Adam Curry: Are they hiring people on voice anymore on NPR
or are they just hiring anybody? I don't know.
Unknown: Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Sunday, May 5 2019. This is your award winning get
my nation media assassination episode 1135.
Unknown: This is no agenda. Celebrating several
Adam Curry: CEOs and broadcasting live from the
frontier of Austin, Texas Capitol drove Star State in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where
everybody's celebrating Cinco de Mayo. I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan
Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: Wow, was that your Mexican thing? It's very
authentic.
John C. Dvorak: As opposed to what? I don't know. I don't have
my guitar.
Adam Curry: Well, Happy Cinco de Mayo. Junk lower by
John C. Dvorak: sombrero.
Adam Curry: Yes, yes.
John C. Dvorak: So a bunch of other events today. If you look
on the list, it's unbelievable. How many things are going on the
day like this? Well, you know, you know, five, this is the
night you know, for 405 and do for the first No, I'm sorry, the
first perfect game was pitched by Cy Young. I put that in the
newsletter, but it says nobody got the newsletter. I thought I
mentioned it on the show.
Adam Curry: Now is this really true? Is this what happened that
people didn't receive? I received it. But of course I
don't use Gmail. And it was a good newsletter at
John C. Dvorak: Gmail phenomenon. I think it's
MailChimp. tell you why I say that. Because of all the
different ones. There are a lot of people that use Gmail in the
background. But it was I asked and I got note after note after
No, no, I looked here I looked in spam. I looked at trash, I
didn't see it. And I wrote all their names down. And this like
dozens. And I'm sure that most people, you know, some people
won't even get the second note. But it takes a little effort to
just I'm sure that the the names and email addresses I received
back saying they never could find it is only a portion
because most people aren't going to bother. Do
Adam Curry: I have a theory about it? I might my theory now
we were celebrating different Santos today. And my theory is
that Theo adorables picture broke the internet.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. If actually such that could be, but
somebody actually came up with a very interesting, a little out
there and a little creepy explanation, which I noted might
be a possibility. All right. In the caption on his picture in
particular, I mentioned bank passwords.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right for yet. And it was family passwords
and bank accounts or something like that. Yeah. And you think
that they're going that deep into the content to filter out
and that would be dangerous or? Well, I guess it would be seen
as spam. Yeah, passwords bank. Or at least suspicious? Well,
the thing that got me is, man, this kid looks just like you.
That's I couldn't get past that.
John C. Dvorak: He looks just like my son actually.
Adam Curry: Wow, dude. He's a little mini JCD if I ever saw
one people's mouths fall open when they see that picture of
him. Way to exploit them. By the way, Gramps. Good job.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Nobody gets the email.
Adam Curry: Well, all right. So it's a Cinco de Mayo for Mexico.
It is Theodore Bowles. Is it second birthday third? Second
second birthday.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I'm on the list by the way. I never put
them on the list.
Adam Curry: That's interesting. No one put them on a list the
whole Devorah clan left out the door abused the kid for the
newsletter. But don't give them any any props or anything in the
show. So who should I say this is coming from? Is it from
grandpa John?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you say guess what does he call you?
He's not a talker.
Adam Curry: Okay, he's not a doctor.
Well, I'd say as long as he's the entire time he's not a taco
talker is probably good.
John C. Dvorak: Once they start, it's all over. Yak, yak, yak,
yak yak.
Adam Curry: It is also Liberation Day in the
Netherlands which is celebrated quite largely. Yeah, with the
day used to be
John C. Dvorak: EU day today. I think they've moved us to the
ninth to the nine
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah. They moved it to the ninth I don't
know if anyone actually celebrates it. What do they do
on EU day? No. It's okay because we will be able to we will be
able to celebrate it on the next show. I believe the ninth is
Thursday so it works out perfectly. We can still
participate in EU day night and today is also mine the keepers
The fourth anniversary of our first date.
John C. Dvorak: Do you have an anniversary of your first kiss
too?
Adam Curry: It is interesting how women do keep track of
dates. Mine does. Because actually, today was the 15th.
John C. Dvorak: Are you claiming ownership? You said mine?
Adam Curry: Mine was fine. What?
John C. Dvorak: Are you claiming ownership of this woman?
Adam Curry: Oh, hell yeah. I put a ring on that. That's when
that's where you get to own it. And although the question is
who's really owned here and the relationship? Yeah, let's see,
we celebrated last night we went out to dinner for we went to one
of our favorite places when we live downtown, which you can
only go to once in a while. It's true Lux.
John C. Dvorak: Yesterday we talked about. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was nice. Ah, so yeah. So lots to
celebrate today. Congratulations, everybody. And
I wanted to jump in with Venezuela for a very specific
reason, because I received after the last show, I received three
separate emails, one was addressed to both of us. And
John, you replied to it. Did you remember when Hillary Clinton
State Department was recruiting and training technical experts?
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that we made a big deal about that on
the show. Yeah, she had techno experts in there. That's when
they that's when the internet in a box was available.
Adam Curry: That was part of it. And they were training kids all
over the world and getting him special, special techno expert
universities.
John C. Dvorak: And that was eventually handed over to Soros.
Well,
Adam Curry: I have a feeling that we've looked at this at
this attempted coup. And pretty much what we said on the last
show was, okay, we see what's going on. But this is this is
50s 50s ideas. I said 80s you correctly took it back to the
50s. They're doing it in a way that is wag the dog style, you
know, it's not working, we're not falling for television
doesn't work the same. So now they bring out I think the
techno experts and for some bizarre reason they've latched
on to us, which could mean that we're of some importance. I
don't know, we're I probably think we're just on a list in
the State Department. But all of these emails were the same,
except they were from different people. And I found this to be
interesting. So read this. Yeah, only
John C. Dvorak: got it. Well, let's say that I got the one
which I responded to. And now that you mentioned it was didn't
really make any sense because it was not based on anything we
said, Well, exactly. So that's why I didn't know if I got the
other two. You said no, no,
Adam Curry: the other two were just to me. So I don't know if
you got any individually, but they were only sent to me. So
the one the one that you reply to was from
John C. Dvorak: once you read it and read my reply. Oh, okay.
Adam Curry: Well, you don't have your reply handy.
John C. Dvorak: No, I'm not ready for this segment. So of
course,
Adam Curry: you should always be ready.
Excuse me, Adam And, John, you must correct your stance on
Venezuela. You have many donors belonging to the Venezuela
diaspora and Trump slash Magga supporters. You must support
President Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo, Elliott Abrams and John
Bolton in seeking freedom and democracy for the Venezuelan
people, just like you currently enjoy. This is where I'm already
like, you're putting all those people into the same list. It's
like and we're supposed to support those those douchebags.
Nicolas Maduro is an evil authoritarian dictator who has
turned our once wealthy and flourishing country into a
basket case. And here comes the common thread. Please watch the
video from Dr. Steve botanic on YouTube. It is highly
educational and informative. And there's a link. I'm sure if you
change your stance donations will rapidly increase and will
highlight the revolutionary success of the value for value
model. Last but not least, as an American you should genuinely
support the dismantling of Russian Chinese Iranian
Hezbollah Narco terror project in Venezuela. And to which you
responded. I didn't actually put the response in my show notes on
my show prep, but I have it here somewhere.
I thought it was thought I did at least well, what would you
have said if if you remember what
John C. Dvorak: it was that you know what we're not here? I
said, Yeah, we don't like the Maduro guy. We never liked
Chavez. But we're here to deconstruct news and make news
more understandable for the public. And we're not here to
promote revolution any place it's not what we do. We're dues
and analysts period. Then I left it at that because that's what
we do. We don't we're not here to pound the drum for some
operation.
Adam Curry: Interestingly, interestingly, we think we even
said yeah, you know, we see what's going on. We can have
ballistic missiles from the Russians just like the Cuba
crisis, quote too close to us. But Trump should just be honest
and say, here's what we're doing. Here's what we're doing
about it. So here's the next Texas Tech no expert. The
similarities are interesting. You sir, dearest Adam curry your
wrist Dyrus you can almost hear the the form letter. You sir,
are misleading your viewers to this person. Wait, hold on. This
is a new one. Yeah, this is a second one. Yeah, viewers. Yeah.
So they don't don't even know what the show is. But listen,
because it's the same as what you receive. So this person does
not know that there's nothing to view so they've never heard the
show. You, sir, are misleading your viewers and painting a CIA
led conspiracy theory on Venezuela. This behavior is
utterly shameful and short sighted. The Venezuelan people
are struggling under a horrific, brutal regime where women are
raped and children are tortured as political intimidation and
retribution. As you have cited numerous times. Here it is. Dr.
Steve polygenic is an individual of impeccable standing and
credibility in the field of Foreign Affairs. I hereby refer
you refer you to his YouTube video on the matter, titled Opus
147 Venezuela coup slow start, you will find facts that you
should repeat to your viewers on the show this coming Sunday.
Hello Viewers pay attention. President Trump and his national
security team are working diligently and effortlessly to
bring peace, tranquility and prosperity to the Venezuelan
people. Unfortunately, the illegal Maduro regime and its
enablers Russia, Iran, Cuba and Hezbollah stand in the way. We
Venezuelan people wholeheartedly welcome and encouraged Trump to
take the next step military intervention whether in the form
of ground troops or precision strikes against the Maduro
regime. The suffering cannot continue. Please do not be
another enabler of the Maduro communist regime. We witnessed
enough of that with Code Pink and Ilan Omar, your criticism of
John Bolton and Elliott Abrams is untoward. Unto Ward Wow, who
says that anymore? Done toward the 50s they have rushed? Yes,
there you go. They have ushered in prospering democracies in
Latin America that have replaced totalitarian dictatorships.
Okay, what name one best wishes Rodolfo, so you see the
commonalities. And then the third one. Dear Mr. Curry with
utmost interest, I listened to your show episode 1134 titled
opinion people in which you discuss the crisis in Venezuela.
Your views are not acceptable to the grayling people. We are
suffering under the vicious dictator Nicolas Maduro, who has
used our country to provide safe haven to Russians, Cubans,
Iranians and Lebanese terrorist group Hezbollah. They will use
Venezuelan territory to instigate and launch attacks
against the United States and its people. This is a threat to
you and your family safety in highest level of an illegitimate
Venezuelan Government right hand man to Maduro is Lebanese
Hezbollah operative Tarek al Osama as I saw me, The New York
Times expose his illegal activities and a bombshell
report a few days ago link. He has used Venezuelan national
resources to prop up Syria and mass murdering dictator who
gassed his own people Bashar Al Assad till now he sends to Syria
Vinhas oil to prop up Russian puppet Assad. He's formerly ally
of that goes on and on and on. I hope you reconsider and change
your tune for your show on Sunday, you must support
liberation of Venezuela from crutches of these entities
Bolton Abrams have the best interest of the Venezuelan
people. I suggest you listen to Dr. Steve magenic, who supports
the liberation of Venezuelan people through coup or military
action. We understand if Trump must use military and precision
strikes against Venezuelan Government to liberate us. You
have previously stated Dr. Steve is knowledgeable on these
matters. Listen to him and repeat on your show. From Mr.
Alec on your show, Mr. Alejandro VAs squares who was an engineer
and techno consult apparently. So this is coordinated obviously
the biggest commonality of of interest is botanic and the
botanic link so maybe I guess Chantix running an app could be
and these are his people or maybe form I don't know who it
is
John C. Dvorak: maybe it's botanic but he put one in if
he's really good. He would put one of the mess one of the males
would say your viewers and yeah, and make it seem like this.
Could be well I
Adam Curry: was kind of happy when I got After like a week, we
matter. We matter in some small insignificant way. Someone cares
about what we say,
John C. Dvorak: well, what it says to me is that I wasted my
time with my email back to this guy because it went felt it. No,
he fell on deaf ears but didn't even go to anybody. This was not
there's not nothing to respond to on this, you can't even get
to a back and forth. Because these are just a barrage.
Adam Curry: Barrage, only three is not a barrage.
John C. Dvorak: But they could be if it would if it was more
of. I'm sure somebody, some people get barrages. And we
could get a barrage at some point. But but it would be too
obvious. The problem with us is that says all we really do is
deconstruct stuff. We don't take sides necessarily. I mean, we
takes some way of a sign here and there. But since we don't
take says we mostly in the deconstruction, they can't send
us a barrage because it would be too obvious. There was obviously
the only three, what are they going to do now? Because we
actually read the emails, we actually analyze the emails and
we find three sketchy emails that come in pretty much
formulaic, and we identify him immediately and then report on
him what it would do, you can't be sending us stuff like this,
Adam Curry: it appears to me that this sushi, this is a
continuation of their 50 1950 strategies. The way they're
doing this, I mean, it's not just douchey it's short sighted
and just dumb. I mean, how are we not going to figure this out?
So they take a bunch of someone's taking a bunch of
techno experts, and I personally, I'm thinking our own
State Department would do this. I'm sure that's what they have.
They have lists of important podcasts, I'm sure Rogan is
getting getting emails and you know, whoever else, if you
manage if you mentioned Venezuela in the wrong way, then
you get an email from the State Department. There even even what
they're doing, I'm in mainstream. So this is from the
BBC, they're still using? Well, in this case, I'll say the memes
from the 80s to get everybody all riled up. This is a spokes
hole for guaido. A Vanessa Neumann and she's talking to the
BBC One let's talk to one way those representative here in the
UK, she's Dr. Vanessa Neumann, welcome
Unknown: to the program that yesterday was a disaster for
you, wasn't it?
No, absolutely not. In fact, we are keenly aware that this is
the beginning of a longer term operation. We know that this is
a protest, you do not overthrow a 20 year dictatorship, really,
in one day, especially with a military that is basically the
world's biggest drug cartel. And part of the reason why they are
not flipping is because they make $8.8 billion a year of
their illicit trade, which includes narcotics, weapons,
gasoline and the food that they provide to the little bit of
food that they provide to the starving people. This is
unstoppable. What we do have is that everybody from the middle
ranks on down. They are families in the in the military, their
families are also starving, they their children are also dying of
a lack of medicine, there is still oppression in the
barracks, do not forget that they operate in the state of
terror. So we have over 100 military commanders who have
previously attempted uprisings before the even the appearance
of why though, in order to come in, in line with the
Constitution, they are being tortured. So we are aware that
this is a protest we are fighting for, not just for our
freedom, but for our very lives. Our compatriots. So we know that
this is going now the military, can I just come in? They did not
fire on us. Yeah. Can we we have sense weakness? And we know we
can take it all the way.
Adam Curry: She's just not giving up. It's yeah, they're
starving us. And it's horrible. And then you always got to bring
this one in. Were you expecting their
Unknown: senior figures to come over to your side yesterday,
though, and and if so, you must be disappointed that they
suddenly back down? Well, I
think that, you know, this, this is a negotiation. I mean, I
think it's I think it's a disappointment that all military
will not, will not defend the Constitution. We are still
engaging them. President Juan guaido Is the constitutional
leader. What we have is Maduro is a leading a drug cartel,
which is the number one provider of narcotics to the United
Kingdom. That that won't step aside and let the Constitution
happen. So if we can the Constitution happened and we
think that eventually they will, we know that they Well, because
they're are actually still having those conversations.
They're still applying to take Maduro out.
Adam Curry: This woman lives in Britain, it's almost like the
Syrian observe observation group or whatever, which is one guy
John C. Dvorak: pretending to be tweeting from the frontlines.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: So it's, it's incredibly embarrassing,
John C. Dvorak: and he's just getting more kinky, but a
second,
Adam Curry: and did they have any way out?
I guess I guess you were joking about
John C. Dvorak: that. A guy's trying to overturn the
government and take over the place in the drug business for
themselves.
Adam Curry: While you say oil, I say there. I'm
John C. Dvorak: sorry, I don't expect to get any more notes.
Yeah, I don't know. They just like I said, I recall it what it
is was a Bosch. And its remains a botch, and now they're just
making it worse. They have to regroup.
Adam Curry: So how do I approach botanic about this? I got a
call. And I said, Dude, did you like send a whole bunch of
technical experts to me?
John C. Dvorak: Or, hey, well, definitely stop
Adam Curry: emailing me, Steve, about that, hey, stop emailing
me.
John C. Dvorak: But I would believe the following. He
doesn't even know. He probably has some hint at this. I don't
think he's behind it. Because he's got other things to do.
He's not interested, I'm sure I don't think he's ever listened.
And he doesn't listen to the show. And you should tell him
what's going on and that they're using him as leverage to that's,
that's the approach right? You're probably doing this with
everybody and, and it's apparently obvious to you
because you saw these messages, then he should do something
about it.
Adam Curry: All right. I will report back on Thursday. If
Thursday ever comes.
John C. Dvorak: It's gonna be a long week you think?
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know. It's like, you know, you start
messing with the techno experts.
John C. Dvorak: Techno experts or techno weenie?
Adam Curry: Do we have like a clip or something about the
techno experts? I'm sure we have something. State techno experts.
What's this?
Unknown: Oh, this question comes from our foresee feed at USA
door foresee. It's a two part question. Let
Adam Curry: me get to newlon technical experts
Unknown: on the support dating back. I think it's almost two
years now. There was support thing when Ambassador Ford was
still there, and he would go out to meet with the local
coordinating committees.
Adam Curry: And that's too long. What is this Hillary on meddling
with the
John C. Dvorak: way we stopped? Stop? There was something you
know, I talked about meal use and identifiable meal use by
voices.
Adam Curry: Yeah. That was Matt Lee.
John C. Dvorak: No, not him. The woman who did the opening
wordage. In that clip? Yes. He has the exact same voice and
probably from the same area of if you have the clip of the NPR
woman, the voice of the person asking the NPR woman about
funding.
Adam Curry: That's the hardest clipped to find that Oh, was
messed it up? So I'll take your word for it.
John C. Dvorak: But it's this exact same voice?
Adam Curry: Of course, how about this one,
Unknown: we're doing a lot of work to try to come up with
technologies that can circumvent the jamming and the
interruption. The tracking that the regime are engaged in right
now. You know, is more effective than others to use technology to
circumvent internet it is freedom of speech and being
entitled to but we have also seen the regime.
Adam Curry: It's about Iran anyway. I can't find I should
have. I should have looked for that earlier. Yes, techno
experts. I'll talk to him. We'll see what happens. See if
anything pops up. Yeah. And otherwise,
John C. Dvorak: I got nothing. Like he's being used as he's
being used as a tool.
Adam Curry: But to say that Elliott Abrams and Bolton are
good, guys. I don't care what pressure you're under.
John C. Dvorak: I agree with this. It's
Adam Curry: just not there's no no, they're just not. No, not in
John C. Dvorak: particular. Oh, Abrams. Xaviers was a music
cool. Yeah. He's terrible to terrible guys. Yep.
Adam Curry: But I hope that everyone in Venezuela gets what
they want. I do. I just want I just want people to no longer no
longer be sleeping under i 35. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it doesn't do you any good. And the I 35
problem.
Adam Curry: Are you step out of your car in the morning? You got
a needle right next to you,
John C. Dvorak: you know, or you're stepping in poop? Is that
human poop? Well, something couple of interesting things
going on. And I did get a reply. He hated to do it. But I did
follow the Miss USA.
Adam Curry: Oh, I missed it. When was this?
John C. Dvorak: It was Friday night or maybe it should have
been Saturday or Friday night.
Adam Curry: All right. Great. So you watched you saw something
you got the highlights sounds like
John C. Dvorak: watch because these shows are too long and
they're boring and they're dumb,
Adam Curry: but they're always political. And the questions are
funny, and that's why we follow it.
John C. Dvorak: That's pretty much all I do. And the thing
was, there was a there was a there was a overlaying overlay.
to explain it, but there were there was an IT overlay to the
to the event and the overlay consists of something going on
in the Bay Area. And I believe it's going on all across the
country. And it's called natural hair.
Unknown: That is this is a movement. Yes, big time.
John C. Dvorak: Let's listen to Nat. SB 188, one of ours,
California State Senators introducing bill, Senate Bill
188. To address this problem.
Unknown: Senate Bill 188 By Senator Mitchell and aqualane to
discrimination. Senator Mitchell.
Thank you very much, Madam President. Colleagues. Today I'm
presenting SB 188. The Crown act to the goal the act to create a
respectful and open workplace for natural hair. Colleagues.
The purpose of introducing this bill and bringing it before you
today is really twofold. First, to help dispel myths and educate
those of you who need it about the unique qualities of black
hair, its texture and the black hair experience. Secondly is to
challenge CommonHealth myths about what constitutes
professionalism in the workplace. Until very recently,
a Google image search for quote, unprofessional hairstyles
yielded only pictures of black women with their natural hair or
rate or wearing braids or twists. Although disheartening,
this fact was not very surprising. Eurocentric
standards of beauty have established the very
underpinnings of what was acceptable and attractive in the
media, and academic settings and in the workplace. And so even
though African Americans were no longer explicitly excluded from
the workplace, black features and mannerisms remained
unacceptable and quote, unprofessional. Until recent
decades, black men and women didn't often challenge these
standards. They donned wigs or straightened their hair with
harsh chemical relaxers to meet those Eurocentric standards.
Some people believe that this is an issue of the past that were
beyond such outright discrimination based on
appearance.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think I saw this or an article not but I
didn't know it was a that they don't have to pass but I didn't
know there was a law they were looking
John C. Dvorak: into this this past 37 zip. And so the well all
across the country. Their stories like this. This is the
gnat hair girl in Lake County.
Unknown: To change her locks,
they had a problem with
her natural hair. Fox 35 down
your llama is live on this one. She's in Lake County with her
story. Danielle, what's the problem here? Well, guys, we
started looking into this story when a mom called us upset her
straight A student was being singled out because of her hair.
We started making phone calls to the school mom had a meeting and
tonight there's a new dress code policy here at mon verd Academy.
People say they love my hair because it's so diverse and
curly and Afro centric.
16 year old Nicole or says she's known for her hair, but she
never thought she would be singled out in school because of
it.
I received a call saying that my daughter needed to get her hair
done. And she wears her hair natural. And I was kind of taken
aback by it.
Her parents say your school administrator contacted them and
said this violated their dress code. She literally felt that
wow, what's wrong with my hair?
The Caucasian girls are able to wear their natural hair
straight.
Why can I wear my natural hair, the way that it grows,
they were referred to the handbook where one line in
particular stood out
tread like hair. And so that could be ambiguous and it could
give you latitude to target a certain person or a certain
group.
Adam Curry: Oh, brother is this all in California?
John C. Dvorak: I believe this to be going on everywhere. And I
think it's part of a bigger movement. And it was confirmed
as important because Miss USA coincidentally has natural hair.
Okay. She's got that boobs just it's such a hair, her hair. It's
it's done. It's not as though it's just sticking out
everywhere. So it's quite attractive on her and she's a
beautiful woman. She was one of the prettiest girls and and made
it clear to us over and over referring to the fact that she's
a lawyer.
Adam Curry: This is a Chelsea Chris from North Carolina. Yes.
Yeah. It looks like giant Diana Ross had this hair for a while
in the late 70s 80s.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, and so it's a natural it's not a fro
No. It's just the hair just hanging all over the place and
attractively in this woman's case, but it's been cut and
trimmed and make the made to look the best it could. But it's
but it's part of a bigger scheme because all these things are
incremental. You don't just make a big fuss about some of this
obviously something you don't need to make a fuss about, but
they do it anyway. And so there's a bitching and moaning
about this natural hair and they have the students and I'm sure
there's other people can find stories around the country that
have this situation occurring. But this is a movement I noticed
this some years ago, and they started to big and they pulled
back and disappeared and they're deciding to go with it. Well,
where
Adam Curry: were these social justice warriors? When I got
fired once from my hair from MTV, they hired me back but they
fired me because I wouldn't cut it.
John C. Dvorak: You wouldn't cut it or you wouldn't cut the hair
I would not cut Come on. Yeah, so anyway, wouldn't cut the
hair. Justice words weren't out there. Now, the thing that I
picked up on this a long time ago to what this is really about
is to is to is to inc just start to increment because their
initial, the initial attempt to to in California was about it
was during our show era, but it was early on and it was an
attempt to end all discrimination against
appearance. And this was for people who would go into a job
interview with spikes in their face and face tats.
Adam Curry: Hidden Camera, hidden camera stuff
John C. Dvorak: ear get gauged ears and they had a big hole in
their head. I mean, the whole they were horrible looking
people and so they were going for the anti discrimination laws
and nobody was buying it because employers weren't going to hire
these people especially if they were front facing now there was
going to be an account or a person or and I go into a donut
shop and I see some guy with gauged ears and bone in his nose
Adam Curry: does it make you not want the donut does not make you
want to don't want the donut,
John C. Dvorak: I will not buy the donut.
Adam Curry: You're incredibly bigoted Mr. Dvorak, you won't
buy the donut because someone's got a blown out ear lobe,
John C. Dvorak: like guys creeping me out. I'm not buying
the donut. So. So they backed off on this, this idea, because
they went too far right away. And I believe that this natural
hair thing is an increment. And they're going to start to move
forward again, with it in mind that long term, you have to hire
somebody who's got, you know, holes in their ears and, and
bones in their nose. And we're already like maybe some of the
one guy in Oakland's got a couple of horns that he had
implanted into his brain into his skull. I've seen this guy,
and he's and he's painted his face red. So it looks like the
devil, you have to hire him. That's what this is about.
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, of course, if he's talented, you
got to hire him. I mean, if it's a front, I can see the issue if
it's a customer facing job, but I guess they're going after
exactly that, huh?
John C. Dvorak: That's what they're going for. Yeah, you
can, it's just gonna take okay, but
Adam Curry: can I just say it's not the same as your hair comes
out of your head as it comes out of your head. The horns don't
naturally come out of the head. So that's it's not exactly a
natural.
John C. Dvorak: This is what is this is what this is. This is
untoward, I tell you. It this reminds me of its marketing
tricks. I mean, in a lot of marketing strategies that you
start with the hardest thing to do. And that's what they did
when they tried to make it so you can't discriminate against
people because of their appearance, right? And so that
failed. Because if that went through, then what's the point
of doing anything else who cares is all done. But that wasn't
going to happen? Because it just doesn't make any sense. And so
now they're backing off and they're going to increment
things and see how far they get. And so they
Adam Curry: who was they?
John C. Dvorak: They it's vague, man. It's
Adam Curry: the vase. Okay, it's the days. It's the politically
correct elites,
John C. Dvorak: the elites, but it's a certain group of them. I
don't know what their point is. But let's go back to Miss USA.
And here we have. We have a natural hair winter that this
woman from North Carolina who just goes on every chance she
gets, she says she's a lawyer, or a law firm, she said was one
of her quotes. Okay. Now I looked at the women as they came
out and pick my 123456 or seven of the ones I thought they were
the prettiest, and they all got into the top 15 Except for
Alaska who may have been she's kind of he has exaggerated
features. I may have been. She's more moist looks like she looked
like an exaggerated Elizabeth Berkley. If anybody remembers
that actress and Miss Kentucky who should have been called up
and she was dumped, and then when they brought the top 15 out
I thought the best one should have been the winner or the best
one was the Blondie from Florida who I thought was very pretty.
But she got kicked at the end where they had no whites. It was
there was an all black finals. I know when when Latina, made a
big point of it, and then she also lawyer, one Latino, one
woman who was black and Chippewa or something. She's a very
strange looking combination of people, and then Miss Miss North
Carolina, who was a beautiful woman and could have won any
competition. But they were obviously not going to let her
compete with everybody. But because she had a natural hair,
there was two women, two black women that had natural hair. And
this one was the one that was going to be picked. Needless to
say, I felt the thing was semi rigged. But gee,
Adam Curry: imagine that.
John C. Dvorak: So we had the one Mexican and the two blacks
at the end, as the three finalists, they had five
finalists in the eliminated. They eliminated two of them. I
don't know why they do it this way. But they did.
Adam Curry: Procedure, parliamentary inquiry procedure
question. Was this the year where they had no bathing suits?
John C. Dvorak: No, they had made these this Miss USA not
Miss America? Oh, I'm sorry.
Adam Curry: Okay. My mistake. All right, good. Well, let's,
John C. Dvorak: let's do some commentary on the who had the
best figure. Oh, yeah, miss, I thought Miss Florida handled
herself the best in the bathing suit to Miss Ohio guardian, who
for a while, and it was 15. And she looked like Savannah
Guthrie. And, and then in one view, she looked a little like
Mickey,
Adam Curry: I should remind I should remind everybody that we
do this from a television production standpoint, and not a
old douchebag white guy who's sitting in his crock standpoint.
Yeah, we do it
John C. Dvorak: from a very objective perspective.
Adam Curry: And particularly because it's political.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that's the thing that this was the worst
case scenario, because in this case they've been over the years
we've noticed they've been slipping in more and more and
more political questions, hoping that people spew some sort of
left wing message. That's my belief. And this year was all I
have all five questions are there short, I cut them way
down. So you only have to quit. You don't have to intro and miss
the you Arkansas. Come on. Hello, the I killed all that.
And we have the five questions and answers that you got. So
these are short. And then I have the Miss North Carolina's answer
to the last question where they ask the same exact question this
pretty this, by the way, amuse me to no end. So they got to got
the question at the end with the three girls. And they're going
to ask the same question. So they put a headphones on them.
And as soon as they said, they're going to do that. I
said, Holy crap. How are they going to do this with Miss North
Carolina
Adam Curry: with her natural hair?
John C. Dvorak: Her hair, it was theirs. You couldn't I don't
know if you'd be about a foot between their headphone, and her
head. Because that is a hair.
Adam Curry: So it was basically a racist thing for them to even
suggest.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I think there wasn't in fact, but the
solution was simple. Bring her out first. You never put
Adam Curry: that's the way to go. Perfect. Perfect. Great.
Great, innovative.
John C. Dvorak: Alright, so let's listen to some questions
here. Starting with Miss USA, Arkansas. Okay, at your
Unknown: question is, America is one of the most racially diverse
countries in the world, yet it is also one of the most racially
divided. Why do you think this is?
Well, I think diversity is one of the most unique things about
our country, and it's one of the most special and we should
cultivate that we shouldn't be divided. We shouldn't look at
our fellow contestants our fellow man and say you aren't
like me. So I don't like you. You don't look like me. So I am
racist against you. We should come together and involve
everyone in our lives. I think these 51 contestants that have
stood up here tonight represent our country so well because they
are so diverse. And I think that that is exactly what we need in
our world. We need to celebrate our diversity.
John C. Dvorak: Say racist against you. You don't look like
me so I'm racist against
Adam Curry: I'm gonna Hey, don't be racist on that mountain that
mofo
John C. Dvorak: looked at me so I'm a racist against you. So she
was the one white girl in the fight and she was the question
even though out, she's done, done. She was done. And it was
like that was her and she was going on and on about diversity.
But this was you notice this message was also in the report
about the natural hair, which we played earlier where hair is
diversity according to the girl wearing crazy or of course it
is. Hair is diversity now, okay, well, whatever. So let's go to
Miss USA Nevada's question.
Unknown: So your question is, in October, my friends, Kelsey
Quayle was fatally shot well and instantly driving to work. And
your opinion, what is the largest contributing factor to
the high rate of gun violence in our nation?
Adam Curry: Oh, God, can I can I take this one? Can I can answer
this one.
John C. Dvorak: You won't quite get it right. Because did the
girl pull the switcheroo on?
Adam Curry: Because I'm expecting her to say the problem
is guns, because guns kill people.
Unknown: I think that what contributes to the high rate of
gun violence is the availability to all of the weapons, I think
there has to be another look into the gun reform. And we have
to consider mental health in this situation as well, because
this is not just about guns. This is about what is going on
in the in the minds of these
John C. Dvorak: realized, so she starts off with the right answer
by gun reform even though or the gun gun something that gun
reforms. She Sue. She says mental health for some reason, I
think this applause I went on too late. And it sounded as
though they're applauding her mention of mental health. I
Adam Curry: think they are applauding her in the mental
health case
John C. Dvorak: was you know, she was on one track and she
changed tracks. Well, she's oh my god, this is I'm on the right
track as you so so. So dropping the gun availability issue. She
went on and on about mental health. And I thought that was
hilarious. But
Adam Curry: I also think that's the right answer for this crowd.
That is what the diverse social justice warriors want to hear.
Because you get therefore, the person who uses the gun to kill
people is also a victim, you say? Right, another
Unknown: look into the gun reform. And we have to consider
mental health in this situation as well, because this is not or
maybe
Adam Curry: just someone walked by like Jack Nicholson or
something.
Unknown: Mental health situation, because this is not
just about guns. This is about what is going on in the in the
minds of these of these of these people. Who are using these
weapons against? It's definitely a mental health issue. It's not
just
Adam Curry: at any point. Was there steam coming out of our
ears when she was trying to answer the question was like,
well plumes of smoke.
John C. Dvorak: I wouldn't say dingbat. No,
Adam Curry: that'd be very rude.
John C. Dvorak: It was using gibberish. She was a cute and
she was trying to get the answer out. And she I think she just
was confused.
Adam Curry: Okay. Did anyone have a question about Trump?
Come on.
John C. Dvorak: I don't think there was a direct question
about Trump. Let's go to USA Miss New Mexico. The 2020
Unknown: election is right around the corner. What is one
issue you would like all candidates to address and why?
Well, being from a border state and being born and raised in a
border city, immigration is something that is very important
to me. This is not a black and white issue. And that is why we
need to have discussions and continue to listen to each
other. I think that there's so many people out there wanting
the American dream. And my parents immigrated here from
Monterrey, Mexico. Their representation of their American
dream. Thank you New
Adam Curry: Mexico. Where was this held? This? This event?
John C. Dvorak: I think was in Vegas or Reno.
Unknown: Okay. All right. David Reno.
Adam Curry: Is it safe safe answer Safe, safe, safe?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it was okay. She was pretty and and
then we have not yet there's a guy out to North Carolina here.
You don't want to play the final question. I'm gonna play Miss
USA, North Carolina. And that's This is the winner. And this is
her answer to these these this dumb series of questions which
were asked by, by the losers by the way
Adam Curry: before before we move on now. Do they have judges
in the on the panel? And the judges? Yeah, there are judges
who was the who were the judges?
Unknown: I don't know. So your question is
Adam Curry: the only one that matters is you John, I'm just
asking.
John C. Dvorak: What difference does it make? They're just a
bunch of schlubs and they're given a script. Dara judging
anything.
Unknown: So your question is for the past two years, the hashtag
me too and hashtag time's up, have dominated our national
conversation. However, some believe it has only deepened the
divide between men and women. Have these movements gone too
far?
I don't think these movements have gone too far what me too,
and time's up are about our making sure that we foster safe
and inclusive workplaces in our country. As an attorney. That's
exactly what I want to hear. That's exactly what I want for
this country. I think they're good movements. Thank you North
Carolina.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that that's sad, kind of, but then
maybe it's good for women. When the talent portion of the
competition is your lawyer. That's really what it is. I
mean, it used to be I can twirl a baton. Oh, I can dance. I can
play a piano. I can. I am a ventriloquist. But now you just
show up your lawyer. I think your your you kind of got a
couple steps ahead. Right there.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, she was milking it too. Fantastic. Good
honor. Her law firm she mentioned earlier.
Adam Curry: What kind of law does she practice? And we
learned that
John C. Dvorak: it never we never found out it you I'm sure
our wiki page will determine that. But that answer, you know,
it's just a stent. Yes, good. She's an attorney. She's going
to be quicker on her feet than most of them. And so the last
question comes up, and I didn't record all of them. And it was
not. It was not that interesting. But I did record
the winners North Carolina's answer to the last question,
which everybody got asked, not everybody. But the three
finalists got asked, and this is and that was Oklahoma, New
Mexico and North Carolina and also other states, or states
south. And this is the question, this is her answer. And it was,
you know, May?
Unknown: Here's your question. Millennials are often labeled as
entitled. But they've also been called one of the most socially
conscious generations in decades. What is one word you
would use to describe your generation? And why?
I would say that my generation is innovative. I'm standing here
in Nevada, in the state that has the first majority female
legislature in this entire country. Maya is the first
generation to have that forward looking mindset that has
inclusivity diversity and strength and empowered women.
I'm looking forward to continued progress with my generation.
Thank you, North Carolina.
Adam Curry: That sounds good. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: I can see why she does good except for the
fact that the majority women legislature in Northern Nevada
is not millennials, but okay, she'll take credit for it like
millennials do. I was thinking, take credit for it. And you
know, like you said, I'm the judge here
Adam Curry: last night, I realized that we are now into
our second generation of producers on the show. We're 11
years didn't we just didn't we educate an entire generation?
And now we're taking on their younger, they're younger
siblings, or who else who else is coming now?
John C. Dvorak: Well, we're hoping so that was that
Adam Curry: went away? No. So now is she going to leave her
law practice and go on the tour and speak to children and
particularly young girls around the world? Is that Is that what
she's going to do? Is that
John C. Dvorak: let's see. She's, let's be honest about
she's a beautiful woman with a lot of potential for media.
Adam Curry: She's going to be on TV, she's gonna be on TV so
quick.
John C. Dvorak: Actually, there's a there was at least I
would say at least 10 women throughout the competition that
are just yet anchorwoman written all over me you know, newsreader
maybe just
Adam Curry: news model we attend to call
John C. Dvorak: spokesmodel and so they have so she so let's
let's go over this analysis analyze your question by asking
so you have this woman that set and she's actually more or less
media more movies. That's what it is. She has that look of a
movie actress and she has a choice of going on the road and
and showing you know herself to just various groups and
practicing being in front of large audiences. Or she could
stay at or law firm and drudge away on a day to day basis going
over paperwork and contracts. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I think I'd love to be on CNN all day. Well, maybe
she could replace Joy Reid.
John C. Dvorak: She's she's got she's got bigger things got
bigger things. Gonna be at that level. She's net worth but you
could tell she's. Hey, she could end up by Fox because she's a
lawyer.
Adam Curry: Now then. PBS needs her the news our the Where did
Gwen wood we lost Gwen Eiffel. We need a yes.
John C. Dvorak: replace her with this job. Misha woman has your
house yummy.
Adam Curry: LLC under or Kham Kham has come Conquistador.
John C. Dvorak: And she and I can date have, I don't know how
to deal with her. She's very amateurish, and she should be
out. And this woman doesn't look like a news type. She really
looks like she should be in an act as an actress in the in the
Hollywood period.
Adam Curry: Well, speaking of speaking of natural hair, I
watched the knock down the house documentary on Netflix, which is
an award winning Sundance documentary I might point out,
which features the four social justice Democrats and how they
were picked and how they were trained. And it's their own.
It's the their own footage. And they're very proud of how they
did it. And it's, I recommend everybody watch it. And you and
the see Amy vilella, Cory Bush, Paula Jean swearing in, they
didn't when you can end it also, they've really cut down their
pieces significantly in this documentary, but AOC Wow, it
proves you really can take someone who's standing by in a
bar, and you can put them in the US Congress, and it was well
done. And it was emotional. I always get emotional by
achievement. So I like that. The thing that really struck me
though, is and this comes back to the natural hair, it starts
off and she's in her. I think it's a hotel room. I don't think
it's her apartment, a hotel room and she's doing her makeup in
the morning. She's talking about how it's so easy for men because
it's throw on you know, they just throw on a suit and tie and
they're done with thanks. No, that's not true, but Okay,
that's fair. You believe it. And she's women have to put on their
makeup. So she was completely without makeup. And, John, I
gotta tell you, with a long hair and her Latin features I had I
did a double take. She looked just like Christina's ex
boyfriend one. From Los Angeles. It was uncanny. Completely
different. Just like one I like this one. It was the same line
one is you know, he's like 30 in LA. He's going nowhere. Gloves
wrestling. No wonder Christina dumped him. But he's a great
guy. He's a sweet guy and very talented artists, but does
nothing with it. But anyway, he's just passing. This is one.
John C. Dvorak: She looks like a man. Is that what you're telling
me?
Adam Curry: Yeah, to me. Yeah. Without her makeup is very, very
different. Anyway, now you really understand that when
she's got her notes, and when she's following the program and
her training her script, then she's, it's fine. And the minute
she goes off, she loses the plot. But she's, yeah, you can
see how this works is great. And they had some money. I don't
know who the Justice Democrats. They had money to get this
going. I'm sure they have a lot more. But it's
John C. Dvorak: they have a lot more. Now. They didn't have that
much. Then
Adam Curry: they had a little bit with their headquarters in
Kentucky. But there were 20 people on the payroll getting
stuff done.
John C. Dvorak: And I'm sure a lot of is borderline she very,
Adam Curry: you're very, of course. Very impressive, though.
I was impressed.
John C. Dvorak: It was impressive operation. There's no
doubt about deplorable but depressed but
Unknown: I don't know if it's deplorable. deplorable. And
Adam Curry: let's talk about the purge for a moment. I am very
happy to report that NPR whenever it's about anything
from Silicon Valley, even if it's a political conversation
about who's being D platformed. This week, they love to bring in
their millennials. This one's kind of special though.
Unknown: Paris Martineau covers social media and internet
culture for Wired Magazine and joins us from our studios in New
York. So exactly. Who are we talking about? Who was banned?
Yeah. So on Thursday afternoon, Facebook banned six high profile
extremists and one conspiracy theorists site.
Adam Curry: High profile extremists. This is good. Laura
Loomer is a high profile extremist. Is she apparently I
mean, she's one of the six that got
John C. Dvorak: an extremist in what what realm a high political
realm is it a military realm,
Adam Curry: high profile extremists.
Unknown: Facebook banned six high profile extremists and one
conspiracy theorist site that includes inflammatory
figureheads in the far right like Laura Loomer. Infowars Alex
Jones and Paul Joseph Watson as well as white supremacist Paul
Nehlen and radical Muslim preacher Louis Farrakhan.
So President Trump and other conservatives have accused
various social media companies for censoring right opinions
John C. Dvorak: That woman she's talking too fast.
Adam Curry: Throughout the they're both kind of did. The
one from Wired is almost doing was an ASMR recording extremely
fast. And then the other ones just blast and Pastor
Unknown: Trump and other conservatives have accused
various social media companies for censoring right wing
opinions of Alex Jones Milo Yiannopoulos. Louis Farrakhan.
They've been around for a long time. So why is Facebook doing
this now?
So a Facebook spokesperson told me that the company has always
banned individuals and organizations that promote or
engage in violence and hate regardless of ideology. But the
people and organization ban Thursday were just as extreme
and peddled just as much misinformation and hate a year
ago as they did Thursday.
What's been the fallout from this?
The fallout has largely been the people banned. Protesting
they're banned, there was a bit of a snafu in the fact that
Facebook kind of seated number of media outlets on Thursday
afternoon with this story in advance, then
Adam Curry: I gotta stop this for a second. Here's what's
interesting about this. There was no official press release,
no written word from Facebook about this at all. And it went
around really fast because this so called snafu where they see
did some press, I think Atlantic and a couple others have maybe
Whopper Whopper Whopper WaPo. And, and they and they said,
Well, here's what's going down, here's what's gonna happen, but
they hadn't knocked those people off yet. So they were just
letting everybody know ahead of time that they were going to be
kicked off. And so and that was under embargo, because of
course, you know, the willing media is very willing to sit on
that. I will wait under embargo until you kick them off. Still
reporting
Unknown: exactly the way the ACC, I know, I know.
Adam Curry: Now I live with a communications expert. And she
says this is Bogota. That would be the keeper. This is Bogota
live, they that's no snafu. They're trying to be relevant
because I'm quoting now because all Facebook is now is old
people and nonprofits, which I thought was pretty good
analysis. And they're just trying to show that they are
clean as a whistle for whatever may be lurking behind this. I'm
sure there was not some horrible outrage that ensued over Laura
Loomer, or whatever she might have posted or Allume. All
Joseph Watson
John C. Dvorak: and Paul Joseph Watson day I've heard his
material it strikes I plainer,
Adam Curry: I can't even watch him. It's like, it should be
thrown off because it's not entertaining. How about that?
I'm with you on that Facebook. Let's listen to the rest of
this.
Unknown: And there was a bit of a snafu in the fact that
Facebook kind of seed a number of media outlets, and Thursday
afternoon with the story in advance, then struggled to
actually take down the accounts at the time the story out
drawing these extremist figureheads to publish on their
fan soon to be banned Instagram accounts, follow me on the other
platform. Hmm.
So is this I mean, is this setting a precedent or we're
gonna see Facebook, continue to ban accounts and who makes those
decisions?
Those are all great questions. I think
John C. Dvorak: you want they're not.
Unknown: Facebook is like Facebook, oftentimes going to do
whatever it wants. And we will, it'll be interesting to see how
it continues to apply this going forward, whether it'll stick
with it.
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. Thank you.
John C. Dvorak: Thank you for your time.
Adam Curry: Thank you for your courage. Thank you for your fry.
I have some thoughts about this. You any thoughts about why this
is taking place? Why they why they've done this seemingly for
for no real issue?
John C. Dvorak: Oh, I mean, if I don't have any serious thoughts,
I have some unserious thoughts like maybe this is a prelude for
the 2020 elections. They want to keep anybody who's who might,
you know, interfere with, with the Litany with the West Coast.
liberal bias. Don't need this kind of aggravation. People
questioning authority. I don't know. Well,
Adam Curry: Zuckerberg has been calling for regulation for a
while. I mean, he said now it's time for the government to
regulate the internet. So I'm thinking it is he's setting He's
planting a flag but maybe EO MasterCard has been I think
they're holding a shareholder vote to determine whether
MasterCard should have a program in place that can cut off
payments for far right on the political scale. Facebook is
also trying to do they want to do a currency a crypto currency,
and they're looking I think they were looking to do like a
billion dollar coin offering or Something like that. Yeah, 1
billion. And they've been talking to a lot of banks and
maybe that maybe they're talking to MasterCard. I don't know it.
To me this feels like a corporate move in in regard like
there's something they want to do. They want to make sure they
don't have it's like brand safe to the extreme. Let's put it
that way.
John C. Dvorak: Why don't they do it in general, though? I
mean, there's some very important people on Facebook and
Twitter for that matter who are on the left, I would say, How
does Carl Reiner continue to spew his venom? On Twitter? It
makes no sense to me.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, then the only brand safe
John C. Dvorak: for the left me what you is just to encourage
Democrats to advertise there. I'm not sure what we're gonna
get it. While I
Adam Curry: was talking more about if you're invited.
Everybody wants to be beat all Silicon Valley companies
ultimately have one final goal Apple is getting there. They
want to be your bank. Apple, I think is pretty far along.
Google has their initiatives. Facebook has been looking at
this for a long time they all want to control and whether
they're really your bank, or whether just controlling your
purchase mechanism is taking a piece of the action. Right? But
they they want to be a much, much, much bigger player in
where else are they going to go? They already have your
information. The only thing the only data they don't actually
have 100% access to is the data in your bank account. They want
to control that to that's in there. That is in their DNA.
That's what these companies do. They need to grow.
John C. Dvorak: I Oh get you're not making it, you're not
connecting the dots. Yeah, I'm connecting the dots between make
more sense after I play the next well notice
Adam Curry: that I'm connecting the dots by saying MasterCard,
which is an important player and anyone who's going to do
anything with any type of money, we'll have to deal with
MasterCard online. They're talking about having a committee
that can D platform users from even using their transaction
system. Facebook wants to do transactions, maybe they're
prepping for some kind of big deal. That's what I'm,
John C. Dvorak: I understand that part of your argument. I
just don't understand. Why does it have to be a bunch of right
wingers? Or borderline right wingers are just goofballs, like
Laura Loomer, who Luber rises people and makes fools out of
them and interrupts public meetings to make some you know
valid points I think in many cases I don't get it what why
just them
Adam Curry: well he they also kicked off Farah can so that was
exactly its
John C. Dvorak: choice to assuage the right Oh, we got rid
of Farah can't do who else who else did you get rid of besides
Farah can? Nobody? Oh, we'll see. And when you only compare
it to like Paul like to Watson and Loomer, I would put both
into categories. It's like they're dumb. They're not
promoting hate or weirdness or anything, it seems to me.
Watching just complains, and Loomer just tries to make fools
out of me. That's
Adam Curry: my theory,
John C. Dvorak: I don't even think of Alex Jones is much more
than a really very entertaining guy.
Adam Curry: So what's your theory?
John C. Dvorak: I don't have one. Okay. All right. My
theories are just trying to stop right wing debates, or they're
just trying to prove virtue signaling to the to the
douchebags in Silicon Valley who have for some unknown reason,
over the last 20 or 30 years have gone cover left wing from
left wingers and get it
Adam Curry: that must be very disturbing can live there and
see that happen.
John C. Dvorak: It was extremely disturbing in it, but it's more
of a quizzical thing. It's like, Wait a minute. This happened. I
know some of the reasons for it. I mean, John Doerr is one of the
number one Democrat supporters and a big promoter of this to
the point where he calls people out and he gets into rec, he
Adam Curry: still is he still a big deal in in Silicon Valley.
Even after all these failures, it's the money including my
company.
John C. Dvorak: Well, he's not the big deal he wants was right.
Insofar as V venture capital is concerned, he's not no, they
don't turn to him. But when it comes to politics, which is
where he resides now, I mean, he's the one who brought Al Gore
into the company. He's the one who was promoted on the new
Bano. barndo auto and green, green, green, that's invest in
green, that's where the money is. I mean, it was a huge
Adam Curry: green tech Green Tech.
John C. Dvorak: It goes back to if anybody wants to chide you, I
don't even know if anybody still at Kleiner Perkins knows about
the snowblower fiasco of years early snowblower
Adam Curry: I don't even know the snowblower fiasco
John C. Dvorak: apparently they funded some but they thought was
gonna be the future of something I don't all I remember it's it's
vague now, but it's been vested millions and millions to some
snowblower company that somehow attached a snow blower to a
bicycle And the sidewalks are some I don't remember.
Adam Curry: I mean, I know that they, I think they were in the
first at the Segway. I remember that. Oh, the Segway they were
all they were all over on the
John C. Dvorak: bus. While everybody in the offices I was
riding them around way. I never saw anybody driving around but
they all had a Segway and they all have these big glassed in
offices. And each one have it had a Segway plug plugged into
the wall as if they were going to use it.
Adam Curry: If so, right. And then when they, when they got
the 500 million that was Ray lane, he got the $500 million
from the government to support Fisker which went up a little
smoke. They everybody was driving Fiskars and plugging him
in named me. I got a plug in my $300,000 car.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Had
Adam Curry: you been? I guess the moral of the story is, you
would be surprised how the people who fund a lot of
companies and men really run what goes where? How inadequate,
and stupid they are.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, they made the money is made on the
leverage with a very few companies that just skyrocket in
value. And it makes everybody filthy rich isn't like the shake
of the dice. It's just,
Adam Curry: they didn't even get it on Google. They had to buy in
because they missed the boat. And they missed the swing to
take credit
John C. Dvorak: for it. Yeah, everybody. I noticed this too.
It's like I know when Google started. And then all of a
sudden they start to go public. All these guys buy in at the
highest prices, so they could say they were part of the
founding. Crap.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was. I'd heard that whole story from I
think maybe from John Doerr told me where they had to deal with
this some deal was happening and they weren't in on it. And then
they call it was a you got to we got to be in on this deal. And
then they did this at three in the morning. So they still had a
piece of it because it would be too embarrassing. It's
John C. Dvorak: where were you guys when Google happened? Yeah,
kinda.
Adam Curry: Well, with that, John, John Claude, I would like
to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you
the man who put the C in MailChimp John C.
John C. Dvorak: Mr. Adam curry in the morning all ships and sea
boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all
the names and nights out there
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he's done a couple over the weekend for notice. That's more
than a couple that several done several over the course of his
career and nailed it with the bar bunch in the Brady Bunch
montage for episode 1134. That episode was titled opinion
people. And it was just good. I mean, it's a classic. It's we've
had them similar to this before. But you can't go wrong with
bringing in all of the nut jobs in bar and call it the bar
brunch. It was it was fun. Good. And we appreciate it. Woody,
thank you very much. No agenda art generator.com. Which,
thanks, Paul for keeping that thing fresh up and running. As
part of our value for value model. People doing stuff.
You're all producers. And truly a fascinating either we're such
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We've got doctors, we've got a I got a ton of big farm of people
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1135 1135.
John C. Dvorak: Well, considering it's Ain't got a
mile we only got four or four and what am I saying? We got
three one executive producer and two associates. So it's not
gonna be a long segment except for the fact that the these
people are long winded. David Duncan starts us off from Orem,
Utah, 103 and $33.33. And he says heads up by he wants to
sharpen up tolerance. Here's a bevy of threes for you. Thanks
to both for the best podcast in the universe. According to the
Muller report, and many years of sanity you have imparted, I
don't care to ingest much news anymore, but when I do I view it
through the no agenda lens which dramatically reduces the anxiety
would otherwise cause a big shout out to Mike scolara that
sir Mike Snyder, the jig averse to you for repeatedly hitting me
in the mouth many years ago even when I quit listening after
trying a few episodes. A few shows back you mentioned the
Mormon CIA never Trumper a connection as a Utah Mormon who
graduated from BYU I took particular interest in your
Mormon CIA never Trumper deconstruction Mormons have a
strong sense of patriotism and are short on on the vices which
can compromise many agents no drinking no drugs no
extramarital sex. That's interesting. Oh, is the CIA only
refers to one. No drugs leads correct. It's true. Which leads
to heavy recruiting at BYU by the FBI, the CIA and the NSA. As
a bonafide as bonafide prudes. It's easy for Mormons to dislike
Trump. I thought it was a never Trumper for a while I got
better. While I still dislike Trump personally, not to mention
his past womanizing, I take him over fellow Mormons
backstabbing, flip flopping flip flopping hypocrite Mitt Romney,
or spy hillary supporter, Evan McMullen any day. Mike Lee,
however, seems to be gaining some respect for Trump. Note the
first few seconds of Mike Lee's CPAC speech last year, quote, I
say bring it on. Let's roll. Let's keep making America great
again. That's quite the endorsement. It was well I you
know, I have somebody else wrote me another I had a couple of
Mormons write me and, and time one of them was very concerned
because he was convinced that Mike Lee was a huge Trump
supporter and I had to brief them on Mike Lee's anti Trump
nature and then he's and then he cited his Twitter feed. And I
said if you read his Twitter feed, which I did, a it's really
just very he's very pro Republican. And so at some
point, he has to support the president and that's been as far
as it goes. Anyway, I note the last week he goes on anyway,
thanks for the sanity I'd love and Al Sharpton montage of some
Kermit Dave Duncan Orem Utah. Oh 73 is k f seven UWL. Yes. Or as
he puts a kilo Foxtrot seven uniform whiskey Lima then and in
the morning
Unknown: to you. 70 threes kilo five alpha, Charlie, Charlie,
thank you very much for your support. During lunch at
Chipotle, the tortoise in the race, Kim Kardashian Weaver wash
our ESP IICT.
They are all Jide ESP 30 There's no real conference. This we must
resist.
We must. We must. And we will much about that. Be committed.
You've got karma.
Adam Curry: figured it was time to play the long version of
that.
John C. Dvorak: And talking about long versions is a note
that's oversized
Adam Curry: I think you can skip through some parts of this.
John C. Dvorak: Maybe yes, I was gonna miss tuna. $33.69 ITM John
Adam in the squeaky chair. What's that chair?
Adam Curry: It's not oh, what's it oh,
John C. Dvorak: he says hi back to share says hi
Adam Curry: God. Now you'd like Pee Wee. Herman. Wait, wait.
John C. Dvorak: Okay, I'm not gonna repeat that's not worth
repeating. Sir. I'm a listener since about Oh, sure. I'm a
listener since about 950 is my first donate. So I need a D
douching. Okay.
Unknown: You've been D deuced.
John C. Dvorak: Now, he goes on about how the black boxes work
in cars. And he apparently is an expert in black box technology
and well known. That's when their reasoning was to be
anonymous. He says what we're referring to as a black box is
an airbag computer which also acts as an event data recorder.
As it works today that upon deployment of the airbag, the
send key algorithm that typically allows us computer
taking software updates being erased and overwritten to and
participating in the CAN bus controllers get central
Controller Area Network. This is a reason that if your airbag
goes off, you're told you also need to replace the airbag
computer. Anyway. Cut to the chase. He says this is all about
the change in the 2020 2021 smog machines though, the new smog
machines requires that all auto computers remain untouched.
Unlike today, where aftermarket products existed tune enhanced
the operation of a vehicle for timing and fuel delivery and
other exposed and defined parameters. Soon you will not be
able to pass aftermarket products that you're not be able
to pass smog if any of these computers have been modified in
any way. And they and the send key index
Adam Curry: seed key to cc xes
John C. Dvorak: seed key index algorithm protecting them today
are being switched to rolling rainbow encryption is like
Adam Curry: Oh, I gotta write that down. Rolling rainbow
John C. Dvorak: hellos that is we'll find out is likely soon
you will be issued a ticket based on your decision to speed
four months ago on a Sunday morning. However, that does not
exist today with today's vehicles. Well, you will that's
what the point is, which we've been predicting. It's obvious
that's what you want to do, of course, but I do it's not
answered in this note. Is the question of so I have a 25 year
old Lexus. And is it if I swap out the computer which would
give I can get lots of horsepower out of this car. And
does it apply to old computers that have been switched out or
just a new ones after the 2020 model? is no joke it's not a
kind of good note from an app perspective.
Adam Curry: When you when you drive in that in that Lexus all
people do is look and salute you. They don't care. They're
like look at that old guy. Remember when you grow up you
say oh look at that guy in a model for the Model T ER model
A. Wow, that's so cool. That's who you are now. Yeah, it's just
doesn't look the car just looks different. Yeah, it looks kind
of groggy but
John C. Dvorak: the car is still collectible by the community at
large. People still offer to buy it constantly. Shout out to my
smokin hot wife big see as we celebrate 11 years on Friday May
3 Oh nice pleased some house buying karma best of you all.
Loomis
Adam Curry: Yes. And thank you very much for your support of
the program and keep us informed as that what we own is no longer
really ours.
Unknown: You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak: Jim Watson Whistler. Wow Whistler BC One of
the most picturesque places in the world $233.33 resource.
Sorry,
Adam Curry: I've been I've been to Whistler. Very pretty. I
skied it. I skied with ski Whistler, man
John C. Dvorak: he's our associate second Associate
Executive Producer and last one on the list. Happy birthday to
me donation rather than grouse about my birthday being hijacked
by the Mexican liquor cartel as I have in the past, I will
change my title from Sir James of the mountains to Dude, I
don't know if he's if this if you serious about this. Just sir
Sanko de mio having passed Baronet level some time ago.
Hmm,
Adam Curry: well, I think I think it's on the official list.
I see we had a title change.
John C. Dvorak: We can do that. No, no, no,
Adam Curry: I guess he's just throwing it in for fun. It's
John C. Dvorak: okay, if you give us a confirmation on this
change, then we'll do that. Yes, we'll do it later. We're not
going to do it. Just when it sounds like a joke. Alright.
Jingles Sir Chris has to channel lose goat karma please.
Adam Curry: So Geez lose
two channel I don't know what that means. But we'll give it a
shot.
Unknown: You've got
Adam Curry: all right, thank you very much. That's great.
forgotten that want to forget forget what people make somebody
good jingles? Good stuff. That was it though.
John C. Dvorak: Sadly. Yeah, that was it for a show. 1135
want to thank these folks for producing the show and we'll
have more producers in general listed later. Yeah, we
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Unknown: is this. We go out yet people in the mouth shut us
Adam Curry: different font different farmer news.
Very interesting case that is taking place in particular
because it is a criminal case against a CEO and an entire
pharmaceutical corporation. A couple of clips I'd like to
share this is the background of it. It's on NPR.
Unknown: Prosecutors laid out what they say was a nationwide
scheme to
Adam Curry: are they hiring people on voice anymore on NPR
they just hiring anybody? I don't
Unknown: know. The prosecutors laid out what they say was a
nationwide scheme to boost sales of this opioid painkiller. And
you can think about it in three different steps. The first thing
they did was they targeted doctors who are known to over
prescribe opioids, the head of sale somebody who presided
Adam Curry: over what over prescribe opioids does she say
the word prescriber.
Let's listen again,
Unknown: the first thing they did was they targeted doctors
who are known to over prescribe opioids
Adam Curry: over prescribe.
John C. Dvorak: I just look over beside. Okay,
Adam Curry: well, it's overprescribe how to
Unknown: sail somebody who pleaded guilty and testified for
the prosecution said that the company ran toward pill mills
not away from them to Insys Therapeutics. He said, pill
mills meant dollar signs. The next thing they did was as you
said they bribed doctors to write prescriptions. That often
meant that people were being prescribed really high opioids.
And these people these patients didn't necessarily need it. They
set up a sham speakers program where doctors are paid not to
give lectures but to write prescriptions. And then the last
thing they did was they set up a whole call center where insist
employees deceived insurance companies saying whatever was
necessary to get their expensive medication covered. That
includes fabricating cancer diagnoses.
Adam Curry: So this is a spray the spray fentanyl? Yeah, and,
and this this to the no no agenda producers who have been
around like, Okay, we know exactly how this works. They
they bribe the doctor to get him speaking fees for things they
don't have to speak at. They give him hookers, they've taken
it to a whole new level. In this case.
Unknown: Throughout the trial, the prosecutors basically
depicted a company that was corrupt through and through, for
example, insists sales reps received higher bonuses when
they convinced doctors to write prescriptions in higher doses.
The idea was get patients hooked and kind of keep them coming
back for more. They even made a music video that was shown
during the trial about this. Here's
a clip. We can come into your office we can go and bring some
lunch and while your stuff is good and fair, we can start
discussing SubSys Yes.
Adam Curry: I've watched the whole video I put a link in the
show notes. Once your white guy douchebags during the hip hop
video about drugging up people's dynamite
Unknown: That is That is incredible. Clearly the lengths
that they were willing to go to to do this.
Yeah, and things got even crazier. They they hired a
former exotic dancer to be part of their sales team. She was
actually one of the defendants who was found guilty yesterday
in the trial. And she
Adam Curry: what there's there's sex used in sales
Unknown: attendants who was found guilty yesterday in the
trial. And she she gave a lap dance to a doctor to try and
convince him to prescribe their opioid medication.
Adam Curry: You gotta hear so she firstly does that whole Wow
thing and then was it in that work that the very end she does
another one.
Unknown: She was actually one of the defendants who was found
guilty yesterday in the trial. She she gave a lap dance to a
doctor to try and convince him to prescribe their opioid
medication.
Oh my, oh, my.
Adam Curry: They're so shocked about this. This has been going
on for a long time. And interestingly, well, I'll get to
that in a second. Here's the last the last clip because this
is a criminal trial. That's what's great and new about this
Unknown: is a criminal case, not a civil case often. You see
pharmaceutical companies getting in trouble in civil cases that
means big fines. But this criminal case means possible
prison time these executives are facing up to two decades behind
bars. The other thing to note here is that they were charged
with racketeering conspiracy. That means this crime these
crimes were systemic, they were conspiring. This was not just a
few bad actors. racketeering was originally designed to go after
organized crime. The prosecutors are essentially saying this,
these pharmaceutical executives were like drug lords. This kind
of represents an aggressive strategy by the federal
government to go after pharmaceutical companies for
their role in fueling the opioid epidemic. And experts say that
this is likely the beginning of a trend and that this case could
be a blueprint for future prosecutions.
Yeah, baby.
John C. Dvorak: I had a clip I had this clip from me I have to
do a search that they just got overlooked, but it was done on I
had Amy's version of this when it first started off. Because I
think if you do this search drug drug lords Democracy Now Deanne
at the end, might find I just can't find it my old lists.
Adam Curry: Yes, white collar drug lord, does that sound about
right?
John C. Dvorak: That's the same story. This is this is when it
first began. And it might be worth playing as as a adjunct to
what you just played in New
Unknown: York City. Federal prosecutors announced criminal
charges the
Adam Curry: girl who we just heard is going to grow up to be
Amy, you hear how that voice went?
John C. Dvorak: From possibility. I wonder what you
asked about do they check on? I think that they probably got her
she's professional voice person, you know, sex chat line,
probably.
Unknown: Well, let's just listen a little bit to her laughter
pharmaceutical companies
in New York City, federal prosecutors announced criminal
charges Tuesday against the Rochester drug cooperative, a
major producer of opioids, charging them with a conspiracy
to profit by illegally distributing controlled
substances. This is Jeffrey Berman, US Attorney for the
Southern District of New York artists. These
former CEO Lauren style is in custody and will be presented to
a judge in the Southern District of New York this afternoon. Dowd
is charged with conspiring to distribute oxycodone and phenol
Adam Curry: that this isn't this. This is a different guy.
They're not talking about this case, are they?
John C. Dvorak: I don't know. I mean, I'm wondering it's not
because this sounds different. This is not the CEO, the CEO of
NAFTA a different good different group of people than me, but
this is the same thing criminal fentanyl,
Unknown: conspiring to defraud the DEA dialed lead or DC during
the entire period of the charge conspiracy, and as alleged,
personally directed and profited from much of its criminal
activity.
That company's chief compliance officer also faces criminal
charges. Both executives face possible life in prison.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's about time we throw some people in
jail, but it's it's kind of baffling to me because you've
got these stories like oh my God, what's going on? Look at
the corruption just to give them more medication that they didn't
need. But meanwhile, no one seems to connect the dots to oh,
I don't know the MMR vaccination. If you
Unknown: dodge the needle for measles. That's illegal. For if
you catch the measles, you will die, die. Everyone, all
Adam Curry: of our producers chipped in. Got some good stuff
to work with. Let's get an update on the measles outbreak
from Fox and Friends.
Unknown: Health Alert for you now hundreds of passengers
quarantined on a cruise ship due to a measles outbreak. Health
officials docking the ship believed to be used by the
Church of Scientology in St. Lucia. The infected crew member
is in isolation we're told the ship is set to depart today,
back on lands in the meantime, a woman with measles attended a
packed California movie theater to see Avengers endgame.
Officials now warning other movie goers may have been
exposed. There are now 700 reported cases nationwide Merkin
company says that they have increased production of the
vaccine. They are the only supplier of the measles vaccine
in the US.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah.
This is so good. So they have a number of quick little ditties.
Here. We're going back to NPR to understand about the MMR. Again.
We just went through this and we have trials going on criminal
trials of pharmaceutical companies and executives pushing
shit on people that they didn't need. It was too much of it over
prescribing yet complete silence on this and I actually have some
stats here because we got a lot of a lot of people in the in the
healthcare industry telling us what's going on. You know the
just To give you an idea of the measles outbreak, which,
interestingly, in 2014 ophthalmologists in California,
were able to become licensed to hand out to vaccinate people. So
you can go to your local ophthalmologist and so the
ophthalmologist published a couple things in conjunction
with the CDC. And right now we have the 704 cases, we're
tripping out. But in 2014, it was 667. It's not like, you
know, wow, what happened? How did that happen in these in, in
five short years, you know, and GE, it's all the way up to 700.
It's, it's not even, not even 100 more than what it was, but
okay, we're all supposed to be afraid, and NPR is participating
beautifully. And I have
Unknown: to say every time I hear another story about another
piece of this measles outbreak, I wonder about all of the people
in this country who may have been vaccinated so long ago that
they don't even know what the status of their own vaccination
is, I have to say, I texted my mom and said, By the way, we
were vaccinated for Measles, weren't we? And she said, Yes,
yes, you were. But at what point? Do kids get vaccinated
for this? And how long does the vaccination last?
Well, children start to be vaccinated either at 12 or 15
months of age, and then they get a second dose, usually, at age
four, or five or six, somewhere in there. Fortunately, the
protection from the vaccine is life long for 97% of us. So
that's really an excellent vaccine.
So there's no booster shot needed as an adult.
There's no booster shot needed for an adult. Now, that said, if
you're an adult who was vaccinated before 1989, and
you're going to an area of the world where there's ongoing
measles transmission, you might want to review your status to
make sure you got vaccinated and if there's any insecurity, just
get another dose of MMR
Adam Curry: to be sure. This is my favorite. That's my favorite
thing. Just getting take two kids three shots, it's not gonna
kill you. What can we do to worry about if
Unknown: you have come in contact with someone who has
measles but you yourself are vaccinated? Can you pass measles
on to a third person?
No, you will not because your protection will prevent that
from happening. So you're not only protecting yourself, you're
protecting people around you because you will not be a
transmitter.
What do you think needs to happen right now, Dr. Schaffner
to get this measles outbreak under control and make sure that
next week and the week after that, and the week after that,
we're not hearing story after story about a new outbreak
somewhere else in the world.
You've just heard me sigh because every child that is
unvaccinated, if they were vaccinated today, this problem
would end completely in two weeks. The issue really is
unvaccinated children. We need to extend the protection of the
vaccine to all of those children. And we can once again
eliminate measles from the United States. Government
children.
Adam Curry: That's right. They're coming for your kids.
This is what they want. Let
John C. Dvorak: me let me read a note from one of our producers
Mike. longtime listener wanted to say thanks for having a
positive effect on my family regarding vaccines. And for
Brian, you backup for the importance of your reporting.
We're not anti vaxxers But have learned to question thanks. Our
state Virginia required papers, quote unquote, showing double
vaccination for MMR before admittance to school. Our kids
were vaccinated once we asked for a lab test instead of double
vaccination and were threatened with the $300 fee for each
child. But, but insisted anyway, kids were shown to be fully
immune by the lab tests and issued the proper quote unquote
papers and the insurance paid for the tests. Thank you for
your courage, Mike.
Adam Curry: It's interesting. I got one from Jim and I recently
took a job that requires me to have a series of vaccines or
prove that I had these vaccines it is in the healthcare
industry, but in my position I would likely never face a
customer. Still I must have MMR detach a T DHAP, Tdap and
varicella. Any records of my vaccines as a child are long
gone I either had to take the vaccines or prove my immunity
which is called a titer test is that ti t er titter tighter,
tighter. This test can prove immune Do you or may show that
you do not have immunity? Then you had to take the vaccines. My
insurance did not pay for the test but it did pay for the
vaccines. I elected to get the vaccines.
Nice knowing your gym
John C. Dvorak: and just distilled water.
Adam Curry: When rev Morgan when Obamacare first came through a
real time of health care upheaval, the local hospital was
insisting pastors get flu shots. And some of the in some type of
physical to visit the hospital, they did a blood test and looked
at my antibodies. They insisted I get a new MMR since mine was
from 1973 years later, I'm upset about taking it. I'm not an anti
Vaxxer. But now I think some of this is overboard and a money
grab you think they do already want the requirement you
predicted on the last show. The vaccine requirement has kind of
fallen away though. Well, let's listen to the propaganda of
this. And again, it's you know, it's it's the measles. This
keeps it within perspective, people. But how about Stephen
Colbert? He's got a whole new take on this. But let's
Unknown: get away for a moment from our political crisis to
focus instead on the cheery news of our public health crisis is
the CDC reports that more than 700 people have been infected by
measles this year, marking a 25 year high for the infectious
disease.
Adam Curry: Ignoring the 2014 Almost 700 but okay,
Unknown: because people aren't vaccinating against it. What is
wrong with you? As the son of an immunologist? This might be the
scariest news I have ever heard.
Adam Curry: Really, man, the scariest I mean, scarier than
Trump.
Unknown: Just this might be news I have ever heard. I people have
decided they're not sure if they want to be immune from disease.
Your ancestors are saying I would trade places with you, but
I died of measles. The roots of the anti Vax nonsense might be a
little more complex and nefarious than you'd think.
Because
Adam Curry: no Where do you think he's going with this? If
you haven't, if you've seen it, don't don't but if you if you
didn't see it, where do you think he's going?
John C. Dvorak: Well, you do the RE intro give me the intro again
to the give me the premise again, and then I'll just make a
guess. Or
Unknown: trade places with you, but I died of measles. Now, the
roots of the anti Vax nonsense might be a little more complex
and nefarious than you'd think. Because it turns out
Adam Curry: okay. As what as it turns out what
John C. Dvorak: oh, the roots Well, it has to be maybe there's
some jab or needling Jenny McCarthy are better than that.
Better than now. Yeah, it's a go to it's a classic got to be a
Trump thing, then close. Yeah, in a way
Unknown: Here we go are complex and nefarious than you'd think
because it turns out Russian trolls promoted anti vaccination
propaganda that may have paused measles outbreak, are you
telling me that Russian trolls helped promote a devastating
disease that could weaken our nation, and now measles? Even
worse, gotta make the long war. Even more alarming, these trolls
were tweeting about both sides of the vaccine debate and
getting into an argument with themselves. Because Russia
doesn't care if we're vaccinated or not. According to this
report, it is after a far bigger prize the exacerbation of
America's distrust of one another and in turn the erosion
of their confidence in society. Russia, you don't have to erode
our confidence in society. Twitter does that all on its
own? Just let it ride. We came up with the tide pod challenge
all by ourselves.
Adam Curry: But he's serious about that about this Russian
this Russian is a real story. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: here the Russians have managed to so 700
people got wouldn't have what was really the Russians involved
in 2014 to win there were 700 There must
Adam Curry: have been them. They must have been involved with
damn Russia stem Russians, man. They've been in it for five
years. How is the general public right now?
Unknown: cases have been surging in the lab is a 25
year high.
Adam Curry: Are you sure it's the measles.
Can't do any kind of vaccination story without the latest update
on the Democratic Republic of Congo. We've upped the ante now
on the Ebola outbreak, am just waiting for us to send some
troops. Ebola always brings the military
Unknown: more than 1500 people in the Democratic Republic of
Congo have contracted Ebola since the outbreak was declared
nine months ago. And the rate of infection is accelerate. meeting
Dr. Ted Ross and Dr. miletti, our regional director have
recently returned from from the Democratic Republic of Congo,
where they found the situation on the ground to be worse than
it has been previously.
It's not just a virus that healthcare workers are battling.
Efforts to control Ebola are hampered by violent attacks.
Insecurity has become a major impediment to ensuring that we
can access engage with and serve the communities we wish to
serve, and Ebola control. Since January we've experienced 119
separate attacks 42, which directly on health facilities,
with 85 health personnel either injured or killed in those
settings. So we are dealing with a difficult and volatile
situation a funeral
was held on Thursday for epidemiologist Richard mizuko,
who was shot dead by militia who reportedly shouted Ebola doesn't
exist.
Adam Curry: That's why they keep setting the treatment centers on
fire. They think that all they're doing is injecting the
population with shit that is just going to do something bad
to them. They they're not buying it. They don't buy it.
John C. Dvorak: I noticed and they're dying
Adam Curry: of Ebola.
John C. Dvorak: Well, there's an also a good connection between
both Ebola and measles with the thing that nobody's reporting on
to any extreme which they should be, which is African swine
fever, yeah.
Adam Curry: Pig, pig, Ebola, pig Ebola,
John C. Dvorak: but, man, this is yeah, go ahead. This. This is
wiping out. Pigs everywhere. Now that it got I have a clip. This
is a lecture from Christopher aura in 2015. This is not a new
disease. By the way, if anybody thinks it might be made it for
Diedrich or anything.
Adam Curry: Is this the same thing as swine flu? Or is this
different?
John C. Dvorak: No compared there's not swine flu. It's not
swine fever. It's African swine fever is a very specific
disease. And it is 100% fatal. It spreads like wildfire. It
will spread from a ham sandwich.
Adam Curry: way away from a ham sandwich. A dead sliced up pig
cooked
John C. Dvorak: and salted. No. Yes. Wow. And what happens is
that it doesn't affect humans and people my wife is all bent
out of shape about this Oh, was a duck gets into China and ducks
gonna sneeze and they get no, we're gonna we're just gonna
know this has been around. This has been a serious problem in
parts of the world since the 1900s. But it's never gotten.
It's never gotten into Europe, which it now has, has never
gotten into Russia, which now has, and it never got into
China, which is it's spread throughout China almost
instantly. Well,
Adam Curry: hello, the Chinese are all over Africa there, bring
it back. That's the problem.
John C. Dvorak: When the problem is, is that this didn't take
it's not here yet. But I bet you it'll get here. Even though
apparently our people are doing a very good job of keeping
contaminated ham sandwiches out of the country. Now, we'll get
going learn a lot and catch up with this before it hits the
real news cycle by listening to this night 2015 lecture, which
really explains a lot about this horrible disease. And I have
some thoughts on why it went. Got to join in when passed
around so quickly. But let's listen to this.
Unknown: I wanted to emphasize why we do need to worry about
African swine fever virus in the Caribbean region. It is
spreading around the world as we speak at the moment in new
areas. It's already wreaked havoc in the Caribbean regions,
and our colleagues from certain Caribbean countries in the North
may remember this virus or when it decimated their pig
industries in the Caribbean. It's a really tough and
resistant virus. So when you get it, it's extremely difficult to
get rid of. And in the Caribbean, we have many people
coming from Africa over to the Caribbean, and we've seen the
virus being transported in pig products. In Dare I say
sandwiches in pork it sticks around and survives for very,
very long periods of times even in processed or salted or cured
meats. So it's a real risk to us. African swine fever virus is
very similar in a lot of ways to classical swine fever virus. And
you can't tell the difference, but there are there are subtle
differences. As with a classical swine fever virus, it's a
hemorrhagic fever. However, most of African swine fever viruses
out there cause a 100% mortality. We call it the Ebola
virus of pigs, because it disintegrates the inside of pigs
like Ebola does to the people that get it and they bleed out.
Isn't that has natural reservoir hosts? Especially in Africa,
what togs Bush pigs are the natural reservoirs hosts. And
here you can see a warthog here in Africa. But there's also soft
ticks or near the door as ticks. And we do have species of soft
ticks that are capable of transmitting African swine fever
virus in the Caribbean region. Where is it at the moment, I'll
have another quick slide on this. But it's endemic in many
African countries. It's been endemic in Sardinia, a little
island in Europe for 35 years. The European Union has thrown
everything at it, and it can't get rid of it and Sardinia. But
really this is the this is the thing at the moment is it's now
in a large area, and I'll explain to you in Russia, and
it's in the European Union, and it's spreading. As I said, it's
invaded the Caribbean, our colleagues in Cuba, Haiti and
Dominican Republic will know about it. And critically, there
is no vaccine. So there is nothing you can do about it as
regards vaccination. That's what makes it so dangerous. Such a
nasty disease, potentially threatening the pig industries
around the world. I think it's the biggest veterinary threat.
At the moment. I would say that, that I think it's the biggest
veterinary threat to livestock industries around the world. You
don't know how many pigs there are in China. But if it goes to
China is going to be a dis global disaster.
Adam Curry: All right, I have a couple of questions before we
get your thoughts one. So this cannot, this does nothing to
humans. Yeah, it's only for pigs. It cannot morphs. There's
no example of that. It's just just kills pigs.
John C. Dvorak: Well, it's been around since the 1700s, when it
was first trek traced, and it has yet to go to humans. And it
seems unlikely that it will know but it will know the Chinese
practices you never know.
Adam Curry: Well, and so the next question is, you said it
can even be transmitted through a ham sandwich, which he just
said to Yeah. Do pigs eat ham sandwiches? Do they eat
themselves? Do they eat ham? Yeah. Okay. And can you get it
as a ham radio operator? That was the most important question.
Took a while to get all right. Well, this could also be
economic. I mean, what if this could be warfare, and pigs are
important, but
John C. Dvorak: I was thinking about this because there was
when I started researching this, for example, the whole pig
phenomenon eating pigs, at least in the West, not so much in
China stems from a another disease, which is called this is
kind of interesting, which was a horse which was a cattle disease
called the render pest. And render PES wiped out a lot of
the livestock. Beef it like it would just feed, sell it here.
Render pets, right wiped out a lot of the livestock a round,
like the years 1000 1200 And like that. And the kicker here
is the measles virus emerged from render passed as a zone as
a disease between 1011 100 ad, a period that may have been
preceded by limited outbreaks involving a virus not let, yet
fully acclimatized to humans. So this render pass like wiped out
the herds of cattle. And so they started using pigs and he
brought pigs and another years cows dead render pests in South
Africa in the late 1800s, that cows are getting wiped out by
this and it finally got a vaccination for it. It got
eradicated around 2021 or something, it's fairly recent.
And then the pig thing started showing up. And so even this
deadly render pass when it morphed to a human ailment it
was measles, it wasn't like something killing people. And I
thought that was a weird connection because now African
swine fever is in fact that reading this, if you read the
China calls, you hear China call, here's I got one article
China calls 200,000 pigs, and then you read on another group
200 They have called millions of pigs, and they do it by burning
him alive and it's just a horrible situation. And so I was
thinking this is a it turns out that render pass was, was
actually run as a chemical, biological warfare idea in World
War One and World War Two. And so it's going to be it could
have been used as an agent, but they tend not to use these types
of things as a mechanism of war because it backfires and kills
all your things do.
Adam Curry: I haven't had last paragraph from an article from
Bloomberg about this, the epidemic could have political
repercussions as well. Zhi Jing ping may want to finalize trade
negotiations with the United States president to both ease
the importation of much needed pork, poultry and beef supplies,
and to enable Chinese lawmakers to focus solely on quelling
outbreaks. This is this, this is a big deal. And
John C. Dvorak: it's good cause a revolution in China, Chinese
cuisine is 50% dependent on pork, they make it one stat I
saw was that if every pork producer in the world sent all
their pork to China, it wouldn't feel the need to Chinese grow
that many pigs Wow. And so it's just a spit in the bucket to
send them pork and there is a as a tariff on and that they have
to reduce the tariff to get the pork and it could cause civil
unrest. And so the first thing you think of, well, maybe this
is like some sort of a scheme that, you know, a form of
warfare, which is not, I don't believe would be done because if
it was ever if it ever got out of danger, this stunt
Adam Curry: because what what, what would we do without bacon
America would freak out?
John C. Dvorak: Well, there's that distance that this disease
is gonna get here. And it is going to affect bacon. And so
but I'm thinking who would be who would benefit the most from
killing off all their having all the pigs die and, and ending the
whole pig business? PETA they don't care about the death of
these pigs. They don't want people eating meat, right? So if
you're floating around, and this stuff is available in a ham
sandwich, yes, you're tourists in China and you saw the pig
farms and you just throw a ham sandwich or you throw something
over the over the fence. Boom, that whole herd is wiped out.
Within Well, that would be rather than four days, by the
way, the pigs die in four days, once they get this disease, this
Adam Curry: stuff's got to morph over to humans, that would be so
cool.
John C. Dvorak: That wouldn't be cool. It would wipe out
everybody. Yeah. But I already would become a measles and it
wouldn't be that big of a deal. It's just not the kind of thing
that morphs over. So it's too been around too long. But it's
now out of control. And it's gonna wipe out we have to
rethink our, our, our pigs, our pigs strategy. Pig stretch is
gonna be different. It's just like, I don't know, it's just as
the end of the pig. And it's the year of the pig who wins.
Adam Curry: In China, it is the the end of
the pig, the end of the end of the pig spit that isn't it's not
bad. I'm bad. Wow, thanks for the illumination on that.
John C. Dvorak: It's gonna become big news. Right now, you
know, then this is I gave the lecture or played the lecture
from 2015 i and it's not this has been stopped bubbling
underneath. There it is. It is real. And the news media is so
preoccupied with really raw bars from Muller. They're not telling
us anything like this. This is a horrible situation. It could
cause civil unrest in in China to an extreme it could cause the
collapse of the Chinese government. It could cause the
stock market to collapse. This has ramifications that are out
of control. And yet reports are sketchy. Mute.
Adam Curry: So we care about don't care about anything else.
Unknown: But Mueller. Yeah, Mueller.
Adam Curry: Oh, I do have interesting news. Do you recall
on the day that the back carbon tax was implemented in Canada,
for our friends, and we're sorry for their challenge the
Canadians that it was sold on the same day as Canada is
warming up twice as fast as the rest of the world.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I don't know how that works. And global
warming should be like, you know, it's not it's not like Ray
beam that's aimed at Canada.
Adam Curry: Well, one of our producers sent me a note and
said, Hey, have you ever done a search on Bing? Have you ever
been twice as fast as the rest of the world and removed Canada
from the results? So remember, the claim was, Canada is warming
up twice as fast as the rest of the world doing this search. And
these are all recent search search results. I shall read to
you some of the results. The Arctic is warming up twice as
fast as the rest of the world. Why Singapore is heating up
twice as fast as the rest of For the rest of the world, China's
heating up twice as fast as the rest of the world. Mountains are
warming twice as fast as the rest of the world. Are you
getting the you're getting it now people are understanding how
it works.
John C. Dvorak: It's unbelievable. Yeah, that's a
good one, by the way, I'll give you I'll give you a 10 on that.
Well, the I do have a that was watching a global warming
lecture. I don't have the guy's name doing it. But he had some
some Jim Hanson, the you know, the guy who's really behind the
whole global warming fear. He Jimmy Hansen. He's got a Jim
Hanson anecdote here.
Adam Curry: Jim Hanson. Not the guy from the Muppets. Jim
Hanson. That's Jim Henson. Oh, okay. Thank you got it.
John C. Dvorak: So let's hear what he has to say.
Unknown: This is Jim Hanson, that Jim Hanson. By the way, if
you go back in 1988, he was asked by a reporter, how do you
see things in 40 years and he says, Well, you see the highway
down here, the Western highway outside of his office, it's not
going to be there anymore. Based on a doubling of co2 from pre
industrial times, well, right now we've gone 25 years into
that 40 years, we've had one inch of sea level rise, there
are 10 feet to go for him to make his prediction. And it's
got to happen within the next 15 years. You take a look at the
assay. This is Jim Hanson slide. Where he decided realizing a sea
level was not rising. He said it's really going to be
exponential. So by the mid century really isn't going to
rise at all, you won't even be alive here. Neither will lie.
And yet, we're gonna get four, four meters of righteousness is
meters, not feet, in the last 20 years of the century. Don't hold
your breath on just one either.
Adam Curry: How's the mud flats?
John C. Dvorak: As my flats, they're intact. There hasn't
been either dive in an inch of sea level rise as far as I can
tell. But yeah, no, it hands so handsome. So they what they do
is they change, you know, instead of having a linear graph
course, and make they put into some sort of geometric thing. So
it's yeah, it's not gonna rise right now. And then all of a
sudden, it's gonna go crazy is the old hockey stick. Right?
Adam Curry: I've been reading the Theodore Kaczynski, he's
anti tech revolution book, which I think was published in I want
to say 2015, I think. And he goes quite quite a bit into the
global warming thing, though. He's not a you know, he says,
Hi, biosphere, sure, warm, cool, etc. He says that this will all
lead to geoengineering. And this is a guy who has been in jail
for what 30 years to this all going to lead to geoengineering,
which in turn, will then cause the heat to be trapped, and all
the oceans will actually evaporate. And, yeah, and that's
not good. And the sick thing of geoengineering is when you
geoengineering you're blocking out sunlight, well, then your
solar panels also start to decrease in efficacy or
effectiveness. So it's not done with the book yet, somewhere in
the book, I expect him to tell me how I stopped this evil tech
revolution. And I can't wait to find out what I have to do and
who I have to recruit for it.
And I'm about to say,
John C. Dvorak: yes. Well, before we do, I do have some
funny stuff. Well, I
Adam Curry: was going to mention something that will take us into
it. Just understanding how we how we operate our business
where we ask you, how much is this show worth to you? Is it
valuable? That's our value for value model is very simple. You
produce it, you listen to it, you give us stuff. Did you like
it? Was it worth five bucks? 50 bucks? is the equivalent of
going out on the weekend? How much time did you spend? And the
reason why is we need to be completely independent for
everything. You can't discuss these topics. Even Why is pig
Ebola not discussed? Is it just because of Bob Muller Barr
Muller Trump? Is that on my bat? Is that is that the only reason?
Or are there other issues at hand? You don't know you can't
even ask them. And we have another one biting the dust as
well. It never really was an independent media outlet. It was
run by or really set up and pre financed by former MTV guru at
Tom Freston, whose great guy comes from the Afghanistan
import export business. Not kidding. So he said, advice
media. And, you know, we've always seen that this kind of an
advertising agency, a lot of people put a lot of stock into
what Vice media does, and they think they're very cool and
irreverent and great. But they ran out of money. And they did a
new debt financing deal, which was led by Come on. Soros yes in
one go exactly. Right. $250 million from a consortium led by
Soros. Wow. Yeah, they've laid off. They've laid off 250
employees about 10% of their staff, then just a few months
ago.
John C. Dvorak: Well, the funny thing is that you bring this up
because I do have a vice clip. Oh, okay. Now, I this was
something that stemmed out of Twitter.
Adam Curry: That's not funny. That's just how our beautiful
magic works sometimes.
John C. Dvorak: So So Carly, Louisiana's it sends me this
clip, cuz I was doing your backing for something with David
Icke. And there was this special on David Icke that Vice had
done, and it was just a slam him. And I watched and I said to
the note to her, I said, you notice the whipsaw? And she said
no. And she said, Okay, I said, I'm gonna play it on the show.
So this is the report that this whole thing was a kind of an
anti Ike documentary done by Vice, and it was done in a very
snide way and it goes into his history. And there's a whipsaw
right at the very beginning, which is just like, why you
Dwight is the point of doing this, but Okay, let's go
Unknown: after arthritis had ended a promising career in
football, he'd become a broadcaster. But that all ended
in one remarkable appearance on the Terry Wogan show, David pike
in a turquoise
Adam Curry: I'll let it play again. I just had to stop that.
That's their entire clip of him Ontario, Ontario Wogan show.
That's it?
John C. Dvorak: No, they play a long clip. But I don't know why
they did it that way. It's
Unknown: arthritis had ended a promising career in football,
he'd become a broadcaster. But that all ended in one remarkable
appearance on the Terry Wogan show, David pike. In a turquoise
tracksuit, he'd announced that he was the Son of God, and the
world will be ending that year. It didn't an egg seem destined
to disappear beneath a typhoon of public laughter.
It's quite it's quite funny, really. You know, 2000 years
ago, had a guy called Jesus sat here and said the same things
you would still be laughing. It's really, really funny that
we've not really moved on that much. They're laughing at you.
They're not laughing with.
But like wouldn't disappear.
Adam Curry: You know, I've seen that interview. That's a total
mischaracterization of the interview that that he said the
world would end in a year and he compared
John C. Dvorak: the whipsaw. First of all, he claims that he
said he's the son of God, he doesn't doesn't he doesn't. He
says that if Jesus was sitting here instead of me instead of
me, not that I'm the son of God, he would have gotten the same
response, which meant probably would be true, but especially if
you watch the way the Family Guy portrays Jesus, and and then he
never says anything about the world is going to end this year.
And the clip clearly, and they play this clip, and I'm not
getting it. Why is what is the point? Well, mischaracterization
is It was outrageous to me.
Adam Curry: If you're vying for 250 million from George Soros
you know, you do the same this is just another version of D
platforming some crazy right wing Nazi Quadroon the
terrorists nationalist supremacist Bold Guy it's the
same it's all the same everyone's following the money
these systems like every ces just like us we're just here
surviving we don't I mean, we have our our network a network
of producers the people who participate in our program and
we're just out for survival vices out for survival Twitter's
Facebook throw out for survival and give a shout out think
Twitter Facebook don't give a crap about anything but
surviving because that's what the organisms do. That's what
the self propagating that's what all propagating systems do just
survival mode we may even be seeking way too much meaning
behind it but in this case the survival Yeah, virtue signal
make everyone with a different comments Soros is a fuckin alien
and reptile at minimum. So you got to discredit the guy who's
calling him out.
John C. Dvorak: Reptile ratio looks like one
Unknown: I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda
Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
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Adam Curry: Paris Coney, actually he says please give me
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marriage karma from my July 4 wedding we'll put that at the
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don't know if he's if he's squandering the letterhead from
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find enclosed the monthly rent payment for my place of sanity.
Cheers. All right. Thank
Adam Curry: you. Gracias
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Adam Curry: What do you mean we lost them and you go overboard.
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Adam Curry: maybe maybe he had to save his money.
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Adam Curry: No, I think he may be is there a title change in
order for him Let me check. No, no
John C. Dvorak: he's a night
Adam Curry: No, he's there was no night night things that all
John C. Dvorak: well if if Eric's doing a search on night,
this was a misspell
Adam Curry: Ah, yes, I see. Okay, so Dan will check let me
we can add him right now. There's no problem. Hey, guys,
get the roundtable ready. We Yeah, we have a knighting
John C. Dvorak: Okay, and he wants to be sir Dan of the J
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Adam Curry: Okay, Knights and
John C. Dvorak: Evernight spelt with a K people just
Adam Curry: and he wants to hold on a second. Sir. Dan of the JW
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The Jay Jay Jay W's. And does he have anything for the roundtable
he wants at the table
John C. Dvorak: is pronounced white check.
Adam Curry: White check. Got it. Yeah.
Okay. Well, thank you very much. And when? Welcome Dan, are we
bringing the table in as we speak at a workout? No problem.
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John C. Dvorak: issue that
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John C. Dvorak: a well I got a little ditty here. That's good.
All right. This is a compilation somebody made from one single
speech of Joe Biden. And just little snippets from his speech,
and it's a drunk no drunk thing oh, by the jingle if you wanted
to play this, but it's pretty obvious to me the answer.
Adam Curry: Let me see we have the jingle for the
Unknown: rich Fitzgerald account executive of Allegheny County
Executive being here in all my time in public life for the
stuff gotten involved. The country wasn't built by Wall
Street bankers, CEOs and and hedge fund managers. At the data
price, it's hard times everybody took a hit. union workers, the
UAW took incredible cuts in the future, the pensions in the lead
to get GM workers. They also got that last year, and try to cut
wages or freeze wages for the people. Right? Today. The same
is happening in big hospitals, big hospital systems, I have
regret to rethink how we define what constitutes a successful
economy. Folks in America don't think your children are gonna
have the same standard of living they had. How can a person
dignity be maintained, be why they do that. It means investing
much more in medical research, to comfort to conquer
devastating diseases like cancer and addiction and Alzheimer's.
So God bless you all and may God protect our troops
Adam Curry: if you think that's drunk or is just old slurry,
man.
John C. Dvorak: I mean, it does have junk. Not that slurry.
Normally, I you know, he goes to these things. He's out of town.
A he's one of those guys that Jake, let's go out to lunch. You
want a low low wine, Joe?
Adam Curry: I really think he's hammered, huh?
John C. Dvorak: Well, maybe he's not if he's not hammered that
he's really shot. I
Adam Curry: was rather tickled about that China comments he
made that we played on the last show. Yeah, I saw drunk there
too. Well, the reason why I was tickled by it is that he said,
Hey, come on, guys. You have to worry about China, yet
forgetting that he and his sons or that his son set up a huge
hedge fund with a billion dollars of Chinese money. A week
after he and his son returned from a trip to China.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, so yeah, it needs to be noted.
Adam Curry: Well, thank you. That's the only saying it needs
to be noted. Wouldn't that be something that needs to be
noted?
John C. Dvorak: And they will note it now. I did. I thought I
had an ISO from this, which I listened to later because I
thought it would be nice at the end of the show because of the
one that that kind of reflected the show but then I listened to
this it was terrible use play it be
Unknown: why they do that.
John C. Dvorak: Then I decided to just take an ISO from a clip
I can't play on the show and I want people to just go look this
up. And you would search for it and on YouTube under dead
raccoon in McDonald's.
Adam Curry: Right. Can't we play that?
John C. Dvorak: It is nothing but cussing. Okay. We could but
I took an it's all just cussing it but it's hilarious because of
this dead raccoon. Now you should look it up to but so by
did pull one thing out of it, which might be a nice ISO which
is only in San Francisco. Okay.
Adam Curry: San Francisco. Oh, that's good. That's a beautiful
ISO done. End of show. Perfect.
John C. Dvorak: Nice of Yes. He's talking about the dead
raccoon only in San Francisco. I can't wait
Adam Curry: for this. Can you give me his Can you give us a
summary of what happened? Yeah, you're holding out a
John C. Dvorak: white guy. And it also changes the usage of the
N word to refer to white bums. Some white homeless guy brought
a dead raccoon that was stiff and had rigor mortis and puts it
on the table in a McDonald's. And so this guy starts filming
it. And it's like the guy the white guy is like, I don't know
what his problem is. But this guy just starts raving about
this idiot bringing this this rabid raccoon into the into the
McDonald's plays and then yelling at the McDonald's
employees. It's just a very, it's a classic YouTube video.
Okay, dead raccoon and McDonald's.
Adam Curry: riveted now I can't wait. I want to end the show
early just so I can get to it.
John C. Dvorak: Now I have one other medley of stuff. But this
is a distance from the Free Beacon. And this is Maxine
Waters. That they stitched together all her rants about
impeachment and the Muller and all the rest of it. I thought it
was worth playing
Unknown: here. You have a president who I can tell you and
guarantee you is in collusion with the Russians. I say that he
was in collusion with Putin. I believe that there really has
been collusion I say that he was in collusion with the Kremlin I
am so depending on our special counsel, Robert Muller to
connect the dots to connect those dots connect the dots dot
dot dot dot dots that dots the dots are connected. The dots are
getting closer. If there was collusion, we'll get to
collusion they have my hopes are Moeller as most people do, I
think is going to be proven that if Muller does his job, I
believe that was collusion and collusion will lead to
impeachment. This is gonna lead right to impeachment, and he
ought to be impeached. So I believe it is possible to
impeach him but we need to impeach him. How long is it
gonna take? I don't know but I give it to about December. We've
got to get the facts. We've got to do the investigation. That is
what leads to impeachment. I think it will lead to the
impeachment of this President and we've got a Millennials stay
well, she does good stuff, doesn't
Adam Curry: she? Now that she's got it,
John C. Dvorak: but she shouldn't be given any airtime.
She's insane.
Adam Curry: I want to do the economic stuff at the very end
here. And we've got a few minutes.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I do have my Brexit clip that I keep
promising and I want to play it so we can be thinking about it
for the next show. Okay,
Adam Curry: let's do that now.
John C. Dvorak: Want to do it now? Yeah. Okay, this, I found a
new strategy that I believe is being used, or is going to be
used, they're going to try to use it and it was and they
tested it, they test marketed it at TVNZ at a New Zealand on the
Haley Holt Breakfast Show. And I think if you read between the
lines, you can see what they're going to try to do. And this
would be this would be the methodology you'd use to get a
redo.
Adam Curry: Okay, so again, this is about Brexit. This is where
we've been waiting for the typical European Union scenario
where they say you voted wrong, Let's vote again. And we've just
been waiting for that for years now. And this may be the
strategy to make it happen. British democracy
Unknown: has been shaken by revelations of cheating by the
Vote Leave campaign during the Brexit referendum. They've been
found guilty of breaking electoral law, with two people
now being referred to the police. So what does this all
mean for the future of Brexit? To explain, we have Professor
Robert Patman from Otago University Good morning.
Good morning. In may leave EU which was one of the major
campaigning groups for Brexit was fine for overspending. And
now vote leave which was fronted by Michael Gove who's a cabinet
minister and Boris Johnson until recently, Foreign Secretary that
has just been fined this week more than 60,000. And also
matters have been referred to the police for further
investigation. This is actually very serious, because vote leave
which goes right to the cabinet, including the Prime Minister,
one of the prime minister's advisors is linked to that
group. They have committed probably the biggest overspend
the biggest electoral irregularities. It's the 19th
century. I mean, we have to remember that this very
contentious referendum in Britain, which has pushed
Britain towards Brexit was decided by wafer thin majority
of 3.7%. But one side overspent by 10%. So this has big
implications.
These are actually criminal offenses. Yes. Do you think that
we need a public inquiry here? Or will there be one?
At the moment? You see Mrs. Mae owes her position to the outcome
of the referendum? So she doesn't actually relish or want
to open up a systematic police inquiry into what's happened.
Adam Curry: Okay, so what are the rules in this
John C. Dvorak: world it's horrible overspend of a massive
10% Which I guess is the biggest scandal in the history of the UK
apparently. I think the idea is of course is to say well they
did they related the rules of engagement we have to do the
election again.
Adam Curry: Right It was do over I told a real do over because of
election
irregularities, that's the word we're looking for. Very good. I
like that.
John C. Dvorak: And they're test marketing this idea in New
Zealand and of course is Haley. Woman is like all in and oh, the
two of them are you know, this professor at one of the local
universities and they're all well, they're all a tizzy. Oh,
geez, I don't know. This is terrible. That's we're scandal
scandal. And it's just this. I think that we're gonna see this
rolled out. That's why I wanted to get it in today. Yeah,
Adam Curry: you're right. And they got to do something pretty
soon because we're, we're coming up on D Day. What is it?
What is the what is the view now? I
John C. Dvorak: think they moved it out.
Adam Curry: I thought they had a final final something they
could. Well, the
John C. Dvorak: final final, final final. But then they got
the final final final final final
Adam Curry: problem is they've got the European Union
parliamentary elections and the Brexit party, apparently is
whatever polls are worth is polling very high. And so yeah,
I thought that would want to get out
John C. Dvorak: as you'd hope that the Liberal Democrats are
the ones that seem to be making hay from this whole thing. And
they're going to, I think move into a position of power. I will
do have a clip of this of the European Parliament where
instead of listening to Nigel Farage, go off on them.
Adam Curry: This is a very isn't this a very old clip? You should
get D for heartstart Aren't you sure this isn't old?
John C. Dvorak: It could be so we won't play it.
Unknown: Well, let me let me check. Thank you very much for
the publicity. Yeah. Mr. President, but Mr. Farage has
the whole morning talked about salaries and, and biggest waste,
waste of money. Well, you know, colleagues, what I think is the
biggest waste of money in European Union of the day.
That's a salary we'll pay to Mr. Fat is the biggest waste of
money. Oh, now, Mr. Farage, let's be honest about it. You
are you are a member of the fishery committee, for example,
and you're never dare never, ever know attendance in 2010.
No, attendance is fantastic. What you're doing, you're coming
here saying it's a scandal. The salaries are Don't be paid. And
you pay yourself a salary without doing any labor in your
own committee. That's the reality of your opinions
John C. Dvorak: was that nothing going?
Unknown: I hope that maybe this can be sent out to the BBC this
evening, once and on all the other private television in
Britain, how you in fact cheating your own citizens here
all the time. Already three years in a row. And I think it
has to finish because we know that Mr. Allen amazulu has
rights these union is it wants to become a real federal union
meat resources needs in fact his own income and that is the big
battle to do now. And we shall do it together. And if it
necessity or without your Mr. Faraj
Adam Curry: All right, good grandstanding. It's about time
someone did that.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I'm glad they did. I thought it was good
for us to run it because it's it balances the what people
perceive as us being pro Farage,
Adam Curry: I don't give a shit what people perceive all this.
I'm
John C. Dvorak: just saying it's nice to have the other side
yelling at him. Yes, pandering. And but the real kicker in that
thing, of course, was not him yelling at him. It was him
announcing that we need our own income taxes for us.
Adam Curry: Yes, that's. Well, France. Timmermans is apparently
high on the list to be the winner of the of the election.
This is a guy I know. I've interviewed him. I've met him a
couple of times. I've run into him at the airport. And he's a
nice guy. You
John C. Dvorak: can invite the both of us to one of the big
meetings they got there and maybe dinner.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm gonna try. You should Dan, I definitely
would like to interview the interviewer. This is the guy who
I who I interviewed on the radio station that eventually got
burned to the ground. Yes. Right. And, and he and he was
there. And he was he had just been to Bilderberg with the
Dutch Queen because he was the secretary, the foreign
secretary, not the Secretary of State but for so the
undersecretary or something. And then he said and I and what
you're doing here, man was pretty good. And you got to keep
that going. Keep the alternative sound. And so now as the fewer
of the European Union. So I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get him
into with him because he's a reasonable guy, for sure. I'm
going to finish
John C. Dvorak: it or he's gonna say
Adam Curry: who? Now he remembers. He remembers. Thanks,
John. Thanks for being all positive about that. I'm trying
to do something show
John C. Dvorak: is my negative attitudes gonna kill the
interview? Anyway, you'll get him but he won't do it.
Actually, the public relations woman won't let it happen. And
but
Adam Curry: if you go through Twitter, you get stuff done.
start tweeting and then he gets interested.
John C. Dvorak: Okay, so it MailChimp
Adam Curry: the President the President is trying to find a
new member for the for the Fed board, the Federal Reserve
Board, Herman Cain pulled out because they said, Oh, you're
just a stupid pizza guy. Even though he'd been on the Fed
board before and they threatened him with some true or not,
doesn't matter, some improprieties. And the Stiva
piece even more piece of Stephen Moore had made a lot of stupid
jokes. And so he says he pulled back but listening to this
report. I question if it was really his decision,
Unknown: more had said some pretty unsavory things about
women in the past. He follows the pizza executive Herman Cain,
who withdrew his name not too long ago, what what tipped the
scales here against more? Yeah,
you had a bunch of Senate Republicans outspoken to the
fact that they were going to be dis not comfortable with kind of
rubber stamping this guy's nomination, even though he was
out there telling the world that it was going to fly through the
Senate. But maybe his most fatal flaw was coming out. I think in
a Bloomberg interview and disagreeing with this
President's idea that the Federal Reserve should cut rates
right now in this economic expansion. Maybe that was the
death knell for him.
Adam Curry: And I think that that is the reason I think Trump
said you have the wrong idea. I want the Fed Federal Reserve to
cut the interest rate. In fact, from what I understand Trump is
talking about up to a percent, which is pretty big. And lo and
behold, what showed up on my radar this morning is John
Williams, and John Williams, we were introduced to John
Williams. Thanks to you, John C. Dvorak. John Williams is the guy
behind shadow stats. And we had some very interesting numbers
come out, we had a blowout GDP. We had even lower unemployment
even though the number one shadow stats number we've always
looked at is the use six and the the real unemployment versus
people who have just fallen off the escalator and are sleeping
under i 35. Because you just don't count as looking for a
John C. Dvorak: job. So the edge and you willingness believes
that they should be counted.
Adam Curry: He certainly and I think so, too. Yeah, they're
unemployed. Yeah, they're unemployed. And they should be
work able. But he agrees with Trump on the interest rate cut.
And for good reason. Remember, all these fancy numbers, we're
doing great, everything's fantastic Butler's
Unknown: in a great deal of variance in terms of the quality
of the numbers. And you also have different people with
different political perspectives. That when I see it
go one way or the other, I can tell you that the I mean, one of
the one of the great examples there right now is the headline
first quarter GDP that was just recently recently reported, came
in at 3.2%. Expectations had been all over the place, but
maybe in the middle was two and a half percent. I thought it was
going to come in well below consensus below 1%, eventually
revised to a contraction came in well above what anyone was
forecasting that I could see. And so I was wrong on that. But
as I looked at the components, a lot of the components there
showed exactly what I was looking for. We have a recession
in place, it's just a matter of its of its of its playing out in
some of these other funny numbers, getting worked out. The
reality is on the downside, where you have mixed pressures
right now, people are really concerned about the economy. And
that includes President Trump, particularly looking at
reelection. But he's been pushing on the economy for a
long time. And he's been arguing the Fed should lower rates and
what the Fed created the circumstance, they're pushing
for the economy on the upside, because they want to continue
raising rates, banks make more running money there. And they're
still trying to liquidate the problems that they created by
the bank bailout back in the banking system bailout back in
2008. That's an extraordinary time, I can't remember anything
quite like this. Ultimately, I'm looking at are going into a new
recession, by that by the end of this year, I see the Fed being
forced into renewed easing, perhaps quantitative easing.
Adam Curry: I have to admit, I'm not an economist, but I have the
feeling to I don't know, buying these numbers, everything's so
great. I'm just not seeing it. And on the GDP, and this, it's
in the shownotes is a pretty good interview. He explains the
the GDP are the the trade, the trade balance changes. And that
affects GDP. And the reason that trade balance change is not
because we start exporting a lot more, in fact, quite the
opposite. Because of the way he says it, the rate increases by
the Federal Reserve that we saw in the past year and a half,
have actually stopped spending. So we're just buying vendor list
crap from from China and other countries. And that's why the
GDP numbers up because of the trade balance, but not because
we're doing so great.
John C. Dvorak: Well, he just kind of explains the apparently
Trump has been suggesting a quantitative easing, QE. But I
don't know what numbers you mean by hand by now. Yeah. In right
in the face of the of the GDP being 3.2, which also surprised
Horowitz quite a bit because he had this rather elaborate theory
as to why it was so good in the fourth quarter. And in he
expected a drop off, and I think Williams must have expected
something lower too. So there but they've been futzing with
the numbers. And it started with Obama. I mean, if you look at
Williams as charts for unemployment and inflation,
especially unemployment, you look at where the where the
three lines because there's there's the you six, four, it
was four, but but there's a shadow stats number and they're
they're pretty much clumped together and they follow a
certain pattern and they're all lined up in parallel, and then
all of a sudden it diverges right when Obama gets in office
and he just goes completely because they're starting to lie
about the numbers and I think they're still doing it. And I
think Trump about the past he's always
Adam Curry: bitched about the numbers and now now he's doing
it too yeah well he's yes he's taking
John C. Dvorak: credit not maybe he wants to stop it
Adam Curry: well what he Well what I see him saying is look at
how great the numbers are guys low stopped stop we're gonna die
here we're gonna die he knows I mean he this he I think he
actually understands this very well this macro stuff and the
understands the payments and he certainly understands interest
rates. So I'm in agreement I think I think we're on the on
the cusp but just feel I have no no academic backup for this
other than I can just see it. I see the stores closing lots of
stores closing in downtown Austin, lots of pop up stores.
Here we are for for two weeks. All the little boutiques all
going out of business can't afford the rents which is a
direct result of the interest going up Correct.
John C. Dvorak: You would have a lot to do with it. If people
jacking up the rents and need to just put a buy round here is
hard to see except for the homeless situation and the poop
on the street and all the rest of it. Yeah, it looks as though
there's like as somebody's fooling themselves we got to
traffic problems of a boom now we have a huge traffic problems
because of the boom so the traffic is all jacked up.
There's jobs to be had because of the boom, but but parallel to
the boom there's this mess. And it's even here where there
shouldn't be the mess at all considering we shouldn't have
the city of San Francisco crawling with homeless tents.
encampments all over the place poop on the street, everybody
drugged up. It just shouldn't be there. It shouldn't be
paralleling the boom and it's and it is and it's a bad sign as
far as I'm concerned. At least it's kind of I agree. It's just
not good.
Adam Curry: I agree. We have to say about it.
John C. Dvorak: They can't afford to the potholes are a
problem. What's Why can't you be if everything's booming or want
your fish fix the damn potholes?
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm not very happy note of we're all going to
die. We're going to leave you we know you want to come back on
Thursday because we'll make you happy again I promise. Coming up
on the no agenda stream after this grumpy old Ben's Episode
Seven cord cutting that should be fun to listen to. And part of
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I'd like to say in the morning everybody I'm Adam curry
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where my
advice is to eat pig while you can Jhansi
Adam Curry: Special thanks to sideboard Dave Tara Starkweather
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Cinco Demayo and such tell me about the sexuality in your
entertainment
John C. Dvorak: table we must do it because it's a big boner this
fish is raw. Great pleasure. If I pick the right button knows
that a tie around the neck especially if you tie it
properly. It cuts down and cuts your blood to the brain beats
price effective it is to come to these things. I've been timing
Adam Curry: better than a vaccine before fish you could
have the the ribs or the sacrificial
Unknown: ribs.
Once you go to picture official reel to measure getting Sam on
Ridgeville fan finish. We got to do Sorry to break through your
job. But the ribs are also far
John C. Dvorak: some people like fish. See, here's the problem I
have with that fish. Fish.
Unknown: Oh real looking down
John C. Dvorak: with your fish or any fish. It's salmon, and
it's probably farmed reinfused got the job the problem is
farmers salmon is the it squeaks when you join us when you get
this right yes,
Adam Curry: yes it was on the farm Sam and has the white booze
Not a fan agreed
to unfortunately there was a snafu and you're getting salmon
sorry from your uncle Adam and Uncle John, you might want to
have some memories later on and it's gonna go away if you if you
trust it to Instagram, here's a crazy idea. Here's a crazy crazy
thought that I've advocated for many times, print some out
John C. Dvorak: who you just said I think is a great idea.
I've
Adam Curry: been saving photos all my life and I know that at
least one or two of my drives will never fire up again. Just
take a couple make a selection
John C. Dvorak: you could put you know two or three quote
unquote rolls on thumb drive and take it to Costco and they'll
print these things out now inexpensively about the same
you'd have to pay for supplies to do it yourself but fairly
inexpensively and you'll and you will have these backups and they
actually the gear that they're the big print guys have is a
little better than what you generally have it
Adam Curry: credibly sad that they're storing this on
Instagram and that can go away you know that can get deleted,
you can get kicked off and anything can happen and just
imagine it's going to be an entire generation of children
who get old and die in the tummy nothing left step away from the
crowd those days because you Foxton max you won't give up the
impeachments it's wrong or if it's right away from the crowd
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