Hi, I must be pesticide Adam curry, John C. Devorah. It's
Thursday February 28 2019. And this is your award winning get
my nation media assassination episode 1160s
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to your amygdala and broadcasting live from the
Capitol the drone Star state here in downtown Austin, in the
colonial in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
in from Northern Silicon Valley where there will be no Zephyr
today. I'm Jesse Devorah Raglan Buzzkill.
Well, what does that mean? Did we lose it'd be no Zephyr is for
not not riding today. Is it? Is it? Is it done? Is it closed as
shots? Is it oversold for
today? Wow. Because of the snowpack between Sacramento and
Truckee? Oh, they can't clear it. Snow. That's something new
for the tracks.
That's your climate change, man. Get used to it. I'm happy I'm
here in Texas.
Yeah, Snowpiercer.
Texas is going to be great. When the when the ice age comes? I
mean, it won't be great. It'll be more amenable.
Let's put it that way. Yes. It won't be you won't have those
hot
summers is 45 degrees here again, today's is cold for us.
It is cold.
Well, what a day yesterday was I don't know about you. I had a
I'm just a video bonanza.
You just talking about the Cohen hearings? No. Oh, that's just
part of it.
I'm watching the Cohen hearing, which was, well, we'll get into
it. But okay. And I'm watching. I'm waiting at a certain point.
Continue. I don't know if you noticed this, but I did. Why
were they playing the Cohen hearings on network TV will
gavel to gavel
because we didn't want anyone to know that there was something
happening in North Korea, or sorry in Vietnam.
And then the other thing was the real kind of the guides to all
this stuff is C span and I pointed this out in the
newsletter. Yes. C span ranted on C span three. That's how much
they thought of it.
At least it was on C span radio, which is what it was on C span
radio, but that would be it'd be relegated to just that. Yeah, so
I'm watching that. And at a certain point, I'm just like,
Ah, well, maybe AOC will be interesting, which he wasn't.
And then I get a frantic text from Tina. She's like OMG Alex
Jones on Joe Rogan. Nine. I just sat there and laughed for a
couple hours. There was so fantastic. Did you catch any of
that? No, I got 00. My goodness. Alex Jones came on. And he had a
piece of paper. And it was every nutty thing he's ever talked
about every single one of them and he went into great detail to
explain it was like four and a half hours the whole podcast
just went on and on and on and on. It was fantastic. I'm sure
that Rogan alienated a lot of his regular viewers. But man, it
was high. No, I don't know. It's just like yeah, that's pretty
much the way we see it too. Yeah, but he goes so fast that
no one can figure out what he's doing what he says all wound up.
He had a little bit on 5g which, which I'll play for this just an
example. This was in the beginning it only got worse from
here, your
family, your family, none of us are gonna make it there's a post
human error coming the breakaway civilization the deal has been
made. It's it's not the third dimension. They've made frickin
deals with interdimensional aliens. Okay. And notice nadian
evidence for that, because that's the truth. Maybe this is
true. I do not know this. And we'll get into it. Okay, it
wasn't until this demon these human pig hybrids. Jimmy just
pull this up. I believe it's true. I'm worried about human
pain. I'm rich. I'm sorry, the Sandy Hook kids died. My
identity is not that I get it. They admit that by
the way. That was that was one thing that was interesting. And
this came up a couple of times. So because these lawsuits
against him for I guess some is it emotional distress or
harassment, about the Sandy Hook kids dying, which he said he
always said that no, no one died at Sandy Hook. And now his story
is a little different. I don't have the clip, because we're
somewhere in that for four and a half hours. But he said well,
you know, because I live this stuff every single day. It's so
easy for me to kind of you know, get into it and I'm just
shooting from the hip and you know, I say stuff. It's not
always what I believe and you can hear him but what he just
said here in this little bit in the beginning is that's not my
identity. That's not I'm sorry, the kids died at Sandy Hook.
He's really He's backpedaling on that. In anticipation of the
lawsuit, I think.
I'm sorry, the Sandy Hook kids died. My identity is not that I
get it. They admit five Big and all the studies LA Times causes
massive mutation and cancer really rattles your DNA apart.
All of our kids are under attack. You mean, I'm mad at
Trump for allowing 5g to come in. This is the new internet,
you don't really want to chat to put in WaPo.
Instead of Huawei, he says WaPo, which I think is just as good
and Trump
for allowing 5g to come in. This is the new internet. You don't
really want to China put in WaPo you know, why your major? That's
the big Chinese player today. What's WaPo? G? You're fine. The
5g You're on fire. Okay. Article 96, about human animal hybrids
with pigs and cows.
It was that marijuana was necessary.
So he, yeah, I don't think I could take it. But I think it's
funny though that Rogan is just enough off the kind of the main,
you know, he's just not into things and therefore he would
think 5g is the new internet standard. You know, he
didn't eat Rogen didn't even know that the governor of
Virginia was the same, you know, had had just the day before the
kk k blackface yearbook picture came out that he had done this
whole bit about live birth. Babies who then you know, would
maybe be resuscitated, depending on what the mother wanted. And,
and he didn't know that. He didn't know that, that that that
had happened. A and he didn't know was the same guy. So yeah,
and that made me think like, wow, you know, we we take a lot
for granted what people do or don't know, when we just talk.
And I think, especially when they're major players like
Rogen. Yes. I think he knows that. He know that 5g Is it
phone standard, not an internet standard.
Right. Well, he's he does a lot of Stand Up shows he's got other
things to do.
He's not working 24/7 a standard of night his most of his work is
on this show. And you think that just doing that show?
I don't think you're right. I think he does quite a lot of
comedy shows. He travels a lot for that. And when you when
you're traveling,
but yeah, do when you're traveling, you're screwed. But
you can read the paper when you're on the plane. You can
read the paper when you're sitting in the green room.
Yes, yes,
it's fine. If he doesn't want to know these things. That's not
why people will listen to his show. The show for the banter.
Friday, March 15. March 22, April 23. He's got a week in
between. So yeah, he could do better. Should have me on the
show. I've never been invited. heartbroken.
You're not gonna get invited. No,
no, no. Well, maybe when my book comes out, I'll get my publicist
to book me on the show.
Yeah, okay. Oh, of course, I had my phone ringing for some
unknown reason. Why don't you still well, I go hang up on
these phonies.
I'd rather listen to what you're going to say to the phonies.
That seems a little more interesting. No, okay. And we're
all alone people. So I'm just going to suggest that the next
topic will be the Oscars. And I wonder if John has any clips
from the Oscars? I certainly don't because I thought the show
was boring.
And of course I didn't say anything because it was just you
it says wireless call or something like they just hang it
up.
Did you take it off the hook did you take the horn off the good?
Yes. Only you can do that.
Well, I think we should talk a little bit about and I think for
one thing there's this semi scandal about who they left off
the off the
off the off the memorial memorial was yeah, there was
quite a quite a few big names and I love that segment. That's
my favorite of any award show
because you stink out of Stanley Stanley don't don't and who
didn't sing in the rain and a bunch of other major movies. But
he died just before the show so you know they're gonna put him
on the next show. But Miss also miss was produced in this from
variety. Arnold Carlson, who will once he won the Best
Picture for Oliver Stones platoon. He also
also the did fugitive, the drill sergeant, our lead our army Urmi
from he was from Full Metal Jacket. He wasn't in there.
And also that the short, Vern Troyer vert minimi. Yeah, he
wasn't listed. I doesn't count Washington was racist. Righty
That's racist against little people. Gary Kurtz, Carol
Chania. Carol Channing.
That was a surprising name. Yeah.
So then I started looking at other people they did put on and
I'm going to name a few. And I want you to tell me what that
well first Well, they had, for example, on the list was Glenn
Campbell who I never thought of as a movie guy.
He didn't he did one big movie, didn't he? Well, if he did one
big thing
Gary Kurtz should have been. Well, I'm not arguing. Jake
LaMotta
Wow, they missed him. No,
they put him on they put him on what do you mind he's a boxer.
I'm sure it wasn't a boxing movie. No. Who handles this?
I miss I
Demet Liz Smith from Page Six Yeah, she's dead Damn it.
That's kind of the opposite of what I saw it okay let me Jamia
cabinet name some names you turn what they did that they were so
important that to be on this list, okay. And I don't want to
demean any of these people. I'm sorry. They're not around
anymore. But they left off I want to know
well mean that don't lie. You don't mean you don't care.
Carrie Goldberg. Barry Goldberg no airy,
no idea. Casting Director. Here's the bet you'd my all time
favorite one. Mike Mandel
of the Mandel sisters.
Dolly grip.
Hey, that's an important role, man.
Well, I didn't does every dolly grip. Anyone who's ever been a
dolly grip or a grip? Or a gaffer? Should they be on this
list? Only the important ones?
Ah, this is Robert Blakeman. Yeah, yeah, I
think he deserves to be on the list. Yeah, lighting engineer.
Yeah. Yeah. Richard Scott worked with him a lot. Richard Scott.
Yeah. Worked with him.
publicist, no, I didn't work. Now, here's my favorite one,
which is Rodolfo spec stagnone. A Spec oni? Catering was a he
was a documentary subject in the in a documentary called El de
quoi by Corrado Franco. He was the subject it was it was a
study of the homeless in Italy or something. And this one guy
was the main character wasn't really an actor never really
been in the business. The you know what was going on? But he
got listed. So what is your point? Robert Marta, camera
operator,
you act so diminutive about the about I don't I
love the camera operators. I'm just saying if you're gonna
leave out of major producer, why would
you? What do you care? I mean, does anyone really care
brought on to do presenting?
Here's the thing. Do we really need to analyze this show? That
is just irrelevant. I mean, half the winners are from Netflix
anyway. It's not about movies.
It was John Lewis doing on this show. Well, John
Lewis was and this is the interesting part. For all the
grief that GreenBook got, because of course it's racist.
And this is exactly what we predicted that the millennials
hate this movie. They hate Bohemian Rhapsody. John Lewis
was an advisor, a technical adviser on GreenBook. Yeah, I
didn't see this. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Now the millennials are racists.
Of course they are.
What was Serena Williams doing on the show?
She's awesome.
She likes to not suck.
So let's, let's put Wow, let's put the only clip I got is
Trevor Noah, who came out with his little he did a bit and I
don't know what he was doing on the show either.
Yes. He was a voice in Black Panther. He was a voice.
Yes, definitely. Cool.
I know too much about this. I don't know what's going on.
Yeah, there's something wrong with you. So he comes on and
does a very kind of a funny sketch and then does this little
twist back thing which got a lot of attention by the trades and
other media. Because it was it was I thought it was a racist
insult but okay, let's play the clip. Please welcome Trevor
Noah.
Black camphor may be an African hero, but his story and his
appeal are universal. I know this personally, because of all
the people who constantly come up to me and say, What? conda
forever. Everywhere in the world. My African friends are
like Wakanda forever. In France, I've had people saying Oh,
Trevor Noah, you say Wakanda forever. No, even backstage Mel
Gibson came up to me like Wakanda forever. He said another
word after that. But the Wakanda part was nice. Growing up as a
young boy in Wakanda, I would see kings Achala flying over a
village and he would remind me of a great Casa phrase of
innumerable abeilles Bandag Orca, which means in times like
these we are stronger when we fight together, than when we do
kreitzer fights apart. This is Best Picture nominee, black
camper. All right.
So you know the gag, right? No. Oh my god. You don't know. I
don't know the gag. So that little cosa phrase he said at
the end, actually translated to whites won't know I'm lying.
Really? Yeah.
How nice of him. Yeah. And I'm sure Mel Gibson also sent him
some cupcakes this morning. Geez. Yeah, well, yeah, I just
don't see the relevance. ratings weren't too bad. Actually. No,
they went up. Which means your host suck. Like
that part, I think has to do suck. I mean, ever since Carson
was okay as a host. And that was about it.
Let's see. So so we had all the anger over green book, it was
the right to Spike Lee, who got all pissed off, which is if
you've ever lived in New York. Hello, it's Spike Lee. That's
what he does.
The other thing I should mention is at the beginning, when they
started over the I thought it was odd. I thought that I didn't
think the show got off to a good start with the with the I liked
the way they presented the song. From from Queen with Adam
Lambert, who Yeah, knew the ending singer. He
did the musical, I think.
Yeah, yeah, he's good. So at the beginning, they started off, but
I thought it was off putting because they did so many shots
of the audience. And you saw these middle aged farts you
know, jerking around and clapping and going their arms
back and forth and doing the bogey in the middle in the
audience standing up. I just look at these people, because
they're all the first few rows are just the most rich, kind of
isolated celebrities in the world. And the way they're
jerking around. Like they're part of the scene. You know,
they're like, they're like they're in a beatnik club, you
know, in the 50s. Who knows what I think?
I think you've hit on it. I think you've hit on it. I
think it is. It just grossed me out.
You know, we're at a tipping point. We're right at the edge
is not going to be too many. That's why watch the In Memoriam
segment. I mean, look at Brian May and Roger Taylor from Queen.
I know Roger Taylor. I know. I know. Brian, May. These guys
look like at one thing, one foot in the grave with the with the
really white, white gray hair. And then the audience has the
same these old people they gotta go. We're just kind of I think
New Hollywood is just waiting for these people to croak. Move
on. Move on. I read a new complaint about Bohemian
Rhapsody bad. By the way. A lot of people were wondering why it
got Best Editing. Because I thought it was kind of a messy
movie myself. But then I thought about it's like, oh, yeah, this
is the one that Bryan Singer directed, you know, 70% of and
then they had bring in somebody else he got kicked off for being
a creep and being a creep in the past and just being a creep. And
so some poor editor who won the the Oscar had to stitch all that
stuff together. So I think that was kind of an inside Hollywood
deal saying, Hey, man, you really deserve this, even though
it wasn't the best editing in my opinion. And of course, I'm not
a member of the Academy. But the big problem was in the movie,
haha.
Well, you would just to stop you there. This is also an A note of
encouragement, because this sort of thing can happen at any time.
And they have to bring in a pro to stitch things up. Yeah. And
this is saying, Hey, we will give you an award if you do
this.
Oh, good point. Because if you come into the store if you come
in and save the day, yeah. And save save the Save the purse.
Yeah. Well, the all of this, this, you know, I think Bohemian
Rhapsody got the most awards, I think. And
I don't think that's up like kinda go one extra. They could
make up awards and those sorts of things.
But the community is up in arms about the Bohemian Rhapsody
movie because it does not correctly depict Freddie Mercury
as being bisexual. And the goal of doing that in the awards
week, which fell in the same week as bisexual Awareness Week.
One sexual awareness week is a lot there's a lot of people in
this means you gotta keep it you got to keep looking back behind
you all the time. This bisexual awareness, you have to be
worried about bisexual jumping.
Yeah, there's a lot here. There's a lot of people in the
community who feel that bisexuality is not a thing that
you don't really belong in the LGBTQ or the LGBTQ Qi a PK Yeah,
that's exactly what you just an opportunist the kiss.
Yeah, exactly. You can't have it both ways. Yeah, an opportunist
that precisely precisely opportunism week. So yeah, you
know, let's, that's kind of over now. I guess no one's talking
about the Oscars anymore. It's done. We just do it. out of
politeness,
we had to because we said we would Correct,
correct. Okay. Did you get anything from Cohen? Because I
kind of watch them Cohen Oh, really? Okay, good. Well, short,
good. I knew you would just a couple of little deals here and
there nothing really,
let's just explain a splain because I did learn a few
things. We set it up. This is Michael Cohen. He was the
President's personal lawyer. He is the one that would he's a
fixer. So we take care of stuff and he paid off stormy Daniels
and the McDougal woman. And interestingly, now they really
looked at it and listen to him and looked at some analysis. He
has been convicted of five counts of tax fraud. That's his
that's the end bank fraud. That's his main crime. But he
out of the goodness of his heart, he confessed to the crime
of campaign finance violations, which is interesting. He did
that because no one ever goes to jail for campaign finance
violations. What typically happens is you get a fine and
you have to return the money that's happening with every
president every every election. That's happened. Yes.
Bill Obama did that. But but it turns out if you listen to the
Neapolitan Oh types and these right wingers, the he's his
violation wasn't illegal. It wasn't.
Exactly. That's my point. He didn't have to commit to that.
He didn't have to do that. But he is obvious while he did.
He did it to make it make Trump look bad.
And, and rule 35 of the Southern District of New York or
whatever, if he cooperates, which he said many times I'm
here cooperating, but that that really was that was really
telling where he didn't need it. There was no crime. He didn't
have to confess to anything. He wasn't being charged with it.
And he's not I admit to it, I'm done. Here I am, locked me up.
And now he kind of comes across as Oh, I'm going to jail for for
being associated with the President's crimes. But it's
really not his jail time is for bank fraud and tax evasion. But
that was the thing that I that I learned. And other than that, I
learned that the Putin's penthouse that everyone was so
sure about Trump already. I already hooked up Putin with a
penthouse in the Trump Moscow tower. And there was Cohen
saying, Oh, that was just a PR stunt. That was just to get
people to sign up to be a part of the of the residency. Yeah,
and everything else. Yeah. Well,
there's some fun stuff. Okay. First of all, let's play this
introductory clip, which is the gag order is by one of the
representatives green. And he was irked about the fact that
apparently they had they were out there were only a few things
they could talk about. It was all outlined, and he's gonna
bust them on this and grouse about it. Thanks,
Chairman, Ranking Member Jordan, chairman in this committee have
promised members of the American people a fair and open process,
yet the Democrats have vastly limited the scope of this
hearing. They've issued a gag order to try to tell members of
this committee what we can and cannot talk about. My colleagues
on the other side of the aisle claim that they want the truth
that they want transparency and fair oversight. Yet the
Democrats witness to testify before Congress today is none
other than a scorned man, who's going to prison for lying to
Congress, let that sink in. He's going to prison for lying to
Congress and our witness to Congress. If you read the
sentencing report on Mr. Cohen, words, like deceptive and
greedy, are scattered throughout that report. It paints a picture
of a narcissist, a bully, who cannot tell the truth, whether
it's about the President or about his own personal life. But
today, he's the majority party star witness. Yeah.
So that was his little complaint, but this whole thing
was that was kind of the theme of the Republican side. But
let's see, we just a few details. There's a 12 second
clip law. These are very short, this is a hearing on his book
deal. Okay, here is a
platform for you to continue to lie, and sensationalize and
exaggerate wherever it suits you. Do you plan to pursue
another book deal about your experiences? Yes.
That came up a couple of times. Will you will you promise not to
sell your stories like No. Hello? Yeah, that was made
pretty obvious. You know, he'll spend some time on the inside
but at least he's got something to come home to.
Yeah, yeah. book deal. So he also in this area, which I
thought was the funniest part is he took credit. Jordan actually
asked him a couple of times about this. Alright, took credit
for Trump being the president. Yes. He says that he invented
the whole idea of a Trump presidency and then he said why
you go yeah, maybe Trump thought about it in the past. He's
always been thinking about it. And Roger Stone takes more
credit. I mean, everybody takes credit for this, but this I took
all the credit. And here's his little explanation. This is that
guy's
drunk.com. Yeah, wow. 2011 was my idea. I saw a document in the
newspaper that said Who would you vote for in 2012 6% of
people said Michael Michael Malone. 6% of people turned
around and said they'd vote for Donald Donald Trump as president
because all I did was office and I said to him, Mr. Trump, take a
look at this as well. Wouldn't that be great? And with that is
where it all started? Yeah. Okay, like I'm sure I'm sure he
had never thought of anything like that until you came No, I
didn't tell me that you didn't listen to this hearing and from
time to time think to yourself shit he sounds just like Andrew
Horowitz
doesn't really Oh,
there was a couple a couple of intonations the way he said
stuff and like Horowitz just me just
didn't notice it. Or which does sound like one of those brokers
who calls you up? Hey, you want to get rich you want to leave
here whitebridge can do that voice he does a lot of voices
Yeah, he does a great Bernie but he does the voice of the guy
which is he claims as a fact that talked to a guy that one of
these guys on the phone once because I wasn't gonna buy
anything so I started discussing with him his style of sales and
which is pretty hard to do with these guys because they return a
deadline and he says the combinate there's a kind of got
this from ologists that we're talking about guys will call you
up Hey, you want to buy some stock?
It goes like it goes like this
Hey, John. Hey John. Hey Don How you doing? Hey, how you doing?
Hey, do you want to get rich and wet leave your fucking life rich
I could do do do you buy stocks and bonds you want to get Rick
it's pretty close. Did barely the it's a combination of a
Brooklyn and a Boston accent. It is the absolute best and that
sells baby itself sells. So here's the now there's a thing
about the inaugural which he talked about the lip Joes
believe that yeah, inaugural? Yeah.
They think that because this would be the Emoluments Clause?
Well, we don't know. Because nobody seems to get it straight.
There was one Democrat that came and asked about the inaugural
about overcharging, overcharging, gouging and
charging at the hotel, which is gouging. But this didn't go
anywhere. And it didn't give me any information. Because we'll
play this short clip. This is hearing inaugural question the
rental
that was being quoted was substantial, even double what
you would expect to pay according to what the market
should bear. And so an event in a sense that the Trump Hotel was
up charging to the inaugural even I couldn't afford to stay
there. Yeah. And so I'm just curious, do you have a sense of
whether that kind of a practice is something that is consistent
or inconsistent? Is it possible that that kind of up charging
could be done inside a Trump operation? It should
happen? It's the American way, bro. And
gentlemen, stay in a hotel during a convention. Yeah. Or go
to Vegas during
a convention.
What I can say to you is I wasn't part of the Inaugural
Committee. I raised a lot of money for the inauguration. But
I was not part of it. And there was a lot of things in that
actually, that issues, something that's also obviously we've read
about in the paper being investigated at the current
moment. Thank you,
Mr. Higgins.
Cheese. So what exactly would the idea be? Their money was
raised? It wasn't government money. So where's the violation?
Oh, oh, I here's what I I don't know. But I'm gonna tell you
what I think okay. is based on just speculation
and expertise and experience.
Well, it's good go like this. It's like a, it's like a golf
club scam that the Japanese Yakuza run. You set up the thing
and you want to give the you want to send some bribes over to
the President. So we're gonna rent you this suite at the Trump
hotel. It's as good as normally 1000 Because it's so crowded.
We're going to give it to you for $10,000. Right, President it
will be very happy.
Yes. Okay, so that's pretty much DC politics. I still don't I
still don't see anything out of the ordinary. We're all humans
man. Yeah, Emoluments Clause, baby.
So Schultz was on and she's just as Debbie Wasserman. Yeah. So
here's her little thing. I kind of ended it when she kind of
flubbed but she has this meme. She keeps promoting and it was
promoted by Norah O'Donnell on CBS. When Norah O'Donnell says
Oh, and then Debbie Wasserman Schultz spoken I don't have this
tip. I wish I did. And Nora says She was she was the head of the
Democratic National Committee and was ousted by the Russian
leaks.
No. How about she was ousted for screwing Bernie Sanders and
trickery.
No, no, not of course. I'm sorry, Russian leaks. I'm sorry.
So we have the same Russian leak mean, that Schultz herself
promotes. And I guess she's buddies because she said, I
think she's in New York. A lot. I mean, she's from Florida, but
she's in New York a lot. Because one of our we have people,
yes. Who see her who see her. Yes.
She's in New York a lot. So this is her promoting the same bowl
crap theme, that it was all the Russians fault that she's not
the head of the DNC,
as you likely know, I served as the chair of the Democratic
National Committee at the time of the Russian hacks. And when
Russia weaponized the messages. And by
the way, these are only indictments, these Russia hacks.
You know, this has not been proven in a court of law. This
is only based upon Mueller's indictment. I don't think
there's ever been any any conclusive trial over
all the proof leads to it was stolen by Seth, Seth rich,
rich, edited stolen. But I want to be clear, my questions are
not about the harm done to any individual,
which started over continuous comment that I thought needed to
be heard in His entirety.
As you likely know, I served as the chair of the Democratic
National Committee at the time of the Russian hacks, and when
Russia weaponized the messages that it had stolen. But I want
to be clear, my questions are not about the harm done to any
individual by WikiLeaks and the Russians. It's about the
possible and likely harm to the United States of America and our
democracy, your career questions that I hope will connect more of
these dots. Mr. Cohen, is it your testimony that Mr. Trump
had advanced knowledge of the Russia WikiLeaks released the
the DNC emails?
Kid? I cannot answer that in a yes or no, he had advanced
notice that there was going to be a dump of emails. But at no
time did I hear the specificity of what those emails were going
to be.
But you do testify today that he had advanced knowledge of their
of their into imminent release.
That that is what I had stated in my testimony and that
he cheered that outcome. Yes, ma'am. Did Mr. Trump likely
share this information with his daughter Ivanka son Don Jr. or
Jared lock them up? I'm not aware of that. Was Ivanka, Jared
or Don Jr. still involved in the in the Russian tower deal at
that time.
The company was involved in the deal, which meant that the
family was involved in the deal.
If Mr. Trump and his daughter Ivanka and son Donald Donald Jr.
are involved in the rump in the end
you should have let it go a little longer because she laughs
at herself for saying rump
I knew I let it go. She actually snapped out of it after that
little snicker at the end. She's like I would have but the laugh
was mostly physical.
Yeah, okay, that's that's possible, but I thought it was
funny romp. Now, something else something else about this clip.
First of all the the Democrats I can just say in this case, the
Democrats desperately want to get Ivanka and Jared and anybody
they can from the family Don Jr. and Eric and I hope Kimberly
Guilfoyle get everyone. We have to talk to them. We have
testified. And there was something else that she
mentioned in Oh, yes. So the story, I don't know if you have
the clip of that. The story that Cohen told is that he was in
Trump's office, and Roger Stone called and Trump put him on
speakerphone. And, and stone then said, Hey, golf ball, that
WikiLeaks you're going to drop, it's going to drop these emails.
And that's that was his testimony as to how he knows
that Trump heard that directly from Roger Stone, a couple
things. From what I understand this President, not only does he
not use email, not only does he not text, but I'm pretty sure he
doesn't put Roger Stone on speakerphone. I don't think he
put anybody on speakerphone. I don't think Roger Stone would
want himself to be on speakerphone. Certainly not with
this news. But in the line of questioning. That was it was the
day that say, Well, hold on the timeline was that Trump knew
about the the WikiLeaks coming a week before it happened. Yeah.
And we did. Yes, exactly. WikiLeaks was tweeting it for a
month.
Yeah. It was being tweeted at month earlier. Yeah. I know.
This is a part that was really a head scratcher because nobody,
not one of the Republicans mentioned this that I can think
of I will say that Cohen claims that Trump only use the
speakerphone.
No, he said he used it quite frequently.
Okay, well
now because I listened to them. Because I know I don't think
he's talking to the guy look again What a waste of time
no the whole thing animal waste a network time Now Jack would
have had good Seinfeld repeat anything.
I had one other goodbye the illegal recordings that he did
that I didn't think that was then not that interesting is not
except we have to play. But I do have the some of the end of the
the only clip I have the end of the
the Cummings Yes. The only one I have. That's okay, we'll play
your version.
It's this didn't go all the way to the end, it just goes to the
part that we thought was that interesting producers thought
was interesting.
Well, then let me play my clip. It's about 20 seconds longer has
because it is literally at the end a
better Donald Trump a better United States of America, and a
better world. And I mean that from the depths of my heart.
When we're dancing with the angels. The question will be
asked in 2019. What do we do to make sure we kept our democracy
intact? Did we stand on the sidelines and say nothing? That
we play games and I'm tired of these statements say they come
people coming here say, Oh, this is the first hearing. It is not
the first hearing. The first hearing was with regard to
prescription drugs. Remember, a little girl? Lady said that Miss
Wertham her daughter died because she could not get $333 a
month in insulin. That was our first hearing. Second hearing.
HR one voting rights corrupted and government. Come on now. We
can do more than one thing. And we have got to get back to
normal with that. This meeting is adjourned. The magic number?
Yeah, we hear your comings Come on. Now. You know what a bomb I
used to say all the time, though. Oh, well, it's
signaling. This is the end. And there's more to call me this
bullcrap. 330 That's like, Thanks for your attention. No
agenda. People just wasted 18 hours of your time. That's what
it signaled. Yeah, it's, you know, at what point will the
news consuming public just get so tired of it? It cannot last
they couldn't even do it with the damn airplane. And the thing
still was never found
an airplane they had to give kids or Yeah, I mean,
that's the day they had to get an hour in the day went on for a
year at least just about an airplane. Every
single day. I remember when Reynolds was the guy I can't
remember his first name very famous broadcaster was the
Reynolds anyway, he used to do Nightline before Kapil came
along. And Reynolds did Nightline. People at ABC decided
that when the hostage cried, I remember watching this, the
hostage crisis took place in 1979 when the Iranians stole our
diplomats and tore down our embassy in Tehran. And they've
started his campaign we're going to broadcast exclusively about
this until it's resolved. And it was the end of him as a
broadcaster. And they're still because they promised that they
were gonna broadcast about this exclusively, until it was over.
In about six months into it. It wasn't going to be over anytime
soon. Nobody was doing much about it. These poor people were
stuck over there. And they showed the gradings were going
through the tank and every they had to fire him and bring in Ted
Koppel pretty much is that this is kind of in a condensed form,
but that's what happened. And so the public only puts up with
stuff for if they've put up with them for six months. I think
it's a miracle.
Well, this has been a little bit longer than that. It's just kept
on going
well, I think what you're talking about the airplane
you're talking about Trump's Trump's stuff there
well yeah, yeah. All of that. Oh, I hope so.
I like to see what the ratings were for this goal as daytime
stuff Oh, that's
got to be horrible. Zero I mean, just watch just can't now I
can't it can't have been it couldn't have been any good. No
way. Well, we are here in climate gate land,
by the way, and they're packing a man with us superstars to come
into the s South by Southwest. When is this?
I believe it is April.
Why? It's gonna be a mess.
It's always a mess. There's nothing new there. Well, we
finally done it, John, we hit The gold standard. Okay, good,
the gold standard. And this was wait big news for about an hour
until Trump tweeted something else. And we now know that the
confidence that human activities are raising the heat at Earth's
surface have reached a five sigma level. Oh, excuse me, five
sigma, five sigma level. In case you're wondering that as a
statistical gauge, meaning there is only a one in a million
chance that signal would appear if there was no warming. This is
the gold standard previously applied in 2012. To confirm the
discovery of the Higgs boson subatomic particle made when
they tried to create the black hole for us all to die in. Yeah,
failed. So this is this is it, they've they've played their
last card. And this is going to be very worrying, because now
they're saying not only is it 97% of all scientists, which I
actually think I saw this morning of all climate,
researching scientists, that's something someone was
backtracking.
That's no good. So it's closer to the truth.
So now it's not 97%. This is 99.99999% certain that they are
right, that humans are causing
global elimination. This is what governing body,
the Nature Climate Change. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. Who are these
people called? Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in
California.
Lawrence Livermore Labs made this proclamation.
Yes. Or some guy from it.
We meet that did some guy from the labs. Yeah. Here's the guy.
Luckily.
Here's the guy who the guy's name is. Luckily, I have friends
within this organization. Oh, good. I'm sure they listen to
the show all the time.
I'm sure they don't.
Yeah, lead author Benjamin santur, or Santerre lead author
of the study, how do you suppose name sa NT er, Benjamin santur.
But the news came out of Oslo. So I guess they have some
Institute.
To be coming out of Livermore, I hear
you. I'm just saying this. But this is a it's not just one
place. I mean, these are the top gold standard scientists from
all over the globe. And they all agree 99.9999% One in a million?
Could they be wrong? One in a million chance? Now, you know,
that's just crazy. Can't even can't even think about it that
just right Shut up all over. And one of our producers
is where he came from, where East Anglia the numbers doesn't
get much better than that does it?
Perfect, perfect. The p value guys. Yeah, we know all about
that. And one of our producers sent us a nice note and he does
video production. In fact, he says that the production that I
was so wowed by in what was it the Samsung Galaxy 10, five G
with ESET. That was crazy. That was better than an apple an
Apple event. So he says that his company produced that and they
also produce this, like awareness teaching center in
nuclear facilities, where kids and then your class can go in
and learn about nuclear energy. And he mentioned that when he
was making the, you know, this exhibit, which you know, it's
pretty elaborate this hands on stuff. He was one of those
things kids do a field trip to. And he mentioned that when he
was putting that together, the company that hired his company
said, Well, you really should look at the persuasion of this
woman, this girl Severan Suzuki in Rio in now, this was 1992.
This was when we were just getting started with climate
change, but also a great moment in history of abusing kids to
present a message. And I'm just gonna play a minute of it
because as I was listening to what this kid is saying, it's
the same thing you hear from the starlight movement was not
starlight, the sunrise movement, the AOC Green New Deal, kids,
it's all exactly the same. But she had this one little bit in
here that made me think for a sec at school.
Even in kindergarten, you teach us how to behave in the world.
You teach us to not fight with others, to work things out, to
respect others to clean up our mess, not to hurt other
creatures to share, not be greedy. Then why do you go out
and do do this? Things You tell us not to do. Do not forget why
you're attending these conferences, who you're doing
this for. We are your own children, you are deciding what
kind of world we are growing up in. Parents should be able to
comfort their children by saying, everything's going to be
alright. It's not the end of the world. And we're, and we're
doing the best we can. But I don't think you can say that to
us anymore. Are we even on your list of priorities? My dad
always says, You are what you do? Not what you say? Well, what
you do makes me cry at night. You grown up, say you love us.
But I challenge you. Please make your actions reflect your words.
Thank you. So
I think we've all the kid didn't write that? No, of
course not. As I said it was the first a good moment in time of
child abuse for you know, for political means. But what I find
interesting is that in today's age, where every kid has, you
know, is connected, not every kid, but most kids are
connected. They're gonna start and see through the game,
because this kid is right. You teach your kids be nice, be kind
to other human beings be kind to animals. But meanwhile, all they
see all day is the shit show that is the real world. It's on
Twitter. It's like, this is not a surprise. So when you have
politicians, like the gray haired ones, we've been talking
about no different from the people of the Academy Awards,
who for decades, have been using fear mongering, it's paying off,
but you're in trouble now. Because now we have only 12
years left to live, we're going to die. Children don't even want
to have children anymore because of the reports. The hype, the
hyperbole, this the constant verbal diarrhea with fear
mongering that my generation yelling at okay, you, John, your
generation didn't dry during drop and covering and like, hey,
you know, we've, we know what this is. But today's generation,
it's working on them. And I have some expanded clips from the
short when you might have switches, by
the way. This generation, I think it probably extends into
the millennials. Yes, I would agree are all so proud of
themselves for being and I was told this when they were when my
kids were younger, quote unquote, were immune. Joe
advertiser, oh my God.
Now they may be immune to advertising. But their info
gates are wide open to messaging. And it's just
slipping right in and then you get results. And the results
don't stick in some classroom where teacher says, you know,
shut up or sit down or whatever. Now, it's encouraged to be you
have everyone's in on the game. In fact, we got a note here from
one of our today off kids Yes, ruined one of our teachers. And
because we were talking about that isn't you can't just take
the day off, teachers just can't do this. And, and this teacher
is producer Nathan was okay to use his name. I'll just read his
notes. I've emailed a few times about education conversations, I
wanted to drop a note about the sunrise people in student
protests. The fact that a teacher skip school with their
students is ridiculous. The teachers either doing this
illegally or with the permission of the administrator either way,
it's beyond the scope, to say the least, I teach one of the
most liberal schools in Washington State, which is
saying something. And I would never be allowed to skip school
with my students to fulfill some kind of political agenda. As
teachers, we are legally liable for the protection and physical
well being. I also need to tell you a quick story because I
think you'll enjoy this. I teach high school biology and
thankfully, I do my job well. I teach my kids to calm down not
to worry about the environment and things they can't control. I
had a student interrupt me and ask, Do you believe in climate
change? I looked at her and just decided I'm tired of giving an
F. So I said, No, I don't believe I don't need to believe
anything. Climate is not a religion, which I think is a
great answer. By the way, if someone says, Do you believe in
climate change? No, I don't. It's not a religion. The next
day in my science meeting, one of the other teachers waited for
a quiet moment and asked in front of all the other teachers,
Nathan, I heard from a student that you don't believe in global
warming. Can that be true? I just looked at him and said yes,
it's true. The room paused. Everyone looked at me was
shocked. Another teacher said, explain, which I responded with.
No. I quietly packed my stuff and said I knew this would
happen and I didn't appreciate it and walked out. The first
teacher followed me to my room to ask more questions where I
ripped into him about how unprofessional and immature he
acted Believe it or not, he ended up apologizing the next
day, and he agreed that he had overstepped a share that with
you because they are crazy teachers but there are plenty of
us standing for truth. I work hard to teach my students one
what we got here is I If I work hard to teach my students about
the realities of this world and take a positive approach, the
vast majority majority of teachers are simply teaching
what is given to them. The real issue is Pearson review and
higher ed. Yeah, no kidding. It's all it's all in the system,
my friend. So anyway, so we have these kids who have been
indoctrinated, and they're really believing it and it's not
hard to believe you're going to die if that's all you hear your
entire life to this day. And then you obviously whether she's
sincere or not, when you have AOC jumping into the mix, and
confirming it, it's only going to get worse
our planet is going to
think this is an as she did an Instagram at length cooking
Instagram, you know, the kind that Elizabeth Warren only
dreams of, she's making chili which she made with sweet
potato. I don't think belongs and Chile
might be some sort of a Puerto Rican thing or something I'm not
sure. It could be cubed probably does not belong in there. But it
might be good. Worth worth asking.
So here she is, our planet is going to fit disaster if we
don't turn the ship around. So it's basically like there's
scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to
be very difficult. And it does lead
this is a great new twist. Instead of saying the scientific
consensus that humans are heating up the planet with our
with it, you know, with cow farts in our own farts and
talking like on a podcast and treble, she says that there's
scientific consensus kids aren't going to have it easy. There's
no scientific consensus, little twist, yes, very, very smart
little move,
that the lives of children are going to be very difficult. Roll
it back. Our planet is going to fit disaster if we don't turn
the ship around. And so it's basically like there's
scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to
be very difficult. And it does lead I think young people to
have a legitimate question, you know, should Is it okay to still
have children.
If you have a chance, go back and look at that video where she
says this line, the way she says it, the way she tilts her head,
the way she looks, there is something about it, that it
looks like she's been trained to do this professionally, it was
just one of the best glances have ever seen her make almost
like saying, those of you in the know, you know what I'm doing.
But it wasn't quite that I just, if you can see it, take a look
at it.
And I mean, not just financially because people are graduating
with 2030 $100,000 worth of student loan debt. So they can't
even afford to have kids in the house. But also just this basic
moral question, like what do we do and, and even if you don't
have kids, there are still children here in the world, and
we have a moral obligation to them and to leave a better world
for them. And this idea that if we just you know, I've been
working on this for X amount of years,
oh, shit wouldn't be X amount of years. She was a waitress,
bartender,
hath no, okay.
Thank you. You're right, x. But if you're right, dammit.
It's like not good enough. Like, we need a universal sense of
urgency. And people are trying to like introduce water down
proposals that are frankly going to kill us. We're going to die.
A lack of urgency is going to kill us. It doesn't matter. This
is you know, if she if she doesn't mean this, it's
extremely irresponsible. She is the leader of the new voting
public, she's telling them they're going to die. I will
have to switch my disdain from Dianne Feinstein to AOC. If she
keeps this crap up,
if you agree that climate change is an important issue, if at
this point, it doesn't matter. If you if you believe climate
change is a problem. That's not even the issue. It's the issue
is how urgently you feel we need to fix it.
All right, so then, you know she's doing this Instagram and
people ask questions, or maybe it's a periscope. And you know,
tell her what is the green New Deal? Tell us? Yeah, everyone,
I'm
making chili. Oh, wait. Someone said please explain the green
New Deal. Thank you for asking. So the whole premise of the
green new deal is that we're screwed on climate. Like I'm
sorry to break it to you. If we do nothing, there is no hope.
Period. That's just a principle across the board.
And that's just a principle across the board. If you do
nothing, there's no hope period.
If we do not act that Is,
across the board baby to cry principle across the board. I've
never heard this expression, I like it to pull
across the board. If we do not act, there is no hope. The only
time we can hope is when we act. But when it comes to climate in
particular, we're actually screwed. There is a global
threat to the planet, a global threat. And at this point, we
don't even have to prove it just walk outside in winter, in a lot
of places, and it's either way worse than you're used to, or
way warmer than you're used to.
I like how crap I'd like How cold is worse and warmer is just
warmer. Instead of it's either way worse, or it's way worse. So
what is it? In this case,
I've been here longer than she has on the globe. And I've been
in an area probably too long. So I've really used to its changes
over the years and the fact that it's node in 1972. And I'm not
seeing anything that these people are talking about doesn't
exist. They're deluded, I can look out the window, and there's
the mud flats that have been here for over 100 years, not one
inch extra water. It's just like, I can't see well,
everybody can't just notice that. You know, it's almost like
people come to San Francisco and they're here from the Bay Area.
They're here for like, I don't know, maybe four or five years,
even after four or five years, every July 4 when the fog rolls
in and ruins the fireworks, which it does every year have
been doing that every year forever. They say Oh God, this
is terrible. It's getting worse. No. COVID is in July. Mark Twain
talked about being cold in July in the 18 hundred's,
hey, how about the guy that in the in the in the 18, early
1800s, who went to California and wrote about the fire and the
brimstone as Hell on Earth
is burning down but
AOC is saying something I think the truth wants to come out or
maybe suggest an idiot which I don't think I know you think
it's all say before you do. She says you can prove it to
yourself just go outside. It's either way worse or warmer.
Implying that global cooling, which I think is really upon us
is way worse than global warming. She doesn't say both
are bad.
Prove it just walk outside in winter, in a lot of places. And
it's either way worse than you're used to. Or way warmer
than you're used to. Hurricanes storms wildfires, we are dying
now.
Oh my god, this woman.
Be careful though. She is so hated. And so it irks you know
Fox News, right wing everybody so much
than what she's getting know exactly what you're saying?
Yeah, not to you. I'm just silly. I'm not worried about it
because the Democrat Party will take care of her. Well and put
up with this. Well, it's all she's off message. She's not on
the team.
Let's listen to presidential hopeful. Kamala Harris regarding
the green New Deal. See if she's on message,
you cast yourself on the campaign trail as a truth
seller, you say we need to tell truth. What do you say? Or tell
me if you think this is fair, that as you talk to Democratic
voters, they're hungry. And they want ideas. And so you'll hear
things like the green New Deal. You'll hear things like Medicare
for all, while you're here things like whether it's taxes,
you'll hear things, at what point to say, that's our North
Star. But we have to be realists,
we there's no question we have to be practical. But being
practical also recognizes that climate change is an existential
threat to us, as human beings being practical, recognizes that
greenhouse gas emissions are threatening our air and
threatening the planet, and that it is well within our capacity
as human beings to change our behaviors and a way that we can
reduce its effects. That's practical. Can we afford it? Of
course, we can afford to have $3
trillion a year for Medicare for all by some studies. I don't
depending on which portions of the green New Deal you pick to
do first, that's money. That you know what the Republicans are
gonna say, tax and spend liberals pie in the sky.
One of the things that I admire and respect is the measurement
that is captured in three letters ROI. What's the return
on the investment? People in the private sector understand this
really well? It's not about a cost. It's about an investment.
And then the question should be, is it worth the cost in terms of
the investment potential? Are we going to get back more than we
put in?
Bloomberg? Amy Klobuchar, some of your potential fellow
Democrats say, No, it's too much. It's too ambitious. It's
too expensive. You think they're wrong?
I look forward to that debate on the debate stage. I look forward
to it very much.
Okay, we'll see how you do on that debate stage. But she takes
the financial route. And this was discussed only only like
five weeks ago and I think was Stanford University Bill Gates
was there for there was the portable regeneration now it's
like something like portable Energy Conference doesn't
matter. But he was the the main guest one of those sitting on
stage two chairs Kara Swisher type deal. And he really goes
off on the current thinking, which is the Kamala Harris
thinking here. And that kind of steered the conversation quite
abruptly and righteously towards nuclear. A lot of
times, we have to remember he's a huge, huge investor. Yes.
nucular. So whatever he says is tainted. Well, it's a way before
we play this clip. I was thinking about this to all the
anti nuke stuff, we get some notes from one of our producers
that you know, these guys are bone heads, nuke industry, and
we're talking because I asked one that we have a number of
people in the business yes. Including so right out of our
show, and they were gonna tell us Yes, and they're all
befuddled by the two things. One China's building 71 nukes. Yeah.
We don't talk about that in this country and then the medium
media doesn't talk about it out there Gallen meanwhile, France
is shutting theirs down because they're stupid. Germany shut
theirs down. And Germany already shut theirs down. So there's
this is almost as though there's a propaganda thing. Maybe Maybe
it's run by the Chinese to screw us while Trump says about global
warming. He doesn't say it anymore. But he said it long
time ago. He said it was the financial scam that Chinese
could be but no. And the reason I say that is because all you
can get into into Uranium stocks, mining stocks, dirt
cheap. Now, hold on. It's a buyers market,
we got to go back to the to the origin of the problem. China
Syndrome, we need to go to Three Mile Island, we have to look at
Chernobyl. And we have to look at Fukushima. The same thing
that has been happening with this climate change bull crap
has happened to nuclear. And if and to some degree, people were
right, rightfully worried about okay, what happens with this
stuff? Well, and
this stop you again? What about guys like Alex Jones, who's on
you know, spending all his time on Rogen show and doing his
other thing, who's you know, he seems like a reasonable guy
about a lot of this stuff. He's He's anti nuke. Otherwise, oh,
I'm gonna be selling you iodine pills, because Fukushima is
gonna be washing up on the California shores. That's called
a business model as
well, it's pretty insincere. If he asked me, so I can't believe
a word the guy says,
Well, we have always been proponents of nuclear, we see
the benefits. And if you look at a real cost benefit analysis, or
you know, what are SWOT analysis, let's do that one,
strengthen its strength, weakness, opportunity and
threat. Yeah, you know, some of these old gates actually
addresses this in this clip. So I'm just gonna let it play and
that I have two of them, actually. But this is the first
one.
A lot of people are very optimistic. As you know, with
wind and solar, the renewables cost coming down. The battery
costs are coming down. You think that's enough? Or do you
think so? Disappointing. I mean, really? The Vaslav yesterday? He
said, Okay, here's Tokyo, 27 million people, you have three
days of the cyclone, basically, every year, it's 22 gigawatts
rate over three days, you know, tell me what battery solution is
going to sit there and provide that power. I mean, let's not
joke around your multiple orders of magnitude, you know, $100 per
kilowatt hour. That's nothing. That doesn't solve the
reliability problem. And remember, electricity is 25% of
greenhouse gas emissions. Whenever we came up with this
term, clean energy, I think it screwed up people's minds
because they didn't. Now they don't understand. I was at this
conference in New York, I won't name it. And they were saying
all these financial guys got on stage and said, Oh, we're gonna
rate companies in terms of their co2 output. We're gonna say this
company puts out a lot of co2 and financial markets are
magical, and all of a sudden the co2 will stop being emitted. And
I was like, Okay, how do you make steel? Do you do guys on
Wall Street? Do you have something in your desks that
makes steel? What? Where's the fertilizer, cement? Plastic?
Where's it going to come from? Um, you know, two planes flying
through the sky because of some number you put on a spreadsheet.
So the the madness of this so called finance is the solution I
don't get, I just don't get that there is no substitute for how
the industrial economy runs today.
Right. And that's, you know, that's something that we're
always just told about driving electric car, that's all you
need to do drive an electric car, and everything else would
be fine, we won't be using all these fossil fuels. And of
course we are because you can't do all these things that he
spoke about. And here's what he sees in the future,
expensive. In fact, in the US. Nuclear is not even close to
being competitive, it's probably a factor four or five non
competitive, the key parameters in a nuclear Bill bar, how long
it takes to build what your interest rate of your money is,
and maybe some uncertainty factor, whether you get stopped
or not. And so in China, those numbers are basically three to
four years and 2%. Whereas in the US, there may be eight to
nine years 15%, and maybe 50% chance you'll get shut down
before you get started. So when you're competing with super
cheap, natural gas, it there's no way. Also current designs are
although per output, it's the safest form of energy ever
created more than, say, natural gas lines that blow up in
neighborhoods or coal mines that you know, create particulat
That's not good for health IT because it happens in Chernobyl
like events. It it's unfortunate those designs that have high
pressure, and they don't have a good heat pool, and they require
operators to actually look at lights and do things. It's a
pathetic design. And yet, it hasn't been changed. It hasn't
been redone in the digital age, where we can massively simplify
it, make sure there's no pressure anywhere, which force
you to, in our case of sodium pool design, so it's on paper,
which is where it exists in this incredible simulation. This
thing is phenomenal, incredible and and of so called fourth
generation nuclear, it's the only well funded project. Even
so, you know, it requires the US and China to work together.
How's that going? It requires a lot of patient capital. But
nuclear in China is cheaper than cool.
Doha I propose a summit between Bill Gates and AOC. Oh, can you
imagine?
Imagine that? I know Bill well enough. He would walk
away wouldn't he walk right out of the room after after one
minute?
Well, if he ever got in the room, right. But this shift, she
shut up and listened. He might talk to her but that doesn't
seem like even a that's a non starter.
But this is good information he's giving out.
Yeah, I agree. I think maybe that bill could be since he's
been really, you know, he's focused. He's a focused guy. And
he's, I think he's bored stiff with running the Bill and
Melinda Gates Foundation and can let his wife do that. And she
seems to like it. Yeah. And he had to free him up. Because to
be honest about it, he wouldn't mind being you know, roaming
around
not to say no more.
And he could push the the nuclear agenda in a very in a
very powerful way because the guy is seen as you know, this
superstar guru genius. And it might actually it might he might
be the father of modern nucular. I mean you don't
Yes, it either he'll be the father of modern nuclear or
he'll be vacationing with Alan Dershowitz one of the two
would say this he has a he has all the he's got the right he's
got it he's already invested in this in these things and he's
just got he's not stupid got standing wouldn't make a mistake
invest in something lousy and he's always I think this could
this is a positive this is a good clip. These are good clips.
Yes. Well, we are we are pro this idea. And that would be the
no agenda New Deal.
It is a flaw in the in the ointment with the with the green
people. Yeah, the the hatred of nuclear. Well, that's why
remember, this is all projection but you're sick being self
whenever AOC says he's just taking money from Big Oil. I'm
thinking sure maybe you're taking money from Big Oil. Who
the hell knows? Everybody He's taking money from somewhere for
some I don't
know where the money from Big Oil is going but we're not
getting this right
and we're closing the gate on you you can send your checks to
us big oil we're interested in. And with that, I'd like to thank
you for your courage and say in the morning to the man who put
the C and C span three John C.
In the morning you have Mr. Adam curry in the morning almost on
the ground and there's no water at all the days and nights out
there
in the morning to the troll room no agenda stream.com J trolls
happy to see you got a nice big window on my new setup to see
you even better than before I see you there. And in the
morning to what's no agenda stream.com and reminder in the
morning to cesium 137 cz Mizzou one of our artists, we have many
of them, you can check out all the work at no agenda, art
generator.com. And we choose one for the show album art every
single time and this one from Season 137 was the classic
Rosie, we can do it with AOCs head in there. And I have said
I'm sure this has been done. And you're like no no cesium is a
pro artist in this hadn't even been done anywhere that we that
we were able to find.
No I did a search image search. And there was nothing. There was
a lot of variations of that old poster, but there was nothing
with AOCs head
it's really it's well they do check.
I mean, yes, he's a pro. I mean, he may have done it himself
before but you think it would you think somebody would have
done that image?
Check and that's what was interesting about it,
but no, no, he's a he's an original.
Well, we really appreciate one of our guys you're doing that
for a cesium 137 And that was was a truancy booster truancy
crimes for
most are from him and put her reelection campaign using no
ridiculing her.
Okay. That's a no, but I don't know it's I don't know if that's
a good idea. I want her to stay around. I don't want her to do
something stupid.
That wouldn't be stupid.
I think they can get reelected the Oh, okay. Well, the curry
Devorah Consulting Group is available.
She's gonna have trouble getting reelected because they're gonna
go after her.
Someone well,
but you know, she's she's one of those. She is on the boots,
boots on the boots, boots on the ground type that goes into her
district and probably schmoozes a lot. And she can get, you
know, she should be able to get reelected. But she's a bonehead.
If you're new to the no agenda show, and you don't know exactly
how it works. You didn't hear any commercials no live reads
for anything. Oh, my goodness. Do you want to hear something
funny? Want to hear? Uh, let me play again. Before we start with
thanking our executive producers and Associate Executive
producers. This is the pod save the privileged, you know, pod
save the privilege. Its pod save the world, the former Obama
speech writers who have a podcast? Yeah. And I've been
paying attention to their live reads, for their advertising.
See, they don't they're not supported by their audience. No,
they they talk amongst themselves. And I don't think
they give a shit about the audience. But I never really
speak to them. It's just themselves. And we're great. And
we're doing the show and
everybody wants to be a podcaster.
Now you and I have dealt with ad sales departments with
advertisers. Tell me how you would feel if you were the
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that people are like, yeah, they can do it. But can they be
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our our note saying please don't be a dick about it.
I personally I don't think it killed the ad. I don't think
they ruined the ad. I think it added a little depth and I think
they think this too, they add it added some charm. But and I
think Guess what you if you were the guy that did the whoever's
buying the ads for that operation, and I was CNN, you'd
probably make that argument. Yeah. But I would say it as the
advertiser, I don't care if it improved it or not. That's not
what we paid for. Exactly what to make.
Exactly. Make good time. That's what I was thinking to. We
agreed to that. Which fine, maybe it might have worked cute,
but that's not what we paid for.
I agree. We paid for this. And you didn't give us this guess
which
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Straight into an underwear ad. And that ad is horrible. They
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help produce this month. If I could get a goat karma random
numbers. I'll take it. And I just as I just started a new
job. That will entail months of training and testing.
Okay, we'll go karma for you. Good luck with the testing.
You've got karma with a new job I mean, after test Yes.
Alex van Eboli and Bronx New York to Alex Mineva in Bronx New
York. Yeah. To 36 ITM John and Anna first time donor here, I
humbly request to do you spend deed deuced your show has been
an invaluable source of comfort and sanity. I like to do it get
to know the man before him. Alex and wanted to douching and Chris
did so you it's up to you. It works. I'm sorry. Gabriel.
Gabriel didn't want it. Alex did Chris is next Chris Black and
Jamaican Guiana.
Right right there in the in the new oil fields backyard.
Well, he lives a long note. He has this actually a long PS but
I'll read the whole note is long though. I'm procrastinating
longtime listener. First time donor tell me to line up some
Sharpton clips from me and a douchebag clip says it may be a
while again. No, I will go for black night. Thanks for the
dedication and commitment to the show. I produce my own reggae
music podcast. We know that work that goes into it in such
tedious tasks as artwork and metadata. I listened and follow
many creators, so I'm catching up on my donating PS. There's
actually that part was okay. But this is interesting. On a
serious note, I live in Jamaican Guiana. So I appreciate your
taking the time to tune into the mainstream news. I heard Adam
mentioned Ghana a few shows ago and thought it would chime in
about the Venezuela crisis. Yes, we go and 2015 Guiana elected
there Obama who came out of nowhere and is upset the ruling
PPP government if you dig deeper you will see he had training and
education quote unquote, for a couple of years in the United
States awesome guy in Venezuela. Yeah, great. Oh guaido Fast
forward a few years in the US now has access to Briana Jana,
this region and the oil offshore which was not able to do because
of the prior administration has close ties with the Chinese it's
rumored that the Chinese are building a large spy center
inside the currently being constructed embassy. Last
December there's Oh,
that's what embassies are. I know it's nothing new but okay.
Sorry, ma'am. Hey, Deanna. Deanna, we know you're just
coming on the scene and everything. But this is what you
can expect.
Last December, there was no confidence vote. There was a no
confidence vote that ousted the current president, a story which
would seem like something out of a thriller movie, the president
administration would have been taken out of office until the US
stepped in, and the matter has been in court and a total mess.
And to that, populate and add to that the population in Guiana is
about half black and half Indian. So there's a tense
political climate. Then, the other day after no QA after the
no confidence vote Venezuelan warships, intercepted an oil
survey ship operating for Exxon Mobil. in disputed waters. Exxon
suspends the operations the next day. This increased the tensions
between Ghana and Venezuela and Ghana going to the International
Committee is going to the international community for
help. Currently, there's an influx of Venezuelans migrating
to Guiana. I've been traveling to Ghana for six years and I've
never seen the pretense of foreigners going says pretence
as many foreigners going as I see now. So there's a lot to the
situation. Cheers.
All right. Well, we got boots on the ground. So we expect to hear
from you again soon. Chris. This is very good as we do. It's only
there's only you know, it's smaller than Austin. population
wise is what 800,000 people and all Bianna it's not very big.
Yeah. And what did he need? He needed a Sharpton and what would
he say at the top there Sharpton and login Charlottesville?
Put it aside I douche bag and Sharpton clips douche bag or de
douche? No douchebag you will be a wildly for doughnuts. Okay.
Watch captain says he shot the teen and self defense for the
young man was not armed. He was going back home after buying an
iced tea and skillets can no name calling. No incendiary
language. Just the facts. A young man did the salmon says
self defense. What is frowned on the young man skillets and iced
tea Edsp I see. You've got karma.
skillets baby
skillets. So way to go. Was Harrison San Marcos, Texas to
3980. Thank you for all you do. But John, John and Adam I've
been taking taking advantage of your hard work for a long time.
Are you pushing ahead of Saturday's Austin meetup? Are
you okay? It sounds like you're burping. I got the hiccups. Oh,
happens so I don't reek. So I don't reek. Okay, and he's a de
douchey wishing Happy Birthday have a smokin hot hot wife Julie
who turns 39 on Saturday as well. I easily convinced I
easily convinced her to spend the evening celebrating. With
the no agenda community. Wow. You know we had just keep
hitting him in the mouth that is ends when we had to meet we a
little mini meet up in Mississippi. Yeah. And so
there's like, I think eight or nine guys showed up. But there
was actually the older spouses were there. Sure, but they were
none of them was really with the guys. They're all in the back. I
didn't know until they're all leaving. It's It's like what
come up to me. So my husband really likes to show likes to
show and they laughed and whenever one other wife would
come to your house, it was a big fan. My husband's a big fan and
then they will look at this. She left I was just like okay,
well, you know, I mean, so here's why the and this is this
is just what it is the
south, the South, the Southern women. They seem to be less
likely to join in with demand but we
have the no agenda pendants day, which is this coming Saturday?
It is March 2 And that is at the Austin brew works via Austin
Beerworks start at 3:33pm that's in Austin is going to be a
really really big meetup. You can find all the information at
no agenda meetups.com That may be what
a 509 last night. Oh, really?
Oh, gee, I hope it's still up. Here's here's the good news,
Wes. For your smokin hot wife, Julie. Just tell her the MTV guy
will be there. See? That's that's a little benefit. So
anyone who's coming along male or female when they know the MTV
guy All right, yeah, I don't know about that. No agenda show
thing that you listen to husband, wife, whatever. There's
some wives who listen husbands don't. The MTV got ya go off.
I'll talk to him for a second. But the
site's up at the moment. And I ran I was told by me me just go
on the poor guy doing the independent Arlington Virginia
meet up on on March 3, which
is no that's DC girl. That's
a dc dc girl. Was a DC girl is not a guy. It's a girl. Well,
she says you talk to some guy who's worried sick. That is only
going to be nine people showing up. Oh, and I said, Okay, well,
well wait, hold on a second. This is weird because DC girl is
not the guy Mimi's talking to this is a this is a rogue
person. No, no, no, no, no. It's a friend. No, it's a friend of
hers. She I'm looking at the troll room. It's a friend of
hers. Okay, okay, got it. So it's
guys worried sick. Oh, this is not good. I'm gonna plug it
because like this,
where are the spook spooks come out in droves, the third
of March and spy on this command?
We need some time. We just gotta go spot each other since March
3 12 to three. I believe March 3 must be Sunday. Yes, it is. 12
To 320 800 South Randolph Avenue in Arlington. Yes. That's where
I was born South Randolph Avenue in Arlington. I don't know what
the very Cafe PS some Peasy Hola. Hola. Yes,
peasy Hola. Arlington is where I was born. I was
done to do on a Sunday afternoon. And I guess you can
listen to the show. They're gonna be playing that show live.
Oh, cool. In the pizzaiolo Yeah. Yes. Live from the pizza. YOLO
in Arlington.
It's no agenda.
It's very well done. Well pronounced a cated.
Okay, good. Galen. Well, wait,
wait, what is? Certainly we need to do something here for West
don't wait doesn't give him a karma. Karma. You've got karma,
karma karma.
Rob Wales and Concord, West New South Wales, Australia. Well,
that's interesting. He's lives in New South Wales, Australia.
And his name is Wales.
Wow.
That's really interesting.
$201 It's been too long and too much value received for so
little in return. So it's time for me to bring the ledger back
into some semblance of balance. Today, I achieve that second
objective of all producers to become a knight. The first
objective, of course, is to simply to donate I can't claim
like so many seem to do that. I've been a listener since
episode one. But I wasn't with convert and have been. I was
there with the early $2 A month subscriber way back when? That's
pretty close to Episode One. Yeah, I think so like within the
first two years, I think we came with this idea. And by the way,
this is I go off to a little bit on the side here. This is the
one of the things you see are these new newbies that come into
the podcast realm and a podcasting space, the space
space, podcasting space, yes. And they decided they're going
to go listener supported, and they do the math in their heads.
You know, if I can get 200,000 listeners to listen. All I have
to do is ask them for $2 a month. Oh, yeah. This is how
this is how it goes. I will be like two distributors that has
$400,000 a month over it. Oh my god, I'm gonna be rich, $5
million dollars a year.
It's better than blogging.
First of all, $2 is too little A Yeah. If you get 200,000
listeners, if you get 10% of them to give you anything, it's
a miracle, right?
But what percentage of people that we know of actually donate
it's like 1%, maybe one
around 1% by and I do this by reverse calculating the numbers
and the number of people on the mailing list and all the rest of
it.
Because we don't actually know how many people listen, and if
anyone tells you they do the full shit, they just don't it
can't be done. But you can kind of figure it out by doing a
reverse calculation assuming about 1% of the listening
audience may be gives you and they're big supporters, and then
that's where you have to give them leeway. Yes, there are
people out there. And I'm telling you, this is your
lecture to the podcasters who think that they're gonna get by
with $2 a month. We dropped it $2 A month thing after
after. After a week I think we went
to $4 a week or higher, but it's because people if they get any
if they get any benefits from the show, they see See the
value. And they'll give you more than that. And if some of them
have money, they really have a lot of expendable income. And
they will. There'll be very generous and you want to
encourage that. You don't want to discourage it, which is what
you do. I'm talking to podcasters is what you do is
dollar a month dollar amount Japan,
you use chip in on the email this time I liked it huge chip,
and
I did it on purpose.
How did it work?
It didn't do much.
We were going back and forth on email said, Oh, man, you use
chip in great he says yes, maybe it's magical. Well, no. Turns
out no magic.
Well, you're using all the pros are using it. I'm not saying the
pros, but just just the real pros. I'm talking about the
Yeah, the pros, the guys who run the run the emails, emails for
everybody. Yeah,
yeah, they do it, it's always the same people, you can tell
the writing is the same. But there's a red, there's a
critical there's a critical element. John's a critical
element. And it's what we're doing right now. We have always
thanked people. And we because there's became too much for the
show that was more thanks than show, we made certain cut offs.
And we made certain decisions. And we we bring our executive
and Associate Executive Producers forward at an earlier
segment. But not only do we allow people to communicate
through numerology, which is really the main thing, the all
these numbers have a meaning. I mean, if Tina and I talked about
this a lot, you know, because she has, you know, she Ronald
McDonald House says, you know, 510 2050 100 other, and I look
at our list 315 15 311. These are all messages. It's all a
part of something that people want to communicate with
numbers. And we we read it. It's the most transparent, it's it
makes everyone feel good. There's content in here, which,
which makes people want to listen to it. Yeah, there's a
little drop off. But people like to listen to what other people
have to say.
It's interesting. Thank you. It's continue reading this note.
So we don't go on and on about this. I just want to I'm just
it's just a message to the people in trying to do well on
podcasting. I gave up on twit long before John did and even
got a few DSC episodes in before Adam gave up on that. By the
way, Adam, whatever happened to that gold break.
It's a bad story, man. I didn't pay you don't want to ask. I
really don't want to ask. Don't ask about the BRIC.
If I use the Aussie dollars dollar ruse as my gauge I'd have
been a night some time ago. See? But in that we give me we're
giving him a knighthood today. Of course, of course, the
world's default currency. It's now for real to make it worse. I
actually lose three cents $1 on the current mid exchange raise.
Thanks pretty much. Oh, thanks to pay. Thanks. Pay, pal. Pete
Sorry. Please Knight me sir Rob of the Great Southern land. And
for the Roundtable. I'm unhappy with anything that has to do
with drugs, food, alcohol or sex. So that's pretty much
everything on the list. You who don't show it, you, you maybe
it's Simpsons call
now. Because you need anything because you need the crew here.
who'd love to visit John won't leave his hideout overlooking
the Golden Gate fields. So Adam, get your finger out and get down
under I can show you a fantastic day sailing on Sydney Harbour.
Ah,
that sounds great. Yeah, yeah. Well, after we move, we gotta
you know, hey, we got approved for for our slave mortgage.
Yeah, I bet you did.
It wasn't that easy. Believe me. So Taylor, huge
balloon.
So, Mr. Curry, explain again, how you make money. And what
huh? Yeah, that was that was fun.
Yeah. So after we after all that, and I'm guessing that
without Tina, this would not have happened? Hell no.
No, we bought it together as a real job. Yes, she has a real
job has real money and as a real woman, I don't know why she puts
up with it. All right.
Kevin Silverman. Our is our last Associate Executive Producer
$2.20 For people keeping track. This donation is coming out of
my last paycheck from the US Navy as I'm retiring on February
28 After a 20 year enlistment wow, I was fortunate to
experience quite a lot in my time. I work in a submarine ah,
we got another substitute water guy here you go. We're gonna
submarine and a destroyer. I guess he's doing something. Who
knows? What does it say? Deployments around the country
around the world and meeting the strangest and coolest people
from now I'll be intentionally unemployed while I sleep late.
Avoid traffic jams and play shows around Baltimore with my
band. Cyber strike. I'm sure I'll need some jobs karma later
on. And I run out of money but in the meantime please pass on
some karma to all the military men and women who are still in
harm's way around the world. Also some karma to John and Adam
to keep the best podcast in the universe going until they
actually can't talk anymore. Jade goals are Webalizer dealer
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committee
you've got karma
that's our Associate Executive producers and executive
producers for show 1116 them for keeping the show alive.
I think I have to make goods I'm not sure about sir Baron sir JD
from silicon Silicon Valley.
I have his note here. Okay, well, you want to just read it
because I feel like maybe it's come from the wrong game as you
can say is when he got into vortex people do this remind
everybody This can happen to anyone Yes. And vertex is where
you get into a back and forth with one of the two of us to get
some read never gets read and then we forget about it and it
doesn't get read again it's a horrible black hole goes on for
a good go on for months it could yes it's very good it's happened
has gone on for months with certain people Yeah, Adam thanks
for the note Lovely to see you and keep are surviving the
frozen tundra of the of the Midwest but it's just for the
cut off a few minutes before the cut off of the show. But hey, a
busy show lots of donations. No biggie I should have sent it in
earlier, but still no credit for show 1112 EC he sent some money
and for sure. 1111 Yes, he did. Then he did he got bumped. Then
I sent this no before 1114 Still nothing not trying to be a big
complaining baby. But dudes helped me figure out how this
ends up being a positive thing for the show and good karma back
to me was an entertaining anecdote read by John from the
classic chaise lounge and a man of the street interview near the
Leaning Tower please credit me for some show soon. This was
this was this was a 3339 donation so clearly an executive
and maybe you put them on today. Yes of course. I don't know what
happened. Back to the show notes for 1111 It would be nice he
wants to get word out for a simultaneous meet up in aw yeah
you get here's what happened your note went into the meetup
pile and then Adam said I don't want another meetup and that was
you got stuck in the vortex Yeah. I was trying to pass back
some value for value and say that karma does work see message
below then he has one of his other messages he's got a lot of
notes and and then the
messages I asked for some jobs comment back towards the end of
2018 and again in January just as I was wrapping up a couple of
V's V Cisco whatever that is consulting contracts needed to
start planning for a new gig the power of the no agenda nation
came through again last week I joined Malwarebytes one of the
rising cyber li cyber outfits in the valley that is doing nice
good for the people and doing great business what are they
what are they about cyber bites? I'm not wearing by smell were
male
or Malwarebytes is one of the two main spyhunter being the
other one that was used by us Spy Hunter Pro I don't use
Malwarebytes anymore because I'm careful. I'm just starting just
starting I use Spy Hunter because it's I started off to
get some very strange infection that was a hijacking my browser
and everybody was saying they could see it that way you got to
take it out by hand you got to do this then nobody could fix
it. And then when they tried to hand fix it you could you
couldn't get rid of it was really a dynamite product in
terms of like being corrupt corrupting your system spyhunter
did it they fixed it and I was clean. So then I still use
Malwarebytes once in a while for other things because they these
things none of these no to do everything the same. Not exactly
the same recently though I put Malwarebytes to work on
something and it corrupted and erased my spyware. My spyhunter
500 saw
it as a spyware. It is out.
I saw I reinstall and get erased it again. And so I called the
customer support, which they do have it spyhunter and I'm
putting malware. Oh yeah. Well, yeah, they've been they've been
racing our program. Well, that's unacceptable. Right so it says
Now JDS there. Yeah. Now we don't know. Now we have to go
try out the products again that he would fix that issue because
it's not it's not acceptable to erase a competitor's product?
Well, depends from an investor standpoint is dynamite.
Well, it's a funny idea.
I thought it was funny. Well, it technically is spyware, not
malware, but spying on you. They're all spying anyway, which
you're preparing sir JD of Silicon Valley. Apologies. I
hope we've made up for this. Congratulations on the new gig.
And
then I would say this we would instead of doing this
separately, we have to organize another Bay Area meet up and
make and he'll be big part of it because he showed up at the last
one with an offer of doing dollar for dollar.
Which match match.
He doesn't have to do that.
No, of course not. Of course. Well, he's he's big Silicon
Valley guy.
He's a good guy. And he has a lot of charming guy. That's a
good element of the especially amongst the dudes named Ben.
All right, yes. One other make good, which was kind of, well,
we could have seen this coming. But you know, this was when I
was in Iowa was 11 degrees. Taco from Den Dolder. Now he donated
$1,000 To the last show, and he was an instant night. But
instead of saying I'm a night, his and he's from Holland, so he
kind of did a Dutch thing by saying, hey, with this nightly
donation, you know, et cetera, et cetera, so no one really
caught it that that was a 90
Well, I did say something I said, Well, he's got nothing
here. I didn't
Yeah, well, you know, I didn't catch it either. So anyway, he
wants to be knighted Sir sir. Taki His name is Taco from Den
Dolder. So sir taki definitely and he wanted he want he wanted
to he wanted to hear respect. So I'll give him a quick respect
under karma
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That will be a report from the big no agenda pendants the Texas
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support us at avora.org/and A now if you're a podcaster and
you know how to do it go out and propagate our formula is this we
go out we get people in the mouth
a couple of things first of all in the Iowa meetup How did they
think Do we have a process for donating to the show in person
which is to put them whatever a cheque or whatever you want to
put in an envelope with the note with your name and an address
the process then you put it in an envelope and then hand the
envelope over how did that work there because that worked
extremely well I think there was only one donation that that had
cash in it that had no name everyone else had their name on
it I think we I think we got everybody envelopes or somebody
just gave no all envelopes all envelope I think every everyone
got it it's really just for practicality but also you know
people have all kinds of if you have some cool stuff and I love
you know challenge coins stuff people have made you know put it
in something you can get gifts put it in something you can
close up again. So we can take it to we can take it back and I
can reuse the envelope to send his John's his his portion of
it.
can use the envelope.
Yeah, I don't know who hasn't who has an envelope for like,
pouches. Yeah, well, you should send me some of the stuff that
comes into the PIO box then
well it's usually just gonna fall through the air but I made
a mean to Okay, I just wanted to know how that was working out
because it's it's a protocol that needs to be
repeated, repeated, repeated now it worked out really well. And,
and I want to talk big bring surge ad back into it. I believe
that the Austin meetup will maybe be the biggest, most
important meetup we've had. Its longtime coming, that's for
sure. Because of the Texans and all their grousing and we
have celebrity guests to the keeper. We have surge gene. We
have Eric to shield was going to be there. It's going to be a
Hootenanny
now, so the My point is that we need to do another meetup in the
Bay Area to top it. Oh, sir. JD Nice to be thinking about that.
There's just no way you guys can compete with Texas. Come on No
way. I'm gonna happen
like you're probably beach in LA. All right, what else you
got?
Well, a number of things. Let me see. Well,
this guy, let me start with a couple of things. There's a
couple of the for one thing, let's get to India Pakistan
thing.
Yeah, that's definitely something we need to talk about
because no one else is
now it looks like a horrible threatening thing they brought
an expert on one of these professors instead of just your
normal talking is some guy who actually knows what he's talking
about as a Pakistani professor or writer. And he gives them a
good introduction here on myocracy. Now, and he shows he
says, what the problem what's going on here? It's a rather Why
did we why cuz it's really not newsworthy. If you think about
it in these terms.
We had producers write in and say similar stuff. So I'm very
curious about this. What is this from again,
Democracy Now.
We're joined right now by Xeomin, Pakistan, Pakistani born
physicist, nuclear expert and disarmament activist. He's co
director of the program on science and global security at
the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs
at Princeton University. Professor Mian is co author of
unmaking the bomb of fissile material approach to nuclear
disarmament and Non Proliferation. Professor cmin
Welcome to Democracy Now, can you respond to this latest
escalation? While there's this split screen between Michael
Cohen and North Korea, the summit in Vietnam, you have this
very serious escalation between two nuclear powers India and
Pakistan?
The escalation in fighting between India and Pakistan is a
grave source of concern for people all over the world. But
it's part of a larger an ongoing crisis that surges into the news
every so often. And so for many people, including those in the
United States, this is something that they've seen before. And so
they don't expect it necessarily to escalate into an all out war
with the kind of catastrophic implications that we expect war
between nuclear armed states to have.
Professor Mian, could you talk about the February 14 attack
that occurred inside of Indian administered Kashmir and the
suppose reason by the group known as J M that that claimed
responsibility?
The Jaish e Muhammad, which is translated as the army of
Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam has goes back to 2000. It's a
radical Sunni militant group that has been fighting with
support from the Pakistani army and its intelligence service isI
against India in Kashmir ever since then, and has launched
many, many attacks into Indian Kashmir and even into India
proper. So this is just the most recent of a long line of attacks
by Joshi, Muhammad. But the larger issue I think, is not
this one particular attack and how Narendra Modi's Hindu
nationalist government in Delhi has tried to respond to it, to
show that it's strong because they're having an election in
India and
it's a classic, a classic move,
total classic. When he joins us, he said the election I said, Oh,
we do this all the time. Yeah, this is what we do. This is the
United States play
question. And this is gonna sound uneducated, witness the
MTV guy. What is the core beef between India and Pakistan?
They hate each other.
Okay. Is it religion? Is it just the Kashmir loser's aspect
to this Muslims versus Hindus? They don't get along.
Is that the core? I mean? That's the core reason,
I think so it's kind of the core reason I think culturally they
don't get alignment. For example, there's cultural
differences between these these groups that are made so they
just like the Germans and the French you know, that are
like each other Flemish and the Walloons.
Yeah, similar. Now I had a I have a little tip for people who
like
or maybe it's Windows versus Mac, iOS versus Android. I
think it's a little more extreme than that. But it could be but
those guys are pretty bad. The if you're gonna buy basmati rice
here's I'm not saying this to insult any Indians, the non
donating Indians donating zero donating and I don't want to
insult any Indians. But if you're gonna buy bas Mati rice,
always by the way, fun FA W en brand is absolutely the best.
But if you're gonna buy basmati rice, always buy Pakistani by
Pakistan,
you're asking for it now. You're asking for it. Now, if you
have a choice, you bypass that Pakistani. And if you'd have a
real choice, you get fun and fade wn. Now, why why?
Why John? Why is this? What is it about the Pakistani basmati
rice that kicks ass over the Indian knees?
It's a million times cleaner. Oh, mighty rice needs to be
washed. Yeah, washed out. And if you don't it with the Pakistani
rice, it's just not as
hot. Wait, stop. So just like we know that the whole Middle East
problem is really about who makes better hummus. Are you
telling me that the India Pakistan conflict really is
about whose basmati rice is better?
Well, to me it is but I'm sure there's more to and wouldn't
support this guy this this professor does. Does continue
with another little bit. Here's only 40 seconds, but it's he
does do his real complaint. And I think this is is a complaint
that needs to be made. We might as well play it out.
The real issue that we need to talk about is the fact that this
level of violence between India and Pakistan has continued for a
very, very long time, and that it's not so much the military on
military violence. But the fact that large numbers of civilians
along the Line of Control that divide, Indian Kashmir and
Pakistani Kashmir are caught in this endless barrage of
artillery and firing across that which claimed civilian
casualties on a regular basis. And also the fact that no one
seems interested in thinking about what the future of this
conflict and these people trapped in Kashmir between these
two states determined to resolve their issues by force. I mean,
what's the future going to be like for these people?
Yeah, just a bunch of innocents in the middle yet and killed
currently.
Right. Right. Well, that's been that way ever since I've been on
this earth as far as I can remember. It's always been that
way. We were always at war with Eurasia. I like the basmati rice
theory, though.
Tell you about the basmati Yeah, makes a lot of sense. So it has
a little to do with halaal. And their their rules about
cleanliness. And
we do need to remember that China has a lot of money
invested in Pakistan that Pakistan camp at Camp pay back
Pakistan just got 20 billion from Saudi Arabia from NBS
himself.
Yeah, that's, that's, that's our donation. I'm sure of it.
Well, yes, that's Trump saying, hey, get in there, get working
on it. We can't have these Chinese taken over everything.
So probably 20 part of the 20 billion is, you know, goes off
to satisfy some interest or this this stuff going on. But you got
to keep your eye on China because they really there's
Pakistan is a big part of their plan. If you remember the three
belt no road VRI syndrome.
Talking about China. I have one of the Huawei executives at the
moon world mobile conference Ah,
one of our producers is boots on the ground he said there's
really it's kind of debt this year he says there's no real
cool 5g demos
are supposed to be all 5g From what
he's Yeah, he says it's like kind of boring. These The most
exciting thing was the brave browser. People are there and he
was propagating the no agenda formula at them. But he said,
people just walking around in a daze. There's nothing there's no
real cool demos.
I mean, it doesn't surprise me. But but let's listen to what
would the Huawei guy, very erudite character, because the
Chinese don't trust anybody I guess except their own in these
at this level. And so he has a two part two clips from him.
Ladies
and the gentlemen, good morning. Hello. It's great to see your
again.
I love it when these guys come in and do their English versions
of their little show. Because you got to listen really
closely.
There has never been more interested in Poway. We must be
doing something right. Huawei is leading in 5g corroboree. But we
understand innovation is nothing without security. Let me say
this as clear as possible. Huawei has not and will never
prompt backdoors and we will never allow anyone to do so in
our equipment. We take this responsibility very seriously.
Poway has a strong check record in security for three decades,
serving 3 billion people around the world. The US security
accusation on our 5g has no evidence, nothing last month,
and Zillow published the ellepot saying that power is 5g is 20
times faster than the so called 5g in the United States that's
in their fear. The test in commercial use is not 10 times
faster, but it's still much, much faster.
That's how he started his whole keynote.
That what was yes. And what was this is 20 times faster, but
it's not 20 times faster in
commercial applications. You said it's not faster, it's just
faster. And he's pronouncing his company wrong. It's not Huawei.
It's WaPo bla bla bla bla patient, no better. It's not
Huawei. your country, your company's name is WaPo. Boy.
So I thought it was amusing. It just is rambling there. But this
this is the second half of it.
I fully understand that what President Donald Trump said last
week, the United States needs power, powerful, faster and the
smarter 5g.
Yeah, we do. I guess we need we need powerful, more faster 5g?
No, I'm not so sure. Well, it's I'm torn now which direction to
go. I think I'll stick here for a second, just on the 5g for a
moment. To be clear, for purposes of our show. 5g, the
protocol is uninteresting. It's just a brand name. What's really
an issue is the high frequencies there'll be broadcasting on or
trans. They'll transmissions because it's receive and send
and the amount of power. So when you're talking the in the US I
believe it's the 29 gigahertz, maybe the 2424 gigahertz band
that gets into a territory that you just 60 Yeah, but the first
auction was 24 gigahertz. That's a place where you want to be a
little bit careful. And besides that, just the entire spy grid
that becomes possible is something that may not be
desirable. Although if you listen to the Wall Street
Journal, and their special mobile Congress, promotion of
5g, the benefits will just be astounding. What can 5g actually
do? And they have some Brit guy for some reason Doing this
will be 100 times faster than current mobile wireless networks
called 4g.
Are you writing it down? John just write down all the benefits
times faster, 100 times faster, so that you can watch a movie in
10 minutes. It's fantastic. It's I mean, you can listen to this
show it while you're in the shower the whole show because of
the 5g It's so fast it
could replace your cable service with wireless broadband as fast
as fiber
that's actually something that people don't talk about a lot
but the capability for over the top television distribution I
think there's a lot of people looking to jump into that game.
Yeah, stop with with this right away. First of all, to get into
the house. These frequencies it's very hard for them to
penetrate a piece of paint now you're
gonna window units and wall units and stuff like that.
That's that's
they have to capture it somehow and then beam it into the house
and go units, which is what you don't want. But okay, because
but you did other ways to get it. You can get into the house,
if you crank up the amps. You can connect force force it
through. Yeah.
Crank up the Watts I think is what you're saying.
If you know I'm thinking of the amps. And so you have you go
through the glass, you know what, it actually doesn't go
through glass that 6060 6060 terahertz or what we're talking
about these milli millimeter waves. They don't like to go
through a lot of stuff but but they can be forced into it if
you crank it up.
Oh, yeah, it can good. They can go through a bit Sure. But I
it's watts not amps. Why you say amps.
You need the amps to get the get the de Watts Up there. Okay, all
right. Fair enough to power the real power is in the amperage?
Yeah, but remember I am a licensed amateur radio
professional as a general class.
Yeah, well it would be at the at the head end it would be a what
it'd be like instead of a one watt sending device would be up
to 54 Yeah, there's there's tight what is it? What is a
radio station? What's the big 550 1000 watts? Is that the
maximum United States we can have
you still listen to radio?
Yeah. Car transmitters? We
don't need no transmitters? Yeah. 50k Watt. That's that's
pretty much
it. Yeah. 50,000 watts. Okay, we can put 50,000 watts at a
telephone pole. But you need the amps to get those watts. I'd say
amps. I think it means power more.
I know. I know what you're saying. Okay, so onward with the
benefits of 5g Because there's got to be something in here that
we I mean, so far,
we're missing something because already I'm happy Kids around
the table. They're on the phone all the time. And they're doing
research on the fly as we have a dinner conversation. Yes. So
they're on the wiki page. And they're reading from the wiki
pages and they're and they're showing YouTube videos on the on
the little phone. Yeah, you can't they they download and
watch shows I can see them now what is going to be faster? You
can watch, you'll be able to see
the YouTube video in shorter time.
The carriers configure the costs out, it will also add capacity
for millions more devices. Something required this is
yeah, that was it right there.
Oh, yeah. The millet? Well, it's part of it the millions more
devices, which is not really a consumer benefit, but you're
going to be told it is because then, you know, you know, we're
we're in the market for a fridge. Oh, my God, the amount
of smart fridges that are being? I mean, who the Who wants this?
I don't know. Why would you want a smart fridge is going to crap
out earlier, I
don't see the growth of smart
cities connected homes and the smart cities, which means
they're tracking you to figure out what you're doing
internet of things. And it's another thing that gets the
people I've spoken to the most excited Oh, are you ready, and
that's latency.
Oh my goodness. The L Word he brought in the latency. I'm
excited.
Let me use a demonstration from Nokia to explain. The robots
here are talking to each other wirelessly and are tasked with
bouncing a ball in the center of the tray. The demo first shows
them doing it with 4g. And then again with 5g, the time it takes
is reduced from 11 seconds to just three seconds with 5g,
those tiny reaction speeds that experts say will make way for a
whole range of exciting use. Oh tell
me, devices might come into play like you could have glasses
finally make it Oh, so stupid glasses will finally make it
connected cars connected cars, autonomous vehicles will
generate a lot of data. A lot of data, a lot of data has to be
processed at the edge. And that's where 5g can play a
significant role we got to
do processing at the edge, I can see why we're all excited.
VR is another area where you don't have to be connected to a
wire to experience something in one benchmark for any new
generation is probably when Apple launched the iPhone. The
progress with 5g in terms of devices will probably come in
2020
It will take some time for 5g to get here. But if history is
anything to go by being first will matter for the economy,
the likes of Uber and Lyft. And Facebook advertising and YouTube
Advertising were born out of 4g and LTE. The hope is that if US
takes an early lead, the ecosystem will continue to
thrive and even grow stronger with the emergence of 5g.
Okay, well, you did not convinced me Wall Street
Journal, other than frying my brain and tracking me more. I'm
not that interested in your 5g. Of course, my 3g e 71 will get
shut off eventually. Oh, yeah, you'd be gonna go to 4g? They're
gonna turn that off. Maybe
I still think 5g is going to be a bust. Because I don't think
that people are going to want to put a millimeter wave device
against their head.
I don't think they'll know. And I don't think they'll care.
Well, it's because I know there's enough I want to put it
against my head.
I know. But you know, they get the word out. No, no,
no, you you're you're
it's just no defeatist. No, no, not a defeatist. It's just I go
approach it from a different angle, I will give you my final
OTG strategy. So people understand what it is to go off
the grid. I have two devices in my life. On a on a continuing
basis. One is the Nokia eight
MIGUEZ. One is that little phone. Yes. The
Nokia was a vibrator. Yeah, you are on the ball. So I have three
devices in my life. Now I have the Nokia II 71, which I use
only for text messaging. And I used to be oh, I can do a quick
email because you can get IMAP email on it. No, I can even open
a Word doc, I don't do any of that anymore. I don't care. For
me, there is no reason whatsoever to be connected
anymore. I don't care. Once I once I stopped caring about it.
Like I'll be back in an hour I'll be talking to the
converted. I know but there's more people out there who want
to know how it works. And it it took a little while because I
had to reverse a lot of behaviors and this thinking that
oh, so important to know what's going on. It's so important.
Anywhere you stop anywhere people are not mobile for a
second boom, the phones are out and you just see it and it's
rampant and it's sick and you're not well is sick. It's sick. It
really and everyone's doing it so you don't really notice it
until you stop doing it. And the way to do it is through pain.
The pain is you can't do it. You just can't get anything done.
Even to a certain point. Tina is texting me. I'm texting back. I
can't keep up. I got this physical keyboard I call her
Hey, how about that? So let's talk for a second. And it's,
it's very nice. So as a part of your OTG strategy, you do need
something else. And for that, I have the surface go, a very
inexpensive, very small device, it's the size of my original
iPad, I have a nice little, a beautiful little case that it
goes into and I have a hotspot, I think you can get the surface
go with. Now with LTE don't get that what you want is you want
to be disconnected. If I really, really, really need to get
something, the pain of turning on the dongle, the hotspot,
firing up the little computer and then doing whatever I need
to do. That becomes a choice of Do I really need to do this? Can
I do this later is of utmost importance. When it's really
easy to do, you will do it you have to pain yourself. And how
long have I been doing this six months? Would you sign girl Oh,
no longer really. I'm cured. I am completely cured. And I love
it. I can even pick up an iPhone now and just do something to get
it out of there, whatever and put it back down. notifications
aren't in my life anymore, except for one sound from my
phone. And that's only a handful of people, including you. And
you called me the other day that was surprised like the phone's
ringing. So that is the strategy when people say what phone
should I get? Oh, I can get the little the the one that is
completely built on open standards, Linux hardware
switches, you're still going to be distracted and looking at
your phone. When you could be looking at other people looking
at their phones. It's a lot more fun. It's fun. It's fun. It's so
it's really great. Because I'm going to be candid, you feel
superior.
Do you dwell that's your goal in life. You just
feel superior? Yes. That's my exit strategy. All right.
Yeah, I'm reminded I like you remember a couple, not last
Christmas for the one before we went to Thanksgiving went to
London. So I take a lot of photos. When you have a real
camera. I use a real camera to take photos. Yeah, so I was
taking some photos, I was looking over some of these old
photos looking for something I could blow up to a huge size,
which is what I do. And so I'm looking at these photos taken
inside the tube is. So I had two groups I had I had some photos
that I took on one of the platforms, a probably from about
10 years ago, I was in London for the bookfair or something
and I used tic tac took some pictures of the platform,
there's a bunch of people standing around, you know, and
they're just standing around there and then
reading the paper, maybe even reading the paper held up in
front of their face. They weren't even
doing that they were looking around. And I took a picture
this last time I was there and everybody standing at the
platform. If somebody came in with a machine would look.
You're all looking at the little phones, all of them.
Yeah. And it's sad. Because, like, we were flying. So when
the plane lands. Everyone except for me does the same thing.
Phone comes out. Everyone and I Oh, I love standing up as soon
as I can to get the carry on. But I spend my time looking at
what everyone I'm looking over their shoulders, looking at what
their lens like Twitter, Facebook, you know, texting
three different people at the same time back and forth between
windows? It's just I don't know, I don't think it's an
improvement to your quality of life.
I don't think it's healthy when the whole plane lights up. No.
So I don't want to stay with brown people and yellow people
for a second. Sticking with China. Then negotiate the trade
negotiations continue. The President has said he will
postpone the increase in tariffs from 20 to 25% on Chinese
imports, and they were doing one of those Trumpian news
conferences where the press is there and he had his team, his
negotiating team. And Bob was it was it Bob? Forget Bob Bob's one
of the top negotiators. He said something and the President just
slapped him down and this guy key whimpered off like a little
bit. It was great. I don't
like emojis because they don't mean anything to me. They don't
mean anything. I think you're better off just going into a
document. I was never never a fan of an MOU.
So So Trump does and I don't like mo use either. It's like an
LOI letter of Letter of Intent memorandum of understanding.
It's basically people who just don't agree with you yet. And
then well, we're kind of we're agreeing to agree and we'll do
something. And so Trump said I don't like I don't like those.
That was some question from the press. Then Bob jumps in. He's
going to explain what an MOU is.
terms, an MOU is a contract. It's the way trade agreements
are generally used. People refer to it like it's a term sheet.
It's not a term sheet. It's an actual contract between the two
parties. A memorandum of understanding is a binding
agreement between two people. And that's what we're talking
about. It's detailed and covers everything in great detail. It's
just called a memorandum of understanding is the legal term,
it's a contract, and
would you look at that would be a very long term deal, sir.
Contracts lasts while they last. There's no term. They last while
they last. Mister,
by the way, I disagree. I think that a Memorandum of
Understanding is not a contract. And to the extent that we want,
we're going to have we're doing a memorandum of understanding
that will be put into a final contract, I assume. But to me,
the final contract is really the thing, Bob, and I think you mean
that to is really the thing that meant something, a Memorandum of
Understanding is exactly that. It's a memorandum of what our
understanding is. But to me the contract is, the real question
is about so we do a memorandum of understanding which frankly,
you could do or not do I don't care if you do it or not. I
mean, it doesn't mean very much. But if you do a memorandum How
long will it take to put that into a final binding contract?
What
from now on? We're not using the word Memorandum of Understanding
anymore. Use the term trade agreement. All right. Never use
the term we'll have the second document is going to be called a
trade agreement. We're never going to use MOU again. Are they
going to put
what a little what a little whiny bitch? We never gonna use
the term memory and I mean, exactly.
Well, yeah. I have some thoughts about this meeting. You want to
play that I have a background here that democracy now put
together Trump in Vietnam?
I this I don't this is I don't want to go to Vietnam yet. First
of all, we need to take a break in a minute. But weren't you
just in Vietnam? That was China? The Chinese trade negotiations?
Okay, sorry.
That makes sense. All right. So same thing well
connected. Let's talk about some other brown people. Venezuela.
Wow. They are trying all the tricks. Anything we can do to
justify going in and taking everyone's oil and putting
guaido on the on the pedestal. Here's Sean Hannity.
It's a fox news alert as we continue reporting tonight from
Hanoi, Vietnam, Jorge Ramos, six other Univision staffers
detained at the presidential palace in Venezuela. This
allegedly occurred after an interview with the Venezuelan
dictator, Nicolas Maduro, according to reports, Maduro
didn't like the line of questioning. So he ended the
interview, confiscated the equipment, and had Ramos along
with his colleagues arrested. We do have an update, thankfully,
thankfully, three hours later, the group was released. We'll
continue to monitor this disturbing story, but I gotta
tell you, you know what, I don't agree with war and a lot of
issues. He's an American,
Jorge Ramos is controlled opposition for Fox News. I mean,
the guy is only on Fox News. Always use Univision of course,
but he's always the opposition. Now you don't know what you're
talking about Nana, and now that you use him in this so called
they they took him captive, and they took his interview away
because this guy says,
put it on Craigslist.
Exactly. I smell a rat. That is a very typical tactic that's
almost like you know, shooting down some plane in in cashmere.
But then the final thing as we go to white people is
Scandinavia. This all this,
going short on this, this is a big deal. It's
a huge deal. And it's it's very hard to get clips of it, because
it's been going on for a long time. I think I can summarize
it. This company, is it SNC levelin, I believe. I don't even
know what they do. But they they broke some rules. And
essentially, Trudeau put all the screws to the Attorney General
to not have them be prosecuted things called the delayed
prosecution or some some term like that. And eventually, the
Attorney General got pushed out. And now she's out saying, let me
just tell you how this went down and Trudeau is really is being
implicated in being a corrupt bugger. Here's a quick clip I
have. This is the Conservative leader Andrew Scheer. And he of
course, is taking advantage of this politically.
Justin Trudeau simply cannot continue to govern this country
now that Canadians know what he has done. And that is why I'm
calling on Mr. Trudeau to do the right thing. And to resign.
Further, the RCMP must immediately open an
investigation, if it has not already done so. Into the
numerous examples of obstruction of justice, the former Attorney
General detailed in her testimony.
So s&c levelin is a contracting company like Halliburton, and
they apparently committed human rights, crimes in Libya. Didn't
even know the cat that conduct candid Avians we're building in
Libya, everyone's in on these deals, just as rotten as we are.
And so it's pretty funny, because I think this may end
Troodos career,
I think it has to, and what is he thinking? What the hell. And
by the way, you know,
what this is gonna be, we have to really dig a little deeper to
our
camp to our candidate, avian producers, what is not helpful
is sending us half hour and say, hey, it's all in here. It can't
be six minutes. So we have to figure out a way to tell the
stories in shorter, shorter sound bites, because it's and
this is the problem I have I just trying to get the Attorney
General she has a list of like 10 things, it takes her 25
minutes to really explain the whole situation. But I think
that's in a nutshell. That's it human rights violations. The
company is supposed to get their ass handed to them. And
everyone's lobbying for it not to happen, including Trudeau,
who eventually pushes out the Attorney General, who has been
pressing for the charges or word for the prosecution, and he
wants it to be delayed and this gotta be money and donors and
other kinds of stuff involved.
It's definitely a big deal.
Yes. So we would like to know more and that is also part of
your jobs as producers.
I'm going to show my son moved by donation to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be
fun.
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That's my rant. Nailed it.
Now, I think they made a deal that they can't get anywhere
with Bolton and the other guy or Deli.
No. Bolton or Pompeo, Pompeo
pompous pompous. Pompeo Yeah. So because those two guys go in
there and muck up the works because they're both Neo cons
they hate the country. And they're just trying to they
don't they want they're part of the industrial complex that
wants to keep selling arms to South Korea. Yes. And so you
know if we're going to make good friends with the North Korean
guy, it's gonna hurt business so they there's so they go in there
screw things up and then Trump is stuck with whatever happens.
So he goes in there and nothing but he does make it does this.
There's a subtlety to this because both to Two things
happened that really you're going to put a stop to a lot of
this one, Trump says we're not gonna do any more of these
exercises with the South Koreans. And his issues was
because it's a waste of money. The real excuse, of course, is
because Kim Jong Hoon hates these things. He thinks that
just provocations. So they're going to stop that and but it's
going to be the excuse is going to be a waste of money. So
nobody cares about that. I'm sure Trump had to talk them into
that. The second thing is, Kim is going to stop testing stuff.
And that's, that's a plus for us. So so the these we got that
far. And that's as far as we're gonna get, this should also end
the war. But somebody pointed out that the real thing here is
going on again, this arms sales are so important, right? So much
money being lost, and this thing to get all together and turn
into a tourist trap. But somebody pointed out that the
South Koreans want to do something other than be under
our thumb insofar as us making them spend money. And that's why
they keep using the phrase that you've heard it the
denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Yes. They don't say
that North Korea No, they
don't say North Korea. You're absolutely right.
They always say the peninsula is because we've got a bunch of
atomic weapons in South Korea, they want them out. They're
dangerous. So we are again, it would be a joint effort then.
Well, it's never going to happen if you have these two creeps.
Yeah, the the arm sales, creep and den Bolton. Why is Bolton
even in the White House? You all this? When Trump ran? He's
bitching and moaning about all this stuff. And then he brings
this creep into the White House to be the national security
adviser. Why don't you either we're gonna shoot you and your
family or you had to put Bolton in? Is that what it was? Again?
I think it's the weird sex stuff. They're all involved in
that.
Oh, I think Trump's involved in the weird sex stuff it to the
point where he were he's gonna bring you have to ask. Yes, I
think in there. Yeah.
I think in the early days of Ray, Roy Cohn. I'm gonna have to
add Roger Stone in there. And I'm gonna Yes, I think there
were some weird sex stuff going on.
So, so that's we're going back to your old thesis, which I'm
going to reiterate for people who are unfamiliar with this.
There is a huge blackmailing operations going on amongst a
bunch of sexual perverts deviance, and I use that word
advisedly. I know what it means. I know it has negative
implications, but there's a there's a blackmailing scheme
that goes on is and once everybody's in on it, then do
what you're told or you're going to be exposed as some sort of a
creep.
Well, for instance, the and Alex Jones came up with this and I
think it was kind of an interesting thought. So he says
that these you know, the fact that the Senate wouldn't even
pass a bill that said hey, you can't kill a baby after it's
born and not enough they can do like 4040 senators voted against
it, you know, what 44 or whatever was they couldn't get
to the 60 number, which is kind of odd because you think well
why wouldn't you pass that kind of bill resolution whatever it
was but that's because of the harvesting of the organs if you
keep keep something alive you know this big business in in
Oregon's it's just that's just a fact. I mean, they were looking
at the rabbi's in New Jersey who went to jail for they were
selling all kinds of Oregon's all over the world and was a
huge scandal so this guy is in on it and then all sudden he
drops the beans by by drops the ball by admitting to this on
that radio show the governor and then immediately they come out
and try to smack him down with something I'm sure it was it was
known for a long time which is the you know the racist
blackface K K K yearbook picture. So blackmail it's by
the way, it's what the CIA does. They do it with sex all the
time. And the FBI. Nuff said. As its Yeah. So yes, I think
they're there. That can be the only reason. Bolton is a creep.
And he is a neocon and Trump doesn't seem quite that
interested really in like even Venezuela. Yeah, he's like yeah,
he does his speeches he does whatever I think he's he's
interested in the in the oil he's always said that about
Iraq, you know, Oh, we're so stupid. We went there. We
basically help those idiots out. We didn't get anything for it
was just to solidify my my theory about the wall. So Trump
has agreed that we should and I think he said it himself that we
should give TPS, which is not from office spaces but TP Yes is
temporary protected status to the Venezuelans so that they
just like I mean, the Haitians is so many different countries
who get you're allowed to stay in the United States, you get a
temporary protected status. It's a pass and it never really goes
away and people just build their lives here. Can you imagine?
What kind of what kind of you need a wall if you're giving TPS
to Venezuela? You're gonna have a lot. We're gonna have a lot of
people walking up here. So this seems like something that maybe
was even in play before he took office? I don't know. Yeah, if
you look at the long game of
what we do, oil companies are played long. It's long game.
It's very, very long game. But let's talk let's talk about
something that we can still talk about. Even though I don't want
to go into depth on it. We can have a conversation if we want
hear about vaccines. We have it all the time. You know, we're
not anti vaxxers There are some things to question such as you
know, why do all the pharmaceutical companies have
immunity for their vaccines, it's blanket if if you get hurt
or killed by a vaccine, you cannot sue that you cannot bring
a lawsuit that is that is federally determined in the
laws. Now there is you can get some respite, some, some
reparations from a fund that is that is kept very quiet. But
now, even talking about it on some of your favorite social
media sites, not yours not mine is a problem. You can't do it
anymore. This is from NPR.
More than 120 people have been diagnosed with measles so far
this year and outbreaks in Texas, New York, and Washington.
One factor public health officials suspect is
contributing to these outbreaks anti Vaccine Information on
social media Pinterest, the visual bookmarking site has
decided to intervene. A 2017 policy limits search results
related to quote, health misinformation, including about
vaccines, you FOMA xoma is the Public Policy and Social Impact
Manager for Pinterest. Before this policy was in place
for a term like vaccine, if you had searched vaccine, much of
the content was in violation of our community guidelines.
Because it was anti vaccine advice.
A search on the site for cancer cures might have brought up pins
or bookmarks for pages about herbs and juices that work
better than chemotherapy. Now you'll find a message that says
pins about this topic often violate our community
guidelines. So we're currently unable to show search results.
Our goal
really is harm reduction. And so because we're humble about our
limitations and our own expertise here, we look to
outside experts, like the WHO CDC, and the American Academy of
Pediatrics, and guidance on what's harmful.
So what is harm? You know, these, I love this new
department, although she had a little different name for it in
the interview comes back. Every Silicon Valley company now has a
Trust and Safety Department. And I think we need to have a Trust
and Safety Department. Okay, because this should have went on
to the show, this is something you can trust, and you can just
not safe. Here's a follow up on this harmful information. People
with alternative remedies to cancer, oh my gosh, we cannot be
giving this away people
go to the internet and go to these platforms to find like
minded communities and to share information. Are you doing
damage to that? That kind of agreement that they think they
have with you? Yep. So
harmful? misinformation is not inspiring. And it's not the kind
of content that our platform hopes to promote. But what if
people think
you shouldn't be the one to make that decision for them as adults
who are on the internet doing research on their own? Why
should you get to make that call?
Well, we aren't making the call because vaccines are settled
science. Because we know that there may be questions about the
decisions that we've made. We're really clear and transparent in
our community guidelines and use simple language so that everyone
can understand why we're considering certain content
harmful people
set up your own website stop this insanity. Mastodon server
wordpress.com
at anything don't know that Blogspot Blogger or WordPress
are doing this to the to their users.
No, of course they're not and if you host it yourself, you have
much, much less.
You just hosted yourself now. Couple of things about this
measles deal bothers me I had some closerie for but I don't
know if you can find them but to be under measles. This started
by this we had this measles thing happened about 10 years
ago on this show it to the point where the Lear Foundation was
dropping. Yes, I remember in the In Law and Order were killed by
measles or killed by measles. There was a big case with some
woman that does fictional on law and order where this woman
didn't have her kid vaccinated and that kid next to her died,
so
what what? What would it be called? I have measles. BBC Josh
Disneyland.
He did don't know what it'd be called. Okay. So you know the
way i You're asking the wrong? Yeah, what am I so so the
measles thing is not a new thing it happens is a cycle now is
supposed to be eradicated a few years ago. But somehow, if it's
eradicated, it seems to me, which they claimed it was, it
would be eradicated. I think they reintroduced it. And I say
that because there's a number of news stories that came out
recently where the kids got the measles vaccine and then got
measles. Yeah. And then there was a bunch of other kids who
had the vaccine settled science by the way, but not the US, but
not the booster and they got measles and when did a booster
become a thing for measles? So I, I'm most of the opinion that
if you go about it this way, especially if you can't get
sued? Yeah, you take this and I don't want to sound like a
conspiracy nut. But from a business standpoint, you're big
meat, you're making these these vaccines. And now you notice in
Washington State in particular, people aren't taking the shot.
Right, although it's a shot I'd recommend. But under these
circumstances, I maybe I'd wait. Because the people up there,
that's where it started to break out. And, and again, it's
reported that it was a kid who just got the shot, who got
measles and started spreading it around as eradicated disease
eradicated, they say it started spreading it around now
everybody has got all freaked out, they're gonna get him back
on the shot wagon the bandwagon for shots. I just find something
scam ish about this whole measles outbreak, that if you're
if you can't get sued, I can put live virus in the thing and
injected to a few dozen kids in some areas where we know there's
not a lot of vaccines being taken.
It would be it would be great to find one of our pre by do it.
One of our earliest earliest shows, I should say. We I in
particular really became very interested in this was in a way,
a lot of awakening for both of us. I think back in the day, 10
years ago. There was a JP Morgan Chase investors conference and
we actually had the you had the slideshow, yeah, had the
slideshow. And it was I forget which pharmaceutical company it
was over. It was maybe just one one CEO talking about the
industry. And it had it right there. They had their hockey
stick, it was off the charts. Vaccines are the next revenue
source. This is the gold mine. And since that we've seen we got
HPV Gardasil, all this stuff came in and we had the swine
flu. We, you know, the flu virus is an ongoing vaccination
program, just on and on and on favorite,
by the way during the swine flu thing. I think I put it in one
of the older newsletters. I had a picture they hit. We're giving
swine flu shots out at, you know, Albany at their library.
Oh,
I remember this. Yes.
I'm telling you, it was like a Star Wars movie that people were
lined up with their kids around the block this shot. And that's
a shot. I never I never got that shot. I just bought my approach.
And I've said it before, is I think Tamiflu and Relenza are
two antivirals that work very well if you get the flu or do
you think you're getting the flu? Well, you better be pretty
sure you're just wasting a lot of money because they're
expensive. And it's like I had I've had a flu shot. Most of my
life for every very how many variations can there be that I
haven't gotten the shot for I was
I was thinking about this myself. I never received a flu
shot. I the last time I got the flu, serious flu was the swine
flu in San Francisco. And I lived and since then I've had no
flu. Now I'm dying from allergies. It's a different
problem. But flu. I don't seem to get it anymore.
Well, I caught a version. I caught that one from a couple of
years ago that killed a bunch of people. I know two people Jerry
Pournelle I think was killed by the same flu. Wow. Shoot,
man, you should go you should go get a shot. We can't have you
dying from some snow.
I had this flu. And what happened was we were in London
and they were coming back and he was getting it right there on
the spot and he wanted to I have to have a process for these
things but I don't get sick. And I my process wasn't working. And
I Sadat This has got to be the flu and I immediately started on
Tamiflu. What is your process? I take to know more into mega
doses of vitamin d3.
If it doesn't go away then
well I rarely have to take two. It's usually with one dose is
everything out. Gotcha. And so it's it stops colds in his
tracks, but you can't do it a lot because it's hard on the
kidneys but you can do it once a month. Anyway, so that's that
wasn't working so I always carry Tamiflu when I travel. So I
started right away with that and I got through it pretty
effortlessly considering it everybody else's dropping like
flies, right? And my wife Yeah, she started too late on
everything and she got a bad case of it is really we
can't we need her to we got to keep you guys healthy. So like
that's the back office or the front office like we can't we
can't have this
we're fine. Okay. Okay. And worried about you.
I learned by watching you Okay. Something like that.
Hey, you man. Nah, man,
man keepers keeping me healthy. No worries. And that is our
deconstruction for today. We of course will have lots more to
talk about on Sunday and never ends not just deconstruction of
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