this one with Jennifer Aniston. It was one of the apple
presentations. They're going to write original programming that
nobody gets to watch.
I actually would almost get Apple TV just to watch a series
with Jennifer Aniston. I like her.
Yeah, you've said this before in the show. She lives in Honestly,
you're in denial about the fact that she's a next door
neighbour.
She lives in Austin. Yeah. refuses to see me. Uh huh. Yeah,
exactly. Yes, well, that would be good. And we could totally
snow those guys with it. But don't use these words. I'm
sorry. Yeah, like like they listen like Eddie Q As long as
there's that. But I have Eddie's number I'll call Eddie. I got
some hot hot sheet for you, man. We got we got the algos are
triggered on the YouTubes. You know,
they've got $100 billion to throw away, they might as well
and they're putting it in. And there's two or three shows
they're doing about? I don't know how many shows maybe five?
There's a bunch of shows there and several nobody's get to see
any of them.
Yeah, I think it's more than five and then a couple movies.
Aren't they doing some feature length stuff as well?
I didn't hear that. But why not?
Yeah. Well, we'll see. We got to come up with a budget. That's
the problem. We gotta we gotta justify a budget because really,
you know, the budget is almost zero. It's the three of us with
Jen making them
were the writers for all practical purposes.
Yes. And showrunners and producers. Yeah, let's see the
writers it's not a very good position on any show.
Get fired and almost all TV shows or writer all writers.
Anyway, so where else to go? Yeah, I was going over to Troy.
I had a funny line the other day. I'm going over to I'm over
at Whole Foods and I'm looking across the the next at the next
person over the next checker. Yeah. And I said and I actually
thought this was true. I said that Salman
Rushdie Rushdie who was what who was checking or packing the
bags, but I've
noticed that was not it was just a coat just leaving. Okay. Yeah,
she looks it looks just like him. I said, yeah. But then
again, everybody in Berkeley looks like Salman Rushdie. Got a
big laugh. And then I said and the Men look even worse.
And you got run out of town. You sexist misogynist, douche.
Or not? No, that's
great. Don't care. And you're actually pretty lackadaisical
about anything.
So they got some humour still left in Berkeley. That's good to
know. She
could laugh. She laughed and laughed and laughed, and one of
her piercings fell out of her mouth.
Now, that's the punch line. So the jetlag is still kind of with
me taking a little little bit longer and gone that long. Yeah.
But usually I can. I think that the trip home was what really
screwed me up. Just because it took much longer than it should
have. So I didn't really get into the right rhythm. So um,
um, you know, of course, yesterday, you know, all the
buildup Oh, boy, this is gonna be it. The big show is coming to
TV. Worse. Yeah, we're going all the way. This is it. This is the
impeachment hearing. And it was it was so hard for me to stay
awake. Certainly the first, you know, hour, two hours. And I'm
kind of dozing off, you know, because of the jetlag, but I
keep getting awakened by tweets. You can only guess what the
tweets were from yesterday. What? Here we go. I'm gonna read
them to you. Oh, great. Read the transcript that dams voted.
Well, I just lost it now. Where was it? That was read the
transcript that Dems voted to continue their impeachment Sham.
I need your input complete the impeachment poll now. all
uppercase. Are all new 2020 calendars have arrived. my
amazing wife Melania. Handpicked each photo get one before they
gone.
Yes, they show they put it back into high gear.
Oh yeah. Two times match those listeners. elicitation. Oh,
yeah. This is a good one. 2x Match missing? Adam who is
missing? I don't know.
The gods. was a person do this matching missing.
President Trump wants a list of all donors who step up during
this impeachment hoax. Hurry. Donate in the next hour.
President Trump colon Adam, I noticed you didn't step up
during the fake impeachment hearings. 3x Match unlocked just
for you for one hour Donate now. 3x match just for me. It's
unlocked. As much as for you just for me. So I'm reading this
to the keeper last night. She says did you donate? I said no.
This is the most insulting thing in the world. Donate to anyone
with this message. This is so horrible. But man that they are
pushing 3x Match
doing this is all campaign fundraising for the for the
Republicans. This is all
Jared Kushner that's one of the reasons
behind the fundraising. Now we talked
about this this is when red that's the guys that does all
this now. That's Kushner
dynamite. Did you know that most we're gonna go? Oh, yeah, he's
gonna put money in net 3x 3x match.
3x match. Oh, no. Now before
I give $1 I've given $3 That's great.
So before we get into the, by
the way before we go away from that, okay, the Democrats use
this too. And I've also seen it elsewhere. And I've seen it on
some public radio and I said, Well, there we have an unknown
donors going to match everything. And unless we don't
get to, if we get to 10,000 They'll double it. But it's
like, they never say there's a scam going on.
It must be I mean, who's who's? And it says 3x match. I mean,
maybe some guy whose name is 3x is gonna hand you a match. I
don't know what this is. I find it highly sketchy. It should be
investigated.
And that you think it should be I think there's some things
Yeah, and they use Bitly sounds illegal to me. They
use bitly links, which I don't like either. So, of course, I
did watch this thing, sadly. But it was crap weather was freezing
here. It will actually get a little warmer today but we've
had 29 degrees overnights, bad Yikes.
Yes. Angeles weather.
So some of the lead in the lead up to this was and I really have
reactions and some things I saw you have a couple of clips. I
don't know what they are, but we'll get to those. And I can
always count on you for for bringing it. But first I wanted
to
bring anything. I couldn't get good clips. You
brought what you could I knew you would bring something bring
something Bill Moyers was on the Brian cell saw this. This guy's
an idiot. He's on the Brian seltzer water show. Oh, really
because he
was on Democracy Now. And his big thing is PBS has shut down
its programming and quit that debate this debate impeachment
hearings on 24/7. Well,
that kind of contradicts that statement in his conversation
with with the seltzer kid. And of course, that's a media show.
So talking about the media and I find it what I found most
interesting is that they are discussing amongst themselves
and I presume he considers himself a journalist. Yeah. A
journalist, a news, man, what is he?
Yeah, he's been a broadcast news guy mainly for but a journalist
for 50 years, he's really an old timer. So they're sitting there
explaining lefties a very, very progressive left winger, he's
always been
Yeah. And what they're sitting there discussing is how it's
their responsibility. To Well, it goes a little bit beyond
informing, surprise, surprise, not just reporting. But as we
know, the pods honest truth that happens on podcasts all the
time, it usually gets edited out of the mainstream things. In
this case, it was left in as the truth always wants to come out
on the eve of another Impeachment Inquiry hearings
this week. Do you fear for the country, for the
first time in my long life and I was born in the Depression lived
through World War two have been a part of politics and
government for all these years now. Yes, for the first time,
because I, you know, a society a democracy can die of too many
lies. And we're getting close to that terminal moment, unless we
reverse the obsession with lies that are being fed around the
country.
So Will people care this week? Will? Will democracy hold up? I
think this process
will always care. And we have to remember that we need to serve
those people who will get up in the morning and watch the
hearings will come home at night and watch the hearings because
they really want to be confused. They want they want to be they
want to understand they want to cut through
through the confusion, the law.
They want they want. They want to be confused and
want to be confused. They want they want to be they want to
understand the law. So we have to be we have to be concerned
with them, then we have to think about how do we reach the people
who don't care. How do
we reach them? How do we let them know about the lies? They
want to be confused? Yes. That's exactly right. I just want to be
confused confusing statements such as Eric Swalwell. Who we
haven't heard from my clip. Oh, um, well, no, this is this is
not this is a clip before before the impeachment.
Oh, she was a douche. Well, let's say went to that's what's
interesting. We
have discussed many times that ambassadors are appointees that
political appointees, but they're typically high end
donors and bundlers. And you know, that's
only in the choice spots. Yeah. Oh, in the choice. Oh, sure.
Professional, foreign service people. They're into places like
Ethiopia.
Right? Well, would you? Well, then Ukraine, I guess is that
that's not a choice spot? Is it? That's a bad spot to be
perhaps, especially if you'd like vodka. And
so Swalwell has a different view of these appointees.
How important is a quid pro quo period in order for you to make
your case in an Article of Impeachment.
It's an abuse of power to remove an ambassador for political
reasons, because you don't like what they're doing.
They're appointed for political reasons. But okay. It's a gross
abuse
of power. If you ask a political ally like the Ukrainians, to
investigate your opponent. It's a gross extreme abuse of power.
If you leverage a White House meeting, which may not seem like
much to us as Americans, but to other countries, that's the most
important thing you can get. Well, it's an extraordinary
abuse of power. If you unlawful or if you remove an ambassador
the way they I
see he tried to say unlawfully, but even he can can justify
saying that
unlawful or if you remove an ambassador, the President did
ask for investigations leverage a White House meeting and $391
million in taxpayer dollars that's what we're investigating
all we can
say maybe that's all bad, but it's not impeachable.
Well, that's not America, either. If we allow that to
happen.
Okay. Oh, that's a little different. If it's just not
America. Oh cares.
As Yes, this has been around I don't know what's wrong with
this guy. He really doesn't even understand basic civics. No.
He's a congressman who thinks that what these ambassadors are,
like Supreme Court justices.
Yeah, I don't know. Well, this is I just think the way I the
way I saw this yesterday with the two witnesses who who were
chosen the ambassador a temporary ambassador, acting
ambassador and the Deputy Assistant to the this is like if
you're the Deputy Assistant to the What the hell was his title
now can State Department Deputy Assistant what what is Deputy
Assistant if you get coffee at that level or what exactly is
the
deputy of the assistant know you get your together gets to assign
who gets to call. So you
are your above most All right. So these are career.
This guy by the way that Ukrainian guy is a career. Yeah.
And that is not a plum ambassadorship by any means you
said that earlier you suggested it to big donors they get they
get England, France, Rome Vatican Vatican. Vatican is like
choice. And then there's Japan Japan has really would be good.
Russia is probably one that you might want to but this tends to
be a spook Singapore, Singapore would be nice. Singapore be
good. I'd say Hong Kong. It'd be fun. I take Australia, I,
China's probably a plum job. But you probably have to be CIA
again,
while China as you know, is as hope.
Japan for sure. Yeah.
All right. Take us into the take us into the actual meeting.
John?
Well, you know, the I was gonna play I had a shift clip where he
comes on he starts off
kind of make an observation. Is this. Is this just that I'm only
seeing it now? But shifts chair which is the chairman chair is
bigger than all the rest?
Yeah, it's a big giant chairs.
Is that always that way for all of the chairman? Chair? People?
I
believe so. Okay, but I could be wrong, because I, because this
was really noticeable. I noticed that too, and not and thinking
you're on it. I had to consider the fact that maybe this isn't
always the case. Because why would I noticed this so much. I
noticed the same thing. I mean, the chair is really big. How
come I haven't seen this before?
Monster chair. So really,
significantly bigger.
So he had his opening that went on forever and how was important
all this? I did. newness comes on. And he does his opening,
which is a little more reasonable. And I thought and
renewed as if this was long, too. But I thought the beginning
of the newness. The newness, opening the door, I called the
opening of the opening, I thought was I thought it really
summarise what's going I think he's right.
And a July open hearing of this committee. Following publication
of the Muller report, the Democrats engaged in a last
ditch effort to convince the American people that President
Trump is a Russian agent. That herring was the pitiful finale
of a three year long operation by the Democrats, the corrupt
media, and partisan bureaucrats to overturn the results of the
2016 election, after the spectacular implosion of their
Russia hoax on July 24, and which they spent years
denouncing any Republican who ever shook hands with the
Russian on July 25. They turned on a dime and now claimed the
real malfeasance is Republicans dealings with Ukraine. In the
blink of an eye, were asked to simply forget about Democrats on
this committee, falsely claiming they had more than
circumstantial evidence of collusion between President
Trump and Russians. We should forget about them reading
fabrications of Trump, Russia collusion from the steel dossier
into the Congressional Record. We should also forget about them
trying to obtain nude pictures of Trump from Russian pranksters
who pretended to be Ukrainian officials,
or those that was the radio DJs. Right, who called up chef was a
great bit. We should forget about them leaking a false story
to CNN, while he was still testifying to our committee
claiming that Donald Trump Jr. was colluding with WikiLeaks and
forget about countless other deceptions large and small that
make them the last people on Earth with the credibility to
hurl more preposterous accusations at their political
opponents. And yet now, here we are, we're supposed to take
these people at face value when they trot out a new batch of
allegations. But anyone familiar with the Democrats scorched
earth war against President Trump would not be surprised to
see all the typical signs that this is a carefully orchestrated
media smear campaign.
Yeah, well, I don't know if you have that. But at a certain
point, he said, you know, you're now in the the low rent sequel
to just Muller to the Muller movie. And now you're the
leading roles in this piece of crap. I mean, it was really
disappointing. I was expecting at least some fireworks but they
had poorly cast actors. There was no script or at least there
was a script but not with a with a plot that made any sense. It
was just that tension arc was all wrong. There was nothing.
The only thing I liked was the having professional lawyers
whose name is counsel. Yeah, little name, name sign, Nick.
I'm just counsel than that guy for the Republicans. He looked
like a horrible asshole. Nice shark man. I liked that. Those
guys that's least that some courtroom questioning that felt
a little good. You know, bump, bump, bump, and then you could
even see the guy getting a little flustered as he's
bopping. Yeah, it
was still shaking.
I'm like a rock. No, none of it was it was a very bad television
show.
Yeah. And it did put it on anything. Besides C span three.
Yeah, that was that was telling. When they put it on C span
three, you know that even when C span is not even making it prime
time. You know, you've got a dud.
So they so here's the newness and his unanswered questions. I
thought this was kind of playing it, it kind of made some sense.
It was part of his opening. And I want to play it.
We should not hold any hearings at all. Until we get answers to
three crucial questions. The Democrats are determined to
avoid asking, number one who killed Jeffrey Epstein? What is
the full extent of the Democrats prior coordination with the
whistleblower? And who else did the whistleblower coordinate
this effort with? Second, what is the full extent of Ukraine's
election meddling against the Trump campaign? And third, why
did Reshma hire Hunter Biden? And what did he do for them? And
did his position affect any US government actions under the
Obama administration? These questions will remain
outstanding because Republicans were denied the right to call
witnesses that know these answers.
And they're
so the only good clip I have because I couldn't find a list
and I tried I must have gotten by me because I probably count
down more than once. Trying to listen to this thing. Yeah. Was
this quid pro quo that wanted that apparently, the ambassador
said there's no quid pro quo. Where's that? If anyone ever
finds that I will take it and venue.
Oh, you don't? You don't have that clip? I don't have it
either.
I thought you had it couldn't find I tried
and tried. Because I heard it and then you tweeted like, oh,
the only thing is, is squid Pro or No, use the newsletter. This
is squid. I'm like, Oh, good. He's got the squid protocol clip
and you understand I got had it. Even what kind of wood but if
you hear something like this, you if you hear this, you must
clip.
I didn't hear it. I only heard of
it. Oh, you didn't hear it? I'm sorry. Okay, well, and so
when I went to go find it, I fell asleep. Probably most of
the time and then couldn't hear it. And so I never got it. So if
anybody has it, we'll run it later. But I do have this
somebody found this little jam and if you had to hear it, you
hear it in here's a little faux pause some stupidity. Here is
Swalwell grilling II grills everybody, but you never Trumper
you never Trumper you never Trumper you know, it's like
Oprah and you're never Trumper and you're never Trumper
just about an hour before the two of you sat down to testify
today. The President tweeted multiple times about this
hearing and he put in all caps never Trumpers Mr. Kent, are you
a never Trumper
I am a career non professional, who serves whatever president is
duly elected and carries out the foreign policies of that
President and I am an Android I am a robot I will do as I am to
elected and carries out the foreign policies of that
President in the United States. And I've done that for 27 years
for three Republican presidents and two Democrat presidents
Ambassador Taylor Are you a never Trumper No, sir.
Well, what was wrong with that?
He says instead of saying I'm a career nonpartisan Oh, I
didn't even hear that.
He says I'm a career non professional.
Just about an hour before the two of you sat down to testify
today. The President tweeted multiple times about this
hearing and he put in all caps never Trumpers Mr. Kent, are you
a never Trumper
I am a career non professional who serves whatever president is
duly
I do have the ISO great cats
and an ISO I am a career non professional.
End of show boom done nails.
I got other
ISOs to consider really well wait when they're appropriate.
I'd love to hear them but so far it's top of the list.
Yes well as the only one Ambassador yeah I'm a career non
professional. What is the role what
Ambassador like a robotic
speech you nailed and that's why they made that Gaffney they just
ploughed right through it. And you know, he's obviously not
Never Trump because he wouldn't deny it.
I'm giving you a borderline for that actually deserve. Deserve
deserve. It's
one of our producers, actually, yeah,
well, come on you and I don't do any work. We just sit here and
look at email and watch TV. Everybody knows it. Everybody
does all the work. Ambassador Taylor slipped up. Another. This
may be a theme today, the truth wants to come out once again. My
question,
Ambassador Taylor, the president conditioning security assistance
on an investigation into his political opponent prior to this
administration, is this something we would do all the
time? No, sir. Why not?
We condition assistance on issues that will improve our
foreign policy, serve our foreign policy use, ensure that
taxpayers money is well spent. Those are the end and those
conditions are either coming from the Congress or from policy
decisions stemming from authority Congress has given us
to make sure that the taxpayers money is well spent or that the
receiving company country takes the actions in our NASS, you
know,
that's what's happening, you know, that they're sending money
to companies. Yeah, the receiving company. And you know
that that's exactly on your brain
unless that's what's going on. Yeah.
And then this one was, I thought this was interesting, because
it's a legal thing. And as you know, I'm taking the bar next
month. So I'm always interested in these types of legal
opinions. If it gets to this is representative Quigley. Quickly
Hold on. Rewind quickly for a second,
if it gets too close to a primer on hearsay. I think the American
public needs to be reminded that Countless people have been
convicted on hearsay, because the courts have routinely
allowed and created needed exceptions to hearsay hearsay
can be much better evidence than direct, as we have learned in
painful instances, and certainly valid in it and this
gentleman yield because none of those exceptions would apply to
this testimony.
Now, did you understand any of this about hearsay being used,
and sometimes being much more powerful than direct evidence?
Well,
I heard what he said and what he what he was saying is because
these two witnesses were both basing everything on hearsay and
later it turns out at least according to one source I saw on
Twitter so it's not I haven't confirmed this but apparently,
the the ambassador later, homefield, most of his
information came from the New York Times. So
another, another clip that I was going to get, but figured you
had it because you tweeted it out. Sorry. I'm I'm unfollowing.
You blocked it? No. I'm gonna blog. Yeah, but when you blog,
which you actually commented on him, like, Oh, he's got that
clip, too. I, I'm, I'm making an asset of myself. When you assume
yes, I'm making an asset of myself. To you and me. I agree.
I have learned my lesson.
Show that which is a possibility that he just got all this stuff
from the New York Times says what else? You
know, he said this in the hearing. He said, I read The New
York Times, I
think what you got was I pointed out to this is an old spook
trick, yes. Is where you plant something in a newspaper,
usually overseas, but you can do it in the United States. Now.
You plant some bogus story in The New York Times, with sources
you know,
people, people with knowledge of the situation.
And you put that in there. You had this guy reads the New York
Times he reads the New York Times they grill him about it.
At the hearing he says yeah, well the way I heard it to Trump
was out to get this guy and then he says you read the New York
Knicks. He never says he read those testimony. Once in a
while, yeah, he Well, but but most of his testimony if it all
came from the New York Times he's not gonna say well,
according to The New York Times, according to The New York Times,
he just gonna say what he thinks as but and then the New York
Times picks it up and says just confirmed Yeah. Which is the old
Exactly. Then they say see confirmed he said it he said
what would they forget to mention that he read it in their
in their newspaper?
Yeah, it's an old trick and it's works well and agenda. People
fall for it and nobody's, nobody's the wiser. So it came
up in the conversation that there was this is all secondhand
information that he has no, he never heard this from Trump. He
never heard this from anybody at all. No, he read it someplace.
And so then this guy comes out the clip you have comes out and
starts defending hearsay. But he makes the mistake of saying
hearsay is better.
Better direct is much better. Much better, much better. What
do you know? Are you out there? Do you have a chair? A big
chair? No. Stupid citizen Be quiet. The current Democratic
nominee for the presidential race, Joseph Biden was asked to
provide some reaction. We're not sure well, did he watch did he
not watch? Let's hear what and these are? Actual journalists
who are carrying. I think if you listen to that thing, it's only
two women that I can hear this they sound like they really feel
sad for Joe. You'll hear it can you get a quick reaction Mr.
Biden, did you watch I didn't get to see it when I heard
it was pretty devastating for the President.
So the question, did you What did you think? Well, I didn't
see it or heard it was pretty devastating. How so? Will you
watch that? You know why? And then they just go yeah, just
melt away. They
sound like Oh, poor guys. Insane. senile? Yeah. Like wow,
like your old senile uncle,
because clearly he's full of crap. Clearly, he has no idea.
He just said it was pretty devastating. Which everyone
knows it wasn't devastating. Whatever you took away from it.
Well, there was a dimension be split here because I was reading
back I follow a number of people they hated the DNC and is a
bunch of these Democrats. And you read their tweets. It's like
all the presidents toast he was he was ruined by this guy.
All right, well, then he then you're reading what Joe's
reading that's then I understand
the same thing I'm reading and that's the impression you but at
least devastate but
at least you said well, I read some tweets. It was devastating.
Joe doesn't even go that far. He says okay, you watch didn't you
stupid to journalist and then I caught
this nightmare of tweets be over.
And then I caught this on one America news of all places with
the the presenter that I'm not particularly a fan of the the
blonde, blonde the kind of like the the low rent Tommy Lehren.
That's, that's the way I look at it just talking as a TV
executive people. Okay. And she has some dude on. And he's done
a Freedom of Information Act request for anything the State
Department might have regarding Hunter Biden. And it turns out,
Oh, why yes, there is something that the State Department has
its request.
All right, Josh, talk to me about this. We can show this
email on the screen. By the way, these are emails obtained using
FOIA, the Freedom of Information Act that show lobbyists for
Burisma wanting to get in contact with the Obama
administration using Hunter Biden's name. Isn't this exactly
what the Biden's have denied happened?
Sure. The answer to that, Liz is yes. Mean FOIA is a hell of a
drug FOIA litigation and in the federal courts is oftentimes
crazy just because of what it ends up divulging. And this is
no different than that. The timeline here is pretty crazy.
It looks like one month before Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to
fire this. This prosecutor who was looking into Burisma
literally one month before that threes Mo was in communication
with US State Department trying to get a meeting. And they were
expressly named dropping Hunter Biden as a reason to get that
meeting. Not
only is everything that you just said true, not only did they
name drop Hunter Biden to try to get a meeting with the Obama
administration State Department. They expressly said they wanted
to talk about corruption investigations into Burisma
exactly what Joe Biden ended up doing for them in that video
that we've all seen 100 times where he brags about a quid pro
quo getting you know the Ukrainian president to fire the
prosecutor who was investigating Burisma the board the company on
which his son sat on a board that's what this email express
that the the lobbyists said that's what they wanted to talk
about.
So I'll explain what she said without the yelling really, what
hurts my Emma yelling that's I mean, it has nothing to do with
how she looks it's it's just the yelling so there's under the
presentation skills are not your right and she's not she should
back off.
Yeah, just tone it down. 80% you'd be fine. Yeah, and Blink.
Blink one,
skip some shots that jam both stuff. Look
at that Jambo stuff we'll do Do it to her. Yeah. Have, you know,
so this, this FOIA request shows that Burisma did indeed say,
hey, we want we want a meeting with regarding this, this
prosecutor that you guys want to know that we think we should get
rid of. And, you know, by the way, Hunter Biden's on our
board, we have other prominent board members. And that's, I
believe, in the timeline, a day or two before Joe did the famous
Hey, you know, remove that prosecutor, that seems, at least
to me, it seems like that's something someone could jump on.
But no, it's on one American news. That's worse than a
podcast. That's That's nothing. Yeah.
Basic video podcast. Let's face it. Yeah. So
you know, these are just little data points. I'm sure there's
everybody has some opinion about everything, but it's just
boring. It's a bad show and a waste of time. Not that we're
unhappy doing it because that is what we do. So you don't have
to, but no, there was really nothing in it. It's just it was
Nick's senseless. Just no story. No, no, these things are all
show anyway. Let me bring Norman Lear in if you have to bring
somebody in to produce this for you. Get a rundown. Stupid. Oh,
oh, no.
Oh, yes, it's
time for the sloop once again. And this is one clip that I was
not taking any chances you wouldn't have it. This was Emma
Barnett, on BBC who had a sit down half hour interview with
Hillary and Chelsea, the gutsy women book was being promoted.
And I know you read the headline, did you hear the
interview?
I did not. Oh, you
will love it.
That brings me nicely on as a gutsy woman. Hillary, do you
feel you have unfinished business in politics?
Well, I do as a activist, advocate, citizen. No, no, I
know. I know exactly what what you meant. But I can only answer
with what I mean. Which is I'm going to keep speaking out. You
know, there are those who say Go away. Don't say anything. And
that's just not gonna
happen. She said hi to us. Did you hear it? She said,
I'm going to keep speaking out. There are those who say Go away.
Don't say anything. And that's just not going to happen to the
woods. Yeah, exactly. And never come out. That is not going to
happen. Look, I feel a sense of responsibility.
You know, you really, we had this, I had to listen to it
three times, to hear what's going on. Because you just
listened to it. And you hear what she's saying. And it's
exciting what she's saying. But when you really get down to when
she uses past tense and present tense, it gets very interesting.
Not going to happen. Look, I feel a sense of responsibility,
partly because, you know, my name was on the ballot, I got
more votes, but ended up losing to the current incumbent in the
White House, who I think is really undermining our democracy
in very fundamental ways. And I want to retire him I want
Did you say something? Yeah, I
was just stopped. Sure. I want to just ask a question. She went
when Hillary lost didn't she come out and say she's gonna do
everything she can to help this president succeed?
Do we have videotape?
Well, I think there's probably an old clip of it, but you
remember that? No, me? I should remember it. No,
I really don't remember. Oh, yeah.
Okay, well go on.
You know, I if I knew how to find the clip, I
would No, don't worry about it. It's just impossible to many
Hillary
by the way. She's not talking about the president. She's
talking about the current incumbent in the White House
because God forbid she say President, the White House
who I think is really undermining our democracy in
very fundamental ways. And I want to retire him I want to see
him retired. So I'm going to be helping our side try to put
together the strongest possible campaign which will be
difficult. Are you going to run again? No, no, no, I'm,
that is that is 100%. So in a few days, I'm gonna open my
newspaper.
Well, you know, I never say never to anything, that if I had
a few days left, I know it's way past time, but no, okay,
let's, let's and I'm going to analyse this because I have
heard it several times. She was ready for the question. So she
was ready to say no, but then when the Emma Barnett starts
questioning a little further, it's it spills out like
diarrhoea well. No, no, no, no, no.
That is 100%. So in a few days, I'm not gonna open my newspaper.
Well, you know, I never say never to anything, that if I had
a few days left, I know it's way past time. No, she
knows it's way past time. So what Emma said there very
quietly in the background was you know, you kind of have to,
you know, register in a couple of states. Hillary is well
aware. That is
that is 100% there and a few days I'm not going to open my
newspaper
Well, you know, I never say never do anything that I know
it's way past time. But you know, I, I look, I think all the
time about what kind of President I would have been
right now listen to the tense change from I would have been
and to the present,
I look, I think all the time about what kind of President I
would have been and what I would have done differently and what I
think it would have meant to our country in the world. So of
course, I think about it, I think about it all the time,
being you know, being able to do that and look, whoever wins next
time is
being able to do that she goes, would have would have would have
would have I think about it all the time be not. If I were able,
not what it would be like if I had been able had been able no
Aibling
to have a Bentley and what I think it would have meant to our
country in the world. So of course I think about it, I think
about it all the time, being you know, being able to do that and
look whoever wins next time.
I think about it all the time being able to do that. She said
she's running
able to do that. And look, whoever wins, next time is going
to have a big task trying to fix everything that's been broken.
How would you feel if in the last 40 hours or so while she's
on this trip in the UK?
Now listen to how Chelsea expertly I might add, puts Emma
Barnett in her place like shut up. This is my mom, I do what
she wants. I am her protector,
to throw her hat back in.
Well, I'm always in her corner, am I so so shut up, you know,
whatever she decides to do on any given day. I'm here to
support and love her. But you my most important. My most
important role in life now is as a mother,
expert, expert deflection. She's very good, Chelsea, she's much
better than I thought she was. At. This is not subtle. What she
said to this Emma Well, I'm always kind of support my mom,
Emma. Emma. She's running John, this woman is running. Many,
many people, many, many people want her to run all kinds of
pressure.
Many people I love
it. Oh, that's fantastic. It's fantastic. And then she added
one little,
I'd like you to look at gotcha that you nailed in this was when
the time that Hillary was familiar with the deadline, to
the point where she knew that she had missed a number of
milestones. He missed a couple. But she's not going to take Iowa
and New Hampshire anyway, she does decide even Bloomberg who
is running or claims to be he's back in the race. He says he
doesn't want to run a New Hampshire what's the point you
you have to run against a couple of New Englanders up there.
They're going to whoever wins New Hampshire well, he doesn't
matter you don't need to win New Hampshire is not that many votes
involved. Hillary
knows like no other how to manipulate the super delegates
and it's what she did with breast how she screwed Bernie,
she was screw and Bernie was very successful. And I mean,
it's it's a, it's a sawed off term but brokered convention
comes to mind.
Even that could happen. And
the problem that you have is the way I don't think you know, the
number of people have come up with this thesis that this is
going to go to the convention is going to be dead, like between
two or three people, that's why they're not getting rid of
Bernie, they're going to keep them in there, because they'll
get a lot of votes will get a lot of wins. And then Warren
will get a lot of votes, and she'll get a lot of wins and
those are the two that are going to get most of the votes in
wins. And they have to make the assumption there's not going to
be that one of them. I think that's probably a good
assumption because I get to kind of make it to that one who's not
going to run away with it. But they're also risking the
possibility that one of them is going to run away with it and
one of them could be Bernie well the Democrats are not one Bernie
and they then they don't actually want Warren either.
Right? How about I don't know what this idea this is pretty
risky. If you're going to go for a brokered convention, which you
can bring Hillary in at the last minute is going to look fishy.
Yeah, I think we need one more pillory has to run to some she's
going to have to throw her hat in the ring, and she's going to
have to run I think South Carolina she can when she went
any of the southern states easily if she gets in in time to
do that, and then she could easily win California. So she'd
get California New York. All the southern states probably pick up
Washington state and Oregon she could easily win the whole
thing. Or, or at least get it to the point where if there was a
brokered convention, it would go to her easily but it wouldn't
look like she cheated and got in at the last minute, which is
what a lot of these theorists are starting to say. Oh yeah,
no, it's just gonna wait to the end the very end and she's gonna
jump in that no, that's not gonna work. Well, how about
Charlie hat in the ring? And she has to do it before South
Carolina at least and I don't know what the deadline is for
South Carolina. I'm gonna have to look it up. How
about this device that's coming up? How about this Deval
Patrick, who is now apparently going to jump into the race?
Yeah. Deval
Patrick is an interesting character because I spotted him
he years he's got
the packaging Boy, I'll tell you he's got no he plans things
black President
Oh, yeah, I thought this years ago before he fell out of the
off the scene and then Cory Booker kind of stole his fire.
Can you imagine being Deval Patrick and having Cory Booker
steely? Oh,
yeah. Cory Booker took over word Deval Patrick left off Deval
Patrick is a tremendously erudite well spoke, oh racist.
If he's erudite and well spoke, I'm Deb if his white guide say
the same thing.
You don't understand racism. John, you don't understand. I
can't I can't say anything complimentary about this guy.
But the fact is, he is extremely appealing. Yes, I think more
than I always thought he was more appealing than Obama ever
was.
Well, he's the real deal he's he's actually run something. I
mean, this this Yeah.
He's actually run a government. Yeah. He's a real Massachusetts.
Yeah. But why he got site by the way, they pushed him off over
the side or what? I don't know. I don't get it. I don't think he
can do it. Why can't I put another black? They're not gonna
run another black male. They'd have to work real hard female
they have to because they get their rules.
And Joe Biden fits the ticket. Exactly. Well, Joe Biden, allow
me to take a small sidestep since we came just we stumbled
upon racist comments. And I called racism because it is and
I and I have proof that what you said he's erudite and well
spoken is just because he's a black man is racist. And I have
proof
but if I said that he was a white guy, we wouldn't be
racist, correct? Correct. Because Because Joe Biden is not
erudite, no. And Joe Biden is not well spoken, that's that
make him a black man
on waters world, which I had never watched, but this came up
on the OFAC show. On waters world he had a sociologist, a
PhD. So they professor of sociology, I guess, sociologist,
professor of sociology, and this is a little bit back, it was
about the math being racist, which of course is is is nuts.
And so this is not so much about the math being racist, but about
the definition of racism. And it came out in such a beautiful way
that I need to share it.
Tell me why math is racist doctor?
Yes. So, you so funny, on November 6 2016, I was at a
conference on statistics. And I raised my hand and I was like,
Are you telling me statistics are racist? And that was what,
almost three years ago? And I was really confused when I asked
the question and spent years reading about many different
things. Have you Jessie read Native Son, which I gave you
last time we met?
I read it in high school, but I have not reread it since the
last time you gave it to me. But what does that have to do with
is math racist?
So the critical race theory and is a framework for understanding
the world that helps us understand that this entire
country is racist, right? We have a white supremacist caste,
racial caste system in the United States.
For once, right, are you saying that all white people in America
are racist?
Yeah, I am too. Sometimes it happens. We were socialised.
Right, the process of socialisation or learning about
social norms. So you're,
you're a racist.
Occasionally it happens. I usually apologise it when I
realised that how are
you a racist? What do you think makes you superior?
Jesse, that question doesn't make sense.
Well, isn't racism the belief that one race is inherently
superior than another race and then you discriminate against
other races?
That is a piece of racism, but you get the definition that's
really old. And language evolves over time. And white supremacy.
What are white race and white supremacy today? Yeah, okay.
They are structures that affect us all. So people do things that
are racist all the time, myself included, because we don't
realise that's happening like, Okay,
do you understand John, do you understand how I can easily say
that you said,
every show and you and I can say the same thing course. But
this is this is the thinking and she just said it right there.
That's an old definition. Sadly, Merriam Webster's Webster, no
one has updated the definition because it has to include the
element of feeling superior over another race. And this is just
nuts. But there you have it. It's the definite language
changes. Shut up. I don't know what
the long term point of it is that you want to make sure that
all whites are racists. Yes. That knows that. No, let me
restate that. I'm not sure what the point is. To make all whites
racist. What is the point? Is there free money
control, control, control over what you can say? And even what
you can't?
Then it goes right back to your old thesis, which is this is
really a free speech issue.
Of course it is. Yeah.
So that's why we get letters condemning us for even
suggesting that the global warming nonsense is overstated,
and it is part of a control mechanism.
I was not going to do this now. But I think I should take us
right I believe I have solved vocal fry. I know what I had
vocal for. I know I didn't say it cured it. I said I have
solved the mystery of vocal fry. Why it is done? And why in
particular, young women do it. But before we do that, let's
take a moment and talk about the T globalisation.
I don't know how you make this jump, by the way.
Well, because it's also about women, young women in
particular, but also young people who are changing speech
patterns. Vocal fries, a speech pattern. Dropping teas is a
speech pattern. We were just told by this woman that we're
old in our thinking when it comes to the words we use we're
everything we say is racist. This is something being pushed
on us. And so does that seem like really such a big jump?
Yes, it does. But go on. Okay,
well, for the tea, globalisation. It is more of
what you just heard. language changes Shut up. And I went to
the expert on this. When you want to know what something's
going on with language and speech, you go to grammar girl a
study
in the journal American Speech examining the dialect of
Vermonters notice that some traditional pronunciations were
disappearing. Cow for cow for example, is declining. But that
the dropping T's is increasing, the researchers spotted it in
pronunciations like mountain for mountain mount Everman for
Vermont.
Have you heard someone say Vermont?
No, but that sounds horrible Ramona.
In another study conducted in the Western United States,
researchers found that young female speakers were more likely
to use glottal stops than other groups they studied. The
researchers suggested their findings may indicate that a
broader change in pronunciation is afoot. They noticed that
quote, the literature on socio linguistic change is replete
with studies in which young women are on the cutting edge of
language change. Unquote. And that's no surprise to people who
borrowed phrases like as if and weigh harsh from movies like
clueless and Legally Blonde. Now,
this is interesting, because what she just said, is that
people pick that up from a movie. And I would say I would
wager that as Earth isn't really used anymore, so it was not a
change. It was a temporary fad. Like, was up also coming from
media? So I called bullshit there on grammar girl, but okay,
in answer to the biggest question
what if I didn't understand what you said? She said, that young
women, okay, well, here's
what she said, we go back
is replete with studies in which young women are on the cutting
edge of language change,
young women are on the cutting edge of language change. And
then instead of Well look what developed in this with this
particular group of women No, she's now going to say that they
heard it on a movie,
unquote. And that's no surprise to people who borrowed phrases
like as if and way harsh. From movies like clueless and legally
blind. Well,
hold on. Yeah. Those movies are written usually by Hollywood
writers, and they're in Hollywood and they are not
dreaming as if they're not the writers that wrote the movie
that uses as if one of the movies was out doesn't have them
didn't they got it from the street? Yes, sure they did what
it is the women driving the women were driving the riding,
but it went away. Okay, my point is it didn't stick people still
don't don't that's that was that's not a fundamental shift a
lot of it does stick a lot of stuff stuck sticks
such as
well, I think as if Is it a lot of it? Okay, does it stick
permanently but some of this because what you're gonna do
because the the examples I'm coming up with in my head are
stuff that I know is kind of come and gone.
But but the valley girls speak in general. People don't do that
anymore. It's now perceived flaws.
There's still little hints of it.
In answer to the biggest question of all, why are people
dropping their T's? We have a disappointing answer. Nobody
really knows Oh, standard.
This clip and then it goes into there.
But keep listening. We
have a disappointing answer. Nobody really knows standard
pronunciation across a region. Even a country changes gradually
and is affected by countless untold causes. In the 400 years
since English settlers first came to North America, what we
call a British accent morphed into an American accent, and
that accent in turn birthed countless others from the
distinct dialects we hear in New York City, and Dallas to the
ones we hear in New Orleans in Minneapolis. Tea globalisation
can sound grading or slinging to some listeners today, but
someday it may be the way all of us speak and by that time, no
doubt there will be yet another new pronunciation tick that's
driving everyone to distraction. This even
calls it a pronunciation tick. Okay, this does lead into this
outstanding deconstruction I don't think this guy even knew
what he was doing. producer Joe sent me to this. This is a
YouTuber from the UK. His name is screenname Wings of Pegasus.
And he's deconstructing Patsy Cline's voice, which has a, I
didn't even really think about it. But there is vocal fry in
her voice. And he's going to explain, Well, actually, I left
out a lot. But to create vocal fry, you know, you're actually
blowing, you're using very little air, very little diet,
push from your diaphragm. To get that
you sound like a frog this way frogs make that sound
right. But you're so and she was able to go crazy, you know, she
would go in and out of that. And he says, Well, I'm going to play
the clip, that that vocal fry is part of what made her not just
unique, but so incredibly successful. And in his
deconstruction, I think he reveals the reason why women and
particularly in particular, young women have this are using
this voice technique.
The other thing that gives her such a great quality to her
voice is that vocal fry. And if you don't know what I'm talking
about, it's the way that the vocal cords come together with
minimal air in a really relaxed state. If I'm going to
demonstrate it, now I'm talking with my vocal cords coming
together, I'm getting a very definite connection. And that's
why I'm producing this noise. And if I was to hold on a
particular note, it would always be there because my vocal cords
are connected. You might find some people who talk like this,
they go well. I just told her this because it's the most
relaxed way of talking and Patsy Cline when she sings, she has
that control of her vocal cords, so that she's just beyond vocal
fry, but then can just end her lines with that. And to explain
this further when babies cry a great example because babies
don't know that they're using their voice the most efficient
way possible. Because it's automatic, it's ingrained. It's
just the way it is used. When you're a baby you can't think
about diaphragmatic support and chest voice and head voice and
falsetto. So when a baby cries, it always has vocal fry in
there. So you get
a Wah wah wah.
And it's that ah, at the end that is the vocal fry. So having
that control of your voice means that you can connect to an
audience because there is a cry in your voice. And as humans, we
are hot wired to respond to a baby's cry because of evolution
that everything about us is ensuring the next generation so
if a baby's crying, there's something wrong you have to make
it right. So if you can get that quality in your singing voice,
you are going to connect at such have a deep level, almost a
level that is human that is intrinsic within all of us. And
we don't even know that it's there. But when we hear it, we
know that
sound. I know it's a stretch. But when I heard this might have
thinking immediately went to Well, yeah, if you do this,
particularly to a woman, and maybe as a as a woman, it
triggers something at a very deep reptilian level of maybe in
you. There's more connection, more engagement, it sounds
important. And
you know, Britney Spears has almost nothing but vocal fry in
her singing. Sure.
And she's very popular. Yeah, no kidding. And you're maybe maybe
add a little data point about women not having children when
they're young. So maybe there's even some heightened awareness
in the just in their entire it's in their DNA at any certain
ages. And they hear the fry and they're drawn to it. And I'm not
saying people are doing it on purpose. But the the the
response that they're getting is much more leaning forward,
deeper engagement, particularly from women when women are doing
this.
Now there's a I don't have the clip again, I'm today's show is
a epic fail. Insofar as my clips cut, I'm not talking about
clips, I didn't clip where to go. I gotta have it on the next
show, for sure, because I made sure to put it aside. There's a
woman reading her own biography on Elizabeth flip floating
around. And she her whole voice is vocal fry. It's worse. It's
beyond Jill. I would really beyond show
so much that goes beyond Jill. But okay.
It's it. I thought the same thing one of our producers sent
it to me and I said, No, No, nothing's beyond Jill. But it
was beyond Jill. Including the long end day. He said go on
forever. Hold
on, obviously. I read The New York Times, like all day long,
mainly on my iPad app.
God so this woman is doing the same thing. And I just retweeted
it this week or so ago. I retweeted it saying yeah, this
is terrible. This is beyond jail or something along those lines
and a whole bunch of hate came my way. Oh, yeah. Oh, sure.
Followers, just people. I don't know. Where did they come out of
the woodworks? Yeah, they're all writers. Female, mostly young
adult. Why a is it's called into business. Mostly why a writers,
young adult fiction writers, and they're all women. And they were
all women. were defending the volca fry girl. And I'm thinking
this and one of them was the comment was, I don't see why
you're listening to you know, they coming on our voices not
commenting on our content, which is not true. If you think of
McLuhan esque. Because commenting on, on every I mean,
everything is part of the message. Yeah. Yeah, there's a
message and there's a message and the medium is the message.
And the voice is a message everything's a message. So you
so this is all part of the communications system. So you
can you can do this. It's legal to criticise somebody's voice. I
mean, if they sound like Elmer Fudd, and they're reading
Shakespeare is part of the message.
Of course, of course, yes. So I
have to know I have to go get this.
Well, what do you think is the basic thesis?
Well, the basic thesis is outstanding. And they would make
nothing but sense to me that women was starting to pick this
because they would get if you start to develop, say this, like
the glottal stop and all the rest of it, but let's say that
you're a woman and you're talking and vocal fry, and other
women because of the baby's trigger. Yeah. And they don't
have babies, but they still get triggered by this because it's
Primus, they get triggered, and they come closer, and they want
to listen to you more. This is why I think I got so much flak
for condemning this vocal fright. In fact, it wasn't her
message at all that was attractive to these women. It
was the fact that this woman has this crying going on. These are
women are crying, they're crying, and we're making fun of
them. And by the way, my dad is a citizen. Yeah, we these are. I
don't want to say pathetic, but these are women who are
literally crying. They're playing they're crying as they
speak, and that's where the vocal fry is. And they're,
they're, they're asking for help and nobody's giving it to him
and said, We're here like a couple of douchebags that's
calling him out as as it is.
Yes, and the way they receive that is an attack against
motherhood. That's why it's so vicious. And even though they
don't know it, when you say hey man that fry they like you. So
they're saying you can't do this you know who to Who are you old
man? Okay, Boomer, all that. But then what they're really saying
what they're saying in their heart is you don't care about
babies, you hate babies. And that's what's tricky. Yes, yes,
that's true. It's true. Once again, one night, ladies and
gentlemen, it's your no agenda show. It's how it's how the
system works. Our producer send us something, we can deconstruct
it, we break it down, we have solved vocal fry. And now to put
it to use for yourself, because you can totally get an audience
to listen to you. And I think I have to do do more cry. Maybe
that would be maybe that's where the up talk comes in. Where
well we strike up talking to some similar Wait, I want to say
something about the vocal fives you got some woman has given
them a lot of vocal fry, instead of ridiculing her like we tend
to do pretty much everything else. Go Oh, you poor thing.
Well, we now have that in your heart. It's no longer it's
saying yours. You're so you must be so sad and miserable.
It's no longer vocal fry. It's vocal cry. Vocal cry cry. Now we
understand. And I think we if we pay attention, we might learn in
particular how other women but men too, of course, I mean, I
respond to the sound of a baby.
Yeah, shut that baby up.
That's actually actually not the way I respond. But some people
do. Yes. If you've had enough of them, and they're still living
in your house. Yeah, I understand these. I understand
that to response. And since I mentioned it, I think we need to
have an OK Boomer segment on this show. This is this is a
jingle
first. We want to do a segment two we have to Okay, Boomer.
Okay, Boomer, it's okay with you. It's okay with me. Okay,
Boomer. Okay, Boomer, it's okay, Boomer. That won't be it. But
know that know that. But it will be the next no agenda animated
show us for sure. So the and now ever question, because a boomer
the cut off is 1964. Yeah. Does that mean if you're born in
1964, second half of 1960 4am. I still a boomer or is the cut off
at the at the December 31 63?
Well, I think it would have to be based on the end of World War
Two, the whatever date that was that would be the date that cut
off date. Because boomers came right. Boomers technically are
at the right at the end of World War Two is when boomers began
that's just the beginning. But what's the name? Yeah. Well,
that would be the dates would be that would be your fiscal year.
So the end of World War Two, whatever that date is, somebody
can look it up.
Well, here's what I here's what I have. boomers born 1946 to
1964. Between Okay, between 54 and 72 years old. Yeah.
Well, you arrived at you're like a late bloomer, a late bloomer.
No, I just want to know who my people are, John.
So I'm here because I
want to make sure it's
why we get long you're you barely made the cut, man. But
I'm like I'm second string Boomer. I just want to make sure
that I can feel spoken to when people say okay, Boomer, this
actually happens to me now. Okay, Boomer telling in what in
what universe Did you wake up and think that that would insult
me but okay, okay, Boomer, I think okay, Boomer is and I like
it because I do identify as a second string Boomer, I identify
with things changing that I don't like
it change it from second string is a bad attitude. It's not
second string. It's a second way second
backbencher let's call I'm a backbencher Boomer. So I'm under
the backbench but then I hear what they're doing with certain
things. And the boomer in me wants to protest the change to
the ABC song. Which I don't know if there's some derivative of
common core or not. Yes. So the ABC says
the older Boomer the OG Boomer Boomer Oh gee, I don't know
this.
What you know the song. Of course, A B C, D E, F G, H I J,
K L M N O P, Q R S T U V W X Y, z. ABC Next time won't you sing
It may
be CD, E F, G, H, I J K L M N, O P Q R S, T u w. X YZ
I want to shoot myself when I hear this that's terrible. This
is this is not good for the universe. We're out of balance
with this.
Where did that come from? Disney?
Oh, they're trying to I don't want to you want to say it.
They're trying to fuck with us.
They're trying to upset the forces of the universe and
trying to
screw us over. There's something up with this or maybe can't do
that. Or
maybe Mandela has changed the order. Maybe John Mandela
Effect. Maybe it was always this way. We just don't realise it.
Isn't that crazy? Where'd you get that? Well, someone sent it
to me. And it was on the on the YouTubes and Mike and I, I
clipped it.
Sure they didn't. Screw with the show. No, no, no, no, no, no.
That'd be going too far.
It's reprogramming of some sorts. I mean, yes. When you say
Disney is effing with us. And you're way too polite to say the
F word. I think you're right. I'm not sure what it is. But I
mean, this is almost like the three more days till Halloween
to avert Shamrock. You know, it's like they're gonna trigger
these kids and going to zombies gonna go and kill everybody. I
don't know this. I do not like the chain. And okay, Boomer. I
don't like this song. The way they've done it. I find it
jarring. And what's the point?
What's the point is I know the point. I
know the point. Because they felt LMNOP was not pronounced
correctly. Or we went too fast. And therefore the the letters L
M N O and P we're getting gypped It wasn't fair to them somehow.
Well, that's a stretch.
I don't know. LMNOP we're getting gypped I don't know it's
too much Sesame Street.
It's it's a bad deal. This whole thing is bad.
Well, with that though, it's gone off the rails. But okay,
I'd like
to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you
the man who just put the see and vocal cry. John seed
already knew Mr. Adam curry. Also in the morning all ships to
see boots on the ground, surface into water. And all the dames
nights out day
in the morning to the trolls in our troll room extraordinaire,
which you can join yourself at no agenda stream.com Every
single day, Darren Oh, was doing that in the pre stream, which is
another example every single day. There's live programming at
no agenda stream.com And I just realised this thing is people do
listen to it. We need to have a listing of what shows are on
because a lot of people hear something like oh shit, what
show is that I want to find out what show that was. So we have
to come up with some kind of after the fact programme guide
or some grid oh god and other grid in my life. But it's a
great place to hang out you can listen to the live stream of any
of our shows that are live but of course we have repeat replays
and, and just a nice cornucopia of content and you can find that
had no agenda stream.com Hello stream it straight your car.
That's right streaming through Bluetooth to your speakers, even
to your hearing aids if you wish and in the morning, a to the
artist who brought us the artwork for a episode 1189. And
this was I believe, was that data was a data who brought this
to us. doesn't sound right. Now, there's something there's a
wrong credit here on the page, which I'm very sad about now.
Yeah, no, I'm sad about that. Because I want everyone to be
credited properly. Now the artists was it was Darren it was
Darren Oh, I knew it. Darren O'Neal. And there was a refresh
my browser. I fixed it. Now we had a lot to choose from. And
there were some very good pieces and what and what we chose was
John Bolton, or as the kids say, Bolton and a black bar with the
letters anonymous over his eyes. So it was very obvious that it
was him of course with that moustache. There was another one
which I believe comic strip blogger did, which was just the
moustache, which was esoteric and kind of cool. And I've liked
the way it I liked the way it played. But I think we both
decided unanimously that it would be a good idea to support
our handler Steve Botanik with his mission to prove that John
Bolton is the Anonymous is the author known as Anonymous of the
book and of the op ed in the New York Times. So we decided we'd
be good players in the game. Isn't that what happened?
Yep. And that's what we do I wish that the some of these
these agencies would send us more money Yeah,
because we're doing good the Lord's work doing great work
here people get on it. Thank you very much Darren Oh, and all our
artists who participate in our value for value network by
helping us out in this manner by creating artwork that we can use
not just for the album or which is a great win of course, but
also just having a display to no agenda art generated are calm
people love going through that and checking all the different
crazy pieces out some gets on mugs and shirts, and hoodies at
no agenda shop.com And you can do whatever you want with it.
It's a it's another great resource and we have 10 times
the amount of images that we've that we have shows which kind of
gives you an idea of how many people compete for this and you
can contribute and if you feel like it it's tough though
because people do it during the live stream we choose it right
after the show's over. No agenda art generator.com And we have a
number of
readers in the Texas that they came in there were there was a
note that came in I should have read it during your your little
exposition on glottal stops. Because this is a letter that
came in condemning you.
Oh, yay. For
not talking about what you just talked about. But the timing was
a little he I think maybe the complaint but let me read this.
Okay. Hi there, John. This is a written in an envelope stuffed
in an envelope. By the way, I gotta also somebody said a
couple of Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself bumper stickers.
Oh, J put on her Volkswagen. Oh, I want one. Yeah, but you do.
Check out are you gonna put it on a bumper?
Yeah on Tina's. Battle look good at the
beloved Merriam Webster dictionary for the definition of
glottal stop. Wikipedia also has an entry for it. The Missing T
Found Sound in important is not being dropped. It's being
replaced by another consonant for which there is no letter in
English the glottal stop, which we just discussed, surprising or
not that the putative linguistic expert of painting on the clip
was unfamiliar with the term and adopted you're dropping the T
description. He added nothing to the conversation. Really, nobody
likes this guy
know that he is not he's not coming back into the tank. He's
probably
given up on the show. I'm sorry, because the other entries that
popped up during my recent search was a term that Adam may
like, globalisation, no. Male glottal stop phenomenon at least
a year ago. No, yeah, I'm a dick. But he's a busy feller.
And I must have missed it in time and must have missed it
entirely. And then he says the creeping globalism has got to
stop.
But isn't it isn't it guys ation? You can't say
globalisation has got to be diarization.
If you wanted to be modern, I don't think so.
Not a now and then now I'm gonna start reading I will get into
the donations. I'm sorry. I delayed it. But there's a name
mentioned in the first line of this. The guy wants to be
anonymous. I don't understand. Was that him? Or is that
somebody else to do here? I'm
what I'm what I think happened. But I'm not sure so we cannot do
it. I believe anonymous. Who comes in from China? Guangdong
Lanzhou. What says Guangzhou Guangdong?
Guangdong? Yeah, he's in the state of Guam.
Don't I like how you yell at me when I do that? Makes me makes
me feel loved and wanted it's possible you it's possible that
he wanted to make someone a knight.
Oh, I see. Because there's a new bakery says just
don't mention the name because I don't know. And Eric didn't mark
it. So it's not on the list. So I don't believe that this is I
don't think we should risk it. Particularly if someone's in
China. It's not a good idea to risk but we're having
trouble because they follow everything and that Chinese
probably do listen to the show.
Well, they're taking their foreign policy advice from us
hellos
okay, we'll we'll we'll let it we'll put it in abeyance but we
will add the total to today's totals. Anonymous from go
Hangzhou in Guangdong, gave us $101,111.11 And that was a
celebration of the veterans.
And we really appreciate the support and please do send us an
email so that we can understand if we have anything or anyone
else that Oregon or Adam had curry.com.com
Yeah, it curious these followed that he's his donation which is
very appreciated is followed by another anonymous donation of
$420.42. ITN ITM and honour my 42nd trip around the flaming
fireball in the sky today live in third day 1113. I'm donating
420 42 towards Darren O'Neill's knighthood.
Wow. How nice is that this donation should take care of it.
And then he's got some, some got some. Well, how counting?
Well, how come? Darren is not on the list? What does our back
office doing?
I know they are putting people on the list. But it's possible
this is another one that's screwy Darren can report back
with his name, name edge and such keep on keeping on Darren
Hey Darren My only request is for some health karma that to
all that needed thank you for your courage and such.
Darren O'Neill I think Darren is still still hanging out because
he
Uffizi in their chat room that we can he can give us a name
image and we can put them on the list if he wants it.
Well Darren oh just went wow I'm really high now he went wow so
he's in there in the troll room. Darren if you if you want to be
knighted today we can do it cuz this does complete this
anonymous who you must know it because this anonymous person
knows that you have previously donated and that this amount
should bring you to knighthood I just need to know what your what
your what your night name will be and we can add you to the or
you or we can do it Sunday if you want either way now he's he
fell over I don't think he can reply
Well he'll he'll respond in a second. Let
me get the hell out. You
have to stop right here a second. Zephyr just went by
Oh, the economy is booming.
No the dime really the first ever went by on time and now
it's 1030 My time and another day I think this is the coastal
that is like days late or something. Let me see what this
was nice. It was nine cars. It looks like the Zephyr they very
identical looking at some things to miss.
Well, maybe well, let me see. What do we have?
I should get my Amtrak
well. scheduler the Dow The Dow is up 92 I'm telling you this is
an economic indicator more than once Yes, the more cars the
better. And now you cannot deny that that's Oh wait a minute I
just refreshed know the Dow is now down 35 Okay, so you're I
think you're you've got to figure out how this works. It's
in there somewhere
All right. So Darryl comes back we'll well he hasn't come back
let me do the hobby. Hung up he went no, no
he's bowled over I'm gonna do the karma here health karma with
a goat twist for Darren you've got karma
he's gonna have to name yourself Dame something because the dame
Dr. Mark man sick is next on the list. He drops his right to
Associate Executive Producer at $240. us and our vada Arvada
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Anyone that says they have no agenda almost certainly has an
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President Trump said that because of the killing of Al
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it. But we have a lot of work that must still be done in the
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Well, there we have some homeless news.
Oh, we do I have homeless news. What kind of homeless news do
you have?
Well, I got two clips here one of them's better than the other
but let's play the first one. This is homeless report. In La
just steps away from The
Hollywood Walk of Fame a horrifying random attack.
A homeless man come to a bucket of stuff on your head
a bucket of diarrhoea. I didn't want it to be in my mouth but it
was running down my eyes.
For over a year the NBC for it has been tracking crimes where
the suspects are homeless. Tonight we have learned those
incidents are skyrocketing. Investigative reporter Joel
Grover reports on the growing threat linked to the untreated
mental illness and drug addiction on LA's streets of
shame.
Keep your eye on the woman walking out of this apartment
building a homeless man approaches and suddenly smacked
her in the head. There are now 1000s of crimes a year like this
one in which the suspects are homeless. And in many cases
suffering from mental illness or substance abuse
Do you have the whole clip of the woman explained she went I
do down crying man.
This is the next clip is got is another report is slightly
different. And it's got the same woman bitching about being
horrible. Some guy took a well play clip to
Van Tassel was walking to her car near Hollywood's Walk of
Fame. When according to police and court records, a transient
with schizophrenia and psychotic disorders, dumped faeces all
over her
a bucket of his diarrhoea. It was liquid hot liquid, I was
soaked and I couldn't see it was coming off of my eyelashes into
my eyes. Paramedics
rushed her to the hospital, and she now needs to be tested for
infectious diseases every three months.
That's something I won't ever forget. It was. I mean, it was
gusting
for over a year the AI team has been reporting on crimes where
the suspects are homeless. Like this guy arrested for setting
fire to chairs at a downtown Steakhouse. And this homeless
man pushing someone in front of a truck. There were more than
6000 of these reporting crimes in LA in 2017. By the end of
2018, the number of crimes was up more than 50%. And now we've
learned the numbers are on track to climb even higher this year.
We found case after case where the suspects suffer from mental
illness or methamphetamine abuse. meth use has been linked
to violence and so is untreated mental illness. How could you
live
in this kind of environment and be okay? Mentally Okay, mentally
Okay.
Reverend Andy bales runs the Union Rescue Mission says life
on the streets lead to violent behaviour. Absolutely like the
attack on that woman on a downtown LA Street. Keep
watching. Just seconds later, the man punched another victim
attorney Brandon Cohen, were you kind of in shock when it
happened? What was shocking was that I lived here for four years
and it didn't happen sooner. We found the homeless who are
arrested for these crimes are often right back on the streets
without getting any treatment or help. I am always on the lookout
we discovered that Brandon Cohen's attacker Charles fuller
had four previous felony convictions. But after he
attacked Cohen the cops simply gave him a citation for battery
and let him go four months later a block away a similar attack
against this mother and daughter. The police didn't make
an arrest so the suspect wasn't identified.
Well, this brings me to the Iso I have the competitive ISO and
it may be long I mean, it's three seconds
maybe too long,
but it's so good
yeah, it's not three seconds is five seconds. Here we go.
Bucket of diarrhoea it was liquid hot liquid
I was so it's too long.
It's too was hot liquid I was soaked is that it's not too
long.
Now you gave me a five second ISO for a two second slot. I
look I like first of all, you're trouncing on my turf. This is my
turf, but okay, it's fine. And I was I was making the clip when I
looked at your list and like another one you're just walking
all over my my beat.
This is walking all over if epic fail day. The truth must come
out.
Luckily. Luckily Los Angeles has a solution. The mayor of Los
Angeles what's his name? The mayor and his name here
somewhere? Arid again. And no gar City Mayor Eric Garcetti has
come up with a solution. Something that we've looked at
extensively not as a as a homeless solution. I actually
looked at it as a home solution at one point during the show in
the past 12 years. Containers they're going to stay
containers, shipping containers and turn these into units for
the homeless. There's only one small issue the each unit cost
now you can buy a shipping container for about five grand.
And we've looked into this between three is a shitty one
but $5,000 you get a little more you get a beautiful one. And
then you spend whatever you need to spend to make the unit but
the basic walls even a door. That is $5,000
I didn't realise you were that expensive. Yeah,
well that's a lot of iron.
Right, I guess Yeah, you'd have to mostly aluminium
when they're completed each of these units of these shipping
container units and Los Angeles will cost $600,000 each. What
Yeah.
Yeah, I suspect a scam.
Yeah. And then this is this is coming from KF fi. And those
guys was Darian la so they they they didn't know I'm sure this
is correct. But this is $1.2 billion bond that that they have
to spend somehow so he might as well put into $600,000
containers shipping container units almost as dumb as Austin
you know this is Oh my god you're such a mess here. So we
got this camping ground designated and yesterday
although it was raining was really crap whether I'm like
it's it's at mon topless and 183 I let me go look, let me go find
it. This is kind of a nutty intersection. You go on Mon
topless continues underneath the highway. And I could not find
this campground. It must be somewhere behind some other
building. I can't find it. What I did find under 183 on one
topless were about 510. So I don't understand. What have they
cleaned anything up? Or is that just a PR moment? Did something
really take place? Is there even an actual campground that these
people are on? I'm gonna have to go out again tomorrow to see if
I can find it because I could not find it. And then all of a
sudden this is all bull. And there's new plans that are
cropping up. And Austin has come up with a spectacular solution.
Oh, we should have thought of this earlier records
obtained by kx and investigators show where Austin could look to
house the city's homeless
just comes as Austin police begin enforcing new camping
restrictions this week takes the investigator Kevin Clark found
us that he is targeting several hotels for possible housing.
It's an old bed and breakfast built in 1916. It's got six
rooms available. It's just blocks from the Capitol and it's
right across the street from accs Rio Grande campus. Yet it's
one of the for sale hotel properties the city could look
to buy and convert into homeless housing.
We don't want anyone in our community camping or lying in
public places or being forced to do that because there's no other
place for them to go.
And as Austin looks to find housing for the city's homeless
we have people in the community
that are stepping forward right now with properties that might
we might be able to consider buying that don't require a lot
of rework to make available. Specifically I'm talking about
some hoop house
kicks and obtain this email from interim real estate officer Alex
Gale showing the list of hotels and motels for sale in Austin.
The email was sent and then homeless Strategy Officer Laurie
Pam pillow Harris, who's now a consultant with homeless issues.
The properties are spread far and wide around Austin. The red
roof in off i 35 has 142 rooms. Then there's the quality suites
near 35 and Ben White in South Austin. It has a capacity of 51
rooms. We know there are at least seven hotel properties in
Austin that are for sale right now. A city spokesperson could
only confirm that Austin is in negotiations for multiple hotel
properties, but wouldn't go into further details.
Yeah, they're looking at spending $8 million on one of
these hotels and
they're reinventing in Austin. They're re inventing the slum
Hotel.
Yes. And it's it's genius. Apparently.
This is an old, this is an idea from the 20s. And
and there's a there's one hotel that they want to buy for $8
million. I think it has 40 rooms $8,000,000.40 rooms. But Catch
this. They're not going to You don't you don't have to.
Basically there's no requirements. So doesn't matter
what state you're in what state of mind or state of anything.
You you get on the list you're in. You're in your own room. No
matter your head against the wall, no man, no mandatory
programme, but they will keep offering it to you. So as I
heard at the Seattle City Council meeting, I didn't clip
it will bang on the door every day offering help. So the way I
get that what is a $8 million divided by 40. And by the way,
who's who's going to provide security? Is there going to be
maintenance? Do they just call
someone and the maintenance guy comes and fixes their light
bulb? I mean, is this wow, yeah. Well, there's there's more
craziness. So yesterday there was a big ah, when it comes to
schooling in Austin. Oh man, people get really upset. And
there's a new curriculum, a sexual education curriculum. For
think seventh and eighth graders. How old are they? 12
What's an eighth grader? 13 Busey
graduating high school 17 and 18. So strapped for 1414 could
be a good 1414 1314
So it's that it got approved. So this report is before went for a
vote before the school board. And it's controversial
before the doors ever open fireworks tonight at the Austin
ISD school board meeting
a ISD. Police arrested a transgender woman as she
disrupted a rally outside district headquarters.
Just as a rally opposed to the proposed Austin ISD sex ed
changes began. Protests erupted it
was 31 Black transgender woman fatally shot.
Austin ISD police stepping in arresting a transgender woman
Naomi Wilson, accusing her of trespassing. duelling rallies
for and against the proposed curriculum played out before a
PAC school.
They actually showed the guy with that with that phoney
birthday horn in his face. When that sound came out. It was very
funny edit.
duelling rallies for and against the proposed curriculum played
out before a PAC school board meeting
is this society where we're just telling 1112 13 year olds while
they're just going to have sex, can we not aim higher for our
kids.
If approved, the new curriculum will be for students in third
through eighth grade. It includes lessons for elementary
students on gender identity, sexual orientation, and STDs.
Meantime, seventh graders will learn about how to use a condom.
It's time that we revisited time we bring in some, you know,
better language about different people.
126 people signed up to speak during public comment. Last
ditch efforts to sway the board's decision before the
final vote. District staff created this curriculum after
this state blocked it from behind the curriculum from
Planned Parenthood school board still listening to public
comment. It actually just got started on this topic. So it
will likely be hours before a final vote.
So they bought this curriculum from Planned Parenthood. That's
an interesting business line. I didn't know they were in the
making sex education curriculum
for third graders,
and I have an example of this in practice. This is a version and
by the way, I'm not of course against sexual education. I
think there's some decisions about parents and some age
appropriateness. And but when you listen to this shit, man,
it's just confusing.
Hi, I'm Nadine a sex educator. And I'm Eva, a sex researcher I
use the pronouns she and her because I'm a woman. And when I
was your age, it used to be a girl
gender is how you feel on the inside about whether you're a
boy or a girl a man or a woman. If you're not binary feel like
neither or both people can also be fluid feel more like female
more like male on an based on a different day or time it's
really individual absolutely everyone born with a vulva is a
girl true or false?
Or identifies? Not everybody is sure. And that makes sense. But
our genitals actually don't determine our gender. So some
people born with Volvo's can
a voice. Let's learn a little bit more about gender. We
actually have an extra special visitor to sex ed school
I have been through the spectrum. If we were to say a
spectrum of like
this, this person is sitting on a chair in the classroom with
the kids huddled around and and he's explaining his, his
sexualized gender
boys and girls. I have been everywhere in between. I was
born a girl. And then when I was two years old, I told my mom for
the first time that I was a boy. And I think that I framed it. I
don't remember it. I've only been told stories, but I framed
it because my brother's middle name was the same as my dad's.
And so I insisted that my middle name was also the same as his.
But back in the day, there was no talk shows and there was no
internet there was no resources, so she just ignored it. And then
nothing happened for Many, many years. And then it still took me
a long time into my 20s before I decided to transition, but in
there, I was a, you know, a tomboy, if that's what we say,
or like, I was 40, I had short hair. And then I grew it out in
high school because I felt like I should. And I felt like that's
what people wanted me to be. And then, in my 20s, I decided to
become a drag king, which we don't hear about as much like
drag queens are in the news all the time. But a drag king is a
little bit different. So for me, it was I, in my daily life, I
was a girl. But then when I went on stage, and I wanted to
perform, I would perform as male and I would use he him pronouns.
And that was kind of a way for the first time where people were
seeing me as a boy, and that's when it kind of clicked in my
head of, I actually want to do this when I'm off stage as well.
I just don't know if this is appropriate for young children.
It's just confusing. I mean, all these things you can talk about.
Oh, yeah. When you're curious, you want to know about it, but
what what is, when is this appropriate and when is it
appropriate for the school to be doing this? Okay, Boomer, I have
big Okay, Boomer, and it's just like, it's tough enough just
figuring out what to do with the thing and where to put it or
whatever. I'm just speaking from a guy.
Yeah, the thing of course, they don't even show kids how to
balance a chequebook, but they go into this.
What is it? Okay, Boomer, what's the chequebook? Google's gonna
have your bank account? Surely you know this?
Yeah, apparently, that's what's going on. I found a line which I
don't think I would have heard ever, what the whole gender
thing has is fairly recent. I mean, gender is always assumed
when they statement our genitals do not determine our gender is a
fairly new construct. And I think the history of this would
be kind of interesting. I'm sure they could drag it you can find
some references all in the 1700s You know, so and so said this or
that. But this is really not true. This is a this is a recent
invention that has been thrust on the public and the public has
just lapped it up, or what are they put up with it? I think
that they resist it and then they get pounded to death.
Yes. And it's very unpopular to say no, I don't want my child
learning this or I'd like to teach my child you can opt out
by the way, but you have to do it in time and of course that
stigmatises the kid then what do you what are you man you can't
you've got what's wrong with you? You can't handle the truth.
Just the whole thing seems a little too controversial for
school. Where we should be learning lots
of important homeschooling is the way to go.
Well, since we're doing this, this nutty social justice
warrior stuff. I have one Okay, Boomer one more for me. One
more. This one I actually I it speaks to me directly. And this
is bullshit and I will play the bullshit jingle for that very
reason. This is Good Morning Britain with a woman who is
pleading that we really should ban clapping, it needs to be
replaced by jazz hands. But what is her reasoning behind that
works, it is upsetting genuinely about clapping.
So it's actually not just for people with anxiety. It's also
people who use hearing aids coughing can be disruptive to
that bullshit.
Go home. No clapping is not terrifying or disruptive or
startling when you wear hearing aids. I have hearing aids. It's
not true. And what kind of reasoning is this and this and
all of a sudden we have to stop clapping because of people with
hearing aids. No. Not true
about clapping. So it's actually not just the people with
anxiety. It's also people who use hearing aids clapping can be
disruptive to that. People who have sensory processing issues.
It can be very distressing and overwhelming to have those loud
sudden noises.
But it is part of our culture, isn't it to clap. If you go to
the theatre or you go to a lecture, or you go to a
performance or you go to a gig, you would expect that people
would clap?
Yeah, absolutely. And that could be preventing people from going
to those events, which is a real shame. So if some theatres or
some universities say actually we can be more inclusive, and do
jazz hands instead, it'd be lovely. And when people could
get involved and then
what would be the penalty if you clapped? I don't
think there's going to be a penalty. Frankly, I don't think
anyone's going to say like you need to leave. But if you were
persisting with clapping, even though you've been requested to
do something that's not very polite is it?
I mean, it's nothing new but just the whole bull crap about
hearing aids really got my goat.
Yeah, well, the whole this is stupid. Yes, it is.
disheartening, she
Gas hands
Yes, jazz hands. Indeed.
I mean, this is almost like a test. It's just like there's
some societal test going on and people are being graded new
dude, maybe, you know, like The Truman Show or something and
they're watching and somebody say, Oh, they're going along
with that one. Okay, they would they get shipped off. I mean,
going to pity the levels of stupidity is this is like a
test. I don't know what it is. But okay, Boomer. It's good for
me.
Well, let's see what else we got here. I got a couple of the Don
Sherry was fired. Yes.
This was a that is Don Cherry on the level of like Howard Cosell
in Canada. Navia. Is he?
Or Howard Cosell was fired for store saying little monkey?
Not why would he be fired for that?
But he it was it was in context. It was like it was not
intentional that he was calling anybody a monkey. He was just
talking about this one player who was running around crazy on
the field. And he thought he knew he drew that term and there
was the end of that. But Don Cherry's Yeah, I would say
that's a good it's a good analogy, even though nobody
knows who listens to this show knows who Howard Coase Howard
Cosell
is Eric comes ladies and gentlemen, the chairman of the
board, Frank Sinatra.
Legacy him and old Woody Allen movies now. So cherry just
bitches about immigrants. And this is a work of art where I'm
going to play. And they play the whole thing. And pretty much
what Sherry had to say is in this clip, I tried to find a
whole thing I found a chunk of but at no time does he ever say
the word white, or black or anything in between. He, for all
practical purposes just is bitching about immigrants,
specifically, not buying the little poppies. Now we talked
about these little poppies, on on the DH unplugged show.
Because even Horowitz is unfamiliar with this with this
blog really?
Well. You know, I lived in the UK, so I'm very familiar with
it.
Well, it was popular in the United States to Oh, this guy in
the 50s and 60s, you could get these puppies and they sold them
at all the grocery stores. I talked to horror, somebody you
never heard of such a thing. They still do it as some states
in the South. I've seen it every once in a while. And I'm always
amused by it. But the United States has given up on this Mac.
They don't care when in Canada well.
Historically, just now this falls on Veterans Day, which
used to be Armistice Day. And the top is about Armistice Day,
the end of World War One which is still celebrated in the
United States of Britain. And of course, then being a nice, you
know, the colonial bit of Australia and Canada. Navia need
to participate in this and a lot of Scandinavians died in World
War One. Yes, a lot.
And so we had, so they sell the poppies, they still do the
poppy, bit newer, the poppy on the 1111. You were little poppy
new I went a couple days later. No,
no, no, no, no, no. Having lived in the UK for five years. These
things are everywhere. They're at every checkout counter. It is
viewer a social pariah. If you don't buy a puppy and wear it,
it's really for the entire weekend. It's a couple days
leading up to 1111. And you can wear it a few days after. But
you're supposed to be wearing it really for almost a week. And
there's no excuse because they're practically running up
to you on the street and pinning them on you. And it's yes and I
was there,
dissipated it in the 60s 50s and 60s that used to be here to why
it died out. I don't know I bet somebody probably out there
knows and I expect to get a letter explaining it. But it
died out in this country accepting like I said a couple
of southern states they still do it. But we don't do that at all.
And in fact, to the point where it Horowitz didn't even know
what I was talking about. That's how he feels it was
he should be ashamed why he should be ashamed. Well, he
should. But so here's what happens with cherries bitching
about the Democrats not wearing the poppies. And they turn this
into an unbelievable story. And let's play Don Cherry event one
caring to target immigrants in a rant about people not wearing
puppies ahead of Remembrance Day.
You people love you. Come here, whatever it is. You love our way
of life. You'll love our milk and honey, at least you could
pay a couple of bucks for puppies or something like that.
The 85 year old made the remarks on side Thursday night during
his weekly Coach's Corner segment was part of notice
they said the 85 year old she should have just said okay
Boomer, that would have been easier like that.
The 85 year old made the remarks on Saturday night during his
weekly Coach's Corner segment as part of Hockey night in Canada.
Terry told longtime co commentator Ron MacLean, he
rarely sees people wearing poppies anymore, to honour
veterans appearing to take aim squarely at those he believes
are new immigrants. Several Canadians promptly took to
social media to condemn Cherry's comments as racist and call for
his firing.
These guys pay for your way of life that you enjoy in Canada.
These guys paid the biggest price
McLane was also called out for not saying anything in response,
instead flushing cherry, a quick thumbs up.
I owe you an apology to that's the big thing that I want to
emphasise. I sat there did not catch it did not respond. The
host
of Rogers hometown hockey express remorse on Sunday night
for how he handled himself during the broadcast.
It certainly doesn't stand for what sports net or Rogers
represents. Last night was a really great lesson to Don and
me we were wrong. And I sincerely apologise and I wanted
to thank you for calling me and Don on that last night.
Sports net which produces Hockey night in Canada has apologised,
saying in a statement. Don's discriminatory comments are
offensive and they do not represent our values. And what
we stand for as a network.
Now are stopping it because it continues it where it gets
really good. First of all, his partner said we were wrong and
he threw he threw Don under the bus. Yeah, Sherry came on some
other shows later. So I didn't apologise for anything. And I
didn't think we were wrong. He says my use of the word you
people seems to be worthy to trigger racists and then he says
that may have been a mistake. But he was still condemning the
immigrants for now Good for him. He's been granted anti immigrant
rant, which is, you know, I suppose is fine. Oh,
sorry. He didn't go on an anti immigrant rant. He said, It's
not anti immigrant. He said these new people, these
immigrants are not participating in a cultural event. And you
need to integrate a little bit and I think he then said by the
way, a lot of the guys that we remember and gals guys more died
so that you can be here in our cold ass country.
I think you're correct. And I think that probably would have
ended it there. But not your people because they have to
rationalise getting rid of this guy. Yeah. Had to twist this is
very interesting use of they twisted the thing it not turned
out not to be an anti immigrant rant, even though what you heard
is all he said.
He hates blacks.
I told you he's racist.
Is this clip to MBA
before he started, I would just want to make sure people should
listen carefully to how the media just distorted the whole
thing. And it got people to go along with this to the point
where it wasn't just as an immigrant complaint, which is
what you describe it a complaint about not taking part. It's a
racial, it turns into the he's hates blacks, and he hates
black. Wait, let's go further. He hates black veterans. This
I missed all this you right? This is groovy. I can't wait.
Here we go.
We've spoken to Don about the severity of this issue. And we
sincerely apologise for these divisive remarks. Sportsnet is
the division of Rogers media, the parent company of City News,
he needs to sit down and stop talking. sports writer sharena
Ahmed says Cherry's comments took a personal turn when he
said, You people, she adds his narrative that those who served
our country we're all white is not only historically
inaccurate, but an insult to 1000s of veterans and their
families that Don Cherry gets to sit there and a pine about how
we remember vets is horrible to me. I mean, this is a man that's
never served. had he taken a moment to recognise, you know,
the black Canadian fighters, the Indigenous men that gave their
lives, who he describes and defines as a vet doesn't include
everybody. After Terry's comments. Even the Canadian
Armed Forces tweeted a reminder about the important
contributions and sacrifices soldiers of colour have made to
Canada's military. It says they fought to fight for Canada. They
fought for the chance to give their lives for Canada. They
fought for your right to choose they are us.
Wow. That I still don't know exactly how that happened. I
heard that that woman come in the young girl
who is Muslim wearing a hijab Job, Job.
Oh, that is that is that's pretty, you know, for some
backup Americans. You Guys, you guys doing pretty good up there.
You got this stuff down.
So she comes on and makes a complaint and she brings in
white which was never discussed. And it gets twisted in because
she is like feels offended she was offended. And next thing you
know they he hates black veterans. It's like you go from
complaining about people not wearing a poppy to you hate
black veterans. Just bang bang bang. It was a work of art. I
thought
that is a D platforming on a massive scale. They just took
him right out and then just turned it around into your
racist because you don't even you're too ignorant to know that
there were black veterans.
Unbelievable. Yeah, I was taken aback and yeah,
that that is fantastic. I mean, it's it's sad. And it's there no
pushback. I mean, it was certainly our can the Navy and
producers can. These cancel. It's just cancelled. They can
No, he's done. He's cancelled. Yeah, that's cancelled and in
the bin.
I believe, though that there was they were out to get him for a
while.
There must, must be. There must be more behind this that well,
yes, because
he's 85. He's hogging this spot on the air. He won't retire. And
it's like he's de Rasul. He's, the only reason people watch the
show is because he's makes these kinds of comments and he goes
off the deep end a lot. And it's fun. He's a fun guy. I've
watched him. He's hilarious. He's great. It's called Coach's
Corner is the main show. He talks about the hockey game and
how these guys are playing poorly. Because they're not
doing things right. And then he has seen he describes everything
they should be doing and what they're not doing right. What
days very good. He's like Johnny Miller, if you're good to watch
him do golf commentation. He is. Excellent did because he mainly
because he's very harsh. People like don't they like honesty,
even though sometimes you can be wrong. I mean, that's why our
show is so popular because we're honest. We don't we don't have
anyone telling us not to do stuff. Jerry felt that way that
he did that he was like pretty much a freelancer, you know, do
whatever he wanted, and then they just get sick of it and
look for the first boat out of town and they kicked him on it.
Well, at least that won't happen with us anymore. Dogs just a
quickie. There was an article in The Guardian that caught my eye
because the title of it was Should we stop keeping pets and
the sub title, research into animal's emotional lives has
cast doubt on the ethics of pet keeping. And, like we finally
come full circle, I'll read a few bits. And this is serious.
This is not I'm not joking. This is not the onion. From the
animals that become dog and cat food and the puppy farms
churning out increasingly unhealthy purebred canine so the
goldfish sold by the bag and the crickets by the box. pet
ownership is problematic because it denies animals the right of
self determination. Ultimately, we bring them into our lives
because we want them then we dictate what they eat, where
they live, how they behave, how they look, even whether they get
to keep their sex
organs. Is the Babylon B.
This is no this is the guardian. treating animals as commodities
isn't new or shocking. Cubans have been meat eaters and animal
skin wares for millennia, blah, blah, blah, move forward. Quote,
it's morally problematic, because more people are thinking
of pets as people. That's what I always say. They consider them
part of their family. They think of them as their best friend.
They wouldn't sell them for a million dollars, says Dr. Hal
Hertzog professor of psychology at Western Carolina University.
But at the same time research is revealing that the emotional
lives of animals even relatively, quote simple
animals, such as goldfish are far more complex and rich than
we once thought. The logical consequence is that the more we
attribute them with these characteristics, the less right
we have to control every single aspect of their lives. This is
where it's going to go in you could almost we could have
actually I could have predicted this. It's going to be cruel to
have an animal because dogs are people too. It will be cruel if
you give the dog to eat what you want the dog to eat, tell them
where to lie down and cut his nuts off. In this guy, this is
going to be very problematic. People are going to get brain
fried from this.
Not to give the dog the right to vote.
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The 22nd also Oh, that's Oh, we jumped right to next week. Well,
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Netherlands, the city of international justice and world
peace and the seat of the Dutch government, the residence of our
King and loads and loads of expats the venue will be
a little town And yeah in miniature world.
It's not far from there. The venue will be the fiddler den
half in the heart of the city a five minute walk from the bingo
hall where the Dutch knights Hall is situated so all unites
and Dame should not feel out of place and it can never be enough
at any enough na meetups Robin of the dunes of The Hague is
organising that and I'll just add in Kamloops British
Columbia, Canada. Navia six o'clock on next Saturday, and
that will be at the noble pig. And those are your meetups for
now I did have a meet up report and I'd ask people to send a
video or audio I did get one but it was kind of like a presented
meet up it was was too long, minute and a half but it wasn't
the Boston meetup which we already reviewed, right we did
we did the report. Anyway, this is a still written Orange County
meet up. Let's see. Although the outing had a few hiccups and a
few less attendees, they had nine which is still not bad. A
grand time was had by all who made the sojourn. We met with
some new no agenda. Ian's reconnected with old ones and
check this even had a brief video chat with Sir Chris
Wilson, who regaled us with songs and bits to keep us
entertained while we looked for a second venue. While Chris
Wilson he just dialled in on on video chat that just entertained
people love that guy.
He is the true troubadour.
He is the true troubadour. Which brick wall the drunken minstrel
is his title. Which brings us to the drunken troubadour This
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and that was just in case John wanted to attend Yep. And found
that it was over I
did I wanted to attend but they jacked up the prices on flights
to John Wayne so high that it was not it was not
practical southwest isn't that like their main their main
one of their main one of their Well the main one is Phoenix but
well anyway we found it was overcrowded and loud A F look it
up John they say it's like an okay Boomer slam.
We were talking about autofocus
Exactly, we were forced to find a second venue after a few na
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it's Fez. Fantastic. I have a couple of things to get to
before we go in with more clips. Okay. This is my list. You're
listening stuff we supposed to talk about. We never do.
Oh, you? Did you clean up the office and you fell? Oh, no,
I have it hanging from the ceiling on a string. And for
some reason, the last show I never noticed it. So. So here it
is. Okay. You were discussing while in Amsterdam? Credit card.
You can't buy dope, meaning marijuana or hashish or whatever
with a credit card? Or I'm sorry, with cash you have? No
you can't use a credit card. But you have talked about on the
show many a time that you can't use cash in Amsterdam. So how
does this work?
Well, you're right. There is I tried to and now the way the
this particular coffee shop work, which was in Rotterdam,
very modern on the inside, and it's all so you walk in it's
kind of like a little waiting room. And then behind the glass.
There's two people who are selling the product with like,
can we stop
and back up? And let me ask a question that probably was
answered years ago, but I want to ask it again. Why are
marijuana pot smoking places called coffee shops?
Because you can buy coffee there as well. They are they
originally were coffee shops where you could smoke and then
it kind of became smoke shops where you can coffee.
So if you actually had a real coffee shop, you couldn't cut
and you didn't want to smell sell anything but coffee, like a
true coffee shop. You couldn't really call it a coffee shop and
in Holland. In fact,
I think you may not even be allowed to call it a coffee
shop. Because of the connotation Yeah, because there's no you're
not allowed to create new ones. as it's being phased out to
harmonise with the European Union, so eventually this will
be gone, by the way you eat is not actually legal in Holland,
it is permitted, but it is not legal. And there are some very
there's strict restrictions on the sellers. So it's kind of
like buying a train trick ticket, we have the little, you
know, you can slide your, your ID underneath the, through the,
underneath the window, the little slot there. Most people
are requested. And of course, I have a Texas driver's licence,
which was accepted. But I You can't swipe it or tap it on
there. They have government ID, and everyone's just like, oh,
okay, I'll just prove who I am. And they, they swipe their
government ID and it says, Okay, you're approved. Of course, the
government now knows you're buying weed. But that's just a
minor, minor thing that I guess the Dutch don't care about. So
that's to prove that you can actually buy it, then you
purchase. And I just need to have a pin machine, which is for
your your debit card, your pin card, which actually doesn't
work on the debit card system. It only works on the Dutch
banking system, which is why they call it a pin card. And I
put my credit card in and it went like, wow, Should I try it
again? I'm sure it'll No, no, no. And then it came. Fein VT up
credit. She said, I said, What feign veto credit, which
translates it rhymes, but it translates to no weed on credit
cane VT up credit. And I said, oh, so yeah, that's the law. You
cannot buy weed on credit. Which makes sense. I'm okay with that.
But of course, I didn't have a pin card. So I did have cash and
they gladly accepted that. And then to answer your question,
kind of, then you back up, you turn left, there's a glass door.
And of course, I showed my ID wouldn't if you if you have an
ID to swiped and the glass door unlocks you can go in as a
beautifully, like wood and glass modern interior coffee shop wait
and with actually free coffee, a coffee machine because get your
coffee from cappuccino if you wanted it and smoke.
Well, you kind of ignored the question.
No, I didn't. I said you answered a complaint. Oh, the
question.
The real question was you said on a previous show, you can't
use cash. Well,
apparently for buying weed you still can because they have to
sell to foreigners and foreigners don't have the pin
system. So this is one of those.
And I've never said you can you can use cash in certain spots.
And
I've never seen it. You can't use it anywhere. I said they
were phasing it out. Okay, I thought you did. No, I said
they're phasing it out in their shops. There are shops where you
don't vocal fry me.
There. Maybe Maybe that's what that was the trick that mill was
using.
Oh, brother. All right. And let me give you some screw your
list. Do you remember what I said about the lowering of the
speed limit? Yes, it happened? No, yep. The Dutch speed limit
lowered from 130 kilometres an hour to 100. Nationwide, which
is about 62 That's the top speed limit. There's lots of lower
speed limits where you sure where you drive now, there's an
exemption between 7pm and 6am. You still may be able to drive
130 on certain sections. But here's here's how it was
explained. This is very interesting. The prime minister
said in in announcing this ruling. The reason they're doing
this is it will lower the obvious greenhouse deadly gases
that are killing us all. And because there we all
collectively drive slower. We are saving on our carbon budget.
And therefore the building sector can now go back to work
and can they will get their 18,000 permits to start building
over 74,000 homes which we will need because we're expecting a
lot of immigrants to come in. Do you think this pisses some
people off? Wow. Any
have the audacity they tell you they say put this out there as
though it's good news and have
the audacity to add to that if more people start driving
battery cars, we may be able to raise it eventually sometime
kind of maybe. This are out raged. Now this is from the same
party, who are the majority party I think have been in
almost 18 years. I think it was a it was 10 10 years ago, it's
the same party who raised the limit their centre right wing
the VVD. They raise the limit from 100 to 130 Saying it
actually is better to drive faster you get there sooner
therefore your pollute less, but the everyone's forgotten that
apparently. And now it's going to lower everything so that the
construction centre sector can get back to work to build the
almost 100,000 homes because we got a lot of immigrants coming.
Well, I'll tell you, eventually someone is going to get hurt in
this mess. This is nuts. And having lived there in this
country, that speed limit is very important for the Dutch.
It's just it's culturally important thing.
I found that fascinating. Wow. Okay, one more thing on the
list.
And I was looking at Oh, yeah. podcasters union?
Well, I think we were talking about this maybe after the show
that whatever happened to it, did they happen are the
podcasters union in place? Are people benefited benefiting from
this? And I'd love to know, I don't see any more stories about
it.
I don't. I heard the one time was the gimlet that was getting
unionised. I
think it was gimlet. Yeah, I think it was gimlet?
Well, it was gimlet was bought by Spotify. And that's the end
of it.
Yeah, there's no union as far as I know. Thanks. Anything else?
Anything else on your list?
No, that was the only two items on the list was surprisingly.
JOHN CENA vorak Bakelite. Hi, today's Teddy K. He's an OTG
kind of guy.
Yeah, everybody is an OTG kind of guy. Okay. I do have some OTG
stuff to discuss. Because I got answers to the SMS text
messaging issue that I witnessed, and I, I was having
messages not showing up when I was texting the keeper from
overseas. And I think there's I've had more of these issues. I
know for sure, sometimes pictures don't get sent. Which
means I'm just
gonna say, Well, isn't there other rules about when you're
overseas trying to send it to us? It's always a problem.
It shouldn't be it when SMS first came into play, it was
very much a network delivered service from the telco networks,
and it was guaranteed. It was like a guaranteed service with
you couldn't even have receipts. And you know, it was it was
quite a quite a big deal. And it came in with the GSM standard
before it ever was way before it came to the US. And it was it
was quite the quite the revelation. People were using it
because it was cheaper than calling. And then of course, as
I remember that was during the era where people would have two
phones. They'd have one for calling and one for SMS. Oh, I
don't remember that. I never had that. Yeah, it was because of
the rates they would do. Oh, right phone system that SMS
because SMS cost money. Yeah, the SMS was cheap, it was being
subsidised. But the phone calling was expensive on this
one line. And then the other line where the phone was cheap
and SMS was expensive. So it ended with two phones.
Well, this the the answer to the to what's going on here, or the
explanation really comes in my mind close to some claims you've
made, which are sounding very true when you read this. And we
got a number of dudes named Ben, who all requested anonymity
because they work in the sector, so no names, but I picked one of
them out that I think is the middle. They all kind of
basically said the same thing. I recently worked for an SMS
router called open market. They are an absolute mess. Yet they
have millions of messages they deliver. And just so you know
that these routers, there's many of them. And essentially all the
telcos all the phone companies have outsourced this type of
work to these routers, because it's a lot of data here are
doing events continues. This is not that dissimilar to what
email providers do the company charges per message for some
customers but also they have to compete so they will give large
buckets of pricing to some providers. Now this company is
an SMS MMS RCS router for many giant organisations yet they
have recently lost out on a large contract with Amazon.
I love it. Where am I?
But they are that they are the provider for Apple for instance,
which is one of the largest companies they broker they use a
legacy service structure in a data centre and are currently
migrating to a mic arose service architecture, especially the new
RCS service. This is what the what Google is trying to push
everybody to. The most recent technological advancement in
this realm is the use of RCS rich communication services.
It's a protocol between both mobile operators and phones. The
overall aim of RCS is for to eventually replace SMS and MMS.
The reason why these messages do sort of late delivery can be a
multitude of issues is likely due to consumer processes that
fail on the back end to deliver messages from the queue. Many of
these services use Amazon Web Services or rabbit MQ for
queuing. And there are a number of issues with these services.
And this is kind of consistent, what I heard is that they can't
handle the load really, and this is why I mentioned that you've
been seeing this and you believe that Twitter and other companies
that claim algorithms are doing the business that they actually
can't display everything as desired because of just the
workload or the amount of data or it just while you tell me
your suspicions.
Bye noticed this I think the whole shadow banning things a
scam. That is they gladly accept the responsibility of oh, well,
yeah, we we were shadow banning when it's not, they're not doing
anything except they just can't handle the load is too, too much
that Twitter is just overloaded. They can't afford more capacity
because they start losing money. It's a it's a it's a bean
counter thing. I think this is true with just not only them, I
think this was also true. I think this is showing up with
the new Disney services that failed. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they
had a bad launch. And you know, and that's why you have you
know, people that have come up with these other technologies
like, where they use these appliances. And Google does it
with their YouTube but they have a YouTube appliance that said
most ISPs they also a Netflix does and that's why it seems as
though they can handle the load. What else because most of the
load they're not handling is being handled by these by these
other little little systems that have put their best movies for
example, on Netflix you can you go find some really old piece of
crap on Netflix and nobody's watched in a long time. It's not
going to come to you at all. Oh, really, really won't load
strokes off. Okay, yellow spin spin spin. Here it is. Well,
that you watch a first run movie, boom, they're right there
that kind
of puts a new slant on. Something that Instagram is
doing Instagram is now removing likes from posts
Instagram post without likes still worth sharing. That's what
users will find out when the platform starts hiding likes on
some US posts.
The idea is to try and depressurize Instagram make it
less of a competition give people more space to focus on
connecting with people that they love things that inspire them
already tested in seven other countries. Instagram will hide
likes on a limited number of US accounts for now. You will be
able to see the likes but your followers won't. Kim Kardashian,
one of Instagrams biggest influencers with more than 150
million followers is giving the change her stamp of approval as
far as mental health. I mean, it's something that you know, I
think taking the likes away and taking that aspects away from it
would be really beneficial for people that idea he also pushed
other social platforms like Facebook, YouTube and Twitter to
experiment with removing metrics that show how many users like or
see a post to along with the social pressure to rack up
likes. Instagram has also turned iconic places like this down
under the Manhattan Bridge from popular into overrun, often just
for the ground.
Actually don't post as much as I used to just because even the
comments give me anxiety sometimes when
you're so hung up on what people are liking for don't liking
you're kind of forgetting about really, what was Instagram all
about to begin with
Instagrams experiment could soon become a reality for everyone,
like it or not.
So I don't know if that's because they can't handle
displaying the number of likes, they seem to want to display it
for
the well let me stop you before you go on with that thesis
because I think it's quite possibly could be taking a bit
of the load off. And I'll tell you a story is a person that
told me this. And apparently this goes I used to go on all
the time. And most of the CEOs of airlines don't fly their
airlines anymore, but they used to. And this guy was a friend of
mine. And apparently this happened a lot there was a guy
that used to be the CEO of American Airlines, Crawford
Kramer or something like that. He was a very famous CEO is
blowhard. And they he was the guy was talking to what he just
did it first class. He's talking to him. He says, Well, you know,
the food used to be better and this and this guy, the CEO says,
you know, we used to put two olives on this meal. Yeah, and
we only put one olive Vaughn now and that saved us $3 million a
year. No kidding. And you take this one to Indus. And those
little things do add up. And I believe that that scales right
to these, these systems. And so they have to, they have the
little thing, like taking the likes off, probably saves them a
lot of server space, and it saves them some computation. And
I think it probably does take enough. It's like, it's like
taking the olive off.
It's like a bit. It's the all of theory. It's the Oliver theory.
Well, Cardi B, who is an authority when it comes to
Instagram, and she's very successful. She's She has a
she's a lot wealthier than we are. She has some, she posted an
Instagram. She posted something to us Insta story, Insta story
about the likes. And she talks weird but it's she's worth
listening to because she's still approaching this from a mental
health perspective, not the all of theory. But she she makes a
good comment about some other changes that have occurred to
Instagram, which she feels have ruined the product and she is an
expert.
Like a big rock is right now. The likes on Instagram are
getting taken away is like this is my opinion on it. Right? So
from the beginning of Instagram we have and I feel like in the
beginning of Instagram, everything was just so far.
People wanting to post the pictures get likes, it was just
a phase where you can see pictures, and then it started to
become video. Got a little nasty. It just took a weird turn
was when people started to like the comments. When you were the
one who made comment or reply back to somebody comments.
That's when I feel like people started to say nasty things.
Like, people will post news about I don't know,
it's hard to listen to. But she's making a good point that
Instagram used to be just you post a picture and there was a
list of comments underneath. Now, you can comment on comments
and you can like comments and I think that may be more important
important is if you have to display a count I mean shoot
YouTube doesn't even update their counts in real time we
know that so I you know it may just be an all of problem it's
certainly it's certainly very disruptive for and that's in a
way it's like with
by the way I I headed in this I have an Instagram account. I had
one I've had one for since early inception of the service, but
it's not some old phone I've never ever even posted anything
but I go there once a while look at people's pictures or
something along those lines, but I didn't know they were letting
you like comments. Would that storage? I don't know.
I checked it this morning. That so it is possible but yeah, you
can like comments. Alright, another still on OTG NAS we had
a kerfuffle kerfuffle. Now, every every company in Silicon
Valley wants to be your bank. I think we've mentioned this for
several years now, that is always the ultimate. And now we
we know that Google have plans to offer checking accounts, face
bag wants to give you face bag balloons, and everyone wants to
be your bank. And not only that, they want to be your medical
provider and this one of your whole life and you're holding
that in your hands with that stupid smartphone, which you
should throw away. You really and I have some on Sunday, I
have some thoughts for people who want to live the OTG
lifestyle, hiking get into it cost effectively, and how it
will if you have phone addiction, which most of us do,
how it will save you from that. And so I'm working on a little
segment. But the latest kerfuffle was the apple credit
card, which is back office by Goldman Sachs, who by the way
are irked that they didn't get the credit for it. They kind of
happy now I think because well the algos that are determining
credit limits are biassed
Apple calls it simple and secure credit card created by Apple,
not a bank. But Apple and partner Goldman Sachs are now
accused of gender bias software developer and millionaire David
Heinemeier Hansson says he and his wife share assets and
income, but Apple card gave him a credit line 20 times higher
than hers. Even though she has a higher credit score, it seemed
very discriminatory that I would get 20 times the credit limit,
even though our stats were the same. Goldman says a computer
algorithm made the decision when Hanson vented on Twitter and
social media erupted with similar stories. Even the man
who co founded Apple Steve Wozniak says he got 10 times the
credit limit that his wife Janet got
it was so low I could barely via phone or a plane ticket and I
buy all of his plane tickets.
I always think in terms of assets and income, and it's the
same for both of us, and that should determine your credit
worthiness. Goldman Sachs, Apple's financial partner says
gender and marital status are not factors. We look at an
individual's income and an individual's credit worthiness,
which includes factors like personal credit scores, how much
debt you have, and how that debt has been managed. Consumer
Advocates say algorithm bias is nothing new.
We've seen it in housing, we've seen it in hiring, we've seen it
in health care
tonight, the Wozniak say Goldman Sachs has offered to increase
Janet's limit as New York state regulators look into whether
this credit card algorithm has an illegal gender bias. First of
all, I find it very sad that people are actually angry about
how much in debt they can go, I just find it incredibly sad. I
mean, get it get a debit card, if you want no limit if you've
got the money, but okay, or get an American Express card or it's
just you know, arguing, Oh, I'm so great. I can go up to
$100,000 in debt. Okie dokie. Good on you. Of course, if you
really want to know what's going on, if you want the true answers
in technology, we all know there's only one queen, it's got
to be Kara Swisher who can tell us what's really going on.
It also really kind of speaks to the fact that, yes, an algorithm
involves computers that involves machines, but there still has to
be a human being. That's right, basically inputting the code and
how that speaks to what could perhaps, perhaps be inherent
biases, or even just mistakes or unintended consequences?
Well, I don't know if it's unintended consequences, these
are programmed by people. And of course, as you know, diversity
in the tech ranks are pretty low. And so it's not the
question that that people try to is that the way these algorithms
are designed as they're not as thought out as they should be?
Everyone assumes the black box in the machine decides
everything, but whenever you put in, comes out of it. And so in
this case, you know, we what's what's really the problem is
there's so many good examples and bad outcomes here. And they
only grow as time goes on. And I think it should be extended out
for lots of things. It's this idea that algorithms rule us.
And as we get into quantum computing and everything else,
we tend to rely on the decisions of these technologies that were
created by people, and largely by men and largely by white men.
And so it's just the thing we have to think about is how these
algorithms fall into place and how much
so I call such bullcrap. And what she just said, I guarantee
you it's brown and yellow men writing these algorithms. It's
not white men, mostly Indians. That's what I'm saying. Brown
men, but no, it's white men, men and their white. It's all their
fault. That was shameful. Yeah, it's just she should have her
card pulled. And there's plenty of women
coding this stuff, too. So she's full of crap. Most of the white
guys are the bosses. Hello.
Isn't she a white dude? I mean, come on. Kara. Get it together.
All right, one last one. Last one.
Either way. I missed this.
One last one just to make you throw up in your mouth a little
bit. This is a a fabulous little NPR segment they did on on this
great Smart Home neighbourhood which Amazon is sponsoring. It's
the future John. It's great. It's going to be fabulous.
Brittany's to Vatche works for Linaro, one of the nation's
largest home builders, and she's been making the same sales pitch
over and over to potential homebuyers in this Seattle
suburb. control everything from your window blinds to your door
locks using just your voice the front doors locked, adjust the
mood lighting or tell Roomba to clean up. Call up the feed from
one of the countless video cameras on the smart television.
Alexa, show me the backyard. Okay, now we can spy on
whoever's having a drink on the back patio.
Cameras and convenience. That's the pitch. Drew Holmes wasn't
looking for a smart home when he shopped for a house here. But
the technologies came with the house. Now I like would not live
without him. His favourite feature is a ring doorbell that
logs visitors have a
teenager. It's nice to confirm when they come home. And I have
a proof of it as
one time Holmes was away on a business trip and his
stepdaughter forgot her key and couldn't get in.
So she just texted me Hey, can you open the door and I opened
the door from Oregon. And so that was nice from salt.
There are other neighbourhoods like this bubbling up outside
tech savvy cities like Miami and Denver. And I should mention,
Amazon is an NPR sponsor. In this neighbourhood. Alexa is in
every reading. She adjust the thermostat and reports on
people's commutes when they roll out of bed and she's getting
better at it because she's watching and learning what
people need. Dave garland technology will take off once
people try it. He's with some Second Century ventures an
investment arm of the National Association of Realtors.
There's a new narrative when it comes to what home means.
It means a personalised environment where technology
responds to your every need. Maybe it means giving up some
privacy. These families are trying out that compromise. 15
year old Macy Ferguson says she likes it. She uses Alexa alarms
when for cheerleading practice and one for homework to help her
manage her busy life.
I just feel really fancy because I feel like it's just my little
like servant or Butler.
I don't. Slave slave. Kelly,
vicious. If I'm walking on our street, I walk on the other side
of the street beside without the smart homes just because I don't
feel like being on everyone's cameras. And that's something
we'll all have to learn how to navigate if this technology
becomes standard in more neighbourhoods
can't wait NPR thanks for that wonderful report with your
Amazon sponsor. Discuss Gosh, this guy No, it's disgusting.
It's
it's just 1984 stuff. Yeah,
and we're happily purchasing it. Well, we're
not no but assembling yet large public and most people are all
at their Judy. They're all Judy
with it. And you know, it's it won't end well. Especially in
the who?
I'm sorry, continue, I would say well, I was gonna see what
it won't add in. Well, especially I forgot what I was
gonna say. He says not going to end well. I was gonna say
something else. Oh, especially when they cut your power off was
what I was gonna say. Which
happens a lot now. It was bitching about and then they had
a whole special I didn't clip it, of course. But it's like I
can tell you that. It's like I'm a fisherman and you know, I cut
this huge fish.
The one that got away. That's alright, that's alright,
so this clip this was a clip about the how that all the cell
towers were cut off along with the rest of the power and nobody
can even communicate.
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until Sunday, adios mofos and such Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill
himself
flying over Afghanistan oh maybe it was Pakistan. I promised
myself to aim myself that angry woman child and man that was on
my list. I don't care if I missed I remote controlling I do
what I'm told by someone come you know Obama gave me a bush
more than Bush and I cost millions were supposed to target
terrorists but not so much civilians. I don't know why to
say some got in my way. A drone again. Naturally a drone again
naturally in the morning SpaceForce
Gosh, you see that juice in her head is gone. That's true.
Adios, OPPO Whoa, no Jay
king now y'all. Can we just get real Do we really care about our
fans or is this just another deal? Said another way that we
lost our way. socials about the people remember we are people do
we really need another like fan or share we need another post to
show up everywhere. I hope as we scattered that we never forget
that our posts live forever even when we go to bed give it up
Mary McCoy MoPhO boruch.org/in A
hot liquid I was soaked