Hi Adam curry Jhansi Devorah
Thursday March 7 2019. This is your award winning get my nation
media assassination episode 1118 This is no agenda, tracking the
new birther movement and broadcasting live from the hub
of European travel in the stipple runway sleep in the
morning, everybody. Hi, I'm Adam curry
from Northern Silicon Valley where we shouting at the Canada
30 threes everybody. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Raglan Buzzkill.
Oh, what about Scandinavia and 30 threes? What's going on magic
number time.
The ministers laughed at 33 this 33 That's a lot of threes. 30
threes? It was like a week of it.
Hmm. And coincidence. Coincidence? Coincidence.
Netflix has a new show on which is called? Well, it's called
dark. It's a German show, but they've dubbed it. So the voices
are dubbed. Here's a it's actually the whole show is is
themed around this.
You wrote about the lunar solar cycle in which everything
repeats itself every 33 years.
From a cosmic point of view. In our oscillatoria universe,
roughly 33 years the moon's orbit become synchronized to the
sun, it's at that number. Entering occurs in our world
everywhere. Jesus performed a total of 33 miracles. There were
33 Lip knees of the angels. Dante's 33 cantos enveloped
purgatory 33 More in his paradise.
It's also the age of which the antichrists rule began.
Yeah, never doubt the magic number.
You know, I've run into I had a guest on I was doing silicone
spin. I had a guest, who sounded great. He was he, he was at the
end of the table, and his hand he talked like that guy. Talk
like this. So you could barely hear him. In fact, you couldn't
hear him. He would pick the mic and pick him up and they jack up
the mic. So it sounded great. When you listen to the show, you
had this guy with his voice like that, like that guy. Those
people would talk like that. You cannot hear them.
No, no, you can't. So your question is,
are we supposed to believe that this guy's sitting around
talking like that when nobody can hear him? At three of this
Baskin Robbins is first
33. I thought that 32 flavors, I thought they were one short of
the number. It's 3030. So here I am in, in the hotel room and the
runway suite at Schiphol Airport. Sounds good. Well,
yeah, it's soundproof, which is great, because you can see the
planes you can see him taken off. You can't hear him. But
it's also it's like dead in here. It's like living in a
coffin. I mean, even the air doesn't make noise. Turn on the
heating now. No noise. Yeah, but it's good. It's good to be here.
I've learned a lot of things. What's the name of this? Hotel?
Cool. Well, how about I not give the name of the hotel? How's
that for? How's that for an idea? How about not do the
towels are in the airport? There's not many. There's really
only three I think so
that you always stay to B and B's or somebody's house. Yeah,
but it makes
no sense to stay in Amsterdam anymore. I mean, it's just too
busy. You can't get get around anywhere. So it would have to be
somewhere I'd want to be in and for some reason, which I don't
have. I was here only for two things. Of course, one to see
Christina who's in Rotterdam easier to get there from
somewhere in the middle of town from the airport. But I was here
for for my buddy Lexuses book release is a book book. So for
some context for people who are new to the show, the first guy
who ever hired me when I was 19, right out of the pirate radio
station in Amsterdam was Lex Harding. And he he hired me and
now started my my professional career. But he dates back to the
the the North Sea pirate ships. And if you if you haven't heard
of them, then there's a pretty good movie called I think the
boat that rocked which is a gives you an idea of what it was
like was not really exactly true. So he, someone wrote a
book about him in a narrative style, like an interview style,
and it's 50 years of what he has done for media ever since the
pirate ships and he started telling me he really brought
commercial media to the Netherlands. I don't know if
everyone should be happy about it. But he did bring that it's a
it's a political story, of course fighting against the
mainstream government controlled airwaves. And he wanted to
promote his book on the number one kind of hoity toity elite
talk show. Hosted by actually she she's a She's an American,
but she moved to Holland when she was 11 Eva G, Nick. And
they'd said, Well, yeah, we'd love to promote your book. But
you're not really that interesting. If you can bring
Adam curry along, we'll have your
he called, it's kind of embarrassed.
He really wants to promote this book. He's I think he's 7273. So
he's kind of this is one of his last projects. He's going to do
something else. And so yeah, to me ticket. I'm there no problem.
But it was, I learned a lot of things on this trip. First of
all, if I can start with Schiphol Airport, I have not
seen this anywhere in the state ship but now on every door of
the airport it's as a sign this terminal uses a Wi Fi and
Bluetooth based tracking system. Your privacy is ensured?
What is the wasn't didn't they used to have signage and and
hospitals warning people who had pacemakers or any sort of device
in the bodies that you couldn't have a cell phone on? Yeah, you
couldn't do that you couldn't do this. But now it's just
everywhere. Is that what does that what you're telling me?
No, what I'm telling you is, whenever when you that's what
you're telling me. When you right on top, when you walk
through the airport, you are as an individual being tracked. If
you have a phone, on your person or any device that has either or
Wi Fi and Bluetooth enabled, they are tracking you or they're
watching your movements. Why? For your for your security, of
course. Hello, that's easy. Next thing I learned, I hopped in a
cab, and he made I don't know if you remember that so many a lot
of Tesla's are taxis in in Amsterdam. And they've upgraded
them so they went from the s 90s to the x. And if you go to the
yes goofball, the good one. Well, I waited for an X I didn't
I waited like one car because there's enough of them. And I
want to sit in this thing. The Goofy door open up almost hit me
in the face. The driver opens the the gullwing door they go
stand back a little bit. To get in. I'm talking to the guy. It's
an interesting vehicle on the inside. But he says now this car
is we have I think that a fleet of 50 for this particular cab
company. Just 10% of them think it was four or five of the 54 He
says they Creek and Matt let me tell you this thing Creek like
crazy. When you break the creek when you move the steering wheel
the whole it's just like the whole car was creaking. It was
really
awesome. You're using goes bad glues.
That's That's what I thought it would be. But I mean, if it was
bad glue, wood wood is that. Does that mean the the joints
are the breaking point if it's creaking?
I have no idea I've never done this story is brand new to me.
Well, I
think we should pay attention to it because he says it's about
10% everywhere. And these cab drivers know because they talk
to each other. So something to look out for now new rules in
the Netherlands they already have these spots on the highway
where you know the speed zone where they they hit you at the
beginning and then they say you better drive 80 kilometers an
hour here because we know how long it should take you to get
to the other end. Right? speed zones? Yeah, but now they've
added something new. All the overpasses have cameras that are
specifically installed to catch drivers on their smartphone. And
this is all algorithmic it's automated. So if you have a
smartphone in your hand while the camera catches you, you get
an automatic 240 euro fine sent home. Wow, that's pretty pretty
efficient.
It was we should be doing that here.
I'm not against it really. I don't like the spying aspect.
But man there are so many people on their smartphones. So we go
to the studio and the show starts at 11pm is live 11 to
midnight.
But oh they actually run it at those hours they don't run it on
a delay. No, no it's live late night talk shows you're down
about five or six in the afternoon right now
and this you know because that politicians you know news of the
day so for instance, you know Well Michael Jackson you know
with the documentary now it's the documentary has been
broadcasting in the Netherlands. And so what do you think you
know, the radio stations are refusing to play Michael
Jackson. Tim, this is bullshit. The total horse crap this radio
stations have been doing I've been pulling this stunt before
decades. What didn't we just have it with Baby it's cold
outside off. Let's stop playing that. Rock and roll is gotta go
we're breaking all records, steam, steam rolling, Abba
steamrolling disco, you know, this is the oldest radio
promotion trick in the world to get your station call letters
have to be promoted. And that oh, we're not going to play any
Michael Jackson, please. Yeah,
was even some VG I saw an article by Cambray and some
email. Not Vijay. I'm sorry, but big DJ that does the big dances.
The raves.
Also not playing Michael Jackson.
Yeah, he made a big fuss about it. And I'm thinking about it.
Wait a minute, I never heard of this person. You're gonna
boycott
Quincy Jones. Way to go. That's the guy I want to boycott.
Anyway, so that's we're waiting for, for the show to start. The
country is going nuts. They're not on the street. They're all
inside. And people are jumping up and down in the green room.
Because massive upset I ox beat rail Madrid, in the I think it's
the UEFA Champions League, whatever round they're in. And
this hasn't happened in 22 years. And the city the country
went nuts. When completely G completely. There were guys the
next day on on the same show, actually, I think was the same
show that I was on the night before. And these were, you
know, like sports commentators were reading poetry, their
poetry about this match. I mean, it was bizarre. It does just
give beside themselves with joy.
Yeah, that's kind of I've always been fascinated by this, which
is an because it does. It does something to the whole country
that is psychological. And I've always thought it was something
sinister about it. Because of the nature of it too, because of
the insanity of it. And I have always thought it was had. It
was one of the reasons they kept trying to push soccer down the
throats of the American public. Which we've never really adapted
to. Because we have we developed our own games. And we don't
really have room for another one. But there are people
European style people or lip Joes. You know, we're all into
soccer.
Yeah. Well, we know it'll never work in the US because you can't
stop for commercial. So it hasn't exactly has no televised
future in the ointment has no televised future for now, if
we're now on the ointment like that, that's good. Okay, other
things happening here. Just I'm almost done with this little
rundown give, you know what's happening. Big raucous as the
Dutch healthcare system, which I learned by the way really is
completely communist. I didn't realize that you even if you
want it to you cannot pay privately for services anymore.
With the with the new Dutch system, which went into effect?
I don't know, 10 years ago, I think it's, it's, it's not
allowed. They have combined they've completely it's
basically Medicare for all you pay, you know, 150 euros or
something, it does go to it to an actual private insurance
company. But you cannot go to any hospital, any doctor and
say, I want to skip the line because you're waiting in line
for any kind of scheduled service. I want to pay
privately. No, no. If it's not through the insurer, you're not
allowed to do it. Why? That's the law.
That's what why why is the law implement? What's the rationale?
Fuck if I
know to bankrupt everybody, I don't know. I don't know what
the to get everyone sick to determine when they can die. I
really don't understand why. But isn't that what some people are
claiming with Medicare for all the same for the states the same
idea?
I haven't seen any that provides.
Okay. Anyway, the reason I bring it up is because there's a big
to do, because apparently the system doesn't work too well. So
they're cutting here and there and one of the cuts they made is
in vitro insemination for lesbians. Which up till now used
to be a no they cut that. Yes, it used to be a paid service.
And now it's like no, no, no babies for you.
Oh, that's gotta go. You have a few people upset?
Yes, I would say but the most upsetting to people is the
people in thronging it and we've talked about this.
Before you go to the Groningen thing. Let's talk about all
right. You just mentioned which is can you pay to have that
done?
No. No, of course not. It's
part of it was not on the schedule of things allowable.
You cannot even if you went to England and paid to have it done
in the UK,
they glow gladly accept your money to go private remember
Christina? Her? She did an MRI? Yeah,
yeah, exactly. So if you leave the confines of the Netherlands,
well,
yes, of this of this system, then you can do it. But yeah, I
think the whole the whole procedure takes is like 1000
euros a shot. And it doesn't always take. So now,
back to groaning, groaning Okay,
so we've been talking about the earthquakes there for a couple
of years. And of course, our own void zero mark lives there. And
he's been given us first hand information, and all shook up
now, why were these earthquakes happening? Common knowledge,
everyone knew that this is because of the fracking, that
the judges are doing up there for natural gas. And the
earthquakes have caused, you know, buildings to you know,
some basically to collapse others, you know, just ripping
it the seams that are all dropping
as a lot of historic buildings have been destroyed by this
process.
And so finally, after years of this going on, there's going to
be a party mountaire on Katha a parliamentary inquiry which is
kind of comparable to a special prosecutor almost like a Moller
investigation into what's been going on how long people knew
about it. Why nothing was done of course is all this is that
talked about so is the number one guy so one shell that they
knew this I knew this was happening for years, the
politicians knew it. They didn't do anything about it. And so now
we're going to turn every overturn over stone over and
find the culprits. It just happens to be two weeks before a
very important election here that this is announced.
Obviously, then the country is very divided. It's almost it's
almost like the states where you have you know, politics and
media, West Coast, East Coast, everyone in the middle is just
flyover Shut up slave state. So Froning, way up north outside of
the the, the kernel of the media and politics was kind of
centered around Amsterdam, The Hague. And so no one believes
that it's just there. It's ripping everyone apart. The
North hates the middle the middle hates the rest. The South
hates everybody. It's it's just like the US fractal. It is a
fractal. I wish I had the frog. I first had the fractal jingle.
Yes. Well, this is a lot. They moved as you as you wrap this we
can transfer what's going on in Canada?
Well, let me just give you one more thing. Now actually, that's
fine. We'll wrap this. So yes, what's going? Yeah, actually,
they had a earthquake in Canada. Navia. Right. Did I did I read
that somewhere in
the middle of nowhere in the flat area 4.6 quake, which was
and it was, and the Canadians don't even think twice about
this. They stopped all fracking. In this. It was in the blow huge
region of Alberta. And it's not even it's not even an issue.
They know that it's that fracking causes quakes in some
areas. And they just took care of it. It's not like there's a
debate. I don't understand why. Why in Holland and elsewhere.
There's a debate about it. And that Canadians, by the way, are
very savvy about oil technologies. They not only have
real oil that they can drill for. They have fracking and they
have shale oil. They have tar sands. I mean, if anybody knows
about oil, the oil business or the people that are on Alberta,
do you have a clip? Do you have a clip, I give a clip 4.6 quake
Canada,
the right leader says Vesta energy reported the activity
early Monday morning and immediately shut down its
operations. The aer is now ordering that those operations
remain stopped indefinitely. The regulators order reading in part
quote, It considers it necessary to suspend the well in order to
protect the public and the environment in order that all
operations at the site are suspended immediately, unless
otherwise directed. Now no one was injured and no properties
were damaged. fracking operations started back on
January 29. At the same color red year up until March 4 When
that quake happened. The Alberta energy regulator is now ordering
Vesta to submit operational data for that time period and list
any current or future operations for fracking in the red urine
Sylvan Lake areas. Vesta is also ordered to submit a fracturing
operating plan looking at how we can eliminate or reduce any
future activity that could cause a quick like this. All of those
orders must be given to the AER by March 11. Mr. Energy
responded with a statement as well reading in part the safety
of the public employees and contractors is paramount. And
Vesta takes this incident very seriously. The company is
cooperating with the Alberta energy regulator and is focused
on meeting the conditions required to lift that order. Now
blinking Once the regulator gets all of those documents that it
needs, from Vesta, it will look into if the proper regulations
were followed in this case, then it can look into the next steps.
But there's no timeline at this point of when investors
operations could be back up and running.
They just totally get gas up. They're just done in this
dicking around having a special investigator that just shut it
down, done, go over the documents and see what the
hell's going on here. Well, this baffles me how these people in
these other areas are so buffaloed, and that the public
or any member of the public would take the side of the
frakkers, when all of a sudden you're having an earthquake.
It's just make it's never made any sense to me. I have
the Canadian Minister of Environment and Climate Change.
I didn't know that was an actual post environment and climate
change. Her
name is Canadians are imperfect
Catherine McKenna. She was at a Trudeau rally where he was
ignoring anything sad about what he's been doing. And this is how
the Minister of climate change sounds.
So let's talk about climate change for a second who believes
is real. Who believes in science? We got a report last
year that said we have 12 years to take serious climate action.
We are all in this together. We need to act. And just remember
last year, who remembers last summer I do? Who remembers the
extreme heat that we felt last summer? Who remembers that
people literally died?
It is for her astonishing? How come where there's only climate
when it's hot? Yeah, that's when it's cold. I mean, I had said
something on Twitter. Hey, it's good. You know, you some do you
make some joke about is freezing cold. And then you bitch and
moan you say something about climate change? Oh, Trump,
whether it's not, whether it's not climate, whether it's not
climate? These people do the same thing on the other side of
the coin, it's arguable to me.
No, you can believe it, you know it by now. It's staggered. Okay.
That's
the extreme heat that we felt last summer, who remembers that
people literally died of extreme heat. I've called people I
called Mothers.
I called Mothers. Like she's calling mothers of soldiers who
were killed overseas, I called Mothers in it.
In British Columbia, where there were forest fires. Remember
those forest fires, they were scared for their kids to go
outside, because the air quality was so bad. And who remembers a
couple years ago, just by the DVP, where there was a flash
flood rains. And it was actually flooded the DVP. And it drops a
whole bunch of commuters.
Now, all of this talk, which I think John and I really, you
know, we don't believe we're going to be dead in 12 years, we
don't believe that if we don't change something significantly,
it's all going to be over in 10 to 12 years.
And we have, we have backup, we have plenty of plenty of
plenty of backup. However, people are being affected by
this to an extreme degree, that children certainly, of course,
children are being abused and pushed, pushed in front of
crowds and television cameras after they've been brainwashed
with this. And it's just repetition. You just keep
repeating it. You keep saying that you say stuff like this
woman is saying, but you have fires. Now kids hear this, this
thing called the internet, they're on it. And when they
grew up, and when they're a little bit older, and they're
thinking about having kids, what do you think happens? Well enter
the birth strikers.
And why are you on birth strike life?
Because I'm terrified. And That's putting it mildly. So our
planet is in a kind of collapse. The natural world is collapsing
around us. And that's actually happening right now.
Yes. So, yes.
Looking out the window. Not at the bud flush. I see people go
into work and they're just in the trees are still here. And
there's grass on the
so this is, Oh no, you're wrong. This is a movement. It's the
birth striker movement. These are this is the BBC interview.
These women are mobilized, have you collectively they are going
on strike. They are not going to give birth because they feel it
will only be worse for the children they bring into the
world. And let's hear more of the propaganda and fear that has
been pumped into them.
And I'm so disappointed by the response by our authorities to
this crisis.
And you can hear the talking points. This is what they've
been told.
So freaked out. It's a matter of repetition. Yes. It's just a
goal and over and over again.
And I'm so disappointed by the response by our authorities to
this crisis. And so freaked out by it. Everything that I've read
that I've, I've basically last year, I came to the decision
that I couldn't bring a child into that. And I was asking
around, people that I know, put it up a little bit out on
Facebook and realized actually quite a lot of other people and
making this decision. Yeah. So we realized it was really,
really important to, to tell the public that there are people out
there that are so scared about this, that they feel that they
can't actually have a family. And you have come
to the same conclusion, Allison, yeah, I
have I'm, I mean, each day for me is, is a struggle, I really
do just, I'm so depressed, I feel so hopeless over how you
know, I'm reading just in the last couple of months, even the
insect numbers are plummeting so fast, it now threatens the
collapse nature, that we're losing, by the
way, it gets better. She has this from Richard Attenborough
destroying biodiversity so quickly that that threatens our
food and the UN have said that that can lead to the risk of our
own extinction. David Attenborough going on TV to say
the collapse of civilization could come from this. I know
that is so hard to really stick with in taking. But I have done
that. And that has led to just a fear that I've never felt
before. And my decision to strike
I
almost done mostly has come from not wanting to pass that fear on
to someone else if we're in this situation. Now. You know, even
since my parents had me we've destroyed 60% of, of life on
this planet. What would that be like on my child's life? Well,
that'd be 10% left. That's not just to do with being you know,
a nature wildlife enthusiasts like I am. That's actually
that's dangerous as well.
So life and death,
life and death. That's right. This is what this is what this
is the result. This is this is what happens now.
I think it's done on purpose. You want these people to fight?
There's a couple of aspects. First of all, it thins the herd.
I was gonna say it does eliminate weakness from the gene
pool, doesn't it?
Yeah, you got dummies that probably shouldn't reproduce. It
sounds like they have no logical abilities to just think
straight. They're stupid. And okay, we got rid of them. It's
just but it's, it's sick. Yeah. Just sick.
I don't know what to make of it. Other than
I mean, AOC came out and told people not to have kids.
While the new while she she said she said, it's it's right that
people question that. But this is a dangerous message. This is
not very smart, unless it's all part of the plan. And that's why
we need to bring in everyone from South America.
And I have no idea. Maybe it's possible. If you want to really
be a conspiracy, conspiracy person, you could make all kinds
of conclusions, but it's not good for this society. It's not
good for the culture, they'd have all these people like this
all freaked out. It's not healthy. It's not good for
anything. It doesn't mean you can't get a good workforce if
you have everyone thinking like this, but I mean, they're, they
kind of think like, this is Silicon Valley, and they're
doing okay.
And I mean, the BBC, who no longer allow dissenting voices.
When it comes to climate change voices. This is the BBC people
take that seriously. The BBC is to is to be believed by
most. Yes. So to be believed Corporation, yes. Exactly.
What else is going on in your neck of the woods today?
Well, since we just were taught, we were to kind of touching on
Trudeau, I want to get a couple of things out of the way. Okay,
which was they have this thing on CBC called the red chair.
Yeah. And they go to various parts of the country and they
drop a red share.
This is a this is format I've seen in in Europe.
Yeah, well, that's probably what they say. We have nothing like
that so far that I've seen in the United States. There's a
couple of they have a lot of interesting ideas that could be
employed, but we don't do it. But they do. And it was it's
about Trudeau, okay. Because, you know, we didn't really
discuss this, but Trudeau is, is in a lot of trouble. And, uh,
yeah, it's good to talk about climate change and to keep
people from thinking about well,
this is the SNC Lavell in that we talked about on the last show
with the with the operation $30,000 worth of hookers.
And you get a lot of hookers. Yeah. So there's a there's an
election coming up. And that's the as you pointed out, and so
they put the red chair down on on the CBC that people talk
about what they think's going on. So let's play that. The Red
share segment of the CBC but and this guy cut a lot of it out
because mostly music and they're dramatizing it. That's about
what people are thinking on the street.
The Liberals have taken a hit in the polls since this all began,
while the opposition parties have gained some ground and with
an election now about seven months away that matters,
especially in ridings like Peterborough, Kawartha, just
northeast of Toronto. It's represented now by liberal
cabinet minister Marion Moncef, but the area has flipped back
and forth between liberals and conservatives for decades. So we
took our red chair there today to see how voters are feeling
now.
So they, they really show this they have this guy with a red
share, and he puts it,
is it a is it a comfy chair? Is it just a wooden?
comfy chair? It's a it's like an office? Waiting Room chair.
Okay. A cheap one, you know, and but it's very red. So here we
go. Who's just a few, a few, a few thoughts from Canada.
What do I think of my Prime Minister?
I would like to see him resign. So I feel that if he can't get
his own house in order, he doesn't have the confidence of
the country. And he certainly doesn't have my confidence that
he can run the government of Canada.
I know what a lot of other people think of him.
Say want him out.
I feel like he's in a tough spot. But he probably got
himself in that mess.
I think Justin Trudeau is the man for me in office, and I
would vote for him again tomorrow. If tomorrow were
Election Day.
I actually don't think that it's that rageous that the the
government of the day is going to want to see a company like
SNC Lavalin, stay afloat and stay alive and employ people in
in Quebec. In the last
election. I voted for Trudeau.
In any upcoming elections, I will definitely be rethinking
that decision.
It's going to be interesting. This year, since Bill C 76 was
passed in December, which requires all online platforms.
It's the Canadian bill to keep a registry of all political and
partisan advertisements they directly or indirectly Publish.
And since they haven't been able to figure that out, they are
going to ban all political ads before the Canadian election.
Good luck with that, by the way it's supposed to be Yeah, it's
directly or indirectly. So I mean, does that mean a link from
something as well? So they are going to remove search results?
I don't see this. I don't see how this is going to work is
going to be
able to see how the media can put up with it. Why? Well, you
can't have you can't
ban advertising. Oh, no, no, just just online not not on
television. Oh, just online. By the way. I don't know what they
do on television. I have no idea how it works in Canada with the
with political ads. But online is definitely important. And
there's an actual bill that requires platforms to do
something. And so now they're going to ban all political ads.
Good luck, directly or indirectly. I think this is
going to be it. This is going to be messy. They can't do it.
The way you'd go about it if you wanted to circumvent this of
course with some really high quality native ads. Right then
you'd have to give some money would have to change hands.
And that's that's always problematic. damn money. I don't
know. I don't know. I
just reported someone. Indeed. I mean, signing up both Lucy. Does
that sound right?
Well, it's in the report is out and said the banning at all. I
mean, I it kind of brings me to Joe Rogan did a three and a half
hour podcast with co host Tim Poole. Remember that guy? The
guy with the with the beanie hat?
Not really? Yeah, yeah.
We talked about him. And he I played a clip. I thought it was
no good, but he's actually pretty damn good. It's just kind
of okay. It's kind of a Shapiro way of speaking. And so he
brought on Jack Dorsey again. So this is the second time that
Jack Dorsey is on. And of course, you know, the first time
that people had a problem with the fact that Rogan hadn't
really disclosed that, you know, the Cash App, which is the big
as an advertiser on the show, and, of course, that's also
Dorsey with square company. So people had little couple of
issues about that. But we They felt that no justice had been
done to the D platforming issue. And we played a couple of clips
from it's like, yeah, it's about behaviors and that's the kind of
stuff they're looking for. And he was pretty clear that you
know, algos really can't do that much. So now, he came back and
he brought along vid Jaya Gaddy gad Gatti, then that is his.
She's in charge of trust and safety. That was
the one they've had plenty of clips from on different online
operations bitching about her?
Yes. And she's, she's incredibly smart. She's very well spoken
has an answer for almost everything, but and I listened
to the whole to the whole show and it's entertaining. And, you
know, everyone's really well prepared. But they all without
coming to the conclusion. They all kind of figured out that
well, there is no way to police speech based upon behavior
within any context and make it scale. I mean, at a certain
point, I think Jack even says it is hard to scale. And they only
have 4000 people working at Twitter, none of those do this
work to they have all these contractors who are trying to
understand, you know, the difference between I'm going to
take you out as in I'm threatening to kill you, or some
guy saying that because they play War World. World of
Warcraft again, take
her out to dinner. Yeah, exactly. So it's gonna take you
out.
So it's impossible to police this from a technological
standpoint, the AI doesn't work the M that ML doesn't work at
all. So Pete
and I just to stop you for a second. You know, all this talk
about, you know, AI and all the rest of it when somebody can
translate a French wine site and not keep saying Castle instead
of chateaux. Called,
yeah, there's your context seat. There's your constant drumbeat.
Yep. And it's like, if you what if you haven't gotten that far,
with making being able to do that little Yeah, so bullcrap.
Yes. And what they kind of figure out without saying it,
although the accusation goes and there's defense about it is your
policing based upon bias, which of course is true? Because your
bias is how you read something, because that's all it is
Twitter, how you read something within context, and what you
actually what your feeling is about it, and I have the best
example. And so that's the only the only clip I need to play
from this three and a half hours was about the deep platforming
of Alex Jones, because of course that was, is there something you
need to ring the bell about? The
deep lie to you? That was your forced lipsmack.
Thank you. It's also much later here. So I have more snackage
available. Now. It's just
telling seven after the third one, I said, well, but then I
said, Okay.
Okay, thanks. I appreciate it. Sorry. That's okay. That's a
good point
that gone on but you're saying it's probably one clip out of
the three and a half hours? Yeah,
well, yes. And it's about deep platforming of, of Alex Jones.
And this is a perfect example of bias. And, to such a degree,
Twitter had such a bias in this example, as told by the chief
muckety muck of trust and safety herself, that they don't even
realize they were wrong. In this particular, in this particular
instance, and and of course, I can back that up. So again, it's
all about behavior. Remember, Periscope is also busy is also a
Twitter property. So when something happens there that
counts towards your, you know, your platform ability on on
Twitter. And so here is yes. So here's the clip from the show
where she she explains exactly what happened. And I'm going to
refute this, we did not follow we we resisted, just being like
a domino with our peers, because it wasn't consistent with our
rules and the contract we've put in
before our customers. So what was it that made you ban them?
So there were three separate incidents that came to our
attention after the fact that were reported to us by by
different users. There was a video that was uploaded that
showed a child's being violently thrown to the ground and crying
so that was the first one. The second one was a video that we
viewed as incitement of violence. I can read it to you
it's a little it's a little bit of a transcript but but now it's
time to act on the enemy before they do a false flag. I know
that Justice Department's crippled a bunch of followers
and cowards but there's groups there's grants juries, there's
you called for it it's time politically, economically and
judiciously and legally and criminally to move against these
people. It's got to be done now. Get together the people you
know, aren't traders aren't cowards aren't helping their
frickin Bats hedging their fucking bats like all these
other assholes do and let's go let's do it. So people need to
have their and then there's a bunch of other stuff but at the
end so people need to have their battle rifles ready and
everything ready at their bedsides and you've got to be
ready because the media is so disciplined in their deception.
So
this is okay. Before I continue that clip, let's just go back.
What did we hear? We heard her read a transcript and then she
jumped to the end and said, there's a whole bunch of other
stuff. And then he said this, just replay that.
And then there's a bunch of other stuff but at the end, so
people need to have their battle rifles ready and everything
ready at their bedsides and you've got to be ready because
the media is so disciplined in their deception.
Okay, so is that what Alex Jones actually said? Did he say you
gotta have your Battle Rifles ready? Because the media is
coming let's just double check to make sure I'm not making miss
hearing this
need to have their battle rifles ready and everything ready at
their bedsides and you've got to be ready because the media is so
disciplined in their deception.
Okay, so She acted like she read a quote and that she did say at
a certain point, there's a whole bunch of stuff in the middle
people
it's got to be done now. Get together the people you know,
aren't traders aren't cowards aren't helping their frickin
bats hedging their fucking bets like all these other ask wants
to do and let's go, let's do it. So people need to have their and
then there's a bunch of other stuff, but at the end, so people
need to have their battle rifles ready and everything ready at
their bedsides. And you've got to be ready because the media is
so disciplined in their deception.
Let's listen to what Jones actually said. This is the
middle bit that she skipped over.
But America needs to know that they've got their little
pathetic commie red teams ready. And they've got their targets
picked out. The sheriffs, the judges, the police chiefs, the
Patriots, the veterans, the talk show host everybody. And
everybody's gonna be amazed when they come. When those cowards
come, and it's gonna hit in the middle of the night. And they're
common. And they're common. And they're common. They think they
can really take down America. So people need to have their battle
rifles, everything ready their bedsides and you got to be
ready. Because the media is so disciplined on their deception.
Antifa attacked all these people at the White House, beat up
reporters beat up women, children, no coverage. And
they've got discipline folks. They've got criminal discipline,
because they're a bunch of followers.
So she makes it sound like he she cuts it off at the media,
which he then subsequently goes on to say that, you know,
they're deceptive. But being ready is not about the media.
It's for the red teams who are coming in the middle of the
night, and they're going to come after everybody. But this is not
a call to violence.
It's a call for self defense.
So this is your saying that this is a call to violence against
the media.
That's what it sounded like to us at the time. And there have
been a number of incidents of violence against the media. And
again, I take my responsibility for what happens on the platform
and how that translates off platform very seriously. And
that felt like it was an incitement.
So I call bullshit. There was not at all what that was about
it.
I mean, it's a misrepresentation. She's a liar,
she's a liar, she misread the quote, she skipped the whole
preamble to the so called offensive part. And she didn't
read the end of it, which kind of takes it away from going
after killing the media, which he says incitement to violence
to go after the media. There's been a number of attacks on the
media. Are you kidding me? This is one it's terrible. And fuck
Twitter. I'm sorry. I mean, if that's what you are dead in the
water, Jack Dorsey. I really like you. I like the like
Twitter, but you can't police this, if this is what you're
gonna do. You're gonna go out of business. And, you know, the
dark web, as they said in the show.
Well, that moment is the problem. And if you listen to or
I've heard this voice before this, is that arrogant, no at
all Berkeley type. She's got a degree I have a woman like that.
In a clip coming up. Who is there's a little school called
Hampshire College, which is having to close down because
women like this woman. You know, there's just arrogant little
Torpy woman was if you let's just keep an eye hopefully this
doesn't go off track by my doing this but just listen to this is
the Hampshire College shuttering. And and now their
students are protesting the school can't make any money
because or it's just falling apart. Whatever is happening
there is a function of the students themselves. This is
kind of what happened at Evergreen where they know it all
students instead of coming to learn or are coming to lecture
and just listen to the woman's voice to see if you can hear
this kind of this kind of disgusting tweeting that I mean,
I hear it all right. I'm in the bay, San Francisco Bay area, so
I have to deal with this constantly.
And in Massachusetts, students at Hampshire College have been
staging a week's long Sitting in the president's office
protesting what they fear may be the future shuttering of
Hampshire College. In January, the president of Hampshire
College announced they would seek to merge the school with a
strategic partner, before laying off staff in the following
weeks, and announcing it would not be admitting a new class of
freshmen in the fall. This is a Hampshire College student with
the group HAMP rise up, which has been organizing the
protests.
We're fighting for transparency, better representation and an
educational system that listens to us and actually serves our
best interests. It's really tragic, in the fact that schools
like this are closing down so rapidly. And now that we're
here, in the midst of this movement, I realized how
important education is and how essential it is for these places
to exist.
It's the same wood cut from the same word. I agree. I agree.
Yeah, she wants transparency and she wants to school that listens
to them. Yes. You know, it seems to me that that's a moment in
time where you want to do the listening. But these students
and these people, or then this woman at Twitter, they want to
do all the talking
thing that Yes. And the thing is, is that while they're
talking about bias, and you know, Twitter, saying, well,
we're not This is No, it's all factual, it's about behavior.
She literally showed her bias there in what she heard, without
even listening to all the information. And if you listen
to that, the whole show at a certain point, it's like, well,
you know, it's Rogen and pooler, saying, it's very important that
you let all these voices be heard. Otherwise, it goes to the
dark web. And I'm like, go dark web, we need to win with the
dark web. In fact, I can do this. You know, what is a very
scary little thing that just came out and came out a couple
of weeks ago. dissenter, have you seen this dissenter.com It's
a part of gab. So you know, gab, which is basically the alt right
Twitter, because that's the only deep, everyone who's been D
platformed. From Twitter goes over there. So now they have,
it's a browser extension. If you get it a dissenter.com, we then
used to get it with your gab credentials. And what happens
is, you can create a thread like a you know, like a, like a
Twitter thread on a gab thread around any URL, then it's really
taking off. So people are having entire conversations about one
particular URL, and it comes comes in just like a social
network, but it can be about anything. And I think it's a
genius idea, because that's what a lot of people do. Anyways,
comment on links, and now it's completely decentralized. And I
think this is the kind of thing that will blow Twitter out of
the water. It won't take much. You I agree with your thesis
that these these social networks won't go away until there's
something else to go to. And I see something like dissenter
working.
Could be I'll check it out.
But this is this interview, I think was very important and is
the death knell for Twitter. They are so full of themselves.
And I don't know if if Dorsey is insane, or if that he really
believes that somehow artificial intelligence and machine
learning will be able when his own leader, President Vice
President, whatever she is CEO of trust and safety. Can't even
get this one. Right. And he doesn't hear it either. They're
going to train some machine learning to do this. No way.
Yes, all of its dead in the whites ridiculous. So it's not
going to take much it's going to be one of these one of these
weird outfits.
Again, better isn't people flocked to? Yeah, yeah, same
thing could happen to Facebook, but there's nobody even going
after them.
Well, but you know, Facebook is in so much trouble right now.
People are abandoning it in droves.
It should be smaller.
You saw Zuckerberg. state of state of the face bag union.
Yeah. All about privacy. Yes. We're moving towards a private
moving towards a privacy centric model. Yeah. Sure. It's all
about your privacy. We believe that your conversations with
people should be private between yourself Sure. You know,
Facebook doesn't care what you're saying to someone, they
just care that they know who you're saying it to. So they can
target more people with stuff you like and they like
it's that's what the that was the grand scheme from the
beginning. And the funny thing is I you know, it is somewhat
ironic because many technologists in the early days
of the whole whole revolution, this saying that late 70s. And
throughout the 80s, were advocating for this, oh, we want
to only get ads that we're interested we're interested in
that would be so great. We only want to read about stuff we're
interested in. That would be so great.
Yeah, it turns out that's really bad because that's exactly what
we got. We only got stuff we're interested in turns out to be
crap. Yeah, we got our own bubbles. Like who wants that?
That's turns out that's not a really good idea. Forget about
ads, just the content you get that? Well, you know,
what advertising businesses we should mention, this is always
the advertising business from day one has always been into
targeting. Yep. And they did and the better targeting they do
that more they like it because they can sell, you know,
targeted, a targeted system, a targeted process for more money.
But what
makes me so sad is that the actual workings of the internet
is not taught people have no idea kids are growing up in
school. When I remember evangelizing internet, you know,
how it worked and how these networks connected to each
other. And that Internet Protocol was really all you need
it and now, you've heard three and a half hours of me for
people talking about if you're not on Twitter, you're dead. You
don't exist. But this is not true. No agenda social.com All
of the mastodon type services people are using them they are
moving there there is there will be a critical mass that will
now even think you need them. That's the whole thing is
bullcrap. Just a website cons in the pre.com era in the late 90s.
They were talking about it to an excess. You'd have these guys on
there. Oh, your business you can't even run a business
anymore. Unless you're on Facebook and you're doing all
this stuff on the internet. That's nonsense. It was never
true. I still go to a dry cleaners that is Does that have
any? They have zero footprint on the internet.
But there's one thing that here's the here's the main
issue. I
knew that gas stations I go to
failing on fame is the problem. This is Andy Warhols, 15
minutes. It's not about whether you can have a conversation with
your friends, because you can do that in many places. All IRC has
been around since day one, you can end and kids know it. They
know how to use this. No, it's about fame. It's about your
followers. You know, I was deep platformed from YouTube
advertising in 2008. I think it was and so I can never use
AdSense ever in my life. You know, it's just for boat you do?
Oh, I do remember the big book show. I made an app. And
actually it was the big book. It was a big app show first and it
was it was a video that I shot in portrait mode. And so I would
show how the acts were a lot of work to do that thing. Yeah, and
it was good it was good for a while and I was making pretty
good money couple grand a month because I I'd say hey tap on the
app in the tap on the ad and the app and you'll know and you'll
you'll learn about whatever great product there is and
you'll help this show well that didn't fly them they D platform
me and they actually took away my last month's earnings and you
know I protested goes into big black box never hear anything
again. But I still to this day get emails from YouTube. And
they address me like, hey, creator, your fans love this
video. You know, it's the MTV blooper reel that I put up there
you hit 10,000 views. Your fans love this video. So it's all
about fame. It's all about having an audience how many
followers how many likes? It's fame, fame, fame. Isn't fame one
of the Seven Deadly Sins somehow isn't there something in their
vanity vanity? Vanity would be vanity. So let's just take
vanity then. And that's what it is. Everyone loves to be famous
in
Vanity analysis for years. Yeah, they have your analysis of the
of the of the of the selfie corsi item and that's what oh,
let me take another picture myself and then another, another
another. And then you post a picture. And there are people
and it's always kind of fascinating me there are. There
are some people, men and women who are are just if you go on
any there are things that they do online. It's just pictures of
them. Pictures of them doing anything. It's not like they're
in front of the Mount Rushmore. They're just pictures of them.
Yes. Yes. What is that?
That's what it is madness. It's kids have grown up with fame.
You know the the ultimate job is fame. It's what it is the famous
Kardashians I think they they push it over the edge fame, just
the ultimate.
That is not carousel On the head of John Nam Yeah,
yeah, but I think the Kardashians perfected the selfie
bit. I think they really did. Certainly would fashion. Yeah.
It's, it's it's the end of society.
Yeah, I don't know about that. But it's the end is something
Yeah. Anyway, go dark
web. Dark Web. I mean, we're dark. I mean, would we live with
would we be able to do the show? Would we be able to have people
listening and supporting the work without Twitter? I think
so.
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And it's very, Twitter doesn't really,
really add much to the to the picture. I'm when I send a
newsletter out. I put a bot every other one I'll post on
Twitter. I didn't see no didn't did this one on Twitter. And we
had a very poor turnout. So Twitter's actually, I don't see
that it does any good. Yeah, then I do the the Bat Signal
show on the stream can get an extra 20 3040 people on the
stream, maybe. But I think is much more than that. No, that
means Witter. And to hear that oh, let me tell Okay, then I'll
take an aside here and tell my Twitter story. So when I first
started off on Twitter, I had 10,000 followers. And now I've
got 100,000. And during that early era, you could post
something, say, oh, you should check this out. And you would
get the 10,000 followers because there was active, you know, to
really do stuff, you would get maybe 1000 people to go click on
a link out of the 10. Sounds about right, right. It's kind of
a direct marketing number. And when I just had to do because
straight one on one kind of thing, maybe even more than
1000. Then as it got bigger and bigger. Now I have 100,000
listeners and I would if I do the same thing, same kind of
link with with 10 times more people, the total number of
people that click on the link six, seven.
And maybe that's pretty bad. Your people are dead?
Well, I think the whole platforms dead. Fans, that
anybody is doing anything, I think I've got those same
original people that would have had 1000 people clicking,
they've lost interest? I don't know, I don't know, maybe it's a
scam?
It doesn't mean it has your question. You don't think it has
to do with the fact that people are tired of old car
advertisements.
Those are the links just Oh, okay. Just ask is big time,
maybe you've been the platform, man, maybe your shadow band, who
knows? It could be shadow band, but it's possible. Totally.
Whatever the case, machine learning is kicking in saying
this guy is posting ads, we're not getting any money from it.
They don't know that it's an old ads.
Studebaker can have an ad is a three, it's a three day they're
gonna sell 34 Studebakers out from under us. Whatever the
point is, is that the the impact of Twitter has lessened to such
a degree that you can't get anyone to click on anything
anymore. They don't care. And you also very low numbers, very
low numbers,
I agree with you that the interface is has become an
issue. People want to see the information there, they don't
want to click to find anything. That's that's just that is the
extent of laziness that we've gotten to it's too much to
actually put your thumb on the link and click it and so. But
also, it's been very quiet about the Advertising Scam, which
we've been talking about for 10 years. And this is the fake
traffic, all the bots looking like humans clicking away.
There's been there's been some lawsuits, there's been people
hauled off to court. There's some advertisers who may have
pulled back or aren't advertising on social media
platforms at all, but you really don't see any stories about it.
It's it's like the it's like the Nielsen ratings. You know,
before we had true tracking which tracking has gotten much
better, thank you cable boxes and Roku and all that so you
know the we have the P plus one plus three plus five days to see
who watched five days later. I mean, that stuff is is that's
pretty scientific. But before that. It's just a sample. And he
asked it to statistically that should be right. But it wasn't
always far from it. But no one really should talk about
comScore. The same thing with the attribution of traffic. We
talked about that a couple of weeks ago, where you just you
just buy a stupid cat video site. You know, you buy it, you
do a deal with them and say all their traffic belongs to me. And
then comScore goes Okay, so we'll count that traffic for
you. And the advertiser goes, Wow, wow, hoity toity new site.
You've got some great content with some great numbers. Let me
advertise there. Meanwhile, your ads running on cat videos. Not
that I'm against cat videos. I'm a fan of the cat channel. But as
the channel is the best you just don't hear about this anymore.
So Oh, no, we're writing a big one
to try to keep this scam going as long as you can. There was a
collapse with the.com collapse in the 2000 era
when we figured out that hits doesn't equal visits. That's
what that
was. Yes, it was hits the old hits. That was nonsense, but but
the there was a pullback of advertising in during that law
era when the.com companies were going out of business, right.
Everybody pulled out and and exacerbated the problem. And
even more companies went out of business and it it took five or
six years to get that shake up turned around. That's right. It
just wiped everybody out. And it's gonna happen again.
Well, I for one can't wait to get rid of some of these stupid
I mean, it would be nothing will be better than to see these some
of these social networks just collapse under their own weight.
Because there's a lot of ready to spring into action.
Well, we'll see. I think social net I don't like I'm not a fan
of social networks in the first place. I think they exaggerate
problems. I don't just I'm not seeing the benefit to to society
or individuals, people waste too much time on them. This is just
like the saint with with these smartphones and people having to
put cameras on overpasses to catch people driving, but they
can't spend one minute away from the damn phone.
Man. People are laughing at me with my Nokia Are you but they
can't believe it here. They're very connected. While the
iPhones are pretty much out. People are all buying Samsung's
because they can't afford the iPhone anymore. And the Dutch
price was on introduction particular ROI. Yeah, yeah,
they'd be like them. Stingy,
what about Huawei? Are there any Huawei phones there? I think
that'd be Huawei. FL always dynamite Huawei,
Huawei is paying paying the Dutch government to install the
5g system. They love Huawei here. Of course they do. Now
they got no problem with that same as they don't have, as the
same with the Dutch won't really talk about, you know, remember,
just going back to cloning it for a second. They are the
houses are now being built, built without gas. There's no
gas. So there's no gas for heating, no gas for cooking.
It's all electricity. And that's all because they cannot bring
themselves to use Russian gas. They just can't. Like they're
just like, well, that's the enemy. So we can't use that gas.
So well, don't worry, we're going to use renewables. People
are going to get cold in this country in the future. I
predicted. You know, what do you think electricity is made from?
I mean, isn't the cleanest form of electricity is outside of
nuclear? Isn't that natural gas?
Yeah, yeah. Natural gas is number one. So
they can't use this to the killing themselves?
Yeah, well, why would some, that's another thing. Well, I'm
not you know, this is the this is the veganism concept where
you're right. You're eating for political reasons. I tend to
eat, you know, because I like, you know, certain kinds of food.
I like to cook. I'm not I'm not taking a political stand with
what I eat.
It's always political. No, I work from a
political standing of your own well, being is ridiculous. It's
crazy. From a different fact that you get tucked into it,
which is I mean, I'm less. I mean, it's funny in some ways,
but the fact you be tucked into these things, because it's why
are you politicizing your life like that? It just doesn't make
any sense to me. Well, this is the politics enters your
decision making it. So I'm not going to do that because that's
a right winger that someone had made that cookie, I'm not going
to buy it.
This is why we all wear our invisible no agenda hats here.
Hold on a second. There you go. Let's put your hats on because
you live smarter, more healthy, your amygdala is small. And with
that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the
morning to you the man who put the C in the cat channel, John
C.
Morning, Mr. Adam curry and telegraphy near the water dame's
in the lights out there. We
got a shortlist today.
We got one guy.
This is sad.
It's very sad considering that the newsletter went out,
specifically asking for associate and executive
producers saying there's going to be a slow show because we had
we know half the last show was about the Austin meet up and all
the producers we ended up with and now we get nothing.
Let me ask you a question. Do you think that reading all the
names from the meetup that that that that hurts and people don't
like the show?
It always hurts when we have a lot of people contributing.
That's why was your show? Yeah, that's why we do Yeah, those
guys are doing fine. This is why you don't you know, brag about
how much money you make, or don't make you bitch about it.
But the point is, is that there was a, I said specifically that
this was going to happen. The writers letter, you're right.
And not one person, not one person out of almost 20,000
people to get that newsletter took the offer for either
executive or Associate Executive Producer, none zero nada. This
guy did his own thing. Me and he's not because the numbers
aren't the ones that were offered. This was added a higher
number actually. And so we have one, one loan, I mean, change
the ratios of this thing. So I can actually read this note,
instead of being a shrunken thing on the spreadsheet. Pop
up. This is sort of lupus of the last bits into coma. He came in
at $333. And so He's our guy. He's this executive dog guy he
could have given $201 He'd be the executive producer, sir
Lucas of the law. This is really pathetic. By the way, I should
mention to people out there. I am back from a four week trip to
visit my wife's family in Vietnam. Oh, nice. Now that I'm
back, a little report would be good. It's a nice country to
visit. Now that I'm back, I'm looking forward to catching up
on the best podcasts and universe jingle requests, jobs.
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Did you hear that digital artifact? Well, okay, I've been
the new rig develop this and that. And it's at first I
thought it was a
I've heard stuff, but I've never been thinking about it just to
get
it almost. Yeah, almost. Yeah, it's what it sounds like. It
sounds like Scott is dragging for a second. But I figured out
what it is. I don't know how to fix it just yet. But for some
reason, I have too much running through the USB 3.0 hub. And the
data is being slowed down. But the problem is the surface six
that I have Surface Pro only has one USB port. So I can only
operate with the hub. And I think just between the drive and
this external monitor and everything, that it's it's just
not getting the bits through or something. It's an actual sound
bandwidth,
you may be bandwidth limited, right? You may be stuck at the
lowest possible
ceiling as possible. If this is by the way, an actual glitch.
That is that is the correct usage of an audio glitch is what
you hear. When it does this.
I'm gonna have to start listening for it now. Anyway, so
I want to thanks for Lucas for helping us produce show 1118
Yes. And everybody else. Yeah, you know, what am I going to do?
I mean, we don't even get another donation that we get
down to the $100 level. So that was a huge disappointment. And
but we did get one. This wasn't at least
one Yeah, at least it's just before we move on to the
donation segment, some sad news. Squirrel mail is effectively
being killed off. Watch, yes, this is you know, the cPanel.
cPanel is like every standard kind of Unix install, you know
server has a cPanel. And they've just end which you know, this is
back and of course squirrel mail comes from way back in the days
when webmail first started, but now they're removing it from
cPanel, which really is the death knell since it will no
longer be installed. There'll be no more people jumping on unless
you install it yourself specifically. And the reason is,
I
know the guy who invented squirrel mail, well, he must be
very sad. I'm going to ask him what's going on
within the squirrel males last update was May 30 2013. With
their last release on July 12 2011. In that seven years,
four versions of PHP have reached end of life. We have
worked with others in the community to maintain squirrel
mail. Unfortunately, recent security patches have
significant problems forcing us into a choice. Exclude the
security fix and ship squirrel mail with known security flaws
or ship a secure version with known interface issues or
attempt to fix the problems. Well, they decided to just give
up on it.
Oh, that's terrible.
What are you going to do?
What am I going to do? Yeah,
he's going to keep it easy. Oh
squirrel mail.
It's not secure. There's something wrong with it. It's
not good for you. I
don't notice this. I got plenty of got systems running I've got
I've got monitors going on for both malware and viruses. I'm
not really concerned once in a while you know somebody sucker
me into clicking on something and I get all the alarms go off
and they say we're throwing this page away and get back to you
where you belong.
Well I think I have to put the squirrel mail song at the end of
the show then just as kind of a tribute
yeah tribute I find out what's going on I'll get this I'll get
this
you'll get the skinny from the inventor himself very good. Well
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please go out there and propagate our formula. Our
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is this we go out we hit people in the mouth shut up
so let's go back to your little trip. Yeah. Did you get a plug
in for the show it to the big network?
Dude, they didn't even they didn't even say I was the
inventor of podcasting. I got like nothing. I got nothing.
Nothing slips up men. No, no. No wearing it. No agenda shirt. No.
Yeah, that's classy. That's real classy. Now. I'm not going to do
that. It wasn't about me. It was about lexan his book I was just
there to make it entertaining. But she is the host has promised
that she's going to interview me cuz she did a big special around
the 2016 US elections. She famously had the kind of like a
blow job interview with the Hillary Clinton which a lot of
people hear like now What the hell is that? And so she's going
to do it again for 2020 and she said can I kind of come and
interview said absolutely. So she'll come and interview me for
2020 and then and then I'll just do it in the studio with all
kinds of no agenda signs everywhere
you mean the clue do
know by know by the time by 2020 I hopefully I'll be out of the
clue do and should have my own studio in Cossack hurry
signage up Yeah. I just said wallpaper
signage. I need to I need to skirt for the table. Yeah,
skirts. I'm sure that our producers will whip something up
by the time it's about we gotta we got a little little ways to
go. And by the way, we should probably do a proper meet up in
Amsterdam before then. I know one of these trips I've just got
a pre produce it and get it done because people are antsy. We got
a lot of nights here. I didn't realize we I think we probably
have. Eric was telling me over 100 nights in Holland sounds
like a lot. And didn't actually What does whenever we discuss no
agenda with the radio guys. And this, they had a party, a book
party after the TV show. I must have been about 100 people all
between 60 and 90 years old. And because these guys have all been
on the pirate ships. Sure. They're old and all you know
what they all have. They all got like a young buck. Yes. They all
have their own museum. Hey, man have a flier for Yeah, they all
got their little broadcast museum, you know. They all have
rented some little space. Like, I got a rock and roll Museum.
Okay. Hey, man, come visit my museum have a T shirt for my
museum. Okay, thanks. I didn't know how we came up with that.
Anyway, it is it is true. It's true. Okay, let's see, what else
do we have going on? Well, might as well just play the liar of
the week. And I think this somehow has to do with Michael
Jackson. You know, it's all kind of coming at the same time this
our Kelly interview on CBS. I don't know if you saw Oh, yeah.
You know, I watched it. It was like, guys all worked out,
worked up and yelling at Gail and I thought this thing was
just too much show business and not enough substance. But
he's, well, the only thing I cared about was him freaking
out.
But what, that's what the only part that was good.
But if you're telling the truth, don't you say this is a lie? I
didn't do this. Or do you say or why would I do that? Isn't that
isn't that the tale of all tells?
It's definitely a tell.
So I think the point you're making is and correct me if I'm
wrong, that you have never held anybody against their will.
I don't need to take my word. I will I'm stupid with never held
an arm
right off the bat. He doesn't even say no. We
all have been through in my way, way past to hold somebody let
alone four or five 650 You said? What? How stupid would I be to
do that? I didn't say you guys and it is this camera on me.
Yes, that's stupid. Use your common sense. Don't forget the
past forget how you feel about me. Hate me if you want to love
me if you want to just use your common sense. How stupid would
it be for me? Talk with my crazy passing what I've been through.
Oh, right now I just think I need to be a monster and hold
girls against a wheel change them up in my basement. And and
don't let them eat and don't let them out unless they need to.
Say what?
Too much detail. Exactly,
exactly. And there's more detail
down the street from the uncle. So I'm happy y'all quit plan.
Quit plan. Didn't do this stuff. Is a fight for my life ROBERT
This is great.
This is not about music. I'm trying to have a relationship
with my kids. And I can't do it. Oh.
You don't want to believe it? At this point.
We briefly pause the interview to give Kelly a moment for his
publicist help calm him down.
I hope this camera keep going now we're gonna doesn't even
make sense. Why would I hold all these women? Their mothers and
fathers told me we're gonna destroy your career.
I gotta tell you these interviews like with Jesse
Smollett. And now we get Jesse Smollett and I get our Kelly's
good this is entertaining. Isn't it entertaining? It's like this
new format Yeah, take down the big celeb Great. Yeah. Good old
days you gotta find his Psycho celebs that makes it work. Well,
I think certainly with today's as we were discussing earlier
today's social media which so you're gonna see more of these
these people these celebrities who fry is the bright short
circuit this short circuiting is what's happening in our Kelly,
he's been hiding out with his whatever his harem alleged. I
don't know. Maybe he's not paying attention to what's going
on. Maybe he's all over it. But this is this is a short
circuiting.
Man. Well,
it's also kind of like you go on Gale show. It's like you know,
it's like you in the stockade public hanging. It's the modern
day version. Yeah, modern day version.
was so they're going after Trump in a funny new way. This is a
new one I have to add to the list. Oh, there's actually a
couple new things that are being dead. In fact, they come up in
the conversation here. But it has to be added to the list,
which is that and this is a rewrite. I've seen this before
this was done. And it's going to lead to another we've been
talked about in the newsletter. It's going to lead to another
round of nonsense. This one is this latest one, which began
with I forgot who who started it was at Troy was in the intercept
some some British Middle Easterner. Right, right. Are
there claims that Trump you know, what? What proof? Do we
have that if he gets voted out that he's going to leave?
Oh, yes. You put this in the newsletter. I think you nailed
it with that. You might want to reiterate it literally because
that was good.
Yeah, well, he just apparently Trump's not gonna want to quit.
So if he gets impeached, he's not going to and he's going to
call to arms for everybody to do rebel.
Yes. And, and right after he starts the Trump news network,
then he'll he'll also write a law, the executive order that he
can have a third term.
Yeah, that would be the next in there in the this is what
happened when I first saw this.
Obama had that to the right was saying about my wish. Yeah,
George Bush was going to run for the third term. And Obama is
going to run for a third term. Clinton, maybe maybe not I don't
remember the Clinton one. Exactly. But it's all bull crap.
So then so they get start picking up on it. So yeah, so
not one. You know, this becomes like a theme now. So we have
this theme that Trump's not gonna quit. So let's move it
around. The network's a little bit and let's put it on Chris
Matthews show. Deutsch.
Oh, Donny douche. Donny Deutsch the fool Former advertising
executive I'm correct. That's the same
guy, right? Yeah, yeah, that guy. Yeah. Well, how
did he ever get into this news business? Or what does it what
standing does he have?
He has no standards, but the bishop that he'll come on and do
stuff like this.
Let me get back to Ghana. And you know, Trump over the years,
you're not as buddy or anything, but you know him. What's his
endgame? What's his Gotterdammerung? What is how
does he end up in the bunker? What will he do run for
reelection to protect him from statute limitations hold on to
the pardon power, just trying to get reelected at all costs, to
keep himself out of prison or what what's his endgame? Take it
one step further. And Michael Cohen's final warning in his
testimony. And I've thought this and said this before Donald
Trump, we will not have a peaceful transition Donald
Trump, I believe, whether he's going to be impeached, whether
they're disqualifying him for running for office, even if he
Oh, hold on that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, before we continue
disqualifying for running for office?
I have no idea what that means. That's new. I heard it same way.
You did. It was it was a showstopper. Ha. How does that
work? How do you disqualify him from running for office?
Maybe he lied about his age, he's not old enough.
disqualifying for running for office? Even if he gets elected
out? He will tell his people to take this feature. I know that
sounds extreme. That's who this man is. He there's 30% In this
America, of this country that he believes he owns. And he
actually does own them.
What did he say? He flubbed something 30% of this America,
what is this? 30% on this miracle?
Stop. Yeah, this is the other thing that's gotta go on the
list and the Trump rotation? Trump rotation.com. Everybody.
Yeah, Trump rotation.com. I have heard this so many times, all
out of the blue along with this original, this idea that he's
not going to leave if he's voted out?
No, no, actually, no, no. He said, No, he said something
else. If he's elected out, which is even better.
I think that was just elected out. We're gonna have an
election. fumbling for trying to sound election about who we
don't want out. You. Anyway, so. So this 30% thing, it keeps
coming up. What is this? There's 30% of the public likes Trump.
And that's it. And this really goes back to Brooks on the old
PBS NewsHour, who always at the beginning of the Trump, Ron was
always seeing a 30% ceiling. This is some liberal progressive
notion that there's this 30% of these 30% of the public dummies
that are going to support Trump at whatever, whatever, no matter
what happens, and they keep using this 30% as though you
have 70% leeway to vote somebody else in It's bull crap. But
anyway,
also, you got to be worried when people start talking numbers
like that, like 30% is their list. You can get on to be a
part of this 30%
Nobody gets elected out. He will tell his people to take the
streets. I know that sounds extreme. That's who this man is.
He there's 30% on this America, of this country that he believes
he owns. And he actually does own them. The normal things we
see the peaceful transition. I believe Donald Trump is not
beyond starting a civil war. Chris. I've known this man for
20 years. And if you watch every one of his plays, he tees off
what he's going to do. I think we are really headed for a very
ugly time in American history. I'm sad to say that well you
know, I'm sorry. Thank you so much US Congressman Jackie
Speier as always thank you very much.
Got Shut up pretty quick. Sad as that is thank you so much.
Goodbye.
Now you had a heartbreak was a really rousting him he was glad
to hear this stuff there. I mean, if you listen to the whole
beginning of that we're Chris is going on about well, if he
doesn't go to jail, he's always talking about jail. Jail. Yeah,
okay. Well, yeah, no, there's
a diluted I've heard a lot of this like, you know, he'll be
he'll be ineligible because there'll be in jail and I was
one of those. Meanwhile, there's an interesting bill to fix our
broken election system. It's HR one. This right the first from
the house. You may also call this the for the people act of
2019. And yes, the idea is we want with specifically when it
comes to campaign finance, we want to level the playing field.
And one of our producers, sir How now brown cow was at the
committee hearing so I'm not sure what Sir How now brown cow
does but I don't think you can just be at the committee
hearing. As a public member I may be wrong but he was there.
And here's what you can while he was there, then for three ice as
I was just spent three hours in the rules committee hearing on
HR one the for the people act. After hearing everything. I'm
convinced media elements must have had a hand in this bill and
likely paid outside groups that wrote it. At the core of the
bill is a six to one match on any donation under $200. In
other words, if you donate $199 to a candidate, the federal
government will match that donation with $1,194. You with
me? Yeah. Yeah. So because in this bill, yes, it's in this
bill. And I'll just say it again, and then I'll tell you
what's wrong with it, according to our producer. So get a six to
one match on any donation under $200. We've heard about this
before the end of the year, we should even that up and make it
more fair, so everyone can get some money, not just the rich
people. So again, if you donate under $200 $109 to any
candidate, the federal government will match the
donation with $1,194. Here's the kicker. It's a per donation
match. So if you donate five times, you split your $1,000
into five separate $199 donations, that will grant the
candidate a total of $5,970. So it really it turns a million
bucks, which could be from just 1000 people into 5 million. Now,
sir, How
now brown Kosis scam waiting to happen?
Well, sir, How now brown cow. I think it was an invisible no
agenda hat on there. And the committee meeting he says, I
think this is benefiting the people who sell ads.
Course.
Someone figured it
out immediately. Not gonna mention this in a million years.
How can we get it factor six on our ad buys? Well, there you go
people. That is why it still has to pass. It's got a lot. It's
got road to go. But I can see I can see this getting somewhere.
Let's see if people figure out this sixth time match scam or
big scam. Big scam. You
won't read about that in the New York Times because it's like
money in their pockets. They're not going to talk about it.
Yeah, you
probably won't hear and unseen by the way. CNN International.
Wow, that is far superior to the crap we have to watch in the US.
It truly is. Yeah, it's much more do you have GFC and an
international on your system? Do you? Are you able to get down?
I used to but I don't anymore. It's really good.
Yeah. At least at least it's diverse. It's not just the same
plan tank. Turns out there's other things going on in the
world such as the Geneva Auto Show, or do you want to stick
with Trump?
No, you can go back to Trump. I mean, I just wanted to add that
one piece but another Trump stuff. But what about the auto
show?
Well, the Geneva Auto Show is on and they have two clips. The day
I guess this is kind of an interesting angle as the
reporting has been about you know, it's always the trend when
you do a big Auto Show. I actually know a guy who is at
the Auto Show. He has the flying car. It's the I forget what it's
called. It's a It's basically an auto gyro and a motorcycle.
slapped together and you're all that flying car but
okay. Yeah, it is. It is a flying car. When you see it.
It's the V pal I
think is what it's called. Or the PAL V and I put the kids in
the back seat.
Yeah, you have a back seat. It's the it's the it's the Powell v.
And it is you can look at it, pal dash v.com And they even
bill it as the world's first flying car. It actually works.
It's an auto gyro that you can drive around. And it's you know,
it folds up all of its, its its blades and everything. And it's
relatively inexpensive and it's certified it's good to go. So
it's already flying. But no mention of any flying cars
whatsoever. No. But first, let's talk about Brexit, we've had
to assume a no deal Brexit we've prepared for a no deal Brexit
and we can cope with a no deal Brexit on tariffs into the EU.
Our assumption is that we'll have to pass the net price on to
the customer. But obviously the pound will crash. So net net,
hopefully not so much. We might lose a little bit of market
share in the EU will pick that up more than pick that up in the
United Kingdom because our competitors are coming from
Europe and will have tariffs in the opposite direction. So
terrorists are not worried about that yet worry has always been
one of supply chain getting the parts through customs. And
obviously, my board of directors has signed off a 30 million
pound contingency we were using as we need to we've increased
the number of stillages We've increased the inventory. We're
ready and we have to be ready because I'm building cars now
that will leave the factory in April and May post whatever Have
a Brexit looks like so you know that's all I can say really is
we're ready I thought
that was very encouraging. Now these days they seem to have
their shit together and it's okay you know we're ready for it
we're not too worried about the tariffs yeah some custom stuff
we'll have to deal with because a lot of fear mongering for the
amount of ease at this I think this was the BMW guy but the big
winner this year at the show you can already guess what it is. I
hope but well what what category what category of vehicle is the
star?
Oh, it's gotta be something to do with climate change battery
cars, battery cars, everyone's got a battery car as an
atmosphere of change here at the Geneva Motor Show 2019 as brands
both old and new shift away from fossil fuels and towards an
electrified future. The electric pulse races from the fastest to
the slowest cars one of the fastest is from new brand
automobili Pininfarina which has
nearly 2000 horsepower. The thing closest to that I've
driven this probably in f1 car was nearly 900 horsepower and
yeah, this car will have more than double.
And a Citroen celebrates its centenary. It's showing off the
slowest car at the show the me one concept.
This is pretty cool. It looks like a cardboard box with
wheels.
You can call it a vehicle we call it an object of force. It's
not a vehicle
we call it an object. It's really really you should be
against the law to call this thing a vehicle the slowest
car at the show the me one concept
we don't call it a vehicle we call it an object for urban
areas. So big cities, it's anybody can drive it you don't
need a driving license, it's only 2.5 meters long. Maximum
speed 45 kilometres autonomy 100 kilometres. So it's obviously a
concept but we're just testing to see where it's going to go.
There are pure electric cars here but also plenty of hybrid
electric that's to say they have a petrol engine on board like
this BMW 530 E, but also an electric motor, and you plug it
in right there.
The use case of plug in hybrids is actually very suitable to
Europe. People who want to drive shorter distances for example
with zero local emissions they can do that in full electric
mode for example in cities and then have the ease of mind to be
able to do longer distances without having to recharge
supported by petrol engines.
Driving the electrical surge across the car industry are the
tough new EU emission standards coming into force next year.
Jeremy works at the Geneva International Motor Show for
your use.
So this is this is indeed the trend and I I've heard a lot of
people talk about their hybrids and they all kind of say the
marketing is working they all say the same thing. Well, when
I'm driving around my own city my own town I want to be
electric I want to keep it clean and then when I get on the
highway then I can you know blow it wide open and use the news
the petrol part of the car so it's the marketing is keep your
keep your hometown clean
this is reasonable approach
it's working it's working they got him here now all kinds I
see. Mercedes BMW is everyone's driving him
Yeah, you gotta keep charging
him but the flying car is off the radar. Yeah,
of course. You know what the flying car we went electric car
that doesn't really go very far. So UK keep the public
so you can't escape. That's the escape no escape. There's no
escape and your battery vehicle none
All right, well, couples the other things are going on that
might be worth discussing unless you want to take a break.
No, we already know we took a break I'll take a break if you
want but the show will be over
take a listen to them. What's going on? The anti Israel stuff
is really cropping up all over the place. I think it's part of
some sort of a kind of I think it's a trend. I think it's
somebody I think somebody's behind it because it's too much
this has to do with Omar on the start with her. She's like
they've given her biggest some guys have whispered in her ear
to like keep keep up keep keeping up. This is doing Oh,
this is a this is Omar the the freshman Yeah, the
freshman Congresswoman who's hates Israel hates Jews that
just summarize. Oh, let's play this Omar stuff. CBS
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters Tuesday resolution.
Oh, I'm sorry. My mistake. Yes, here it is. This is the one I'm
in.
I knew what intolerance looks like.
The latest comment to land Omar in hot water was this one she
made at a DC bookstore slamming congressional support Israel
influence
in this country that says it is okay for people to push for
allegiance to a foreign country.
In response her own party draft did a four page resolution
rejecting anti semitism without mentioning Omar by name? It says
her comment suggests that Jews cannot be patriotic Americans
and trusted neighbors. Democrat Josh got Heimer
as someone who's Jewish, the idea that you would question my
loyalty to the country has a lawmaker because of my religion
is obviously offensive and deep and deeply hurtful.
The President called it a dark day for Israel and GOP leaders
urged the Democrats to go further.
Nancy Pelosi has to remove her from the foreign affairs
committee. Speaker Pelosi shares the cover of this month's
Rolling Stone with Omar who is the nation's first Muslim
Congresswoman. But Pelosi also reprimanded Omar last month for
a tweet about a Jewish lobbying group and money posted. Omar
says she's being held to a double standard. Just last week,
a poster was erected in the West Virginia State Capitol linking
her with 911.
We get to be called the names and we get to be labeled as
hateful. Looks like.
That argument has clearly resonated with some tonight
Democrats say they're going to be reworking this anti semitism
resolution to include anti Muslim bias as well and they say
the vote Jeff will likely get pushed off to Thursday.
Let's talk about this for six different Elan. But
before we talked about you want to play the other one too. While
we're at it. They went from Democracy Now.
That's about the resolution. Yeah, let's play that
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters Tuesday a resolution
condemning anti semitism will now also condemn anti Muslim
bias. The resolution is seen as a direct rebuke of recent
comments by Minnesota Congress member Ilhan Omar questioning
the US relationship with Israel even though the draft resolution
does not explicitly name the freshman Congress member. The
resolution was announced after comments by Omar at an event
last week in which he called out the, quote, political influence
in this country that says it's okay for people to push for
allegiance to a foreign country referring to Israel.
All right. So first an observation, the anti semitism I
mean, and it may there may be truly an an uptick and increase
in anti semitism is all over Europe as well. It almost feels
like the world is we're devolving into chaos. And the
people who are in responsible for it. hate the Jews. They're
blaming the Jews. I see that in the Netherlands. I see it in
France. I see it in Germany, actually all over the EU. I'm
reading it in the press. A lot of this started with the BDS
movement. I believe the boycott, divest and what's the US? I
forget Yes, sanction, sanction, sanction, Boycott Divestment
Sanction it should the Obama administration spent a lot of
time promoting the plight of the Palestinians. But then there's
this other percentage thing that's going around and although
the percentages are correct, this is I think this is where
the problem stem from four Oh Ilan is 3% of the US population
is Jewish identifies as Jewish as 60% of the US Congress is
Jewish. These are rough numbers so don't hold me to it. And this
is where the allegiance comes from. There's always been you
know rumors that you know, all these senators have dual
passports which I have never seen any evidence for. Believe
that I don't believe it either. That may be true but I've just
never seen it and I'm but I have heard this before. So it's it's
I don't know exactly why this happens but it for sure. The
talk about it is taking place.
Well, they're not going to let whoever they are, are not going
to let Omar let up they're going to have her as she she's like to
throw in her to the wolves and see what happens. I want to play
one more clip. This is another one. About the same topic this
the UK Liberal Party anti Israel demands
in Britain Labour Party and opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn
is renewing calls for the UK to stop selling arms to Israel in
light of the recent UN inquiry that found that Israel may have
committed war crimes and crimes against humanity and their
response to protesters in Gaza since the start of the great
march of return last March demonstrations. The report says
that Israeli forces targeted unarmed protesters in Gaza with
lethal force including children, journalists and the disabled and
that they killed 189 Palestinians almost all of them
with live ammunition. The UK government must unequivocally
condemn the killings and freeze arm sales to it his real labor
leader Corbyn tweeted after the report was published, the Labour
Party which is not currently in power passed a motion last year
calling for an embargo on arms sales to Israel.
Israel makes their own arms as far as I know, I mean they do
buy ours but they
come on we got we sold them the Iron Dome, we give them money to
buy stuff come on stuff like that connector domes.
Also offensive product. I'm not going to stop sales of that.
Let's add a let's add a another data point is Trump moving the
embassy? This didn't help.
Yes, that got everybody all bent out of shape. A few other
countries have suggested doing it too.
Well, a couple of presidents have suggested doing it, but
they never did. And I don't know why I
suggested doing it. But they never did. Trump did it. Yeah,
so a lot of this always been suggested. Hold
on, but he did. Well, let's stick with that for a second. Is
it perhaps possible that this is also an anti Trump thing?
Well, we can assume that a lot of these things are anti Trump
things. Maybe Maybe maybe the whole thing and we all be anti
Trump is so sick, man. These guys are desperate. Never seen
anything like it. Yeah, they had a they had a Michael Savage who
has decided one of the major right wing talkers, has decided
to change everything he's done his whole life. He's going to
shorter format. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm reminded of Conan
O'Brien experiments with the people or six doing experiments.
You go into a shorter format, it's going to split the time
with Ben Shapiro who's has his own show. No, no, no,
this is this is this is not Michael Savage making a
decision. This is Michael Savage being worked out. The new Well,
I
think there's some truth to that. But Michael Savage has
become a podcaster. In the meantime, thinking that that's
his exit strategy.
Good luck. Good luck.
I think he could actually do well as a as a podcaster.
Because I've seen some of the stuff that he's doing as the
podcaster is way is is just really more entertaining than
anything he does on the radio and what
does he What does he have the we don't have the money? Sorry, I
was gonna say, All right, so successful, but not financially
successful. That makes sense.
I don't know what's financially successful would mean to him at
this point. I don't think he cares. Because he, he's really
he's more of a I think he's an egomaniac, but I think he just
likes being able to just say what he feels like without
anybody in or interrupting or telling him not to do it or or
stations dropping him like W ABC did he that really excited when
he went W ABC dropped him or said they would I think they did
drop him. He that's when he started the podcast ideas is
That's it. I've had him doing podcasting. And because I you
know, I can't be held. I can't be held hostage by these radio
stations, right? But he had this guest on who just wrote a book.
And there's a kind of an Occam's Razor thing in here that he's
trying to get the guests to tell him Ah, why they they hate Trump
so much because in this guy wrote a book about the case
recalled, I think it's called a case for Trump showing all the
things that he's actually done, the made promises that he kept
and things along those lines. And then the guy this comes out,
this is the weird Michael Savage clip.
Well, you certainly use them with Donald Trump, that's for
sure.
And he's using them without him. The whole organization is
corrupted. Using them against Trump also, yes.
I believe that this is not the guy wrote the book. This is
maybe it is, but this guy was related to the mob. And he uses
on to talk about how the mob has changed. And anyway, play it
again. But I'm not certain of this guy's pedigree. While he
certainly used them with Donald Trump, that's for sure.
And he's using them without him. The whole organization is
corrupted. Using them against Trump also, yes, that's a shame.
It's a shame.
Why did they hate Why do you think knowing powerful men your
whole life? Why do you think they hate Trump so much? What
has he really done that invokes their wrath so much?
As a businessman they these people are politicians they
don't want to see a businessman succeed. It goes against their
the their beliefs,
a businessman from the outside. In other words,
on the outside, he's a businessman, so they don't want
to see a businessman over politician to succeed and make
America great greater than they did. That's the
I don't think that's that weird. That makes sense.
It's actually kind of a knock comes razor thing. It's like
hello Trump is not a politician. He didn't even come into the
political system. That's the whole business matter. Even
though Michael Savage missed it missed the he missed it as
usual. He says, Oh, he's an outsider. No, no, it's not that
he's an outsider. Because if you remember, and I remember this
was I witnessed this forever. This constant harping,
especially by the Republicans that we need. businessman, yeah.
Oh, yeah, we need a businessman. But then we always have, like
the politician, and they knew oh, we need a businessman
because they'll change things. And then there was the counter,
I was No, no, no, no, the businessman doesn't know how
things work. And government government's different
government needs politicians, and these people didn't know how
to work a governmental system. And then did you have that back
and forth argument, if the whole thing just boils down, as this
guy thinks, to just to hate the Trump hate and the whole machine
is because he's a businessman proving the old theory correct,
that a businessman can run, you know, government operations. You
know, maybe eventually get the Pentagon audited. That this is
simplicity of that is just kind of like takes took me back a
bit. Because it's possible. That's all it is.
Well remember when or recall when one when he first came onto
the scene, and when he first looked like he was really going
to elected? It, just look at all the pictures. I mean, every
single politician, every politico in the United States is
somewhere McGinn on camera with Trump at some party, because
he's one of those guys. I've been to these parties. I've been
to parties where Trump was there. It's the same idea. The
all that happens is they put up with him with his boorish
behavior and his his golden life. Because he contributes to
their campaigns. He's got a lot of money. He has lots of say he
has some influence, and they just put up with them, but they
all just like they're that guy's a dick. He's a douche. What a
moron what a shithead. But then all of a sudden he connected. He
becomes president. Yeah, that was not that's not what we
invited you to the party. Donald. You're not supposed to
like get into our lane here. Stay out. Yeah. So it's just in
your lane, bro. It's the arrogance of the political
class. And this may never happen again in our lives. I'm happy
we're witnessing it. We may not have a life after this. You
never know. Just about Ben Shapiro. So Savage is going from
radio to podcast Shapiro, who is a Hollywood creation. Hobbit has
had a Hollywood agent. They taught him how to dress. I don't
know who taught him how to dress but the dressing differently
than whatever he was wearing before. Now he's moving in from
podcasts into the mainstream. Then he's he's got backing he's
got real money behind him. It's not just his little ads that are
running here's something he said the other day had no
agenda. Facts. That's apples not bananas fat.
There you go. That's Ben Shapiro.
Well, there's another one that's that's got to be washed. I think
this is a piece of crap because I've been listening to it play
the podcast update.
Oh. Oh, good podcast news.
New Gingrich, former Speaker of the House and a new podcast host
called a newts world.
Yo, he should join luminary. Did you read about luminary?
Maybe we get
ready. Here is pod show all over again. With big stars and Paid
Subscriptions luminary aims to be the Netflix of podcasts. Oh,
yeah. So work. So this is a 40 exclusive shows. This company
luminary has lined up they
was a little different than gimlet. We should just make a
list of all these networks.
The offerings come from podcast startup called luminary that has
emerged from stealth mode to unveiled stealth mode, stealth
mode, stealth mode. Here we go here we're in. They've emerged
from stealth mode to unveil nearly $100 million in funding.
Now, here's a little difference with a subscription based
business model that it hopes that that will hopes will push
the medium into a new phase of growth. And here's the quote we
this is from the New York Times, we want to become synonymous
with podcasting. In the same way Netflix has become synonymous
with streaming. By the way, I don't think next Netflix is
synonymous with streaming at all. This is Matt sacks
luminaries co founder and chief executive. I know how ambitious
that sounds. We think it can be done and with some of the top
creators in the space they all On agree, creators in the space
on creators, I gotta write this down. If someone says what are
you I'm a creator in the space.
Space.
Okay, that's the opening of the show. That's good. So, the idea
is he's going to charge $8 a month for subscribers to gain
access to luminaries lineup. And for $6 a year for creators,
luminary is offering large upfront payment guarantees and
exchange this we did this in exchange for exclusive rights to
distribute their work reducing the risk of a concept and
hopefully encouraging greater creativity and higher production
values.
Yeah, this is pachow all over again, and it will not work as
have any sense of history. No,
you know, the New York Times that could have called me for
for, for an opposing opinion. We called the Bob falda
No, they didn't call you you're not on the Rolodex.
So So and this is very different when you're talking to
some of these shows that you may keep reading this is good stuff.
I mean, I very enjoys enjoy yours cynical reading.
I didn't know you were interested in that. Okay. Some
of the shows paddy lapu LuPone. As a bebop singing junkie none
in John Cameron Mitchell's musical follow up to Hedwig and
the Angry Inch. A new show from Lena Dunham called the C word.
Bah bah bah, bah, bah, bah. Are they putting Broadway shows on
the podcast? Yeah, this
is a musical follow up to Hedwig and the Angry Inch. Yeah, see if
there's anything well, here they say here
at Isla poan by the way is the most of all the Broadway
actresses, especially older ones, the most Trump hating
woman. I think she's beyond Barbra Streisand.
Wow, that's saying some shit is a new show from Lana Don Lena
Dunham called the C word. And a series from Conan O'Brien.
Malcolm Gladwell, Trevor Noah, they got the big names John,
that bringing in a bit younger.
Malcolm Gladwell has his own podcast, we're just moving it
over to this system. Is that Yeah,
I think so. Yeah. So So these people are giving. It's like,
it's like moving to Sirius XM. Now, you will be relevant to a
very small amount of people. And his discovery just becomes an
issue.
Too many people too many shows too many channels. And also with
discovery as a huge part of the real problem with podcasting is
you can't you have to develop an audience because you can't get
discovered. Yeah, and it's not you look at all the top 20
podcasts you look, I mean, every magazine does these. It's nice.
It would be nice if we were either way, we're never on him.
Never, never on him. And so they have the list. And I've looked
at those lists, and I've never visited any of those podcasts.
Now, once in a while, this might be habits and I listen to a
podcast or two. But I'll go to like I see these new networks.
There's a bunch of them gimlet, for example out there, and
they're gonna move over there. And I look at all these
different podcasts about this and that and then I'll play a
part of one and I started and it's just always dull. And I
just give up on him. So I so discovery of the good podcasts
that's in there. I mean, I think the your buddy down there,
Benjamin a five by five. Yeah, no, he said, good. I like his
podcast when he talks about podcasting. It's one of the best
there is so so. So podcast, so you're hitting
upon it. I mean, pod you cannot equate podcast to television
shows you cannot equate a podcast to to a movie you get on
Netflix. Excuse me. It it is you're joining a community
because that's podcast. Yeah, you may have a news podcast like
the daily or pod save the privilege. But that's going to
be a community of like minded political thinking, which can be
quite large, but it's a community. Those people are
never going to go and find anything else that doesn't
interest them. Yes. A lineup of stuff doesn't work. You will
hear this word of mouth. We've seen this growth we grow year
over year we grow about what John 8% Maybe just Navy
that's a reasonable number about 8%. Eight to 10. Man a good
year. Yeah. And that includes that that's that's a net because
we lose. We lose people of course, we lose a lot of people.
Right and that's not the growth doesn't come from people seeing
seeing an ad or even in a lineup although I will say our ever
changing artwork does make people curious and it does have
it's more a form of advertising. It's more an alert message. NISM
I think it's like, oh, there's something new that I see that
you already subscribe to. Also, you know, the idea of
subscribing doesn't really matter anymore. As long as it
link, a link, someone can click on and listen to, but it's going
to be a community. And then you have to know how to build one.
It's not like a blog, it's not something that people can get a
quick hit of. Like, you don't get a quick hit of the no agenda
show. You're either in it, you're interested, it's like a
comic, like talk about comic books, there's going to be an
audience. And if you follow our value for value model, you'll be
able to sustain yourself. And I think certainly a comic book
podcast could do that. But it makes no sense from us all. I'm
going to promote the comic book podcast, there'll be people who
will listen. But they're going to find it through a community,
they already belong to a night and they're going to hear it
from me, it's just not the same is being treated as music by
Samia, you'd like that you'd like this. None of that works.
We've seen it not work consistently. For 15 years,
we've seen the monetization ideas of a network of shows not
work for 15 years. You cannot monetize
VCs. This is a matter of the VC soak. And VCs that don't want to
talk to anybody who knows what they're talking about. Just
throw money at these sorts of things, because they got a good
sales pitch. And they you know, they use all media examples to
try to promote it. It does. No, you're right. It's just it's
going to be and by the way, we'll make out and that's about
it. By the
way, how well is Netflix doing really, you know, they have a
huge issue. They have to raise the price. And Wall Street knows
this. They are the darlings for sure. They came out of nowhere
and shot up like crazy. But now, now it's plateauing. Now, just
like the iPhones and the smartphones, everyone has some
stuff, you know, do we need more? Do I need another service,
you know, might have to have ADD Amazon, people only have so much
money. And Netflix is not going to be able to sustain itself.
What always unless they really somehow figure out how they can
make enough money on their own productions, which is incredibly
expensive. Amazon's all
loss leader, and that's totally risky.
So they whenever you're in this type of situation, you know that
your supply chain, which is Hollywood, which you make some
of they're going to raise their prices. So
it just won't only so much talent, what I mean?
Well, they're intermediaries, it's the into being an
intermediary is very hard to do the art the arbitrage to make
the money between what you owe on royalties and what you can
bring in. When it's advertising. The big like, like every
everyone else is doing so for this guy. The problem is the
advertisers are God and they tell you what you can and can't
say and where they do or do not want their ad placed. When you
do a subscription that you just can't charge people enough
money. You can't do this on a network level anymore. It's just
not they haven't figured it out yet. They have to crash and
burn.
They will. How's gimlet doing?
Well, gimlet has its own issue because people are very worried
that their favorite shows or you'll not have to go to
Spotify. And of course gimlet is saying oh, don't worry about
that. We will never do that. Never. No, of course, it's, I
can guarantee you they're gonna have to put a couple of their
big shows behind behind the paywall, or figure out different
ways, you know, with I guess, with the advertising model, they
already they're saying, well, newer shows won't be freely
available. Now.
Freely available, they're not going to get any listeners.
It's, it's, it's That's why John and I, over time, it wasn't like
we wrote it on a on a whiteboard. But we're agile
enough. And we cared enough to figure out what the community
was capable of doing and how to grow it. We came up with a value
for value concept. It's 11 years. We're still here, but
we're not a network of shows. We're a network of producers. It
was so such a nice ending and then I hit the wrong button.
Yeah, you do that?
Yeah, that's why we're not slick. I'm not gimlet, you know.
I'm gonna show my agenda. Imagine all the people who could
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Facebook plays a huge role in siloing, the audience for news
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Why does never, there's never anyone who says, Do you know you
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I wondered that myself. In fact, I tried to get an interview with
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She's got a lot age. She's got a lot on her table. Maybe wouldn't
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I'd love to talk to him. Funny.
Wow, kind of denied. Did you but did you did you say that? This
is not just any podcast. It's the best podcast in the
universe.
I play golf every I do everything I can as always,
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Abramson interview for this podcast.
No, and why is that because I would like to work with this
publicist for a while before Okay, that's too bad. The screws
to her.
Okay. All right, too bad. I understand. Makes sense. Well,
I'll tell you this. There is a here's to re interview I'd like
to get a hold do and if you find a way to push this one, he had
this better. Bill Shatner Ah, I just want to push me to get do
an interview. Do it with William Shatner. He's on Twitter. He's
serious. There's big geezers amenable to being pounded I
think but he's got a he's got a frontman I've dealt with this
guy before is the is the gatekeeper? I can't remember
no I knew two guys who could make one call and get him for
you. The problem is one is oh yeah one is dead the other one's
in jail but those two either one of those guys made the call so
who's the front guy? Oh, well have the producers swamped
he's right you're gonna have to find some bypasses you got to
get around these front because the front guys are no good. They
tend to be just gatekeepers. Now not gonna happen. You're not
gonna do any bright. You've tried.
You've tried. You've tried as a podcast or you've tried to get
to Bill Shatner. Yeah.
Oh absolutely.
And you're on first name basis bill like Bob Muller but yet you
can't get them to come on the show.
Bill to No, no, I can't I can't get a hold of him because you
got he's got this
front gatekeeper. Okay. Bill is also in his 80s I think now,
isn't it?
Yeah, but he's still pretty lively. Be a great interviewer
no kidding maybe. Ray terrible, great for me 90 But he is he he
is himself an interviewer and he prides himself as being good at
it. So might be fun.
Okay, what do I have here? Yes, I have oh, this was
a way I should point this out. People are always you guys
should do more interviews, do successful interviewers. And
there's plenty of them out there. They're not successful
because of their style or whether they're famous or it's
because they all have with almost no exceptions. Fabulous
Booker's. Yes. Who have big giant Rolodex,
yes. Also known as the address book these days. Well, Rolodex
is somewhat outdated, but yes,
it does what it's called now and yeah, that Booker's and we have
no Booker's. And so, you know, if there's any Booker's out
there that want to help us, that'd be great, but I don't
think we have any Booker's that listen to the show. We do have
pretty good Booker's silicon spin for a while
we do have literary agents we have that.
Literary agents are okay, but you most authors aren't that
interesting to speak with. Right? To be honest about it.
Yeah.
Well, you know, 111 thing to do is, you know, you could finish a
book and then go on all kinds of other shows and get interviewed
and, you know, make the show better that way. Because you'd
be the guy that we're going every pot
work, I can't hear you. All right.
How about a Venezuela update, John?
Yeah. How about a Venezuela update?
We're gonna begin tonight with the very latest out of that, as
well as the US continues to try and push forward seemingly
appointed President Juan guaido, while at the same time trying to
take down the Maduro regime. The plan, however, seems to be
hitting roadblocks, both from a from an operational perspective
as well as from a PR perspective, as the State
Department takes issue with reporters for not writing the
Venezuela story, the way that they want it to be told. That's
verbatim by the way we're going to show you. We have several
reports tonight, both on Venezuela and on Elliott Abrams.
And we're going to begin with RT correspondent Dan Cohen.
Sanctions have been called the silver bullet of the American
national security arsenal, and will they failed to topple
Nicolas Maduro so far? Now the Trump administration is
threatening to level sanctions against international banks just
for doing business in Venezuela. And a statement released
Wednesday morning, National Security Adviser John Bolton
said, quote, The United States is putting foreign financial
institutions on notice that they will face sanctions for being
involved in facilitating illegitimate transactions that
benefit Nicolas Maduro and his corrupt network. This transition
what many call an outright coup d'etat hasn't gone as Washington
envisioned, but the State Department wants journalists to
call Juan guaido The interim president anyway.
Now I wish I knew a little bit more about these financial
sanctions because it's not really reported in any detail
because um, you know, this is clearly all sanctions hurt
people it is a form of warfare. And yes
this style of said from I understand by the way, I want to
mention something that is preface to this clip and the
next one. This is our tea, which I'm going to for these clips
because our tea Russians on the side of Maduro Yes. So this is
going to be a skewed report that I think you're going to get more
information from knowing it's a skewed report, right, you're
gonna get from the mainstream. Oh, there was For sure standing
is that these are the are these targeted sanctions where you
find some rich guy was like loaded, made a lot of money out
of the regime and he's got bank accounts and in New York and you
know and yeah so
yeah so they seize his assets basically
the Russian oligarchs Yeah, same same thing.
It's a great system. We're very good at Bitcoin. We're the best
go Bitcoin. Okay. Yeah, we know it will break up this report. I
have a report from your own news, which has a different
slant on it. But as far as I can tell, this guaido has zero
power.
Daniel Karina had only been in his job for a year. Now. He's
been told to quit Germany's Embassy in Caracas. The sanction
came after he joined a group of diplomats that welcomed self
proclaimed leader Juan guaido. On his return to Venezuela on
Monday. guaido condemned the expulsion when he addressed
Venezuela's opposition controlled National Assembly.
They are threatening an important European country,
which is helping Venezuela in a humanitarian way. It's important
that the people of Venezuela know that not only are they
blocking the burning, they're also verbally threatening
whoever is helping Venezuela.
Germany has joined most Western nations in recognizing guaido as
Venezuela's legitimate head of state, but President Nicolas
Maduro is government accuses Karina of interfering in the
country's foreign affairs. A statement from Maduro is foreign
ministry said Venezuela would not accept a foreign diplomat
acting in clear alignment with the conspiracy agenda of
extremist sectors of the Venezuelan opposition.
Sounds like guaido has no power where we're just kicking anybody
out they want.
Well, this is getting ridiculous. But let's play part
two of this RT report.
We have noticed in news coverage that some outlets are
incorrectly referring to Juan guaido as the opposition leader
or the self proclaimed president. Neither is correct to
refer to it one guy knows anything. When interim president
falls into the narrative of a dictator.
Don't tell that to the White House, which has dropped the
interim tag altogether. And now calls Juan guaido, the
legitimate president of Venezuela, but journalists
aren't following the State Department's orders.
You're complaining because us outlets are calling him by a
title that you don't think that
he not complaining? Pointing out just trying to correct technical
it sounds like
a complaint to me. And that seems pretty weak sauce. I don't
understand what your what what your problem was. I mean,
he is he's the he's the interim president. Well, and we don't
want to consider
him to be the interim president and as you say, 50 other
countries outside of recognize him as the interim president.
But there are more than 190 members of the United Nations.
So your 50 countries is not even close to
what a AP journalist Matt Lee said is true. There are 195
countries. Last I checked, 50 is a lot less than half of 195. But
Senator Marco Rubio is taking the pressure campaign to another
level. Firstly, chastise the Wall Street Journal and
Washington Post, not exactly staunch critics of US foreign
policy for using the terms opposition leader and self
declared interim president to describe guaido. Then Rubio
pondered if CNN is conspiring with Moscow to undermine guaido
There's no telling what the US will do next, or who it might
sanction, perhaps who will force CNN and the Wall Street Journal
to register as foreign agents just like this network.
Okay. Yeah. To our key dig at the end. Well, first of all,
yeah, thanks for bringing Matt Lee back to the show. That's
great. Yeah. What do you say? Well, that's weak sauce. You
don't matter? Yeah. Oh, nice. I got to start paying attention to
Matt now that he's he was on a lot of planes. He was always
flying around. It wasn't at the press briefings that much.
Yeah, it looks like he's back on track. Well, that's good. That's
good. One last clip, which is Abrams and genocide and
Venezuela, which is also from RT Elliott Abrams, the
Trump administration Special Envoy to Venezuela is coming
under fire by a group of both genocide survivors, as well as
family members of victims in World War Two is Holocaust and
genocides in Latin America during the 19th century. Now,
this has a lot to do with where I'm standing. Right now. I'm at
the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, and this group is
demanding that Abrams be removed from the museum's Committee on
Conscience, of which Abrams has been a member since 2009. In a
letter to the US Holocaust Memorial Council, they claim
that Abrams is a quote proven supporter of some of the world's
most nefarious perpetrators of genocide and mass murderers for
nearly 40 years. The family members also invoked his role In
US policy promoted by the Reagan administration in Guatemala,
which was even defined as a genocide by a Guatemalan court
last year, US backed death squads kill 200,000 People in
Guatemala alone. Yeah, when he was asked to answer for his role
in this massacre on Charlie Rose, he simply laughed. And
some say he even pioneered the strategy of using aid as a
Trojan horse delivering weapons to us back forces, referring, of
course, to his overseeing the smuggling of weapons through
Iran to Nicaragua and right wing rebels. And Abrams even heralded
the decision to supply Nicaraguan forces as a, quote,
big change in the right direction. He said that violence
would increase because the purpose of our aid is to permit
people who are fighting on our side to use more violence. You
go,
you know, what are they doing? What is the plan? I mean,
it's there's no plan, they just expected this to work out. I
guess,
that, who was that high that they thought seriously, that
would work? And, again, I'm not again, this is old school
politicians thinking they can as nicely head madly in their
thinking they can control the message. The message is, this
guy is the President, we said so all you little people go out
there and say, Yes, you heard your own news is all in the
president. Every other publication in the mainstream,
but the people the people know, it's bull crap, what we're
talking about it right now we're circumventing all of that the
politicians really believe that that stuff still works. But this
is what I'm afraid of. So when they see it doesn't then what do
they do? And then there's kinetics is like the what's
left?
Well verbalize man,
it's kinetics. Exactly.
Cyber law,
okay. I didn't have an opportunity to clip I saw on CNN
International. So the Cuomo kid, who I have to be honest, it's
against all better judgment. He's kind of making a little
more sense these days. He's not really as unhinged as I thought
he was. Now maybe I've just been beaten down by, you know, the
European media into submission of you know, maybe this this guy
is good. I don't know what it was. But he had a whole thing
about this crazy amount of migrants coming to the border
from the south. And and now it's like, Wait a minute. This is the
upside down world. And you didn't know the numbers were
escaped will scare you. And and here's from the New York Times
from yesterday, border at breaking point, as more than
76,000 unauthorized migrants cross in a month.
Yeah, it's out of control. But yeah, it's everyone was
saying that this was not true. It's like it's down. It's the
lowest ever and now overnight, because I follow we follow this.
We follow this all the time. You and I paid pay attention to
this? Yeah, I don't know. So, first couple of paragraphs, the
number of migrant families this is important point. Crossing the
southwest border has once again broken records with unauthorized
entries nearly double what they were a year ago suggesting the
Trump administration's aggressive policies have not
discouraged new migration to the United States. First dig at
Trump right at the beginning, the guy who says Build a wall,
more than 76,000 migrants crossed the border without
authorization in February, an 11 year high and a strong sign that
stepped up prosecutions, new controls on asylum and harsher
detention policies have not reversed what remains a powerful
lewer for 1000s of families fleeing violence and poverty.
Are they going through ports of entry John?
It's never made clear. I think they probably aren't. I mean, if
the point is somebody keeps bringing this up, and I think
it's just a logical thing. It sounds like our Kelly is you got
just think they do argument you see these people just the
Liberals again, arguing with the conservative saying, Well, you
know, the Conservatives making the drug argument, which is what
Trump needs for his to use some millet to one of that law that
you used. You pointed out the drugs are coming across No, no.
Hey, us,
USC USC 10 284.
No, no, no, the liberals say it's a known fact that all the
drugs that we're capturing are coming through the points of
entry. And that's so that's the place we got to beef up that the
rest of it is open border doesn't mean anything. And the
counter argument is well, let's see. If you have a choice
between going through a port of entry or Just waltzing across a
big open wide space with your illegal drugs. Which one would
you prefer? Done? There's no counter argument to that.
End of this art or end of this the first part of this article,
President Trump has used the escalating numbers which they've
all denied up until now. I don't know what's true anymore. But
okay. President Trump has used the escalating numbers to
justify his plan to build an expanded wall along the 1900
mile border with Mexico, but says the New York Times, but a
wall would do little to slow migration. Most immigration
analysts say while the exact numbers are not known, many of
those apprehended along the southern border, including the
1000s, who present themselves at legal ports of entry surrender
voluntarily to Border Patrol agents and eventually submit
legal asylum claims. So they do go across illegally. Other
parts.
Yeah, of course, they do. Nothing but says that's what you
do. You think about it, what would you go stand in some line
to go across a T Awana. When you can just waltz across somewhere
around Texas somewhere wherever there's no, no, no protection
whatsoever.
The main problem is not one of uncontrolled, massive scaling
fences. No humanitarian challenge created as 1000s of
migrant families surge into remote areas where the
administration has so far failed to devote sufficient resources
to care for them as is required under the law. Today's I mean,
this is the here's what here's what I saw from a meta
perspective, because we've been watching this, this is what you
and I do for the past months. It's bull crap. It's really not
bad. It's ports of entry. There's not a lot. It's
diminishing, it's going down. And then overnight. Oh, my God,
it's here. Yet that wall was not a good idea. Am I the only one
who's seeing it this way? That they just switched their story?
They did switch the story, I think I don't know why. Because
it's unavoidable. Because it's crazy. I think it's because the
other story was working. Well, then, yes. Drugs are going
through the legal ports of entry all the drugs because nobody,
because the drug is the drug. Guys are so stupid. Yeah, that's
what they do. It's just a very vary. I don't know. It's some
sort of lie, lies.
Now. There was an interesting show the other day here, and
they were talking about fake news. And you have this term
fake news is not just something we use. It's used in every
country around the world. It does speak Dutch. No, say
Nabokov nueva over fake news hubba and vata in house. So you
just hear the fake news that using the English word, not the
Dutch word, which would be NET News. No, they say fake news. So
it's a brand. But they but what they call fake news, here is a
little different. Fake news here is Russian bots. And a Shawn
provocateurs online. It's not fake news about, you know, from
the mainstream. And they use that consistently.
Good job. Marketing
is a very good marketing job writing
up some fake writing to get cheap clicks and Top Paid views,
writing up some fake propaganda time here
is a report is your a news report, the reporter is Russian
it'll take you about a sentence to get into her accent. Because
there is new legislation in Russia regarding fake news.
No more critics or jokes about over the matter. Putin will be
allowed in internet, this is probably how the nearest future
will look like as the Russian lower house of parliament has
just adopted in the third region, this very controversial
war. It bans any publication that shows disrespect to the
state of the state's institutions, the symbols of the
state like the Russian flag, for example, the law enforcement
agencies so basically all the deputies, for example, and the
head of the state will be protected by this law, those who
violated face huge fines and if they repeatedly violated the
face up to 15 days in prison. However, they will be given a
day in order to destroy and delete this publication and what
does disrespectful mean? Actually, the law makes it make
make us give the explanation that they said that it could be
any publication that offends human dignity and public
morality.
I'd say that's a pretty good All for Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin.
By the way, this this reporter I would have if I had an American,
no show on television, I'd had her on. I think the accent is
fantastic. It's really a good one. It's not anything you can
even imitate. It's so out there.
I'm not sure that you can't get a handle on it. I don't think
it's really, it's definitely it's definitely something. Well,
that's kind of interesting. Is this a sedition laws?
censorship? Yeah, that Putin just got sick of it. He's just
sick of that bullcrap. I guess we just, you know, Trump
probably wishes he could do that. Well, everybody had a
business.
I was going to ask you, I was gonna ask you it has no one
picked this law up yet? In because that would be exactly
what I'd asked my little MK Ultra Mockingbird talking heads
to do is say, Here, read about this law, because that's what
Trump wants to do here.
Yeah, that's coming, but this is not on the rotation yet. I did
catch a an interesting clip about, you know, they're still
talking about the finding ways to investigate Trump and Nadler
is like, you know, going after him and this is going to end
poorly for, I think a lot of people not necessarily Trump,
but I want you to listen to this. And then I want to comment
on this is the investigating Trump in investigating Trump
insurance purposes Democracy Now.
One week after Trump's former personal lawyer and fixer
Michael Cohen delivered an explosive congressional
testimony the New York Times is reporting New York state
regulators are investigating insurance claims and policies of
Trump's businesses. And if subpoenaed the Trump
organization's insurance broker, Aon Michael Cohen told lawmakers
last week, the Trump Organization regularly inflated
the value of its assets for insurance purposes. The news
comes one day after the House Judiciary Committee requested
documents from 81 people and groups and Trump's inner circle.
Wow. That's their strategy, huh?
Well, here's something because this is just supposed to be a
scandal. And this is examples of like millennials and also,
pupils never own property. No, nothing's like Amy.
Amy's not a millennial.
No, but I said no, nothing. inflating your insurance valid,
inflating the value of something for insurance purposes, is what
you do. Yes. This is what you do. It's not a scandal. Have you
ever watched the antiques roadshow people, the guy will
give you the different price? Well, the auction value is
$50,000. And the you probably find it a retail setting for
$75,000. And for insurance purposes, is valued at $100,000.
It's always like double the actual value. You do that and
you pay
the rate you pay an increased rate,
you pay an increased rate. So what is scandalous about this?
This is general this is operate to standard operating procedure.
It's not a scandal, but the way she presents it is those oh my
god, he's he's it's a scandalous this is again, it the example of
the earlier clip where you have a businessman and versus a
politician. And it's like that's what business people do. This is
what normal people do.
Yes, normal people. I wouldn't you know, with that, I want to
hear it
again. One week after Trump's former personal lawyer and fixer
Michael Cohen delivered an explosive congressional
testimony. The New York Times is reporting New York state
regulators are investigating insurance claims and policies of
Trump's businesses. And if subpoenaed the Trump
organization's insurance broker, Aon Michael Cohen told lawmakers
last week that Trump Organization regularly inflated
the value of its assets for insurance purposes. The news
comes one day after the House Judiciary Committee requested
documents from 81 people and groups and Trump's inner circle.
Are you sure she's got the information? Right? Is there not
like a second, a second part to this expanded hours of
information? This is really that was really what they're doing
word so and so there really are there are prosecutors who are
investigating this actual legal people. Like within the the
justice system,
I have no idea what they're thinking. It's the stupidest
thing I've ever heard. And to make it sound like it's some
scandal is beyond me. I mean, how dumb are you?
But the the fact let me just let me ask. Let me hear again, who's
doing that
one week after Trump's former personal lawyer and fixer
Michael Cohen delivering explosive congressional
testimony. The New York Times is reporting New York state
regulators are investigating Insurance Claim York state
regulators. So So that's so that's not justice. That's a
politician enforcers.
Yeah, regulators. Regulators would be Did they regulate
insurance companies? They don't regulate people
Oh, I thought maybe it was government regulators
they are government regulators from New York State
okay, but it doesn't really say what kind of rate and rigor okay
because it's insurance regulated insurance
regulators say we have commissions they have insurance
why would they be doing you know, I hope someone from Iowa
maybe even the Moines or Connecticut if it has to be can
send us some information about this maybe there is something
weird about or not kosher so to speak about inflating your asset
values for insurance rates I don't see how it's a problem
either. But maybe we're missing something
no you inflate them to make sure that debt covered if something
bad happens and you pay that you and pay you pay the money that
inflated rate
Yes, you pay it Exactly Okay, that's bad. You're right. That's
it's it's a head shaker.
And it's like Did they did they play this stuff straight when
they run these stores? She doesn't unthinking kind of
reporting is just as worthy. Rampant the whole kind of you
can't get anything. The news is terrible. Yes.
Yeah, yeah, we can and if you got one more clip that'll be our
last for the day.
This is the Birmingham school in the UK, I think is a fun story
that LGBTQ Q A p, k k, whatever, is they're gonna stop teach you
certain things in this book because they're just fed up.
A primary school in Birmingham has caved into pressure and
temporarily pulled the plug on his lessons on LGBT rights.
That's after hundreds of parents reportedly kept their children
at home in protest. Artis Polly Boyka gives us the details.
Well, the cause of this route is a educational diversity program
called No outsiders. And it aims to teach kids about the
different types of families that they might encounter. And
talking to them about things like the idea of having two moms
or two dads and reading books to kids as young as four about the
concept of same sex families. devised by the Deputy Head of
the School at the center of this route. His name is Andrew Moffat
and actually he's been nominated for the world's best teacher
award. Take a look at him talking about the program.
Mommy Lulu hooked her. And now there are sick on both of them.
Mommy, Nina got some tissues and write them. Now sizes about
teaching children that you are different, but you can still be
friends with anybody. There's a huge rise in hate driving last
year, we have to find ways to teach children to talk to
counter that really.
But the majority of the parents at this school are unhappy with
Andrew more fat teaching methods. It's a predominantly
Muslim school and parents fundamentally disagree with the
idea of teaching kids about homosexuality and LGBT issues.
Some of our viewers might know that Islam in Islam,
homosexuality is forbidden. So up until now, the school had
really held firm and said that they would continue this, what
they see as a very necessary diversity program. But now a
number of media outlets are saying that the school has sent
a letter to parents saying that the lessons are going to be
stopped. Take a listen.
Up to the end of this term, we will not be delivering any no
outsiders lessons in our long term year curriculum plan. As
this half term has already been blocked for religious education,
equality assemblies will continue as normal and our
welcoming. No outsiders ethos will be there for all oh
man, you did it. You did it right at the end of the show.
That's really that's I'm impressed. I'm impressed.
Wow,
the Muslim part blew me away. Like what?
That's the thing that did is the irony of the whole thing is Wow,
Muslims are pretty conservative in some ways, and that's one of
them. And they're not putting up with this crap as opposed to the
Christians who, who are cowed into putting up with all of it.
You know, I I ordered the book, and I started reading it. I did
not bring it with me raising your transgender child. Very
interesting.
Oh, well, he had to give us a ringtone.
I will be giving a book report. Totally. I don't know if if you
want to take the time to read it. But that's why I'm doing it
for you. But it's very enlightening. And this is a book
that I know with certainty, as some parents of trans to very
young transgender children are reading. I wanted to understand
what they're reading, and it's well worth discussing. But that
won't be until now. next week because I'm still going to be
here on on Sunday. Tomorrow I finally get to hang out with
with my daughter. And watch some more EUROPEAN NEWS and watch it
unfold, see if I can learn anything to share with the
group.
Great. always entertaining. Yes. Thank you.
Thank you for that. Also, thank you to Matt lazarey to Sai
Donington and Leo Laporte for the end of show mixes.
appreciate it as always, and we did not think I did not think
the troll room or the artist, so I'll have to have the last show.
Somehow I missed that. So I'll have to do that on Sunday Show
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