Unknown: Huh Oh yeah, yeah right on mobile.
Adam curry Jhansi Devorah
Adam Curry: there's a July 4 2019 This is your award
winning get my nation media assassination episode 1152 This
is no agenda celebrating America by May and broadcasting live
from the frontier of Austin, Texas capital of the drone Star
State in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where we
just missed the Zephyr and I've got flags on my feet. I'm John
C. Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: You better not be You better not be wearing him.
You racist. Yes, yes.
John C. Dvorak: Racist.
Adam Curry: Yeah, Happy Independence birthday, John.
John C. Dvorak: Happy Independence Day to everybody
out there may be safe. Yes. And our works illegal areas where
she was always get their fingers blown off.
Adam Curry: And thank you to all of the human resources of the
United States who are keeping our country running today.
Because not everything closes. I'm talking about my beautiful
wife, the keeper working today at the Ronald McDonald House.
Yes, I wonder if you can't just close the
John C. Dvorak: facility. Kick the kids out.
Adam Curry: I've suggested this very thing, but that didn't go
over too well,
John C. Dvorak: isn't it? Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, where to start? Do you want to dive right
into Nike or do you want to
John C. Dvorak: ease into a Nike because I got some good I
actually picked I did a little research. Oh, I
Adam Curry: did a little research myself. We both did. Oh
my goodness. We did some research. Well, this should be
fun. Well, let's
John C. Dvorak: start with the bullshit story. from CBS is Nike
shoe bullshit story.
Unknown: Nike was set to sell a new sneaker that featured a 13
star American flag just in time for the Fourth of July, but the
company suddenly pulled them out of stores. If Nike was trying to
avoid a controversy though it did not work. Here's Meg Oliver.
Nike set off a firestorm after pulling their shoes emblazoned
with the Betsy Ross flag, an early version of the American
flag with 13 Stars and Stripes used in the 1700s before slavery
was abolished. When you look at that early version of the
American flag. What does it symbolize?
It symbolizes I see. I see the 13th I see the colonies and that
leads directly to slavery.
In some cases, the Betsy Ross flag has been co opted by white
supremacist groups like the kk k conservatives lashed out against
Nike Republican Senator Ted Cruz of Texas wrote, it's a good
thing Nike only wants to sell sneakers to people who hate the
American flag. Arizona's Republican Governor Doug Ducey
withdrew all financial incentives the state promised
Nike to invest in a $185 million factory in Arizona and former
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain tweeted,
nothing can happen in America anymore. If Colin Kaepernick
doesn't like it,
believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything.
For NFL star Colin Kaepernick is the face of Nikes just do a
campaign he reportedly complained to Nike the flag is
an offensive symbol of slavery.
This is a great teaching moment. And it brings us in contact with
a history that most of us most Americans do not want to deal
with. In a
statement. Nike doesn't mention Kaepernick but says they made
the decision to hold distribution based on concerns
that it could unintentionally offend and detract from the
nation's patriotic holiday.
Thank you for bringing us both sides.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's, that's interesting.
John C. Dvorak: So at the end, at the end, I have a both sigh.
I have the ISO of that because it might come in handy. Thanks
for both sides at the end. He said that. Yeah, hold on. Thank
you for bringing us both sides. Good day, so
Adam Curry: well. Wait, there's something I don't understand.
Did you just say that when Nike released the news, they didn't
mention Kaepernick? Yeah.
Unknown: Hold on, let me say not
want to deal with in a statement. Nike doesn't mention
Kaepernick, but says they made the decision to halt
distribution based on concerns that it could unintentionally
offend and detract from the nation's patriotic
Adam Curry: now, didn't they at some point have to say that
Kaepernick was called them and said this is
John C. Dvorak: really they ever did. I don't want to make before
we got to the Kaepernick thing, which I think I think we're
we're gonna both conclude the exact same thing when this is
over. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe not. But I have my conclusions
I'm going to draw but I do want to mention something where he
says that he makes a point at the end of saying thank you for
bringing us both sides here what both which is you're supposed to
do anyway, what would you do? And I'm thinking both sides,
which includes the comment that Republican groups like the K K
K, an operation that's not even in business and
Adam Curry: it's also not a Republican group. not a
Republican conservative.
John C. Dvorak: I never I don't know that they've ever used the
Betsy Ross flag isn't anything? No. But okay, that's both sides.
Yeah. So yeah, you guys did a great job of giving us a
balanced report.
Adam Curry: There's a business side to this a business report,
which is, which I'd like to play from Fox Business where they
asked a couple of astute questions. How did this
Unknown: pass through the cracks of the full chain of command at
Nike, where it goes into production, these sneakers get
made, and it takes a Colin Kaepernick to say, hey, this
isn't cool, right? What does that say about the organization?
They're supposed to be leaders. I see them here. As followers.
They say just do it. I think they should change their slogan
to Should we do it? Or should we do it? Right. It's interesting,
because there was, there was really no reaction. So
Kaepernick got involved. And then after that, I think the
stock probably went down today after the governor of Arizona
Governor Ducey got involved and said, We're not going to want to
take away some of the incentives for Nike to do business in our
state. So that's why this might be different than the last time
Yeah. For every action. There's an equal and opposite reaction.
Colin said what he said Nike respond to that was their
reaction. Now we see the reaction to the Arizona governor
and what what comes after this, again, it comes down to
business, people don't like to be pushed around and until Colin
Kaepernick gets out front and center, and really becomes a
communicator and starts to explain all the things that are
important to him, right? Because then I wonder well, okay, this
flag is no good. How about today's flag? How about the
Philadelphia 70 Sixers logo with 13 stars on it? You give people
ideas now? I don't know. You got to take the Betsy Ross bridge to
get there in Jersey. It's
Adam Curry: okay. Do you want to you want to tell me about your
conclusion?
John C. Dvorak: Well, this is a publicity stunt to sell the
shoes, which will be back on the market to give away was if it
hasn't been given away by now. That this this bull crap with
the Arizona governor telling Nike to go pound sand has been
rebuked. He's back on board with Nike, they're going to put the
plan in anyway, that's just less not reported as much. But that's
yesterday morning, it came out the whole thing and because the
shoes already made, they're very attractive shoes. there if you
like Nike shoes, these are really beautiful. And Kaepernick
whether he said anything or not, he's not even a major player
with Nike, this whole thing is designed to create a fuss to
sell more shoes. This is a scam from the get go.
Adam Curry: That was my initial reaction. Until I had a chat
with the producer Moe, who actually called me breathless
about gotta explain what I think is going on here. And I came up
with something different, which is, I think the native ad part
is where the no agenda thinking goes initially. I'm not quite
sure how they would bring this back.
John C. Dvorak: I don't think it was. First of all, I don't think
it was a native
Adam Curry: promotion, promotion for a promotion busted for that
a promotion. It's a promotion. Now I'm going to go in territory
where I don't belong, because I am not the sports guy of the no
agenda show. But let's look at Colin Kaepernick X history. Now
when he burst onto the scene, he was they and again, this is a
lot of information I got from from Moe. And Moe has standing.
He knows about sports and he's black so he can talk about some
of these issues. He said look at them. No one was even talking
about him being a black quarterback. He was Colin
Kaepernick. He had the low cut hair. He was in GQ magazine. He
was the hottie he was the he was the next best thing. And, and
when he got injured, the you know he couldn't gain the weight
back and he just couldn't get back on the team and to review
the genesis of his social justice kneeling. This wasn't he
didn't start off by kneeling during the national anthem at
all. He started off actually he was sitting on the bench. He had
been sitting on the bench during the anthem for months before one
photographer noticed it. And she made a deal a big deal out of
his head. Hey, hold on a second. How come you're not standing
during the national anthem? You're sitting on the bench?
Whereas what? What one could say is he was basically just being
malcontent is the word. Like if I get I'm not getting started,
I'm no good. I'm just sitting here on the bench. And then all
of a sudden, he was asked about it in the locker rooms, the
famous interview, it is something
Unknown: that's evolved. It's something as I've gained more
knowledge about, you know what's going on in this country. The
past what's going on currently, these are new situations. This
isn't new ground. It's things that have gone on in this
country for years and years, and have never been addressed and
they need to continue. We continue to sit, yes, I'll
continue to sit, I'm gonna continue to stand with the
people that are being oppressed. To me, this is something that
has to change. And when there's significant change, and I feel
like that flag represents was supposed to represent in this
country is representing people the way they're supposed to
stand.
Adam Curry: So he was sitting, none of this kneeling business.
And that's when I first became aware of it. I don't watch
anything about sports. I don't know that the guy was sitting.
But it was not that he made a big deal about sitting down for
any political stance. He was just being malcontents sitting
on the bench and not getting up and not even caring and again,
just the opinions of people who know much more about sports than
I do in that same locker room interview. It's a very
interesting question.
Unknown: Not really too concerned about that. If
something happens, that's only proven my point.
Dr. Edmonds has some experience with public stances such as
this, you were talking to him before practices. He's someone
you consulted with, if at any point on the right when you
decided to do this.
I mean, once again, it wasn't something I consulted anybody
on. It was a conversation I had when someone asked me about it.
Dr. Edwards is a good friend. He's someone I talked to a lot
and run a lot they fine have a lot of conversations with. And
we have a lot of similar views.
Adam Curry: So this is the same interview this is before there
was any kneeling, and he's good friends and was talking to Dr.
Harry Edwards before the show. Who is Dr. Harry Edwards? Does
it ring a bell for you, John? Because sure didn't for me.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah, no, he's a big shot at University of
California, and also probably the leading sociologists in
sports.
Adam Curry: And he was instrumental, instrumental in
getting in fact, it was 50 years ago, the Olympic Project for
Human Rights. He was the one that inspired and, and got the
American sprinters Tommie Smith and John Carlos to raise their
black glove, Black Power salutes. When they won the
metals in Mexico City. The guy is an activist, super activist.
So he's talking to Colin Kaepernick, who's been on the
bench. And all of a sudden, it's like, oh, yeah, this is this is
a protest and and then he decides Kaepernick decides to
take a knee after former Greenbrae and NFL player Nate
Boyer told him to do it, which is interesting, if you're
against police brutality, and the weaponized state of America,
but a former player, perhaps here's proof, he did that,
Unknown: according to numerous reports. You had a problem. He
felt it was disrespectful when he initially sat. And according
to the reports, you were one of the people that sort of had an
influence upon him in terms of his willingness to kneel as
opposed to sitting down for the audience out there for Americans
everywhere.
Could you explain the difference in your mind between kneeling
and sitting?
Yeah, the report, the reports are interesting. I mean, a lot
of people, I think they, they thought I was encouraging him to
protest or that I was behind. I was saying, Colin, you should
protest social injustice is by taking a knee. And that is not
the case. He was sitting I was hurt by that. I think more than
I thought is disrespectful. It just kind of hurt me. So through
that conversation, we talked about different ways to
demonstrate, you know, what that might mean to people in my
community, in the military community. And I thought,
kneeling, showed reverence in some way in respect in some way
to those that fought, and many of those that gave their life
for what that flag and the anthem represents. People take a
knee to pray. You know, anybody, almost anybody stand in front of
your, your wife to be you get down on a knee and you ask for
her hand in marriage out of respect and reverence for her
what you just explained. Did you explain it exactly like that to
Colin kapernick?
Adam Curry: Yeah. So it wasn't a kneeling thing. In the
beginning, he was, I would surmise, initially led by Dr.
Harry Edwards, and then he kind of evolved into the kneeling,
which would get more upfront and central I'm sure that was
agreeable to everybody who was in the Kaepernick camp. And so
then we know what happens and just a lot of back and forth and
Trump gets involved in all kinds of issues and dimensionally
Kaepernick gets his first Nike deal. But he also he tries to
get hired after he quits as again I don't know how all this
works, but he quit trying to get hired by another team. And then
it was the helped me out here. Who was it that the one had to
hire him? Damnit,
John C. Dvorak: do it doesn't matter. Black balls.
Adam Curry: It doesn't. Well, they were they said he was being
blackballed, and then there was a settlement and he got man like
him and some other player got under $10 million before you
take away the lawyers fees. Then he had a Nike ad, but actually
his girlfriend at the time was he was on track to get hired by
the team whose name I can't remember. She tweeted out a
racist picture of the team owner photoshopped into Django
Unchained make it look like, you know, the guy was a was a slave
owner. And so, you know, then then really nobody wanted him.
But who's but who's been doing these deals for him? Well, as is
typical in sports, there's a lawyer, and the lawyer who did
all these deals for him is Mark Geragos. This should ring a
bell. Gallegos is also the lawyer for Jesse Smollett. He's
also lawyer for Let me see who else did he had a couple of
these fine people. And at one point, even Michael Jackson, the
Where did we hear the gara ghosts name? We heard the Gary
ghost name in connection with a Nike extortion suit, which was
just dropped from the media. You don't hear about it anymore,
which involved the one and only Michael Avenatti. You remember,
there was indictments and a big big brouhaha. I think what
happened here? You know now that Colin Kaepernick has rebranded
himself for the Nike ad he got the big afro all of a sudden no
longer he's Is he the sexy Super Bowl, sexy ballplayer with all
the abs. Now he's this social justice warrior, who doesn't
speak a good game really. And I don't really remember him
speaking about Trayvon Martin or Mike Brown or hands up Don't
shoot. Now this all came about after this. After this incident
where he was caught sitting down, he turned it into
kneeling. This to me, if you take the names into account of
Jesse Smollett, lawyer, Mark Geragos, his direct connection
with Michael Avenatti This isn't extortion. This was this is Al
Sharpton 2.0 I don't think that this is this is a promotion key
came his shoes show up then then then I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.
If the shoe show up, I'm wrong. But this guy has nothing going
for him and all of a sudden even though he's not a spokesperson,
he's not out there talking to everybody about it. Just one
little mentioned. They stop. I think they got pressured.
John C. Dvorak: But what it where's the benefit to anybody?
The payoff. Extortion deals are result in cash.
Adam Curry: They result in more ads, they will result in more
ads and Colin Kaepernick will be doing more for Nike.
John C. Dvorak: i Well, I don't I'm not seeing that. Now. I'm
this is again, I think the Kaepernick thing was a red
herring. I think Kaepernick is already out of the picture
because they move they move along and these shoes will be
back on the market because they're very attractive shoes
and people are getting demand them back and kind of backlash
and everything is all set up. Now it's possible if it wasn't
extortion thing that does explain the Arizona turnaround,
where they go slick looking to remove being extorted, we that's
where we have to get a new factory. I mean, they could do
that I can see that happening. But I think they went to Arizona
and said, Hey, look, this is just part of a promotion. I
don't know why you're being taken in by this, which is my
theory.
Adam Curry: And both are equally possible. I mean, oh,
John C. Dvorak: they only put Yeah, the proof is in the
pudding. The proof is in the shoe is on the market competing
theories in one end. And the proof of one or the other will
be whether the shoes show up again, as a product. And the
whole thing though, here's the problem I'm having with your
theory. Is that why are they bringing out a shoe with the
Betsy Ross flag on it in the first place? Why not? I mean, it
is almost to incite this kind of thing. Because there is going on
right now and this Do you hear this on the right wing talkers,
a lot, the right wing talkers. And I've noticed I started
noticing this so much. Most of my research went into getting to
the bottom of it. The right wing talkers are going on and on
about how how, and this explains if you remember the democratic
national debate, there was no American flags on the on the
stage. Correct. And you listen to the right wing talkers. And
they'll tell you that well, you know, there's research has
indicated that if you see an American flag, you become a
Republican. Okay, and this research is actually valid, but
it's not recent research. And the American flag has been
disappearing from stages for this for the problem is somewhat
problematic because because of a research report that was the
first version of this was done in 2008 10 years ago. And it was
in the Political Psychology journal, and it's titled is
sowing patriots Isn't but reaping nationalism consequences
of exposure to the American flag and this is well researched. And
we're going to read from
Adam Curry: maybe that's why they didn't have the true
American flag and the original 13 colonies flag so is still not
to make people Republican by looking at shoes, but it's
possible possible
John C. Dvorak: are they think that flag is very attractive, by
the way, just a brief exposure to an image of the American flag
ship. This is from the abstract shifts, voters Even Democrats to
Republican beliefs, attitudes and voting behavior, even though
most don't believe it will impact their politics according
to a new two year study just published by the scholar the
psychological science. What's more, according to three authors
from the University of Chicago, Cornell and Hebrew University,
the impact has staying powder power, a single exposure to the
American flag resulted in significant increase in
participants, Republican voting intentions, voting behavior,
political beliefs, and implicit and explicit and implicit
attitudes, with some effects lasting eight months. These
results constitute the first evidence that nonconscious prime
priming effects from exposure to a national flag can bias the
citizenry toward one political party and can have considerable
durability. Now that that study is backed up in 2011. Eight
years ago, yeah, but hold on, hold on,
Adam Curry: hold on, hold on, you're conflating a lot of
things. No,
John C. Dvorak: no, I'm just I'm just reading the additional
information you can you can analyze it after I'm done. I'm
not conflating anything. I'm just reading from an abstract.
This is the one that actually studies axing, and this was done
in dissociation for Psychological Science. A single
exposure to the American flag shifts support toward
Republicanism up to eight months later. And this is that's
another whole research. And this was all done a while ago. But if
you listen to right wing talkers, you think that this
happened yesterday, all this information is not yesterday has
been going on for a while. The Republicans and the Democrats
both know it, the Democrats keep the flag off to stages. If they
can, Obama didn't do that. He had her flag all over the place.
The Republicans try to get the flags up who they don't try hard
enough. That which seems to me to be stupid. So the Republicans
are dumb and the Democrats are being kind of wily. This is
became a topic of conversation a little before the shoes came
out. So when the flag shows up on the shoes, I think is started
this discussion underlying discussions going on, because
they brought this to everybody's attention. So the Democrats and
Republicans are now taking two sides on the flag, and the shoes
are an emblematic aspect of it, and Nikes just taken advantage
of it. Okay,
Adam Curry: so you're telling me that a $100 billion company,
international company, sat down at a marketing meeting and said,
Here's a great idea. We will use race, race to promote the shoes
resulting in this kind of discourse on bullcrap news
television,
Unknown: Yeah, cuz, you know, words matter. Symbols matter,
too. Why don't we wear a swastika for July 4? Because I
don't know it makes it makes a difference. The cross burning on
somebody's lawn? Why don't we just have a Nike, you know,
celebration of the crowd? Well, because those those symbols are
symbols of hate. So we can take PC culture back, it's amazing to
me that people who will cry the loudest about PC are the ones
who didn't show up on the friendsfirst occurred, who
didn't defend the people who were victims of white supremacy
or racism or sexism or misogyny. But now pop up and say, Hey,
let's not be too PC, if you ain't fought the battle, if you
haven't celebrated the process, you can't claim the product. So
at this point, I think people need to be honest about it and
say, it's not a matter of PC. There are many people within
communities of color who understand complexity
complication, you can't have it the way you want it, but
something so glaring and so apparent, that has to be dealt
with.
Adam Curry: So Nike actually had this meeting and said this is a
great idea. We're going to use race to divide everybody
John C. Dvorak: involved in and and lay the flag the flag.
Republic does all these turnouts. I just read you the
you're criticizing me for both of them aren't talking about
race. Neither one of them talks about race. They're talking
about the controversy between Democrats and Republicans Colin
Adam Curry: Kaepernick, but Colin Kaepernick didn't say
anything about the flag and that he's the report
John C. Dvorak: is is racist, but you have a tape of Colin
Kaepernick saying anything is only
Adam Curry: Thank you. This is exactly my point. Exactly my
point. Why is that there's nothing he's not out there being
a big social justice warrior against this. It's Nike set up
we got to call. We got to pull it off the shelves. Really? No,
yes. No, no, no, no. This is extortion who
John C. Dvorak: show back up? And they may even be part of a
longer term strategy where they don't really show back then
Adam Curry: Nike shouldn't be Wish find themselves flags. Nike
should be ashamed of themselves. And if flags and if Colin
Kaepernick shows up doing doing more Nike promotion or some kind
of political correctness promotion whatever it is
somewhere someone got paid off for this I just can't believe
that a company would risk their the whole operation. What if
that came out? Hey, I got a great idea. We're gonna promote
this coming
John C. Dvorak: out this is just my thesis This is our shot. This
is this is not even close to coming out. It's never gonna
come out. This is
Adam Curry: well, the promotion part. I've heard several
people's take on this and you know, it's it's a reasonable
thought. But it's really not because there's no way a company
like this comes up with that kind of marketing strategy where
they kept it secret. Now we'll have these great shoes I don't
know what it cost to bring some shoes to market but it's you
know, you got design you got manufacturer you got shipping
packaging, you got marketing, slave labor, and then and then
all of a sudden, we're gonna pull back this a great idea.
We're gonna create some some some political and racial
controversy just before July 4
John C. Dvorak: Different Oregon, are they I don't think
the racial thing was an element. I think it just happened to come
into it. Because who would think that Betsy Ross flag had
anything to do with race? It was like was that was the crazy
part. The crate is so far as far as the marketing guys concerned.
That's a bonus.
Adam Curry: All right. Well, I think you're wrong and we shall
see. But please believe me that the Al Sharpton and Jesse
Jackson model has not kept up with technology has not kept up.
They've not kept up with the with the perfect scam. They're
not doing it right anymore. This is a good one and look at the
people involved. Marghera goes Michael Avenatti, who were
indicted for extorting Nike,
John C. Dvorak: Michael Avenatti had nothing to do with the Betsy
Ross flag incident. There's no connection between Avenatti and
this particular thing you're talking about connection
Adam Curry: is between Avenatti and Geragos, who were both named
in an extortion suit against Nike this past year. There was
they tried to extort $20 million by saying that Nike was going
around
John C. Dvorak: that was I'm I'm not arguing that. That's a fact.
Adam Curry: Colin Kaepernick is a client of Mark Geragos. Yes,
he's trying
John C. Dvorak: to guilt by association thing, which I think
is valid in this case, except for Avenatti. He's got nothing
to do with this scam. Okay. Well, I mean, he does, he's
really fucked. But now I know what you think. And I think it's
a good, I think it's very well constructed. But unless, if the
shoes don't come out, then you're right. All right. That's
it's that simple. And it doesn't
Adam Curry: count if they come out with a different flag.
John C. Dvorak: No, actually, I'm thinking, what if, from a
marketing perspective, what you want to do is come out with a
bunch of different flags, including the Betsy Ross flag.
Well, Betsy Ross flag has to be in play. Because that guy that
black professor is going on about the Betsy Ross flag being
something to do with slavery is ludicrous, right? But did you
know he's all American flags? Did you notice slave flag?
Adam Curry: Did you notice how the mainstream jumped on this
couldn't come up with an actual historical reason why this flag
is racist. And so the narrative has become there are groups who
use that flag Yeah, that's that's the bull crap right there
look at
John C. Dvorak: the kid just can't can't can't have any
website. I want to see if their website has events. You know
what this is John, this is truly a false flag. Come on now. Cake,
Unknown: my goodness.
John C. Dvorak: I'm looking here at the K K K. in June. They got
a they got a Nazi symbol on a on a cloverleaf they got a bunch of
things but I'm not seeing Betsy Ross. So this is I think you're
I think that by the way, I think you're dead on that has to be
what happened. The media had this thing. They had to find
some connection to racism so they find maybe there's one
group of some old layer or whatever they call themselves as
Betsy Ross flag is a symbol I don't know of it. I'm not sure
not shown as a symbol in blue and the What the hell is the
name of that clan movie that was done by
Adam Curry: Spike Lee. Black Klansmen?
John C. Dvorak: Well, there's one was there a Betsy Ross flag
in that I don't know. I don't think so. I
don't think so. And it wasn't in the movie. I'm thinking of the
great movie that was done in the late 20s That something of
nations Birth of a Nation, Birth of a Nation was about the
origins of the clan. And there was no Betsy Ross flag ever
referenced this bullcrap. So the three should be called out on
this.
Adam Curry: So the genesis of the story is from The Wall
Street Journal. And I'll read from the story Nike Inc. is
yanking a USA themed sneaker featuring an early American flag
after NFL star turned activist Colin Kaepernick told the
company it shouldn't sell a shoe with a symbol that he and others
consider offensive. according to people familiar with the matter.
Yeah. So with the matter so this so I don't think Kaepernick even
called the company cat someone started someone started this
thing go on, maybe it went straight to the to the Wall
Street Journal who knows who it was, according to people
familiar or familiar with the matter? And I think Nike heard
this when Holy crap. We got to stop this shit. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: that's a possibility. But that against it
says issues will never come up. But after reading it from
another person. Let me just read this and Kaepernick is a public
personality. He's has an agent, you can call him Why does the
Wall Street Journal not call him why? Let me read this. You can
say he's not available for comment. Let
Adam Curry: me read the next let me read the next paragraph. He
would answer your question after images of the shoe were posted
online Mr. Kaepernick and Nike endorser with no more contract
reached out to company officials saying that he and others felt
the Betsy Ross flag is an offensive symbol because of its
connection to an era of slavery. The people said some users on
social media responded to posts about the shoe with similar
concerns. Mr. Kaepernick declined to comment.
John C. Dvorak: Now if this way, why would he declined to
comment?
Adam Curry: Because all it had to happen was this news had to
come out so that they would be
John C. Dvorak: talking from your that perspective hell with
that, I'm talking about the journalistic perspective. If
you're writing a story, and this guy's got it, you got a rumor
that this guy said something, and he's a public personality
with an agent and you can get a hold of him. And apparently they
did. But he declined to comment. Why would he declined to
comment? He's an activist, he would have commented. Exactly.
Maybe the story is bogus. Maybe
Adam Curry: it was gara ghosts who said maybe I'll have Colin
talk about your damn shoe.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that no, that's getting into the
conspiracy side of things. But what I what I do, again, why
wouldn't they quote gara ghosts, because they are a journalist
and you're writing this story. You're getting people on the
record on this one, because it's not like a secret in the White
House is not something from the CIA that you can be thrown in
jail for revealing this is a simple thing. Yeah, well, maybe
it isn't. Gara goes get quoted, why doesn't Kaepernick get voted
to people familiar with the thing? Who is who was the
people? Why don't we quote them?
Adam Curry: Well, that's why I was so interested when I heard
your your clip. They said there was no mention of Kaepernick in
the retraction of the shoe announcement. That's
interesting.
John C. Dvorak: The whole thing stinks. Yes,
Adam Curry: but we'll keep it at this we'll keep it between
promotion and blackmail. And and we'll keep it and we can
disagree on this.
John C. Dvorak: Well, we won't be disagreeing forever No, no,
Adam Curry: no when I'm right you will come to me and you will
come
John C. Dvorak: not gonna happen
Adam Curry: All righty then. Congratulations to gab.com they
joined the well at least they they released their new system
today. Which is a mastodon clone or fork I should say. And they
have not completely federated yet. I haven't been able to. I
can follow myself from no agenda social.com on gab. I haven't
been able to do it the other way around. Posts aren't showing up
yet. But it's a big thing that they're doing. And already the
social justice Mastodon fediverse Is is laughing at them
and tell them that they're losers.
John C. Dvorak: Why don't your if you're into this federated
thing like you are because they why would you not just
encouraged the whole world to go? Well?
Adam Curry: No, the Fed of the you know, the fediverse is run
by social justice warriors. You know, it's built by them. Oh,
John C. Dvorak: yes. That's right. You told me this is built
Adam Curry: by them. They're ready to block as soon as they
come online. Not everyone.
John C. Dvorak: Of course that did they're phonies. They're
just a bunch of Nazis that you that sir. That's right. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's what that's what they're saying. Yeah. So
now that you know they've got this up and running and it's not
really up and running yet. immediately, it's like oh,
losers. I say give him give him a week or so to get everything
going. It'll take longer than that. Maybe he's, you know, you
got a lot. You got a lot of users. You're trying to make the
Pub Sub activity work and everything. I can just see all
the problems. But it's, it's a start. It's a start. Well, good.
John C. Dvorak: It's gab is a little more open than Twitter,
that's for sure.
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, but yeah, and there's more and more
Nazis, which is a lot more fun. Well, I'm actually seen a single
Nazi posts. I don't really do much on gab. I just
John C. Dvorak: shut it down. So why this bit seems to me to be
pretty much like Twitter only a little more. Complaining.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And you don't see posts with this tweet is not
available. I don't see that. Which is thing that bothers me
the most?
John C. Dvorak: Well, I mean, I hope I never go to gab and see
this tweet is not available.
Adam Curry: Anyway, moving away from the United States for a
moment. We have some big news coming from Hero land from the
Eurozone, as it looks like, there have been some decisions
made in the leadership. Now, the way it works in and I have a
couple of clips here the way it works in the European
Parliament, we have the European, the European
Parliament, which we have a president, we have the European
Commission, we have the European Council, and we have the
European Central Bank. And you recall that we had the Spitz and
kind of dot process, which is each of the parties of the big
parties and each of the 27 member states that all say okay,
here's here's the person we would like to have as the
president of the Council of the commission of the Parliament,
and choose between one of these and then I think it is the
council itself, who goes into the back room and deliberates
for days on end. And they choose by secret ballot, they choose
the winners. It doesn't necessarily have to be the Spitz
and Connie dot, interestingly enough,
Unknown: was more than just a little frustration amongst MEPs
here in Strasbourg about what has happened over the last
couple of days that yet again, it is the council that is taking
control of who should get the top jobs in Europe for the last
couple of decades. This place, the European Parliament has been
trying to exert its authority, its legitimacy, it would argue,
as the only directly elected elements of the EU institutions,
that it should be able to put forward its candidates to take
over those leads jobs. That's what the Spitz and candidate
process was all about. It happened in 2014, with John
Claude Juncker, but it seems to have now died with John Claude
Juncker. Because when you look at it, none of the lead
candidates from this parliament have managed to make it into
those top jobs. They are frustrated here because they
look at those decisions made in Brussels in the back rooms in
which EU leaders have been essentially writing down names
and scratching out at others that is not as they would say
here, very transparent, not very democratic. cratic
Adam Curry: So who exactly was chosen? Well, it should come as
no surprise that a German leader is always needed at the at the
head of the European Union project, since it truly is the
German rice that is running this resor Germany's gotta have gotta
have a German running the show, but we know what the choices
were based on because we actually titled one of our shows
after the reason for the choice of the people who have been
chosen
Unknown: national leaders have finally agreed on the
nominations for the EU top jobs, but their choices still have to
be approved by the European Parliament, to women have been
proposed for key posts. Germany's defense minister
Ursula from the Leyen to head the EU Commission, and the
French head of the IMF Christine Lagarde, the European Central
Bank. Well, the European Council made up of leaders from all 28
member states that spent a grueling three days in Brussels
trying to thrash out a compromise
after marathon negotiations holding the leaders in Brussels
for three days. Finally, an agreement. Belgium Prime
Minister shall Michel the only person actually present at this
summit full take one of the top jobs as European Council
President, but it's the last minute outside a German defense
minister Ursula von der Leyen, who sat to take what's
considered Europe's top job and become President of the European
Commission.
We have chosen two women and two men for the four key positions.
Perfect gender balance. There it is. I'm really happy about it.
After all
Europe is a woman. The other woman is Christine Lagarde. Did
Adam Curry: you know that Europe is a woman?
John C. Dvorak: Does that what he said? Yeah,
Adam Curry: after all, it's first of all, he says gender
balance we knew That's what I was going to come down to. Oh,
we got two women we got two men were gender balance. We are so
fair
Unknown: positions. Perfect gender balance. I'm really happy
about it. After all Europe is a woman.
Adam Curry: There you go. Europe is a woman remark. Just remember
that
Unknown: the other woman is Christine Lagarde, head of the
International Monetary Fund and former French finance minister.
Notably the European Commission president is not being selected
as the lead candidate from the winning political grouping in
the European Parliament. That would have been Manfred Veva
from the EPP while von der Leyen is from the EPP political
family, this choice may mean the so called Spitz and candidate
system is now over.
Adam Curry: So not only did they not choose to they want
John C. Dvorak: Oh, hold on a second. So that's a huge
surprise that the actual way that might be somewhat
democratic is now kicked out the door.
Adam Curry: Goodbye. And, and, and we take home of the Brexit
party, Nigel Farage his party in the European Parliament, she was
pissed off about it.
Unknown: Thank you, President. It's a great honor to speak on
behalf of the largest single party in this place. And now I
say that I if I needed any convincing at all, that the best
thing for Britain is to leave here as soon as possible. It was
the way that those elections were conducted yesterday.
Because if that is this place is ideal of democracy, then that is
a serious betrayal of every country that is represented
here, because it is not democratic at all. And that is
just one of many reasons why Britain is right to be leaving
this place, hopefully on Halloween. And it is right
because there is a pattern consistent throughout history of
oppressed people turning on the oppressors, slaves against their
owners, the peasantry against the feudal barons, colonies Mr.
Verhofstadt against their empires. And that is why Britain
is leaving. And it doesn't matter which language you use,
we are going and we are glad to be going. I represent the
southwest of the United Kingdom. come to conclusion, please,
first day that this place has decided this This place hasn't
the powers that be have decided to actually increase the size of
fisherman's meshes, thereby reducing their income by 40%.
That's what you do here. That's why we're going there gang were
off. Again,
Adam Curry: the troll room correctly identified this as a
as a complete dead ringer for any Monty Python sketch. You
sounded so much like it, and then to end it with via again, I
didn't know but like
John C. Dvorak: those those those women in the 3030s
comedies that used to have that hype, when I don't like it, yes.
That's the worry common character in the 1930s. WC
Fields used by the Marx Brothers used them. I can think of a few
of the names Marjorie, I can't remember her last name. There's
a bunch of them and they could do that voice. went to dinner, a
friend of mines house one time and, and outside of these other
than several hours outside of Paris, and yet, they brought
over their cousin or something. And she was a young woman about
in her I guess, 30s may or young 30s or late 20s Maybe. And she
as a young person actually had that voice. I've never heard it
in the wild ever. I was my jaw was dropped the whole time.
Adam Curry: I learned something but he talked like that I
learned something new in that clip that the EU, EU was
determining what kind of toilet you can have, how much water it
can flush what kind of light bulb you can have. These are all
things that people get pretty irked about good to the public.
I did not realize that they had put in a regulation to increase
the nets the size of the netting apparently so the smaller fish
get through these guys. They're brazen man. Oh, no, no, that
nets illegal. Oh, you can use that. There isn't before I have
one more thing from Nigel Farage. But there's also now a
European directive for electric vehicles in the EU, I think by
2022 They all have to make noise. Because otherwise, blind
people will get run over Yeah, this is this is the sound. This
is the sounds that are being proposed. Yeah, these are the
setup, right? No, it's not a joke from the BBC. That could be
a joke but that's the sound the electric vehicles are supposed
to make a song.
John C. Dvorak: It's Yeah. Sounds like somebody like a bad
Oregon player. I think they should use this every year in
the places crawling with these cars making that noise you don't
nuts.
Adam Curry: This is the one you want that would be better comes
that's what you want.
John C. Dvorak: Are you there? This would be some scene that's
coming down the road. Now, before you go on, which I want
to hear the next step obviously, is don't What do you think is
going on with Christine Lagarde? Because she she's an agent for
the Americans in the IMF? I believe it you think she's gonna
be a mole over there? Or she's just gonna switch sides and
become an EU? Oh, no,
Adam Curry: no, this is no, this is complete, complete
globalization. You know, the US actively work to getting here in
that role by framing Dominique Strauss Kahn, you remember how
fast that went? Oh, yeah, that was a quickie like and it was
Cyrus Vance. And Jim Comey, his buddy. A lot of people involved
in all that just
John C. Dvorak: you just part of the same globalist network.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: I think so. But I but to have her in charge of the
European Central Bank who Oh, man, that's interesting. That's
a big deal. That's, that should be fun to watch. Good old Fifi.
She has no banking experience. He's not a banker. She's not
Bangor. She's a globalist shill. So at the at the inauguration of
all the new members of the European Parliament, they
decided to play the European Union National Anthem, which is
Beethoven's Ode to Joy, a fine Austrian composer. They always
resort back to the same kinds of things in Germany don't they
went back sooner than later. Now the Valkyries are on their way.
And so the Brexit party stood up and turn their backs as it
played.
Unknown: They played the anthem, you see, and we didn't stand up
as the others did. All ramrod straight to attention. We sat.
And the President of the Parliament, Mr. Johnny Italian,
said, it is polite to stand up. When the anthem of another
nation is playing. He called this place a nation. So we
obeyed His instructions. And we did stand up but we just face
the other way.
Yeah, but you offended a lot of people. I spoke to MEPs who said
they thought it was disrespectful. You are a member
of this Parliament, your other 28 Mbps Remember, our members of
this Parliament? Surely you should have just stood up when
the anthem was played that is in tribute
to this parliament? Well, I'll tell you what's disrespectful.
What is disrespectful, is to take the ancient nation states
of Europe. And without asking anybody's permission, turn it
into a country because that's what the President of the
Parliament called it this morning. I think that's really
disgraceful. And I am not going to stand at attention for this
handsome. No way. I'll show respect for any anthem of any
other country in the world, but not a false creation like this.
And I think we did the right thing.
Adam Curry: No, I agree. Especially when they said it's a
nation. It's a national anthem of the European Union
mistranslation
John C. Dvorak: error.
Adam Curry: The whole thing is,
John C. Dvorak: may have been the guy saying, you know, you
will stand for the nationalism of any other nation when I stand
for this. I mean, I think it may have been Faraj may be
Adam Curry: overdue while he's always been against the national
anthem with the European Union, and I can understand they're not
a really a union yet.
John C. Dvorak: I maybe should take a knee
Adam Curry: get some Nike bucks while you're at it. I'm Nigel
Farage from Nike. Then one other thing out of Europe, I mean, I
find myself in an extremely difficult position. I think I
know what to do, but it's very hard for me as as you know, I'm
a big fan of the World Cup soccer for women. Yeah, and
John C. Dvorak: the big games coming up and you're you're
between a rock and a hard place. I've
Adam Curry: got the the the American ladies have got the
Dutch ladies. Yeah. So first of all, I'm really happy that they
both made it to the finals because I mean, this really made
my day although the game between Sweden and the Netherlands. I
was thinking of you. Like this is boring. was a pretty boring
game.
John C. Dvorak: It's a very boring game.
Adam Curry: I like very much that the USA got into the finals
without the troublemaker rapper No. So it shows that she's not
necessary to win matches. And that is Alex Morgan, who, who
was kept who kept the game. She did a nice little drinking tea
at the end. They're like Screw you. limeys it was I thought it
was Fanta Ask the Brits are crazy on Twitter. They're all
mad as
John C. Dvorak: they were rude. Now first of all, let's start
with this. They make the crazy observation that the Americans
are arrogant and rude. Americans arrogant and rude.
Adam Curry: What what there's gambling going on? What's
John C. Dvorak: up? Holy, what an insult.
Adam Curry: No, this was the insult. They were playing on
Twitter. It was, well, the Americans row they were laying
down on the field the whole time. They were Oh, they were
faking all the injuries. But of course they do that because here
in Europe, at least you can get medical care I'm like, okay. Oh,
yeah, so I'm tweeting Nice. Well, at least we Brexit and
properly bitch. It's
John C. Dvorak: good. Yeah, that's good comeback. Yeah.
Yeah, this is great. I liked it. I mean, the game is dumb game is
boring. I mean, I'm not a big fan but I do like the fact that
we have this this woman's kick ass team. And you know Americans
typically in their sports they like one team that just be
horribly dominant and a hateful you firstly like him because he
started under the Warriors a good example. And they then they
get really big too big for their own britches. They won't go to
the White House and just show you know, their own place. Oh,
yeah, we're expected to win then they lose. Yes. So it's a very
common just like a theme. It's like a like a melodrama. It's
corny, but fun. So Sunday
Adam Curry: is the big game. So I guess we'll have to run a best
of Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: I know. What's On at midnight anyway. Is it
something like that have a score?
Adam Curry: Well, no, the game plays way before midnight.
John C. Dvorak: The game I mean, our midnight. How can
Adam Curry: you this this is what kills me. It's like, No,
I'm not gonna watch the game that at night after it's already
over.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yes. Dumb. Yeah, so we'll know the score
live sports. The reason was streaming services for having
live sports because the word live is important to sports
fans. He's tight. You know, it's like the spoiler alert and
everything in between the sports is like you you're it's been
shown they've done studies if you're rooting for one of the
teams, your emotions are pretty much on par with the level of
the emotions on the team when the team wins. You're elated in
a very positive way if your system exhibits elation, and
when you lose your your system, you're the fan but you still
almost get as much depression about losing as the team does.
And so that so you want to experience that in real time
because you can't you can't experience it if it's three days
old. It's like the stale bread
Adam Curry: Yes, and you have to stay away from social media and
you can't look at anything because people will spoil the
game don't
John C. Dvorak: do I never I rarely unless it was something
that was you know some crazy thing took place that you want
to watch it in the replay.
Adam Curry: You know, I'm the guy that watches about two
sports games a year one is the Super Bowl I'll maybe I'll add
one even watch the World Series really? basketballs too fast for
me. I guess it's just super bowl. And then the World Cup
World Cup soccer in this case, I've been a big fan. I would be
happier if this was women's field hockey because I think
that's the that's the shorts the skirts that's that's the sport
that would make it in America for that very reason. Thank you
very much.
John C. Dvorak: No, that's like volleyball. Yeah, that's a
sexist very sexist approach you're taking here I don't see
it as a man versus woman sex thing at all. I'd say this is
fine athletes out there competing and it's gonna be it's
gonna it's gonna be the the end of this today this will be the
end of it we're not we won't be get didn't get you I mean you
just enjoy what you can because pretty soon men identifying as
women will be will become the USA national women's team. Yeah,
just a bunch of big burly guys.
Adam Curry: A bunch of dudes winning a bunch of dudes. Yeah,
well luckily that hasn't crept into FIFA yet. So I guess I
guess we're lucky in that regard. Man. Anything, there was
a lot of noise about the wall and the cages. Wait, maybe start
here. The we will be another the end of this month until we get
more Democratic debates. But I did just want to play two clips
about Kamala Harris. Now, she has been backtracking her her
hand raising to the give undocumented immigrants
universal health care which was the entire lineup on that
evening of the of the debates they all want. Yeah, sure. No
prob there's
John C. Dvorak: the question what each
Unknown: senator another defining moment in the debate
was when every candidate was asked to raise their hand if
they would abolish private insurance. In that moment, you
raised your hand. But afterwards your campaign says actually,
that's not your position. So what is your position on private
insurance?
So the question was, would you be willing to give up your
private insurance? That's not how it was such a plan. Right?
Okay. That's certainly what I
Adam Curry: heard. Okay, let's just remind Miss Harris of what
was actually asked, raise your hand if covered if your
government plan would provide coverage for undocumented
immigrants. That's not quite the same as if you would do that.
Unknown: And in terms of the items, it's supportive of
Medicare for All and under Medicare for All policy, private
insurance would certainly exist and for supplemental coverage,
but Medicare for All and my vision of it, we would actually
extend benefits. So for example, vision care, dental care,
hearing aids, which weren't, we are not covered. And anyone you
know, who's a senior can tell you they're extremely ageist,
massive, and people have to come out of pocket. You don't
Adam Curry: have to be a senior to have hearing aids. I'm not
voting for her
Unknown: for them. Included in my perspective on the issue of
private insurance is this. And I told the story last night, look,
any Night in America, there is some parent who's got a child
who has a fever, blah,
Adam Curry: blah, blah, okay, I don't want to hear her. Be on
the lookout for the term. weaponized ignorance. Be on the
lookout for yes. Okay. Yeah, this is this. There have been
black leaders out there. If you if you're talking about Kamala
Harris not being African American, not being an American
Black. Let's say you are ADOS then you will be called out for
your weaponized ignorance.
John C. Dvorak: How's it weaponized, I can say being
called out for your ignorance. Even though there's no ignorance
involved. It's actually a deeper understanding. But you can say
that's ignorance from an ignorant point of view. What's
the weapon is?
Adam Curry: I don't know. But I'm just telling them I'm seeing
this I'm hearing this for it then weaponized ignorance.
John C. Dvorak: I have. I have the two camera versus Don Jr.
Tweets, clips. Okay. They were taken to an extreme on Democracy
Now with a just a lot of bullshit.
Unknown: California senator and presidential candidate Kamala
Harris is riding a new wave of momentum following her debate
performance last week, when she challenged Joe Biden's past
history of working with segregationist lawmakers and his
opposition to busing to integrate schools and 1970s.
Well, Harris has jumped in several opinion polls. There's
been also a right wing backlash online. On Thursday, the
president's son Donald Trump Jr. retweeted a message from an alt
right personality that read quote, Kamala Harris is not an
American Black. She's half Indian and half Jamaican. I'm so
sick of people robbing American blacks, like myself of our
history. It's disgusting. Harris's family were actually
slave owners.
So the tweet said, Donald Trump Jr. reposted?
Adam Curry: So the tweet said,
John C. Dvorak: yeah. So the tweets. So now when she says
that is she implied when she said the way she positions this
comment? This is implying that the tweet is bullshit.
Adam Curry: Because yeah, it's the same as saying she claimed
John C. Dvorak: it's like it's just like claimed. But it was
also the intonation. So the tweet said, in other words,
Kamla Harris is not Jamaican and Indian and her parents and her
parents and her ancestors never own slaves. Is that what Amy is
implying?
Adam Curry: weaponize the tweet
John C. Dvorak: said that she's half Indian half Jamaican and
her ancestors owned slaves. Yeah. Is that true or not? That
is true. But then why is Amy implying that is not true?
Adam Curry: Because Amy is a douchebag. Ah, okay.
Unknown: Continue of, of our history. It's disgusting.
Harris's family were actually slave owners.
So the tweet said, Donald Trump Jr. reposted the tweet adding Is
this true? Wow. Trump Jr. Then deleted the tweet later that
night, after coming under fire from several of their 20
presidential candidates, including Joe Biden, who tweeted
quote, the same forces of hatred rooted in birtherism that
question Brock, Obama's American citizenship and even his racial
identity are now being used against Senator Kamala Harris,
Adam Curry: unquote. Now please tell me that right after that
Amy and her Democracy Now. Cohorts went into Kamala as
parents and their history and where she grew up in where she
went to school and, and her true heritage. They did that I'm sure
it's democracy now after
John C. Dvorak: All, unlike the fact that you you're using my
bid. I know it's crazy. I'm doing sports.
Adam Curry: I'm doing your let's,
John C. Dvorak: let's answer that question with the next
thing that happens here.
Unknown: 2020, Democratic presidential hopeful Julian
Castro told CNN, Donald Trump Jr. Behave like a coward.
This is the game. These folks play. They put something out
there you notice what he did? He tweeted it out. And then he
deleted it, like a coward. So he can say, Oh, that was just a
mistake. But he knows what he's doing. He's giving voice to
these racist, man, you know, utterances about Senator Harris.
We need to dispel them immediately and condemn them and
then not give them any more life because they're disgusting.
Well, I'm the history your question
Adam Curry: is no, that is clearly no,
John C. Dvorak: that's a no. Instead, they attack him as
being a racist pig. Now, the thing that's interesting to me
about this little brouhaha, which is based on the simple
fact that she's half Indian and half Jamaican, I mean, so what?
Why don't they just admit it? No, no, no, you can't admit it.
So this is what's interesting than that. And that's a fact.
And then, so they tried to twist it into a version of birtherism.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, that's it. Oh, yeah. Because how does that?
How does that work?
John C. Dvorak: It Logically, if it doesn't,
Adam Curry: she doesn't, they're just there. Okay. I'll tell you.
Why. Because they're
John C. Dvorak: down because I am listening to this thing. This
is diluted? Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Okay. First of all, if you ask anyone, any
white person in America, and anywhere in the world, probably
what was Barack Obama, they will say, America's first African
American president, he was not in fact, if you believe that he
had the story that he was born in Indonesia, are born of an
Indonesian father and a white mother in Hawaii, then he is not
African American. He's not ADOS he is black, brown, whatever you
want to call it does not have the the complete black
experience of African Americans. Now, if you want to believe he
was born in Kenya. Yeah. I mean, you can say he's, he's African
slash American, but not the same as African American does not
have the same, the same background. But they were
compared the comparison of Kamala Harris, who was also not
African American, American descendant of slavery. That's
how you get that comparison. They need to pull that apart,
pull it away from the God Obama who also was not African
American. And so they use something convenient. It's, I
think, a dangerous strategy. But it's very convenient, because
you get to say, That's birtherism, which immediately
makes it racist and something Trump did, which is also not
true. But Trump is universally blamed for starting birther is,
John C. Dvorak: the Republicans have got to get back on the old
track that Hillary is the one who came up with the birth
during
Unknown: her campaign group, her boys campaign,
John C. Dvorak: in particular, that one guy's name eludes me,
but it's their strategy. It was during the campaign in 2008.
That this came up, it wasn't had nothing to do with Trump in
2016. You know, that was eight years later that Trump started
well, I actually started maybe a couple of years earlier, just as
I think as a lark. But
Adam Curry: I have, I have a clip here, which will just dump
out of when we're done with this was a call in show on W H. EUR
96.3. This is Howard University, radio, college radio, but not a
small station, Dr. Greg Carr. He's the chair of the Afro
American Studies for Howard University. And well Listen to
this exchange. Let me see if I can get it. Thanks for calling
what's on your mind?
Unknown: Thank you for having me. Good evening to you also.
Dr. Carr. Good evening. I was calling today actually, because
I am actually a one of the people that is a part of the
ADOS movement, the American descendants of slavery movement.
And I actually I'm engaged with you actually on Twitter, Mr.
Carr, I actually wanted to make a couple of things clear,
actually, the conversation for us, at least on Twitter or with
I think a large portion of black America, I'm not saying all has
nothing to do with Kamala Harris being black. It really doesn't.
most black people don't even care about that. What we're
talking about is lineage and ethnicity. That's what we're
talking about. And if your family come rooted out of
Jamaica, all of your cousins, your grandparents, you can't be
African American. It's very simple. Now, when I say African
American, I mean a descendant of us chattel slavery, I don't mean
a second generation person whose parents were native born
African. Okay. So that's kind of the issue. The other issue that
we're dealing with is is that black America has learned from
the Obama administration. I would have to agree with you,
Mr. Carr here that Obama is not the greatest president at all.
And if you look at his policies, he actually took away more We're
from HBCU funding in George Washington, which most black
people don't know. But we've been largely in a political
group. What ADOS doing is bringing awareness and trying to
instill a political education or awareness in the African
American community that largely lacks this has this policy do
not support black people. That's the problem. Not only does her
record not support black people, but black people have been
telling every candidate we want a Black Agenda. Neither the two
black candidates have one. So that would be something that
black people should be looking at that supposedly these are
black candidates, supposedly African American, Mr. Booker is
for sure. But these people don't actually have anything for black
people. What they have is to share for everyone else. But h
one v one was which my parents actually support for Indians,
which is an Indian first because that's the laser. Okay. And
secondly, also the immigration policies on
Adam Curry: there was pretty funny. HMB one of course, she
wants to do that. It's for our own people, for the Indians that
she's having the
Unknown: doctor behind. Do not service the black community. The
actual data. Oh, hold on. Hold on for a second there. Go ahead
Dr. Carr. And I'm
just gonna say whether Derek and I hope you hang on for a few
ministers this is this is the kind of weaponized ignorance
that aid us this hashtag is promoting there is no
Adam Curry: and there you have it weaponized ignorance and he's
going against as he said, he this college just laid out
John C. Dvorak: everything that is Clip of the Day for me, but
Well,
Adam Curry: let's bring it on. He actually says it two more
times. Want to hear a little more
John C. Dvorak: though this guy Dr. Carr who is an apologist I
guess her someone or something the Democrats he's just a
Democrat. And so he's just gonna He's not putting up with any
this was a lot of black Democrats have actually a lot
more white than black. A lot of Democrats period. Do not want to
see anyone who's black, get out of line. Don't get not aligned,
exactly uppity,
Adam Curry: uppity. Well, listen, to listen to another 30
seconds here.
Unknown: You don't speak for anyone other than yourself. I
hope you don't embrace the extreme xenophobia of Antonio
more, or Yvette Cornell Lisa
Adam Curry: Antonio Moore is the guy we played to who does
YouTube from his car. Yeah, it's extreme xenophobia. i Sorry, I'm
not hearing it. Dr. Carr, the broadcast
Unknown: on YouTube, some of these other venues? I'm not sure
if you understand. I mean, you know, just so we're very clear,
we say we have the data. So you're talking about Sandy
Daredi, my colleague, Sandy Daredi, had it do none of this.
And I'm sure you've also read the platform's of all the
candidates with Democratic nomination, nursing the debates,
for example, their positions on appointments to the federal
bench, the Trump administration has appointed about a fifth of
the federal bench in the last two years. These are the judges
that will decide our fate, the fates of the people who claim to
be speaking for the majority of black people. And not only is it
incredibly short sighted and deeply under informed, it's
really weaponized ignorance to talk about anything from
reparations to immigration visas, as you know, these are
the single issues facing the black community. And Derek, with
all due respect, brother, I think anyone listening to what
you've laid out of last 60 to 90 seconds, can come away very
clear about one thing, this is not an informed political
opinion. And as far as this who is black and who is not black, I
would encourage you to study not only long history of reparations
movement, but the history of African solidarity movements,
Adam Curry: and on and on, I'll put it in the show notes. The
whole thing is kind of interesting to listen to. There
it is. Shut up. Shut up. You're ignorant,
John C. Dvorak: and you get in line and you're wet.
Adam Curry: Hey, the two old white guys over here they see
what's going on. We hear it.
John C. Dvorak: So that guy that a das guy that called in is D
knows what's going on to he's not going to put up with this
bullcrap.
Unknown: Thank goodness.
Adam Curry: Oh, hey, we thought we need to take a break. We're
just affiliates are pissed once again. So with that, I'd like to
thank you very much for your courage and say in the morning
to you the man who put the sea in the colonial flag John C. de
Bourgh egg
John C. Dvorak: and Imani new images random Korean and Korean
ships the sea Bucha graph in the game is nice out there.
Adam Curry: Boring to all the trolls who who did show up
today. I know it's a tough one. Let me see what we got to in our
troll room. We've got 837 Not bad for Fourth of July. I
appreciate y'all showing up. That is no agenda stream.com
where we had the live pre streams today. There's always
something cool going on Nick the rat last night. You can go to no
agenda stream.com where you can hop on. On The stream listen to
what's going on in real time you can troll, you can just do
whatever you want pretty much troll. And I'd like to thank our
artists who brought us the artwork for episode 1151 The
title of that was brand purpose now, this was Nick the rat, who
I just mentioned who brought us the the album art it was the
rainbow pride no agenda art, which was actually a very we had
we had a tough choice tough, tough.
John C. Dvorak: I'm gonna go look at the art so we can
because it once in a while, it's nice to talk about how what we
did, why we chose the art that we chose and that sort of thing.
Adam Curry: Well, there were reasons why we didn't choose
some otherwise really good contenders.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, and I think it should be discussed at
least at least.
Adam Curry: Oh, by the way, foreign. You remember Thorin
John C. Dvorak: yet Dory, who knew disappeared?
Adam Curry: He tweeted he tweeted this morning I said
guys, I'm not overboard. I no longer have the same dude named
Ben job that I have. So I no longer have an opportunity to
listen live and do the artwork and but he's still on board and
he's
John C. Dvorak: good. Love us. Yes. You have to listen live
yeah, there's no
Adam Curry: there's no other way to do that. So we had some Nike
stuff, which was not really appropriate.
John C. Dvorak: The one I liked the most, but it was not it was
another NIC the rat piece which was Biden with the makeup on.
I'm not sure I Bernie with the makeup on, which was kind of a I
saw it because I did this with Al Gore I had done a picture on
I use it over and over again in my blog and elsewhere. Have Al
Gore wearing eyeshadow and red lips. Because of that one debate
that he was in at one time went against Bush word they had so
much makeup on. Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Yes. And he was
like, it's just so I just did it over the top. And so I thought
this particular one with Bernie with the red lips was pretty
funny. Then there were some Well, here's,
Adam Curry: here's the one that I wanted. The one that I really
wanted to be good was by Darren O'Neill. And it was based on the
knitting community if you don't call out Trump as a as a racist
in the knitting community, and he had he had the knitted
sweater with Trump socks. But then the knitting needles look
like chopsticks. Well, the
John C. Dvorak: knitting needles weren't like chopsticks, A and
B. My complaint was he didn't. And I don't I mean, they don't
have a lot of time to do this art. So this is a speed art.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And no disrespect. We're just just
pretied art is
John C. Dvorak: has tough. It's rough in his heart. And but
people do it and they can do it. And it can be done. It's a tough
guy what he had to do here, and I know, it was easy, or not
easy, because not everybody can texturize the font. So he needed
the texturize the font so it looked like knitting and font.
Yeah, that's also true. So that was the mistake I didn't like
that's the reason I got rejected, didn't it? We had the
pedo bear with which was your favorite. I think it was pretty
funny. But you can't use the pedo bear and are ours a little
dancer, girl, dancer girl and a pedo. Bear in effect.
Adam Curry: It's like no, this is not a good idea.
John C. Dvorak: This is not a good idea. But we did. We were
amused whole. I also like podcast madness.
Adam Curry: Yeah, as in Reefer Madness, podcast madness. Yeah.
From this guy, bear asked Godzilla.
John C. Dvorak: Bear Asko. Right, who would have had a
double he would have hit two in a row, which would have been
nice for him by I did like that piece a lot. But next, we next
piece. We went to flag
Adam Curry: and that's also an I recall myself saying this. You
see this thing? You're going to tap on it. You want to click on
it? How could you go wrong? We actually harped on corporate
abuse of the LGBTQ Qi APK community right by using the
pride flag. And we went super meta and just did the same
thing. I was so proud of course. Yes. Very good. Yes. Good for
us. No agenda, our generator icon in case you're listening
along in real time if you want to check out what's going on and
you can also submit yourself not yourself but your artwork
yourself anytime. It's appropriate and we appreciate
the work that all of our artists do and Thank you Nick the rat no
agenda Art Director Jim jabra.com.
John C. Dvorak: So let's thank a few people. Starting with
somebody Erin grown and vegan.
Adam Curry: Oh, and let me see. Oh, here we go. Had a coal grown
vegan almost. Here. Whoa. I get that. Kinda here. Coke through
innovation.
John C. Dvorak: Karuna. Vegan. Yes. I understand. He's from
Holland. So yes. $1,100.07 Oh
Adam Curry: 1107 Yeah. Oh, well, nice.
John C. Dvorak: kind of miss it should have been 50 kind of miss
mr. show club. I think we should bonus I'm gonna just give him
the show club member
Adam Curry: even though it's not 1152
John C. Dvorak: Will he get a yeah, you was 1102 I thought it
may be just okay. No, no. Okay. I'm just thinking. Anyway quite
a note he says please take editorial freedom. Thank you. I
will. Dear John and Adams are Hendrik unwittingly hit me in
the mouth was son Saturday's meetup. So he got him out of the
meetup
Adam Curry: that would have been in with donor that would have
been in fight
John C. Dvorak: Hey, hey handwrite go find more guys like
this guy. Good Works or Hendrik about that's fantastic.
discovered your show oil knob so it's not overnight. It's not an
overnight success almost a year ago via the TPO podcast the best
podcasts in the Netherlands according to the Mueller report.
I read it and it's true. And it didn't miss an episode since I
can not show up for the Dutch meetup in my hometown being a
giant douche bag compliments for the show. Not only did I not
miss an episode I only recall two pre recorded episodes in a
year so obvious try not getting the hit me in the mouth of
Saturday's read up what okay? Is dedicated is what he's saying.
Who would have known that as slick countdown presented from
my use you Adam would become a voice of reason in my life. Must
be John keeping him in check. Exactly. Of course Adam was too
slick and commercial back then, for my view dressed up all black
and pointy shoes and such. Yet please use luckily my brain
kicked in when I was a student even back in 89. I chose the
ridiculousness of upcoming global warming as a subject for
a presentation. Your show is a breath of fresh air. I'm looking
forward to the like minded people this Saturday. Oh, he's
going this Saturday. I guess I can write a book a rivaling
Tolkein with observations fitting the show but that's not
a note Oops. I'm however, I do ponder about the advertising
ruling the world I fully agree this the advertisers during the
behavior of the platform and media to the whim of a small
uninteresting, uninteresting minority. This is true is good
observation. And the Netherlands advertisers like Heineken,
Gillette and even the Dutch Army recruitment have been called out
at times however, in my view, people taking offense and
willing to boycott or a not watching the something I can't
read it. Material. Be lazy pacifist, see men with beards,
and hair buns and women who refuse to shave for the
patriarchy. And all drink beer from micro breweries. It's a
good rundown
Adam Curry: what many says oh, here's the reason for his
donation amount. I'll get the inevitable nine foot I say did
18 plus 18 is the shapeshifting Judo nation plus 33 the magic
number times 11 times three. So he did a lot of magical numbers
to come up with this donation amount
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that was the I guess it was it was in
what was it in he did the deal Hey, don't use Kroners or
anything they use euros US dollars. We get comes up with
100,000 Oh, I see. 107 Yeah. Okay, well, I don't know how he
came up with a big numbers all I know.
Adam Curry: And he would like to be known as Sir Hiroko Knight of
the papal fiefdom of Utrecht which he is to rule someday he
said good neither I have scheduled yes you're on deck
that's what it's for. Go to dvorak.org/peerage.itm No dot
htm all uppercase you can find out what you'll be responsible
for neither I or the city of Utrecht are that religious but
it's still home of the only Dutch Pope ever. Oh is that so?
I didn't know that there was even a Dutch Pope ever at all
John C. Dvorak: it no this either.
Adam Curry: That and it anything remotely painful it's safer to
be a night than an altar boy for ceremony I'm looking forward to
the mutton immediate bring some hold on to newer and quibbling
cabling. Write that down so I gotta get that the table hold on
to new era is the fresh new herring that the whenever they
have the new catch the
John C. Dvorak: first catch of the year and you eat it raw or
you eat it raw?
Adam Curry: What would you slathered with our onions?
John C. Dvorak: Do you eat it with Is there any is it's not
that oily crap? Yet it was very fat so yeah, no I did there's
this stuff you buy it's like tinned usually and it's good.
It's dangerous Dane Z to special explain this. It's a herring
that is completely just marinated in a thick viscous oil
Adam Curry: now so these have obviously been in salt first,
you know to fry away anything that will kill you. You hold it
by the tail so they cut the head off the gut the fish so then you
just have the you know, the two kind of sides left. You pour
some, some chopped some diced onions into that. And then you
tilt your head back you hold The thing up by its tail and you eat
it, and it is dynamite.
John C. Dvorak: I'm sure it's good. I like pickle. I've my
hearing I've been used by generally pickled herring. I
like the pickling. But then usually you don't get too many
of the full fishes which you can do that with the chunks,
unfortunately. All right.
Adam Curry: And then then while he does, he has does he have a
jingle? check on that for me? Well, yeah, he is. He has he has
a question here. He says PS Can you please explain what the
significance of the goat is? I get all of the show except for
the goat Well,
John C. Dvorak: what well there's no significant
significance to the goat. It's just we started playing this
goat because it sounds like a person screaming and then we
started mixing it in with other things and then somebody came up
with the idea of goat karma. So we put it in with a Karma
there's no it's just it's
Adam Curry: evolved and also there was goat yoga. I think
maybe that's when it
John C. Dvorak: I don't think so start talking about the goat
goat yoga.
Adam Curry: Does anyone know the the the genesis of the goat?
John C. Dvorak: I think it yourself evolved as a as a lark
joke
Adam Curry: although Sir Chris Wilson I mean he apparently
asleeping with the goat Oh, it was the goat it was the
emotional support animal that's how it came up. When people were
Yeah, yes. I think it was one of our haha funny jokes people were
put taking peacocks on airplanes. And then we said we
wanted an emotional support goat well it's
John C. Dvorak: just a funny sound we play stuff sometimes
it's go can you imagine having that your backyard somebody's
being murdered?
Adam Curry: goes back quite a while though this this goat
stuff? Yeah service goat karma. Yeah, here it is. This is it. I
knew we had it.
Unknown: You've got
Adam Curry: karma we call it service code karma.
John C. Dvorak: So there was service go
Adam Curry: service go to this. All right. Well, thank you very
much. See you at the roundtable with your whole bunch of new and
cabling a
John C. Dvorak: pleasure the law Young was the young from a
Jamestown New York comes in with $450 on one of these bank checks
with little note on this there's no jingles no karma. No note.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, thank you very much. This is
fantastic.
John C. Dvorak: Westland love that Yes. Appreciate Andrew, a
German in Canton, Georgia. $412.62. And that's another
check in he sent a not a handwritten but a typed note.
shall read. Finally, I'm paying off my enlightenment debt to the
no agenda show. Thank you for your patience and for my
persistent douchebaggery. Since my last donation, this humbled
token of my appreciation should reserve me a seat at the round
table and perhaps ensure a little future karma. And then
he's got all his accounting. So he got to 1033 Please Knight me
sir Andy of the hickory flat protector, small horses and he
is on the list. Okay, also, please add me to the birthday
list. I'm not sure if he's on there. 707 Because it's lucky
ends my birthday. 707 is good. That is a good day. My daughter
j is born on 711. Oh, yeah. Which I was so thankful for.
Okay, so
Adam Curry: Okay, so Wesley, no, not Wesley. Andrew German. Yes.
He's on the list.
John C. Dvorak: No, my saying that. Yeah. Andrew German I'm
sorry. Yes,
Adam Curry: he's on the list and we make sure he's his title is
proper yesterday. Andrew of the hickory flat protector of small
horses. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: He continues I add him I was in Austin last
year on business. It wasn't 10 minutes before I was brushed
back by a green scooter and stepped in dog crap. It was the
beginning of a wonderful three days where John we recently sold
our startup in the little office by the railroad tracks for a ton
of dough. And now we have to move to fancier digs. Sadly, I
became a bit of a foamer every time I heard the train horn.
Special shout out to the Atlanta local for Oh for looking forward
to our next meetup in a couple of weeks that shows had been
simply the best lately. No jingles, no karma, EMF and best
wishes.
Adam Curry: And I wasn't gonna say so. I there was something
Oh, he had nothing for the for the roundtable. No.
Requirements.
Unknown: He's good to go. Okay. No, fish.
Adam Curry: Thank you very much, Andrew. Fancy. You're the
roundtable.
John C. Dvorak: Onward here. Mark, Mark Malan in Baton Rouge,
Louisiana. 333 74. Happy Independence Day. Please, please
count this donation as a point for independent state contest.
All right. Do you have this Whoa, he's gonna count this for
Yes. 74. He's gonna put this pennies in. So he's on the he's
American okay. This contribution honors the American legacy of
free speech that Canada does not have, which is demonstrated
twice I read it exactly I was written by the way, which is
demonstrated twice a week on the best podcast in the universe for
jingles can I get John Brennan's innocent until alleged guilty?
Fear is freedom from Ben Shapiro and the Ben Shapiro laugh adios
mofos
Adam Curry: the Ben Shapiro laugh don't think it's labeled
as such but I'll do I'll do a an equally as good Ben Shapiro for
you people are innocent until well alleged to be involved in
some type of criminal activity.
Unknown: Freedom subjugation is liberation contradiction is
driven by the fact that this world by
God you've got karma
John C. Dvorak: Vincent, James and Madison Alabama comes in at
$333 and he gets he gets upgraded to night comes at
night. This puts me over the top to become an unneeded always
gonna be a
Adam Curry: bear. Well, so here's here's what happened. I
got a note from the back office,
John C. Dvorak: right? This guy has to be knighted Nitish. And
then he becomes a
Adam Curry: baron in one sitting.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. This is great against the Baron though,
which is different. Yeah. He's apparently he just was he's been
a night for a while. He just never cashed in on it. So he's
bladed so it's not a black night because it wasn't our screw up.
It was his bed. It wasn't a screw up. He is intentional. I
could go on. I will send my accounting via email, which he
did and love to be knighted on the fourth, which is today I
like this actually was a promotion we could have done. I
said I'll send my title or he we got all this stuff. And he's You
mean
Adam Curry: we could have done freedom nights?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Freedom nights like freedom
fries. Could have we? You know, we did a lot of we leave a lot
on the table.
Adam Curry: We do. Because we want to do content in the show.
Which Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: we got other things to do besides scheming.
Steve 200 Just plain Oh, Steve's he's in a Satan's asshole. AKA
Orlando, Florida.
Unknown: Okay. All right, grabbing it.
John C. Dvorak: Steve from Satan's asshole. If you've ever
been to Orlando during the summertime, you'd understand why
I dub it Satan's asshole. Please give me a D douching. You've
been de deuced I've been listening a little over two
months now thanks to my good friend Kenny the German Kerman.
I would also like to thank John the brewer for introducing Kenny
the German Kerman because without him I may have never
found the podcast. Thank you and keep up the great work.
Adam Curry: Love how that works. Thank you very much. Thank you,
Steven. Thank you. Kenny, the German Carmen and missin
John C. Dvorak: John the brewer and John the Brewer, who stopped
brewing apparently Oh no. Keith Gibson $200 The brand discussion
from Sunday was great and another example of the excellent
work done by the show. Happy for it happy fourth in a nice of F
cancer jingle thank you for your courage
Unknown: you've got karma.
John C. Dvorak: Steven Keith are two Associate Executive
producers for show 1152 And that's our group of associates
and executive producers for the show and want to thank them for
supporting this show and keeping everything going on even keel
Adam Curry: yeah great turnout for for a day off here in the in
the United States of Gitmo nation proper. Thank you for
executive producing or associate executive producing it is an it
is a duty for some an innate obligation. And others
participate in many other ways people give lower amounts will
be thanking them $50 And above and our second segment, but also
you heard us thank our artists for our artwork, and there's
just a lot of things to be thankful for particularly on
this day of freedom. So remember, we'll be back with
another show on Sunday. It could be a best of if I'm watching the
world's woman Cup soccer, but maybe I'll just show up just for
the heck of it. Please support us at VO rec.org/and. Now that
you know the entire genesis of the goats, I mean go propagate.
Unknown: Our formula is this. We go out we hit people in the
mouth
Adam Curry: I do have a note of business or two notes of
business to discuss briefly when One is I still haven't received
the wedding video from you. Thanks.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, I have it. I have uploaded it to the cosmic
weenie. And I will give you this specific link. It's nothing you
can accidentally find obviously, because it's too big. It's a
gigabyte.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we'll see. So you pretty much just gave
everybody licensed to go and find this video on your cosmic
weenie. Like you can't do a directory listing?
John C. Dvorak: No, you can't you you end up with a page. You
can't find it and you want to download a gigabyte. No. Oh,
just take it off. Now I don't want to burden the site with a
gigabyte downloads. Oh. I mean, one one fact. Once you take it
down, I'm taking I'm gonna
Adam Curry: get rid of it. But we got our photos. We got the
wedding photos. Finally they came back. Oh,
John C. Dvorak: yeah. There anything good? Yes. This next
newsletter to Sunday newsletter. The Sunday newsletter could use
some photos.
Adam Curry: Yeah, definitely. There's some. I guess there's
great photos of
John C. Dvorak: you dancing. Yes. Good. We'll use those.
Adam Curry: Yes. There's also photos of the conga line with
Horowitz I
John C. Dvorak: think I definitely want that.
Adam Curry: There's, there's actually, there's a photo of
you. I think you mean me, me. Grand Duke David Foley and then
Horowitz is in the back. And he almost looks like like a mafia
hitman. That's kind of standing there and you're protecting us.
It's very, very odd. These are great photos. So yes. We shall
ensure you have a few to use. anything embarrassing is always
good, right?
John C. Dvorak: It's always the best. And that's what people
want to see in the newsletter if they haven't signed up or if
they've given up on the newsletter because there's one
too many appeals. A lot of people get sick of it. But the
newsletter I think is a is a top notch product. Yes,
Adam Curry: I agree. It's it's an outstanding product actually.
John C. Dvorak: It's always got a laugh there's always a good
laugh in there. So we
Adam Curry: really owe the second piece of business I'm
sorry, is a reminder it's been on the list for several shows
now and somehow it just keeps slipping our mind probably cuz
we talked about it after the show which is dumb which while
we don't do that very often talk about anything except the show.
You are working on a radio play one night
John C. Dvorak: I'm gonna do 10 RADIO PLAYS Whoa. Yeah, because
I can do radio plays you know how to do on my I've done him in
in this when I was at Foothill College taking broadcasts that
we did radio plays it was archaic, but it was doable. But
we had a real on the air radio station which is still exists KF
RC and this was a can't foresee no good No, it's not can't
foresee is something else. I can't remember. But it's a good
station good students station. And but it had a lot of power.
It wasn't like a wimpy little local station. Anyway, I've
decided because I've been got I don't know why I've gotten a
hair up my ass. But I've decided I've been researching Broadway
plays from the burns mantel series of best plays, which he
started doing in 1919 Guy was born in 1870. And every year he
did this for every season of Broadway. And there's a lot of
old plays in there that would make excellent short half hour
radio plays, if you adapted them and adaptations is the way you
do these things. And so I want to do a 10 of them. And I need
some voice acting talents. Oh well,
Adam Curry: I'm glad you came to me John was you know,
outstanding, your voice pronounced Occator
John C. Dvorak: and that's a good example of why not looking
for but I will say I am missing. Although you have one on the
line that might work. I am missing the big Boomer the big
booming voice of frontline workers I already told you who
I'm going to try and move he's got the big booming do
Adam Curry: we mention him or do we not mention besides like
Darren O'Neal?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Darren O'Neal apparently has a nice big
Boomer
Adam Curry: massive Boomer Hello the air no Darren I was the man
I think that's for
John C. Dvorak: but if anybody out there is in does work you
know as a drama, VO local theater anything you want to do
some voice work is going to be pieced together. It's not like
you're all we're all gonna go into a studio and do this thing.
Now. It's going to be posted, which is going to take some time
but you all the roles would be just doled out to people and
sometimes more people than one so you can get the best of the
of the best. And you just read the script into a mic if you got
a mic and a recording system
Adam Curry: into your Yeti
John C. Dvorak: Blue Yeti Blue. Use your Yeti Blue and then just
yak into it and then just send me the tapes and I'll piece them
together after after you know but we need some auditions some
people need to send some stuff and I know we have probably
about 50 people out there already have Dame Tanya should
do it and she's an actress. And there's a few other people I
mean
Unknown: sorry you have me I want to view it you want to
John C. Dvorak: do you can do about six or seven good voices
really? I want you to do it. You're crazy voices. Okay? You
gotta tell me which one you'll just find stuff for everybody.
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, so you what you're saying is the part was
written for me. Thank you, John, I appreciate it
John C. Dvorak: a number of those for sure. And what
Adam Curry: play are we doing? Well,
John C. Dvorak: well, there's one is an hour I tried to do
half hours I'm going to do is a couple of different plays. One's
called the Red Planet, which is a very interesting play. I'm not
going to discuss these plays in detail now, because it would
take up too much valuable time. But I'm also thinking of doing
the RE re adaptation of 1984 from the which was done as a
radio play four times, including once by the BBC, which took it
was a two hour play was too long. But there was a version
done in about 1953 by the actor's Theatre Guild out of New
York, and they had a radio show for a while. And they did a
version I think is just dynamite. It might be worth
redoing.
Adam Curry: Okay. Cool. And promotion. And we're just
putting this up with him. Is it a podcast that can people
submit? You know, it's
John C. Dvorak: possible that we could use this as a because it'd
be half hours to run a couple of them is as half of a filler show
when we do a?
Adam Curry: Oh, that's an interesting idea. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. It wouldn't hurt.
Adam Curry: I like that.
John C. Dvorak: They'll be it'd be family family stuff.
Adam Curry: It's a family as a family thing. Nice. I'm all in
like the idea.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, here's what got me. I know how
radionuclides collected all the really the great radio
placement, the 30s and 40s. And I like them, they're good.
They're good material. And then but they're, they've been
continuing to do them to this day. And most of the people
doing modern radio plays they're doing now like, coming out as we
speak. All the voicing is done by a bunch of squeaky can't kind
of fame millennials that have a lousy voice. They can't act.
It's just like it's it's, it's, it's cringe worthy. And there's
two or three troops and I genuine troupe of people, maybe
six or seven people that are doing a lot of these plays, and
they're not good.
Adam Curry: We could do auditions on the show. short
ones.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, speaking of which, holy moly. Did you catch
this? The auditions of the Mueller report the movie?
John C. Dvorak: No, I'm sure this is a gem.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So and this is from Tom Steiner.
Steyer, the same buyer that at the end, yeah, the impeach Trump
guy. So after the stellar, let me see, we had the what was the
thing that Rob Reiner did, which video that he did one recently
directed was that everyone talking about the reading of the
Muller report, then we had the play the reading of the Muller
report. So now, what they're pretending and this is, it'll be
great in audio only because you don't see the actors. Very often
or, in fact, incredibly frequently, actors will be asked
to record something at home to read a side as it's called to
read aside from the script, which is this little one page
typically as an audition. And, and that is usually a pre round
that is done before people are called in for a cattle call. But
often celebrities or people of some de Liberty status will be
asked to do this. And so they took a handful of celebs, and
sent them aside for the motion picture, the mullah report the
movie and so they're reading from this and the gag is that
they're reading from it and they think it's fiction. They don't
realize it's real. And of course, it's acted and it's shit
acting which makes it so meta. I have to play it for you okay,
the frame looks good. Nobody ever gets apart from a self
tape. That's true. Hi, my name is Minnie Dr. Deborah mess and
Unknown: very when rice cub Anika Noni Rose Shriner
Acevedo Joshua Molina,
Rob Cordray. Jon Cryer, my
name is Yvette Nicole Brown and I'm reading for Muller report
report. Report. Muller
report. The movie thanks for the opportunity. According to Comey
is account at one point during the
dinner the president stated I need loyalty.
I expect loyalty, I need loyalty.
I expect loyalty. What? Okay. This was
from the real report. It is really serious. No, no fucking
way. It's
the real Mueller report. Word for word. Yeah. Come on
President told the FBI director that he needed loyalty.
Get the fuck out of here. Trump made public statements that
included the following Russia. If you're listening, I hope
you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I
think it'd be rewarded mightily by our press. I mean, it got
impeached. This guy, right duck. Yeah, I'm
reading the thing. It's a mess. Is this supposed to be funny or
terrifying? Because it's both they're saying the president's
lawyer says the President told him Muller has to go. Then Trump
asked him to say that it never happened. That's in the report.
The Mueller report, right? Read this thing. This is really
scary. This is some terrifying shit. It's a fucking nightmare.
To be bummed out. I don't want to be in this. Oh my god, this
is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I'm fucked. I'm
fucked on. Fuck, I'm fucked. I'm sucked. Is that how it's gonna
end? I hope so.
Adam Curry: There you go. How fabulous. Oh, so well done
Hollywood. And by the way, where was anyone with a true
interpretation of the unfucked? Line? And you can interpret that
and it's just written, right? It's everyone interpreted as
I've thought, Oh, my God, I'm thought How about fucked? Could
be any any type of interpreter. There's
John C. Dvorak: a lot of interpretation. But the one that
gets me which is not is not you don't have to interpret because
we heard them all say it, which is that, hey, he was given one
of his ad lib speeches was in front of the large audience at
25,000 saying, hey, Russia, if you see if you can find that
30,000 emails, you know that press will reward you. You never
said he was rewarded. And thank you for her dad. And it's a
joke.
Adam Curry: Thank you for bringing that up. There is some
new developments regarding the well at first it was 30,000
emails and then somehow the magic number came in and became
33,000 emails which I always found like
John C. Dvorak: earlier, but that was that meant it was
important. It's a
Adam Curry: very important thing. Obviously. Chris Farrell
of Judicial Watch. Judicial Watch has a right wing funded
group of lawyers, but they maniacs. They are via their
attack dogs for sure. And
John C. Dvorak: they're in their their honcho, the guy who
represents them on Twitter and Tom just pumped up guy Tom
Fitton. Yeah, who's I'm surprised he's not like kissing
his biceps every so often.
Adam Curry: Well, regardless of his physique, Chris Farrell is
not the guy on Twitter, not the pumped up guy, but he is a
lawyer. And he reports on this particular show, which I don't
know if it's a rate. Well, it's the Sebastian Gorka does either
podcast or radio show and I had to cut the guy out I had to cut
Gorka out of the whole thing because the way he operates
which is unlistenable is you'll start saying something He'll
interrupt every six seconds, repeat exactly what you said.
Luckily, there was some delay in their communication. So I was
able to chop Gorka up and he's fucking excuse me, he's really
annoys them out of there. I sliced him out. So there's a
couple of unnatural jumps. Maybe what happened is they'll just
give you the background and we'll go into the clip. Judicial
Watch, wanted information about the freedom. There's a Freedom
of Information Act for these documents for all the emails,
everything at the State Department hat. And apparently
the State Department was so arrogant and being such dicks
about it, that one or two judges said you know what, screw you
guys, mandatory deposition under oath of anybody you guys want
within the State Department. And they got one guy in the record,
his name is John Hackett. And here is the story about that
testimony. This is
Unknown: big stuff, because we have John Hackett is a former
State Department official. He was the guy in charge of what
they call the Directorate of Information Programs and
Services, which is a very governmental way of saying all
the records all the Fourier related stuff, among others, but
in particular for you, because we had asked this goes all the
way back to Benghazi. So this is the guy at State Department who
is responsible for processing and handling all these records
and turning them over. He we deposed him, meaning one of our
attorneys, actually two of our attorneys sat down and the State
Department and the Justice Department's behavior and
conduct in court has been so outrageous that they got really
pissed off and they said, You know what, we're not just going
to do this on paper. You're going to get government
officials under oath and make them swear to it and you can ask
whatever questions you want and then the depositions themselves
the the transcripts, we posted our website so everybody can
read what what went on. This is outrageous. Mr. Hackett was
interviewed in a deposition under oath. And he said, Look, I
warned Hillary Clinton her staff, the Deputy Secretary of
State I a cast of characters, I warned them about what they were
doing with records. He had knowledge that they were trying
to destroy more than 30,000 emails and he said, What is your
practice? What's your program? How are you arriving at this
decision? What's the guidance? She was running her own server?
It's completely unlawful. But they knew that she was using a
Blackberry fact he said Mr. Hackett said under oath, I saw a
clip on the television of her using a Blackberry on a flight
and that he goes, What's with the Blackberry, it alarmed him,
this guy was actually trying to do his job. He's trying to be a
good civil servant. And he was freaked out by it and said, What
are we doing with this set of records, who's looking at them?
He was astounded by it. And he repeatedly warned the entire
chain of command of what was going on. He was alarmed at
their destruction of emails. He knew that there was another
attorney involved, who was essentially the cover up artists
for all this. In fact, the person who was actually working
in the Office of Legislative Affairs, this is guilty
knowledge, foreknowledge knowledge while it was going on,
and then in the aftermath, this you know, what are we going to
do to destroy and cover up and hide? It's utterly corrupt?
Yeah.
Adam Curry: This is what Hillary Clinton some of it all, well,
this is what Hillary Clinton meant when she said, we're all
we will all hang together from nooses.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah. That's what she meant. Yeah, but
it turns out she's wrong. Remedies hanging from any nooses
not yet. Well,
Adam Curry: I mean, we we even I remember us on the Blackberry,
we use using the Blackberry, BlackBerry, si government apace.
You can use a Blackberry
John C. Dvorak: Crackberry I have a ash atom if you want to
play God, I'm
Adam Curry: always interested in. I want to play Do I have a
choice? Can I opt out?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you can say no, not now. I got a clip.
Adam Curry: No, what I need is my jingle. All right. My Jingle
All right, I'm ready. Is it? Okay, well, no, I can do more. I
have another genius. As well, he know Oh, really? Well, I don't
know. But here we go.
John C. Dvorak: All right. Okay. Sorry. Did that. Let's go with
number one. This is an interesting guy. It's just been
going on. There's a big scandal because the integration in
schools you know, Kamala Harris is making a big stink about
being bused when the when the Berkeley schools are already
integrated. And they went over with to talk about that. But it
turns out the big bastion of liberalism in this country and
and multiculturalism and diversity is New York, and
they're the worst for all the where and this play this clip
the landmark 1954
Unknown: Supreme Court decision, Brown versus Board of Education
declared school based racial segregation to be
unconstitutional. It was intended to desegregate schools.
But that isn't exactly what happened, at least in New York
State. Researchers have found that New York City has some of
America's most segregated schools, and the first of a two
part report examining school diversity and equity in New York
City. I met with a group of students protesting segregation
and visited a district in Brooklyn with a plan to increase
diversity. This is part of our ongoing series chasing the
dream, poverty and opportunity in America on the 65th
anniversary of Brown versus Board of Education. Last month,
students from across New York City gathered in Times Square,
they handed out newspapers declaring retire segregation and
called to the city's public schools to be integrated.
There's been
65 years since segregation in schools on the basis of race was
ruled unconstitutional.
A UCLA study of public schools found in 2014 and again this
year that New York remains the most segregated state for
African American students with 65% of them in intensely
segregated schools. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: The question is what state is number two? Texas?
Unknown: Wrong now?
Adam Curry: Because Austin Austin has nothing but white
schools, pretending, pretending to be integrated.
John C. Dvorak: It's another bastion of liberalism. Illinois
is number two. Chicago interest Oh, yeah, that's what I thought
that was interesting myself. Okay. Let's play a clip to
Unknown: the study found it was the second most segregated state
for Latino students. Ah,
John C. Dvorak: what is the first most segregated state for
Latino students? New York being number two California?
Unknown: Yes, I nailed that.
John C. Dvorak: They're bastion of liberalism.
Adam Curry: They talk a big game don't they?
John C. Dvorak: Tell like a big game and a bunch of phonies game
and do nothing just like
Adam Curry: Austin once told I got a bunch of phonies in Austin
to phonies yet talk. You got your diversity. You got all your
programs, you have your meetings, your council meetings,
your phone A's.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's pretty much it. Big talk, no
action. Now the default this is just a wrap up clip as yet no
more questions.
Unknown: We sat down with three new york city high school
students, members of the group integrate NYC who've been
meeting with school district leadership, urging them to
implement what they call a real integration plan for the next
generation of students.
Looking at how the city is segregated. We've noticed that
there are five main ways that desegregation happens,
the students plan addresses what they call the five R's,
the enrollment process, the resources that are distributed
the relationships in the schools and the curriculum, restorative
justice practices, and teachers really integration in schools,
low resource for everybody. And how do you get
there by getting more young people into movement, because
they're the ones that are affected by the system, telling
students that don't feel like leaders that they are leaders
and they can make change in their own schools?
What does an integrated school look like to
an integrated school would reflect the outwards community,
if there's a certain percentage of white students Black, Asian,
Latin X, the school should be able to reflect that their
students who like maybe their first language isn't English,
right? Students are English language learners, students with
disabilities, there's different ways that students experience
life. And all of those different experiences put together in a
school community are what make it so different and special and
help the students learn from not only the content they're being
taught, but each other.
John C. Dvorak: Each other. They don't know what they're doing.
In other words,
Adam Curry: I do some research. Yeah, so I have, I had my
thoughts on this type of stuff. And let me see this comes from
education next. Today, Los Angeles and California as a
whole have abandoned integration as the chief mechanism of school
reform and embraced charter schools instead. This has
happened all over the country. But California has led the way
it has 630,000 students in charter schools more than any
other state, and the Los Angeles Unified School District has more
than 154,000 of them. charters are associated with choice and
innovation, important elements of the good life that California
is famous for, in a deep blue state open in the street, a deep
blue state that good life theoretically includes
diversity, and many white liberals believe charters can
achieve that too. After all, a do it yourself school can do
anything at once. But it doesn't, because you're phonies.
We got tons of charter schools in Austin, phonies, the bus
white children to black schools, that's what I'm for.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I'm not for any of it.
Unknown: I'm just yelling in the wind.
John C. Dvorak: I think the whole thing is ridiculous that
people should go to the school that's closest to them. And if
it happens to be largely biker rot, largely wider, it mixed or
they're halfway between this and that, that's the way it is you
just cater to them. But you make sure that they have the same
quality of education, which is the hard part, they can't do
that. So it's just a mess.
Adam Curry: Well, at any rate, um, by the
John C. Dvorak: way, New York is going to be if anyone dies to
invest in things, I think private schools and maybe
charter schools, New York in particular is going to be a
target because they are taken down. There's your New York's
got a bunch of these special pointy toy at school, Stuyvesant
and the arts and whatever it is the dramatic art school there's
a bunch of these high schools that are of high and public
schools for kids that are special in terms of like ears,
they can sing, they can dance, or they are they're really
smart. Like they're geniuses, they put them in these special
schools and they keep them there and they get them push them off
to MIT, and they're good to go. Those are all through. They're
not gonna let those be and you're not gonna if you're a
smart kid, you can end up anywhere. So private schools is
what's going to happen in New York, they're going to take
over, they've stayed off New York has stopped a private
school movement is LA's private schools, but they've put a kind
of tamped it down by having these special schools for
special kids who are really smart or really talented. But
now that's over so they're just gonna just fall apart. New
York's screwed
Adam Curry: in California is not no California's been
John C. Dvorak: screwed. California's workout pooping on
the street going on here? No, California is a big mess and
then they're now they're checking their chart. Gene does
extra gasoline tax is going to be they're going to add we
already have the highest gasoline price in the country
they're going by law I think is coming up is going to be
exhibited drop 75 cents on it. And then they're gonna drop
every year another 50 cents 50 cents 50 cents forever, man. So
it's just ended GE, they can't do anything about it at least
for now. How long are you going to hang in there?
Adam Curry: The best so you don't go anywhere. So you don't
need gas. You don't need petrol. So you're just just hanging
around to the poop comes all the way up your your walkway
floating
John C. Dvorak: in yet on the other side of the bay. So it's
the Marina Bay is full of poop stinks.
Adam Curry: So I was watching Tucker Carlson on I think it was
Monday. And he did his whole week from Japan and North Korea.
And he got an interview with the President. And he was at the at
the now famous. I won't say infamous but the actual famous
crossing of the demilitarized zone into North Korea. Which by
the way, from everything I saw, the President walked that
himself no secret service, nothing was around him. He
walked out himself. I thought that was like, all right. You're
pretty sure yourself. Yeah, I think that took some nerve. But
I
John C. Dvorak: took it because he did probably didn't take
nerve because I believe that I was telling people how much I'd
love to go to North Korea and the liberals, you know, in the
area. Oh my god, that horrible dictator, how would you How
could you do that? You're gonna get killed. I don't believe
that's true, I think is bullcrap. Well, the Trump didn't
have a problem walking across. But of course, liberals will
have made a big fuss about it because oh my god.
Adam Curry: Not just liberals just, well, people who are in
John C. Dvorak: a lot of people. The right wing isn't for this
either.
Adam Curry: But Tucker Carlson was doing something very
strange. He was kept taking pictures of the North Korean
Secret Service guys. And he kept showing them from his iPhone.
Oh, look, these guys What did it it was really weird. I mean, I
don't know why he did that. But he kept saying, Oh, look at
these uncouth individuals. Oh, they look so strange. Whoa,
that'll make you think like that. Have you ever taken
pictures of our Secret Service guys, they look pretty creepy,
too. It was just it was unpaper. That
John C. Dvorak: was just a pass on the images to the CIA or
wherever Tucker's really working for
Adam Curry: now. There's an interesting point. I like that.
John C. Dvorak: So what you do you go in and take pictures of
you know, the crowd, you only take pictures of the crowd, but
you actually zooming in a certain characters and then you
pass them on, you get paid? Well.
Adam Curry: Then he had an interview with the President,
which was pretty dry. There wasn't a lot going on. But we
here at the no agenda show we have a theory that the truth
always wants to come out. And it slips out in weird ways. And
with this President, you never quite know. But he slipped out a
lot of truths in his in his speaking and he just kind of
continues and no one ever calls him on it, which was weird. When
I
John C. Dvorak: heard whatever calls anybody on anything,
Unknown: you can very close to send the US military to strike
Iran, you pull back at the last moment. You were criticized by
Neo cons in Washington for doing that. They want you to strike
Iran. Why do you think they
want and I was given a lot of credit by most people. A lot of
people gave me a lot of public was on your side for sure. Other
people said that was a great presidential moment, which was,
you know, rather shocking to hear. So we shut down and
unmanned drone. And
John C. Dvorak: what? Wow, it's a good one. Well, hold on a
second. Right. Dan Tucker, of course, caught that. He's
listening carefully. Because Tucker, when people interview
somebody, they listen to what they have to say. And so Tucker
caught that and called him on it. And then Trump corrected the
problem, right?
Adam Curry: No, he showed more of those pictures of the
security guys no
Unknown: to hear. So we shut down and unmanned drone and
yelling was over their territory.
Adam Curry: No, it's worse. He affirms that we shot down the
unmanned drone by saying yeah, yeah,
Unknown: so we shut down and unmanned drone and they claimed
was over their territory which it wasn't but they would say
that so on top of it they'll say unmanned and over their
territory and then we go in before I sent them out. They had
to give me everything I wanted to know by seven o'clock
Adam Curry: fine. So when I hear that kind of stuff, it's G
wasn't it's like, was it Rumsfeld? Let me find it. I'm
sure we have the Rumsfeld to be have a note here. This is
Rumsfeld. Talking about flight 93
Unknown: cents if we imagine the kind of world we would face If
the people who bombed the best ball and Mosley or the people
who did the bombing in Spain are the people who attack the United
States in New York shut down the plane over Pennsylvania attack
the Pentagon
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah shut down the plane over Pennsylvania sure
sure that happened no no when I hear this stuff I think okay, so
we shot down the drone I don't know it just doesn't sound like
he like that's it sounds like the truth wind to come out that
whole thing sound like a bull crap false flag in the whole
thing was a bull crap. Luckily, no one the President didn't fall
for it. Is just thank God we do this show. Who else want to be
able to share this stuff with except my wife.
John C. Dvorak: It and b Oh codger. We get to be old codgers
and in public. And the way I see it, here's one of the things
that you can do one of these things that got my got my
attention was well, here's by the way, here's the I'm going to
skip that and go to this. This is because I've been following
this especially on CBS with the Major Garrett because the the
media who is keeps going on and on, but they don't like to have
this July 4 thing going on, especially with the play, this
plays a flag,
Adam Curry: oh tanks, tanks and weapons. They get the tanks.
John C. Dvorak: And so it's now it's we used to be a nonpartisan
celebration of July 4. Now, it's all about Trump. And they keep
saying that, and I don't see that it's all about Trump. It's
all about Trump wanting to have a big party maybe. But it's not
about that. It's about the party itself. And so I've had a bunch
I kept collecting clips all week about this and Gary is the worst
but they finally backed off a little bit, but I thought we'd
do an update of the shindig which is tonight today, July 4
shindig in Washington DC with the tanks and here's they still
die. They still play this kind of a nasty thing.
Unknown: President is promising the show of a lifetime tomorrow
in Washington. Tonight as we speak, the military hardware is
being put into place. Stages and stands are being prepared and
our chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett is
at the Lincoln Memorial tonight major. Good evening, David and
welcome to a hot and humid steps of the Lincoln Memorial over my
shoulder you see the Army Band formerly known as Pershing zone.
Part of the pageantry here, they're working through their
rehearsals. To my left, you see one of two Bradley infantry
vehicles, part of the militarized pageantry. And when
the President talks about the show, that's an important word
because this is his show stage managed for weeks by the White
House of the cost, and there will be many the President said
well, that'd be very little compared to what this is all
worth. We have one figure that's worth noting. Reportedly, the
National Park Service will have to use $2.5 million in user fees
from other national parks to help defray some of the costs
here, David major we know the President will be there. Who
else is going to be with him? Well, let me give you some
visuals on that my photographer Tony Furla will show you the one
bleacher wrapped in bunting that is for VIPs, who are the VIPs
that will be for the White House to decide. Some of those VIPs
will be Republican Party donors, creating a bit of partisanship
muddying what is historically a nonpartisan event. As for all
the other matters here the district government wants to be
repaid for any additional costs. The biggest thing here to think
about David and one of the biggest challenges for everyone
the president and involved in this the weather forecast for
this Fourth of July here 80% chance of thunderstorms and
possibly lightning if
Adam Curry: I think I can tap that.
John C. Dvorak: By the way, the host of the anchorman should
have asked him. Why are you shouting? It? Okay?
Adam Curry: Our topic see you really don't understand. You
don't understand what this is about. I mean, what why do we
have military parades? We've had them in America we I recall
being on a drill team.
John C. Dvorak: Talking about who you are to baton twirler.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, you get you get a an old I guess an M
one. M one Yeah, it's well, it's heaviest. F it weighs
John C. Dvorak: a ton.
Adam Curry: You gotta squirrel that around. You got to march
and then and I've we've talked about this for sure. Many, many
years ago. No. Yes. Michel, remember lies
John C. Dvorak: you and in this thing. I will I will tell you
the tall guy you'd be out in front in a
Adam Curry: minute. I will jog your memory code 44
John C. Dvorak: jugs, nothing code.
Adam Curry: If you hear code 44 That means that there's horse
crap and yeah, be prepared to march over it or step through it
or whatever. That was code 44 Yeah. So Why do we do this? Is
it pride? Is it personally I think, you know, with the amount
of money we spend on it. I don't mind seeing it and it's a big fu
to the rest of the world. That's what we do. We here we are,
we've got the biggest we have the most powerful. Screw you
This is us. Everyone else does it except for Europe than they
don't have the European Armed Forces yet France. Well, you
see, you're wrong. You're wrong. France doesn't do it. For those
reasons. France does it for different reasons. And you're so
wrong, that you could never be joy Reid's friend.
Unknown: And can I just You mentioned, you know, France and
Kim Jong Un who, you know, Donald Trump can greatly admires
Kim Jong Un he sort of aspires to be sort of a mini you know,
Putin or Kim Jong Un he wants to be that.
Adam Curry: No, this is the this is a I don't like the term. So I
I rarely use it if at all. This is true Trump derangement
syndrome. I don't like the term because it's not a real thing.
But the the, the apparent effects of whatever's going on
is a real thing to say this is TDs aspires
Unknown: to be sort of a mini you know, Putin or Kim Jong Un
he wants to be that kind of that kind of absolute power. He
claims Kim Jong Un's people just adore him well they have no
choice because he throw them in a gulag and probably kill them.
But you think about the Bastille Day celebration, what is that
celebration about what is the message that's meant to be sent?
Adam Curry: Well let me stop since you brought up the steel
day What is the message what is the message to be sent by having
a parade on Bastille Day before I have joy read school you
John C. Dvorak: I would say was similar to the Fourth of July
was the French Revolution yes the day that everything you know
happened if
Adam Curry: so who are the who was the show of force meant for
John C. Dvorak: chopped heads
Unknown: either like military Armada that's rolling down the
streets of Paris. It's a message to tyrants would Bastille Day
support our you know represent is the victory over tyrannical
rule?
Adam Curry: Is that what it represents?
John C. Dvorak: I think it's a stretch you could maybe say that
because it was when they overthrew the monarchy at the
time I think a guillotine pirate sighs of sorts make them eat
cake. I think a guillotine
Adam Curry: would have been more representative but okay, I'll
take it but
Unknown: the king and over the attempt for the King to return
the storming of the Bastille was about victory over tyrants. What
is the message when Kim Jong unrolls tanks down the streets
of his capital? The message is to democracies it's the messages
to people like us to Western democracies. You better be
careful because we the unified Korean North Korean people will
defeat you we have nukes be afraid of us. So what is the
message Donald Trump is trying to send by rolling tanks down
Constitution Avenue who is that message to? It's certainly not
to tyrants because he likes tyrants. He loves tyrants. It's
not to Putin. It's not to Kim Jong Un. It's not to the Saudis.
Is it to our friends, a friend democracies and we didn't
particularly like or is it to us? Is it to the resistance in
this country? I gotcha. Thanks.
Adam Curry: You're talking over the best part.
John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry. I'm used to listening to a ramble. I
mean, the Fourth of July is the fourth of July and it's but if
she's gonna use the tyrants analogy, it was because we
overthrew the British rule in our country, which were tyrants
because they made us pay taxes to them, and other minor things
at the time. And but it got we got fed up. So I don't see the
difference is that he wants to put some tanks in this which
Kennedy did by the way.
Adam Curry: Listen, listen, listen, before you go off.
Listen
Unknown: to teach an avenue. Who is that message to? It's
certainly not to tyrants, because he likes tyrants. He
loves tyrants. It's not to Putin, it's not to Kim Jong Un.
It's not to the Saudis. Is it to our friends, it turned
democracies who didn't particularly like or is it to
us, is it to the resistance in this country, I got tanks. I
have this military Armada. The message is a threat. It's always
a threat when you roll out your military, but it's to whom is
the threat and I suspect that the threat is to his fellow
Americans. And I hate to say that, but I think that Donald
Trump styles himself a tyrant, not a defeater of tyrants.
Adam Curry: That's right. It's the resistance is against the
American people. He's showing you, you stupid citizen, that he
can kill you with his tanks do what he says.
John C. Dvorak: Rather, who is that woman Joy
Adam Curry: read on MSNBC? Yes,
John C. Dvorak: she was I thought that was joy Reid was
the interviewer
Adam Curry: no joy Reid was on the afternoon like real
primetime. She doesn't get this was real exposure for her.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, my goodness intervene.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, I think so.
John C. Dvorak: I don't understand why they put up with
that. This is this is a to me. This is an executive problem at
CNN. and that they would have her on the
Adam Curry: air MSNBC.
John C. Dvorak: I thought she was a CNN nurse. She's MSNBC.
Okay, well, that's then I would blame Comcast executives for
pushing this sort of thinking because it's really harmful to
the public at large. It's extremely negative. It's
diluted, and dangerous. She's a very dangerous person to be
because there will always be somebody that buys into this
nonsense. As really shouldn't be, you know, if you could do it
on the corner says to hand out pamphlets, do it some other way
but to be given a free rein on a broadcasting network, which and
I would say she does show up on NBC and NBC is
Adam Curry: not a single person on that panel said, Yeah, hold
on a second. Taking that a little bit. Far. Perhaps they
want. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right on. Right on sister you nailed it.
We know what's going on. Orange Man, bad. Orange Man. Bad. But
the she's not the craziest person I caught this week. The
craziest has got to be our good old hat wearing friend.
Representative, Frederica Wilson. Of think she's Florida
congresswoman from Florida. She's the one with the cowboy
hats with the Bejeweled. cowboy hats. Yeah, yeah. So apparently,
she's pissed that people are making fun of representatives on
Twitter and social media. And she not only is outraged, but
she has a plan.
Unknown: Those people who are online making fun of members of
Congress are a disgrace. And there's no need for anyone to
think that is unacceptable. We're gonna shut them down and
work with whoever it is the shutdown,
Adam Curry: just gonna stop here.
John C. Dvorak: Not a lot of people her life second. Now you
condemned me for this some time ago. And I'm gonna call you out
on this. You condemn me because the speed of my clips was off by
like 10% or something. The speed on this clip is off at least
30%. And it should you should just pull it. It's not right.
There's nobody, it's not possible to sound like this.
That is
Adam Curry: her voice screwed up. That is her voice that is
Frederica Wilson. That is her voice. And as as much as you
despise the voice or think it's phony, a deep fake audio. She is
actually saying here that when people make fun of
representatives in Congress, they as in she and the
representatives will work with whomever they want need to to
shut them down. Now as much as I think the branding conversation
we had on the conversation we had on the last show was
important and adjust one. This is the shit that has this. This
is inquiry worthy. She's literally saying he or she will
collude with commercial companies to have people speech
shut down. Just because they're making fun of people in
Congress, this, although funny to listen to her nutty voice,
and I'm gonna play the whole clip. It's only 30 seconds. This
is actually she should be thrown out.
Unknown: People who are online making fun of members of
Congress are a disgrace. And there's no need for anyone to
think that is unacceptable. We're going to shut them down
and work with whoever it is the shutdown and they should be
prosecuted who cannot intimidate members of Congress not pregnant
members of Congress it is against the law. And this is
shame in this United States of America what do you say to that?
John C. Dvorak: Miami Miami Dade County?
Adam Curry: Is that what you're where she's from? Yep. And
that's it. Thank
John C. Dvorak: you Miami, Florida for giving us this woman
as your representative please your representative all you
sharp operators there in Miami.
Adam Curry: It's just I love how she says somebody like
John C. Dvorak: this even get in office with that voice, let
alone that stupid hat. And the fact that she's you know an
idiot.
Adam Curry: I think she needs to be hauled before some kind of
commission because she literally talked about deep platforming
people as a political operative as a representative as a member
of the government. That is actually censorship that is
actually illegal. Where am I way off base?
John C. Dvorak: I know I'm five blind ball for Screw it. That
Adam Curry: hat should be illegal.
Unknown: I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
John C. Dvorak: Okay and we do have a few people have thanked
for show 1152 which is a magic number somehow someone's pointed
that out and I got some buddies that was trying to do the math
so they couldn't do it. But let's start off with the
thanking Maxine Waters gravel is now up to this time this
donation was 145. So they're making a bum's rush for
knighthood for the
Adam Curry: Greiss nice and by the way, Maxine Waters gravel is
a dual citizen gravel. So that is $71 for being half
Scandinavian. Apologies that Maxine Waters gravel says for
burning down the White House and just also apologies for Justin
Bieber and Trudeau and $74 for being half Merkin no apologies
ever for anything. Gravel on
John C. Dvorak: Okay, so so far we have I'm going to start
Jake's doing it because these are the offbeat donors we have
one 174 from earlier and then we have one and one so we have two
to one. Okay, you can't we'll get down to the nitty gritty
whenever we get to the real donations. Jeffery Jax Parts
Unknown $115.20 Happy Fourth of July you get nothing there for
birthday or anything. John Robin $100 Darren O'Neal, big boys
Darren.
Adam Curry: Boomer. Boomer Boomer 200 ollars Darren
John C. Dvorak: Baker $100 Baron ladder kin $100. Andre hos in
San Diego.
Adam Curry: Does he have the Haas Haas racing team? Pass Haas
John C. Dvorak: has has or the Haas family that owns Levi's. I
don't know. Either one. He says here's a hundo for your efforts
against political BS and M five M mind control. I am so grateful
that I found your podcast roughly 10 years ago when I was
just a kid in high school. I even converted my sister Nina
and my wife Karen into regular listeners
Adam Curry: nice when he says hundo that reminds me of Rick
Dees. You remember Rick knees Rick meals in the morning? In
the morning every buck or whatever was Misko duck Rick
mate Well, Rick these are very famous morning radio disc jockey
and he did a parody song or a funny song Disco Duck in the
70s. But he was so rich that it probably still is. If someone
got him coffee, he'd be like, Thanks, man. Here's a hundo he
could kill you gay people a it was a Rick knees hundo and he
gave him 100 bucks. Hey, how you doing? Rick? hundo
John C. Dvorak: that's a bit that dad's that's like boss you
want? Yeah. That's the job I want. He wants he has some
jiggler because we put a couple of them with a Karma at the end.
And if you can get a pew pew ready. Oh, that would be great.
Oh, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. What we're looking for? I'm gonna see you
John C. Dvorak: at the end at the end of whoever's out here.
All right, go onward. So right here, I'm gonna mention this
video. We don't do jingle requests at this level. But the
jingle requests for alternative universe is not a jingle and you
can't request it. G L Rockwell at 841 Sir herb lamb Earl of
Georgia 808. A boom for America's birthday. He writes.
Nice. Happy Independence Day. Steven Hightower. Now here we
go. 74 and it is that counselors are 74 Anonymous 74 And these
are all 70 fours these are the 74 guys and as
Adam Curry: Steven is the SIR Tory Alta Burnett of slow Noma
and Glen Ellyn
John C. Dvorak: low Noma anonymous Eric Slayer and
Chicago with her sir Hey, moose. Parts Unknown Anthony Rodriguez
in Tucson Arizona. Jim garba. Zeus ski I'm guessing Joseph
Willis James more sir up. Kitty or syrup. Sir Eric VM Baron of
the valley in Van Nuys, sir Jeffro of the rock wall. Joel
Blazic in Reno, sir Gator of the North Texas swamps. Cassidy
Eastwood in Oklahoma City, Christian Moreno in Costa Mesa.
John de carne in Alpharetta, Georgia Can you write while I'm
reading these? Can you do a head count? So I have a number.
Adam Curry: Well, now all of a sudden I'm in charge of this.
No, I
John C. Dvorak: just read just counted numbers of 70 fours, sir
Matthew Blacknight of the ice giants in San Diego. I mean, I
can do it, but then I'd be doing it at the end. Brian Warner and
Bell Creek, Sir Thomas Nussbaum, who should get a call out a
noose bomb. In Virginia Beach, Virginia, he said To the Grand
Duke. Yes Sir John
Unknown: all worked for
John C. Dvorak: John Helmer in Shawnee, Kansas and Sir John
Knight and St. Patrick. Patron Saint of engineers. With Jay
Paul Miss showed the patron saint is from Heber springs in
Palma showed is from Parts Unknown. That's our total of 74
votes 2222 On top of two, so that's 24 total. Meanwhile, in
between here we got Jonathan Riesman 7333 Christopher Hora
Barak, in Pickering, Ontario, Canada with 71 and that would be
our first 71 donor to the bit license the day itself but it's
past but it's a July one donation. Okay, so now we got
the Canadians coming in. Here they come. So Vantrue del, in
Montreal. So Tristan banning in Toronto, and that's the end.
Adam Curry: Let's see, how do we do Canada want?
John C. Dvorak: 24 to four.
Adam Curry: There's no pride, man. They just got no pride. You
know what they do have shits Creek?
Unknown: About shit. Have you ever seen this
John C. Dvorak: show? Yeah. So I've just started
Adam Curry: that I we just finished season five. The last
one
John C. Dvorak: last been washing it all along.
Unknown: I love that show is a very funny
John C. Dvorak: show.
Adam Curry: And if you didn't tell me, I wouldn't have known
it was Scandinavian. It's kind of uncut. nadian. Good.
John C. Dvorak: Well, you got levy gene Levy, who's you know,
part of the Second City true bio Toronto,
Adam Curry: Chris Elliott.
John C. Dvorak: And Chris Elliott, who's you know, Bob
Bailey is someone who's dry, you know, the dry humor side of the
business. And then you have Katherine Harris, also from
Toronto, and then the girl and the young guys and O'Hara.
Catherine O'Hara. Catherine O'Hara, I'm sorry. Yeah. And I
think this mostly Canadian Janet thing. It's just a classic kind
of
Adam Curry: great show. It's produced by the CBC underlined
John C. Dvorak: force. Yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. It's completely No, I think it's over the
borderline farce. It's it's fantastic. Great show. So thank
you for that Canada. Too bad you don't love your country.
John C. Dvorak: We're still part of the Commonwealth.
Adam Curry: Yes, that's true. That's true.
John C. Dvorak: So we you know, Hail to the Queen. Sonya pain
comes in at 6969 Paragon, Indiana sir got Nate from
Sebastopol. 6969 Matthew Scott in Willard, Missouri 5646. He's
got an mp3 file
Adam Curry: that says that is an interesting donation. It's a
five G 4g donation. 5646 remember? I liked that the 5646
rock against 5g 4g donation. Good. Good. Good.
John C. Dvorak: I'm liking it. Sir Tom dari in DeForest,
Wisconsin 5510 That will Nick goes on the dime Sarah blaze in
Squamish BC 25. can count her as a Canadian
Adam Curry: I couldn't even add six bucks for her own country.
So I'm just kidding. Scandinavians.
John C. Dvorak: We love you. Yeah. France, especially you
Albertans Francisco to hate the D 432.
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on. Hold on one second. Sarah Blace. Let me
just make sure that made it through to the birthday list. I
see. That her who says she's got a birthday there.
John C. Dvorak: Today July 4 is his Brianna. Nathan
Rothenberger. I don't think it did.
Adam Curry: Okay, Nathan Rothenberger. From if it was it
from
John C. Dvorak: Shara from Sarah. Just Sarah's good, Sarah.
He knows who she is. Okay.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so yeah, I'm glad I caught that. Yeah, I'm
John C. Dvorak: glad you did to Francisco to hate fit for 30
Dudes, Sean. Luca chuck to D 240. Jeremy Cartwright Rockford,
Illinois. 50 These are following donors and 50 wraps us up.
Jeremy Cartwright, Matthew yet Jenna Ziskin Chicago Villa rial
Villa rial. My favorite name in Mercedes Texas. Bart Groot
Carrick in Heron
Adam Curry: Very good. Bart's throat character in Harlan
John C. Dvorak: Harlan serene cut Tanya cut Tanya loves the
show. Thank you for telling it like it is actually what she's
thinking we're telling it like it is with knowledge we can see
all sides and make intelligence decision that intelligent
decisions you guys rock.
Adam Curry: That's right. Wait to see my wedding pictures of me
dancing. You see how much I rock
John C. Dvorak: do you do when you don't see your dancing but
when you dance, do you, you have both thumbs in the air and you
go and you pump your thumbs up in the air and then just kind of
kick randomly.
Adam Curry: There is one actual shot of me dancing and I have my
fists out there and one thumb in the air. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah,
it's incorrect. It's super embarrassing.
John C. Dvorak: Elaine Bennis, this used to dance like that on
the Seinfeld show. Some people get Yeah, I remember that.
Robert dry Kosan Esmerelda Gak and rip on Ripon, Wisconsin.
Michael Janeski and lindora Pennsylvania Bradley leaden
Parts Unknown Scott e night in lost wages. Nevada. Jason deluzy
Oh, and Chatswood Pennsylvania. I think sir. And I Ichi Kanagawa
in San Francisco and thank all these folks are helping us get
show 1152 out the door. It was your help that we can do this.
Thank you very much.
Adam Curry: Did you know that during this program, the largest
earthquake in decades hit Southern California 6.6 that's
been expected 6.4 You didn't Well Southern California so you
wouldn't feel anything? No,
John C. Dvorak: you wouldn't feel it.
Adam Curry: Let me see. 10:33am quake was centered in the
Sierras Searles Valley. About 100 miles from Los Angeles
John C. Dvorak: will be safe Yeah,
Adam Curry: make sure you're checking on Facebook is do a
safe check ins everybody knows well yeah, please be safe, I
suppose is what scale what's
John C. Dvorak: make any difference anymore with that
number is because this is all Daikon the Richter scale out was
an objective recording and now it's an object so it was an
objective recording now it's all subjective. You you type in you
go to the USGS site and tell them what you felt
Adam Curry: Yeah, I just I like to count casualties
John C. Dvorak: yeah that's how that's that's the California
keeping them pretty low
Adam Curry: if you got no casualties is great earthquake.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's really fun for the writers it's
for the cleanup.
Adam Curry: Thank you to all who supported the show today. It
makes us super happy because here we are. It is supposed to I
was I was drinking my coffee out back doing the about 530 This
morning the show prep already I could hear the neighbors are
getting ready for Fourth of July the getting stuff out there but
the time I got my coffee before we started the show that got the
music playing Yeah, sir Jean texted me yesterday. Hey, I was
going to be out of town but now I'm in town so hey, what do you
guys do it for Fourth of July so well we're all working Thank you
very much I started 530 To be up around the same time you know
after all that around for this afternoon I'm gonna have a
burger watch some TV and go to sleep
John C. Dvorak: no you're not yes I am. What else are we gonna
do Jean coming over
Adam Curry: I say well he No He nailed that he said well in for
a free meal. I'll go hang out with non boring friends so
that's exactly why we're totally boring on Fourth of July we work
someone's got to keep this great country rolling
John C. Dvorak: what he wanted to come over in the morning
you'd want to come over your good did fireworks
Adam Curry: show about you but I'm tired after the show.
John C. Dvorak: Well here we have fireworks everywhere and we
got a lot of fires most of mediocre and a lot of them in
the fog but the best fireworks display generally speaking it's
not the greatest anywhere but it's a really good Fourth of
July fireworks show is in Richmond in over the San
Francisco Bay yesterday. There's no fog and what they did it last
night. It's a nice show. It's not the most expensive but it's
a very nice show and well thought out with a good finale
and there was enough of a breeze because you've probably had with
firework shows is that it round here usually there's no breeze
on fourth and the smoke starts to accumulate so as all the
fireworks go into the same exact spot, it just just hid behind
all the smoke from the previous explosion. But no it was moving
him out. So you get to see everything as clean as a
whistle. And that was yesterday. Today it'll be lousy now
Adam Curry: that's that's the peerage committee John they want
me to do the day meetings and the meetings and and the title
changes and everything. So I might as well comply.
John C. Dvorak: That was gonna go on and on about fireworks.
Adam Curry: That's right. Thank you very much. Also everyone who
came in under $50. You're supporting the value for value
network in a way that works incredibly well for us with
value but thank you to everybody who supports the show in any way
you do. And for financial support, which we do need
another show on Sunday. Please go to full red.org/and A couple
of comments as requested jobs, jobs, jobs. To end jobs Let's
vote for jobs.
Unknown: You've got karma
Adam Curry: and then I need a pew pew with that I guess. There
we go. Pew pew pew pew pew pew
take a look at the birthdays. Today is July 4 2019. Nathan
Rothenberger. Sara says Happy Birthday to you. July 4 is your
birthday and she says I love you forever and always baby. May you
be blessed today. Then we have Sonya Payne's is Happy Birthday
to her smokin hot husband Nathan Kane of Paragon, Indiana, and
Toby Langford will turn 47 On the sixth of July and finally
Andrew German will be celebrating on July 7, seven,
seven happy birthday from everybody here the best podcast
in the universe. We've got our meetups. We got a nice list of
them today. Meetup taking place in Seattle and Washington DC go
to no agenda meetups.com to find out exactly where these will be
taking place tomorrow, the fifth in Lisbon. That is in Portugal,
and I'd love to This is Lady Lisboa who's organizing that so
an actual Dame you get to meet her. July 6 Utrecht the
Netherlands July 9 in Knoxville, Tennessee, the 11th Charleston,
South Carolina, July 13. In Atlanta, then we have the 19th
Colorado Springs, Colorado. July 28, southwest London comes back
and congregate. Also, there's a brand new meetup listed
Chicagoland, Chicagoland meetup and want to make sure that
people are aware of that one I'm going to I wish we could do that
one. I'm not sure we can go on July 20 be great to get the
Chicago, the 26 St. Louis, also Portland, Oregon, then on the
27th Buffalo, New York and Frisco, Texas, and on July 28,
that's what we have on the list so far will be central Florida.
And thank you everybody who set these up, go to no agenda
meetup.com Find out if there's a meetup near you. It's just this
is something that is incredibly healthy to do. You can meet
people who are maybe not always like minded, but they're not
going to be triggered and freak out because everyone just has
good conversation. And yeah, it's kind of like John like you
and I 11 years together. We never had a fight it worked even
though we differ from opinion from time to time. No agenda
meetups.com. And let me say I do this in the right order, because
we do have a title change today, which will be a brand new night
going to Baron. So this is the unlighted Baron but first let's
get our blades out here. There you go. That's your fourth.
That's your Fourth of July blade. are you just happy to see
me?
John C. Dvorak: It's red, white and blue.
Adam Curry: Up on the stage here please. Terry Keller, Curt James
Andrew German and here goes through Nevada. Looks like we
all got dudes here once again. So gentlemen, you are about to
join the illustrious club with the no agenda Knights and Dames
and I'm hereby proud to pronounce the KC sir under the
radar. Sir Vincent drilling man of Greenbrier Woods Sir Andrew
of the hickory flat protector of small horses and Sir here called
Studebaker for you we have hookers and blow rent boys and
Chardonnay hold on to new and keep killing it. We got to chill
and polish potato vodka trophies entire smoke cowgirls and coffin
bars, fucking middle of bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider
Ness for ginger ale and durables. Breast milk and
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yours all you have to do is go to no agenda nation.com/rings
please fill out the information get that off to Eric so we can
get you the right size, get your address etc your postal deets
and once you have I went short in receipt of your ring your
sealing wax and your official certificate. Please tweet out
and and toot toot if you're on the mastodon Federation, tweet
and shoot pictures of your pride of being a no agenda. Night.
Don't want to care we have a one major title change today. You
heard it earlier Sir Vincent, who was just knighted as
grilling man of Greenbrier woods now becomes the Baron of the
Alabama Gulf Coast to the Florida Panhandle. That's quite
a territory. Can you have all of that? Can you have the whole
thing from the Alabama Gulf Coast to the Florida Panhandle
that whole swath
John C. Dvorak: Aaron Yes. Not that much.
Adam Curry: Alrighty, then. Fantastic. may have
John C. Dvorak: a competing Baron in the area. We'll have to
work that out
Adam Curry: as well for sure. We want to thank everybody who, who
became a night for your incredible perseverance and
sticking with us and sticking with the show and I'm glad you
have something to show off. Now. You They are great at meetups
people love to see the night rings and Dame rings at meetups
bring it along
John C. Dvorak: and they beep if you're near your soulmate
Adam Curry: your twin flame it lights up near your twin flame
okay the I just I only really have one or two more topics the
the bull crap debate over what's happening at the border is just
going insane the CBS This Morning went to an all time low
read and I don't have the full report I wish I had that I just
couldn't find it this morning. This is very reminiscent of we
needed to get into the Iraq War and it wasn't really happening
we needed some more need people to get on board we needed the
country to hate them hate the Iraqis and so a daughter of a
was it Hill Norman I think daughter of a big
John C. Dvorak: this is the yeah the Iraq war with the first one
the first one Yeah. Storm with Bush Bush one Yeah.
Adam Curry: So we needed to get some some buy in and we didn't
have you know weapons of mass destruction stuff we really
needed was something that would that would touch the American
hearts and whenever you want to just think of the children just
just do something for children and you're good to go because
everybody was so instead of well it means that the original
template for this was the Iraqi soldiers came in to the
infirmary award and they took the babies out of the incubators
and threw them on the floor.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, how's it go? Are we do we have that clip
somewhere
Adam Curry: that's worth looking for? Let me see incubator
John C. Dvorak: No I think it would be under that wouldn't
have been under Hill and Knowlton testimony Iraq War
probably under a rock
Adam Curry: I'm gonna see Hill and Knowlton scam AB to very
much
Unknown: be part of our final witness is also using an assumed
name and again we ask
Adam Curry: this was on this was in the Senate was it not?
John C. Dvorak: No, this was actually this was interesting
about this was a special hearing with Senator with the hope with
the regular congress people but it was not in an official
setting. It was some something scam ish about the setting.
Unknown: Our friends in the media to respect the need to for
her to protect what I had forgotten about this whole set
ally call on it. Now you're on to testify.
Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, my name is Nate era,
and I just came out of Kuwait.
My mother and I were in Kuwait on August 2 for a peaceful
summer holiday. My older sister had a baby on July 29. And we
wanted to spend some time in Kuwait with her. I only pray
that none of my 10th grade classmates had a summer vacation
like I did. And there were some time that could be an adult that
could go up quickly. But I still happen to the children have quit
on to my country has changed my life forever. That's to the life
of our Kuwaitis young and old. Your children no more. My
sister, with my five year old nephew, traveled across the
desert to save safety. There is no milk available for vaping
quit. They barely escaped when their car was stuck in the
Desert, desert sand and help came from Saudi Arabia. I stayed
behind and wanted to do something for my country. The
second week after invasion, I volunteered I volunteered at the
dawn hospital with 12 other women who wanted to help as
well. I was the youngest volunteer. Other women were from
20 to 30 years old. While I was there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers
come into the hospital with guns. They took the babies out
of incubators, incubators and let the children today on the
call for
Adam Curry: Academy Award winner ladies and gentlemen Mira
John C. Dvorak: find out whose This is because I'm doing these
radio plays. We need
Adam Curry: to find her. So just so you know, this turned out to
be a total lie that maybe she was the daughter of an
ambassador. I think
John C. Dvorak: she was the daughter of somebody important.
And she was set up it was put into this Currently she's pretty
good actress and they put her in in front of them. Congress to
give this cock and bull story, which was just a complete lie.
It was complete hoax and it was done by Hill and Knowlton. Yes,
Adam Curry: they had dreamed it up. They had given her the
script and it was a total lie. And this is not just hearsay. So
now we get and this is a great script. You can use it for
anything. Let's take some let's take some children and make them
scream climate change. Alright, let's do that. It's fantastic.
Kids worked to great way to go to just if you want to tug at
the heartstrings. And that's what CBS This Morning did.
Unknown: President of the American Academy of Pediatrics
toured to CBP facilities last week, and tell CBS News they are
no place for children, Dr. Sara Goza received these pictures
from a social worker that were drawn by children recently
released from CBP custody, showing them in cages
paints a terrible picture and imagine the effect it's going to
have on these kids for the rest of their life here in the United
States of America. There's should not be
it's a devastating report that by by every measure, we as
adults can debate cages or not cages, but those drawings don't
tell the story. Right about that.
Adam Curry: So have you seen these drawings?
John C. Dvorak: weigh me? Oh, I want to I have not okay, first
of all, no. And I want to point out something they said, which
was their their disclaimer, we can debate cages are not going
to gloss that over. But you can't deny these pictures a
Adam Curry: reason why. Yeah, take a look at the pictures. The
reason why they say that is because it doesn't look like a
cage at all. You see bars you see bars or a fence, which is
what the kids and it's interesting that all of them are
drawn. And this is the this is why I think is total bull crap.
They were drawn from the reverse angle. So not what a child saw.
But and there were also done on on canvas, which was mounted. I
mean, it was not just drawn on a piece of paper, John is Canvas.
Someone went out got canvas and said Now draw something. It
doesn't really matter. It's it the way you spin this. And the
way it's just abuse. It's abuse of children. It's the whole
situation is sad for everybody everywhere. The whole thing is
just it's really really sad.
John C. Dvorak: Now drawings by children who held and boxes or
whatever cages, cages were in this case,
Adam Curry: do you see him? You see these? These by
John C. Dvorak: the way? And this is unsleeved? This is the
CBS website? Yeah. You see it? You see the one here? This one I
doubt I'm looking at there's a bunch of them. But the one I'm
looking at is actually an overhead view. Oh, all in down
on the course. And of course it's with blankets and then
there's this Yeah, it's horrible. It's also bold to say,
Oh, by the way, all ugly. They're drawn by the same
person. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's exactly. It's just abusing children to make a
point. Now, I have one
John C. Dvorak: by the way, this was part of a concerted effort
nationwide because there are protests over here at El Sarita
Plaza again where I went to last time, because that's when they
had the protest released the full report and I have my sign
that I collected. And then apparently now they had another
one it was about children's in cages, children in cages. So
they have one of these protests up in Port Angeles, Washington,
with a bunch of people bitching and moaning about children in
cages and Mimi's there was fairly famous in the town for
being a troublemaker. So she starts because she's the girl
who goes past all these mostly old farts, old Democrat farts.
And she started to ask grilling each one of them. Well, why are
you so concerned about the kids in the Texas holding facilities?
We have homeless around here we have issues ground here that
need addressing immediately and it's local. Why are you
protesting the kids in Texas? And then nobody had a good
answer. And then she didn't have some more mean questions. I
Adam Curry: don't even know. We need Mimi in Texas though. We
need her in Austin. You're gonna need some help.
John C. Dvorak: Well, she was there, you know, wait for the
wedding and she didn't think much of the place. Thanks.
Adam Curry: All right, don't come Don't Don't let the door
hit you on the way out. I have one one final clip. Fareed
Zakaria, the plagiarist from CNN, but he is a globalist that
people listened to and he did a
John C. Dvorak: he's against the Constitution. He wants it
redone.
Adam Curry: Oh my god for context. Yes. Korea
constitution.
John C. Dvorak: Not an over you have a clip. Yeah,
Adam Curry: we might have me mine doesn't matter. What I had
here is his take on the immigration situation at the
border, which as you recall, was a manufactured crisis until it
wasn't and then it was exist and it was kids in cages and which
It isn't. But now it's just the Trump is killing babies throwing
them out of the incubator onto they should do that.
Unknown: I saw Trump coming. Grab the baby from the throne on
the floor. cold floor.
Go. Here's my take, given President Trump's mean spirited
and often bigoted attitudes on immigration,
throwing babies on the floor or cold for
me to say this, but he is right that the United States faces a
crisis with its asylum system. Democrats might hope that the
out of control situation at the southern border undermines
Trump's image among his base as a tough guy who can tackle
immigration. But they should be careful, it could actually work
to the President's advantage since 2014, the flow of asylum
seekers and
Adam Curry: by the way, please take note that he doesn't really
give a crap about the children and the asylum seekers or the
immigrants. He only cares about Trump winning another election.
That's what this whole piece is about.
John C. Dvorak: Here's what it sounds like.
Adam Curry: Democrats pay attention. He's right and he's
gonna win. If you don't, I don't know why more goes
Unknown: into the United States has skyrocketed. Last year
immigration courts received 162,000 asylum claims or 240%
increase from 2014. The result is a staggering backlog with
more than 300,000 Asylum cases pending and the average
immigration case has been pending for more than 700 days.
It's also clear that the rules surrounding asylum are vague,
lacks and being gamed. The initial step for many asylum
seekers is to convince officers that they have a credible fear
of persecution in their home countries, and about 75% meet
that criteria. Some applicants for asylum have suspiciously
similar stories using identical phrases. Many simply use the
system to enter the US and then melt into the shadows or gain a
work permit while their application is pending. Asylum
is meant to be granted to a very small number of people in
extreme circumstances, not as a substitute for the process of
immigration itself. Yet the two have gotten mixed up. As the
Atlantic's David Frum has pointed out, the idea of a right
to asylum is a relatively recent one, dating to the early years
of the Cold War. guilt ridden over the rejection of many
Jewish refugees during World War Two, the UN created a right of
asylum to protect those who are fleeing regimes where they would
be killed or imprisoned because of their identity or beliefs.
This standard has gotten broader and border over the years and
now includes threats of gang warfare and domestic violence.
These looser criteria coupled with the reality that this is a
safe way to enter the US have made the asylum system easy to
abuse. Applications from Hondurans, Guatemalans and
Salvadorans have surged, even though the murder rate in their
countries has been cut in half. More broadly, hundreds of
millions of people around the world who live in poor unstable
regions with threats of violence abound could easily apply for
asylum. Do they all have the legal right to enter the US
through a backdoor, bypassing the normal immigration process?
The Trump administration's approach has been mostly to
toughen up the criteria hire more judges push Mexico to keep
applicants from entering the US. But a much larger fix is needed.
The criteria for asylum need to be rewritten and substantially
tightened. The number of courts and officials dealing with
asylum must be massively expanded. People should not be
able to use asylum claims as a way to work in America. There
needs to be a much greater cooperation with the home
countries of these applicants, rather than insults, threats and
eight freezes. No one fix will do it. But we need the kind of
sensible bipartisan legislation that has resolved past
immigration crisis. Democrats have spent most of their efforts
on this topic assailing the Trump administration for its
heartlessness fine, but that does not address the roots of
this genuine crisis. If things continue to spiral downward, and
America's southern border seems out of control, Trump's tough
rhetoric and hardline stance will become increasingly
attractive to the public. Keep in mind that the rise of
populism in the western world is almost everywhere tied to fears
of growing out of control immigration,
you think they'd notice that but yes, that guy can say that a
little less words. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I agree. But I thought it was important to play
it because he does lay it out pretty well. But there's a
couple things I don't understand, though. So I'm the
IMA the Immigration Nationality Act that recognizes a
John C. Dvorak: asylum is a nationality or naturalization
Adam Curry: to what I say in US Immigration and Nationality Act
actually would be national. Okay. naturalization, yeah.
Well, this is coming from the wiki pedia. So take it with
whatever you probably were accurate. The United States is
obliged to recognize recognize valid claims for asylum since
the under the 1951 convention relating to the status Status of
Refugees and his 1967 protocol, as defined by these agreements,
A refugee is a person who was outside their country of
nationality, coup owning, owing to a fear of persecution, on
account of a protected ground is unable or unwilling to avail
himself of the protection of the state. So it's about the state
being against you.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is like this is so this what we're
seeing here is I wish you had we had one I don't know if we do a
Fletcher Soros. This is a Soros scam. He's orchestrated this to
just embarrass the bar system it in general. Yeah. No, it's
bullcrap. To hold on.
Adam Curry: Let me let me, let me finish the. So it's, I want
to fear persecution, okay. protected grounds include race,
nationality, religion, political opinion, and membership of a
particular social group. But then here's the part that's very
confused. So I don't see how I'm afraid of gangs, domestic
violence qualifies. And those are the people of course, that
don't qualify. But by the time there's a court hearing, they're
gone. They're there and they've melted into the shadows. But
each year, the president United States since a proposal to
Congress for the maximum number of refugees to be admitted into
the country under the asylum law for the upcoming fiscal year.
And this is typically goes unchallenged, I haven't I've
just seen this now. I've not looked into it. But here is for
the last seven years. The totals. So there's a an
allocation. Oh yeah. So there's the ceiling. And then there's
the actual arrivals. In 2013, the ceiling was 70,000, actual
arrivals 58. That remained 70,000 through 2015. And the
numbers all remained not just literally 69,987. I wonder if
these numbers are bogus, actually 2017 ceiling was
110,000, but only 53,000. Were arrivals. For 2018. The ceiling
was 45,000. But only 22,000. Actual arrivals. So they're
they're either there's a lack of people who are actually looking
for asylum. Or they're not processing them fast enough, or
John C. Dvorak: I don't know. But it's sad to find that
because now is your beat. Now I'm going to find out,
Adam Curry: because it seems like we have hundreds of 1000s
of people coming in, but they're not really even hitting the
ceilings and the ceiling seem reasonable. 30,000 70,000 in
some years,
John C. Dvorak: 70,000 is a good number. Yeah. I thought absorb
that quite easily. Yeah. So all right. Well, I have two last
clips. One is a fourth of July clip that we don't hear anymore.
This is for 2015. Generally speaking during many of the
President that pre Trump instead of talking about tanks and the
wreck and the roads and doing all this other stuff. We
generally heard something like this guys didn't know
Unknown: it at the time, but they had several close calls
leading up to the July 4 Holiday potential terror attacks.
Inspired by ISIS. Chief us SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Jim
Shooto has that for us.
US law enforcement sported several terror plots in the last
four weeks, including plots time to the July 4 weekend. US
officials tell CNN Director James Comey says the FBI has
made more than 10 Isis related arrests in the last month some
tied to the holiday. They stopped the stuff that was
trying to come at us for July 4, but that now it's July, seventh
and eighth and they're on to the next thing. The foiled attacks
included targets coast to coast and were unsophisticated, with
plans that included guns, knives and other weapons. Fitting ISIS
is public calls to supporters to attack in any way possible.
Investigators believe that ISIS members overseas enabled the
plots recruiting and encouraging Americans to carry out attacks
on US soil, even selecting possible targets. Comey calls it
crowdsourcing terrorists Senator James rich telling CNN Wednesday
that time was critical.
Some were quite imminent, actually within days. Within
days, there was one of course there was even one that was
within hours or
minutes. The foil plots come as the FBI continues to warn that
terrorist suspects have gone dark in cyberspace, increasingly
communicating through encrypted messaging that is widely
available, but impossible for the intelligence community to
monitor. The life force weekend may have passed. But US
officials tell CNN that the risk of terror attacks remains very
high.
Based on very recent past trends. ISIS has been willing to
and able to push out information to Americans and a small number
have at least been willing to try to act based on that.
Are Jim Shooter reporting there from Washington for us?
Adam Curry: You know, you are so right. And I was just looking
through the archives. Back to 2014 1516 17. No, not 1713.
Every single year Fourth of July. Oh, ISIS terror attack.
They're gonna get us they hate our freedom. They hit our
liberty. So Right. And what happened this year? We don't
have that anymore. There's no terror. We're done.
John C. Dvorak: Trump changed the narrative.
Adam Curry: Just shows you how much bull crap it really is.
John C. Dvorak: That's bull crap, bull crap. I have one last
clip to finish the show unless you have one because this is a
show closer.
Adam Curry: Yeah, no. Will school close the show? Okay.
John C. Dvorak: It also brings us back up to speed on on
vegetarian ism meat burgers, and it's about and we'd like to do
food stuff on the show. Yes, and this is a little rundown on the
Impossible Burger.
Unknown: Many Americans will spend the Fourth of July
barbecuing, but for a growing number traditional meat will not
be on the menu. In today's morning rounds. We look at the
rising popularity and health effects of plant based meat
Impossible Burger and beyond burger have exploded in
popularity. The two alternative meat brands are available in
more than 40,000 restaurants now and grocery stores combined. Dr.
Tara Newell is at the table we should note Tara comes from a
house divided area husband eat meat eats meat are high. Yeah,
like your husband. So what's in this in this meat?
Well, this is so interesting because actually these companies
are not necessarily catering to people like me who are
vegetarian but to my husband those who eat meat there may
want us they do and so they're mimicking the taste and the
texture, the chew the sizzle and even the bleed. So yes, we're
which is pretty amazing. So when you compare the beyond burger
for example, and Impossible Burger, they're relatively
similar but they differ in kind of the key components of their
protein. So beyond burger uses a P based protein and possibly
uses a soy based protein and then they both have mixtures of
some oils in them either canola oil or coconut oil. And
interestingly also you find the beyond burger in the meat
section. They're specifically putting it there because they
want to capture that market. Can you
capture the taste or maybe you're not supposed to really
capture the taste? Let it be what it is
one of the differences between the two is Impossible Burger
claims that they have found the reason that meat tastes like
meat and that's something called heme. So he has an iron
containing molecule. You may have heard of hemoglobin or
myoglobin, all animals and plants have it and they
basically have extracted this from the roots of soy plants and
then grown that in yeast. Taken that heme and put it in their
burger and they're saying that that mimics the flavor the aroma
the taste one about not impossible.
Okay, so are they healthy? Plant based burgers, are they healthy
or healthier? Right
so that's really a great question
Adam Curry: good one show closer for sure.
John C. Dvorak: I'll be here all the week.
Adam Curry: Well done. We're having bison burgers tonight
before we watch TV.
John C. Dvorak: Those are delicious. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's what you want people to soy. Yay. Well, Happy
Independence Day John.
John C. Dvorak: Happy Independence Day to you and all
the listeners who care about Independence Day Of course the
Canadians don't and why would the Europeans they don't care.
But we do we do
Adam Curry: we care. Happy Canadian day. A couple days
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boruch.org/and A until then. Adios mobos and such
Unknown: Howdy y'all, it's me here again with a quick reminder
about wriggling for the Fourth of July. You see a lot of people
are proud to be Americans. That's wrong. Tomorrow the
Orange Man was gone. I'd be happy with my life after the
communist is when everything will be just fine. Hit notches
with Chrome bars. And let's see man milkshakes. Because the bag
is an Asian fascist. It's not like Nazis can't be gay proud to
be an antique Oban Roger growing in me and I'll gladly throw in
there route stop the orange
revenant for
Remember folks, America ships and it's never too late to start
punching Nazis violently assaulting Republicans centrists
journalists and anyone who made Hillary lose by voting for Jill
Stein.
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that's pretty much their thesis us needed all the time or choice
live that manholes glory for half a billion or 2 billion like
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Adam Curry: you know, but he was
Unknown: he was the winner of hammering and hammering and
hammering
Adam Curry: Well that sounds painful hit the buzzer
John C. Dvorak: it's all good. So I mentioned this to me show
no that's that he always says that shit eating grin okay, we
can all go home MoPhO
Unknown: boruch.org/and a
thank you for bringing us both sides. The