Adam Curry: Wasn't there a pillow on his head? Adam curry
Jhansi Devorah next Thursday, August 15 2019. This is your
award winning combination media assassination episode 1164 is no
agenda. Adjusting the algos tweaking the trailers and
broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas
Capitol dome Star State in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley I'm John
C. Devorah.
Unknown: Raglan Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: Yes, you are John C. Dvorak without
John C. Dvorak: shooting in Philadelphia. Now the crazy
shooting and feeling oh, wait a minute, just a bunch of cops
over shot. So nevermind.
Adam Curry: You know, the problem with that shooting in
Philadelphia, don't you
John C. Dvorak: have more than one problem? What's the problem
that you saw?
Adam Curry: Well, I didn't see it, but I'm pretty sure the
shooter wasn't white. And that's a problem.
John C. Dvorak: For news reporting. Okay, this brings us
to the clip.
Adam Curry: The bonus. The bonus clip, the bonus bonus
John C. Dvorak: clip. Yes. When when CBS played this on on the
morning show, they said and then the the I guess the shooter was
then surrendered. And then they showed a white guy coming out of
the building. People should go look at this clip on CBS This
Morning. It's on the CBS news site right now.
Adam Curry: But what was that the guy? Was that? Was that the
guy?
John C. Dvorak: No, it was one of the hostages. God?
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: Yes. They said, I watched it a couple of times.
I said, Oh, this guy's a freak. It's like some white guy with a
long one of those long go T's bald head kind of a creepy
looking guy coming out and I said, Oh God, what a creep. And
so he's coming out and then then later in this thing when they
show the guy when they showed him at the hospital at the
hospital or something that's the shooter or they showed a bunch
of people the hospital they had one guy in cuffs, who was a
black guy says wait a minute, wasn't the shooter a white guy
and so I looked up the shooter by name I would image search and
there it was. It was a black guy. Yeah, that is CBS. I'm
telling you if you didn't know wow, you were tricked by CBS to
make you think it was a white another white nut.
This clip we play it now. Yes, you're playing long
Unknown: standoff that paralyzed to Philadelphia neighborhood is
over. After the man accused of wounding six police officers and
shooting repeatedly at others surrendered overnight. His name
Maurice Hill, 36 years old walked out of his home where he
barricaded himself holding his hands in the air
police fire when officers came to the house with a warrant. Two
officers and three hostages were trapped inside for about five
hours until a SWAT team rescued them. CTM national correspondent
Yurika Duncan is at the scene in Philadelphia to Rica. What do we
know about the accused gunman? Yeah, we
know that the accused gunman has a criminal history and extensive
criminal history that includes several gun possession charges
now as for those six officers that were wounded, they were
released from the hospital and are said to be in good spirits
this morning. You know you take a look at the scene behind me
right now. Police still gathering evidence it is quiet.
It is calm. But hours ago neighbors here described it as a
warzone. Sounds of gunfire terrorize this neighborhood in
Philadelphia for hours. long gun eight officers serving a
narcotics ward at a home around 4:30pm yesterday were ambushed
by gunmen barricaded himself inside a shooter.
By multiple rounds. Officers returned fire many of whom who
had to escape through windows and doors to get from a barrage
of bullets.
Adam Curry: You know, I this broke yesterday and I was
scanning across the channels. And I noticed right off the bat
Fox News was going live regularly CNN MSNBC went live in
the beginning and then didn't come back really. And they were
running, you know, a special of Anderson Cooper interviewing Don
Lemon. I mean, just interviewing each other. whoever the hell it
was. And then just they completely ignored it. And I
knew right then and there. I turned to my lovely wife. I
said, Oh, he's not white. This is a problem can't report on it
and they don't and there's no mass shooting the gun did get
rid Oh, none of this
John C. Dvorak: was CBS tried to do this. Gail with the Who Says
the guy can't get with his hands in the air I think was a prelude
to showing the clip of a guy came out with his hands in the
air was a white guy. Right? And then there was the second
little, little little gem in there where the the announcer
woman says has a criminal history and then Instead of
giving us any criminal history, she says many gun possession
charges.
Adam Curry: Well, I didn't finish the clip so let's listen
to the rest of it.
Unknown: Six officers were shot, including one who was grazed by
a bullet in the head.
One of the cops was running past he didn't he had blood all over
his head,
heavily armed police officers, dozens of squad cars and SWAT
teams swarmed the area. SWAT police along with the shooters
lawyer were trying to communicate with the suspect for
hours, urging him to surrender and free hostages.
SWAT was able to successfully extract the two police officers
that were trapped upstairs as well as three prisoners.
But as darkness began to fall, the siege didn't let
up. I feel ready no.
More than seven hours later, the gunman surrendered with the help
of his lawyer Shaka Johnson
never known him to possess the trace that would have a person
seeking police officers or having a whole community under
Adam Curry: siege. Okay. Well, anyway, yeah, it's very obvious
which way the bias goes. And it's the same we had a guy tried
to blow up an ice facility with a propane tank and he was armed
with an idea of a handgun or a military style assault weapon.
John C. Dvorak: How remember, but it was the same similar and
just no reporting.
Adam Curry: It's it's so wrong.
John C. Dvorak: To put up with it, because there's nothing
there was gonna do about it. They got it. They got their
marching orders.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, they're following him. That's for sure.
Yes, well, amidst all that, I've been poisoned. Yeah, yeah. Do
you remember late? Well, I've been poisoned.
John C. Dvorak: Do you remember employees even talking to me
should be in the hospital. I should
Adam Curry: be in the hospital. Do you remember? was about a
week ago? Not long after I went wakesurfing again with the
former New York banker and had severe stomach issues. Well, no
one on the show knows that.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you because you're a trooper. Yeah.
Adam Curry: But me and my buddies. We're in big trouble
here specifically in Austin. Dogs. That's right. Me and the
dogs
Unknown: in the summer heat nothing more invading them
refreshing lake water. But in Texas, Georgia, Tennessee and
North Carolina. Multiple reports from dog owners that their pets
died after coming into contact with Blue Green Algae. And if we
had known Claire sqrt had Harper since she was a puppy. She
didn't understand why 30 minutes after being in the water. Her
best friend was dying.
She's struggling to breathe and so we take her to the emergency
vet. 10 minutes after we got there. They told me that your
baby's not doing good. We have to give her CPR and she died
shortly after that.
Some dog owners say they believe their dogs died after licking
their fur which had been
John C. Dvorak: her baby died.
Adam Curry: It was waiting for you to respond to that
John C. Dvorak: dog. baby died to
Adam Curry: the dog is her baby's Young. I'm sorry, I'm
John C. Dvorak: sorry. I'm sorry. Keep playing I'm
Unknown: sorry. minutes after we got there. Then they told me
that your baby's not doing good. We have to give her CPR.
Adam Curry: Oh, they actually told her her baby wasn't doing
Unknown: dyes. Shortly after that.
Some dog owners say they believe their dogs died after licking
their fur which had been soaked with the toxins of that blue
green algae. The problem is more acute in the south in summer
because algae blooms in the heat are more common. In some cases
the warnings come in word of mouth. Just said he was like
don't put your dogs in the water they're passing away I'm like
wait, what? Veterinarians say they're helpless, Doc. Is there
an antidote? I'm so sorry to say no. Tonight in the south a
warning your dogs dip in a lake might be deadly
Adam Curry: now so they're warning everywhere in Austin. I
think three or four dogs have I mean babies have died for babies
of course. But they never hand out any warning for people and I
looked it up and yes, Blue Green Algae can make you sick. It can
cause illness capable of producing several different
toxins.
John C. Dvorak: Yellow tons of toxins in fact is a whole big
problem up in Lake Erie had a clip a couple of shows ago if
you look at Blake, either Erie e ri e org or LG we did I had a
clip to discuss what was going on up there in Canada. In Canada
they get this problem too. And you should there's good news and
bad news about you and that exposure since you're not dead.
Adam Curry: I'm still here if you want to hear the Lake Erie
bloom, yeah play to bloom.
Unknown: At this time of the year. The waters of Lake Erie
are normally a big draw for boaters and fishers and swimmers
and sunseekers but a stinky green Sheen is keeping folks at
bay and that does not look good. potentially toxic algae is
growing In the western part of the lake, and for the first
time, Canadian researchers are teaming up with their
counterparts in the US to find out how big and how harmful it
is. RT pol takes us there.
Not the pristine blue you typically see on a summer's day.
Colchester harbor and Lake Erie in Ontario is this shade of
green, all because of an algae infestation?
I don't think anybody's going to want to swim in that bloom or
they're not going to come out here at all. fluoresce in green.
Yeah, no,
she says the toxic blooms coating the shoreline impact her
bottom line. But the algae isn't just bad for business. It's bad
for the environment. It can make fish sick. And if you eat that
fish, it can make you sick, too. It can also send toxins into the
air that can cause breathing problems.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know enough. This is bad. They should be it's
a health they should issue a health warning for people. Which
they have to
John C. Dvorak: tell you your good news and bad news.
Adam Curry: Okay, good news and bad news.
John C. Dvorak: I don't know if this is true anymore. But I know
a few years back, there was a fad of taking blue G Blue Green
Algae pills as a health benefit.
Adam Curry: All right, that was the Info Wars supply, I guess.
Was good as iodine gave you some iodine where that package is.
John C. Dvorak: But it was huge. It was hugely popular. And they
were actually and that by the way they the Canadian report
goes on and I'll throw this in there, which is all because of
climate change. Okay.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. No, of course. Well, that's already
going on. Yeah, but I'm thinking
John C. Dvorak: do I remember during this little faddish
period of blue green algae being a healthy dietary supplement
sold at GMC and elsewhere. And there was also ads in certain
magazines saying you too can be an overnight millionaire grow
blue green algae in ponds in your backyard and harvested and
you know, turn it in, I don't know, turn the filter in some
way. But I'm wondering how much of this stuff was propagated by
this faddish era where Blue Green Algae was a healthy
dietary supplement and people growing it all over the place
and making it available I think and all these ponds and every
where else it's possible that it's a kind of a created
problem.
Adam Curry: Oh, that could be terrorism. bioterrorism.
John C. Dvorak: That anyway, blue green algae. Did they blame
me? Why in Canada they're blaming global warming?
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, I'm surprised Austin has not done
the same yet. Well, we have had every day has been 100 Plus it's
about 100 304
John C. Dvorak: Deepwood kill the algae.
Adam Curry: I guess the algae just thrives on it don't know
enough about it. Doesn't matter because it is hatched chilly
months so everyone's got stomach issues no matter what. It is
hatched everywhere you go in Austin hatch chili months.
John C. Dvorak: What's hatched chili?
Adam Curry: Well hatch is a type of chili pepper.
John C. Dvorak: I don't know anything about this chili
pepper.
Adam Curry: No, you should look it up the hat so you go to the
supermarket they got hatch chili pepper.
John C. Dvorak: Cheese like a new ish fad to me. Oh, that's
awesome. You remember this last year?
Adam Curry: Yes, I think I do remember it last year.
John C. Dvorak: You remember it two years ago?
Adam Curry: No. They got unpatch hatch Chili Chicken sausages.
You got hatch chili in the cereal just it's like they
produce too much hatched chili this year just everything is
hatched chili hatch chili drinkin it's
John C. Dvorak: on Amazon.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. It's chilly at Amazon Sure.
John C. Dvorak: hatch green chile There you go. It looks
like a brand but it's not a brand No it's the kind of chili
well now it's a brand it is a brand well then it's a brand
because the other ones just got it has a logo and hatch as
possible. Well anyway, it's truly market Brands Hatch brand
is branded chili. Well, damn
Adam Curry: commercialism. Really, it's it's like
champagne. It has to come from the region of hatch. Think
John C. Dvorak: hatch, Arizona.
Adam Curry: There you go. So I had a little celebration on
Tuesday. I thought it was Wednesday. But I woke up Tuesday
morning. Everyone's tweeting. Yay. 15th anniversary of daily
source code. Yes.
John C. Dvorak: I actually listened to that. Oh,
Adam Curry: here's where you say, Gee, that was pretty good.
John C. Dvorak: Well, it was short. But wow. hour and a half
was a plus hour and 45. And it was
Adam Curry: yeah, it was hour and 45 minutes.
John C. Dvorak: Your your DSC was an hour and 45
Adam Curry: just sir. I'm not saying it's that good. Is that
you thought it went by too fast.
John C. Dvorak: I must have just listened to a clip. And the clip
was good. The clip was you do going on and on about the
history of podcasting with some more anecdotes that I hadn't
heard before go the early playing music and that was the
end of it as far as I wasn't interested in that 90 songs that
you played.
Adam Curry: No, no, I know this. I'm sorry. The little Nash,
Rambler wasn't on my playlist. Sorry.
Unknown: Work on that.
Adam Curry: How the hell do I get this car out of second gear?
Anyway? Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: there's one for you. As a callback
Adam Curry: anyway, it was it was not 15 years can you believe
it? How long we've we've been at this game because you started
pretty early at pod show. Your fight tech five by five wasn't
that whatever stupid
John C. Dvorak: things in a bunch of videos. Yeah, yeah.
Tech grouch.
Adam Curry: There you go. Man. I missed that guy. Anyway, let's
get into some some crazy, crazy news. We have to deconstruct
because got information, man, new shit has come to light. You
know, I'm tossing Joe Digenova overboard. He's just not he's
not delivering. He's not given me the 1000s of sealed
indictments. You know, it's just it's not happened. We have a new
guy. And I think he has better credentials than than our
friend, Joe smokin Joe Digenova. I think the the CEO of
overstock.com Patrick Byrne is a CEO of a publicly listed
company, the stock price is severely is being suppressed or
depressed at the moment that it's down. And that's not just
because of whatever's going on globally. But he's involved in
the Russian collusion store collusion story. And at first I
had Sarah a Carter, Sarah a carter.com. Yeah, I subscribe to
the feed, and I read her stuff. And people send me articles. I'm
like, Does this really true what she's saying? And so I'm hunting
around. And lo and behold, two days ago, the CEO of
overstock.com was on Fox Business News. To explain
exactly what's going on.
Unknown: I let me let me give a kid a nutshell, in a very
strange way, by a weird fluke of history. I ended up in the
center of the Russian and the Clinton investigations. I have
all the answers. I've been sitting on them, waiting for
America to get there last summer I figured out I have all the
answers to both of those. What they all are. It's all about
political espionage had nothing to do with law enforcement. I
thought I was helping them in some law enforcement was all
political espionage. Here's the bottom line. There is a deep
state, like a like a submarine lurking just beneath the waves
at periscope depth, watching our shipping lanes and a nuclear
icebreaker named the USS Bill Barr has snuck up on them and is
about to ram them amidships. That's about to happen. And I
think we're about to see the biggest scandal in American
history as a result, but it was all plugged everything you think
you know about Russia and Clinton investigations is a lie.
It's all a cover up. It was all political estimating Bill Barr
is gonna get to the bottom of it. I think I think he has
gotten to the bottom of it. It was believing that there was
political espionage conducted against Hillary Clinton. And I
can tell you two of the names involved were John Brennan and
James Comey. But there was political espionage conducted
against Hillary Clinton against Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Donald
Trump. And everything you think you know about the Russian
collusion investigation is a lie. Well, it's gonna be
exposed.
Adam Curry: Fabulous. Of course it's all sealed. Sealed
indictments I'm sure
John C. Dvorak: wow. Oh, goodness. me start the day off
right with a clip of the day sorry, started show couldn't
resist the biggest bull crap out there.
Adam Curry: Now, the story goes that he was in a romantic
relationship with the with the Butina guide. The Russian spy
the girl who was girl the hottie? Yeah. Well, she's not as
hot as
John C. Dvorak: the first one as the redhead. No, no, no,
Adam Curry: but she's the one that was cutie pie. She's in
jail right now because she didn't register as a foreign
agent which half of her you see hasn't done yeah, spook. Of
course, she's a spook. And so that's what's
John C. Dvorak: this got hold on a second. What's this guy's name
again?
Adam Curry: Patrick Byrne by R N E. And overstock I guess we
could look and take a look. It was down because of the CEO
being
John C. Dvorak: nuts. Let me see what we're gonna look at this
guy. This you what he really looks like. He's like a
goofball.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, he's, well, he's the son of the former
GEICO CEO and he's always been a weird dude. Here we go August
13. Stock goes from 25 drops down to a low of 1568 yesterday
and it's climbing a little bit today but it's still at 50 Now
Now I didn't know it's more actually it's up it's up to what
well it's the mean that's what it should be. Yeah $18 stock at
the moment anyway, hey, you know what? I like
John C. Dvorak: overstock see your here's a classic overstock
CEO Patrick Byrne touts the benefits of medical cannabis.
Yeah, you look at him you can see that.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he he's also quite vocal about being a
Grateful Dead listening flag waving pot smoking Merkin
Unknown: yeah
Adam Curry: I didn't even clip that part. I was like yeah we
don't need to know
John C. Dvorak: well, yeah, you're right probably better
than Genova doesn't have anything else or didn't have got
a company to run so it was we'll see more of him unless of this
guy.
Adam Curry: I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. I'm very excited
about this new twist in the saga. Anthony was an even better
John C. Dvorak: than a minute. all hell's breaking loose. Are
these these bastards 1000s
Adam Curry: of sealed indictments. Yeah. Now I did
have a chat yesterday with the botanic if we just get into
indictments, etc, etc. You know, he had emailed me that he ah,
let's let's do a show on this record. So I recorded a show
with as in typical pathetic fashion, he, he always has
something he wants to focus on, and it's usually involves China.
In this case, India, Pakistan, the Bhutan region, Kashmir,
John C. Dvorak: he has got his marching orders. Yes. But we did
we really are the only outlet for him.
Adam Curry: Well, it's yes, it seems like all the rest have
been burned. Infowars doesn't reach anymore. I mean, Alex
Jones might as well just not exist in the in the parlance. I
guess we're the same. But at least we're still listed in
Apple's iTunes.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, we haven't been kicked off finish.
Adam Curry: Don't Don't talk like that. Don't say these
things.
John C. Dvorak: You know, so God would
Adam Curry: show I asked him the typical things and he said,
Well, you know, that doesn't Epstein doesn't matter. He's
dead alive. It's his you'll never hear from him again. Of
course and just lay Maxwell then we're never going to hear from
her again. She'll be found dead or and I love that the all of
our intelligence services cannot seem to find julienne Maxwell.
Although the Daily Mail,
John C. Dvorak: they found her in Massachusetts. Well,
Adam Curry: here's the report. Let's listen to it. With a
little extra bonus story. The authorities
Unknown: need to hunt her down and she needs to face justice.
We can exclusively reveal that the British socialite has been
laying low inside this $3 million beachfront mansion. The
57 year old is dating tech CEO Scott Bergersen and living near
Boston and insider tells us she has become a real homebody,
rarely ventures out. But her boyfriend says he doesn't know
where she is. She was just named in a civil suit filed against
Epstein's estate. Jennifer arose claims galane helped Epstein
raper when she was 15 interesting to point out the
disgraced financier had a bizarre portrait of Bill Clinton
in his New York City mansion. Daily Mail TV has exclusively
obtained this grainy image of the former president in drag.
He's wearing red heels and a blue dress. The painting is a
reminder of Monica Lewinsky is infamous blue dress with
Clintons DNA. Epstein's brother Mark will likely inherit the
former hedge fund managers $550 million state, which includes
the private Caribbean island recently raided by the FBI.
Adam Curry: So just reading the headlines, you'd think that
she's holed up in her boyfriend's house, but now no
one's seen her he doesn't know where he is. She's not there.
And then and then this Clinton blue dress thing is the biggest
hoax I've seen in a while that people are actually buying into
John C. Dvorak: you the funny thing about this is one of the
more elaborate or more not elaborate but it's not elaborate
at all. But it's one of the more interesting hoaxes because it's
very clear they don't nobody says that it's a photo. But
nobody ever says oil painting but it is oil painting of
Clinton with a with a you know without doing it with a horse.
Adam Curry: But John, here's the thing. I've seen this photo
before months ago, and I remember seeing going last funny
because it's A poorly photoshop job of Clintons head on on some
woman wearing this dress it's it's a Photoshop and
John C. Dvorak: and then they pasted it and I thought it was
an oil painting
Adam Curry: No it's it's not true I've seen this picture
John C. Dvorak: okay so just photos I could take Clinton's
head and put it on anybody's
Adam Curry: exactly but uh what but they didn't really they did
it really well with this grainy photo looking in through the
doorway into the hallway to the back of the of the hall and
there's this picture and these zoom in make it even more
grainy. This is bull crap. This is totally someone is laughing
John C. Dvorak: the point of it is it's because this is
Adam Curry: trolling man this is it's no better or worse than
Chris Cuomo with Fredo
John C. Dvorak: I love the Chris Cromo Flynn Fredo thing.
Adam Curry: You want to go there. You want to stay with
Epstein for a while. I
John C. Dvorak: want to finish this thing. We're good.
Adam Curry: All right, so I got a couple other things so
pathetic as he's like, Well, the thing that Trump did, he says,
because I'm like, is this draining the swamp? Do we have
1000s of sealed indictments ready to pop? And he said now
what he has done is he has not gone after the espionage and the
blackmail and anything else he's gone purely after the pedophilia
and according to Botanik that was a genius move because he has
now put fear into the circles of pedophilia acts as pathetic
calls them and that will result in people ratting each other out
he feels that the John Huntsman resignation right after Epstein
was it was he when he got to know right after Epstein died, I
think or what whatever. He resigned as ambassador to
Russia. And the story is well, he's going to run you know, he's
gonna run for Governor of I think Ohio right.
John C. Dvorak: John Huntsman the guy ran for president. Yeah,
the guy who used warm and yeah,
Adam Curry: the Mormon used to be in it used to be the
ambassador to China.
John C. Dvorak: And now he's the ambassador to Russia. Well,
Adam Curry: not anymore. He was yeah,
John C. Dvorak: I gotta look this up. I don't know any of
this.
Adam Curry: This is John Huntsman as we've played in many
times, top boot. HollyWell. Jia Jia ching ching. Ching Ching is
right. So pathetic thinks that he might have been dead. Chica
Ching Ching and hapu that taka ching ching in would have seen
he he is listed I believe on the manifest as one of the
participants in flying on the Lolita Express. So botanic says
I think he had to resign to get ready for anything coming out
John C. Dvorak: lookup John Huntsman resigned everybody got
it spelled wrong. How can you misspell Huntsman? I guess
survived by some psychology i pronounced I spelled with a K.
Adam Curry: Oh. One other name he brought out and that name is
also all of a sudden in the news, Bill Gates.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Bill Gates showed up in the in the in the
stream in the news stream yesterday. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And the story goes back to I believe 2015 When a
huge cache of child pornography was found somewhere within the
gates compound. And it was immediately blamed on some rogue
employee who never went to jail. Nothing happened. We don't even
know his name. It's just gone. But botanic is very adamant
about gates being compromised. And it's interesting because
we're in all of these different circles one name keeps popping
up one brand name and actually wanted to see if I have this I
found some other information that relates to this and I'll
get to this brand name. The day after the alleged hanging there
was something odd that that caught my eye my ear only coming
from ABC now the New York Post first of all, apparently, on
4chan, there was a post about this happening way before the
mainstream got it before it was supposedly even I don't know. So
that's fine, talking about fine Whatever, whatever. New York
Post put something out almost the same time ABC News didn't
ABC News really led the story. But across the board in all of
their written articles, including this first report,
there was something new instead of calling him the billionaire
financier, the billionaire hedge fund manager it became
Unknown: wet so Sources tell ABC News Jeffrey Epstein took his
own life. The exact timing and circumstances are unclear right
now. But the mega Millionaire is accused of exploiting and
abusing dozens of minors,
Adam Curry: the mega millionaire and just kept coming back mega
millionaire and no one noticed this and no one has said it
since except for ABC as far as I can tell. And it didn't take me
long to find the mega group. Now if the if this was some kind of
code then it would relate to this, the mega group was this
group of very wealthy Jewish businessmen, all who have gone
back to Meyer Lansky was in there, the Bronfman senior was
in there. Wexner was in there. And then also a Maxwell, just
Lane's dad, Robert Maxwell was a part of this group. And Epstein
became a part of the group, when you went through his association
with Wexner, the L brands. And in this group, almost every
single one of these people has touched, or in Maxwell's case
directly sold the PROMIS software, which we've talked
about before, this is from inslaw. This was it's
John C. Dvorak: the old scandal from years back, it's
Adam Curry: yeah, it's a very old story. And actually, I put a
couple links in the show notes to look at it, there's something
called the last circle, everybody's ever
John C. Dvorak: really looked into it from an investigative
perspective is dead dead.
Adam Curry: So I'm like, I don't think I need to dig too deep on
this, you know, this about six bodies. But briefly, the story
is that a Silicon Valley company inslaw, created this system
called promise, PR, O M, I S, no II dropped the E for extra
savings. And it was able to connect to mainly financial
databases and systems, but it really connected to everything.
And to all databases that were being created and built, we're
going back to the 60s. Now, this is the late 60s that a lot of
this work started. And so it eventually wound up getting sold
to the US government. But that instead of you know, just being
good, good, good users, they copied this apparently with
Israeli intelligence, built in a backdoor, and then engage Robert
Maxwell to sell it to other countries, to intelligence
services, and other countries, which the original install
company didn't know about until they start getting calls from
the French government for support in French. And then they
kind of caught on to what was going on. Yeah, they
John C. Dvorak: got ripped off, and they never got paid. Well,
some of them got killed, and some got killed when they looked
into it. But if you look at this promise
Adam Curry: software, and the story around it, almost all of
these people, some right up to bar actually, all have been
involved with this software in one form or another. But Maxwell
apparently was the sales guy. So you know, this, he's dead? Yeah,
he's dead. It could have been used. I mean, once you have
someone's financial information, you can really track their
finances at the banking level, which is I think what this is
used for, mainly, you really can start to predict things that are
going that this person is going to do not unlike Silicon Valley
today. In fact, there's enough circumstantial evidence to think
that if not some of the code, but certainly the methodology of
promise has been replicated in Peter TEALS, Palantir. Software.
So there's a lot going on around that. And
John C. Dvorak: well, that's that's
Adam Curry: the final thing. The final thing is in this would be
the claim that Bill Gates was compromised very early on in, in
the Microsoft trajectory, probably through, you know, a
honey trap honeypot type scenario. And that the promise
widget, or some code is has been in Windows for as long as we've
been on the planet, apparently. And that wouldn't surprise me.
John C. Dvorak: Well, a couple things I can least note, Silicon
Valley has a lot of methodologies for, you know,
tracking it, tail numbers of private jets going here and
there. And then you find this guy and that guy both landed at
Hayward on certain certain time. And then the two planes left, he
figured what this guy was this company, that guy was that
company, these two guys don't really they're buddies not
hanging out, there's a merger coming. There's also a backdoor
into some of the reservation systems that we know of Open
Table. And you can say, well, let's see, I can see a Hurst has
been meeting with so and so on. They don't really they're not
pals or it's not like there's some other reason so maybe
there's a murderous look into it. So you can get it show. This
sort of thing is very valuable. If you're doing a lot of big
trading. And you can't get insight you can't use insight
information. This is right way around it. So work around right.
Now, Bill has always been a fond of fond of petite blondes,
specifically.
Adam Curry: Okay. You heard it here first, ladies and
gentlemen.
John C. Dvorak: Well as I don't think it's a big secret and And
during the era of Microsoft when they were before they moved to
Redmond, they were I think it was Bellevue, I think yeah, were
burger Master is, and I think burger Master is going out of
business. Anyway, they they had a. This was told to me by the
guy who wrote hard drive the I think it was hard to the
original bill gates. The book on Bill Gates is a reporter for The
Seattle Times. And I had a long chat with him for some other
circumstance. So we started talking about the book and the
stuff that he left out. So he gave me a number of interesting
stories that he just they wouldn't let him run or he
couldn't run or didn't have enough backup for it or it
wasn't you know, it
Adam Curry: was a Vanity Fair type job.
John C. Dvorak: Man, I don't know what to put in that term.
But it's just a normal that normally does the way it works.
You don't get everything in that you want and some stuff gets
left out and then you end up talking about it
Adam Curry: on the phone on podcast,
John C. Dvorak: podcast, so you end up finding out about it
shows that supposedly this is all a legend. God Microsoft had
a an account. They were big with hookers in the early days to the
point where they had a an account with some witnesses in
the era where there was a lot of hookers and they had an account
at and I would say what this era was is probably I'm trying to
put the years on it
Adam Curry: I'm gonna say it's probably not early 80s Bush
presidency
John C. Dvorak: when they were still in Bellevue is all I can
say for sure. All right. And they had a just an open account
and this is when Microsoft everyone had their own private
offices everybody at a private office at Microsoft so when you
would visited the campus in the early days it was nobody it
wasn't one of these open air things where everyone felt like
a drone it was everyone had every code everyone to work so
wherever you did, you had a private office you closed the
door unlock it. And you could have a bed in there if you
wanted to if you wanted to spend the night because a lot of
coders like to do that to just stay there. And that was very
common in the early days and they had an open account with
Holt with a whorehouse and and they get we just go onto the
bill I don't know what the petty cash I have no idea how they
wrote this off. But any coder that was lonely could get some
girl to come over and to keep keep meant to place coding
Adam Curry: wow and place to work
John C. Dvorak: yeah but my had to be dynamite that's why you
can take a cut and pay to work there. There are benefits are
little more than the free lunch at Google. And I was allegedly
according to the source again the writer he says that the that
bills Bill bills Bill Gates his hooker tally his whole hooker
was actually the madam of the place.
Adam Curry: Why is there no book about this the hidden secrets of
Silicon Valley and hookers?
John C. Dvorak: In my memoirs? No. That's the what does that
mean? I don't know. I mean, for one thing, the MME is the older
oldest one. And Ben he likes he preferred for what I get,
because he used to date Deborah Weiss, who was a writer for me
when I was at InfoWorld. And the two of them were and I do have a
funny story about that, which I will tell on another show. But
he used to date her all the time. And she go out with him
and she was a petite blonde. And then she Devers was said, yeah,
he likes, he likes petite blondes.
Adam Curry: Well, depending on how petite they add the blondes
were that may have gotten them into some trouble, which created
some kind of something in Windows, there's,
John C. Dvorak: I perceive problems with a lot of these
girls, that we're generally speaking, some of these an
outcome whores are salespeople. And they try to sell you on what
they're offering. And if you're not buying, they sell, you know,
I mean, it's like, I mean, that was the difference between that
reporter in that clip we had in the last show, it says he went
over their place. And the butler offered him a massage and the
happy ending, right, and the guy wasn't going for it if it was
the girl coming out to offer and as she was doing her sales
thing, which some of these women can do, and many of them
actually no offense to the women sales folk out there. But a lot
of these girls go into sales and do quite well for themselves
because they can sell which is all it takes. And there's the
Zephyr finally, by the way, it's very late. It's moving slow.
It's
Adam Curry: you know, if I want to know about trains or hookers,
I call John C. Dvorak. That's for sure.
John C. Dvorak: I could go on with these. I'll let it slide
but that just the point is it's possible that something bad
happened.
Adam Curry: Well, people die around this saw Software and the
knowledge of it in this, in these circles when these things
are taking place, all kinds of bad stuff happens, in fact, now,
well, let's just listen to it. This was on Australian, I think
there's the morning show they had a guest on from the US. And
he was talking about the Epstein case. And, of course at the
lymphoma Suprem.
Unknown: So of Epstein secrets died with him. Now, where are we
going to learn a lot more about all those rich, powerful and
famous people that allegedly had girls procured for them by
Epstein.
Hopefully, we learned what was going on there. The the, the the
prosecution is not dead, because one of the charges against
Jeffrey Epstein was a conspiracy charge. And that's significant,
because it it means that other people were involved. So we know
that other people were due to be charged, they just haven't been
charged yet. But what the names that you're starting to see
thrown around and these things be former high officials in the
Clinton administration, you're talking about names in the royal
family, all kinds of names have been thrown around. And we're
just scratching the surface of documents that are the surface
of the documents that are available now.
Adam Curry: So Michael, is there a chance that we do learn the
truth, but it's so outrageous that nobody actually believes
it?
Unknown: You know, I was asked that question a number of times
today and it just remains to be seen what the Resolve is of
prosecutors. And you know, it may not be a prosecutor that
finds out the truth, it may be some intrepid reporter
Lanchester, who takes it into the bit into their into their
mouth and runs with it. And finds it gets determined for
after years and years to find out what the truth is. But I
think that the truth is at its core, probably something Oh, oh,
oh. Well, obviously people are on to me
the Looking Glass reputation with you, you're on your own.
Adam Curry: So the minute the guy says, here's the truth.
Here's what's going on. They pulled the satellite plug
perfect. It just builds and builds and builds now, so many
cord one so many cool characters are coming out of the woodwork
Judith Miller. Do you remember Judith Miller
John C. Dvorak: movkit. Forget Judith Miller. Judith Miller is
buku dude,
Adam Curry: who took us to Iraq, she basically got us into Iraq
into the war. In part, thanks to her reporting on Iraq's weapons
of mass destruction. both before and after the 2003 invasion,
which later we discovered I was inaccurate information came from
the intelligence community. So she's a spoke. And she's not and
I don't understand why anyone would want her on their media
property. But I guess when Tucker Carlson is out, and you
have Mark Stein in who I like, as a commentator, I think he's
really poor as a host. He can barely get a sentence out
without stammering and stuttering and it's just no
good. But she said something quite remarkable. One of those
as in the truth wants to come out. My point is, this guy is at
the preliminary stage he all the United States government had to
do was keep him alive until the trial. And it's brazen if you
were writing a thriller, you wouldn't put in anything this
obvious where he just gets whacked before before the trial.
It's brazen, either in its incompetence, or in its cynicism
and corruption and the American people seem to be leaning
towards the latter one of those explanations.
Unknown: I know that people love to embrace conspiracy theories,
Mark, but I really think we have to wait until all of the facts
are in and the facts by the way, are changing a lot. We know some
things about
Adam Curry: the facts are changing a lot. Okay. You would
know how that works. Judas Miller. The facts are changing.
That's not That's not how a reporter does work. Anyway, we
all know basically that Trump is to blame for everything. That's
Trump's fault. Hey, on the Trump rotation, Trump rotation.com.
Yeah, do we have conspiracy theories now listed
John C. Dvorak: and unknown where that fits in? Oh,
Unknown: within hours of Jeffrey Epstein's apparent suicide,
President Trump was retweeting a conspiracy theory linking Bill
Clinton to his death. It was immediately picked up by Russian
state media going viral. A Clinton spokesperson calling the
tweet ridiculous and of course not true, but a top Trump
adviser defending it. I think the President just wants
everything to be investigated for the president seizing on a
conspiracy theory as part of a pattern. He launched his
political career with a false birther claim against President
Obama. He may not have been born in this country. In 2016, there
was the bizarre claim that Republican rival Ted Cruz's
father had been involved in the Kennedy assassination, there was
a picture of heart him. And crazy Lee Harvey Oswald having
breakfast and after the election, the false charge that
millions in California had voted illegally for Hillary Clinton.
The same person votes many times you probably heard about that.
Other examples that Justice Scalia may have been murdered
that vaccines cause autism were 1000s of Muslims celebrated in
Jersey City on 911. But tying Bill Clinton to Epstein's death
reached a new level,
certainly, to accuse even by implication, a predecessor of a
murder conspiracy puts us in a whole different realm of
reality.
Clinton and Trump had both known Epstein and Trump critics
countered by blaming Mr. Trump online for Epstein's death.
Marco Rubio chided both sides for spreading conspiracies, but
no one did it with as big a megaphone as the president.
Adam Curry: So the message went out to all ships at sea. Okay,
we got to label this guy as a conspiracy theorist noted he
definitely sparked that with his retweet of the video, which was
a funny joke about the Clinton body count. But NPR got down in
the weeds and got some experts in and let's talk about this
conspiracy. But what is it? What was his work? Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: bio, I will say I'm looking at the list. I will
have to put it on the list is 50 number 56. Moving the criminal
ones up by one but I'll put at the end. Because it's definitely
because of the birther and all the rest of it. She did a good
rundown there. If you're gonna make somebody look like against
me, they can do that to anybody, by the way. Well, let's take a
bunch of discrepant stuff and package it in such a way that
you can say it's all one thing. And I I'm in I think it should
be on the list.
Adam Curry: And they take took the same, the same packaging and
did it everywhere. And I but I thought NPR was
John C. Dvorak: doing their marching orders. Yes,
Unknown: whether President Trump actually believes that
conspiracies he highlights is also debatable. He's often
employed conspiracy theories to denigrate his adversaries. Kurt
Anderson, who wrote the book of Fantasyland, how America went
haywire, says when a bad thing happens. It's easy to blame it
on some secret cabal.
So if you're Donald Trump, my enemies, the Clintons did this.
If you are somebody who believes that Donald Trump is in league
with the Russians, and of course you think, Oh no, the Russians
did this,
but people don't need a partisan motivation to come up with a
conspiracy theory. Consider such discredited claims as that
vaccines cause autism, that 911 was an inside job that the Sandy
Hook School hoax. People genuinely believe these things,
and that may trouble those who take logic or evidence
seriously, Reverend now but Moeller, president of the
Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, felt the need on his
podcast to explain why conspiracy theories take hold.
We as human beings do not like unanswered moral questions. We
want to know who did it we want to know how it was done.
All the more so Moeller said, when an event is associated with
some strange coincidences, we're looking
for a pattern our intelligence given to us by God is a pattern
seeking intelligence
and a conspiracy theory cut off for a pattern. Joe use insky at
the University of Miami has studied conspiracy theories. He
says people also see conspiracies even when there are
no coincidences to explain.
Adam Curry: Now, I'm like, okay, they're gonna talk about me now.
But now, it doesn't matter because people can take whatever
they want and turn it into whatever they want.
Unknown: He cites the example of a Supreme Court Justice Scalia
dying in bed. Some conspiracy thinkers suggested he was
smothered, simply because there was a pillow by his head. It
wasn't
Adam Curry: there a pillow on his head. I remember I
remembered specifically that the pillow was on his head.
John C. Dvorak: No shame.
Unknown: Anyway, you know, everybody has a pillow near
their head. They're sleeping. That's not strong evidence of
anything. But to them. That was very strong evidence. He's insky
says his research suggests that people who ascribe to conspiracy
theories are often those who feel they're under threat or out
of power, or somehow left on the farm. So connecting the gorgeous
podcasters that's may satisfy.
Adam Curry: Oh, I gotta put this as the important part here.
Sorry. Let's go back. I love this
Unknown: head. You know, everybody has a pillow near
their head. They're sleeping. That's not strong evidence of
anything but to them. That was very strong evidence. He's insky
says his research suggests that people who ascribe to conspiracy
theories are often those who feel they're under threat or out
of power are somehow left on the outside. So connecting the dots
may satisfy an emotional or intellectual need. Kurt Anderson
says it can also be fun
look at this this person was here this time and and look at
it connects to this that is part of the pleasure of puzzles of
detective fiction, thrillers, it is a form of entertainment.
Adam Curry: Well, not just the amazing Polly connecting the
dots is everywhere. Here's Beto,
Unknown: members of the press. Hold on a second. You know, I,
it's these. It's these questions that you know the answers to I
mean, connect the dots about what he's been doing in this
country, connect the
dots is what I've said, I've said that we need the
information, we need to connect the dots, and we got to drill
down, we've got to connect the dots, get the facts, connect the
dots, do everything that I possibly can. To help connect
the dots. I've said, we've got to connect the dots. I've always
said, If we connect the dots, I believe that they should have to
connect the dots if we're able to connect the dots. And if we
determine the facts, if the dots are connected, let's get to the
bottom. Yeah, connected dots,
John C. Dvorak: Maxine Waters and the softball teams.
Adam Curry: Right. Something I didn't get that. I did. And then
he went all the way up to the elite circles of CNN
International now Christiana Amanpour.
Unknown: Now democracy is under increasing threat from
conspiracy theories from Now
Adam Curry: hold on a second. Democracy is under serious
threat from conspiracy theories. How? How do I put that together?
John C. Dvorak: Connect the dots man.
Unknown: Now, democracy is under increasing threat from
conspiracy theories from fake news, a war of misinformation
online. And it's coming right from the top in many occasions
this weekend, President Trump retweeted a conspiracy theory
blaming the Clintons for the death of the multi millionaire
sex offender Jeffrey Epstein,
Adam Curry: there you go. It's hurting our democracy.
John C. Dvorak: Well, this democracy under threat is
getting on my nerves. But to think about this conspiracy
thing, where I think is an element kind of missing the, it
just kind of this is kind of this in itself is a conspiracy
theory. And we you've identified the fact that you've have the
same talking points from different outlets that are very
discrepant, by the way. They're not like ABC, NBC, it's like, is
different. And you've picked on that but what is what would be
the real motivation to get people listening or is it just
conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory? Oh, Deep State, just a
conspiracy theory. There's no deep state. And this is all
eating away. If you look at the entire Trump rotation, it all
eats away at the idea of draining the swamp and yes, yes,
clearing the deep state, which is the bureaucratic techno
technocracy that runs the country. It's the people that
are always there. And they've created their own government,
Shadow Government for all practical purposes, which runs
everything. And then they obviously run the news media
toot nowadays by telling them what to do and what to say. Yes,
we've proven pretty much by this opening of this particular show,
although we prove it week after week.
Adam Curry: Yeah, and you know, and I would say, you know,
there's a pretty good conspiracy theory right now that all these
mass shootings, it's all because of Trump. Trump did it and he
they're using the same words. I mean, it's a manifesto that was
uploaded by someone else a different time. Okay. Well, just
look past that. It's just all it's you know, it's all it's all
Trump's he can he can actually mind control people. He can find
control people.
Unknown: The attorney for a US Army veteran charged with
assaulting a 13 year old Montana boy who refused to take off his
hat during the national anthem says his client believes he was
doing what President Trump wanted. Her Broncos attorney
Lance Jasper is quoted in the Ms. Williams saying the
President's rhetoric influenced his client who got into a
confrontation with a 13 year old boy at the start of a county
rodeo and slam a teen into the ground fracturing the boy's
skull. Jasper says he will seek a mental health evaluation for
his client.
Adam Curry: Yes. So even his lawyer says he's nuts but no,
no, no trump man. The President told him to do it. And that's
and that MSNBC which I watch mainly during the day I'll
switch back to CNN is just
John C. Dvorak: so poor and you have a surprise you're not
completely insane Well,
Adam Curry: maybe it's not the blue algae maybe it's as MSNBC
has given me stomach issues. Hmm. But Donny Deutsch uh, you
played a clip from his show he has a Saturday night show now
yeah, he's completely out of control. I got to play this
clip. He is he is he's just off the rails
Unknown: but enough is enough. I want to I want to talk to the
white people out there okay. Pay
Adam Curry: attention John White people want to
Unknown: talk to wealthy white people, because I've had it I've
had discussions when I talked to friends people I know who's good
for the economy, but it's good to be the rule jerks anyway
know.
Adam Curry: Are these his friends? What kind of friends
Unknown: it's good for the economy dirty. were to give to a
boy turn 20 It's good for the economy. He's
had discussions when I talked. I
Adam Curry: think it may be his. His good friend is Chris Cuomo.
Don't call me free to friends,
Unknown: people I know. Economy, but it's good to be the rule
jerks anyway. No, no, it's time. By the way, if you're somebody
who is poor, and you believe Donald Trump is going to get you
a job, maybe you don't have the luxury of a moral imperative.
Okay? But everybody else, shame on you at this point. Enough.
This is where you stand up. And if you don't you own it, and I
talked about this yesterday, you are no different than if you
were on a subway train. And you so for white nationalists
screaming at an African American woman, go home, go back where
you came from. If you vote for Trump.
Adam Curry: Just let him rant. It's funny
Unknown: and own it. No more. He's good for the economy. No
more. Well, they're all jerks. He just says these things. We
are heading to such a dangerous place. And guess what? You look
at history.
John C. Dvorak: Do I have to guess?
Adam Curry: Yeah, guess. What do you think? What do you think the
dangerous places? Where are we going with this dangerous place?
John C. Dvorak: Let me think. If I have to guess as he asked me
to guess, I really don't know.
Unknown: No more. Well, they're all jerks. He just says these
things. We are heading to such a dangerous place. And guess what?
You look at history. It can happen here. Maybe it's the Jews
next. Oh, I forgot to a Jew, who says who says you know, I come
from a place I come from, oh,
Adam Curry: that's a good conspiracy theory. Kushner is
not a Jew who says Kushner is a Jew?
Unknown: It's the Jews next. Oh, I forgot his daughter is married
to a Jew. Who says Who says you know, I come from a place I come
from a group of people. Wow, what happened to 6 million of
them? And I'm not saying he Trump is that person. But every
playbook that's happening. Every single playbook creating the
other getting rich people to look the other way. Getting
people to not trust the press getting the judicial system in
your pocket. Getting an entire branch of government the
legislative branch to the Republicans just marched with
you.
Adam Curry: So I was like Hitler,
Unknown: above the law to say that you're going to put your
adversaries in jail. What else do we have now? Hey, you dark
person if you don't like it here, go back from where you
came. Boy. It's time for us and time for white people who maybe
it's not so great for your pocketbook. Go in and look at
your children and decide who you are. Oh, Donnie, this guy. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: What is wrong with MSNBC?
Adam Curry: Everything. Just everything man, just everything.
You know, you could I could just sit there with MSNBC and clip
all day, all day of joy read with the now this guy. This guy
is a real interesting dude. He's been he's a pundit. But his his
name? Ely missed all. Ely Mystile he's the black guy with
the crazy fro the it's almost white. And that really poorly
fitting jacket suit jacket is really, really not a good look.
Oh, tease. He's all about the hate
Unknown: to try to beat that. But I mean, the thing is, is
that the question, I'll throw it all to the kid, how do you
communicate that to people who are drugged by it? Right?
They're already anesthetized by it, anybody?
I've had people call on my show in the past to your Trump
supporters who are white, who bluntly said he makes me feel
better to be white again. He makes me feel better about
myself as a white person. Yeah, they've literally said that and
they're like, I'm not racist. He makes me feel good about being
wiper, and that we are suffering. We are a victim. He
speaks the victimhood language. So for them, we look at his
pathetic as a champion. Yeah, this
Adam Curry: is really quite interesting.
John C. Dvorak: This is the biggest crock of crap ever.
They're making this up what language
Unknown: so for them, we look at it's pathetic. They are looked
at as a champion. You don't communicate
it to them, you beat them. You beat them. They are not a
majority of this country. That's the majority of white people in
this country are not a majority of the country and all the
people who are not fooled by this need to come together, go
to the polls, go to the protests, do whatever you have
to do, you do not negotiate with these people. You destroy them.
And by the way, the black man said beat the meeting in a poll
and
Adam Curry: don't come for the black man. He said Be so racist.
The whole thing from beginning to end is just racist.
John C. Dvorak: It should be NBS. NBC should be ashamed of
itself for putting this stuff on the air. Nobody listens to it. I
do sabew They have
Adam Curry: ratings. They have some ratings. And the only
John C. Dvorak: reason they even have the asterisk is because
there's one guy
Adam Curry: boy, I did want to estrous
John C. Dvorak: refers to ratings. Yeah, we still have
enough to
Adam Curry: Yeah, he had a one you have no ratings then you can
get so you
John C. Dvorak: have to have Some listeners or viewers to get
the asterisk you can get 0.1
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's the lowest that's the asterisk.
Yeah. Below the attic is what we call it. That
John C. Dvorak: means one guys watch it. Yes. You
Adam Curry: know what, there's a little bit of information coming
out about all these shooters. And we have no idea what's true
or not, you just don't know at this point anymore anymore. But
Bill Barr and I think I played a piece of this two shows ago. You
know, he's a bitching about encryption. Again, this is this
used to be Comey his job, and then Brennan bitched about it.
Now, Bill Barr is like, oh,
John C. Dvorak: all everybody in the Justice Department says I
was first in my first computer oriented radio show. And I
remember even before that in the year when I was writing for info
world, and that would be in the late 70s, early 80s. This was a
topic of conversation, and then the clipper chip click came
along. Oh, yeah. That was going to close the deal. And that to
me, that was a flop. Yeah, these guys are dead. Just do anything
they can to so they can just listen in on everything. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And so the drive is the same. The idea is, Hey, it's
okay. If you want to have end to end encryption, it's okay. It's
just we got to be able to look into your shed if we want to.
That's just the way it goes. So,
John C. Dvorak: and I'm what's the point of the encryption?
Yeah, but we can't
Adam Curry: have that in a democracy. You can't have that.
It's because you have to have law enforcement. This is the
problem with Bitcoin. You know, we can't turn off your bank
account. There's a problem. We can't have that. So Barr makes
an intro. I wish I had only seen the clip and I went back and
watch the whole half hour speech and it's filled. Yeah, it's all
gonna die. If this encryption if we don't figure this out. I'd
hate to have to legislatively the and this is two and a half
weeks ago.
Unknown: We think our tech sector has the ingenuity to
develop effective ways to provide secure encryption, while
also providing secure legal access. Some good minds have
already started to focus on this and some promising ideas are
emerging.
Adam Curry: Listen to the promising ideas.
Unknown: Our colleagues at the United Kingdom's GCHQ have
proposed virtual alligator clips,
Adam Curry: virtual alligator clips.
Unknown: Provider correspond to a warrant by adding a silent law
enforcement recipient to an otherwise secure chat.
Adam Curry: sounds perfectly okay to me. Ray Ozzie has tabled
Unknown: a proposal for exceptional access keys for
locked encrypted phones so that they can be unlocked pursuant to
a warrant
Adam Curry: is Ozzie still with Microsoft. Ray.
John C. Dvorak: I think I don't know what he's doing. He's the
guy who did Lotus Notes for anyone who doesn't remember
that? Yes. Leave me we remember. I'm replicating I'll be back in
an hour.
Adam Curry: replicating the Lotus Notes database. Yes. Let's
see what is he doing right now? Yeah, it wasn't Microsoft
between 2005 and 2010. And Currently he
John C. Dvorak: is once he left the stock skyrocketed.
Adam Curry: Isn't he still the chief software architect? I
guess not.
John C. Dvorak: I doubt it.
Adam Curry: No, oh, he said bad. He's on the board of directors
at
John C. Dvorak: HP. Oh, well, there you go. We belong and
Adam Curry: he joined the board of safe cast in 2017. What is
safe cast?
John C. Dvorak: Some this probably not safe.
Adam Curry: We continue with some
Unknown: of these great ideas. And Matt Cain has proposed
layered cryptographic envelopes to allow lawful access to
encrypted data at rest on disk or other storage.
Adam Curry: I would say layered encrypted envelopes is the way
to go. It just sounds beautiful build Layer and Layer Layer and
clipped it encrypted envelopes. Okay, now, but wait, he's about
to make an interesting prognostication, rip
Unknown: the data at risk on disks or other storage devices.
I think it is prudent to anticipate that a major incident
may well occur at any time. It will galvanize public opinion on
these issues. Whether we end up with so they
Adam Curry: they there was a brief moment in time where I
think it was the Dayton shooter. They couldn't get into his
phone. And they were trying to launch this story and it just
failed. But you know, I just find that interesting guys. It
could happen at any time galvanize
Unknown: public opinion on these issues.
John C. Dvorak: Now there we are. Oh, crap, you know, I don't
want to stop the clip. Yeah, but I want to say this. This is not
about public safety or anything like they want to But when you
really start boiling it down, this is about spying on
financial transactions so you can benefit. All of this stuff
has always really been about spying on financial
transactions. That's what you want to
Adam Curry: do, which is exactly what the PROMIS software did.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And so that way you can make a lot of
money by being insecure like an insider now you're just watching
the negotiations go on from from afar, and then you can make your
investment decisions. This is not about protecting again, if
these guys they get NSA listening in on everything,
they've got all this stuff going on with being spied upon and in
a surveillance society everybody bitches about it started in 1947
with the the whole surveillance the act of Truman pushed into
law and we're now we're all you know, being spied upon
constantly date not prevented one of these things, except for
the ones that they've set up a network phony, where they
suckered some guy into doing something that he did shouldn't
have done. Instead of just tell him not to do you're
Adam Curry: absolutely right. They're very good at
reconstructing things after the fact which, let's face it, if
you get an IRS audit, you do the same. It's like, okay, let's
see. And we figure out how all this dip fit together. And then
you piece it all together. There you go after the fact is enough
records and stuff.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is not the old hindsight thing. I
can predict stock prices if I go back in time, and said, Well,
here's something I can find some rationale. Look at the way this
chart went. That's why it skyrocketed well as old crap.
It's all bull crap. This is just a mat. This is spying for
financial gain, blackmail, and spying blackmail is another good
way to make money.
Adam Curry: As the saying goes in the stock trading business,
technical analysis of stocks and stock movements is 100% accurate
after the fact. And that's always that way you talk to a
technical guys like look, look, look, here's where it broke
through the 39th Fibonacci and it was right above the curve
above the noise and it's oh my god, the time series hit No
wonder Didn't you see that? He's so obvious. Yeah, that was
yesterday's chart. When it's happening live. It's a little
different.
John C. Dvorak: We like weather predicting, or climate change
for that matter.
Adam Curry: Well, okay, I'm going to skip the rest of this
clip and go straight to my one. No, one of my climate change
clips. This is from the Vermont i in the sky weather report. I
thought you'd get a kick out of it. Good afternoon from the
Fairbanks Museum in St. Johnsbury. This is the eye in
the sky forecast. A few upper 40s in the cooler spots over the
Northeast Kingdom as well as the Adirondacks will be found. Dry
conditions and cold temperatures offer some great stargazing
weather. Monday brings more pleasant weather with mostly
sunny skies and comfortable highs in the 70s. Computer
models are not in firm agreement about the timing of a weak cold
front that drove south from Canada sometime between the
evening and overnight hours on Monday. This brings a chance to
scattered to isolated rain showers, primarily over northern
areas. Again, computer models are not in firm agreement about
Tuesday, as a decaying low pressure system moves east from
the Midwest. And this brings a chance of scattered rain showers
so their coveted computer models can't even agree on Tuesday, let
alone 1015 2050 years that computer models they're great
What could possibly go wrong.
John C. Dvorak: And there you have it in a nutshell.
Adam Curry: Well then I might as well just I'm going to do two
more I'm going to do my my final two green New Deal clips my
climate change clips and then I'm going to relinquish the
microphone BBC is shocked I tell you
Unknown: before we go you have to see this. kangaroos are not
normally associated with freezing conditions. But as wild
weather lashes parts of eastern Australia and Australia they've
been getting a chance to hop on snow. This footage shows a large
mob of kangaroos bouncing through paddocks around 300
miles inland of Sydney. An icy winter blast is sweeping across
the region catching even the most seasoned locals by surprise
Adam Curry: Joe snow Whoa, how can that be we don't get snow
it's not supposed to snow must be extreme weather the climate
models are in disagreement over that. And then our favorite
abused child seems to be a theme on this show. This is truly an
abused child who was being abused by adults around the
world and it just continues. This is Greta and she's about to
embark on her trip to New York on a 50 foot sailing racing
boat.
Unknown: With a final goodbye said it was time for Greta
Thornburg to find her sea legs. Waiting just metres from the
Plymouth port in the UK was the Melissia to ready to take to the
high seas and deliver the Swedish teenager to the US but
this will be no pleasure cruise. There are no creature comforts
on board the 60 foot yacht which is built for high speed racing,
no shower, no kitchen and no toilet soap. pools of nature
will involve a bucket. Yeah, go
Adam Curry: poop in the bucket. Greta,
Unknown: I think it will be very quite an adventure it will be a
very new experience. For me at least, and I. And of course I
expect it to be challenging sometimes. And but also good
some, most of the time.
Freudenberg refuses to travel on planes because of the emissions
they produce. So flying to New York for the UN Climate Summit
was out of the question. That's when the crew of the Melissia to
stepped in and offered her a lift with a zero carbon
footprint. It's been nearly a year since Thunberg, started
skipping school on Fridays to protest global inaction on the
climate crisis. She says she realized that sailing the
Atlantic rather than flying is not an option open to everyone.
I mean, I'm not telling anyone what to do or what not to do.
I'm just doing this because I want to do this. myself. And I
am one of the very, very few people in the world who actually
can do this. And then I think I should take that chance to do
this. I don't see if anyone else has to see that I'm not. I'm not
that special. I can't convince everyone
in just 12 months, Greta Thornburg has gone from unknown
teenager to international environmental leader. She's
taking a year off school to travel through the US, Canada,
South America and Antarctica. She's not sure yet how she'll
get home.
Adam Curry: That's the kicker I was waiting for. Are you taking
the same boat back Greta? Now she's not sure what calm? Yes.
She's not sure it's not sure yet. She's going to get it gotta
be
John C. Dvorak: galling to people like the Caprio and all
these guys have their private jets and they all fly into some
little place in the Swiss Alps meeting about climate change.
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah, that's fantastic. For Greta,
John C. Dvorak: that she's gonna get sick on that he you know,
this day of the possibilities, which is a long shot, is that
she she gets through it actually makes that thing and actually
likes it so much that she becomes a sailor. That's
possible.
Adam Curry: By the way this the whole thing is sponsored by the
United Nations. I don't know they don't disclose that. But
you take a look at the boat. It's a United Nations sponsored
voyage.
John C. Dvorak: They probably have some top talent on there.
Yeah, Greta. Will besides her, I bet you they may get a pretty,
pretty good time if they make it at all. Yeah.
Adam Curry: All right, do your Fredo thing we might as well.
John C. Dvorak: Okay, so Koroma now, by the way, this is funny
because everybody followed up finding out that Columbo had
already sleepwalk guy who used to be the
Adam Curry: current guardian angel courteously. Well,
John C. Dvorak: yes. See, he had him on a talk show a number of
years back where he called him Fredo and he didn't get bent out
of shape about Eric call it Oh, really? slur. I didn't know. And
that was run on they ran that clip. I don't have a copy of it.
But they ran the clip on the on the New York Post. And he's been
ridiculed for this for a different number of different
angles. He's because he went nuts. He was either drunk, I
can't figure it out. But here's the entire thing. I took out
some of the bull crap that they put in on one of the clips, they
also took it off line, you can't find this clip anymore.
Adam Curry: You get it with the with the raw or did you get up
with all the beeps? With the what were the censored words? Or
did you get it wrong?
John C. Dvorak: No, no, I don't have this anything censored? Oh,
good. Cool. So he's like a very profane guy, which really, to
me, it's like, I'm listening to this guy, cus just non stop like
a trucker. And I'm thinking he's been we on his show. He's one of
the many CNN anchors who talks about oh, the the disc discourse
in this country has become so coarse because of Trump. Yeah.
And so discourse discourse because of Trump. And then you
listen to this guy, and here he is.
Unknown: pitches from the right call me freedom. My name is
Chris Cuomo. I'm an anchor. I like
Adam Curry: this is my favorite part. All the rest I didn't care
about. But I like it's like, my name is Chris Cuomo. I'm an
anchor on CNN. It's like who says that? Hey, my name is Adam
curry. I'm a podcaster. Yeah, who says that? It's like buddy,
No, buddy.
Unknown: Marcus pitches from the right call me freedom. My name
is Chris Cuomo. I'm an anchor on credo was from the godfather.
There was a weak brother that year and they use it as an
Italian whispers any you Italian? I gotta fucking
insulting you people. Fucking people. It's like the N word for
us to convey
you're much more reasonable guy in person than you seem to be on
television. You want to play to a fucking play.
He's got something you want to say about what I do on
television and say, Listen, you're gonna have a big fucking
problem.
What's different on TV? Let's
go for consult me like oh you pump fish like that your
nickname oh you told me Fredo Fredo your name was you did not
think my name was fucking Fredo nope be alive. I want to be a
man stand up like a man. Fucking own it then. Hey you're gonna
have a fucking problem what do you get off about a fucking ruin
you throw you down the stairs like a fucking pump PLEASE DO
YOU DON'T NEED TO FUCKING silver Why don't you do
you call me Fredo take the fucking take your fucking hands
take a swing fucking wreck your shifts? Fucking record. You
didn't know what to do. I thought I thought it was your
name you didn't
know what you were saying Right? I thought it was
Adam Curry: breaking it oh I know guys look this by the way
in Jersey there are guys like this who will talk just like
that but you know to say that President Trump has been
changing the discourse amongst human beings is correct. He's
infected Chris Cuomo
John C. Dvorak: Well if you look into it is the guy who calls him
Fredo constantly is Rush Limbaugh Yeah, and that's what
he started when he listed the very first thing Cuomo says he
says only punk right wingers call me that
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. The first time I heard Fredo I don't
listen to Rush Limbaugh was that's what? Left Twitter,
Twitter Democrats were calling Donald Trump Jr. They were
calling him Fredo the dumb brother and I'm sorry, either
Trump Jr. Eric may know Eric Yeah, they they call him Fredo
the dumb brother. Yeah. So and
John C. Dvorak: then Limbaugh I don't know if that was before
after Limbaugh started calling Chris Cuomo Fredo but that's
what he calls him Fredo Cuomo and so that got into the lexicon
but now unfortunately because of this although they took it down
and you know, they would somebody will repost it but the
is down mostly you will if this guy if if you should walk in,
especially in different parts of Manhattan or at any part of New
York, if he's walking down the street, you know, a guy across
the street is gonna shout something. Yeah, of course. A
Fredo. Yeah, so he's made an ass of himself. I'm surprised that
you know this is
Adam Curry: well then there's another. There's another
controversial story about a CNN anchor Don Lemon.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this story looks too big to be completely
fake.
Adam Curry: I love the story, though. Boy, the
John C. Dvorak: story is hilarious is one of the funnier
stories, but there's no chance in hell that any of this story
is true. It just doesn't make. I mean, lamb is not as I mean,
just Cuomo thing. We have it on tape. The other one is all just
Adam Curry: so according to the story, which I got from Fox
News, so that you know, take that into account. Don Lemon was
at a Hamptons. I think restaurant or bar and this is
last year, but a civil suit has been filed. So this is not just
an IT is an allegation, but it's an allegation has been taken
into the legal realm. And this guy says that yeah, I don't know
if he was hitting on Don Lemon. Or he said I would buy a drink.
Let me dry you. Buy you a lemon drop in this pretty gay so maybe
he was hitting on him. Apparently, Don Lemon then put
his hand on the front of his shorts, vigorously rubbed his
genitalia, removed his hand shoved his index and middle
fingers into plaintiff's mustache and said what do you
like to close your children's ears to see your dick? How? i It
seems like I can see him doing it. Now, I don't think it's
worth a civil lawsuit.
John C. Dvorak: Doing this do dumb. I like the story though. I
agree with you about that. But the stories about the story
itself in the complaint was filed so you can read this. But
I'm not buying it.
Adam Curry: Well with that. I would like to thank you for your
courage to say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the
conspiracy theories John C. Devorah.
John C. Dvorak: When the morning you Mr. And McCurry also in the
morning Illa chips as he boots on the ground. subs in the water
feet in the air and all the dames nights out there and
Adam Curry: a big hearty hefty in the morning to the trolls in
our troll room. had been very patient today. Let me see how
many we got in the troll room today. It's no agenda
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the art because, well, people submit. And let me see we had a
lot of egg timers and egg jokes, which didn't really feel all
that funny to us.
John C. Dvorak: We also it's it's, it's their semi lewd,
rude, rude. Yeah,
Adam Curry: unlike the show. And the one that we liked was this
one by data which, which showed the inside of a cell block kind
of in a there's a lot of layers to it. So the some of the bars
were had been sawed off. So this implies an extraction of
Epstein. And then on the wall, it says for a good time called
Lolita.
John C. Dvorak: That was a funny joke, we tied to his humerus,
the sick,
Adam Curry: sick, but right in line with what we like. So I
think this is the first score for data. Maybe it's the second
I'm not sure. But we truly appreciate the work. And the
work. He's
John C. Dvorak: done a number of pieces, and they're all okay,
they're all good. But they're the I don't know that he's
gotten any n. But so this may be one number at first or second.
Adam Curry: I'm sure. I know. He got the Spitz in Canada, I think
we use that once
John C. Dvorak: we say I don't either. Go look that one up. He
may have gotten that one. I think he did get that one.
Anyway, but he got down because it was just pretty. Yes.
Adam Curry: Well, we appreciate the work that all of our artists
do. And it is a part of our value for value network. It
works extremely well. We have websites, systems, clips,
artwork, just so many things that are being done by the
producers of the show, because that's what you are, you're all
producers, and no agenda are generated.com for our art making
producers, our art producing producers. And we also like to
thank our executive and Associate Executive producers
who help us financially and we do that, more or less than the
first tranche of the show. And who do we have to thank today?
Yes, it's a tranche to tranche
John C. Dvorak: gear in Norway, top of the list with $1,000. And
I cannot find a note worth him is there's no note on the Pay
Pal donation and there's no note in the documents. Well,
Adam Curry: is he then is that an instant aid? Or has he
already a night? I'm not sure if we?
John C. Dvorak: Well, this is going to be have to be answered
by an email from him to one of us.
Adam Curry: Let me just see if I don't think I've seen any email
from him. We do want to give him his props. Oh, wait. Wednesday
the 14th. Yes. That he there's a note here.
John C. Dvorak: Good. You have it? I don't have it.
Adam Curry: I do. I didn't realize this. Let's see. Yeah,
it's been a while I got pissed off at you when I felt you
mocked Greenwald and Snowden back in the critical days. What
did we mock them? Oh, sorry, I didn't know you're going to the
bathroom. Anyway, I don't recall us or we mock everybody. At some
point. I took the phone off the hook. Somebody rang it. So he
says that he got pissed off at us when, when he or maybe just
me. Now it's to both of us. He felt that we mocked Glenn
Greenwald and Ed Snowden back in the critical days. I think we've
been pretty appreciative of the work they did. I have followed
no agenda since San Francisco and Adam had a squirrel living
outside his window was a pigeon. I thought it was a pigeon but
okay. And I'm sure he's right about the mocking too. Despite
differences I have, of course followed you during the self
imposed embargo years. Being 100% aligned means something
like a religious conviction. I'm not all there. I like your
style, however, on how you question truths, adding analysis
through thought and reason, fresh inputs in a news world
from an increasingly dumbed down and five M. So keep up the good
work. I need karma. However, at the age of 66 G's prostate
cancer with spread has struck out of the blue with a vengeance
operation and treatment starting in a couple of days. Karma can't
hurt. So if possible, I'd like a Karma plus F cancer karma. And
his name is surf gear. So we become
John C. Dvorak: he was a night and then he gave up on us after
Snowden. I don't know what we said bad about Snowden or
Greenwald. But I mean, this could have been something that
they did that triggered us. That's possible. But, you know,
decent Norway it's a socialist state up there. They live off
the riches of their oil discoveries. They they have it's
a very it's I'm surprised we have any Norwegians that listen
to the show.
Adam Curry: I think we have plenty of Norwegians that listen
to the
John C. Dvorak: show I didn't say we didn't I've said I've
what I've said was I'm surprised you're surprised any that listen
to the show
Adam Curry: well sir gear Thank you very much for your support
this I'm going to make you a Baronet. Whether you like it or
not, so I'm putting you on the list and of course we will send
out all the karma you need and let's let's hope it does its
usual trick you've got karma online a second I think I think
he had somebody say something else here. PS I forgot to add
the appeal for all men to get checked for prostate health. So
simple. And so damn important Movember coming up and the
distinguished gentleman's ride in late September support
prostate health awareness. Too much stigma around this
unfortunately. Yes, I understand.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, especially we've been tested. Yeah. Okay,
anonymous in New York City at the another 1000 So this is made
the show Yeah, we were the Nala donations besides these two.
Credit the full amount of Sir Felix Wilson for making me smile
and brightening my day with his please for donations.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, so Felix becomes a knight.
John C. Dvorak: Now he's already a knighted sir Felix
Adam Curry: serve you mean Chris Wilson. Son is a knight already?
I don't think so.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, I Oh, no. Maybe that's what he means. He's
Okay mate will making him an instant night that must be it.
Adam Curry: Totally crap. What it What a show. That's fine. Put
that in there. Okay for you. But he was squire Felix Felix Wilson
becomes dude. That's nice. Some
John C. Dvorak: guy in New York City. That's fantastic. That
could be any number of people. Nice. That's very kind. Matthew
Wilberg comes in with $333.33 from Rutherglen Virginia,
Virginia and Virginia guy celebrating my 40th birthday
today with a no agenda donation bringing me to the level of
Knighthood ziana The youngest CSC is surely the best podcast
in the universe it reaches beyond our solar system. So I'd
like to be known as Sir Matt of the Zetta reticular particularly
zeta ridiculous star system.
Adam Curry: Done, if I can remember it,
John C. Dvorak: is it say that ridiculous or Zed? I think I say
that.
Adam Curry: I will say Zaida Zaida Zaida
John C. Dvorak: Harvey Smith drops down to Associate
Executive Producer producer with 23456 a DT douching please
you've been D deuced. Also needs an F cancer Keep up the great
deconstruction always superb meaning like to hear shape
shifting jus any Al Sharpton to and then he says endo Casa de F
cancer and then any and then thank you for your courage
shapeshifting ESP I see you've got
Unknown: karma. Right. Thank you Harvey.
John C. Dvorak: And to final our finalists. So she's executive
producer and also a proof of the random number theory. Andrew
Wilson in Melbourne, Australia has donated $200 and says Hi,
John and Adam, please can I get an F cancer karma? Cheese? Yeah,
you go.
Adam Curry: It's 3333
John C. Dvorak: The magic three that's why three celebrities
die. Coming from my mom just a random number. It's theory. I
mean, people should look into this for my mom who has just
finished her that's how you get on a crap table and you get
caught in one of these things in your walk away and millionaire.
Me F cancer coming from my mom has just finished her
chemotherapy and radiotherapy she's a awaiting her test
results and we have our fingers crossed from Andrew in
Melbourne. You bet man
Unknown: you've got karma
John C. Dvorak: in it includes her associate list of associate
and executive producers for show 1164
Adam Curry: Yeah, well this is good. Thank you to our execs and
associate execs because as John said you made the show for us.
This is fantastic. Thank you so much. That is highly appreciated
and we'll see some of you at the roundtable for your nice things
or your table, your peerage upgrades and remember that these
cry That's our credits you can put on your resume, and they
look good executive producer of the no agenda show. You can say,
Episode 1164. And it's your right to do it because you are,
it's just like Hollywood. And if anyone questions it, we'll be
happy to vouch for you. Again, thank you be thanking more
people $50 And above and you can always support us by going to
vorak.org/and. A Well, I'm pretty sure we know all about
how Trump is mind controlling everybody. So go propagate it,
Unknown: our formula is this, we go out, we get people in the
mouth.
John C. Dvorak: So So while on the topic of executive producing
Associate Executive Producer, I've been running through the
entire years and years of NCIS, following the various show
runners that come and go, Yes, and I was waiting for and
finally appeared the now the deceased, who died prematurely
for some unknown reason, but somewhat semi famous, Gary
glassberg, became the showrunner. And you could tell
this, by the way, I think this is a function of the Producers
Guild are one of them, they have these rules about how you
present the executive producer and Associate Executive
producers in general, you know, on the on the credit roll, you
mean, on the credit roll at the beginning of the show, not the
very beginning, but the beginning when the action
starts. In other words, they're overlaying the actual show, the
executive producer that debt appears, one before the writer.
So you have the executive produced and written by that
executive producers to show run
Adam Curry: and explain the show runner,
John C. Dvorak: Josh's show runner is the boss, he's the guy
who runs the show. I mean, he's actually the guy who's got an
office and everyone comes to him. He's just, he's the guy or
he's the show runner, he runs the place. He is the boss of the
of the show. And so he's every he's involved in every decision.
And he is involved in firing, hiring and picking scripts and
everything in between, and writing a lot. So in the early,
Gary glassberg finally shows up, he draws a kind of a note of
screwball humor into the show, and he always puts them and I
noticed that this joke comes up. And to me, it was like I rarely
rarely watch these things and then laugh out loud at stupid
stuff. But I do have the sense he is he drops in a blonde joke.
And, and I don't know how you can get away with even putting
this in the script. If you're not the show runner. Most of the
times this kind of stuff will be taken out. But the showrunner is
the guy. It's like being the editor of a magazine. You pretty
much you want to put some stupid in there. Yeah, sure. You can do
it. So he got it. So here's the scene. Somebody's this woman
they tracked down this woman her boyfriend has been found dead.
And so they bring her in for for a and she's a kind of a cute but
dumb blonde. So they bring her in, and he and tell her that the
boyfriend's dead. And here's how the dialogue goes.
Unknown: Oh my god. I can't believe he's dead. What was your
relationship with the deceased? You mean he's deceased to me.
Adam Curry: I don't think you can get away with that anymore.
John C. Dvorak: That is a rough go. I mean, that did put that
show. That's funny. Is very funny. And it was done. Well, it
was just right. Just straight through. Well, yeah.
Adam Curry: I mean, you know, back in the day, Two and a Half
Men, it's on TV Land, although almost unwatchable, as they now
have 55 Zero commercials per hour on TV Land. They're trying
to get the doing all the mate goods for MTV Networks. Viacom.
Yeah. So they're just jamming it all in there. Oh, those stoners
they won't care, you know that they've commercial pods of 15
spots. But some of the dialogue there is really I mean, it would
be labeled a huge homophobe show if it aired today, in
John C. Dvorak: addition to never heard about this show, it
is extremely it's probably the route of show that's ever been
put on television in the modern
Adam Curry: era. Yeah, I would say that's that's pretty
accurate. But especially the gay jokes are just off the hook.
Yeah. Anyway, yesterday, there was some interesting news that
came out. The previously in the shadows, spot 5% voice slowed
down whistleblower from the Google's return to Project
Veritas, unmasked himself showed himself and brought a dump of
documents that we shall discuss after this quick clip, where he
is reintroduced. As the now, man been touting whistleblower from
Google,
Unknown: I felt that our entire election system was going to be
compromised forever, by this company that told the American
public that it was not going to do any evil. This is the best
thing that I can do in the situation that I'm currently at.
And the thing is, is that the American public needs to
understand what's happening, I'm going to publish this
information so that other people can see the system that Google
has built, in order to control the entire information
landscape. This is something that once people see it's going
to bring, it doesn't matter whether you're left or whether
you're right. When you see this, both sides are going to agree
that this is wrong. So my message to those that are on the
fence is I released the documents, they can go in, they
can see everything that Google is doing. And then they can see
the scale of it. Because I think that there's a lot of engineers
that have a hint that things are wrong, but they don't understand
the colossal scale that it's at. And so for those people, I say,
look at the documents, like, like, take the pulse of
Americans see what's happening, and come and, and tell the
world, you know what you already know to be true. And I know that
people have been waiting for, you know, this Google Snowden
moment where somebody comes out and explains what everybody
already knows, to be true. And I'm hoping that those that want
to do something are going to be compelled to act, and that we
together can come together and defend ourselves. In the case of
litigation, you know, they can stop, like one or two of us, but
they can't stop all of us coming out and explaining to the
American public that this is what's happening that Google is
not who they say they are, you're gonna be hero, it's gonna
be fine. Like, like, you know, clear your conscious, you'll be
able to live with that for the rest of your life that you did
the right thing.
Adam Curry: Very dramatic. So I look at every single one of the
documents, every single one. And I'll give you my take on I'd
love to hear your take first of all, yeah, there were
John C. Dvorak: a caf. Do you have any of those documents that
you can open? Yeah, I can open all of them. Why can you open
because there's one I want to discuss. Okay. The one on how to
do protests.
Adam Curry: Okay, and I can bring that up. What does that
under though? Do you remember is that under censorship?
John C. Dvorak: Now it's under, it's one of the lower folders up
to Okay, once you talk now go over there.
Adam Curry: Go ahead and take a look. Okay. Now, there are a few
internal documents, you know, basically private Google Groups,
where employees are clearly biased about their political
bias. And, you know, they're saying, oh, send this off to the
team, we've got to get rid of this. We've got to stop that.
Now. I'm sure that that happens everywhere. But I found it
really interesting, because it really showed how the Google
machine operates. And a lot of it operates specifically to not
piss off the advertisers. There's a lot of examples of how
AdWords screw up become incredibly biased in the result
of this, it shows up with biased results. There's an interesting
example where women were shown only ads for lower paying jobs
on a certain ad word combination. And, you know, I
was like, Yeah, I understand that. If there's a percentage of
he was the My favorite example, actually, of algorithmic bias,
where they, and there's even a test which I recognized
immediately because I live with someone who is this has this
Mary tour, and they show you a whole bunch of mugs, and they
say spot the bias and you look at it and I saw it immediately.
Is all of the mugs are right handed mugs, except for one,
which is as the handle on the left. And that's a bias. I
understand because my my lovely wife Tina, the keeper is left
handed. So and then I don't know what the percentage is of
lefties. Maybe it's 30% of the of the world. I'm just taking a
guess. So the question they're asking is if there's reasonable
debate in these documents, should you show 30% Left Handed
mugs or should you be fair, so quote, unquote, machine learning
fairness, and show 50% of each and they have a number of
examples of that. What really surprised me though, is they do
have black checklists. And these black lists are very up to the
minute up to date, a lot of these documents for 24 from
2018, they were suppressing every single story, which was a
lot of good mainstream stories about the Vegas shooting about
the San Bernardino shooting. Now, again, these are documents
that are a little bit dated. So I don't know if they do that for
every shooting or not. That was not clear. But they did have a
very long list including Milo and just people who are going to
be d ranked. Now, I rescind my original thinking. It is not
just the data, which they also clearly show their news sources,
and they rank those news sources. And at the top, you
have the New York Times you have the Washington Post, much lower
down on the rank is news sources such as Fox News. Breitbart has
a negative number of negative five, yeah, Infowars and
negative 1.8. But what's cool is they have these things called
swindlers. And this is where I really focus my attention TWID
de le R. And the DW Riddler is a you can add a what they say call
a document, which could also be a URL, and you can
instantaneously down rank something and actually the
dribbler will do the calculation to know where to put it. But you
can also trigger it and say, put it on the second page, which of
course, rarely does anyone get to the bottom and go looking for
the next page. That's usually the as we know from research is
the first or the second link that people always click on and
take that as truth. And I think that there's hundreds of people
within Google who could do that. And they show quite clearly that
they do down rank things. And And surprisingly, I love seeing
how they are tracking Facebook, and in particular Twitter, they
look for trending. And when something trends, they will take
that trend and they will use to push that to the top of the
search autocomplete box. And you also have to take into account
that a lot of these searches will also be go through another
level of algorithmic possible bias and tailor it towards you
as an individual. So yes, Google is giving you biased results in
many different areas. The reasons are a it is the sources
that they use when it comes to news. They are using a majority
of more left leaning news sources with higher ranking than
right leaning news sources, at least according to the
documents. Yes. They are messing around with the search results
through these Twizzlers. And yes, they do it frequently. And
they do it often at a just a whim. They also do funny stuff
like when Trump came out with Kofi, which turns out to mean
something in Arabic. They wanted to do an automatic translation
to the emoji of the guy shrugging, like, ah, that'd be
really funny as a as a search result of the little easter eggs
and they have jokes with it. But when you do that kind of stuff,
then you could do all that. Then these jokes. You can do
anything. Yeah. So
John C. Dvorak: Google Niko fafi thing was ridiculous. But they
really love playing with that. And, and screwing with people.
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. screwing with people. So yes, I would
have to say surprisingly, it's very easy to introduce bias
results within Google, as long as you have an access to a
dribbler. And doodler is written in C plus plus. So it's, it's
probably in the pipeline somehow, as as a binary if you
don't really know what it's doing, although I've read some
of the FA cues for how to operate them. But there's tons
of these things, as many of these dribblers and hundreds of
people have access to it. So absolutely, Google cannot be
trusted. And I would say mainly, when it comes to spur of the
moment, the latest breaking news, they flood their their
homepage with their favorite news sources and everything else
gets drowned out. That may not be their intent, but that's the
result of it. Now, is this a Snowden moment? No. I don't see
anything any news organization can present to the public as a
Snowden moment. But definitely, they're biased and the results
are biased. And you can't trust them. You need to look at other
search engines.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I use mostly Bing and I don't trust it
so much, but Google's horrible, and then they track you it's
really pathetic. I just really gone downhill.
Adam Curry: What else did you see?
John C. Dvorak: Well, I got a kick out of their naivete, or
kind of their like foe left leaning our liberals document
It's Beginner's Guide to protesting how to guide plus
what to expect plus how you can help and they have apparently a
go to team they got a tiger team go at resist@google.com to Tiger
and so you can go out there and and they do want you to protest
and a left. It's really everything is about left leaning
protesting and they just want you to go protest. And then they
have this the thing that got me was the experts now this experts
guide to chanting, there's nothing more sad than when a
protest looks like a quiet group of folks hobbling through the
streets holding a few rolled up signs. So do the opposite. Be
energetic, clap your hands, make noise chant with the chanting
and participate with enthusiasm. You can smile and enjoy the
camaraderie, comrade. But also remember, there's a protest, so
it isn't the same as hanging out with your friends that goes on.
But then they had these example chants, which to me was like,
this is people these are people that have never really been in
that scene. And so I think the whole thing is kind of like
Hobbit cobbled together because they have this you know the the
protest, you've heard this there's all these different
chants a couple of new very what do we want justice? When do we
want it now? What do we want? That is the you shall start
something where we want now. So they have this one? You've heard
this one before it you've heard Hey, hey, ho ho, bah blah, blah,
blah has got to go hey, ho. You've heard this right? Yes.
Yeah. Here's the way they have it. Oh, hey, hey. Oh, that
Muslim Ban has got to go Oh, hey, hey. Oh?
Adam Curry: Is that some code that I'm not interpreting
properly get
John C. Dvorak: this as this is them dry labbing or maybe
they've been
Adam Curry: maybe they're trying to copyright it? Oh, hey, pay
Oh, dry lab. People what is dry? labbing I'd like it or what is
it?
John C. Dvorak: Oh dry labbing dry labbing is where you like if
say you're working for the government and you're you're
supposed to test the effluent water you know at the end of the
month? Yeah. And so you just write down the numbers that you
got last month and you don't do anything you just dry lab and
dry lab means you just use a pen and pencil right and send that
into the work
Adam Curry: I was never I've never heard that term it sounds
kind of sexual term.
John C. Dvorak: Well, college kids who took chemistry do a lot
of dry lab are they doing the work you're just making it up?
That's only going here but they do but they think this the
orientation is interesting because that Muslim Ban has got
to go since about the Muslim ban right and then they have No ban
no wall No ban no sanctuary for all this is a proposed example
chant. No ban no wall America's for all. No hate no fear.
Refugees are welcome here. No hate no fear. Immigrants are
welcome here. from Palestine to Mexico, all the walls have got
to go. I mean, come on. This is
Adam Curry: you gotta you gotta have cue cards for this shit,
man. You can't remember that when you're out there in the
fray?
John C. Dvorak: Well, when you go to one of these things,
there's always somebody with a card, a cue card, just as you
said, Yeah, who has the megaphone and they do the chants
and then you just follow us now to
Adam Curry: explain the context of this again, is just so we
understand where this appeared in the documents
John C. Dvorak: just showed up under under one of the is under
one of that we have the folder name it'll tell you partisanship
showed up in the partisanship folder. And it's called the
beginner's guide to protesting and it's a resist@google.com is
a document take
Adam Curry: over the internal internal resistors I got you I
got so you
John C. Dvorak: can go out there and protest and ask for open
borders. I mean, what is wrong with Google?
Adam Curry: Well, looks to me like Google wants lots of
programmers to come in
John C. Dvorak: are free cheap labor from Mexico. Whatever the
case it's true. I find it abhorrent and I also found it
was somewhat annoying that they have the Hey, oh, hey, I can
tell you didn't like me said they don't know what they're
talking about. I know more than that.
Adam Curry: Well, the no agenda show has a position and always
takes a stand and gives you a recommendation when it comes to
bias search results from Google. I say bring it bring it good.
Yes, right, everybody. Bing it. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: I'd say Bing it to. I use Bing like I'd say use
Bing 90% of the time. I use Bing images all the time. It's really
dynamite.
Adam Curry: I like quant
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I'm warming up to it. Oh,
Adam Curry: you've been using been trying it. Corn. Yeah,
that's pretty silly.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, sir. checks every so often. Yeah. But um I
use search X when I because I have search X set up so it
doesn't talk to Bing or Google or Annie.
Adam Curry: Right? Yeah. In fact, it purposely eliminates
them. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: So you can check, turn all those off. And
so the only thing it searches is like academic, you know,
academic search engines and all kinds of crazy stuff. So when
you're looking for something very obscure, that's the way you
might find it with search X. If you turn off all the normal so
it's
Adam Curry: s e a r x dots is it.io.
John C. Dvorak: I want to say it's dot something. Yet we see
your
Adam Curry: x thing it's your x dot i o me just check. No, it's
search.
John C. Dvorak: Could be DICOM.
Adam Curry: I don't think we need to know this. Well, you're
digging around this year. x.com. No, maybe I'm saying it right.
Wrong. Now maybe it was Sergei RX. SC AR Yeah, that's what I
have. You sure that's how you spell it?
John C. Dvorak: I'm pretty sure. Let me find them a Glock
Adam Curry: o.me. I think C or x.me. Yeah, there you go. SC ar
x.me. Yeah, that's, yeah, you can you can, I mean, the thing
to do is to install this on a machine at home, because
whoever's running the version that you're connecting to, can
definitely see what you're doing. And it's in by default,
that does spit it out to a log file. So I don't quite like that
very much. I'm sure I'm sure that you know it cuz I don't
know who's who has. At least I know Microsoft is a CPA, You
took the words out of my mouth FDA. Anyway. Now will this get
done? This was finally traction worthy. I think of all the
things Project Veritas has done all undercover videos are shit.
They, they they always give the illusion of deceptive editing,
because it does jump around the audio is crap. So you can't
really, you know, Rush Limbaugh can't use them. They don't
propagate, they don't go anywhere. And these documents,
at least Yeah, they can get around, people can extrapolate
stuff from them. But for sure, you need to be looking at
different search engines. So I think we would recommend being
for your quick down and dirty knees. Then I think you're
particularly enamored by the image search on the Bing, which
is not very good on C or x.me. But C or x.me is very
customizable, and I agree take out all the others all the
mainstream search engines, and any leftover with some
interesting choices and results. And then quant I don't know,
Quanta seems pretty straightforward. I've been
getting good results from from quant.
John C. Dvorak: So I like that a lot. I like those a lot. Well,
anything but these guys it's ridiculous.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And, and just like there's not even a need
anymore for things like the PROMIS software, really? I mean,
yeah, for corporate espionage. But even that, you know, you
just go to google it. There's document there's documents in
that archive that talk about issues with scanning people's
Gmail from four years ago. It's like, yeah, we're not getting
we're not getting the right results out of the Gmail scans
like kids. They just look into your email. And the sad thing is
most most young people today go yeah, whatever. Data they know
everything that listening anyway, they know everything
anyway. It's not the way to go people and it's not the way to
go.
John C. Dvorak: But okay. All right. So we talked about algae
a little earlier. I gotta go retro clip. I've been running
too many of these. But I want to remind people this 10 years ago
when we talked about Blue Green Algae there was the I don't know
what happened to this but this seemed to have like died gone by
the wayside even though it apparently was quote unquote,
promising technology. You remember this?
Adam Curry: Well, let's listen to the clip.
Unknown: But what we're doing here with the fold at General
Motors with the the new battery storage, the hybrids, we drove
in a car the other day, Congressman Inslee, and Israel
and I drove went from California, to Washington DC, on
algae. On algae, you know how you grow the algae. You pump a
bunch of co2 in it, and it grows the algae. So here you have an
opportunity to learn to make cars that run on algae, grow the
algae in places like Ohio that unfortunately or maybe
fortunately at some point, give off all the co2, grow the algae,
put it in cars, and we have a clean economy.
Adam Curry: Wow, I forgotten all about that. I see.
John C. Dvorak: Hello, what happened?
Adam Curry: I see you know their old algae clip here. Let me see
what this is. Hey, we should invest in algae. Is there any
company we can invest in? That makes aloe gel?
John C. Dvorak: There's nothing. I don't know what he's talking
about to be honest about
Adam Curry: it. I've read that. I don't know
John C. Dvorak: of any algae engines. Yes. Yeah, sure. Yeah,
right. Yeah, dude.
Adam Curry: It's an old no agenda clip, apparently. Dude,
dude, dude. So where did the algae engines go? How come Elon
Musk was not?
John C. Dvorak: The whole thing was a scam, guys,
Adam Curry: but they drove all the way across the country.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, with Inslee, by the way. Yeah. Who's
running for president now under the green New Deal, the green
New Deal Guy. Global warming. That's the number one thing to
be concerned about. And so what happened to the algae? I don't
know.
Adam Curry: Hey, did you I don't have a clip or anything. But I'm
sure you would Horowitz have talked about Beyond Meat because
they had a pretty interesting IPO. And they, I think very
successful with their public offering. Correct? Yeah. Yeah.
What I did not know is that Kleiner Perkins and Al Gore's
sustainability fund are massive investors in the Beyond Meat
company.
John C. Dvorak: Well, looks like they got out with a with a
profit. Yeah, but
Adam Curry: the timing of it, you know, they they made their
investments. And it had the that time very interestingly, with
the IPCC report, which very clearly spelled out that we need
to rethink how we use our agriculture and we shouldn't be
going meatless. Yeah. And so it was like they invest you get the
IPCC report and then the Beyond The Beyond Meat goes public. I
think that's an investigation worthy
John C. Dvorak: what's their event was let's say that they
take Gore knew about this report before it came out. What's to
investigate this is like this is the similar to the reason that
they allow congressmen to invest on bills and stuff that are
enacted is not true insider information. Well, insider
information is technically when you know something that company
is about to do.
Adam Curry: Well, he knew they were let's the way I would see
it as this. And you know, yeah, okay. There's no reason
investigate. I'm just connecting the dots, man, leave me alone.
In the dots man, how Gore's just no good.
John C. Dvorak: Al Gore's has been pretty savvy, as an
investor,
Adam Curry: very savvy as an investor. He's also apparently
humps chambermaids, like a horny poodle. But we don't talk
John C. Dvorak: about that. I'm gonna wear them to that story
and how and Al Gore was somehow involved in the Epstein thing,
and they kept his name out of it.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. You
got it. You got to take on Hong Kong, because that's heating up
that I do. I
John C. Dvorak: have one of the latest. This is a Hong Kong
report from Canada. And it is called something on where's it?
Adam Curry: I don't know. Looking forward. Oh, China trade
dispute, perhaps?
John C. Dvorak: I don't believe so. But, but let's play it.
Unknown: Global Markets heaved a giant sigh of relief today.
Indeed, the entire global economy has spent the summer
increasingly on edge as the world's two biggest superpowers
square off.
This feels like we were eyeball to eyeball with China, and the
President just blinked.
Trump says he's really just standing up for American
consumers.
In case some of the tariffs would have an impact on
us. If nothing else backing down feeds into a narrative that the
US is an unreliable negotiator. Trump's tendency to shoot from
the hip makes the US sometimes seem a rat.
John C. Dvorak: I think China has had a very steady position.
It's uncertain what the US position was. There's so much
bluster so much bluff.
Unknown: China is the opposite. No bluff, no bluster in Beijing.
There's a perception that the US is a threat to the global
economy. For Cuba. If the US insists on escalating the trade
dispute, this government official says China will have to
take countermeasures.
Adam Curry: Yeah, and then we just step up all the pressure in
Hong Kong, we got people waving American flags. It's so obvious
that we're all over this thing. And it's kind of well done.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't think we're as responsible and
the American flags may be a plant and one of them was done
by some nutcase.
Adam Curry: Well, we also had, you know, people from the
embassy handing out cookies just like Victoria Nudelman at the at
the my dogs.
John C. Dvorak: Crow is a good thing. Did I just ghost clip
because I did because I don't know where it is. But the point
is, is that they're taking new, they've done some new stuff. The
Chinese government has planted people into the Protesters in
which they get caught somehow because I think most of them
speak Mandarin, they can't get. Cantonese is no good. So they
get isolated and beat up. And they also decided to go after
the airport, which they have cleared the sense but the
airport has been a good target because it stopped all
international flights booked the bankers. Everybody worked a lot
of everybody and then there's just been it's never has not
stopped.
Adam Curry: No, it's ongoing. And I think they actually have
gone back into the airport now and again, and and you know,
there's pretty credible reports of truth build up.
John C. Dvorak: By the way, just as a travel tip, yes. Even
though apparently you might get beat up if you're white. But if
you can get into Hong Kong, you can get rooms at the Ritz one of
the better in Hong Kong. And I'm sure that the Mandarin, we also
be available for like less than $70 a night. Yeah, you can get a
cheap living right now. You can get the Hong Kong Wow, you will
get into some of the most luxurious of hotels and did. And
by the way, there's very few better than the ones in Hong
Kong. Very cheap. So Wow. Let's take a quick trip.
Adam Curry: I mean, that's that's that's almost. I mean,
how big are the rooms? I really small. I mean, 70 bucks. Now I
think
John C. Dvorak: they do Gera think they're empty, and they're
just given rooms away?
Adam Curry: Hmm. So it's like 2100 bucks a month? I don't
know. I'm just saying that's good. Do we could go live there
for a while. Hey, you meet John, what do you say?
John C. Dvorak: Let's go.
Adam Curry: One other thing I learned this week. And this
relates directly to the unhoused. I learned, you know, I
started a little side hustle with Moe, we're doing a show
called mo fact. And which is really more his show, I would
say Moe Factz with Adam curry. So I sit back and relax. He does
the work. But I learned that the Trump tax cuts may be
responsible for an increase in unhoused in the country. And let
me explain how it works. I didn't know anything about this.
Part of the deal with the Trump tax cuts is you could bring your
money back into the United States. And in order not to be
susceptible to taxes, you could put them into an opportunity
zone fund. And the opportunity zone fund is intended to invest
money directly into areas that have lower median wage, more
poverty, Section Eight housing, etc. And the way they did it is
what's interesting is they said to the states, okay, you create
your zones, your opportunity zones, and, and then we'll so
it's really up to you. And the way it works for the investor is
you put your money into the opportunity zone fund. And
that's your and it's only capital gains, by the way
capital gains, so you're not taxed on the capital gains, you
put it into the fund, after 10 years, you can take it out
without any tax hit, which for you know, real estate investors,
guys like Trump is a very good deal. The problem is, you leave
it up to the states. And and it goes down to the Mr. minutes,
municipalities in the cities. And I looked it up Austin alone
has over 800 opportunity zones. We're in one, we bought a house
in an opportunity zone. And what appears to be happening is once
you can figure out what fund is connected to your zone, and they
range from $7,000 to several 100 million dollars. That's gonna
get gentrified. And depending on how you how you use it, and what
rules you put around these funds, and what they have to do
in Austin as an example. The if they're going to do if they're
going to do something with a fund in an apartment complex,
they have to spend a minimum of $6,000 per komplet per unit.
Well, at that point, they're probably just tearing the shift
down and building up new or nicer apartments, which only the
overpaid low tech millennial workers can afford, who are now
moving into Austin for, you know, to fill up the 5000 person
building the Google just put in there. So in a way, it appears
that the Trump tax cuts are actually gentrifying
neighborhoods all across the country and pushing people into
tents.
John C. Dvorak: As well, it's obviously based on that it's
contributory. But gentrification is not like a new phenomenon
that came about just because the Trump no but
Adam Curry: it no Oh, absolutely not, but it might have certainly
accelerated a lot of things.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I have to only look at the, at the
homeless population and his causations. In California where,
like you second third tier homeless groups, which don't
even qualify as genuine. We have almost half of the homeless
population in the entire country well, and well deserved is in
California. Yeah. And I would attribute it mostly to Democrat.
Management.
Adam Curry: Oh, well, yes. And the decisions they make, I
completely agree. The most recent council meeting of
Austin, they all they agreed to, to for the homelessness problem
is to create a corporation that will then raise money to put
into programs. And that will be a 501 C three, it'll be separate
from the government, they're actually going to be competing
with other programs out there. Which is kind of unfair
competition. And you know, they really just kick the can down
the road, okay, now go go go raise money, you know, go get
some not not going to use community money. Now you go
raise some some money from people. And then you can go and
set up programs and not even putting money against it. It's
unbelievable. Although I did get a nice note, a couple of
producers that connected me to the CEO of the community, first
village, Mobile Loaves and Fishes we talked about where
they had the tiny homes and so he's enthusiastically reached
out to me, and I'm gonna go over there and tour it and see how it
works is something there's working?
John C. Dvorak: No. Okay, go check that out. Yeah. record a
clip.
Adam Curry: I was thinking about it. I mean, it's, I'll bring
something along to record. Just zoom. I don't want to have a
zoom. I don't want to interview the guy. I mean, if
John C. Dvorak: we just say when he says something interesting.
Say Can you put this on? Can you give me this? Could you say that
again? Man? Can
Adam Curry: you say that again? I'll count you down. 321.
John C. Dvorak: I've done that. I'm sure nobody objects to it.
Everybody's media savvy. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And this
particular guy's obviously looking for media. Yeah. So I
wouldn't think twice about pulling that
Adam Curry: he's looking to read they're doing a capital raise.
That's what he's looking for that they're going to expand.
John C. Dvorak: I just want your money. You know, nevermind.
Adam Curry: Sorry about that. I'm gonna show
Unknown: my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the
people who could do that. Oh, yeah. That'd be fun.
John C. Dvorak: Couple of things, some hope some
housekeeping first. Of course, I immediately moved the paper and
I can't find it.
Adam Curry: Okay, was there something?
John C. Dvorak: Here it is? This is a make good we got to do.
Okay. It's ro Rudolph messily Wassily bacilli in the morning.
I'm assuming my email is no go through since I've received any
replies that don't know who you are. Bla bla bla. I sent a
donation of five 353 33. Last week and John read on Thursday,
the first half of my message. The second half wasn't read,
which is okay. Except that I didn't get jobs karma. I
requested a correction on Saturday. But I'd mailing you
both. But I didn't hear on the Sunday show. So here he is. We
can give it this is Rudolph's jobs, karma,
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
Karma.
John C. Dvorak: Do we do these maintenance? Like, you know,
people don't don't have a problem with this?
Adam Curry: No, it's important. Otherwise, we'll have strong
belief in jobs karma, and there's ample evidence to show
their work. So yeah, I get it.
John C. Dvorak: I get another note from a Mondo whose main
comment says please give a big thanks to April on YouTube for
uploading no agenda episodes every week.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Thank you, April. Nice.
John C. Dvorak: He says I had 10 gorditas today, he's got a PS. I
had 10 gorditas. Today, have you had Mexican gorditas Of course,
when I'm in the bay, San Francisco Bay area, I will be
researching a way to send some fresh gourd dittos out to you
and Adam. Thank you for your courage. Hey, just be awfully
good.
Adam Curry: I just got some note from Agent Orange. You know, the
our intelligence guy. Yeah. Just spoke to New York City assistant
director, Assistant Deputy Attorney who he's worked with
before on a different project. He says Epstein was choked.
Okay. You heard it here first. Trump was Trump will be
retweeting it soon
Unknown: as joked Good
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John C. Dvorak: all right. He's murdered his face it so
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Adam Curry: know he doesn't quite make it with the one
John C. Dvorak: too bad you could add a few pennies. I guess
it used to be the $200 range. Yeah, Albert out a versa $111.64
Adam Curry: He said he got 13.33 gallons of gas for $33.31 and
took the hint.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, of course. You have to take the hint. And
interestingly the big trouble with the universe if you don't
take the hint and he
Adam Curry: says I'm way past knighthood but haven't connected
with the Eric the shill. Well, you should do that, man. Let's
get this going. Pick your name. Send it off. Let's do this.
John C. Dvorak: And you connect with him for the rain. You don't
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
Adam Curry: In the month of August, it's the 15th of August
2019 quickie list today Arthur sings celebrates and Matthew
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appreciated. Yes, the meetups continue and people are liking
them. I've got a report from Chicago John Adam. I written
this up. After listen to Sunday show the Chicago meetup after
action report. The Chicago meetup on Saturday went great.
We had 15 to 20 folks show up every one was extremely friendly
and eager to discuss the news of the day the Epstein death. And
no agenda thinking was on display with some great
theories, some of which you mentioned on Sunday, we had a
diverse group of folks ranging from 20 somethings to 70
Somethings. Lots of dudes named Ben, but we also had a sales
guy, a crane operator and a heart maker. I love our
producers. We also had a very brave young man wearing a
rainbow Magga hat in the city of Chicago. Bottom line. Yeah, this
reminds me of remember Kentucky Fried movie. Ya know, where the
Daredevil? Vaguely now, you should go look it up. I can't
even say it what they said on that. Bottom line was the meetup
was a great opportunity to meet like minded folks who would
otherwise not have the chance to get together to grab a drink.
Get to know one another. discuss issues in person that you really
wouldn't be able to. We'd love to have more people the next
Chicago meetup which we'll try to schedule on a Friday evening,
I know I hear you mean you want us to come and the keeper and I
do want to come to one of these
John C. Dvorak: Chicago meetup. I was looking at some of our
numbers. And if it comes to like responses to the mailing list,
the number one place that we have listeners that insofar as
the mailing list is concerned is Chicago.
Adam Curry: Really? Yeah. So nice. That's interesting. I
didn't realize that Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Number five Seattle and the in betweens a
bunch is like Georgia, Georgia and is play a you know, mostly
GA A's. Like we got to rethink where we go to these meetups.
Adam Curry: Well, probably as we speak a meetup is taking place
in southeast London. It's their regular rotation. Also Dearborn,
Michigan on the 17th. So that's Saturday, San Antonio, Texas,
which is Fridays I could probably do Saturday's are
tough. The 18th Victoria, BC, August 22, Charleston, South
Carolina and one in Toronto. On the 23rd in Salem, Oregon,
August 25. Is Lincoln, Nebraska. Then we have oh, August 29.
John, you're gonna want to be there. This is a brand new entry
on the meetup list. There's going to be a meetup at Burning
Man. Yeah. I think that's a meet up you got to go represent.
Can't wait to get the report from that send picture
John C. Dvorak: be the first and probably only naked meet up.
Adam Curry: I can't wait. send pictures as we say, finishing
out the month of August as we have Busan, South Korea and San
Paolo both occurring on the 31st and backup to Seattle on
September 5, Calgary, Alberta and Nelson, British Columbia on
September 6, and the 14th is in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So the
meetups are cranking. If you want to find out more about a
meetup, go to no agenda meetups.com If you don't find
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that what club can you go to that will have a range of people
in their 20s to their 70s and you can talk with all of them.
Tell me what club that is? None. Can you think of any example
John?
John C. Dvorak: Well, even as some of the more elaborate
clubs, they have different you know that you don't have quite
the same politics necess thoroughly of neutrality. I
can't think of well, maybe I mean, yeah, I think the
Democratic National Committee, those guys, that's a club they
all talk amongst us. They all agree on everything. Bad.
Adam Curry: Yes, Orange Man bad. Hey, get your demand bad. Get
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John C. Dvorak: Okay, I have a clip that I think is suppressed
news. Just one. Well, I'm one that's a biggie. And I don't
think you've told me you've heard this. They've cured Yes.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I actually have it on the list for today.
But I don't have a clip
Unknown: that's outside a treatment center in Goma where
people cheered and sang songs as a mother and child walked out,
both apparently cured of the deadly hemorrhagic fever. They
were treated with new anti Ebola drugs that show survival rates
as high as 90% in the clinical trial, Christine barrack, now on
whether this will be a turning point in the outbreak.
You don't often hear the word cure, but it's being used to
describe two experimental Ebola drugs. Both are now being
offered to patients infected with a deadly virus.
There's no doubt that this is a major advance. This is something
we've never had before.
A study found when patients were treated within three days of
being infected. 94% of those given the Regeneron drug
survived, as did 89% of patients taking monoclonal antibody 114
results, so impressive the trial was stopped to other less
effective drugs were dropped, including Z map, which was
largely developed by Canadian scientists,
all these other treatments Regeneron rd 114 and everything
else that is coming up is coming up because Zima was a
trailblazer.
So what makes these new drugs better both require only a
single dose, neither needs to be stored frozen like the older
drugs did, making them easier to transport in hot temperatures.
Where they differ is in how they fight the virus. monoclonal
antibody 114 uses a single antibody taken from the blood of
an Ebola survivor Regeneron drug attacks a deadly virus using
three antibodies each can bind to different sites on the virus
increasing the chances of blocking off a mutated Ebola
virus.
For the first time we have something that we can use to
directly fight against the virus. And so for me that that's
incredibly it gives me an incredible amount of hope.
The current Ebola outbreak in Congo with the second largest in
history, killing at least 1800 people and infecting about 2800.
Doctors say controlling the spread of the disease has been
hampered by militia violence and local resistance to outside
help.
Adam Curry: Yeah, what's interesting is the stock price
has barely moved on this thing I don't understand. And maybe
that's because it is depressing news. But they're public
company.
John C. Dvorak: Regeneron.
Adam Curry: Yeah, our E g n is there. Let's see what they're
doing today. Stock price, R E, G, and that's because now it's
like looking at this stuff. Okay. Well, that's a pretty
pricey stock. This is $293.
John C. Dvorak: And those don't move but there has already been
factored in.
Adam Curry: Let's Yeah, let me see. Well, it No, if you look at
their look at the year to date, they dropped like a rock in
April, and the trend is still down. So I don't understand if
they cured Ebola. Why is their stock being suppressed? I mean,
why is it Why is this
John C. Dvorak: not like a miss not like it's not the same as a
as a erection dysfunction drug where you can sell billions of
pills. These are a few shots who do 1800 People who got the
disease No, I mean, there's more money in the vaccine and where
you need to get for you heard from the other clip from that
Canadian company guy says, oh, we need to make more than
300,000 of these course this Regeneron killed their business.
Adam Curry: Yes, see them see me see map is well, because the map
was a was the vaccine and this is not a vaccine, this is a
cure. I mean, you still have cures like, you still gotta get
it first and you still could be one of the 6% that doesn't get
cured. But okay.
John C. Dvorak: Promoting vaccines is tough in Africa, and
South Asia, for that matter, thanks to the CIA's program that
this has been discussed and some alternative news sites and
nobody talks about the United States anymore, where the CIA
went all over the Middle East and elsewhere with these
vaccines, are you going to vaccinate it for this and that
and it wasn't a vaccination at all. It was just a cap get your
DNA so that your fear at were bin Laden was a story but it's a
fact and it's caused nothing but trouble ever since then people
desperately don't trust the outbreak. They blame the
outbreak of polio in Pakistan on the CIA program that when they
were looking for Bin Laden, and they weren't vaccinating
anybody, you should
Adam Curry: hear what they say about Bill Gates in Africa. And
that's what happy about him either.
John C. Dvorak: So you have these issues going on. It's
like, But meanwhile, this story is I thought was suppressed. I
hear about this on even Democracy Now. What? I didn't
hear about democracy now.
Adam Curry: It's probably because they figured, hey, we
can send the troops in pretty quick with this bogus claim of
everyone dying of Ebola. And now these guys are gonna go and ruin
it now. Come on,
John C. Dvorak: somebody ruined it.
Adam Curry: Now, we've always been looking for.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, by the way, before you go off to this topic,
I do want to say the way they came up with this, this this
cure seemed I find it suspicious, because I'm not. I'm
to put it in a weird way. I'm not unconvinced that Ebola
wasn't developed in Fort Dietrich.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. No, you've always been on that tip. You
always been on that tip. Okay, a couple things about SSRIs
antidepressants, brain altering drugs for people who have
depression, not necessarily talking about clinical
depression but the kind of depression that everyone gets
prescribed these drugs for certainly in the United States.
There does seem to be there's a study that does link the side
effects of some of the SSRIs with violence, I can find the
exact passage for you here. Violence especially random
violence is a complex manifestation of various
thoughts feelings and external factors when multivariate
analysis of these factors is conducted, it becomes apparent
that it is not just mental health issues that are leading
to an increase there may be an underlying substance which plays
a role in a high percentage of violent acts. The use of
prescription antidepressants specifically selective serotonin
reuptake inhibitors or es es our eyes and you can find that there
that research in the show notes so we typically never hear about
any mass shooters or people doing crazy stuff if they've
been on any form of SSRI. Except just this week in Australia.
Wait, the way
John C. Dvorak: you put that is as if people that have taken
these drugs have never reported as shooters what you you're the
way you should you stated it wrong.
Adam Curry: Well restate it for me then.
John C. Dvorak: If we've never hear about any shooters,
possibly ever being on any of these drugs,
Adam Curry: right? That That information is never as far as I
know never released although are never reported. Well never
reported for sure. In Australia, that was different. We had a guy
running around stabbing people in the neck in the chest.
Snapper yelling Allah Akbar.
John C. Dvorak: But tip on stabbing a jingle you should
play this.
Adam Curry: No, no, no. The last time we did that it would didn't
work out. Well. You Keaton. Yeah, you keep wanting to dumb
stabbing jingle which I don't have. I'm going to stop again
just to do it.
John C. Dvorak: I don't remember ever requesting this jingle. Oh,
just recently. I'll just play it at the end of the show. Then.
It's alright.
Adam Curry: Okay, so he was running around stabbing people
yelling Allahu Akbar. Brave men jumped on this guy and pinned
him down with chairs and tables and pitchforks. At look like,
but the reporting was great from those
Unknown: pictures provided by Paul Walker. A drug that was
found next to this young man is called Antony X. We've just done
a little bit of a digging it's it's not too hard to find on the
internet it is a class of medicines, which are usually
used to treat anxiety and insomnia also classed as
tranquilizers so they sometimes use as an antidepressant
medication. And as sort of contains an active ingredient
from diazepam which is a very very well known relaxant and
stimulant
Adam Curry: Yeah, diazepam I thought was supposed to make
your sleep but anyway, side effects of anti next Thank you
very much Australian Broadcasting Corporation, loss
of memory in attentiveness, confusion, lack of
concentration, unpleasant dreams, sudden anxiety,
excitation, agitation, irritability, anger, abnormal
behavior, hallucinations, delusions, hello, hello. If you
don't these people up with this stuff, you know, keep knives
away from them.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that brings up another topic, which
is the drugs used at dinner rampant rampant by the by the
boatload like something like 55 million capsules were
confiscated in Saudi Arabia representing 5% of the total let
me get
Adam Curry: higher min erectile dysfunction drugs.
John C. Dvorak: No Captagon Oh, Captain, what is Captagon
Captagon is the number one. This is kind of a it's a metabolite
it's a it's a crazy chemical that when you take it, it goes
into the liver and splits into a certain a very specific kind of
amphetamine and some sort of other weird drug and it makes
you stay up all night and want to kill everybody and you're
invincible
Unknown: Lebanon spacca Valley has a history of smuggling and
trafficking of all sorts.
Adam Curry: Oh, wait, this is the stuff that ISIS was
trafficking. They're all jacked up on Captagon. Isn't that what
this is?
Unknown: An area where illegal activities include narcotics.
Achmed is one of those who transports and sells a type of
amphetamine called Captagon. He been hugely popular drug in the
Middle East.
If someone takes Captagon, he's sure to stay awake and not go to
sleep. In a bag like this one, you get around 200 pills, one
cost about $20 and some only 17 or $18 Each
month before the war broke out in Syria, all of the Captagon
produced in Lebanon headed to the Gulf states. But a new
markets opened up with rebel fighters keen to get their hands
on it. Traffickers and users don't bother about Sharia law.
When it comes to Captagon.
Every dealer has his contacts his network, it's our business
and no one else's. We start in towns like our sound in Lebanon,
or in others. We sell to rebel fighters and to anyone All that
matters is doing business. Before the durian after funeral
fading the the
users tend to take the drug at night. According to this
specialist.
When someone swallows Captagon, he feels more energetic and less
tired, but it's only an impression and the fatigue
accumulates. Because it's a form of amphetamine Captagon
increases in their velocity that it makes the consumer delirious
as in all of that with that feeling that he's over
Adam Curry: powerful.
Unknown: Lebanese anti narcotics forces managed to seize a
significant amount of drugs but they know that large quantities
still cross borders.
The shahada in April 2014 alone, we seized the 30 million pills
that you can see here that have been cut 30 million Captagon
pills. The drug has exported a lot to Gulf States and in
particular to Saudi Arabia, Saudi it's
easy to produce and to sell. Captagon is a drug of choice for
smugglers. It's illegal trade could even increase as the war
in Syria drags on, with us desperate to escape reality and
fighters looking to gain strength.
Adam Curry: According to the Secretary General, the National
Committee for Narcotics Control and Assistant Director of anti
drug and preventative affairs 40% of the drug users who fall
in the 12 to 22 age group in Saudi Arabia are addicted to
this stuff. 12 To 22
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, underreported anybody out there
hear this in the mainstream media?
Adam Curry: Well, we can't be doing that because of them and
they would stop advertising. It's almost as big as political
appetite. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: the passive corruption. You know, a couple
shows ago I
Adam Curry: brought up the neurocrine neurotic narc
neurocrine neurocrine medication for people with tardive
dyskinesia. As a reminder this is what it was
Unknown: before I was diagnosed by my doctor. I didn't know why
my body was moving like it had a mind of its own My eyes blinked
way too much, even though I didn't mean to. It turns out I
have tardive dyskinesia, a condition that may be related to
important medications I take for my bipolar disorder.
Adam Curry: So if you're on certain, I think in this case it
is SSRIs. You may develop these tics, twitches your tongue
darting around in your mouth, the blinking of eyes looks a lot
like Tourette's, but it's not one of our producers said hold
on a second, you've discussed this on show 201 which is gotta
be eight years ago, nine years ago, maybe? And listen to the
context. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: Okay, here's the clip that I watched this, you
know, we've been what we've been playing ads for all these
different drugs and all the problems they have. So I decided
that there's an ad for regulan, which is a product it's not on
the market anymore, and they're suing people for whom you know,
they're there you have a class action suit. And so this is an
ambulance chaser ad for regulated I've listened to the
here's, here's what you want to listen for, listen to the
symptoms that it causes and think to yourself, wow, would I
love to be in the in the court when these people came up to
testify?
Adam Curry: Or what is regular and exactly, I don't know. Oh,
Unknown: medical alert for heartburn, GERD, and
gastrointestinal patients and their families to prescription
drug reglan, also known as Metoclopramide, has been linked
to a rare and serious condition called tardive dyskinesia.
Symptoms include lipsmacking, a person and puckering grimacing
rapid eye movements or blinking constant movement, foot tapping
and restless leg syndrome. If you or a loved one has used
reglan and experienced any of these symptoms, you may be
entitled to substantial financial compensation now,
Adam Curry: how cool is it that we identified this the drug that
does it? And now they've got an anti something that apparently
combats it eight, nine years later. This is a great place
this country will fuck you up with a
John C. Dvorak: great show. We do. I
Adam Curry: did. Episode 201. Wow. Well, Chris, we
John C. Dvorak: were kind of mocking it.
Adam Curry: Well, of course we're mocking it.
John C. Dvorak: That's what we do. Yeah. I don't remember
mocking Snowden. No,
Adam Curry: no, no. Oh, well, yeah. Some people think we're
just wrong. How are we doing on 2020? I know you saw it because
you tweeted about it out of disgust. Yeah. My tip. My tip
would you excruciating me for Stacey Abrams. Looks like she's,
she's gearing up. She might be making a run for it. If one of
the when somebody falls down. You saw her in Vogue magazine.
An eye roller? What do you mean an eye roller? She has
John C. Dvorak: all the elements is Vogue magazine. talking
politics. What's wrong with Vogue magazine all of a sudden
did they have nothing but politically inclined lefty?
Hello.
Adam Curry: Hello. This is the elite magazine. This is
positioning this is not because Vogue woke up one day and said,
Oh, let's get her in. No, there's something going on. This
is a push. This is the same thing that Beto and Vanity Fair.
It's the same idea. It's a push. She's coming for you. Well,
John C. Dvorak: if you go like this, then if I was going to
predict anything, it would go Biden Abrams.
Adam Curry: That would be that would be fantastic combo, but
she's already said she doesn't want to be the PA
John C. Dvorak: people say a lot of things. But if you say to her
Hey, look, hey, watch Biden for a few minutes. Do you think he's
gonna get through for years?
Adam Curry: Let's be president in three months. Yeah, exactly.
That's a good point. And she wouldn't even have to go through
horrible debates just with Mike Pence. Seems like a shoo in.
John C. Dvorak: When she'd get his she'd have to go to do a
debate with Mike Pence. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's it. That's all she'd have to do.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah, you're right. Instead of all these
other
Adam Curry: Yes, you wouldn't have shipped her she wouldn't
have to debate Trump. Then well, now they they get Joe in. She's
in his VP. They slip in something they slip in the
Mickey.
John C. Dvorak: They got a sentiment you put some more than
they're doing now. They gotta give him a dig. jacking them up.
Adam Curry: About some Captagon
John C. Dvorak: Captagon now you're talking who's no one
would be the wiser.
Adam Curry: It would be great. In fact, I think someone says
you suggest that that's not a bad idea. Yeah. Jack Joe up on
some cap.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, get him up on stage and kick some butt
Adam Curry: jacked up, Joe. Exactly. He better do something.
Then he's got he's got to get something. Elizabeth Warren has
a chant. Everyone likes to have a chant. Have you heard her new
chant?
John C. Dvorak: Well, let me go look at the Google list. To see
if I can dream one up now. never guessed
Adam Curry: this one.
Unknown: It's 2% folks 2020 candidates, Senator Elizabeth
Warren, getting chants in in support of her 2% wealth tax,
but not every Democrat is on board billionaire and former New
York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg calling Warren out for
attacks on the 1% minutes after she left the same stage. Listen,
I just said to Senator Warren on the way out, Senator,
congratulations. So it's a nice talk, but just remind you, if my
company hadn't been successful, we wouldn't be here today. So
enough with this.
Adam Curry: Hey, come simmer down Lizzy. Don't be taking my
money away.
John C. Dvorak: Two percents not that big of a hit. But well, Oh,
hold on,
Adam Curry: hold on. Hold on. Hold on. It's 2% every year.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that will that will be the idea. Yeah.
Okay, and assuming a lot of these guys, when you get that
much money you are you're accumulating more than 2% a year
in additional money. Very few billionaires are not just it's
not just go is always going up. And this is very easy to do not
the real the actual wealth tax wealth tax or real one that debt
taxes, everybody. And it turns out when you do the calc I have
an essay on this. I just haven't released it yet. I'll put it out
next week.
Adam Curry: Because a lot of people don't understand what
you're talking about. I know the nuance of what your idea is,
John C. Dvorak: and I'll send you the essay. This essay has
the numbers. I mean, the point is, is that if the well Texas
should be around 1.5%.
Adam Curry: Elizabeth Warren's wealth tax, it's not a wealth
tax. It's a wealthy tax. It has nothing to do with with the
proper wealth tax, which should be the only tax you're paying.
This is in addition to everything else. So she's doing
it she's doing it wrong.
John C. Dvorak: No, it's bull crap. It is and it's something
that is probably it's probably constitutionally illegal even
though the wealth tax itself itself is questionable, as is
that but I was asked to write this up. It's pretty. I have a
pretty good argument. I think I should put up a webpage and
start promoting it. I know. Cosmic weenie.com Cosmic weenie
will be worthy essay. Yeah, so yes.
Adam Curry: registered domain. The Vortech wealth tax.com makes
makes sense. You can be in a think tank.
John C. Dvorak: I could. I could be in a think tank or the bottom
one. Hey, man on the street if you wanted to do a man on the
street, yeah. Is got his blackout does man on the street.
He is named Webb. I thought this was good. Because what you want
to do if you're going to do man on the street and street
interviews is you find a drunk.
Adam Curry: What was his so man on the street? Was this a
compilation of multiple people answering the same question?
Well,
John C. Dvorak: I just put the one part two, the drunk bar that
guy's going from person to person. Why don't you like
Trump? What is he doing wrong? And they can't answer.
Adam Curry: Okay, so they don't like him. They can't give a
proper answer until they find the drunk guy. Are you working
with a group? You've got a UAW sign right now Trump has accused
me of whatever No, I do not. Yes, I am union union. They're
standing Yeah, that's a good one that aired on television.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it was on Hannity.
Adam Curry: Oh, I can't watch that guy. It's hard
John C. Dvorak: to watch. I got it from the internet. So I do
have a couple of ISOs
Adam Curry: Oh, good. I need one for the end of show. All right,
John C. Dvorak: I got you I got this has been Sanders was in I
have the Sanders clip here to Bernie was in Iowa. But here is
Bernie in Iowa. This is his ISO. Thank you, Iowa. Yeah, it's one
of those things like thank you Cleveland. Okay, this might be
better. This would be more up your alley. This is an Iowa a
woman
Unknown: carrying new carrying.
Adam Curry: We have a winner ladies and gentlemen.
John C. Dvorak: So she said Jerry no cheering Yeah. And she
was one of the she was one of the Democrat officials and
committee heads, telling people how to keep your signs down. She
had her whole spiel, keep your signs down, do this, do that.
And then she had that little bit at the end, which I thought was
hilarious.
Adam Curry: All right, I have one last clip to play. This is
from the OTG off the grid series. Again. This is not
necessarily to protect you from security agencies but to protect
as much of your data as possible but really for you to get off
the smartphone. That is the battle the battle is between you
and that device you have in your pocket. You You want to have
something that functions, but that doesn't do too much too
quickly, because then you'll keep reaching for it. Currently,
I have the iPhone five stock completely, no external apps I
am running the privacy is called me just double check the name of
this app because I said it wrong. It's called privacy Pro.
And that pretty much puts the equivalent of a piehole onto
your device. And a turn off your location services. You got to
trust Apple to a certain degree. And you can lock out all Google
all social media, all Facebook tracking images, and what do you
call it device? What's the word not sandboxing. But they do.
Come on what's the hate myself or not the
John C. Dvorak: outbreak, I don't know what you're talking
about.
Adam Curry: You know, it's the debate device recognition where
they're doing canvas or doing a canvas on you. So they can find
out which device you're using, you can block all of that. And
then ultimately, the thing is not going to work very well. But
you can make calls, you can send text messages, you can get your
email if you need to, you can kind of be on the web browser
for certain things. But even Twitter doesn't work very well
on it. If you don't have that part blocked off battery life,
five days is fantastic. But the whole idea is to get rid of the
usage of a smartphone. It seems to be hard for people.
Unknown: You know, taking a break from technology might
sound like a good idea might sound relaxing. But there could
be some negative side effects. According to new research in the
Journal of travel research. The study shows that people who go
off the grid when they travel, they can have withdrawal
symptoms like you know when you're trying to quit smoking or
drinking or search. Yeah, Cold Turkey could be you got to keep
that device near researchers as tourists to restrict access to
their devices for at least 24 hours. And the participants said
they felt anxious and frustrated at first, but eventually they
enjoyed the digital detox eventually.
Adam Curry: There you go. The digital detox. It's tough. It's
not for everybody. But if you need support, you can always
reach out to me if you go on OTG I'm calling it that's it for
today. Okay, we will return on Sunday with another episode of
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