Adam Curry: To through the two lips puppet, Adam curry, John C.
Devorah. Sunday June 2 2019. This is your award winning keep
on nation media assassination episode 1143.
Unknown: This is no agenda, saving football
Adam Curry: on the American pitch and broadcasting live from
the frontier of Austin, Texas capital. The drone star stated
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
John C. Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley I'm John
C. Dvorak skill
Adam Curry: tests my response time or something? wasn't
exactly you have nothing else to say. That's it done. Just yeah.
Yeah. Okay, good.
John C. Dvorak: I had a million things. It was possible. And I
just said, you know, it's too complicated. Okay.
Adam Curry: Well, I do have an idea. It's a big one. It's a
money making one we could even use it as our exit strategy just
to start the show off with that. I can bring football soccer to
American screens in a commercially viable way.
John C. Dvorak: By not running it at all.
Adam Curry: No. I mean, this is the biggest problem why in in
our biggest problem
John C. Dvorak: with soccer in the United States to do it,
there's two biggest problems the biggest problem is that stinks.
As a game and Americans don't like playing that one. Unless
you're a girl.
Adam Curry: That's That's your opinion. Okay. prob The real
problem is of course because there are no commercial breaks
it's very difficult for television networks to make
money off of the games.
John C. Dvorak: Well, they must make money in Mexico they must
make money in England they must make money in down the
continent.
Adam Curry: No, actually, they Yeah, they do but there's more
people who want to watch but they also they also have buying
more trucks they also have different Broadcast Systems
different ways of making money but now finally, after having
seen the highlights of the Champions League, the big game
in in in the champions of Europe and Liverpool beating out
Tottenham I find God beat Tottenham I think it was two nil
even it was a crazy game was crazy as game but there is now a
way to monetize I have a little clip which we want I'll just
play it they won't really explain immediately but at a
certain points something happened on the field is that
we had a good old fashioned streaker from one side of the
pitch from one goal to the other Kinsey will Wollensky who you
must do a quick Bing search on because she was well worth
watching running from one goal to the other. Approximately
three point definitely get everybody American's attention.
$3.97 million pounds worth of advertising for the company she
wore on her shirt, which was the tie heard on the show? Well,
whatever was left of the shirt that she had on,
John C. Dvorak: what was your name again, McKinsey,
Adam Curry: it's Kinsey k i n s e y will Lansky. And this she
had a t shirt on for Vitaly uncensored, estimated just under
4 million pounds worth of advertising value. This is the
way to go. Just once again, no one knows when it's going to
happen. We don't know what she or he is going to look like. But
everyone knows. Once again, someone's going to St pretty
much but naked from one end to the other. We're going to see
their advertisement, we take one advertiser and one advertiser
only. We could expand it to two, one for each half of the game
later on. This is finally a way to monetize and the crowd loves
it. Have you seen her? Yeah, she's beautiful. Yes. This is a
money making opportunity.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't know who talked her into doing
this, but I just got her name right.
Adam Curry: What do you mean? She has a sponsor? She's an
Instagram influencer, gained a million followers after this
stunt. But look at the t shirt. The T shirt was a sponsored t
shirt. Now she didn't get 4 million pounds for it. But she
got paid for it. And the value is unbelievable. Well, you're
not on board with my idea. She
John C. Dvorak: actually broke she actually. She actually
crashed my browser.
Adam Curry: She crashed a lot of old men's browsers believe me.
There you go. Anyway, I thought I thought it was an interesting
way to do it.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Yeah, you should get you should move back
to Europe and become a member of the FIFO whatever the hell that
group is. FIFA Lysa
Adam Curry: even I'm not corrupt enough to join FIFA. It's just
not gonna happen. Anyway, that was my my big idea. Now on to
the news. done there is a little news. Okay. Well, you got I got
nothing. No, I do. I
John C. Dvorak: got a bunch of Assange stuff, which is kind of
interesting.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think Did I have anything Assange? Yes, I
did. I have I have his lawyer talking to the BBC about his
health. Do you want to hear that you
John C. Dvorak: want to go with that? And then we'll go to my
stuff.
Adam Curry: I this was actually this was posted on the the Vimeo
service by Pamela Anderson, which is why I got a lot of
attention. His lawyer speaking with the BBC about his mental
health. Obviously,
Unknown: I cannot reveal the patient, Doctor confidentiality
protected diagnosis, but we could see that Mr. ASOs showed
all symptoms that are typical for prolonged exposure to
psychological torture. Now, recently, my understanding is he
have been transferred to the health care units of the
Belmarsh prison that apparently, there should be some, as I
understand dramatic weight loss, and also a grave deterioration
of his capacity to concentrate and actually engage with the
lawyers.
Adam Curry: How long has it been since they first carried him
out? Now, this kind of also makes me wonder, did they carry
him out? Because he couldn't walk because of his already
dramatic weight loss, which it didn't appear to be his face
seem kind of full? Did he lose all this weight in just what a
month's time? How long? Has it been six weeks?
John C. Dvorak: I don't know the whole thing seems really
strange. But I mean, I'm wondering how much of debt well,
let's just play these clips.
Adam Curry: I love them. I have some more on this, if you want
to hear this a little more,
John C. Dvorak: very terrible to whoever she should have done,
should clean up that audio a little bit.
Adam Curry: That's the BBC man
Unknown: grave deterioration of his capacity to concentrate and
actually engage with the lawyers for trial or not, it seems that
he was not able to stand trial this week. Because of this
medical incapacity to be present in court. It doesn't surprise me
that this is the case. The psychiatrist that accompanies my
mission said his current state is critical. He urgently needs
access to a psychiatrist that is not part of the prison service,
someone that he can fully trust. If he doesn't get that, and if
the pressure on him is not alleviated rapidly, we will have
to expect a rapid and serious deterioration of his state of
health.
What does he say now to you?
What was he saying to you when you went to visit him,
she is extremely afraid of what happened to him. He said I
cannot count on the judicial institutions in this country. To
be fair, I cannot count on fair to disrupt proceedings in
Sweden. Everything is biased against me. I have no voice. And
I don't have enough time to prepare my defense in any of
these proceedings. The problem for Julian Assange is that he
has multiple, complex legal proceedings that are expanding
as we speak. to various jurisdictions, annual charges
are being added all the time. And he has no chance to prepare
a proper defense for these cases.
John C. Dvorak: Pretty much similar cars, but they're
actually audible. Let's start with Assange being tortured
Democracy Now.
Unknown: Joined by Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on
torture, coup, welcome to Democracy Now. Why don't you
begin by telling us the results of your report and
describing your visit to
see Julian Assange?
Adam Curry: Wait, is this gonna be the same damn guy?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, but you can hear him. Yeah,
Adam Curry: we got you. We heard you the first five times. Are
you still pissed about your clips that sucked last time? Is
that why you're so passively aggressive, of course, stop.
Belmarsh prison in London.
Unknown: No, thank you, me. Well, I did.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. The bucket sounds well done.
Unknown: Mr. Assange in prison, Belmarsh prison on the ninth of
May in the company of two medical experts. And my primary
concerns really are that I'm extremely worried about his
current state of health, which was alarming already when I
visited him, and which seems to have deteriorated. A rapidly
since then, to the point where he's no longer even able to
stand trial and to participate in court hearings. I must say
that I'm appalled at the sustained and concerted abuse
that this man has been exposed to at the hands of several
democratic states over a period of almost a decade. And I'm
gravely concerned about the prospects of a possible
extradition to the United States. As I have indicated this
morning in Geneva, I worried that he would be exposed to a
politicized show trial, in violation of his of his human
rights.
John C. Dvorak: Violate violation of human rights. Okay.
Well, hold on, hold on isn't getting suspicious. Yeah. It's
so um, there's going to be this argument. First of all, a piece
came out this morning saying, Well, why is it the CIA and the
government going after him about his revelations about vault
seven? Right, which supposedly gave up all the CIA techniques?
Adam Curry: Well, not just the techniques, not just techniques,
but tools as well. I understand tools, tools, tools, and
techniques and techniques, many sources and methods.
John C. Dvorak: And then the article goes on to say, I don't
we don't get to swear they're not going after him for that.
But they're gonna go after him on espionage. And then in the
same sense, they say, which is going to be very hard to prove.
Which brings us back to your thesis that this may all the
bullshit.
Adam Curry: Well, now I'm thinking, the best solution for
everybody in it mainly for intelligence services. And I'm
looking at you five eyes is to have Assange die. That's the
best way WikiLeaks is still WikiLeaks. They can, it can
still be controlled by whoever. And I'm not saying Assange would
actually be dead. But what a what a perfect, perfect setup
right now. The sick is not going well. We haven't seen him. He's
gone. Oops, sorry. Throw a casket in the ground.
John C. Dvorak: And possible. I don't know if he'd go along with
it. But it'd be better than what he's doing.
Adam Curry: Assange, Assange is not important anymore. Now, it's
really about WikiLeaks, which I mean, you tell me remember when
they were literally D platforming wikileaks.org from
the internet by hijacking. The FBI got the DNS, they were
jamming DNS everywhere, then you had tons of mirrors, everyone's
registering a different WikiLeaks domain to help spread
the load. And now it's I don't see any of that just
wikileaks.org. That works fine. They're on Twitter.
Unknown: They're on Twitter.
John C. Dvorak: Do you think they're being co opted?
Adam Curry: Yeah, I would say by us.
John C. Dvorak: So let's take a look at the I'm not going to
argue against that. Let's take a look at this guy goes on his
Neil's character who's a un torture guy, and he's supposed
to be able to go in and say you're torturing somebody stop
it.
Adam Curry: I want that job. Good job, great job.
John C. Dvorak: But before getting into his other clips I
want to play because there's an implication that Well, you can't
get a fair trial because there's the jury pool has been tampered
with. I think our left think of a lot of based on our lousy
results from the last newsletter, which were where we
discussed Julian Assange, I would guess that a good portion
of our audience, all thing Julian Assange as a trader and
should be hung,
Adam Curry: or? I don't know about that.
John C. Dvorak: It doesn't take a lot. Anyway, so let's listen
about you just to get a feeling for what the public might
believe is going on. I have some clips from the view.
Trying to decide which ones to Okay, well, let's go with this
one, which is a gem. This is a this is Whoopi introducing the
the arrest of Julian Assange when it happened and enjoy Bay
har jumping in. And Joy brings us back up to speed on exactly
what the situation is in the society and all around.
Unknown: Julian Assange has been arrested. He faces charges in
the US. Right.
John C. Dvorak: She says Julian Assange
Adam Curry: with a weight with a name like Whoopi. What do you
expect? Julian Assange
Unknown: has been? He faces charges in the US for conspiring
to hack into a classified government computer. WikiLeaks
tweeted that he's won dozens of journalism awards, nominated for
a Nobel Prize every year since 2010. And this is just a
campaign by the CIA to delegitimize and dehumanize you,
humanize it It was almost a dehumidifier.
Adam Curry: That's exactly what they're doing.
Unknown: So, you know, so So what do you think it is? What
Why did he break the law? Was it a problem, but
remember what he did originally? Yeah, tell well, he he hacked
into the Democrats, computers. Oh, and helped Trump get elected
basically by exposing Podesta's emails and then, and then call
me when after Hillary and remember that. That's why
trolling, basically.
Adam Curry: Like, I didn't listen to that last vid again.
What did Assange do?
Unknown: Computers and yes, he he hacked into Wow, the
Democrats, computers.
Adam Curry: Two years of Muller report, and this is what you
took away from it joy,
Unknown: and helped Trump get elected basically by exposing
Podesta's email. And then call me went after Hillary and
remember that
since 2010, wow.
Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, my goodness. Well, she she does not
pass the Mueller test. So So now Assange hacked into the it's no
longer the Russians. It wasn't the internet research agency. It
was Assange,
John C. Dvorak: wells. Coordinates. But that's another
clip Oh, view on Assange. We're working with the Russians.
Adam Curry: Okay.
Unknown: Yeah, there is a different Sunni and being a
whistleblower, and being a straight up hacker and what we
found out with with Assange is he has conspired with Russia to
meddle in our 2016 election. So it was here if that is not
committing a crime yesterday. I don't know what that I failed to
say that under the Freedom of speech, I can't get again.
Here's what I will tell you. I will.
John C. Dvorak: Says that whoopee says oh, so it was him.
Like, like, metal?
Adam Curry: Oh, now we know. Well, let's let's just review
for a second. I don't understand. I know they have
producers on the show. I know that they're constantly talking
into their ears. I know a lot of people watch this show and take
what these women say is gospel. This is pretty sad. To
everything she just said is wrong. Everything.
John C. Dvorak: Everything. They both said those are two
different women.
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, they all said they've wronged
John C. Dvorak: you. So let's see what McCain has to say
actually prosecuted to
Unknown: the politics of this have always been a completely
hypocritical on both sides. Eric Holder under Obama decided
against pursuing persecution of Assange of concerns that
WikiLeaks was, quote a journalistic organization that
would raise First Amendment issues. Chelsea Manning was
granted clemency Chelsea Manning in 2010 released 750,000
classified and sensitive military documents that put our
national security at lift under the Obama administration. She
was given clemency is this something that a lot of people
who would have put national security at first I put myself
in that category had been warning about and warning about
and warning about and the only time that Democrats started
caring is when it started affecting them politically and
Hillary Clinton's emails were released and John Podesta emails
were released just
happened with him that's my so here's here's the problem Hal
started Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Well, there you go be Rochdale gets a round of
applause. We don't
Adam Curry: even need to extradite him he's guilty done
and rotten in hell already. Doesn't matter. Just bring a
piece of hair. There. We got to scalp girls. That's, that's
pretty low. pretty low.
John C. Dvorak: So let's go back to our UN guy.
Adam Curry: This is what's his name again?
John C. Dvorak: Niels Niels something. I got to I got first
of all, let's have a short clip did that kind of reflects what
the view people think? In other words, the jury pool has been
poisoned to the point where it's even if the judge level play
this little clip here Neil's on not guilty plea
Unknown: the same day he was dragged out the embassy after
more than six years. And the same day he was pulled into a UK
court. He was given reportedly less than 15 minutes for this
defense lawyer to prepare a defense and then in a very short
hearing was convicted for a violation and and and the judge
even insulted him as being a narcissist who cannot get beyond
himself. Now as a lawyer, having worked at court myself, I cannot
imagine how a judge could come to such a conclusion. When the
defendant didn't say anything else in that hearing, then I
plead not guilty.
Adam Curry: No, that's a kangaroo court then obviously.
Yes,
John C. Dvorak: thank Well, no,
Adam Curry: of course we do have certain stuff. entered here in
the United States, by give you the example is brought to us by
former CIA chief John Brennan people are innocent until
Unknown: alleged to be involved in some type of criminal
activity.
Adam Curry: Okay, just so you know, it's like we're very
similar to the International Criminal Court at this point.
John C. Dvorak: Like, let's play the last clip I have Neil's
talking about getting a fair trial. In the United States,
yes, I'm currently logged Wait, stop, stop. I, I, I'm wondering
what this I write cues for myself on these clips. And the
queue in this case was asked, and I forgot what it was before
I just threw the clip out. Amy has just asked him, What was the
potential for getting a fair trial in the United States?
Okay. Yes,
Unknown: I'm gravely gravely concerned, I'm almost certain
that you will not get a safe a fair trial and a safe treatment
in the United States. The public prejudice, including on the part
of former and current officials in the United States has is so
predominant for for several years now. And, and so that it
would be almost impossible to have an impartial court hearing
where he could actually be heard of his concerns. When we see the
charges that have been added. Now recently, under the
Espionage Act, most of them really relate to activities that
any investigative journalist is conducting every day. So it's
really a reason for concern for press freedom around the world,
then we are also with the United States, unfortunately, dealing
with a country that in the last 20 years has not shown to be
consistent in enforcing the prohibition of torture with its
own officials, we can speak to the Senate committee report that
has not led to a single prosecution contrary to their
obligations under the Convention Against Torture. Obviously, the
Collateral Murder video has not led to any prosecutions either.
The only person that is being prosecuted here seems to be the
one that actually exposed all of these.
Adam Curry: That's that's our culture, bro. That's, that's
what our elites always do. Daniel Ellsberg with the
Pentagon Papers room Espionage Act. course that's that's what
we do. We are horrible that way.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, it tends to work a little bit. I
did get MacGyver, I dug up the old McGovern clip. Ray McGovern,
the ex CIA guy talking about and I left the beginning of this
clip in it, it has something to do with this in an obscure way,
but mostly to do with what the view said about Russia hacking.
Adam Curry: No, Julian Assange hacking, not Russia, Julian
Assange, sorry, Julian
John C. Dvorak: Assange hack the DNC. Yeah. McGovern makes an
interesting claim. This was done in middle of 2018. And he says,
he says, he says, we don't hear about hacking anymore. In 2018,
I think he was in a moment in time where that might have been
true, but it's not true anymore. And this particular information
that he goes on and on about which we've discussed on the
show a lot, which is that it couldn't have been hacked, it
had to be a thumb drive. And that which brings in all kinds
of other parts.
Adam Curry: Well, I do have some new information regarding that.
But let's listen to your let's listen to the clip for the
John C. Dvorak: government you can do then you can update us.
Unknown: You don't hear anything about Russian hacking anymore.
Right. That's interesting. That was a big deal. Well, suffice it
to say that with the help of our two former Technical Directors
of NSA, Bill Binney, and Ed Loomis, we've been able to prove
that the celebrated, quote, hack and quote, of five July 2016,
which was blamed on the Russians, and the Russians
alleged to have given it to WikiLeaks. And that, of course,
was the DNC emails that this was not a hack. By the Russians, no,
not by Russians. It's not a hack by anybody know, how does that
work? Think of the internet as a pipe. Okay. Now we know what the
capacity of the net was July, early July of 2016. The
information said to have been hacked, could not have been
hacked. Because it was downloaded onto a thumb drive at
a speed three times what the Internet pipe would have been
able to tolerate given its capacity. This is physics. Okay.
Now, what rate why's that that it was downloaded? Well, I
happened to be exactly the same rate as the thumb drive can
tolerate. So less thing here is that we know and have proven
from forensics forensics that the FBI did not do. Okay, that
the celebrated hack on the fifth of July was not by Russia by
anybody else. It was a download, you can say it was a copy onto a
thumb drive, because the speed at which it was copied exceeded
the capacity of this net by three times.
Adam Curry: Here's the problem. But I do have information I want
to talk about, here's the problem I have with this. And
we've repeated this and I want to believe this. I'd like to
know exactly what log they're looking at, for if it was
transferred through. So they have a server log somewhere,
which shows a transfer, is that correct? And who has this? And
how do we get this server log in the first place?
John C. Dvorak: I don't know. Okay. Nobody ever seems to
explain it.
Adam Curry: Well, this is why I don't like it. If, if you have
if you have access to logs that can show you the speed at which
it was download, then you also know what port and what protocol
was used. I never hear anyone talk about it, except for
because of the speed. It had to be a USB drive. Don't say thumb
drive, that's kind of like 1998 I'll say USB drive. However,
I've got information,
Unknown: man,
Adam Curry: new shit has come to light. In lacking of any
evidence that it was an actual thumb drive, I now have pretty
much proof that it would have worked and could have easily
been a powerline connector. could have been anything. And
I'm a little tired of people repeating this. It had to be it
had to be it had to be it without showing me the log. I
know what logs look like, I know where the logs come from on a
was it a Unix server? Was it a Windows machine? Was it a
Windows 2000 server?
John C. Dvorak: Do you find it difficult to believe that one of
the security blogs doesn't have all this information?
Adam Curry: I have not seen it. Of course now we have the troll
room posting all kinds of possible articles which I'm
happy about. Because we need to know it's well you said you had
new information. That's what I just said it could have been a
powerline adapter that what you
John C. Dvorak: are just throwing it okay. That's not new
information. That's supposition. Yes, of course it is. And of
course, you brought the power line thing and because you
because this is a theme
Adam Curry: when you need to explain my jokes. It's already
bad.
John C. Dvorak: Sorry. I'm thinking what is he got? What is
where's he going with this? And then it's just a joke ridiculing
the you powerline technology you by the way, I mean, I never
thought about it. But if you think about having a power line
connection,
Adam Curry: oh, there's all kinds of possibilities. You
just, all you have to do is just drop one in somewhere. Or you
have to press two buttons at the same time to pair them.
John C. Dvorak: No, you don't. It's not at the same time yet.
They have to be near each other. You push one button and it
blinks and then you push the other button and then you're
there pair you have to be you have to push some buttons,
Adam Curry: you have to know you have to have access to both of
them within the same timeframe. Yes, okay. So it's not a great
way anyway.
John C. Dvorak: That's not true. Here's the way it would work.
You take you have your your master and your slave in there.
You're sitting in the office and you put them into plugs and you
pair him and then you take the slave and then you stick it over
someplace else. Now you can put it anywhere you want.
Adam Curry: Okay, it doesn't send out a blip through the
through the pot. Why am I even asking you this? I don't want to
know anymore. It's fine. It was a it was a thumb drive.
John C. Dvorak: I'm going with the Power Line ID how
Adam Curry: do people get these transfer times I see it in the
troll room. Hey, there was no log transfer time is truth. What
do you get transferred time from just magic appeared out of the
sky. I'm sorry, I'm not I'm not buying it anymore. Until someone
can show me where this information comes from. And this
is this is the Binney group. So I hold them in pretty high
regard. They should do more than just say
John C. Dvorak: I will look into it. Okay.
Adam Curry: You have a second clip from McGovern.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is just as I don't even know what
this clip is. But it's I put it here for I got three clips
apparently. Plate McGovern. No, I got to your right play this
second clip. Sorry, this motive
Unknown: and Scott information. Bill Binney is still working on
this. That shows that Guccifer 2.0, who is said to be working
for the Russians are very much involved in this. That it's a
fraud. That everything is he's been saying it is demonstrably
suspect because of various physical principles. Now, why is
that? Why is that of importance? Well, let me just tell you that
we have a new nuclear posture statement revealed on Friday.
And the the really new aspect of this says that we can, we can go
to war with nuclear weapons or these small nuclear weapons on
the on the occasion of any kind of enemy Act, including cyber
attack. Whoa. So 80% of the American people, according to my
informal poll, including my family, believe that everybody
knows the Russians hacked into our election. Everybody knows
that just like everybody knew that their weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq. It's not true that they did. It's
demonstrably untrue. But, you know, the next time this comes
around next time, there's a cyber attack by the Russians or
anybody else, so called, this was still on the record. Well,
they hacked into our election, they tried to undermine a
democracy in 2016. And they're doing it again.
Adam Curry: Yeah, and this is anything. McGovern says anything
we say, once the information is out there, and I'm really I'm
demure and disappointed and somewhat depressed by the view
clips. That is now what people will believe Julian Assange
hacked into our elections, hacked into the Hillary Clinton
just into Clinton don't have to say anything, just hack into
Clinton and published everything that's the state no one else
will give a shit no one else will remember anything. There's
no more truth to be had. It's over and done with and Assange
will never stand trial. Dead Man Walking sorry. They're gonna
kill him. They got it. The message is out. They got
everything they need in place often continue with WikiLeaks.
Great, great co OPT. Well, that's what you do.
John C. Dvorak: You'd go up it and it's been done. I don't know
how they're going to deal with the size of if he does get
killed.
Adam Curry: an urn is not that big. I mean, you can kind of put
it anywhere. But if
John C. Dvorak: you've got the people at they you going off
like they did with this unbelievable bullcrap. Yeah.
Yeah. Nobody will care. To be a lot of good riddance or all
this. I mean that the other thing I don't I didn't bitch
about so much in the last show. But I continually bitch about is
the SEC debt. Assange isn't an American, but yet they call him
a traitor.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, did they call him that on the view? I
didn't hear that the T word.
John C. Dvorak: Come on. No, she just wanted to rot in hell. But
they didn't come down to you. But they could just if they did,
it wouldn't it would have fit right in. Right. But others have
I mean, a lot of our senators, a lot of Republican senators have
called him a traitor. I think even Trump may have I'm not
sure. But he's been called a traitor, on and on and on. And
it's just beyond me, because how can you be a traitor? If you're
not even a citizen? No.
Adam Curry: You can be an enemy of the state. Well, that's yeah,
that's about it.
John C. Dvorak: A lot of people can be enemy of the state.
Adam Curry: I'd like to talk for a moment about something. I
think it happened on show day. I believe it happened on Thursday.
The President threatened Mexico with 5% tariffs on all goods
from Mexico as of June 10, if they don't slow down the wave of
people seeking entry into the United States without proper
paperwork to my new term for illegal. And I have to say two
well, two things first, I think it's a brilliant strategy. This
makes makes so much sense. I think Mexico responded quite
quickly. But also, and I haven't heard anyone mentioned this. Not
even on Fox where I expected it to pop up. This will be the way
he turns around and says it you go and Mexico's paying for the
wall. No one has said this yet. It's so it's so obvious to me.
Like oh, what is it $300 billion a year.
John C. Dvorak: So you get jack it up to you? Yeah,
Adam Curry: every month 5% every month? Yeah, it's fantastic.
There'll be they'll be paying for the wall. I mean, I don't
know how he's gonna turn around and sell it but you know he's
gonna He's no he's going to have to say that this perfect.
John C. Dvorak: But it'd be stunning if he doesn't did you
get
Adam Curry: was it now? I guess you couldn't talk about this
with Horowitz since that happened after Tuesday's show, I
guess or did it Don't don't remember.
John C. Dvorak: No, it was no. exactly it was that after the
show. So
Adam Curry: what do you think about this about the about the
tariffs?
John C. Dvorak: Well, I hadn't really given it a lot of thought
I didn't think it was a bad idea if it works, because all the the
idea is that you're going to ding them until they put their
foot down. And if you remember, if you remember, let's see,
probably during the Obama administration, we this was
discussed, because it was discussed a lot by the right
wingers. Oh, no, as I thought it was, I don't know what side it
would political side discusses, but you will, you'll remember
she was I bring it up. Mexico, supposedly. So what you know,
we're dealing so harshly with the Mexicans or little harshly
with the Mexicans. And everyone's saying, the counter
was You're being too harsh with these Mexicans as they're coming
over the border. Well, Mexico, on their southern border,
anybody comes over, they beat the crap out of him, send them
back. They're very harsh. They grab them and they deport them,
they do not let anyone come up to southern border, and they
made a big stink about it all. This was a big point of
discussion, probably in 2014 2012, maybe. And it kept
going on what happened to that policy, or the Mexicans all of a
sudden are saying, Well, were you were you coming over? We're
gonna beat the crap out of you if you're gonna stay here and
this and No, no, we're going to the United States. Okay. Just
take this. Off the coast, I
Adam Curry: presume once the Soros dollars came through, like
a friend of George, let him get a credit card, a credit card,
Visa Debit Card friend to George. Yeah, off you go. No
problem.
John C. Dvorak: So with that in mind, you'd think that something
that the Mexicans obviously have a little more control over the
situation. And it is Mexico, the way it's shaped is kind of, you
know, like a funnel. And so it's not that easy. You know, you
just, you don't have a big border like we do with the
United States. You have a very small border down the south. And
it's very easy to control and that's all I think I think the
Mexicans can do it if they want you because they've done it
before.
Adam Curry: Well, it's it seemed that that hours after this, this
threat went out then the Mexican say, Whoa, let's send some
people over Friday. Let's sit down and have a little chat we
can work something out. And of course, we see all kinds of
people gearing up to get the courts and and see legal and you
can't do it. He has no power. And I am so done with all of
this. I'm looking at other news around the world. Everything
here is is a stupid sideshow of outrage and people are addicted
to emotion. It's sad. Yeah, it's very sad. It's and it's not
funny. Isn't There's nothing interesting.
John C. Dvorak: Exciting. While I do it, there's funny moments.
For example, for today, I've got to Trump genius I saw I think is
really a funny moment.
Adam Curry: Oh, is this something that maybe I can use
for indiv? Show? Let's see. I'm an extremely stable genius. And
it's not a new one?
John C. Dvorak: No, of course it's not. I bet I've been
itching to get it. Well, we can talk about
Adam Curry: No, let me grab the wheel here. Let's talk about
some of our 2020 candidates just to get it out of the way. And
then we have a lot of other things to talk about. Yeah,
there has been some there's been some new information. We're
learning things about people. First of all, yes.
John C. Dvorak: i Okay. I have some news that I haven't put it
on the on the page yet, but I have some new thoughts on this.
And I you should yeah. Okay. Tell me what you got. Okay.
Adam Curry: Well, I'd say the number two candidate is Hillary
Clinton, we still think she will. According to the cosmic
weenie, she will reenter and she'll fly right in,
John C. Dvorak: and no evidence is she won't.
Adam Curry: And, of course, this came across
Unknown: our desk. So get this folks Hillary Clinton is set to
serve as a keynote speaker at the 2019 Cyber Defense summit.
The cybersecurity company fire i tweeting this flyer out and say
the event is designed to inform executives about how to, quote,
mitigate, detect and respond to cyber attacks. But is the
political figure who really came to define mismanagement of
cybersecurity the right person to keynote a conference on cyber
security bones Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'd say she's the perfect one to keynote that and
it's interesting that it's fire i since they were deep they've
always dealt with CrowdStrike being being I think yeah, and
fire our fire I really the pew pew guys, are they the ones with
the with the map view?
John C. Dvorak: I don't know I can't keep track of these
boneheads leave
Adam Curry: so the troll room knows the troll room knows Is it
is it the fire guys who have the the Map View I think it is.
Yeah. Yes. We hear you with your pew pew. Now that was North
Shore it is if you're the Crips. Let's see I do have the pew pew
here. There we go. I think that'll be a big hit for her.
I'm sure she's getting a lot of money for it. And I think people
will enjoy that she'll have some funny one liners. It'll be a
pretty good show.
John C. Dvorak: I wonder how much he's getting? This is
really. I'm completely I'd love to find out.
Adam Curry: Oh, you got to have a good payday if you're going to
do something like this. I mean, it's it's self deprecating,
which is funny. That it's totally getting the awareness. I
mean, it's,
John C. Dvorak: she'll play it to she'll play the self. Yeah,
getting part. Yeah. So you got
Adam Curry: to get a payday for that. It's gotta be good. These
guys. Are they public? Not fire. I think fire is public.
John C. Dvorak: Well, talking about candidates, there's
something I was brought up on.
Adam Curry: Yes, news, public company. So give them give her
some stock. Give her some options. It's beautiful.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that would work. But give me some
stock. Okay. That's how they get rich in Silicon Valley.
Adam Curry: Yes, stock options.
John C. Dvorak: So does. It was kind of brought up on the news
hour. And when they brought it up, I didn't think too much
about I do have a clip, which talks about one aspect of we'll
play that. But let me just tell you what the theory is. There's
a bunch of Democrats. And David Brooks himself says, I don't
know why these people are even running. Because it's the I
don't know what to think. And this is crazy. But there's a
bunch of Democrats and no one has noticed this. I tried to
talk about a little bit but as you hear from the clip that I'm
gonna play, it doesn't go anywhere. But there are certain
candidates they are single issue. This is very old
fashioned type of politics. Single Issue candidates.
Gillibrand is for women's rights and pro abortion. That's it.
Eric Swalwell from California guns, gun control, gun control
and more gun control. Inslee, the bonehead governor from
Washington State climate change, and only climate change. He's
running on a climate change platform. I don't know that I
can isolate more of these. Well, now I'm Yes.
Adam Curry: What was gonna say is that I can answer the
question why these people are running, they're not running
because they believe they have any chance they're running to
raise their profile. So they are preparing for the next step. It
could be a Senate Senate seat could be
John C. Dvorak: No, I totally agree with that. And I think
even I mentioned and maybe in that new and cosmic weenie piece
that Tulsi Gabbard, I think is just after that idiot, senator
from Hawaii, Mazie, whatever her name is
Adam Curry: Mazie Hirono. Yeah, Mazie Hirono.
John C. Dvorak: She's hopeless. But I think the single issue
thinks they it's not as though there's any crossover, which
makes me wonder if they're test marketing, the issue for ideas.
Okay, run these different candidates out there. And you
see which one gets traction with whatever issue they're running
on. And then you incorporate that issue into the platform.
And none of these candidates, of course, have a chance. And I
think that's pretty obvious. When they talked about done.
News Hour. They talked about Gillibrand a bit, just to hear
play. This clip does MARK SHIELDS on abortion and
Gillibrand. And now
Unknown: we turn to the analysis of Shields and Brooks, that is
syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times
columnist David Brooks. Hello to both of you. So we are trying to
work our way through a conversation with each one of
these candidates. Mark there now, as we said, 23 of them. We
talked to Eric Swalwell. Tonight, Kirsten Gillibrand last
night. I'm not gonna say they're one issue candidates, but they
are in his case, you heard him talk about gun control. Here's
Angela Bran emphasizing women's issues. What are you hearing
from them? Is? Is it smart for them to seize on one issue or
not?
Well, we'll find out. Whether it is it just strikes me that
abortion as an issue has been where Kristin Gillibrand is
probably most prominently identified is an issue where
those who seek it's hard to it's hard to imagine it and spit it
out, man. I just say the, the uneasy consensus. I mean, it and
that's this, and that, you know, to me, if you start to it just
did it change that which I think Republicans are finding right
now when you've got it. I think it tells you something about the
politics. It's,
John C. Dvorak: I mean, it was so that summarized it. Come on,
you
Adam Curry: edited that The guy does not sound like that he's
bad but he's not that bad. Anyway thank you brings it right
will not have this this this this fake fake news these deep
fakes taking place without without you coming clean
John C. Dvorak: well, I will say that I I trimmed it for to make
it more concise.
Unknown: Okay
John C. Dvorak: I did I went out of my way to do it specifically
better job. So the ear can't won't
Adam Curry: hear ya know it was undetectable. John, I don't I
don't know how you did it. Alright. Kamala Harris is not a
single issue. Candidate. She is a no issue candidate. She here's
what she says. You just bring up an issue to me, John, any issue.
John C. Dvorak: So what is your take on gun control?
Adam Curry: I think gun control in this country is something we
ought to have a conversation about. Try me again.
John C. Dvorak: What do you think about abortion?
Adam Curry: Yes, we need to have a comprehensive conversation
about women's reproductive rights.
John C. Dvorak: And you don't think that this is another one
of the test marketing strategies that no I know, issue candidate?
Adam Curry: No, I think she's sitting there waiting for the
other jump folks to come in with their reports and like, well,
and this didn't work really well. Kamla I'm trying this one.
But I don't know how serious she's being taken as a
candidate. She was on stage at a was the move on conference all
of a sudden. So man Bong pops up on stage, grabs her mic,
John C. Dvorak: said something. You got a mic and they cut him
off. Well, he talks you can
Adam Curry: hear him a little bit here much bigger idea.
Unknown: Thank you so much, sir, for your big idea.
Adam Curry: So there's there's 15. So I'm gonna let it run for
a second. There's 15 seconds between this man bond popping up
on stage Camela gets up walks away slowly. And after 15
seconds, some kind of security guard jumps the guy in from
behind, you know, pushes him away? Well, how serious can you
take this candidate? If she has zero security, any douchebag can
pop up and like, hey, here we go. I'm just grabbing the mic
and right in your face. Nothing happened. I
Unknown: want to make sure that we are
Adam Curry: but also what kind of a leader is Kamala Harris? I
mean, she's gone now she's off the stage. And this is going on.
Unknown: Okay, it's okay, folks. It's okay. People have their own
big ideas. They have their own big ideas.
Adam Curry: So she could have easily come back. The guy is off
the stage. To our folks that have come here to speak to you
didn't have to leave it all. She was never in any real danger
after they got Camela they have to chant to bring her back. This
would be the leader of the free world in our country. A pussy.
John C. Dvorak: No, you know, this is a Genex. Pick.
Adam Curry: Well, then he's picking a pussy. She's She's no,
she's a coward. She's a coward. She didn't really even want to
come back on stage. Even though this guy had been gone for a
minute. Will I remember that optics in my in my view, bad
optics for someone who wants to be president and leader. You can
step back for a second that maybe even say something
addressed to she was she was gone. She was she was in the
limo.
John C. Dvorak: I remember in the years past when Jean
McCarthy was running for president, and he showed up at
the Berkeley campus. And he's just so he was just like, showed
up and he was walking around with no security really and some
maniac just like this guy is only a older version or a
different version is a hippie version as opposed to demand
button type. Who's creepy looking guy by the way, they
start yelling at him and McCarthy. He gave as good as he
got. He just just stood there stood his ground and started
jacking with the guy and surely you're wrong about this or wrong
about that? Sure. He you know, he was I was very impressed by
this you know, yes, skulking off you know, in fear is not the way
to do it.
Adam Curry: You kind of have to see the video to just see that,
you know, she sits there. The guy comes right to Jack's the
mic out of her hand. She's like, Oh, and then now the guys
yapping he's walking and then you just see her go Tip two
through the two loops popular and
John C. Dvorak: the thing is she had this she always kept that
kind of should eat and grin that she always has. Yes, this one
Adam Curry: should have a conversation about that. I
think,
John C. Dvorak: just keep the smile on my face as I move out
of the way, let's
Adam Curry: have a conversation about that man barn. And then we
had Elizabeth Warren. She went on the Breakfast Club, which is
power 105 in New York, who apparently have no commercials,
I don't make any money. But they interviewed her for 45, almost
45 minutes, not a single commercial break, which is for a
morning show is pretty good. But it also, it really gave time for
us to get to know the candidates. And they are
brutally honest, you probably heard little snippets of this, I
figured it's no agenda. Why don't we play the entire piece
in context, where they ask her specifically about her mistake
of thinking she was of Native American heritage. And so I want
to clear
Unknown: up some stuff because there's a lot of criticism that
said about you, so to speak on these things. The Native
American, do you regret taking the DNA test? Oh,
I can't go back. But you
know, you gotta explain to a lot of people that don't know, now
you came out and said that you had Native American and long
ago, and you found out that you weren't, and people were very
upset about this. And for the people who don't know, now a lot
of people don't have, because we were putting, as well. So
Adam Curry: notice that she could go well notice that she's
also fighting the same issue that we were talking about with,
you know, what, what the public believes these guys, and she's
not answering any questions, obviously, you know, so are you
are you do you regret taking the DNA test? She didn't say no. Now
she's like, Yeah, you claimed falsely, you're driving in
America no long ago, she in the people's mind, she's a liar. And
I don't think she can break through it.
Unknown: So I grew up in Oklahoma, I learned about my
family the same way most people learn about their family from a
mama and my daddy, and some my uncle's Cornflakes box. And it's
what I believe. But I'm not a person of color. I'm not a
citizen of a tribe. And I shouldn't have done it. I can't
go back. You know what I should. But what I, what I can do is try
to be a good partner. And that's what I do every day.
How long did you all on it? Because there was some report
that said, You are a Native American on your Texas bar
license, and that you said you are a Native American awesome
documents when you were a professor at Harvard? Like why
do you do that?
So it's what I believe. You know, that's like I said, it's
what I learned from my family,
when you find out when did you find out you weren't? Well, no,
it's I'm not a person of color. I'm not a citizen of a tribe.
And tribal citizenship is an important distinction. And not
something I am. So
were there any benefits to that? No.
Bye. Boston Globe did a full investigation it ever affected.
Nothing about my family ever affected any job I ever got.
Didn't get a discount in college. It's kind of like the
original Rachel, those are a little bit. White woman
pretending to be black.
This is what I learned from my family. I know,
John C. Dvorak: she needs a crisis management.
Adam Curry: She's a better better combat nurse he
John C. Dvorak: needs Yeah, I can give some ideas of what she
should have done. Okay. First of all, she's right off the bat.
She could have killed this whole thing. And the Rachel Rachel
Dolezal thing. At the beginning, when they said you will you
regret taking the DNA test? She shouldn't be more aggressive and
say, look, look, look at that. Look, I was convinced it. And
then maybe you could do a side bar here and say, do remember
that there's a there's a black woman on YouTube that took her
DNA test and says she's white. And she's very upset about this.
I was convinced I was Native American. I have some features
that look Native American, I was told I was Native American. And
everybody's ridiculing me for because I'm white. So I decided
to take the DNA test because I took the DNA test because that's
what I thought once it proved that I wasn't Native American. I
said, Okay, fine. I'm out of
Adam Curry: here. Yeah. But see, the problem there is that if you
recall, I'm actually looking forward. When she did the DNA
test. She had a friend of I think one of her husband's
friends. And he is part owner of the company that did the
analysis. And he called her on the phone and they had both
sides of it. Well, looks like you're definitely definitely
Pocahontas. And so she can't get away from that, that that you're
done. I'm sorry. Because what
John C. Dvorak: the what I described if she you're right
boosts actually there's two things involved. One the This
she shouldn't. She doubled down was her problem. When the test
came back, there was something about her maybe having some
Peruvian or some South
Adam Curry: South South America, South American, South American
John C. Dvorak: Indian maybe. And so she went with that. And
as soon as she did that, to the Cherokee Nation are one of the
Indian tribes a day. It's got nothing to do with nothing. And
they brought up the thing about you're not a member of a tribe
and the whole thing is bogus. And so standing issues kind of
stuck in the middle. She should have used the DNA test to escape
from the nonsense of her being Native American right could have
done it you know, I guess it's not true. There's some evidence
maybe it's South America, but she didn't do that. She doubled
down that's the mistake she made she probably should have gotten
it consulted early. Yeah. No, she screwed up. She's complete.
Yeah, there was no way she's gonna get anywhere.
Adam Curry: Gosh, I wish I knew what those clips were.
John C. Dvorak: Like tour
Unknown: we believe in science that's
Adam Curry: right. Especially that of DNA.
John C. Dvorak: She pander juice that is the ISO for the end of
the show
Adam Curry: you like she she pandered quite a bit to every
every time she could turn around and say reparations or H HB CU.
Historically Black Colleges and unit while we got to give more
money there. She's just the pander. Put then she is. She
talked about her trip to the border a year ago. And I found
that to be quite disingenuous. No doubt the border is messy.
And yet detention facilities that it go to any jail any place
where people are detained. It's not pretty. You see human beings
behind bars. But there's another way you can paint that picture.
If you're Elizabeth Warren,
Unknown: I went down to the border. It's been what probably
about a year ago right now, when it first came out about
separating mamas from their babies. And picture an Amazon
warehouse. Only it's dirty, and it smelled bad.
Adam Curry: Oh, wait a minute. How's that different from an
Amazon warehouse? You do it right,
Unknown: any Amazon warehouse. Only it's dirty, and it smelled
bad. And I walk in and on the left. It's cage after cage after
cage cage. Not 10 feet wide, but 40 feet deep toilet back in the
corner. And they're just jammed one after another after another
same thing on the right only cages of women. Then you walk
into the main space. And there are these huge freestanding
cages out in the middle of little girls Jesus. Oh a
Adam Curry: lot of that cages in cages in cage and the way you
that conjures up is images of actual cages. But of course it's
you know it's bars it's cell
John C. Dvorak: her pandering and then the reparations thing
and all the rest of it these impractical ideas She's full of
crap she's always been full of crap and so she did that hearing
about Rachel calling on the phone to robo calls and she we
have to put a stop to it is worse than ever. She is a do
nothing Senator a do nothing person who just is very
ambitious.
Adam Curry: I have a clip here just because I see it from 2011
It says Elizabeth Warren elitist. Shall we just have a
listen since it's an old clip and you never know what joy
could bring us?
John C. Dvorak: I'm sure it's fantastic.
Unknown: You are causing problems. We had an agreement
for later hearing your staff asked us
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's just not good. I can already tell
there's not going to be good without knowing what it is. All
right. Then I have Brexit Brexit Yes, well, it comes with things.
I didn't get any clips or anything of John Cleese. But you
know, to please clip was not that good. No, it wasn't I did
get a good clip from Elton John, which I thought was there it
shows exactly the problem with people in this case, who are
with the establishment and and virtue signal and claim things
but really are behaving in exactly the opposite way. But
Elton John is in the news now. Not only because there's this
movie out about him called Rocket Man, which is in theaters
now. And I'm very much looking forward to that. And of course,
they've got the publicity machine ramped up, you know,
well, in Russia, they're showing it they're cutting out the gay
scenes. Well, that's just so you don't have to pay a fine. We say
you're cutting out the gay scenes. So don't lie about that.
But And he's on stage. And this is what he said just the other
night
Unknown: the incredible
healing power of love, compassion. Love.
Adam Curry: Love, John. Love compassion, the healing power of
down love. Yeah, write it down. Because you're gonna need it in
about 30 seconds with love and compassion in the world today, I
agree. Let's show some love out there some love and compassion
Unknown: love and compassion
Adam Curry: correct me if I'm wrong, he's saying, I love and
compassion. But I'm not a stupid imperialist English idiot who
likes Brexit? Am I missing something? Or is he missing the
compassion of people who feel different than he does? In this
case? He just said 20 seconds ago, he just said 20 seconds
ago, and he comes back to it wanted this
Unknown: done, and told people upon so I want more love in the
world.
Adam Curry: More Love just like that. I'm sick of these Imperial
English idiots. More Love and Compassion every bother.
John C. Dvorak: I mean, it sounds like dinero
Adam Curry: when people don't even see. I mean, did they not
see this themselves? It's like, Oh, man. And I know he can just
say I'm sick of what's happening but he's really really calling
out people who want to who are pro Brexit as imperialist
idiots. His own countrymen.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's pretty. That's pretty bad. Guys
get a lot of money. They think they're, you know, they get
there's a lot of guys.
Adam Curry: Well, Elton John is a whole, a whole nother level.
He can do whatever he wants, as far as I'm concerned. But yeah,
well,
John C. Dvorak: he's got all this money. And he and
immediately the first thing they do is they issue their own
nation because they consider themselves above it all. And he
lives in Atlanta International people. I'm an international
person. I'm an international civilian. He
Adam Curry: lives in Atlanta. That's his main. His main houses
in Atlanta.
John C. Dvorak: It's Trump to Yeah, you know.
Adam Curry: We should just call him Sharon from that. Yes, this
gay name is Sharon. Sharon. Yes. This the thing with a lot of gay
men. It's probably more 80s 90s thing. I don't know if it's
still done. Yeah. Then it's when he's hanging out with his with
his buddies. Did I hang out with him, but AIDS Project Los
Angeles, I did work for them way back in the MTV days. And that's
that was his his, one of his charities. And everyone just
like Sharon, Sharon, and he was head will whip around like
winter. Who Sharon, that's his name and the sun. But you have
to think you have to be a gay guy to be able to call them
that. Sharon.
John C. Dvorak: So there's a tidbit you won't get on any
other show?
Adam Curry: Well, I realized that after 11 years, we probably
should start repeating some of our stories, because not
everyone has heard them. And I've definitely mentioned this
one before. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure.
John C. Dvorak: It's nothing I would forget. You may have to
know even after the show, I'd never heard this story before
maybe. I mean, it's possible but no. All right. So we want to
take what I got one more thing, talking about love and hate. CNN
brings on this guy Professor Allan Lichtman. And Lichtman is
the professor who predicted the last night he's got some list of
criteria. And he's predicted supposedly of Lloyds only
recently known, but he supposedly as predicted last
night presidential elections nailed them, which means he
could make a lot of money if He parlayed that it seems to me. So
they bring him on. You think they're gonna bring him on to
discuss Trump as a you know, the potential candidate that he is?
And no, kind of but let's play Professor Allan Lichtman one but
Unknown: Professor Alan Lichtman has also made a name for himself
by looking into the future of historian has correctly
predicted the last nine presidential elections. Look at
all the faces on your screen. He called for Ronald Reagan in
1984, all the way through Donald Trump in 2016, the biggest
political upset in modern US history. Now, Lichtman says I'll
be it with some caution since obviously, nothing is final yet,
but the Trump will win again. But the professor also believes
Democrats do have a shot if they impeach him. So let's talk about
that Professor Alan Lichtman. Good to have you on.
Good to be on.
So you call it nine times nine. And you say now, and I know
we're still early and this is not your official prediction.
But you think Trump is it in 2020? Unless what
unless the Democrats grow a spine and do their
constitutional duty and move into an impeachment inquiry? And
I think the evidence will show ultimately and impeachment. It's
a false dichotomy to say Democrats have a choice between
doing what is right, and what is constitutional. And what is
politically right. impeachment is also politically right. Right
now, based on my system, there has to be six negative factors
against the party holding the White House to Trump party to
predict their defeat, they're down only three. But an
impeachment would nail down the scandal key a fourth key, it
might trigger other keys like a real challenge to his
renomination or a third party enough to defeat him. And let's
not forget, impeachment is not just a vote in the House. It
involves public hearings as part of the impeachment inquiry, and
which everyone forgets a public trial in the Senate in which
house prosecutors present evidence present documents make
opening and closing statements. You know, Richard Nixon, before
all the public revelations was that 67% approval, it was the
public revelations of his misdeeds that drove him down to
25%.
But here's the but Professor, because if you look at it the
other way, and you by the way, very well may be correct. But if
you look at the other way, if you consider that Trump is
daring Democrats to impeach him, right that he sees this as this
potential galvanizing moment for his party, and also those
importantly, who who've been on the fence ahead of 2020. Might
that not backfire on Democrats? politically? Absolutely not. Oh,
really? Okay. Definitely not.
John C. Dvorak: And then of course, then I get So Chris, I'm
already disappointed. This guy's not giving us any insight
whatsoever. He's just another Trump hater. They bring on CNN,
he goes on and on about why he should be impeached. And so he
throws this in and it's like, you after you listen to the joy
Bay horror rant and the other things that we've heard on the
show so far, you hear this and you just go, why or even what is
the point of anything? If this is the way things are gonna go?
This is part two, it's a short, short nine seconds,
Unknown: all the evidence against I'm not just talking
about obstruction of justice, we're also talking about
something Muller did not apply on possible collusion with the
Russians. Please.
John C. Dvorak: Muller did not a pine on he says collusion with
the Russians. And that
Adam Curry: was the news media, the very station you're asked.
John C. Dvorak: That's what the whole report was about.
Adam Curry: You know, CNN has now or Turner Broadcasting, I
should say, subsidiary of Time Warner is now moving all
freelancers to a 90 day billing cycle. Yeah, that's usually not
a good thing.
John C. Dvorak: That's usually an accounting trick. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah. When you have issues with your pay roll. It's,
and they're offering people Yeah, we got a special deal
through Citibank. They'll give you a loan in the meantime. That
sounds like a groovy way to work. Well, someone else who was
in the Nixon era was Tom Brokaw. He showed up on the morning
Joe's to really expresses displeasure at the ease at which
these impeachment discussions are even being held.
Unknown: And I've been going back over that period of time.
And the great, great differences, it was so much more
methodical than on both parties. They knew how serious this was.
This was not just a oh, let's put it on the calendar for
Monday. And impeachment means that we remove the president
from office. And that's there's no more dramatic instance in the
American Constitution or an American political way of life
than doing that. So they want to add it. Both parties and the
most methodical, thoughtful way and so they crossed every T and
dotted every I. They had discussions back and forth in
public and privately. Now they just throw the word around like
oh, let's take a break and Have an impeachment. I think that
that's really, really inappropriate. And I think it's
cheapens the process, frankly, and I don't think that advances
are interested in moving this country forward at a time now,
when we need to be paying much more attention to what the
Constitution says, what the process is, and who we are, you
know, we've got three branches of government, the President's
soul is the strongest. But if you're going to take the
president down, you better take him down in a way that you can
defend that 100 years from now, based on not just the evidence,
but on following the rule of law.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I was actually stunned by this clip,
because it was on Morning, Joe, and he's a known Trump basher.
Yeah, and
Adam Curry: he didn't really do the back shot off guard by this
at the exit cut away from him kind of went after that
sentence. They didn't even say thanks, Tom just went to some
other guy who was gonna go but for our for people outside the
United States, but also many people inside the United States.
And the house isn't doesn't impeach. That's not really how
it works. They they come up with the Articles of Impeachment, and
then they send that to the Senate as a recommendation for
the Senate to remove the president from office. Which
seems unlikely at this point. But pantsy you know, Pelosi went
on to Kimmel to sell her message. And she went on for
quite she got a long, long cyber, she had, I think, three
segments to do that for 1520 minutes,
Unknown: to terrible.
John C. Dvorak: Well, she says to be entertaining, she
Adam Curry: said some funny things. I did pull one clip,
which I want to share. But she was really there to do to give
the message to the to the populace that it's really not
prudent to do this. And she doesn't look she doesn't want to
do it. She knows why. It's a smart thing to do. She really
just wants to prolong this up until the election, you know,
it's the same thing. We just went through this, which is,
which is why it's no wonder that CNN is going to net 90 billing.
I mean, all these guys, you can't keep pushing this on
people. It's like the, you know, the Malaysian airplane, the wind
down, people get tired of it even of this, but Kim have
called her in. And she said some interesting things.
Unknown: Let me just say this, immodestly, okay,
Adam Curry: immodestly, so she's going to boast about herself in
a way I, I, it's like giving yourself the highest, almost the
highest credentials in the country. It was odd.
Unknown: Let me just say this, immodestly, I probably have a
better idea as to what the President has to be held
accountable for, than anyone. Have you read the Muller report?
Yes, I have the blacked out parts? No. Oh, we're calling for
that. We went to they would show it to me. But I said why? I'm
not gonna let you show it to me unless you show it to the whole
country. Oh, I would want to see
Adam Curry: if may also see how uninformed Kimmel is he doesn't
even know if he's I the way he's speaking. I don't even know if
he's, if he knows that there is a report that has been
published. He's like, it's not there. Well, I'd like to see it.
But you can read the whole thing except for five blackouts. Only
Show it to me,
Unknown: the only person who knows better than I why this
President is not above the law. Why This president must be held
accountable. The only person who knows better than I do is the
President of the United States. He knows.
Adam Curry: Wow, did Nancy she nuts. No one knows better than
her except the perpetrator himself. So it's Nancy's putting
herself right up that no one knows better. You have to go
through me. I know what's right for the country. I know what's
right for the party. And I also know what's right for, for young
people in, in poor neighborhoods
Unknown: knows what his violations
have been. I don't think he even knows. I don't think he Well, he
may not care. Yeah, I think sometimes they do things and
they go, Oh, that's not allowed. And then they kind of go back
and try to figure out what it was and how they can keep it
quiet.
Yeah, what really bugs me about that? Because when you see what
they say, Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know it was wrong to talk
to Russians about this. I didn't know. I said, Why don't how it
is. How do you explain that to kids in the hood when they were
approached by law enforcement? And I said, Well, I didn't
realize that.
Adam Curry: Let me just get this right. Nancy is talking about
kids in the hood. How do you explain this to kids in the
hood? Well, if you could find the hood, Miss Pelosi, that
might be a good start. Kids in the hood,
Unknown: talk to Russians about this idea. No. I said why don't
how does how do you explain that to kids in the hood when
Adam Curry: they kids in the hood? you'd like Buddhists,
Unknown: they're approached by law enforcement. And I said,
Well, I didn't realize that I was supposed to do this or that
we're supposed to know. But these very wealthy
Adam Curry: isn't that racist? I'm sorry, I just I can't get
past I can't get past her saying, how do you explain this
to kids in the hood? I can't get past it. Isn't that racist? Is
there a hood that she can she point to the hood? And maybe we
should do something about the hood? It bothered me.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's obvious that it did bother you.
I mean, it's bothersome. Nancy's just like a she's just like
she's almost she died. I wouldn't say she pulled a I
would almost want to say she pulled a Trump. But no, she
pulled like Dan Quayle.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, it was close to a quail, wasn't it?
Yes. Just kind of
John C. Dvorak: a gaffe of gaffes.
Adam Curry: Well, there'll be no impeachment. Yeah, there'll be
no impeachment, just a lot of noise and a lot of wasted
cycles. And I think it's quite a shame because there's so much
else going on in the world, which we can discuss. And we
shall do that. But first, allow me to thank you for your courage
and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the
Champions League John C. Devorah. Back
John C. Dvorak: in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry. In the
morning, all ships had seen feet on the ground boots in the air
subs in the water and all the names and nights out
Adam Curry: there in the morning to our trolls in the troll room.
We've been trolling today some some real trolls, but also some
helpful trolls. No agenda stream.com I want to mention
something about the stream no agenda stream.com where you can
go you log into that page, you can get into the chat room.
That's where the that's where it says chat, probably but it's
really where the trolls are. But you can also listen to the
stream. And this is 24/7 and there's a lot of live shows I
was listening yesterday it was really cool. We went from void
zero who was doing all kinds of interesting music and then all
sudden our good buddy Rhino, the bearded pop back on with his
double O countdown, which you know, it's it's it's fun to
listen to. It's really there's just so much interesting variety
of stuff that you should check it out. And certainly on both
Thursdays when we do the show on Sundays and Thursdays, no agenda
stream.com. And it's good to have everybody there in the
troll room this morning. Also in the morning to I believe we see
I believe this is Sir Andrew Gardner, who brought us the
artwork for episode 1142. We titled that corner Gedan. And
this was Bob Muller as Moses with the tablets. It was wasn't
the best photoshop job. But it was the right intent it had all
the right elements made us chuckle and therefore bestowed
with the with the honor of representing us in pod catch
apps all across Gitmo nation, where this new image popped up.
And we certainly appreciate it on all of the worker artists do
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much to all of our artists. Now executive producers Associate
Executive Producers our value for value model. Who do we have
to thank today, John?
John C. Dvorak: Oh, first of all, I want to mention that I
did use Mike Riley's piece for the newsletter. Which one was
that? It was a really nice evergreen piece that I thought
was just dynamite. I can't it just it was just the art class
is hard to describe. But let me do something I can describe is
executive producer, Christopher Massey, who came in with $400 is
a top guy for today's show, a 441143 and he says hello John
and Adam. I'm hopeful to get this donation letter registered
in time for the Sunday June 2 show you this momentous day is
when we will be celebrating the high school graduation by first
human resource but first a deed douching is an order. You've
been de deuced first donation started listen the show about
two years ago after got hit in the mouth by a friend. I
listened to only sporadically as they found it hard to find the
time to devote the requisite amount of hours each week five
to the amount of con five, six. The requisite MT five record is
that amount of content you provide. Slowly, slowly however,
I found the time to listen more regularly and ultimately later
hit my son in the mouth as well. The recent deconstruction of the
Russia Trump Carnival has been tremendous and although I was
really doubting Adams theory about Mueller being a cover up
guy at first, I've come around to at least accept it as a
strong possibility. Okay, My son and I have been spent a lot of
time on the road we are frequently traveling for his
athletic tournaments showcases and the like to be in such it's
been a tradition for us to throw on no agenda for our long drives
and we always find somebody to trigger a conversation either
right then or later on. He is now a regular listener as well.
But he's leaving our nest soon ordered to play sports at even a
higher level prior to going to college. And I know we will both
continue what does he do? He's this kind of sports as you play
I'd like to know Yeah, as politely to split this donation
into half for me and my son do that you do the bookkeeping is
an easy thing to do. I'd love some of our favorite jingles
goat karma for his next year that's true because I say it to
him all the time now just a real problem in most families we
Adam Curry: have we have the issue here as well yeah it's
true and
John C. Dvorak: and a full Al Sharpton resist we much
Unknown: that's true but resist we must. We must and we will
much about that you've got
Adam Curry: all right Chris. Yeah, let us know what your son
what kind of sport your son does.
John C. Dvorak: So Jeffrey stick raw Parts Unknown 393 93 What a
strange time to be alive does this many dollars make you play
the no agenda anthem? And he says oh dear, I'm hammered. For
yoga, we don't play it often enough. And you may sing along
in the morning good mood. We are human resources all lands lands
and tractors
Unknown: you've got
karma.
Adam Curry: Well, there you go. Thank you for requesting that
with a very short note Sir Geoffrey. Beautiful love doing
that the Gitmo nation national anthem.
John C. Dvorak: Joseph lazily you think lately is SLE or
Adam Curry: lives in New York? Maybe Leisel Liza wisely could
be
John C. Dvorak: basil could be licensed but it delays Lee would
be make sense to me 333 42 I'm a douchebag no more than as Rudy
douchey but he should give be given
Adam Curry: I will give him one Sure. Ben de deuced
John C. Dvorak: I've been listening enthusiastically for
two years now says by smokin hot wife hit me in the mouth. But
this is my first donation of the first time yes very good karma
for our brand new human resource the world you too and your fine
work well
Adam Curry: thank you very much. Here's the goat for you. You've
got karma Dan's your brand new human resource do tell more.
John C. Dvorak: Mike Harrington Sir My carried into most people.
Grand Canyon Arizona 333 33 gotta be a great place to visit
the little town. First I wish to congratulate Adam on his recent
marriage I wish you and Tina all the best because I do not
donate. I have not donated since last October I requested the
douching
Adam Curry: you Ben de doo doo Shin going on today.
John C. Dvorak: It's nice recently yeah recently accepted
a permanent position at the National Park Service in Grand
Canyon during the composting and in honor of show 1117 composting
people. I humbly request that my knighthood title be reverted. He
has another title to serve compost reyndir
Adam Curry: Okay, well, we'll put that in today's credits and
put that on there.
John C. Dvorak: I would rather deal with the vertical and
environmental challenges of Grand Canyon compared to the
grizzly bears at Glacier National Park where I worked
last summer. If anyone out there wishes to visit Grand Canyon
please stay away from the edge.
Adam Curry: Stop with the selfies ladies.
John C. Dvorak: The shows have been phenomenal as of late and I
especially appreciate the attention given to topics no one
else will cover. No agenda certainly helps to keep me sane
and in essential is essential my well being as I like to heck I
hike around the canyon during my job I cannot tell you how many
hikers I've passed on the trail. Who, who? Who look at me
strangely as I as I burst out in laughter while listening to the
download of the show. Whenever anyone asks why I'm laughing, I
tell them I'm reacting to my podcast and that they invented
Billy presume I'm listening to some douchey and elitist TED
Talk.
Adam Curry: In fact, we should we should make a separate feed
for people who just want to listen to no agenda covertly and
and have lamb and we'll tell like we'll call TED talk. We'll
misspell something. Yeah. TED talk to you. Okay, you know to
seek a TED talk. You will have like Ted logos and so people can
feel safe, safe using listening to our show.
John C. Dvorak: Little do they know I'm listening to the best
podcast in the universe. Please keep up the good work and know
that YouTube boats are very appreciated. I request jobs
coming for all the good old Reverend Al thank you for your
courage
Unknown: getting lunch at Chipotle? The tortoise in the
race?
Kardashian Weaver, ESP ICT they are all Jide ESP ICT there's no
real conference. Resist. Resist. We must. We must. And we will
much about
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. All right.
John C. Dvorak: Every time I hear that, I think to myself,
I'm pretty sure that Reverend owl pronounces GIF. like that as
opposed to gifts. That's why he said Jedi
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, maybe if we ever encounter him that will
be the number one question
John C. Dvorak: dad's if anyone meets the guy asked him how he
pronounced it show him the word by Brian down a peacemaker don't
say it's just how do you pronounce this word? How do you
pronounce this word? Don't say it just how do you pronounce you
think he'll say Judy? Bob Welsh is next on the list is Associate
Executive Producers 26252 Thanks, Adam and John by blank
blank. Where man and woman overboard Bob and B Belissa.
bellies. Bill Melissa. Okay. Pronounce like Melissa. But will
they be coming back to the fray? We needed douche douching for
many years for many years back.
Adam Curry: Okay, let's do douche then. You've been de
deuced
John C. Dvorak: there's a contribution the first of the
work for the Adam curry School of dancing for seniors. Upcoming
John C. Devorah cookbook for fake meat and farmed salmon.
It's a beautiful birthday on June 21. Delighted to get a goat
scream at That's true. A squirrel and maybe hot pockets.
You can dredge it up. Congrats. Congrats Adam on your recent
wedding. Bob and Bill Alyssa.
Adam Curry: All right. And we'll throw some karmi in there for
you as well. Let me do that again. I missed up the sequence.
I can do that better.
Unknown: Gosh, darn it
you've got
karma.
John C. Dvorak: Nicholas Robinson in Somerville,
Massachusetts and choose nuts to a 102 I humbly request some
moving karma as I transition away from living in apartments
and into my first house. Thank you for your courage and keep up
the good work.
Adam Curry: Oh guards. Yeah, congratulation carries.
Congratulations Nicholas on the on the new house. Here is your
moving karma as requested.
Unknown: You've got karma Are you good?
John C. Dvorak: Eric Roos boom, Roosevelt ramp in on the lake.
Adam Curry: crimper. Close. Rosenbaum crimp and Angelique
very good
John C. Dvorak: well, Rosa, boom. He's in the Netherlands.
You can jump because of your Netherlands standing accent.
Yes. $200 ITM John and Adam after years of donating $5 per
month I'm getting closer to being knighted. This donation is
a giant leap into to this goal and contribution to the best
podcast in the universe. Monday the third, it'd be celebrating
my 50th birthday, the old fashioned Dutch way.
Adam Curry: We know how that works. Have come on everybody.
Let's go with
John C. Dvorak: Dutch birthday circle listening to each other's
boring stories. And now let's I don't think people have heard
this for at least a number of years.
Adam Curry: Yes. So the Dutch birthday experience. It has
multiple facets. The main way it works is you go over and this
may have changed throughout the past 20 years. I haven't really
actively been living there.
John C. Dvorak: But I have no evidence of this having change.
There's no evidence of
Adam Curry: it having change You go over to the person's house
and everything's decorated, they have a chair that Dutchman nuts
about birthday, that chair will be decorated with balloons and
all kinds of stuff from the early morning on by the way, you
get up in the morning your chairs already decked out your
presents are there and it's a big, it's very festive. All the
family and the friends come, it's the same people you saw
last week at someone else's birthday party. And then they
have all the chairs in a circle in the living room. And we're
all drinking and we're chatting and we talk about things like
you know, our morning would bad breath, you know, your your
wife's bad breath. And it's the same stories and everyone kind
of does it. The kicker though is when you go to the bathroom in a
Dutch home, there will be a calendar on the wall seat height
for men and women. Women see the calendar more often. And the
calendar is a Birthday Calendar. And you can see because of
course you're at the person's house. Oh, it's their birthday
here today. You can put your own on and you can also look ahead
and see where the next circle will be. It's a wonderful
cultural experience that I recommend to everybody. Only
once
John C. Dvorak: it sounds dreadful
Adam Curry: No, it's really quite okay it's really nice of
the way the Dutch I like the Birthday Calendar. I still think
it's a great promotional item because a very
John C. Dvorak: funny idea that should do put some no agenda
propaganda in there. Oh,
Adam Curry: we should we should have rubber stamp.
John C. Dvorak: Here we go. A pocket rubber stamp that says no
agenda show the best podcast is www no agenda show.com rubber
stamp pocket type the kind of you can put your podcast, stamp
it on everything.
Adam Curry: Doesn't sound like it'll be very beneficial to the
show. I don't think so.
John C. Dvorak: He he would like to request a goat karma, Dr.
Kiki and science and an F cancer. And he says to Groton is
that what is the fruiting group, Gordon Cruden crimping on Dilek.
Nail this already you've got
Unknown: karma
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Adam Curry: you've got it all you know how that birthday is
worked out that propagate our formula. Our
Unknown: formula is this. We go out for yet people in the mouth
we believe in science.
Adam Curry: Kinda like that Liz dropped a good name that kind of
works everywhere. It's a good one. I
John C. Dvorak: think you can drop it anywhere. We were
talking about impeachment a little while ago, I did have one
clip that I wanted to sneak in. This was on MSNBC. And this is
the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And of course, most
people weren't too impressed. But this is Donny Deutsch.
Adam Curry: Let me just hide. This is how it works in the
curry household, which I can say now. Donny Deutsch will be on or
something. Well, I kind of watch MSNBC a lot when I'm here during
the day. And Mrs. Curry, we'll say Isn't that Donny Deutsch an
advertising guy? What is he doing with that exact voice? By
the way,
John C. Dvorak: Donny Deutsch? Well, we're glad you're getting
your voice.
Adam Curry: I know I'm getting I'm getting. I've heard her
talks
John C. Dvorak: or anything like that. She shared just Oh crap.
Adam Curry: It's a lie. It's not true.
John C. Dvorak: It's a lie. So Donny Deutsch comes on and he is
a notorious I don't know how he got this way. A lot of people
are these. They're beyond the pale when it comes to Trump
hate. Yeah. And he's one of them. And I don't, it has to
stem back from you know, the guy Trump is has a insulting
character. Most often, I think he would in his years of being
in New York and running into people, events,
Adam Curry: everyone being in New York. Everyone's running
into Donny Deutsch back in his ad days. Everyone knows him.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, so I think Trump ran into him and insult
him. So he's still pissed about it. Now, here's what his
thinking is about impeachment. And this is like, probably an
interesting idea. But this is due to transparency, I don't
think would work and I think it would be condemned. But here's
what he's saying. And I
Unknown: politics on MSNBC, Donny Deutsch. So Donnie, what
do you make of this argument? This is the political argument
versus the base argument. And you want the word impeachment
out of the conversation, explain that.
I want to rebrand the fight. You have to fight the Democrats have
to fight to the reps point. But you don't want to fight that
you're going to lose. You're going to lose an impeachment
fight for two reasons, because Donald Trump gets to say,
they're coming to take me away. You they're going to take your
president, and it's not going to go anywhere in the Senate. So
you do look like sore losers and you're setting up a losing
fight. Does that mean you fight don't fight? No. You rebrand the
fights, step away from impeachment, and change it to
the Trump criminal investigations already brand him
a criminal. You say? Robert Muller basically said he
obstructed justice. We know that that was a criminal activity. He
just couldn't date because of the guidelines. We know he's an
unindicted co conspirator with the Southern District. We know
we're going to be looking at his taxes. His philanthropies, you
Nancy Pelosi, you Jerry Nadler, you Adam Schiff, you Elijah
Cummings started initiate the Trump criminal investigations.
Impeachment may be part of it. Brand him a criminal already you
have already had an ag that has gone on a branding exercise. The
head of the judicial system is went on a branding exercise
successfully. The Congress needs to rebrand impeachment. The
Trump criminal investigations have him saying I'm not a
criminal. That is the simple winning fight. rebrand
impeachment is not the right word for you.
Adam Curry: Hmm, rebranded talking like an ad guy. That's
rebranded brother. So what exactly does he want? Does he
mean by that?
John C. Dvorak: He wants to pivot. He wants to pivot. All
right, pivot to I don't know what he wants is a stupid, it's
just like let's rebrand and start. This is not going to
work. And it's a bad idea. In fact, I don't know why that
seems to me all they did. All this is turning out and he says
the Democrats have to fight they have to, yeah, they have to
fight when the elections come around. To just spend three
years whether there's a president you don't like you
don't like the guys in office, you don't like him. So all
you're going to do is fight for three years and maybe four
years. Do nothing. Beware Elizabeth Warren can do that
with their hands.
Adam Curry: What else? What else? What else would this guy
do? He's got nothing better to do.
John C. Dvorak: Who Donny Deutsch just go back to his old
business. He's not an interesting character. But okay,
Adam Curry: well look at Donnie dork just to give you an idea.
If you haven't, like saying Donny Deutsch. Brittani reminds
Donny Deutsch, he reminds me of Larry Copal, who you don't know
I don't think anyone in the ad business will remember Larry
cobalt. And he's one of these guys who either winds up being
the creative director or the CEO or like President, as I was
always my favorite title, I was wanting to be the president of
some organization, and co founder because I co founded
that. So I'm cool. But I'm President, I have no phone, no
responsibility. It's like, I don't have a seat title and do
whatever you want. He's the president of stuff. And he's
he's the guy who will go into the client, like Oracle and
explain his vision for rebranding their, their database
product. That's that's what he does or used to do. And I see
children from all over the world. And I see how Oracle is
making the database. bring joy to the children, and everyone
goes, Oh, yeah, Donnie, and he's a legend. That's the kind of guy
he is. Yeah. Well, I figured it out.
John C. Dvorak: I figured it out. John, mock him. They mocked
him.
Adam Curry: I'm gonna move away from politics for a moment.
Good. I figured it out. I figured out what Oh, and now I
really figured it out. And it was something we could have
known. Tucker Carlson had a guy on the this past week. And this
guy's name is Luis Elizondo, and he is billed as a former
military Intel officer, and I'm quoting the lower third
verbatim, former military Intel officer sounds impressive, very
impressive. And when I heard this interview about the tic
tac, the flying tic tac this flying saucers, oh, these air
force pilots military pilots coming out and being very open
and not having an issue at all about talking about these very
strange stuff. I mean, are they among us? Are the aliens here?
Are they? Are they just flying around? I mean, it's just it's,
it's flustering. So bring in the expert, the former military,
Intel officer Louise,
Unknown: we have the most sophisticated weapons systems
right now on the face of the planet. And we can identify not
only a 737, or a MIG 25, or F 22. We can tell you even what
airline it is, and the difference between the models of
aircraft within that type of aircraft. So I think it's highly
unlikely that a foreign adversary was successful in
developing something like this. So let me ask you one last
question. Do you believe based on your decade of serving in the
US government on this question, that the US government has
possession of any material from one of these aircrafts? I do,
yes.
Do you think the US government has debris from a UFO in his
possession right now?
Unfortunate Tucker, I really have to be careful of my NDA. I
really can't go into a lot more detail in that. Okay, but simply
put, yes. Bullshit.
Adam Curry: Okay. Let's just review that last minute there.
Oh, Tucker. Oh, Tucker. I really I really can't tell you too
much. I will break my NDA. Listen to this guy thing you
asked God listen to this
Unknown: is debris from UFO possession right now.
Unfortunate Tucker, I really have to be careful of my NDA. I
really can't go in. Okay, so
Adam Curry: the question is, do you think the US government has
debris from an alien spacecraft talker? I, I really can't. It's
my NDA. It's
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Adam Curry: okay. So I guess I can break my this guy is full of
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John C. Dvorak: aliens but
Adam Curry: there's also one other little thing happening the
right now we really think
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Adam Curry: That's right out in theaters just now just in time
for all the hype Men in Black international now. Yes, another
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and some consulting from the to the stars. academy.com. This
whole thing has been about a movie promotion from the get go,
and we missed it. Well, I
John C. Dvorak: don't think we missed he didn't bring it up. I
don't think that's it either. I mean, this whole Tucker Carlson
thing was it even promoted on there? What do you think comes
on? He does he does a crap job of promoting as he is.
Adam Curry: Well, no, no, no, no, no, no backup backup. All of
this. Let's go back to the stupid tic tac videos. That's
all in promotion of the movie. It's not just this guy. The
whole thing has been a setup. Like we always say,
John C. Dvorak: this is something I think some producers
have noticed about us. We used it more thematically. Do this
point out that just whatever's being publicized and all over
the news is just a prelude to some crappy movie. And we have
not really made a point of doing that as much as we used to five
years ago or six years ago. Right. And I think that's valid.
Adam Curry: I think this is where this is what it's all
about, particularly when I see this guy is showing up
everywhere. He's talking about the little blips there, and he
was and he was I can't I have an NDA, but yes, yeah. But yeah.
And see what does it show here? The Luis Elizondo reveals
details about Pentagon's hidden UFO program in stunning New York
Times front page expose a so we can trip
John C. Dvorak: times game, okay. native ad. Yes,
Adam Curry: exactly. Exactly. The whole thing is one big
native ad.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, for the movie. Yeah. From that movie or
is it a new
Adam Curry: it's no it's well, it's not with Will Smith. It
hasn't new young hip actors and it also has
John C. Dvorak: what's what's as opposed to Will Smith Yeah,
Adam Curry: but what's his name? The the Liam? Liam Neeson?
John C. Dvorak: He's nuisances you just get kidnapped again?
What's the deal? Now he's, he's,
Adam Curry: he's playing the Tommy Lee Jones, kind of like
the older guy showing the younger kid the ropes. That's
the format of the movie. But I but I can't tell you, John,
because you know, I don't want to break my NDA. Yeah, you'll
just boiler can't tell you too much about the movie. So there
it is. Everybody. We even I was confused. I thought well, maybe
it's about the the next phone out.
John C. Dvorak: More of a mia culpa. It is an extra. Okay,
that's interesting. I think you're right. Somehow we've
missed out on the we don't do this enough. I think somebody
said to us and we should have we should be more alert. Yes. And
oh crap. The Hollywood
Adam Curry: the Hollywood influence and as you know, we
believe in science. Just want to make sure that we're on the up
and up. Of course,
John C. Dvorak: well, I have an interesting den this Sunday that
would normally wouldn't cover although I have a thesis that
you know, these some of these events that many of them which
could be described as false flags. I think there's good
reason for it. Because the script issues i i have i have
the couple of clips on the Virginia Beach gunman This is
the big story that broke on Friday, I think yeah, some guys
gun and just from across the street just shooting people
randomly like it's like a maniac, but he worked there. No,
yeah. And he was a worker that did most of this is covered in
this NBC report. Let's start with part one shot five.
Unknown: Witnesses said a man was firing at the Public Works
building next to City Hall part of a sprawling downtown city
government complex on second floor to take the garage
Sallyport as first responders flooded in and city employees
ran out. police stormed the building and found what they
said was a single gunman who was subdued and taken into custody
the suspect entered building to he's a longtime employee of
public utilities, and he immediately began to
indiscriminately fire upon all the victims Hello,
John C. Dvorak: what's it in there?
Adam Curry: Yeah. 32 second clip. That's all I got here.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, my God.
Adam Curry: This is the karma you get for saying my stuff.
Don't sound good.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I don't think so. But let's go to part
of Virginia. Okay. I still had luckily I saved part of it.
Virginia Beach gunman to that final of this.
Unknown: Please. Six people were rushed to local hospitals. One
man who was inside so I was shooting victim on a flight of
stairs. Ever Shama
says you could have shot who knows. We don't even know she
was on a stairway coming up going down, but she was on the
stairway. The city
workers in nearby buildings were worn to stay away.
We heard shooting, but we didn't think it was that close. That
close like in proximity of the building.
This is the most devastating day in the history of Virginia
Beach. The people involved are friends, co workers, neighbors,
colleagues,
as police went room to room to make certain it was over city
workers waited for Word on their fellow employees still in shock
at a deadly turn to the final hour of the workweek. And pate
joins us again. What an awful turn of events. What do we know
about that firefight with the suspect?
Will police say that one of the shooting victims was a police
officer but they say his life was spared by his bulletproof
vest. They're not saying anything tonight about the
motive of the gunman who was killed in the shootout with
police case. All right,
John C. Dvorak: Pete, thank you. Okay, well, here's what I was
left out of the first clip, which is the as he continued on
that is part three
Unknown: found what they said was a single gunman who was
subdued and taken into custody. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Who did you didn't I? This was what I was
hoping for. You didn't notice the difference?
Adam Curry: Or the the different. I'm a little
confused. Now. The difference between two and three? You mean?
Yeah. Let me listen to it again. Don't say anything.
Unknown: At least six people were rushed to local hospitals.
One man who was inside saw a shooting victim on a flight of
stairs.
Every shot was says you can be shot and who knows. We don't
even know she was on a stairway coming up or going down. She was
on a stairway.
The city workers in nearby buildings were warned to stay
away.
We heard today but we didn't think
Adam Curry: before. Didn't they kill the guy? Wasn't he one of
the victims? Isn't that what I'll listen now? Now this
probably what is that
Unknown: close? That close like in proximity of the building.
This is the most devastating day in the history of Virginia
Beach. The people involved are friends, co workers, neighbors,
colleagues,
as police went room to room to make certain it was over city
workers waited for Word on their fellow employees still in shock
at a deadly turn to the final hour of the workweek.
And pate joins us again. What an awful turn of events. What more
do we know about that firefight with the suspect?
Will police say that one of the shooting victims was a police
officer but they say his life was spared by his bulletproof
vest. They're not saying anything tonight about the
motive of the gunman who was killed in the shootout with
police. Okay, yeah, there we go. And then this, what they said
was a single gunman who was subdued and taken into custody.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And we also, by the way, I
John C. Dvorak: want to say a couple of things. This was in
this exact same report. That's crazy. He said the is the same
reporter. Pete is saying that he was taken into custody in one
hand and he was shot and killed on the other. And you wonder why
people think this and then you listen to the mayor talking like
a robot. And there was a woman there that was talking like a
robot. You wonder why people get upset with the news media. It
this just looks like some bullcrap it was he shot or was
he taken into custody. Eventually the
Adam Curry: shooting stopped and police were able to confront
Craddock in an office they broke down the door and engaged him
with fire when the shooter was subdued. 36 minutes after the
first call to police went out, offers attempt attempted to
render aid to save chromatics life He died on the way to a
nearby hospital. That's the story I have from Whopper
Whopper Whopper Whopper Whopper that
John C. Dvorak: would be the way you'd modify this mess.
Adam Curry: And the guy's name does he have three names? Do we
have a first middle and last name? No. Duwayne is that is
first name Dewayne. GW a yne. Dewayne is a is as his as a as
in Dwayne, as in Dwayne $1. Dwayne
John C. Dvorak: could. It's often in the black community
when they use the name Dewayne. Dewayne
Adam Curry: the shooter was black. Dwayne The shooter was
black is Dwayne Yeah. And Dewayne. Well, yeah. So when I'm
reading it, it's like Dewayne, but yeah, it's Dwayne.
John C. Dvorak: Of course not Dwayne. It's I'm sure it's not
pronounced Dwayne they the black community has the name Dewayne
is pronounced. Dewayne. Could
Adam Curry: you please tell me where I find this community,
this community that you speak of?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I'm living right next to it. Because in
Oakland, I know a lot of people and they use the word Dewayne
and then the word Dewayne is very common around here.
Adam Curry: I went to school with a Dewayne in West Virginia
to Dwayne Wayne. Yes,
John C. Dvorak: he was he was cowed by you, whitey.
Adam Curry: I was the white shadow. What are you talking
about? It was me and all the black guys. Tyree Dwayne Nelson,
come on. But you may know you may be right.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it could be the one. But the point is, is
that taken into custody is not the same as being taken to the
hospital and dropping dead.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So you Well, so what you're the way you set
that up is saying, Well, this looks phony baloney because dot
dot dot but then what would the reason be? What the What what is
what agenda needs to be moved forward? Other than it's not
just crazy white guys who do mass shootings?
John C. Dvorak: Well, I have no idea. I know it was a botch. In
terms of the presentation, you can't present a story like this
and say the guy was taken. And he was, you know, tucked down
and taken into custody, and then at the end saying was shot and
killed. It's just my point is that this you can see why people
get suspicious when you see this report by the same reporter and
he's botching the story. As you go along. This is network these
guys get paid a lot of money. This is not like local news,
where they get in fed all kinds of different things. And they
have to piece it together because maybe native advertising
we don't know. This is like the big time and it's just you see,
you hear this stuff and you just befuddling at least I was
confused by it.
Adam Curry: I honestly I kind of tuned out from it. That's what
happens all the time. Which is why I'm why we got to stay on
it. Yeah, we got to stay You're right. We got to stay on these
things.
John C. Dvorak: Because the idea is you get to blows by and then
you know you just fall asleep is very somnambulistic. This this
type of reporting as well. And you have these boring guys. You
know, they got a microphone in somebody's mouth going. But dark
days put you to sleep. Of course it does.
Adam Curry: Well, what I saw as the news broke was oh, there you
go. White, horrible. George, another Grady White Guy
Republican Maga. That's what you saw on the social media. And
then it became then it became apparent that this man is from
as you would say, the black community. There now and also,
just in fleeting I remember hearing someone say I'm only
going to mention his name once never again. That's always a red
flag to me. Like, are you never gonna mention his name again?
Okay. But seems like people are dead, John. So I don't know
what's I don't know.
John C. Dvorak: I'm not saying it's a false flag. It's just
seems to be horrible in some funny way. Possible? Well, and I
don't know. And I agree. I don't know what the point of it would
be.
Adam Curry: How much does Sarah Sanders make speaking of making
a lot of money? She got beat up in the $184,000 range. Isn't
that kind of the top scale for someone of her statue in, in
presidential PR.
John C. Dvorak: I would guess it would be something like that.
Well, she should give some
Adam Curry: of that back.
Unknown: The President's number one responsibility is to protect
Americans.
Adam Curry: Bullshit, Sarah? It is to defend and uphold and
protect the Constitution of the United States. That is his oath.
Yes. Yes, protecting the citizens falls under that. But
that is not the oath and you should know better shame on you.
Shame.
John C. Dvorak: Shame. Yes, yes. It'll be when this show is ended
in 35 years. That will still be a running gag.
Adam Curry: 35 years are you sure?
John C. Dvorak: So now I have talking about I consider this a
nine second clip. This is what I consider. MSNBC is whole problem
roll up into a kind of just a knot. Is is the sick analysis of
the situation by Lawrence O'Donnell. 19 most
Unknown: Americans say they definitely will not vote for
Donald Trump re election most Americans disapprove of
President Trump in his job performance. And always have.
Adam Curry: Especially during that thing, that election thing.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. So why are the Democrats why are they even
concerned over at MSNBC about the 2020 elections, when most
Americans will not vote for him? Period? And they don't like him.
So what's the problem? Just get to 2020 Put your person in
whoever it is. They'll obviously kick his ass. Right?
Adam Curry: Yeah, but the problem is they don't have that
someone they have no one they have no one to run matter.
John C. Dvorak: They hate everyone hates Trump so much
they can run anyone.
Adam Curry: It's so insulting to watch this stuff. I know you I
know. You must hate it to just watch it. I rarely watch it.
It's really hard to watch these days. And you want you want to
So now he's going over to the UK. I guess he's doing a do over
of his of his royal visit, and probably gonna go gloat in
Theresa Mays face. Intelligent totes. That's what that's not
the way to do it. Oh, she appears once again Victoria
Kagan Nudelman. interviewed on the BBC regarding Trump's United
Kingdom Thruway stop.
John C. Dvorak: You're telling me that this woman who has been
out of the scene for X vital know ever since Obama got done
with? Why is she being interviewed by anybody? Why are
they interviewing you?
Adam Curry: Well, I think when you hear this 49 second clip,
it'll become very apparent, because she says things that I
never would.
Unknown: Thank you very much for joining me. What does Trump need
to get out of this visit? You know, I think he wants to
demonstrate that he is a statesman, I think he's going to
enjoy very much his time with the queen. I think he considers
his own dynasty somewhat royal all of those kinds of things.
And I hope that when he goes to Portsmouth and then goes on to
Normandy, he can feel the importance of this very special
relationship and he will be imbued a bit with the challenge
of maintaining this liberal world order that so many
Americans and Brits gave their lives for
Adam Curry: oh, this is where this this drove me nuts. Oh,
yeah, this drove me nuts when I heard her say that so he's there
for D Day.
John C. Dvorak: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That my father went in the
Navy in World War Two both my grandfather's might now
everybody that we know was injured in World War Two
specifically for the liberate for the liberal New World Order
Adam Curry: the liberal world order, yet they know they die
when they died, they died for it. Some people die the world
liberal world order. Let's listen again,
Unknown: a bit with the challenge of maintaining this
liberal world order that so many Americans and Brits gave their
lives for.
Adam Curry: Unbelief unbelievable. My one grandfather
landed in Normandy Beach. The other one was South Pacific. For
the liberal world order. Somehow I don't think that sounds
historically correct.
Unknown: So liberal world order is Nudelman.
John C. Dvorak: Unbelievable. And that's that's an insult
actually, it's a huge insult insult to the armed forces that
fought in World War Two.
Unknown: Yeah. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Isn't that crazy? The very
John C. Dvorak: crazy but that's what you do you do. You do the
Donny Deutsch. You do a little rebranding words around a little
bit,
Adam Curry: but a bing bada boom, bada
John C. Dvorak: bada that Assange is the one who hacked
the DNC computer somehow that's right.
Adam Curry: We died for the liberal world order is like what
what's your question slave?
Unknown: I'm gonna show my school by donation to no agenda.
I imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd
be fun
John C. Dvorak: as you would the liberal world order is given us
for today, starting with Baron Lanigan, no barren Atlantic and
$100 Sir Chris Gray of the Isle of Wight. 888 He's got a
birthday of some sort coming up in his day. That's
Adam Curry: right. That's right.
John C. Dvorak: Devon would 6190 in Elko, Nevada. He needs a de
douching okeydoke you've been de deuced putting some mental
health climate at the end for people with Crohn's disease.
Yes. Good. Christopher Depp Georgetown New York 6119 first
time donor another dude, this is the first time
Adam Curry: you've been de deuced that's the first time
gonna show
John C. Dvorak: your daddy cast 6119 Which, by the way 6190 was
the gimmick donation for this show? And we got four people
that that thought it was worthwhile. Here's an A no
Marilyn Monroe standoffs.
Adam Curry: I didn't understand the Marilyn Monroe send off.
John C. Dvorak: It was the birthday. Oh, and she'd be 93 If
you could imagine. I thought it was funny. But nobody ever
Adam Curry: whenever you open up about this day in history, and
then you know I can just send your urine wiki PDM link.
John C. Dvorak: What was it? Farmers Almanac?
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. The Farmers Almanac. Yeah, I think
it should have just focused on Marilyn Monroe. It's like too
many things in there.
John C. Dvorak: maybe when I'm panicked.
Adam Curry: I can. And I know you're not you're not you're
telling the truth. It's going to show
John C. Dvorak: that we have besides your wedding, which
wasn't really a gimmick, but to Glasgow was the Fibonacci
number. The best gimmicks, the best ideas for go nation
segments. I will say this for people who are reluctant to
bring it up. It's when one of the producers comes up with some
screwball idea that's so off the wall like the Fibonacci number.
Yeah, that stuff usually works really well usually works like a
champ. I can kind of put the wordage around it and maybe sell
it a little bit but coming up with it from scratch, newsletter
after newsletters I
Adam Curry: can I can make a recommendation. You can to the
New York to the newsletter department. Yeah, why don't you
tell people that if they appreciate the work, they should
send some value for it. I've done that. It doesn't work.
John C. Dvorak: It works about as well as the long essays All
right, I mean, if I put actual content in the newsletter list
I'm obliged to do by law
Adam Curry: a it goes into spam. Oh my god, we have a promotional
thing with with content spam spam spam alert. All right, the
Google say spam
John C. Dvorak: that's exactly how it works. All right, so we
have sir daddy cast 6119 for kind of commenting on the puppy
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Adam Curry: you would like some human resource karma for his
wife and himself. We'll put that at the end of course. Yes. We
John C. Dvorak: have some money Yeah. Was the other one I say
we're going to do I forgot. Oh, yeah, the Crohn's disease good
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that Matthew called Paragon 6119. A Pete fetter. There he
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Adam Curry: in his jobs Karma is a job offer on Monday so yeah,
we'll we'll roll that out for you.
John C. Dvorak: Leo. Coker probably could be co chair but
coke I think to do 143 goes down fast.
Adam Curry: He says something interesting here Australian
property bubble about to pop
John C. Dvorak: stocking up on popcorn
Adam Curry: kiss we'll be sitting back kicking back
relaxing and watching All right.
John C. Dvorak: Let's be short. James Scott 51 wants to
congratulate you on your wedding Q II find interesting clip we'll
look at that later. Obviously can't do it now. He
Adam Curry: does say you guys have been a godsend and a very
rough year for me personally only wish I could donate more.
No, we thank you. Whatever. It's whatever you can you can support
us with this good and I'm happy that that we've been there for
you this year.
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got nothing so it probably wouldn't have done that. Well.
Adam Curry: I said it was only a suggestion I do not. I don't
know how to run the I've run the production department. I don't
run the newsletter department editorial. What was nice to see
is that we got a lot of people coming back and requesting D
douching. Since they haven't donated in a quote unquote while
but some of them the significant while so yeah low today but I'm
also really pleased I'm pleased to see that people are still
here and they still benefit from the value we give them in the
value for value system that we have created here together 11 In
our 11th season. I'm like saying this our 11 season now on the
air you were syndication times to baby and I'd also like to
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We cut that off there that's where people can send donations
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Adam Curry: multiple Karmis to take care of so let's do all
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Adam Curry: well, we got a second of June 2019, a brand new
month and we got a couple of birthdays that we'll be
celebrating Bob Well says Happy Birthday to his wife, bi Lisa,
like Melissa with a beat. No. But Alyssa There you go. She
celebrates her birthday today, sir of course Dre also
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June 4. Congratulations. Happy birthday for everybody here at
the best podcast in the universe.
Unknown: Don't get around douchebag producer is we are.
Adam Curry: Today, one title literally changes that is Sir
Mike Harrington. You heard him earlier and he has changed his
title to Sir compost Ranger. And we welcome these title changes,
for whatever reason and always makes propagating the formula
that much better. When you have a snappy name. Make sure to add
it to your Twitter server, compost Ranger. No nice things.
But we do have a list of our meetups reminders that today,
Sarasota, Florida, we'll be meeting up people are tweeting
out pictures of these meetups and some of them are you know
there's smaller ones because it's just the first time in the
location. Everybody seems to have a good time. It's it's
mostly thinking about this some comparison to now I was watching
a flash mob the other day from that you don't see them anymore.
2015 I think was Australia. And it always makes me smile to see
people who have rehearsed at home and don't know each other
but have have participated in something come together and then
it just all kind of flows and they're all dancing and the
coordinated moves and gives you a great feeling. You know what I
mean? Is that weird what I'm saying?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it is weird, but at the same time, I
know what you mean. And it's different. Because after the
flashmob those people never talk to each other again most people
who go no agenda meetups actually make friends and stand
contact for a long time. That's what happens in Michigan.
Adam Curry: And I think that's a moment though when when they
come together. It's like oh, hey, did we all kind of are open
minded and we you know, we listen to the same show. We have
different opinions, but it seems to work very well. And exactly
as you said, people like to stay in contact afterwards and do
repeat meetups. So today Sarasota, Florida, June 6,
Seattle, sevens Toronto June 8, Oklahoma City, Knoxville,
Tennessee, June 9. And here's what's cool. I think that URL of
Tennessee Sir Patrick Coble is at the Knoxville meetup on the
ninth. Then he joins us on Wednesday the 12th in London for
the meetup they're twins could be shoot when you look at that
guy could be triplets. He's all over the world. Mister
penetration tester? Copenhagen spa
John C. Dvorak: spy. You're a handler new handler? Well, he's
got ex military.
Adam Curry: Well, let me tell you this. He's handling me very
well with that. Kentucky bourbon. doesn't say anything
you want Earl. We have the 15th of June it's
John C. Dvorak: true of chromatograph go on
Adam Curry: Copenhagen. Then we have the Fourth of July Seattle,
Washington once again. That'll be an interesting one. And maybe
a lot of people who knows but we'll find out Atlanta Georgia
on July 13 And you can find out locales you can find out more
information sign up yourself at No agenda@meetups.com Please
have a look at that. And I look forward to seeing everybody in
London that should be a lot of fun. Depending on who could make
John C. Dvorak: a date on this again this gives us some rundown
Adam Curry: the 12 the Wednesday the 12th of June so that seems
those coming Yeah, it's in less than two weeks. No, okay. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: we're going next Sunday Father's Day.
Adam Curry: I you know, I really don't know is it I think so. It
could be or is
John C. Dvorak: the third the Father which would chat right
without me having to go to the computer jasm Should just bring
up the right email troll
Adam Curry: room. Yeah, sure. All rooms so the trolls need to
tell us when it may be a messy promotions for it. It's the
third Sunday in
John C. Dvorak: a Thursday will be the Sunday after you get
back.
Adam Curry: No, because we're going to Portugal. On okay,
we're finally taking a four day honeymoon live in large Okay,
all right. Well, I
John C. Dvorak: got a couple more.
Adam Curry: You can't be done. I gotta I gotta throw some stuff
your way first. You were the one who reported on Lori Lightfoot,
the new mayor. Chicago.
John C. Dvorak: Do you remember? Right? Yeah. Then in fact
Adam Curry: that you put the wrong picture of the wrong
woman.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I used the wrong picture newsletter. It's a
long it's a picture of her at a distance. And they looked
similar from the, you know, 1000 feet away, but Well, I got I
got, I got butt slammed for doing that wrong picture.
Adam Curry: Well, at first, at first glance, I think we both
kind of like now, what is this woman going to do? Was she she's
going to run Chicago. Okay. Then I heard her talk. And this is on
the Chicago way podcast with the guy's name. John Cass is a good
show if you've if you're from Chicago, which have not. And he
asked her about the Chicago way and what she was going to do.
And I liked her answer. She may be extremely good for the city.
Talked about you define the Chicago way?
Unknown: What is the how you define it? Well, I
think of the Chicago way as this notion that you have to give to
get that it's it's understood that in order to actually get
access to basic city resources and services, you got to go
through this Kabuki dance with aldermen kiss the ring, make the
donation, on and on, hire the kid, on and on and on. That's
the old Chicago way. I think the new Chicago way that I'm trying
to forge is one where if you're a resident, and you're a
taxpayer, you're entitled to great services. Every watch, no
matter where you live, no matter your zip code, no matter who,
you know, you don't have to go through these extra steps to be
able to get access to basic city services. And and I think this
is a lesson from the Burke indictment. The city workers are
actually able to do their jobs without worrying about political
backlash, because they haven't pleased the local fiefdom and
the local Aldermen. That's the city that I government that I
aspire to, but I think we can get there. It's going to take
time, but I think we can get there.
Adam Curry: I don't know much about Chicago politics, but I
saw the series boss at one point with John Goodman, and all these
aldermen and these Council dudes and everything and she's going
to break that up. That seems like a pretty tall order.
John C. Dvorak: Well, it's well established. Dead resistance
would probably be quite high to it because people like it.
Chicago is Chicago away. I mean to Chicago away, but in a
nutshell is when you get pulled over for speeding. You hand over
your driver's license in a sealed in this little sealed
thing is like not just the license bear and in the back is
$100 bill. That still works. I believe so.
Adam Curry: I just flashed my PBA card from 1987. I found that
the other day.
John C. Dvorak: You are a professional
Adam Curry: bowler Yes. Right now the police Bunnell
Benevolent Association.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah, they would they would they would
laugh at you did. Let's just 100 day. Undo.
Adam Curry: Oh, curry. Wait, were you on MTV once? That's 200
years, bro. That's no good. So we'll go from one city to my two
other favorite cities. Let's hop off that Armageddon Cliff first.
San Francisco homeless have a new gambits, you
Unknown: know passing by these things. If you did not know to
look up, you probably wouldn't even notice that they were here.
But neighbors tell us that this all started right around
February when one of these tree houses went up. And then a
couple months later, now we're up to five or six of them. Hello
here in Fremont. ingenuity and desperation have brought us to
this. Half a dozen tree houses nestled high up into branches of
a row of eucalyptus trees in an industrial park, where they have
been for months. Getting into the structures is no simple
task. Some of them are three storeys high. This one has a
makeshift ladder, albeit with rungs sparsely attached,
climbing up is a lot like solving a puzzle. Once inside,
you get a better look at the craftsmanship. Whoever did it
likely has some experience that construction and access to power
drills across beams support beams underneath and support
straps above trash. There's a spot for that two. Neighbors
tell us they use scrap wood from nearby discarded pallets. The
result is remarkable. But it looks like They won't be here
for long. Cruz has spent the past few days trimming and
cutting off the lower limbs and they are closing it. I think
it's actually what people would benefit from if we have the
right knowledge of trees and whatnot.
Adam Curry: Now there's a typical Fremont resident
John C. Dvorak: tree. But yeah, let's start by mentioning
Fremont is not San Francisco.
Adam Curry: That's correct. I take that back. I take that
John C. Dvorak: less opportunity because not that many trees left
in San Francisco because of the human excrement has got too much
nitrogen and I
Adam Curry: love the treehouse idea though.
John C. Dvorak: Well, it's just a visit this the next step to
shanty town which is where we're headed.
Adam Curry: Well, that's my next clip. This is Los Angeles. And
it was fun to see Dr. Drew Pinsky. Show up and talk about
his fear, his fear for the city he lives in
Unknown: we have a complete breakdown of the basic needs of
civilization in Los Angeles. Right now. We have the three
prongs of airborne disease tuberculosis is exploding Roden
bore we are one of the only major cities in the country does
not have a rodent control program and sanitation has
broken down. We had a typhus outbreak last November we will
have a typhus outbreak this summer. I'm hearing from experts
that bubonic plague is likely it's already here, under the red
fleas. And then now finally we have this, this oral fecal route
contamination, which is typhoid fever, three cases one confirm,
probably three. This is unbelievable. I can't believe I
live in a city where this is not third world at Laura, this is
medieval third world countries are insulted if they are accused
of being like this. No one city on earth tolerate this, the
entire population is at risk, then God forbid of measles. This
is a population that sub optimally immunize the measles
gets in, I just have an image of myself on my knees in the gutter
attending to people because this is this summer is likely to be a
very profound problem. And there's a very bizarre thing
going on where the government is somehow insisting that housing
is the problem when in fact we have chronic mental illness we
have addiction we have people don't want to leave the streets.
They they literally won't take the housing if we give it to
them. And that's the population that's vulnerable and it's going
to get so Ill this summer. It scares me for their well being.
I listen, I've learned need your help. I want to to pierce their
shield of qualified immunity so we can go after them for
reckless negligence. This is disgusting. It is reckless
negligence, and we have to have a solution to this
Adam Curry: bubonic plague.
John C. Dvorak: Well, there seems to be some sort of
competition between Los Angeles and San Francisco never stops
its levels.
Adam Curry: They just they keep wanting to win, don't they?
John C. Dvorak: And I would say that Los Angeles has an edge
they have a I mean, it's they got divorced Brawley so they
have it's more like Fremont coincidently in terms of it's
the way it is is the city San Francisco's more centralized
more like an old fashioned place so it's just different but yeah,
I think LA is a disaster
Adam Curry: well California in general in that regard,
John C. Dvorak: Democrats run the place and this is the way
they operate they can't say no everybody's you know, oh god you
know you might insult the person no don't don't do not no no
don't no let him Let him drugs or okay I think that what I'm
shooting Yeah, no no, no don't shoot up the kid No, no. Okay.
Yeah can shoot just shoot yourself up
Adam Curry: with Dr. Wood Dr. Drew said is I prescribed to
that as I think we've talked about on the show is this the
government's in cities the same in Austin. Home we need
affordable housing homelessness now. You need to stop allowing
people to beg for money everywhere and do drugs publicly
in the in in the out in the open stop that first. This is a
lifestyle choice. It's it's not just homelessness or
unaffordable housing. It is complete lack of wanting to do
it that this is their life. And if you're on drugs, you know
your life looks pretty good. When you get your whatever you
need. Until it doesn't then you go stand on the corner get some
money, rinse repeat. But for some reason we can't bring
ourselves to look the facts in the face. I'm saying we here in
Austin
John C. Dvorak: because you've selected a bunch of Yeah,
douchebags. Totally which bag Democrat? Yes. No offense to the
Democrats at large. I listen to the show, but come on. The mayor
when you're gonna get a clue about this.
Adam Curry: Mayor Adler. Well, you know what, that's the
problem. People don't care. And it's the same that I saw in San
Francisco. I didn't see it in LA as much when I was there but San
Francisco. I stepped over the same three people coming out of
my apartment every single morning. I didn't like it at a
certain point like this is not okay. People have They don't
care anymore. They just don't care. They don't care. Do you
really care, John? I mean, seriously, you care? I don't
care. I care. I'm a caring guy. Yeah, but you don't you don't
care to do anything about it. You're not protesting,
John C. Dvorak: doing this podcast and that's something I
believe not forced. It's not much random kind of public
benefit podcasting show.
Unknown: Take that to the bank. Okay,
John C. Dvorak: public benefit podcast.
Adam Curry: That's you got it, where the C stands for caring.
John C. Dvorak.
John C. Dvorak: Exactly. So So bar William bar was on the
morning show,
Adam Curry: I'm glad you got some clips from this because he
said a lot of different things. And I'm i My eyes are just
glazed over because we know it's a sideshow we know it's is
John C. Dvorak: a questioners antagonistic. Nobody and CBS
likes bar, but I got two clips. One of them's a little long, but
the other one which is shorter is interesting, but let's play
the long one, which is the this bar on the show. He says a few
things that are very straightforward. I admire this
guy.
Unknown: In an exclusive CBS News interview Attorney General
William Barr highlights why he opened an investigation to the
origins of Russia investigation. Barr says there is evidence it
makes him believe that senior government officials may have
acted improperly to authorize surveillance of President
Trump's 2016 campaign. And he says that led to the spying on
the campaign.
Critics say Barr is being too loyal to the president Jan
Crawford is in Anchorage, Alaska, traveling with the
Attorney General Jan, how is Barr responding to complaints
about his work?
Well, the Attorney General, he wouldn't really talk specifics
about what he is seeing that led him to open that investigation.
But he said he is not swayed by criticism. And he won't back off
doing what he thinks is right. You're only the second attorney
general in history who served twice. I think the first one was
back in 1850. Right? You're an establishment figure in a way
you've had a long career in Washington, but you're working
for a man who's not establishment, and some of his
tweets about officials and the rule of law. How do you react
when you see those? Are you on Twitter? Do you read his tweets?
No,
I'm not on Twitter. What every once in a while a tweet is
brought to my attention. But my experience with the president is
we have a good professional working relationship, we talk to
each other. And if he has something to say to me, I figure
he'll tell me directly. I don't look to tweets for I don't look
at them as directives or as official communications with
with the department.
But when you came into this job, I mean, you had a good
reputation on the right. And on the left. You're now someone who
is, you know, accused of protecting the president and
enabling the president lying to Congress. Did you expect that
coming in? Well, in
a way, I did expect it because yeah, because I realized we live
in a crazy hyper partisan period of time. And I knew that it
would only be a matter of time, if I was behaving responsibly,
and calling him as I see him, that I'd be attacked, because
nowadays people don't care about the merits of the substance.
They only care about who it helps, you know, who benefits
whether my side benefits or the other side benefits, everything
is gauged by politics. And as I say that's antithetical to the
way the department runs, and any attorney general in this period
is going to end up losing a lot of political capital. And I
realized that and that's one of the reasons that I ultimately
was persuaded that maybe I should take it on because I
think at my stage in life, it really doesn't make any
difference to your career, or I'm at the end of my career.
I've you know,
it's a reputation that you've worked your whole life on now.
Yeah, but
everyone dies. And I'm not I don't believe in the Homeric
idea that you know, immortality comes by, you know, having odes
on the over the centuries, you know, so
you don't regret taking the job. No,
Adam Curry: what's interesting, I love this guy, everybody dies.
I just want to give you a rundown on on our hero Muller.
Just so people get a little put it into perspective. What he
what he will take to the grave. He kept four innocent men in
jail for years one in fact for 35 years to protect Whitey bolt
Bulger, Bolger Bolger. For years, he kept them in jail.
This was in Boston, I guess. 911 happened on his watch, he
bungled the anthrax case. The guy who was blamed what what?
One guy killed himself. And then we had Steven hatfill, he wound
up suing the government paid millions in compensation. A key
in the Boston, the Boston bombing, framing Ted Stevens. I
mean, the Boston bombing. The Russians told us, there's
something going to happen there. And this is when he was all FBI
John C. Dvorak: did Ted Stevens was framed. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The
senator from Alaska told him that killed.
Adam Curry: Yeah, totally. Mahler is a failure. Failure.
No.
John C. Dvorak: Until? Well, depends on your perspective.
Adam Curry: This is a good point. He's either baton 1000.
John C. Dvorak: The way I see it,
Adam Curry: I think you're right. I take that back. Wow,
that guy's good.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I'm talking about being a screw up.
Let's listen to part two of this bar clip. Jan,
Unknown: what did the Attorney General tell you about why he
decided to summarize the special counsels report rather than
release it when he first received it? Well, I
mean, that was some news there. I was surprised by some things
he talked about, on that as well. I mean, that was not the
plan. He had asked the special counsel's office over a period
of weeks and was led to believe that the special Counsels Office
was working to identify that sensitive Grand Jury material
that could not be released by law to the public or to
Congress. So he expected the report when he got it from the
Special Counsel to have that material identified so that he
could quickly turn it around and release it pretty much in its
entirety. When they got the report at the Department of
Justice. None of that material was identified, to his surprise,
but he said the public wouldn't wait weeks while they figured
out what that was. He had to get something out quickly. People
were camping out at the Justice Department, the media,
intelligence officials were wildly speculating, as he put so
he released that summary. He said it was never intended to go
in the nooks and crannies of the report, while they work to
identify that grand jury information. But that was not
the plan. And if he'd gotten what he thought he was getting
from the outset, that four page summary wouldn't have been
necessary.
John C. Dvorak: It's true. That was interesting. And it's true.
Anyway, so he was like, there's another Mueller. Black mark, or
not
Unknown: or not perspective,
Adam Curry: the Bilderberg conference should be wrapping up
after a weekend of festivities at Montreux. Right on the leg
there with the Smoke on the Water. And, of course, we
identified that Stacey Abrams, is in attendance this year. Yes.
And you we we discussed why. And although we perceive this to be
generally a drinking club, I do want to remind us that a 1975
there was, of course, a Bilderberg meeting. And there
was an unknown pretty much unknown governor from Georgia
who showed up and the next year he became president and that was
Jimmy Carter and he was at the time invited the to the
Bilderberg conference. So the parallels are interesting to
have Georgia. Yeah, Bilderberg election next year. Still think
it's possible. That's some crazy way they're gonna try it on
Stacey Abrams. I know you don't buy it. I know you don't buy it.
I'm not even close to it. How much worse? Could it be than
JILA brand? I mean, yeah, it's like legitimate brands
John C. Dvorak: as is, I think is a red herring. And along with
the other single issue, people as we could play me, I think
it's very much well explained here. I still have this theory
and play it again. THE MARK SHIELDS clip where he explains
this in great detail, but Jill Abram and maybe you shouldn't
No, no, I think good clips from him.
Adam Curry: I like the whole single issue voter as a test. I
think I think that makes sense. Do you have a
John C. Dvorak: quick few No, no, that Abrams has any issues
or even is being considered it may it could be the 2020 thing.
It's possible just to run against Gavin Newsom.
Adam Curry: You know, she's listened. All I know is the
former New York banker sat me down and made a big deal about
her. And how incredibly intellectual she is and
intelligent and that may be true. I read her stuff in
Council on Foreign Relations magazine. I'm like, okay, a lot
of pretty words there. What are you really saying? Oh, please,
I'd love to have her in the fray. Are you kidding? We do the
show. This is great.
John C. Dvorak: It would be but it's not happening. Hillary a
Adam Curry: girl can hope. little update on MH 17 This was
the plane flying from Schiphol in the Netherlands. shot down
over Ukraine ain a lot of fuzziness in the reporting. Of
course, we've been following this for several years. Now
because I speak the language and the Dutch have not really
released a comprehensive report that anyone was happy with that
really pointed the finger at anybody other than the Russians.
We have the open source reporting group belling cat who
would prove Oh, it's the Russians, the Russians and the
Russians. Now we have the Prime Minister of Malaysia, giving his
final word and what he feels about the affair
Unknown: Malaysia's prime minister has called into
question the findings of the Dutch led investigation into the
dawning of Flight MH 17 over Ukraine in 2014. Mahathir
Mohamad says the international inquiry which alleged that
Russia was complicit in the atrocity was politicized and has
not found enough evidence to support its conclusions. He also
claimed Malaysia has not been allowed to inspect the planes
black boxes,
they are accusing Russians of firing the missiles but what is
the evidence you could even be the Ukrainian government because
they do have the same missile
five years of past but it's only seems like it happened
yesterday. You know, I was there one of the first reporters on
the scene so we have the Malaysian prime minister who
says Malaysia accepts the results of the investigation
however they accepted to certain points they accept that the
plane was brought down by Russian missile but as to who
that statement is, that has not been concluded and this is what
Malaysia has a problem with at the moment.
Adam Curry: No, there you go. To reiterate, you
John C. Dvorak: know, I wonder I wonder if you even remember your
original thesis on this which I think was the most one of the
most profound things ever discussed on the no agenda show.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. It was a mistake Wasn't it a plane
following another plane? They say they flipped off the radar.
Ai please help me please help me I need help because I can't even
remember
John C. Dvorak: my own I noticed that a few weeks earlier was Yes
yes.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the GPS got turned off the
John C. Dvorak: test system wide test of this turning off the GPS
for some no particular reason but it was some sort of test and
then this event occurred some weeks later under similar
circumstances and it was the idea was to was to identify that
look like one plant with there's a there was a closely follow a
Ukrainian justice theory was closely follow him and then they
shut down this the air traffic control system long enough for
him to shoot the plane and then jump off into some other area
yes, if we should if we could dig up the old shoe Yeah, I'm
gonna and I thought it was an incredibly creative explanation
for what could have actually happened because they have not
proven anything. And these these this whole investigation is a
scam. And they won't give you the boxes over to the people
will own the boxes. It's just ridiculous. Everything spells
cover up.
Adam Curry: And also the victims and the families they have no
closure. Just no closure. Because I'm pretty sure that it
wasn't the Russians. Yeah, it was a boot missile. But this
could have been launched by multiple parties. If they really
really could have I don't know I will look that one up again. I
do need to refresh my memory on that. But you're right that
test. It blipped everything and then I think there was also we
looked at the at the flight ceiling the operational ceiling
of one of the Ukrainian fighters fighter jets. Wow man that you
caught me off guard there. I'm gonna have to work on that. I
will bring that back.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, go back and find that episode. I think
we can do that now. Sure. We have enough resources. I'm sure
we can define things in these episodes.
Adam Curry: Well one more thing. Regarding Russia this is also a
Russia Today clip the new Call of Duty game is on its way
apparently. I would know I'm not a gamer. But here's what you can
expect. It's
Unknown: back in a big way. Now after years of falling sales and
irrelevance Call of Duty is going back to its roots. It'll
be more shocking more morally ambiguous than ever before with
Russians so evil you wouldn't believe mild.
Surprise Russian Su 25 jet there it is. Apparently bombing
civilians and the next. White Helmets. The rescue whales
serious jihadist rebels as seen helping injured civilians out of
rubble, just like in their real life propaganda reels.
Adam Curry: I guess they couldn't change the script
anymore. Takes a lot of work to change a video game like, hey,
we'll have the White Helmets there'll be the good guys.
Unless maybe we get to play the game and then we learned that
they actually aren't that would be cool.
John C. Dvorak: Unlikely. Yeah, it's a good game. I have played
it. Definitely not the new one. If you played the new one. If
you like shooting, you gave us fun. What?
Adam Curry: Do you haven't played the new one though? Is
that out yet? Is that Oh, no,
John C. Dvorak: I don't play the new one. I played the old one.
Two different versions of the old one. But it's just fun. You
get to shoot it. People all over the place. Read the Red Dead
Redemption, wherever it is to that one that's out now. It's
actually one of the best games I've seen.
Adam Curry: guys play. I played that for four minutes. I'm like,
Okay,
John C. Dvorak: you weren't shooting enough people. If look,
if I want
Adam Curry: to have fun, I've gotten a punch an old lady in
the face in real life. You know what your video cost
John C. Dvorak: and you won't get away with it. I have one
last clip we can play or not play. It's it's interesting. And
it's but it's and it's also a message worth listening to for
people that have bad habits. This guy is a ghost kind of a
science geek that's called he calls himself very potassium.
And he does these science reports and he decided to go
find the most radioactive places in the world. Oh, please tell me
he
Adam Curry: went to Chernobyl. Yeah, of course and to
Fukushima. Yeah, you went there to let me guess what not that
bad. It
John C. Dvorak: was bad and not bad here. And there you find the
most the worst place was a basement in Russia where they
were treating all the the poor firemen who went into the
stupidly went into the doors were demanded to go into the
Chernobyl. Oh, yeah, thing that was not good. But this is kind
of interesting, just kind of the wrap on on on the wrap on how
much radiation you can take it in a daily basis. And it's kind
of interesting, that basement
Unknown: was the most radioactive place I visited, and
it's one of the most radioactive places on earth. If I'd stayed
down there for one hour, I would have received 2000 Micro Severs.
That's a year's worth of natural background radiation. Every
yellow pixel here represents a banana. Now that might seem like
a lot, but consider that in a CT scan, the patient receives about
7000 Micro sieverts. That's three years worth of natural
background radiation. It's been estimated that the people living
around Fukushima will receive an additional 10,000 Micro sieverts
over their lifetime due to the nuclear power disaster. For
comparison, US radiation workers are limited to a maximum of
50,000 Micro sieverts per year, but that's less than another
occupation. Astronaut. An astronaut on the space station
for six months, we receive about 80,000 Micro sieverts worth of
radiation, but not even they are exposed to the highest levels of
ionizing radiation. So can you guess who is? The answer is a
smoker's lungs on average receive 160,000 Micro severs
were the radiation every year, that's due to the radioactive
polonium and radioactive lead in the tobacco that they're
smoking. So not only are they exposed to carcinogens and
toxins, they also receive very high levels of radiation. So
it's not the people of Fukushima or Chernobyl or radiation
workers or even astronauts who receive the highest doses of
ionizing radiation. That honor goes to your ordinary average
smoker sucking in sick.
Adam Curry: Well, thanks, John. I'm thoroughly depressed now.
John C. Dvorak: I just thought it was a public service me Yes.
Or now? Yes. I'm calling ourselves the new public benefit
podcast.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. It requires a vow of poverty. But man, do we
do good for the public? Now they need to update that with some
vaping statistics. I'm sure the battery doesn't do much for your
radiation either. But that we'll have to wait until Thursday show
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a nice look out. becomes a needle man. Is it safe? Listen,
dude, don't ask questions or you're not according to the
Supreme Court. Look out. You come to me the man in charge is
expecting mothers to get the flu vaccine. younger users outbreak
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concern from coast to coast.
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John C. Dvorak: nine, nine minutes. For Muller nothing
here.
Unknown: No one has told me whether I can or should testify
or speak further about this man all thing is a scam. There were
multiple systematic efforts to interfere in our election. He
wasn't he wasn't happy with what I did. And I don't blame him but
I had to do it because that was the right thing to do. Every
defendant is presumed
innocent unless alleged to be involved in some type of
criminal activity and from them we conclude that we would would
not reach a determination one way or the other about whether
the President committed a crime using
that word to me it's a dirty word. The word impeach is a
dirty filthy disgusting word. And it had nothing to do with
me.
I do not believe it is appropriate for me to speak
further about the investigation or to comment on the actions of
the Justice Department or Congress
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elected
everybody's talking about the sweaty pale monkey and saw him
from a tree and he's moving like a duck you got to see guys used
to hustle get the dough rain never seen nothing like you've
done before. He's a moving violation breaking in your back
door. What you don't know what you don't think mouse and Viki
got bills to pay the real hot and he's trying to sell the
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knows where you're going, it knows where you're checking how
you're never too close and never too far. Open up your webcam.
There you are, knowing how you're watching every kiss
saying happy birthday that he'll never ever miss Jesus
Zuckerberg. Started Facebook,
I run it, and I'm responsible for what happens here. It's not
enough to just connect people. We have to make sure that those
connections are positive. It's not enough to just give people a
voice. We need to make sure that people aren't using it to harm
other people or to spread misinformation. It's an not
enough to just give people control over their information.
We need to make sure that the developers they share it with
protect their information to it will take some time to work
through all the changes we need to make across the company. But
I'm committed to getting this right. Oppo
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