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Oh, Adam curry, John C Devorah.

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Sunday June 17 2018. This is
your award winning give nation

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media assassination episode
1043.

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This is no agenda.

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Collecting kids in cages and
broadcasting live from the

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Capitol to drone Star state here
in downtown Boston Tea House in

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the colonial in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley
we're I'm wishing everybody a

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Happy Father's Day. I'm John C.
Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.

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Oh, yes, indeed. In the morning
and Happy Father's Day to you.

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Same to you. Have you had a nice
Father's Day so far?

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Just got up

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Vulcraft here's a question for
you for this from one podcaster

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to another. Did the kids wake
Daddy up at 6am for his work

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with a nice breakfast in bed?
No. I got a short vision of that

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myself. Yeah.

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Didn't think that would happen.
I've ever had breakfast in bed

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from the kids.

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I want that's not a Father's Day
thing. It's a Mother's Day

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thing, I guess. Yeah,

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I think so. Yeah. Because I
think that the dads it get you

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get out of here and try to get
some sleep.

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Get out here.

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But the kids are there. are they
dropping by

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everybody? So both kind of Jesse
and JC had to go to Michigan to

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attend the funeral. I

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saw. Yeah, I saw that on the on
the Instagrams that said

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sight day posted on the
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Yeah. No, it was it was a
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her dad and the adorable. The
adorbs and it was I'll miss you

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dad. So it was and it was a lot
of rip love and lights in the

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comments.

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Yeah, yeah. People don't know
who they are never heard of

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them. But

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rip love and light. Yeah.
Anyway. Yeah, like I got my

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text. This year. I got a text
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social nets. I'm not really on
Instagram. I don't post anything

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on a look. They're rarely maybe
twice a week. So I just got a

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text now. Love you daddy. Okay,
just when your kids nearing 30

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Doesn't make any did doesn't
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as like, look,

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we know it was a bit much for
our listeners. I just the last

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time I'm doing either Mother's
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their mom but they hit their dad
too. If it

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just hate their parents. This
was a should generation. Guess

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what? Your kids hate you people.
We have proof. We have

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scientific peer reviewed
evidence evidence? Yeah, in

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general. Kids don't really care
about

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the one of the lowest turnouts
for our donations of the year of

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the last two years. It's that
bad. Yeah. See, when we resist

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somehow this dovetails into
parents being separated from

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their kids at the border. I'm
not quite sure how but it's

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somehow there's they're maybe
these parents don't maybe these

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kids know they're happy. But
yeah, finally separately.

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douchebags begging me all over
Mexico to get me here. And then

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independence. Finally, this was
a great topic. And I gotta say,

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when it comes to the rotation,
it's this topic in itself. This

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kids in cages and ripping
families apart, tearing children

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from their parents. It's, it has
it has all kinds of stuff.

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Michael Hayden, former what was
a hate? Hate and hate what was

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hated and torturer.

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What hate he's all for kids.
Sure he is. So

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he was former CIA. Correct. He
was the CIA and NSA. And so he

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posts a picture on social nets
on the tweets. And he says,

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yeah, there have been other
governments who separated

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children from their parents, and
it's a picture of Auschwitz.

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Sophie's Choice comes to mind.

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Really? I mean, that is throw

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me somebody you know, he should
I believe he should lay low.

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Yeah, cuz he's gonna get there's
gonna be some version of a

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Nuremberg trial, eventually,
they'll probably be hanging. But

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it's this. And I don't know if I
want to give the back. I did

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some research on this. I don't
have an

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either way. This is the best
anti Trump stuff that the

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Democrats have come up with. And
they're, at least this time to

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just analyze it from an
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this time they're sticking with
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wandering off and right. moaning
and groaning about one thing or

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another.

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Focus what is in play here for
those of you and it really is

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interesting, because in this
case, Democrats and Republicans

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Since, and the Trump
administration and the media are

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officially and blatantly abusing
children, just abusing children

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for political means they don't
give a crap about these children

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to only abusing the situation.
And thus these children to on

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one hand, we have hit points.
Yeah. So, um, you know, there's

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a couple things that have not
been deconstructed in the media

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about what's really going Do you
have a background or that we

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play first or we just get into
it? Yeah. stuff. Yeah, you

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usually have to have a

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long background. It's a little
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let's do it. Because once we
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into it. Well,

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this will be we're gonna go with
the best. I went into

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legislation just because of you
know, it was necessary.

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Yeah. I went to the best and
done in other words, the most

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anti Trump Organization, which
is NBC, yes. And I put together

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a three parter. It's, it's
actually longer than it should

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be. But let's go with
immigration one hit piece.

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There was growing national
outrage tonight over the Trump

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administration's policy of
separating families who crossed

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this country's southern border.
Administration officials say

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they are simply enforcing
existing laws meant to

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discourage illegal immigration.
Opponents say the practice is an

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affront to American values. It's
all happening as a Republican

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bill is working its way through
Congress, a bill that would

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restrict the practice but also
fun to the President's

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controversial border wall. We
began our coverage tonight with

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NBC is Gotti Schwartz, who is
near the border in California.

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So I'll just just briefly pause
for a second. That's how the

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Trump administration and the
Republicans are abusing children

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is by using this very point,
which I think the Democrats have

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brought into play. I'm not even
sure they did. But they're

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abusing children for political
gain right here.

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They're building 10 cities near
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the Trump administration's
hardline immigration policy has

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had its intended effect. 1000s
of migrants swept up and

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detained after both illegal and
illegal border crossings. Many

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of them children 2000 already
separated from their parents in

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the last six weeks housed in a
former Walmart are small group

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homes like this one in San
Diego. If a family has both boys

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and girls as children, then the
siblings are separated. The

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girls live in a different
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It's not just near the border
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playing out on a porch in
Chicago some 2000 miles from the

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Tijuana border crossing where
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seeking asylum, her family now
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they wait for this call. His 18
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separated from her mother and
sisters and detained in

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California for more than a
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when when she might be able to
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able to see her mom again. And
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that migrant caravan legally
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of entry. She says gangs
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they found him in the field and
that he had been decapitated or

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returned home they say would be
certain death of Attorney

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General Jeff Sessions said this
week fear of gangs is no longer

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a reason to be granted safe
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justify the administration's new
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you to the apostle Paul in his
clear and wise command in Romans

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13 to obey the laws of the
government. Because God is up

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dying or dying the government
for his purposes, Ben sessions

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is high. What is that guy
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He's here. He is normally off
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I mean, of all the things to do
this but this wasn't some press

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thing was that he was just
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would be wanting to hear this.

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I'm not sure where that came
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networks, they have this this
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randomly taste from the camera.

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So Right. It's almost like the
instant replay room at Big NFL

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games. You know, there's a whole
separate truck, that's all they

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do all day is Get ready, get the
replays, rack them up, get the

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great spots put into Telestrator
all that stuff. That's what they

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must have at NBC for this kind
of stuff for B roll.

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Yeah, they just find all these
old things. And that's why they

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keep bringing, you know, they
keep constantly bringing in old

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Trump quotes from like the
campaign. And it's just and

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these are all random. There's no
real let's just put there for a

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sec. Just like it's like a rim
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piece. Yeah, they're kind of
silly hit but it kind of taken

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from us where we do all Yeah,
exactly. Or, you know, or any

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collusion, that kind of stuff.
Yeah, we do it.

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We do it for different reasons.
They're doing it to bamboozle

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the public. He said that what
did he say? He said that oh, by

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now that I think they're they're
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I also really, really Like that
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little different for NBC they
the getting it let me just

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wrap it up again. There was
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they're giving it this this kind
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you're watching something really
official, like really evil

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taking place or is this guy
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immigration raishin policy has
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illegal and illegal

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I mean it's it's I didn't notice
it but not you mentioned done

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for for effect is fantastic.
little nuances of the guy sounds

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like he's breaking some news.
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camera gazing. Really, I mean,
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18 year old, the 18 year old
daughter has been separated from

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her mother. And

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by the way, according to the
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versed in now. 18 is the cutoff
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an adult at the border. So
there's the this whatever that

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story was, it was at least
partially bullcrap. ATN is the

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legal cut off where you are
treated as an adult at the

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border. So that was just
disingenuous at best.

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I don't even know why they had
the Chicago clip in there. I

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think the guy needed to go to
Chicago to buy some some

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sausages. Hey, boy, I'll do it.
I'll do that before I go. To the

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bar from Chicago. What

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all right off you guy. Yeah. Do
this. Do the report from

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Chicago. All right, let's go.

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And tonight, an impromptu
protest outside of this facility

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here in San Diego with another
protest scheduled an even larger

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one in the town of tornio. Texas
on Father's Day, where a tent

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city has sprung up faster than
residents they're expected to

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just to put things in
perspective. torneo is a small

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town about 1500 people live
there. And when this tent city

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is up and running at full
capacity, it will mean that a

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fifth of the entire town's
population will be children

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separated from their families.

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And there is nothing better. And
this has been a no agenda staple

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actually. Nothing better than
abusing kids in the media. It's

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been done. Remember the was it
not the the the era Saddam

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Hussein's royal guard who came
in to the to the hospital and

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throw the children out of the
incubators onto the ground and

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stomped on.

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Yeah. That was the classic that
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going on forever. But yeah, and
that was all told totally

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bullcrap. Yeah. And it was
great, great theater.

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That's basic, that's been our
theme for many, many years, just

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long as you can bring children
into the equation in a

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compelling way. And just look if
you look at Twitter, and even

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when someone posts one of these
pictures, which is clearly from

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2014 That's now all

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the white age different 24 In
the case of

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a kid who's actually to protest
but it's looking up ah, you

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know, all of these pictures and
I have tracked down where some

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of those come from they actually
came from Texas you know, even

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though people in those in thread
will say hey, man, this is from

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2014 This is or mad do that. You
know, people will do that to

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God. And but they just keep on
going you know, these horrible

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people, they'll die in hell,
they'll hang or whatever. So and

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that's the abuse. You know,
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abused by the situation. Can we
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immigration politics. Today
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Democrats can fix their forced
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working with Republicans on new
legislation for a change. This

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White House video links and
alleged gang murder to rules

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affecting trials immigrants,

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the gang member reportedly
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glaring loopholes for
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One day after he distanced
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administration's zero tolerance
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separations.

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I hate to see separation of
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The President's strategy is to
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passage of immigration reforms
and border security. But outcry

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over the treatment of immigrant
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Republicans. Oklahoma Senator
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where he tells a constituent he
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is keep families together as
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families together.

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for Republican candidates.
Immigration is an issue that

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gets conservative voters to turn
out Build that wall. Congressman

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Dan Donovan has President
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month, Staten Island New York
primary today he also had his

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Lawyers campaign help. You know
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issues like immigration could
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The President's allies, like
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President's fate is on the line,

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like stop the possibility of a
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let's make sure that I don't
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anymore.

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President Trump plans to visit
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talk about strategy for two
immigration bills, the more

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conservative hardline approach
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open the door for a moderate
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the separation of families would
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immigrants known as dreamers.
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It's possible those votes could
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All right. So thanks. Sorry, no,
go ahead. Go ahead. Well, a

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couple of things. One, she says
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data. She never says Democrats
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no, of course that No, I mean,
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Well, they both have the same
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children, they both have the
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the base of it. But that's not
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And it's just there's a number
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because again, the Democrats
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into the be rural room trailer,
and pull out the clip of Rudy

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Giuliani saying let's don't talk
about impeachment. I know that

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was a little off. It's our
fault. Wall is right in the

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middle of this world. It's got
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nothing to do with this
mainstream, but they can't

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resist. And so you take that
laundry list, we have all the

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Trump laws. And it's just like
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focused on this one thing, which
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can't do it.

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question, and this while the
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don't have the answers who
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clear that the zero tolerance
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is should always be the
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law and you're supposed to
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okay, do you have a zero
tolerance policy? Fine. I

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thought you were all about law
and order to start with it, but

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then to say, well, because the
Democrats put this law in place,

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you know, that children are
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Meanwhile, the Republicans have
a bill, I think multiple bills

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going through going through the
process, which will fix this, at

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the same time that it raises 25
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the wall. So I'm pretty
suspicious here that this may

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not have been a Trump ploy to
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think he I don't think he gives
us now I'm not so sure, John,

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because he was pretty he really
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maybe not. He really wants to
get the wall done. And so

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someone, I think someone came
along and said, you know, here's

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a way we can do it, children.

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Well, that's a bit Charney
pitch. What's his name? Your

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buddy, Steve Pochamma, you know
that you? Would Botanik? Yeah,

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but genic. It's like the
pathetic thesis, you know, what

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you do looks like you're doing
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Now. Now let's look at the I
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just not buying it. But go on.
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so now let's look at the other
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this Total Gym, which I again,
I'd love to know where it was

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launched how it was launched,
it's impossible to do that on

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any of the search engines
anymore. It's polluted. It's

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very Yeah, you might be able to
do it on Twitter, but you don't

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have the right access and the
tool so it doesn't matter. They

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have this gym where they can
show no actual do horrible

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images. Now problematic is that
pretty much most of the images

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I've seen to date are ones that
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administration where this
practice was in full swing where

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it was taking place. And I'll
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it all this too, but nobody may
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that's exactly

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right. Here's Dianne Feinstein
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You introduced a bill this week
to stop the separation of

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undocumented parents and
undocumented children as they

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crossed the US border.

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Do you hear Do you hear? Oh,
yeah. Oh, yeah. So yes. Some a

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of Democrats are expressing
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treating undocumented
immigrants. We saw this photo

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making the rounds on social
media. Los Angeles Mayor, former

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Mayor Villaraigosa tweeted it
out. It's actually from it's

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undocumented children in a
holding cell, but it's actually

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from 2014 when President Obama
was president, there were a lot

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of things done to undocumented
immigrants, that the immigration

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the immigrant community was very
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years that Democrats didn't seem
as outspoken about out. What do

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you say to people who say, Where
was all this activism during the

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Obama years?

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I don't believe that it was
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today. Oh, sure. And candidly, I
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it at that time to focus on it.
Oh, I do know enough about it.

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her position at the time? Was
she not head honcho? during the

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Obama years?

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She was the well, I know what
you mean by head honcho, but she

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was definitely running a cup
number of committees that should

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have known about she should have
known Yes, you should

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have. But yeah, I wasn't paying
attention to it, because

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children didn't matter to me,
then they matter to me. Now,

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we have had a hearing in the
judiciary committee, we did have

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testimony, I know that at least
50 children a day are taken from

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their parents. And the thing is,
they're taken and no one knows

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what happens to them. Their
parents don't know how to find

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them. And you have now the first
person, the one of the fathers

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that died in jail. And I find it
just inhumane, callous, and

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something I never thought my
country would do. So it's very

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worrisome. And we've got to stop
it. And so we have written a

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bill, we have 31. co sponsors. I
hope we'll be able to get it out

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of the Judiciary Committee. It's
it's been introduced. And it

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would prohibit the taking of
children in this manner. And

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then it would provide a number
of criteria to remove a child

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what you'd have to have present.

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Okay, so now we know this has
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apparently, it's more severe now
because more people are crossing

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the border, which goes contrary
to everything I've heard from

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the Democrats was contrary to
the facts to the facts, possibly

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as well. But okay, so children
didn't matter. I wasn't really I

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didn't really have my attention,
because just fuck it children.

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Now. It's Oh. So I dive into
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understand it's true, though.
This

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is exactly right. Go down.
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Sorry. So I'm, I'm thinking all
right, well, then surely we can

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find this, this legislation
somewhere in the law. And it's

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interesting when you hear people
like Jeh Johnson, who came out

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of the woodworks to say, well,
actually, I'll let him say a

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facility that's

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essentially tents where some
children are staying. Is this

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how it's supposed to work? And?
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let's be clear, there is no law
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administration to separate
children from their parents. If

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there were such a law, I would
know about it, I would have

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known about it when I was in
office. And I would have heard

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about it if I tried to enforce
it. I have the greatest respect

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for the Border Patrol agents,
customs officers and immigration

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enforcement officers who used to
work for me, but I object highly

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to this current practice of
separating children from their

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moms and dads at the border. And
it's something that I feel

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obliged to speak out about,

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Oh, yes. To virtue signal about
now. Let's just go right back to

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Dianne Feinstein. She right
there set agreed and said, Yeah,

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this was happening to the Obama
years, but it's just children

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and care about him. Now,
Johnson, who was director of

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Department of Homeland Security,
security's security during the

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Obama years, he literally says,
I didn't know about it, even

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though it was taking place.
Okay, maybe you did. But the

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thing that's most important is
him saying, I know of no law.

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Now, on one hand, it's total
horseshit that he does that he

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knows that this is not was not
being done. But he's kind of

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right about the law part. And
that's where it becomes really

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interesting in this case. That
was the California Democrats in

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85, who were horrified by
families being put into

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detention centers after trying
to enter the United States

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illegally. And they put they
really went all out all in this

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is horrible. This can't be
you've got children in this in

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horrible circumstances, you
know, there was rapists and

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murderers and now they're with
their parents, but rapists and

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murderers and we we have to take
care please think of the

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children. And so there was a it
took, like almost a decade for

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the Flores settlement. So also
known as the Flores agreement,

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FL o RAS to come into play and
be enacted. It actually, the

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final settlement took place in I
think was 85. But then there was

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a Supreme Court ruling on it in
97. And there was yet another

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ruling in 2016 And what they
came up with is a consent

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decree, not a law, but a consent
decree decree. And there's some

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legality to that, which states
very specifically, the

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government is required to
release children from

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immigration detention without
unnecessary delay to in order of

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preference parents, other adult
relatives, or licensed programs

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are willing to accept custody.
If a suitable placement is not

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available, the government is
obligated to place children in

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the least restrictive setting
appropriate to the age at any

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special needs, turns out tents
are reasonable. And the third

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part is the government must
implement standards relating to

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the care and treatment of
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So it was because of the
children, that the Flores

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settlement came into play by
consent decree because I don't

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know maybe they had no time or
they're too chickenshit, to

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bring it up and pass some actual
immigration or make it a part of

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comprehensive immigration
reform. But when you have a

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consent decree, which has been
signed off on it with the

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Supreme Court as one of the
parties, there's only two ways

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this can be Well, in this case,
three ways this can be changed

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one, both parties consent to
changing the consent decree, the

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Supreme Court, as the only court
could actually overrule this, or

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you can pass a law, and then
this thing will just fall away

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into nothingness. But to say
that they didn't know and if

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this wasn't happening, when it
was their idea, California

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Democrats in particular, is just
an outrageous abuse of children.

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You are the child abusers. abuse

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of children is also a big lie
that they're always complaining

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about.

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It's it's, this was a very well
publicized Well, I'm sorry, for

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the uninformed public who the
hell knows. But it was well

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publicized. There's a lot of
information on it. And so yeah,

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Jay Johnson Sure. It wasn't a
lot you if it was a lie, I would

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have known about it. Now. You
know exactly what's going on.

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You're full of shit and your
virtue signaling and you're a

451
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:11,880
liar. And everybody is just
abusing these children for this

452
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:18,780
very, very same point of winning
political points and turning the

453
00:27:18,780 --> 00:27:21,630
midterm elections in their
favor. It's that's what's

454
00:27:21,630 --> 00:27:22,110
sickening,

455
00:27:22,290 --> 00:27:24,120
that you're doing a good job.

456
00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:28,890
They're doing a great job. And
people are so stupid. They just

457
00:27:28,890 --> 00:27:33,720
like they see a picture.
Picture. Just freaking out like

458
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:34,020
it's

459
00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:36,720
now the time code, please.

460
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,400
See the whole show? Because I
can't I was reviewing it this

461
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,170
morning, again, just what people
are writing and how they're all

462
00:27:46,170 --> 00:27:52,560
in and you don't have to search
very far. Look, I'm a VJ. I

463
00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:56,430
know, I know. According to some
I'm a washed up VJ,

464
00:27:56,790 --> 00:27:57,720
you're washed up.

465
00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:02,220
I should be able anybody can
find this. Come on. It's not

466
00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:05,970
that hard. You don't want to
find it. Oh, my

467
00:28:05,970 --> 00:28:08,640
goodness. It really got me. It
bothers me.

468
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,560
It's the it's the Republicans,
because really deep down inside

469
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,650
the Republican Party, if I
didn't kind of pointed this out

470
00:28:16,650 --> 00:28:21,480
in the newsletter, yes. The Yes,
you did. The Republicans. I

471
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,780
mean, we have to be realistic
about the Republicans there.

472
00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:29,700
Besides being generally useless.
They don't like Trump, probably

473
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:34,410
none of them do. No. And, and
the Democrats hate Trump and the

474
00:28:34,410 --> 00:28:37,980
Republicans can't really say
they hate Trump, but they kind

475
00:28:38,010 --> 00:28:42,840
of hate Trump. And so this guy,
he doesn't really have enough

476
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,600
allies to go out and pull off
some of these, you know,

477
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,500
educational necessities, like
telling people about the facts

478
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:54,090
of the matter, right? No, he's
not. And he doesn't seem to care

479
00:28:54,090 --> 00:28:57,750
that much. He just has his one
or two pitches that he has, oh,

480
00:28:57,750 --> 00:29:01,110
the Democrats could fix it is
right to

481
00:29:01,170 --> 00:29:05,460
know, he That's right. They
don't have a mean. They're mean

482
00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:09,750
was the Democrats can fix it.
But I think even Trump, he's

483
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:13,380
underestimated the power of
these pictures. It doesn't

484
00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:16,320
matter if it's if it was a
picture in black and white,

485
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,610
clearly from the 1800s people
would believe it. It's just that

486
00:29:20,670 --> 00:29:24,510
and now what's happened since
this morning. This, of course,

487
00:29:24,510 --> 00:29:29,070
was all architected by Stephen
Miller. You see, Stephen Miller,

488
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,250
and you can just go on on
Twitter right now and you just

489
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,820
look for Stephen Miller. There
are pictures of him side by side

490
00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:40,980
with with Gubbels which of
course was Hitler's PR guy is

491
00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:44,640
propaganda guy. They look kind
of the same. I'll make sense

492
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,860
this guy he what he hates
children.

493
00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:50,820
To say yes,

494
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,120
yes. And this is what slate

495
00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:57,420
the White House seems to be
divided slate by the Washington

496
00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:57,900
Post.

497
00:29:58,260 --> 00:30:04,830
That was it a WaPo Yep, okay.
President Donald Trump ended up

498
00:30:04,860 --> 00:30:07,110
backtracking like his
predecessor to the idea of

499
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:09,960
ripping crying children from the
arms with their parents simply

500
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,500
seem too cruel. Nevermind
politically dangerous, but some

501
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,230
of the administration, most
notably senior policy adviser

502
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:19,800
Stephen Miller, continued to
push the idea. Now, Miller has

503
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:22,710
emerged as one of the staunch
defenders of the controversial

504
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:25,890
move. No nation can have the
policy that whole classes of

505
00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:28,080
people are immune from
immigration law enforcement,

506
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,390
Miller told The Times in
interview, there was a simple

507
00:30:30,390 --> 00:30:33,150
decision by the administration
to have a zero tolerance policy

508
00:30:33,150 --> 00:30:36,450
for illegal entry period. The
message is that no one is exempt

509
00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:37,920
from immigration law.

510
00:30:38,249 --> 00:30:42,209
Miller was one of the guys a
year ago and we were seeing who

511
00:30:42,209 --> 00:30:45,539
was being targeted to get him to
quit or get out of the White

512
00:30:45,539 --> 00:30:49,319
House. Yeah, he was one of the
two guys leftover that didn't

513
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:54,179
get kicked out by public
relations. Right. So he's,

514
00:30:54,329 --> 00:30:58,619
obviously they're retargeting
him, because he, you know, do

515
00:30:58,619 --> 00:30:59,009
Oh, no,

516
00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:02,039
of course he needs to be
retargeted. Yeah. Oh,

517
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,829
absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah.

518
00:31:07,230 --> 00:31:10,170
I'm looking at right here, Steve
and I looking at the list of

519
00:31:10,170 --> 00:31:14,160
stuff on the on the being it.
Stephen Miller, Trump's right

520
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,850
hand troll. Great. Hey,

521
00:31:17,850 --> 00:31:22,350
can I be is the position for
left hand troll open? Again. I'd

522
00:31:22,350 --> 00:31:22,860
like Lee's

523
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:25,920
right hand draw and it's in the
Atlantic and we should remember

524
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,890
that. Lorraine jobs is is

525
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:33,390
yes, yes. Yes. That was
something else I was gonna say.

526
00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:38,310
I can't remember what it was
about how stupid Republicans

527
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:42,600
are. Anyway, this whole thing is

528
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,830
it's unfortunate affiliated
people non affiliated. Yeah,

529
00:31:49,890 --> 00:31:52,860
yeah. really independent. These
two parties. They shouldn't

530
00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:53,610
exist.

531
00:31:54,210 --> 00:31:57,060
It's it's just it's
unbelievable.

532
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,610
Dumb and Dumber. Yeah. Okay.

533
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,820
But how people buy into it is
really,

534
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,730
it is it is line and sinker. It
is just

535
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,170
it's it borders on?

536
00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:10,769
Flight. Well, you know, and
again, it's gotten worse with

537
00:32:10,769 --> 00:32:11,489
social media. Of

538
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,990
course it has and this is what
Professor Ted would say. We're

539
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:19,980
now so messed up in our heads
and social media is not

540
00:32:19,980 --> 00:32:20,970
untangling it.

541
00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:25,230
It's not, that's never gonna
happen.

542
00:32:25,230 --> 00:32:30,240
No, it's not. It's not. Oh, man.
Oh, I think we can move away. I

543
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,710
don't have any more on the
topic. We'll just

544
00:32:31,710 --> 00:32:34,590
not but you said you email.
Giuliani came up in the camera

545
00:32:34,590 --> 00:32:37,350
says I do have to play this off
the wall clip. This was during

546
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:43,170
Sarah Sanders recent press
meeting. And it's weird. Rudy

547
00:32:43,170 --> 00:32:45,960
question came up. I didn't I
haven't followed up. I didn't do

548
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,010
any research. But I just think
it was so odd that this question

549
00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:53,970
came up and Giuliani by the way
is probably he's the guy should

550
00:32:53,970 --> 00:32:59,190
go this guy's unless they want
him to be loose cannon. Hey, we

551
00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:01,110
played this. Sorry.

552
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,730
Rudy Giuliani spent 20 minutes
today talking with one of our

553
00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:08,790
reporters about his love life
and proclaims that his words.

554
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:12,450
He's not going to be a priest.
If you separate it from his

555
00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:16,860
third wife becomes too big of a
distraction to the point where

556
00:33:16,890 --> 00:33:20,250
the President was gonna get over
a lawyer and then also on that

557
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,890
he said his ex to to be ex
Judith called the President last

558
00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:24,120
week. Can you tell us what they
talked about?

559
00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:29,520
I'm not today or tomorrow or at
any point ever going to comment

560
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,470
on Rudy Giuliani's love life. I
will be glad to leave that to

561
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:39,000
you and the reporter that spoke
with him. And I'm not aware of a

562
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,100
call and don't have any
information on that. Jim, sir.

563
00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:42,510
Yeah,

564
00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:48,000
yeah, this you know, I think
Giuliani The reason he's hanging

565
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,440
around and has given so much
grace is he's got something he

566
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,450
has something and I I think it
pertains to what the New York

567
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,100
Police or FBI have on the Weiner
laptop there's this some reason

568
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:05,550
for him being kept this closely
for no obvious reason.

569
00:34:07,710 --> 00:34:12,660
Yes, there's no obvious reason
he's kind of a clown. He's

570
00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:16,860
saying stupid crap all the time.
I think it's an embarrassment

571
00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:18,930
bringing up the impeachment
thing is right like working for

572
00:34:18,930 --> 00:34:22,500
the wrong side. Yeah. For that,
but he Yeah, he's just hanging

573
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:27,000
around and he's claims to it may
be part of a scheme

574
00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:30,690
Well, that's what I'm thinking
I'm thinking smoke Yeah, but

575
00:34:30,690 --> 00:34:33,750
he's just might not know not
that or not that he has anything

576
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:37,380
on anybody, but just that he can
be as he's like a smokescreen.

577
00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:42,660
He draws attention to himself.
It may it's almost as though

578
00:34:42,660 --> 00:34:47,010
it's a Roger Stone kind of, of a
play. You have some guy this

579
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:55,290
just could be shouldn't be there
doing stuff could be. Well, I

580
00:34:55,290 --> 00:34:58,410
really do think that Roger Stone
right now is at work.

581
00:34:59,670 --> 00:35:02,100
While he He's in. He's in play.
He's got his book out. He's

582
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:05,430
doing interview. So he is
around. So he's he may be he may

583
00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:10,800
be I don't know, we did get
another NBC fatality. That's the

584
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:17,670
target and BC Yeah. And that was
Chris Hardwick. Right. Yeah. You

585
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:19,440
had the same response I had who?

586
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:23,519
I know. I know. I've seen him. I
can kind of visualize the guy.

587
00:35:23,579 --> 00:35:26,519
Yeah. I don't know the basics of
how they get. He's got him.

588
00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:31,710
Oh, well, this Chloe Dykstra and
Chloe Dykstra thing, right,

589
00:35:31,710 --> 00:35:34,470
right. Yeah. Do you know more
about this, because I really

590
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:36,180
don't know that much about this
particular I

591
00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:40,260
looked into it. Not to mention
it. I did look into it and get

592
00:35:40,260 --> 00:35:43,620
those no clips available. Chloe
Dykstra wrote a if you look at

593
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:46,230
her the problem I have with
Floyd Dykstra is something she

594
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:50,340
posted on Twitter. She is
describing it seems to me in her

595
00:35:50,340 --> 00:35:53,700
medium article, something of an
s&m relationship.

596
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,400
Well, definitely a slave master.
Yeah.

597
00:35:56,879 --> 00:36:02,279
And she has a picture on on her
Twitter of her in some sort of a

598
00:36:02,279 --> 00:36:03,509
bondage house is

599
00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:07,230
what you do so well. You go in
and you look at people's media,

600
00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:09,150
like you see this girl's
pictures. I'm gonna take a look

601
00:36:09,150 --> 00:36:11,250
at this. Oh, yes. What am I
found here?

602
00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:14,160
Well, you can get a lot from
that. I've said it a million

603
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,290
times that if you're going to do
due diligence on people, you

604
00:36:16,290 --> 00:36:18,870
should you should go to their
Flickr account, right? Well,

605
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,650
that's kind of dated last year
in public. Anyway. So she had

606
00:36:22,650 --> 00:36:25,260
this one picture guy when I
looked over Twitter feed to see

607
00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:27,420
if I can figure out what was
going on. Because I had this

608
00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:30,930
sense. She was like, she was
hitting it hitting this this guy

609
00:36:30,930 --> 00:36:33,930
was into a hit job against his
character. And it was very

610
00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:36,750
vague. The medium article never
mentioned his name. No,

611
00:36:36,959 --> 00:36:40,949
I think it was the from
podcaster to CEO of his own

612
00:36:40,949 --> 00:36:44,039
Corporation, which of course is
the opposite of what I did,

613
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:48,689
which I think is interesting. I
went from Big Shot CEO to

614
00:36:48,689 --> 00:36:52,919
podcaster Yes, swimming upstream
is always that's right everybody

615
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,960
maybe should give Chloe a call.
Anyway, she so she's in this s&m

616
00:36:58,110 --> 00:37:03,150
outfit with the with the line
who dis? Huh? And so I'm

617
00:37:03,150 --> 00:37:04,410
thinking what is this? Well,

618
00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:07,500
that's also appropriating black
culture, which is wrong by

619
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:09,180
online. Prima facia,

620
00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:12,570
and, and I and I read that
piece, and it's just seems like

621
00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:16,860
it's like, it's almost as
reminds me of that Marv Elbert

622
00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:19,410
thing where he had this
relationship with some

623
00:37:19,410 --> 00:37:23,400
dominatrix. Oh, gosh, didn't get
fired over that. Yes, he got

624
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,010
fired. He finally got back into
the business. By the way, he was

625
00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:29,040
out for a decade at least he was
out for a while.

626
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,040
That was a good story. It was
just I'm sorry, just to because

627
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,910
I just kind of remembered that.
It was shocking at the time.

628
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:40,410
Marv Albert, like a kinky freak.
It was it was like, No, this

629
00:37:40,410 --> 00:37:41,640
can't this is not right.

630
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,550
And in some of these s&m
relationships, there's a moment

631
00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:48,240
where,

632
00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:51,120
okay, the experience speaks.

633
00:37:51,509 --> 00:37:54,809
No, I'm I'll tell you where,
where I get most of what I what

634
00:37:54,809 --> 00:37:59,069
I consider foundational was
there was a special that KQED

635
00:37:59,069 --> 00:38:06,749
did KQED did about 20 years ago,
on the scene with a person who

636
00:38:06,749 --> 00:38:13,709
was analyzing it a psychologist
saying that the the this in

637
00:38:13,709 --> 00:38:16,679
reality is in one of these
relationships, and people

638
00:38:16,709 --> 00:38:19,829
probably know somebody that
might or might not be in one is

639
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:22,289
that the submission? The
submissive is actually the

640
00:38:22,289 --> 00:38:28,049
dominant in all situations. Ah,
but you, you, you end up with

641
00:38:28,049 --> 00:38:33,869
this, this punishment scenario.
And we're I the way I would

642
00:38:33,869 --> 00:38:36,899
perceive this, having read her
article, and then looking at

643
00:38:36,899 --> 00:38:40,499
this character, and this some of
the nonsense that she puts in

644
00:38:40,499 --> 00:38:42,599
the article that's like, what
does that really make any sense?

645
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:42,749
He

646
00:38:42,750 --> 00:38:45,330
basically had the upper hand all
along. Is that what you're

647
00:38:45,330 --> 00:38:46,410
saying? I would

648
00:38:46,410 --> 00:38:48,870
say that either she was the
dominant yet but whatever the

649
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:53,220
case, was, this article was
punishment designed to get him

650
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,050
in trouble and fired. Yeah. And
would you see that it was like,

651
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:02,160
I get to almost the sense that
he was supposed to be the this

652
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,930
shows up in the Mr. Robots
storyline to with that crazy?

653
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,920
Well, it also shows up with
billions. This is very similar.

654
00:39:11,279 --> 00:39:16,109
Ah, well, the way I'm seeing it
is that this guy was given the

655
00:39:16,109 --> 00:39:21,299
position to being heard dominant
half and he couldn't really keep

656
00:39:21,299 --> 00:39:23,609
up. She was such a masochist.

657
00:39:24,210 --> 00:39:27,660
This is actually a case of, of
me too. gone wrong.

658
00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:31,260
Yeah, something like that. But
it was just very let's put it

659
00:39:31,260 --> 00:39:33,840
this way, if anyone was to read
their herb essay, which is you

660
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,990
have to kind of dig to find it.
You won't even link to it. It's

661
00:39:36,990 --> 00:39:41,220
very fishy. But then when you
start to take take a meta view

662
00:39:41,220 --> 00:39:47,460
of it. Hello, Roger Stone. Uh
huh. Because the whole Roger

663
00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:52,290
Stone impetus seems to me this
just keep pounding on NBC people

664
00:39:52,290 --> 00:39:53,970
you work for NBC or target.

665
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:58,050
Now any anyone coming into this
fresh or hearing this out of

666
00:39:58,050 --> 00:40:01,830
context of who you and I are?
We'll of course out us as being

667
00:40:01,830 --> 00:40:05,160
the most unbelievable
misogynist, ever blaming the

668
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,560
victim shaming the victim.

669
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:13,380
I'm just saying that. Yeah,
well, you're wrong to think

670
00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:17,670
that. In fact, we're, we're
analyzing the reality of a

671
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:20,310
situation right and this
particular one and getting this

672
00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:25,500
guy booted. Even though his
affiliate he wasn't a strong NBC

673
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:28,920
would the connection with NBC
was not, not like some of the

674
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,930
people that have been like Matt
Lauer.

675
00:40:31,319 --> 00:40:34,649
No, that's true. What I always
like is that and I think you

676
00:40:34,649 --> 00:40:36,809
tweeted another example of this
that when something like this

677
00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:40,589
happens companies often wipe
this person from the from

678
00:40:40,589 --> 00:40:44,849
everything. So you're no longer
co founder of the company. You

679
00:40:44,849 --> 00:40:48,269
just gone you still just like as
if you didn't exist, it's it's a

680
00:40:48,269 --> 00:40:52,439
futuristic version of a black
mirror. Kind of a well maybe

681
00:40:52,439 --> 00:40:54,689
it's the current version of a
black mirror episode where your

682
00:40:54,689 --> 00:40:55,229
was a

683
00:40:55,230 --> 00:40:58,260
Stalinist is a Stalinist thing
where you cut somebody out of

684
00:40:58,260 --> 00:40:59,550
the picture, you're wiped

685
00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:03,330
from the entire history of the
of the of the corporation. Yeah,

686
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:07,710
we're living in a lot of that.
It's just you know, what I So

687
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,730
Tina and I were walking on the
street the other day, and I'm

688
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,450
observing because of OTG and and
my phone doesn't do anything,

689
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,900
just unless there's a text
message which is few, usually to

690
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:22,710
you, saying, Hey, here's the
newsletter. And, and I'm just

691
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:26,310
looking at looking at the people
hunched over walking, walking

692
00:41:26,460 --> 00:41:29,580
with the eye on their phones,
looking at their screens, I see

693
00:41:29,580 --> 00:41:32,520
some unbelievable, a million of
these scooters Park these little

694
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:36,690
motorized scooters parked
everywhere. And, and I remember

695
00:41:37,170 --> 00:41:40,230
my favorite book, one of my
favorite books Snow Crash by

696
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:46,410
Neal Stephenson. And I owned
metaverse.com Back in 1909 and

697
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,910
early 90s. If you've not read
Snow Crash, it's a science

698
00:41:50,910 --> 00:41:55,080
fiction book about the future.
And this is an 80s book and boy,

699
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,460
how close it's come where the
reality of the world is everyone

700
00:41:59,460 --> 00:42:02,250
is in their home or their
office. And they put on a VR

701
00:42:02,250 --> 00:42:06,870
headset and they go into the
metaverse. And the metaverse is,

702
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:12,270
you know, I think the the
incorrect. thinking at the time

703
00:42:12,270 --> 00:42:15,120
was oh, Second Life. This is
this is what it is. This is the

704
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,360
metaverse This is what Neil
Stevenson meant, but it was much

705
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,120
more sophisticated in the book.
And in fact, there was a virus

706
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,100
called Snow Crash. And that's
what the book is called Snow

707
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:26,910
Crash. But he describes the
outside world outside the

708
00:42:26,910 --> 00:42:30,600
metaverse as the only thing on
the street are delivery people

709
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,900
on electric scooters and FedEx.
And that's it. No one else is on

710
00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:35,940
the street, because there's no
reason to be on the street.

711
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,850
Unless you get one of the
autonomous driving cars to take

712
00:42:38,850 --> 00:42:40,890
you from location one to
location two, which is of

713
00:42:40,890 --> 00:42:44,490
course, Uber, the bird bikes.
And you know, FedEx is what it

714
00:42:44,490 --> 00:42:48,990
is, it's FedEx. But now we also
have Amazon delivery. And this,

715
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:56,460
this scourge of these bikes, and
the scooters, particularly in

716
00:42:56,460 --> 00:43:03,090
Austin, is the arrogance and the
just unbelievable brazenness of

717
00:43:03,090 --> 00:43:07,560
Silicon Valley companies who are
flooding flooding markets, we

718
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:12,750
now have five different bike
rental companies, of which only

719
00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:15,750
one has racks, all the rest, you
just park the bike, we just

720
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:18,900
throw it down wherever you want.
Because Don't worry. Now we have

721
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:22,200
GPS on them. They pay people to
pick it up at night and put them

722
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,620
back in strategic locations.
These bird scooters have to be

723
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,320
picked up during the night
people charge them at their

724
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,350
homes. That's how they try to
get some economies of scale. But

725
00:43:31,350 --> 00:43:33,840
none of this is legal. None of
this has been clear. They just

726
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,630
dump it into a city just dump
it. And of course everyone gets

727
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:39,360
all addicted to it. It's the
Uber model, dump that shit on

728
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,570
the city's like if people get
addicted to it, get kicked out,

729
00:43:42,570 --> 00:43:47,130
have them screaming, please come
back to me. In the meantime,

730
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:53,430
this is this is really rude. It
is it's just rude. I mean, and

731
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:57,090
people don't they're riding on
sidewalks, that not enough of

732
00:43:57,090 --> 00:44:00,750
them are getting hit on the
road, which is what really needs

733
00:44:00,750 --> 00:44:03,390
to happen. We need some people
dying before we can get rid of

734
00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:07,920
this this plague there's just
this plague, which leads me into

735
00:44:08,279 --> 00:44:10,439
well, they're confiscating him
in San Francisco, they

736
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:15,300
should be these things. I mean,
and and there's so much money

737
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:18,840
going into this, these guys is
now valued at a billion dollars.

738
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:24,840
I don't get it in the model. The
model doesn't work, because

739
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,790
they're still paying between 10
and $15 per electric scooter to

740
00:44:29,790 --> 00:44:32,610
have someone pick it up and
recharge it depending on how

741
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:37,020
difficult it is to find it. If
you can see I did to get these

742
00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:39,990
scooters. And then at the end,
the very end of the night, they

743
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:42,300
have a truck that goes around
for all the scooters people

744
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:45,240
didn't find you know, it's like
it's almost like a Pokemon hunt

745
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:48,780
and kids making good money doing
this by the way, but it'll never

746
00:44:48,780 --> 00:44:51,390
last because it's not a
sustainable model. And they're

747
00:44:51,390 --> 00:44:54,720
gonna get kicked out because
it's dangerous. You know, and

748
00:44:54,780 --> 00:44:57,450
the motorized vehicle belongs on
the street and then it needs to

749
00:44:57,450 --> 00:45:00,450
go through a couple of, you
know, a couple of days. checks

750
00:45:00,450 --> 00:45:03,090
to make sure that it's okay to
be on the street. And it's not

751
00:45:03,090 --> 00:45:07,920
it's not safe. I had these
things in 1999 in Amsterdam at

752
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,990
night and you know, the press
was out there I was zapping

753
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:12,960
along the that was called the
zappy. I was blasting along the

754
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,620
canals. And within a week, there
were the cops know that we're

755
00:45:16,620 --> 00:45:20,670
confiscating this rule not gonna
happen. And they kept them off

756
00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:23,940
the streets for a decade, until
they finally finally someone

757
00:45:24,030 --> 00:45:26,910
went back and tried to get some
legislation. That same went for

758
00:45:26,910 --> 00:45:30,330
segways. Those were also
immediately banned. But this the

759
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,280
arrogance of the Silicon Valley
companies to do this is is this

760
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,950
irksome to me. And that kind of
brings us to another Silicon

761
00:45:37,950 --> 00:45:40,260
Valley story, which I saw you
have a clip of it'll let you

762
00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:43,230
start and I only have a bunch of
clips of it. I only have an

763
00:45:43,230 --> 00:45:48,120
opinion on Elizabeth Holmes. But
I would like to hear what you've

764
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:48,600
got.

765
00:45:49,110 --> 00:45:53,220
Well, I'm going to start off by
doing this backwards. Elizabeth

766
00:45:53,220 --> 00:45:57,570
Holmes was this people can the
reporter who wrote for The Wall

767
00:45:57,570 --> 00:46:02,070
Street Journal's considers her a
scammer. But she was defended

768
00:46:02,070 --> 00:46:04,950
and she got lots of money from
all kinds of Tim Draper was a

769
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:07,020
good example of this. By the
way. Let's

770
00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:11,190
just go back and say that she
has now been indicted on 10

771
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:14,970
counts of wire fraud. Going to
jail. She's going to jail.

772
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:19,320
Well, let's hope so. But let's
play the local story then

773
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,150
Elizabeth Holmes local report.

774
00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:25,620
She was once billed as the next
Steve Jobs Theranos as medical

775
00:46:25,620 --> 00:46:29,280
technology was supposed to be
the future of medicine. instead.

776
00:46:29,310 --> 00:46:32,190
Tonight Elizabeth Holmes is
facing 20 years in prison

777
00:46:32,190 --> 00:46:36,090
tonight. Hear from those who saw
the warning signs. Good evening.

778
00:46:36,090 --> 00:46:37,890
Thank you for joining us
tonight. I'm on the date.

779
00:46:38,310 --> 00:46:41,550
Ashley. Elizabeth Holmes walked
out of a South Bay court today

780
00:46:41,550 --> 00:46:44,820
charged with defrauding
investors, doctors and patients.

781
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,210
We have

782
00:46:45,210 --> 00:46:47,700
team coverage tonight. Let's
begin with the ABC Seven News

783
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:50,310
reporter Amanda del Castillo
Amanda.

784
00:46:51,810 --> 00:46:55,920
Dan amo, we know that Holmes was
once touted as Silicon Valley

785
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,520
sweetheart, but today Shri and a
former accompany President had

786
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,670
to face some serious charges
regarding wire fraud. I love it

787
00:47:02,670 --> 00:47:05,910
and to be exact. We were there
the moment that Holmes walked

788
00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:08,040
out of the federal courthouse.

789
00:47:14,730 --> 00:47:17,610
Before walking out of the
federal courthouse in silence,

790
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,300
Holmes and Ramesh Bhawani both
pleaded not guilty to two counts

791
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:25,170
of conspiracy to commit wire
fraud and nine counts of wire

792
00:47:25,170 --> 00:47:28,290
fraud. We pled not guilty
because He is not guilty outside

793
00:47:28,290 --> 00:47:30,930
of the courtroom, Jeff Cooper
Smith only representing and

794
00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:35,010
speaking on behalf of balwani.
Federal prosecutors say he and

795
00:47:35,010 --> 00:47:38,430
Holmes were behind a
multimillion dollar scheme to

796
00:47:38,430 --> 00:47:41,820
defraud investors, and another
to do doctors and patients.

797
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:45,390
Prosecutors accused the payer of
knowingly lying about the

798
00:47:45,390 --> 00:47:49,080
accuracy and reliability of some
of their products. Technology

799
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,750
that was said to be a cheaper
and more efficient way of doing

800
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:52,560
blood tests

801
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,890
put his heart and soul into this
he had his own family tested at

802
00:47:55,890 --> 00:47:56,760
the Theranos lab,

803
00:47:57,030 --> 00:48:01,140
a busy lab then Vice President
Joe Biden visited back in 2015.

804
00:48:01,470 --> 00:48:04,830
This video shows both homes and
Biden touring the new work

805
00:48:04,830 --> 00:48:08,430
facility. Today though the only
sign Theranos even exists in the

806
00:48:08,430 --> 00:48:12,120
building was this one posted on
its front door getting contact

807
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:17,370
information for Theranos. And
after calling the listed

808
00:48:17,370 --> 00:48:22,320
numbers, one man identified as a
Theranos. Employee, he says that

809
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,920
he wasn't shocked at today's
courtroom development. In fact,

810
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,120
he actually complimented Holmes
on her passion for her work. We

811
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,960
know that the two Holmes and
balwani are expected back in

812
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,760
court in August, If convicted,
the queue can each spend up to

813
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,260
20 years behind bars.

814
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:46,830
I'd just like to say about the
media, that this is an

815
00:48:46,830 --> 00:48:52,290
outstanding example of the tech
press. And it is really the so

816
00:48:52,290 --> 00:48:56,160
called tech press doing a
disservice because just as this

817
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,970
report stated, you know, Wired
Magazine, but also, you know,

818
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,510
all tech reporters for the New
York Times and for Forbes and

819
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:07,920
every blog everywhere, were
Jizan all over Elizabeth Holmes,

820
00:49:08,010 --> 00:49:12,750
and I said look like Steve Jobs
did wonder. The medical press

821
00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:15,750
we're on to it, that in fact,
the Wall Street Journal, the

822
00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:18,570
medical reporter, he was early
on, he was saying no, now this

823
00:49:18,570 --> 00:49:20,940
is there's something wrong with
this. This is bullcrap. And

824
00:49:20,970 --> 00:49:23,910
there was a lot of reporting on
it, but still, the actual

825
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:27,240
technology press in all its
forms and the M five M as well.

826
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:34,770
We're all great. We're always do
and now all boy we're so

827
00:49:34,770 --> 00:49:38,370
surprised because you and many
of these blogs and these tech

828
00:49:38,370 --> 00:49:42,960
press things, they're all funded
by VCs. That's who's paying for

829
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,380
it so they're just doing their
masters bidding. So you know the

830
00:49:46,380 --> 00:49:50,340
reporting is shit. And here we
are. A whole bunch of rich

831
00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:53,700
people got duped and now they're
going to send this girl to jail.

832
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:55,470
All right, that I'll have more
later.

833
00:49:56,129 --> 00:49:58,769
Well, let's play a couple of
things that think it got me

834
00:49:58,769 --> 00:50:00,509
about her is there her Voice

835
00:50:02,190 --> 00:50:05,460
you know she's from a very rich
fan or a formerly very rich

836
00:50:05,460 --> 00:50:06,030
family

837
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:10,169
well she's developed his phony
voice everybody comments on it?

838
00:50:10,499 --> 00:50:13,139
Because apparently she slipped
out of it when someone actually

839
00:50:13,229 --> 00:50:16,799
talked normally it's a fake it's
a fake baritone that she can

840
00:50:16,799 --> 00:50:19,859
barely miss sustain and I'll say
this doing because when I was

841
00:50:19,859 --> 00:50:23,189
doing the tech grouch and the
tech hippie at when I was a mean

842
00:50:23,189 --> 00:50:28,769
way, Rogers that was you and I'd
had to do these voices and it's

843
00:50:28,769 --> 00:50:32,879
hard to sustain the voice give
us a time if it's not if it's

844
00:50:32,879 --> 00:50:34,889
nothing you could do all the
time like the mice I have a

845
00:50:34,889 --> 00:50:37,649
bunch of voices I do have as you
heard him on his show, and but I

846
00:50:37,649 --> 00:50:40,709
can usually do in short bursts
but to just keep it going like

847
00:50:40,709 --> 00:50:43,349
she has to do makes it very
difficult. But when you hear it

848
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:47,039
first time out of the blue now
Kramer kind of creamed all over

849
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:50,219
this because he loved her and
then he of course he had to back

850
00:50:50,219 --> 00:50:54,899
off a little bit once a new
Yeah, but here's an early here's

851
00:50:54,899 --> 00:50:57,299
your way. Here's what it sound
here's a runner voice out of the

852
00:50:57,299 --> 00:51:00,779
blue sounds like this is this is
Kramer and E ah play this clip.

853
00:51:00,809 --> 00:51:01,859
This is Jim Cramer

854
00:51:01,860 --> 00:51:02,880
from CNBC.

855
00:51:02,910 --> 00:51:05,460
Lately, one of the most exciting
privately held companies in

856
00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:08,010
Silicon Valley has come under
fire. I'm talking about

857
00:51:08,010 --> 00:51:11,070
Theranos. That's the diagnostics
company with the ultra fast

858
00:51:11,070 --> 00:51:14,820
fingerprint, blood tech testing
technology. It's aiming to upend

859
00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:17,100
the entire traditional
healthcare establishment by

860
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:19,710
making it easier, less
expensive, and much less

861
00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:22,890
uncomfortable for you to get
tested for a whole range of

862
00:51:22,890 --> 00:51:25,200
conditions. For the last few
years, Theranos has been viewed

863
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,200
as a revolutionary company. CEOs
are not powerless. Next, Steve

864
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,780
Jobs company has been valued as
much as $9 billion dollars in

865
00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:33,150
his most recent round of
fundraising, but thoroughness

866
00:51:33,150 --> 00:51:35,280
also has its critics. And just
this morning, the Wall Street

867
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,200
Journal, we had a pretty
scathing article about the

868
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,450
company, what do you get the
company's proprietary testing

869
00:51:39,450 --> 00:51:43,350
devices may be inaccurate, and
basically accusing Theranos of

870
00:51:43,350 --> 00:51:46,200
deceptive practices. The journal
cites a former employee who

871
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,650
claimed that of the 2040 tests
offered by thoroughness only 15

872
00:51:49,650 --> 00:51:52,260
are actually performed on the
company's proprietary Edison

873
00:51:52,260 --> 00:51:54,960
diagnostic machine, vast
majority of the rest being done

874
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,600
on traditional lab equipment.
The article was pretty brutal,

875
00:51:57,630 --> 00:51:59,730
but here on Mad Money, we know
something we know that there are

876
00:51:59,730 --> 00:52:02,820
two sides to every single story,
which is why I think it's

877
00:52:02,820 --> 00:52:05,250
important that we speak to
Elizabeth Holmes, the founder

878
00:52:05,250 --> 00:52:08,370
and CEO of thoroughness, who's
coming to us this afternoon from

879
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,700
Boston, attending a meeting of
the Board of fellows at Harvard

880
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:14,670
Medical School to give her a
chance to answer the charges

881
00:52:14,670 --> 00:52:16,800
raised in the article. Miss
Holmes, welcome back to Mad

882
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,130
Money.

883
00:52:17,370 --> 00:52:18,810
It's great to be here. Thank
you,

884
00:52:19,230 --> 00:52:21,840
Elizabeth. I have to tell you in
all my years, I can't recall a

885
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,330
private company. You

886
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:27,540
know what that sounds it sounds
like yeah, I can do it home

887
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:27,930
again. But

888
00:52:27,930 --> 00:52:31,170
now you've heard Kermit the
Frog.

889
00:52:31,590 --> 00:52:35,430
It sounds like she's her mouth
is full of vapor liquid vapor.

890
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:39,720
But this now that you heard what
he said, What Thank you very

891
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:42,090
much. That's not the clip I want
you to start with but I'm gonna

892
00:52:42,090 --> 00:52:44,850
you can go to this to this the
nine second clip. I'm looking

893
00:52:44,850 --> 00:52:50,100
for Kramer and Eh. Oh, I'm so
sorry. Yes. Okay. It was a clip

894
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,110
I wanted to play anyway. All
right, Tim.

895
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:58,350
This is defending Kramer at I
gotcha. Gotcha. It's a little

896
00:52:58,350 --> 00:52:59,100
labeled funk,

897
00:52:59,130 --> 00:53:01,230
where she's attending a meeting
of the Board of fellows at

898
00:53:01,230 --> 00:53:04,080
Harvard Medical School to give
her a chance to answer the

899
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,690
charges raised in the article.
This one was welcome back to Mad

900
00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:07,050
Money.

901
00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:08,730
It's great to be here. Thank
you.

902
00:53:09,419 --> 00:53:12,329
Yeah, that's not it either.
Would you play was the long

903
00:53:12,329 --> 00:53:14,879
version of that the way it was?
She says

904
00:53:14,910 --> 00:53:17,610
preview early. Is that the one
you want? And that's not nine

905
00:53:17,610 --> 00:53:18,270
seconds?

906
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,660
No that you've just played the
nine second one. Okay. Try

907
00:53:21,660 --> 00:53:26,010
preview early. No, they got that
but dot the archive? To 124.

908
00:53:27,090 --> 00:53:28,620
I'm sorry. What are you asking
me to do?

909
00:53:29,130 --> 00:53:33,450
I've got Kramer and Holmes
preview early archive and Kramer

910
00:53:33,450 --> 00:53:36,450
which is five minutes I don't
know it was shouldn't be on your

911
00:53:36,450 --> 00:53:41,970
list of Famer and I think that's
what you gave me Hold on. No,

912
00:53:41,970 --> 00:53:46,560
you you I may have taken the
archive off the ship. Yes. But

913
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:52,590
try Kramer and homeless preview
early dot mp3. Okay, is where he

914
00:53:52,590 --> 00:53:55,320
funds. This is the this is
before the Wall Street Journal

915
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,970
article. This is what we could
expect.

916
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,010
Let's take a closer look with
Elizabeth Holmes. She's the

917
00:53:59,010 --> 00:54:01,650
founder and CEO of Theranos, who
also happens to be the youngest

918
00:54:01,650 --> 00:54:04,470
self made female billionaire in
America. As always, welcome to

919
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:04,950
Mad Money.

920
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,860
Thank you. It's great to be
here. Thank you, Elizabeth.

921
00:54:09,210 --> 00:54:09,930
Exact same.

922
00:54:10,290 --> 00:54:12,930
If you if you hadn't told me I
would have thought you spun it

923
00:54:12,930 --> 00:54:16,500
down. Thank you. It's good to be
I would have thought you had

924
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:17,310
spider horse.

925
00:54:18,090 --> 00:54:20,550
Well, here I got one more of
these clips. And I was I don't

926
00:54:20,550 --> 00:54:23,670
want to belabor this. But here
she is at Tech med. This is

927
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:28,290
Holmes at or Ted med. She's
giving us her TED speech which

928
00:54:28,290 --> 00:54:32,670
is filled with Silicon Valley
bull crap. Oh, we want to

929
00:54:32,670 --> 00:54:36,210
empower the people who want to
do this is very short clip. I

930
00:54:36,210 --> 00:54:39,720
don't didn't take the whole
speech. But the whole 18 minutes

931
00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:43,050
is all this garbage is Silicon
Valley garbage. But watch the

932
00:54:43,050 --> 00:54:46,200
way she speaks it to maintain
that voice to maintain that

933
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,640
voice. She has to kind of
swallow. She could only maybe do

934
00:54:50,670 --> 00:54:55,770
two words. And then she kind of
gets herself together and then

935
00:54:55,770 --> 00:54:59,160
hits us was a pregnant deadlift
all the pauses in because she

936
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,790
can say more. In three words,
sometimes you can maybe blurt

937
00:55:02,790 --> 00:55:06,420
out four. And this is what if
this doesn't tell you

938
00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:08,490
something's wrong? I don't know
what does,

939
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:15,810
it is a great honor to be here.
I feel very humbled speaking in

940
00:55:15,810 --> 00:55:21,540
front of all of you. And there's
so much I have to learn from the

941
00:55:21,540 --> 00:55:28,050
people in this room. So what I
can talk about is, is what I

942
00:55:28,050 --> 00:55:33,690
know and what I believe, which
is that nice performance, the

943
00:55:33,690 --> 00:55:41,910
incredible things about this
country is that we can and do

944
00:55:41,970 --> 00:55:51,240
solve policy challenges through
creativity, and innovation. And

945
00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:57,480
I've always believed that when
people find what they're truly

946
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:03,660
passionate about, and they make
a decision to do that, and stick

947
00:56:03,660 --> 00:56:09,870
with that, no matter what, they
can build great things.

948
00:56:10,650 --> 00:56:19,950
Wow. Sure. She should be in jail
for that. Just that alone. Now.

949
00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:25,500
It's odd because her great icon
hero Steve Jobs, whose is she

950
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:30,990
named one of her products iPod
after you know the iPod.

951
00:56:30,990 --> 00:56:32,160
No, she was she had a

952
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,720
shit on and bright job. Much
higher voice.

953
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,690
Yeah. The guy that wrote the
book on her which just came out.

954
00:56:44,190 --> 00:56:47,730
He says that she worshipped jobs
so much that she adopted his

955
00:56:47,730 --> 00:56:51,720
scheduling. She adopted this
clothing as a tire. Everything

956
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:57,960
she could about this, it was
just copied to into a real sick

957
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,780
extent. But what are you gonna
do?

958
00:57:01,470 --> 00:57:02,460
Alright, what else you got?

959
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:07,890
What is amusing? I have to say,
I do have the Holmes thank you

960
00:57:07,890 --> 00:57:10,110
on an ISO if you want to play
that just quickly.

961
00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:13,980
Thank you. It's great to be
here. All right.

962
00:57:14,220 --> 00:57:17,340
Let me just wait here. Let's
play. I see. I don't know that

963
00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:19,320
first one you play but I think
that was

964
00:57:19,410 --> 00:57:22,740
great. So it's still racked. It
was over eight minutes. And it

965
00:57:22,740 --> 00:57:26,670
was Kramer and homes after Wall
Street Journal. That's the

966
00:57:26,670 --> 00:57:29,850
night. That was what you meant
title archive, probably.

967
00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:33,060
And that's and that's the one
that you played first. Yeah.

968
00:57:34,140 --> 00:57:35,850
Okay, and then you play the
other one because there's one

969
00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:39,510
more thing about the local
report too. Alright, let's

970
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:40,920
finish with local report two

971
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:44,880
homes dropped out of Stanford
and started Theranos in 2003. It

972
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,240
became the hot startup in 2014
when Holmes was featured in

973
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,020
several national publications.
One even called her the next

974
00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:53,070
Steve Jobs

975
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:56,760
as investors flocked to Theranos
its value soared to $9 billion.

976
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,510
That year, Holmes parlayed the
success and was one of the main

977
00:58:00,510 --> 00:58:03,810
speaker was at a TED talk in San
Francisco in 2014

978
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:11,010
rate to protect the health and
well being of every person.

979
00:58:12,780 --> 00:58:13,800
those we love.

980
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,420
By the way, this is on her part
totally calculated to sound like

981
00:58:18,420 --> 00:58:23,070
a complicated, introverted
leader. This didn't completely

982
00:58:23,070 --> 00:58:24,330
fabricated this

983
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,510
is a basic human right.

984
00:58:28,740 --> 00:58:32,670
Things started to unravel though
in October of 2015, when a Wall

985
00:58:32,670 --> 00:58:36,150
Street Journal investigation
questioned the accuracy of those

986
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:36,990
testing devices

987
00:58:37,020 --> 00:58:40,500
may early 2016 Theranos was
laying off employees homes was

988
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:44,070
banned from the labs and the
company had its license revoked.

989
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:47,340
The Wall Street Journal story
was the work of one reporter who

990
00:58:47,340 --> 00:58:49,590
had spent three years looking
into the company.

991
00:58:49,620 --> 00:58:52,380
We spoke to him today about his
investigation. ABC SEVEN NEWS

992
00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:55,350
REPORTER Cornell Barnard joins
us now with some of the insights

993
00:58:55,350 --> 00:58:57,450
into what was really going on at
Theranos

994
00:58:57,509 --> 00:59:00,929
and Dan, it is quite a story of
reporter John Kerry Rue says

995
00:59:00,929 --> 00:59:03,749
many at Theranos tried to stop
the story from going public. He

996
00:59:03,749 --> 00:59:06,749
says the scandal put patients
lives in danger.

997
00:59:07,319 --> 00:59:11,759
She refused to stop over
promising to investors. Surprise

998
00:59:11,759 --> 00:59:14,579
winning Wall Street Journal
reporter John Kerry Rue isn't

999
00:59:14,579 --> 00:59:18,059
surprised Theranos founder
Elizabeth Holmes now facing

1000
00:59:18,059 --> 00:59:21,599
federal fraud charges. All right
now

1001
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:25,590
I got it. Before we finish I do
have the one thing that is the

1002
00:59:25,590 --> 00:59:29,880
funniest clip. Okay, this one
guy who's refused he still

1003
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:35,070
stands by her side. Tim Draper's
course, our buddy Tim Draper

1004
00:59:35,070 --> 00:59:36,090
over here, but we

1005
00:59:36,089 --> 00:59:41,129
know it was kind of a funny
jolly wacky I've liked him he's

1006
00:59:41,339 --> 00:59:46,979
like he's like, he's like
Anthony Robbins with some

1007
00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:50,280
goofball, but he's also a
goofball. He does when he gives

1008
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,710
a speech. He gives little
speeches and he does a rap tune.

1009
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:53,340
Yeah,

1010
00:59:53,370 --> 00:59:55,980
he's let's get social kind of
guy. Yeah.

1011
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:02,070
So here he is on CNBC, everybody
His jaw has dropped by as he

1012
01:00:02,070 --> 01:00:05,340
starts talking, by the way, when
he starts going into this, this

1013
01:00:05,340 --> 01:00:10,230
is a this is a it's a good two
minutes, but it's Tim defending

1014
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:14,010
her and defending the Silicon
Valley ethos, claiming the

1015
01:00:14,010 --> 01:00:17,070
government's out to get the
entrepreneurs and although he's

1016
01:00:17,070 --> 01:00:20,070
a Democrat, and you know, it's a
lot of this doesn't make a lot

1017
01:00:20,070 --> 01:00:22,140
of sense what he's saying, but
he's saying it anyway. Here we

1018
01:00:22,140 --> 01:00:22,950
go. All right,

1019
01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:25,500
Tim, the last time that we spoke
with you a couple of years ago,

1020
01:00:25,890 --> 01:00:29,580
you roundly defended Elizabeth
Holmes, the founder of Theranos.

1021
01:00:29,970 --> 01:00:32,760
The CFTC has now accused that
company of massive fraud, you

1022
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,800
said people were just going
after her because she was a

1023
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,710
woman. She was the victim of a
witch hunt. You suggested the

1024
01:00:37,710 --> 01:00:39,900
Wall Street Journal guy who
uncovered all this was

1025
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:43,290
incompetent. Are you willing to
admit that you're wrong about

1026
01:00:43,290 --> 01:00:43,770
this one?

1027
01:00:44,250 --> 01:00:49,650
Absolutely not. I feel that we
have taken down another great

1028
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,790
icon. This woman was I kind of
waved at me when she was 19

1029
01:00:53,790 --> 01:00:57,570
years old. And she said I'm
going to transform healthcare as

1030
01:00:57,570 --> 01:01:02,070
we know it. And she got bullied
into submission. And I think

1031
01:01:02,070 --> 01:01:06,420
this has been a real this is
what not what America has made.

1032
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:12,420
America is made of people who do
ordinary things. Are you talking

1033
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:18,660
million dollars, went into
Theranos? Investments?

1034
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:22,170
Look what she did, she created
an amazing,

1035
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,560
it's worthless, amazing
opportunity.

1036
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:29,670
Now, but you can't have
invented, why is it worthless?

1037
01:01:29,730 --> 01:01:33,960
It's worthless, because this,
this writer was like a badger

1038
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:40,050
going after like a hyena going
after. And, and then it became a

1039
01:01:40,050 --> 01:01:45,360
bigger and bigger thing. I mean,
this was, it was a great vision,

1040
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,320
and it was a great

1041
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:49,260
fraud to the SEC,

1042
01:01:49,710 --> 01:01:53,730
I think you're just I think you
missed the entire point. I think

1043
01:01:53,730 --> 01:01:57,600
you missed the entire point.
This was if all she had to do

1044
01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:02,490
was you know, say this was a
beta or whatever. And all of us

1045
01:02:02,490 --> 01:02:05,880
would be using it, we'd be
loving it. But it was, but she

1046
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,520
didn't I mean, that's her she's
going up against some very

1047
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:14,460
powerful people in the drug
companies, the AMA, the, the

1048
01:02:14,550 --> 01:02:18,630
FDA, all these people, she's
transforming healthcare,

1049
01:02:18,810 --> 01:02:21,540
somebody goes in and tries to
transform healthcare, they're

1050
01:02:21,540 --> 01:02:24,180
gonna get attacked in a lot of
different directions. And she

1051
01:02:24,180 --> 01:02:29,070
was, and this was one of the
cases where the entrepreneur was

1052
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:30,660
was defeated.

1053
01:02:31,140 --> 01:02:35,370
Interesting. Now, here's how I
that that is an interesting

1054
01:02:35,370 --> 01:02:42,570
statement by Draper. And I think
that the way most investors and

1055
01:02:42,570 --> 01:02:46,380
that's what I want to focus on
what most investors saw is a

1056
01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:50,430
great idea. Because, you know,
it's, it's creating a better

1057
01:02:50,430 --> 01:02:53,400
mousetrap. Because, you know,
giving blood is certainly for

1058
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,450
people like me, I get woozy and
I don't want to do hold my hand,

1059
01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:02,250
Press my head down. I'm not I
don't feel good. It'd be

1060
01:03:02,250 --> 01:03:06,690
fantastic. All you need to do in
typical Silicon Valley, Draper

1061
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,660
thing is just throw enough money
at it to miniaturize the shit,

1062
01:03:09,660 --> 01:03:11,670
and then it'll work and you've
already got the brand you've

1063
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:15,060
got. And I think that they were
rushing to make that happen. And

1064
01:03:15,060 --> 01:03:18,660
this is where I look at this a
little differently. And if

1065
01:03:18,690 --> 01:03:21,510
remember, I started with these
assholes, you know, filling up

1066
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:25,560
our streets with these bullcrap
bikes and scooters. First of

1067
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,400
all, homes are self comes from a
very what used to be one of the

1068
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,610
big rich families in America.
And this is one of the families

1069
01:03:32,610 --> 01:03:35,940
that kind of squandered that
wealth. And that started really

1070
01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:39,270
with her, her great grandfather
when the wells start to go away.

1071
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,910
And they do if you look at her
history, they just did dumb

1072
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:45,510
things and you know, lost their
money. But there was always this

1073
01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:48,600
hope this family hope that, you
know, eventually we'll we'll

1074
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,680
bring it back. And then we had
Elizabeth, who dropped out of

1075
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,670
Stanford at 19. Was that
freshman, freshman freshman

1076
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:00,480
freshman, her first investor, do
you know who her first investor

1077
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:05,280
was? I thought it was Draper,
Rupert Murdoch provided the seed

1078
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:10,200
funding he was the Draper was
the first VC. Rupert Murdoch,

1079
01:04:10,590 --> 01:04:14,400
who loves him some young Chicky
I'm not saying that's what

1080
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:15,720
happened, but I can see

1081
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:20,430
the accordion. That's what
Carrie Ruth says. Terry Rue says

1082
01:04:20,430 --> 01:04:23,760
that eat she could she could
work the old men.

1083
01:04:25,050 --> 01:04:28,620
Yes, so she could work the she
worked Rupert. Then she got her

1084
01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:32,280
seed funding. And with Rupert's
name and the seed funding and a

1085
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,920
good idea for a better
mousetrap. She went to Draper

1086
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,800
Draper sees this goes down.
Okay, the more money we throw at

1087
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,670
it, we'll get there eventually.
Then the big VC start piling on.

1088
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:45,450
Then they start compiling the
board, which included Henry

1089
01:04:45,450 --> 01:04:50,670
Kissinger, Colin Powell, even
our very own Secretary of

1090
01:04:50,670 --> 01:04:52,320
Defense Mad Dog Mattis.

1091
01:04:52,350 --> 01:04:54,000
It was Mattis

1092
01:04:54,030 --> 01:04:59,100
on the board. But I all old men
by the way, yes, I have some

1093
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:02,640
standing in this area, because I
went to some of the same

1094
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,370
investors, some of them invested
in my company now over the

1095
01:05:05,370 --> 01:05:09,540
course of 1010 years, 10 years,
where we essentially promised

1096
01:05:09,540 --> 01:05:12,390
the same thing. We got
sidetracked knows all kinds of

1097
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:15,510
issues, we made mistakes. And it
turns out, you can't monetize

1098
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:19,890
the network. But in essence, you
know, there was 50 $60 million

1099
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,390
that went over a 10 year period,
which and we did pretty well by,

1100
01:05:24,420 --> 01:05:27,540
you know, providing a lot of
employment for people and and

1101
01:05:27,990 --> 01:05:32,280
basically employing people for
quite a while, although losing

1102
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,070
money or barely breaking even
and you know, you have to keep

1103
01:05:35,070 --> 01:05:37,830
going back to the well. And then
a certain point, y'all say, Hey,

1104
01:05:37,830 --> 01:05:40,980
this is just not working. Does
it didn't go that way, in this

1105
01:05:40,980 --> 01:05:44,520
case, because all of these guys,
no, you can throw money at the

1106
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,830
problem. And then you get the
board and you get enough

1107
01:05:46,830 --> 01:05:50,460
momentum, and they see how it
works. And they've done this in

1108
01:05:50,490 --> 01:05:53,580
I think many previous case,
certainly in Silicon Valley, you

1109
01:05:53,580 --> 01:05:55,890
know, if you have the right
idea, you have enough money,

1110
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,760
then you can probably get ahead
of the competition. But these

1111
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,720
venture capital investors, what
you want you want to an

1112
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,540
entertainment company in Los
Angeles or New York? No, it has

1113
01:06:06,540 --> 01:06:10,050
to be here in San Francisco so
we can keep our eye on it and

1114
01:06:10,050 --> 01:06:14,220
come to the office. What do you
think the 19 year old got? Oh,

1115
01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:16,350
by the time she got her
investment, she was in her early

1116
01:06:16,350 --> 01:06:19,560
20s. Now, this is completely
overseen, you've got to go to

1117
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,110
Sand Hill Road every single
week, you got to do your

1118
01:06:22,110 --> 01:06:25,350
meeting, got to explain show
your number shows what happened.

1119
01:06:25,350 --> 01:06:31,140
And these people knew these
these investors. They can't

1120
01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:35,040
stand that the Wall Street
Journal, this guy who I think is

1121
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:36,660
a real journalist,

1122
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:39,960
he stayed on this time Pulitzer
Prize winner, he sat

1123
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,780
on this story and he kept
hammering at it for three years.

1124
01:06:42,990 --> 01:06:47,280
And they tried to cover it up.
They the investors, not her, the

1125
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,340
investors were the venture
capitalists were covering up for

1126
01:06:50,340 --> 01:06:53,400
their limited partners and their
venture funds. Everything's

1127
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,420
great. All the press is great.
Forbes magazine, article after

1128
01:06:57,450 --> 01:07:01,680
article after article, he says,
reach into Silicon Valley

1129
01:07:01,710 --> 01:07:07,650
assholes completely are going to
send this girl to jail, who has

1130
01:07:07,650 --> 01:07:12,210
a personality disorder that she
needs to be in therapy from her

1131
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,590
family background and how she
was abused by these old men to

1132
01:07:16,590 --> 01:07:19,680
be Steve Jobs. Hey, baby, don't
worry, we'll take care of it.

1133
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,650
We'll get you there. And they
turned around and they screwed

1134
01:07:22,650 --> 01:07:26,490
her. They didn't they're sending
her to jail and they are trying

1135
01:07:26,490 --> 01:07:33,480
to get away from their culpable
liability for losing money from

1136
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,870
their limited partner investors.
That's what this is about. She's

1137
01:07:36,870 --> 01:07:40,440
being thrown to the wolves.
Yeah, I look I had complete

1138
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,930
disdain for her from day one,
like what are you? What are you

1139
01:07:42,930 --> 01:07:47,400
doing? But now I feel bad for
her. Because these guys won't

1140
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,920
take responsibility. That's
what's going on here.

1141
01:07:53,370 --> 01:07:57,600
Well, I like the analysis is a
real it's a kind of a slam.

1142
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:02,130
Kinda. I think a lot of the guys
I'm gonna take a little

1143
01:08:02,460 --> 01:08:06,720
exception to some of it because
the board I believe was stupid.

1144
01:08:07,110 --> 01:08:09,810
And I don't know if they knew
anything. I mean those board

1145
01:08:09,810 --> 01:08:14,700
meetings board meetings at I
have met the board meetings I

1146
01:08:14,700 --> 01:08:17,700
know what they're like and I
know how to manage now don't say

1147
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:23,100
that don't say that. Don't say
this. Don't let her in here know

1148
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:27,150
that all the tricks they use the
board minute there's no you look

1149
01:08:27,150 --> 01:08:30,960
at the madness. There's nothing
we had a meeting today the board

1150
01:08:30,990 --> 01:08:35,820
is simple. You just just lie to
the board. But that but the VC

1151
01:08:35,820 --> 01:08:39,120
they knew what was going on.
Those that meeting is not the

1152
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,270
board meeting the board meeting
is a circle jerk. Hey everybody

1153
01:08:42,270 --> 01:08:43,200
we're gonna be really must

1154
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,200
have had some idea what was
going on because a lot of the

1155
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,580
major league investors wouldn't
put a dent nickel into this

1156
01:08:50,580 --> 01:08:55,350
thing. They saw it was a scam. I
include John Doerr. If you can't

1157
01:08:55,350 --> 01:08:59,010
deliver, these guys are pointed
out and because of the good VCs

1158
01:08:59,010 --> 01:09:01,770
asked her what it was that she
was doing that was different.

1159
01:09:01,860 --> 01:09:03,120
And she wouldn't tell them

1160
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,850
by the way, I'm not going to
give John Doerr a pass even

1161
01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:08,850
though he was not in this one.
This guy is he's the king of

1162
01:09:08,850 --> 01:09:10,020
doing this kind of shit.

1163
01:09:11,010 --> 01:09:14,790
Sorry. Well, he apparently has
okay, you are you? I'm not gonna

1164
01:09:14,790 --> 01:09:17,940
argue against that. But
apparently he has his limits.

1165
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:24,210
crazily he does. He does have it
yet. It's amazing. The guy has

1166
01:09:24,210 --> 01:09:24,930
his limits.

1167
01:09:25,980 --> 01:09:27,660
This was the limit. Yeah,

1168
01:09:27,690 --> 01:09:30,900
but I would love to see because
you know, these these VC

1169
01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:36,150
companies. It's not fun to go
through that process. Certainly

1170
01:09:36,150 --> 01:09:39,750
not when you're, I mean, I had
Ron Bloom, and he's a dick when

1171
01:09:39,750 --> 01:09:42,480
it comes to this. And he really
fought very hard and he kept a

1172
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:45,870
lot of the company for us for a
long time. But in general,

1173
01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:48,750
you'll wake up one day your
company's public and you got

1174
01:09:48,750 --> 01:09:52,950
like 15 You got like 1.5 million
bucks. Oh, that was great. My

1175
01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:53,430
company

1176
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:58,739
after 10 years. Yeah. Now. The
thing Draper said is

1177
01:09:58,739 --> 01:10:03,059
interesting. Carrie Hughes says
the whole thing came apart

1178
01:10:03,059 --> 01:10:09,389
because it was Silicon Valley in
the wrong business. And Draper

1179
01:10:09,389 --> 01:10:12,929
said, Well, if she'd called it a
beta, they'd still be in

1180
01:10:12,929 --> 01:10:14,909
business. And he's still
collecting money. And

1181
01:10:15,570 --> 01:10:18,180
that's probably true. But there
was pressure, there was

1182
01:10:18,180 --> 01:10:21,270
treacherous. There was pressure
in the board to show some,

1183
01:10:21,660 --> 01:10:25,020
because we had negative
articles. The VC knew what was

1184
01:10:25,020 --> 01:10:27,990
going on. And like shit, we got
to show that this is not true.

1185
01:10:27,990 --> 01:10:30,810
Hey, where's our PR? Where's our
press? And then they concocted a

1186
01:10:30,810 --> 01:10:33,660
scheme? And you're gonna tell me
the VC wasn't in on that those

1187
01:10:33,660 --> 01:10:36,390
guys? They are they should be in
jail.

1188
01:10:37,980 --> 01:10:41,910
Well, that's probably true in
general. But he went on and on

1189
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:45,090
and that he did kind of hint
about do which is the belief in

1190
01:10:45,090 --> 01:10:48,150
Silicon Valley. They all believe
this, by the way, and you know,

1191
01:10:48,150 --> 01:10:53,010
it is that if you have an idea
that makes some sort of sense,

1192
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:56,160
yeah. But it doesn't work at
all.

1193
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:59,610
You're golden, you're broke. And
you

1194
01:10:59,670 --> 01:11:03,660
you can make it work eventually.
Because the idea is sound, the

1195
01:11:03,660 --> 01:11:06,060
vision is right. That's what he
said about her. She had a

1196
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:09,750
vision, the vision was right,
all we need to do is throw more

1197
01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:13,500
and more money at it. And
they'll come around. And what

1198
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:13,830
Draper

1199
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:18,420
does in an offhanded way is
condemned this two Pulitzer

1200
01:11:18,420 --> 01:11:21,450
winning prize, Pulitzer Prize
winning journalist to time

1201
01:11:21,450 --> 01:11:24,960
winner by saying he's complicit
with with the pharmaceutical

1202
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,380
industry to write hit pieces on
that's kind of what he's saying.

1203
01:11:30,300 --> 01:11:35,310
Yeah, there's no evidence that
that guy is kind of a guy. He

1204
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:39,300
just had a good story wanted to
run with it. And the thing that

1205
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:42,810
I would ask the writer and I may
get the opportunity to do this

1206
01:11:43,530 --> 01:11:50,730
is is why didn't the big boys
lab Corp? And some of these

1207
01:11:50,730 --> 01:11:53,670
monster testing facilities that
have they make, you know,

1208
01:11:53,670 --> 01:11:59,220
billions? Testing blood? Why
weren't they going after her?

1209
01:11:59,340 --> 01:12:01,920
Directly? They weren't. I didn't
see any evidence either. Were

1210
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,170
some skeptical articles was a
few people say, Well, I don't

1211
01:12:04,170 --> 01:12:07,350
think it can be done. But let's
wait and see. Because they knew

1212
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:10,680
the way the business works. And
he's full of crap Draper about

1213
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,830
oh, they're out to get her. Now.
They were gonna wait and see if

1214
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:15,030
the thing worked out. They would
have just

1215
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:18,570
bought her Yeah. bought her or
just replicated it simple.

1216
01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:20,610
Exactly. Exactly.

1217
01:12:21,210 --> 01:12:23,700
So, oh, boy. It fell apart.

1218
01:12:24,629 --> 01:12:28,829
She's going to jail. sad for
her. But she'll find many

1219
01:12:28,829 --> 01:12:34,289
friends, I'm sure. And she'll
look great in Orange County. So

1220
01:12:35,639 --> 01:12:38,159
with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage and say in the

1221
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:42,959
morning to you John C stands for
Kramer's archivist Devorah

1222
01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:47,250
Belinda morning to you Mr. Adam
curry and in the morning to all

1223
01:12:47,250 --> 01:12:50,460
boots on the ground feeding
their subs in the water. And all

1224
01:12:50,460 --> 01:12:51,600
the days and nights out in the

1225
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,230
morning to the troll room. Hey,
trolls. Good to have you here

1226
01:12:55,740 --> 01:12:58,710
that has no agenda. stream.com
when we do the show live on

1227
01:12:58,710 --> 01:13:01,410
Thursdays and Sundays, you can
follow along play along now.

1228
01:13:01,410 --> 01:13:04,530
Also in the show notes, a
synchronized video with the

1229
01:13:04,530 --> 01:13:09,240
chat. So it's a YouTube video,
you can listen to the show and

1230
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,170
see the chats roll by in real
time as synchronized on the show

1231
01:13:13,170 --> 01:13:16,440
days. So even if you can't make
it to the live chat to the troll

1232
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:22,380
room, you can do some practice
trolling. Yes, you can practice

1233
01:13:22,380 --> 01:13:28,020
troll. I'd also for all I'd also
like to thank you. Ah, let me

1234
01:13:28,020 --> 01:13:31,830
see. Was it Mike Riley? No, that
doesn't make sense.

1235
01:13:32,460 --> 01:13:34,740
Wasn't it crazy? Crazy name?

1236
01:13:34,770 --> 01:13:37,680
No, I gotta have it here. I'm
sorry. I must have put it wrong.

1237
01:13:37,710 --> 01:13:42,390
irritable. preop transracial.
Yes, is what I said yes,

1238
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:45,570
irritable, preop trans racial
who did the artwork for episode

1239
01:13:45,570 --> 01:13:52,320
104 to 1042 the title of that to
dictators. And this was the

1240
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:57,600
Obama filter. You know, the
Obama obey filter from his

1241
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:02,130
campaign poster only now it had
Kim Jong Hoon on the left of

1242
01:14:02,130 --> 01:14:06,180
Donald J. Trump on the right.
And I'd said yum yum under Kim

1243
01:14:06,180 --> 01:14:09,960
and chump under Trump. It just
kind of hit the buttons.

1244
01:14:10,620 --> 01:14:12,810
Yeah, it was funny. It got a
chuckle.

1245
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,790
Got it definitely got some
people though. were confused by

1246
01:14:17,790 --> 01:14:19,980
the artwork and they were
tweeting. Because you know,

1247
01:14:19,980 --> 01:14:23,880
whenever I tweet the show,
people tweet the date and the

1248
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,930
artwork is in the tweet. It's
like oh, no, you're not calling

1249
01:14:27,930 --> 01:14:29,850
him a dictator now to are you?

1250
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:36,030
My goodness. Listen to the show
people. Yeah, once in a while.

1251
01:14:36,210 --> 01:14:38,280
It was a reference to a blooper.

1252
01:14:38,340 --> 01:14:44,400
Yep. The two dictators having
their specialties is bloopers as

1253
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,670
Looper say it's a winning
formula people bloopers were

1254
01:14:47,670 --> 01:14:50,580
doing well on television.
Clickers are funny. loopers are

1255
01:14:50,580 --> 01:14:55,860
always good. This is a value for
value based program, which means

1256
01:14:55,860 --> 01:14:58,710
we have no advertising, which
means we can freely talk about

1257
01:14:58,710 --> 01:15:01,980
the medical industry. And the
venture capital industry we

1258
01:15:01,980 --> 01:15:05,160
don't rely on them to fund our
podcast but think about them

1259
01:15:05,370 --> 01:15:08,670
spending some money, what to
think about advertisers now. All

1260
01:15:08,670 --> 01:15:11,250
we have to think about is the
people who produce the show with

1261
01:15:11,250 --> 01:15:14,460
us. That is you who is listening
right now. We call you producers

1262
01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:16,980
we treat you like producers and
you do the same for us. That's

1263
01:15:16,980 --> 01:15:19,350
how the value for value works.
We'd like to thank our executive

1264
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:21,930
and Associate Executive
Producers right up front, just

1265
01:15:21,930 --> 01:15:24,060
the way Hollywood does it. And
here they are.

1266
01:15:25,410 --> 01:15:30,180
Well, we start off with well, he
gives himself this his name,

1267
01:15:30,180 --> 01:15:33,900
he's interviewed someone another
semi anonymous person, sir

1268
01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:39,570
Roscoe protector night of the
Great Lakes watershed. And he

1269
01:15:39,780 --> 01:15:44,640
contributed 2019 To celebrate
2019 The year how

1270
01:15:45,780 --> 01:15:47,130
that saved us.

1271
01:15:47,670 --> 01:15:50,910
Yeah, because this was a really
poor showing today I want to say

1272
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,440
thank you Father's Day. And I
hit send a note and a little

1273
01:15:55,440 --> 01:16:01,290
long, but for that kind of
money, twice Yes. Please refer

1274
01:16:01,290 --> 01:16:06,300
to me as sir Roscoe Fuck 2018
The year has been an absolute is

1275
01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:10,890
it been absolute dog shit very
profane by the cover your kids

1276
01:16:10,890 --> 01:16:16,380
ears bring on 2019 hence my
donation for 2019. If others

1277
01:16:16,380 --> 01:16:20,340
feel the same way, I encourage
them to make a similar to 2018

1278
01:16:20,340 --> 01:16:22,800
dimes or 2018. Nickels donation.

1279
01:16:23,099 --> 01:16:24,599
2019 2019.

1280
01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:28,410
He wrote 2018 But he would make
2019 Yeah. First let me

1281
01:16:28,410 --> 01:16:32,640
reminisce back about show 1007
You had a clip about some animal

1282
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,660
rights. Yeah, who talking about
sticking a hand in a cow's ass

1283
01:16:36,660 --> 01:16:40,170
to inseminate it? On a show soon
afterwards, the listener pointed

1284
01:16:40,170 --> 01:16:43,890
out that this is the wrong hole.
Kudos to the listeners for

1285
01:16:43,890 --> 01:16:46,980
paying attention and thinking
critically to what is being

1286
01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:53,580
presented instead of being mute.
Says the wrong Oh. Also, kudos

1287
01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:56,550
to you and Anna for taking that
listener feedback and admitting

1288
01:16:56,550 --> 01:17:02,220
your Miss without criticism.
That dynamic makes the show

1289
01:17:02,220 --> 01:17:07,140
unique. And by the way, I agree.
Not just we do me a CalPERS and

1290
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,890
people telling us we're wrong.
Now I said that I will say this

1291
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:15,630
in my younger days. I worked
part time as a dairy milker I

1292
01:17:15,630 --> 01:17:19,170
wanted to move up the levels to
make more money. So I

1293
01:17:19,170 --> 01:17:22,260
accompanied another worker who
was doing so birthing and

1294
01:17:22,260 --> 01:17:28,380
inseminating the birthing was
sloppy, but the inseminating No

1295
01:17:28,380 --> 01:17:33,600
thanks. It did involve sticking
one arm not just one hand inside

1296
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,170
the ass. I think it was to help
them with placement of the

1297
01:17:37,170 --> 01:17:41,580
specimen. Regardless not for me.
It was then I decided I already

1298
01:17:41,580 --> 01:17:45,960
had enough skills and I didn't
need to make more money. John,

1299
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:50,040
you are correct. Michigan
potholes are ridiculous. I like

1300
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,150
your description of Chuck hole
instead of pothole, particularly

1301
01:17:54,150 --> 01:17:57,450
for the big ones where you feel
like chucking up your lunch

1302
01:17:57,450 --> 01:18:02,250
after hitting it. Please give a
douche bag for the following.

1303
01:18:03,450 --> 01:18:07,680
People who don't try to speed up
to highway speed upon entering a

1304
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:14,880
freeway on ramp to people who
designed freeway on ramps

1305
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:20,670
ridiculously short. People who
don't know how to turn their car

1306
01:18:20,670 --> 01:18:24,510
lights on all the lights not
just the automatic idiot lights

1307
01:18:24,510 --> 01:18:30,360
during inclement weather snow
blizzard fog and rain please

1308
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,710
give an old fashioned Pelosi
jobs karma for my family. Please

1309
01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:37,590
give a karma to the producers of
the show. I'm not talking only

1310
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:40,290
the financial producers I'm
talking about those who provide

1311
01:18:40,290 --> 01:18:43,470
clips and art and that Aussie
dude is amazing.

1312
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,980
Aussie dude. I think it's the
drunk Ozzy dude.

1313
01:18:47,730 --> 01:18:48,930
I don't know about Chris Yeah

1314
01:18:48,930 --> 01:18:49,470
Chris

1315
01:18:49,650 --> 01:18:53,070
with pass donations. I did not
get the karmic effect I had

1316
01:18:53,070 --> 01:18:57,750
anticipated I think the issue is
that I never deduced myself oh

1317
01:18:57,750 --> 01:19:05,490
please de douche me. You've been
de Deus. We're wrapping keep it

1318
01:19:05,490 --> 01:19:07,800
up guys. You're providing a
valuable service by encouraging

1319
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,890
critical thinking let's play all
the Sharpton prompter and Asti

1320
01:19:10,890 --> 01:19:14,820
dude clips. You can at the end
of a show or a DOS show or end

1321
01:19:14,820 --> 01:19:22,050
of show. And so all we need to
do now is the Pelosi jobs and

1322
01:19:22,050 --> 01:19:25,560
karma All right, and I guess
that's it under the oh you gave

1323
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:26,880
him the D douching. I did

1324
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,580
yes and Sir Roscoe protect
tonight the Great Lakes

1325
01:19:29,580 --> 01:19:31,710
watershed. Thank you for your
courage

1326
01:19:31,740 --> 01:19:39,810
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote. Karma

1327
01:19:42,690 --> 01:19:49,260
and that was a welcome check.
Brian Frey Fraser. Fraser.

1328
01:19:49,290 --> 01:19:55,890
Fraser in Magnolia Texas.
338 38. I'm still voting. This

1329
01:19:55,890 --> 01:19:58,770
is my first donation. My boss
hit me in the mouth this last

1330
01:19:58,770 --> 01:20:04,110
January. I look forward that's
nice I like the bosses getting

1331
01:20:04,110 --> 01:20:07,950
their employees to listen and
know exactly what bosses bosses

1332
01:20:07,950 --> 01:20:11,010
are the word you're each I look
forward to each new show and I

1333
01:20:11,010 --> 01:20:14,280
really appreciate the work you
guys do I'm uh I'm building a

1334
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,760
new home so and we so look past
karma and they answer Jingle

1335
01:20:18,060 --> 01:20:19,830
All right, well give you a
little bit of the ants jingle

1336
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:28,680
then I got ants ants

1337
01:20:36,060 --> 01:20:40,380
ants we had an invasion. I was
thinking if you if you

1338
01:20:40,380 --> 01:20:49,740
desiccating big pot you've got
karma on we're just sure, Colin,

1339
01:20:50,010 --> 01:20:53,250
the friendly Fat Man. It'd be
the first Associate Executive

1340
01:20:53,250 --> 01:20:59,670
Producer we have to intuited a
turn $146.80 little note here.

1341
01:21:00,660 --> 01:21:03,660
Circling the friendly Fat Man
checking in from Cincinnati for

1342
01:21:03,660 --> 01:21:06,180
Father's Day just wanted to
flesh out my donation notes

1343
01:21:06,180 --> 01:21:11,190
since Pay Pal cut it short. My
donation is for x the 6170 for

1344
01:21:11,190 --> 01:21:15,720
Father's Day, I would like my
wish my brother, my brother to

1345
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:20,520
brother in law's and above all
my dad a Happy Father's Day.

1346
01:21:22,290 --> 01:21:27,120
Right on all right. I have to
thank my father especially he's

1347
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,520
been such an unbelievable
example to me and my six

1348
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,730
siblings throughout our lives.
He worked relentlessly to

1349
01:21:32,730 --> 01:21:35,610
support us moonlighting for
years on top of starting and

1350
01:21:35,610 --> 01:21:39,690
successfully running his own
practice. When he had his

1351
01:21:39,690 --> 01:21:43,170
practice and running instead of
just taking it easy and patting

1352
01:21:43,170 --> 01:21:46,140
himself on the back. He along
with my mother really should

1353
01:21:46,140 --> 01:21:49,230
start a small school for large
families who wanted an education

1354
01:21:49,230 --> 01:21:52,860
free of the brainwashing and
dimension be drivel at the price

1355
01:21:52,860 --> 01:21:57,210
people with a couple of kids can
actually afford it all while he

1356
01:21:57,210 --> 01:22:00,060
worked and ran his practice. I
cannot imagine what life would

1357
01:22:00,060 --> 01:22:03,540
be like without him without him
setting the example of not only

1358
01:22:03,540 --> 01:22:06,870
being a hard working smart,
rational, responsible man who

1359
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:10,290
cares for his family, but the
man who steps up and does what

1360
01:22:10,290 --> 01:22:13,380
he can do to help his community
and those around him without

1361
01:22:13,410 --> 01:22:17,310
thanks. And at a great personal
cost. So thanks, Dad for being

1362
01:22:17,310 --> 01:22:21,180
truly a man apart ever making me
the man I am today. There's no

1363
01:22:21,180 --> 01:22:23,910
way I could ever repay you. I
love you. And Happy Father's

1364
01:22:23,910 --> 01:22:26,190
Day, sir. Call it friendly
Batman.

1365
01:22:26,190 --> 01:22:31,260
That's a very nice note. Very
nice. And I think you know, I

1366
01:22:31,260 --> 01:22:35,280
will say for all of you dads out
there is not it's not easy being

1367
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:40,560
a dad, especially if you're
white is hard is hard to do

1368
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,440
because you're toxic masculinity
and all this stuff and it's

1369
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:48,630
hard. But but the for those of
you who are doing the dad thing,

1370
01:22:48,810 --> 01:22:53,880
and you feel good about it.
Thank you said being a dad as it

1371
01:22:53,910 --> 01:22:57,900
is. There's a real job to it.
Yeah, I may sound a little

1372
01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:03,600
traditional, a old Yeah, old
fart. Yeah, but I appreciate

1373
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,000
notes like this because that
sounds like he has a great dad.

1374
01:23:06,660 --> 01:23:11,340
He does. John Donovan to 3330 to
conclude our Executive Associate

1375
01:23:11,340 --> 01:23:19,080
Executive Producers list he says
so I'm retro dot 38 Plus

1376
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:24,030
Father's Day shout out to mutton
Jeff and the best podcast in the

1377
01:23:24,030 --> 01:23:29,070
33 universes from the barren of
Silicon Valley. Please give some

1378
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:34,410
LG Yeah. Service Code karma for
all the dads out there living

1379
01:23:34,440 --> 01:23:38,250
and pass to help make happy
Father's Day John and Adam also

1380
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:38,940
a Happy Father's

1381
01:23:38,940 --> 01:23:41,940
Day to you you go into the next
line.

1382
01:23:42,510 --> 01:23:45,990
I think I cut off he helped me
Happy Father's Day. No,

1383
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:48,480
I think it's helped make me the
man I am today. Oh,

1384
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:49,440
I'm on the wrong guy.

1385
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:51,540
Yeah, you're right. You skipped
that you skipped over to the

1386
01:23:51,540 --> 01:23:56,970
next guy. So he has his his LG
wi and service. Good Karma.

1387
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:01,680
We've got that. You've got
karma.

1388
01:24:04,350 --> 01:24:07,350
All right. That's our four
people. And we want to thank

1389
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:09,900
them well, profusely. Yes, thank

1390
01:24:09,900 --> 01:24:13,380
you because I would have been
pretty disastrous for us

1391
01:24:13,380 --> 01:24:18,210
otherwise, our executive
producers. What? Yeah, yeah,

1392
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,230
I wouldn't be happy.

1393
01:24:19,349 --> 01:24:23,279
Especially. We got our crew we
got robbed of our Krugerrands on

1394
01:24:23,279 --> 01:24:30,059
the previous show. We're in dire
straits people. Thank you. This

1395
01:24:30,059 --> 01:24:32,309
is the only way the program
works and it's how we've been

1396
01:24:32,309 --> 01:24:34,409
able to do it for more than 10
years and you're a part of it.

1397
01:24:34,409 --> 01:24:37,709
It is your show and we will
thank more of you later on.

1398
01:24:38,039 --> 01:24:41,909
Father's Day Happy Father's Day
shout outs a couple as well as

1399
01:24:41,909 --> 01:24:45,629
everyone above $50 and reminder
that we have another show coming

1400
01:24:45,629 --> 01:24:51,209
up on Thursday. Please remember
us at VO rec.org/in A you

1401
01:24:51,209 --> 01:24:53,489
already got some great
deconstruction you've got the

1402
01:24:53,489 --> 01:24:58,589
formula go out there propagated
our formula is this. We go out

1403
01:24:59,249 --> 01:25:00,449
for yet people in In the mouth

1404
01:25:14,639 --> 01:25:19,319
just reflecting on the on the,
on the donation segment there,

1405
01:25:19,349 --> 01:25:23,759
but I know you've seen this or
heard of this I was worthwhile

1406
01:25:23,789 --> 01:25:29,129
to play the commercial. So this
is a commercial. I'm telling you

1407
01:25:29,129 --> 01:25:30,299
right up front. It's a
commercial

1408
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,510
Domino's delivery drivers are
experts in handling bad roads.

1409
01:25:35,490 --> 01:25:38,100
But those roads shouldn't ruin
your pizza when you carry out.

1410
01:25:38,490 --> 01:25:41,100
So we're doing something about
them starting with this one.

1411
01:25:43,530 --> 01:25:47,010
So the commercial is a big
Domino's pizza truck going

1412
01:25:47,010 --> 01:25:51,090
around the country and filling
up with potholes. And many

1413
01:25:51,090 --> 01:25:53,700
people have tweeted this to you,
John. And they've said hey, it

1414
01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:56,430
looks like Domino's is solving
one of your biggest pet peeves.

1415
01:25:56,430 --> 01:25:57,630
Your response, sir.

1416
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,520
I think is I wish more companies
would start filling potholes

1417
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,410
because their government a
corrupt government is not going

1418
01:26:04,410 --> 01:26:07,980
to do it. And in fact, there was
a pothole worst pot you can look

1419
01:26:07,980 --> 01:26:11,730
this up on the Twitter's or
Twitter's but the beings in the

1420
01:26:11,730 --> 01:26:16,020
Google's worst potholes in the
in the nation's top 10 pothole

1421
01:26:16,020 --> 01:26:17,790
cities. Four of them are in
California.

1422
01:26:17,850 --> 01:26:21,060
Are they filling any of the
potholes in California? No,

1423
01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:21,240
there's

1424
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:25,140
no potholes being filled here.
Now or Chuck holes as I like to

1425
01:26:25,140 --> 01:26:25,440
call it?

1426
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:29,880
Oh, that's lame. I mean, maybe
you should dig right into them.

1427
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,540
We we can get a social media
campaign going something going

1428
01:26:33,540 --> 01:26:38,160
viral. I can see the grumpy old
man wants his pothole filled.

1429
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:43,200
Once a shock hole filled a
grumpy old Berkeley man wants

1430
01:26:43,230 --> 01:26:51,390
Chuck hole filled calls Domino's
Pizza by mistake. So my

1431
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,570
Well, what are you gonna do?

1432
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:58,140
Now? I got a note back from
producer Shari. Shari. Shari. I

1433
01:26:58,140 --> 01:27:05,130
was born there in Utah. We shook
the rain stick on Thursday for

1434
01:27:05,130 --> 01:27:09,330
Colorado for the fires, it
started to rain. And lo and

1435
01:27:09,330 --> 01:27:11,610
behold, three days later, well
actually was yesterday.

1436
01:27:12,420 --> 01:27:16,860
Terentius rain all of a sudden
in Austin, it just and right on

1437
01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:20,160
downtown. And then it led up it
went came down again. And then

1438
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,850
it was gone. It always happens
with the stick. Yeah, these

1439
01:27:23,850 --> 01:27:27,180
things are real. And we had some
questions about the operation of

1440
01:27:27,180 --> 01:27:29,340
it. Even though we are both
fully licensed and trained

1441
01:27:29,340 --> 01:27:33,150
professionals of the rainstick.
People are it's good just like

1442
01:27:33,150 --> 01:27:35,490
flying all you want to check
ride and you want to you want to

1443
01:27:35,490 --> 01:27:39,570
brush up on your skills, do your
Adam as a reminder to your

1444
01:27:39,570 --> 01:27:42,600
training to get the full effect
of your rainstick you need to

1445
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,260
allow the beads to go from one
end of the stick to the other.

1446
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:51,120
So I'm correct. Like you flip
it, let it go all the way down.

1447
01:27:51,150 --> 01:27:53,610
Then you flip it again, let it
go all the way down. You would

1448
01:27:53,610 --> 01:27:56,910
just shake it. Like one of
those, like the fiber. Wait, you

1449
01:27:56,910 --> 01:27:57,030
know,

1450
01:27:57,030 --> 01:28:01,260
but yeah, no, no, no, I'm doing
the exact same thing. I don't

1451
01:28:01,260 --> 01:28:04,170
know where you're getting this
from. I'm doing the exact same

1452
01:28:04,170 --> 01:28:07,800
thing except I am at the end of
the flip. There's a bunch of

1453
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,730
balls that are stuck at the top
and I'm sure hold on all that

1454
01:28:11,730 --> 01:28:12,480
come to the bottom

1455
01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:16,320
your beat your ball should not
get stuck at the top. Your balls

1456
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,750
should go to the bottom. Well,
then you have a defective unit.

1457
01:28:19,170 --> 01:28:22,140
I do not. You could shake your
hand you'd find the same thing.

1458
01:28:22,140 --> 01:28:22,590
You shake your

1459
01:28:22,590 --> 01:28:25,110
boss. I'm gonna shake my balls
because I don't want it to rain

1460
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:29,580
again. Anyway, yeah, she says
I'm just reading from the

1461
01:28:29,580 --> 01:28:32,610
manual. All right, don't kill
the messenger. To get the full

1462
01:28:32,610 --> 01:28:34,800
effect of your rainstick you
need to allow the beads to go

1463
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,710
from one end of the stick to the
other. However, when you're on

1464
01:28:37,710 --> 01:28:40,770
the road trip through Utah, the
rain stick did bounce around a

1465
01:28:40,770 --> 01:28:44,460
lot and it did bring rain, big
rain. That's a lot different

1466
01:28:44,460 --> 01:28:48,480
than John's half assed shakes on
Thursday show. I think that if

1467
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:51,090
you're going to shake it, shake
it three times from one end to

1468
01:28:51,090 --> 01:28:54,690
the other and say where you need
the rain to go. By the way it

1469
01:28:54,690 --> 01:28:59,310
did rain in Salt Lake Valley
Friday. Much Love Your rainstick

1470
01:28:59,700 --> 01:29:06,750
creator and trainer Sherry
Osborne. So that's so we need to

1471
01:29:06,810 --> 01:29:08,520
we need to state more clearly.

1472
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:10,980
I think I'm still getting to
their brain supposed

1473
01:29:10,980 --> 01:29:13,440
to go. Yeah, because there's
some of the energy is flow

1474
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:16,200
always in Austin. I'm not doing
it right. Or sometimes he gets

1475
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:20,610
great. No, it's not. It washes
the streets. It brings back the

1476
01:29:20,610 --> 01:29:27,090
mold. It's horrible. Yeah. See,
there's something else in there

1477
01:29:27,090 --> 01:29:30,840
that I wanted to mention from
the donation segment. Where is

1478
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:31,140
it?

1479
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:40,170
I can't remember. I just don't
remember. All right, well, let's

1480
01:29:40,170 --> 01:29:46,620
go to some off beat off big
offbeat clip. This is the one

1481
01:29:47,010 --> 01:29:51,120
that I'm always amused by these
stories of some young 20

1482
01:29:51,120 --> 01:30:00,270
Something women having sex with
a 15 or 16 year old guy, boy A

1483
01:30:00,540 --> 01:30:05,670
boy right boy because it's like
I think most guys most I don't

1484
01:30:05,670 --> 01:30:08,880
know maybe not so much anymore
but when I was a kid Yeah, I

1485
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,850
mean, I think most guys would
would go for it.

1486
01:30:12,450 --> 01:30:18,240
I was a that happened to me when
I was 16 Yeah, yeah

1487
01:30:19,650 --> 01:30:23,820
well let's play this this is an
ended I went for it was great.

1488
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:29,400
Now this was a story about a
couple of these women in the Bay

1489
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:29,880
Area

1490
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,630
John at DeVore ag.org These were
in case you're one of these

1491
01:30:33,630 --> 01:30:33,930
women

1492
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:41,880
these types of women in around
here and but there's a piece of

1493
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,780
information at the end of this
presentation that they just drop

1494
01:30:45,780 --> 01:30:47,910
it and they go on to the next
story and I'm like, No, I'm

1495
01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:50,790
curious play this sexual deviant
girls.

1496
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,610
Two women are under arrest in
the South Bay accused of having

1497
01:30:53,610 --> 01:30:57,330
sex with underage boys. Santa
Clara sheriff's INVESTIGATORS

1498
01:30:57,330 --> 01:31:02,310
SAY 24 year old Thalia Cisco,
and 23 year old Tina Purani had

1499
01:31:02,310 --> 01:31:05,700
sex with at least three high
school students who are 15 and

1500
01:31:05,700 --> 01:31:09,450
16 years old. Investigators say
the women use social media to

1501
01:31:09,450 --> 01:31:13,440
meet their victims. Cisco was a
student teacher at Bernal Middle

1502
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:16,380
School when the investigation
began back in April.

1503
01:31:17,309 --> 01:31:19,529
At this point, we don't have any
evidence indicating that there

1504
01:31:19,529 --> 01:31:23,609
are any victims at the school
where one of the suspects was

1505
01:31:23,609 --> 01:31:28,559
teaching that nor is there any
other victims at this point at

1506
01:31:28,559 --> 01:31:30,359
the school that the victims were
attending.

1507
01:31:31,410 --> 01:31:34,890
Detectives seized what they call
graphic evidence that the home

1508
01:31:34,890 --> 01:31:38,190
of one of the suspects were told
that the women bragged that they

1509
01:31:38,190 --> 01:31:42,420
were quote sexually deviant and
that they would quote go to hell

1510
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:44,400
for the sex acts that they
engaged in

1511
01:31:44,670 --> 01:31:47,790
now just thinking about this and
thinking back to my own

1512
01:31:47,790 --> 01:31:50,040
experience, which just kind of
popped out I hadn't thought

1513
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:54,210
about that since therapy. And
and and looking at the troll

1514
01:31:54,210 --> 01:31:56,940
room there must have been 10
guys who went he up happened to

1515
01:31:56,940 --> 01:32:02,670
me 14 Baba Baba boom right one
after another. It My experience

1516
01:32:02,670 --> 01:32:07,020
was very similar. I'm I was in
essence picked up by her and she

1517
01:32:07,020 --> 01:32:11,070
was in her late 20s. I was in
essence picked up by her on the

1518
01:32:11,070 --> 01:32:16,650
social net of the day, which was
CB radio. Which is completely

1519
01:32:16,650 --> 01:32:20,250
unloaded buddy be right here.
Hey, it's starlight, I think was

1520
01:32:20,250 --> 01:32:27,420
her name her handle. Hey, and I
was T bird. Hey, T bird. Do you

1521
01:32:27,420 --> 01:32:30,870
want to come over and talk to
Starlight in person? I was on my

1522
01:32:30,870 --> 01:32:35,400
moped so fast. That was great
until I knew her trucker husband

1523
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,070
fell out. I found out about it.
That was a little less

1524
01:32:38,490 --> 01:32:45,090
enjoyable. He threatened to kill
me. But I did not see it as

1525
01:32:45,090 --> 01:32:49,590
being abused. I don't think it
hurt me. I don't think I'm a

1526
01:32:49,590 --> 01:32:50,580
victim. I don't think

1527
01:32:51,269 --> 01:32:53,939
you're a victim. You just want
to admit it come to grips with

1528
01:32:53,939 --> 01:32:54,059
it.

1529
01:32:54,570 --> 01:33:00,000
I went through. I've needed to
go back to therapy now. Oh, no.

1530
01:33:01,140 --> 01:33:02,070
Yeah, I think

1531
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,140
at the end of the report,
they're very interested that

1532
01:33:04,290 --> 01:33:08,130
they consider themselves
deviants and their sexual acts

1533
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,970
are going to send them into hell
the crazy. What were these? I'm

1534
01:33:11,970 --> 01:33:14,580
now thinking there's something
out of the ordinary going on

1535
01:33:14,580 --> 01:33:14,940
here.

1536
01:33:14,970 --> 01:33:18,900
Oh, maybe maybe it was more than
just some just hooking up x is

1537
01:33:18,900 --> 01:33:20,430
what you're saying. Maybe it was
him yet? Well,

1538
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,800
if you listen to the end of
their report where they consider

1539
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:27,090
themselves sexual deviance going
to hell. Yeah. And who said

1540
01:33:27,090 --> 01:33:29,520
that? Did you girls,

1541
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,710
they sent me home? Oh, yeah.

1542
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,450
We're told that the women brag
that they were quote, sexually

1543
01:33:36,450 --> 01:33:40,020
deviant and that they would
quote go to hell for the sex

1544
01:33:40,020 --> 01:33:41,220
acts that they engaged in

1545
01:33:41,670 --> 01:33:45,060
their sex called okay. But so
they were a group. This was a

1546
01:33:45,060 --> 01:33:48,270
group of gals who were doing
this just to have them Oh,

1547
01:33:48,810 --> 01:33:50,700
that's like that's gonna be
diamond and

1548
01:33:52,050 --> 01:33:55,350
who knows what they were doing
but it sounds like pretty. I

1549
01:33:55,350 --> 01:33:59,400
don't know. I think they were
joking about that. Oh, maybe

1550
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:01,350
that's what and they have a
great sense of humor.

1551
01:34:01,380 --> 01:34:05,460
Just kind of kind of think they
were joking about it. Speaking

1552
01:34:05,460 --> 01:34:10,200
of joking, we really didn't
follow this very much. I'm gonna

1553
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:15,510
see I thought I might have a
clip about this. Huh? I thought

1554
01:34:15,510 --> 01:34:21,180
I had a clip but this are Katie
Bob chenko This was the

1555
01:34:21,180 --> 01:34:25,020
Ukrainian reporter who's who's
with the government I

1556
01:34:25,019 --> 01:34:28,109
had a clip and a FreeBSD
unfortunately I don't know how

1557
01:34:28,109 --> 01:34:31,559
to find it so maybe our Katie it
might be in there. We did have a

1558
01:34:31,559 --> 01:34:33,509
clip. never we never played it.

1559
01:34:33,750 --> 01:34:39,900
Yeah, and I had see, oh, this is
yours and mine was playing from

1560
01:34:39,900 --> 01:34:42,540
the dead. Yes Is my clip

1561
01:34:43,530 --> 01:34:47,970
24 hours after he was reportedly
gunned down journalist Arkady

1562
01:34:47,970 --> 01:34:51,210
Bob Trinko into the press
conference held by the Ukrainian

1563
01:34:51,210 --> 01:34:55,860
intelligence service, alive and
well. His apparent death, an

1564
01:34:55,860 --> 01:34:59,790
elaborate ruse to expose an
alleged Kremlin plot to kill him

1565
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,220
Even his wife was in the dark.

1566
01:35:03,150 --> 01:35:06,210
I want to apologize to my wife
for the hell she has gone

1567
01:35:06,210 --> 01:35:10,110
through over the past two days.
Or let's go forgive me, please.

1568
01:35:10,230 --> 01:35:11,550
But there was no other option,

1569
01:35:12,150 --> 01:35:16,110
relief and incredulity at the TV
station where Bob chenko had

1570
01:35:16,110 --> 01:35:19,950
been working in TF, as the
Russian born journalist made his

1571
01:35:19,950 --> 01:35:23,790
dramatic reappearance. The joy
of bad Kinkos returned was

1572
01:35:23,790 --> 01:35:26,490
shared later by the Ukrainian
president.

1573
01:35:28,350 --> 01:35:31,440
I think millions of people are
for celebrating this as your

1574
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:35,220
birthday. My heart beats so hard
as I watched the reaction in the

1575
01:35:35,220 --> 01:35:39,870
newsroom. I knew about the
operation, but no one else in

1576
01:35:39,870 --> 01:35:43,500
the administration was aware.
I'm certain that it had to be

1577
01:35:43,500 --> 01:35:46,950
that way. So now we celebrate
your birthday again,

1578
01:35:47,220 --> 01:35:50,610
reports that Bob chenko had been
gunned down outside his Kyiv

1579
01:35:50,610 --> 01:35:54,660
apartment emerged on Tuesday
evening, the Ukrainian security

1580
01:35:54,660 --> 01:35:58,320
agencies said the bogus killing
had been a necessary part of the

1581
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:02,310
sting operation. They reportedly
arrested this man on Wednesday

1582
01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:07,110
afternoon, he said to have been
paid $40,000 to organize and

1583
01:36:07,110 --> 01:36:11,490
kill that chenko in Ukraine. But
his fellow journalists toasted

1584
01:36:11,490 --> 01:36:15,090
the resurrection of their slain
colleague, that bizarre incident

1585
01:36:15,090 --> 01:36:19,170
has set off a war of words
between Kyiv and Moscow. And

1586
01:36:19,170 --> 01:36:22,440
wider concern among the
international community over

1587
01:36:22,440 --> 01:36:25,230
Ukraine's fake news, ruse.

1588
01:36:25,260 --> 01:36:29,820
Yes, fake news. Indeed. And it
didn't get a lot of play. This

1589
01:36:29,820 --> 01:36:32,700
was actually a year I think a
Euro news report didn't get a

1590
01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:33,090
lot of

1591
01:36:33,090 --> 01:36:37,230
play, network play. All the
networks covered it right,

1592
01:36:37,230 --> 01:36:41,190
but not really any far reaching
discussion about it. No,

1593
01:36:41,190 --> 01:36:44,130
it ended with the story itself.
And then all of them had a fake

1594
01:36:44,130 --> 01:36:46,740
news kicker. I don't know what
the point of that was. Because

1595
01:36:46,740 --> 01:36:49,050
that was a really, it was a
sting operation that people

1596
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,960
well, you're gonna call it every
one of those fake news. And by

1597
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:54,840
the way, they left a couple of
factoids out yeah, there's a

1598
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,530
number of them. Yeah, go ahead,
which includes the guy who got

1599
01:36:58,530 --> 01:37:02,790
the 40 Grand from who knows
where he hired the hitman. He's

1600
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:05,010
the one who hired the hitman,
the Hitman and went right to

1601
01:37:05,010 --> 01:37:07,890
this writer and says, hey,
they're getting a hit out for

1602
01:37:07,890 --> 01:37:11,010
you. I'm supposed to shoot you.
So then they went to the police

1603
01:37:11,010 --> 01:37:13,920
and organized a fake. And so
then when the guy went to

1604
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:18,630
collect his money, that's when
they arrested this his character

1605
01:37:18,630 --> 01:37:22,920
who? And then they made a point
of of being fake news. And then

1606
01:37:22,950 --> 01:37:26,940
finally, where's the follow up?
What was this guy connected to

1607
01:37:26,940 --> 01:37:29,370
anybody? Was he Putin spam?

1608
01:37:30,060 --> 01:37:33,540
So the lack of follow up is, is
very annoying, because there's

1609
01:37:33,540 --> 01:37:36,300
pretty there's none of it.
There's no follow up. Oh, follow

1610
01:37:36,300 --> 01:37:39,720
up. Now, first of all, we have
to recognize that governments do

1611
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:43,650
this. Governments do all kinds
of weird shit to get to get news

1612
01:37:43,650 --> 01:37:46,590
into circulation for all kinds
of reasons. And that's something

1613
01:37:46,590 --> 01:37:50,400
that you will not be discussed
on the M five M, of course. But

1614
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,190
now let's look at some of the
things that while I'm going to

1615
01:37:53,190 --> 01:37:56,430
take one in particular AFP as
John halls press, I think pretty

1616
01:37:56,430 --> 01:38:00,390
reputable news organization.
Yep, you'd like him. You know, I

1617
01:38:00,390 --> 01:38:02,520
think they're pretty decent.
They're they're slanted a little

1618
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:07,320
more obviously slanted towards
French political views. But the

1619
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:12,060
AFP published the story never
retracted. It never changed. It

1620
01:38:12,060 --> 01:38:16,890
just deleted it. And so here's a
copy on it of it on, on on

1621
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:21,000
archive.org. And there's some
interesting facts in here as

1622
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:31,200
well. So it says here, he was
shot dead in broad daylight. his

1623
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:35,340
bodyguard fatally wound wounded
the gunman who was a Ukrainian

1624
01:38:35,340 --> 01:38:38,490
citizen and had fought in a
volunteer battalion against pro

1625
01:38:38,490 --> 01:38:41,910
Russian separatists in the
country's east Kyiv alleged he

1626
01:38:41,910 --> 01:38:46,110
had been recruited by Russia's
FSB security service so if the

1627
01:38:46,110 --> 01:38:50,190
store which you didn't hear in
that report, but if the story

1628
01:38:50,190 --> 01:38:53,310
went out that so they got so
here's here's what we have to

1629
01:38:53,310 --> 01:38:56,250
think happened, because AFP is
reporting this where did they

1630
01:38:56,250 --> 01:39:00,450
get this information from that
the guy was killed? He was shot,

1631
01:39:00,660 --> 01:39:05,730
but then his bodyguard fatally
wounded the gun man, who the

1632
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:11,040
government immediately said, Ah,
he was Russia's FSB FSB. He was

1633
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,890
a spy Kremlin was out to put a
hit on him

1634
01:39:15,210 --> 01:39:16,230
to eat and how does that

1635
01:39:16,980 --> 01:39:20,160
work? Did they kill that's my
question. Did they kill the guy

1636
01:39:20,910 --> 01:39:24,480
was the guy killed it during
this fake for this phony baloney

1637
01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:28,620
thing? The setup sting or did
the AFP just say thanks for the

1638
01:39:28,620 --> 01:39:31,260
info. I'm printing it roll roll
it boys

1639
01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:36,390
that's a good question. I don't
think the guy was killed. I

1640
01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:38,730
don't think anybody was killed.
But

1641
01:39:38,850 --> 01:39:42,990
maybe someone made maybe it was
that was the hit. Maybe they did

1642
01:39:42,990 --> 01:39:45,450
kill someone and just blame that
on him.

1643
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:53,130
Well, again, yeah, that was fake
news. It was designed for for a

1644
01:39:53,130 --> 01:39:57,120
purpose. It's I don't consider
it unreasonable. I consider

1645
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,970
it to be incredibly
unreasonable. This bullshit

1646
01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:04,560
Hello this is what would love
this Berzon conspiracy

1647
01:40:05,070 --> 01:40:10,050
thing which is a scam. Yes. I
mean in other words it wishes to

1648
01:40:10,050 --> 01:40:16,050
give some more bad press to
Russia possibly but it seems to

1649
01:40:16,050 --> 01:40:19,590
be no follow up we don't have a
clue of what what happened and

1650
01:40:19,590 --> 01:40:26,130
it's just ridiculous as there's
no follow up now Yeah, so it's

1651
01:40:26,130 --> 01:40:28,860
just all speculation Okay, well
as the bet well we had a

1652
01:40:28,860 --> 01:40:33,060
situation that just happened in
Moscow during the day of the

1653
01:40:33,870 --> 01:40:35,640
World Cup. World Cup

1654
01:40:35,670 --> 01:40:38,970
I don't have do you have the
fever? I don't have the fever. I

1655
01:40:38,970 --> 01:40:41,700
just don't have the feet No, I
won't check my temperature I'm

1656
01:40:41,700 --> 01:40:44,190
fine. I don't have the World Cup
fever yet I'm just thinking

1657
01:40:44,220 --> 01:40:49,830
Holland's not in. USA is not in
a tried getting, you know,

1658
01:40:49,860 --> 01:40:54,270
getting the fever for Messi with
Argentina. But I just don't have

1659
01:40:54,270 --> 01:40:54,630
it. So here

1660
01:40:54,630 --> 01:40:58,410
we have. So here we have done
the network news. We have a

1661
01:40:58,410 --> 01:41:04,800
short 15 second clip on Russia.
And the taxi play this and then

1662
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:05,760
I want to talk about in

1663
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:09,690
Moscow disturbing video from
near Red Square. Today, a taxi

1664
01:41:09,690 --> 01:41:13,320
rammed into a sidewalk crowded
with World Cup visitors. The

1665
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:16,290
driver jumped out of the car and
tried to flee the scene but has

1666
01:41:16,290 --> 01:41:19,650
since been detained. Eight
people were injured, including

1667
01:41:19,650 --> 01:41:21,090
two people from Mexico.

1668
01:41:22,140 --> 01:41:27,120
Boom, done no more. Was it a
terrorist? Was he an Arab? Was

1669
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:32,190
the Chechnya in why was the
Russia was the Russian? What was

1670
01:41:32,190 --> 01:41:36,750
this? We don't have any clue it.
If this happened in Berlin or

1671
01:41:36,750 --> 01:41:40,170
something we'd be talking about
it for days. Yeah. Did you see

1672
01:41:40,170 --> 01:41:43,740
that? They had a good movie of
this guy goes to drive. His taxi

1673
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:46,230
goes right on the sidewalk just
plows into a hole

1674
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:50,910
and then runs and tries to get
away. Yeah. Which to me, to me

1675
01:41:50,910 --> 01:41:55,260
doesn't look like oops, I lost
control of the car. But yeah, I

1676
01:41:55,260 --> 01:41:57,480
love how the crowd went after
him. No, that was great.

1677
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,570
Russians don't You don't want to
mess around in Russia. The crash

1678
01:42:00,570 --> 01:42:05,190
was after? Yeah. In America.
Ooh, stand to stand aside.

1679
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,510
I cover in place a cover,

1680
01:42:10,260 --> 01:42:13,440
drop role, sheltering shelter in
place.

1681
01:42:13,740 --> 01:42:15,210
Shelter in Place, the World

1682
01:42:15,210 --> 01:42:18,450
Cup has given us a unique
opportunity to finally hear

1683
01:42:18,450 --> 01:42:22,770
something we've been wanting to
hear. And that is President

1684
01:42:22,770 --> 01:42:26,130
Vladimir Putin speaking English.
You've always wanted to know how

1685
01:42:26,130 --> 01:42:27,180
good his English is.

1686
01:42:29,670 --> 01:42:32,760
Yeah, you did you you wanted to
know more than anyone. I would

1687
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:38,010
say pretty damn good. You can
get to know Russia. A unique

1688
01:42:38,010 --> 01:42:46,440
country with a long history and
rich culture. Not bad. Not bad

1689
01:42:46,440 --> 01:42:46,740
at all.

1690
01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:51,360
I think his English is pretty
good. It's not bad. It's not

1691
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:55,020
bad. Not bad at all. Not bad at
all. So he speaks English.

1692
01:42:55,500 --> 01:43:00,060
But more importantly, he
understands English. Yeah,

1693
01:43:00,180 --> 01:43:03,660
definitely. So when he's in one
of these meetings and asking

1694
01:43:03,660 --> 01:43:06,060
them something in English, he's
getting the nuance and then

1695
01:43:06,060 --> 01:43:08,790
they've translated to Russian
and he knows what they actually

1696
01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:10,740
asked instead of what they
translate.

1697
01:43:11,550 --> 01:43:16,230
Let's do a little NoCo. Which is
meal speak for North Korea,

1698
01:43:16,350 --> 01:43:20,190
apparently do speak. Newspeak.
I'm sorry, not mill speak is

1699
01:43:20,190 --> 01:43:23,940
Newspeak? What have you been
learning over? What have you

1700
01:43:23,940 --> 01:43:24,480
learned broth?

1701
01:43:24,510 --> 01:43:25,650
Or what have I been learning?

1702
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:27,750
What do you been learning over
the past couple of days?

1703
01:43:28,410 --> 01:43:34,050
I have kind of not followed it.
As far as I'm concerned. You

1704
01:43:34,050 --> 01:43:36,600
know, it's just a lot of blather
at this point. People reacting

1705
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:41,250
our way. Chuck Schumer, you
know, saying that it was a bad

1706
01:43:41,250 --> 01:43:45,480
idea to even talk to these guys.
I do have one thought, which is

1707
01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:48,900
that when you know Trump, and I
think rightfully so takes credit

1708
01:43:48,900 --> 01:43:53,160
for being the first President
ever to have the guts to go over

1709
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,180
there or go meet with the guys
because they could have killed

1710
01:43:57,180 --> 01:44:00,630
him. You just put a suicide
bomber in there and kill them.

1711
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:06,090
But this is not because not
because of this is really kind

1712
01:44:06,090 --> 01:44:09,480
of a Trump going rogue because I
think then the intelligence

1713
01:44:09,480 --> 01:44:13,770
agencies and the military have
done everything they can to keep

1714
01:44:13,980 --> 01:44:16,860
a president from ever meeting up
with those guys, so they could

1715
01:44:16,860 --> 01:44:18,150
sell more arms. Yeah.

1716
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:20,550
And keep an eye on China.

1717
01:44:22,260 --> 01:44:25,230
So yeah, well, we got lots of
ways to keep an eye on China,

1718
01:44:25,230 --> 01:44:25,530
but

1719
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,890
a lot of a lot has been said
about this video that that Trump

1720
01:44:28,890 --> 01:44:29,370
showed

1721
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:33,780
the showing the hotels and well,
it was more

1722
01:44:33,780 --> 01:44:38,160
it was more like a movie trailer
with you know, imagine a world

1723
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:41,310
where you don't give up your
nukes, you will die. This will

1724
01:44:41,310 --> 01:44:44,910
be horrible. We will kill you.
Imagine a world where you go

1725
01:44:44,910 --> 01:44:48,240
into the condo business with me.
It'll be great. Tourism is up.

1726
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:53,220
Fantastic. That was kind of the
video, which is, to me, a very

1727
01:44:53,220 --> 01:44:57,600
appropriate pitch from a guy
like Trump to a guy like that.

1728
01:44:58,470 --> 01:45:01,350
And I'm sure he pitches too
Everybody with beautiful,

1729
01:45:01,620 --> 01:45:06,330
beautiful with the montage stuff
and showing how great your

1730
01:45:06,330 --> 01:45:08,730
buildings going to be. And it's
what this what you do is to

1731
01:45:08,730 --> 01:45:12,120
develop as we do in a pitch you
put together a great video, and

1732
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:17,010
I think it's a very novel way of
doing it. Some response to that

1733
01:45:17,010 --> 01:45:21,300
in a moment, but first, a video
created by the New York Times,

1734
01:45:21,630 --> 01:45:27,240
who lay down some smacking facts
on us in a beautiful composition

1735
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:33,420
that then we've seen it before,
but now completely gives you

1736
01:45:33,750 --> 01:45:35,760
prediction of the decade.

1737
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,060
This massive show of North
Korean forests is meant to

1738
01:45:39,060 --> 01:45:43,320
inspire postcards, not paranoia.
troops and construction workers

1739
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:45,960
gathered in June to celebrate a
new sprawling tourist

1740
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:49,560
destination on the coast of one
sand about two and a half hours

1741
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,920
from Pyongyang. But one san is
known for more than sand beaches

1742
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:57,510
and sunshine. The North Korean
regime runs an airbase in one

1743
01:45:57,510 --> 01:46:00,660
sin, and it's from here that it
planned to launch missiles

1744
01:46:00,660 --> 01:46:05,010
capable of striking US military
targets in Japan and Guam. live

1745
01:46:05,010 --> 01:46:11,460
fire drills were conducted here
as recently as 2017. That didn't

1746
01:46:11,460 --> 01:46:14,280
stop President Trump a former
real estate developer from

1747
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:15,450
spotting the potential

1748
01:46:15,480 --> 01:46:18,660
whenever they're exploding their
cannons into the ocean, right. I

1749
01:46:18,660 --> 01:46:21,180
said boy, look at that. What
would that make a great condo.

1750
01:46:22,410 --> 01:46:24,720
And I explained I said you know,
instead of doing that you could

1751
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:26,940
have the best hotels in the
world right there.

1752
01:46:27,180 --> 01:46:31,020
Kim Jong Un was already on the
case in his 2000. At New Year's

1753
01:46:31,020 --> 01:46:35,370
address, he made those beach
condos a priority on a munition

1754
01:46:35,370 --> 01:46:38,430
will have satellite images and
other photos revealed that the

1755
01:46:38,430 --> 01:46:42,120
coastline has been under heavy
construction since January. Even

1756
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,850
at night we see how these two
missile launch pads have given

1757
01:46:44,850 --> 01:46:48,600
way to rows upon rows of
beachfront buildings. Here on

1758
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,510
the left we see the beach lined
with artillery for military

1759
01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:55,740
drill in 2017. And on the right
is the same strip of land in

1760
01:46:55,740 --> 01:47:00,300
2018. Construction of a tourism
destination is in full swing.

1761
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:04,200
The project has at least 150
buildings some as high as 12

1762
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:07,260
storeys. Pyongyang said that the
tourist zone should attract at

1763
01:47:07,260 --> 01:47:09,990
least 1 million visitors per
year, but in a country

1764
01:47:09,990 --> 01:47:13,410
synonymous with prison camps
purchase and extreme poverty. It

1765
01:47:13,410 --> 01:47:16,560
is unclear where these tourists
will come from yet the hope

1766
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,200
seems to be that condos and
cabanas will get the cash

1767
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,590
flowing during a visit to North
Korea in May Secretary of State

1768
01:47:22,590 --> 01:47:25,050
Mike Pompeo said Americans could
help with that.

1769
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,020
Here's what this will look like
this will be Americans coming in

1770
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:31,200
private sector Americans, not
the US taxpayer coming in to

1771
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:33,900
help build out the energy grid
to work with them to develop

1772
01:47:33,900 --> 01:47:35,190
infrastructure. And that

1773
01:47:35,190 --> 01:47:37,980
same week, photos of Kim
visiting the construction site

1774
01:47:38,010 --> 01:47:41,640
were published. The North Korea
flashy skyscrapers and shiny

1775
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,460
holiday resorts that Trump's
showed Kim in this inspirational

1776
01:47:44,460 --> 01:47:48,240
video at the Singapore summit
might still be a way off world

1777
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:48,450
can

1778
01:47:48,450 --> 01:47:49,650
begin today.

1779
01:47:50,130 --> 01:47:52,980
With the doors of opportunity
are ready to be open.

1780
01:47:53,370 --> 01:47:56,580
But if Kim gives up bombs for
beaches, it might be time to

1781
01:47:56,580 --> 01:47:58,710
reach for sunblock instead of
sanctions.

1782
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:10,290
So the New York Times has
validated your theory. Yep. It

1783
01:48:10,290 --> 01:48:13,140
was not just a theory. It was a
prediction came years ago, you

1784
01:48:13,140 --> 01:48:16,470
said they really just want to be
a tourist destination. And

1785
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:20,220
here's the New York Times
reporting on just that. And at

1786
01:48:20,220 --> 01:48:25,080
the no agenda show. I think in
general we celebrate whatever

1787
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,540
happened however, that went
down. This is all very recent

1788
01:48:27,540 --> 01:48:30,750
development. We were not aware
of this beach building as far as

1789
01:48:30,750 --> 01:48:33,870
I know, I hadn't heard about it
about these condos and they're

1790
01:48:33,870 --> 01:48:36,990
taking out military
installations to build what is

1791
01:48:36,990 --> 01:48:44,010
it condos and cabanas and
beaches instead of bombs? We

1792
01:48:44,010 --> 01:48:47,130
celebrate this this is
fantastic. It looks to me like

1793
01:48:47,130 --> 01:48:51,630
there was a long long game on
this. They had the guys set up

1794
01:48:52,020 --> 01:48:57,000
and it's already in play. And
you know what I want my spot in

1795
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:00,960
North Korea. I need some land
over there. This is going to be

1796
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:02,070
a great place.

1797
01:49:02,970 --> 01:49:07,140
I've said this before in that
presentation they do once a year

1798
01:49:07,140 --> 01:49:10,290
and there they have the world's
largest soccer stadium in North

1799
01:49:10,290 --> 01:49:16,620
Korea. It's holds 220 plus 1000
people and they do this big

1800
01:49:16,620 --> 01:49:19,380
presentation at the end of the
year celebrating the national

1801
01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:21,390
the country in some way shape or
form and they have all these

1802
01:49:21,390 --> 01:49:23,700
people out there dance and
singing and doing all kinds of

1803
01:49:23,700 --> 01:49:28,500
circus acts and it's and the
only famous person I know that

1804
01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:32,550
size is Madeleine Albright saw
it when she was doing the beard

1805
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:39,180
right she she was she was raving
about it. And I've seen you've

1806
01:49:39,180 --> 01:49:42,720
seen movies of it. They showed
some nugget of hints of it. They

1807
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:50,400
could get $1,000 ahead I'd pay
$1,000 To see this thing I mean

1808
01:49:50,610 --> 01:49:55,080
yes they that's the kind of
money they could be bringing I

1809
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,810
mean obviously this mostly
filled with the with the locals

1810
01:49:57,810 --> 01:50:02,640
and and so no Go celebrities in
North Koreans but they could

1811
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:08,280
probably sell 100,000 tickets 25
for $1,000 they had do the math

1812
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,220
on that for a few million
dollars in the bank. Yeah.

1813
01:50:13,349 --> 01:50:18,149
Also, if you see the video at
beach looks really nice. You

1814
01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:20,489
don't you don't think of a
beautiful beach when you think

1815
01:50:20,489 --> 01:50:22,619
of North Korea because that's
not how your program but when

1816
01:50:22,619 --> 01:50:25,019
you see this video and it's on
the New York Times website, they

1817
01:50:25,019 --> 01:50:25,649
produced it.

1818
01:50:26,069 --> 01:50:30,299
Is this fantastic? Yeah, I'm
sure it's fantastic to be there.

1819
01:50:30,329 --> 01:50:34,019
Yeah. Now we've been brainwashed
completely, but it's all just to

1820
01:50:34,019 --> 01:50:37,439
sell more guns and ammo to the
South Koreans. Yeah,

1821
01:50:37,499 --> 01:50:41,489
we beaches instead of bombs.
Condos, a condos.

1822
01:50:41,939 --> 01:50:44,489
They use those bombs for
beaches. Yes, bombs

1823
01:50:44,490 --> 01:50:50,130
for beaches, condos of
collusion. It's really it is a I

1824
01:50:50,130 --> 01:50:54,360
think it's one of the best
diplomatic moves I've ever seen

1825
01:50:54,390 --> 01:50:56,670
it because you know, this was
set up. And there's our

1826
01:50:56,700 --> 01:51:00,240
Secretary of State, saying, No,
this is great. We're gonna come

1827
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:04,350
in, we're gonna make sure this
is what we do. The only

1828
01:51:04,380 --> 01:51:06,210
difference I think different
about what we've done in the

1829
01:51:06,210 --> 01:51:10,380
Middle East is we didn't have to
realize this. You know, in fact,

1830
01:51:10,410 --> 01:51:12,960
it's even better. It's like the
neutron bomb. As you remember

1831
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,540
that from when you were getting
scared as a kid. There was this

1832
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,780
bomb and the neutron bomb would
kill the people but save the

1833
01:51:18,780 --> 01:51:21,840
buildings. That's what happened
in North Korea. The buildings

1834
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,140
are there it sound is not
realized. We're still coming in

1835
01:51:25,140 --> 01:51:27,840
with our economic hitmen. We're
still going to build that up.

1836
01:51:27,870 --> 01:51:31,710
And we're doing it right under
China's nose. That came that

1837
01:51:31,710 --> 01:51:37,110
kings of doing this the kings?
Well, this is

1838
01:51:37,710 --> 01:51:40,140
I know the China thing is I've
thought about that, too. It's

1839
01:51:40,140 --> 01:51:43,020
like, well, we're gonna do this
right. And China's they're just

1840
01:51:43,020 --> 01:51:46,620
kind of gritting their teeth.
But Chinese have never been into

1841
01:51:46,620 --> 01:51:49,620
turning these into tourist
traps. No, they just want to put

1842
01:51:49,620 --> 01:51:53,730
a very good tablature in there.
As we know they do railroads

1843
01:51:53,730 --> 01:51:57,090
great. But they do roads and
railroads. So they're doing

1844
01:51:57,090 --> 01:52:00,930
Africa. Yeah, we can't seem to
do that. We can't do that roads

1845
01:52:00,930 --> 01:52:04,140
and railroads, dams. We can't do
it in our own country. We can do

1846
01:52:04,140 --> 01:52:04,800
condos.

1847
01:52:04,980 --> 01:52:07,950
We can't do rails and road in
our own country. How the Africa

1848
01:52:07,950 --> 01:52:10,590
is going like bro, have you seen
your potholes? We don't need

1849
01:52:10,590 --> 01:52:11,130
your road.

1850
01:52:12,180 --> 01:52:15,600
Yeah, here's it that's a little
irony there.

1851
01:52:15,630 --> 01:52:22,140
Now the the way this was
received over on MSNBC. And

1852
01:52:22,140 --> 01:52:26,880
again, I celebrate this idea. I
think that the day if you know

1853
01:52:26,910 --> 01:52:30,870
anything about business, you
know, these are, yeah, he's a

1854
01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:35,910
dictator. And so as the Kim Jong
Hoon, but they will they will.

1855
01:52:35,940 --> 01:52:38,970
They're still men. They're still
dudes, they still understand

1856
01:52:38,970 --> 01:52:41,580
shiny things. You know, they're
people, they poop they put on

1857
01:52:41,580 --> 01:52:46,890
their pants one leg at a time.
And so this stuff works. Visual

1858
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:51,360
aids works extremely well. But
Nicole Wallace, this is a little

1859
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,880
longer clip. But I think it'd be
worth it because you got to just

1860
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:57,420
listen to her. That she's this.
You tell me whether she's

1861
01:52:57,420 --> 01:53:02,040
unglued or unhinged. I'm not
sure which one. But she just she

1862
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:06,210
is She cannot believe that the
President put together a video

1863
01:53:06,210 --> 01:53:10,170
pitch for Kim Jong Il and it
does not fit in her mind. She

1864
01:53:10,170 --> 01:53:14,130
goes it could be unglued,
unhinged or off the rails your

1865
01:53:14,130 --> 01:53:15,030
choice sorry,

1866
01:53:15,030 --> 01:53:18,210
but that was not a tourism video
produced by the North Korean

1867
01:53:18,210 --> 01:53:23,310
regime that was a video created
by the White House for Kim Jong

1868
01:53:23,310 --> 01:53:24,570
Hoon and the North Koreans

1869
01:53:26,790 --> 01:53:30,240
it's the best four minutes
because that she can't even the

1870
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:34,110
words are sticking in her
throat. She cuz she is so

1871
01:53:34,140 --> 01:53:36,840
outraged and just can't believe
what she's just saying

1872
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:41,130
North Korean regime that was a
video created by the White House

1873
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:43,890
for Kim Jong Hoon and the North
Koreans.

1874
01:53:46,140 --> 01:53:51,960
It's the best four minutes
you'll spend in a while. Yeah,

1875
01:53:51,990 --> 01:53:54,450
there There were reporters in
the room who initially thought

1876
01:53:54,450 --> 01:53:56,490
it might have been something
that the North Korean government

1877
01:53:56,490 --> 01:53:59,400
have put together as opposed to
the White House. I mean, it is

1878
01:54:00,090 --> 01:54:03,240
those clips there it is built
like a Hollywood trailer. It's

1879
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,000
like a blockbuster movie with
its two central star Donald

1880
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:09,300
Trump Kim Jong moon that they're
that the two men who could bring

1881
01:54:09,300 --> 01:54:12,480
peace to the world. There is
even a brief Sylvester Stallone

1882
01:54:12,480 --> 01:54:14,850
cameo from the Oval Office from
that pardons ceremony two weeks

1883
01:54:14,850 --> 01:54:19,950
ago he's in there too. It is it
is a remarkable remarkable piece

1884
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:25,410
with them I saw that and then I
see this thing in the corner

1885
01:54:25,410 --> 01:54:28,500
that looks like whitehouse.gov
this White House and so I blew

1886
01:54:28,500 --> 01:54:30,480
up at least what is wrong with
that

1887
01:54:30,480 --> 01:54:34,500
you imagine as communications
director at the White House if

1888
01:54:34,500 --> 01:54:38,010
you had overseen putting
together a video like this, but

1889
01:54:38,010 --> 01:54:42,780
this is just beyond and the
strangest part is the destiny

1890
01:54:42,780 --> 01:54:45,900
productions which is apparently
the name of a film company out

1891
01:54:45,900 --> 01:54:50,730
in LA and they just didn't serve
it it in to this video and that

1892
01:54:50,730 --> 01:54:53,580
poor production company has to
have this attached to their

1893
01:54:53,580 --> 01:54:58,650
name. I'm guessing someone pay
I'm guessing the taxpayers paid

1894
01:54:58,650 --> 01:54:59,820
for that. Oh yeah.

1895
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,150
mean oh my goodness, spring
1000s of high schoolers make

1896
01:55:03,150 --> 01:55:06,900
prom proposal video. Better
dialogue, better production

1897
01:55:06,900 --> 01:55:10,590
values than that video we just
saw. But look, I think it does

1898
01:55:10,590 --> 01:55:13,740
illustrate some point here,
which is a Donald to the

1899
01:55:13,740 --> 01:55:17,250
presidency and diplomacy is
about dialogue persuasion

1900
01:55:17,250 --> 01:55:20,550
conversations, President Trump
showed he was an utter failure

1901
01:55:20,550 --> 01:55:24,120
at that at the g7 instead, he
did the one thing he can do

1902
01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:27,450
which is sell condo sell real
estate. And he thought that this

1903
01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:31,350
marketing video would be
basically in lieu of diplomacy

1904
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:38,430
with Kim and and maybe he thinks
he can sell. That's good. That's

1905
01:55:38,430 --> 01:55:38,670
good. Let's

1906
01:55:39,540 --> 01:55:43,500
look at that one that make a
great condo VI. And I explained

1907
01:55:43,650 --> 01:55:45,960
it you know, instead of doing
that you could have the best

1908
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:51,000
hotels in the think of it from a
real estate perspective. From a

1909
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:52,290
real estate perspective.

1910
01:55:53,610 --> 01:56:00,540
At the beginning, I think he
says when the neighbors when

1911
01:56:00,540 --> 01:56:03,720
we're testing Hey, I gotta see
the beginning again, think of

1912
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,510
it from a real estate
perspective, either South Korea,

1913
01:56:06,990 --> 01:56:09,690
or China. They own the land in
the middle how I don't

1914
01:56:09,690 --> 01:56:11,580
know if she's having an orgasm
or what

1915
01:56:15,810 --> 01:56:17,580
right. Unbelievable.

1916
01:56:17,580 --> 01:56:23,190
So when they're testing their
ICBMs I'm thinking it could be

1917
01:56:23,190 --> 01:56:32,910
like Boca I wouldn't pay back
the Mocha test. I won't write

1918
01:56:32,910 --> 01:56:33,570
the Mocha

1919
01:56:33,570 --> 01:56:37,860
test. You know what the Mocha
test is? The Montreal cognitive

1920
01:56:37,890 --> 01:56:42,060
assessment. Yes, the Mocha test.
Bring back the Mocha test. Trump

1921
01:56:42,060 --> 01:56:44,430
is not maybe you should take it
first.

1922
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:55,440
I'm thinking What is he like
boca? I want to bring back the

1923
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:59,040
Mocha test. I want Ronnie
Jackson under oath on Capitol

1924
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:02,850
Hill. What was that? Jeremy?
Yeah, no, he totally. You know,

1925
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:03,840
one day in the Oval. He

1926
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,960
said to his people, we should
really produce a video and make

1927
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:08,130
it like a Hollywood trailer. You

1928
01:57:08,130 --> 01:57:12,840
know, he's this he's that
together. While I was watching

1929
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:17,010
an ICBM test, the first thing I
thought was let's make boca.

1930
01:57:17,970 --> 01:57:19,590
Nation Location Location opens
it

1931
01:57:19,590 --> 01:57:23,820
opens a critical window into how
Donald Trump views the world

1932
01:57:24,180 --> 01:57:27,810
looks at it in transactional
financial terms. Yes, see an

1933
01:57:27,810 --> 01:57:31,590
ICBM that could wipe out the
United States. He sees that some

1934
01:57:31,590 --> 01:57:34,830
prime real estate and maybe I
can convince him to stop blowing

1935
01:57:34,830 --> 01:57:35,760
up the ICBM.

1936
01:57:35,790 --> 01:57:38,160
I actually think the video is
for him. I actually think the

1937
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:41,280
staff put together to convince
him about that he

1938
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:43,950
could be a super superhero in
this dialog.

1939
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:48,150
What this was all about, really,
they're trying to I think, show

1940
01:57:48,150 --> 01:57:51,060
him in a language in a
communication strategy that he

1941
01:57:51,060 --> 01:57:51,540
can understand

1942
01:57:51,540 --> 01:57:55,830
every real estate CEO, every big
CEO has moviemaking fantasies,

1943
01:57:55,830 --> 01:57:58,680
and I'm sure that Donald Trump
thinks that yes, he should

1944
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:00,840
produce this video to say,

1945
01:58:01,350 --> 01:58:03,570
let me ask you a serious
question, though. To all of you.

1946
01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:06,510
Where are the freaking grownups?
How did that happen?

1947
01:58:06,810 --> 01:58:10,350
I don't think they're at MSNBC.
Holy mackerel.

1948
01:58:10,410 --> 01:58:13,080
I would I'll give you a
borderline for that guy get only

1949
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:19,050
be cut into that because I think
you could have just cut her I

1950
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:20,790
just could have just hurt going.

1951
01:58:20,820 --> 01:58:21,600
Yeah, if I had.

1952
01:58:22,620 --> 01:58:27,720
I mean, end of the argument that
Oh, yeah. Well, everyone sees

1953
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:30,780
ballistic missiles and he sees
the property and then the

1954
01:58:30,780 --> 01:58:33,840
hotels. So so that does, he's an

1955
01:58:33,870 --> 01:58:39,960
idiot. Whereas he did something
for the adults where, you know,

1956
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:44,280
it's this stuff that brings out
Roger Stone. You got to be

1957
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:47,640
careful Nicole Wallace.
Everybody's got something to

1958
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:51,480
hide girl. I don't say that the
threatening.

1959
01:58:51,870 --> 01:58:55,440
Anyway, I would say I would say
unhinge on hands.

1960
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:59,160
Okay on page title analysis.
Thank you. I was trying to

1961
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:02,520
figure out what if it was
unhinged or here? unhinged?

1962
01:59:03,180 --> 01:59:07,530
Yes, he's, but she is off the
rails. So ah, hey,

1963
01:59:07,590 --> 01:59:14,010
an OTG update. I am off the grid
which means I no longer use my

1964
01:59:14,010 --> 01:59:17,010
smartphone. Certainly not out of
the house. I use it in the house

1965
01:59:17,010 --> 01:59:18,750
often as a very expensive
tablet.

1966
01:59:19,050 --> 01:59:24,030
I am gonna interrupt you.
Because my phone which I have

1967
01:59:24,030 --> 01:59:30,360
not used for a week and a half
because I lost it. Oh. He lost

1968
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:35,340
it. Yeah. Lost. It was found
reasonable yesterday by my

1969
01:59:35,340 --> 01:59:39,210
daughter who's cleaning up part
of the house. Yes. And hey,

1970
01:59:39,210 --> 01:59:42,390
found your phone. And so I got
the phone

1971
01:59:42,419 --> 01:59:44,639
and how long has it been
missing? And when did you notice

1972
01:59:44,639 --> 01:59:45,959
it? Did you notice about two
weeks?

1973
01:59:47,010 --> 01:59:49,110
No, I noticed pretty much when
it when

1974
01:59:49,410 --> 01:59:52,680
can you imagine any person if I
start if I do man on the street

1975
01:59:52,710 --> 01:59:56,130
and I say what would you do if
you couldn't find your phone?

1976
01:59:56,820 --> 01:59:59,520
These people would answer Yeah,
I wouldn't leave the house until

1977
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:00,510
I had the Of course.

1978
02:00:02,730 --> 02:00:05,970
So a week and a half goes by I
got my phone back. But I noticed

1979
02:00:06,150 --> 02:00:10,530
that during that I actually was
cognizant of the moments where I

1980
02:00:10,530 --> 02:00:12,990
missed the phone, and I'm gonna
tell you what they are before

1981
02:00:12,990 --> 02:00:19,890
you go into your pitch, okay? If
I go someplace where my

1982
02:00:19,890 --> 02:00:21,780
battery's gonna die or
something, I'm worried that

1983
02:00:21,780 --> 02:00:24,000
maybe the car won't start. I'll
take the phone,

1984
02:00:24,569 --> 02:00:28,079
the Lexus not starting, what
kind of heresy is this? Oh,

1985
02:00:28,079 --> 02:00:30,929
there's this. One is this
heresy? I hear?

1986
02:00:30,959 --> 02:00:33,959
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. But
I'm gonna get it fixed. That's

1987
02:00:33,959 --> 02:00:37,349
one moment. But then again, I
don't care. The other one is

1988
02:00:37,349 --> 02:00:40,019
you're going shopping, you're at
Costco or something. And you

1989
02:00:40,019 --> 02:00:46,079
might want to call your wife and
ask her if she needs something,

1990
02:00:46,109 --> 02:00:48,269
or, Hey, I saw this thing here
or you want to do it, should we

1991
02:00:48,269 --> 02:00:48,569
buy it?

1992
02:00:49,260 --> 02:00:51,480
Or just to say, Hey, baby, I
love you.

1993
02:00:52,830 --> 02:00:58,260
So those are the only two times
that I felt that maybe could use

1994
02:00:58,260 --> 02:01:01,980
the phone the rest of the time,
man, I don't need this phone. So

1995
02:01:01,980 --> 02:01:06,480
I got it by got it back. So I
have a phone again. So Well, are

1996
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:09,720
you happy? Yes. I don't find
these as useful as everybody

1997
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:10,050
else.

1998
02:01:10,350 --> 02:01:12,690
Well, it turns out that you
really don't need him. And you

1999
02:01:12,690 --> 02:01:15,870
get a lot more pleasure out of
walking around observing

2000
02:01:15,870 --> 02:01:19,230
everybody else, all the zombies
because the apocalypse is upon

2001
02:01:19,230 --> 02:01:24,150
us. So I am off the grid or OTG
for because I am anti tracking.

2002
02:01:24,150 --> 02:01:27,720
And I am pro sanity. And it's
mainly the pro sanity part,

2003
02:01:28,020 --> 02:01:31,890
which is important because you
are ill and you don't know it. I

2004
02:01:31,890 --> 02:01:35,520
was ill too. Not as bad as
others, of course, and I have a

2005
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:38,640
lot of experience in this type
of addiction. But I definitely

2006
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:41,880
had issues with the
notifications and the tracking

2007
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:45,300
and the smartphone controlling
more of my life than I wanted to

2008
02:01:45,300 --> 02:01:49,170
as a piece of wetware. So I do
you have two experiences,

2009
02:01:49,170 --> 02:01:53,430
they're very similar. And then
maybe just some advice or some

2010
02:01:53,430 --> 02:01:57,090
questions about it. So I've been
out on the town with you know,

2011
02:01:57,150 --> 02:02:00,600
Tina's daughter is with us for
the summer. And we have gone out

2012
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:05,760
to dinner a few times. And in
both cases, we had a a female

2013
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:10,470
server. But I would say in the
millennial age range, probably

2014
02:02:10,470 --> 02:02:17,910
around 2526. And you know, so I
take the Nokia, the e 71. And

2015
02:02:17,910 --> 02:02:21,960
I've been I rarely ever goes
off. I'm getting more political

2016
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:25,410
phone calls these days, can you
donate to both sides of the

2017
02:02:25,410 --> 02:02:27,930
house, and then you get calls
from both sides when it's time

2018
02:02:27,930 --> 02:02:31,710
to pony up and chip in?
Sometimes a text message and

2019
02:02:31,740 --> 02:02:34,440
yeah, but I have a few emails
that will alert me if there's an

2020
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:37,200
email that I really need to
read. One of them is from, you

2021
02:02:37,230 --> 02:02:39,540
know, a newsletter or something
like that from my daughter, and

2022
02:02:39,540 --> 02:02:42,390
that's about it. But the gnokii
said he was just there on the

2023
02:02:42,390 --> 02:02:44,910
table. I don't want to sit down,
it's in my back pocket. I can

2024
02:02:44,910 --> 02:02:48,270
sit on unlike an iPhone, it
won't hurt it. It'll be fine.

2025
02:02:49,170 --> 02:02:53,070
And in both cases, the waitress
goes like this comes over

2026
02:02:53,880 --> 02:03:03,870
drinks, talk and chat and goes
what is and in both cases I've

2027
02:03:03,870 --> 02:03:07,860
done I'm off the grid of OTG you
know, and I'm not I don't like

2028
02:03:07,860 --> 02:03:13,620
the tracking in both cases, that
has not registered at all. And

2029
02:03:13,620 --> 02:03:16,050
when I say it right off the bat
and they come back with what

2030
02:03:16,050 --> 02:03:18,570
what is it? Is it the way is
this a loaner as your phone

2031
02:03:18,570 --> 02:03:20,970
getting repaired? Wait, you're
drug dealers the burner right so

2032
02:03:20,970 --> 02:03:24,480
burner phone what now this is
the phone actually use Wow, can

2033
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:29,010
I hold it? Can I touch it?
That's just just that is in

2034
02:03:29,010 --> 02:03:35,160
there befuddled befuddled. So
here and any of them finally I

2035
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:37,740
get to the well, I'm trying to
do a digital detox, which is

2036
02:03:37,740 --> 02:03:40,050
what you need to say in the
beginning. Because if you say

2037
02:03:40,050 --> 02:03:45,450
that, they go Oh, yeah, yeah, I
am on Instagram a lot. Really?

2038
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:48,150
Yeah. How much do you think? I
don't know. But yeah, I can see

2039
02:03:48,150 --> 02:03:51,030
kind of what you're saying. And
I don't like it being tracked by

2040
02:03:51,030 --> 02:03:56,760
Facebook. Well, but then in both
cases, but if you're not doing

2041
02:03:56,760 --> 02:04:02,430
anything wrong, what do you have
to hide? And which my responses,

2042
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:05,670
young lady, when you get to be
as old as I am? You got plenty

2043
02:04:05,670 --> 02:04:09,480
to hide? Trust me, you'll find
out about that. But then, right

2044
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:12,180
after that, they'll say yeah,
you know, and it's always the

2045
02:04:12,180 --> 02:04:15,000
same. You know, you and my
friend and I were talking about

2046
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:18,120
something and then all sudden
the ad showed up on Facebook

2047
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:21,060
because this isn't this is now
an urban legend where of course

2048
02:04:21,060 --> 02:04:24,030
it hasn't happened to everybody.
But now everyone says that you

2049
02:04:24,030 --> 02:04:26,790
my best friend is one of those
stories. You know, my brother's

2050
02:04:26,790 --> 02:04:30,630
uncle. He has a friend in the
army. And he had the Facebook

2051
02:04:30,630 --> 02:04:33,360
ads show exactly what he was
talking about just a few minutes

2052
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:39,840
ago. So anyway, it is without a
doubt a great conversation

2053
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:43,500
starter. Chicks love it. But I
don't have the right comeback

2054
02:04:43,500 --> 02:04:46,500
yet. And I think you know, I
think I just need to keep with

2055
02:04:46,500 --> 02:04:50,310
the ship. What is a chick
magnet?

2056
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:51,510
She'd made

2057
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:55,290
chick magnet baby. But I think I
have to. Well, this is what Tina

2058
02:04:55,290 --> 02:04:59,400
says. She's like, this is a
chick magnet. I have to have I

2059
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:03,720
need a better come back because,
as Elise, her daughter pointed

2060
02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:06,600
out to me, astutely, she because
she saw my Glee, I'm like, Oh,

2061
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:09,300
this is fantastic. She says,
Adam, just so you know, people

2062
02:05:09,300 --> 02:05:15,300
think that you're basically a
moron. What Yeah, yeah. Because,

2063
02:05:15,300 --> 02:05:18,330
you know, the thinking is, if
you have this phone, you're such

2064
02:05:18,330 --> 02:05:22,050
an idiot, you can't even control
a smartphone. So it's not really

2065
02:05:22,050 --> 02:05:26,790
something to be happy about. And
I think that's true. So I'm

2066
02:05:26,790 --> 02:05:29,670
looking for the appropriate
response that'll just wow them.

2067
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:33,000
No, yeah, you're gonna have to
we had well, did we have we have

2068
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:36,270
the core of producers that
listen to this show? That will

2069
02:05:36,270 --> 02:05:39,000
come up with something I'm sure
better than we can just right

2070
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:43,260
now. Yeah, I will say a couple
of things about this. One, like

2071
02:05:43,290 --> 02:05:46,260
says, I don't even use the I may
have the phone, I don't, you

2072
02:05:46,260 --> 02:05:49,410
know, I've noticed a couple of
things. First of all, this

2073
02:05:49,410 --> 02:05:52,860
happened at an event I forgot my
phone, I usually forget my phone

2074
02:05:52,860 --> 02:05:57,150
all the time, but I needed to
make a call. And so it turns

2075
02:05:57,150 --> 02:06:00,480
out, you can go up to pretty
much any random person that

2076
02:06:00,810 --> 02:06:03,360
isn't like, instead of
especially at a group event,

2077
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:06,900
just ask them to use the phone.
And they always say this, but

2078
02:06:06,900 --> 02:06:10,860
I've done this a lot. And they
always say the same thing. Well,

2079
02:06:10,860 --> 02:06:12,600
as long as you're not calling
Europe.

2080
02:06:14,190 --> 02:06:18,570
Really? What America? Really, as
long as you're not calling your

2081
02:06:18,810 --> 02:06:20,370
How come that as long as you're
not calling

2082
02:06:20,969 --> 02:06:24,239
ISIS. You know, it's always you
know, you knows you're not

2083
02:06:24,239 --> 02:06:24,869
calling Europe.

2084
02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:27,930
But that but that's your
comeback you come back is no,

2085
02:06:27,930 --> 02:06:31,890
it's just my CIA handler, or,
you know, it's just my ISOCELL.

2086
02:06:32,339 --> 02:06:35,099
Yeah, I'm not pushing my luck. I
just want to get the phone call.

2087
02:06:35,099 --> 02:06:35,639
If you came

2088
02:06:35,639 --> 02:06:37,889
up to me, like, Can I can I make
I'm like, are you okay? Do you

2089
02:06:37,889 --> 02:06:40,499
need your medication is
something was terribly wrong.

2090
02:06:40,499 --> 02:06:43,859
Can I help you? No one asked you
for the phone anymore.

2091
02:06:44,370 --> 02:06:48,810
I do. So you but what I do, by
the way, as a courtesy as I

2092
02:06:48,810 --> 02:06:53,130
punch in the number I'm calling
and I show it to them. And they

2093
02:06:53,130 --> 02:06:56,700
see it's a local number, and
they go Okay, great. So then you

2094
02:06:56,700 --> 02:07:00,150
can be on the phone for as long
as you want. So that is one way

2095
02:07:00,150 --> 02:07:03,030
of getting around the end. And
people are very amenable to

2096
02:07:03,030 --> 02:07:05,970
this. So it's not really that
hard to do. The other one thing

2097
02:07:05,970 --> 02:07:09,780
I noticed is that at dinner, we
have the kids who got their

2098
02:07:09,780 --> 02:07:12,510
phones and the one of the things
about the conversation is that

2099
02:07:12,660 --> 02:07:16,020
people are always looking up
facts. Usually they get the man

2100
02:07:16,020 --> 02:07:17,640
say no, you're wrong. They go

2101
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:18,690
into Snopes to get

2102
02:07:18,690 --> 02:07:23,130
the facts. So so what I've
started to do is we'll be

2103
02:07:23,130 --> 02:07:26,100
talking about something at the
table. And then I'll say who's

2104
02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:28,380
got a phone to look it up? Look
it up? I'm not sure I'm

2105
02:07:28,380 --> 02:07:33,360
demanding that the kids look
stuff up constantly. I don't

2106
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:35,490
have to do any of the work. It's
almost like it. Oh, yeah.

2107
02:07:35,490 --> 02:07:40,890
But in fact, you've just created
a better Alexa.

2108
02:07:41,970 --> 02:07:45,210
Yeah, exactly. Just say hey,
look it up. Look it up. Look it

2109
02:07:45,210 --> 02:07:49,770
up to two people will be looking
it up and then they get Alexa,

2110
02:07:50,070 --> 02:07:53,520
Google Home. That's great. And
they will read right from the

2111
02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:57,390
wiki page or whatever they found
in varying voices enable in

2112
02:07:57,390 --> 02:07:58,980
fantastic people.

2113
02:07:59,070 --> 02:08:02,940
Don't waste your money on
talking tubes from Amazon and

2114
02:08:02,940 --> 02:08:05,430
Google and Apple. Make a kid

2115
02:08:06,180 --> 02:08:11,610
can do it. Gladly. Yeah, like
they're complaining. Oh, I gotta

2116
02:08:11,610 --> 02:08:16,710
train Elise. Yeah, I got you.
You can do it. Now that you have

2117
02:08:16,710 --> 02:08:20,070
this the dumb phone because you
can't look stuff up like the

2118
02:08:20,070 --> 02:08:20,670
kids can?

2119
02:08:20,820 --> 02:08:27,060
Well, actually, it's what's
happening now is that it's she's

2120
02:08:27,060 --> 02:08:28,320
not taking her phone to dinner.

2121
02:08:30,810 --> 02:08:33,060
Oh, well, there's a drawback to
that. Which is Yeah.

2122
02:08:33,630 --> 02:08:39,330
Yeah. And she's like, Okay, I'll
go OTG. Well, I'll tell that's

2123
02:08:39,330 --> 02:08:43,020
wrong. Someone's got to be
someone has to have the Uber

2124
02:08:43,020 --> 02:08:48,510
app, I'll say. Just in case.
Someone needs the Uber app.

2125
02:08:49,380 --> 02:08:50,340
Well, anyway,

2126
02:08:50,370 --> 02:08:53,370
let's face it, most people
aren't going to do most people

2127
02:08:53,820 --> 02:08:57,270
aren't going to do what either
one of us to do one. I don't

2128
02:08:57,270 --> 02:09:01,320
care. I don't even keep the
phone with me. Or go off the

2129
02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:04,290
grid with the with still having
the phone but having some dumb

2130
02:09:04,290 --> 02:09:06,720
old phone. Yeah, well, nobody's
going to do that. You can give

2131
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:09,690
this the OTG lecture of tilted
blue in the face and you're not

2132
02:09:09,690 --> 02:09:12,360
going to get anyone to switch.
Ah, I want to hear from one

2133
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:14,340
producer that says they're going
to switch Oh, we

2134
02:09:14,370 --> 02:09:18,510
have tons of producers have
switched. Then the Nokia II 71

2135
02:09:18,510 --> 02:09:21,780
is in is in new production in
China. They're just cranking

2136
02:09:21,780 --> 02:09:24,300
those things out they can't sell
them fast enough I've invested

2137
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:24,900
in Nokia

2138
02:09:27,510 --> 02:09:29,100
is the probably not a bad
investment.

2139
02:09:29,130 --> 02:09:35,340
Nokia it they're at about $6.12
Now Nokia is you watch these

2140
02:09:35,340 --> 02:09:39,510
guys. You keep a sharp eye on
what they're doing. They they've

2141
02:09:39,510 --> 02:09:43,020
seen they see the hole in the
marketplace. They see the they

2142
02:09:43,020 --> 02:09:45,540
started off as a rubber boot
company. These guys know their

2143
02:09:45,540 --> 02:09:46,230
markets.

2144
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:48,750
So yeah, they've gone through
one thing after another. They

2145
02:09:48,750 --> 02:09:51,930
went from rubber boots and they
own tires.

2146
02:09:52,590 --> 02:09:55,320
kinds of stuff. Yeah, they know
what they're doing. They

2147
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:58,890
manufacture and they're coming
out with a new line of they're

2148
02:09:58,890 --> 02:10:02,190
coming out with a line of smart
phones, which will be like 150

2149
02:10:02,190 --> 02:10:06,270
bucks or something? Yeah, well,
everyone's doing that. Yeah. But

2150
02:10:06,270 --> 02:10:09,300
I think that the feature phone
reintroducing some of those as

2151
02:10:09,300 --> 02:10:13,440
a, they've already started doing
that as a nostalgia type thing

2152
02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:16,830
that you'd buy Urban Outfitters
you know next year, your vinyl

2153
02:10:16,830 --> 02:10:21,600
record player they're doing that
they'll find a market there. And

2154
02:10:22,290 --> 02:10:24,510
they just have to figure out
that the the QWERTY keyboard

2155
02:10:24,510 --> 02:10:26,310
once they put that back on,
people are going to love them

2156
02:10:26,310 --> 02:10:28,650
again. Anyway,

2157
02:10:29,790 --> 02:10:32,040
we'll come up with it with a
couple of lines, fishing

2158
02:10:32,040 --> 02:10:35,430
lines, some lines, it's a little
more conversational.

2159
02:10:35,790 --> 02:10:39,750
Like, Hey, man, like it's too
much. I'm not into the burden.

2160
02:10:41,460 --> 02:10:42,060
Burden

2161
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:45,600
burden. It has to save the
climate. I think that would be

2162
02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:51,120
better. To have the right words.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, but I'm,

2163
02:10:51,420 --> 02:10:55,800
I'm saving the climate. Okay,
saving the world by doing this.

2164
02:10:55,800 --> 02:10:58,320
And the more you talk about
negatively about it, you just

2165
02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:03,750
passing off more co2, killing
the world. Thanks. So wrap up

2166
02:11:03,750 --> 02:11:09,030
the OTG segment. X producer
Kenneth sent a note about GPS as

2167
02:11:09,030 --> 02:11:15,150
in cars, and remote turn off.
And he sent in a note saying you

2168
02:11:15,150 --> 02:11:19,650
mentioned tracking vehicles and
remotely turning off of cars. I

2169
02:11:19,650 --> 02:11:22,830
want to let you know this is
from the finance company, my

2170
02:11:22,830 --> 02:11:23,520
girlfriend.

2171
02:11:23,790 --> 02:11:25,320
That's what the original note
said.

2172
02:11:26,580 --> 02:11:32,100
Okay, well, well, he says my
girlfriend of 10 years has

2173
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:36,120
worked for a credit union. She
works for credit union and told

2174
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:39,750
me that they finance to someone
with a low credit rating. They

2175
02:11:39,750 --> 02:11:42,690
will install a GPS unit so they
can repo

2176
02:11:42,870 --> 02:11:49,260
it. How about that? Well, I
don't know why. Almost every

2177
02:11:49,260 --> 02:11:51,510
car's got a GPS built into it
somewhere.

2178
02:11:51,750 --> 02:11:54,960
Yeah, but people sometimes
finance old Lexus's and stuff

2179
02:11:55,530 --> 02:11:58,860
maybe the starting is something
else maybe when I was thinking

2180
02:11:58,860 --> 02:12:02,130
maybe to make a payment somebody
such

2181
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:08,700
trains in the battery you can't
find

2182
02:12:20,700 --> 02:12:24,000
I'm going to show my school by
donating to no agenda. Imagine

2183
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:26,700
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

2184
02:12:34,410 --> 02:12:39,540
we do have a few people to thank
for show 10 For three very few

2185
02:12:39,540 --> 02:12:43,140
as a matter of fact. We do it if
you're the father of days,

2186
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Father Father's Day donations
that came in a big one. But

2187
02:12:47,310 --> 02:12:50,130
let's start with the James
Duranty in San Diego California

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02:12:50,130 --> 02:12:56,130
to $113.94 and he does say Happy
Father's Day John and Adam. Also

2189
02:12:56,130 --> 02:12:59,460
a Father's Day to my dad John
and thank you to my mill

2190
02:12:59,460 --> 02:13:06,480
Felicia. For my two great kids
Leah and JD no nice put a put a

2191
02:13:06,540 --> 02:13:11,490
reverend Manning Sharpton jingle
at the end for him. Daniel

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02:13:11,490 --> 02:13:18,330
Kappeler in Phoenix Arizona $100
Anonymous ad oh six lopsided

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02:13:18,330 --> 02:13:23,490
boob Dame firecracker to the
best dad our kids could have

2194
02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:28,830
love you very much. Okay, from
Dame firecracker do anonymous or

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02:13:28,860 --> 02:13:33,510
she's anonymous. Somebody's
anonymous. Glen new car court.

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02:13:33,870 --> 02:13:37,440
Court Chief court Chianti coach
Karachi and I can't pronounce

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02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:38,790
his name. Can you try

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quar Ciani

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02:13:41,849 --> 02:13:45,239
$70 from Cedar Rapids Iowa. So
check sir Rick in Arlington,

2200
02:13:45,239 --> 02:13:50,729
Washington. 6996. Comes in every
month with a check. James

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02:13:50,729 --> 02:13:58,169
mccluer and he's these are the
we got 1234567 total of the call

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02:13:58,169 --> 02:14:02,489
outs for dads a lot of hate in
the world. James McClure is at

2203
02:14:02,489 --> 02:14:05,639
the top of the list. Just want
to shout to my best dad in the

2204
02:14:05,639 --> 02:14:09,539
universe Matt McClure on the
best podcast in universe thanks

2205
02:14:09,539 --> 02:14:16,199
for your courage. Nick group Gru
B E in Oshkosh bogash Wisconsin

2206
02:14:16,199 --> 02:14:20,789
6171 through 6171 donations.
Happy Father's Day, John Adams.

2207
02:14:20,789 --> 02:14:25,379
Thank you. Thanks. Thank you to
my buddy Brad, who got me into

2208
02:14:25,379 --> 02:14:29,429
this show about a year ago. been
listening to every episode since

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02:14:29,429 --> 02:14:33,929
I started. Cheers to everyone in
the no agenda. Family smoke one

2210
02:14:33,929 --> 02:14:39,809
for all the fathers out there.
Okay. Yes. Do that anytime.

2211
02:14:40,169 --> 02:14:44,939
Grant. Just playing grant. Just
say grant to my dad. Ron

2212
02:14:44,969 --> 02:14:48,539
couldn't be more grateful to
you. No agenda really does help

2213
02:14:48,539 --> 02:14:55,859
bring families together. Keep up
the good work. Sorry, Daniel

2214
02:14:55,859 --> 02:15:01,169
Warren in Boise, Idaho, Idaho
6171. Write him John and Anna

2215
02:15:01,169 --> 02:15:05,549
please wish my father Richard A
Happy Father's Day love you dad

2216
02:15:05,549 --> 02:15:09,059
if you have some if you have
some disparate also like some

2217
02:15:09,059 --> 02:15:12,509
relationship karma thank you for
your courage love and light sir

2218
02:15:12,509 --> 02:15:16,619
Daniel P. S when are you doing a
Boise or at least a Pacific

2219
02:15:16,619 --> 02:15:21,959
Northwest meet ever going to do
some in Seattle August Nathan

2220
02:15:21,959 --> 02:15:26,789
Miller foster Parts Unknown
Happy Birthday Happy Father's

2221
02:15:26,789 --> 02:15:29,099
Day to my dad Douglas Harry
Foster. He worked as a

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02:15:29,099 --> 02:15:33,629
businessman for years and on his
own did his best to support us

2223
02:15:33,629 --> 02:15:36,869
now he's a pastor and does his
best to help as many people as

2224
02:15:36,869 --> 02:15:41,969
you can. Life is a long road
dad. Here's to the years ahead.

2225
02:15:43,289 --> 02:15:47,219
Peter J. Boyle Jr. San
Francisco, California. Happy

2226
02:15:47,219 --> 02:15:54,119
Father's Day to his dad. No note
here. Lee Skubick. Six wants

2227
02:15:54,119 --> 02:15:57,959
everyone to four my dad Jimmy,
the man who said if you want it

2228
02:15:57,959 --> 02:16:01,679
to double your money, fold it
and put it in your pocket

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02:16:02,639 --> 02:16:04,079
is a dad isn't for you.

2230
02:16:06,420 --> 02:16:10,500
And last on this list is
Benjamin Norman who says Happy

2231
02:16:10,500 --> 02:16:15,240
Father's Day Sir John from
quarry cam and a dude named Ben.

2232
02:16:15,960 --> 02:16:19,830
And he actually is named Ben
which is unusual. Okay. Onward.

2233
02:16:19,830 --> 02:16:24,180
Jennifer Hedrick and Harvard,
Illinois. 5150. But she has a

2234
02:16:24,180 --> 02:16:28,740
Father's Day call out to Carlos
phocoena. From Jennifer autumn

2235
02:16:28,770 --> 02:16:32,700
and Calvin and a Happy Father's
Day to John and Adam to Thank

2236
02:16:32,700 --> 02:16:41,040
you. Ryan McConnell 5105.
complimenting you on the net

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02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:46,440
neutrality thing. And we harp on
of course. Thank you for that. A

2238
02:16:46,440 --> 02:16:53,730
man that tootle 5069 Happy
Father's Day to my DILF and

2239
02:16:53,760 --> 02:16:58,290
mouth hitter Tyler Stewart.
Thanks for the working. Thanks

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02:16:58,290 --> 02:17:00,960
for working hard so I can stay
at home with our two human

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02:17:00,990 --> 02:17:04,440
resources instead of teaching in
a public school. Oh, yes. Thanks

2242
02:17:04,920 --> 02:17:08,070
to no agenda, we plan to
homeschool thanks to no agenda.

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02:17:08,070 --> 02:17:12,990
We plan to homeschool no PVS or
many other edge who speaks at

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02:17:13,680 --> 02:17:20,370
the PBIS peak. Oh, I'm sorry.
PBIS. Right. Yes. And you have

2245
02:17:20,370 --> 02:17:24,750
to keep on that. Well. Yeah, I
have a bruise on Rodriguez and a

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02:17:24,780 --> 02:17:31,920
Popko Apopka, Florida 5038. says
Love and Light. Thanks for

2247
02:17:31,920 --> 02:17:37,470
keeping me sane. Brian
barrow.com 5038. Thanks for the

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02:17:37,470 --> 02:17:41,820
ongoing world fairs no Father's
Day thing here at anonymous g

2249
02:17:41,820 --> 02:17:44,610
5038. They're still voting by
the way.

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02:17:46,590 --> 02:17:48,840
They must be a few shows behind
it does happen.

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02:17:49,620 --> 02:17:54,750
Daniel Vasquez and Sandy Oregon.
This is the $50 listed we're

2252
02:17:54,750 --> 02:17:59,640
going to right now. Please this
goes to Shawn's knighthood.

2253
02:18:00,060 --> 02:18:02,700
Chris dommage. Tell you the
names and locations Chris

2254
02:18:02,700 --> 02:18:07,710
Lewinsky from Sherwood Park,
Alberta 50, John camp antlers

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02:18:07,710 --> 02:18:15,090
Oklahoma, Nika or Mica. Now I
forget again in Bethel,

2256
02:18:15,090 --> 02:18:22,050
Pennsylvania, mica Daulat Xang,
Goossens Zengo isn't in Bellevue

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02:18:22,050 --> 02:18:26,610
Washington a Joel de Rouen and
Savannah Georgia William

2258
02:18:26,610 --> 02:18:36,060
Cameron. In Parts Unknown it's I
guess its name is is Billy

2259
02:18:36,060 --> 02:18:44,250
Cameron. Oh, I see. Okay.
Patrick little Lonsdale in

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02:18:44,280 --> 02:18:47,490
Murano. Italy. No, well, I know,

2261
02:18:47,670 --> 02:18:52,080
I just landed in Houston for
business representing my keyless

2262
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:55,560
mobile access solution. And one
of my first what first thoughts

2263
02:18:55,560 --> 02:18:57,990
was to donate to the world's
best podcast show I've been

2264
02:18:57,990 --> 02:19:00,870
listening for a while happy to
see you. Still alive as you

2265
02:19:00,870 --> 02:19:05,100
bring things up. Yes, every
morning I wake up I also think

2266
02:19:05,130 --> 02:19:09,780
still alive haha New World
Order. Didn't get me didn't get

2267
02:19:09,780 --> 02:19:10,800
me while I slept New

2268
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:14,880
World Order. And finally, last
but not least is Sir Jerry

2269
02:19:14,910 --> 02:19:18,300
whinging, Roth and Saugus,
California want to thank all

2270
02:19:18,300 --> 02:19:22,200
these folks for contributing and
helping us produce show 1043?

2271
02:19:22,980 --> 02:19:27,840
Yes, and thank you to everyone
who came in under $50 which is

2272
02:19:28,860 --> 02:19:31,740
reasons of anonymity. People are
also on one of our many

2273
02:19:32,550 --> 02:19:35,820
subscription programs. I got a
note here from my producer

2274
02:19:35,820 --> 02:19:40,290
Jason. He says my wife and I
were pre approved to purchase a

2275
02:19:40,290 --> 02:19:43,320
house we picked out pick one out
made an offer it was accepted.

2276
02:19:43,320 --> 02:19:46,530
Everything was fine until we
received our conditional

2277
02:19:46,530 --> 02:19:50,160
approval letter, requesting
clarifications about various

2278
02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:54,210
things in our credit history.
Apparently the item that caught

2279
02:19:54,210 --> 02:19:59,490
his eye was the following one,
JSON and a name to provide an

2280
02:19:59,490 --> 02:20:03,630
exponent Question for multiple
Pay Pal payments shown in Wells

2281
02:20:03,630 --> 02:20:09,690
Fargo checking account. With do
customers have any accounts with

2282
02:20:09,690 --> 02:20:13,110
Pay Pal that have recurring
monthly payments, for example,

2283
02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:18,210
and they highlighted his monthly
$10 payment to the no agenda

2284
02:20:18,210 --> 02:20:23,310
show. And they had the dates
that he that he donated on his

2285
02:20:24,990 --> 02:20:28,560
on his subscription to outside
of the fact that it shows that

2286
02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:31,320
I'm somewhat tight with my
money. No, we appreciate

2287
02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:33,630
anything. That's the value you
got. That's good. We're fine

2288
02:20:33,630 --> 02:20:36,780
with that. What business? Is it
a Wells Fargo that I support the

2289
02:20:36,780 --> 02:20:39,630
best podcast in the universe
with a recurring donation. The

2290
02:20:39,630 --> 02:20:42,270
fact that I'm expected to
explain this to the company that

2291
02:20:42,270 --> 02:20:46,440
had to re establish itself for
exploiting customers is absurd.

2292
02:20:47,130 --> 02:20:51,780
As as an aside, I am sure it has
some BS to do with giving money

2293
02:20:51,780 --> 02:20:55,890
to terrorists now thanks. As a
functional observation, they

2294
02:20:55,890 --> 02:20:58,740
didn't question the monthly
transfer to Microsoft for office

2295
02:20:58,740 --> 02:21:03,210
365 or Glenn Beck's the blaze,
waste of money, I will

2296
02:21:03,210 --> 02:21:06,360
reallocate those funds to you
guys. Both of those went through

2297
02:21:06,360 --> 02:21:10,230
Pay Pal as well. I just thought
that was a fun, fun note. He got

2298
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:14,430
his mortgage put on hold thanks
to the show. Thanks, Wells

2299
02:21:14,430 --> 02:21:15,960
Fargo, but

2300
02:21:16,860 --> 02:21:19,140
they got a big laugh of
mechanics when I was putting a

2301
02:21:19,140 --> 02:21:22,380
deposit together and talking to
him. I said we had a mortgage at

2302
02:21:22,380 --> 02:21:25,500
Wells Fargo. And what I always
like to say when I'm visiting

2303
02:21:25,500 --> 02:21:28,620
the Wells Fargo's office because
they always ask you, well, do

2304
02:21:28,620 --> 02:21:34,560
you have any other accounts? And
I say not that I know of.

2305
02:21:35,550 --> 02:21:43,560
I'm sure they love that. Well,
anyway, again, our value for

2306
02:21:43,560 --> 02:21:46,050
value model is how this system
works. We do need you to

2307
02:21:46,050 --> 02:21:48,990
participate. We had a great
executive producers and

2308
02:21:49,020 --> 02:21:51,180
Associate Executive Producers
today and thank you, of course

2309
02:21:51,180 --> 02:21:54,690
for the seven or eight people
who still love their dad and

2310
02:21:54,690 --> 02:21:57,300
want to show their appreciation
through the show. But we do have

2311
02:21:57,300 --> 02:22:01,350
another one coming up on on
Thursday and we'd appreciate you

2312
02:22:01,350 --> 02:22:06,630
helping out as much as you can
remember us at VO rec.org/and

2313
02:22:06,930 --> 02:22:15,810
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. You've got karma.

2314
02:22:24,180 --> 02:22:26,490
A couple of names on the list
for today. We have no nights and

2315
02:22:26,490 --> 02:22:29,370
no title changes. So you'll have
to do with this for our segment

2316
02:22:29,370 --> 02:22:33,480
Ryan Brady will be 27 on the
28th we congratulate him in

2317
02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:36,240
advance Rachel and Daniel
Vasquez say happy birthday to

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02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:40,020
Sean Mackenzie and Sandy Oregon.
He celebrated on the 10th of

2319
02:22:40,020 --> 02:22:43,080
June and Lisa Stelter says Happy
Birthday to her smokin hot

2320
02:22:43,080 --> 02:22:47,820
husband Paul, His birthday is on
the 25th of June we also say

2321
02:22:47,820 --> 02:22:55,740
happy birthday and Happy
Father's Day. O M G OYGOM. G li

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02:22:55,740 --> 02:22:58,680
G new heading I have in the show
notes.

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02:22:59,190 --> 02:23:04,560
What's OMG? AIG? Yeah OMG it's
easy to do with Gog or Magog s

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02:23:04,590 --> 02:23:11,160
OMG Oh my god. Oh YG Office of
Inspector General. Oh, Mg O G.

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02:23:11,730 --> 02:23:15,750
Yeah. I think we need to talk
about this document which came

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02:23:15,750 --> 02:23:17,190
out on their last show day.

2327
02:23:17,820 --> 02:23:20,970
Okay, let's start. Let me start.
Can I start with a with a

2328
02:23:20,970 --> 02:23:22,080
Schumer clip?

2329
02:23:22,320 --> 02:23:27,210
Sure thing. does it explain what
it is? I we know we must

2330
02:23:27,210 --> 02:23:28,650
remember that. Not everyone
knows.

2331
02:23:29,460 --> 02:23:33,900
The following. Expensive fine.
Trump's a jerk. Okay, that's

2332
02:23:33,900 --> 02:23:38,130
what it amounts. And apparently
the IG report confirmed.

2333
02:23:39,300 --> 02:23:42,960
So we now know the long awaited
report from the inspector

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02:23:42,960 --> 02:23:46,530
general has been made public.
Several things are crystal

2335
02:23:46,530 --> 02:23:51,630
clear. First and foremost,
anyone who was hoping to use

2336
02:23:51,630 --> 02:23:55,050
this report to undermine the
Mueller probe, or prove the

2337
02:23:55,050 --> 02:23:58,890
existence of a deep state
conspiracy against President

2338
02:23:58,890 --> 02:24:03,150
Trump will be sorely
disappointed. Those of us who

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02:24:03,150 --> 02:24:05,700
are interested in the truth,
however, are pleased to know

2340
02:24:06,060 --> 02:24:10,020
that the inspector general wrote
time and time again, that when

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02:24:10,020 --> 02:24:14,280
it came to the Clinton email
investigation, quote, no

2342
02:24:14,310 --> 02:24:19,770
evidence that the no evidence
that the conclusions by

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02:24:20,460 --> 02:24:25,020
department prosecutors were
affected by bias or improper

2344
02:24:25,020 --> 02:24:29,460
consideration, no evidence that
the conclusion by department

2345
02:24:29,460 --> 02:24:33,210
prosecutors were affected by
bias or other improper

2346
02:24:33,210 --> 02:24:38,580
considerations. Rather, we
concluded that they were based

2347
02:24:38,580 --> 02:24:45,360
on the prosecutors assessments
of the facts. The law and past

2348
02:24:45,360 --> 02:24:48,450
department practices plain and
simple couldn't be plainer.

2349
02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:54,720
couldn't be a more strong
repudiation of those who wish to

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02:24:54,720 --> 02:25:00,720
say that there was bias in the
in the EU In the Mueller

2351
02:25:00,720 --> 02:25:05,460
investigation, Did Director
Comey the FBI and DOJ handle the

2352
02:25:05,460 --> 02:25:08,040
public aspects of the
investigation into Hillary

2353
02:25:08,040 --> 02:25:12,360
Clinton's email correctly? Of
course not. We Democrats said

2354
02:25:12,360 --> 02:25:16,020
that then the inspector general
makes it clear now that

2355
02:25:17,070 --> 02:25:20,580
this was such a great move by
the Office of the Inspector

2356
02:25:20,580 --> 02:25:24,510
General. And for those who
haven't followed this Merkin

2357
02:25:24,510 --> 02:25:29,820
news, is it a huge report 546
pages, I think, and it is

2358
02:25:29,820 --> 02:25:37,440
supposed to show what went down
with the email Clinton invested

2359
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:41,460
in the Clinton email
investigation, and then how that

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02:25:41,460 --> 02:25:45,750
then led some of the same people
transitioned into the Russian

2361
02:25:45,750 --> 02:25:49,800
collusion, investigation. But
the Office of the Inspector

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02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:53,670
General is, you know, it has a
job. And it's like, it's like

2363
02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:59,220
the HR department of a company.
So it will always kind of tried

2364
02:25:59,220 --> 02:26:04,350
to protect the integrity of the
corporation of the FBI. And if

2365
02:26:04,350 --> 02:26:09,360
you read this report, and I have
read it, I read all of it. It's

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02:26:09,360 --> 02:26:13,110
useless. What is great at his
show is giving us a lot of

2367
02:26:13,110 --> 02:26:15,630
factoids, but whenever it comes
to, it's really there's two

2368
02:26:15,630 --> 02:26:19,440
things in here. I think that
that show its uselessness. One

2369
02:26:19,440 --> 02:26:24,990
is this, there's no evidence of
this bias. Now, you can argue

2370
02:26:24,990 --> 02:26:28,920
that the text messages are
biased, you know, the text

2371
02:26:28,920 --> 02:26:34,410
message of agent strock saying
to FBI lawyer, Paige who are in

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02:26:34,410 --> 02:26:39,390
a romantic, the FBI lovers that
it may be, don't worry about it,

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02:26:39,390 --> 02:26:41,400
he's not going to become
President, I'll stop, I'll take

2374
02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:43,740
care of it for you, you know, so
I can kind of understand why.

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02:26:43,770 --> 02:26:47,940
And that's not really evidence,
the bias is there. But you know,

2376
02:26:47,940 --> 02:26:50,790
to say that there's evidence now
they didn't have any actual

2377
02:26:50,790 --> 02:26:56,010
evidence that show they were
messing around. Because that's,

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02:26:56,070 --> 02:27:01,620
that's all very subjective. The
second part was, the foreign

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02:27:01,740 --> 02:27:05,820
entities or governments had
obtained classified documents.

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02:27:06,420 --> 02:27:11,970
And it says in the language of
the report, through email, cyber

2381
02:27:11,970 --> 02:27:15,450
or other means, which is really
wishy washy, because what

2382
02:27:15,450 --> 02:27:18,000
they're doing is they're not
saying it came from her server,

2383
02:27:18,030 --> 02:27:20,880
it got hacked, and you know, so
therefore, the real problem,

2384
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:24,690
because she had confidential
documents on her illegal

2385
02:27:24,690 --> 02:27:29,070
independent outside of all
security email server, it could

2386
02:27:29,070 --> 02:27:31,560
have also been through other
means. So it's a bull crap

2387
02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:37,560
report. The thing that really
got me was the incredible

2388
02:27:38,370 --> 02:27:43,830
collusion between FBI agents and
lawyers, and the press, which of

2389
02:27:43,830 --> 02:27:47,280
course, didn't get a lot of play
in the press in the M five M.

2390
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:52,620
But there's sporting events and
lunches and party and all kinds

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02:27:52,620 --> 02:27:56,760
of stuff. And then this, you see
the little diagram in the in the

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02:27:56,760 --> 02:28:00,660
report, where you have one
agent, and there's 20 People

2393
02:28:00,660 --> 02:28:05,040
talking to him, or one reporter
talking to 20 different agents,

2394
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:08,100
and they have directional
diagrams of which way the the

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02:28:08,100 --> 02:28:11,190
information is going. So this
kind of report, you can cherry

2396
02:28:11,190 --> 02:28:14,580
pick on both sides, whatever you
want out of it, and make your

2397
02:28:14,580 --> 02:28:17,190
case. Now, I actually found that
old mica clip that we were

2398
02:28:17,190 --> 02:28:19,320
looking for on the previous
show, I didn't find it someone

2399
02:28:19,320 --> 02:28:19,890
sent it to me,

2400
02:28:20,070 --> 02:28:23,610
is what I hear from all the
Trump's. So this is what the

2401
02:28:23,610 --> 02:28:26,610
media wants you to do as an
obedient slave

2402
02:28:26,670 --> 02:28:30,360
supporters. Oh, yeah, you guys
are going crazy. He's doing what

2403
02:28:30,360 --> 02:28:34,020
are you so surprised about? He's
doing exactly what he said he's

2404
02:28:34,020 --> 02:28:34,770
going to do?

2405
02:28:35,009 --> 02:28:39,779
Well, and I think that the
dangerous, you know, edges here,

2406
02:28:39,779 --> 02:28:42,599
or that he's trying to undermine
the media, trying to make up his

2407
02:28:42,599 --> 02:28:48,239
own facts. And it could be that
while unemployment and the

2408
02:28:48,239 --> 02:28:52,409
economy worsens, he could have
undermined the messaging so much

2409
02:28:52,409 --> 02:28:56,939
that he can actually control
exactly what people think. And

2410
02:28:56,939 --> 02:28:58,649
that is the that is our job.

2411
02:28:59,519 --> 02:29:03,209
That is our job to control what
people think you stupid slave.

2412
02:29:03,449 --> 02:29:07,019
So you listen up. And that's
exactly what's happening. There

2413
02:29:07,019 --> 02:29:11,729
are a couple of other
interesting bits in it. The van

2414
02:29:11,729 --> 02:29:15,959
I was kind of on the fence about
this one at first. In there, it

2415
02:29:15,959 --> 02:29:20,849
is very clear that President
Obama communicated with Hillary

2416
02:29:20,849 --> 02:29:26,909
Clinton by sending email to her
HRC at Clinton e mail.com.

2417
02:29:27,239 --> 02:29:31,949
Address, which was the off site
server. And I actually thought

2418
02:29:31,949 --> 02:29:36,119
to myself, well, you know, it's
not like you're he's the

2419
02:29:36,119 --> 02:29:38,639
president. He's not going to
type in the email address and

2420
02:29:38,639 --> 02:29:42,779
this is Hillary Clinton. Yeah,
we just it just says her name.

2421
02:29:42,779 --> 02:29:45,719
So he just uses that or comes
back you don't always not every

2422
02:29:45,719 --> 02:29:48,929
email program shows the email
address that it comes from.

2423
02:29:49,139 --> 02:29:51,419
Sometimes you have to like an
outlook you have to click

2424
02:29:51,419 --> 02:29:55,079
Details to see so I gave him a
little bit of leeway until I

2425
02:29:55,079 --> 02:30:01,709
heard Dan bond Gino? Like Dan.
He's the Yeah, ex Secret Service

2426
02:30:01,709 --> 02:30:05,369
guy who has his own show on NRA
TV. So you could say you might

2427
02:30:05,399 --> 02:30:09,659
be a little right of center. But
he explained exactly how email

2428
02:30:09,659 --> 02:30:12,209
communication works in the White
House. And then I was like, you

2429
02:30:12,209 --> 02:30:14,009
know, I think Obama is full of
crap.

2430
02:30:14,040 --> 02:30:17,250
The most damning revelation. I
think you just nailed it is the

2431
02:30:17,250 --> 02:30:21,300
Barack Obama receiving emails
from Hillary Clinton's personal,

2432
02:30:21,480 --> 02:30:25,230
not state.gov account, which she
didn't have now, quick thing on

2433
02:30:25,230 --> 02:30:27,780
this, the White House
Communications Agency, Waka

2434
02:30:27,780 --> 02:30:30,510
that's responsible for President
Obama now President Trump's

2435
02:30:30,630 --> 02:30:35,430
communications, how to whitelist
that email address Tucker. In

2436
02:30:35,430 --> 02:30:39,810
other words, somebody had to
tell Waca Hey, put that personal

2437
02:30:39,810 --> 02:30:44,400
email address in Barack Obama's
phone. Who told them? Are you

2438
02:30:44,400 --> 02:30:47,010
still going to stick to this
story? Barack Obama and team

2439
02:30:47,010 --> 02:30:50,640
that you had no idea Hillary had
a personal email account.

2440
02:30:50,730 --> 02:30:53,820
Plausible Deniability here is
gone and out the window. You

2441
02:30:53,820 --> 02:30:56,640
think Barack Obama on his
personal BlackBerry was getting,

2442
02:30:56,730 --> 02:31:00,000
you know, spam emails about a
flower sale for Mother's Day?

2443
02:31:00,570 --> 02:31:03,630
Those emails had to be
whitelisted before they even hit

2444
02:31:03,630 --> 02:31:07,920
the Blackberry, meaning somebody
gave waka that email address and

2445
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:11,370
said, Hey, this Hillary Clinton
personal one, don't worry, this

2446
02:31:11,370 --> 02:31:12,690
one's a okay.

2447
02:31:13,380 --> 02:31:17,700
So I'd say there's some
collusion going on there. Ah.

2448
02:31:18,990 --> 02:31:22,860
Good clip. Yeah. I wasn't aware
of waka. I'd like I liked the

2449
02:31:22,860 --> 02:31:28,950
acronym w h CI, Waka waka waka
waka. Now. So if you feel like

2450
02:31:28,950 --> 02:31:31,590
reading the report thing was in
last in the last episode

2451
02:31:31,590 --> 02:31:35,550
shownotes you can find it. It's
really disheartening. Because

2452
02:31:35,550 --> 02:31:38,220
what you see is that just like
any corporation you've ever

2453
02:31:38,220 --> 02:31:41,970
worked in the United States
government is a shit show from

2454
02:31:41,970 --> 02:31:45,270
beginning to end. It's rotten.
It's like because it's just like

2455
02:31:45,270 --> 02:31:49,140
a company that, you know,
executives are assholes. People

2456
02:31:49,140 --> 02:31:52,050
backstab each other, they
collude. They try to come up

2457
02:31:52,050 --> 02:31:55,110
with schemes, they do all kinds
of things. And it's just it's

2458
02:31:55,110 --> 02:31:58,110
crap. It's an org. And it's
that's what organizations are

2459
02:31:58,110 --> 02:32:00,810
filled with people, people look
out for themselves, and it's

2460
02:32:00,810 --> 02:32:04,890
just shit. And you know, it's
disheartening, but it's not the

2461
02:32:04,890 --> 02:32:07,830
beautiful dream of the great
American government with just as

2462
02:32:07,830 --> 02:32:12,420
Banana Republic as anybody else.
There is some violation, though,

2463
02:32:12,420 --> 02:32:15,990
as Congress has repeatedly asked
for all of the text messages

2464
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:22,530
between the FBI lovers Peter
struck and Lisa page. And one of

2465
02:32:22,530 --> 02:32:26,520
the shocking, shocking shocking
things was that when the

2466
02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:29,580
inspector general report came
out, there were text messages

2467
02:32:29,850 --> 02:32:33,600
that had been requested in the
date of in the timeframe, I

2468
02:32:33,600 --> 02:32:37,860
presume, and date range of the
lovebirds but they never

2469
02:32:37,860 --> 02:32:41,280
received yet the Office of
Inspector General did have these

2470
02:32:41,280 --> 02:32:43,050
text messages from

2471
02:32:43,050 --> 02:32:46,440
the Inspector General's report
shining a new light on text

2472
02:32:46,440 --> 02:32:50,310
between FBI agent Peter struck,
and his girlfriend, FBI lawyer

2473
02:32:50,310 --> 02:32:54,480
Lisa page and an exchange
included in the report page as

2474
02:32:54,480 --> 02:32:57,780
struck quote, Trump's not ever
going to become president.

2475
02:32:57,810 --> 02:33:02,280
Right. Right. Struck responds
No, no, he won't. We'll stop it.

2476
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:05,640
While the Inspector General said
he did not find documentary

2477
02:33:05,640 --> 02:33:09,630
evidence that political bias
affected any decision making. He

2478
02:33:09,630 --> 02:33:12,510
concluded that because of his
views, struck may have

2479
02:33:12,510 --> 02:33:16,680
improperly prioritized the
Russia investigation over the

2480
02:33:16,680 --> 02:33:20,160
Clinton probe during the final
weeks of the campaign bill. One

2481
02:33:20,160 --> 02:33:24,240
other extraordinary fact. Maybe
you can shed some light the the

2482
02:33:24,240 --> 02:33:28,320
second part of that struck
exchange with Paige that

2483
02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:33,150
Congress had asked for that. And
that was left out what was

2484
02:33:33,150 --> 02:33:37,590
provided to the Lisa page part
they got from Ron Ron John's,

2485
02:33:37,590 --> 02:33:40,050
but that did not question

2486
02:33:40,050 --> 02:33:42,780
is whether it was a glitch or
whether it was deliberately

2487
02:33:43,260 --> 02:33:46,410
excluded. Shut up about the
glitch.

2488
02:33:47,700 --> 02:33:51,840
So that's just a little joke for
you. But I am going to tell you

2489
02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:59,010
that what the FBI is produced is
all completely incomplete.

2490
02:33:59,970 --> 02:34:03,330
incomplete information. I've
looked at every text message in

2491
02:34:03,330 --> 02:34:09,330
this report. The end in today's
day and age. This is an it's a

2492
02:34:09,330 --> 02:34:12,270
travesty. I can't believe anyone
is no one's picking up on this.

2493
02:34:12,990 --> 02:34:16,680
In the printed versions in the
report, there's not a single

2494
02:34:16,710 --> 02:34:20,160
emoji in any of these text
messages. And let me tell you

2495
02:34:20,160 --> 02:34:25,260
something. Emojis are very
important part of context and of

2496
02:34:25,260 --> 02:34:29,100
today's communication. And there
should at least be one eggplant

2497
02:34:29,100 --> 02:34:38,340
emoji between these two. So this
is incomplete information. Well,

2498
02:34:40,230 --> 02:34:42,630
I don't know that everybody uses
emojis

2499
02:34:42,630 --> 02:34:47,400
every DS to come on there's no
heart. There's no There's no

2500
02:34:47,430 --> 02:34:49,980
double hearts. There's no
vibrating heart. There's no

2501
02:34:50,730 --> 02:34:53,310
eggplant emoji with raindrops.
Come on.

2502
02:34:54,300 --> 02:34:56,190
Man. It's an interesting thesis.

2503
02:34:57,119 --> 02:35:00,449
It's all the whole thing is bold
even we're not getting Get any

2504
02:35:00,449 --> 02:35:04,799
of the real information. Really
not. It's a nice job. Same

2505
02:35:04,800 --> 02:35:07,920
thing with that Lois Lerner case
that's been going on forever.

2506
02:35:07,920 --> 02:35:12,510
And it's now a known fact that
she was like abusing the powers

2507
02:35:12,510 --> 02:35:16,740
of the IRS is still going, huh?
Yeah, there's still Yeah,

2508
02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:20,460
because there's finally getting
enough my good they should throw

2509
02:35:20,460 --> 02:35:21,840
her in jail that woman.

2510
02:35:22,410 --> 02:35:27,420
Now I believe that there is
still a another OIG OMG report

2511
02:35:27,420 --> 02:35:30,930
forthcoming, and that will be
specifically about the Russia

2512
02:35:30,930 --> 02:35:33,600
investigation, but I expect more
of the same.

2513
02:35:34,890 --> 02:35:38,610
And it's just a time waster. And
it's the time and money wasted

2514
02:35:38,610 --> 02:35:38,700
it

2515
02:35:38,700 --> 02:35:42,960
pollutes the airwaves. Yeah,
well, it really does.

2516
02:35:43,650 --> 02:35:47,610
Just pollutes them. Am Trump

2517
02:35:49,290 --> 02:35:53,850
It rarely happens. Rarely do we
see this kind of conversation,

2518
02:35:54,030 --> 02:35:57,030
although it's being positioned
in a very unique way and it's

2519
02:35:57,030 --> 02:36:00,000
being used exactly the opposite
of how I'd like to see it used.

2520
02:36:00,210 --> 02:36:03,210
We had a shooting in Colorado is
a very scary one. This guy in

2521
02:36:03,210 --> 02:36:07,740
Westminster, Colorado, you know,
he chased people chase them this

2522
02:36:07,740 --> 02:36:11,220
guy's you know, sick, sick,
sick. But listen to the local

2523
02:36:11,220 --> 02:36:11,670
report,

2524
02:36:11,700 --> 02:36:16,230
man is a stranger left a flower
and tears where a 13 year old

2525
02:36:16,230 --> 02:36:20,220
boy was shot and killed. A
child's mother and brother also

2526
02:36:20,220 --> 02:36:24,180
shot. So it was a man sitting in
his truck. The shooting has left

2527
02:36:24,180 --> 02:36:25,410
people here shaken.

2528
02:36:25,440 --> 02:36:30,360
I don't feel safe. You know,
like, I felt safe here my whole

2529
02:36:30,360 --> 02:36:32,550
life and I honestly don't feel
safe anymore.

2530
02:36:32,580 --> 02:36:36,000
23 year old Jeremy Webster was
arrested for several charges

2531
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:39,510
including first degree murder.
Westminster police believe it

2532
02:36:39,510 --> 02:36:43,920
was a case of road rage. Court
records, say Webster tow police,

2533
02:36:43,980 --> 02:36:47,100
he had mental issues, and it
started taking new prescription

2534
02:36:47,100 --> 02:36:47,940
medications.

2535
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:50,970
I don't find that anymore.
That's a cop out so they don't

2536
02:36:50,970 --> 02:36:54,030
end up in prison, you know, so
they don't get a death penalty.

2537
02:36:54,600 --> 02:36:58,620
Or they, you know, you can't use
it as an excuse to take

2538
02:36:58,620 --> 02:36:59,610
someone's life.

2539
02:36:59,730 --> 02:37:03,630
Attorney David Brown says
Webster's claim is not unusual.

2540
02:37:03,660 --> 02:37:03,960
So if

2541
02:37:03,960 --> 02:37:09,210
he was prescribed something that
had a unforeseen result that

2542
02:37:09,210 --> 02:37:13,920
made him psychotic, or detached
from reality, that could be a

2543
02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:15,480
complete defense to

2544
02:37:15,480 --> 02:37:18,450
everything He's charged with
Brown says the jury will have to

2545
02:37:18,450 --> 02:37:22,110
decide if medications and
Websters mental state played a

2546
02:37:22,110 --> 02:37:26,310
role in the shooting. Some say
they may never understand what

2547
02:37:26,310 --> 02:37:30,330
drove a man to shoot for
strangers, including two kids.

2548
02:37:30,600 --> 02:37:33,900
For now. They just want the
family to know that child will

2549
02:37:33,900 --> 02:37:34,980
never be forgotten.

2550
02:37:35,040 --> 02:37:37,800
So this will be a very
interesting case. And it sounds

2551
02:37:37,800 --> 02:37:40,920
like the spin here is already
they let's get one person off

2552
02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:44,010
the street one and one only who
said that? That's just the

2553
02:37:44,010 --> 02:37:49,710
defense to use it to defend from
killing PayPal. Sad, but this

2554
02:37:49,710 --> 02:37:50,910
will be a big case.

2555
02:37:52,380 --> 02:37:55,890
For me. Well, it would
definitely be good for the show.

2556
02:37:57,270 --> 02:37:57,600
Yeah,

2557
02:37:57,630 --> 02:37:59,430
it's not going to change
anything in the world. Is that

2558
02:37:59,430 --> 02:38:01,770
what you're telling me? You're
just gonna knock me down and

2559
02:38:01,770 --> 02:38:07,230
you're telling me I'm swinging
at windmills. Nice try Nice try

2560
02:38:07,230 --> 02:38:08,670
curry. Gotcha.

2561
02:38:10,770 --> 02:38:14,220
Hey, I heard it. I got a offbeat
clip here. Get out of the way.

2562
02:38:14,610 --> 02:38:17,310
This woman actress Bryce
something rather she's in the

2563
02:38:17,310 --> 02:38:23,010
New Jurassic Park film. And so I
don't know how much acting is

2564
02:38:23,010 --> 02:38:25,680
done anymore. They just put
people in situations where they

2565
02:38:25,680 --> 02:38:28,500
just freak out and then they
film it and then they say that's

2566
02:38:28,500 --> 02:38:32,430
acting when it's not acting at
all. So what is the director of

2567
02:38:32,430 --> 02:38:36,660
this movie that New Jurassic
Park film Jurassic World?

2568
02:38:37,050 --> 02:38:39,210
This is Bryce Dallas Howard.

2569
02:38:39,630 --> 02:38:45,180
Yes, Bryce Howard. And so she it
was they make it so that when

2570
02:38:45,210 --> 02:38:47,340
apparently they're in a ball at
some point that falls into the

2571
02:38:47,340 --> 02:38:50,010
water and all the rest of it
they have been screaming and

2572
02:38:50,010 --> 02:38:53,100
then she describes the situation
and how they filmed it they put

2573
02:38:53,100 --> 02:38:55,410
they created a little roller
coaster and then they filmed a

2574
02:38:55,410 --> 02:38:58,140
roller coaster but she's deathly
afraid of roller coasters. He

2575
02:38:58,140 --> 02:39:01,110
goes on and on about this, but
he makes her get in this thing.

2576
02:39:01,230 --> 02:39:04,410
This contraption is a very small
roller coaster and starts

2577
02:39:04,410 --> 02:39:06,810
filming and then she describes
the experience in this clip but

2578
02:39:06,810 --> 02:39:11,130
let me just ask the question
before I play the clip which is

2579
02:39:11,580 --> 02:39:14,310
this isn't just some sort of
Isn't this like against

2580
02:39:14,310 --> 02:39:18,270
California labor laws this
sounds like unbelievable abuse

2581
02:39:18,270 --> 02:39:21,180
and nobody picks up on a Jimmy
found cracks up he thinks it's

2582
02:39:21,180 --> 02:39:24,540
hilarious but just listen to
this horror that this they put

2583
02:39:24,540 --> 02:39:26,730
this woman through just to get a
shot

2584
02:39:29,940 --> 02:39:31,500
I was so afraid

2585
02:39:31,950 --> 02:39:34,920
that Justice Smith actually just
reminded me of this a couple of

2586
02:39:34,920 --> 02:39:39,240
days ago that was each take you
know you kind of normally was

2587
02:39:39,240 --> 02:39:41,640
sense you get sort of more and
more confident with each take

2588
02:39:41,640 --> 02:39:47,250
with each take my panic
increased and substantially and

2589
02:39:47,250 --> 02:39:50,160
by like the fifth or sixth take
you know there's like so much

2590
02:39:50,160 --> 02:39:54,480
fear. And Justice told me and I
remember this now. I was like

2591
02:39:56,010 --> 02:40:04,320
I blacked out. I went I stopped
him. I kind of like came to

2592
02:40:04,350 --> 02:40:06,480
fantastica. Bryce, you're a
genius.

2593
02:40:06,960 --> 02:40:09,690
You are fantastic. We got it. We
got it.

2594
02:40:14,940 --> 02:40:18,210
Man, if Obama was president, he
gave her the Congressional Medal

2595
02:40:18,210 --> 02:40:18,960
of courage.

2596
02:40:21,060 --> 02:40:24,240
I just found this to be
distressing that. I mean, you

2597
02:40:24,240 --> 02:40:27,360
got to Hollywood. It's me to
movement in the hate Trump

2598
02:40:27,360 --> 02:40:30,030
movement, all the stuff going
on. And then you have this is

2599
02:40:30,030 --> 02:40:32,010
not this dog about abuse?

2600
02:40:32,460 --> 02:40:36,750
Well, this is abuse. Yeah, they
that's what that's what they

2601
02:40:36,750 --> 02:40:38,370
sign up for. You're an actor.

2602
02:40:39,300 --> 02:40:41,670
Sign up for getting sexually
abused to I guess if you're

2603
02:40:41,670 --> 02:40:43,230
working for the wines. Yes,
honey.

2604
02:40:43,320 --> 02:40:46,020
This is Ron Howard's kid. She's
pretty protected, I'm sure.

2605
02:40:47,490 --> 02:40:51,990
Well, I did I think they should
rethink. So that's why she's

2606
02:40:51,990 --> 02:40:56,430
such a noticeable redhead. They
should rethink this. Yeah. And I

2607
02:40:56,430 --> 02:41:00,660
think Howard should, you know,
think the whole thing is just a

2608
02:41:00,660 --> 02:41:04,620
bad idea. I mean, I just thought
it was very I thought it was

2609
02:41:04,620 --> 02:41:08,340
abusive. I can see out.

2610
02:41:09,330 --> 02:41:14,250
I'm glad that you're standing up
for for actresses. They need

2611
02:41:14,250 --> 02:41:20,280
more defense. Yeah. Continue.
Now you tweeted this thing out

2612
02:41:20,280 --> 02:41:25,140
about Jeff Bezos, the BS
Meister. Yeah. And the WaPo

2613
02:41:25,170 --> 02:41:28,260
video. Do you want to play
double audible? Yeah. Because I

2614
02:41:28,260 --> 02:41:31,530
figured I clip it if you want to
talk about it. Yeah, sure.

2615
02:41:31,800 --> 02:41:33,090
I think it's hilarious. I did.

2616
02:41:34,140 --> 02:41:36,600
Hear Jeff Bezos dear Jeff Bezos,

2617
02:41:36,630 --> 02:41:40,230
dear Jeff Bezos demographics
reporter I'm a video editor. I

2618
02:41:40,230 --> 02:41:41,070
am a food writer.

2619
02:41:41,100 --> 02:41:42,570
I'm the Global opinions editor.

2620
02:41:42,600 --> 02:41:44,400
I'm an advertising account
manager. I'm

2621
02:41:44,400 --> 02:41:47,430
an embedded earnings editor. I'm
a metro reporter and co chair of

2622
02:41:47,430 --> 02:41:50,190
the guild at the Washington
Post. We're extremely grateful

2623
02:41:50,190 --> 02:41:52,500
that you bought the Washington
Post. We've taken your long

2624
02:41:52,500 --> 02:41:55,560
runway and we've given it our
all in the past year alone, the

2625
02:41:55,560 --> 02:41:58,020
post has doubled the number of
its digital subscriptions and

2626
02:41:58,020 --> 02:42:01,410
increased online traffic by more
than half its advertising team

2627
02:42:01,410 --> 02:42:04,590
has met or exceeded all of its
targets. More than a year ago,

2628
02:42:04,590 --> 02:42:07,140
the guild's bargaining committee
entered into negotiations with

2629
02:42:07,140 --> 02:42:10,650
the post hoping to achieve some
of the benefits for our members

2630
02:42:10,650 --> 02:42:13,110
and share in the success that
we've had for the past year.

2631
02:42:13,290 --> 02:42:16,290
What we found instead is a
profound unwillingness by the

2632
02:42:16,290 --> 02:42:19,140
post top management to meet us
halfway a lot of the issues that

2633
02:42:19,140 --> 02:42:23,850
are important to us. We've won
the right to ask for Pay Review

2634
02:42:23,850 --> 02:42:27,150
based on the possibility of
gender or minority based pay

2635
02:42:27,150 --> 02:42:30,690
disparity. And we've also won
the right to have spouses who

2636
02:42:30,690 --> 02:42:34,020
both work at the post take paid
family leave. But we've been met

2637
02:42:34,020 --> 02:42:37,050
with unyielding resistance on
almost every other issue of

2638
02:42:37,050 --> 02:42:40,020
important to us. And we've only
basically managed to keep the

2639
02:42:40,020 --> 02:42:41,250
worst things from happening.

2640
02:42:42,060 --> 02:42:43,800
I'm fighting for a decent race
because

2641
02:42:43,800 --> 02:42:46,320
I believe everyone who has
contributed to the post success

2642
02:42:46,350 --> 02:42:49,320
deserves a shared it. I'm
fighting for equal pay,

2643
02:42:49,350 --> 02:42:52,920
because regardless of gender or
skin color, we all deserve to be

2644
02:42:52,920 --> 02:42:54,840
paid the same for equal work.

2645
02:42:55,110 --> 02:42:57,330
I'm fighting for better
retirement benefits and a higher

2646
02:42:57,330 --> 02:42:58,740
401k match. Because

2647
02:42:58,740 --> 02:43:01,890
while I love working at the
Washington Post, I would one day

2648
02:43:01,920 --> 02:43:03,060
like to be able to retire

2649
02:43:03,060 --> 02:43:06,450
from it. I'm fighting to retain
some amount of job security

2650
02:43:06,450 --> 02:43:06,810
because

2651
02:43:06,810 --> 02:43:09,840
as I'm investing my time in the
post, I hope that the Washington

2652
02:43:09,840 --> 02:43:11,700
Post is also investing in me.

2653
02:43:11,940 --> 02:43:14,580
I'm fighting for a decent
severance package that won't

2654
02:43:14,580 --> 02:43:16,770
require me to give up my legal
rights.

2655
02:43:17,760 --> 02:43:20,940
Our stories aren't unique Mr.
Bezos, more than 400 of our

2656
02:43:20,940 --> 02:43:23,250
colleagues have signed this
petition. And they're just

2657
02:43:23,250 --> 02:43:24,420
asking you to listen.

2658
02:43:24,900 --> 02:43:26,820
I love working at the Washington
Post.

2659
02:43:27,030 --> 02:43:28,590
I love working with the
Washington Post.

2660
02:43:28,860 --> 02:43:30,960
I love working at the Washington
Post.

2661
02:43:31,080 --> 02:43:33,690
I love working at the Washington
Post. But it's been more than a

2662
02:43:33,690 --> 02:43:36,990
year. We deserve more. And we
deserve better. Whoa, whoa,

2663
02:43:36,990 --> 02:43:41,250
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa,

2664
02:43:41,250 --> 02:43:47,820
whoa whoa,

2665
02:43:48,330 --> 02:43:54,780
oh, I love seeing this play out.
This is great. Like, hey, wait a

2666
02:43:54,780 --> 02:43:59,160
minute. You bought us You said
you give us this long runway.

2667
02:43:59,160 --> 02:44:02,070
And we've been we've really been
working hard. Now. We want more

2668
02:44:02,070 --> 02:44:05,460
money. We want your rich man.
Give us some of your money.

2669
02:44:05,520 --> 02:44:09,960
Pretty much. That's what it is.
Like, Oh, yeah. We want that

2670
02:44:09,960 --> 02:44:13,830
Summit. We want somebody to
internet money, man, Jeff Bezos.

2671
02:44:14,130 --> 02:44:17,040
So they have a guild they have a
union. He's screwed.

2672
02:44:18,540 --> 02:44:21,750
They're gonna know I predict I
predict Australia with this. I

2673
02:44:21,750 --> 02:44:22,170
predict

2674
02:44:22,170 --> 02:44:24,270
a strike he does know how to
deal with unions.

2675
02:44:25,170 --> 02:44:29,010
Maybe you're right. Well, we'll
find out won't we? I hope strike

2676
02:44:29,010 --> 02:44:31,620
strike if he doesn't know how to
deal with unions, I can assure

2677
02:44:31,620 --> 02:44:35,460
you who's going to do the wrong
thing. What would the wrong is

2678
02:44:35,460 --> 02:44:38,940
classic? God I know it I did
gotta be tough with these guys.

2679
02:44:38,940 --> 02:44:42,210
You got to be tough. Nobody is
tough. I'm a tough guy. I think

2680
02:44:42,210 --> 02:44:47,490
he's gonna be Yeah, that's him.
And so he he brought this on

2681
02:44:47,490 --> 02:44:51,960
himself by bragging about how
they're doing so well. He did

2682
02:44:51,960 --> 02:44:54,330
this about, I don't know, four
or five months ago. It comes out

2683
02:44:54,330 --> 02:44:57,090
we're doing great. All these
other newspapers aren't doing as

2684
02:44:57,090 --> 02:45:01,920
well as we archistar stupid and
is brought on himself.

2685
02:45:03,689 --> 02:45:07,679
Yes. Well, we'll see. I got some
notes from a producer who say

2686
02:45:07,679 --> 02:45:12,239
how horrible Washington state
is. Especially Seattle. He says

2687
02:45:12,239 --> 02:45:14,519
the homeless situation there's
crazy.

2688
02:45:15,150 --> 02:45:17,340
Is that true? Has it been to San
Francisco?

2689
02:45:17,640 --> 02:45:20,700
Is that way that's worse than
Seattle? I mean, people are

2690
02:45:20,700 --> 02:45:24,330
saying Seattle is pretty bad,
especially the RVs that are visa

2691
02:45:24,330 --> 02:45:25,380
parked everywhere.

2692
02:45:25,980 --> 02:45:27,930
Now, lightweights

2693
02:45:29,100 --> 02:45:30,390
mean lightweights.

2694
02:45:30,540 --> 02:45:33,870
No, no. San Francisco's got it.
They got our visa got trailers,

2695
02:45:33,870 --> 02:45:36,630
they got cooked people living in
their cars. They got people on

2696
02:45:36,630 --> 02:45:38,850
the streets, they live living in
tents or shooting up. It's

2697
02:45:38,850 --> 02:45:39,510
unbelievable

2698
02:45:39,570 --> 02:45:42,210
is fantastic. What a great place
to be pooping in

2699
02:45:42,210 --> 02:45:44,130
the streets. There's no Seattle
poop map.

2700
02:45:45,060 --> 02:45:47,580
Not yet. But I would say there
is.

2701
02:45:47,760 --> 02:45:50,340
I said there behind him says San
Francisco is ahead of him.

2702
02:45:50,370 --> 02:45:54,330
I would say that there's at
least there's at least seven or

2703
02:45:54,360 --> 02:45:57,540
eight more poop maps that could
easily be made. And I think that

2704
02:45:57,540 --> 02:45:58,740
there's there's a market

2705
02:46:00,600 --> 02:46:03,090
market did a corner on the poop
map market. That's

2706
02:46:03,090 --> 02:46:06,060
right. I'm trying. I'm trying
both. Let's get some VC funding.

2707
02:46:08,550 --> 02:46:12,000
Tim Draper Hey, Tim, Tim, Tim, I
got a great idea. We got a great

2708
02:46:12,000 --> 02:46:12,480
idea.

2709
02:46:12,539 --> 02:46:13,919
Do you have anything else? Are
we good?

2710
02:46:14,400 --> 02:46:17,220
No, I'm pretty good. But I just
want to mention again to note, a

2711
02:46:17,220 --> 02:46:22,800
note from Elliot Lange, who who
discussed the police and ex

2712
02:46:22,800 --> 02:46:26,880
policeman a Chief of Police
Police in our report on on that

2713
02:46:26,880 --> 02:46:31,860
technology says bullcrap which
technology, the one where they

2714
02:46:31,860 --> 02:46:35,670
that shell casings thing, Oh,
okay. Yeah, really, it goes on

2715
02:46:35,670 --> 02:46:39,330
and on. I will read this. You're
gonna post it on the website I'm

2716
02:46:39,330 --> 02:46:41,880
working on which I probably
won't get to, or I'm gonna read

2717
02:46:41,880 --> 02:46:44,430
on the next show. And then we
also have just by coincidence,

2718
02:46:44,670 --> 02:46:48,960
Ryan Thompson, who wrote in for
the last show, who is a guy with

2719
02:46:48,960 --> 02:46:52,710
a two master's degrees is a
teacher he wrote in to discuss

2720
02:46:52,710 --> 02:46:56,790
the Learn cake, you
learn.kqed.org

2721
02:46:56,880 --> 02:47:01,020
Yes, I and I will say that I
have eight or nine different

2722
02:47:01,650 --> 02:47:04,260
notes from producers, which I'm
moving to Thursday. So this

2723
02:47:04,260 --> 02:47:06,330
would be a tease or would you
want to read the whole note?

2724
02:47:06,330 --> 02:47:07,050
It's kind of long.

2725
02:47:07,170 --> 02:47:10,320
I'm just gonna mention that he
just, he's just kind of funny

2726
02:47:10,320 --> 02:47:13,290
the way he puts his language. I
put my knowledge from the my two

2727
02:47:13,290 --> 02:47:15,660
master's degrees to work. But
this site seems to be just

2728
02:47:15,660 --> 02:47:18,960
another drop in the ocean of
sites and curriculum programs

2729
02:47:18,960 --> 02:47:21,270
that are designed to give
students a digital learning

2730
02:47:21,270 --> 02:47:25,980
experience that ends with them
having learned jack shit.

2731
02:47:26,759 --> 02:47:32,579
Yeah. And how many masters does
he have in education who step it

2732
02:47:32,579 --> 02:47:33,239
up, man.

2733
02:47:33,990 --> 02:47:38,220
He goes on. So both of these
would be worth reposting in

2734
02:47:38,220 --> 02:47:41,610
their entirety online. So we'll
I'm putting them aside for that

2735
02:47:41,610 --> 02:47:43,950
purpose. Okay, read from among
the next show.

2736
02:47:44,070 --> 02:47:47,010
And we'll definitely read some
more of the I'm putting it onto

2737
02:47:47,010 --> 02:47:50,910
the head heading of edutainment,
because that's what that's what

2738
02:47:50,910 --> 02:47:53,220
school seems to be in the
business of these days. So

2739
02:47:53,220 --> 02:47:56,820
edutainment and there's always
show notes for those you want to

2740
02:47:56,820 --> 02:48:01,530
take a look at them and a show
notes.com and a plethora of fun

2741
02:48:01,530 --> 02:48:05,190
things which we will be bringing
to the table on Thursday's

2742
02:48:05,190 --> 02:48:08,040
edition of the Best podcast in
the universe your no agenda show

2743
02:48:08,040 --> 02:48:13,200
remember us at divorce
act.org/na for we need that

2744
02:48:13,200 --> 02:48:17,820
value to flow in our network,
the value network with life

2745
02:48:17,820 --> 02:48:22,110
saving tips. I'm coming to you
from downtown Austin, Texas.

2746
02:48:22,380 --> 02:48:26,460
This is the capital of the drone
star states FEMA Region six on

2747
02:48:26,460 --> 02:48:29,790
the governmental maps if you're
looking for it in the five but I

2748
02:48:29,790 --> 02:48:33,270
included on the common law condo
in the morning, everybody. I'm

2749
02:48:33,270 --> 02:48:33,930
Adam curry

2750
02:48:34,140 --> 02:48:37,560
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I wish everybody a Happy

2751
02:48:37,560 --> 02:48:41,040
Father's Day. Have a good Sunday
today. Thank you for listening.

2752
02:48:41,430 --> 02:48:43,320
I'm John C. Dvorak into

2753
02:48:43,350 --> 02:48:52,320
Thursday, as always, audios I
need a calf

2754
02:49:09,450 --> 02:49:13,530
we can but you want or Willie or
would even need to start with

2755
02:49:13,530 --> 02:49:14,850
you. First,

2756
02:49:14,940 --> 02:49:19,140
let's talk about books whenever
performed for a hate group or

2757
02:49:19,140 --> 02:49:23,910
say Steve FAMIS birthday party
crickets, not for ourselves and

2758
02:49:23,910 --> 02:49:28,230
I love the case. Not for the
ISPs say Steve Bannon is

2759
02:49:28,230 --> 02:49:34,260
birthday party crickets which is
not for ourselves. Not for the

2760
02:49:34,260 --> 02:49:34,950
ISP

2761
02:49:34,980 --> 02:49:40,650
really or what do you even need
to 35 million to the ISP need to

2762
02:49:40,680 --> 02:49:44,580
audit crickets just do are
willing for ourselves is

2763
02:49:45,630 --> 02:49:51,930
wow we have a million out. They
should let Russia come back to

2764
02:49:51,930 --> 02:49:52,530
170

2765
02:49:53,400 --> 02:49:58,350
participatory first well ISPs
time and artists on the stand up

2766
02:49:58,350 --> 02:50:05,010
common claim follow wasn't pads
past they asked me to not for

2767
02:50:05,010 --> 02:50:11,340
ourselves working families
birthday party ESPYS for hate

2768
02:50:11,340 --> 02:50:15,420
groups SPS best pic and Deborah
Let's burn artistic endeavor

2769
02:50:15,420 --> 02:50:19,860
under the pop just like some
examples not maximizing rep for

2770
02:50:19,860 --> 02:50:26,010
for a hate group for ourselves
to conduct ourselves for

2771
02:50:26,010 --> 02:50:35,070
ourselves to perform MSPs my
peers crickets before I say see

2772
02:50:38,040 --> 02:50:38,550
good evening

2773
02:50:39,990 --> 02:50:45,510
is this Crown Hall day two we
are watching. That was Attorney

2774
02:50:45,510 --> 02:50:53,550
General Eric Holder ad DS about
some Republicans at home already

2775
02:50:53,550 --> 02:50:57,930
beating the drums of war today
the Pentagon refuted that claim.

2776
02:50:58,080 --> 02:51:02,130
And he said the American people
do not want him to quote

2777
02:51:02,490 --> 02:51:06,450
dwindling either. They do not
want him twiddling his thumbs,

2778
02:51:06,480 --> 02:51:10,710
you can get a gig as a
contortionist, intravenous

2779
02:51:10,710 --> 02:51:16,020
fluids and pills coated with
galet Gillette and we don't

2780
02:51:16,020 --> 02:51:21,180
leave our women or women women
or men in uniform behind it's a

2781
02:51:21,180 --> 02:51:26,280
monument to the uterus of Dick
Cheney, Representative Raul our

2782
02:51:26,850 --> 02:51:32,190
Labrador years of a brute of
abuse. I personally apologize to

2783
02:51:32,190 --> 02:51:37,590
Mr. PVS. Just ask too soon to be
former Congress with Democrats

2784
02:51:37,590 --> 02:51:42,180
or outright Jide CIA's
countering counter tourism,

2785
02:51:42,450 --> 02:51:48,180
Counterterrorism Center Veteran
Affairs Secretary shins since

2786
02:51:48,180 --> 02:51:53,760
getting what do I always mess up
the name? Shinseki. I love my

2787
02:51:53,760 --> 02:51:59,160
critics. I have fun with that.
Like a

2788
02:52:01,650 --> 02:52:05,040
big strong guy super wonderful
women there are hugs and kisses

2789
02:52:05,040 --> 02:52:06,000
Everyone's crying.

2790
02:52:07,230 --> 02:52:11,010
Did she have a facelift? No. He
has this t shirt that I made the

2791
02:52:11,010 --> 02:52:13,740
speculation which is what you
need you need different you need

2792
02:52:13,740 --> 02:52:16,980
like the opposite. I did nothing
wrong there was no collusion any

2793
02:52:16,980 --> 02:52:22,050
collusion I love to have you
always been one of us. When we

2794
02:52:22,050 --> 02:52:25,980
have the last change it'll be
like Prosecco. We're working

2795
02:52:26,100 --> 02:52:29,640
everything they said they will
start coming

2796
02:52:33,060 --> 02:52:36,570
up next on tonight said might
not we have someone here going

2797
02:52:36,570 --> 02:52:39,300
by the name of Kim Jong Trevor
please protect

2798
02:52:43,860 --> 02:52:52,830
me this is a love song for
special friend we primed last

2799
02:52:52,830 --> 02:53:18,270
love free flight zero let's go
over to the west so much I miss

2800
02:53:18,270 --> 02:53:42,120
Dennis Rodman it's so near the
love in such a time gonna be a

2801
02:53:42,120 --> 02:53:46,590
long long time till Dennis
Rodman gets a calm drum down.

2802
02:53:46,830 --> 02:53:53,430
I'm not the man they think I am
outside. Oh, I'm rocking man.

2803
02:53:55,080 --> 02:54:22,740
ragged man burning influence us.
For rac.org/in

2804
02:54:22,800 --> 02:54:27,060
A republics are not democracy