If you sell like a Lebanese merchant, Adam curry Jhansi
Devorah and Sunday January 6 2019. This is your award
winning give on nation media assassination episode 11 101
This is no agenda
foaming at the mouth and broadcasting live from the
capital the drone stars thing here in downtown Austin. Hey
Hosking the coffee. Oh, in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's raining, it's
raining. It's global warming. I'm John C. Devorah. Raglan
buzzkill
boy it's raining Oh my goodness. What are you going to do in
California?
I don't know. I've never said he is water pouring out of the
skies. It's the end. So global warming Apocalypse all we
look we know since 1849 People have been writing about the
hellhole that is California. Yep, nothing new. Nothing new.
And we missed the Zephyr
saucily bash, split second second
show the of the year already missing the Zephyr
here but it's rolled around the bend
you've inspired people, John. inspire people. Hello, hello.
I said you inspire people. And you were just very quiet.
And I was laughing? Who was it with the Johnny Cash Flow?
That's who do you think it is? It is it is our drunken
Chris. Yes. You got to do that voice man. He
did a whole end of show song for us. And let's see Matt did this
one on
this status
you know, long after we are gone, these songs will still be
floating around the internet.
And they will say no or no. Why?
would be like, Wow, man 2019 Back in the day. Those guys were
weird. Are weirdos and what is the Zephyr they keep talking
about? Come on. Let's get back in my flying car.
Yeah, that'll be the day
is yes. Before we start, we have travel advisories from the
United States State Department issued a travel warning for
Americans going to China. Be careful. But also travel
advisory for Italy. Terror advisory no less. Yeah,
terrorist groups continue plotting possible attacks in
Italy. Terrorists may attack with little or no warning.
That's how it works and
massive terror attack in Italy that affected the tourists.
I think I sent this to Willow who lives in Florence without
actually physically outside of Florence. And she said, Ah, this
is because of our hard aihole government. They're putting fear
into everybody. And somehow that's trickling up or through
or whatever. That's what she said. Just makes no sense. But
it makes sense at all. But I do like how the State Department
formulates a terrorist may attack with little or no
warning. Really. This is a revelation.
Yeah, I've always thought that they gave lots of warning told
people what the neighborhood was going to be. And they were when
they were going to take how they were going to attack and what
day
they may be targeting tourist locations, transit,
transportation hubs, marketing or shopping malls, markets, or
shopping malls, local government facilities, hotels, clubs,
restaurants, places of worship, parks, major sporting and
cultural events, educational institutions, airports and other
public areas.
When was the last time in Italy, that any of those places were
targeted by terrorists? I
don't know. I don't know. Never know. They've had stuff going on
in Italy. They've had problems.
Yes. Use the dam blown up a church. places of worship? Yeah.
Maybe a mosque? Yeah. Well, that's also a place of worship.
Yeah. Well, I mean, to me, that would be a target for some of
the terrorists who hate the other sect. But I'm not buying
it.
Well, I found this week or this weekend to be a little tougher
even than Christmas, as people still were just really weren't
quite back. And, you know, there was
I think there's a lot of people on furlough and the poll I went
to the post office to get the mailers like five pieces there
said the usual can $15 So
we're suffering again.
Yes, checks. And, but,
I mean, it comes eventually let me let me just get this right.
So the furlough or the partial shutdown, as it's called, is
hurting the show directly? Yeah, I
think so. Because people get there are people that listen to
this show. That's dead donate. Yep, they get it. chat.
We probably we probably have more government listeners than
we realize,
probably, and probably more of them not donating than we
realize. I ended up probably is a little bit, but I think we
don't think it's just a direct connection. I think a lot of
it's just the overall connection because of the slowed down of
everything in the trying to snap out of the holiday season and
all that sort of thing,
right? DC girl who would know, says payroll goes in on the
ninth and pay day is or is not the 11th That's that's when
that's the real day when it starts to get difficult for
people.
I must say, oh, Trump says it could go on for years.
That's not exactly what he said. I watched his I watched his rose
garden appearance, which I thought was one of yours. I
thought one it was it was one of his better appearances. He was
very calm. He was reasonably coherent. He didn't have a lot
of a world thing but me didn't have a lot of that. Now, two
questions did another one of those fun Hey, you know, should
I keep asking anyone? You got more questions? Like keep this
going? Look at you guys like it even through a question too.
That was her name from the the black Radio Network. I have no,
not an in Aveiro, but the other one you know what I'm talking
about? Yes, you do. Enjoy? No, no. She's MSNBC know from the
April Ryan.
Oh, God the worst. And
she had she had an okay question. And he said, Oh, good
question. He was like, it was like, he was happy. Everyone was
nice. And, and he was kind although as I'm watching some
watching it, I'm thinking in my head he's bringing in to first
of all, we just kind of changed the wall to bake can be steel,
it's American steel barrier area, but steel, so be good for
American companies. Okay, interesting. And then he brings
DACA back in. He literally said, I want people to come in and
have a pathway to citizenship, we need the people. He said all
these things. And I'm thinking, maybe this wall, maybe this 5.6
billion, 5 billion is just, he's just kind of an oh, maybe he's
going for a full immigration deal.
Who knows? It just it just kind of hit me like, it's gonna go on
for something bigger.
I was gonna now analyze it correctly, whatever he's up to.
He, in his rose garden statement, he did make it very
clear. He has he has his fallback position. Please, yes,
go ahead. So first, let me know when you get tired.
I'm not. Have you considered using emergency powers, to grant
yourself authorities to build this wall without congressional
approval? And second? hexaco? You have? Yes, I
have. And I can do it if I want. So you don't need congressional
approval to build? No, we can use them. Absolutely. We can
call a national emergency because of the security of our
country. Absolutely. No, we can do it. I haven't done it. I may
do it. I may do it. But we can call a national emergency and
build it very quickly. And some other way of doing it. But if we
can do it through a negotiated process, we're giving that a
shot.
So is that a threat hanging over the
Democrat? I never threaten anybody.
All right, he only promises it's when
the best part but and if I had had a beverage in my in my
between my lips, it would have been spewing throughout the
throughout the common law condo. And it kind of fits in with this
trump the stock whisperer, because whenever he says oh,
well, you know, he might want to buy it. I don't know. I think it
was just a glitch in the system. It's you know, the market went
up. 1000 points, the mark the trading day after he said that.
Do you recall he was saying was he was pissed off about the
price of oil?
Oil. He's done that a number of times? Well,
he addressed this specifically in his rose garden speech.
No, no, all of this stuff is changing. Now, this is a fair
deal. This is a good deal for Mexico. Frankly, oil companies
and other companies have an incentive now to go to Mexico
and take oil out. And that's why we're keeping gasoline prices so
low. You're looking at what's going on with gasoline prices. I
mean, it's rather incredible. If you look back four months ago,
oil hit $83 A barrel 83. It was heading to 100. And then it
could have gone to 125. You want to see problems. let that
happen. After I made some phone calls to OPEC and the OPEC
nations, which is essentially a monopoly. All of a sudden it
started coming down. I'm very happy with what's happened. And
I'm very happy that people are paying a lot less in many cases
than $2 a gallon for gasoline you look at what's happening
everyone's talking about didn't happen by luck. It happened
through time. Don't
talent man, that's talent. And I believe it in this case, I
totally believe that I believe whatever talent he has, he
pulled it together and said, Hey, this whole Khashoggi thing
let's start by lowering the price. And bring that down a
bit. You guys are pissing me off. I just thought was funny
talent. I gotta I gotta learn how to say that myself. This
show isn't just good, because it's because talent.
Yeah, it's hard to pull off.
He does it in the way he does it. It's like it. You know, it's
like it's like a kicker. At the end of every
at the end of the end of a no agenda clip. It's exactly what
it is.
That's a good clip. here that
was very, very funny. Do you have any wall clips you have
anything? I got a couple
really good wall clips. You know, it's just like the the
wall was tedious. Morehouse action. Well, here I got it. I
got nothing.
So he started. He started this on raucous Friday, and did his
first ever appearance in the briefing room first ever
appearance in the briefing room while he's here?
Advisor, I want to point something out. This was I think
I may have a clip about that. But this is pointed out by me
this is more important than anything. They these these
networks in democracy now. And the rest of them all the same.
It's like, Oh, my God is the first appearance ever, ever. And
I think he I don't believe that's true. But okay, let's say
it is. And then they said he just he just told the press what
he wanted to tell them. He says he called the briefing. And he
told him what he wanted to tell him. And then he didn't take any
questions. What kind of a briefing is that? It's a
briefing. Any questions at all? All right.
That was the first CNN appearance of President Donald
Trump. so significant for that factor. However, he also he did
not take questions. I want to discuss this with my panelists
discuss the questions members of this union, the national
national border patrol Council, which endorsed him in during the
campaign. So these are current and retired Border Patrol
agents, right. These represent Border Patrol agents, not the
Border Patrol. Just clear, and he has them behind him. But it's
just pulling the spotlight back to the White House and to his
point of view, but it's he didn't even take questions. Oh,
no, but it doesn't really explain. I think the Democrats
can make their point and they think it was Speaker Pelosi
there. They also say,
Bill Kristol, this guy has fallen so low to the sitting on
the panel discussing whether the President
magazine, yeah,
let's have this. We have a continuing resolution for the
Department of Homeland Security for a month, we will debate the
border issue. Meanwhile, we have these six other agencies of the
federal government, that you are closing down and holding
hostage, and we're willing to pass bipartisan appropriations
bills for those I think it's a very hard argument for Yeah, but
Trump can resist it by not addressing it right here with
these border patrol guys. And we need a wall. To be clear. This
is basically this is a stunt. Oh, I mean, this isn't a
briefing. So we thought there was going to last that was not a
briefing. Right. I'm briefing is questions
a briefing is questions. You heard it here first. Questions
and Answers just a briefing as questions. Why are you arguing
with Bria Breon? Don't argue with her. She's the worst a
briefing is questions you don't even know who she is.
Am I wrong?
Here's my question. Regarding this, if it's really every, if
so much of the country is really up in arms about this and
really, really wants this wall. I may not be true. But before
you
go on before you go, I'm gonna stop and read you the definition
of a brief word briefing
doesn't include questions? No. Oh,
meeting for giving information or instructions. That's one to
the actions of informing or instructing someone has nothing
to do with questions and answers press conference, nothing like
that. It's a briefing. And everybody including that clip
you have was up in arms about this
last minute briefing that that was not a briefing. Right. A
brief
briefing is questions. Yeah. No know. So that's all they could
argue about is whether it was a briefing or not was interesting.
But I'm thinking if people really want this, we apparently
have the capability in America to mobilize millions of people
with pussy hats and we can get people on the streets and they
go down to DC. How come this doesn't happen for something as
incredibly as important as the wall?
Why isn't that happening?
I see it See, that's?
That's almost my question. I mean, it, is it only the left
with pussy hats who can organize
is the right left is the ones who go out in the streets. So
why doesn't the right do that? If it's if it's right for dad,
right,
that when the right does that, as in case in point would be the
Tea Party, they actually would go out into the street, they
tend to be elderly or older. Yes. And there are young ones in
that group. But then they started to go on the street with
any sort of signs that are the even reflect mirror reflect the
kind of signage that they have. On the left. They're called a
bunch of Nazis. And that's why they don't want to go to down so
they can't go do anything.
But the left, but the left are then called on Antifa by the
right. And you can make an argument all themselves Antifa.
Ah, yeah. You're right.
Well, I just think if it's life or death, people would take to
the streets. I'd hoped they would, but they're not. So you
just got to wonder right actually
do when they're conservatives, right? The old farts and
everybody else takes to the streets for over something. It's
not going to be pretty.
This wall issue is, is about two things. One is just not giving
Trump what he campaigned on. That's definitely part of it.
And the leverage for 2020 It's
it's also leveraged for a real immigration deal which includes
some pathway to citizenship which the Democrats desperately
want. That's that is that's what that's their position. And Trump
was talking about this in his speech, He's saying look, well,
first of all, put more money into the into the regular ports
of entry, where people are overstaying their visas, which I
hope would mean an exit stamp, which is what every country in
the modern world has to track if people ever left and he's
talking about pathway to citizenship, I think something
much bigger may come out of this. And I never I don't know
who this person is Cheri Bustos, she's apparently congresswoman
from Democrat for Illinois. Do you ever heard of her? I've
never heard of her. But she is also the chairperson of the
DCCC. Then she explains what that is in this clip. And just
listening to her. I think there's a lot of room and I
think they may be further down the path than the press wants us
to know,
where is the room for a deal?
Well, the room for a deal is that there's got to be some give
and take. It's I worked in the private sector my entire career
before coming to Congress. In fact, I was a journalist for 20,
almost almost 20 years, I'm
misguides. Why don't we know if she was a journalist for 20
years, this is bugging me, well, I'll look. And
then we're just have 10 years. But as you know, when you're not
on camera, when you're working with your producers and your
photographers and all of that, you know, you got to have a
little give and take. And if we are unwilling to do that, we
will not improve the way this place. I'm standing in the US
Capitol right now, we will not improve the way Congress
functions. And you know, if it were up to me, I would go into a
room, I'd lock the door and say, We're not going to leave you
until we open up the government. Again, it is not that hard. And
I think one of the point worth making the wall that President
Trump has talked about now for many years, because this was a
defining theme when he was a candidate. It is nothing more
than a symbol. If you look at it from this perspective, if we
have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology
used to keep our borders safe, all of that is fine. But it has
just become this symbol that the President is not having any give
or take when it comes to this $5 billion.
So you said there needs to be give and take. And then you said
that you're supportive, or at least open to the idea of a
partial wall fencing technology. Is that the give here? Are you
willing to give some additional funding beyond the 1.3 billion
for a partial wall?
I hadn't even heard this 1.3 billion number yet. That's
Schumer's number. He said, That's what he'd be willing to
give for the wall or fencing.
But now none of us for the wall. It was for border security,
I think or technology.
Well, keep in mind, I'm not sitting at that table doing the
negotiating. I mean, I'm running the Democratic Congressional
Campaign Committee. It means I have a seat at the leadership
table. But you
have a vote in Congress and you are a member of Democratic
leadership. And people you know, you got four votes for speaker
and I don't mean to diminish that people listen here. So
what does this for votes for Speaker
15 members of the House refused to vote for Nancy Pelosi.
Okay, it's got scattered around. I got thanks.
Are you saying that that is where you believe Democrats
should give?
I believe that when we are looking at many issues, whether
it pertains to rebuilding our country in passing what I hope
will end up being a trillion dollar infrastructure package to
rebuild our roads or bridges, roads and bridges and water.
How about that? What if we fold it into the infrastructure bill?
Well, I'm sure a lot of wiggle room with a trillion dollars.
Well, she's talking, why does she bring that up in
relationship to this
isn't in rural broadband or whether it has to do with
lowering the cost of health care, including the exorbitant
prices of prescription drugs, whatever it is, what I'm saying
is, we can have a starting point, that we go in there, and
we say, this is ideally what we would like to see happen. But in
the end, we might have to give or take a little bit. It's just
the way the world works. It's the way our families work. I'm a
mother of blah, blah, blah.
I think there's room there, and she's signaling this, maybe.
I'm not saying she's not.
Pelosi is the one who really calls the shots. She worked
at the Quad Cities times as the night shift police reporter.
Wow, that's a gig. And she actually got a master's in
journalism from University of Illinois, to get the gig.
Yeah, well, that in those days, I don't know how old she is. But
in the olden days, you'd get you come out of college 57. Yeah,
you come out of college. And you you if you had any journalism
chops, whether you were the editor of the school paper, or
you were taking journalism courses, you get offered these
sorts of gigs around the country when they had real newspapers.
And they was always the starting off, as always, some cop beat
for the police department. And that's actually kind of made the
reporters a little more street savvy, because they actually
were out there. Yeah,
they they get getting some real information.
Yeah, yeah. Those days are over. But yeah. All righty.
I think we're done with the wall. I just thought it was
interesting that you know, how viewed just seems like something
something's going on. There's the I think we will get to
something.
Some better be going on? Well, it has to Yeah. Well, they
talked about this a little bit on democracy. Now. Let me let me
give you an example. Here's a Amy Goodman is going to talk
about, they're going to talk to a very detailed information
about the wall and some of the things that went on that are
going on in the various administrations, this play this,
this is Amy regarding shutdown,
as the government shutdown moves into its 14th Day with 800,000
federal workers either being forced to work without pay, or
on furlough, and they won't be paid. We go now to Capitol Hill,
where we're joined by Democrats.
What do you mean not true?
Could they give everybody back pay for being put on furlough?
That's why they blocked him like going on for a while. And then
why she lying to us? I'm wondering myself because I think
she knows the reality of it. There must be somebody that's
that's not going to get paid. I'm not sure what the what the
point of that comment was,
but and they won't be paid. We go now to Capitol Hill, where
we're joined by Democratic Congress member Judy Chu of
California. She's the chair of the congressional Asian Pacific
American Caucus. Congressmember Chu is also a member of the
Committee on Ways and Means along with Democratic Senator
Jeff Merkley of Oregon She's introduced the shutdown child
prison camps act, her recent piece of the Pasadena so
I want you to get your pencil because there's going to be so
many details.
Already interesting. The title of this act Yeah,
it will be but you know, you're gonna hear all the really
important stuff. So really start writing down notes
or news headlines shut down Trump's child prison camp
Congressmember Judy Chu, welcome to
shut down Trump's child prison camp. Is that seriously? What I
just heard? Yeah, hold on. I gotta back it up to the title of
that act.
Case for the Pasadena Star News is headline shutdown. Trump's
child prison cows are Congressmember Judy Chu, welcome
to Democracy Now. Congratulations on your swearing
in yesterday, along with the most diverse Congress in US
history. Your thoughts being in that room? And the comparison of
the diversity in color, religion, ethnicity, sexual
identity on the part of the Democrats versus the
Republicans? Oh,
it was just so incredibly exciting to be there. With the
now majority in Congress. You could see the stark difference
just when you entered the room as the proceedings started. And
that is on the left side of the room where the Democrats sit.
There was tremendous diversity. We have a record number of women
in Congress. Now there are over 100 women in Congress, but most
of them are on the Democratic side. But there is also
tremendous diversity. We have the greatest number of Latinos,
African Americans and let me also say we have the greatest
number of Asian Pacific Islanders elected to Congress
now Ha we have gone from 18 to no 20 Asian Pacific Islander
members of Congress. But it is so exciting that we have now the
first two Native American women in Congress, and the first two
Muslim American women in Congress.
Right? United Colors of Benetton.
Beautiful. Hey, where's this from it? What are they talking
about? Just sitting there patting yourself on the back?
Yeah, oh, we got all these women. And I look over the aisle
and there's a bunch of more women and look all these people
we elected. It's not talking about qualifications or whether
any of them are any good. They haven't even been in office for
10 minutes. But they're just all backhand a wow, back slapping
This is great.
Well, it's useless. So if you look at how the Democratic Party
runs, and what issues they run on its diversity. And they said
we're gonna get make it more diverse. And they did. They
didn't say they were going to get anyone right for the job.
And they may very well be I don't know. But they said they
were going for diversity, they delivered on their promise.
Let's go with part two,
the first day was to be able to change the rules so that we have
greater transparency, and Congress. And it was also to
pass bills that would end the government shutdown. On the
rules issue. Yes. And unfortunately, since the last
few congresses since Republicans took over, we have had a lack of
transparency. So our whole goal was to change it so that for
instance, we could have a bill 72 hours before it's voted upon.
So we can actually read it and contemplate
Oh, yeah, we'll hold you to that one. Don't worry.
Second, but this woman, was it this Obama's promise when he
first became president? Oh, and it's gonna be everything's gonna
be on C span. And you're gonna be able to read the bills and
all the rest of it. Yeah, that didn't work either. That was a
Nancy Pelosi one says, We got to pass this bill. So you can read
it to see what it says yes, yes, that's correct. That's why
Democrats, I don't get it. That's why I'm not understanding
what she's telling you. In other words, she's just full of crap
like the rest of them. Would with this nonsense? No,
no, they put out a bill 72 hours in advance before they even
bring it to the floor. And, in fact, I'll read from it in a
minute. So they did that they're working on it, they're getting
better, so
that we can have an end to this conflict of interest. So for
instance, members of Congress cannot be on corporate boards,
and also so that we can have greater diversity amongst our
members.
No, no diversity, not diversity, diversity.
Now I wanted mentioned. So of course, that board saying
they're not talking about the real conflict of interest stuff,
which is the fact that Doc trades, can do stock trades
based on what the legislation is going to be in advance,
legally. And they have to report it. It's only the but it's
available only in the basement of the library of Congress not
in the pleadings. I'm not kidding, no coffee, no copies
can be made and leave the premises No, in that
galacturonic equipment, you have to bring pencil or a great
memory
of greater Wait, wait.
So they they make they late late, let that slide. But they
talk about this board member thing, knowing full well, that
none of these diversity folk, or anybody are are on any boards,
or on any boards, except maybe some public, you know, some
Soros boards, which don't count or don't like corporate boards
of money making companies or only applies to one half of
Congress,
so they can still be on this on a board of a big NGO.
Well, I'm pretty sure that's true. I not
not look into that. That's interesting. That's interesting.
If that can be shown, then you can see that this is just a
bigoted, anti business kind of thing. Let's hear the word
diversity. HRS guys should be on board the corporation's? Of
course not. But if you're gonna start limiting things, you're
better limited evenly. Yes, yes.
Get some diversity,
we can have greater diversity. I nailed it amongst our members,
allowing religious headgear on the floor. So those were our
rules.
I've never religious headgear always reminds me of the braces
I had with the head gear in my head. I hated those things had
to had were in the school. Had to do three notches on the right
two notches on the left, that's head gear on the
floor. So those were our rules packages. But the most important
thing was that we do not continue the suffering of these
federal workers, these 800,000 federal workers who either will
not be paid or will be paid later and do not have a paycheck
now,
you won't hear the bit from the bill that they brought out
before they bring it to the floor. The 72 hour bill. Yeah,
it's from Sarbanes put it in, you know Sarbanes from Sarbanes
act. The Oxley
Sarbanes Oxley one of the worst
laws in effect ever.
So he put out the for the people act of 2019. Producer Todd
caught this and pulled out a couple of things. This is to
know more transparency, rectify the elections, get our electoral
electoral system in order, and a couple of points page 39. The
voting age should be lowered to 16. Make sense? Any citizen will
be able to request a my voice voucher worth $25. So this is a
voucher you get to even out money in politics and you can
spend that 25 It's federal money. You can spend that $25 on
any party or individual you want. And colleges can
automatically register students to vote, but are not required to
ask if they are US citizens. According to the bill. There's a
number of triggers for automatic voter registration. non citizens
who are registered to vote cannot be charged with a crime
unless they knew they were violating the crime. So get out
of jail free card there. Within six months of an election,
people cannot use the cross state registration database to
find people who are registered to vote in more than one state.
Why? I know, because that's voter suppression. That's the
Republican tactic you see, to find corruption is is right wing
craziness.
Oh, my God, that's that's unbelievable.
Voting rights will be restored to convict criminals as long as
they are not in jail on election day. And all states must allow
early voting and polling locations must be moved within
walking distance of bus stops.
Let's back up.
This is in that bill that's supposed to be the for
the people act for the people act. It's pretty good, right?
Yeah, it's a scam as usual.
Slipping one by right.
Wait, so what does the media say about this? They must have read
this over and said this. Notice these these anomalies?
Yeah, I have a clip right here.
If you know what I mean? Of course, they don't say anything
about that. Come on, you know the answers. It's just, it's
just shameless.
No, thanks. Thanks to our thanks to our producer for digging.
That's what we do on this show.
Yeah, and put the put the whole PDF in the show notes and a show
notes.com. You can go find it there. But it's Oh, PA, by the
way from the future time for if we can just deviate or do you
have more on on what they understand is diversity,
diversity? Diversity or on the 2020? Yeah, go on. Let me see if
I have any on 2020. Hold on before we do anything. Yes, I
have. So who do we still have running the three B's?
That Joe Biden and bingo who's the third be? Beto Biden?
Bernie, Bernie.
We have Kamala Harris. And I think that CNN has really
decided to cut Biden out of the three B's and they brought in
Sally cones, everybody's favorite. To take him down and
let everyone know that you know, Sally cone besides being a
journalist, I think she's good. Although incredibly biased. I
think she has ties to the Democrats that are deeper than
the surface may show. I always think she has inside info. So
here's Sally cone.
Let's turn the page. And I know it's so early. But Senator
Dianne Feinstein says she would back Joe Biden, if he ran in
2020. Have you guys heard this and not only is it interesting,
Sally to you that she'd say something like this so early,
but also just keeping in mind Senator Kamala Harris is her
fellow California senator, what do you think? I mean, good
honor. Have to respectfully disagree.
Look, the when someone says I want to respectfully disagree.
What do they say that? Oh,
that's a good question to analyze, because
people say it a lot. Listen, I just respectfully I disagree.
I think it's hottie is I think it has bad connotations. I think
it means you think the person is just full of shit. Yeah.
You don't want to say like, Hey, you're so stupid. You're so
wrong, but I'm gonna tell you how it is. I think you're right.
That's kind of that's kind of what it means. I mean,
good honor.
There's another one good on her good on her eye. What does that
even mean?
You know, I'm hearing I'm having having grown up in Europe
growing up with a Germanic languages I'm hearing sentence
sentence structure certainly between Dutch or German and
English, everything is reversed. So instead of saying what do you
say? You literally say what say you? And I'm hearing this coming
up now what say you insomnia in certain circumstances people use
this and to say, good on you. It's good for you. How do you
know it's like a Germanic thing that's coming in? It's very odd
to me what I hear these sentence structures that are different
from the traditional English usage
is good on you good on her good on her. If you don't say it with
the right entity, intonation sounds stupid. Like, oh, well,
good on her.
Yeah, that sounds nasty. Yeah,
it's doesn't sound right.
I mean, good honor. I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree.
Look,
I think it's the prelude to Fu. The
Biden has name recognition, people like him. And in
fairness, he's the most sort of populist seeming of a long
legacy of centrist corporate Democrats, right. He talked off,
he's from Scranton, he talks about that all the time. And so
he sort of seemed like the most popular bearing in mind, he's
from the great banking state of Delaware. But but he kind of he
earned that reputation. But in fairness, the country look, the
country should never really should have had corporate
centrist Democrats, but certainly in this moment, that
is so tone deaf and out of step, not only with what the country
needs, but with what the American people across the aisle
want. And it turns out, we are a fundamentally more progressive,
inclusive, populist country that wants things like higher taxes
on the rich, and solutions to climate change, and corporations
and big business to be held accountable. And we need
Democratic candidates who I don't know actually side with a
majority of Americans, not to mention the majority of
Democrats, as opposed to siding with big business and Wall
Street.
Uncle Joe just got shoved into Wall Street. Ready to go south.
She Hey, it's
okay. You sit next to Hillary, she's there already? Yeah,
she runs a think tank that she founded. Sally. She's only
sometimes a commentator.
And Lea a stooge. For the Democrats. She's told a lot of
Democrats
that she mentioned the higher taxes. And I'm going to bring it
right back to what I said earlier, about AOC. And who I
am, and I'm so happy
to AOC clip. Yeah, I
have to go. Okay.
Let me see. How long is your clip? Yours is Oh, you have 142?
We're going with your clip,
you're talking about zero carbon emissions, no use of fossil
fuels within 12 years.
That is the goal. It's ambitious. And how is
that possible? You talk about everybody having to drive an
electric cart,
it's going to require a lot of rapid change that we don't even
conceive as possible right now. What is the problem with trying
to push our technological capacities to the furthest
extent possible just wouldn't require the raising taxes?
There's an element where yeah, there people are gonna have to
start paying their fair share in taxes, do you have a specific
tax rate? You know, you look at our tax rates back in the 60s.
And when you have a progressive tax rate system, your tax rate,
you know, let's say, from zero to $75,000, may have been 10%,
or 15%, et cetera. But once you get to like the tippy tops, on
your 10,000,000th dollar, sometimes you see tax rates as
high as 60 or 70%. That doesn't mean all $10 million are taxed
at an extremely high rate. But it means that as you climb up
this ladder, you should be contributing more.
What you are talking about just big picture is a radical agenda
compared to the way politics is done right now. Well,
I think that it only has ever been radicals that have changed
this country. Abraham Lincoln was a radical decision to sign
the the Emancipation Proclamation, Franklin Delano
Roosevelt made the radical decision to embark on
establishing programs like Social Security. That is
radical.
Do you call yourself a radical? Yeah, you
know if that's what radical means, call me a radical.
I really liked this girl. She has gone places. I know you
think she's
to me. I don't like her in the least I think she's, I do think
she's stupid. And she's an idealist and a goofball. I think
she's something of a goofball. I just do not see what you were. I
know what you're thinking. did he shoot six shots or only five?
Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's different.
You know, I'm going on record as Pro AOC. I think she could do
things that I like, listen, here's, I have some things to
say about this. First of all, what happened to the actual
Green New Deal, black on white, her own paper says we're going
to print the money. And we're going to print the money for
this green New Deal, which we only have 12 years to do really
only 10. Before we die, children know it that you ask any child,
particularly if they just got into college, what's happening
with climate change, we're going to die. So just bear that in
mind. Children believe that she believes this, I think, I think
so she said it was going to be done by printing money, just the
way we did the bailout in 2008. So she's changed. This is the
question Cooper should have asked. Instead, she brings up a
progressive tax system, which we've had all my life. And yes,
it's even today, if you make X amount, you pay only so much
over the first $25,000 50,000. I know exactly what the brackets
are. And then you get into the tippy top as she calls it up
jobs, which is Scott Adams would say persuasive, gets into the
tippy top. And that's where you may wind up paying more, and I
went back and I looked throughout the 50s, the 60s and
the 70s. Up until 1981, the tippy top tax rate in United
States was over 70%. So it's not it's not crazy. But
go back into that era, and the tippy top top tax rate at 71%
did exist. But there were a million ways to lower your tax
liability through all kinds of r&d deals and certain kinds of
investments and write offs this way and write offs that way. And
very few people that made that kind of money, they made the 10
million plus a year ever paid those tax rates, because they
had been putting the money here and putting the money there.
These were called the loopholes that were closed. And once they
start closing the loopholes, and they had to start lowering the
tax rates, because it was it was a one to one ratio. So this is
really misconstrued. This is a specious commentary that she's
making it's bullshit.
That may be true. The only thing I'm saying is, it's not crazy to
have that upper tax rate in a progressive system. And people
shouldn't immediately be Oh. However, more importantly, if
that's all it would take, to get the green new deal going to save
our lives. I expect every person who is a democratic voter or a
Democratic operative or politician to agree to this idea
to save the world.
I bet we won't. But it's not. It's I'd like to see
people like Nancy Pelosi and the real movers and shakers in the
party, buy into any of the we're all gonna die nonsense. So
of course, but that's how I can make my point. If they don't buy
into it, if they don't say, hey, you know, book a Make it 60%
Make it an even 50 Whatever you're gonna do. That's the way
we typically do things with raising money, if it truly is
the most important thing in the world, because we're all going
to die, then they should all be pushing for it, they won't
because it's not true. We're not going to die. My point is about
the science of climate change and the code that's been pulled
over everybody's eyes. So that everybody know but the people
who were advocating for this occurs, the people who were
advocating for the we're all going to die climate change,
don't deny sciences and they should be all in on at least
this idea.
I agree. And I think a lot of them are we'll see.
I bet not a single one of them supports this idea. Not a single
one single one
of who the Congress members yes
the Democrats who say we're going to die from climate change
them Yes.
Oh, well, maybe by the way, this sounds like there's more than a
single I think there's a few this was all predicted the
newbies that just came in
because you see the the article that now you know the orbit of
the Earth is changing slightly and therefore going to spin and
that's not there for climate change. You know, it it may end
by itself or not.
They're looking for the outer loop for their exit strategy for
the bullsh listen to this rap.
So this this actually appeared in 1961 November 17. In an
episode of The Twilight Zone,
the word that Mrs. Bronson was unable to put into the hot still
sudden air is doomed because the people you've just seen have
been handed a death sentence. One month ago, the Earth
suddenly changed its elliptical orbit and in doing so began to
follow a path which grew Usually moment by moment, day by day, to
get closer to the sun, and all of man's little devices to stir
up the air and no no longer luxuries. They happen to be
pitiful and panicky keys to survival. The time is five
minutes to 12 midnight, there is no more darkness. The places New
York City and this is the eve of the end. Because even at
midnight, It's high noon, the hottest day in history. And
you're about to spend it in the twilight zone.
So that's the setup. But in the show itself, this is what
happens. There was
a scientist on the radio this morning, he was trying to
explain what happened. The Earth had changed its orbit, and we're
starting to move away from the sun and that within one two, or
maybe three weeks at the most, there wouldn't be any more sun.
We'd all freeze.
Nothing ever changes. Nothing safe spiritually. Remember
that episode is pretty funny. You remember? Oh, that's great.
Let's go back to 1988 for the upcoming election. Oh, hold on.
1988. Hello, John. Hello. Yeah, I was having trouble with my
segue, obviously. Yes, yes, it ran off a hill. Gore's running
is one of the main candidates. This is the election against the
George HW Bush the first time he after right after Reagan's eight
years. And so we have a few things here, including, let's
just play these two Gore clips from 1980's. Just pre election.
So just before the election, when he was one of the five
candidates do caucus one this thing he didn't. But he had a
few things to say that he's kind of stuck with. But I see that
he's kind of edited down his complaints that start with Gore
is free on
the other five candidates in the race. And later in the campaign.
I'll be doing the same thing on on domestication give
us a call where the difference that you've heard these guys,
and we all have for about six months, you know what you
believe the last 10 years? Where do you think the differences are
going to be education social?
Well, I think there are going to be some differences in in
education. In, in, in this in environmental protection. And in
a number of other issue areas. I'm the only candidate to
talking about the need for a completely new approach to
environmental protection. As as an example. I'm chairman of the
largest environmental protection group in the Congress, I chaired
the first hearings ever held on the problem of hazardous
chemical waste and pollution of groundwater. Some 10 years ago,
I was one of the principal authors of the Superfund law.
I've been active in issues from clean air and clean water to
protection of the upper atmosphere and the rain forests
and ocean pollution, management of public lands. And the
positions I've articulated are I'll give you an example.
Do you see at any point mentioned that he invented the
internet.
He invented the internet later, oh,
when I announced my candidacy, I talked about the threat to the
ozone layer, among many, many other issues, and some of the
other campaigns said, sort of hooted at that and said this is
really a kind of a an unusual issue that the voters will not
respond to, I find a tremendous response from the voters. I find
Americans all over this country, actively concerned about the
impact of our civilization on the global environment. And the
next president must not only understand that impact, but must
be prepared to offer strong innovative leadership nationally
and internationally to stop that damage. The recent treaty
incidentally, on the ozone depletion, accomplishes a 35%
reduction in in in the production of these chemicals
called chlorofluorocarbons or CFCs. And yet, the evidence
shows that there must be an 85% reduction just to stabilize the
amount of damage being done. In other words, under this treaty,
the damage will not only continue, it will accelerate
fairly dramatically throughout the balance of this century.
That's unacceptable. Now, there may be some market developments
that help us deal with the problem and the treaty may
accelerate those market trends. Well,
this was his whole thesis return for the running thing is to
scare the crap out of the public have these assertions like great
dude like by the year 2000 apparently according to him,
there were the hole is going to get bigger when it got smaller,
and all this sort of thing, but the next one which is the second
clip has an assertion with an actual time and date? Or date?
That it should be noted. Okay. Yeah. Because it's it's he says
it, and I do the calculation and I didn't happen, but
but there are many other challenges. Climate change is an
issue that again, wow is is is out in front of the domestic
consensus on what the agenda of the next president ought to be.
But the next president needs to provide leadership there as
well. Destruction of the rainforest. We're losing
rainforests in the world today. At the rate of one Tennessee's
worth every year, an amount of land equivalent to the size of
the state of Tennessee every single year by the year 2010.
It'll all be gone. Right.
It's gone. It's gone. It's gone.
Is it gone? Did you check that?
Yeah, I did. Check. Gone. It's not gone. Oh, my looks as if
there's not even close to being gone to stay. You can look at
you know, rainforests and Wikipedia and the axiom all
they're still there. It's just not gone. But going to him? If
not, you're gonna be gone by 2010. All right, let's come.
Back here.
A couple of things we've talked about that are coming that are
coming true. Yes, that are panning out. A while back, we
identified that the excessive use of cuss words amongst
leftist liberals Democrats was increasing. And this increased
signal something to me, it signaled the severe frustration
and I said it's only going to get worse. You're hearing it on
podcasts everywhere. People who would never use any kind of
profanity are using the F word excessively. Now I have
Tourette's so you gotta give me a little slack. You actually
have used some that you use the S word today. You rarely even do
that. Not understanding that was the BS word. I'm not even saying
that. You're a leftist. But it came it came true. I mean, it is
they are this is a break in the psychology in the psyche of
people who typically are left but who hates Trump.
People love you, and you win. And when your son looks at you
and says Mama, look, you won. Bullies don't win. And I said
baby, they talked because we're gonna go in there. We're gonna
impeach the motherfucker.
And listen to the cheering, cheering
this is just getting worse.
This was an example. But I think a lot of it has to do with
education to people that are typical truck drivers who
wouldn't really know this woman is not a truck driver me Larry
that's big enough to handle just not using F
this. This woman's not a truck driver. And by the way, truck
drivers aren't stupid. They have vocabulary?
No, but they don't do a lot of truck drivers get into some
milieu I'm sorry. All right, that's more fair. Yes. The
milieu of truck jobs, certain working classes, involves a lot
of cussing. The this woman to me is this is important, especially
the way it was handled. This is an important situation. Because
this can't be tolerated by Nancy Pelosi. Exactly. She and if she
can't control these new people that are coming in, and she's
going to have to take them one by one. She's going to have a
mess on our hands. I think. Sorry,
I think I think it's already done. They brought in all the
diversity and that's the mess.
Yeah, diversity is the mess. Yeah. Whether Nancy can organize
it at her age, not to be an ageist. Noridian sheltered our
truck drivers. I don't think she can do it. I think the whole
Democrat Party is gonna fall apart. It's gonna be it's gonna
be an embarrassment as those sorts of things that that woman
did. She's the new. She's a Muslim, by the way. From
Michigan, I think she's the Michigan woman that is going to
really turn off the American public insofar as Democrats are
concerned.
I agree. You're right. I think it is signaling something that's
much bigger problem.
I totally agree. I have a clip.
Oh, here it is. This is diversity. And Pelosi regains
gavel this up from Democracy Now that discusses a little bit of
this.
And coming members of the 116th Congress made history Thursday
is the most diverse group of lawmakers ever sworn in. Over
100 Women now serve in the house along with the most LGBTQ black
and Latino members in history. Meanwhile, Democratic Congress
member Nancy Pelosi of California was a fish Newly
elected Speaker of the House again regaining the gavel she
lost after the 2010 midterm elections brought eight years of
Republican control to the house.
Our nation is an historic moment. Two months ago, the
American people spoke and demanded a new dawn. They call
upon the beauty of our Constitution, our system of
checks and balances that protects our democracy.
Remembering that the legislative branch is Article One, the first
branch of government co equal to the presidency and to the
judiciary.
15 Democrats including some freshmen lawmakers defected
against Pelosi speakership, either voting for an alternative
candidate or simply voting present. As a first order of
business House Speaker Pelosi and House Democratic leaders
sought to end the partial government shutdown passing a
package of spending bills that would reopen the federal
government without meeting Trump's demand for $5 billion
for expanding the wall on the US Mexico border.
So Pelosi has got this she has some defectors, which is she'll
punish those 15 But she's also going to punish the few that
threatened to not vote for but did they voted for anyway but
they're sterile martela Beyond the Commerce Committee for
sewage treatment and marked and these were some of the words you
know, farm animals
she was the she was also kind of squashing her words a bit
like she's I think she's got denture sounds like she does it
listen to the listeners.
Thank you for your courage. Yeah. Courage, courage.
Some refitting fitting yes retooling. Maybe
I got a dub slob on the listen to tell me if you can you spot
the AMI, the AMI, hey, this is actually a double flub. Okay.
Saving a spot both of this about the Google story where you know,
Google apparently is dodging taxes. big shocker. But this
isn't the Seabees find the two double flubs, and they're not
necessarily mispronouncing things. It's what she says
newly revealed tax filings show Google shifted $23 billion to
accounts in Bermuda in 2017. As part of a complex tax avoidance
scheme that saved the tech giant billions of dollars in revenue.
The scheme involve funneling money through Google Ireland
holdings and a Dutch Shell company based in Bermuda, where
corporations pay no income tax. The scheme known as the Double
Irish Dutch sandwich is legal. Although Ireland's government
has said it will close a loophole allowing the
arrangement and 2020
Okay, first of all, it's a double dutch it's never a Double
Irish. That's just stupidity. And I think she also said it
would save the millions in revenue, which is not
mistake number one. Yeah, it's not true. It's gonna save
billions in taxes. Yes, but not on revenues, revenues or
whatever revenues or revenues. It doesn't save you any
revenues. It
does just that wrong. The Dutch just called they want their
their other part back.
Don't play the clip again. There's a second one in there
and I forgot Oh, really. Besides
that there's one Oh,
newly revealed tax filing show Google shifted $23 billion to
accounts in Bermuda in 2017. As part of a complex tax avoidance
scheme that saved the tech giant billions of dollars in revenue.
The scheme involved funneling money through Google Ireland
holdings and a Dutch Shell company based in Bermuda, where
corporations pay no income tax. The scheme known as the Double
Irish Dutch sandwich is legal. Although Ireland's government
has said it will close the loophole allowing the
arrangement and 2020 allowing the
arrangement. Yeah,
it came out we're not just came slipped out the second one.
Okay. Anyway, I have something much I have something much more
important. From the future. We are. Yeah, of course, wherever
Ebola shows up. We always expect the US military to follow. Now
you would know it from the American news, or, dare I say
even any news in the western in the western world now, but if we
go to Africa today,
the United States has deployed soldiers to Kabul one in
anticipation of possible violent demonstrations the Democratic
Republic of Congo after its presidential election, US
President Donald Trump told Congress on Friday, the first
batch of about 80 military personnel arrived in Gabon on
Wednesday. Their mission will be to protect US citizens and
diplomatic facilities. Should violence break out in DRC is
capital Kinshasa. Trump said additional forces may be
deployed to the bone if necessary.
Notice no mention of Ebola is completely off the map we don't
care we got what we needed a we get them in one way or the other
troops in
The DRC just a matter of time. How'd you get that? That
was a good clip.
Oh, it well, Reuters actually reported on it they did do a a
news release about the US troops being deployed. But it wasn't it
was not meant I need I was looking for a clip and this is
all I could find. I found a million clips with some shit
music and titles, you know, those? Those are the worst algo
assembled pieces of crap. Like, oh, I got to clip No, I don't.
So yeah. And then I just went back to the well after the
fact that the mainstream news media, including the CNN and
MSNBC 's of the world, spent all this time I bought this
briefing, the definition of briefing instead of sunlight yet
stories like this just slide well, who cares.
That's why we're going to be great this year.
We just think it's gonna get worse.
Oh, the mainstream news, CNN, MSNBC, Fox, all three of them
are going to do 2020 All day, all night long, it will be
nothing else, that it's decided that they're doing it. It's like
the MH 17 It's they just gonna go it's only you know, it's only
two years, they don't care.
And might be right, I hate to see it because it's gonna be
incredibly, the public doesn't care about 2020. They won't care
about 2020 until 2020.
What you're seeing is a total withdrawal. You're seeing
withdrawal, people just not interested anymore. They're
turning off the television. It's just it's only going to go
downhill is easy to predict this one easy. So, you know, now for
us, we're just going to deconstruct other new sources
and you're still if you go to our tea or Sky News, you get
different things, at least and get something from a different
country that seems to be constantly
been looking at CBC this week.
We need to take a break though before we go into another
another segment. Okay, but we'll be doing CBC News after I thank
you for your courage and say in the morning to you John, see the
man who put the sea and cussing Devorah
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we have a funny situation here that I've not actually I don't
have it straightened it out. Oh but there's there's a sir Scott
and there's a Sir Richard okay. And and I don't believe that
this is this may or may not be the same person but neither one
of them wants to be mentioned their name Scott or Sir Richard.
At least it says Sir Richard on the note and the both of the
numbers were a 123456 Well, I don't see Scott on the list.
Well, Sir Scott, so I've been going back and forth with
because of this, this Okay, so I've got
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me. Here's the real problem. I'm gonna have to do some more
emailing. Oh, I see. Okay, now. Thank you what is happening? I
get it now. Sir Scott, who is a sir? Wanted to be called Sir
Richard initially but then when we went back and forth with the
email because this check was a week late. Oh, he forgot about
that part and because he wanted to be super anonymous. So he
became now he's two guys. That's pretty anonymous. Yeah, okay.
Yeah. Okay, I got it because it's the same day. I'm saying
that it's the same guy Scott and Richard. Because they're both in
Louisville, Kentucky. You weren't good.
You weren't listening to you weren't listening to Rihanna
again. Where you
know, as I should have been, maybe that's the show's a botch
for me. But anyway, let's go on a day. We want to thank Scott.
Richard, for his Scott Richards. Good name. Your business name.
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just wanted to jobs. Nancy jobs, jobs,
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executive producer. You know, and luckily he came in at all
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don't have one either. Jim Watts 233 dot 33. This is a test of
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Karma. All right,
well, let us know how that goes. Jim. Very curious.
Now again, this is not something we encourage. And I think for
relatives and and looking at it from a jobs perspective. I do
think it's it's possible that this is on the up and up. You do
think I do think I don't think you do I don't think it's
possible but I do think it's possible. Thank you. You're
welcome. Further humiliating.
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I'm not going to do the whole squirrelmail
I have nothing from Mr. Fields.
Mr. Field WC Fields now.
I have nothing from him.
I have Allison fields Anthony Tom. No, no,
again, not even close. So we got nothing. But so that
we got him as an Associate Executive Producer with $200
We'll take that let's combine
our missing Robert Warner and Jeffrey fields and give them a
joint karma. Did you got it?
You've got karma.
That's pretty much it.
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That's Laura Ingram, how it works have an ads if you want to
say whatever you want to say. Yeah, radio show she really got
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Yeah, I see what she's on one of the networks that you can't
monetize. But she was on one of them.
Well, no, that is that isn't monetized network because that's
a closed loop. Yeah.
Well, you know, to get kicked off Yeah, that's exactly the
internet and what I like about this is what I enjoy about the I
kind of enjoy watching these, these these things happening.
Because it's like, oh, yeah, oh, the good support from your you
know, you've you've been there you've been making the network
money because they're not putting you up for free. And
people like your show some people I guess, I don't know.
I've always found the show to be not quite as like as your TV
shows better. But she's making money for minutes. It's a little
cry little one little complaints. A couple of
advertisers bail out and you kick her out you throw her out
and baby with the bathwater you just get boosts give her a kick
around on a budget bouncing on her on her butt right at the
studios. And what kind of operations are these money
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Of course, why would they their money making operations? Oh, no
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I was running the place. Well, You're heartless No, that's your
job as a corporation.
No, it's not. Yes, it is. Myth. Doesn't have to
be okay. Alrighty then. How many corporations have you run?
I've actually run a couple but they're all like me and min Mimi
is proficient. I've
run a public company.
You don't care?
I didn't like the job very much. I'll be honest, but you don't
care? Less. It's just you can
there are plenty of CEOs of big corporations who do care. Okay.
I know in the information business in the John, if you got
to hold
on a second, how can you even support this you got D
platformed. From PC Magazine over one article in your 35 year
history with that I
agree with I know it was there were there are douchebags for
doing that. But let me give you an example how the newspapers
used to be run. You started attacking some guy and
threatening the newspaper The
newspaper to go after it's not an it's not a newspaper. This is
an
information outlet. And it could go after the advertisers. That's
what Limbaugh has been doing. Every time somebody threatens to
pull advertising from Limbaugh. He just tells us his senses
ditto heads out to make their lives miserable. That's what you
do.
There's a difference between Rush Limbaugh and Laura
Ingraham. Yes, well,
there's that this is true. But here's here's what I wanted to
point out. Besides all that,
is that we really we recognize early on, the only way to pull
this model off is to open up two things, one, donation amounts
make them people can can personalize them. And also it's
the value you determine. It's like, if we're worth five bucks
worth five bucks, fine, this was perfect. Doesn't matter. So we
left that open? We didn't we didn't say you have to do this
or have to do that whatever you think is valuable. Second thing,
we do everything ourselves. There is no you cannot have
producers that you that you hire and put on a payroll because it
just there's not enough money in in the value network. I don't
think it is for any system really.
And I'm always stunned by the podcasts that have maybe three
people taking part and credit a credit roll a guide of a guy on
the board or produce or a book or m&a maybe has six seven
people working there and it's like, that is like five or six
too many.
So the first one of the first things we did is or early on is
we said our audience are not listeners. They're not schlubs
just sitting around they know stuff. We figured it out pretty
quickly as we got every three letter agency certainly in the
in the United States was sending us information like oh, we
listened to you guys. The CDC I think was the first like we're
always we're laughing about you guys but you're more right than
you're wrong. And here's what we think about x y&z So we said
these are our real producers, and the production work they do
is the value that it's returning the value they get from the
show, they don't have to support us financially. So that worked
very well. We also at I've made incessant This is an OCD thing
of mine is to keep it all contained hope all production
that we can just do it ourselves. And I see these
networks I did I send I think I sent you this article. This is
the W SDG. This is the outfit that build studios. They used to
be exclusively recording studios do a lot of broadcast studios.
Yeah, and they did the gimlet media Yeah, studio. Yeah. 20,000
square foot Brooklyn facility.
Dedicated there's your overhead
dedicating 2700 square feet to one studio. And they have they
got to let systems so they can, you know, copy edits back in
forth between their 12 podcast studios, including a full music
production recording studio. These guys are insane. today.
Oh, I wish they would just say, Hey, how did that work out? When
you guys did it? What didn't? You can't do this? It doesn't
work that way anymore. Oh my goodness, I'll put that in the
show notes. You got to see the facility. It's bigger than my
apartment. You could move in significantly. My permanent
closet. The closet.
Just wanted to mention some you mentioned how the donation
amounts they vary so much because it's you know, people
can choose their own. We have to remember that week kind of
picked up it was it was actually again in the early days. Yes was
pretty it was the producers that could come up with these crazy
numbers. Yep. You know, they would have some number that we
spent half the show decoding what does this number mean? And
I guess most of you know, that's the square root of became a
thing. Yeah, it became a thing. And if you make it a Fibonacci,
I mean, what?
It's important to people. So don't be so stringent. Anyway,
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some of that we would mind buying some of that I
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while on the subject of the Golden Globes Yeah, I have this
clip because everybody's now you know they've changed the way the
shows are because the women just don't get up to look pretty they
have to make a state man so they read this this the clip is
politicizing the awards power in the form of fashion. Okay,
and generations that is at the forefront of
I have two of these clips play that play those CBC clip first
Hollywood's award season has arrived beginning Sunday with
the Golden Globes, the stars will be getting their steps in
on the red carpet and with much of the world watching. These
sorts of things are always an opportunity for fashionable
drama. Except now the question you're more likely to hear
perhaps may not be Who are you wearing? But why are you wearing
that? The Hollywood red carpet seems to have become the fabric
of a very political message no. Thank you.
First there were the black dresses at last year's Golden
Globes to show solidarity with sexual harassment and assault
survivors. Then the orange pins at the Oscars to protest gun
violence. And a few months ago at the Emmys Jennifer Lewis is
Nike outfit in support of Colin Kaepernick. Lately, red carpets
have been less about fashion statements and more about
political ones that says a new form of currency is activism.
And Karla Welch is at the center of it. In between celebrity
fittings here at her LA studio for clients like Sarah Paulson
and Elizabeth Moss. The Canadian stylist posts social media
messages on immigration voting indigenous issues. She dressed
after Tracee Ellis Ross and an array of black designers at the
American Music Awards, and worked behind the scenes to
support the time's up movement. Well, she has become one of the
most sought after stylists among Hollywood's elite. Not despite
her views, but because of them.
Yeah, starts to make you sick.
Yes. Remember when the Dixie Chicks and Michael Moore told
George Bush he was in a hole and the left one
that was in my lifetime. Yeah, that's changed quite a bit.
Yeah, now
that you're the MF and yes, MF Yes. Yeah, and Mapfre Yay. So
that no they've gone out of off the deep end. So let's finish
this up. There's there's parts Part Two and
generations that is at the forefront of breaking the mold.
politically active. 18 year old actress Yara Shahidi wore a
skirt covered with the face of African American activist Angela
Davis to a high profile event in April, Stranger Things started
around were the names of Parkland shooting victims on the
back of her shirt, Kids Choice Awards,
the rise in social media has allowed celebrities to be a
little bit more open about who they truly are. I also think
that the election has made a lot of people feel like look, I'm
not willing to just be quiet. Be quiet,
also recognize the power of speaking up. 14 year old brown
credited Calvin Klein for the design of her shirt to her 18
million Instagram followers. And Shahidi is Angela Davis skirt
was made by kata.
I think that the days of just being like, Oh, I look pretty in
a dress, which I love. We love celebrating fashion. We love
wearing beautiful clothes. But they're coming a little bit to a
close. And I think it's a good thing that there's different
ways of using power, power in the form of
fashion. Why do you do this
to me? Why? To me,
and I do it because I know it makes you sick as it makes me.
Well. I listened to the clip and I said, Oh my god, I'm getting
sick. I've got to put this on the show because I Adam deserves
to be just this sick.
Well, you're gonna regret it with what I have for you next,
then this is we're gonna stay with award shows the Kevin Hart
drama now instead of talking about, you know, elections in
the Congo and sending troops there, which I think isn't that
kind of a thing these days where we have or don't have troops
now, don't report on that. Now, let's get into Kevin Hart's
tweets. And this was this was kind of I don't think we even
talked about it's a little issue and we managed to avoid it. We
did. But then Elon invited Kevin Hart on as a to create a bridge
between Kevin Hart and the Academy so he can host the
Academy Awards again.
Well, let's let's let me help a little bit. By backing this up.
Kevin Hart was initially announced by the Academy Awards
group to host the show. And then somebody came up with some he
apparently had some is going to snide anti gay tweets from some
not no 10 years ago, around the time of his special where he had
similar jokes in the special Yeah, it was pretty much just
jokes, as tweets. And so somebody brought this up, is it
Oh, my God, this is terrible. And heart would be 40 even
became a scandal quit. He says I'm not gonna do this show.
Yes. He said, I've already apologized for those tweets. And
I'm not going to do it again, just to be able to host the
show. Otherwise, it'll keep coming back. I think it was
right about that. Yes. And then Elon wanted to build the bridge
that I've been mulling over. Yes. Go ahead.
I believe. I do believe I do believe that. Somebody there's
something they can't get a host for the ABC.
It's ABC alums on ABC. Hello. Yeah. Hello with ABC. ABC said
you gotta patch this up, Ellen make it happen because we
won't have any ratings. Every year this show comes out the
ratings go down. We look like doofus is. We've got to get this
guy. He's at least entertaining. Maybe he can pull it together
because we've had good luck in the past, you know, with other
black guy. Other black hosts, and comedian hosts. And this
guy's a top of his game as a comic. You got to get him out.
We got nobody else to do it. We can't get anyone that we want.
So this was a something of a scam. And was it who was the
Ellen show that had the
had the Vegas massacre security guard on?
Yeah. Which was something of a scam something
of a scam? Because she has deals with the she's got slot machines
and everything was at the Ellen show. I think it was Ellen show.
Yes. It
was because there's a there is a slot machine called the Ellen.
Yes.
So yeah. So she is all in on the corporate structure. And she is
doing whatever
changes you see, are big, big business. And
I've learned a lot about Alan I watched her her special on
Netflix, and that was quite good. And she's got an
interesting background and learned some things I didn't
know about her career. She's a
San Francisco comic. And
so she's clearly all in with the system. And I think she made a
big mistake by trying to patch over the homophobic nature of
Kevin Hart's past. That's how it's categorized. I don't think
he's a homophobe. I think he's just making jokes. And 10 years
ago, you could make different jokes. I think she's going she
and I already see evidence of it. She's being excoriated by
the community, which I don't believe exists, but Okay,
there's supposed to be some LGBTQ or to be precise LGBTQ Qi
APK community. And this came true. Just the other night, as
Donald Amman, the overnight sensation on CNN, schooled,
Kevin Hart, and more. And he did this in a 10 minute soliloquy.
10 minutes
of valuable leave this guy on the 10 minutes
of valuable overnight air time. So I just by cutting out the
pauses, which I did this morning, it was four minutes.
That's how long his pauses were. And then I cut it down almost in
half again, to be able to share on the show. So I'm saying right
off the bat, it is not a true representation of what he said,
because of all
the very long pauses
Yeah, but I'm addict pause. But I learned
a lot about the black community. And I learned a lot about
community. I just I'm using Don LeMans words, the black
community, and the LGBT T community. And it is an eye
opener,
Kevin, if anything, this is the time to hear other people out to
understand why they might have been offended. And I don't see
any meaningful outreach to the LGBT community. And now you want
the conversation to end. But many of us really need to keep
the conversation going. It's life or death. And someone like
a Kevin Hart with one of the
life or death now we're talking about a comedian and the Oscars
life or death.
Biggest megaphones in the world can be a leader, the ultimate
change agent can help change homophobia in the black
community. Okay,
this is where I wouldn't homophobia in the black
community. You're telling me that, that people of a different
color are different. This does not sit well with me, Don,
something Kevin's old Twitter jokes addressed, but in the
wrong way. So take the tweet where he said that he would
break a doll a dollhouse over his son's head. If he found him
playing with it. He said that's gay.
By the way. If you look at it, this is so egregiously shitty of
Don Lemon to do. He takes a tweet that is a joke with a
punch line. And he removes the punch line and says, Oh, yeah,
if you were gay. You know, I say he doesn't literally read the
tweet, which is a joke, not maybe a funny one. But he pulls
it apart and makes it sound like he would hit the kid of
literally hit the kid with a dollhouse if he was because it's
gay.
That was a joke to Kevin. But the truth is, that is a reality
for many little boys in the United States. Ah, somewhere, a
black dad is beating his black son. Okay,
now you've got my attention, Don Lemon. He's talking about
violence in black, not amongst the community says it all the
time. He's saying black Americans beat their children.
The same way it happened to my friend, Oscar nominated Director
Lee Daniels, who through his TV show Empire portrayed how as a
little boy, his dad threw him in a trash can for wearing heels.
And now
somehow we've magically transformed from being gay to
wearing heels. And I don't think it's a prerequisite that you are
gay as a child that you wear heels. But okay, Don, I'll take
your word for it
took him out of the house and threw him in the trashcan.
That's the reality for a lot of little boys. Those views of the
LGBT people within the black community have consequences. So
think of this. Okay. We're about facts, gauges and news
organization. The Center for American Progress is at 40.
We're Did you hear that? We're fact based organization. Let me
just get some facts for
unity have consequences. So think of this. Okay. We're about
facts here. This is a news organization, the Center for
American Progress says that 44% of homeless gay youth are black.
But that's huge. The number of black people only make up 12% of
the US population.
I'd like how he uses this statistic. Because when it's
about violence, let's just take one against the police officers
getting killed or if it's about crime. When someone says, Hey,
man, the black population in America is only 12%. Yet they're
responsible for more XYZ, then you're a horrible bigot and as a
whole, and you can't say these things. But now Don can use the
statistic. This guy doesn't even
used a statistic. He uses the derivative, which is very
misleading, extremely homeless,
gay youth are black. That's huge. The number of black people
only make up 12% of the US population. Those kids were
likely kicked out of their homes or had to run away because of
who they are and because of how our community treats them
now when he's saying commute He means black community. He's
telling me that black Americans are more homophobic than white
than any other color Americans. I find this to be a real
outrage.
And we have to talk about outreach. Ellen, a trailblazer
and respected leader in the LGBT community. She really is. She
almost lost her entire career for coming out for being a
trailblazer doing it first, she gave Kevin the opportunity to
tell his story on her show, that is an olive branch if I've ever
seen one. She says that she forgives Kevin and thinks that
he should host the Oscars. But honestly, Alan doesn't speak for
the whole community.
Oh, big mistake, Elon, you don't speak for the whole community.
And this is where DOM is finally going to tell us that there is
no such thing as a community and he's full of crap.
We need to speak up for the young black people, especially
young black men, kids in the LGBT community. I'm a gay black
man. I don't know what it's like to be a white lesbian.
What aren't you in the same community? And you're telling me
that you're in the same community as a black gay man.
And you don't understand what it's like to be a lesbian white
woman? What kind of a community is that for?
Black men, kids in the LGBT community? I'm a gay black man.
I don't know what it's like to be a white lesbian. I don't
know. If someone called me and they had an issue. They said,
Hey, Don, you don't know what it's like to be a lesbian. You
don't know what it's like to be a white man. You don't know what
it's like to be a woman. I would listen to them. So I'm saying
These issues need to be addressed, especially when it
comes to black youth in our country because they need to
know that it has value
mug and self righteous.
Oh yeah, he's the kid he's the king of the gays now. That's
That's how he's portraying himself and the king of the
community and
it's okay to be who they are we in the in the African American
community.
I'm sorry. He's the king of the blacks. Now we have
to stop low key, cosigning homophobia. It is not cool.
So wow, man,
is this true?
Is this true? That it goes something deeper than skin color
that or that it is just black? Black Americans are more
homophobic than the rest? Is that what he's saying?
That's what he might be saying is well sounds like to me I was
sounds like what he's saying. But I don't know how you can
make that assertion. He doesn't even know how a white lesbian
feelings How did you know how white anybody else thinks. So
how can you make that that generalization? If he's doing
it? No,
he's he this is the 20 Minute 20 seconds left.
And we won't tolerate jokes that tell those youth otherwise,
we can't have jokes now.
Because apologizing and moving on does not make the world a
better place for people who are gay, or people who are
transgender being an ally does. So Kevin, no one is against you.
No one said that you should be fired or any of that. What they
want for you is to bring light to this to be an ally. So it is
your chance right now to do the right thing to change minds and
possibly save lives.
Okay, Don, thanks for counting on a comedian to save lives. But
why is it that all I hear is it's white alt right, people who
hate gays. That's all I hear. And here's Don Lemon in 10
minutes, saying that it's it's worse with blacks? I have no
answer for all of this. But it just irked me.
Apparently.
She's generalizing a whole bunch of things here. And that is not
cool. Don Lemon. That is not cool. generalize.
Well, they had Chris Rock on is the host twice in a row because
he liked him. Yeah, I don't know why they just don't bring him
back.
No, I you know,
I listened to the I don't think we talked about this last time I
listened to the Louie CK one of his recent stand ups. And I
gotta tell you something broke. He's nothing he says is funny.
It's a miss societal. Yes, it's broken. Well, here's a good
example. You can find one of these old 1000 funniest jokes.
But I'm not talking about buying one off the shelf at a
bookstore. I'm talking about going to a used bookstore and
buying the 1000 funniest jokes or any of the Bennett Cerf
books, where he collects all these jokes. And these are all
I'm talking about once printed into 50s and 60s, pull those
books off the shelf and tell me if there's any joke in the book
that's funny. You won't find one now they're
just not funny anymore.
They're just not funny but when we see hey, have to say was it
funny then? That probably was I don't you say hidden here's the
now here's another problem I have. I did take the folklore
classes from Alan doneness at the University of California and
a lot of it was focused on GE oaks. The problem I have with
the thesis about these times the timeliness of jokes is is the
folklorist named leg men who did the rationale of the dirty joke
volumes one and two. Rationale the dirty joke is dirty jokes,
and probably dirty jokes from the starting in the
1920s 30s 40s 50s. These are all old jokes because he goes back
to the original joke that made this particular category what it
was. And he has all these different categories, job
categories, you don't even have any more like jokes about
American Indians. You can read many of these jokes and I would
say not all of them, but at least half of them are still
funny. The dirty
jokes. Yeah, the dirty jokes I can see that. So I'm just
getting
baffled by it. You know, what is the non dirty societal jokes
that are talking about your daily life? Why is Louie CK not
funny anymore?
I don't know. But he just wasn't. I think is also you can
make comebacks in America. We're great as we everyone gets at
least one comeback shot. But when you when you come back, you
got to eat pie, man, you got to eat humble pie. You got to just
refuses you got to make fun of yourself. He doesn't the first
thing out of his mouth is I lost $35 million. How's your day
going? Yeah, that's wrong. And I think that because I that's your
opening joke. No,
no good joke to get much sympathy for me now by
now. So you screwing up the great American tradition of the
of the comeback kid. And it's over now for him in my book.
Well, he's, you know, to come back and be reengineered as
possible. I'm not seeing from the looks of
it. I'm not seeing it
on civvies gonna stay on this path of being adamant. I mean,
his his attitude is, look, I talked about these things that
I've been accused of in my material. It's not like news to
anybody that I'm like a masturbator. And so he resents
the fact that it's turned back on him. Yes. And instead of
seeing what was wrong, what's wrong with this picture? And
doing what he's supposed to do? Which he doesn't know how to
do? That's
worked? Yeah. Which that makes most comics who are irked?
They're not funny. They're not going to be funny, right?
Oh, well. Pay attention, people. This
has a lot to do watch the Kevin Hart LNT what came of it?
It's nothing. Who cares? Nothing's coming up. So
not gonna do the show?
No, I think Elon wants to do the show. I think she's Brian's done
it before. Yeah, she would want to go back. That's what I'm
thinking. But I don't know. More importantly, I really, really
don't care.
Well, you cared enough to do a segment that was different as
Don
Lamont Are you kidding me? He's the king of all blacks and gays
of the communities.
All right, let's go back to some of the clips from 19 2009. These
are now I realize what this bit is, these are clips from 2009.
But within the clip, it could be something older like to 2000 or
the 1988 Did the Al Gore thing, right? And for example, a good
example of 2009 clip is the Taylor Swift clip, which used to
be a classic on this show. Going back
to 2009 when John first identified the talent of then
very young Taylor Swift
straighten but Taylor strive for perfection only makes the people
who work with this young star respect her that much more.
Let's go
there's been times where I've played a solo and then she'll
say, Well, can you kind of do this and she'll sing me a
melody. I'll incorporate that and and that's very impressive
for someone her age
the problem that I was having with a solo is that it like it's
getting a little noodley. Like I'd rather it be like, narrow,
narrow. Less notes. That'd be great. Let's try it again.
I remember this and I remember being very skeptical of your
adoration of the young Taylor. And how wrong I was.
Yeah, I saw this going down, bro. Yeah, it just chops.
slouch. He was so
right. On the money.
Can I bring us back
to Oh, no, don't bring us back to one more. Okay. And that way
we don't have to go back again. Oh, good. Now this was a one of
the early. This is one of the early jobs karmas. Oh, from 2009
where we had, we had the Nancy Pelosi thing incorporated with
an old Dick Powell clip from one of the old Broadway musicals
that was turned into a TV show or to a movie Dick Powell saying
they got
something with kind of a march effect March rhythm to it. Yes,
I have. I have something about a forgotten man. But I don't have
the word stood yet to play it. Just gotten the idea for it last
night, was down on Time Square watching those men in the red
line. Standing in the rain waiting for coffee and donut.
men out of a job around the soup kitchen. God that's what this
shows about the depression. men marching marching in the ring.
And marching, marching.
That's though for jobs.
That's right. Is that is that the clip you edited back then?
Yeah, no, that's, that's fantastic. Yeah, I was doing
good work. Yeah. What happened? No. All right. We're back.
This is a I have a presentation, a couple of clips. It's very
much for us. But I think in looking at tomorrow, the Brexit
movie will be released in the UK. It will be aired on Channel
Four. And it also I believe it drops in the US on HBO. This is
a propaganda piece. It has big names in it. It's a propaganda
piece to tell everyone that the algos rip them off in the Brexit
vote. And the timing could not be more perfect. Because today
again, we read that everybody wants to do over something and
it predicted from day one because that's the way it works.
And so it looks like they're just pushing and pushing and
pushing. Now comic strip blogger. He was posting in no
agenda social.com which is our Mastodon federated node. By the
way, as an aside, I figured out what why. Mastodon is has,
doesn't have the toxicity of Twitter. It hit me all of a
sudden, okay. And this is something that was not in the
original Twitter design, the ability to retweet with a
comment. So you can boost a post on Mastodon but you can't add a
comment. So you know, so a true boost, like a retweet on
Twitter, which is a user demanded function by the way
people were doing. Originally, no users demanded it. They were
they were using
people. Well, there was an element of that. But at the same
time users are going our tea. Yep. And then cutting and
pasting another but somebody else's tweet. And Twitter felt
that was giving the users too much personal power. And so they
came up with the retweet button.
And that actually made things worse because now you retweet it
shows up as a tweet on your timeline, not a reply replies
don't usually show up that quickly. It shows it shows to
your followers, a retweet, and you could add any snarky comment
or whatever comment you want. And that is what starts the
virality. This does not exist within the mastodon system. And
the guy guardon Whatever in his name, he says I'm not putting it
in. I'm not putting it in, because that is exactly what
ruined Twitter. And I think it's a very astute observation. I
think the RTS with comment is to blame anyway, so comics are
bloggers in there. And you know, he's an expert in machine
learning now. So he claims now I've known this guy since early,
early, early daily source code days. I mean, way before the
show, huge orig OG original Forge, and I have no idea what
he does. I know he doesn't make money on his cartoons. And it
hit me all of a sudden. He's my handler. I think about it, he,
because he always wants you like you don't say anything about
Poland. And it gets all pissed off. But he stays 20 years,
almost he stays. I think, yeah. If you look back in his history,
I think he was in the tech and I think it was probably some kind
of agent. And then Microsoft kicked him out because he was,
you know, telling the do too many things to their system. And
I think Well, whoever he works for if it's the Russians or
whoever, you know, Interpol, I don't know who he works for. But
he clearly got demoted. And they said here, do this podcast guy.
He's he's your target now. Because he stays doesn't you
know, he'll get pissed off about something. It's always something
in the show that we do. He can't do it. We I am his target, I am
allowed to quit. He's not allowed to quit anyway, he now
he says, you know,
as silly as it sounds, it's not that silly. It's a possibility
really
could he's, he's like the guy that couldn't handle the big
jobs. So they gave him me handle that guy. Oh, Jason All right.
So it doesn't matter. I he's a part. He's a part of our
experience. And I appreciate him for that. There's some good art.
He does some great art. He's a great contributor. And sometimes
he's right, but he handler. So he's posting about, oh, this
proves machine learning, but and I kind of misunderstood what he
was saying, because he posted a video of Dominique Cummings at
some kind of marketing conference, Dominic Cummings, is
the Brad parscale of Brexit. This is the guy who did all of
the Vote Leave campaign and the Facebook campaign. And he
explains exactly how we did it. And we liked this stuff. It's
interesting, because, you know, these days, Facebook and other
social networks are seen as tides. You know, it's it's both
a fantastic tool, because you can get stuff done, you can
change the electrics thinking at the same time, the Russians
could use it and change the electorate's thinking. So it's a
very, it's very, it's mysterious, and it's scary, and
what do we do with it? And for us, I think is just as
interesting as listening to how the digital campaign for Trump
ran as to hear what he did in his conclusions. This Dominic
Cummings, for the Brexit campaign, I thought you'd be
interested to.
Yeah, okay.
So we'll start off with the messaging.
So we worked out, essentially, what I call out
by the way, the guy has a bit of Tourette's and he's a stutterer.
So it's, I cut some stature that I cut well, because otherwise,
we'll just be gonna win this case, we got to listen to him.
So we worked out, essentially, what I call message would be and
it had, it was very simple, had arguably say five elements to
it. The first was the theme of take back control. Now we're
back triggering loss aversion to feeling that something has been
lost. And we can regain what what we've lost, which, which I
think was interesting. And it worked on different levels. It
wasn't it was the most obvious level was you got to take back
control from Brussels, but it was also and I think David
Cameron and George Osborne didn't quite appreciate this. It
was also about taking back control from the system itself.
It was for a lot of people take back control, made them think
yeah, these are the guys who screwed up the economy who drove
off the cliff in 2008, whose mates are all the Goldman Sachs
bankers and the hedge fund was on massive bonuses, US marks on
pa pa ye are the ones paying paying the bills for this will
show those guys will take back control from you lot in London.
And I think that was a that was a powerful feeling.
So there you go. Taking it back. This is just marketing, this is
nothing special. By the way, taking it back was the message,
take it back. And that was what they decided upon early on, and
they liked it. But then they went to some academics, and
found persuasion studies, persuasive usage of words and
tactics that had actual formulas attached to it. So again,
nothing really crazy. If there's tons of focus groups Don on what
persuasive tactics work, marketing is persuasion. And so
they brought in the guys who done some studies, so we had to
do things it we have to take risks, and we had to do things
in a slightly new way. But one of the basic things that I did
was I brought in a team of physicists, who essentially
looked at campaigning from complete first principles. And
what they did was they went, they simply scanned around the
world. And they said, what studies have been done on issues
of turnout and persuasion, that actually have good maths behind
them to support and have been replicated, and we can actually
have confidence in and they basically filtered all went
through, filtered them all out, and came back to me in a team
and said, Here is a small selection of things have
actually high quality or reasonable quality work, which
you can rely upon. And here are the principles that you can see
in these studies that have been replicated with randomized
controlled trials and whatnot in the States. We basically created
a checklist of what these things were, and we built the
communications team around trying to exploit each of these
elements which the wish the wish the physicists found. They also
can Strike two models to help direct resources on the ground
campaign. So where do you send your activists and the digital
campaign? How do you actually do that in a scientific way. And
essentially, you had streams of data coming in from all sorts of
different ways, the website, email on the ground canvassing,
social media, blah, blah, all of this stuff that could be
traditional polling, more of the stuff coming in. And you have
the data science, people sitting at the heart of the operation,
and essentially taking our core messages, and just running
experimentally, a whole bunch of different things on Facebook and
elsewhere. And then figuring out what things work and what things
don't work, we started off with relatively small amounts of
money, just to run this experimental process.
So there's your A B testing, he had a small a small data set of
proven persuasion techniques. And what I found interesting,
which comes back in a minute, as he was also getting feedback
from the The campaigners on the ground, this is never mentioned.
But people with boots on the ground who would go door to
door, and they and this is the only time machine learning was
used. They changed the way and this is important. They changed
what they used as polling data. And he explains what
kind of polling so I'm sure all of you know, the poll the
methodology used throughout the world, essentially the same
system that was invented in the late 1930s. And the idea of is
you take roughly speaking, 1000 persons sample. And if it's
random and representative, then you can rely on the mathematics
of the normal distribution and famous bell curve. And that
should give you a pretty accurate picture of what people
think, for various reasons that is becoming harder and harder to
do. Happy to answer questions about why that is. But leaving
that aside, what the physicist said was this actually not the
way that you would event polling, if you would go to
event polling now, the way actually to do it is take
massive samples of hundreds of 1000s of people, ideally,
actually, millions of people, but say, hundreds of 1000s of
people, and then use machine learning. And you will actually
have a system which is faster, cheaper, more accurate. And
another has another great advantage which we exploited,
which is that if you do these very large sample surveys, you
don't have sub sample, you can define the demographics that you
interrogate yourself. And what we did was we basically use the
exact same categories and for demographics that Facebook uses
for its digital advertising platform. So we sucked in data
on the precise same basis that Facebook marketing allows. And
then we had, therefore, large sub samples of the overall
polling samples, which you could actually rely on. And then you
could take that data and plug it straight back into Facebook. So
you could say, for example, we will target women between 35 and
45, who live in these particular geographical entities who don't
have a degree or who do have a degree or whatever, et cetera.
Because you've got very large samples, you can actually get
useful information on those kinds of relatively small
breakouts.
Now, I'm not a marketing expert, but this sounds just like
regular old cross indexing to me. Yeah,
I guess you could say that, I think is right. I mean, you say
that,
I mean, machine machine learning in this case is just machine
learning is bullcrap. Yeah. That part we know is just nothing.
It's just the there is no such thing as machine learning. The
machines don't learn anything.
It was just the ability to cross reference cross index these
categories to disregard sorter.
So
exactly. So this is what that resulted in.
So we did all this. And we, as I said, we essentially ran a whole
series of experiments based on what we found in the
conventional polling in the focus groups out in digital
world and then filtered, what what worked, and then we held
back almost all of our budget, and then we basically dumped the
entire budget in the last 10 days, and really in the last
three or four days.
Again, exactly what the Trump campaign did held back and then
just blew millions in the last week in the last few days, based
upon weeks and weeks of AV testing. This is
exactly what the media does not want to be passed around.
Exactly.
We aimed it at McComber Exactly. But I think roughly about 7
million people saw something like I think a billion and a
half one and a half billion digital ads over a relatively
short, short period of time. And in parallel to that you had the
whole ground operation, which will also to begin with, they're
quite skeptical about this. What the hell is some guy who bubbles
on about quantum mechanics? What does he have to tell people who
like me have been going out leaflet on doorsteps for 30
years? So people were very skeptical but have to be on the
ground. You know, if you if you're doing that job, you
actually respond well to things that work. So very quickly, they
came back and said, Actually, these boffins have sent us to
the right place. It's unbelievable. These These, these
are our people. So quickly, that kind of trust issue was was
sorted out inside the organization inside the
organization and the ground team were happy to go where the data
suggested that that their efforts will be most useful.
So I think this ground team is undervalued in the overall
scheme of things because they were basically saying, Here's
where the people live, go knock on their doors, and they were
getting good results. too. One major item that is no longer
discussed as a part of the Brexit vote, and that was the I
think was a Jill dando who was murdered. Was that her? It was
just the wrong one.
It doesn't I don't know. Yeah, it's the
murder the woman who was murdered?
She was a polar?
No, no, she was a politician wasn't Oh, Joe Cox. I'm sorry.
Joe Cox. Yes. Of the Labour Party, she was killed. And and
this is no right. You talked about in the UK, in the UK. Yes.
Jill. dando was a different killing. Now, this was Joe Cox.
And she was killed on June 16. And that was what just a few
weeks before the before the Brexit vote, and that changed
things dramatically. But the elites, they had a different
view as to what the rest of the country had. And this guy, of
course, saw that in his mass polling data.
And our campaign took advantage of it. We'll push on,
I'm sorry. This is a long clip period.
Why did this happen? Was it just immigration? No, it wasn't just
immigration, giving people a chance to vote for the NHS as
well as voting against the EU. Without that, then the economic
scares off the establishment would have been too powerful and
we would have lost? Could we have won without immigration?
Absolutely not. The reality of it is that those three big
forces that I talked about created the conditions in which
we could win. But then you had the government making a series
of big mistakes. And you had our team which which managed to
exploit it and their mistakes, essentially, were there real
negotiation was a disaster, unlike it makes 75 When Wilson
pulled the same trick. There he persuaded people that their
relationship had changed. And therefore the polls moved this
time, no one believed or come and came back with an a
particular camera and never understood the danger for him of
coming back and saying essentially, nothing had changed
on immigration. They also I think, run it by campaign, they
relied on people on MSG Saatchi in various big advertising
agencies who did a fairly rubbish job. And they, and they
lived in a bubble. And you can see that in the last 10 days
after the terrible murder. They essentially chain ditch the
whole campaign and stop talking about economic risks and turn
the whole thing just into what were the good people in your, in
your the bad people, because that was the self reinforcing
culture that you heard in London, whereas in fact, as soon
as you went outside the N 25, and did market research,
firstly, country had a totally different reaction to the murder
than than people, better educated, richer people living
in London.
So without the fear of the immigrant fear without the NHS
fear that you'll be paying 350 million extra a week or whatever
it was in your healthcare. It never would have worked. But
they also completely misjudged the Joe Cox merger and to wind
it up, he's going to shoot a big middle finger to the media, the
people who are supposed to know better and know how these things
work.
And our campaign took advantage of it. We operate it on, we just
on very, very simple tried and tested rules that work about
organizations, we kept the NPS out of all management, no MP had
anything to do with the management of the campaign was
run by about six or 10 people, the oldest of which was made
youngest of whom was 21. So we kept this team small. They
worked extremely hard. They made a lot of sacrifices. And they
focused on the public, not on the media and not on the insider
on the inside of game. I think in the long run. Some of the
things that we try to do, you can see all the parties now are
trying to learn from all parties are trying to learn from some of
the things that we did. I don't think they've done a very good
job wise with them in the last in this last campaign. The
reality is that most communications companies have
populated by bullshitting charlatans, most of them should
be fired. And I think that in the next 10 years, a massive
chunk of them will be fired. And people in Silicon Valley and
others will increasingly take over this industry the way that
they've taken over other industries. And if you've got a
not very good degree in English or gender studies or something
like that, then you're very rapidly going to get I think
you're gonna get fired. And the industry will go through the
kind of change that other industries have seen.
There you go.
Gender Studies into studies. Yeah, you can get a degree in
gender studies. Yes. Really
a winner. Well, that was interesting.
I think it was a little long. Yeah. Give, which I think some
people may have been bored. I liked it because I'm interested
in this stuff to an extreme. Yes. And
why I think it was important to do it a little longer is that if
we watched this movie Monday, I wonder how much of the truth of
what he really did comes back into the creative product?
Probably none.
I think maybe he got Facebook information and then you think
did it. Propaganda? None? None? Probably none.
This movie is a piece of propaganda, obviously, is
designed for exactly what you said, I definitely want to watch
it. And it will probably have some effect. But you know,
there's constant hounding and how named by the media. I mean,
they, they can't really be overlooked even though he
thinks, you know, these guys are a bunch of screw ups. But it
can't be overlooked is out how the never ending hounding and
hounding me when you go to the bank the other day, and like one
of the tellers is depressed. And you know, she thinks that
world's coming to an end and all the rest of us, she's watching
the news and news, watching the network news. And it's just not
not a healthy environment for most people.
But the conundrums they offer TV, I mean, so I'm, we're not
the only people seeing this. There's no, there's people in
Washington, DC and other political samples that we power
out of people seeing and they see this. And so here's the
conundrum. Do we all go out and hire this guy or guys like him
and dive into this? Or do we see the danger that anyone could do
this? And do we need to regulate it?
doesn't regulate? Know it, but this targeted advertising is
just a hormone? I know.
I know. But you got to put yourself into a moronic,
no one's gonna do anything about it. No, but they will try. Well,
they're just wasting time, they should probably learn from the
guy. Yeah.
I'm always surprised. It's the same way. You got to repeat the
right message over and over and over again. To the right people.
Yeah, but so what else is new? The guy just found the people
write to use a new methodology to find the people. Yeah. I
mean, that's what these marketing people have always
been doing all their lives is from the beginning of the idea
to the answer to most recent, they're just trying to find
these people. That's why Facebook is so appealing,
because they claim they've got a key to the kingdom. They got a
way of finding the people you're looking for. You're looking for
this person because this person wants to buy your product. We
have them right here in this little box.
I am so happy. We don't have to do that. No, we
know what I actually enjoy about this show. Is that our
audiences, everybody. In fact, we did a meet up on Friday, she
told me about Yes. says this is boots on the ground for me. He
got we had about 32 to 37 people show up which was a lot because
it was a flash meetup. We just threw it together in the last
minute
how many people but 37 not bad for a flash? No, not
bad. Not bad. It's very good, actually. And it was all you
know, the classic no agenda mavens a little different
slightly different. In Debt. There were a little more
academics, I think then for example, in Seattle, there's
very few. By academics, I don't mean their professors. I mean,
they work at the University. There's at least two or maybe
three librarians there. Oh, including some interesting ones
do they have?
Did they stop stop stop?
Did they have hair in a bun and glasses that they could then
undo the barrel man? Oh, well, did they have a bun? Hello,
man buns into into place. Okay.
You know, I used to be a spokesperson for the American
Library Association.
Give us your pitch.
I don't remember they use my picture on posters. I was more
of a poster boy. I wasn't the spokesperson. I was the poster
boy, literally. Yeah.
And it was a good group. I learned a lot. I got some
interesting little tidbits which I'll bring into the show. I
don't have today I didn't bring you there. The contributions in
the prescribed envelope are still in a in a processing but
I'm gonna put them into Thursday show
did maybe take them home again. Sorry, I didn't mean me take the
envelope home.
No, there's not a it's a bunch of envelopes, a bunch of
envelopes. Just kidding. And they're in my back pocket.
That's where they immediately go and then they get ferreted
processed, processed
but it was a good group and it was a good place as Gilman
breweries that kind of a Belgian beer house Brauhaus and as they
make interesting products, including a lager that's quite
tasty. Anyway, it was but this is we need to do more of these
but you can. I did have one guy, which I love Luckily JC was
there and JC could talk to talk when it comes to this sort of
thing this guy is Polish big guy. And he's going on and he's
he's a troubleshooter for a bunch of Silicon Valley
operations right now looking for work and he's given greeted me
the riot act about how the Silicon Valley is turned into a
bunch of left wingers and as has to do with AD Jaya all the
reason the style of work that you were it's like a lot of old
I explain this agile What is this Agile is the digest in a
nutshell is where you bullshit your everybody's bullshitting
each other. So there's no Oh, you fake it till you make it.
Nothing ever gets done. And it's and he's got this theory that
this creates a lying environment which is, which is fit for the
lefties. So long story, but he wants us to cover this more he
goes, You're not talking about how terrible it is in Silicon
Valley and how they're all become left wingers as well.
When I was a kid, they were all right wingers. And he says you
should cover that more. And I tried to say to him, and I'm
gonna say it to everybody else who tries to deal us to do
certain things. We deconstruct the news. But we don't initiate
coverage unless there's something that initiates it for
us. I mean, we have out of the blue come up with a couple
things that look like we initiated. But in fact, it comes
from information that we're deconstructing, and there's
nothing to deconstruct here. Silicon Valley is just a bunch
of a holes. And this is
well done. You nailed it.
Yeah, you nailed it. And so and it's and it's just sometimes
it's very hard to get people to realize we're not investigative
reporters, we're not, you know, we are deconstructionists
period. And that's what we do. And if there's nothing to
deconstruct, there's nothing for us to talk about. But there's
plenty to deconstruct, let alone start making stuff up. So you
know, you should talk to my son. And so I JC over there who could
talk for days about management and Silicon Valley. That was put
them over there and the hour later is still there. You know,
he's this guy's funny to watch. It's like a heavyweight boxing
champ. Did
you talk to anyone else? Was there any I was and I do a lot
of people. I
didn't talk to that guy that much because I I couldn't do
keep hearing this. I talked to everybody out. There wasn't
maybe one or two people talk this guy could keep talking
about football with a guy from Alabama and his girlfriend are
moving to Arizona eventually I talked. I talked about it. It
was very, it was a great meet up lots of good conversations
and good. I remember
22nd of February is the Boise, Idaho and I'm Boise, Idaho, the
Des Moines Iowa meet up.
There's desperate people have been pestering me about 22nd of
February. Yes.
Yes. Yep. Hello. It's because we're there that there's a meet
up. Okay. Yeah. That's my second. We're actually flying in
early to do the meet up. That's
just real to pack them in.
I have no idea how many producers we have in the
Midwest. No idea.
Don't come in from Chicago. Yeah, they might.
They might and Milwaukee.
So lots of time to plan for that. And it actually we had
dinner with with marks or mark, the art staff documentarian last
night. He's all jacked about Mark Hall. He's Mark jacked
about the Texas meetup, which is still in the works, people stay
tuned. It's coming. I promise you.
I'm gonna show my move by donation to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
I should mention the due date, or one of our dudes named
Mohammed was at the Vita.
Did he have his headgear on? No.
Let's thank a few people. We don't have that many on this
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Mary. She used to tolerate my listening to the show but has
become a true fan. We had a lot of anecdotal stories about that
sort of thing good to me.
Well, these are these are the times when these things happen
where people turn.
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Now he wants karma for his son Matt. Cable who's deploying
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It's no joke. All right karma coming up for
him. Of course those shows are meant to humiliate these people
now not Matt. Dan Coleman at 205 He's going to be a knight. He's
going to be the knighted Knight today I want to
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okay
what do we got?
I got a couple things I was hoping you would have
oh, I got a bunch of stuff left here. Yeah wraps them. So let's
do some here's some reports from that we don't get in the United
States at all. I don't know why this one doesn't get some play.
But let's play killing mayor's in Mexico. Yes,
it's a new sparkling it's a new sport in
Mexico. Human rights groups and family members are demanding
justice after the mayor of a town in the southern state of
Oaxaca was gunned down New Year's Day just hours after
taking office. Alejandro Aparicio was surrounded by
supporters and publicly touring city offices when he was shot on
the street. The gunman was pinned to the ground until
police could arrive to arrest him. He's been described as a 34
year old former police officer from northern Mexico. A police
CEOs widow Victoria feria believes the killer and not did
not act on his own
was gonna say I got the little posse there but it says he wants
to do everything possible to clarify this murder because
there can be no impunity. That is what we are asking for as a
family to clarify the killing and to support us
up at East EO was a member of the Progressive Party of Mexican
president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. His death came as human
rights researchers said 175 Mexican politicians were killed
over a 12 month period ending last August.
Geez. dropping like flies way to go. running our country. Yeah,
now they're on. I don't know why this didn't get more played,
because you could have had a lot of fun with it. I only have a
very short report from the Canadian Broadcasting Company on
the German hack.
Oh, yes. There's very little there's some European reporting
that I picked up. I'm glad you have a clip in Germany,
hundreds of politicians at all levels of government have been
hit by a massive data breach. It reportedly includes addresses
cell phone numbers, credit card details, internal
communications, at least some of it was leaked through Twitter.
We don't know who's behind the breach, but officials say all
that one party was specifically targeted.
Now let's just stop for a second here.
But let's stop pursuing an S which is the party that wasn't
targeted.
The AFD. Okay, yeah, it's the you know, the
new guys. The Trump guys basically, the model that make
the Margot's that make Germany great again, people the
alternative and fear Deutschland AFD. But it wasn't just
politician was also celebrate ease. There's all kinds of stuff
in here. And it's from Cloud account. It's not just from
in fact, thank you cloud.
Yeah, it's
Yeah, it seems like
seems like there's some good stuff out there. It's the same.
You know, this.
If anybody we have a lot of dudes, they benefit anyone can
get us a I'm sure. I don't know what the size of this file is.
But I'd sure like to take a look at this stuff.
Yeah. How about this Dark Overlord thing though? This is
not getting a lot of play. But I'm seeing people getting very
worried about this. This is the this is the group, the Dark
Overlord, who are New Year's Eve says, Hey, we have 18,000
documents related to September 11 2001 terrorist attacks, in
particular documentation about the insurance policies of I
guess the World Trade Center all buildings guy
who bought it who bought the Trade Center? Like if not so
long before the collapses? Yeah, it was. So it was well known.
They took out these big insurance policies just before
the thing was leveled.
Well, so they're slowly releasing pieces of information,
which nothing earth shattering yet, but it does seem like
people in Washington are worried about this. I'm not quite sure
why what do they have to hide? There must be something there
must be something worried about. And they say pay the EFF up or
we're going to bury you in this as the Dark Overlord group or
the Dark Overlord person.
And money he asked and they bought,
I don't think he's asking for money. Is he is asking for
money. They What are they doing? Yeah, however, you'll be paying
us. Yeah. So he wants to be paid. Or they want to be paid.
They I guess they've released some decryption keys, which do
unlock some some documents that have some proof. Well, that's
the same with the Tribune Company. That was that was a
total ransomware problem they ran into
Yeah, that was recent. Yeah. Yeah. I think the ransomware
thing was over. I thought people had protections against that.
New scheme.
No. Oh.
And then this obvious one,
a spa the spook spot Okay, everybody wants to spoon. Yeah,
pretty sure your clip is going to be similar to mine but for
the moment this is Russia's word against whaling and wetlands
family. This is the American
Whelan wh e le N, who has been detained in Russia as a spies.
What? Russia say that he was caught red handed in the act of
espionage and Wayland family insist he was just there for a
wedding, where his lawyer is now seeking bail and Russian courts
have to 24th to decide. Russian media is also claiming now that
Whelan spent the last decade developing a network of contacts
in Russia using social media leading up to his arrest last
week, supposedly with a flash drive containing a list of
employees from a secret Russian department, Whelan's family, it
says he just loves traveling. He loves Russia, and he was helping
to arrange a friend's wedding. Much remains unknown about
Whelan who lives in this house in Michigan, it's emerged that
he is also a Canadian citizen, a British citizen, possibly an
Irish citizen. And today, the British Foreign Minister also
spoke out.
I'm telling you, you got four passports. You know, I love the
cover. I talked to Agent Orange about this, the cover of him
having an honorable discharge from the military total cover.
This guy is a spoke da Hello. Is
this like questions of all what? Oh, it does. Oh, and of course
it's retaliation for locking up the Russian spy is my Bettina.
What's your name? Yeah,
I can't remember name. Yeah, it's because they're
not registered agents, you have to understand in the
intelligence game, you have registered agents if you're an
agent for another country, which usually means you're just paying
off people with money. It's called lobbying in America.
You're a spy and you register
to be a diplomat. Spy, diplomat, Spy, same thing.
And if you don't if you're not registered, and every country
has unregistered agents in each other's countries, you get
caught now are they there's pretty much they're known to be
agents. Hey, you take one of ours good one, take one of
yours. Take the difference is the FSB will actually tell
everyone what this guy did. We don't even know we don't have
anything on Bettina other than when she was lobbying to sleep.
I don't know what she did. That's one of the reasons it's
the one of
the funny bits about it. So yes, and no agenda confirms the guy's
got to be a book, of course,
for passports.
You know what, he's just that passport hobbyist. Want to see
how many countries I get to come get a passport? That's my job.
That's what I do. You really
I mean? So, you know, if you have a, it's not easy to get
multiple passports as a US citizen.
They do complain, you know?
Like, what do you want to be a US citizen or something else?
Well, in my daughter's case, my mom's Dutch. Okay. We'll allow
that. And then you know what I was at four different countries.
No, no, no,
no, that's all we know of he may have other passports buried
somewhere?
You just don't know. Yes.
All right. I don't have a clip on that. But I just thought it
would be worth discussing. I do have some more other weird stuff
that is not being discussed, oh, we do have the flu season thing
happening. It's not being promoted as much in this
country. But apparently this last batch of the flu has
already killed a few people. But in Canada, they're all freaked
out because it got off to an early start and started
spreading before anyone could do much about so let's play our
gratuitous and probably yearly flu season clip,
shaping up to be a particularly brutal flu season in Canada. Now
of course, the flu can be more than just unpleasant it can be
dangerous and even deadly. Well, new numbers are out today. And
the number of cases has gone through the roof and one
particular strain is doing most of the damage. So far this flu
season, there have been more than 13,000 lab confirmed cases
in Canada 11,000 of those were variations of influenza A with h
one and one as the dominant strain. It's a big jump in cases
nearly 50% over this time last year, with about two thirds of
them hitting young otherwise healthy adults, those people who
might not think they're particularly vulnerable, but
that's how h one n one tends to operate already.
Isn't this the swine flu? H one n one is swine flu.
I think h one n one is swine flu. But it's not. But it's not
version A Oh, I think because if they if it is anything close to
swine flu, they always call it swine flu. I don't know now that
you mentioned it, you're right.
24 Canadians have died. Now Health officials say it's not
too late to get the flu shot far from there's still months left
in the season. And what's more, this year's vaccine is proving
more effective than in years past now
it's the bird flu h one n one is the bird flu
dot h one In five was the bird flu okay good let it play
figured out as Kaspersky tells us, that is welcome news for
those who've been devastated by the virus in the worst possible
way. There's two for this crackers. No swine flu
the flu season is an unusually painful time of the year for
Jill promotionally. In 2016, her little boy Jude died from the
flu, even though he'd been vaccinated a few months earlier.
So when we get to this point every year it's it's stressful
all over again. And I'm just really sad because I know there
are going to be 1000s and more families like mine, where people
are going to lose their lives and their loved ones from this
preventable disease.
Health officials have said it's rare for people to die from
infectious diseases they've been vaccinated against.
It is the swine flu. Yeah. H one n one is the swine flu wears.
That idea played the jingle. Well, this
is Canada, so they're not pushing that dead meme. And
maybe that has something to do it. So bird flu is h five and
one
I remember getting swine flu when I was in San Francisco.
What it cost?
I just remember being in bed for a couple days I stopped smoking
and I was good.
I'm still here Tamiflu. No, no,
I even knew you at the time you hadn't even didn't even offer to
let me suffer. Thanks,
buddy. I'll remember this. This is a new story, microservices
architecture moving right along your speciality your beat my
complaint, your complaint, but also your beat is CenturyLink
CenturyLink 911. network call outage. Did you look into this?
Did you find out what this was? Yeah, it was
a network of some sort of network card that blew up. It
was just a hardware failure. Oh, really? Like was anything else
in a microservices architected environment? One thing goes out,
there's more than one or two single points of failure. And I
mean, it doesn't have to be you can have redundancy. If you
weren't, but no, no, why why bother? I was able to happen to
the checksum. What happened to CRC? There were all these
things. They used to have memories. I remember when the
IBM PC came out did have you could buy cheap memory, which
had all the bits and then there was more expensive memory that
had the load a little extra chip, a parity chip to make sure
that the memory was doing its thing. And it was accurate. You
had the parity chip? Yeah. Yeah. cost too much where they don't
even work. 90% It's who cares? We
don't Oh, I didn't know anything about this. What is this magical
chip do?
The magical chip? I
think it could maintain? I'm not sure anymore. I used to know.
But I think it maintains some like a checksum value for the
what was in the memory itself? And if that, and it would check
against it.
Right? If it got it rhythm. Yeah. And if you've got a
different hash or a different checks on
something, and then it was said, I noticed no goodness, memories
gone bad. And that we don't have that anymore. There's no reason
for it. Because it's like the failure rate is so low, right
with the way things are that you don't care. And so you just let
this thing slide. I think that's what happened with this. Instead
of having a backup a redundant network card. I'm pretty sure it
does what it was, from what I read. Yeah. No, it's fine.
I was able to find a clip with someone in charge over there at
CenturyLink.
For the first time since this outage, I was able to talk to
someone from CenturyLink on camera just a short time ago.
The bottom line here is that well, yes, this system is back
up and running. They still don't know exactly what went wrong,
and they're trying to figure that out. What are you doing to
make sure something like this doesn't happen again?
It's a great question. That's not really where it's at now we
feel very confident the system is stable. It's up and running.
We don't anticipate any issues days
after a 911 outage in Washington caused 4500 calls to fail.
CenturyLink that telecommunications company
responsible says they're narrowing in on the problem, but
still can't tell us exactly what caused that six hour failure.
They know the outage was due to a technical error and a third
party vendors call router is the one I asked what that technical
error was. They said they don't know.
So right now we need to break down every point of contact
between the 911 Center in Washington or centers and the
center of CenturyLink data centers as well to make sure we
have exactly found the reason for the outage, and how are we
going to fix it implemented in the future.
The Washington Emergency Management Division believes the
911 system is stable now, but it still wants assurances from
Century Lake. Something like
this won't happen again. The thing about this clip from 2014
and they were fined $16 million for it.
No one told you that, huh? Second time this has happened
with these guys.
This is the problem with this architect this microservices
architecture. And he is probably right. I mean, I don't see how
you get things back online without knowing what cost
but I just can't believe that this is from 2014. And now we're
five years later and it happens again today
exact same thing. I'm sure it
is the exact same thing.
Yeah, he has a single point of failure that failed again and
again, apparently works for five years failed to get a waiver
five years and it stops working. I mean, this happens if anyone
has had a, you know, nowadays, we start to see the evidence of
this, of this of a hardware issues in the environment.
Because when, when in this late 70s, eight, and throughout the
entire 80s, and then probably half of the 90s, we were buying
brand new computers at the rate of about one every year and a
half. So if you had a computer, you had to get a new one every
year and a half to two years, two years is really keeping an
old clunker alive. Because of all these new drivers and the
new peripherals and all these other things you're buying and
the new chips made a difference. So you are buying in the 80s for
sure you are buying a new computer every year and a half.
But since most recently, we don't have to failure if there's
nothing happening that's so important that we got to get a
new computer is the same old Microsoft Office, it's the same
old Intel chips, you know, you don't need to do any so you keep
the machines longer. And now we're starting to see that they
do crap out. After about five years most computers, if you
have one old five year old computer, the likelihood of it
blowing up is pretty high. Okay, we're seeing actually exploding
a real kinetic event.
It actually happened was in one of mine. Pack a pastor blew up
and said it sounded like alarm was kept going. We'll do it for
you. Metal. But the point is, is that these machines don't last
forever. No.
And I think Apple is going to start putting more of that not
lasting forever into their new devices because
I got to do some I got to get people upgrading.
Well, they say they're so slack on the Mac. They don't want to
really they're not doing enough work there. So they're not
selling enough. And they would they I think with the iPhone, it
just breaks constantly. I think most I don't know anyone without
a broken one. Well, you mean the
glass? Yeah, yeah. That's that's the weakest part.
That's really their their main thing. That's but I'm, you know,
I'm around a lot of millennials lately. Certainly in the
Christmas break. They all got crack screens. They don't care.
They're not not replacing magic screens cracked. Maybe I'll go
and get it fixed. Maybe not. As long as they can still see it.
It's just too expensive. I
can't afford it.
I don't know the next phone I'm getting because my phone is
finally getting pretty. Yeah. Which
one do you have?
I still have a Nexus galaxy. Nice. And the cool thing about
is you could take the back off and change the battery. Yes. But
I think I'm gonna get a Huawei.
Why don't you just go for the e 71. The Nokia like I have it
fits your image. I think I already have one. You probably
do.
I have an original.
It's such a good phone. Yeah, it was a good phone in this day.
Still a great phone. It's got a nice keyboard.
It's got a great keyboard. We can go on like this forever.
If I've tried them all nice finish is pretty
it does. I dropped it the other
day stepping out of the truck. Yeah, yeah, nothing.
You had no, the phone when that all you got. But you had
instance in your past where you dropped him phone into toilet.
That was the very first iPhone. That was the first IV 71
and a toilet. You think it would survive? Hell yeah. I know what
those buttons in the mechanics?
Oh, yeah, sure. Definitely. I've dropped 70 ones in the toilet
before I've dropped it in all kinds of stuff. It's an
indestructible foam. You know, the Symbian OS is has been open
sourced. Someone could totally rejigger that for for all kinds
of different hardware.
I don't know why somebody hasn't. Yeah.
I used to write columns about this. You know, when somebody
abandons things, sometimes they, you know, sometimes they can
sometimes they can't I mean, with the OS two I always thought
should have been put into the public domain by IBM. But
apparently some you know, the problem with doing that there's
some stuff that probably was like maybe shouldn't be in there
and when anyone's seen it, who knows. But I think if you've
abandoned a product, I think you should push it into the public
domain because a lot of people may have been reliant on the
product.
Yeah, Microsoft is doing a lot of that
actually.
They're there. A lot of their older stuff. They're
open sourcing, dos six. I'm telling you Microsoft
will run on Linux in our lifetime. The windows. Way
there'll be Windows on top of Linux. I'm telling you, it's
coming. It's coming possible. Quick look in. This is now act
eight of the yellow vests in Fire City to keep up with over
the weekend. It has, oh, yeah, it's not the same amount of
people. It's only 50,000 across the country, the majority the in
in Paris.
It's the yellow vest movements first round of protests in 2019.
And many say they're determined to continue all year. On
Saturday at least 50,000 protesters came out across
France for the eighth straight week of demonstrations. Though
the protests remain largely peaceful in the morning. clashes
with authorities broke out in multiple cities early on into
the evening in central Paris riders torched cars and set
barricades on fire. Elsewhere in the capital protesters launched
projectiles that police officers responded with tear gas.
Now you remember McCrone? In his New Year's address, we played
the clip. He said oh, these are just the people who hate the
Jews. They hate the LGBT they just hate this is horrible
haters,
though the scale of the protests has decreased and you'd
like my Macron was pretty good.
Like a Lebanese merchant
vowed to continue mobilizing, saying the government's recent
concessions are not enough.
We've been tightening our belts for 1520 years we've had enough
we're still in an era of nobles and serfs in 2019.
We've had enough of being dragged around by those in power
who look down on us. You look down on the people who trample
all over us of Maccon who says we're nothing that we're a crowd
full of hate. Even though we've just shown that this
demonstration was amazing, peaceful that there was no
trouble.
In response to Saturday's tensions. Interior Minister
Christophe Castaneda held an emergency crisis response
meeting in the Capitol and urged protesters to respect the rule
of law.
I stand with the yellow vests man these guys are great. Those
are patriots right? They're not given up Screw you.
What do you say we
still live in the land of sirs and
lords here.
Now since the French can only put up with so much yeah.
And they and I know they won't quit they will not quit
good on him.
They probably won't quit and to discredit which brings us to the
begs the question. What's going to happen? Yeah, I don't know.
It's not going to get prettier.
Says thorn in the side of the EU, they're going to have to, I
don't know this is not going to work out to as far as I can tell
how bad things are gonna happen.
All right, you got one last one to get us out of here. You got
anything? Well, first,
before I get out of here, I do want to say I did put an AMI ISO
together wanted to play that swing. See if it's any good.
I have the this is what I was planning. Thank you for your
courage. That's what I was planning as ISO of the
day it was. I actually had that one.
Oh, but it lost out to
this one which the Trump administration unilaterally
pulled out of last year. No.
It's funny.
But I like util Lowry.
No, no, no, Nancy is much more for you right now. It's Nancy.
Nancy wins.
I've got a thing on guns. The dairy industry being de
emphasized up in Canada, which is a big deal. I have it Oh,
there's another unreported thing democracy now report on the
Iranians are sending satellites up and they think it's just a
cheap trick to get their ballistic missile program
together. Space. Canadian perspective was always good of
the shutdown. Yeah, okay. Go to dairy dairies.
We're doing dairy people, here comes all those New Year's
resolutions to eat healthier, and soon there'll be a new
Canada food guide to help you along. It's something lots of us
probably learned about in school and then maybe took for granted
but Health Canada has been working on an overhaul. It's
coming in a few months and today, we're getting an idea of
what could change. draft copy recommends Canadians eat a
variety of healthy foods each day. Pretty straightforward,
right? But potentially the biggest change dairy products
may disappear as their own food group instead lumped in with
proteins. What
don't get my dairy and my proteins people.
We lucky chip is a vegetable.
We love you guys up there. And that wraps it up for today's
deconstruction. I'll be watching the globes tonight. See if
there's anything there. See if anyone's really funny. I have
low expectations. But we will.
We'll do up and down now. We'll return
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Unbelievable. For California. We live in a desert Jhansi Dvorak
and want to thank Tom Starkweather Matt Bosch and Sir
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mofos and such
I just have this vision of you sitting up there in your office
on the hill. And watching the trains go by it goes one now
marking it down in your little notebook. Definitely the little
no praline, calling income quarters every calling and
complaints
was here, but it's rolling around the band. Started no
agenda. It's late again. So I write it in the notebook and
call up to play. Design a closet for for service goals and
terrain. Oh my God. Listen to that guy.
People must just be thinking, how are these guys doing?
There are so many haters out there whatever's going on in the
internet. Don't pay attention to them. If everybody's putting out
who's going to click on or who they're going to watch.
They don't have a political bias other than cash
frustration, depression you get from the President that he would
like to not only close government, build a wall, but
also abolish Congress.
But once you get to like the tippy tops,
National Parks are getting a bit messy as they're operating on a
skeleton staff with limited resources, aka no restrooms or
trash collection. Bathrooms that kind of a challenge though.
Tom, do you don't have the answers though? Because you're
trying to give me advice about something you ain't. You ain't
got to ask.
Mr. Trump also told lawmakers he didn't like the word shutdown,
to ask
to give up a concrete wall replace it with a steel fence in
order to do that so
that Democrats can say see, he's not building a wall anymore.
Well, then,
I don't know. You'd have to ask her psychiatrist, because we're
gonna go in there. We're gonna impeach the Mother Teresa.
Go find that device. Miko told the president we needed the
government open. He resisted. In fact, he said he'd keep the
government closed for a very long period of time months or
even years where we are
absolutely I said that your steel is stronger than concrete.
Okay, guys, yeah, you can check it out
we've set up a lot of the freeze play games that lady is
irradiated. Get the intro in the morning but wait there's
something wrong Jhansi tells us the status MoPhO
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