Adam Curry: We're gonna turn into a Drive
Adam curry, John C Devorah. And Sunday May 26 2019. This is your
award winning get my nation media assassination episode
1141.
Unknown: This is no agenda,
Adam Curry: celebrating one week of wedding bliss and
broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas
Capitol, the drone Star State in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where
we're awaiting 1999 Kw for Hello, boys. I'm John Cena.
Raglan buzzkill
Adam Curry: I know I'm missing some cultural reference.
John C. Dvorak: No, you're missing the fact that an
asteroid with a moon slink flinging? An asteroid that's
shaped like a spinning top? Uh huh. And a little bitty moon
going around it? Is that headed by? Is
Adam Curry: it headed towards us? Is it going to slam into us
John C. Dvorak: now? Now? I think our gravitational pull
though it at least jerk that moon out of orbit?
Adam Curry: How far away? Is it?
John C. Dvorak: I don't know. I have no idea what
Adam Curry: hit any space junk.
John C. Dvorak: It's not that close. Space junk is pretty
close to her. In the scheme of things pretty close to the
surface.
Adam Curry: Oh, it totally. You know, I was looking up because
of this 2020 For what first woman on the first woman next
man on the moon mission. And first of all, well, first of all
the NASA exec quit just a few weeks after he was appointed
because apparently you know the budget is not not what you
thinks it should be or your marks or Angelo was tapped into.
John C. Dvorak: They just spend so much money wasting it on
global warming studies. Well, so more money.
Adam Curry: So here's here's my here's what I've been looking
at. The main thing people say why we haven't been to the moon
since the 60s and 70s. Essentially 50 years ago, for
the first time is a cost issue. This is what I keep hearing
everyone's say, Well, can we really we pull out all the
stops, which just we've poured all the money we had into it,
and we made it to the moon. So the total cost of the entire
Apollo program, which includes all of the rockets, every all
six missions that landed on the moon was $25.4 billion, as
reported to Congress in 1973. Yeah, adjusted for inflation,
that would be $150 billion today.
John C. Dvorak: So I don't believe that number. I believe
that number be closer to 50. You have to you're using the bogus
inflation numbers that the government had been doing. This
is the real Hold
Adam Curry: on, hold on. Hold on, just before you get into
that. So 250 million, that's fine. billion, billion divided
by six is $41 billion for one mission to go to the moon.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Well, it seems affordable.
Adam Curry: Well, right now NASA has a total budget of about 20
billion with some bullcrap extra. Well, let's give them
another billion to take him to the moon. Are we serious about
this or not? How much is it really going to cost? Do we not
want to put 50 billion 50 billion? Well, there's no 50
billion being spent so I don't see how it'll ever happen.
John C. Dvorak: You think the whole thing's just a public
relations scam?
Adam Curry: Oh, I can't wait until I was 2024. Can't come
fast enough for me to laugh my ass off.
John C. Dvorak: Wow. holds a grudge.
Adam Curry: But I mean, is this real? Or is this is it?
John C. Dvorak: The old fart up? Brocken
Unknown: yelling at the sky? Yelling at this guy. I knew you
guys
John C. Dvorak: promised the moon you can deliver nothing.
Adam Curry: Uh huh. Okay, I just don't I can't take it seriously,
if we're not going to put up the right amount of money. Well,
then, I don't take it seriously anyway. Well, this is a fact.
Hey, I gotta take
John C. Dvorak: somebody right up to the story of the Saturn
five rocket. That's the thing that got if we went to the moon,
that's how we got there. We don't even have a rocket as half
that size.
Adam Curry: Doesn't seem like such a big deal. Why is it so
hard to just build a bigger rocket?
John C. Dvorak: I don't know why they haven't built another
Saturn five. That was the biggest rocket we've ever built
these things just sighs the Empire State Building. It's a
huge really isn't that tall as crazy? No, it's not that tall.
But that would be kind of cool, don't you think?
Adam Curry: Well, okay, more misinformation. Dvorak. You're
not helping. confusing me. Ah, I just want to mention one thing.
And maybe you've had this moment. But we were reviewing
some of the pictures and videos mainly videos from the wedding
extravaganza of the century. And I have to say With sadness and
disappointment that I really believe I'm a better dancer than
I am. Holy crap out there I look complete I'm just gonna have to
say it I look retarded is horrible and I'm thinking like
yeah, maybe I am nailing this here everybody and I looked like
a like a like one of those things outside of the secondhand
car dealership those inflatable that it was praying mantis arms
all over the place is horrible. Horrible. Oh, I really thought I
was better than that.
John C. Dvorak: Well, apparently you are mistaken you are leading
yourself
Adam Curry: so so I had to do something to make myself feel
good and I spent the past year race to video. I wish no I spent
the past two days doing something I promise for many
years and I finally got it together. Zumba close. Pod
father gear.com I finally documented it wrote it all up
exported all my settings pod father gear.com You can and it's
all there you can see what I use my own configuration files you
can install them get everything up and running with my baseline
shows exactly which widgets and and boxes I use. Released under
the value for value model of course.
John C. Dvorak: Well let's stop immediately here and the value
if you value Mel's, get a pays zero nothing is not running a
bunch of cheap crap.
Adam Curry: No, well, no, it's not cheap, but it's not crazy
expensive either.
John C. Dvorak: Close to it for most podcasters.
Adam Curry: The main box is $595. And you can get quite away
with with that. I mean, you'd still
John C. Dvorak: get it by the plugins. No, no, no, no. Market
A unicorn you were talking about Mark
Adam Curry: of the Unicorn has the compressor limiter EQ all of
that built in, you'd need no extra no extra stuff. So I'm
basically on a on a bare bones box. I'm running barefoot John.
John C. Dvorak: You almost sound like Alex Jones doing that.
Adam Curry: It was my CB trucker.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Anyway, Alex Jones, same thing.
Adam Curry: Anyway. So I put it all up there. And hopefully, and
I also realized that as I'm putting that up there, like I
could probably make a good sound on any device, I think about
just with the right amount of time. And, and to be fair with
the right partner who is incredibly consistent and
doesn't mind counting to 100. As often as I asked him to,
John C. Dvorak: you can say that but the other side of it is
you're not going to do that a for sure do what to produce to
try to try to make good sound on anything because your real goal
is to make the whole thing so portable that you can go travel
with that needs. Exactly. I do that with just anything you can
do a true bunch of big boxes
Adam Curry: after this exercise and I'm kind of looking around
like I wonder what other is it any new boxes out there? I'm
just looking at stuff like I could probably make it work with
that I couldn't make it work with their all this nothing is
cheaper. Nothing is is geared towards podcasters. But now at
least people have a little example of how I do it.
John C. Dvorak: Felt good. Horror wishes is the dreaded
road caster. And he blew up his files blew up.
Adam Curry: Oh, what happens? You hear about No, no, no, no. I
mean, he's he sends me stuff all the time. We discussed the sound
and I'll ask him what he's doing. And you know, there's
sometimes it's better than others. But he didn't tell me
about the files blowing up.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, couple. The first time he used a
broadcaster, he had to use the backup files because the road
caster didn't blow up the whole file by a trash the end of the
file. Oh, so they had some sort of an elf problem.
Adam Curry: So you had to pull it from tape. Ah,
John C. Dvorak: that's pulling from tape. On the back,
incidentally, I had recorded it using the recording capabilities
of Skype. And unbeknownst to me, it automatically sends him the
file. Pa.
Adam Curry: I didn't know you can do that with Skype. Do what
record is that stock now with Skype, it would appear to start
recording. Wow, look at that. Start Recording. It's right in
there. Yeah. Ah,
John C. Dvorak: let's say you're arguing me with me the other day
that it was always there. Start Recording. Let me see what
happened then when you did at least this case, when it's done
he gets the file gets shipped to him, I guess is maybe some sort
of courtesy.
Adam Curry: So I just record a little bit and then finalizing
so they'll probably send that to you now. Interesting. I had no
idea Well, well, this Skype guys aren't stupid and it is part of
my standard setup. I even show how to configure it. Hey,
Anyway, so that made me feel much better about my, my
extremely white boy dancing. It's not that I look like an old
man I thought I thought it was
John C. Dvorak: you don't have the video available to me. I
have no idea,
Adam Curry: John. Don't worry, I wouldn't want to you know,
John C. Dvorak: did you do the conga well without looking like
an old fart
Adam Curry: we I forgot to mention that Andrew Horowitz and
his wife started a conga line. The wedding I have to say that
was from
John C. Dvorak: one to many crews. That was fantastic.
Adam Curry: Things I'd never expected things I never expected
at my wedding, a conga line. And then he's like, Hey, we're gonna
do soltrain Now.
John C. Dvorak: Given a big kick, the DJ.
Adam Curry: Job and the DJ, the only black guy at the wedding
was like raising his eyebrows. Are you doing sold right? Okay.
Anyway, Hey,
John C. Dvorak: Teresa May quit. Let's start with that.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that was pretty interesting. You have the
last tears.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I got the end of the talk. She could she
talked for about 10 minutes. It made it sound like she was
bawling all the way through. She just cracked at the end. Yes, at
the end, she finally folded and she wandered off and they have
all these pictures of her that floating around. I had one in
the newsletter of her just making a kind of a sorrowful
face. And of course, the media where she cried her way through
it. You know, they go on and on. British media hated her. For
some reason. Yeah, but the British lady this
Adam Curry: week about the British public hates her. I will
Unknown: shortly leave the job that it has been the honor of my
life to hold the second female prime minister,
Adam Curry: I'm calling bullshit here. DeVore I think you slowed
this down to make yourself more emotional.
Unknown: But certainly not the last. I do so with no ill will.
But with enormous and enduring gratitude, to have had the
opportunity to serve the country I love.
Adam Curry: pulled that as an ISO, just the country I love.
Actually, mine does sound a bit faster than yours. You hear
that?
John C. Dvorak: And maybe it is interesting by much.
Adam Curry: But that just kind of showed that
John C. Dvorak: mine ended though you'd love to get to the
end because I definitely boosted the clip. clop clip clop as she
left,
Adam Curry: oh no, I cut that off of the of the ISO. I have it
in my clip. But it was so what this really showed is for two
seconds for a moment there. The reptilian gene slunk away and it
was a human being who cared about something it sadly was
herself. And that's I think what the British public took that
took what was the word I'm looking for took offense to
they're like, Well, now you cry. Now you got a problem. Maybe,
but it wasn't, it wasn't
John C. Dvorak: like we didn't expect to state and pass first
rebuke of her idea how to get out of the EU now what happens?
Adam Curry: Oh, Joe,
John C. Dvorak: I don't think so. I think it's gonna be I
think is gov. This guy. Gov. Gov. Gov. He's gonna be the guy
he's gonna get in. He's a Brexit guy. Probably a little more of
the hell with it. Let's just get out. Wish I think Boris Johnson
would be like that to to some extent.
Adam Curry: Of course he would. That's, that's that's what he's
all about.
John C. Dvorak: There's never been any reason to do these
deals. You got WTO as your as your backup, right?
Adam Curry: Okay, so who's this guy? Gov I mean, now and now I
need to know you can't just play a clip of Theresa May and then
say I think it's gonna be someone else.
John C. Dvorak: was gonna be someone else no matter who and
right but
Adam Curry: I expected more.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, well.
Adam Curry: You don't have you don't have it. Okay,
John C. Dvorak: I don't have it in front of me. No, because it
wasn't I shouldn't have said anything. But he's the guy he's
been around. He's been floating around. He's like one of the
he's like Reese MOG, that guy who's also there to very old
fashioned British or talks you know, very slowly and
deliberately and they know a lot of understatement, right? And
this is one of the two guys this gov character.
Adam Curry: Well, what will be interesting to see later today
is all the returns of the European Parliament elections to
see how the Brexit party did. That's Faraj as EU party. Yeah,
I think that may even matter. Little bit more now, who cares
who comes in in Britain, they have no intention of Brexit no
matter who it is, don't care if it's Boris Johnson, they have no
intention of doing that. people's vote do over you did it
wrong, do it again, the
John C. Dvorak: bankers in London, they feel that it's
better off, everything's better off with things the way they are
with this connection to the EU. And they can be the little
banking community, a little Switzerland in the middle of the
middle of the UK, doing their thing and cleaning up on on
service fees.
Adam Curry: And the expectation is that a lot of populist slash
nationalist leaders and parties will gain a foothold in the
European Parliament didn't turn out that way. And then although
it was an interesting and good result for a very young party,
there's the F VD, the Forum for Democracy party, which is right
wing but distanced themselves from from a feared builders
party and he so he would be right Right, right wing, and
they're like kind of right wing. But they came in third. So they
do get a couple of seats in European Parliament, but it was
the Workers Party, the party of the workers PvdA with our boy,
upfront, who would be this about Holland? Yes. Yes. Yeah. The
Spitz and Kenny dots that would be my, my globalist buddy,
France. Timmermans. So there's, he has he has a really good
shot. Juncker, who's exiting the position, did an interview with
I think it was CNN International. And he was asked
about this very issue. What do you think about the populace,
the nationalists who are rising all over Europe, and his
response went noted by many
these populist nationalist stupid nationalists. They are in
love with the old country. Yeah. Oh, and they don't like the
others. In some countries of the European Union, the government
Parliament's a major part of the society society. Don't like
those coming from far away. I do like those come from coming from
far away. Because the main guiding principle of the
European units would be solidarity.
They are stupid. They love their own countries.
John C. Dvorak: What is this makes no sense it was like a non
sequitur like those who come from far away because it's about
unity What are ways that unity
Adam Curry: well if you're a globalist it is like oh, yeah,
Unity Yeah, now we're talking but those who who love their own
country they stupid doesn't that just say enough right there?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, pretty much sums it up.
Adam Curry: How stupid are you that you love your own country?
Mercy that again, these populist nationalist stupid nationalists.
They are in love with the old country. It's crazy.
In love with their own country. Why do you do this? This is not
good. Divan too loved in the European Union. Good luck with
that.
John C. Dvorak: Well, it's always been a fool's errand.
Yes. To a certain degree for sure.
Adam Curry: For sure. Um, let me see when there is stuff going
on. I don't know exactly where to start
John C. Dvorak: talking about my speeds being off. Yeah. So I had
some issues with my browser I fixed it with your browser
before they fixed it. I had stuff that sounds like this play
squeaky judicious Judith Woodward on on the news our
squeaky Judy 201
Adam Curry: or two two to play two.
Unknown: Now we turn to the analysis of Shields and Brooks
That is syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times
columnist David Brooks.
John C. Dvorak: Now you play squeaky Brooks person
Adam Curry: squeaky Brooks on confusing me here.
If when I look at some of these candidates I'm you
know I heard this with with your previous clip. It sounds like a
doubling or something. There's something weird
John C. Dvorak: if when I look at slots, candidates, I'm first
struck by how the self esteem movement was actually very
effective.
Adam Curry: Sounds like you're recording it twice like it's
going through. It's almost phasing
Unknown: but I look at the presidency. I've interviewed a
lot of presidents
Adam Curry: are you is this an effect you're doing to make sure
you
John C. Dvorak: I know what happened. It's just don't worry
about it's never gonna happen again.
Adam Curry: Well, okay, this is interesting, though, that this
happened to you. Because this was one of the most to me very
interesting Ministry of truthiness exercises that we
went through with this doctored video.
John C. Dvorak: Before we play that you did you get to the I
think I have did I get I don't think I have a copy of it. I
watched it last night. I have the I do have this to play. I
have the event at which Pelosi was on On, she was at some some
progressive deal. And she asked me where my Pelosi Trump walked
out.
Adam Curry: I mean, I have the clip that you're talking about.
So I have all this, I
John C. Dvorak: suppose Pelosi at progressives events is the
clip I'm talking about. Okay. And this is the actual feed from
the event. Ad at regular speed. And she sounds terrible. I mean,
the word Yeah, they slow it away down and make her sound drunk.
But they used to do that with George, whoa, hold
Adam Curry: on, hold on, stop, stop, stop, no, stop, stop. You
go. You're going way, way ahead of what's happening here. All
right, first, that I'm okay. I'm just going to keep your clip
there. I think it's long I see. So I just want to make sure that
we get to the actual first the genesis of what happened.
Because there was the back and forth between Trump and Pelosi,
which started with Pelosi. And let me see, the one that I want
here is you've confused me I was so Oh, here we go. Yes, this is
the back and forth.
This thing keeps escalating in a brawl of words after the
infrastructure meeting imploded yesterday. And the President
said, basically, Call me when you're done investigating, and
then we will get some work done. Nancy Pelosi did not like that.
So she called him basically, on Well,
Unknown: I pray for the President of the United States.
I wish that his family or his administration or his staff
would have an intervention for the good of the country. Prayer
comments, almost suggest you're concerned about his well being I
am.
So the President was not happy about that ever. The counter
puncher late today, he led her habit over the inaction on the
new trade deal with Mexico and Canada, that he very much wants
to get signed.
John C. Dvorak: She's a mess. Look, let's face it, she doesn't
understand it. And they sort of feel she's disintegrating before
the Russian crazy. Nancy, I tell you what I've been watching her
and I have I have been watching her for a long period of time.
She's not the same person. She's lost it. It was sad when I
watched Nancy all moving the movement in the hands and the
craziness. And I watch it. That's by the way, a person
that's got some problems.
Adam Curry: Okay, so this was the genesis of the back and
forth. And then the president tweeted out this video, we had a
little
John C. Dvorak: long on the floor to take custody of the
border and border, everyone is started making sending signals.
The US Mexico, Canada, if that's not the accurate character, some
people call it after NAFTA, some call it NAFTA 2.0. We're working
together to make pass that not with the three things, the three
things, the three things, very busy people.
Adam Curry: That was the exact video that I got it from his
tweet that Trump tweeted out, that was not slow down. And the
reason why the three things, three things, three things was
repeated because she keeps holding up two fingers when she
says three things. So it made her look very stupid. It was
edited of her a bumbling and stumbling, but it was not slowed
down. But this is what interests me is that the team Pelosi or
whatever bugle call goes out immediately. Oh, she looks like
she has medical issues. And this distraction was created. And I'm
not quite sure how you know how maybe Rudy Giuliani had to do
this to do something. But then then the then the for a little
while there for maybe an hour or two, Trump tweeted out a fake
video doctored video and then when they realized that it
wasn't this slow down video, I have the example here from NBC
Unknown: about the impact that altered videos could have on the
next election after a manipulated video of how Speaker
Nancy Pelosi went viral. And after the president retweeted
another heavily edited video and you see
Adam Curry: this fantastically done. Oh my god. She looks like
she's like she's she's dying. She is Ruth. It's not a good
video. It's not a good look. It's not a good sound. They
bring in some other video that was not even in play at all.
John C. Dvorak: Yes,
Unknown: the Speaker of the House. Tom Costello has that
story.
One day after that bitter and personal clash, both President
Trump and Speaker Pelosi were today dialing it down. But
tonight this video edited to make Pelosi appear as if she
were slurring her words has gone viral, raising serious concerns.
Adam Curry: Okay, then they bring in experts on this thing.
So now that what Trump has tweeted is already behind us
although Trump Orange Man bad. He tweeted out a doctored video.
It's doctored. It used to be heavily edited now it's
doctored. It's been doctored
John C. Dvorak: rated, they combined the two items purposely
and made it look as though Trump sent out the copies of the WANs.
Talk and slow. And by the way, I want to stop right now and
mention they did this to Bush constantly. Of course they did,
Adam Curry: of course, but that and that's what I'm seeing here
is complicit behavior. Where not once have you seen the video on
mainstream that Trump tweeted out, instead, you get stories
like this,
Unknown: we want to show you this video. First, we're going
to show you the real video of Nancy Pelosi speaking a couple
of days ago, and then we're going to show you the fake one
which has been slowed down the audio slowdowns make it appear
as if Speaker Pelosi has been slurring her words.
John C. Dvorak: And then he had a press conference in the Rose
Garden with all this short sort of visuals that obviously were
planned long before and then he had a press conference in the
Rose Garden with all this short sort of visuals that obviously
were planned long before
Unknown: so you can hear that edit there. You know, when you
see it side by side, it might seem obvious, but when you
encounter this on your Facebook newsfeed as a standalone, it
might not seem as obvious. And look, you know, Donald Trump
videos, hoaxes online is very obvious or as old as the
internet itself. What is unprecedented though, is social
media gives people the ability to put a fake video out there
and have a quickly viewed by millions of people. This video
has been removed from YouTube, they said that it broke their
policies that it is misleading. Facebook, on the other hand, the
video is still up there. They essentially says it doesn't
break their rules that they are having fact checkers take a look
at it. But just a few minutes ago, I checked online one
version of the video on Facebook has been viewed almost two and a
half million times. Twitter. The President's favorite social
media platform had nothing to say about this video, which is
still circulating on their platform this morning,
Tony, I think it is really incumbent upon us to educate
how, Fred how they're doctored
John C. Dvorak: for Yeah,
Unknown: I see a million things like this. Yes,
Adam Curry: yes, that's our job. We're here to inform you
citizens that you need to look out for these doctored videos.
But the video that that it started with is not even played
anymore. Now. It's just gone into this complete stratosphere.
And by the way, YouTube took it off. YouTube took the video
down. Facebook didn't this was a problem for CIA Mockingbird.
Anderson Cooper. He just could not believe what was happening.
And I got two clips. I'm so happy he spent nine minutes with
a spokes hole from face bag. Why they weren't and we're already
beyond the video Trump tweeted out this is now something away.
John C. Dvorak: By the way. The the meat it was a meme
characterization that Trump refused to take the video down
implying it was this video.
Adam Curry: Exactly. And you know, I don't know who made who
made this slow down video. i The only place I've seen it is NBC,
NBC and CNN. I think they made it they made it listen to pooper
with what's her name here. This is the this is Vice President,
Vice President of Product policy and counter terraces
counterterrorism Monica Bay, counter terror Facebook
counterterrorism with Anderson Cooper.
John C. Dvorak: So Monica in the wake of the 2016 election
obviously Facebook has repeatedly told Congress the
American people that you're serious about fighting
disinformation and fake news yet this doctrine video your own
fact checkers acknowledges doctored of Speaker Pelosi
remains on your platform.
Adam Curry: This word doctored it's never it was always
deceptively edited. Now we've who wonder where the term
doctored who launched that besides NBC you have for CNN
doctored and what does that mean? This
John C. Dvorak: just by the way, I want to put this in the same
category as glitch.
Adam Curry: Yes, what exactly does doctored mean thank you.
doctored definition. Is that a good thing? If I'm doctor
doesn't mean I'm getting healthier.
John C. Dvorak: It Adam has been doctored
Adam Curry: it treat someone medically. He contemplated
giving up doctoring being doctored. Okay,
John C. Dvorak: why? Well, you know, first off, I
Unknown: think the suggestion there is that we haven't taken
action and that's not right. We have acted. Anybody who is
seeing this video in newsfeed. Anyone who is going to share it
to
Adam Curry: listen to this so to face back didn't take it down
but listen to what they do when Washington DC puts out a call
John C. Dvorak: but he else anybody who has shared it in the
past. They are being alerted that this video is false and And
this is part of the way that we deal with misinformation we work
with internationally certified fact checking organizations
Adam Curry: internationally certified. oh,
Unknown: where can we get some certifications? The certifier is
why I stopped. I'd love to know. certifier who was the certifier.
John C. Dvorak: When stopped. Hold on, stop again. Let me
guess. Cooper immediately asks, asked Sir, who is the certifier
for this, this, this checking operation who who does the
certification? Were you watching
shared it in the past, they are being alerted that this video is
false. And this is part of the way that we deal with
misinformation we work with internationally certified fact
checking organizations that are independent from Facebook. And
we think these are the right organizations to be making
decisions about whether something is true or false. And
as soon as we get and we did in this case, as soon as we get a
rating from them, that content is false, then we dramatically
reduce the distribution of that content. And we let people know
that's false, so they can make an informed choice. What why we
did, yeah, if there were misinformation that was, let's
say, tied to an ongoing riot or the threat of some physical
violence somewhere in the world, we would work with safety
organizations on the ground to confirm falsity and the link to
violence. And then we actually would remove that
misinformation.
So most information about that here doesn't promote violence,
but misinformation that you know, portrays the third most
powerful politician in the country. For somehow impaired
that's fine,
Adam Curry: that's fine. So the international fact checking
network has a code of principles and advisory board. The
International fact checking network has seven counselors who
represent the geographical diversity of the network. They
are pioneers in the development and implementation of fact
checking in their countries and regions, all board members are
unpaid. The advisory boards main role is to help oversee the
verification process of the code of principles. But it's also
consulted on all manners of other decisions that have an
international relevance for fact checkers, let's meet let's meet
these advisors. Let's see who we have here. Angie Holan. She is
the editor of PolitiFact. Clara Jimenez Cruz. She is a Spanish
journal. Glenn Kessler, Editor in Chief writer of the fact
checker, he has a journalism career spanning more than three
decades. Wow. Go Gobind drudge Etheridge. He's from India.
Laura Zomer. Editor in Chief good for and let's see, well, he
has over 25 years focused on fact checking and fake news
busting in India 25 years he's the man is fantastic. 25 years
he's been doing this on the internet apparently. Hmm. Laura
Zamar, editor in chief at she quedo the first initiative
effect checking and verification of public discourse in Latin
America. Okay. And NoCo magotteaux. He has extensive
career in the media sector as a journalist and manager 20 years
of experience in Africa. Oh, and then we have one more tea John
she veterinarian. She's from Bosnia Herzegovina is known from
America. Oh yeah. PolitiFact. Angie is from PolitiFact. And so
those are the people who determine who can
John C. Dvorak: be nobody from Snopes.
Adam Curry: Now they're they are a member of the fact check
network. But here's how are they but if you want to, if you want
to become a fact checker, we can do it. And we can actually think
we should we can get a little verification badge. Oh, cool.
Step one application. Yes. Which includes a non refundable fee of
$200 Okay, seems steep, and then the assessment or external
assessors will will check this who are the external assessors?
Lauren bigot Well, there you go. Lauren bigot is the is the one
who will be looking at our assessment. Please this is
crazy. So it's a big intellectual network of Yahoo's
Yeah. Theater now, pooper took it one step further. And this is
really really what gave me great joy to listen to this because
here you have him seeing face bag is an incredible adversary
and they're not playing fair.
John C. Dvorak: I guess I still just don't logically understand.
I understand. It's a bits of big business to get into of trying
to figure out what's true or not, but you're making money by
being in the news business. If you can't do it. Well. Oh,
shouldn't you just get out of the news business?
Adam Curry: I'd love that. He's saying they're in the news
business all of a sudden,
John C. Dvorak: okay, I reject the notion that we're not doing
a lot to counter misinformation.
I just say you're not doing it. I'm just saying, if you are you
are, in this particular case, spreading and allowing the
spread of a clearly false doctored video. Again, you're in
the news business, there's a responsibility that comes with
that. And this is this isn't even a question starting in
the doctored video itself, tell me if I'm wrong here is
newsworks News. Of course, it is this news. More news, and it's
good news worthy. So why wouldn't you leave it as is and
just tell people, we think this is a fake? This, of course, he
knows that the doctored video is news. Because he's covering it.
He's full of crap this guy.
Adam Curry: Well, well, but I think he's, look, he's he's part
of the system. And for him to say repeatedly, you're in the
news business. I think he was really drawing her out. He
wanted her to admit that they're in the news business, because
once once face bag admits that, then it's all over. Then all of
this the deep platforming, you know, hiding shadow banning, you
know, lowering significance in the feed, all of this stuff
becomes very relevant to Section 203 of the Communications
Decency Act. Then all of a sudden, you are editorializing?
John C. Dvorak: Well, they're not really in the news business
by No, I know.
Adam Curry: But he's trying to get her to admit to it and and
saying, by the mere fact, you distribute this, you're in the
news business. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: And this is, this isn't even a question.
Unknown: We are in the news business. We are in the social
media business. Well,
John C. Dvorak: you're in the news to share. The reason you're
sharing news is because you make money from it and keeps people
watching you.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, I understand. If you make money
from it, then you're in the news business. Okay. Thanks, Anderson
more
John C. Dvorak: involved in your side, which again, and that's
fair. But if you're in the news business, which you are, you got
to do it right. And this is false information you are
spreading. I have
coming from CNN, he says that I know, it's got to do it. Right.
You guys doing it right? So
Adam Curry: lovely. Ironic.
John C. Dvorak: You got to do it, right. And this is false
information you're spreading. But we
have a site where people can come and share what they think
what's important to them, the news that they find relevant.
And when they do that, we want to make sure that they have
access to accurate information. If there's a threat of safety,
if we're talking about terror propaganda, that's something
where we can actually assess that on its face and say, Yes,
we can pull it down. When you're talking about political
discourse. After nine
Adam Curry: minutes of this crap. Yeah, I'd be Ark to
property physically
Unknown: related to safety. information that's related to
safety, we can and we do remove it.
John C. Dvorak: And he went on. Well, while we're on the product
process, if you got to do it, right. We might as well play
this from CNN. This is let's see, this is the Scarborough on
Trump's mental decline.
Unknown: Oh, day yesterday, President Trump continued
Adam Curry: dude, what? I don't know this. Yeah, you're right.
Something went wrong with you.
John C. Dvorak: Don't worry about it fixed. Okay, good. Oh,
Jay. Yesterday, President Trump continued to erupt last night,
because the House Speaker said that he threw a quote, temper
tantrum, tweeting after 9pm. Last night the President shared
a video edited to show Nancy Pelosi stammering during a news
conference with anchors suggesting the speaker is in a
mental decline. Fake videos of Pelosi altered to make her sound
as if she is slurring her words has spread online in recent
days. Interesting. Wonder what that's about? Well,
Unknown: we know what sacks we've been about the around this
block before the person. Of course, during the campaign,
we've said it people closest to him told us that they feared
that he was in middle decline. People very close to him, told
us that they feared that he was pre dementia that he had changed
you. You watched Donald Trump in the late 1980s. Watch him even
in the 90s You watch him now he is completely changed. I've
known Nancy Pelosi and been working with her since 19. I
interviewed her this week since 1990 minute or a quarter of a
century of now, Nancy Pelosi, I can tell you, Nancy Pelosi He is
tougher today sharp as a tack than she was 25 years ago. The
difference between Nancy and Donald not even close. He knows
he slipped out there actually, we can think it's incredible.
They're doctoring videos, presents.
Adam Curry: All right, you gotta be come come clean with me,
Dvorak. Here's what I think happened. You probably had the
same thought I did. Like, ah, it's funny, I'm gonna slow down,
some people make him sound drunk. And then you left the
filters on all your clips. What happened? I, your doctoring
clips,
John C. Dvorak: it just, it's really too long and boring to
discuss. But it was it is a filtering problem. And it had to
do with some background processing that I didn't know is
gonna go on to the clips. And I disabled all of it. Finally,
after I figured out what it was because I couldn't get to this
this there was one, there's some screwball page that is not even
linkable on the normal Windows 10 main menu that is, puts a
bunch of special effects on top of the audio tracks. Oh, and I
was playing around with it. I think I left something turned
on. Problem is this this, this particular page of settings, is
not easy to access, and I couldn't find a way to get back
to it. It was just impossible. And because it wasn't available
under the normal settings, it wasn't the biggest
Adam Curry: thing you're on. It's your audio driver where you
can set some of that stuff. It's like this. What were you
thinking? This is a clear sign of mental decline.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, mental decline. So I kept looking and
looking I finally found it by digging through of this
searching the whole computer. Oh, gosh, and I finally found
it, I just put I just turned everything off. Anyway, so the
number the clips have a little little echoing so it sounds
Adam Curry: pretty crappy.
John C. Dvorak: The point is, the point is, is that these do
and I do have a ISO from them. The sharp is attack ISO.
Adam Curry: Okay, it's
John C. Dvorak: sharp as a tack.
Adam Curry: sharp as a tack.
John C. Dvorak: sharp as a tack.
Adam Curry: It has such triple meaning for me now. I'm really
lucky.
John C. Dvorak: Now. I do we have the actual Pelosi write off
of the conference, which is a progressive event that she was
at and she's yakking away and she sounds like an idiot. I
think I also have no I haven't either Pelosi when she was being
interviewed, but
Adam Curry: this is the this is the exposing Pelosi at the
progressives event is that we're talking about?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is where you
Unknown: Yeah, turn off. Some news happened today. You you
this morning, were supposed to meet with the President on
infrastructure. But that meeting didn't really happen as I
understand it from Twitter and the news and cable. Could you
tell us what happened and what your thoughts are on that
meeting or lack thereof?
I'm happy to convey my impression of what happened this
morning, but not before. I thank you, Mayor for your incredible
leadership and cap for ideas. That's a big word.
Adam Curry: I gotta be honest with you, John. It's kind of
unlistenable.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, well, it sounds funny coming over.
Adam Curry: No, it's this is also slowed down. No, you don't
hear that?
John C. Dvorak: Well, it seems like it could be off about 5%.
Yeah. Could be okay. You don't have to play it.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm just wondering how many of your clips
have this
John C. Dvorak: today? Probably view of them.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, we can't play Nancy Pelosi anymore,
because then it just it's wrong. Something very wrong about like
it covering the story with slow down clips, which were not
intentionally slow down.
John C. Dvorak: Okay. Well, she sounds terrible. She does. I
mean, I don't care what you play Pelosi in any of her press
conferences. Yeah, you can clip it out and make her sound worse,
but she just sounds bad anyway. Well, she stammers and she she
does she does what Ron Paul used to do. When Ron Paul was
excited. He clipped words. We're going to NP then she'd go on
with something else. She would never finish a word she'd say MP
instead of impeach
Adam Curry: Ron Ron Paul would do that.
John C. Dvorak: Ron Paul did it constantly. He would always clip
words and so as he spoke, he would not finish a word because
he didn't think it was necessary. And I got plenty of
examples of it but she's doing it all the time. I think a lot
of people that are I don't know how you develop this habit. It's
it just seems like a habit that you develop some How have just
Adam Curry: words? Well, there's also something to be said for
her being in her late 70s. You know, it's like, hey, it's like
Nadler. Like, holy crap. I will just Nadler
John C. Dvorak: Nadler 71 Well, Nadler
Adam Curry: is in deep trouble as far as I'm concerned. I mean,
you know, this that wasn't just some fainting that guy did. He
looked, he looked like he had something a little more serious
take place.
John C. Dvorak: We had an EMS guy that EMR or whatever they're
called, EMS. EMT. EMT. Yeah, you sent me a note. He says, you
know, this does happen with dehydration with older people.
He says, Did you seen it before? As may not be anything that
anyone thinks?
Adam Curry: Well, he didn't look good. He looks very confused.
But again, you're 71 and you're dehydrated. Yeah, only if you're
Hillary's
John C. Dvorak: got a big bucket of water in front of him. Take a
sip
Adam Curry: except if you're Hillary Clinton then you know
then doesn't quite count if the if you fall down because of the
heat but Jerry Nadler It's okay. What I thought was interesting
is what de Blasio the way he approached the situation
Unknown: but I certainly want to see us have the ability to add
more when we need them. And I think the Congressman's right
about that fact. Where you want some Yeah, I got some some hip
Jerry. Dehydrated brother.
Adam Curry: I love this. You look dehydrated brother. When he
was this like brother seem a little dehydrated. Okay. Hey,
bro. You want to take a break? Yo, How you feelin man? Okay, UK
brother. All right. What is this brother business? Robin, that's
what you say to someone you really don't know, really don't
probably even want to converse with. I mean, those are two
total strangers. If a guy says hey, how you doing their brother
when the guy is clearly not doing okay. Like, hey, Jer, how
you doing? Hey, Napster, none of that next brother. Hey, brother.
John C. Dvorak: Well, he didn't look good, especially in the
close of the video that somebody made.
Adam Curry: Right. This is this is really the bottom line. I saw
nothing but friendly mainstream media, doing anything possible
to distract people away from the fact that the leadership of
representatives because they're not our leaders, they lead the
representation by some mechanism that they are older. And, you
know, hey, everyone gets old and I'm gonna get older and we're
all gonna get crunchy and messed up and make stupid mistakes
already looked like a moron dancing. So you know, I would
hate to be in their position. But hey, isn't it telling us
something? And why? Why don't we see a little news coverage of
hey, you know, at what point does your cognitive skills maybe
you should think about retiring if you're if you're hitting 80
in Congress, maybe you're passing
John C. Dvorak: out on the
Unknown: seated. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah. That's, I think that's a valid
conversation to have, isn't it now? No, apparently that's not
possible. And where is Ruth Bader Ginsburg, by the way,
where she
John C. Dvorak: was she's hanging in there.
Adam Curry: No, she's not. She hasn't been back to work.
Because she was back to work. We're telling me she's still at
work. But she's been back to work.
John C. Dvorak: I thought so. That was my understanding.
That's what the media has led me to believe.
Adam Curry: I have a feeling she hasn't been back to work at all.
Let me see. When is the last time
John C. Dvorak: I'd be in an iron lung for all we know.
Adam Curry: Maybe, but I don't know. I I'd have to I'd have to
see some evidence that she's actually back at work. Because
she could I mean, not saying this, you know, saying this just
was not trying to be mean, but if she had passed away that
would be easy to keep quiet. If it was necessary. Like oh, we
can't have orange MAN bad putting another Supreme Court
Justice on No, we can't have that took a look. We fake the
moon landing. I'm sure we can fake Ruth Bader Ginsburg going
to work. But I haven't even seen that. You know, someone with
just kind of bustling into the Supreme Court. Know, if someone
has any evidence, I'd like to know that she's still okay.
John C. Dvorak: Okay, now I got a clip for you. Okay. All right
below. This is Pelosi again, but this time she's under this is
the interview that Brzezinski is talking about are being sharp as
a tack. Doesn't it pour
more pressure on you that a conservative Republican says the
threshold for impeachment has been met?
No. No. Why? Well, we haven't. We're not. This isn't about
politics. It's not about passion. It's not about
prejudice. It's not about politics. It's about patriotism.
And it's about the presentation of the facts so that the
American people can see why we're going down a certain path
that the American people elected him president, not by the
popular vote, but by the the college or the electoral
college. So I respect the office that he holds. And I think I
respect the office that the President holds more than he
respects the office that he holds. And I do believe that we
must hold him accountable to a high ethical standard, which he
has not met, to integrity, level of integrity that he has not
met. And actually a respect for the governance, science and
other barracks that we have. So this is we have a moment. But
the fact is, is that at the same time when you try to find common
ground to work with him,
Adam Curry: she knows better that's, you know, you sit there
home, you watch her say things like Why pray for the President,
he's clearly not well needs an intervention. And and you think
that she really mean that? No, she doesn't mean it. If you
really,
John C. Dvorak: really you played the definitive clip, but
a month ago, she has her clip going off on bush.
Adam Curry: Oh, right. Right. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
let me see. Nancy. Pelosi, what was it was 19 was the old one,
wasn't it?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it was from the 92. Or nor? Or before?
No, it was about George HW Bush. So it had to be around 1989 or
something like that.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was 60 minutes, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, anyway, yes. That was the definitive clip because he's
always been like that. But she knows better. She knows that
this isn't that there is no grounds for impeachment. Yeah.
Otherwise she do it that the 25th Amendment is literally
about being incapable of performing the incase really
incapacitated, walk it will or talk or whatever it is or can't
communicate. And she, on one hand, she said, Oh, clearly,
something's wrong with him. He's not of sound mind that needs an
intervention, but she will not allow impeachment proceedings.
John C. Dvorak: She has mentioned the 25th Amendment
herself just recently. Right. But it's just bullshit is a
bullshitter. She
Adam Curry: just she just throwing it out there. However,
with Nancy stonewalling that, oh, no, there's money to go
around x. Blue is up in arms, and they're taken out
advertisements on MSNBC. This is a message for leaders
Unknown: of the Democratic Party. For over two years, this
President has broken the law and nothing happened.
You told us to wait for the Mueller investigation. And when
he showed obstruction
of justice, nothing happened. when this
President took money from foreign governments and blocked
the release of his tax returns, nothing happened.
And when his administration illegally refused to testify,
nothing happened. Now you tell us to wait for the next
election. Really, really, really. This is why we
volunteered raise money, went door to door and voted in the
last election. Our founding fathers expected you
Congress to hold a lawless President accountable. And
you're doing nothing, nothing.
John C. Dvorak: Nothing.
Unknown: You broke his oath of office.
John C. Dvorak: He's defying you. He's
Unknown: laughing at you. And he's getting away with it.
This is our democracy. But Congress is part of the system
and the system is broken. We have to fix the need to impeach
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impeach everybody.
John C. Dvorak: The need to impeach.com says Now Dave taken
his so far now it's been on onto three years. Yeah, you're that
means every president now whoever gets in. Obama could
have gone through this if he wasn't black.
Adam Curry: Sure. Yes. He probably would have. Yeah, I
probably would
John C. Dvorak: have but this is all stemming from Nick's and it
stems from you know, then Clinton getting impeached. He
actually got impeached. And they went through with it. And it
didn't and as the Republicans say, it didn't really help us.
No, it ended up hurting us because it really irks the
people because they never got anywhere with it. You didn't get
him kicked out of office. So what was the point? Just the
process of humiliation? Yes. And that's what they're doing. And
it irks Steve, it really makes people angry. It turns out that
26% of the US public thinks that impeachment proceedings should
begin that's a very low number. And that's familiar to hardcore
lefties. And it's going to irk everybody else if they go ahead
with this and that's what Pelosi knows this and that's why she's
trying to keep these guys underestimate is a bunch of gung
ho jerk offs like Al Green, that are just gonna keep doing push
for it, and then the all these young people they don't know
that AOC is and these other Omar and the rest of them they think
is great. Sounds
Adam Curry: good. Let's do it. So then a clip? Well, I was
gonna say two things happen on Thursday on a show day, of
course, that warrant to discussion, one is the
declassification of any and all documentation relating to any
collusion. The second one is the Assange indictment under the
Espionage Act. Which one would you like to tackle first?
John C. Dvorak: Well, I would say that the first one is
probably more appropriate to where we've been chatting so
far, then we get to Assange. Okay.
Adam Curry: So that was exactly it. It was a full
declassification order. I think it was an executive order.
Everyone has to cooperate with Attorney General Barr. And of
course, it doesn't mean that we're going to see everything
No, no,
John C. Dvorak: no, I'm going to see anything. I'm gonna see
anything. I said, we're gonna see Brennan whining.
Adam Curry: Well, I do. I like how you're seeing people blame
each other. This is always kind of like a precursor to something
coming out that someone did something wrong. And one of the,
it seems like a lot of people want to point towards Comey.
Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, for sure.
Unknown: Welcome back to Fox and Friends. First former Attorney
General Loretta Lynch claims that she never told James Comey
to call the Hillary Clinton email probe a matter instead of
an investigation.
Adam Curry: We were getting to a place where the attorney Joe and
I were both gonna have to testify and talk publicly about
it. And I want to know what you're going to authorize us to
confirm we had an investigation. And she said yes, but don't call
it that, call it a matter. And I said, Why would I do that? And
she said, just call it a matter.
Unknown: Not so fast. Lynch now says the former FBI Director
mischaracterized her statements. That is according to a newly
released transcript of Lynch's testimony on Capitol Hill last
year, Lynch also said that she was quote, surprised that Comey
used the word matter, in reference to the Clinton email
probe. So more to come on that.
Adam Curry: This is delicious. I never said Matt, I didn't say
that to you, James. But you You did? I think that's juicy.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that is a good one. But again, if you get
back to the basics, and go back to your buddy, algid, Digenova,
whatever his name is, Digenova. Yeah, no, that guy. Yeah. He's
just blames the whole thing. And I'm Brandon, he says he was the
real. He was the real conspirator.
Adam Curry: Right. But we we can't leave. We can't lose sight
of what this is really about. All of this was put into play,
because the AI more than likely Clinton, but possibly with other
members of the Obama administration, from 2012 to
2016. were spying on political opponents. And probably
Democrats really to be honest, you know, leading up to the to
the election, they were using the NSA database, and that
spying is what got them in trouble in because then they'd
started to use that on Trump. There were no information coming
in from the State Department to have people unmasked, in very
strange way for that to take place. And they basically got
caught. That's what that's the clip that you played of Admiral
Rogers, that whole I got all this stuff going on. People are
just looking at Americans for no reason, no warrant. And that's
when he put that he stopped that capability. But by then, they
were found out. If Clinton wasn't going to be president,
this would come to light. Oh, he did it. Trump became president,
we got to cover this up. So that's where Brennan, who was
probably a big part of that initial spying, was brought in
or brought in the steel dossier and made it all happen. It's
it's really not about any of that. It's about spying on
political opponents, American citizens do
John C. Dvorak: when you have the mechanism. digests wouldn't
be a surprise to anybody. The FBI has been doing for years,
most of his career since it's been created.
Adam Curry: The crazy thing is it was it was Brennan. And it
was Muller, who were there when this was put into place after
911. And they they swore Oh, yeah, we'll make sure this is
never used for any other reason. Then, as specifically stated in
the in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, that charter
it'll never be used to spy on Americans, the very same guys
who did it And cover it
John C. Dvorak: up course as to why you do it.
Adam Curry: But no one is really is really, except for Joe
Digenova. Like, buddy, he's the only guy and he's a kook, which
makes it that much harder for people to understand. So
frustrating How will we ever win? Well, then there's Trey
Gowdy, who he claims that there is exculpatory evidence that was
recorded. And exculpatory means clearly shows the person is not
guilty of whatever they're being accused of. And when you go and
get a warrant to spy on someone, or if you're accusing someone of
your indicting someone, and you withhold the evidence that could
show that he or she is innocent. Please tell me that some kind of
law breaking John, tell me there's something with that.
John C. Dvorak: It depends on the rules. But yes,
Adam Curry: okay. Well, here's Trey Gowdy talking with the
money honey about it. Oh, I touched the money, honey the
wrong way. And she went away.
John C. Dvorak: The FBI agents conversations with George
papadopolis is because when an FBI agent sends in informants to
someone they're looking at, typically those conversations
are recorded, right? Those people are wired.
Yeah, I mean, if the bureau is going to send an informant, and
the informants going to be wired, and if the bureau is
monitoring telephone calls, there's going to be a transcript
of that. And some of us have been fortunate enough to know
whether or not those transcripts exist, but they haven't been
made public. And I think one in particular is going it has the
potential to actually persuade people very little on this
Russia probe, I'm afraid is going to sway people who hate
Trump or who love Trump. But there is so much information in
these transcripts that I think has the potential to be a game
changer. If it's ever made public. You say that
Adam Curry: Xcode, by the way this was prior to the
declassification order
John C. Dvorak: Batory evidence, and when people see that they're
gonna say, Wait, why wasn't this presented to the court earlier?
Yeah. You know, Johnny Ratcliffe is rightfully exercised over the
obligations that the government has to tell the whole truth to a
court when you are seeking permission to spy or do
surveillance on an American. And part of that includes the
responsibility of providing exculpatory information or
information that tends to show the person did not do something
wrong. If you have exculpatory information, and you don't share
it with the court. That ain't good. I've seen it Johnny seen
it.
Adam Curry: It ain't good. Okay. I don't know if it's breaking
any laws, but apparently that ain't good, John. So I don't
know if that gets us anywhere.
John C. Dvorak: Gets his data and good. Oh, well. That whole
thing is yeah, we'll see. I mean, they do bar does have this
it's got everybody bent out of shape. Mostly Brandon. He's on
why don't they get how many clips? Has
Adam Curry: he been on any any has he been appointed anyone
John C. Dvorak: just recently, he was on bitching about this.
Oh, he was bitching about this thing about Barr being able to
just unlock stuff. And he's and he's going on and on. And
Brennan goes on. He speaks for the entire intelligence
community. I wish I had the clip. He speaks for the entire
intelligence community when he stammering Lee says all the
everybody in the intelligence community is upset about this,
because it's not the way it should be done. And he goes on
and on. He says just careless, reckless, reckless of the
President to do such some sunlight. And he's really like,
What is his problem, everybody? I mean, if you look at the Genoa
and or listen to Ray McGovern, who nobody will talk to anymore,
right? He's been banned from everything. McGovern says
they're running like, you know, scared guilty people.
Adam Curry: Well, let's remember this famous words of John
Brennan
Unknown: people are innocent until well alleged to be
involved in some type of criminal activity.
Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't think he's safe. lead to
criminal activity. You're guilty. Guilty until it's LED.
So I think he's in some trouble there.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, by his own standards, he is now
unbelievable. Well, okay, so Assange. Yes.
Adam Curry: Assange. Now this is interesting. Actually, I have a
clip for this, I think. Yes, under the heading press
freedoms, because that's what this is. That's what this will
be talked about. As usual. There's no such thing as press
freedoms. I just want to remind everybody, there's a freedom of
the press which is per our Constitution, the United States
it varies by country. The United Kingdom has no freedom of the
press. You get a D notice a shut up slave and just stop it. Here
is let me see. This is from the this is about the
John C. Dvorak: D stand for
Adam Curry: doofus I don't know D. I don't know someone will be
able to tell us
John C. Dvorak: breaking news in our worldly the Justice
Department announcing more charges against WikiLeaks
founder Julian Assange. Let's get right to CNN as Laura
Jarrett at the Justice Department. Laura, what are the
details of this indictment?
Unknown: Well, Jake, this is a pretty aggressive new move by
the Justice Department essentially tacking on 17 new
charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, we had
seen a single charge of computer intrusion late last month, but
now a 17. New charges much more significant. And really a really
a big deal here for First Amendment advocates and a
concern here, because he's being charged with unlawfully
obtaining, soliciting, encouraging that former
intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning with obtaining of just a
bevy of National Defense materials, and he's being
charged with publishing those materials. And so the Justice
Department asked today, well, what's the difference between
Julian Assange and journalists like you and I, and they said,
Let's be clear. Julian Assange is no journalist, what another
justice official said he's not being charged simply because
he's a publisher and what a publisher and what they're
pointing to is not only the fact that Assange allegedly helped
Manning crack into a Department of Defense password, but also
the fact that he published confidential human sources, the
names of human sources, which put them in danger. And he knew
that publishing would put them in danger, he solicited those
materials on WikiLeaks. And that's what they're pointing to,
which makes this case different. Jake,
John C. Dvorak: and Laura, what does this mean for Assange? And
has WikiLeaks responded?
Unknown: They have they have said, This is madness. It's the
end of national security journalism and the First
Amendment. So obviously, a pretty a pretty aggressive
response from WikiLeaks there. But you know, this, this is
something that the prior administration really struggled
with under the same set of facts. Under the prior Justice
Department, Eric Holder declined to prosecute Julian Assange
under the Espionage Act for just this idea, because the idea is,
well, what would be separate this from the New York Times
publishing classified information? And I should also
point out, you might wonder why we're seeing this today. The
Justice Berman actually had 60 days from when he was arrested
last month. And so there was a sort of window for when they
could tack on these new charges. No telling whether they're going
to tack on any additional charges, though, at this point.
Adam Curry: I think these 60 days is for extradition, maybe.
Is that the idea
John C. Dvorak: about any of this disguise, not even an
American? How can they charge you with anything?
Adam Curry: Well, there is a Wikipedia page for the Espionage
Act of 1917. United States federal law. And
John C. Dvorak: many people have been found guilty under this
Espionage Act, even though we've gone through two world wars and
Vietnam War and we've had all these other acts police actions
around the world and, and potential for espionage and
people were blown up trains in World War Two and all the rest.
Well, how many people been charged and found guilty?
Adam Curry: And I don't think I know how many have been actually
found guilty. Zero. I think interestingly enough, Daniel
Ellsberg. Yeah. Who was the whistleblower of the Pentagon
Papers? He was, he was hauled before the court on,
John C. Dvorak: he actually did the whole act. He grabbed the
papers, and he released the papers, right? Julian Assange
was acting as a journalist in this regard, because he didn't
go go steal the papers. And by the way, let's get back to my
point. Well, I'm not an American. Yes, he isn't. He's a
citizen of Australia. He's, he's living in England, what jurist?
What is the jurisdiction? President? I'm asking about
jurisdiction or what jurisdiction? Do we have to
charge this guy under any act? Did espionage or other? Where's
our jurisdiction here? So I'm not an American? He can't he's
not committing espionage. Okay.
Adam Curry: Can I ask you a question? Can you? I mean, I
understand you've made this point you keep making it over
and over again. Gadhafi was not an American, we went over there
and shot him up the ass. What is your point? I mean, this is a
fucking stupid argument. Yes, he's not an American. And
neither is it is well, it's to make it over and over again. I
don't think I don't think it matters ever being addressed.
Well, but what is there to say? I don't think it matters. I
think the United States if they want to charge anybody under
anything, to jaywalking acts, they'll do it.
John C. Dvorak: I have no jurisdiction over this guy.
Adam Curry: Not until he's here. If they get him here, then all
of a sudden, I think you've got
John C. Dvorak: me here. What's the jurisdiction? He's not as
sensitive united. Okay, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. It's the world police gonna swoop in and
say hold on a second. You can prosecute that young mom.
John C. Dvorak: Well, the problem with the World Police is
that we're the world police. Exactly.
Unknown: Give it up already. I'm not
Adam Curry: but I think there's something else going on here. I
think this is I don't think this is for one of two reasons
either, somehow, and this has Trump's greasy fingerprints on
it, either A, we're gonna use this guy to show what, what you
can't do somehow. We'll we'll finagle this into the law to
show that if you are publishing things that are just given to
you, from inside the American government or intelligence
sources, they want to stop that for obvious reasons. And there's
a lot of leaking in particular, when it comes to stuff about
Trump and he and there's, it's been very damaging to him. And
so he may want to use this as a case to stop it. Or it's meant
to let Julius Assange go free because I don't see any court
who could convict this.
John C. Dvorak: I have felt the exact same way. I think this may
just they did overcharge him with stuff. That's bull crap,
the espionage law being the most obvious, where's the Logan Act?
Anyway, the espionage laws are bull crap, and they're in and
he's gonna go free. And that's the idea. I think that's a
positive, distinct possibility, because we know that Trump was
happy about Assange. But he has to put up a false front here to
make it look as though he's getting tough now, just he just
likes the fact that Julian Assange got him elected as
president. Yes,
Adam Curry: of course he does. And this may be just to get out
of jail free card to answer your earlier question. In 2001,
retired Army Reserve Colonel George Topham off was indicted
under the Act and convicted of conducting espionage. KENNETH
Wayne Ford Jr. indicted for allegedly having a box of
documents in his house after he left NSA he was sentenced to six
years in prison to sound like this hasn't worked. In 2005,
Pentagon, Iran expert Loris Franklin, were in and lobbyists
Rosen and Weissman were indicted under the act. See, frankly, was
sentenced to 12 years later reduced to 10 months of home
confinement, it seems like yeah, maybe not such a big 12 years to
10 months,
John C. Dvorak: damn. 12 years to 10 months of home
confinement.
Adam Curry: That's that's that's a pretty good lobby right there,
man. Good job on that. Alexander. Jeffrey Sterling,
former CIA agent indicted on the act in January 2011.
unauthorized disclosure of National Defense Information to
James risin. You remember that?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Well, how come Hillary has been indicted
under this. This is not for elites.
Adam Curry: This is not for lizards. This is for humans.
These laws are not for the shapeshifters. John, they get to
do whatever they want. But yes, I think I think we're both kind
of in agreement that this is like, oh, make it look really,
really bad. And then I don't even know if they'll go to go to
trial with it. They'll come up with some Well, something, it
just doesn't feel like they're really going to do this. And the
way the press is responding. They're not really all freaked
out about it. So they must not think it's really there. Is a
little bit of this. Oh, well. How was it different from NBC?
Well, NBC is fake. I mean, you one way to look at it. It's
quite different from NBC. In fact, I just thought that was
Yeah, so
John C. Dvorak: we'll see. We'll see. I still question the
jurisdiction issues.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
courage and to say in the morning to you the man who put
the C in the notice that comes before the D Notice John C.
John C. Dvorak: By the way, the D notice stands for this
defense. Okay, thank you. Defense. Hello, well in the
morning to you, Mr. Adam curry also in Memorial ships the boots
on the ground feed yourselves the world the dames knights out
there
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John C. Dvorak: Yes. As a matter of fact, we do have our top
donation is anonymous. Yeah. Oh, you know, you know, I have his
note, unfortunately, leftover on the other desk. So, hold on one
sec,
Adam Curry: okay. Just to fill up the time. It's always fun to
do. Because they always come through the Squirrel Man. Then
he prints it out on his printer, leaves it on the other side of
the room.
But that's okay. He's often getting his name is JC Dirac and
you know that he likes to print out things from the best mail
program in the universe
John C. Dvorak: anonymous says right across the top. Send a
check in obviously, John and Adam. I've been a listener since
the fall of 220 15 when I was working 14 hour days installing
Windows operating systems in retail stores.
Adam Curry: My goodness, that is a harsh gig.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. At the time no agenda was one of many
podcasts I would listen to during my commute to work and to
college. Now however, the quality of both sound and
content has made no agenda stand above all others in the
universe. Thank you. Every time Adam has grown about low
donations or about ending the show, I have I have screamed in
my car wallowing in my flagrant douchebaggery but no residual
jobs karma has have karma is karma has have collected
collected that's what it says upon me like dirt on a popsicle
is very funny. So it's a very like any lie like any other
producer would prefer to present this instant night donation in
something as Raven announces John to the stage. Hopefully a
check will do as well. He's also an Eagle Scout a dude named Ben
and a ham soon to be makes all that you do. Very common. If he
was a Marine, it'd be even more
Adam Curry: so he needs douching and some karma Doesn't anybody
has some specific request still
John C. Dvorak: reading Okay, thanks for all that you do to
conserve the stress of the Migdal is across the globe
please Knight me sir rib ear. reappear, Ruby or so.
Adam Curry: So Ruby,
John C. Dvorak: please D Do you do jobs Klarman he has jingles
Adam Curry: on second this is not on my list so it's anonymous
on your list becomes sir. What was it
John C. Dvorak: all right b dash E or E AR
Adam Curry: revere okay and does it need anything at the table
for the roundtable
John C. Dvorak: doesn't say okay, but he wants that's wrong
chemtrails. That's true and Hillary laughed.
Adam Curry: That's wrong.
John C. Dvorak: That's wrong. Which is that's wrong. I think
there's a Peterson clip. Okay chemtrails, which is a favorite
of yours. That's true. That's true. And that Hillary laugh
hmm,
Adam Curry: I can't find that that's wrong. Oh yeah, that's
wrong. That's true, too. I didn't have this one set up. And
then Hillary laugh or a cackle
John C. Dvorak: just says laugh and chemtrails
Adam Curry: and chemtrails. Why wouldn't we have all of that
stuff? Okay, that's raw. That's true you know what that was? I
tried okay.
John C. Dvorak: It was good. It was it was funnier than it would
think.
Unknown: I don't know what happened. All right.
John C. Dvorak: We know you've exposed yourself as someone who
prepares
Adam Curry: No Well normally I prepare Yes of course. Yes, sir.
You're a preparer or try
John C. Dvorak: a Sir Stephen of Oh SWACO to $756 even a
completing out my Baron net TIDs Baron net. See the counting
below and the rounding up to make it 18 times 42?
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, like that. shapeshifting donation?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, the shapeshifting donation times 42.
That could be answered everything in the universe.
Nice. That's Jewish lucky times the meaning of life. The
universe and everything is got to make it super extra like you
right. All I need is karma. I didn't get the divorce karma I
requested in March. But I guess the universe decided mine
knighthood was enough. So I got through it just finished buying
a townhouse so the kids have a stable home base. So this karma
is for my smokin hot girlfriend that I can turn into a new milk
someday.
Adam Curry: Wow, I love your goals my friend Thank you Sir
Stephen of us rego. That's one mother. I'd like.
Unknown: You've got karma
John C. Dvorak: James Vargas coming up with $666 Jersey City,
New Jersey. My first donation was exactly two years ago when I
played no agenne on a road trip for my girlfriend, and she asked
me if I'd ever donated. Good for her. I love her with all my
heart and I promptly deduced myself. Fast forward two years
and we've now created our own true crime podcast direct
appeal. My girlfriend's a criminologist and as an
exclusive interviews with a woman whom the media dubbed the
suitcase killer, the suitcase killer for the murder of her
husband, she claims her innocence. And we are exploring
the case which is active Dookie. It's a classic podcasting genre.
Yes,
Adam Curry: it's very popular. Yes,
John C. Dvorak: I have supported no agenda show in several ways
over the years by creating artwork three times and having
the honor of being on record as the first to identify Mark
Bognor. Oh yes, I wanted to give the pod father his due in his
own words and would be honored to have Adam credited as
producer at large for our podcast. I've taken many of
Adams studio tips to heart and I sincerely doubt we would have
this show without my patronage to the to this show to no
agenda, so credit where credit is due. I'm so thrilled to
finally be a knight and choose the name sir snores a lot
Adam Curry: outstayed. Actually, I'm gonna listen to them. Listen
to your show. Was it called direct appeal? The true crime
genre. And what's interesting about the true crime genre is
that at least four of them have now gone on to become either
Netflix or Amazon series. Yeah, so that you can really boost
into something crazy crazy good from
John C. Dvorak: that deal with our show. So no. Can you imagine
Netflix anytime soon?
Adam Curry: Hey, I got a Netflix special.
John C. Dvorak: No, no, no, no.
Adam Curry: That's very good.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, nothing did you give me your game karma?
Adam Curry: Yeah. Did I know I'm gonna do it right now.
You've got karma? Yeah, go check that out.
John C. Dvorak: direct appeal. astrodon Sir Mark gathered
together. Oh, wow. They jumped on the bandwagon here and
they're in Tokyo. Two great architects. World 555
Adam Curry: Some of the best in the world. These two are
John C. Dvorak: world class architects. Wishing you lots of
happiness and countless candles around the bathtub. Wink wink
damn as you're picking up on that little meme that I
identified. But Adam take those hearing aids out before you take
a dive lest you get electrocuted. at weddings in
Japan is accustomed to give elaborate envelopes which will
send by snail mail later with money gifts for good luck out of
an enumeration that cannot be split into ah so that's always
the tradition never be able to split in two so that's Deus
555 55
Adam Curry: Oh interesting how these traditions we have the the
Jewish eight multiples of 18 we have Japanese can't be split
into which makes sense. So you have a union a unity is cool.
John C. Dvorak: John, would you send a lavish Japanese wedding
envelope to of course if you want to get married more often?
Already I'd see okay. From Tokyo with love to the whole
enterprise DeMasters Sir Mark Duke and Duchess of Japan and
all the disputed islands in the Japanese sea
Adam Curry: long, long, long, long time. Supporters of the
podcast the no agenda show thank you so much. It's very clear.
I'm gonna give them a Karma just just because we love them.
You've got karma and we learned something cannot be split into.
Thank you. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: that's a new one. Yes. Well, we also learned
back on Valentine's Day that the chocolates are bought for the
men from the masjid Oh,
Adam Curry: that's right. Yes. Yeah, it men get a good deal in
Japan.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. You can do gene Cha there is like a Texas
and also the sheriff the sheriff thanks for the well wishes
common for my father's full recovery. Sorry missing everyone
at the wedding Atlas Shrugged plus Monsanto, 70 threes. K five
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i think i have pulled those five get five and five.
Adam Curry: We'd like to say kilo fives in in the jargon oh
that didn't go well try again
Unknown: by Imran Rand thanks Jane.
You've got karma
Adam Curry: glad everything's okay I'm glad you're back in ATX
John C. Dvorak: servility sir villas at $233 be an Associate
Executive Producer please refer to me as such it has been a year
since my last donation I asked for jobs calm and shortly
thereafter lost my job.
Adam Curry: Oh, this is not a good note. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: in my deployed for 11 months now we're trying
maybe it was one that period of time where we're doing the wrong
jobs I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a new remember that could be
we had this thing I've mentioned this to newcomers or people that
didn't hear it the first time. When we had the Seattle meet up,
somebody came up to me and told me that they that the jobs karma
that included Trump saying jobs jobs job, Jinx them, and he did
work for about a year same as this guy. And we were doling out
that,
Adam Curry: that left and right, left and right. Yeah, yeah,
we've
John C. Dvorak: been we were doling out that faulty job. Shit
Adam Curry: was tainted. That was off. It was passed this past
a day. It was tainted karma.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And it did. We did that for some time.
We once we came up with the Trump one, but then we now since
reverted, yeah, we don't use it anymore. Under any
circumstances. Oh, somebody did request it once. On purpose. I
didn't play for 11 months now. We're trying to buy a business
to sell our house moved to Northern Minnesota and find a
house in the tough housing market. Little or no inventory
in the North Shore and running into unexpected undisclosed buy
seller delays, complications, only request karma. Thanks for
the great show. I hit my son Zoomer in the mouth five years
ago, and you're keeping his sanity as he struggles in the
college campus culture.
Adam Curry: Excellent. What do you think we should do? I mean,
does he says I only want karma, but can we just give him the old
school official Nancy jobs karma?
John C. Dvorak: He didn't request it. I don't think we
should give it to him. Okay.
Adam Curry: Thank you stability,
Unknown: you've got karma.
John C. Dvorak: But he should be at least aware of the fact that
we had this. I don't know if that was effective product. So
let's recall
Adam Curry: so let's put it this way. If he goes back and he
finds out that he was using that he did receive the defective
product, we'd be more than happy to give him a full on Nancy jobs
karma. Just let us know. Yeah, of course, we were always greet
John C. Dvorak: worldwide recall.
Adam Curry: Anyone who had yes, if you had the Trump jobs karma
at this, consider this your recall? And let your dealer know
so that we can set you straight and do your right.
John C. Dvorak: Christopher Walker comes in at $2.01 in the
morning, thank you for your courage. The no agenda shows the
best podcast in the universe without a doubt. Good tidings to
you pot father and Mrs. Pot father as well as well. Also to
the author of the future best selling vinegar book. Good
tidings, sir. Ah, lest I forget the squeaky chair karma, please
for the chair, or we will not hear the end of it. Now down to
brass tacks. The show is great in observance of Memorial Day.
I'd like to ask for this karma please for the family and
friends of Dustin Crider. While we were in Iraq, I watched poor
Dustin Crider get shot in the face and chest during a test
fire tragedy during 2004 There were no bands playing when he
died and it wasn't very glorious. Okay, well give him
some comments as
Adam Curry: well and thank you for helping everyone remember
what Memorial Day truly is about it is about the Fallen men and
women fallen and you know for most it's mattress sale I think
is how we celebrate that in America. It's it's quite
disgusting tag day coming from a long line of military and
intelligence operatives in the United States. Thank you for
reminding us. Christopher and this of course goes out to
Dustin and his family.
Unknown: You've got karma
John C. Dvorak: very good to Mark Wilson wraps things up from
the bees the bear in the Glasgow gents The show has been
excellent as always. Can I please have a jobs come with the
sight of I've got ants. Cheers. Sure. Mark Wilson Baron. It
Adam Curry: seems like we should be able to do at least a little
bit of that. Thank you very much. You got your karma coming
up in a few minutes after we hear from John and the ants
again ants. Ants Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Always a fan favorite. Always.
John C. Dvorak: So want to thank these folks, they're the
producers and executive producers show 1141
Adam Curry: Yeah, and I got something in my Pio box. Pio box
18 20978760 in Austin, Texas. It was from Sir D. H slammer and
the whole family is always so cute. This is a family that
listens to no agenda as a family. So yes, sir. DH Slammer
Dame bang, bang. We've got Sir Andrew, Master Emmett. And who
am I forgetting here? Oh, here we the Baron and Baroness of the
Central California coast venture to Santa Cruz Dame Simona of the
purple goats are Andrew Keeper of the Mountains and master
Edmond selected this fine craft brew. While we are spirit
tasting in Big Bear, California, bear don't worry about it, the
kids can hold their liquor. And he sent us a nice six pack of
blonde 33, which made a lot of sense to us, of course, and it
was nice to receive a letter in the PIO box, which was sealed by
night sealing wax and the signet ring, you too could have one of
those or you could just feel good about being a part of the
no agenda value for value network. It's very simple. You
heard the show did you learn anything? Was it worth anything
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will actually go over there and see what you could do because
you can do a lot thank you to these executive producers and
Associate Executive Producers valuable credits that are
accepted anywhere true true show business credits are recognized
Unknown: for.org/and A That's right.
Adam Curry: We got it all right here it's called Hidden people
now we got to propagate our formula
Unknown: is this we go out for yet people in the mouth attack
Dookie. We hit Sorry,
Adam Curry: I was gonna go ahead and
John C. Dvorak: a bunch of these guys coming out of the woodwork
these never Trumpers I wish to put them on the air and give
them all this time is annoying,
Adam Curry: man. It's kind of annoying. We even had talked
about it. Here. It is. So what do you got them?
John C. Dvorak: But this guy Tom Coleman. Oh, a new guy. Who's
this guy? No, he's an old guy. He was a Trump hater. He got
kicked out of office. And so now he shows up on CNN talking about
how the President should be impeached. I don't know if we
should play it. Probably not. Okay, then
Adam Curry: let's How about this? Very interesting. I've
helped several people immigrate into the United States, as you
have Yes. And through official means official ways. And I
haven't married all of them. Just so you know. And I'm always
happy to help. But there is a very specific when you petition
that's that's the official term. When you petition for someone to
legally immigrate into United States, there comes
responsibility with that. It's actually a quite a big
responsibility, which is you stand as, as you as a what is
the term I'm looking for you guarantee that if anything goes
wrong with this person in their trial period?
John C. Dvorak: Yes, you get deported.
Adam Curry: You don't get deported. But no, you won't get
deported. But you are responsible for any costs or
anything any burden on society. It's spelled out quite clearly.
And this has been part of law for, in fact, the I think it was
99. In the 1996. The illegal immigration reform and
immigration Immigrant Responsibility Act, made it a
took it one step further. And the welfare reform reform laws
enacted by Clinton, who was then President, the law stated that
immigrants should not depend on public resources to meet their
needs. But this has never been enforced. Although I've always
felt that, you know, I can just I'm responsible, something
happens. I know they can come to me never happened. There was
never a reason for it. Bricks. Turns out this thing has never
been enforced. Never. And this includes social services. More
interesting. Martha McCollum on Fox News, has no idea about
this.
Unknown: So with regard to immigration, there was an
announcement today that basically people who had
sponsored immigrants to come into the country are going to be
responsible for repaying any of the benefits that they take
advantage of? How's that gonna work?
Oh, absolutely. It's actually already codified in the law was
passed in 1996 signed by Bill Clinton. It just hasn't been
enforced. Shockingly, the swamp takes over again. But this
president says no more. It's time for those sponsors, who
said that they would pay for dollar for dollar matches to any
federal program that paid for immigrants, it's time for them
to have some skin in the game here. It's a kickstart actually
to the merit based system we've talked about before. We want
immigrants in this country, we're not even changing the 1.1
million immigrants that come here every year. We're not
changing that number. But we're changing the construct of those
who come we want people to contribute not to be a drain on
the American economy, or our social safety net programs that
the American people deserve. Right now, immigrants are taking
advantage of it. And the sponsors by law are supposed to
pay for that. And it's time for them to put in their fair share.
Well, let me ask you this.
Adam Curry: Hi. Um, so, yes, you're gonna say some
John C. Dvorak: shit. Yay.
Adam Curry: I was gonna say this. There are so many laws
that apparently are just not enforced. Who knew? Totally, who
knew about this? I didn't know that. That wasn't enforced. It
seems like a non brainer. Just a no brainer. Say, hey, this
person is no good. You got to pay up. You're responsible come
knocking on your door. I'm surprised by this. Hey, Martha
McCollum didn't even know it existed.
John C. Dvorak: How are you how you're gonna make that work? I
didn't know it existed. I don't think you can bolt her. You
didn't know it exists. She's
Adam Curry: a white woman. I can do whatever I want to say about
her skin in the game skin in the game. Exactly. Where does this
come from? The term skin and origin
John C. Dvorak: of the phrase is unknown. Really? Yeah, this has
been commonly been attributed to Warren Buffett, referring to his
own investment in his initial fund. However, William sapphire
refutes Buffett as the source of the phrase, pointing to earlier
instances. Say may come from Merchant of Venice to
Shakespeare's play in which the antagonist Shylock stipulates
that the protagonist Antonio, must promise a pound of his own
flesh as ca that's
Adam Curry: the pound of flesh. There you go. That's the skin in
the game. That would make sense. Maybe have a received a clip,
it's actually a video clip, I can play some audio from it from
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called? Exactly? Powerline Ethernet lug, home home plug,
your internet button plug home plug what is called home plug.
That's what it's called. That's the
John C. Dvorak: standard. Yeah, one of the there's two
standards. Your home plug is the one this is the most popular.
And I
Adam Curry: and I say well, these things are a problem as
far as I know, because they interfere with ham radio
operators and who knows what else is so one of our producers
took it into the lab. And let me see. I don't know if you want
his Well, his YouTube name is fidget MC fidget run. So I'll
just leave it at that. And here he is.
John C. Dvorak: Alright, so as per John's recommendation on
getting a powerline adapter for getting internet into other
places of your home, I decided to get one for my garage because
that's where my SDR hangout is.
Adam Curry: SDR is software defined radio. So he's listening
to the ham bands.
John C. Dvorak: So I got a ferrite choke on the receiving
end and on the output and into the computer. And let me pull up
fast.com right here and watch the web browser pops up. There
we go. Got a fast.com speed test going and look at all the QR
code that this thing is putting out and then watch as it closes
my browser a couple seconds. Kills and there's a little
Adam Curry: so what you obviously aren't seeing but you
can kind of hear is the minute he starts to use a lot of data
though says he's using a speed test website. It just completely
fills up the entire bandwidth noise you'll
John C. Dvorak: hear it returned I believe that has also caused
by this powerline adapter so it looks like I'm gonna have to
find a different way to get internet into the garage. Adam
was right this thing these things cosmodic QR QR Ambani
because this was a really easy thing to do is plug in plug in,
pair it and go. I'm gonna have to trench out my backyard. Oh
well. seven degrees. There you
Adam Curry: go. Ladies and gentlemen straight from the no
agenda Technology Labs. These things are great unless you are
also a ham radio operator then they're not so great. I wonder
what else they interfere if
John C. Dvorak: his rig is plugged into the power line that
he's using for doing the data transfer
Adam Curry: tow so now we have stipulations. Okay,
John C. Dvorak: so I stipulation that I want to know if you can
have just like an icon one of these one of these battery
powered,
Adam Curry: right not not plugged in
John C. Dvorak: devices, not plugged into the same system.
Adam Curry: Bad you have this battery powered hand check.
John C. Dvorak: I agree. It's it's handy. I can see it being a
problem if you're, yeah, that software defined radios really
picky and it's about noise issues. And so you got a lot of
noise. Okay. That's what was was was supposed to say. But the
other but the the main problem was, it's the guy across the
street. That was in the olden days was bitching. So I don't
think that he did. This is not a test. That's the one I want to
see. I want to see the test of the guy across the street now.
So in other words, I want to the powerline adapter plugged in in
a different house. And does it affect him in his house? Because
that was the bitch about the ham guys early on. Is that you plug
it in anywhere in the neighborhood. No, the ham guys
are screwed.
Adam Curry: Right so it may not carry. Okay, well, we're sending
it back to the lab. John. They will figure it out
John C. Dvorak: for us. Secondary testing.
Adam Curry: Several articles showing up in the Washington
Post The New York Times. In fact, I'll give you some
headlines here. America cities are unlivable blame wealthy
liberals New York Times how San Francisco broke America's heart
to Washington Post. There's a trash and rodent nightmare in
downtown LA with plenty of blame to go around Los Angeles time on
it plague rats feasting on huge trash pile sparks fears or
bubonic plague outbreak in LA.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. What was interested cleaning up the mess?
Well, was asking too much.
Adam Curry: What's interesting about the Los Angeles timepiece
is that apparently the businesses downtown in Los
Angeles are paying some of the well, I don't know if they're
all well, they by definition, they don't have a home. But I
think there's other issues are paying them to take away their
garbage and then just dumping it in the piles where the homeless
people are already dumping their trash. I think in San Francisco,
they changed the recycling companies. It's now by different
regions of the city. And it went from an average $70 a month to
$300 a month, same things happening. Businesses are paying
some of these people to cart off their trash and throw it on some
trash heap. There are people stopping with pickup trucks to
empty their trash onto the trash heap that the homeless people
have made in the streets.
John C. Dvorak: Nice. This that's the opportunists, the
mugs, the Bay Area dwellers,
Adam Curry: that that shows a real moral decay.
John C. Dvorak: Well, it shows that opportunism? isn't moral
decay that save some money.
Adam Curry: No, it is yes, it's moral decay. If you're throwing
the trash on your own street. Yes, that's moral decay. Of
course it is. You don't think so? That's just
John C. Dvorak: opportunists. And wouldn't do it. I don't like
the idea of these big trash heaps. Well, no crawling with
rats and mice. And God knows what
Adam Curry: ASVAB knows. That is bad news. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: that's San Francisco. That's just a fact.
Adam Curry: There's a very interesting lawsuit. It's
missing it's Wheaton at all versus Apple Inc. And what is
interesting about this lawsuit is it claims that Apple sold
iTunes information to third parties for marketing purposes.
And the information that they sold to these third parties was
entire playlists of what you're listening to. And when you think
and we haven't even discussed this as an off the grid OTG
issue. But knowing what kind of songs you listen to, is up there
and importance with personal preferences. I mean, if you give
me your your playlist, your favorite playlist, I think I can
get a lot of insight to who you are and what you're about. Of
course, when it comes to online types of systems like Spotify,
or Pandora or iTunes. There's some concern when it comes to
things like video. In fact, there was a law on the books
that specifically forbade any video store or library or any
other library type functioning service, whether online or
offline, to divulge what people are reading, watching or
listening to. And I think that's probably a pretty good, pretty
good law to have. I didn't even know it existed. It's called the
video Privacy Protection Act. It was passed in Congress in 1988,
signed into law by Reagan, and I'll just give you the actual
text or the important part of it. It was prevented, created to
prevent what refers to as wrongful disclosure of videotape
rent or or sale records, or similar audiovisual materials to
cover items such as video games and future DVD formats. And they
updated this over time to include online as well. I did
not know that this law is existed and it really makes me
while initially it made me question like, well, crap, how
can how can this be taken place? Apple, and isn't Apple supposed
to be the the guys who who say whatever's on your iPhone stays
on your iPhone privacy? Well, they're liars. They're liars.
But here's, here's the here's the kicker. This act was updated
in 2012 2013, with House resolution 6671, which amended
the video Privacy Protection Act to allow video rental companies
to share rental information on social networking sites after
obtaining customer permission. Netflix lobbied for the change.
Obama signed it into law in January 2013. You didn't hear
much about it. But isn't it interesting that the minute
Obama is out of office he gets $100 million Netflix deal isn't
that interesting how that works. Boys wondered why he got that
deal. always wondered now I know. It's it's just scratch my
back. I'll scratch yours and it's quite disgusting. These
after the fact deals quite disgusting. And it's black and
white right there.
John C. Dvorak: To you find out what the what the reason for
that but reverse bribe or whatever you want to call after
the fact bribe? Yep. Now you take care of you when you're
out. Don't do anything now. Yes, well, I think a lot of these
book deals, these massive book deals that these ex presidents
get, they get like a, you know, $2 million advance or 10.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, we're still we're still waiting to see
what genius Barack and Michelle are gonna come up with on
Netflix. Have you seen anything they've produced? Now? They're
gonna produce anything? No, it was pure. Thank you very much.
Great job. You really helped us move forward? You circumvented a
very specific law, which made things difficult for us. Thank
you, President Obama. Here's your 100 million dollar deal. I
don't want to have to do anything. We'll just put you on
retainer. Good to go.
John C. Dvorak: Sounds like that's what it was. You're
right. Good catch. I know. You've just been in your
Adam Curry: craw. Well, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it
going here with one more note from producer Glen. We were
talking about your receipts being sucked in from your Gmail.
Yeah. And that's how Google has this. If you go to my
account.google.com/purchases, then you'll see purchases that
you didn't even make through Google. But if you have a Gmail,
and I you know, so there's certain things that for some
reason, a confirmation email went to a Gmail account I have
and that's what shows up. Well, Glenn says in 2015, he got
married before he got married. He spent hours and hours looking
for a tuxedo suit. He went to Men's Wearhouse and signed up
for email more, as he said, maybe his wife signed them up.
But he never bought anything from them. And of course, Men's
Wearhouse emailed them twice a day, every day for ever since
2015. So he put it into spam in Gmail. And so for the last four
years, he's never seen it. It's always in spam. He would check
occasionally. But you know, it was just going to spam. Two
months ago his grandmother died, then we're sorry to hear that.
She was the first family member to pass away since he was 15. So
this would be his first wake or funeral as an independent adult
and he Googled stuff like what to wear to awake do I need to
suit for awake a day ago? After four years of being spam Men's
Wearhouse now appears in his regular email folder folder.
It's no more mark is no longer marked as spam
John C. Dvorak: What's that all about?
Adam Curry: So that's that's what that's the kind of stuff
they're doing.
John C. Dvorak: You know, these guys you know, this is what we
did probably have the newsletter I got I got six or seven
watchdogs out to the tug of war, this thing showing up and
Primary is a promotions newsletter mostly goes into
their primary with a few guys and every so often, I get a
note, this went to spam for the first time ever. These
newsletters aren't that different from what from each
other. I mean, I, you know, unless I screw something up and
I know what it is. But generally speaking, if you haven't seen
these Dvorak, curry, no agenda newsletter, it is a template.
Yes. Pretty much the same newsletter with different
information? And is it the different information that's
triggering it? Is it the one too many photos that's triggering
it, you really can't tell? It's almost it's the lack
Adam Curry: of an agreement between us and Google to pay
whatever we need to pay to have it delivered. That's the future
of it. And if people are going to use Gmail in the future,
yeah, then that's what you're gonna get. That's, that's what
you're gonna get. And it's also we started
John C. Dvorak: this whole Internet email thing was
unreliable. I was when I was younger, younger, and the 80s
When we were using MCI Mail, and then the Internet Mail started
coming up. in big ways, it wasn't still up to up to speed,
but you get the internet. And if you get an email account from
someone, I forget what the name of that company was that was
providing this. But I always I wrote a column in the deck
professional. Because a magazine that may say, you know, this
mail is unreliable. And I cited all the reasons why it's
unreliable, because I thought it was, and I still do. And holy
crap, did I get a bunch of hate mail? It's the greatest thing
ever. It's not unreliable under any circumstances. Send mail is
the best protocol, blah, blah, you know, it's unreliable?
Adam Curry: Well, I'm going to disagree with you. The I agree
that Sendmail was a very reliable protocol. I think email
is one of the best decentralized systems that exists and has a
lot of fallback and protections and delivery is pretty much
guaranteed. The problem is providers of email. And and the
disincentivize ation of having anyone even understand how it
works. Having a little box that is just your family email server
at home. Yeah, they exist. The helm.com is a good one to look
at. ISPs have worked very hard to block. You having that
capability at home. They make sure that Oh, Port 25 You can't
send yo you can't send out email you might be a spammer. So
they've worked hard against doing that. And people got
complacent. It's like, oh, I got Yahoo mail. I got to AOL mail.
I've got Gmail I got and now you see, you know, you don't they
have your mail. And there's a couple of good ones. What's the
one that everyone likes to use the secure email service that
also that can get can go tits up any day to? What is it everybody
uses? You're
John C. Dvorak: doing? You're just describing it making my
point? No,
Adam Curry: I'm not the emails, the email as a protocol and send
mail is fantastic. protonmail is what it was. I'm not
John C. Dvorak: making your best mail, which people like,
Adam Curry: Ron, so I'm not making your point. You're not
because you specifically said sin mail. And it's bullcrap. And
it's no good. That works and mail
John C. Dvorak: is bullcrap. But I just criticized the whole
mechanism. Yes. The mechanism mechanism where it goes over the
internet and disappears. gets picked up by Sunday. The other
the worst part? Yeah, okay, I'll back off on Send mail is fine.
And there's some newer protocols or even better, but that's
beside the point. The mechanism as a whole is completely flawed.
And even if you have your own little home server, there's
still these blacklists you subscribe to a blacklist because
you don't want to get tons of spam, which you will get. The
whole thing is a mess. I think we should go back to just snail
mail. I've always said the internet should be shut down. I
still say that.
Adam Curry: Yeah, said the man who was you can't say these
things.
John C. Dvorak: I said it. Reset, do a reboot.
Adam Curry: Well, I have invited what are the protocol besides
Sendmail? What are you talking about? What else SMTP relay send
mail is an application.
John C. Dvorak: I'm just going to tell you what I think I just
I just don't think there's I think elaborate. We can't get
the newsletter they have to people. I mean, I'm not counting
people just don't open it. That's just
Adam Curry: No, I understand. But I've received every single
email two copies from two different email addresses ever
since you start sending them out because I've run my own server.
And that has been disincentivized to I mean, they
could make an app on your phone that is an email server if
anyone put their mind to it. But no, that's not the place. It's
too good of a marketing opportunity. That's why Hey,
that was the first thing Google came out with was Gmail. They
knew early And once we capture that shit then we have it all
and everyone wants Oh, good already
John C. Dvorak: use this free good free gigabyte
Unknown: and it could turn into a drive. I remember all that
John C. Dvorak: time code please. I didn't know what guy
that is that you're poor. We
Adam Curry: know that guy. We know that guy. He's been around.
Well, I am still a fan of the general idea of dockless
mobility in our cities. I'm not sure it's going to get a lot
worse before it gets better. But they finally unleashed the bird
bikes in Hoboken, New Jersey, home of Frank Sinatra and it
didn't go well.
Unknown: They are extremely popular and eco friendly but
East scooters are not getting a friendly welcome in Hoboken
people say riders are breaking traffic rules and making the
road dangerous. CBS two cameras caught people riding on the
sidewalk running red lights going the wrong way down one way
streets. It is such a concern on day three of the program that
police have put out warning signs.
John C. Dvorak: I've seen so many kids out here riding around
without helmets. They're weaving in and out. It's hard enough
trying to avoid pedestrians. It's the most preposterous
policy I've ever seen.
Unknown: A company that operates the scooters has set up
information tends to educate riders on safety and traffic
laws.
Adam Curry: Yo brother keeper and I went into town last night
for dinner.
John C. Dvorak: Can I reach for you talk that that anecdote I do
want to say being in Austin for the wedding and I have been in
Austin about as I told somebody in the airplane. I have not been
to Austin pre scooter
Adam Curry: ps3 scooter free scooter visitor
John C. Dvorak: so I'm so I go there and there's all these
scooters. It is unbelievable. Yeah, no no.
Adam Curry: Well what I was what I was going to say is we are out
here in the in the frontier the sticks of Austin you don't
really know they're here too, by the way they I've seen him in
our in our neighborhood people ride him I guess all the way
from from UT maybe I don't know where they're coming from. But
so their rally can get that far. Can they? They can go they can
go 20 miles, these things. They can do a full hour. Yeah, if
it's fully charged 18 or 20 miles. Now it's you know, it'll
take an hour to do that. But yeah, I know I follow this very
closely. I follow not just the laws and Texas has some some
laws that are coming down which will restrict the most important
things which is riding on the sidewalk and where you park
them. The parking has gotten much better. Although I still
think it looks ugly. And if I just decided to throw some shit
on the sidewalk, I would have a problem with it. But okay, I've
said I'm a proponent of this I see the benefit, but it will not
work with the current culture. We can't even make bicycles work
in the current culture with cars and trucks. Austin will be the
first I guarantee you parts of downtown Austin will be shut
down for automobile traffic. It will only be for battery crap.
Scooters that mono wheels, the electric bicycles. That is where
they're moving with this. They're not saying yet but put
it in the Red Book. It's going to be E scooters only in massive
portions of Austin. And that makes only sense that will
happen in Amsterdam. I know it has to happen. Cars are now
there they are they are becoming the problem. They're killing the
enemy. They are the killing the people on the scooters. The
friendly scooters, that killing them, and they take up the place
of 18 scooters, you can have a whole scooter gang in the place
of one car on the road. So I think that's where it's gonna
go.
John C. Dvorak: Well, there are some of US cities in this
country already that have this no car zones. Downtown.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm just talking about Austin, that hot
metropolis.
John C. Dvorak: But I haven't seen one that's been shut down
from vehicle traffic for the purposes of allowing scooters to
be zipping around. Those things are dangerous. These people are
going 25 miles an hour when they shoot by if you get hit by one
of them dolly I can hurt you. It would be dangerous. They got no
helmets or if they flip it or something, you know they're
gonna bang their head and they do.
Adam Curry: Well the main thing is is the the main thing is the
insurance who pays for what you wouldn't it wouldn't the minute
you get on the scooter, you have indemnified the company so
you're good to go there.
John C. Dvorak: So you get a vaccine while you're at it.
Adam Curry: interesting you bring that up. I found the the
Adam Schiff. He actually he actually put a state a resolute
a Senate Resolution.
John C. Dvorak: Where it was Schiff is he's, he's a
Adam Curry: house so it can't be that now Whereas resolution 165,
recognizing the importance of vaccinations and immunizations
in the United States, we were talking about that. Yeah,
Kennedy said that
John C. Dvorak: they had done that brought that up. And you
were we were both aghast. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So the so it indeed is here. It exists. But it's a
resolution. So it's not doesn't make you do anything. But it
does have everything in there that they're good. Vaccines are
good. Shut up, shouldn't ask. And someone asked me on email,
Hey, if there's no really no testing data, to speak of,
certainly for the MMR vaccine in the United States. How does the
European Union do that? So I went looking for that. Oh, my
goodness. What? Ah, it's impossible. They have so many
organizations, eurosurveillance. Let's see, Europe's journal on
infectious disease, Surveillance, Epidemiology,
prevention and control. Is no one has testing results. All
they have is Yeah, everything is safe. Here's the EU regulatory
framework for vaccines, they have a framework, and the
framework is a
John C. Dvorak: fast one on us. Plus more
Adam Curry: than that EU regulatory framework before a
new vaccine is approved for release on the market a rigorous
regulatory procedure to assess quality, effect efficacy and
safety must be undertaken. But really all they do is they just
see if here, the the evaluation and approval of registry quality
assessment. Once a marketing authorization is obtained, it
starts with marketing with these folks a marketing authorisation.
Not if it's safe now you got to get your marketing authorization
first. Once that's obtained, each batch of vaccines must
still be assessed for quality before release. This is done by
both the manufacturer and an official European control
laboratory. The activities of these laboratories are
coordinated by the European Pharmacopoeia Secretariat,
within the European Directorate for quality of medicines, hello.
Can't find anything about safety. But the European
Pharmacopoeia Secretariat also has the responsibility for
developing legally binding monographs to ensure appropriate
quality control and harmonized quality standards across
manufacturers. What does that mean?
John C. Dvorak: Does it mean anything? No,
Adam Curry: it's just a bunch of gobbly gook. And that's it. So
in addition, all vaccines and pharmaceuticals are monitored
after release onto the market for adverse events. This
surveillance allows both to refine the safety profile
established during the product development and to detect rare
events that may not have been apparent during the clinical
development. It's always rare, isn't it? Yeah, rare. So I can't
if anyone can find anything, please. I appreciate that. I'm
not very hopeful. And in New Hampshire. I think this is a is
this an AP report. The Keene area child believed to be
infected with measles. This report says this Concord, New
Hampshire was probably experiencing a reaction from the
measles vaccine so public you're not at risk of a measles
outbreak state state health officials said. So now, we've
about 5% of individuals vaccinated with the MMR vaccine
develop a fever and rash reactions, these reactions
happen because the body is responding to the vaccine. But
the everyone said oh, the kid has the measles, which of course
he did. I don't know. It's just interesting. Well,
John C. Dvorak: we still have a bola going on.
Adam Curry: In Congo, where the pig Ebola get
John C. Dvorak: the Ebola report here. They're from I think a CBS
they got one woman one lone reporter is in the area,
reporting on a bola and this is her
two year old charity fights for her life in this Ebola treatment
center. She was admitted today with her critically ill mother
kubwa Sufi, who lives isolated in another plastic cube, too
sick to attend to her little girl. There have been major
advances in the treatment of Ebola since the last deadly
outbreak in 2014. Now patients are putting these plastic tubes
which provides a protective barrier between the doctor and
the patient. There's also a new vaccine which should be good
Democrat The Republic of Congo in its fight against its
deadliest outbreak to date, except this epidemic is in a war
zone. World Health Ebola manager Dr. Michel Yao told us their
hospitals are repeatedly being targeted by the more than 30
armed militia groups roaming the forests around the hot zones.
Adam Curry: Anytime that you have an accident, it take weeks
to recover.
John C. Dvorak: But the violence has not deterred Esperance.
Lucinda, from her work at the UNICEF children's unit. She
herself has an Ebola survivor. Here, they don't wear protective
gear, as survivors are immune from further infection. The
survivors look after babies suspected of contracting the
virus, but who desperately need a loving touch in order to
thrive?
Unknown: Just see me now on the label now I'm not afraid
John C. Dvorak: of Ebola was sent a tells us I'm afraid of
the violence.
Yeah, that was interesting. They have a bunch of these Ebola
survivors and they're just roaming around freely and they
do all kinds of work that you would normally nobody in their
right mind would do.
Adam Curry: And that situation is very fuzzy, at best. And it's
used and they're using it on the ground as fear tactics. And one
of our producers works with someone who's a family member of
the current Congolese King, we'll just call him the king and
apparently the people were freaked out about the whole
election they had roared dousing muscles and alcohol or their
hands if because, you know, they they voted on the machines and
they didn't like touching the machines and everyone's you
know, cleaning their hands the whole time. People didn't show
up. It's just used as control. And now the Chinese the Chinese
official state news is saying hey, don't worry about it. We
have a we have a vaccine in the works for pig Ebola. It's all
going to be okay. Don't look over here. There's nothing wrong
with our with our pork industry.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, I haven't heard this. Well, it's
Adam Curry: the Chinese
John C. Dvorak: about that poor sign fever.
Adam Curry: Yes. The African swine flu I believe is the way
they're calling it here vaccines tested. This is China News. the
CNS, China News Service. Chinese scientists have successfully
developed to vaccine candidates for African swine fever virus,
the Chinese Academy of Agricultural Sciences announced
Friday. Lab tests have shown the candidates are biologically safe
and effective and virus immunization, their safety and
effectiveness indexes are superior to similar research
achievements in other countries. So I guess we're good. It's all
over. Don't worry about it. You know, the Chinese lie about this
stuff?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Well, in producing enough to inoculate
every pig in China, it's no way I don't think you could do it.
Adam Curry: Now the kid the pigs that have died now is already
more than we have in America. Crazy. The BBC did a great job
on some more propaganda about Syria, and I'm not quite sure.
Do you have any idea why the Neo cons want us to stay in Syria or
want to still go and get Assad? Is it? I mean, is it something
that I'm missing? Is it still the same old crap that we're
dealing with?
John C. Dvorak: The assess clerk seven Oh, that could be the I
Have No I've never been I've never fully understood what the
Neo cons are trying to accomplish. Be honest about it
set verbalize
Adam Curry: also Syria. And we already now have UN reports that
the White Helmets stage stuff that the chlorine attack was
staged you had the report just two days ago, were they still
Oh, they must have killed 23 people for no reason? No, that
was probably all fake and acted as well. And so these are all,
you know, kind of the definition of false flags to draw foreign
war into into the region, the US and France and Britain in the
BBC is just not stopping
Unknown: documents leaked from intelligence organizations in
Syria suggest that human rights violations in the war there were
premeditated and planned by the government. More than 5000 pages
of information had been obtained by campaigners in Washington.
They include this text written allegedly by senior government
security officials, which we've translated and voiced.
Adam Curry: I have never heard the BBC do this. So there's some
text that some document that apparently was found and we're
gonna find out who found it in a minute, which is hilarious. They
translated it and then they have some Arab. National read it.
Have you ever heard the BBC do this?
John C. Dvorak: No, not really. It gives
Adam Curry: it a whole different spin instead of just hey, here's
what the occupants said, no, no, we got an actor to voice in
Unknown: Washington. They include this text written
allegedly by senior government security officials, which we've
translated and voiced.
We received information that terrorists are being treated in
Albert hospital in a restaurant in homes, we suggest to bomb it
with artillery,
and three days later the hospital mentioned was bombed.
I've been speaking to Mohamed Al Abdullah, Executive Director of
the Syria Justice and Accountability Center in
Washington DC, and one of the people gathering the evidence
and writing a report based on the documents.
Adam Curry: This is just like one of those Jumoke sitting in a
in an apartment in in London. No, no sounds Oh, yes, this is a
serious observation guys in DC.
John C. Dvorak: I asked him how he got ahold of the information
in the first place.
Unknown: So basically, these documents were rescued and saved
from abandoned security intelligence buildings from
inside Syria during the conflict. And also there's other
sets of documents where were extracted by other organization
partner organization, you
will understand that many people have a vested interest in faking
evidence in the Syrian conflict, you're absolutely sure that this
is genuine stuff. Are you?
Absolutely sure this is genuine to ask you a few.
Adam Curry: Let me just step back. So this is the BBC, BBC
World News, world renowned news. Have some guys on who are some
think tank in Washington DC for Syria? And he says, now there's
a lot of fakery going on. Are you sure this is the real deal?
Oh, yeah, we're sure. And that's cool with the BBC. To me. This
is this is a great report, organization
Unknown: partner organization,
you will understand that many people have a vested interest in
faking evidence in the Syrian conflict, you're absolutely sure
that this is genuine stuff. Are you?
Absolutely sure this is genuine, secured and preserved by our own
team, we have records and videos and films inside the security
intelligence buildings. And we took this video inside the
division also to counter the narrative that ICRC continued to
deny that humanitarian aid is ending in Assad's hand as well,
is what we've just heard potentially a smoking gun in
terms of court evidence in the future against the Syrian
government.
I hope so. Yes, absolutely. This is what we're trying to do.
That's why we've rescued these documents. And that's why we've
done this really lengthy process of analyzing 1000s of pages
do these documents prove? Do you think that President Assad is
personally responsible for the atrocities that do that you
document? We
have not seen any documents signed by Bashar Al Assad
himself and analysis so far there but however, the nature of
the orders that sincerity and ranking of officials who signed
these documents and the nature of weapons deployed to conduct
and deliver these attacks all suggest this is coordinated at
the highest level and Masha Allah said is if not organic, at
least he's aware.
That was Mohamed Al Abdullah who's head of the Syria Justice
and Accountability Center a campaign group in Washington DC
you're listening to the BBC World Service
Adam Curry: outstanding work BBC.
John C. Dvorak: No, I have no idea I don't know why this
continues but it just it does continue to something either
some untold cache of oil that we're not
Adam Curry: it could still be the Russia thing. Yeah, the
Russian is
John C. Dvorak: right as I'm doing the Russia gate as I'm do
with Israel. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Guys, just the headshake or to me that the BBC
I mean, that is clearly propaganda
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you sure this
Adam Curry: is the real deal? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we took we got
it ourselves. We got video of us getting it
John C. Dvorak: I don't know. Did you thing another clip here?
What is this? This is the this is some kind of interesting. I
don't know anything about this. And I heard this clip. I played
this insider dope on the Oh no, this is something else. So they
had this woman I thought there should be kind of a just an
interesting educational segment. This woman is an ex CIA. She's a
specialist and discusses the disguise specialist at the
agency. In her name is Jonah. Gianna, John. And you mentioned
Adam Curry: this to me maybe after a show or something? Yeah,
that was Yeah, that's right.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And this is her talking about how people
use aliases and I thought I just for some reason found this to be
fascinate because I didn't know any of this
alias. Names CIA are closely controlled, they are managed
they are assigned to you. My name is number two, you end up
with a name for your entire working career. Your true Name
is never on paper overseas room a baby Oprah would probably not
be one of those names is my wife Oprah any name that really drew
attention would not be one of those names Cunningham was it
that she cut in half couldn't be but we always had a middle
initial changes my middle name, he always had three names. I
mean, you could abbreviate the middle initial, but you always
had three names often
Adam Curry: QA the three names is interesting, exact QA,
because whenever whenever we got someone killing a whole bunch of
people, usually three names. Yep. Which means they had a CIA
name to start with possibly.
John C. Dvorak: That's possible.
Adam Curry: I love that fantastic. So show my name
sorry.
John C. Dvorak: So she said yeah, before you go on. Before a
show she said everyone has assigned three names do you tend
to use three? And I talked about your old theories about these
phony the ones we had in the six week cycle was always some
always always three
Adam Curry: names. Always a three Neymar Yeah. Adam Clark
curry.
Unknown: I'm going to show my school by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
John C. Dvorak: you say we do have a few people saying not
many of them with three names.
Adam Curry: That we know. Oh sir. Mark Hall. Let me just read
this for a second. Do you Adam and John great shows of late
Happy belated birthday, John and hundo to Adam for boxes and
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Adam Curry: up wait a minute, that's voice zero. Yeah, no, I
John C. Dvorak: saw this too.
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Congratulations with your marriage Adam and Tina and heck
why not to you as well John and Mimi, LOL much love from your
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Adam Curry: I know that. There's a couple of things that went
wrong here. So we we got his donation on the previous show
somehow, we wish them happy birthday which was a little too
early. But he actually became a night so he will be Saru ward of
Mark Ness. And he wants Beaujolais and rebel ashong.
Mostly a rebel or Shawn What is this? Just a wine I'm not
familiar with rebel Sean,
John C. Dvorak: is that a cheese?
Adam Curry: I have no idea. Beaujolais I know. He will be 46
on the 29th in the morning, John Adam with all the new attendance
at the roundtable on the last show I got thinking about my own
journey to knighthood. had a feeling I was getting close to
joining that illustrious crowd but never bothered to check
until now turns out to my surprise, I have claimed that I
could have claimed to title months ago. So henceforth I
would like to be known as Sir reward of Mark Ness. And we'd
like to find Beaujolais a Robles shown at the round table. Thank
you very much for your courage and I am going to order that
right now for the ceremony. Thank you for your courage.
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John C. Dvorak: Yes, as an F cancer he needs for a colleague.
Adam Curry: Oh, you know, I'm gonna give that to him right
now.
Unknown: You've got karma was
Adam Curry: interesting is he Yeah, he sent the donation note
to your email. And it got bounced back because it
contained porn. But it didn't. It's just he asked for an F
cancer.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I just want my point earlier. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, that's your setup.
John C. Dvorak: I don't think yes, it's your
Adam Curry: your mail guy your Yeah, it is your squirrel mail
guy. I saw the headers it came from your server.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, again, my point is well made.
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We have a couple of douchebag call outs in here. But I don't
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Adam Curry: Yes, we have it here. Arrogance. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: He's got a couple he's not at night. Mark
Beecham of Melbourne for one. long winded note and people
gotta tighten these douchebag call outs
Adam Curry: while he's because he's become an ease. He says I
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out the bloke who hit him in the mouth hasn't donated. That is
Mark Beecham of Melbourne. And that's the only one so let me
just make sure he is on the list for knighting today, which I
think he is. Yes. And yeah. What does he want again at the
roundtable? Two interesting requests for roundtable, Corona
extra and peanut butter m&ms. Got it. Okay. Thank you very
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John C. Dvorak: Just got an anonymous queasy.
Adam Curry: I just I just showed up
John C. Dvorak: one or two cord.
Adam Curry: It's the big one. Yeah. It's nice. Okay, we just
have one is an Amazon Amazon Amazon shipment but there was no
note No.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Amazon fails to put notes and they're
supposed to put notes it was in a big giant gift bag.
Adam Curry: No, it wasn't in a gift bag. It was just in a box.
And that was it. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: ever seen. You said you send as a gift you
check that box and you it's just a bag?
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Or you say I want I want to add a note and
they just print off a piece of paper with a note. Yes, thanks.
It's not even a nice card or anything.
John C. Dvorak: No, no. And it's a bag. The bag is just some
cheap bagged. Throw everything in.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's still there's still talk of me being
one of the hosts of the European Song Festival for 2020. I think
it'd be ideal. If not, I do have a backup. The millennials here
had a great idea. We should do a twitch a Twitch stream makes so
much sense. I mean, think about it. And we could actually make
money while doing it.
Unknown: You know their work is make money. While Twitch
Adam Curry: has a whole financial thing that people can
know. I didn't know that. Yeah, they hit a button and then money
just pops into your account. Oh, nice. Yeah. So so we can
literally just be showing a monitor of whatever's happening.
And we can be You're off camera, doing our snarky voiceover and
if people like it clean clean clean they'll just be sending us
money. I think this is fantastic good ideas every
John C. Dvorak: one liner
Adam Curry: yes yeah i We can do this job we can do is we have a
whole year to prepare expecting that we
John C. Dvorak: will do it.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, I'm not going to be hosting this show.
You know this is like no one's gonna let that happen. You'll be
John C. Dvorak: hosting the show that then we won't do it. I do
by myself. And what is Adam will get it totally crap. What is who
made him up? Do they have makeup artists there on the show that
they actually do what they're doing? He looks like an old
transvestite.
Adam Curry: Okay, thank you. I wanted to I wanted to say
something about them. Just hope he doesn't
John C. Dvorak: dance.
Adam Curry: Yeah, no kidding.
John C. Dvorak: Wow. Now
Adam Curry: this milkshake mania. I wanted to talk about
that first.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, she's I didn't really thought about
talking about but you're right is probably worth talking which
I should talk about it. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's very important. So Nigel Farage was walking
around. Someone threw a milkshake over him. This is now
a thing you know. And that was interesting. Even on the
someone. Someone sent me a link from some a hole somewhere on
Reddit saying, Oh, John Adams should be worried they're going
to be throwing milkshakes. And I want to, I want to say,
John C. Dvorak: don't you remember the pie era? Well, no.
Here there's a little era about seven, eight years ago, people
got a pie in the face. Well, some Pie Guy this pie character.
I'm going Gates got a pie on his face.
Adam Curry: Well, milkshakes are different for a very specific
reason. But first, I want to go back to the year 2000. Pim for
10. Two weeks before he was assassinated. People were
throwing cakes in his face. Yeah. And when and I did some
research on this. There is a when people start throwing food,
that it is an actual act of desperation. Because food has
value and and more importantly, there is a connection between us
and primates, apes chimpanzees who throw shit. And I believe
that the milkshake particularly the chocolate milkshake is a
very primal thing that is deep in us as it's a metaphor for
throwing feces at somebody. But it is
John C. Dvorak: what did Faraj have a chocolate Yes, chocolate
shake,
Adam Curry: I believe it is a extremely violent act. And it
should not be tolerated. It's not funny. And it it pretty much
always leads to something bad. The people who do this have a
screw loose. It's different from hitting someone which is a whole
different area. But when you do the milkshake, it is a primal
scream of frustration and anyone who does that is odd is in my
mind. Borderline dangerous.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I agree. It's a it was a strawberry
shake.
Adam Curry: Well, that's
John C. Dvorak: is that mean?
Adam Curry: I don't know. It's not dark enough to look like
feces. But I think the comparison still holds. It is it
cannot it's not funny. It should not be allowed people who do
this need to be dealt with it is very, very violent. And it's and
people who do this on the verge of a psychological breakdown.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this guy was a fanatical Remainer and a
Corbin fan. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, the people who did that to him 14 before he was
assassinated were Anna animal rights activist greenies. And
one of them ate not the same one but one of the same persuasion
wound up assassinating him shooting him in the head in his
right right to his face Boom Boom goodbye. And by the way
he's now out free walking around he served his time it's crazy
country the Netherlands that works
John C. Dvorak: guys should be locked up for good
Adam Curry: no we don't have that in the in the Netherlands
is no locked up for good. In fact, there's often a joke it's
easier to kill your wife than to divorce her much much cheaper is
much less hassle and a couple of years in jail you're good to go.
John C. Dvorak: Sounds like Yeah.
Adam Curry: I have nothing more to add other than this is not
funny. It should be dealt with as an extremely is a violent
act. It's a violent act. And don't try that in Texas. Oh,
Unknown: bad idea in Texas.
John C. Dvorak: So I found they found a very funny clip demo.
accuracy now did which is gonna be surprises. You know? You
always have to wonder how serious everybody is about
things when you have a clip like this floating around, it doesn't
get any play. This is Lindsey Graham discussing impeachment.
There's just the basic theories of impeachment. I believe this
is during the Clinton administration when he was still
a congressman. And sorry, part yeah, and he could take part in
impeachment proceedings.
In 1999. Then Congressman Graham argued for the impeachment of
President Bill Clinton for seeking to hide evidence of his
affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, this is what he
said. You don't even have to be convicted of a crime to lose
your job. In this constitutional republic. This body determines
that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of
bounds in your role. Because impeachment is not about
punishment. impeachment is about cleansing the office.
impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the
office. All right.
I thought that was pretty good. was not what I seek is bullcrap.
And nobody's ever to go along with the program because of the
fact that in Congress is corrupt. Yes. So they're not you
know, they feel guilty about you know, go well, he's corrupt. Is
he more corrupt than I am? I don't know. Do more corrupt and
Adam Schiff?
Unknown: That guy?
Adam Curry: Did you hear what happened? And now only Wolf, did
you hear this? No. Oh, this was fantastic. So she's written a
book. I don't have the whole backstory that might see the
book here somewhere. The book is about outrage, killing, killing
people for just for who they love. Here it is.
John C. Dvorak: I always get Naomi Wolf, mixed up with Naomi
Klein.
Adam Curry: This is a show problem in general. We do this
all the time.
John C. Dvorak: And they're both left wing nuts. And but one of
them is actually got some reasonable, you know, logic to
her where she goes about her business, I think, I think
Woolston one I particularly don't like what she's the
Adam Curry: author of the book vagina, and the forthcoming
book, outrageous sex censorship and the criminalization of love.
And she expected her teacher, she expected to discuss the
historical revelations about people being killed for being
gay, basically. And she went on the BBC to promote this. And now
this book is coming out in a week from now. And the host did
something phenomenal. He looked up some of the stuff that was in
the book. And it turns out, she had misinterpreted that
important term when it comes to killing people for who they
love. And this in this case, it's about buggery, in gay acts.
And the BBC host just basically ruined her entire book before it
even hit Amazon
Unknown: sentences, as I mentioned, of penal servitude
for 10 or 15 years, and I found like, several dozen executions.
But that was again, only looking at the Old Bailey records in the
crime tables. Execution correct. And this correct amiss
apprehension? That is in every website that the last man was
executed for sodomy, in Britain in 1835.
I don't I don't think you're right about this. One of the
cases that you look at that that's salient in your report is
that of Thomas silver, it says to teenagers will now convicted
more often indeed that year, which is 18 5914 year old Thomas
silver was actually executed for committing sodomy, the boy who
was indicted for an unnatural offense, guilty death recorded
this is the first time the phrase on natural offense and to
the Old Bailey records. Thomas Silva wasn't executed. Death
recorded I was really surprised by this, and I looked it up
death recorded is that is what in I think most of these cases
that you've, you've identified as executions, it doesn't mean
that he was executed. It was a category that was created in
1823, that allowed judges to abstain from pronouncing a
sentence of death on any capital convict whom they consider to be
a fit subject for pardon. I don't think any of the
executions you've identified here actually happened.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that's a really important thing to
investigate. What is your what is your understanding of what
death recorded means? Yes,
Unknown: recorded. This is also from that I've just read you the
definition of it there from the Old Bailey web. So, I've got
here a newspaper report about Thomas silver, and also
something from from the prison records that that showed the
date of his discharge. The prisoner
was found guilty and sentence of death was recorded. Yeah. We
recommended the prisoner to Mercy on account of his youth.
So he I think this I think this is a kind of when I found this,
I didn't really know what to do with it, because I think it is,
I think it's quite a big problem with your argument. Also, it's
the nature of the offense here. Thomas Silva committed an
indecent assault on a six year old boy.
Adam Curry: So, oops, God, that's horrible. What happens as
a publisher is going well, we have fact checkers, but
ultimately, we rely on the author. What happens in a case
like this? I mean, can they pull the book back still or printed?
John C. Dvorak: They actually should pull the book back?
Adam Curry: Of course they have to the whole premise of the
book. It's about being condemned and killed for loving who you
love. This is what that's like your vinegar book, you know,
like all of a sudden, yeah, well, vinegar kills you. I don't
know something what happened? I think you're smart actually, for
for delaying the release, make sure you have all your your T's
crossed and your eyes dotted do
John C. Dvorak: more and more weird stuff about vinegar. We're
doing some more. Mimi's gotten into this vinegar thing. Now
some crazy stuff. She's taking
Adam Curry: the shaming to heart. No. All right, we have a
number of end of show clips. As mentioned earlier, Sir Chris,
the drunken drunkard minstrel that song is titled The keeper.
It's an original that soon available on compact discs and
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light, but she
donates to the show
John C. Dvorak: yeah with packing light I would put a high
priority on
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Adam Curry: nickname according to the chat room Tina the
keeper.
John C. Dvorak: Tina the keeper and she'd be keeping you
Unknown: walked into the cabinet room. You had the group crying
chuck
Adam Curry: to watch what happened in the White House
would make your jaw drop.
John C. Dvorak: Crazy Nancy I tell you what, I've been
watching her and I have I have been watching her for a long
period of time. She's not the same person job. Bob boss she's
not the same person she's lost you all saw me minutes later I
was at a news conference I was extremely calm, calm or New York
I was probably even more so in that room so I was extremely
calm calm on both channels gather
Unknown: gathered in mass is a memo that describes how we're
going to take out seven countries in five years. Just
like witches that black Master
John C. Dvorak: is when I first came to office one of the first
meetings I had was at the Pentagon with generals evil
minds that blood
Unknown: destruction
John C. Dvorak: Bolton has always said let's go to war but
he's not the one who's gonna go on the forefront. He's a coward.
Adam Curry: Deaths construction. leaders of Iran are racketeers
John C. Dvorak: behind every problem is Iran what you said
Unknown: 2016 I liked it when you said no more stupid wars.
You got a rogue president in the White House surrounded by these
Uber hawks that thirst for another war with Iran.
International Atomic Energy Agency
Adam Curry: has never found Iran in contravention of stipulations
in the deal.
Unknown: If Iran wants to fight that will be
John C. Dvorak: the official end of Iran never threaten the
United States. Again, I'm not
Unknown: somebody that wants to go into
war in the United States heading towards another Middle East
showdown this time with Iran.
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