John C. Dvorak: Oh new phone. Let's unbox it.
Unknown: Adam curry, John C Devorah.
Adam Curry: There's October 17 2019. This is your award winning
give nation media assassination episode 1182. This is no agenda.
We haven't planned broadcasting live from opportunity zone 33 in
the frontier of Boston Tejas capital, the drone Star State in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where
he's proven himself to be a lizard by telling people to eat
lunch. That's the Pope. I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: Well, now we have two things to start with.
John C. Dvorak: Actually, we have a whole slew of things to
start with. I have a list. Cummins died. Yes, that's a poem
was this to eat bugs? Felicity Hoffman's, oh, is his sentence
is going to be cut.
Adam Curry: And we have a Do we have a deal?
John C. Dvorak: If you ever have a deal? Oh, by the way, Jordan
Peterson movie came out too much controversy. And the guy who
wrote the book about Sandy Hook being a hoax got sued and lost.
And so I go to CNN to check these stories out. And of
course, what do I get there? Giuliani and Trump's
Adam Curry: they have a deal min. V have a deal.
John C. Dvorak: It was I saw I saw the same announcement
apparently. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, let's listen to it for the benefit of
everybody
Unknown: we have a new deal means that there was no need for
any kind of prolongation. And this is a fair and balanced
agreement. It is testament to our commitment to funding
institutions. It provides certainty where Brexit creates
uncertainty.
Adam Curry: I love I love how Juncker is now also kind of
doing this Anglicism this Brexit
John C. Dvorak: Juncker, yes. Juncker Brexit, which is the one
I had was, was the other guy, the negotiator.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, this is the this is Boris and Juncker
together, if you put
Unknown: out of all citizens, and people text peace and
stability on the island of Ireland will be no the border on
the island of Ireland, and the single market will be protected.
The deal is not about us. The deal is about peace, and peace.
And to continue my conversations with Boris, Boris will start the
negotiations on the future relations immediately after the
deal will have been approved. We'll start our debates on the
first of November without the interruption. And of course,
it's for both our Parliament's to have the final say. It's not
only Westminster having to approve the deal. The deal being
in fact the tweepi it's also up to the European Parliament to do
the same. So thank you, Boris. I have to say excellent
relationship.
Adam Curry: So as it turns out, after all, it was just about the
the backstop deal apparently or I think as I heard Juncker say
the island of Ireland. Okay. Here is Boris Johnson's little
statement.
Unknown: Thank you Joe crowed. And can I particularly tribute
to you, John quote, and also, of course to Michel Barnier, and
all your team, Michelle in the negotiating team in the in the
commission. And I do think that this deal represents a very good
deal both for the EU and for the UK. And it's a reasonable fair
outcome, and reflects the large amount of work that's been
undertaken by by both sides. And I agree very much, John Claude,
with what you said, about protecting the peace process in
the island of Ireland and in Northern Ireland. And, of
course, for us in the UK, it means that we can deliver a real
Brexit that achieves our objectives and it means that the
UK leaves whole and entire on October the 31st. At first, and
it means that Northern Ireland and every other part of the UK
can take part, not just in free trade deals, offering our
tariffs exporting our goods around the world. But it also
means that we can take together as a single a United Kingdom,
decisions about our future about our laws, borders, our money and
how we want to run the UK.
Adam Curry: Well well, so they still all have to vote on it the
UK Parliament and the EU Parliament and we shall see if
that if that actually happens. What was kind of fun. This was
the end of The press briefing and so Boris ended it but
apparently King John clouds still had something to say
listen to this elitist douchebag
Unknown: and we look forward to working with you in building
that partnership in the weeks and months to come. Thank you
all very much
Adam Curry: he addresses the press and they call Trump a
moron
I have chocolate for mafia groups
Unknown: I have I'm happy about the deal about Brexit. Have a
good time.
John C. Dvorak: Brother as you get the last word well I
listened to I was Bernie's the one I yeah, he's the EU
negotiator that I listened to describe what it was and it's it
seems acceptable except for the fine print that they don't
discuss. Who knows what else is in there?
Adam Curry: We have no idea what's in there? Of course not.
And that doesn't matter because UK Parliament I'm sure will just
delay it. Oh, no, this is no good. It's already been
resolved. This is worse than Mays deal.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's, that's probably right. This
probably is probably true, worst and Mays deal exactly what
you're doing here. Somehow it's worse.
Adam Curry: What I always find so interesting in this age of
democracy and how everything has to be the rule of law and the
people the people decide and, and the majority of people voted
for Clinton, the people, the people, the people. But when it
comes to the United Kingdom, this anachronism of the royal
family just baffles me every time that people look at that
with a straight face and say, oh, yeah, this is just just
ceremonial doesn't really mean much. There was the queen
earlier this week opening up parliament with her $50 million
crown light because she can't wear the full crown anymore
because her head and your neck are snap. So they carry the big
crown around on a red velvet pillow. And she's sitting on her
throne addressing parliament,
John C. Dvorak: members of the House of Commons my government's
priority,
Adam Curry: I love it. My government's priority, not
yours, you sheeple has always
John C. Dvorak: been to secure the United Kingdom's departure
from the European Union on the 31st of October. My government
intends to work towards a shift for the European Union based on
free trade and friendly cooperation. My ministers will
work to implement new regimes for fisheries, Agriculture and
Trade, seizing the opportunities that arise from leaving the
European Union. A new immigration bill, ending free
movement will lay the foundation for a fair, modern and global
immigration system. My government remains committed to
ensuring that resident European citizens who have built their
lives in and contributed so much to the United Kingdom have the
right to remain Oh, right. The bill will include measures that
reinforce this commitment. By law Lords and Members of the
House of Commons. Other measures will be laid before you I pray
that the blessing of Almighty God may rest upon your councils
Adam Curry: Yes, my government, my government, no one ever bats
an eye at that anymore. My government, my lords. Okay, all
right, fine. That's good. Back this fact this Yes.
John C. Dvorak: tos, if you want to ignore it, but there it is.
Adam Curry: So how long or maybe it's already started how long
until the US press starts bitching at Trump about not
immediately saying something nice and fawning about
what's his name? Elijah Cummings.
John C. Dvorak: I think he's already said something nice and
fawning. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I
Adam Curry: won't be enough. Oh, no,
John C. Dvorak: of course not. It wasn't faster.
Adam Curry: Whatever it is. It won't be enough. He was
horrible. He sent him to the grave. I'm waiting for someone
to say that. Yes. Yeah. Oh, absolute wrong. Got it. Wrong.
Neil gave him so much stress sent him to the grave.
John C. Dvorak: Maybe they'll come up with a Trump hit list
the way they did the Clintons.
Adam Curry: So it's going to be interesting, because now I mean,
Elijah Cummings is really throwing a wrench into the
works. You cannot ignore this man. You can not ignore his role
in
it. In the civil rights movement,
this just it can't be ignored. So they'll have to break out
packages do all kinds of stuff. And that takes away from Trump.
Which is a problem or, or as CNN would say, it takes away from
impeachment.
John C. Dvorak: Well, from what I can tell, you're not going to
break away.
Cummings is just got a date at the wrong time. If he wants to
get some attention.
Adam Curry: No, it's going to well, you'll see it's going to
be hard. It's gonna be hard for the because he was also
staunchly. It may be they could just do Pat because of him
yelling at Trump. That would be that would be useful. That could
be you know, I've watched the I think it was two I don't know if
the third ones come out these Project Veritas videos where
they go undercover at CNN and surprise, surprise, CNN is
biassed No.
John C. Dvorak: What? Yeah,
Adam Curry: I mean, holy moly.
But what was nice about it is so we have audio although
completely unusable. Always my complaint about Project Veritas
the audio was so unusable if we don't have the subtitles on the
screen. You really don't know what's being said. So we heard
Jeff Zucker in the Monday meeting saying you know, it's
all about impeachment, keep it on impeachment. We're gonna go
with impeachment. I don't care what the story is impeachment.
But they do follow orders. They're at CNN,
Unknown: the impeachment inquiry. Stay updated. Stay
informed with up to the minute breaking news and analysis.
There's only one place for it all. cnn.com/impeachment Wow.
cnn.com/impeachment
Adam Curry: podcasts breaking news news on every hour
impeachment all the time. Yeah, now they're just they're pushing
man they read they really want to drag it into everybody's head
that Trump is above the law. The the seat feels he's above the
law cannot be above the law has sacrificed our national security
is killing the Kurds. We must impeach we must impeach
John C. Dvorak: no evidence that even when courage has died, by
the way,
Adam Curry: no, no, no. Well, hello.
Yeah, I have a lot on Syria. We don't have to get into it now.
But I are actually maybe we should do this. So yesterday,
there was this flurry of activity all of a sudden and
all. Everything starts lighting up because apparently, Nancy
Pelosi was so insulted. She walked out of the meeting with
Trump. horrible man.
John C. Dvorak: She and she said he melted down and he says she
melted down.
Well, let's listen to the ABA goo. That's got to be
Adam Curry: so right after this event right in front of the
White House. Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Steny Hoyer all come
out and call each other leader all the time. This is a very
interesting, I will talk to leader Schumer, Leader Pelosi
leader Hoyer, then you got your your chosen representatives.
You're not leaders. I'm a little tired of this leader talk. And
everyone's talking about oh, Republicans and their dare dear
leader Trump, the only people using the word leader are
Democrats consistently
Unknown: in Syria, that calls upon the president to urge the
the Turks to exercise restraint for us to have humanitarian
assistance to the some of the Kurds children are being killed
there. And very scary. Some
Adam Curry: of the Kurds children are being killed there.
John, do you not have a report of the Kurdish children being
slaughtered, massacred, killed? Parents children
Unknown: are being killed there. And very, very importantly, and
most importantly, is asked for a clear plan on how we're going to
fight ISIS.
Adam Curry: And as for some context, the only reason Pelosi
and Schumer were meeting with the President was to say, hey,
we just had a very important vote in Congress, in the House
of Representatives. And it's okay. It's not a bill or
anything. It's a resolution, which is kind of an official
document saying, Here's what we think, as if we hadn't heard it
on every news cable news channel. And what they think is
that is a very bad idea that Trump had pulled out the troops.
Or he's pulling them out the no boots on the ground troops we've
had there, apparently, because it's going to kill the Kurds.
And at the very last sentence, indeed, was, well, we'd like to
know what the plan is. So they voted on that. Oh, I'm glad you
took the time to do that.
Unknown: I think that vote, besides the vote, more than two
to one of the Republicans voted to oppose what the president did
probably got to the president, because he was shaken up by it.
And that's why we couldn't continue In the meeting because
he was just not relating to the reality of it. Again, we are
proud of our men and women in uniform. Those who have been in
Syria have conducted themselves in a way that makes us all very
proud. And I conveyed that to the Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs. We had some questions about ISIS and I'm going to
defer to distinguished leader from New York welfare. Who
focused on ISIS in the meeting,
Adam Curry: leader, hash Schumer, their leader, he will
talk to us about that.
Unknown: Yeah, thank you, speaker, leader and cue leader
Hoyer leader. I told the President that being from New
York as he was, we're particularly aware of the
problems, the terrorism, that an organisation like ISIS can
create.
Adam Curry: See now now this is the next push in the impeachment
crescendo is to now say that the President is in effect bringing
ISIS back to America.
Unknown: And the fact that someone no less than General
Mattis has said that ISIS has been enhanced, that the danger
of ISIS is so much greater worries all of us. I asked the
President what his plan was to contain ISIS. He didn't really
have one. He said the Turks and the Syrians will guard the ISIS
prisoners. I said, Is there any intelligence evidence that the
Turks in the Syrians will have the same interest that the Kurds
are we did in guarding ISIS? And the secretary of defence was
was, thank God, he was honest. He said, We don't have that
evidence. And so I said, then how can we think that this is a
plan when there are Syrians and Turks who are not our friends?
Who ISIS, if they escaped, does them very little harm? How can
we let this happen? They didn't have any good answers. This is
appalling. The President had no plan, no real plan for
containing ISIS, other than relying on the Syrians in the
Turks, then why did we spend a decade billions of dollars and
lost lives and trying to curtail ISIS, if on a phone call on a
whim? The President is going to undo all of that, and turn this
over to the Turks and the Syrians.
Adam Curry: I'll tell you why we spent 10 years doing that,
because we were told that Assad, the horrible dictator was
killing his own people, gassing women and children. Now all of a
sudden, it's about ISIS and they might come to America. We will
follow them to the gate ISIS. Course, our only mission there
was to train the YPG, PKK, whatever you want to call them
today. And these ISIS prisoners. They have European passports. So
where are they going to go? If they escaped? They're going to
go to Europe? I don't think there'll be going to the United
States
John C. Dvorak: very few that what there's one or two
Americans in there. And that's what we had that clip of one of
our CBS correspondents to having a discussion with the American
and he felt he was fine going back to Europe, terrorists.
Here's, here's the there's a blogger. I don't know if this
how this is gonna sound. But she's one of those bloggers who
she's been around. She's one of those bloggers who, you know,
looks for a bucket to throw a mic into and in the fears it's
good sound. This is Syrian girl. And she has some interesting
points to make about and she's a bit she could be just a spook.
Yeah, she has some points, but it's good to listen to her
watch. But here's some her points about the Kurds.
Adam Curry: You were allied into believing that the Kurds were
fighting for a national liberation. The truth is that
the reason Kurds don't have a country is because they were
nomadic until World War One. They never settled in one place
and built cities. The land that they moved into was already
inhabited by some of the oldest civilizations in the world.
Anatolians Assyrians, armenians and assyrians, they wanted to
build a state at the expense of these indigenous people. Yet
another lie you were being told is that serious Christians want
the US to say to help them stay safe from Turkey. No, the Syrian
Christians are saying they want the US out and the Syrian army
in the truth is this Syrian Christians were all Ready being
ethnically cleansed by the Kurdish militias, alongside
other minorities. They've been shutting down their schools
forcibly disarming their militias. Syrian Christian
fighters have been assassinated. Because Kurds are not in a
majority in the areas that they want to control. They wanted to
push out other minorities in order to become a majority. What
is right is that every part of Syria belongs to every Syrian no
matter their ethnicity or religion. The Assyrian
Christians say that the Syrian army are the only people they
can trust to ensure this
the White House released this video of video this letter that
he sent to air Dhawan and in it he says, By the way, you know
the what's the guy's name? The general mass loom watch actually
general Mazloum Kobani ID and in April Muslim was already saying
hey, you know the We Can Do This You know, it's alright, we're
good. We're gonna we're gonna find your own plan here with the
turkey in April. So this has been going on for a while and
these comments certainly at least international people have
been aware that these this idea has been out there for a while.
I mean, I missed it. I went in after the president's notes said
look at the general agrees with the with you guys working
something out. I went back and looked at this has been going on
for a while. Oh, of course. We don't get much of that because
news.
John C. Dvorak: No, we knew when they have to discuss it. They
gin it up with like that Kentucky film, which was just an
embarrassing, in fact, Trump bitched about it directly to
Adam Curry: Kentucky film with Kentucky film,
John C. Dvorak: the Kentucky gun show.
Adam Curry: Oh, the ABC fake video.
John C. Dvorak: And by the way, everyone who's seen this says
geez, we got to go to this this event.
Adam Curry: Tracer fire at night.
John C. Dvorak: It's unbelievable. It's quite quite
exciting. But here's Trump calling out ABC on Syria. Oh,
hold
Adam Curry: on. Okay. Oops. Even after
Unknown: all, you have seen others freed all the
humanitarian disaster, you don't have any regret forgiving or
Diwan the green light to invade. I didn't give him a green light.
Well, did you tell him as you just you know, when you make a
statement like that is so deceptive, just the opposite of
a green light. First of all, we had virtually no soldiers that
were mostly God, just a tiny little group. And they would
have been in harm's way you have a massive army on the other side
of the border. But more importantly, I didn't give them
a green light. And if anybody saw the letter, which can be
released very easily, if you'd like I could certainly release
it. But I wrote a letter right after that conversation, very
powerful letter that has never given a green light. They've
been wanting to do that for years. And frankly, they've been
fighting for many, many years. And when you ask a question like
that, it's very deceptive. John, it's almost as deceptive as you
showing all of the bombings taking place in Syria. And it
turned out that the bombing that you showed on television took
place in Kentucky. So you know, and I'm not even sure that ABC
apologise for that. But certainly, it was a terrible
thing. I'm looking at this. I've said, Well, that's pretty bad.
And it was in Kentucky. It wasn't in Syria. So I don't know
what you're going to do about that. But I think ABC owes an
apology. And blow me.
John C. Dvorak: You know, I couldn't find an apology either.
Adam Curry: I there was a tweet that you know about a mistake
and has been corrected. But there wasn't really an apology
for, you know, clearly, very poor reporting. Let me go back
to
John C. Dvorak: deceptive, it was beyond for reporting.
Adam Curry: And go back to the post meltdown meeting here is to
whine this up Pelosi, I'm sorry, Leader Pelosi.
Unknown: I would also say one other thing.
Adam Curry: He was wait, maybe it's Oh, no. This is Schumer
saying how incredibly rude. The President was was just horrible.
I
Unknown: would also say one other thing. He was insulting,
particularly to the speaker. She kept her cool completely. But he
called her a third rate politician. He said that the
there are communists involved and you guys might like that. I
mean, this was not a dialogue. It was sort of a diatribe. A
nasty diatribe not focused on the facts. Particularly the fact
of how to curtail ISIS, a terrorist organisation that aims
to hurt the United States. In our
Adam Curry: homeland. Yes, they're coming. They're coming
lander every bush and it's so interesting. That and I believe
he said it I'm sure he said you're a third rate politician
Nancy, and maybe you'd love them. as ISIS guys some of them
are communist. I mean I don't know if it quite weighs up
against your rapist a criminal you put the country in harm's
way You're a traitor you're treasonous it's almost the same
thing
Unknown: Not quite.
John C. Dvorak: I should look in the mirror these folk
Adam Curry: but there's there's a little bit of a conspiracy
theory out there if you don't mind just for one second just
pop on the glasses.
Did you get your cube cube glasses on?
John C. Dvorak: No, I didn't. I can't find them.
Adam Curry: Tell me when you're ready. And then we'll put them
on
John C. Dvorak: hold on a second. They're probably under
this pile like
Adam Curry: mine are already on
John C. Dvorak: pretty colours. This system? No, Hillary I got
him here there.
Adam Curry: All right, perfect. There is a conspiracy theory
that Nancy Pelosi sent out the bat signal for harm to come to
the 45th President of the United States. And she did this with
some very clear signalling during one of her many
appearances yesterday regarding the bracelet
Unknown: to me it was a small bill in terms of guns again as I
said to some of you earlier this is a bullet I was in Florida for
was all over the country but when I was in Florida, I
received this from Federico Wilson my colleague it's a
bracelets are made with bullets and the colour orange which is
the colour of gun violence protection this A told the
president we're not going away. A bracelet made of bullets in
the colour orange. Okay,
John C. Dvorak: that's code o r
Adam Curry: n Hello?
John C. Dvorak: Ah, Orange Man bad. Yes,
Adam Curry: exactly. Orange Man bad a bracelet made of bullets.
John C. Dvorak: That's a good conspiracy theory out of the
blue. Yeah. Well, it
Adam Curry: came from you know, queue is gone. I guess after
eight Chan was taken down. And I don't know. There's lots of
queues popping up. But I liked that I liked. I thought this one
was pretty good. You go Nance, and since when did orange who
chose orange is the colour of gun violence? Who makes these
colour? Code? Yeah, it has to be never heard. This has to be
code.
Never heard this. I have seen. I have two more clips about Syria
and Turkey. The first is
Stephen cook. He's from the Council on Foreign Relations
short clip. But I think it's kind of interesting. When
President Erdogan sees you know, Russian soldiers doing selfies
in a previous US base, what does he make of that? Well,
Unknown: it's clear that the Russians have now positioned
themselves as a force for stability of all things in the
region. The Russians want to put themselves in between Turkish
forces and Syrian regime forces to ensure that there is no fight
there. The Russians are going to play every end of the stick here
to their advantage. Now, everyone has no Washington to go
back to for leverage with the Russians. The Russians can play
him like a fiddle. Stephen Cook, thank you so much for being with
Adam Curry: us. Sounds like the plan is working. Of course, the
Russians are going to come in I have not heard anything on
MSNBC, CNN or Fox, about the Russians and their deepwater
port in Syria. You know, this is this is part of what forever
it's part of why all of this started it been
John C. Dvorak: a long term. ally with each other. Yeah. So
what's new,
Adam Curry: nothing's new. But they don't they don't talk about
these things.
John C. Dvorak: They have. I get the sense that whoever's
orchestrating all the talking points is get been high, haven't
gotten their act been high.
Adam Curry: Let's put some more talking. I know, Hey, man, Bob
Menendez is going to be on with Cooper. Let's give him some
talking points. You
Unknown: yourself tweeted that listening to the President made
you feel deeply concerned for the country? Can you talk about
what happened in the meeting what you saw? Oh, the meeting?
Well, from the moment the President came in, I would
describe him as belligerent. he smacked down a series of files
on the table and said, Well, you all asked for this meeting, I
reluctantly gave it to you. And Speaker Pelosi said, Well, with
all due respect, Mr. President, we didn't ask for a meeting with
you. We asked for a briefing on the secretaries of defence state
and intelligence to understand the consequences of the actions
you took. And then he said, Well, then let's end the
meeting. And she said, Well, while I'm here as the speaker, I
have an obligation to tell you that the house just voted 350
some odd. Two, I forget exactly what the amount was, but it was
an overwhelming bipartisan vote to disapprove the actions that
you took in Syria. And then he got that debt evolved into
that's nothing but a hit job and the Republicans and she said,
well, many Republicans joined us. And then he called Speaker
Pelosi, a third rate politician. He said that the Kurds were
nothing but communists and Democrat, all of us Democrats
who were seated there must be happy with that, you know,
suggesting that we all subscribe to that view of being communist.
And then, you know, it just, it was belligerent, and, and
something I have never seen in 27 years here in Congress, and
serving under four different presidents. I've never seen a
moment like this.
John C. Dvorak: That's not how these meetings usually go. No,
Unknown: not that other presidents and presidents, from
Clinton, to Bush to Obama, and now Trump, I was in the White
House with President Bush and he was president. We might have
disagreements, but what it was never disagreeable. And always
it was respectful and there was exchanges of views.
Adam Curry: So there's no reporting. This is silly. This
is stupid. It's a big show rod. And Nancy stormed out because he
called her a third rate politician. And it's all just a
part of the as I said earlier, the crescendo the culmination to
get public support for Orange Man bad impeachment good. And
it, they'll they'll probably get there. They keep pushing in
December, I think that they'll be able to
John C. Dvorak: get their pipe painted themselves into a corner
there. I don't know what why they're taking so long.
Adam Curry: Because she doesn't have the votes. I mean, of
course, a tonne of Republicans
John C. Dvorak: who say they have the votes. It looks like
they have the votes they get the votes and
Adam Curry: get now to get
Republicans or they will not they will not do that. Not in
the house. Not in the Senate. A couple Sure.
John C. Dvorak: The senators i I'm with you on the Senate, but
the house, they've got the votes. Well, I'm not so sure
they do. I'm convinced of it. The Senate No, well, it doesn't
matter do a secret ballot.
Adam Curry: But let's just do it. You know, all these
subpoenas, and it's all this, all these lies this this. And
this is a true conspiracy. To all we're subpoenaing everybody
in the Trump is obstructed the trump the Trump is obstructing
his new name, the Trump is obstructing by not letting
people adhere to the subpoenas. But these are not the it may say
subpoena but it's not an official subpoena. If you don't
get that until you take the impeachment vote, then you have
subpoena power. You can't just say it's just a lie. There's no
subpoenas that are legally enforceable. They're just
calling it a subpoena. They might even write subpoena on the
envelope. But until you have the vote, you can't do you can't
issue subpoenas for impeachment. So something has to happen and
it looks like this was you know, they're gonna try again, I think
Elijah Cummings messed it up. Unless they can spin it into you
know, Trump killed him, which I think you can make the case
well, they're
John C. Dvorak: gonna have a hard time making that case
because it that's going to detract from their, you know,
they're trying to focus for a change. I mean, if we go over
the Trump rotation Trump rotation.com for anyone out
there as it looked at it, and you look at the laundry list,
they can't seem to focus on anything to get this guy right.
So they they're This is the hardest they this is the most
effort they've ever put into any one thing and now the coming
thing is,
Adam Curry: you know, Oh, damn you Cummings.
John C. Dvorak: It didn't it's not helping. It's like spray and
pray. I don't know if you want to make that a jumping off point
for the debates because they haven't impeach medley
Adam Curry: Okay, did you make this impeach medley?
John C. Dvorak: No, I did not. I stole this.
Adam Curry: What's it? What's it titled?
John C. Dvorak: Debate? Just I get all these debates. Oh,
Adam Curry: let's do some debates, though. I watched. And
John C. Dvorak: let's talk about that law there. Before we do
that, then we can go over some pre clip research, which I did.
Okay. offhanded research is not the kind of thing. We should be
doing this more often. But I did it this time. I download the
entire transcript and look for keywords. How about
Adam Curry: the word look at
John C. Dvorak: 64 times,
Adam Curry: and I was flat. Everybody was doing it? Look,
look. It's so stupid. Because I really I thought about this. If
one person had said listen, that would have been so effective.
John C. Dvorak: knows it 64 times somebody said look at It
was every all of them. I couldn't really pin it on
anyone. Right is another one, including all right was 87 Oh my
right, right. Right. Right. So you can have 87 of those. You
have? Oh, curiously, there was only four facts of the matters.
Adam Curry: But they were all from Bernie and Joe. All from
Joe. All from Joe.
John C. Dvorak: No, Bernie. Yeah, this is good. There was
also a, here's the deal three times, you know, exactly what
Trump was referenced at four times in with corruption 15
times.
Adam Curry: But at the end of the day, that was in there a
couple of times. I
John C. Dvorak: didn't look up into the day, I did look up
impeachment, which was 43. I've also got, you know, which I
thought was very distressing. Because this is kind of like,
you know, street talk from athletes in the 70s. You know,
no, no, you know, you know, you know, right, and who was looked
at 34 times, mostly who was the offender,
Adam Curry: Lauren? Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Four of the formed, you know, what, Warren
Booker and Klobuchar and Sanders all said, you know, what, know
what, you know, it's like, you know, what, you know, what,
like, quinoa was, you know, what, yeah, what's
Adam Curry: wrong with that? You
John C. Dvorak: know, what, and the other one was, guess what,
which is another thing a 12 year old says, Guess what? Guess
what? Guess what? And guess what? That's wrong. Biden,
three, Klobuchar, one on that one. Another one that you can
get, you should be able to guess who's the big offender for this?
Adam Curry: So Warren?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, now it says so. But she also says, so
look, three times total. So here's one of her quotes. So
look, I want to get what works done.
Adam Curry: That's leader talk right there, buddy. Hi. So I
want to get two
John C. Dvorak: words for the whole debate with 32,000, which
is a very small book. Climate change was mentioned three
times. billion and billionaires was mentioned 26 times Sure,
Adam Curry: by Warren, mainly by Warren.
John C. Dvorak: Actually, it was mostly by Bernie,
Adam Curry: you know, what really is so odd as I was
thinking about this this morning. I mean, obviously, we
live in America, and this is a WWE format. It's completely like
wrestling. But if the
John C. Dvorak: age match,
Adam Curry: yeah, I mean, we're this campaign, everything is
running up to a foot more than of course, we're still a full
year ahead of the election. There's plenty of time. And it
can be on C span, that would be an idea. You could have every
single one of these candidates debate each other in an hour
long, actual debate format, mano a mano one on one, and anyone
who's interested could go see it. And mainstream media could
still pull clips from it and do little sound bites. That's what
we should be demanding. Let's have an actual debate. This is
not a debate. This is insulting to anyone's intelligence, who is
actually interested in what these people have to say. And
there's no reason why we wouldn't be able to do that. Why
that? Well, and it's not the media's fault. It's the DNC, the
Democratic National Committee, they are they on purpose? They
don't want that to happen. In fact, it was someone mentioned,
I think it might have been was a Tulsi. And I don't know, I can't
remember if it was on the debate or not. But someone said, Hey,
I'd really like the league of women voters to come in and,
and, and take a hold of these debates. This was Tulsi. But she
was on an interview somewhere. I said, and you know, I've asked
the league of women voters to take over the televised, I know,
they left out of disgust. They left they they were the ones
that set it up. And then once it became this mainstream, the only
two parties get to do a debate. The league of women voters said
see you and they left and it's been it's me. This is so
insulting. It's just insulting what they're doing. And it's not
even good television anymore. Well, no, it's not that's the
most insulting part to me. Let's go to
John C. Dvorak: the impeach medley just a pretty long,
Adam Curry: it's all right. We'll take a listen. Two years
ago,
Unknown: I started the need to impeach movement, because I knew
there was something desperately wrong at 1600 Pennsylvania
Avenue.
impeachment is the way that we establish that this man will not
be permitted to break the law over and over without
consequences.
John C. Dvorak: Our framers imagined this moment, a moment
where we would have a corrupt President and our framers Stan
rightly designed our system of democracy to say there will be
checks and balances. This is one of those moments
Adam Curry: I support impeachment. But we shouldn't
have any illusions that impeaching Donald Trump will one
be successful or to erase the problems that got him elected in
2016.
Unknown: We have to impeach this President and majority of
Americans not only support impeachment, they support
removal, he should be removed.
The President has left the Congress with no choice. And
this is not just about holding the President accountable for
not just the things emerging in these investigations, but
actions that he has confessed to on television.
It is absolutely imperative to go forward with impeachment. I
hope that he is impeached. But I think what would be a disaster
if the American people believed that all we were doing is taken
on Trump, I swore an oath to do my job as a senator do my duty.
This President has violated his I will do my
if the House votes to impeach the Senate, does not vote to
remove Donald Trump, he walks out and he feels exonerated,
further deepening the divides in this country that we cannot
afford. We do
not hold them to account if there is not justice. Not only
have we failed this moment, our constitution in our country, we
have failed everyone who has sacrificed and lay their lives
down on the line. And they cannot
do that. I said from beginning that if in fact, Trump continued
to Stonewall what the Congress is entitled to know about his
background, what he did all the accusations in the Muller
report, if they did that, they would have no choice, no choice
but to begin an impeachment proceeding. I would like
Adam Curry: to hear from him about how coddling up to
Vladimir Putin makes America great again. He says it make
America great again, it makes Russia great. Again,
Unknown: this isn't about Donald Trump, but understand. It's
about the next president and the next president and the next
president and the future of this country,
Adam Curry: because a president 10 years or 100 years from now
will look back at this moment and draw the conclusion either
that no one is above the law, or that a president can get away
with anything.
By the way, overnight, ratings are in new low for debate
ratings. The previous debate, which was that was that ABC, I
believe? Maybe Yeah, they had 10 point 7 million viewers, CNN. 8
million viewers, so they can see
John C. Dvorak: more than I thought they'd get.
Unknown: Well,
Adam Curry: it doesn't really matter. It was a bad product.
It's just a bad product. Give me one flag to now starting to
notice this stuff. And ever since you turned me on to it.
Not a single Stars and Stripes anywhere. They don't have to.
But it just kind of seemed if you're going to dress it up as
something Merica then you should do something
Unknown: about it. It's just me. All right.
John C. Dvorak: I got a good one here. I mean, I have a whole
bunch of
Adam Curry: I have a couple and you know, just some some
lighthearted ones. So I can intersperse that if you've got
some things that you want.
John C. Dvorak: I have a couple that come by let me go into the
strongest ones. Well, actually, this isn't a Tulsi with her long
pause before she decides to people putting on this debate is
CNN and the New York Times. Yeah. So Tulsi decides to slam
them for good reason. And I'm surprised she should have asked
for an apology on the spot. But let's
Adam Curry: just go back for a second the television portion.
Erin Burnett, who looks it looks much better than she did say a
year ago. So she's she's she's cleaned up and she's looking
good. But she's sitting and it was almost like an optical
illusion. The way the camera shot was set up when they
introduce her and Anderson and the New York Times guy. She
looks bigger than both of them put together. It was it was
really it was very unfriendly for her. It was like, Holy crap.
Look at these two little miniscule dudes sitting next to
her.
John C. Dvorak: She's a big woman. Well, I don't think she
is. But they know she's not. She's not.
Adam Curry: They made her look that way. It was nasty. So yeah,
so CNN. And of course, you've got the New York Times got Eric,
was that his name? Eric.
John C. Dvorak: I don't know. Who was that guy. He was the
most. He was just kind of a dud.
Adam Curry: He's a drip. He's a drone. Oh, he's a drip, drip,
drip, drip. So tell us he's gonna slam them here.
John C. Dvorak: Last week, you said that American troops should
get out of Syria. Now you don't agree with how the president
handled the withdrawal? What would you have done differently?
How would you have pulled out troops without the bloodshed
we're seeing now?
Unknown: Oh, first of all, we've got to understand the reality of
the situation there, which is that the slaughter of the Kurds
being done by Turkey is yet another negative consequence of
the regime change war that we've been waging in Syria. Donald
Trump has the blood of the Kurds on his hand. But so do many of
the politicians in our country from both parties who have
supported this ongoing regime change war in Syria that started
in 2000. and 11, along with many in the mainstream media who have
been championing and cheerleading, this regime change
war. Not only that, but New York Times and CNN have also smeared
veterans like myself for calling for an end to this regime change
war. Just two days ago, the New York Times put out a an article
saying that I'm a Russian asset and an Assad apologist, and all
these different smears this morning, a CNN commentator said
on national television, that I'm an asset of Russia, completely
despicable. As President, I will end these regime change wars by
doing two things, ending the draconian sanctions that are
really a modern day siege, the likes of which we are seeing
Saudi Arabia, waged against Yemen that have caused 10s and
1000s of Syrian civilians to die and to starve. And I would make
sure that we stop supporting terrorists like al Qaeda in
Syria, who have been the ground force in this ongoing regime
change war. I'd like to ask Senator Warren, if she would
join me in calling for an end to this regime change war in Syria
finally.
So I think that we ought to get out of the Middle East. I don't
think we should have troops in the Middle East. But we have to
do it the right way. The smart way.
Adam Curry: It was interesting. A couple of different candidates
tried this. I want okay, I want you to say, is this a new trick?
By the way? I want you to sign up with me for this. Will you
admit to this? I mean, I'm even getting people on Twitter doing
this. So Adam curry, wouldn't you agree that
block? Get out of my feed? It's kind
John C. Dvorak: of the lit Lindsey Graham approach to
asking questions. That's the wouldn't you agree that that's
the way he starts his question with Yeah,
Adam Curry: I was insulted, insulted by Andrew Yang. Oh, you
have a clip. But we
also have to be realistic, that competition doesn't solve all
the problems. It's not like any of us wants to use the fourth
best navigation app. There's a reason why no one is using Bing
today. Sorry, Microsoft is
John C. Dvorak: being at that dance. And that just being
Adam Curry: very insulting. We love the beings, we use Bing, I
could not believe we're not nobody. There's a reason why
nobody uses Bing that be us. But he went on to say something I
agree with him to a degree. And it's about breaking up big tech,
because this would that's where this all came from Elizabeth
Warren is all about break him up or break up the big
tech. So it's not like breaking up these big tech companies will
revive main street businesses around the country. And as the
parent of two young children, I'm particularly concerned about
screen use and its effect on our children. Studies clearly show
that we're seeing record levels of anxiety and depression,
coincident with smartphone adoption, and social media use
breaking up the tech companies, there's nothing to make our kids
healthier. What we have to do is we have to hone in on the
specific problems we're trying to solve and use 21st century
solutions for 21st century problems, using a 20th century
antitrust framework will not work. Now.
While I agree with him that using antitrust will not work.
He puts the blame on the phone somehow. And I would say the
following. You don't need to break up big tech. You need to
break up with big tech. This is not like television, where you
can only get so many channels and this new unlimited resource
this is the internet anybody can post anything they want anywhere
doesn't have to be on Twitter. Now unless you have some ego
issue where you need to have your voice heard consistently
and liked etcetera. Break up with big tech don't break up big
tech. This guy also has no plans. What a fool.
A fool just a fool not
John C. Dvorak: people love that guy. Yeah, well,
Adam Curry: I'm not so in love with him.
John C. Dvorak: I was looking at I have a couple of clips here
that I want to follow do a little deeper dive on. First of
all, they would I looked at all the fact check fact check. They
have all these fact check files. And they have these going live
and they the stuff that they fact check was they miss we
looked at the obvious ones that needed to be fact checked. But
in fact, they didn't. They did no fact checking. They just saw
a few things. If they did if the guy wasn't slamming Trump
correctly, right. Then they'd fact check in fact that the last
total Tulsi clip there was a huge mistake she made in there.
Do you remember what it was? No. It's pretty it was obvious to me
when she said it. She said that the battle that blowing maiming,
killing and fighting in Yemen has resulted in all these Syrian
deaths. Yeah, no,
Adam Curry: I I did hear that. And that was a that was just a
complete faux pa Yeah, it was a football.
Yeah, they should affect how they fact check fact check fact
check false.
John C. Dvorak: So let's listen to a couple of things here.
Let's listen to this one. This is Biden, this debate Biden on
George Washington. Okay,
Unknown: my son's True statement speaks for itself. What I think
is important is we focus on why it's so important to remove this
man from office on the 17th. Look, the fact that George
Washington was worried on the first time he spoke after being
elected President, that what we had to worry about is foreign
interference in our elections, it was the greatest threat to
America. This president on three occasions, three occasions, has
invited foreign governments and heads of government to get
engaged in trying to alter our elections.
Adam Curry: And this is why you sent me a link to drop into the
show notes.
John C. Dvorak: Exactly. I have George Washington speech. And
I'll read what he said again, look, my son did nothing wrong,
I did nothing wrong. I carried out the policy, United States
Government rooting out corruption in Ukraine, and
that's what we should be focusing on. He says my son
statement statement speaks for itself. He spoke about today, my
sense statement speaks for itself, he actually repeats
himself there. What I think is important is that we focus on
why it's so important to remove this man from office. So he's
just lost it. Then he saw he's lost his train of thought. And
he says this, on the look, the fact that George Washington who
worried on the first time he spoke about being elected
president is was what he actually said, it's just like,
it's gobbledygook. That we had to worry, he used the word
again. He said we had to worry about is
Adam Curry: waiting, whatever it is that that's in that clip we
just heard. Yeah, if you listen to amazing how your brain will
put such disparate, you
John C. Dvorak: piece a lot of it together when you listen to
him talk. But what he said was, on the first time, he spoke
after being elected president that what we had to worry about
is foreign interference in our elections, it was the greatest
threat to America. This president on three occasions,
three occasions, has invited foreign governments in the heads
of government to get engaged. Now the three occasions by the
way, you remember what those are? I do the three one where he
goes jokingly said Russia, if you've got the 30,000 emails
released them. Yeah, that's why this one, too, was when he asked
the Ukrainian guy Hey, if you get a chance to look into the
Biden's, and three was when he said just out casually to China.
And I want to just say casually that China look into the Biden's
so those are the three things. Meanwhile, George Washington a
goddess speech, he says the word foreign is not used in the
speech. The foreign intervention is not used in the speech. The
word intervention is not used in the speech. He talks nothing
about this is a lie. He talks about emoluments, this is an
absolute lie. The real speech which we have in the show notes,
talks about how God is great and how God is overseeing the
country and and guiding us with His invisible hand. That's
pretty much what the speech is his first speech after he got
elected, it's his inaugural address, except for the
Adam Curry: the end of that talks about emoluments and his
business dealings. I thought that was kind of interesting.
The very end of his speech, who have George Washington speech?
Yeah, I mean, I've read it you sent me the thing I'm reading
through this, and I, I don't get it. I thought it was going to be
about emoluments, there's of course, there's nothing in there
about being worried about foreign intervention or No,
John C. Dvorak: no, nothing be. And then if you start thinking
about it, if you're thinking about historically, when ever
did any president before just recently ever discussed or care
about foreign intervention, let alone George Washington. So this
was a blatant lie.
Adam Curry: Well, Joe did a lot of lying. He lied about assault.
John C. Dvorak: Was that particular incident called out
by these fact checkers?
Adam Curry: No, no. But but more interest or equally interesting
to me was how Anderson Cooper framed that question, and I just
want us to listen to that this is a televised debate. We want
to hear what people have to say he's going at the former Vice
President with a tough question, which will not be answered, but
it's a tough question. And here's how he frames it.
Impeachment
Unknown: Inquiry is centred on President Trump's attempts to
get political dirt from Ukraine on Vice President Biden and his
son Hunter. Mr. Vice President, President Trump has falsely
falsely accused your son of doing something wrong while
serving on a company board in Ukraine. I want to point out
there is no evidence no evidence doing by either one of you.
Having said that, on Sunday, you announced that I mean,
Adam Curry: for for a well, I don't know if Anderson considers
himself a journalist. But I think that's kind of an
journalistic
you just,
John C. Dvorak: you know, I we have no Kenneth shocked that I
didn't catch that. Well, you should watch that clip. That
clip proves that the bias is ridiculous. But let me go into
my second fact check.
Unknown: Fact Check false.
John C. Dvorak: This is the we're gonna go debates. This is
Camela on Donald Trump.
Pelosi has said that members of Congress have to be in her words
fair to the President and give him a chance to exonerate
himself. You've already said that, based on everything you've
seen, you would vote to remove him from office. Is that being
fair to the President?
Well, it's just being observant because he has committed crimes
in plain sight. I mean, it's shocking, but he told us who he
was. Maya Angelou told us two years ago, listen to somebody
when they tell you who they are the first time during that
election, Donald Trump told us he could shoot somebody on Fifth
Avenue and get away with it. That's right. Nailed it. Wrong.
Adam Curry: Oh, do you mean it's a fact check fall? So do tell.
John C. Dvorak: But that again, nobody put this in their fat
checklist because it would didn't didn't work in the scheme
of things. Here's Trump's clip of what he actually said.
And he has come.
What does it shoot someone?
Adam Curry: Okay, you make me work today, man. Sorry. They
Unknown: say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see
that? Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot
somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters? Ok. It's like
incredible.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's a little different than than how she
framed it.
John C. Dvorak: She said he could shoot somebody and get
away with it. He said, I could shoot somebody and I wouldn't
lose any voters. That is not the same facts. Back
Adam Curry: check. False. Yes, fact check false.
This is like shooting fish in a barrel. You know, it's it's, I
do like it. It's let me let me give us a little bit of
information. And I think you may be the only person who
understood what Joe Biden was saying here. I saw Twitter go
crazy. I saw red Republican Twitter go. He's lasted. He had
no What was he talking about? He's crazy. This guy who clips
coupons on Wall Street.
Do you believe that Senator Sanders and Senator Warren's
wealth tax plans do that?
Unknown: No, look, I demonising most people. What I've talked
about is how you get things done. And the way to get things
done is take a look at the tax code right now. The idea we have
to start rewarding work, not just wealth, I would eliminate
the capital gains tax, that would I would raise the capital
gains tax to the highest
Adam Curry: it didn't it didn't help that he flubbed that one
that didn't make anything good tax
Unknown: that in I would I would raise the capital gains tax to
the highest rate of 39.5%. I would double it. Because guess
what, why in God's name, should someone who's clipping coupons
on the stock market make in fact pay a lower tax rate than
someone who in fact is, like I said, a schoolteacher and a
firefighter is ridiculous, and they pay a lower tax.
Adam Curry: So there were all these RNC GOP Twitter accounts
going He's lost it. Who thinks people on Wall Street are
clipping coupons? Assassin, they're
John C. Dvorak: referring to clipping coupons, the old
fashioned way of clipping them off the bonds you'd buy? Yes.
coupons on and you clip the coupons off? Yes, exactly.
Adam Curry: This is what people don't understand. And, and I
asked a lot of people, no one understood this. And I was I was
quite frankly shocked at No, I mean, there are still people who
clip coupons, take them to the issuing bank against their
interest check. They yeah, there's there's people who
actually cut them off and now of course, the only plate pay
capital gains tax, which is which was his point. But that
and I'm going to use the word for the second time.
anachronism. Joe Biden is an anachronism. He cannot
communicate in terms that anyone except to old fogy, white dudes,
you and me's understand maybe Horowitz? Or was Horowitz
reasonably
John C. Dvorak: well, anybody in the business would know it?
Adam Curry: It nobody on Twitter, none of the talking
heads. They all laughed. They all laughed at him. And of
course, he's laughable because he makes gaffe after gaffe. But
this was, I mean, instead of saying that you got a hedge fund
manager or you know, it. No, he conjures up the image of old
people clipping coupons out of the Saturday flyer to go buy
milk. What a moron. I'm sorry. It's cruel. They keep putting
this man on the stage. It's cruel. Well
John C. Dvorak: yeah, there was a fuss over this, but he was
actually right and except I think he's probably more along
the lines of he'd like to be his he's obviously one of those guys
that got a bunch of coupon bonds
Adam Curry: on it. I don't want to pay taxes off my tips. Oh,
John C. Dvorak: yeah. Oh my god. We got other I got a second half
of camera laughter she made that. That insane comment she's
still slam and Trump is another 12 seconds over.
And he has consistently since he won been selling out the
American people. He's been selling out working people. He's
been selling out our values. He's been selling out national
security. And on this issue with Ukraine, he has been selling out
our democracy.
Okay, I did this is a question I have to ask you. Okay. Bye by
just mentioning Joe Biden to the Ukrainian comedian, President,
or prime minister or president. President think? How is that
selling out our democracy?
Adam Curry: Oh, well,
John C. Dvorak: says he's selling out everything but I
don't I don't know specifically
Adam Curry: selling. I mean, by the same token, you can't
explain why he's endangered. Our national security means the same
bullcrap. That's exactly what the television is telling me.
He's endangered our as our politicians. Nancy Chuck Stanny.
They're all saying the endangered our national
security. If you can explain that, then maybe we can
understand the sold out part. No,
John C. Dvorak: they should be more explanatory. Like it's an
explanation please. What do you mean specifically when you say
these things
Adam Curry: I thought Beto ended his ended his run during this
debate.
John C. Dvorak: He ended his run way before this.
Adam Curry: This was this was about the gun buyback scheme
that he's touting in the gun buyback scheme is one thing, but
he took it one step further, which I think just ended him
right there.
John C. Dvorak: That's the follow up your expectations
aside, your website says you will find people who don't give
up their weapons that doesn't take those weapons off the
streets. So to be clear, exactly how are you going to take away
weapons from people who do not want to give them up and you
don't know where they are?
Unknown: If someone does not turn in an AR 15 or an AK 47,
one of these weapons of war or brings out in public and
branches it in an attempt to intimidate as we saw when we
were at Kent State recently, then that weapon will be taken
from them. If they persist, there will be other consequences
from law enforcement. But the expectation is that Americans
will follow the law I believe in this country. I believe in my
fellow Americans, I believe that they will do the right thank
you.
Adam Curry: We will take your guns or there will be
consequences for you. Oh, yeah.
Good luck, Beto. Good luck. I'm amazed that I'm back into Texas
talking like that. Yeah. Oh,
I'm sorry. I didn't know you were so bored. You walked away.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, better. I can't really sit close to the
screen and get anxious. I want to bust up the
Adam Curry: cans it took us to beto
John C. Dvorak: Beto, I got no Beto clips.
Adam Curry: That was that was my my was my one and only
John C. Dvorak: more than more than enough. I will say that, by
the way. There was some sort of macho thing going on with budaj
edge and Tulsi now that was cool. He's she was an officer I
and he was like God, I think he's like a ground troop or
something. But he was just talked about her
Adam Curry: he drove. He drove a Humvee I think,
John C. Dvorak: no, okay, well, he's in harm's way. But here he
slams, here's a little short clip of him slamming her.
Unknown: Well, respectfully, Congresswoman, I think that is
dead wrong. The Slaughter going on in Syria is not a consequence
of American presence. It's a consequence of a withdrawal and
a betrayal by this president of American allies and American
values. Yeah,
Adam Curry: they're both wrong. They both have
both. That's ridiculous.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you're but people should go back and listen
to the last show where you did a takedown of this whole Syrian
boots on the ground thing. Yeah, that is, could be a whole show.
But in most instances, just
Adam Curry: remember no boots on the ground. That was the
promise. These are not combat troops. They are not fighting.
In fact, they were not allowed to fight, assist and advise
training only. Or maybe that wasn't true. Who knows.
John C. Dvorak: Now the biggest stink which you may not have
picked up on, but I picked up on it because of some some
following I do on Twitter, and it's a huge, huge stink is when
Biden went after.
Adam Curry: Yes. Oh, I'm sure that was that was smelly.
John C. Dvorak: And this really brought the feminazis out and I
I'm sorry, I'm if I ever say that word again, you can honk
the horn.
Adam Curry: That was, I mean, that's really I mean, maybe I
should do the show was Rush Limbaugh. I mean, why don't we
do that?
John C. Dvorak: We make more money. guy knows how to make
money. And the
Adam Curry: guy that goes to commercial break and says, time
for another insanely profitable commercial break. That guy's
doing okay.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, he does that. But he did. They really
came out of the woodwork on this one. And I do have the clip.
This is pretty much this isn't a whole thing. But this is a 49
seconds of the patronising part that I think got everyone all
irked when he she's talking about the great job she did on a
Consumer Protection Act. Right and this thing good wishes would
you know, this is gonna stop robo call. It didn't do
anything, by the way, from what I can tell. But according to her
it saved consumers. 12 $50 billion.
Adam Curry: This was this. As a part of this. She helped oversee
tarp. The bet the banker bailout she was overseeing that. Yeah.
People forget work. Yeah. Good. I think that's what Joe Biden
said they want to get it was clear.
John C. Dvorak: Wait, wait. He was kind of he got annoyed as
she was going on and on and on. And so he kind of jumps in at
some point. And then they do a little back and forth. And it
was the way it was done. And he also laughs at her. He's
laughing at the woman which makes a course this is bad. If
you ever laugh at a woman this brings out the old horrible Oh,
yeah, no, you can't be bad. That bad, bad, bad. So this is really
a major gaffe, I guess. Here it is. They want to
Unknown: get something done in America, we have to get out
there and the things that touch
their script referenced me, I agreed with the great job she
did. And I went on the floor and got you votes. I got votes for
that bill. I convinced people to vote for it. So let's get those
things straight to
Senator Warren do want to respond.
I am deeply grateful to President Obama, so hard to make
sure that agency was passed into law. And I am deeply grateful to
every single person who fought for it, and who helped pass it
into law. But understand that our job is your job. Thank you.
Now
Adam Curry: I wonder how many people really picked up on him
being cynical.
John C. Dvorak: When he when he says you did a hell of a job to
me, when he said doing it. He didn't quite get it outright.
But he was saying you did a great job doing your job. Right?
That's what got everybody upset.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I didn't even hear it that way. Because
when I think of the Consumer Protection Bureau, enabled by
the Act, which Elizabeth Warren oversaw, and then was kicked out
of if you recall, she was kicked out of it by Obama. Because she
was no good. At it, she did a horrible job. We still have
robocalls I still get all kinds of borderline fraudulent offers
in the mail. I mean, I
John C. Dvorak: got two calls from Apple support the other day
again, from my iCloud account. compromised. Oh, what's your
password quick? Oh, you may have an iCloud account, but okay. No,
of course not. Yeah, my password is f you see.
Adam Curry: That's a funny one. I gotta remember to use that.
Yeah. I thought the now first I thought, just an AI. We can wrap
this up maybe. In general, I felt that Bernie Sanders was
what a comeback. A guy who comes back from a heart attack. He's
smart. And I think he fixed his teeth too. While he was in
there, like, you know, you're out anyway, let's fix these
teeth. And so he was all smiles. He was funny. He was very clear.
Now he had, he's clear and not having any solutions. But he
just consistently hammers with people are sick and tired of it.
They're sick and tired of the cost of, of health insurance,
sick and tired of the cost of prescriptions. They're sick and
tired. And
John C. Dvorak: this message is simple. It's very simple. It's
appealing to a lot of people. Not a lot of bullcrap.
Adam Curry: And then he had the joke of the night. I want to
start with you.
I want to start we're moving on.
Unknown: I'm feeling great, but I would like well, I want to
I want to start by saying
Adam Curry: Senator Sanders is in favour of medical marijuana.
I want To make sure that's clear as well. Senator Sanders
did you ever did you catch that when he says I'm not on it
tonight?
John C. Dvorak: Oh, no, I thought he said not all the
Adam Curry: time. No. He says I'm not on it tonight. He has
humour.
John C. Dvorak: That is cute. Yeah. Everything's great. Quick,
He's quick. Yeah. There's not a beat missed on that comeback.
Adam Curry: And Bernie have lots of funny, funny moments. The
problem with Bernie is he's not a Democrat, you know, because
I'll never let him become the nominee ever in a million years.
Like, I don't even know why he's doing it. Other than he really
has conviction and truly believes in it, which I
appreciate that I really do. Elizabeth Warren, it falls in
the drip category. Get out of here. And you know, seeing what
we saw and basing this on three years of prediction. The obvious
question is, is this the right moment? Is this the time good
company we
John C. Dvorak: couldn't happen yesterday didn't so we're still
holding our breath or not. It seems where we leave the debate.
So I do want to play the I thought it was just a good
Bernie. This Bernie's i This is Bernie's whole bit, kind of
wrapped into one. I believe this is the right one. Bernie,
Bernie, Bernie, on billionaires I think this is it. Yeah, this
is actually pretty funny because this is he's goes off on
everything wrong with the country and everything wrong
with billionaires, there shouldn't be any. And he gets
that idiot, Tom Steyer to come up next, I don't have to agree.
billion I
Adam Curry: hate myself.
John C. Dvorak: I hate those billionaires, I don't
Adam Curry: like being a billionaire. Everybody have a
grand on me.
When you introduced your wealth tax, which would tax the assets
of the wealthiest Americans, you said, quoting you, Senator
billionaires should not exist is the goal of your plan to tax
billionaires out of existence.
Unknown: When you have a half a million Americans sleeping out
on the street today, when you have 87 people, 87 million
people uninsured or underinsured when you got hundreds of 1000s
of kids who cannot afford to go to college, and millions
struggling with the oppressive burden of student debt. And then
you also have three people owning more wealth than the
bottom half of American society. That is a moral and economic
outrage. And the truth is, we cannot afford to continue this
level of income and wealth inequality. And we cannot afford
a billionaire class whose greed and corruption has been at war
with the working families of this country for 45 years. So if
you're asking me, do I think we should demand that the wealthy
stop paying the wealthiest top 1/10 of 1%? Stop paying their
fair share of taxes? So we can create a nation and a government
that works for all of us? Yes, that's exactly what I believe.
Adam Curry: Again, he hits all the right buttons, but then he's
like, Well, we'll just fix it with taxes on them. And no one
believes that. No one believes it. Everyone knows that be done.
No. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Now if you read me, people should read my essay
on wealth tax and what it's really should be like and how it
works and why it would work. Well, it doesn't involve soaking
the top. They get they but they do get deigned a lot more than
they do today.
Adam Curry: A new way of taxation. Yeah, fair. Taxation.
John C. Dvorak: Eliminates, in my opinion, the real problem is
income to income should not be taxed, because people cannot
accumulate wealth. If you attack, if you just keep
attacking their income, you should only attack their wealth
after they accumulate it. And most people don't have a lot of
wealth and they'd be paying very little taxes, if any, they'd
definitely be paying less than they're paying now, except the
super hyper wealthy that have a pot load of money, they'd be
paying more and it's but it's not that much. 1.8% I think is
the number I came up with.
Adam Curry: Well, while we're dicking around in this morass of
sludge, there's actual things going on Europe is kind of on
fire. We've got the yellow vests rioting and to loose we've got
coverage of that we've got to cut the lawn is exploding
violence everywhere because they're locking people up for
for a decade or more the Netherlands. Where's the
coverage of that the Netherlands The farmer Defence Force went to
The Hague to protest with their tractors, and the and think
about it, pitch for works and tractors. The politicians were
so afraid. They didn't call the police. They didn't call the
SWAT team. No, they put the military on the streets. The
government is so afraid of the farmers. They put the military
there to defend them.
Where's the coverage?
You'd think that would be important because it could
happen anywhere. And it's in there is this shit going on? Oh,
yes, the revolution will not be televised, I should have known
better.
John C. Dvorak: And with that I don't want to televise it for
that reason, these large corporations that own the media.
They This is the they don't want to get this kind of a mess there
would give anybody any ideas.
Adam Curry: And those two no agenda douchebag should be quiet
too. Yeah, well, luckily, and they would have silenced us many
moons ago. Had we not chosen for a value for value method. And
with that, I would like to thank you for your courage in this.
The man who put the sea and coupon clipping in the morning
to you John C. Dvorak.
John C. Dvorak: Well, in the morning to you and Mr. Adam
curry also in the morning and all of what is it feet on the
ground, foot in the air, feet in the air subs in the water. I'm
sorry, subs in the water boots on the ground. subs in the
water, and all the Dames and nighttime, in the morning to
Adam Curry: our trolls hanging out at no agenda stream.com It
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John C. Dvorak: You get to interact with one host. Yeah,
yes. True. Although I do give them Crap. Crap. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And in the morning to John Fletcher. Fletcher
brought us the artwork for episode 1181. The title of that
was solutioning. And it was hard to choose art. I don't think
there was the selection was not
John C. Dvorak: broad. There was a lot to choose from. But you
started off as saying there's nothing
Adam Curry: and you almost nailed my voice. Could you try
it again?
John C. Dvorak: There's no I can do it. I can actually do your
voice. Okay. There's nothing.
Adam Curry: Exactly. I've that's precisely the way I do it.
Fletcher,
John C. Dvorak: my mom's voice and and my wife's voice.
Adam Curry: It's all it's all the women in your life.
This was the climate repair shop.
I don't remember how it was relevancy to the show. But we
thought it was a fun piece of art. There
John C. Dvorak: was a moment in the show where somebody
discussed
Adam Curry: repairing the climate is
John C. Dvorak: something Yeah, it was it was really close to
Yeah, clearly having a climate repair shop was mentioned in
some odd way.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right. Yeah. Well, yeah. It worked for
us. And we're very appreciative. And also to everybody who who
gave it a shot for sure. I mean, we're not every piece of art is
appreciated. Every piece of art has its place. All art is just
in the eye of the beholder. We happen to be two of them. And
that's why people can go to the no agenda, art generator.com
Look at all the pieces of art, remix them do other things with
them, use them put them on things go to no agenda shop.com
where the artists get paid for their artwork that's put onto
mugs, T shirts, hats, you name it. But above all, it is a great
way to notify as a little nudge to people who are subscribed to
the show or maybe just cruising around a wait a minute, that
looks different. That's a different you know, you get used
to patterns and if the patterns change slightly people notice
and apparently, the podcast app in iOS 13 with the latest betta
is now working and so the album art changes once again. Yes,
we're very happy about that because we adhere to the spec in
the standard and we expect the same from our partners. Okay,
John C. Dvorak: well we do have a few people to thank including
one Whopper at the top and it is also a moment. Jakob Hopper or
Jacob Hopper came in with 2003 Dots re three
oh my goodness, as a double Insta night and Dame this is
easy bye by his wife. Oh, okay.
Just checking. And he says good info vond putting our phones
good novena.
Adam Curry: We're not Adam, Shawn.
John C. Dvorak: Adam and John Forgive me pot father for I have
sinned, and have been a douche bag for two years. So I was hit
in the mouth by a marine that was stationed near me in
Havelock North Carolina a while back and I would like to Call
him out as a douche bag.
Adam Curry: Oh, here we go. Oh, what happened in my bag?
John C. Dvorak: Is name's Jonathan by No,
Adam Curry: no I know but I the douche bag gets on the floor
here. Oh, okay, I got it. That's better.
John C. Dvorak: So Jonathan gets that he needs a D douching. For
him and his keeper.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C. Dvorak: Korey Stringer. We'd rather we'd like this
donation to be a double night Dame combo for the two of us.
Yes, the dame drive guilted me. This is interesting
Adam Curry: Dame drive. All right, it works a game drive
worked
John C. Dvorak: to guilt me into the extra donation I have hit
what is this I've hit numerous people in the mouth and keep on
trying to spread the message to shrink as many amygdalas as
humanity possibly as humanly possible. Dutch pronounciation
he's
Adam Curry: saying so he wants to I have hit numerous people in
the mouse and try to keep spread to spread the message to shrink
as many make the laws as humanly possible possible.
John C. Dvorak: Now he I want you to read the rest of this
kind of with a little bit of that accent even though I be it
is not Dutch.
Adam Curry: Why? Why would I insult him?
John C. Dvorak: Okay, well, the reason is because my this is
notes. I'm happy. I'm
Adam Curry: happy to write. I'm happy to tell I'm happy to read
it. We were happy to see our brothers and one sister at a
meet up in Utrecht a couple of weeks ago. Shout out to Dame
Jacobina for her bravery and Sir Hendrik for setting it all up.
And we thoroughly enjoyed all the conversations with no
triggering of any sort and you will love this Adam I'm an
active duty Coast Guard Lieutenant Commander stationed
in the landlocked Limburg region of the Netherlands. And that's
that's an interesting place for for for naval guy.
John C. Dvorak: Even with Coast Guard Hold on a second. I will
there's no explanation for this. But why is it East US Coast US
Coast Guard? Yes. What is he doing there?
Adam Curry: He's on reserve for for the Georgia. Don't you
remember that? We sent the Coast Guard to the Coast Guard to
Georgia when Russia was where they were fighting the coast
guards everywhere. That's a good question though. Even though
being landlocked for just over three years, I managed to fulfil
my traditional life saving service duties and rescue three
severely drunk Belgians who had sunk their rented canoe in the
middle of a lake near post Meyer lohnt. My normal job is a port
security liaison where I travel frequently to the Middle East
Africa, even some non EU countries way up north and
scattered about hopefully I can catch up with you next time
you're in the Netherlands for sharing some good stories but
they may not be Captain magenic quality quarter you and I love
you and John C and always look forward to listening especially
John's pronunciation of anything Dutch along with your
spectacular Dutch accent. I would like to be named Sir Jacob
guardian of the Lindbergh coast, and Korea would like to be named
Dane quarry Lady of 10 Boom. I would like bloat abilities in
its crust stone port and flaming buttholes at the roundtable,
Cody would like Vitamin E vapes and vodka at the roundtable. We
love you guys very much. Thank you from the bottom of our
hearts for giving us some sanity while in the EU. Couples that no
agenda together stay together. You've got karma
John C. Dvorak: and that's the end of our executive producer
list. I
Adam Curry: was it was short, but it was a good one.
John C. Dvorak: And our Associate Executive Producer
list isn't too long either. We only have two. One is Dylan Tice
and valley Nebraska. $201. He says my older brother Troy hit
me in the mouth about a year ago I've been freeloading off your
show ever since. So I feel a deep douching is in order.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C. Dvorak: and this is the second time Troy Tice has been
called out as a douchebag sir oz of the windy plains. This is my
first donation and I'd like a D douching. rally with these reds
together
Adam Curry: are you talking through the D douching?
John C. Dvorak: I'm talking through the D douching. I'm
doing this because
Adam Curry: again be quiet isn't a deducing or not he
John C. Dvorak: says I'd like it but it's for the next guy.
Adam Curry: Well that's what we just did this. We just did Dylan
Teece Yeah, you're not at all when
John C. Dvorak: I haven't mentioned
Adam Curry: Oh okay. Why I have no problem with the spreadsheet.
I can see it.
John C. Dvorak: I can't but when I'm overseas that move it over
sell to sell so I have this huge red areas all looks like one.
Adam Curry: Well, why don't you have the whole spreadsheet I
mean you you're just Rolling in this thing
John C. Dvorak: I scraped scrolls and horizontally
Adam Curry: yeah that's not that's not a good way to do it
just zoom out I'm at 80%
John C. Dvorak: Yeah Okay my way you do it your ways
Adam Curry: well okay G working great.
John C. Dvorak: Well once in a while when you have the
situation you can understand it yours is just a giant block of
text. It looks like the same text. Anyway, next on the list
it didn't get anything like a maybe karma.
Adam Curry: Well, I can give him a Karma show. You've got karma
John C. Dvorak: or last in our last and second Associate
Executive Producers oz of the windy plains in Clovis in the
middle of nowhere New Mexico. And he is get the same thing he
says he's this his first donation he needs to do tuition
which we've given him already. Oh, no,
Adam Curry: he has not gotten it because both times I interrupt
over you just completely obliterated the deal. whooshing
John C. Dvorak: interrupt us. Okay,
Adam Curry: here we go. Well,
Unknown: you've been deemed deuced
John C. Dvorak: to math by Timothy n. But he needs to be
called out is a douchebag. So now he needs a request of the
whole load which I don't know what that is. I do and China
asshole.
Adam Curry: That is you know, we're gonna die in this clip is
going to be played at our funerals. This is like the
enemy. That's true. And China is so and he's the one to some
karma with that.
John C. Dvorak: No, not that's true. The whole line? I
Adam Curry: got it. I got I'm just saying these are these.
John C. Dvorak: You said nothing about Chrome. But I would I
would give him
Unknown: some I'm gonna give you the whole load disk. You've got
John C. Dvorak: so while on so while on the topic of that Biden
club, I do have an ISO an ISO from the database. This is a
Biden.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm just looking forward here for a
second
John C. Dvorak: bite Biden ISO.
Adam Curry: I could be funny. No, it's Oh, it's at the top of
the list. Of course. Here we go. This is Shang Han back, back
back back. This is shameful. This is shameful.
I mean, I I would have wanted to do my ISO for the entire show,
which is we have a deal.
John C. Dvorak: I get did very hard to understand that one was
the overdue
Adam Curry: Zoo. Shameful. I think we'll use that that's a
good one. But unless something else pops up during the show.
All right. Well, that was a very short list. But why are a short
list so nice that we have our Dame Dr. has, has started to
work and there's a tension being I mean, we're not just a bunch
of douchebags. We want the women on the show. And the dame drive
is finally catching on. And we need more dame's at the
roundtable and we'll be bringing two of them on. Actually three
people I think are coming on to the list for the roundtable
today. That will be coming up in our second segment for now
though, really like to thank our it is in fact to executive
producers in one donation and two Associate Executive
producers for their courage and supporting episode 1182 of the
no agenda show you can do that as well. It's simple all you
have to do is go to
wcco.org/n A
and those credits are Real you should go out let everybody know
about it propagated our formula
John C. Dvorak: is this we go out we hit people in the mouth
Adam Curry: you know all of this, all of this and you really
can't call it anything else with propaganda surrounding the
Ukraine impeachment push the UIP Ukraine impeachment push. It
does eventually seep in and in a world where in a world where we
only read headlines, I mean truly only read headlines and
and actually would just love retweeting headlines based upon
the headline we really don't read. I'm thankful that we
looked at the Ukraine transcript the minute it was released, and
we could see that the truth of what at least the only evidence
we have now it's a transcript. So who knows but it's it's
supposed to be correct. So we know exactly Leave what did or
did not go on and all you hear about and all that is being
parroted across the spectrum into the you know, through the
whole machine, not just the cable news and the M five M but
the social the social and social nets. It's everywhere is you
know, he's traders given up our national security and he's not
he's above he doesn't he thinks he's above the law. He can't be
we've got to get rid of him. He's the worst president ever.
Never seen a president so corrupt? This is a new one the
most corrupt president in history. I think Biden even said
that during the debate. It does
John C. Dvorak: get that's a Bernie originally has been
passed around. It does
Adam Curry: seep into the psyche. And and that's what I'm
worried about. I'd like to play a clip from a podcast, and it's
to cultural icons of the moment. Tip ti Harris, who you probably
don't know you, have you heard of Chance the Rapper. Do you
know Chance the Rapper stuff
John C. Dvorak: I know chance to read I don't know, chance. No
Adam Curry: Chance the Rapper. And Cardi B, Cardi B you know
Cardi B Do
John C. Dvorak: you've seen her. Everybody knows crazy.
Adam Curry: Everybody knows Cardi B. Now, their audience
their prime audience is young white girls, that is who buys
Hip Hop records. That is who loves these cultural icons. They
are not on par with a Beyonce or an Oprah. But they're definitely
people who are listened to. And this was a podcast on podcast
one, which is part of the Westwood one radio networks. And
they were sitting together talking about the election and
the president and and how elections work. Now, it'll be
hard for me not to laugh at some of the obvious vocab vocabulary
gaffes. And I make tonne of them myself. But it kind of shows you
as we listen
John C. Dvorak: of them, I'm sorry, a tonne of what it is. I
make tonne of them.
Adam Curry: I make tonne good good gifts, I make a tonne of
them. I think you just didn't hear it to the Skype connects
John C. Dvorak: possible. But it's still fun. But it also
shows
Adam Curry: you you will immediately recognise these
vocabulary gaffes as just someone who's heard something
and is just parroting what they've heard on the mainstream
media. But I'm concerned about the influence they have on our
young people. Of course, it's not only white, but man that is
their big audience. And this I feel is to a degree harmful. And
I just want to bring it to everyone's attention that this
is what your children are probably listening to.
Unknown: I feel like Oprah could be president, but it's just
like, it's like if it was so. It was so hard for Hillary to
become a president.
John C. Dvorak: Do you know why? I was already good. Do you know
why I feel like a presidential you already have the boat. She
did, but she didn't go with the Electoral College.
Unknown: The Electoral College are gonna go with.
Adam Curry: I mean, I'm sorry, I don't usually correct things
like this, but it's the electoral college. It's not the
electorial college. And now I'm playing it's not even funny
anymore. I've been so sad about this podcast.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, but she didn't go with the Electoral
College.
Unknown: The Electoral College are gonna go with what with
John C. Dvorak: this is the thing about presidential
candidates over the course of our lifetime. When we hear about
a presidential candidate, we have very little to no
experience or no knowledge of them or their platform until
somebody said, Hey, this person ran for president. Right? The
first time we hit a name is this person in some ways running for
president? You know what I'm saying? Right? If you have an
Oprah, if you have a Beyonce if you have, even with Trump,
Donald Trump, we knew these people before we knew them. We
have more knowledge of them than we did, let's just say of
Hillary, but a lot of the thing we knew about Hillary is well,
you know, she stayed with a lot
Unknown: of a lot of people, a lot of Americans, they vote with
feelings, and a lot of these people feel religion. They vote
due to religion, and they vote to race and, and fear and fear
they are there. They fear that a black man or black woman will
take over this country.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, didn't we all vote a black man
into the presidency, but
John C. Dvorak: clearly they didn't know that they may not?
Well, it
Adam Curry: gets worse. It gets worse. And this is why I'm
playing this. This is one of the most racist discussions I've
heard in a while. Uh, of course black people can't be racist but
it's racist to
Unknown: race and and fear and fear they are there they fear
that a black man or black woman will take over this country.
John C. Dvorak: But what is that to be honest with you? Hip hop
has already taken over the country. How's it
Adam Curry: working out so far then and the world
Unknown: there's a lot of country bumpkin, as men do.
We'll be voting
Adam Curry: there we go a lot of country as bumpkin men, which is
code for White, who will be voting and we only voted the
bumper bumpkins in Texas and stuff. We only vote on feelings
and race.
Unknown: They don't listen to hip hop. Like for example,
listen to hip hop. Now let me let me tell you something. looks
away I was looking at
what about following the people with the best ideas?
Some people don't give a fuck about the best ideas they really
vote with feelings. Come on now. Look, look at Donald Trump right
every single time he always talk about how you want to take away
Medicare's and she like that. Just
Adam Curry: that damn Trump talking about taking away the
Medicare's he's never said that. But to everyone else has said
that he's wants to take away the Medicare's spoke
Unknown: about the best ideas they rarely vote with feelings.
Come on now. Look, look at Donald Trump right? Every single
time he always talk about how you want to take away Medicare's
and she like a poor white man. Don't give a fuck a poor white
man that's getting Medicare is not me caring that he's saying
that he just cares that he hates Mexicans, and he wants to get
rid of them.
Adam Curry: That's it. That's right. Yes. No one cares about
the Medicare's. We just want to make sure that the President
hates Mexicans and gets rid of them. That's what country
bumpkins do.
Unknown: Nobody cared. Nobody cares. He's saying that He just
cares that he hates Mexicans, and he wants to get rid of them.
I don't care if Donald Trump take away the things that I
need. I just hate Mexicans, and I want them gone. I'm going to
keep on going for them. A lot of people vulva filling in America,
and a lot of they fill in is racism as a religion.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Well, you know, the pride comes before the
fall, if you can, if you can feed into a person's fears and
insecurities. You could joystick them in direct their paragraph
to do and go wherever the fuck you want them to. And that's
exactly what's being done with the Republican Party.
Adam Curry: And I would say that's exactly what's happened
to the three of you. You have been sticked and moved and
manipulated by the Democrat Party, and by the mainstream
media and the general political discourse of the M five M across
all boundaries into being bigoted, racist dicks. And they
have influence. This is not unimportant that this is
happening.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that was the most depressing clip that
you've played ever.
Adam Curry: I don't know. I think I had a dog dying clip
that was more depressing.
John C. Dvorak: I don't think so. But holy mackerel, yeah,
that's an eye opener.
Adam Curry: And that and this is Cardi B is you know, she's top
of her game right now in the entertainment world Chance the
Rapper is established. I mean, these are big names. And that's
what they're feeding us.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's in their music too. You can count
on that. Yeah. That's what they claim where they said, If you
don't listen to hip hop, you won't
Adam Curry: have a clue. If you listen to hip hop then even
worse,
John C. Dvorak: must be with a lot of their writing it
Adam Curry: so sorry to bum you out, but I just I was my mouth
was a gassed.
John C. Dvorak: up pretty bad. Well, it's
talking about stuff that is again, not being reported, which
is one of the things we were discussing. Here's a couple of
items I have that again, this because of the Giuliani thing
and Trump, we don't hear about this. I can't find any anything
about this in a mainstream. I got it on Democracy Now had it
of course, Mexican news.
Unknown: In Mexico, the Senate is slated to vote on legislation
to legalise marijuana in the coming days. The bill's passage
would mark a major shift away from the US back drug war in
Mexico, which has killed 10s of 1000s of people since it began
in 2006. This is Mexican Senator Ricardo mon Prowl, a member of
the Mexican president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador is Murena
party. Elimination produce your knees in places when
eliminating prohibition in the country is good. I think the
possibility of regulating consumption, the cultivation
commercialization is a good thing. as well, also heading
towards industrial use is also good. I think that Mexico is
prepared to take on such a position on such trajectory. But
there are voices like that of the president who has said there
should be a national consultation, which is under
consideration, which is pending and which is under discussion.
Adam Curry: Okay. So it's not legal yet, or is it legal? I'm a
little confused.
John C. Dvorak: It's going to be though it's pretty apparent that
they're pushing for this and maybe they're doing it to get
more money out of us to stop them. But I'm not sure I
Adam Curry: can't wait for Fox News and Tucker Carlson to belly
at Tucker,
John C. Dvorak: about your bitching about this about it.
Yes. It was funny to see their protests showed a movie of a
protest everybody's smoking. It was pretty amusing. Here's
another story that no one's talking about. And this one's
about in entails Canada, and another one of these Indian
uprisings. This is Canada Mohawk issues
Unknown: in Canada, a member of the Mohawk community, and Ganesa
Dagi in southwestern Quebec has gone on a hunger strike amidst
an escalating land struggle between the First Nations tribe
and real estate developers. The residents are asking Canadian
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to implement a short term or
moratorium on old development in their territory. Trudeau has
promised reconciliation with Canada's first nations. He's
facing the possibility of being unseeded and Canada's federal
elections next week. This is Ellen Gabriel,
because the government has been ignoring us for many
generations, but in particular with this government that
promised that we would be the most important relationship in
Canada. And it wasn't so a hunger strike to provide some
light to this complex issue that that you know that people I'm
gonna sit down get a Kanye Gaga Mohawk people have been fighting
for for many, many generations. Oh, yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Well, Judo is supposed to be the big champion
of this and he just bailed on it. You know, this guy's done.
President
Adam Curry: Obama on Twitter. Quote,
I was proud to work with Justin Trudeau as president. He's a
hardworking effective leader who takes on big issues like climate
change. The world needs his progressive leadership now and I
hope our neighbours to the north support him. He just came out
and endorsed blackface wearing Justin Trudeau Wow. And still
has said zero about Joe Biden.
John C. Dvorak: Now he hates Biden, apparently. No kidding.
Adam Curry: You know, that's to Democracy Now clips in a row and
I'm kicking myself because neither of us caught the obvious
gaff on the previous episode. 1181. I did catch it. Well, we
didn't mention it. We didn't talk about it. I have
John C. Dvorak: steamrolled me. Well, here's the clip. This is
the black trans woman. This is from Democracy Now.
Unknown: Democratic presidential candidates attended a CNN hosted
Town Hall Thursday night. South Bend Indiana Mayor Pete
Buttigieg was interrupted by activists holding a banner and
chanting trans lives matter.
John C. Dvorak: Yep. Poon. Buttigieg.
Adam Curry: I thought it was more poop. You want to call it?
I think I think I have the
ice. I have an ice. Oh, here we go. Really did judge I think
it's poop. Listen again. I really did judge one more time.
Oop. Trying to get Be quiet. Really did judge sounds like
poop poop really did change.
John C. Dvorak: It does sound like poop poop. Buttigieg tastes
like oh, it's poop. You're right.
Unknown: It's really to change.
Adam Curry: Now that's not our end of show ISO really did
change? No, I guess not.
John C. Dvorak: It's okay. It's a good show title. Judges a
great show title.
Adam Curry: What happened? We did talk about about this and I
specifically said one of our transgender listeners would
would weigh in and of course, Allie Jade the official training
of the no agenda show. That's how she calls herself. She
responded about transgender women of colour being murdered
because you know, there's really no reporting on what's
happening. And and I think we asked a very simple question
what's happening? All we hear is reporting that it's happening
but what why what is going on?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, what you do the reporting supposed to be
what why, when? Who? Then? Who? Who, What, Why, yes. When, where
and where is any of this? We don't get anything. Well,
Adam Curry: this is coming from a trans woman. And she would
know that
transgender people tend to get pulled towards prostitution and
other sex work. And black trans people tend to go more in that
direction. and tend to be in rougher areas. Then on top of
that, when in relationships that people that trans people end up
with or around can be bad news sometimes making a lot of deaths
and danger being domestic gone bad, or community violence, ie
someone regretting sex with a trans person, or some other form
of regret or anger. The cherry on the cake is the black
community itself. The DL, understand the DL blacks
downloaddownload I guess Yeah, the DL blacks don't care for gay
people, and don't like trans either, but kind of a joke is a
large percentage of black guys love to exploitive trans chicks.
I run in the online and used to in person circles where there's
always a large amount of black guys chasing trans girls but
would never admit it, or want to be confronted about it, which
can lead to the higher deaths because of conflicts. me I am a
lower middle class just getting by American white trans. I live
in a safe area. I have a longtime career and I pass as a
woman, I don't get into social justice warrior trans advocates
life as I see that as being dangerous. Also, I've said to
you guys before, transgender is not a gender, it's a medical
term indicating you're transitioning to the opposite
gender, with trans people being fully out and open also can lead
to these high murder rates. Hell, of course, it isn't even
counting the suicides note for John, I do not agree with anyone
under 18 being transitioned people underestimate the power
of hormones, and how they affect the mind and the body after
puberty when the proper transition timeline should be
visited. And she posted a link there. So there you go. And now
we understand why it's never
John C. Dvorak: a reasonable person who listens to the show.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. He's not triggered not pissed off, not
angry and gave us an honest answer. It's her opinion. I've
heard this. But you will never hear this from people who are
yelling and an activist. It appears there may be an issue in
the black community and the trans community itself. But they
make it seem like it the patriarchy is killing black
trans women white white men. That's very cisgender Yes. So
thank you very much ally Jade
John C. Dvorak: stand for anyway CIS CIS what does that mean?
Let's
Adam Curry: what you are you and I are cis.
John C. Dvorak: But what does it mean? What is the worst that
word come from?
Adam Curry: We should know this.
John C. Dvorak: Why do we use it? I don't use it.
Adam Curry: I use it all the time and
John C. Dvorak: the kids use it. Why did the kids
Adam Curry: okay cisgender definition of Sis sis for
cisgender This is from Merriam Webster, of relating to or being
a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex the
person had or was identified as having at birth. So somehow the
SIS comes from
corresponding maybe no they should tell us what it is you
right I really don't understand she
John C. Dvorak: brought it up at the table and somebody at the
table knew and I forgot it has it's like a chemical term. It's
like you know you have these ISO propyl Oh, like like molecular
structure? Yes. Like sis has something to do with it's
something I don't even yeah, here we go. Here we
Adam Curry: go sis adjective denoting or relating to a
molecular structure in which two particle atoms or groups lie on
the same side of a given plane in the molecule, a particular
donut denoting an isomer, in which substituents at opposite
ends of a carbon carbon double bond are on the same side of the
bond. Cheese Can I kind of be called something else? I'd
rather you call me. Carbon. I don't want to be carbon carbon
bond. This is no good. By the way, big Mia culpa from my side.
Oh, my goodness. I was blown away by this and I'm very upset
with myself. As it pertains to our conversation about Jennifer
Aniston, whether she is from California or Austin, and I said
there's only one actress from Austin. That's Sandy Bullock.
And she is our hometown girl. And I was slapped in the face by
the truth, a big fat check false.
I quote you from Arlington magazine, not in Texas, in
Arlington District of Columbia. Long, long before actress Sandra
Bullock won an Oscar for her performance in The Blind Side.
She was stirring things up at Washington Lee High School as
president of its pep club. Bullock's family landed in
Arlington when her father took a job at the Pentagon. Her parents
bought a white brick house on 26th Street in Woodmont, where
her mother an opera singer reportedly entertained party
guests by belly dance Dancing. Although the actress has said in
interviews she was teased in junior high, bollock blossomed
at Washington Leigh as a varsity cheerleader and drama student,
the future star was even voted class clown and funniest by her
1982 graduating class, she is zero Texan. She's just here for
the taxes of lack of taxes, which is smart, but oh my. She's
not part of us.
She's a spook.
Born in the same hospital. I was born in Arlington hospital three
months before me. Spoke taxes, taxes, taxes, the taxes.
And
I think this is a an important clip we should play and discuss
briefly, as we kind of tore apart the whole China NBA thing
on the last show the TPP how Obama was all in with Nike.
Where was this going to lead? What was going to happen? was
King James gonna say anything? Would LeBron come out and make a
statement? And LeBron James came out, made a statement, possibly
the shittiest statement he could have made ever and here it is.
We all talk about this freedom of speech. Yes, we all do have
freedom of speech. But at times, there are ramifications for the
negative that can happen. When you're not thinking about
others, and only you're only thinking about yourself, so I
don't believe I don't want to get into a word, word or
sentence feud with Darrell with Daryl Morey, but I believe he
wasn't educated on on the situation at hand, and any spoke
and so many people could have been harmed. Not only
financially but physically, emotionally spiritually. So just
be careful what we what we tweet when we say what we do, even
though yes, we do have free speech, but there can be a lot
of negative consequences. You
know, I've watched ESPN, I watched Fox Sports one. I
watched all the newscast. Nowhere did I hear anyone
deconstruct King James's statement to hold on a second
first of all, he said more a the manager was uneducated owner own
Houston second owner on educated but he could have hurt people
first on the list financially. Not not about you know, hurt
their feelings or anything else. financially. Then it was actual
bodily harm. mental, spiritual, spiritual
John C. Dvorak: anguish. Yeah, but
Adam Curry: financial at the top
of the list. I'm telling you, LeBron James is auditioning to
be an owner, because he's got what it takes ladies and
gentlemen. Douchebag, who cares only about money and shut up
about anything else. To be an owner soon watch. And I don't
John C. Dvorak: get the word. It's been a foregone conclusion.
This is the richest guy in sports. But he I surprised he.
He said anything about the uneducated comment. All he said
was I have sympathy for the people of Hong Kong. He didn't
even really
Adam Curry: uneducated. No, he was uneducated, because he was
on You gotta listen to what LeBron is saying. Because God
has
John C. Dvorak: to tell you, Okay, he's saying he's
uneducated, but not as an idiot for saying anything about Hong
Kong or not knowing anything, but he's uneducated by the fact
that he doesn't realise Yes, just by saying anything
whatsoever is gonna cost me money. Yes,
Adam Curry: that's right. That's exactly right. It's despicable.
John C. Dvorak: It is pretty bad.
Adam Curry: I mean, how can you still watch the game knowing
that this is how they think they don't give a shit about you?
You're John, you're the big fan of the warriors. Oh, Steph
Curry. Oh, they're they don't care. They don't care about you.
They do not care.
John C. Dvorak: I made a total agreement with this thinking and
I was watching the Twitter's go on it. And Chuck D is like
you're totally involved defending LeBron.
Adam Curry: Really? Another guy get out of here, Chuck D. That's
just so insulting, money grubbing. Gosh, shoot, I'm
sorry. I dammit. I missed this on the trans segment. Can I just
take it back to the trans segment even though I closed it
out? Okay. Here's the British Chief of Police. As you know, in
the United Kingdom misgendering someone is illegal.
Unknown: Today is International pronouns day, which is the day
particularly important to people who identify as transgender or
gender non conforming. being misgendered can have a huge
impact on somebody and their personal well being. It also can
be used as a form of abuse for somebody. And that just isn't
right. Today is about raising awareness, getting people to
have conversations and understanding why it is so
important to understand the pronouns that somebody wishes to
be used for them. Have a good day. Have a
Adam Curry: good day. Hey, you go that's the police.
John C. Dvorak: That's when I was a kid during the 60s. You'd
have long hair, because everybody did. Yeah. Late
60s 70s 70s In particular, and once in a while, you used to be
gas stations, attendants. And you'd roll down your windows and
say, What can I do for you, ma'am? You'd get that every so
often because it's your hair.
Unknown: Sure.
John C. Dvorak: Well, so I should be all upset about this.
And I should sue them again. Call the cops. Because that was
misgendered. Yeah.
Adam Curry: That's interesting, because when I was a kid, I had
long hair. This was 72. And you know, we had the Schwinn chopper
bike, banana saddle. You know, then I was all sudden, I moved
to Holland, and no one had my hair. And I got pastored a lot.
And a lot of people said, How about your daughter? What's your
daughter doing? And I was misgendered throughout my entire
youth. And I want some reparation. reparations.
reparations. reparations for being misgendered and I'm sure
it affected me I remember has always sucked.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I do. Or nervous tics. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's when it started around seven. That's
exactly right. It's not nervous. Texas. Tourette syndrome is I'm
a victim. I'm a victim.
John C. Dvorak: I think all nervous tics or Tourette's. Oh,
no, that's,
Adam Curry: I've talked about this pedantic but I talked about
with Botanik. And he said, you know about it. He's a
psychologist, and a psychiatrist. And as something
other ist he studied it some versus a captain.
He's said, no, no, no. Actually, his explanation was worse. He
doesn't believe so you don't have Tourette's? I said, What do
you mean, look, I'm taking all over the place that's not
Tourette's. I said, I could work with you and find it. It's just
some severe trauma from your youth. I'm like, I'd rather have
Tourette's. I don't want to know, I don't fuck with my head.
I don't want to deal with the severe trauma was Steve. Thanks.
John C. Dvorak: So it could be he's one of those guys.
Adam Curry: It could be the misgendering.
Unknown: It's possible.
John C. Dvorak: Not a girl. And
Adam Curry: now that I've gotten that out, maybe don't think
maybe the ticks will stop. Oh, my God. It could actually could
actually work. Nope, it didn't. I just ticked OTG going Oh, time
for another OTG road card. That's right.
John C. Dvorak: OTG going oh, no, t g guyhnic.
Adam Curry: Yes, if you're new, and we love to give you reasons
to consider going off the grid, or as Andrew Yang did not say
break up with big tech break up with them. You really don't need
them. Here's what's happening. Four stories. The first one, my
favourite ad blocker, which many people use, you block origin?
You may even use that? Do you use it? You block origin? I
don't use that. It's very famous. Lots of people use it.
Google has now rejecting that it may no longer be installed from
the Chrome Web Store if actually it may not be able to be
installed at all.
John C. Dvorak: Like to be quiet because it works.
Adam Curry: Yes. You didn't let me do the punch line. Yes,
John C. Dvorak: because it works. You got punch line mania?
Adam Curry: That's exactly it. It's because it works. The I
mean, there was an interview in the Macy's the daily No, not the
mail.
There was an interview with Google
muckety muck. I'm trying to find his name now. I'm sorry. I
thought it was better prepared than that. With the UK
publication. And he was asked a question. It says Google's Oh,
Google's devices chief. Okay, Chief of devices over at Google.
Thanks, BBC. Great reporting. I'm sure that's his title, Chief
devices. After being challenged as to whether homeowners should
tell guests that smart devices such as the Google nest speaker,
or Amazon Echo display are in use before they enter the
building. He concludes the answer is indeed Yes. He says,
gosh, I haven't thought about that that way in quite that way
before. Rick apostolic that's his name. It's quite important
for all these technologies to think about all users we have to
consider all stakeholders that might be in proximity. Well, he
says I think you probably should tell guests before they come
into your house that you are being listened to by Google and
Amazon Hello Oh, a moment of clarity you know he'll be ex
chief of devices if he keeps that up very sad news about
Apple Safari browser
John C. Dvorak: will before you go on so maybe we should have
some countermeasures as as pedestrians wandering into
someone's house there's a lot of people that have these devices
so yeah and when you see whatever house you walk into
know what the devices are and it's just randomly send them
some commands.
Adam Curry: Well, how do you do that?
John C. Dvorak: Hello Google then you just tell the race my
phone Oh, no, no Google No. factory standard now
Adam Curry: that's a that's not going to work. Be that is not
going to embarrass your host. Here's what you do. Hey, Google,
look up some but porn now that now that will embarrass your
host and that will make them think twice about it.
John C. Dvorak: That what would you do with the Alexa? Hey,
Alexa?
Adam Curry: How much how much is but porn this week in the MSA?
You can just keep just do say horrible things.
You should. You shouldn't well, you should
on iOS. And this is very disturbing. I've always thought
and I have more disturbing news really about Apple. I've always
kind of considered Apple to be reasonably okay with privacy for
their customers. You know, think about what they what they do
when they don't want and not since they make a big deal of it
for sure.
John C. Dvorak: They talk a big game they told us they try.
Adam Curry: One of the I'm reading here from I don't know
what this article is. It's been discovered that apple which of
course often positions itself as a champion and privacy of human
rights, is sending some IP addresses from users of its
Safari browser on iOS, that's your iPad and your iPhone to
Chinese conglomerate Tencent. And Apple admits it does send
some user IP addresses ie who you are where you are connected
your address of connection, which can tell you a lot about a
person if their IP address stays consistent. Apple admits it
sends some user IP addresses to 10 cent in the about Safari and
Privacy section of its settings. And that's under the title
fraudulent website warning. Here's where it gets
interesting. Before visiting a website, Safari may send
information calculated from the website address to Google Safe
Browsing, and 10 cent Safe Browsing to check if the website
is fraudulent.
This disqualifies Apple completely, completely,
especially sending it to Google entered into the shiners.
I find endless. No one's really saying much about it. I guess
everyone loves it. I find that no one says
John C. Dvorak: anything about it because nobody nowadays and
nobody cares what's going on. They're just clueless. Oh, new
phone. Let's unbox it right.
Adam Curry: So there is a new OTG phone on the way to me. It
is loaded with the follow up to Copperhead OS, which is my
something with it am I forget what it is. And I was reading
through the documentation, one of our producers are sending it
to me so I can test it out. Here's something I overlooked
with the whole. Don't be tracked. And don't be annoyed
that now this this operating system is a complete hardened,
no Google Android, that is just Android. Nothing that has Google
on it is in there. But it does something that I had not
considered that you cannot block. At least you cannot block
it on any type of operating system except for this one. And
that is that the apps communicate with each other all
the time. And this is not disclosed. It's not really
discussed. And so this operating system has network switches that
you can determine by each individual app should you choose
to use apps. But in general, it's a complete Google free
hardened lockdown it changes your MAC address. So that's your
physical network card address randomly on every connection
saying Yeah, same for the cellular MAC address. So it does
a lot of these things. And I'm going to be trying it out to see
I think it may be a very good replacement for my from my
current iPhone hardened iPhone five, and I'll be reporting on
that. But I didn't even consider how much Just going on under the
hood, what these apps are talking to each other
consistently and constantly. So hopefully this will be and this
will be something that you could load on your phone to. And it
uses F droid for its applications. So these are
complete Google free, all open source source code available. I
think they use K nine mail as the mail client. And I've used
that before. And that may be a good way to not be tracked. And
of course, because it's not an official operating system
supported by a big company, nor are the apps it'll be so shit to
use, you won't want to, which is the whole point. You don't want
to use anything on your phone, do it on your computer at home,
that's fine. And don't let anybody track you. That's not
healthy.
And that's my OTG report for today. That's good enough.
John C. Dvorak: All right. Well, my phone's off, it's in the
drawer. Yeah, but
Adam Curry: when you turn it back on, it sends all that
information over to Google and Tencent and who knows what else
John C. Dvorak: I load this new thing on there. I'm good with
it. Yeah,
Adam Curry: you know your flash ROM Yeah, well, I
John C. Dvorak: don't know.
Adam Curry: That's what you gotta do you got to flash the
ROM to do it.
John C. Dvorak: I love to flash the ROM
Unknown: Yes, and
John C. Dvorak: here's a good i gotta say, you know, this firing
of this Ukrainian ambassador, the first one, you know, the
woman this thing has been getting on my nerves because
there's a disinformation is being lost in the shuffle here.
And here's one of the clip I have is this is brooks of Brooks
and shield. You know, the two guys in this particular episode,
which was last Friday. The two of them went on. I agree with
him. Oh, I agree with him. I agree with you. I agree with you
more than like Chippendale these two. Yeah. So this is Brooks on
Ukraine firing.
Unknown: I mean, every day, it's a blizzard of something. The
Ivanovic thing today. It made me think like how many other people
are involved in this because to fire an ambassador, you can't
just do it president to Ambassador the whole senior
echelon of the State Department has to be involved in some way,
in the firing of a credible, competent ambassador for
political reasons. I mean, how often does that happen without
with no resignations, and in normal administration, you get a
bunch of resignations from with that would ever happen.
Adam Curry: Please,
John C. Dvorak: thank you. First of all, the woman was part she
did her. Most of these ambassadors. If you look over
the list of all ambassadors, they've all they all stay in
office about three to four years max, yeah, they gotta get about
three, three and a half years and she was at the end of her
term. But more importantly, is an article that I pulled down
from David Brooks is full of crap. It is another lie. On
Unknown: Friday,
John C. Dvorak: January 20 2017. In this was a report on the day
before that, before Trump's inauguration headline. Donald
Trump has fired all US foreign ambassadors who had nobody to
replace them, right? Yeah, the day before he got inaugurated he
fired all the ambassadors and now they do article which is in
the debate in the independent UK publication. They bitch and moan
about the fact that well, this happens all the time but and
they usually set these guys up for the three and three to four
year period. So it's it's going to happen to the next guy when
he gets in. And apparently everybody does this and but they
usually have somebody in mind and fill the jobs normally
patronage, a big donor, a big donor, a big donor goes here,
big donor goes there, like the one of the one of the Barzun, I
think was a guy who was England, he quit like a week before. He
was the he was a big donor of package or a bundler for Obama,
and he quit like a week before Trump got in. But they all did
except just one woman. She stuck around for some reason she never
quit, she finally quit. And when her term was kind of up in May,
it wasn't like he just fired her last week, which would everyone
wants to think this is really poorly done in terms of like
execution.
Adam Curry: It's, it's just untruthful. And no, it's just
not so long. I don't know if these guys are lying or they're
just stupid. But everybody knows how ambassadorships work. That's
exactly the point. And then to say, oh, no, the whole State
Department has to wait. You know, this is a career
politician, please. She was apparently looking. Trolling
social media, making sure that no one was saying anything bad
and which the Republicans and Fox News called spying but it's
just the whole thing. Um, so I don't want to talk about Ukraine
because it's meaningless. It doesn't mean anything. It's,
it's just want to get impeachment going. And we're
right back at the beginning of the show where we started.
That's all.
John C. Dvorak: There's another live stream of news As I was
pointing out earlier, which is these untold news stories, you
know, that we do aren't really getting a lot of play like
Mexico going from marijuana. Yeah, I want to bounce a little
bit with them with some American stories that are seemingly even
more important. Okay. And you have to listen to this. This is
Savannah Guthrie and Hoda. Talking about poor Matt Lauer
and the fact that he bought rape, some woman that used to
work at NBC, and this is the big news at NBC.
Adam Curry: You're always so nuanced for for 12 years now,
Unknown: don't you guys have ever felt like that? You know,
so?
Adam Curry: Wow, what happened there?
I think something was wrong with the beginning your clip, but it
starts here, I guess,
Unknown: like we owe it to our viewers to pause for a moment.
You know, this is shocking, and clear. And I honestly don't even
know what to say about it. I want to say that we I know it
wasn't easy for our colleague book to come forward, then. It's
not easy now. And we support her and any women who have come
forward with claims. And it's just very painful for all of us
at NBC and who aren't at the Today Show. And when, you know,
it's very, very, very difficult.
I'm looking at you and I'm having a weird moment that we
were sitting here just like this two years ago. And truth be told
Savannah and I did a little prayer upstairs just afford just
to sort of sort out what we were going to do. And I think it's
it's like you feel like you've known someone for for 12 years.
And I don't know if you guys have ever felt like that you
know, someone you know them, you feel like you know them inside
and out. And then all of a sudden, like a door opens up.
And it's a part of them. You didn't know. And we don't know
all the facts and all of this. But there are not allegations of
an affair. There are allegations of a crime. And I think that's
shocking to all of us here who've sat with Matt for many,
many years. So I think we're gonna just sort of continue to
process this part of this horrific story. And as you said,
you know, our thoughts are with Brooke, that's not easy what she
did to come forward. It's not easy at all.
And I think I speak for all of us were disturbed in our core.
Yeah. And we have a commitment to keep you informed and we
will.
Adam Curry: If I'm, if I may
1 of all they are our pawns in this game. They're being told to
focus entirely on Matt Lauer. And not on the actual issue at
hand. Last night Megyn Kelly, I did not clip it but she showed
up for a shoe like half of the show. Tucker Carlson Tonight, by
the way, Megan Kelly, back to short hair looks dynamite. Just
I mean and the Evans showed some old clips of her at her daytime
show at NBC and miss you just look it's Megan you know, she's
like wow, this is and she's think she's 48 Almost 50 just
fabulous. Looks great, looks happy. And she's on the warpath
and what she's saying is and this of course is only being
discussed now because of Ronan Farrow's book which I have not
read I have ordered it which really go which, you know,
busted open this, this rape, the story about this rape, but Megyn
Kelly's issue and I think it's a valid one to look at this exact
She's exactly what she said. She said look many times. This
happened at Fox with Roger Ailes. Independent outside
investigation happened over at NPR in the me to movement
independent outside investigation happened at PBS
independent, although rigged, outside investigation to get rid
of Tavis Smiley, CBS, Les Moonves Charlie, Charlie, it's
in your DNA. Rose, Charlie Rose, external investigation, NBC,
internal investigation, nothing to see here. It's all good.
These women are going to be very, very, very upset. When it
turns out that they knew this to NBC News knew about this, the
boss's knew about it. They were covering up for Harvey Weinstein
because they didn't want the lid to blow off of it, which of
course was to protect their star anchor Matt Lauer, NBC, not only
should they be ashamed of themselves, they should be they
should start with their own investigation from outside the
company have an independent person come in and then really
say okay, nothing to see here. I think this is just the tip of
the iceberg and it is much worse and I bet these were Men were
harassed by Matt Lauer or others as well.
John C. Dvorak: I'm sure they were but this brings us to the
credit to Chris Hayes rant.
Adam Curry: Oh, brother, you
John C. Dvorak: got one of those two beautiful well here, Chris
Hayes. This is I think, a career killer, or should be, yeah. But
he Chris Hayes decides that he's going to chime in on this. And
first of all, he may be thinks he can get away with like,
somehow, he blames Trump a little bit, he comes up with
some bullshit theme. But then he goes into it. He blames NBC for
this cover up because I guess he was good pals with Ronan.
Unknown: After a single tweet in support of the Hong Kong
protesters by Houston Rockets executive the NBA has scrambled
to lock down any other signs of criticism of the Chinese
government, hoping to preserve access to an extremely lucrative
and growing market for the sport. Now, of course, this kind
of shying away from confrontation choosing the path
of least resistance, quite familiar in the news, because
it's what so many Republican members of Congress do every day
when confronted with the bile bigotry and rank corruption,
abuse of power for the man who is the head of their party. But
it's important to note that it is not limited to them. In fact,
the insidious destructive force of the path of least resistance
is everywhere you look back, I feel the tug of it myself as my
own news organisation is embroiled in a very public
controversy over its conduct. As you've probably seen, in his new
book, catch and kill my former colleague Ronan Farrow, contends
that NBC News slow walked and then ultimately killed his
reporting on Harvey Weinstein sexual harassment and assault
because it was intimidated by Weinstein and didn't want to
cross him. most distressing Lee Farrell suggests NBC News was
worried about the allegations of sexual assault and harassment
against Matt Lauer coming out as a result of reporting on
Weinstein and desperately wanted to avoid that. In Pharaoh's
view. He was unable to break through what was effectively a
conspiracy of silence from NBC News management. Now, NBC News
Adam Curry: account the president sorry say what?
John C. Dvorak: smacks his lips every time he goes through a new
paragraph.
Adam Curry: It is annoying, and Pharaohs but not the only thing
annoying. Oh, shoot. I'm sorry about that. Somehow the clip
dumped out.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I'm just not
Unknown: the least resistance is everywhere you look back. I feel
the tug of it myself as my own news organisation is embroiled
in a very public controversy over its conduct. As you've
probably seen, in his new book, catch and kill my former
colleague Ronan Farrow, contends that NBC News slow walked and
then ultimately killed his reporting on Harvey Weinstein
sexual harassment and assault because it was intimidated by
Weinstein and didn't want to cross him. Most distressingly,
Farrell suggests NBC News was worried about the allegations of
sexual assault and harassment against Matt Lauer coming out as
a result of reporting on Weinstein and desperately wanted
to avoid that, in Pharaoh's view, he was unable to break
through what was effectively a conspiracy of silence from NBC
News management. Now, NBC News vigorously denies this account.
The president of NBC News no Oppenheim called Farrell's book
a conspiracy theory and a memo sent out today, citing an
internal NBC investigation that concluded that the extremely
upsetting allegations against Lauer were not known internally
at NBC, and the scene is called any suggestion it did no false
and offensive. And Oppenheim and others have also maintained
since Pharaoh's departure two years ago, the Weinstein story
was never broadcast because it lacks efficient on the record
sourcing, even after NBC supported Pharaohs assignment
for seven months. One thing though, is indisputable. Ronan
Farrow walked out of NBC News after working on the Weinstein
story and within two months, published an incredible article,
The New Yorker that not only won a Pulitzer, but helped trigger a
massive social and cultural reckoning that continues to this
day. It is the kind of journalism that you want to do
as a journalist, that everyone who works in this business
should want to facilitate. Of course, there's a reason it took
so long for the true story about Weinstein to be told, for the
many allegations of him to stay locked in a vault. And that's
because time and again, the path of least resistance for those
with power was to not cross Weinstein or his army of friends
and lawyers. Same goes for the many, many, many other powerful
predators that we've come to know about. The path of least
resistance is always there. beckoning seductively with an
entirely plausible cover story, you've got bigger fish to fry,
this is the hill to die on, the story isn't ready. But of
course, the very ease of that path that makes it the enemy,
the kind of work that we as journalists are supposed to do.
Adam Curry: Sounds like
John C. Dvorak: this thing is chickened out with this cult
with this path of least resistance thesis. But it's
still pretty, pretty rude if I was the head of news at the
company and if you assume they are the douchebags they are
which is obvious. I'd be very
Adam Curry: close. No,
John C. Dvorak: I disagree. You think it was a setup? So yeah,
look Oh yeah, a weak weak last Whopper real
Adam Curry: but that's why you know hey, we've got to do
something official. We've got it we've got to show that we're
that we have intact we have Tegrity we got to show we got
Tegrity How do we do that? Well, let's not use Rachel. We don't
want to brush merch her with any of this. No, she has to stay
pristine. She's our star can't do that. Okay. How about the
other lesbian? Yeah, well give it to him. No one cares about
him. Let him do it.
Do they didn't put this on prime time. Chris Hayes is not prime
time. Chris Hayes.
John C. Dvorak: I'm gonna dispute the possibility that
that thinking existed. I just. I'm hoping it didn't.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm hoping that a lot more comes out the
NBC is it? It's no secret. What goes on in media companies.
You've worked in them? I've worked in them. But what was
going on at NBC? With management on top of all this knowing about
it? That's that's really pretty inexcusable.
And heads will roll.
Yeah, yeah, you're right. Probably not.
Unknown: I'm gonna show my school by donation to no agenda.
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John C. Dvorak: We do have a few people to shake Shanks for show.
Adam Curry: I'm going to show thank you for your donation. Let
me shake your
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Aussie dollar ruse. Actually. $154.47 Can you believe that?
Yeah. 150 Okay. This will make me a night of the best podcast
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John C. Dvorak: No. And I'm gonna do name Ben and enjoy.
What it says,
Adam Curry: oh, man, do you think he sent more? And let me
just see Kenyan let me see if I got anything
Unknown: from him in the email.
John C. Dvorak: They do have his title there as Yeah, no,
Adam Curry: I got his I got his title. But I know I don't see
any email from so maybe that was just it. Let me read. I'm a dude
named Ben and enjoy. Well, thank you, Jake Kirby. And we'll be
looking forward to bringing you up to the roundtable in just
minutes from now.
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Adam Curry: Also, birthday she's
John C. Dvorak: got a birthday shout out there's another name I
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Adam Curry: kiss off. That's all kiss alphas sounds like a
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his first trip around the sun October 14. Maybe he was just
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John C. Dvorak: Jamie Christian sons $60.23. Jason.
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It says tip balm and then I look over system tip comb. And
Adam Curry: that's that's Eric the shill having fun with us.
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Adam Curry: That's right. Oh, that's v k three Fng 73k A five
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50 and the following donors are all $50 donors and not a big
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Timmons and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. It's got some sort of
birthday thing and it Oh, it is going to Cassidy's knighthood.
Adam Curry: Let's see this is for Cassidy Eastwood's
knighthood for a birthday of donated $50 towards Cassidy's
donation. Total 1014 19, which is also her birthday. Okay. She
is all about hitting people in the mouth as I often have
conversations with her about jumping others and hitting them
in the mouth. She's a great planner speaking which she also
has been pretty active in Oklahoma City meetups as well,
which is awesome. Anyway, I feel like my $50 isn't enough and I
am poor. So Could someone maybe help out and get this no agenda
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I love the dame drive. It's nice. We're getting the days.
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Unknown: Game Drive. Game Drive.
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Adam Curry: Oh, no. I guess that was his 50 for himself and 50
for Cassie. Well, then, yeah. Yeah, good enough.
John C. Dvorak: And also Scott lavender. Another lavender guy,
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Brad Taylor and Duvall, Washington. Want to thank all
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we get another show coming up on Sunday. Don't forget us.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. Well, instead of that, I'd say
remember us that might stick a little longer. But yes, please
do and thank you to the people who supported us today
shortlist. Luckily, we had a great executive producer ship
come in Insta Dame Insta night. We do hope that you consider our
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Did you get anything out of it? What would you spend your time
on? What would that have cost? What is your time worth to you?
That's all we ask for some, it's a couple pennies for some it's a
couple dollars for some it's 10 Whatever it is, that's what we
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You can find out more at borak.org/yes. Some
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma
is nothing like?
Adam Curry: Yes, today being the 17th of October 2019. We do have
a few people on the birthday list to congratulate Laura
Wilson says Happy Birthday to Tim White in Lee's Summit,
Missouri he turned 50 on the 14th of October. This van puffle
says Happy Birthday to OutKast alphas also celebrated on the
14th and David Timmons says Happy Birthday to Cassidy
eastward of Oklahoma City. We say happy birthday from
everybody here the best podcast in the universe. Know what? It's
like a pot Yes, on the meetup list, we're gonna run through it
real quick. We've got quite a lot we have this coming
Saturday, Santa and Toby and Tobio San Antonio October meetup
530. That'll be Andrew white organising that also on the 19th
Santa Fe New Mexico at two o'clock with Dame Heather
Heather of the Lost Boys. She says meet at the baker room.
Saturday Atlanta, Georgia local 4043 33 Eastern Daylight Time
Hudson grill, Alicia Carr noose. Cairo noose Corinthos is your
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space at Monique beer company sir mittens of fall city
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organising for you. Friday the 25th Oregon local 33 Portland
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Smokehouse Tim your executive producer from Episode 962 Is
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because of short notice. Only myself and douchebag Brigadier
Bradshaw were in attendance. Aside from the small number of
people present we feel it was a very successful meet up with
hours of discussion about smartphones, zombies, douchebag,
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John C. Dvorak: well, I'm picking it off. So while you're
coughing Yes, I got a couple more clips. To get out of here
with Okay, first of all get back to American news. The big
scandal, of course, was this video that was shown to Five
Guys in a closet. And I guess one of the guys was triggered by
it. I don't
Adam Curry: know anything about this story. What video this is
news to me. Oh,
John C. Dvorak: there was a you liked the movie? Kingsman. I,
oh, yes, yeah, yeah, like the one enters your church scene.
This is actually the video I think it was produced and put
out on there.
Adam Curry: I've seen this vid. Now I know what video you're
talking about. Yeah, it's been around. It's not new. So that so
they took the scene, the church scene from the King's Men, where
a lot of people got get killed in horrific ways. And they
posted mainstream guy, mainstream media logos on the
victims. Yes,
John C. Dvorak: yeah. And a couple of politicians. It's an
outrage scandal. They don't know what to do with but grounds for
impeachment to ice, of course. And we do have one of the local
news stations that covered it for a minute and a 46 is
actually a long report. Wow. And then you can't really show much
of the video because it's pretty violent. Yes, too harsh on the
eyeballs. But here's the report on the violent video show you
all keep up
Unknown: and now on to a shocking, violent and quite
frankly offensive video surfacing in the New York Times
report. They say this video depicting the president shooting
and stabbing opponents and media outlets was shown at Trump
throughout last week.
The president's son Donald Trump, Jr. was at that event and
now we're hearing from him.
Let's get right to low times. Amy Viteri in the newsroom with
that video that's receiving wide condemnation on social media
Amy,
but Louis the video which was reportedly not shown in the main
ballroom spoofs the scene from a movie and shows the president
shooting his critics and the press. Now here is the video
that is being shared on social media. It is a doctored version
of a scene from the movie Kingsman, starring Colin Firth.
The President space is superimposed over Firth's
character as he shoots and stabs those with superimposed media
outlet logos and some Democratic members of Congress such as
Maxine Waters, who you saw there a couple moments ago. At one
point, the late Senator John McCain is depicted being
stabbed. Now the White House Correspondents Association, also
commenting on the video in a statement saying all Americans
should condemn this depiction of violence directed toward
journalists in the President's political opponents. We call on
everybody to denounce this video and affirm that violence has no
place in our society. A spokesman for Donald Jr. told
The New York Times quote, Dawn hasn't seen the video and was
unaware of its existence until the recent media reports about
it. But he strongly condemns the type of disgusting and graphic
violence purported to be depicted in the video against
members of the media, regardless of political party, we should
all reject any and all violence in our politics, whether it's
directed toward members of the media, politicians, the family
members of politicians or political activists. The
President's reelection campaign says the video was not produced
by the campaign and that they do not condone violence Louis you
know,
Adam Curry: that was talking about our value for value model.
And you know, what, what is the time that that we entertained
you're informed you What is it worth to you? And this is a
minute and 4646 seconds that I mean, we'll never get that back.
Is that is the first of all the videos a year old said Doctor
it's doctored it's violent no one no one had a problem with
the with the movie where they were killing churchgoer
John C. Dvorak: time. God, that is the point I'm want to make.
How come the actual movie itself which is in crave it's funny,
violent? Violent? Yes. Nobody says Jack about that. No. And
then nobody said anything about the orange bullets. You
Adam Curry: You have to wear your cue glasses. You can't you
can't understand the bullets. The orange bullets don't work
unless you got cue vision. This neat the you know, it won't take
much longer. But the only loser right now is the mainstream
media. The mainstream news has lost all credibility. It will
not matter. You see the ratings the way they are now. It's only
going to get less it will no longer be profitable. I'm still
kind of thankful that Mike the my pillow guy is keeping Tucker
Carlson on the air. I think he has interesting guests. You
know, that's always fun to watch.
John C. Dvorak: Because did you see when Trump was in Minnesota
he called out Mike because I guess Mike's up in that area. Do
Mike is in the audience
Adam Curry: and Mike is an American hero.
John C. Dvorak: So he calls him out and he goes on and on about
how what a great advertising the guy really knows how to buy ads.
Adam Curry: What he does is all over the fox has been so deep
platformed particularly Tucker Carlson. I'm surprised he's on
the air at all. But yeah, I think I think Mike the my pillow
guy is and it's a long spot. It's I think two and a half
minute spot. It runs every commercial break. That's all
they got. It's terrible. But this is gross. They don't even
understand what they're doing. We are the future of news. And
why are we the future of news? I'll tell you why. Because we
have boots on the ground worldwide. Last night, we did
another NAMS prep net. If you want to join those, and you're a
ham radio operator, join the NAMS. That's NAMS and AMS, short
for no agenda, hams. Go to K five acc.com. To find out how
you can get on the All Star link network. There's always 10 to 15
hams who are checking in we have multiple truck drivers, we got
all kinds of cool reports and people talking amongst
themselves. This is all this is all something that the
mainstream can no longer do. They don't regard the audience
as a part of the process. If you want any secret about
podcasting, please take it from us. You want to involve your
audience. And it's and don't use words like engagement hubs. It's
no, we have producers 1000s of them. They happen to be the
people who listen, they have they have a stake in the game.
This is their show. They finance it, they produce it. They help
with stories, they help with background with information,
lots of expertise. That's what the mainstream is losing out on
and they're going to this just a big circle jerk everywhere.
There's mainstream, certainly mainstream news. And it's going
to end it'll just it will eventually just go away and
they'll be going like will happen. Boom. Instead, we should
get some subsidies of some cylinders.
John C. Dvorak: Right? That's what's gonna happen. That's what
happens in Canada. Right now. They're pushing for subsidies
because they can't carry the load. Did you see that? You
didn't say skin in the game. By the way. That phrase really irks
me.
Adam Curry: I stayed away from that. Senator Senator Blumenthal
had something to say about journalists. And I'm just
wondering if he really wants to include this in his new
protected class. He has a bill in that is going to protect
journos.
Unknown: We know from the incidents that have occurred in
the past. And in fact, some of these attacks on journalists
have been fatal, that there is a segment of the population that
feels antipathy toward the press that they express verbally in
threats and also at the extreme physically in direct attacks on
the press. So what we have to address is the continuing threat
of physical violence, whether by guns or other means against the
press that may intimidate them in their vital newsgathering
operation. It is a priority for me to protect newsgathering
operations, no matter what their form, okay, and the act that
we're proposing would in fact, establish a federal crime when
someone threatens or attacks any one doing fact gathering or news
operations. That is the purpose of this bill, it would be
punishable, if it's bodily injury by up to three years
serious bodily injury by up to six years and a fine and
newsgathering is broadly defined to include book writing
magazine. Obviously, photography, any kind of media
that involves communication with the public.
Adam Curry: Hey, man back off. I'm an Instagram influencer. I
take photographs on protected.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, hold on a second. This is interesting,
because there's a number of areas where if you're taking
photographs, the cops will come over and bash in the head.
That's
Adam Curry: right, and then they can go to jail for three years.
Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: this will be there's gonna have to deal with
that. I had to look at this bill when they finalise it. Yeah, you
Adam Curry: know, that annoys me so much this. I'm always seeing
announcements of bills. I saw the Maxine Waters, has announced
the bill. It's gone to committee, so we're not allowed
to see the text yet which will end homelessness. I know.
Speaking of which, and this will be my last for today. We have
another big meeting here in the hamlet of Austin, Texas. We
pretend to be a big ass city, but we're really just a bunch of
country bumpkins here in The Hamlet, and with a lot of lip
Joes running around. So tonight on the docket once again is the
conversation of whether we should rescind and reject and
overturn and reinstate the no camping no lie ban so that we
don't drown in faeces and needles. Like some other places
we know this has to happen before November 1, otherwise the
governor of Texas has said, Oh come in. In fact, it was a big
story last night.
Unknown: Greg Abbott says he is not bluffing. He says if the
city doesn't reverse course, major state agencies will move
into Austin November 1. To clean up areas of town where homeless
people camp will include DPS
troopers transportation and state health services. KX as
political reporter Phil praising is back with an interview you'll
only see here on KX I spent three days in Dallas, Texas the
past few days. In cover almost every area of downtown Dallas,
there was not one person out camping out one person laying on
the street, no faeces on the ground. They have more homeless
in Dallas than they have in Austin, Texas, because they have
an orderly process. They go about making sure that the the
what's going on downtown Austin has not taken place in downtown
Dallas, they have more than enough money to solve the
problems they just need to step up and address it and show
leadership. Second thing then they should do is stop their
hypocrisy. Why did they set one rule for the homeless to be able
to roam around any place they want to? But they say oh no, not
at City Hall. If they really care about the homeless, the
first thing the city of Austin should do is to say the City
Hall is the place you should come to lie around City Hall
come inside as opposed to been exposed to the heat or the cold
outside come inside City Hall. You need access to running water
come inside City Hall user water user plumbing sleep in our
parking garage often needs to stop the hypocrisy
Adam Curry: of them's fighting words. Yeah, them's fighting
words from from Governor Abbott. I think there's there's there's
another piece of evidence that came across across my desk from
our producers. that disturbs me a bit as this may be what's
going on in Austin is I don't it may not it may only may be
specific to Austin. So while all this is playing out, while we
have the only solution to the homelessness problem, according
to the Seattle county council, our leaders as we call them in
Austin leaders, oh leader, or leader Adler please tell me is
to build more affordable housing. And we have a vote
coming up on on voting day Election Day. I don't think
we're voting or I wouldn't vote for any officials. But we do
have a proposition. And there's one thing that's been on, I've
seen it on the on the ballot, at least three years is seeing this
John C. Dvorak: coming. Go on.
Adam Curry: It's called Code next. And code encode next is a
complete it's failed the two previous years. But now I see
the signs in the yard again code Next we need code next. And it
sounds kind of cool if she didn't want code next. Code.
Next is a complete rezoning redistricting redistricting plan
for the city of Austin. Here's the troubling part. So they say
we don't have enough middle housing, whatever that means, as
I guess you've got the downtown, you have kind of in the centre,
you've got your apartment buildings and your condos, and
then you move out. And on the edges way on the edges. You've
got single family homes, and in the middle, you've got all this
other stuff. And the zoning has already had already been
changed. As I think we've talked about when the keeper and I were
looking for a house, you'd find that there's a rezoning has
already taken place in Austin, where you can put two homes in
their own little mini homeowner's association. So
they're connected by one wall or maybe a common roof or a garage.
And so then you can build two homes on a lot intended for a
single home code next, actually would make single family home
lots
a thing of history in Austin.
And in the corridors that they've outlined on the map the
transition zones and corridors, whatever that means, is
basically everywhere. missing middle housing will be zoned by
allowing for single family home lots to contain buildings that
can house up to four families and can be 60 feet high and can
take up to two five
watts.
So they want to completely overpopulate all of the
surrounding areas of Austin, under the auspices of we need
affordable housing and you know, of course is what's going to
happen with that it's not going to go to any homeless people.
But all of Austin could be these horrible for plexes you know,
try flexes and fourplexes
John C. Dvorak: flexes are fine if they're here and there. This
isn't this part of agenda 21 or so. process where they're trying
to eliminate single home owners in the United States can order
your home Italy
Adam Curry: totally part of that. Absolutely. Yeah. And
John C. Dvorak: this is just a scheme to start that process. So
screw you homeowners, if you have a home too bad they can
forcibly
Adam Curry: make you change. You know, if you're at home is X
amount of years old, you know, there's all these, you will not
be able to buy a house, which I'm okay with, you know, people
who buy a teardown job, even if and there's a lot of teardown
situations in Austin, we've got a lot of these older homes from
the turn of the century. And you know, you if the land is much
more valuable than the home, you won't be able to tear that down,
unless you're going to build a triplex or quad Plex. And this
is going to ruin the character of Austin. And it's just going
to house you know, tech workers. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: tech workers, tech workers are probably the
worst, because they're just like busy bees, and they'll just move
into overpriced apartments and shit. There's a couple of
operations in San Francisco where there's 10 people and you
know, 10 people living in a small space with special bunk
beds all set up. Yeah, only costs $1,000 a month.
Adam Curry: But I'm kind of connecting these two and I feel
that they're trying to hold off on this because they want to
possibly, because you know, again, code Nexus failed in how
about voting? No. Well, no, but I think they're going to try it.
What I think we'll find out tonight tonight, we have another
the big Council city meeting. I think what they may be trying to
do is to say, you know, we really want to build affordable
housing, but we can't we got to zone it. You got to vote yes.
For code. Next. I'm telling you, this has come these guys are so
cynically evil. I would I wouldn't put it past on that.
That's what's going on.
In the meantime,
we got poop on the streets, as some people have boots on the
ground. We got poop on the ground. As a Governor Abbott
said, and we'll see what he does. And we'll see what happens
tonight. I will have a report on Sunday show. Sounds good to me.
John C. Dvorak: Well, one last tip before we leave Sure let's
do it. Okay, I have there's something us extinction
rebellion and one of the big bitches and moans that went on
about the debates you've heard on Democracy Now. They brought
on expert after expert moaning and groaning about how none of
the questioners asked anything about climate change, which is
really the most important topic. I mean, it's an existential
threat. How could we see an existential threat so the
existence rebellion people, and I'm gonna ask is just a
rhetorical question, what is the deal with dragging boats through
the street, and then propping up someplace in the middle of town?
They did it in London, and they've done it in New York. And
so I have a this is the XR protest in New York City with a
person a young woman who goes on and on about all how she's gonna
die.
Unknown: protesters were arrested Thursday after shutting
down an intersection in the heart of Times Square is part of
a climate action organised by extinction rebellion.
My name is Isabel. I'm a student at NYU. And I'm incredibly
scared at the state of our world. And we're in the middle
of a sixth mass extinction. And we have to act now. Clearly,
just posting on Facebook and tweeting about it is not
creating any change. And the only way to create change is to
start business as usual. leaders listen and create policies and
green new deals.
Adam Curry: Say green new deals, plural need more than one green
New Deal?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, green new deals, use plural. And we're all
gonna die. This he's at NYU. I mean, what are the students?
What are these students being taught at the colleges today?
Adam Curry: Well, this morning I got I saw some video from
London. The Londoners are tired of the extinction rebellion.
People who have of course been lying on top of the subway
trains and, and other trains. Now the public has taken over
they just they're ripping these people down. It's beautiful to
watch. And the crowd is cheering i Yeah, Harry, get off of there.
You're morons, because they're holding up traffic like die on
your own time with your extinction, rebellion. Poof, so
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Three. And coming to you from opportunity's own 33 here on the
frontier of Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C. Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we say go
Brexit. I'm Johnson.
Adam Curry: Special thanks to Tom Starkweather Jesse Coyne
Nelson Lee Oh, le puke for our inner show mixes until Sunday,
everybody until then. Adios, mofos photos, and such.
Unknown: Raise your hands. Yes.
So if you're asking me,
I don't need lessons from you on courage
completely despicable.
John C. Dvorak: Senator Warren, I just want to say that I was
surprised to hear that you did not agree with me. I got votes
for that bill.
Unknown: If all we could do is take their money we should be
ashamed about. Well, first of all, let
me say this. Senator Sanders is right. I am not going to give
these police officers another reason to go door to door in
certain communities.
Adam Curry: And we're not stopping there. How many of you
have noticed stores closing where you work and live here in
Ohio? Raise your hands. Guess what?
Unknown: You are making Republican talking points right
now in this room.
You make it to the top, the top 1/10 of 1%. Then pitch in two
cents
demonising Well, what I've talked about is how you get
things done.
Adam Curry: But I want to give a reality check here to Elizabeth
when we're talking about him. We are losing. We need to present a
new vision and that even includes talking about
impeaching Donald Trump.
Unknown: What we have to do now is focus on Donald Trump. He
doesn't want me to be the candidate. He's going after me
because he knows if I get if I get the nomination, I will beat
him like a drum. We heard it tonight.
Adam Curry: A yes or no question that didn't get a yes or no
answer. That's a mischaracterization and it's not
gonna answer this
Unknown: I'm gonna say something that is probably going to offend
some people here but start the music thing go bing bing bing
bing bing bing and baby being the biggest
John C. Dvorak: show that I should use begin from now that
real quick I gotta check this piece of crap out it's a scam
abuse me I should use the brain. Let me switch to being my
switching to being this I'm really switching today. I'm
going to being a baby. Being that
Unknown: was some weird shit
Adam Curry: MoPhO boruch.org/in A.
Unknown: This is shameful