1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,790 He's almost a dead ringer for Bill Gates, 2 00:00:03,090 --> 00:00:07,830 Adam curry, John C. Dvorak on April 8 2018. This is your award 3 00:00:07,830 --> 00:00:11,490 winning give donation media assassination episode 1023. 4 00:00:11,790 --> 00:00:15,240 This is no agenda. Work in 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,110 the Double D for my OTG share with the NA family and 6 00:00:19,110 --> 00:00:21,390 broadcasting live from the capital the drone Star State 7 00:00:21,390 --> 00:00:23,790 downtown Austin chaos in the Caribbean in the morning, 8 00:00:23,790 --> 00:00:25,500 everybody. I'm Adam curry 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,670 and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's pu ke I'm John C. 10 00:00:29,670 --> 00:00:30,120 Dvorak. 11 00:00:31,650 --> 00:00:39,900 Buzzkill. Okay snappy, not bad. You may not have had your tea 12 00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:42,720 yet, but the brain is functioning the B 12 is 13 00:00:43,110 --> 00:00:43,950 disseminating 14 00:00:44,519 --> 00:00:46,649 the B 12. The B to B 12. 15 00:00:46,650 --> 00:00:50,730 To you? Oh, man, late night last night. We had the big Ronald 16 00:00:50,730 --> 00:00:56,940 McDonald House. Vandana ball, the bandana bandanna ball. Yeah. 17 00:00:56,940 --> 00:00:58,860 As 800 and almost 900 people. 18 00:00:59,730 --> 00:01:01,170 This a lot. Yeah, 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,750 I was. Although strange wear bandanas, bandanas, cowboy. 20 00:01:06,750 --> 00:01:12,030 hats, boots. The problem was that it went down to 42 degrees 21 00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:16,500 yesterday in Austin all of a sudden, didn't bang. And we had 22 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:20,910 a big storm hit in Texas. Yeah. And we got the wind and it's a 23 00:01:20,910 --> 00:01:25,080 tent just outside. It's a big outside tent. I was I was 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,920 actually, you know, because the two they had the sides down, but 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,460 there were still two openings, where they had projector with a 26 00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:36,390 screen, you know, back back projection. So the wind was 27 00:01:36,390 --> 00:01:39,180 going home through this entire tent where people are eating 28 00:01:39,180 --> 00:01:42,210 ever like, you know, like the JP Morgan, people are freaking out 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,390 network freaking out. They were freezing. So I find myself 30 00:01:45,390 --> 00:01:49,440 driving the 30 foot truck, you know, in front of the entrance. 31 00:01:49,650 --> 00:01:54,360 Okay, I'll take care of this was it was interesting last night. 32 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:58,770 And lay drove a big rig, while not 33 00:01:58,770 --> 00:02:02,490 an 18 Wheeler, obviously. But I just felt like it's one you need 34 00:02:02,490 --> 00:02:05,700 a license for? I think I can do this. 35 00:02:06,270 --> 00:02:08,430 No problem. They're pretty liberal. They're in Texas when 36 00:02:08,430 --> 00:02:12,480 it comes to this sort of thing. Hold on a second. Oh, what's up? 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,740 Do we want to restart now? We might meet tomorrow. No. 38 00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:23,820 It's the windows Trick question of the day. Yeah. Well, John, 39 00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:28,350 looks like you and me. The Lennon and McCartney of 40 00:02:28,350 --> 00:02:32,310 podcasting are going to be on the list finally. 41 00:02:32,970 --> 00:02:38,610 Okay, good. This meet the Queen. No, that that is the President 42 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:41,760 that is this coming week, but I'm going to the Netherlands 43 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:48,060 tomorrow. Yes, hi. To Hi ho Hi ho to the low lands to meet the 44 00:02:48,060 --> 00:02:49,950 Queen when you see them. You know what you're supposed to say 45 00:02:49,950 --> 00:02:53,520 when you see that? Yeah, I know what I'm supposed to say. diddly 46 00:02:53,520 --> 00:03:00,450 diddly. What is diddly diddly or something? It's not the right 47 00:03:00,450 --> 00:03:04,050 phrase. I was gonna say, Dilly Dilly that's what the phrase is 48 00:03:04,050 --> 00:03:06,510 Dilly Dilly. You have to explain. I don't understand what 49 00:03:06,510 --> 00:03:09,840 Dilly Dilly is part of a Bud Light commercial or a miller 50 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,710 like commercial work so well. I can't remember which light beer 51 00:03:13,710 --> 00:03:19,080 it is. Exactly. And it's just a bun. It's just a stupid series 52 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,380 of commercials. I think it's the bud people because they put out 53 00:03:22,410 --> 00:03:27,720 there the Belgians they put out some funny stuff. So So wha so 54 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:33,090 on the Yeah. And so on the internet done the tweets and 55 00:03:33,090 --> 00:03:37,170 somebody says sends this to me too. And apparently, and this is 56 00:03:37,170 --> 00:03:40,950 bullcrap. That this a bull crap hoax has been floating around 57 00:03:40,950 --> 00:03:44,940 and things you can't say at the Masters tournament. And Dilly 58 00:03:44,940 --> 00:03:48,870 Dilly is one of them. Yeah, in some cases, somebody sends this. 59 00:03:49,050 --> 00:03:54,150 They say, can you believe this? I said, No, I don't I can't 60 00:03:54,150 --> 00:03:57,690 believe it because it's not true. Why would they even it's 61 00:03:57,690 --> 00:03:59,310 ridiculous. Yeah, that 62 00:03:59,310 --> 00:04:02,700 you know, back in the day commercials. commercials used to 63 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:06,270 work better you know, they had virality to them. And I don't 64 00:04:06,270 --> 00:04:08,100 think Dilly Dilly worked very well. 65 00:04:08,549 --> 00:04:11,159 Well, not if you didn't know about it, and precisely was 66 00:04:11,189 --> 00:04:15,449 very, because it's been this commercials. But this bit, I'll 67 00:04:15,449 --> 00:04:18,659 say instead of a commercial this bit, has been in play for at 68 00:04:18,659 --> 00:04:19,739 least nine months. 69 00:04:21,329 --> 00:04:27,359 Now, I've not seen it. The list I'm talking about though, is the 70 00:04:27,389 --> 00:04:30,839 homeland security database of journalists and media 71 00:04:30,869 --> 00:04:34,799 influencers which was uncovered this week on the social nets. 72 00:04:36,299 --> 00:04:40,319 This is what they what was uncovered was a Department of 73 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:43,859 Homeland Security statement of work, which I think in regular 74 00:04:43,859 --> 00:04:50,369 business is like our FAQ on RFI or RFP. 75 00:04:50,940 --> 00:04:53,010 You know, it's rest for proposal. 76 00:04:53,040 --> 00:05:00,360 Yeah, yeah, media monitoring services. And this is this kind 77 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,480 of wait a minute. It's kind of chilling. 78 00:05:04,770 --> 00:05:06,870 We're gonna be monitored. Yes. 79 00:05:08,010 --> 00:05:14,910 One more listen. As long Hey, value for value guys. It has I'm 80 00:05:14,910 --> 00:05:18,450 reading from the actual document the Statement of Work the tasks, 81 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,040 online and social media monitoring. So this database 82 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,160 must have the ability to track global online sources for 83 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,500 coverage relevant to Washington and the six media hubs. The 84 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:35,130 ability to track more than 290,000 global news sources 85 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,220 ability to track online print broadcast, cable radio, trade 86 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:41,100 and industry publications, local sources, national international 87 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:45,390 outlets, traditional news sources and social media, the 88 00:05:45,390 --> 00:05:48,570 ability to track media coverage in over 100 languages including 89 00:05:48,570 --> 00:05:51,600 Arabic, Chinese and Russian ability to create up to 20 90 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,160 searches with each unlimited keywords, unlimited coverage per 91 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,460 search, ability to change the searches of keywords at any 92 00:05:59,460 --> 00:06:02,160 given time ability, create unlimited data tracking a 93 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,580 database of stuff, so you can search it later. So whoever 94 00:06:05,730 --> 00:06:08,760 picks up this contract and wants you to read the whole thing, but 95 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,420 whoever picks up this contract has to do all this stuff. Yes. 96 00:06:13,050 --> 00:06:17,640 Yeah, the FTP Where's Burrell's when we need him? live inside 97 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:23,610 joke there? Yeah. And what were what are we categorized as 98 00:06:24,030 --> 00:06:28,140 media influencers? I think here it is. The media man media 99 00:06:28,140 --> 00:06:31,470 engagement 24/7 access to password protected media 100 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:35,730 influencer database, including journalists, editors, 101 00:06:35,730 --> 00:06:39,630 correspondents, social media influencers, bloggers, et 102 00:06:39,630 --> 00:06:43,050 cetera, which is obviously where we are we and the all important 103 00:06:43,050 --> 00:06:43,410 speakers 104 00:06:43,410 --> 00:06:45,180 that were under etc, are under et 105 00:06:45,180 --> 00:06:45,870 cetera. 106 00:06:49,170 --> 00:06:50,400 Below bloggers, 107 00:06:50,430 --> 00:06:55,170 yeah. Ability to browse the database based on location and 108 00:06:55,170 --> 00:06:59,610 type of influencer ad hoc searches with boolean terms. 109 00:06:59,610 --> 00:07:02,730 That's kind of standard. Let's see for each influencer found, 110 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,600 present contact details and any other information that could be 111 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,050 relevant, including publications as influencer rights for an 112 00:07:10,050 --> 00:07:12,720 overview of the previous coverage published by the media 113 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,320 influencer. I mean, this is kind of a Staci like database that 114 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,430 they're putting together here. 115 00:07:17,490 --> 00:07:24,570 Sounds like it. Yeah. Can be good. No, but you're lucky. 116 00:07:25,110 --> 00:07:26,790 Because you're going oh, T G. 117 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,750 I wanted to save the OTG segment for a minute. 118 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,060 I don't care if you're saving or not. I'm just saying it sounds 119 00:07:33,060 --> 00:07:36,090 to me as though you're you've got your you've jumped ahead of 120 00:07:36,090 --> 00:07:36,720 the game. 121 00:07:37,229 --> 00:07:38,009 Absolutely. 122 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:49,050 With OTG. With OTG. Deal with OTG. Adams OTG. You deal with 123 00:07:49,050 --> 00:07:49,830 OTG? 124 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:52,110 Yes, a take on a popular classic. 125 00:07:53,940 --> 00:07:55,200 G G go, 126 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,220 Adams. Oh, 127 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,290 I am OTG. Baby. That's right. Chris Wilson with Melissa Talon. 128 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:03,180 They're working together now. The Aziz 129 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:07,170 God created a monster. Yes. Great. 130 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,810 It's a troop. Now. I think if you have two people aren't your 131 00:08:09,810 --> 00:08:11,400 true you aren't your troop. 132 00:08:11,850 --> 00:08:15,000 Tre Oh up. Yes. True. Then II. 133 00:08:15,450 --> 00:08:20,400 You're all up? Yes. A troop? Yeah. Yeah. Adams 134 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,300 Oh, T G, 135 00:08:21,330 --> 00:08:25,650 you know me. I'm moving that to the you know, me. OTG. And 136 00:08:25,650 --> 00:08:29,430 you're, you're only semi I have discovered so much in my quest, 137 00:08:29,970 --> 00:08:33,510 which we'll talk about the C Block. And you are in danger to 138 00:08:33,510 --> 00:08:34,200 my friend. 139 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,550 Yeah, if I don't, it'll get out of the window. 140 00:08:40,409 --> 00:08:45,719 More so than you know, actually. Let's see. What can we kick this 141 00:08:45,719 --> 00:08:48,809 show off with besides the fact that we're on a list somewhere? 142 00:08:49,410 --> 00:08:51,600 Well, we're on the list. That's a good thing and a bad thing. 143 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,050 And I've been in a mediocre setting and we're gonna be taken 144 00:08:55,050 --> 00:08:58,530 off the list eventually when they try to. Well, I'm going to 145 00:08:58,530 --> 00:09:01,260 be able to take that contract by the way that contract. Well, 146 00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:03,390 what are they going to pay? I wonder? Maybe I should just bid 147 00:09:03,390 --> 00:09:03,600 it. 148 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:07,380 Yeah, the curry direct consulting group should bid it 149 00:09:07,830 --> 00:09:09,510 sure we can do that work. 150 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:12,390 Yeah, I guess. 151 00:09:13,980 --> 00:09:17,970 I don't go anywhere. Hey, we're already spying on the media. 152 00:09:18,180 --> 00:09:22,290 This is true. Yeah, so just one more step just a little more. We 153 00:09:22,290 --> 00:09:24,660 had to do a little more work a little more writing stuff down. 154 00:09:26,550 --> 00:09:29,310 Let's play a teaser. Here's a teaser for this a classic just 155 00:09:29,310 --> 00:09:32,910 for getting used to being in the Bay Area. This is a teaser, a 156 00:09:32,910 --> 00:09:38,010 teaser for the news. Yeah, great. Great teaser. 157 00:09:38,250 --> 00:09:41,640 Oh, see what happens is I immediately start looking at the 158 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,060 T plots of 159 00:09:45,060 --> 00:09:48,750 our passenger says this guy is smoking crack. She's fed up with 160 00:09:48,750 --> 00:09:52,740 seeing open drug use. We asked Bart What are you doing to stop 161 00:09:52,740 --> 00:09:54,720 it on KPI x five news. 162 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,170 Crack you're smoking crack on the BART trains? 163 00:09:58,530 --> 00:10:04,680 No way. Oh, shoot, man. What did I saw an article? Yes, it was a 164 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:08,430 big conference. In San Fran there's always big conferences. 165 00:10:08,460 --> 00:10:12,120 I was the international gamers conference. There you go. And 166 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:16,080 this I think, let me see what this is from this is from SF 167 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,340 Gate. International gamers in SF for convention, quote, shell 168 00:10:20,340 --> 00:10:27,570 shocked by dangerous city. More than 28,000 international gaming 169 00:10:27,570 --> 00:10:29,730 professionals converge, of course at friends at San 170 00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:33,990 Francisco's Moscone Convention Center where they nerd it 171 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:40,230 around. But everyone, the feedback coming back, was stop 172 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:43,980 hosting this in San Francisco. We hate it here. The city hates 173 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:47,250 us being here. It's aggressive people were being attacked on 174 00:10:47,250 --> 00:10:53,970 the street. Being followed being continuously harassed. It's you 175 00:10:53,970 --> 00:10:56,940 know, people have no idea when they go, Oh, this is gonna be 176 00:10:56,940 --> 00:10:59,430 fun. We're going to San Francisco and they're like, What 177 00:10:59,430 --> 00:11:03,840 is this? Yeah. How's that? How's that area? What is the Moscone 178 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,220 area like well 179 00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:08,100 around lax, just that that bathroom? The Intercontinental 180 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:08,460 is you? 181 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,400 We maybe need to go there and check it out. Like, 182 00:11:12,090 --> 00:11:14,370 I know what they didn't know what they did. They started to 183 00:11:14,370 --> 00:11:18,150 head to the Apple Store. Ah, come on this day. What are they 184 00:11:18,150 --> 00:11:20,370 going to do here in San Francisco and you're just a 185 00:11:20,370 --> 00:11:22,620 nerd. You're gonna go to the first thing you're going to do? 186 00:11:22,770 --> 00:11:25,500 Where's the Apple Store? Let's go to the Apple Store and hang 187 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:27,900 out. Maybe there's, you know, maybe somebody could demo the 188 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:32,310 watch. And so to get to the Apple Store, you've got to go 189 00:11:32,340 --> 00:11:35,400 toward Market Street and then take a left. And now you're 190 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,000 right in it. 191 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:42,960 Oh, we should Poop. Poop needles. 192 00:11:44,250 --> 00:11:48,300 When asked. Yes. I'm sorry. Go on. And I'm just saying this is 193 00:11:48,330 --> 00:11:49,410 gonna be what happens 194 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,190 when asked by fellow fellow Twitter users to elaborate on 195 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:57,120 his game developer conference experience. This particular guy 196 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,940 was interviewed claimed he intervened in mugging. He 197 00:11:59,940 --> 00:12:04,740 experienced racial abuse. Toxic dudes in events had his credit 198 00:12:04,740 --> 00:12:09,780 card skimmed. And Airbnb hosts canceled last minute on heaps of 199 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:14,910 people and scores of devs had their rejected visas and the 200 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:18,720 visa is rejected. And we're hassled by TSA. Welcome to 201 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:24,810 America bitches where you Brown? 202 00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:29,880 Well, I don't know if you can blame San Francisco for the visa 203 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,360 hassle. But okay, no, I might as well just don't you have I have 204 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,360 another San Francisco story. This was there. We had a big 205 00:12:36,390 --> 00:12:39,810 rainstorm over the weekend and came and went and that's nice 206 00:12:39,810 --> 00:12:43,320 and sunny. But that kind of covers we had was I thought this 207 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,680 was kind of wrapped up the coverage. Cuz you know, the way 208 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:48,660 you know a man on the streets what you want to do when you 209 00:12:48,660 --> 00:12:51,660 just ask anybody casually what they think. But let's just start 210 00:12:51,660 --> 00:12:54,870 asking kids stuff. Oh, trying to find panels. 211 00:12:56,250 --> 00:12:59,910 Why are you trying to find panels? We like splashing and 212 00:13:01,350 --> 00:13:03,330 that's a story in San Francisco. This 213 00:13:03,330 --> 00:13:05,610 is San Francisco story puddles, 214 00:13:06,510 --> 00:13:09,720 puddles. Wait, what's your stammering clip because I've got 215 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,660 a stammering clip too. And I and I think that's interesting that 216 00:13:12,660 --> 00:13:13,890 we both have stammers 217 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,360 This is a woman from the New York Times. And other you know, 218 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,640 we've noticed this before that did none of them should be on 219 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,730 the media or on TV or being recorded or anything because 220 00:13:23,730 --> 00:13:27,960 they're terrible. And this is a woman stammering but this is 221 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,580 actually a story about the this is like, we can play it because 222 00:13:32,580 --> 00:13:36,690 she kind of isolated. But this woman presents a very poorly. 223 00:13:36,690 --> 00:13:42,240 But she's one of the women at the Times who dug up or found 224 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,030 that apparently there's a race between the New York Times other 225 00:13:45,030 --> 00:13:49,200 newspapers and the CIA to find all the papers they could find 226 00:13:49,470 --> 00:13:55,500 from abandoned offices that ISIS was occupying to find out how 227 00:13:55,500 --> 00:14:00,090 ISIS was running things. And it turns out that ISIS was a pretty 228 00:14:00,090 --> 00:14:03,630 good bunch of bureaucrats. They got a lot of stuff done. And 229 00:14:03,660 --> 00:14:06,180 this report I thought was just fascinating, because it was 230 00:14:06,180 --> 00:14:08,340 nothing that anyone's wants to talk about 231 00:14:08,370 --> 00:14:12,510 the Islamic State. What ISIS did is soon after taking the city of 232 00:14:12,510 --> 00:14:15,570 Mosul, they announced on the landscape speakers of mosques 233 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,320 that civil servants needed to go back to work. And and and as a 234 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,310 result, basically the entire public servant corps went back 235 00:14:23,310 --> 00:14:26,730 to work. And so they kept on they kept the city going as as 236 00:14:26,730 --> 00:14:29,010 they would have, if they were working for the Iraqi 237 00:14:29,010 --> 00:14:32,430 government. Is this us the know how of the Iraqi government to 238 00:14:32,430 --> 00:14:35,100 build its own state? It built its state on the back of the one 239 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:35,910 that came before 240 00:14:35,970 --> 00:14:38,490 for community from the people you spoke with there. Is there 241 00:14:38,490 --> 00:14:41,070 any concern that after now the city has been leveled and all 242 00:14:41,070 --> 00:14:44,100 the fighting, the seeds of discontent have been sown? Are 243 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:45,810 they concerned that ISIS could come back? 244 00:14:46,770 --> 00:14:50,640 Absolutely. And you are seeing this? You are seeing this? Even 245 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,690 in the very first days of the liberation ISIS cells remain in 246 00:14:54,960 --> 00:15:00,210 in this area you hear of suicide bombings, routinely or or or 247 00:15:00,210 --> 00:15:03,990 people being kidnapped or altercations and, and deadly, 248 00:15:04,380 --> 00:15:08,430 deadly clashes with police. The same, the same grievances that 249 00:15:08,430 --> 00:15:11,820 allowed this group to take hold in the first place are still 250 00:15:11,820 --> 00:15:15,060 very much present. People complain of the corruption of 251 00:15:15,060 --> 00:15:18,210 the Iraqi state of not being given given a fair shake unless 252 00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:20,610 they have they have what's the what's called Worcester or 253 00:15:20,610 --> 00:15:24,960 connections to two people in power. So all of that remains. 254 00:15:25,140 --> 00:15:28,170 And the thing that was actually the most frightening I think, to 255 00:15:28,170 --> 00:15:30,900 read our in these documents, and to see through interviews that I 256 00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:34,410 did with people, is how good ISIS was at governing. We don't 257 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,500 we don't often talk about this. But the streets were cleaner 258 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,670 under under ISIS than under the Iraqi government, the sewers 259 00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:44,580 were less likely to overflow. This is what people told us. And 260 00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:47,880 the fact that the Iraqi state cannot take care of those basic 261 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,290 things, is the kind of thing that that festers, and causes 262 00:15:52,290 --> 00:15:56,130 people to, to to show sympathy for this group. 263 00:15:56,610 --> 00:15:58,560 Rukmini Kalamaki thank you for your time. 264 00:15:58,590 --> 00:16:02,580 Yeah, it's an interesting way because most of these stammers 265 00:16:02,580 --> 00:16:05,760 are other things. A lot of MS is specifically if people are being 266 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,250 interviewed is just to catch up in their brain and to figure out 267 00:16:08,250 --> 00:16:12,780 what they're going to say next. And you know, I do um, you do so 268 00:16:12,810 --> 00:16:15,660 um, you know, there's lots of ways that people there's a lot 269 00:16:15,660 --> 00:16:18,090 of ways you stall but this is an interesting one just by 270 00:16:18,090 --> 00:16:22,890 repeating two words over twice. It's not 271 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,830 It's she does it all the time, and somehow she incorporates up 272 00:16:25,830 --> 00:16:26,610 talking in it. 273 00:16:26,970 --> 00:16:31,350 Well, that's talent is I mean, that's just like, gum. That's 274 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:34,050 not that easy. One of our producers caught a fun little 275 00:16:34,050 --> 00:16:37,080 stammer on which involves, you know, stammering can also 276 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,230 involve lying. And this topic was actually about lying about 277 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:43,800 the president lying. And I just thought that, you know, wow, you 278 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,050 think a New York Times reporter shouldn't be on television. How 279 00:16:46,050 --> 00:16:47,790 about the television host 280 00:16:47,940 --> 00:16:51,300 take on all the falsehoods all the lies? I mean, I've tried to 281 00:16:51,300 --> 00:16:53,940 do some real time fact checking. So first time I've heard that 282 00:16:53,940 --> 00:16:58,290 but the conspiracy theory about voter fraud, which didn't even 283 00:16:58,290 --> 00:17:02,610 hold enough water I think that was an original explanation for 284 00:17:02,610 --> 00:17:06,360 losing the popular vote re upping the rapist in Mexico take 285 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:10,530 on some of just the whys. 286 00:17:11,130 --> 00:17:12,000 Wow 287 00:17:16,140 --> 00:17:18,630 this is a stutter that's different than a stammer 288 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,080 that. Why 289 00:17:22,109 --> 00:17:27,419 no dynamize that's a that's a beauty. 290 00:17:27,450 --> 00:17:30,990 That's a gym. Now of course, this is a typical no agenda 291 00:17:30,990 --> 00:17:34,080 thing. We kind of ignore what they're talking about. Just 292 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,900 ridicule the person. Yes. Which is like going after the 293 00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:39,780 messenger. I just wanted to go back to that ISIS thing I found 294 00:17:39,780 --> 00:17:44,010 it fascinating that people thought these guys you know why 295 00:17:44,010 --> 00:17:47,280 the streets were cleaned in the sewers ran perfect because if 296 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,970 you didn't do your job, he shoots you. Chopped delight. You 297 00:17:50,970 --> 00:17:54,720 get a lot done that way. Yeah. Mm hmm. 298 00:17:54,750 --> 00:18:05,670 We are here hashtag America near our hashtag target soon. ISIS we 299 00:18:05,670 --> 00:18:10,350 will follow them to the gate. ISIS 300 00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:19,080 Yeah, we're ready for him. Texas is ready. Yeah, bring them bring 301 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:24,630 them on. Bring them on. We say we got a couple of some good NPR 302 00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:30,300 clips. Actually, following up on the UN a very under reported 303 00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:34,710 topic is the Juan brothers. This is the Pakistanis who were 304 00:18:34,740 --> 00:18:38,340 running the IT department for the Democrats had access to over 305 00:18:38,340 --> 00:18:42,480 40 computers, servers, email everything that 306 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,940 and download a terabytes? Yes. 307 00:18:44,970 --> 00:18:48,630 And, and they were hired by Debbie Wasserman Schultz who was 308 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:52,890 very pissed off at the Capitol Police that they had confiscated 309 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:56,640 a laptop which they actually had left in a phone booth. It was 310 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,420 her laptop that left it in a phone booth by accident or by 311 00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:05,100 accident who knows? Yeah, she was pissed off that she couldn't 312 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:07,890 get her laptop back and you know the now that turns out there's 313 00:19:07,890 --> 00:19:11,580 no background checks. And for some odd reason, the money honey 314 00:19:11,580 --> 00:19:15,090 is all over this story. It's Fox Business News, which has anyone 315 00:19:15,090 --> 00:19:19,050 watched that? I mean, it's not it's on the way for me on the 316 00:19:19,050 --> 00:19:20,580 way to MSNBC 317 00:19:20,580 --> 00:19:23,580 on the way it's one channel to the other. It's on 318 00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:28,980 the way from one America news or whatever to MSNBC. So I usually 319 00:19:28,980 --> 00:19:34,050 I stop. If she's on I'll stop. Here's her follow up reporting 320 00:19:34,050 --> 00:19:34,680 on this. You 321 00:19:34,679 --> 00:19:37,919 say background checks are typically the recommended for 322 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:41,099 this position. What Why did they push back on the background 323 00:19:41,099 --> 00:19:44,999 checks and decide not to have any of these IT workers take 324 00:19:44,999 --> 00:19:45,719 background use 325 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,400 background checks. The House 326 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,340 policy actually says that background checks are required. 327 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,520 But if you delve into the fine print, there's technically a 328 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,600 loophole that these members may have been able to invoke that 329 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,510 essentially allowed another member just to vouch for them so 330 00:20:00,510 --> 00:20:03,780 as as casual as that, before you turn over the passwords that 331 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:06,570 give these guys access to all the emails of these members of 332 00:20:06,570 --> 00:20:09,540 Congress and every file on their hard drives and all their 333 00:20:09,540 --> 00:20:12,780 staffers hard drives, they just kind of asked casually ask a 334 00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:17,190 friend ask a fellow member of Congress and fill out this form. 335 00:20:17,220 --> 00:20:20,610 And it turns out that all 44 members who employed in round 336 00:20:20,610 --> 00:20:24,060 one, they never ran a background check. And if they would have 337 00:20:24,060 --> 00:20:26,370 run this background check, it would have found out not only 338 00:20:26,370 --> 00:20:30,300 multiple criminal convictions, but $1 million bankruptcy, a 339 00:20:30,300 --> 00:20:34,560 dozen lawsuits, a lot of them about fraud, a dozen LLCs that 340 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,810 they had with cryptic names like New Dawn 2001 and CIA, it would 341 00:20:39,810 --> 00:20:43,410 have found a whole host of major red flags and the Democrats 342 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:45,690 didn't do any of those checks. As a result, they gave these 343 00:20:45,690 --> 00:20:48,780 guys access to everything. And the IG determined that they were 344 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:51,960 funneling data off the House network, and this is ways 345 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:56,370 I love that. Yeah. Well, heaven forbid we discussed this story. 346 00:20:56,370 --> 00:20:57,960 No, this would be no good. 347 00:20:59,820 --> 00:21:02,730 Yeah, particularly with just everything that's going on with 348 00:21:02,730 --> 00:21:08,310 cyber and you know, is this truly being suppressed? Maybe? I 349 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:11,130 mean, why else? It just got to be some notice out there that 350 00:21:11,130 --> 00:21:14,550 says, Alright, everybody ixnay on the Debbie Wasserman Schultz 351 00:21:14,550 --> 00:21:20,190 che story A it's got to be something out there. Why else 352 00:21:20,190 --> 00:21:23,070 would no one report on this except for Maria, who I guess 353 00:21:23,070 --> 00:21:24,300 can write her own ticket flux 354 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:24,810 business? 355 00:21:25,890 --> 00:21:28,530 Is because no one cares. That's why she can't Hey, are you on 356 00:21:28,530 --> 00:21:32,760 that channel? Report? All you want Maria, go for it. And she 357 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:42,810 is flanked now nowadays by Jason Chafetz. Former Republican 358 00:21:42,810 --> 00:21:48,420 congressman. Yes. And yeah, Congress, Congressman. Yeah. It 359 00:21:48,420 --> 00:21:51,990 was actually not that bad. I kind of like him as a as a host. 360 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:55,170 I see him he's filling in here and there. He's not always a 361 00:21:55,170 --> 00:21:58,110 good talker. He is a good boy. If he I think he did the 362 00:21:58,110 --> 00:22:01,050 Ingraham show once I didn't like that at all, you know, because 363 00:22:01,050 --> 00:22:04,830 he, here's the problem. He's a very functional host. He has the 364 00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:09,870 personality of, you know, a dishrag. It's just, you look at 365 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:14,130 him, I'm just talking purely from television. Executive 366 00:22:14,220 --> 00:22:15,360 executive mode. Yeah, 367 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,480 we should we need a jingle or somebody goes. Entering 368 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,290 executive. 369 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,630 Now entering executive mode for when we talk about how hot 370 00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:26,280 chicks are on TV. Is that what you mean? 371 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,140 Yeah, because we don't really normally talk that way. Except 372 00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:34,410 when we're in executive mode. And what we're doing in reality 373 00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:38,520 is ridiculing the people that talk that way. Yes. 374 00:22:39,389 --> 00:22:43,049 And at the same time, being very frightening and showing how good 375 00:22:43,049 --> 00:22:43,769 we are at it. 376 00:22:45,060 --> 00:22:47,670 We couldn't be where we are executives of our own show. 377 00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:52,380 This is true. So here is a follow on question. This is 378 00:22:52,380 --> 00:22:56,610 about how it really came down. Or it went down what happened 379 00:22:56,610 --> 00:23:00,600 first than the inventory of lost items with che i cut most of 380 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,710 shaved heads out? Well, there's 381 00:23:01,710 --> 00:23:03,720 a couple of different things going on. I mean, there's a 382 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,830 hundreds of hundreds of 1000s of dollars of equipment suspected 383 00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:10,830 had been stolen. And that's basically what the IG started 384 00:23:10,830 --> 00:23:13,530 investigating. And then it found that data was coming off the 385 00:23:13,530 --> 00:23:17,460 network too. And we don't know exactly what that data was, we 386 00:23:17,460 --> 00:23:20,730 know that it had quote sensitive file names, according to the IG. 387 00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:23,400 And the reason we don't know more is because the house 388 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,020 actually blocked investigators from from looking at some of 389 00:23:28,020 --> 00:23:30,330 this stuff. So this is a cover up, Jason. I mean, this is 390 00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:33,360 coming in part from the House House leadership, including on 391 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:36,960 the Republican side. And that's it for my experience, that's 392 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,170 code for classified if they were able to tie up right into 393 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,020 classified information. They're going to put a big stiff arm to 394 00:23:43,020 --> 00:23:46,890 that and say no, you can't look at it anymore. But the inventory 395 00:23:46,890 --> 00:23:51,210 of here and what was stolen and accessed in what vulnerabilities 396 00:23:51,210 --> 00:23:53,880 that creates. That is a huge mess. 397 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:04,140 Okay, we needed this jingle It's classified. So let's wrap this 398 00:24:04,140 --> 00:24:09,930 up with again. Chafetz I think is still in the hosting desk. 399 00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:12,450 final conclusion show 400 00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:14,820 did they give him Is it on Fox Business? 401 00:24:14,850 --> 00:24:19,860 He? Yes. Well, no, I don't think he has a show. I think he just 402 00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:23,790 fills in and he was sitting in with Maria or I didn't see the 403 00:24:23,790 --> 00:24:24,060 whole I 404 00:24:24,060 --> 00:24:26,700 see. Okay, he's there. He they're testing. 405 00:24:27,630 --> 00:24:30,870 They're testing him out. He's That's right. He's in the farm 406 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:31,830 team and Fox 407 00:24:31,860 --> 00:24:34,410 is on the phone. They gotta give him a dig bring him up for a 408 00:24:34,410 --> 00:24:35,880 couple of shows that put him back to the 409 00:24:35,910 --> 00:24:38,490 Yeah, the it's harmless. Nothing's gonna happen. They're 410 00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:41,580 on Fox Business. He can't mess it up. The only reason people 411 00:24:41,580 --> 00:24:45,780 are watching Maria show is Maria which is why we put her here 412 00:24:45,780 --> 00:24:46,140 right. 413 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,530 Yes, right. Come on. 414 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:51,270 All right, wrapping it. Yeah. And 415 00:24:51,270 --> 00:24:53,100 it's turning out that they were running the House of 416 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:56,340 Representatives IT policy like it was some rinky dink mom and 417 00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:58,740 pop business there was basically no pretend is 418 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:06,330 demo Hold on a second. From rinky dink, where does that come 419 00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:06,840 from 420 00:25:07,409 --> 00:25:12,149 rinky dink. That's got to go back to the 30s. Or it's got an 421 00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:15,629 award goes back to. I'll tell you what, you can play that clip 422 00:25:15,629 --> 00:25:18,299 and I will have an answer if I can find it. Yeah. And 423 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:20,130 it's turning out that they were running the House of 424 00:25:20,130 --> 00:25:23,340 Representatives IT policy like it was some rinky dink mom and 425 00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:26,130 pop business, there was basically no protections. And 426 00:25:26,130 --> 00:25:29,040 the fact that the Democrats were even able to invoke this 427 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,370 loophole is bad enough, but the idea that 44 of them would have 428 00:25:32,370 --> 00:25:35,910 independently decided to, to not run background checks on these 429 00:25:35,910 --> 00:25:39,420 guys who were Pakistani citizens. Something's going on 430 00:25:39,420 --> 00:25:41,400 here. And it seems like the members were looking the other 431 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,340 way at these guys for long before. Wasserman Schultz kept 432 00:25:44,340 --> 00:25:46,500 them on the payroll, even though the cops banned him from the 433 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:49,650 network. And even before she threatened the Capitol police 434 00:25:49,650 --> 00:25:53,280 officer because after Imran took her laptop and left it in the 435 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,150 phonebook, in a phone booth. So the question is, why are the 436 00:25:57,150 --> 00:25:59,940 members ignoring this? I mean, this is the biggest story that 437 00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:03,000 you never hear about. It's a hack on the Congress by 438 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,600 foreigners. And the Democrats didn't care about it. They 439 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,330 didn't stop it. These are the same people who are talking 440 00:26:09,330 --> 00:26:12,540 constantly about cyber breaches in Russia. And if you care about 441 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:15,000 one, you gotta care about the other. So why haven't they 442 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,980 addressed it? I mean, there's a couple different reasons. It 443 00:26:16,980 --> 00:26:19,650 could be as simple as this is deeply, deeply embarrassing to 444 00:26:19,650 --> 00:26:23,430 them. The second one is that it basically destroys that Russian 445 00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:26,670 narrative just because it shows that they didn't actually care 446 00:26:26,670 --> 00:26:29,760 about cybersecurity, and they haven't responded to this. And 447 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:35,580 then thirdly, it could just be a question of, do these guys have 448 00:26:35,580 --> 00:26:37,740 something on members of Congress? I mean, these guys if 449 00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:40,050 you look into their background and the lawsuits they've been 450 00:26:40,050 --> 00:26:42,510 accused of, I've talked to a lot of people that know them. 451 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,300 They've done extortion like behavior in the past, obviously, 452 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:47,610 they could read Debbie Wasserman Schultz his emails around the 453 00:26:47,610 --> 00:26:50,820 time that DNC hack they could read the emails of 44 other 454 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:53,520 members our members concern are they being blackmailed? Are 455 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,680 members concerned that if they speak out about this hack, if 456 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,680 they testify against these guys, and they lock them up? That 457 00:26:58,710 --> 00:27:00,060 these guys have something on 458 00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:04,380 him? I like that theory. And like the I like that there might 459 00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:09,990 have something on from the Alright, rinky dink phrase from 460 00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:11,280 the shammies shoddy 461 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:16,230 but it or amateurish rinky dink, but it's alright it says all I 462 00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:20,610 get so far I'm gonna have to now do some work is origins in the 463 00:27:20,610 --> 00:27:25,350 1800s Unknown Oh, that's no good. So it came up somebody 464 00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:30,240 used it's probably one of those nickeled novelists or somebody 465 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:36,000 at that level or newspaper guy who in the 1800s invented it and 466 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,670 it got caught up everyone thought it was sounded good. I 467 00:27:38,670 --> 00:27:42,870 don't know. But we have to now now we have to find out and we 468 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:43,350 will 469 00:27:43,530 --> 00:27:48,960 Yes. Well, I think this story is just interesting beyond I mean, 470 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,010 really beyond what happened is why is it not a story that's 471 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,570 that's very baffling. 472 00:27:56,670 --> 00:28:00,570 It'll have to rise to the level of quote unquote story. 473 00:28:01,110 --> 00:28:04,200 Eventually there's no way because the thing is they won't 474 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:12,300 catch these guys. It just it's gonna fester it will pop good 475 00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:13,290 image there but this 476 00:28:14,190 --> 00:28:17,490 I don't know I'm not sure I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure I 477 00:28:17,490 --> 00:28:17,730 put 478 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:22,110 money on it. I believe maybe Yeah, I mean, it's possible that 479 00:28:22,110 --> 00:28:27,030 they that this that the mainstream media is so corrupted 480 00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:31,950 by just Democrat protectionist thinking that maybe they'll 481 00:28:31,950 --> 00:28:34,230 never bring it up but I just can't believe that there's not 482 00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:39,030 somebody out to each and to do this story will trip to Pakistan 483 00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:42,750 that's right there you go 484 00:28:42,780 --> 00:28:44,970 interview the guy interview 485 00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:47,940 now you're thinking oh yeah we 486 00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:52,860 yeah oh no, we screwed the Democrats. It gets these guys on 487 00:28:52,860 --> 00:28:54,360 tape big fantastic 488 00:28:57,060 --> 00:29:00,180 your lip Joe friends are thinking that way right now. How 489 00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:04,230 do I get a free trip to Pakistan? No, let me think let 490 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:07,080 me think Oh yes, I know perfect. 491 00:29:08,220 --> 00:29:15,900 Yeah, I live Joe friends Yep. All right. What do we got? Well, 492 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:20,460 I have I show this because I'm gonna use it in the future. I 493 00:29:20,460 --> 00:29:22,350 almost bought one clip from you 494 00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:26,790 okay, what is the oh I almost bought one 495 00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:28,650 that's all it is. 496 00:29:30,060 --> 00:29:34,080 That's not good. That's good. Didn't even cut it right. Now 497 00:29:34,110 --> 00:29:35,190 will you cut it off 498 00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:36,000 or something? No, I 499 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,300 did not hear it as your clip you know I almost bought one you 500 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:42,240 know I almost bought one and I say but you need to cut that 501 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,110 off. I didn't hear the blow you know I almost bought one good 502 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:54,780 Oh bad I do you write well epic fail epic. 503 00:29:54,810 --> 00:29:58,230 It's epic. When you're changing a topic and you throw in an ISO 504 00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:59,970 when it's no good. That's some fail. 505 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,510 Alright, let's do another lumens low I a lot of loan clips here 506 00:30:06,510 --> 00:30:07,440 that really don't test. 507 00:30:07,709 --> 00:30:09,779 Once you get into a story entertain me. 508 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,060 Okay, so the Russian oligarchs, there's a new Russian sanctions 509 00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:19,920 deal. And they've decided that dude went back to the old 510 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,110 fashioned way even though nobody mentioned this was to happen to 511 00:30:22,110 --> 00:30:25,440 remember when Obama first sanction Russia. It wasn't 512 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,370 Russia, it was these guys, a couple of dudes. Some dudes, 513 00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:31,830 they said, you guys, yeah, we're freezing your accounts. If we 514 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:34,650 ever see a we see $1 From you, where you can't spend it 515 00:30:34,650 --> 00:30:37,260 anywhere. We're gonna lock you out. Right. And so then they 516 00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:40,530 went to different, you know, say sectors and they started 517 00:30:40,530 --> 00:30:42,960 sanctioning this and that, well, they've gone back to the 518 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,940 original idea. And everybody, although networks were playing 519 00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:52,410 it very poorly. Andrea Mitchell had a report going on it. And 520 00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:55,500 this guy's associated with Robert Belliard, Robert Manna 521 00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:57,990 for and Trump, Paul 522 00:30:58,110 --> 00:31:00,930 Paul Manafort, Paul Manafort. But I'd like Robert, Bob 523 00:31:00,930 --> 00:31:03,300 Roberts, good Bob, Bob, man of button bottom. 524 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,870 So all these guys anyway, there's all these reports and 525 00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:10,380 all the networks really stunk. When you compare them to what 526 00:31:10,380 --> 00:31:14,400 PBS did, they dug up some guy who's kind of a minor expertise 527 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,750 in the UK. And he actually explained this quite nicely, I 528 00:31:18,750 --> 00:31:21,240 thought, and he kind of nails it. This is the Russian 529 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,600 oligarchs targeted and he's got some background each of the 530 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,470 guys. Then he has a conclusion. And then he makes some other 531 00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:30,960 commentary. And I just thought it was really interesting, 532 00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:34,020 we turn to special correspondent Ryan shellcode. Reporting 533 00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:37,110 tonight from London, Ryan, thanks for joining us. What 534 00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:41,160 makes these sanctions different from the sanctions that are 535 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,660 already in place? Well, these 536 00:31:42,659 --> 00:31:47,669 sanctions are very hard hitting. And in contrast to the sanctions 537 00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:52,499 we've seen before. These go after some Russian billionaires, 538 00:31:52,679 --> 00:31:56,669 specifically and exclusively for their ties, or at least they 539 00:31:56,669 --> 00:32:00,989 appear to exclusively for their ties to President Vladimir 540 00:32:00,989 --> 00:32:05,159 Putin. So in the past, the Trump administration, the Obama 541 00:32:05,159 --> 00:32:08,909 administration has sought to have a link between a specific 542 00:32:08,909 --> 00:32:11,549 event whether it's the annexation of Crimea, whether it 543 00:32:11,549 --> 00:32:14,759 was fighting in the East eastern Ukraine, and the individual they 544 00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:18,119 were sanctioning, but in this case, its proximity to the 545 00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:23,039 Kremlin. Another change is that very early on, we saw what they 546 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:27,689 called sectoral sanctions, sectors of the Russian economy 547 00:32:27,689 --> 00:32:31,859 were sort of sanctioned to try and put pressure on those 548 00:32:31,859 --> 00:32:35,759 sectors. The oil industry, in this case, very targeted going 549 00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:39,269 after people that at least in Washington, DC they think are 550 00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:41,069 close to President Putin. 551 00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:43,770 Some of these people are close to President Putin. Tell us 552 00:32:43,770 --> 00:32:47,130 about them. What are some of the names who had to jump off the 553 00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:47,910 list at you? 554 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,140 Well, Oleg Deripaska is definitely top of the list, the 555 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:54,510 most interesting of the individuals that has been 556 00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:57,960 sanctioned, he's worth about $7 billion. He has global business 557 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,230 interests. He's well known in the United States as having a 558 00:33:01,230 --> 00:33:06,870 business relationship with Paul Manafort. Many people in the US 559 00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:09,960 suspect that he may have acted as some kind of intermediary 560 00:33:10,170 --> 00:33:14,910 between the Trump administration and the Kremlin, he has denied 561 00:33:14,910 --> 00:33:18,630 that. So he's definitely interesting, big time 562 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:23,250 businessman, Viktor Vekselberg another worth about 16 billion 563 00:33:23,340 --> 00:33:27,510 former oil men also in the metals, industry, interesting 564 00:33:27,510 --> 00:33:31,890 choice, because in some ways, he's been behind the drive more 565 00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:34,890 recently to diversify the Russian economy away from oil 566 00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:37,980 and gas. He's a huge fan of the United States. He's a big 567 00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:43,260 investor in Silicon Valley. And he's been trying to kind of help 568 00:33:43,650 --> 00:33:48,720 Russia with his money. Turn the corner from being a petro dollar 569 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,270 state, if you will. So interesting that he has been 570 00:33:51,270 --> 00:33:51,930 targeted, 571 00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:57,750 any collusion. So I think this guy the second guy they named, 572 00:33:57,930 --> 00:33:59,760 yeah, this is, this is 573 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,940 I think, I think Silicon Valley connection. Interesting. 574 00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:06,270 Yeah. And he's got all these billions. He's one of these 575 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,690 angel investor and he's one of these guys who gets involved in 576 00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:13,560 certain deals. And now that money's dried up. So this is I 577 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,920 think, this is another Trump, a Trump metric and California 578 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,310 Smash. 579 00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:20,310 Good catch. Yeah. 580 00:34:21,659 --> 00:34:24,479 Let's see who can ask who said let's add this guy to the list, 581 00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:28,169 even though he's like the said, the guy says he's a pro 582 00:34:28,169 --> 00:34:32,219 American. He wants to turn the Russian economy around away from 583 00:34:32,219 --> 00:34:35,729 the petro dollars, which is what you would think would be a good 584 00:34:35,729 --> 00:34:38,519 idea because you know, we're trying to beat him on oil and 585 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:41,249 gas. Yes. So you maybe want to get him involved with some other 586 00:34:41,249 --> 00:34:44,969 stuff. But no, no has stopped that. And because of this guy's 587 00:34:44,969 --> 00:34:47,609 connection to Silicon Valley, I'm absolutely convinced of it. 588 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,809 I found other networks even mentioned that guy. 589 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,650 And I wonder what he's invested in. What's his name again? 590 00:34:55,980 --> 00:34:59,580 Got some convoluted name. I can't I couldn't pronounce maybe 591 00:34:59,580 --> 00:34:59,670 the 592 00:34:59,670 --> 00:35:02,130 troll Boom can look that up, I'll bet you he's invested in 593 00:35:02,130 --> 00:35:04,680 face bag or something like that's probably a face bag for 594 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,180 sure everyone's in face bag. 595 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:10,140 So let's listen to the second clip, which is he's got a little 596 00:35:10,350 --> 00:35:12,030 wrap here. That's kind of interesting, 597 00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:15,660 how likely are these sanctions to succeed to actually change 598 00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:16,680 Putin's behavior? 599 00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:19,440 I don't think they're very likely to succeed in changing 600 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,350 Vladimir Putin's behavior at all. There was a very 601 00:35:22,350 --> 00:35:25,440 interesting comment from the Russian president's spokesman 602 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080 the other day where he said, all of our sanctions, what all of 603 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,520 our sanctions, we don't have oligarchs in Russia. You know, 604 00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:36,330 in one sense, that sounds laughable that he's making light 605 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,660 of this. But in fact, there is some truth in what he's saying. 606 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,960 There are no real oligarchs in Russia in the sense that there 607 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,760 are people that can exercise power or influence on Vladimir 608 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,690 Putin, Russian billionaires, or Russian oligarchs, if you want 609 00:35:51,690 --> 00:35:54,900 to call them that they may enjoy their wealth at the pleasure of 610 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,470 President Putin, if you will, but they can't force him to 611 00:35:58,470 --> 00:36:02,550 change his behavior. And so the idea that of putting sanctions 612 00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:06,840 on them will and they get upset and then go to President Putin 613 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,650 to say, you know, don't do X, I don't think that's going to 614 00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:11,010 work. 615 00:36:12,990 --> 00:36:15,330 Another thing that none of the network's picked up on, which 616 00:36:15,330 --> 00:36:18,270 is, yeah, we call them oligarchs. But in the true 617 00:36:18,270 --> 00:36:21,000 sense, an oligarch is a guy, they all work together, and they 618 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,400 can put pressure on each other, right? But nobody's putting 619 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,300 pressure on Putin. These guys are lucky to even have their 620 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:29,430 billions if it wasn't for Putin, that doesn't 621 00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:32,790 fit the way I think about them. Yes, there you go. That's the 622 00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:33,480 problem. 623 00:36:34,259 --> 00:36:36,629 And then there's a little, just a little background here, I 624 00:36:36,629 --> 00:36:38,759 thought was kind of interesting, which is the third clip 625 00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:41,310 talking about inviting him to the White House for a summit. 626 00:36:41,580 --> 00:36:44,850 What message is this sending the Russians in the Kremlin, 627 00:36:44,850 --> 00:36:48,660 they decided a long time ago that President Trump is 628 00:36:49,350 --> 00:36:52,200 politically inputted as the Russian Prime Minister put it 629 00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:56,070 once they believe that all of these actions he's taking 630 00:36:56,130 --> 00:36:59,160 against Russia are because he has to because of political 631 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,870 pressure that's being exerted on him. And they see that it 632 00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:08,730 despite their hopes, and their, their, their, their confidence 633 00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:11,880 in President Trump, they see that the relationship is on a 634 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,390 downward spiral. And that definitely is not something that 635 00:37:15,390 --> 00:37:16,560 they're very happy about. 636 00:37:16,589 --> 00:37:17,369 That said, 637 00:37:17,399 --> 00:37:21,089 they are hopeful that at some point, you know, politics is a 638 00:37:21,089 --> 00:37:25,259 crazy thing. Maybe he will have more power and he will be able 639 00:37:25,259 --> 00:37:28,589 to, if not improve the relationship. Stop its 640 00:37:28,589 --> 00:37:29,399 deterioration. 641 00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:31,920 This guy's pretty interesting. 642 00:37:32,430 --> 00:37:36,330 I like him. He was on for a while. And everything he said 643 00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:39,180 was poignant. And then well thought out. 644 00:37:40,350 --> 00:37:46,740 Russian tech investors set up shop in Silicon Valley. Hmm. 645 00:37:47,250 --> 00:37:49,860 Looks like literally Yeah, it looks like they're doing VC 646 00:37:49,860 --> 00:37:50,340 stuff. 647 00:37:50,940 --> 00:37:52,380 Yeah, BC stuff. 648 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,230 Which is pretty much screw and screwing inventors out of all 649 00:37:58,230 --> 00:38:02,970 their profits and their money. Hey, here's an idea. Yeah, 650 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,540 that's great. 651 00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:07,230 It's ours. Now this suit fits perfectly. Okay, take take a 652 00:38:07,260 --> 00:38:10,140 guess. kibble five to get out of here. 653 00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:15,090 Yeah, that's interesting. Well, okay. I think I can't find any 654 00:38:15,090 --> 00:38:19,500 flaw in your assertion that this is a done just a mess with 655 00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:23,280 Silicon Valley. I like that. That's good. I do have a one 656 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,600 Russian clip. As I don't know about this Nova chocs stuff 657 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,170 that's supposed to be the deadliest poison on Earth crazy. 658 00:38:31,170 --> 00:38:34,290 The Russians, what the hell did they invent? I mean, we it was 659 00:38:34,290 --> 00:38:38,340 just not so when we heard about this decades ago, and they used 660 00:38:38,340 --> 00:38:42,120 it on their spies. And yet, despite the spies live 661 00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:45,630 a month ago, Sergey and Yulia skripal were found slumped on a 662 00:38:45,630 --> 00:38:49,260 park bench in the city of Saulsbury where Sergey lives. 663 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,950 Britain says the St. Paul's had been exposed to Nova Chuck, a 664 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:57,270 Soviet era nerve agent. Both were in critical condition. In 665 00:38:57,270 --> 00:39:01,470 told last week, when Yulia awoke, she said in a statement 666 00:39:01,470 --> 00:39:04,140 released today that she's recovering after quote, 667 00:39:04,170 --> 00:39:09,600 disorienting experience. Russian TV has released audio of a phone 668 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,800 call purported to be between Yulia and her relative Victoria 669 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:21,120 skripal. decides to call a woman identified as Victoria asks 670 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,050 about Sergei skripal. The voice identified as Yulia responsive 671 00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:29,190 Sergei is resting has no irreversible damage and will be 672 00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:33,150 discharged soon. But chemical weapons expert Hamish de Bretton 673 00:39:33,150 --> 00:39:35,430 Gordon is skeptical or known 674 00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:39,660 how deadly these nerve agents are. Yeah, that the assertion in 675 00:39:39,660 --> 00:39:43,860 that telephone conversation is fine. Really goes against 676 00:39:43,860 --> 00:39:45,030 everything else we know. 677 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,510 He's also not convinced that the voice Russian media identifies 678 00:39:48,510 --> 00:39:52,710 Yulia skripal is really her. But Russian Foreign Minister Sergei 679 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:56,280 Lavrov says it's written that's twisting the facts. 680 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,970 That was a very mediocre script a stellar print logo, this case 681 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,330 has been used as an orchestrated pretext for the mass expulsion 682 00:40:03,330 --> 00:40:06,330 of Russian diplomats not only from the US and Britain workers, 683 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,880 but also from other countries who had their arms twisted. The 684 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,240 Kremlin 685 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:13,020 had its opening to pounce when British Foreign Secretary Boris 686 00:40:13,020 --> 00:40:16,020 Johnson told her German broadcaster that the UK is 687 00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:19,650 defense laboratory Porton down had confirmed that the Nova 688 00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:21,060 Chuck came from Russia. 689 00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:24,030 They were absolutely categorical. And I asked the guy 690 00:40:24,060 --> 00:40:27,300 myself, I said, Are you sure? And he said, there's no doubt 691 00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:30,570 but Porton, Down's chief executive said it's not the labs 692 00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:34,380 job to confirm where the nerve agent came from. Russia's 693 00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:38,580 ambassador to the UK, Alexander Yakovenko, then suggested that 694 00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:40,830 it's Britain that should be scrutinized. 695 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,070 We have a lot of suspicions about Britain. You know, so many 696 00:40:44,070 --> 00:40:48,630 Russian citizens died here in the UK, and the very strange 697 00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:49,680 circumstances 698 00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:53,640 he's referring to the suspicious deaths of at least 14 Critics of 699 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,510 the Kremlin. Meanwhile, in New York, Britain's new ambassador 700 00:40:57,510 --> 00:41:01,290 to the UN, Karen Pierce said Russia statements appear to be 701 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,110 aimed at undermining an investigation by the 702 00:41:04,110 --> 00:41:07,110 Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. 703 00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:12,660 And all I'd say on that is we as UK have nothing to hide Oh, we 704 00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:16,860 look forward to the report we asked what have the Russians got 705 00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:17,430 to fear 706 00:41:17,610 --> 00:41:21,000 the chemical weapons watchdog is expected to release its report 707 00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:22,080 next week? 708 00:41:22,170 --> 00:41:25,380 Yeah, and we know that there's they have a gag order so we'll 709 00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:26,190 never know as we 710 00:41:26,190 --> 00:41:29,940 have a guy working there. And we'll never know. And they have 711 00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:32,730 a gag order and they can't talk about anything so this is the 712 00:41:32,730 --> 00:41:35,400 word never know this is some this has got scam written all 713 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:35,970 over it. It 714 00:41:35,970 --> 00:41:38,910 does it I like the Russian angle though. Hey, hold on a second. 715 00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:43,110 What's wrong with Britain? There's all these all these guys 716 00:41:43,110 --> 00:41:45,120 who hate us who are being poisoned. What's wrong with you 717 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,720 guys? 718 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,830 Dan angles pretty funny because it says it implies that if you 719 00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:56,970 criticize the Kremlin, and you're Russian and you're in the 720 00:41:56,970 --> 00:42:00,240 UK, you die. The UK is going to kill you. 721 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,580 Who knows? 722 00:42:03,390 --> 00:42:05,130 Well, Stranger things 723 00:42:05,130 --> 00:42:08,430 have happened not beyond the realm of possibility. You and I 724 00:42:08,430 --> 00:42:10,140 have seen a lot in our combined 725 00:42:10,980 --> 00:42:16,170 numbers. If you remember those, the poor bastard who brought out 726 00:42:16,170 --> 00:42:19,560 the fact that the yellow cake was bogus, and yeah, he was 727 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,570 found dead in a ditch. Yeah, how people saved Kelly. My mi six 728 00:42:24,570 --> 00:42:27,330 killed him. There's a lot of suspicious killings. He 729 00:42:27,330 --> 00:42:28,950 killed himself with a butter knife. 730 00:42:29,250 --> 00:42:33,090 Yeah, the butter knife stabbed himself with the button. I hate 731 00:42:33,090 --> 00:42:33,870 myself 732 00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:39,720 the poorly done and my six or am I five whichever one did it 733 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,450 poorly done. butter knife. 734 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:49,110 Yeah, that was very poorly done. And yeah, there's many many 735 00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:50,610 suspicious things going on. 736 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,350 Of which we really have no more information on what we got 737 00:42:55,350 --> 00:43:00,210 nothing. Dolly have speculation. But we're I think we're good at 738 00:43:00,210 --> 00:43:04,590 speculation. Erik Prince is in the news. 739 00:43:04,770 --> 00:43:06,630 Ah, are Blackwater friend. 740 00:43:07,380 --> 00:43:11,430 Yeah, I guess he was brought in to testify in grand jury was 741 00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:12,000 after all, 742 00:43:12,030 --> 00:43:16,440 this is about the so called back channel that he had put together 743 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,700 on the Seychelles. 744 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,220 Yeah. Yeah. So now it's apparently heating up again 745 00:43:23,220 --> 00:43:27,360 because they got this stooge from Lebanon who's apparently 746 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,510 you'll say anything is let's play Prince Nadir Muller next 747 00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:33,600 and ABC News exclusive from the Russia investigation. New 748 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,570 questions tonight about the testimony of Eric Prince, a 749 00:43:36,570 --> 00:43:39,930 major Trump campaign supporter about a meeting he had with a 750 00:43:39,930 --> 00:43:43,830 Russian banker just before the inauguration at an exotic resort 751 00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:46,200 in the Seychelles prince told Congress It 752 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,140 was a coincidence. But sources say the special counsel has 753 00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:52,350 evidence that suggests it was planned ABCs Chief Justice 754 00:43:52,350 --> 00:43:53,550 correspondent Pierre Thomas, 755 00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:56,970 before we get into it, I'll just remind us of the clips we have 756 00:43:56,970 --> 00:43:59,940 Eric Prince, which I think you also brought to the show, where 757 00:43:59,940 --> 00:44:03,720 he says How stupid is this? Now if Trump is being controlled by 758 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:07,320 the Kremlin, and apparently they have some new maybe an implanted 759 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,610 chip? Then why do they need a back channel why they need me to 760 00:44:11,610 --> 00:44:15,270 create a back channel if Trump has already been controlled by 761 00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:15,930 the Kremlin? 762 00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:21,720 That was one of his assertions he did throw in a little piece 763 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:26,100 of gratuitous a fat gratuitous factoid into this report. See if 764 00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,070 you can spot it, which I thought was like a cheap shot, but they 765 00:44:29,130 --> 00:44:35,190 did it anyway. ABC. And the other thing about this 766 00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:40,470 particular situation was this was after the election. Yes. And 767 00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:42,390 it had nothing to do with the election it had to do with the 768 00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:47,310 transition or go or getting some something going with Russia. If 769 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,970 if at if anything it could have been just the coincidence that 770 00:44:50,970 --> 00:44:55,170 print said it was but it was still didn't go anywhere. It 771 00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:59,940 just seems like a complete waste of time, but play on it. 772 00:45:00,510 --> 00:45:03,810 This is Eric prince, the founder of the security company 773 00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:07,830 Blackwater and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos. 774 00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:13,230 Interesting. They don't say Academy and Z do they can 775 00:45:13,230 --> 00:45:13,740 pronounce it. 776 00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:16,890 Sources allege he was also a liaison between the Trump 777 00:45:16,890 --> 00:45:19,920 transition and the Russian government, something he 778 00:45:19,950 --> 00:45:23,580 emphatically denies. Here's Prince leaving a closed session 779 00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:27,270 with congressional investigators clearly annoyed. I've already 780 00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:31,290 wasted four hours of my life on that. Tonight Sources tell NBC 781 00:45:31,290 --> 00:45:34,560 News. The special counsel has obtained evidence that may 782 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,130 conflict with Prince's sworn testimony. Issue a meeting 783 00:45:38,130 --> 00:45:41,730 Prince attended this exotic Seychelles resort just two weeks 784 00:45:41,730 --> 00:45:45,390 before the inauguration. Also there are Russian banker with 785 00:45:45,390 --> 00:45:48,330 ties to the Kremlin process said his meeting with the Russian 786 00:45:48,330 --> 00:45:51,780 banker was unplanned, a chance encounter while on a business 787 00:45:51,780 --> 00:45:52,200 trip. 788 00:45:52,290 --> 00:45:55,470 And I was happened to be there and I met a Russian some fund 789 00:45:55,470 --> 00:45:57,600 manager I can't even remember his name. We didn't exchange 790 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,270 cards. He remembered the Russians name when speaking to 791 00:46:00,270 --> 00:46:02,340 those congressional investigators. Several months 792 00:46:02,340 --> 00:46:05,010 later, prince said he traveled to meet with some potential 793 00:46:05,010 --> 00:46:08,340 customers. And they quote mentioned a guy I should meet 794 00:46:08,340 --> 00:46:12,000 who was also in town to see them a career Dimitri of from Russia, 795 00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:15,600 who ran some sort of hedge fund. So I met him in the bar. We 796 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,020 talked for 30 minutes over a beer. And that was it. But 797 00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:22,140 there's another version of this story, and it involves George 798 00:46:22,140 --> 00:46:25,950 Nader, a Lebanese American businessman who sources say is 799 00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:29,610 cooperating with the Special Counsel interviewed four times 800 00:46:29,610 --> 00:46:32,820 by Mueller's grand jury. Those sources say Nadler set up the 801 00:46:32,820 --> 00:46:35,460 Seychelles meeting between Prince and the Russian banker 802 00:46:35,610 --> 00:46:38,040 specifically to launch conversations between the Trump 803 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,800 transition and Russian government officials. When 804 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:41,040 people 805 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,650 talk about whether there was a possible back channel or anybody 806 00:46:43,770 --> 00:46:46,080 all of that you're saying no off the tape 807 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,750 complete hogwash. But sources familiar with the special 808 00:46:48,750 --> 00:46:52,290 counsels investigation? Tell ABC News his team has obtained 809 00:46:52,290 --> 00:46:55,890 evidence from later to suggest he met with Prince at the pier 810 00:46:55,890 --> 00:46:59,550 Hotel in New York City a week before the Seychelles meeting. 811 00:46:59,820 --> 00:47:02,760 Sources say that evidence documents that reveal within 812 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,700 hours of the New York City meeting later started sending 813 00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:09,510 messages to Prince with the bio of the Russian banker, showing 814 00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:13,410 he was a powerful Putin ally. Just a week later, Prince was in 815 00:47:13,410 --> 00:47:16,770 the Seychelles having a beer with that Russian banker, a 816 00:47:16,770 --> 00:47:20,640 meeting he said was unplanned. President said he was not 817 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,520 representing the Trump transition. And his spokesman 818 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,030 told us he stands by his testimony before Congress, 819 00:47:27,330 --> 00:47:32,070 Tom Mann, this Russia stuff Meanwhile, China Bo is pouring 820 00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:35,430 troops into Djibouti and Africa. They're putting in advisors, 821 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:39,960 military advisors. That's our trick. And we're bitching about 822 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,530 this. 823 00:47:41,490 --> 00:47:45,810 And not only that, if the logic of this old is illogical things 824 00:47:45,810 --> 00:47:49,470 that take place if Prince had a meeting with this guy at the 825 00:47:49,470 --> 00:47:56,130 Pierre Hotel Why would he shoot all the way to Seychelles to 826 00:47:56,130 --> 00:47:58,260 have another meeting with him when he could just have one down 827 00:47:58,260 --> 00:48:01,230 the street at the Royal 10 or some other hotel in New York or 828 00:48:02,010 --> 00:48:05,820 are at a disco as noisy not that you can't be really recorded 829 00:48:05,820 --> 00:48:09,570 disco? A disco disco? I'm just saying that some places noisy 830 00:48:09,570 --> 00:48:14,190 You mean a club? A club? That's it? A club you go into a club 831 00:48:14,190 --> 00:48:17,010 that's noise yesterday, late at night. It was noisy. And you 832 00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:21,930 can't I mean, what it makes no sense. Now he's sneaking off to 833 00:48:21,930 --> 00:48:24,930 the Seychelles, which is probably completely bugged by 834 00:48:24,930 --> 00:48:32,340 everything by everyone, every agency. This is yeah, you're 835 00:48:32,340 --> 00:48:35,070 right. Why aren't they looking at China? What they're up to? 836 00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:36,660 Yeah, this is really why 837 00:48:36,750 --> 00:48:40,500 I know why is because all media in the United States of Gitmo 838 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:44,940 nation are in bed with the Chinese everybody's doing 839 00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:49,050 business with the Chinese. That's why they got is 840 00:48:49,050 --> 00:48:52,530 especially entertainment. Who's the Who's the guy who will 841 00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:55,590 setting up studios everyone's over their 842 00:48:56,310 --> 00:49:00,060 billion dollar studios going up. Spielberg is one of the big 843 00:49:00,570 --> 00:49:03,240 promoters of this I think Lucas has got some action over there 844 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:06,510 everybody has action there Clooney because the route 845 00:49:06,510 --> 00:49:10,140 Clooney because they have this Chinese decided that they wanted 846 00:49:10,140 --> 00:49:13,020 to clone Hollywood because it seems to be such a moneymaker 847 00:49:13,020 --> 00:49:13,140 they're 848 00:49:13,140 --> 00:49:15,060 good at cloning our successes. 849 00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:20,370 Exactly. And so they put setting up the old studio system from 850 00:49:20,370 --> 00:49:24,810 the 30s and and in fact, the number of the top movies that 851 00:49:24,810 --> 00:49:27,120 just came out I can't remember which ones offhand but I 852 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,450 remember seeing the opening credits where it talks about a 853 00:49:30,450 --> 00:49:34,320 Chinese connection it's got the Chinese some Chinese thing on 854 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:34,560 there 855 00:49:34,590 --> 00:49:38,700 China are trying to try and her characters was this 856 00:49:38,730 --> 00:49:42,780 no Chinese Chinese name characters one Dong studios. I 857 00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:46,650 mean, he's obviously that's I think that's San Francisco. And 858 00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:50,610 long or long wrong. Don Wong Dong studios. 859 00:49:54,330 --> 00:49:59,220 I mean, it's yeah, you're right. Trump second thing he said. I 860 00:49:59,220 --> 00:50:02,460 think by the way, this is Again, like Trump and Silicon Valley 861 00:50:02,460 --> 00:50:05,790 and that Russian guy, Trump says, Well, we're, you know, 862 00:50:05,790 --> 00:50:09,090 we're not we have employed anything yet, then there's 863 00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:11,850 nothing really happening. We're just making threats. But we're 864 00:50:11,850 --> 00:50:14,370 gonna take a look at intellectual property theft, 865 00:50:14,370 --> 00:50:17,640 which the Chinese are very guilty of. I mean, they stole 866 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,510 the F 35. They think and there's a lot of other things that they 867 00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:26,190 steal, but I think they're gonna go after the stolen Hollywood 868 00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:28,050 movies thing to screw up. 869 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,520 Deals. Yeah. Ooh, ooh, that would be fun, wouldn't it? 870 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,920 Thanks for the support Hollywood. Oh, by the way, we're 871 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,020 going to screw up. China. Yeah. 872 00:50:37,020 --> 00:50:41,640 How about this sanctions? Only on entertainment products? 873 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,550 Outgoing sanctions, tariffs, 874 00:50:47,730 --> 00:50:50,910 actually, because the Chinese are, like I said, are investing 875 00:50:50,910 --> 00:50:55,320 in a lot of these big tentpole movies. sanction them? 876 00:50:56,700 --> 00:50:58,590 Well, yeah, that's that's exactly the point. 877 00:50:58,919 --> 00:51:02,339 Yeah, I mean, but it'd be a it's Yeah, movie coming out. Anything 878 00:51:02,339 --> 00:51:03,059 that's associated with 879 00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:06,300 China thing that's produced in China? So all these American 880 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,900 productions that are produced in China? Should they shouldn't 881 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:14,010 China and they have to be x? And by the way, do they pay? I mean, 882 00:51:14,010 --> 00:51:18,330 is there an import export tax on on this type of product? I don't 883 00:51:18,330 --> 00:51:25,140 know. No, it's worth thinking about? Well, I would say if you 884 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,470 if you produce this thing, and you shoot it in China, at the 885 00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:31,440 multibillion dollar studios, it's a product of China. 886 00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:35,700 I would say yes to that assertion, and so you probably 887 00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:36,450 shouldn't be banned. 888 00:51:37,020 --> 00:51:42,060 I think that's, that's a fine idea. And meanwhile, there was 889 00:51:42,060 --> 00:51:47,310 like, some global cyber attack on Cisco switches, which is kind 890 00:51:47,310 --> 00:51:51,780 of being blamed on the US, even though you know, the majority of 891 00:51:51,780 --> 00:51:58,350 them, of course, are in the US. But 14,000, Cisco switches that 892 00:51:58,350 --> 00:52:03,390 have not yet received patches for exploits? Were, I guess, 893 00:52:03,390 --> 00:52:05,820 compromised? In China. 894 00:52:07,470 --> 00:52:08,430 And this is really, yeah, 895 00:52:08,459 --> 00:52:11,129 this is where you want to be. Is you want to be in the routers 896 00:52:11,129 --> 00:52:13,349 and the switches. That's what the Chinese do. We learned it 897 00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:14,309 from them. Okay. 898 00:52:16,140 --> 00:52:18,360 Yeah, you want to be there? You're in the guts. Yeah, that's 899 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,500 where you really have the beast. 900 00:52:19,529 --> 00:52:23,459 That's where you want to be. So there's actual stuff to be 901 00:52:23,459 --> 00:52:27,569 reported on. And I wouldn't mind a free trip to China to go do 902 00:52:27,569 --> 00:52:30,179 some investigative journal journalism. 903 00:52:30,690 --> 00:52:34,890 Yeah. With your escort. Yes. 904 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:41,100 My after che che i might have to che till we get into face bag 905 00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:44,010 for just a moment that I will kind of set up the C Block. 906 00:52:44,460 --> 00:52:48,420 Just you want to do that. Yeah, I will play a preliminary clip. 907 00:52:48,569 --> 00:52:51,389 Okay, as in black back background or or 908 00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:56,130 no trees, kind of just to show you this, this kind of the weird 909 00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,840 arrogance and screw Enos of Sheryl Sandberg. She did a 15 910 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,160 minute. Yes. Interview with Judy, which was very, it was 911 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,460 Judy asking very aggressive questions. And Cheryl, and it 912 00:53:08,460 --> 00:53:12,030 seemed like she was on drugs. She couldn't answer anything. 913 00:53:12,030 --> 00:53:16,170 She didn't answer anything. And, and she looks I had to say this 914 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,410 because I'm not. I don't like to criticize people's appearance. 915 00:53:19,439 --> 00:53:23,789 Oh, come on. This is television. Hold on. No entering executive 916 00:53:23,789 --> 00:53:24,239 mode 917 00:53:24,330 --> 00:53:29,130 was not even that. She is a she looks in there. I'm talking 918 00:53:29,130 --> 00:53:32,370 about Gestalt. Then when understands that kind of a 919 00:53:32,370 --> 00:53:36,060 feeling about the way somebody presents themselves. And she's 920 00:53:36,090 --> 00:53:41,580 almost a dead ringer for Bill Gates. He has this she has his 921 00:53:41,580 --> 00:53:45,000 little squid. She gets pretty much the same kind of nose. 922 00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:46,770 She's got this little squint 923 00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:50,010 stop there because this is the thing I noticed when I watched 924 00:53:50,010 --> 00:53:53,910 her also on the Today Show which I have some clips from her nose 925 00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:56,700 is a pinch to Michael Jackson. Bad nose job. 926 00:53:57,180 --> 00:53:59,490 Yeah, it says a nose job to you. Okay, well, 927 00:53:59,490 --> 00:54:01,500 that makes sense that it's a bad it's a bad job. 928 00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:06,540 Well, she has Well, yeah, well, she doesn't fit her face. You're 929 00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:10,590 right. But she has this this this look in this sneery eyes 930 00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:14,070 that she doesn't even know she's doing the kind of squinting just 931 00:54:14,070 --> 00:54:18,300 a little bit in in irritation. Yes. And then a 932 00:54:19,170 --> 00:54:22,590 it's a condescending irritation of look, I'm listening to your 933 00:54:22,590 --> 00:54:25,050 question. But you're an idiot because I'm much more 934 00:54:25,050 --> 00:54:27,120 intelligent than you. I'm just going to wait until you ask me 935 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,980 rinky dink that's what she that's what's going on in her 936 00:54:28,980 --> 00:54:29,580 head, I think. 937 00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:33,090 I think so too, because you can see it and it kind of and Bill 938 00:54:33,090 --> 00:54:36,600 used to do that exactly. When he was running Microsoft. He'd have 939 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,230 that look at that look, and then he have a snide remark. Bill 940 00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:42,960 smiled more, but this woman does the same thing. 941 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,760 And when Bill smiled, he it's kind of disarming 942 00:54:48,780 --> 00:54:51,090 but it's always it's always inappropriate. It's always just 943 00:54:51,090 --> 00:54:55,290 out in the middle of nowhere. He learned that from somebody to 944 00:54:55,290 --> 00:54:58,470 just ditch Flash a smile at for no good reason right in the 945 00:54:58,470 --> 00:55:02,280 middle of a sentence. I Ah, but she doesn't quite have that 946 00:55:02,310 --> 00:55:06,030 down. But she's got something similar. But she's got this, 947 00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:09,360 this soft kind of voice that just doesn't really want to say 948 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,970 anything. And she uses a lot of buzzwords from Silicon Valley. 949 00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:17,340 So I clipped that 15 minutes that she's with 13 and a half 950 00:55:17,340 --> 00:55:20,340 minutes actually, she spoke with Judy, I clipped it down to 45 951 00:55:20,340 --> 00:55:23,700 seconds, just to give you a feeling for her 952 00:55:23,730 --> 00:55:27,150 pull. Let's be clear what happened here. In this case, we 953 00:55:27,150 --> 00:55:29,670 had a feature that enabled you to find your friends, you could 954 00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:32,580 find your friends by their name, or their email or their phone 955 00:55:32,580 --> 00:55:35,880 number. Well, this plays into the overall situation we're in. 956 00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:39,270 I'm really sorry for that in Marks really sorry. I'm really 957 00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:42,270 sorry for that. And marks really sorry. When we saw specific 958 00:55:42,270 --> 00:55:46,170 problems, we shut those specific problems down the questions on 959 00:55:46,170 --> 00:55:49,530 the selection. They are big and they are deep trust is a really 960 00:55:49,530 --> 00:55:52,470 important thing. You're asking a really important question. And, 961 00:55:53,010 --> 00:55:55,950 you know, for me personally, the fact that people would not trust 962 00:55:55,950 --> 00:55:58,800 us, I take responsibility for that, and that that hits hard. 963 00:55:58,830 --> 00:56:01,500 We're taking a proactive approach. It's a critical 964 00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:03,840 question. And I'm glad you asked, Well, we made big 965 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,870 mistakes. And we know that and I think it really is that we were 966 00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:09,270 very focused on social experiences. 967 00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:14,370 Yeah, you're right. She has a very gates esque. You even her 968 00:56:14,370 --> 00:56:19,950 speech and heard her dead tone? Yeah, dead tone. Ah, yeah, I 969 00:56:19,950 --> 00:56:22,620 caught her on. Well, she was she was doing a lot of interviews 970 00:56:22,620 --> 00:56:28,440 and NBC, the NBC news department was sending out clips left and 971 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:33,510 right to MSNBC, CNBC, everybody had clips of Sandburg. And the 972 00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:37,290 interview was done by your girl. What's her name? Savannah. 973 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,630 Savannah Guthrie? 974 00:56:40,379 --> 00:56:43,289 Can I just throw one thing when we first started playing these 975 00:56:43,289 --> 00:56:47,279 clips horse? Because I'm still contemplating that little 45 976 00:56:47,279 --> 00:56:51,599 Second thing. I remember her when she was out with her book. 977 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,849 Lean in. And 978 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,560 Lean forward, lean forward, lean, lean in. Lean forward, I 979 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,650 thought lean maybe it's lean in. I don't know. I think it was 980 00:57:01,649 --> 00:57:05,909 lean in. But she was a little livelier. She had a little more 981 00:57:05,909 --> 00:57:09,839 personality. She was she was a little more excitable. I think 982 00:57:09,839 --> 00:57:11,789 she's on Prozac or something. Because, you know, 983 00:57:12,359 --> 00:57:14,129 I was just about to say that. 984 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,480 Because she'd be the type that would take it because the good 985 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,940 good doctor, they know what they're doing. Yeah. And she 986 00:57:20,940 --> 00:57:23,070 could be strung out on that because it's 987 00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:25,980 probably a problem. Also, her husband just died. You know, a 988 00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:28,950 couple of years ago when you know, was killed. I think she 989 00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:32,910 was killed. Yeah, it was killed and that resort. Yeah, no, he 990 00:57:32,910 --> 00:57:37,170 fell. He fell off the treadmill backwards and hit his his split 991 00:57:37,170 --> 00:57:40,170 his head open and died. Yeah, backwards. 992 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,610 Yeah, well, you faceplant. Usually when you sell typically 993 00:57:44,610 --> 00:57:48,510 what the what I see on YouTube? Yes. Yeah, I, I don't see it 994 00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:49,170 backwards. 995 00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:53,850 But she does sound like she's drugged up because she's got 996 00:57:53,850 --> 00:57:57,000 that kind of I'm talking like, oh, no, everything's fine. And I 997 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,690 feel sorry for people. And I take full responsibility. 998 00:58:01,410 --> 00:58:06,990 Just thinking of her. I would actually say Xanax, okay. Yeah, 999 00:58:06,990 --> 00:58:10,830 she's a Xanax, girl. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, she's a 1000 00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:13,680 barra de Barra. De 1001 00:58:13,710 --> 00:58:14,130 All right. 1002 00:58:15,060 --> 00:58:17,490 All right. So Savannah Guthrie interviews, Sheryl Sandberg, 1003 00:58:17,490 --> 00:58:21,330 which is an interesting choice, as is witnessed by and you can 1004 00:58:21,330 --> 00:58:25,830 hear many of them that to hack this thing together. But it was 1005 00:58:25,830 --> 00:58:29,400 a 15 minute interview. I don't understand why. And it's just 1006 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,080 kind of where it got interesting. So I don't know if 1007 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,800 it was a question of, well, shoot, let's take that out. I 1008 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,070 don't want that in there. What I said or if it was just to get 1009 00:58:38,070 --> 00:58:42,480 through mumbling and bumbling from Savannah Guthrie, but there 1010 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:48,030 was really only one. And when I just scanning all the channels, 1011 00:58:48,690 --> 00:58:52,110 the way the news media is picking this up is pure hatred 1012 00:58:52,110 --> 00:58:57,150 for Facebook face bag stealing their money. That's obvious. 1013 00:58:57,150 --> 00:59:01,020 There's this stole their money from the elections, there was a 1014 00:59:01,020 --> 00:59:02,850 lot of names that went into the face. That's 1015 00:59:02,850 --> 00:59:05,430 a perfect, I think you'd have to be right on that analysis. 1016 00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:09,210 Because the media does not like people stealing their money. 1017 00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:14,580 It's one of their favorite least favorite things. So there's, you 1018 00:59:14,580 --> 00:59:18,180 know, there's a lot of examples about how horrible and dangerous 1019 00:59:18,180 --> 00:59:22,200 and just crazy it is to even be a part of face bag. So I have a 1020 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,080 couple of those clips. We'll start first with under a minute, 1021 00:59:25,470 --> 00:59:29,280 the most important question, which and if you do hear this 1022 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,680 phrase everywhere, like we haven't been saying it since the 1023 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,340 inception of the show, and before that, if something's 1024 00:59:35,340 --> 00:59:39,780 free, you are the product. And it will Savannah heard this too. 1025 00:59:39,810 --> 00:59:40,350 People say 1026 00:59:40,350 --> 00:59:43,080 that we're the product, our data, that's the product you're 1027 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:43,530 selling, 1028 00:59:43,620 --> 00:59:46,950 and that's not true. So here's how our business works. We don't 1029 00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:52,050 sell data ever. We do not give personal data to advertisers. 1030 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,260 People come on to Facebook, they want to do targeted ads, and 1031 00:59:55,260 --> 00:59:58,170 that's really important for small business, but pitch. 1032 00:59:58,530 --> 01:00:04,320 Okay, first Of all we don't sell data ever, although they it was 1033 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,880 a very small little bit of news that we caught. Where I think it 1034 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,210 was Zuckerberg who said we've affected a spokes hole said we 1035 01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:17,940 have stopped doing business with not Equifax was the other one. 1036 01:00:17,970 --> 01:00:18,240 It's 1037 01:00:19,529 --> 01:00:23,339 a I echo something or other. Ah, that's 1038 01:00:23,370 --> 01:00:28,620 yeah. Anyway, one of the one of the FICO companies. So it seems 1039 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,790 unlikely to me that they weren't actually giving data, maybe some 1040 01:00:32,820 --> 01:00:34,440 some type of rollover totally 1041 01:00:34,830 --> 01:00:38,280 giving data. Well, but the way she sees she's looking at it 1042 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,950 from she's just from the advertising perspective, that's 1043 01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:41,850 what she starts. She's, 1044 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,790 but she's also looking at it from a legal standpoint, but 1045 01:00:44,790 --> 01:00:48,120 she's kind of wishy washy. We never sell your data. No, you 1046 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:53,040 gave it away. Before the prior to 2014. The data was just up 1047 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,280 for grabs anyone could get it. The Obama administration had 1048 01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:01,350 there. They didn't, not the campaign in 2012, had the entire 1049 01:01:01,410 --> 01:01:03,090 database had everything. 1050 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,140 Now I want to go back to Savannah has written original 1051 01:01:07,140 --> 01:01:10,950 question about we're the product. Yeah, this is a talking 1052 01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:14,760 point, because, of course, because her answer to the 1053 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:20,370 question, it really is not the answer to the question, if you 1054 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,700 understand the question, what and Savannah doesn't, she just 1055 01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:27,060 asked the question and accepted the answer there. The real point 1056 01:01:27,060 --> 01:01:31,380 about your the product is not is not your data. No, it's not 1057 01:01:31,380 --> 01:01:36,450 like, Oh, here's my, here's my data. Selling, you're gonna sell 1058 01:01:36,450 --> 01:01:40,410 it? No, no, the point is, is that you being the product, and 1059 01:01:40,410 --> 01:01:43,290 I'll explain it, I've explained it before. And but Savannah 1060 01:01:43,290 --> 01:01:47,580 doesn't understand this. Because if she did, she realized that 1061 01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:49,080 she's in the same business 1062 01:01:50,850 --> 01:01:54,750 that she might get, get a brain freeze, if she realizes that 1063 01:01:54,990 --> 01:01:58,290 yet. And when they say you're the product, it means the 1064 01:01:58,290 --> 01:02:03,240 following. As a publisher, or a broadcaster, or a web service, 1065 01:02:03,630 --> 01:02:09,900 you gather up a pile of users that all have a similar style, a 1066 01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:12,720 similar background, a similar tastes a similar psychographic, 1067 01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:18,420 you package them. And you it's a virtual thing, you package them 1068 01:02:18,420 --> 01:02:21,870 as a virtual thing and show the advertisers hey, look, this is 1069 01:02:21,870 --> 01:02:27,180 who we have, we can sell you these people. Yeah, that's 1070 01:02:27,210 --> 01:02:29,940 that's how you're the product, you're not the product, because 1071 01:02:29,940 --> 01:02:32,700 we're stealing your data. You are the product because you're a 1072 01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:37,230 piece of a giant package that is presented virtually to an 1073 01:02:37,230 --> 01:02:41,250 advertiser as something that they can buy, meaning they can 1074 01:02:41,250 --> 01:02:44,970 advertise specifically to you. That is not understood by 1075 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,940 Savannah, I can assure you, and I don't think it's even 1076 01:02:47,940 --> 01:02:52,740 explained. Explained in any way on any of these shows that are 1077 01:02:52,740 --> 01:02:55,560 using your the product as a talking point, which somehow 1078 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:56,910 crept into the conversation. 1079 01:02:56,910 --> 01:03:01,590 Well, I'm glad you You rolled that out that way, because 1080 01:03:01,590 --> 01:03:06,240 what's going on here? Is you ask this question, and both sides 1081 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,770 when the question, we don't really want to expose the fact 1082 01:03:10,770 --> 01:03:15,510 that we're packaging you like, like bad debt in the in the, in 1083 01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:19,080 the Great Recession. Right. And we're selling y'all exactly the 1084 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,780 same. That's a good analogy. Yeah. So we don't really want 1085 01:03:21,780 --> 01:03:27,930 you to know that. But you know, but face bag is really bad 1086 01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:32,670 because they're selling your privacy your data. And Sandberg 1087 01:03:32,670 --> 01:03:36,510 bank has to come in and say, Oh, you weren't we didn't ever sell 1088 01:03:36,510 --> 01:03:39,390 data ever. So everybody looks good. In this case, they both 1089 01:03:39,390 --> 01:03:44,250 win, really. It's a chick collusion, Chip, collusion, 1090 01:03:44,250 --> 01:03:44,790 collusion, 1091 01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:47,640 people say that we're the product, our data, that's the 1092 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:48,600 product you're selling. 1093 01:03:48,660 --> 01:03:52,020 And that's not true. So here's how our business works. We don't 1094 01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:56,040 sell data ever. We do not give personal data, 1095 01:03:56,070 --> 01:03:59,400 by the way. It was Experian. That's who they're doing 1096 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,170 business with. They're definitely one of those 1097 01:04:01,170 --> 01:04:04,140 companies. And you just explained how their business 1098 01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:06,780 works. Now here, Sheryl Sandberg explain it. 1099 01:04:06,990 --> 01:04:11,880 We don't sell data ever. We do not give personal data to 1100 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,880 advertisers. People come on to Facebook, they want to do 1101 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,550 targeted ads. And that's really important for small business. 1102 01:04:17,730 --> 01:04:22,200 But people want to show ads, we take those ads, we show them. 1103 01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:25,560 And then we don't pass any individual information back to 1104 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,760 the advertiser. You don't have 1105 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,360 to pass it because you collect all the information. And then 1106 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,840 you target the ads for the advertisers. That's the cents 1107 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,820 rate that you charge the advertisers. That's 1108 01:04:35,820 --> 01:04:38,250 right. And that's a very good service. That's a privacy 1109 01:04:38,250 --> 01:04:39,360 protected good service. 1110 01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:42,150 Could you come up with a tool that said, I do not want 1111 01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:46,020 Facebook to use my personal profile data to target me for 1112 01:04:46,020 --> 01:04:49,440 advertising? Do you have an opt out button? Please don't use my 1113 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,150 profile data for advertising. 1114 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,720 We have different forms of opt out. We don't have an opt out at 1115 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,230 the highest level that would be a paid product. 1116 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,600 I love the way I love that, you know, that's her talking point 1117 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,950 everywhere. Now, if you want to opt out and don't give us your 1118 01:05:07,950 --> 01:05:12,060 data, that's a paid product, which really explains exactly 1119 01:05:12,060 --> 01:05:16,530 what they do. And I've heard that the APR you, the average or 1120 01:05:16,530 --> 01:05:21,270 the ARP, you the ARPU, the average revenue per user, I 1121 01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:28,470 think is 25 bucks a quarter. Oh, so 100 bucks. Face bag is making 1122 01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:32,820 off of me every year. That's real money. Yeah, it's a lot of 1123 01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:36,750 money. It's, it's, it's actually it's quite high, even by now. 1124 01:05:36,990 --> 01:05:38,370 Very spiders. Yeah. 1125 01:05:38,460 --> 01:05:42,450 But I think their targeting mechanism is the best. Yeah, 1126 01:05:42,660 --> 01:05:45,960 yeah. There's no doubt about it. But the way they've done this 1127 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,440 with this year, the product thing and they switched it to 1128 01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:55,200 not making any sense, in the way that it what it really means, 1129 01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:00,360 which is what NBC does, too. I thought was May it might even be 1130 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,780 subversive, it might be the get people off of the your the 1131 01:06:03,780 --> 01:06:06,900 product concepts, because they won't they'll never fully 1132 01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:09,900 understand it. Because no, I'm not the product cuz they're not 1133 01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:11,070 selling my data. And 1134 01:06:11,070 --> 01:06:14,010 it comes it kind of comes around beautifully by saying, hey, 1135 01:06:14,010 --> 01:06:18,420 look, we give you ads, or else you have to pay, and I think 1136 01:06:18,420 --> 01:06:20,010 people go okay, yeah, that's 1137 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,460 giving me ADS has nothing to do with me being the product, 1138 01:06:23,580 --> 01:06:27,540 because the real meta of me being the product is never 1139 01:06:27,540 --> 01:06:34,920 explained. Let's hear it's just, it's just corrupt. Talking to 1140 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:35,490 corruption. 1141 01:06:36,149 --> 01:06:39,479 Yeah, we can't have the viewer actually understand what's going 1142 01:06:39,479 --> 01:06:44,339 on here. That would be wrong. This is the former head of 1143 01:06:44,729 --> 01:06:51,299 Google's g plus. And he is I think it was NPR. And he was 1144 01:06:51,299 --> 01:06:56,519 talking about the data and the access to user data, etc. And I 1145 01:06:56,519 --> 01:06:59,879 think being the former head of Google Plus may make him a 1146 01:06:59,879 --> 01:07:02,849 little bit biased. It's not announced in this interview it 1147 01:07:02,849 --> 01:07:06,089 just former Google guy executive but yeah, he was their direct 1148 01:07:06,089 --> 01:07:10,139 competitor. Here's what he had to say about the data access or 1149 01:07:10,139 --> 01:07:10,649 sale. 1150 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,250 Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg will be facing tough questions 1151 01:07:14,250 --> 01:07:17,370 when he appears before Congress in the coming days. At the top 1152 01:07:17,370 --> 01:07:20,430 of the list, the scandal involving Cambridge Analytica, 1153 01:07:20,730 --> 01:07:23,640 that's the company that's been accused of improperly obtaining 1154 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,030 data from millions of Facebook users, then using that 1155 01:07:27,030 --> 01:07:30,510 information for its work on political campaigns reportedly 1156 01:07:30,510 --> 01:07:33,870 including the Trump campaign. Let's hear now from someone with 1157 01:07:33,870 --> 01:07:37,230 a long history in Silicon Valley. Jana tan Xanga. The 1158 01:07:37,230 --> 01:07:40,200 former Google engineer recently wrote in The Boston Globe that 1159 01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:43,920 this scandal is just more evidence that the entire tech 1160 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,740 industry faces unethical crisis. The method 1161 01:07:46,740 --> 01:07:49,470 by which Cambridge analytical got the data from Facebook was 1162 01:07:49,470 --> 01:07:52,770 the system Facebook built almost specifically for the purpose of 1163 01:07:52,770 --> 01:07:55,830 making it easy for companies to harvest information about 1164 01:07:55,860 --> 01:07:57,060 networks of individuals, 1165 01:07:57,270 --> 01:08:00,450 right and you right that that over and over again, throughout 1166 01:08:00,450 --> 01:08:03,750 history, and also in recent years in the tech field, 1167 01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:07,740 companies work on something with a specific intention. And then, 1168 01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:11,580 and then the product is used with only a slightly degree off 1169 01:08:11,580 --> 01:08:14,910 from that intention in a way that nobody thought about and 1170 01:08:14,910 --> 01:08:16,470 causes a lot of harm. 1171 01:08:17,340 --> 01:08:20,760 Absolutely. Something I always tell people is that any idiot 1172 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,400 can build a system, any amateur can make it perform. 1173 01:08:23,580 --> 01:08:26,940 professionals think about how a system will fail. It's very 1174 01:08:26,940 --> 01:08:29,640 common for people to think about how a system will work if it's 1175 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,220 used the way they imagine it. But they don't think about how 1176 01:08:32,220 --> 01:08:35,700 that system might work if it were used by a bad actor, or it 1177 01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:38,580 could be used by just a perfectly ordinary person who's 1178 01:08:38,580 --> 01:08:40,830 just a little different from what the person designing it is 1179 01:08:40,830 --> 01:08:41,280 like, 1180 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:46,410 conclusion. Does face bad guys are no good. We Googlers we're 1181 01:08:46,410 --> 01:08:49,410 smart. We're much smarter. We think about both sides of the 1182 01:08:49,410 --> 01:08:53,370 equation. And I'm sure he did that. Just that with Google 1183 01:08:53,370 --> 01:08:54,690 Plus, and that's why it failed. 1184 01:08:55,050 --> 01:08:57,750 Yes, exactly why exactly what happened 1185 01:08:57,870 --> 01:09:04,200 here is representative ro Khanna who was very upset about what 1186 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,250 face bag is doing. 1187 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:09,210 So what do you want to hear from Mark Zuckerberg this week? What 1188 01:09:09,210 --> 01:09:10,770 questions do you think he needs? 1189 01:09:10,980 --> 01:09:18,180 Jays? Am I the product? That would be the question I'd have 1190 01:09:18,180 --> 01:09:20,040 Hey, Zuck, am I the product? 1191 01:09:20,430 --> 01:09:23,550 I'm glad he's testifying. I'm glad he's doing media 1192 01:09:23,550 --> 01:09:27,720 interviews, and I hope he will come out for well crafted 1193 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,080 regulations. I personally have advocated that we need an 1194 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,260 internet bill of rights. It's time that tech leaders like 1195 01:09:34,260 --> 01:09:38,280 Zuckerberg embrace that, including the right to know what 1196 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,760 your data is a right to be able to transfer your data, a right 1197 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,760 to be able to delete your data. There are a number of common 1198 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,580 sense provisions that we need enshrined into law. 1199 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,730 And when you say common sense, you know, he means we're never 1200 01:09:50,730 --> 01:09:54,810 going to do anything. But it does kind of dovetail and 1201 01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:57,420 there's more to this clip. It does kind of dovetail into the 1202 01:09:57,780 --> 01:10:01,950 the GDPR which kicks off In this month, the global data 1203 01:10:01,950 --> 01:10:06,510 protection rules, which which pertain to the EU, mainly, but 1204 01:10:06,510 --> 01:10:10,890 they have the G word in there meaning global. And this is 1205 01:10:10,890 --> 01:10:14,880 harmonization of the universe. This Oh, yeah, this is 1206 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,060 harmonization. This is the Trilateral Commission. John, 1207 01:10:18,450 --> 01:10:21,540 do you think there's room especially in an election year 1208 01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:23,880 to get something passed that deals with this? 1209 01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:28,590 I absolutely think there is. The reason is that even Republicans 1210 01:10:28,590 --> 01:10:33,330 and libertarians will support I believe, an individual's right 1211 01:10:33,330 --> 01:10:38,040 to privacy to their own data. This is a case where technology 1212 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,850 has moved lightning fast and the laws haven't caught up. There 1213 01:10:41,850 --> 01:10:45,180 should be some common sense principles that will assure the 1214 01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:48,030 American public that their rights are going to be protected 1215 01:10:48,030 --> 01:10:48,720 online. 1216 01:10:49,260 --> 01:10:52,410 You know, both political parties have long embraced Silicon 1217 01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:55,590 Valley, and you yourself got a lot of key endorsements from 1218 01:10:55,590 --> 01:11:00,120 tech figures, including Facebook CEO, Sheryl Sandberg. But from 1219 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,330 the beginning, the whole point of social media was to monetize 1220 01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:07,020 people's personal data and, and in recent years, campaigns have 1221 01:11:07,020 --> 01:11:10,320 done a lot of bragging about how efficiently they can micro 1222 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,230 target voters. So what's changed here? 1223 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,950 Yeah, I'm really very proud of representing Silicon Valley 1224 01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:20,100 proud of having Sheryl support. And I think she can play a very 1225 01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:23,670 constructive role. Now in articulating the right type of 1226 01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:27,570 regulation that we need, I guess what I'd say is, I still believe 1227 01:11:27,570 --> 01:11:31,890 in the power of social media, the Parkland kids are using live 1228 01:11:31,890 --> 01:11:35,100 to get their message out and mobilize and Twitter to help 1229 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:35,730 mobilize 1230 01:11:35,730 --> 01:11:39,990 and what he what he means to say is, I'm just I'm so happy with 1231 01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:43,410 the power of the face bag is where our stooges who have all 1232 01:11:43,410 --> 01:11:47,250 these crazy nonprofits can hypnotize children, turn them 1233 01:11:47,250 --> 01:11:51,450 into zombies and mobilize them through social media. That's 1234 01:11:51,450 --> 01:11:54,300 what he's really saying. This is a fantastic tool 1235 01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:54,960 show, 1236 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,650 waiting the right type of regulation that we need, I guess 1237 01:11:58,650 --> 01:12:01,620 what I'd say is, I still believe in the power of social media, 1238 01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:05,070 the Parkland kids are using Facebook Live to get their 1239 01:12:05,070 --> 01:12:08,700 message out and mobilize and Twitter to help mobilize a new 1240 01:12:08,700 --> 01:12:13,380 generation, it would be wrong to say, let's not have social media 1241 01:12:13,380 --> 01:12:16,320 when the next generation is being inspired politically by 1242 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:21,060 it. But what 2016 showed us is that these technologies can be 1243 01:12:21,060 --> 01:12:24,210 very dangerous if they are abused, very dangerous. 1244 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,480 I love the arrogance of this prick by saying, Well, you know, 1245 01:12:27,630 --> 01:12:30,150 we shouldn't just outlaw it, you know, but because that's what we 1246 01:12:30,150 --> 01:12:32,760 can do. Because that's, you know, on the representative 1247 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,210 here, and it's very, very dangerous if done the wrong way. 1248 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:42,450 Give full a crap. This guy's a douche. Now, but now, you know, 1249 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,140 we've been following this, and I have the act in front of me, 1250 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,090 regulation will be required Facebook 1251 01:12:48,090 --> 01:12:50,970 will require authorization for the purchase of any issue 1252 01:12:50,970 --> 01:12:54,480 related ads and authentication of pages with 10s of 1000s of 1253 01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:57,030 followers. Facebook is still working out the details of how 1254 01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:59,880 it will authenticate and authorize Mark Zuckerberg 1255 01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,640 writing quote, these steps by themselves will stop all people 1256 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,280 trying to game the system, but they will make it a lot harder 1257 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,880 for anyone to do what the Russians did during the 2016 1258 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,510 election and to use fake accounts and pages to run ads. 1259 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,750 Consumers can expect a lot more disclosure disclosures, 1260 01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:18,690 identifying political and issue ads, as well as information 1261 01:13:18,690 --> 01:13:21,780 about who paid for them. This of course is Facebook rushes out a 1262 01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:25,320 range of changes ahead of Zuckerberg testimony next week. 1263 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:27,960 Its latest attempt to show policymakers that it has the 1264 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,360 platform under control. Yeah, 1265 01:13:30,420 --> 01:13:32,700 so they're they're ahead of the game they know exactly what's 1266 01:13:32,700 --> 01:13:35,430 coming down. So they're trying to get you know, look good and 1267 01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:38,880 and have everything else set because what is coming up now is 1268 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:45,300 the honest ads act. Yeah, this is the one and this is Warner 1269 01:13:45,300 --> 01:13:49,920 and McCain and Klobuchar. So this is bipartisan, and I just 1270 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:50,280 thought, well, 1271 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:55,230 Warner's an asshole. Klobuchar is an asshole. Yeah. And McCain. 1272 01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:56,940 Well, hey, is it just to try? 1273 01:13:58,050 --> 01:14:03,810 It's a trash hole. This is the honest ads act. And the purpose 1274 01:14:03,810 --> 01:14:06,990 of this act is to enhance the integrity of American democracy 1275 01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:10,170 and national security by improving disclosure 1276 01:14:10,170 --> 01:14:13,950 requirements for online political advertisements. And 1277 01:14:14,010 --> 01:14:18,930 so, the actual law is not that interesting, but the findings of 1278 01:14:18,930 --> 01:14:22,470 Congress are quite interesting. They also defined some things 1279 01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:26,970 for us. In the preamble of findings, Moscow's influence 1280 01:14:26,970 --> 01:14:30,750 campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends 1281 01:14:30,750 --> 01:14:34,800 covert intelligence operations such as cyber activity with 1282 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,860 overt efforts by Russian government agencies, state 1283 01:14:37,860 --> 01:14:41,910 funded media, third party intermediate and paid social 1284 01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:47,490 media users or trolls. Oh, they've redefined trolls 1285 01:14:47,490 --> 01:14:50,130 if somebody calls me a trial, I want to know where my check 1286 01:14:50,130 --> 01:14:50,490 Yeah, 1287 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,530 I mean, the redefined troll right there. 1288 01:14:52,890 --> 01:14:55,050 It redefined it. He had to be paid. 1289 01:14:55,650 --> 01:14:59,040 Well, actually, the media redefined it for us. Then they 1290 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:07,380 go into By the they had some research done by how to see the 1291 01:15:07,380 --> 01:15:10,710 computational propaganda research project at Oxford 1292 01:15:10,710 --> 01:15:16,860 Internet Institute. She's who founded the Kremlin. I don't 1293 01:15:16,860 --> 01:15:20,460 know who found that the Kremlin is using pro Russian bots, pro 1294 01:15:20,460 --> 01:15:22,440 Russian bots. Like oh, look at that. 1295 01:15:22,799 --> 01:15:28,769 A bot. I love Russia. I am a bot. I love Russia, pro Russian 1296 01:15:28,769 --> 01:15:33,269 bot, which is a bot actually. Is there such a thing as a bot with 1297 01:15:33,269 --> 01:15:35,279 some sort of political preference? Yeah, 1298 01:15:35,309 --> 01:15:36,239 he's pro Russian 1299 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,070 I bought and I think for myself. 1300 01:15:39,090 --> 01:15:41,970 That's that's the fear. That's the fear is that the bots will 1301 01:15:41,970 --> 01:15:45,390 eventually start thinking for themselves. But yeah, this is 1302 01:15:45,450 --> 01:15:48,270 you can't write this if we were to write something funny I 1303 01:15:48,270 --> 01:15:48,570 should 1304 01:15:50,130 --> 01:15:51,870 have bought. What do you want me to think? 1305 01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:54,750 So they found that the Kremlin is using pro Russian bots to 1306 01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:58,110 manipulate public disclosure to a highly targeted audience. 1307 01:15:58,140 --> 01:16:02,280 Listen to this marketing jargon. With a sample of nearly 1308 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:06,360 1000 1,300,000 tweets researchers found in the 2016 1309 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:12,180 elections, three decisive states propaganda constituted in the 26 1310 01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:15,840 elections, three decisive states propaganda constituted 40% of 1311 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,970 the sampled election related tweets that went to 1312 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,900 Pennsylvanians. 34% of Michigan voters and 30% of those in 1313 01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:28,380 Wisconsin, this is pretty well defined numbers here. Not quite 1314 01:16:28,380 --> 01:16:29,520 sure how they did that. But 1315 01:16:29,550 --> 01:16:31,470 anyone know how you do that either? How do you know if 1316 01:16:31,470 --> 01:16:34,170 somebody's in Wisconsin, you got to be at the Oxford Internet 1317 01:16:34,170 --> 01:16:38,970 Institute. I mean, I just Sam Adams at Sam Adams. And he says, 1318 01:16:38,970 --> 01:16:43,320 I am a teacher and a professor and I and I like to plant weeds. 1319 01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:47,100 And then it doesn't usually say where you're from. Sometimes it 1320 01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:50,490 does. Sometimes it doesn't. I mean, I got west coast as my 1321 01:16:50,490 --> 01:16:51,720 location. But also, 1322 01:16:51,780 --> 01:16:56,550 isn't it interesting that face bag is under attack yet this 1323 01:16:56,550 --> 01:17:01,110 document here is about Twitter, Twitter. Yeah. And now this this 1324 01:17:01,110 --> 01:17:04,230 is this just these numbers are very interesting. On September 1325 01:17:04,230 --> 01:17:07,350 sixth 2017, the nation's largest social media platform disclosed 1326 01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:11,130 in between June, Russian entities purchased $100,000 in 1327 01:17:11,130 --> 01:17:14,280 political advertisements published Holy mackerel, 1328 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,510 publishing roughly 3000 ads linked to fake accounts 1329 01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:21,840 associated with the internet research agency, a pro Kremlin 1330 01:17:21,870 --> 01:17:26,100 organization, which according to the company, the ads purchase 1331 01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:29,430 focused on quote amplifying divisive social and political 1332 01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:33,090 messages. But what's interesting and look just a little bit 1333 01:17:33,090 --> 01:17:38,220 further down, is according to a study from Burrell associates, 1334 01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:43,890 in 2016, that is this most recent election. Well, I'm going 1335 01:17:43,890 --> 01:17:47,640 to ask you to ask John how much money was spent in online 1336 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:55,800 advertising? across the entire the entire spectrum, all parties 1337 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:56,850 all candidates 1338 01:17:58,980 --> 01:18:00,240 to under 50 million. 1339 01:18:01,710 --> 01:18:08,160 That's i That's low, man. You ready? 1.4 billion 1340 01:18:08,610 --> 01:18:13,530 1.4 billion online? Yep. And so but the Russians with their 1341 01:18:13,530 --> 01:18:17,460 $100,000 were the cheesy ads that were more laughable than 1342 01:18:17,460 --> 01:18:21,570 they were advertising. They swung the election, wasting 1343 01:18:21,570 --> 01:18:22,110 their money 1344 01:18:22,140 --> 01:18:26,430 as well. Okay, so what they're changing now in this law, I'll 1345 01:18:26,430 --> 01:18:32,550 just give you that little piece here is they strike out in the 1346 01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:35,520 Federal Election Campaign Act of 19/72. Stop. 1347 01:18:36,180 --> 01:18:40,260 Let's go back and contemplate this a little more. 1.4 billion 1348 01:18:40,290 --> 01:18:45,900 online? Yes. So this would really this has got to really 1349 01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:48,120 golf, Les Moonves, 1350 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,240 yes. Yes, ABC and 1351 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,600 NBC, all the radio stations and probably some of the big 1352 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,210 newspapers, although they have online presence that they could 1353 01:18:57,210 --> 01:19:01,020 probably benefit from some of that. But I don't think CBS 1354 01:19:01,020 --> 01:19:05,730 really made a killing on online. Now. This is the this is yeah, 1355 01:19:05,730 --> 01:19:08,430 this is I don't believe that number. But anyway, okay. 1356 01:19:08,460 --> 01:19:12,360 But yeah, I mean, do we have reason to believe the 34% 1357 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,690 propaganda in Wisconsin? I mean, come on is the internet research 1358 01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:19,590 agency of the Cambridge Oxford, Cambridge, something British, 1359 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:25,110 British is British, it's authoritarian. So the law 1360 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:28,440 continues. Now just finished up the law is amended, amended this 1361 01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:33,000 act by striking or satellite communication, and inserting 1362 01:19:33,210 --> 01:19:37,800 satellite paid internet or paid digital communication. And then 1363 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,890 little further on they're going to strike on broadcast stations 1364 01:19:40,890 --> 01:19:43,980 or a newspaper, blah, blah, and then change it to in any public 1365 01:19:43,980 --> 01:19:51,000 communication. And then finally, they will be inserting the 1366 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:56,010 clause. Any news story commentary editorial distributed 1367 01:19:56,010 --> 01:19:58,500 through the facilities of any broadcasting station or any 1368 01:19:58,500 --> 01:20:01,980 print online or Digital Newspaper magazine blog 1369 01:20:01,980 --> 01:20:05,400 publication periodical unless broadcasting print online 1370 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,910 digital facilities are owned or controlled by any political 1371 01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:14,310 party, political candidate, committee, etc. So they really 1372 01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:18,360 you're gonna have to disclose if you have anything to do with 1373 01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:21,810 political money, you're gonna have to disclose it. And they 1374 01:20:21,810 --> 01:20:25,560 also want commentary and editorials to disclose. Well, 1375 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,520 that's probably a plus. For us. It is yes. But I think a lot of 1376 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:33,600 people may be like, hold on a second. But here's the here's 1377 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,970 the funny thing. This is guy from The Daily standard. Is that 1378 01:20:38,970 --> 01:20:40,680 a right wing job? The daily standard? 1379 01:20:41,550 --> 01:20:42,930 Yeah. Okay. 1380 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:49,470 Well, the he has he draw some obvious conclusions. Here we go. 1381 01:20:49,650 --> 01:20:52,830 Is this the beginning of a watershed moment for big tech? I 1382 01:20:52,830 --> 01:20:55,500 think so. And I don't think necessarily for the obvious 1383 01:20:55,500 --> 01:20:58,440 reasons. I think there's two big threats to Facebook right now. 1384 01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:01,290 One is that people will stop using the social media company. 1385 01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:05,250 We're beginning to see that a little bit and we were only have 1386 01:21:05,250 --> 01:21:08,280 this all happened. The other threat, I think, for Facebook, 1387 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,980 in particular, is that the data which is their currency, 1388 01:21:10,980 --> 01:21:14,640 Facebook is basically an ad company. So what they sell is 1389 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,760 ads and how they sell it is because people voluntarily use 1390 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,390 that company. So I think the other thread is that people that 1391 01:21:21,390 --> 01:21:26,070 these ads basically don't work, and that I think, the Cambridge 1392 01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:30,150 Analytica, I think it's obviously detrimental to the 1393 01:21:30,150 --> 01:21:32,490 company. But I think it's mostly detrimental because I think it 1394 01:21:32,490 --> 01:21:35,910 shows that those ads didn't actually work as effectively as 1395 01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:39,510 perhaps promised. And that I think, poses a huge existential 1396 01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:43,290 threat to the company as as it stands currently, you see the 1397 01:21:43,290 --> 01:21:46,800 words Cambridge Analytica, and that is closely and 1398 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,080 understandably linked to the Trump campaign in President 1399 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,500 Trump's victory in the 2016 election, how much of this 1400 01:21:52,530 --> 01:21:57,930 outrage you think stems from the political consequences versus 1401 01:21:57,930 --> 01:22:01,710 the goodness of politicians who want to protect all of us from 1402 01:22:01,860 --> 01:22:05,790 big tech? I think most of this current outrage is from is for 1403 01:22:05,790 --> 01:22:08,310 that reason, exactly. His political expediency. I think a 1404 01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:11,100 lot of people, especially on the political left, I have been 1405 01:22:11,130 --> 01:22:14,370 searching desperately to try to explain the election of Donald 1406 01:22:14,370 --> 01:22:16,710 Trump. They don't know how Donald Trump got elected. And 1407 01:22:16,710 --> 01:22:19,260 here they have apparently found another reason. Well, it's 1408 01:22:19,260 --> 01:22:22,200 Facebook. Facebook was giving unfettered access to this 1409 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,780 Cambridge analytical, which was then targeting people with ads, 1410 01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:27,660 and that must be how Donald Trump won. I'm suggesting 1411 01:22:27,660 --> 01:22:30,270 something else that the ads didn't really have any effect on 1412 01:22:30,270 --> 01:22:33,090 anybody. What do you have? What evidence do you have for the 1413 01:22:33,090 --> 01:22:37,440 theory that the ads didn't work and thus, Facebook ad sales are 1414 01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:40,560 going to plummet? There's been great articles, particularly one 1415 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,840 Mother Jones showing that Cambridge analytical was 1416 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,180 basically didn't know what they were doing at all. And they were 1417 01:22:45,180 --> 01:22:48,810 basically selling bunk to all these all these campaigns. They 1418 01:22:48,810 --> 01:22:51,030 tried it with the Ted Cruz campaign, they tried it to the 1419 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,420 Ben Carson campaign. Incidentally, one of the people 1420 01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:58,110 who didn't fall for it was Trump. At one point campaign 1421 01:22:58,110 --> 01:23:00,810 manager, Paul Manafort who of course, we know, for other 1422 01:23:00,810 --> 01:23:04,080 reasons, and he thought the garbage it was pushed on them by 1423 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,770 donors. And so they felt like they had to use it. The Mercer's 1424 01:23:07,770 --> 01:23:10,590 campaign, but there's no evidence at all that it actually 1425 01:23:10,590 --> 01:23:12,510 did work. And I think it's incumbent on people to make 1426 01:23:12,510 --> 01:23:15,600 evidence make the argument that it did work, rather than people 1427 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,800 to disprove a negative. Well, that will be interesting to see 1428 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,040 how much that comes out. In these hearings, Mark Zuckerberg 1429 01:23:23,070 --> 01:23:27,330 up on the hill, coming up next week, and we also will hear from 1430 01:23:27,330 --> 01:23:30,780 him probably in the coming days as well. We heard from a couple 1431 01:23:30,780 --> 01:23:35,490 days ago to Daniel Halper, appreciate it as always. That's 1432 01:23:35,490 --> 01:23:35,790 actually 1433 01:23:36,270 --> 01:23:40,710 yes. Well, a couple of things. This guy is the worst. Who's 1434 01:23:40,710 --> 01:23:43,620 that guy was interviewing this? This character who is off beat 1435 01:23:43,620 --> 01:23:46,410 the guy who had the right questions. Big tech is not 1436 01:23:46,410 --> 01:23:51,030 Facebook to me. That was big tech, big tech is Intel. Big 1437 01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:54,300 tech is apple. Big tech. Tech is anything but 1438 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,170 Facebook is Amazon is Amazon big tech. No, it's 1439 01:23:58,170 --> 01:23:59,460 a big retailer. No, I 1440 01:23:59,460 --> 01:24:02,100 think Amazon is a big tech company. They put they provide 1441 01:24:02,130 --> 01:24:03,210 AWS okay with 1442 01:24:03,210 --> 01:24:06,180 AWS. Okay, you're right. There'll be a face bag as part 1443 01:24:06,180 --> 01:24:07,110 of Fang. 1444 01:24:08,610 --> 01:24:13,590 Fang, Fang, Fang, Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google 1445 01:24:13,620 --> 01:24:14,310 file, it 1446 01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:18,600 isn't Yeah, it's categories with them. But it's not to me it's 1447 01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,930 social media company is not it's a it's a company that sells 1448 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,320 advertising to make a living, it doesn't sell product. A tech 1449 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,640 company to me has a product to sell at AWS is a product that 1450 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,250 people can subscribe to you and go on there and you get your 1451 01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:38,070 webspace or your your blog, your blog, your blog up there. But 1452 01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:40,740 this is nonsense. So just the word choice starts over the bad 1453 01:24:40,740 --> 01:24:44,280 premise big tech big tech is big tech going to suffer and then he 1454 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,360 says they ads don't work when the ads do work. Those ads do 1455 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,080 work but he says why don't they work and he says his example is 1456 01:24:52,230 --> 01:24:54,690 because Cambridge analytic it didn't know what they were 1457 01:24:54,690 --> 01:24:59,490 doing. How does not knowing what you're doing? Have anything to 1458 01:24:59,490 --> 01:25:01,830 do with it now? Working. If you don't know what you're doing, 1459 01:25:01,830 --> 01:25:04,020 how can you make a judgement about whether the product works 1460 01:25:04,020 --> 01:25:08,520 or not? That makes no sense. Is this was an idiotic interview 1461 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:09,870 with with a moron? 1462 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:11,970 No, I'm glad you liked it. 1463 01:25:14,130 --> 01:25:15,690 What were you supposed to get out of it? 1464 01:25:17,310 --> 01:25:21,390 Another meme. Okay, I think the meme but I think the meme is 1465 01:25:21,390 --> 01:25:25,560 solid. Where'd you get this from? That's it might be Fox 1466 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,010 Business. I mean, it's this kind of host sounded like one of 1467 01:25:29,010 --> 01:25:34,260 those people. I think that I think the meme is solid. You 1468 01:25:34,260 --> 01:25:37,920 know, this is this is the one thing Zuckerberg doesn't want to 1469 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:43,380 come out of out of this testimony is did Donald Trump 1470 01:25:43,380 --> 01:25:46,230 get elected because of face bag or not? Of course he wants 1471 01:25:46,230 --> 01:25:52,740 everyone to think the answer is yes. But he doesn't want to be 1472 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,890 Oh no, it's a it's a it's a dilemma. Yes. 1473 01:25:56,820 --> 01:26:00,090 Yeah, it dilemma is like is the correct word? 1474 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,960 Yes, he did get elected because of the $100,000 worth of ads 1475 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:10,650 that those ads are beyond effective right. So he has to 1476 01:26:10,650 --> 01:26:14,100 try to get that message across without I don't know how he's 1477 01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:19,020 going to do this is a type tight rope walk for him. Yeah. And 1478 01:26:19,020 --> 01:26:22,020 meanwhile then you got guys like this going on about big tech 1479 01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:24,330 being hurt and but it 1480 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,570 What would you do me a favor? And would you just keep keep an 1481 01:26:27,570 --> 01:26:30,810 eye out on the on the broadcast networks, but how they're 1482 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:32,880 discussing face back, because 1483 01:26:33,210 --> 01:26:36,720 after Tuesday, we're going to know a lot more. Now this is 1484 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:36,990 true. 1485 01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:42,150 Most importantly, is how will it be presented to the consumer, 1486 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,290 because anybody has to the media can hammer this shit onto onto 1487 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:47,760 onto regular Joe's? 1488 01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:51,720 They're gonna have to, I think your initial theory, which I 1489 01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:57,180 really forgot to even consider the theory that the network's in 1490 01:26:57,180 --> 01:27:01,140 particular, don't like Facebook, because I mean, they'd like to 1491 01:27:01,140 --> 01:27:03,660 use it and maybe they take some advantage of it. But then when 1492 01:27:03,660 --> 01:27:05,220 they start thinking about especially 1493 01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:07,950 not the $1.4 billion number 1494 01:27:07,980 --> 01:27:10,950 when you do with a yes and there's saying this is money 1495 01:27:10,980 --> 01:27:14,340 you're right. This is money that is being stolen the way they see 1496 01:27:14,340 --> 01:27:19,740 it. Yeah. stolen from us. We're the rightful owners this money. 1497 01:27:20,310 --> 01:27:25,710 Give it to us. Oh, me are taken. Yeah. So they're not going to 1498 01:27:25,710 --> 01:27:28,620 respond positively. So they're gonna keep slamming Facebook 1499 01:27:28,650 --> 01:27:29,130 right? So 1500 01:27:29,130 --> 01:27:30,990 that's what I want you to keep an eye on. 1501 01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:33,690 I'm sure I can find plenty of examples. And with 1502 01:27:33,690 --> 01:27:35,610 that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the 1503 01:27:35,610 --> 01:27:41,130 morning to you John C. 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And he said the American people 1554 01:30:53,700 --> 01:30:58,200 do not want him to quote griddling either they do not 1555 01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,620 want him twiddling his thumbs, you can get a gig as a 1556 01:31:02,550 --> 01:31:07,020 contortionist, intravenous fluids and pills coated or with 1557 01:31:07,020 --> 01:31:14,850 galet genetic leave our women or women or men in uniform behinds 1558 01:31:14,850 --> 01:31:20,040 a mighty mentor the uterus of change, Representative Raul, our 1559 01:31:20,610 --> 01:31:25,950 Labrador years of a brute of abuse I personally apologize to 1560 01:31:25,950 --> 01:31:30,660 Mr. P this just asked to him soon to be from a Congress with 1561 01:31:30,660 --> 01:31:35,940 Democrats or outright Jide CIA's countering counter tourism, 1562 01:31:36,210 --> 01:31:41,940 Counterterrorism Center, Veteran Affairs Secretary shins since 1563 01:31:41,940 --> 01:31:45,120 getting Why do I always mess up his name? 1564 01:31:47,790 --> 01:31:53,640 You've got karma. Ladies and gentlemen. I present the Grand 1565 01:31:53,670 --> 01:31:57,420 Duke of the Pacific Northwest Swain melon song. 1566 01:31:58,170 --> 01:32:01,980 Hi, prep baby. 1567 01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:09,630 So Dwayne, Melanson, grand new to Pacific Northwest $353 And no 1568 01:32:09,630 --> 01:32:13,590 sense and Tigard Oregon, ITM and a belated grand dukes Happy 1569 01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:17,340 Birthday to JCD My birthday is this weekend is oh a bit younger 1570 01:32:17,340 --> 01:32:21,660 list looks like you might be I Oh yeah. Yes he is. Is this 1571 01:32:21,660 --> 01:32:25,770 weekend I'm spending it in Australia. Your shows are on 1572 01:32:25,770 --> 01:32:30,210 Mondays and Fridays here feel strange karma and a trigger 1573 01:32:30,210 --> 01:32:39,930 warning to all producers a new abbrev for LGBTQ q ia p 25. l 1574 01:32:39,930 --> 01:32:43,260 Gibbs or LGBT LGBT? 1575 01:32:43,980 --> 01:32:47,910 It's not 25 It's two s. Oh, well, it looks like 22 You're in 1576 01:32:47,940 --> 01:32:49,590 you have to exit pager mode. 1577 01:32:51,090 --> 01:32:55,830 Save time and more inclusive through wi wildcard syntax that 1578 01:32:56,070 --> 01:32:56,400 l 1579 01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:00,480 Jeebs. I liked that. The LG s I think that could work for me the 1580 01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:01,260 LGBT? 1581 01:33:01,410 --> 01:33:04,740 Yeah, it would be better than your other thing. The LG LGBT 1582 01:33:06,150 --> 01:33:08,580 thesis of yours where you're going to keep doing this live 1583 01:33:08,580 --> 01:33:12,480 actually annoyed? Yeah. Which is not going to happen because I'm 1584 01:33:12,540 --> 01:33:16,830 reckoning that you're going to end up incorporating it so much 1585 01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:22,110 into your lingo that when you go meet the Queen again, you're 1586 01:33:22,110 --> 01:33:23,370 gonna say something crazy. 1587 01:33:24,179 --> 01:33:27,269 Something like Michael Jackson was killed the following 1588 01:33:27,870 --> 01:33:32,100 Jackson was killed of course anal leakage. Use a description 1589 01:33:35,010 --> 01:33:43,680 you've got karma anonymous in the Peak District UK to 3023 1590 01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:48,870 What is the Peak District you know? I have no idea. I'm an 1591 01:33:48,870 --> 01:33:51,750 anonymous broke producer has been on a $5 a month 1592 01:33:51,750 --> 01:33:55,920 subscription since 2013. Check to make sure I've donated other 1593 01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,430 amounts whenever I could afford to and have also contributed 1594 01:33:59,430 --> 01:34:02,490 jingles and news stories I used to donate under the name of pre 1595 01:34:02,490 --> 01:34:03,690 Night of the Living Dead. 1596 01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:04,500 Ah yes, 1597 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:09,030 I remember due to in a slight attempt to keep Night of the 1598 01:34:09,030 --> 01:34:11,790 Living Dead for myself when I finally made knighthood. 1599 01:34:11,820 --> 01:34:14,430 Unfortunately however a kiwi beat me to that title you can 1600 01:34:14,430 --> 01:34:17,040 still have it by the way you can have multiple the same title a 1601 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:22,770 lot of King Johnson night John's grand night of the BOGO bow 1602 01:34:22,770 --> 01:34:29,490 golfing of 2017 the bow golf the bow golf boat right the bow golf 1603 01:34:29,700 --> 01:34:32,820 no hard feelings though because the 20 threes in this show 1604 01:34:32,820 --> 01:34:36,180 number and this donation have aligned finally to bring me to 1605 01:34:36,180 --> 01:34:40,500 knighthood. Now I can be proud to know that I've donated the 1606 01:34:40,500 --> 01:34:43,800 full price for that honor of joining the illustrious round 1607 01:34:43,890 --> 01:34:46,650 table right That ain't no cheap Jack knighthood. 1608 01:34:48,060 --> 01:34:51,930 Although at the Exactly. Although the value I can afford 1609 01:34:51,930 --> 01:34:55,800 to give can never equal the value I get from the show. Its 1610 01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,220 nose has changed his way of producing of talking. Yes, it's 1611 01:34:59,220 --> 01:35:01,920 very interesting. I'll better because he's a knight now it's 1612 01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,310 felt better to be continued to see contributing something each 1613 01:35:05,310 --> 01:35:10,650 month rather than being a douche bag. And I employ all non 1614 01:35:10,650 --> 01:35:13,560 donating listeners to support the show and value for value 1615 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,380 model and to set up a monthly subscription 1616 01:35:16,620 --> 01:35:20,040 today because it works there you go. He's made it tonight. 1617 01:35:20,430 --> 01:35:24,060 He's been knighted as Sir 20 threes night of the electric 1618 01:35:24,060 --> 01:35:28,380 See, I imagined the roundtable serves only the meat exquisite, 1619 01:35:28,410 --> 01:35:32,250 the most exquisite items and I've been waiting a long time to 1620 01:35:32,250 --> 01:35:35,700 experience the caliber of your bong hits and bourbon. 1621 01:35:36,780 --> 01:35:39,090 They are just as good as hookers and blow 1622 01:35:39,570 --> 01:35:43,230 instead of jingles. Can I please have some non goat camera for 1623 01:35:43,230 --> 01:35:47,880 myself? And my Kiwi Night of the Living Dead brother and the 1624 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:52,260 following excellent producers slaves who I wouldn't have known 1625 01:35:52,260 --> 01:35:56,220 without no agenda, Morgan bark even though he's dangerously 1626 01:35:56,220 --> 01:36:01,620 close to becoming a douche bag. Your fudge fountain Baron of Ann 1627 01:36:01,650 --> 01:36:06,060 Arbor sir miles night of the Ricki and the guys at the grind 1628 01:36:06,060 --> 01:36:09,840 Merica show. Who are these podcasts? 1629 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,200 That's the name of the show. Who was podcast? Yeah. 1630 01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:18,330 Oh, yeah. Who are these podcasts? That's a debt. Nia 1631 01:36:18,330 --> 01:36:22,740 Graham Americans not that podcast. Apologize for the long 1632 01:36:22,740 --> 01:36:27,750 note. And please thank you, John and Adam for his through truly 1633 01:36:27,780 --> 01:36:29,250 outstanding product. 1634 01:36:29,310 --> 01:36:33,600 Yes. Okay. nonnamous in the UK, looking forward to your ceremony 1635 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:34,920 and thank you very much. 1636 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,200 You've got karma. 1637 01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:47,460 Aaron Moreno the $210 in Covina, California. I do have a note. 1638 01:36:48,450 --> 01:36:55,650 I'm getting into that voice now. Aaron Marino here it is. A short 1639 01:36:55,650 --> 01:37:01,500 note. Requires glasses to read. He sent a check in obviously 1640 01:37:03,420 --> 01:37:08,490 encloses a check. A half of this is half of a 420 donation. Oh 1641 01:37:08,490 --> 01:37:11,700 good one. Although my wife and I have donated over the years I've 1642 01:37:11,700 --> 01:37:15,330 been riding the douchebag rocket for too long, please de douche 1643 01:37:15,330 --> 01:37:15,570 bag 1644 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:20,520 douche bag rocket 1645 01:37:21,780 --> 01:37:26,880 bag rockin I cannot thank you enough for the information you 1646 01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,820 quick witted and your quick witted banter that you two 1647 01:37:29,820 --> 01:37:33,780 youths have provided over the years you are solely responsible 1648 01:37:33,780 --> 01:37:37,740 for taking the sting out of the nasheet Nasty commute and 1649 01:37:37,740 --> 01:37:41,460 providing the soundtrack to my cycling adventures. These caught 1650 01:37:41,460 --> 01:37:48,060 my cousin friends Cisco as a douchebag is well is doing well 1651 01:37:48,060 --> 01:37:52,050 saving money for a wedding he cannot afford oh gosh. 1652 01:37:53,190 --> 01:37:55,710 Oh gosh. You gotta gotta intervene. 1653 01:37:56,100 --> 01:37:59,310 Isn't the wife's dad supposed to spend the dough? 1654 01:37:59,730 --> 01:38:05,370 Yeah, that's the that's the one thing somehow that hashtag did 1655 01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:10,230 last night. He cannot speak and he can save this money they 1656 01:38:10,230 --> 01:38:13,080 cannot spare some change for the best podcast in the universe. No 1657 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:16,050 jingles just a shot of health karma for my wife, and 1658 01:38:16,050 --> 01:38:20,820 septuagenarian parents, and a shot of jobs. gov for me. Keep 1659 01:38:20,820 --> 01:38:23,370 up the good work and fight on 1660 01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:28,710 jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 1661 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:41,550 You've got karma. Job Vlasic in Reno 20202 I will send a mail as 1662 01:38:41,550 --> 01:38:45,150 well hope this gets this in case this gets cut off. doesn't 1663 01:38:45,450 --> 01:38:48,540 forgive me pot follows five douche it's been four months 1664 01:38:48,540 --> 01:38:51,570 since my last donation but as I'm a Baron de douching is an 1665 01:38:51,570 --> 01:38:52,020 order. 1666 01:38:54,540 --> 01:38:56,370 You've been de deuced 1667 01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,580 these except his donation on behalf of my fellow producers. 1668 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:04,170 Illuminati. Yeah. And Nick the rat, splitting it down the 1669 01:39:04,170 --> 01:39:09,810 middle 10101 and 10101 for these two the fine folks and add a 1670 01:39:09,810 --> 01:39:12,990 little more jobs karma for the lady. I call on the other 1671 01:39:12,990 --> 01:39:16,710 producers to listen to Nick the rat and support his show as well 1672 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:21,450 and maybe even sponsor his knighthood. Also, I'll be taking 1673 01:39:21,450 --> 01:39:24,570 a trip to Melbourne, Australia in October to visit my family 1674 01:39:24,570 --> 01:39:28,680 and run the Melbourne marathon. Let's get social and meet up for 1675 01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:30,300 a couple of pops people. 1676 01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:36,660 Pops I'm not familiar with this phrase versus shadow shadow 1677 01:39:36,660 --> 01:39:42,120 whiskey pop. Yeah Nice. Alright, some jobs coming for the lady 1678 01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:42,960 jobs, 1679 01:39:43,110 --> 01:39:47,280 jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 1680 01:39:50,010 --> 01:39:51,420 Karma outstanding. 1681 01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,260 anonymous donation comes floating in which is the check 1682 01:39:55,260 --> 01:39:59,280 $200 and had a note on top saying anonymous then j and k. 1683 01:39:59,490 --> 01:40:02,670 That means under that means things move along. Thank 1684 01:40:02,670 --> 01:40:03,360 you very much. 1685 01:40:04,350 --> 01:40:07,380 And last our last donor last Associate Executive Producers 1686 01:40:07,380 --> 01:40:12,600 cert 10 CFR 50, Appendix B, Baron of the Willamette Valley 1687 01:40:12,660 --> 01:40:18,360 and he sent a note that was done in a script font nice and he 1688 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:21,180 says don't be feel obligated obligated to read the whole 1689 01:40:21,180 --> 01:40:23,520 whole note but you know, it's a good notes. I'll read most of 1690 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,640 it. I can't think of anything creative or NJ en que no 1691 01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,520 jingles. There's karma that Happy Birthday April 8. He needs 1692 01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:30,480 to be on the birthday list. 1693 01:40:30,510 --> 01:40:35,250 Ah, hold on a second. I just get there. Because it's it's an Is 1694 01:40:35,250 --> 01:40:41,670 it a note? Yes, a note. Okay. Yes. What is the date? April 8. 1695 01:40:41,670 --> 01:40:45,030 Oh, today, okay. And does he have an age associated with this 1696 01:40:45,180 --> 01:40:46,050 says nothing. 1697 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:46,350 Okay, 1698 01:40:46,380 --> 01:40:47,220 thank you done. 1699 01:40:47,940 --> 01:40:50,820 Sorry for the long delay since my last donation that elevated 1700 01:40:50,820 --> 01:40:53,940 me to bear in it. This donation was made right after I purchased 1701 01:40:53,940 --> 01:40:56,520 a house and property in Oregon. This was followed by a few 1702 01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:00,840 months later by analyzing my divorce. I remarried my ex wife 1703 01:41:01,260 --> 01:41:03,540 and then changed over from a highly paid independent 1704 01:41:03,540 --> 01:41:06,540 consultant to somewhat lower paid direct employee. Needless 1705 01:41:06,540 --> 01:41:09,300 to say the financial situation took some time to stabilize to 1706 01:41:09,300 --> 01:41:11,970 the point that I am now comfortable donating again let 1707 01:41:11,970 --> 01:41:12,510 me just listed 1708 01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,400 so he divorced he nobbled his current marriage and then 1709 01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:22,470 remarried you know the divorce. Oh, you know the divorce. Oh, 1710 01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:26,670 well, congratulations are in order then. Good work. I guess 1711 01:41:26,670 --> 01:41:27,810 you finally paid him back. 1712 01:41:28,890 --> 01:41:34,680 Needless to say the financial GMR. Most of the wife desired 1713 01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:38,160 remodeling and landscaping has been completed so now he can 1714 01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:39,750 afford to donate. Okay, 1715 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:41,610 did he get half of his money back? 1716 01:41:46,050 --> 01:41:49,020 During that period, no agenda has continued to be a fantastic 1717 01:41:49,020 --> 01:41:52,350 source of information in real news. I even built up some 1718 01:41:52,350 --> 01:41:55,740 political credibility by predicting Trump's victory at 1719 01:41:55,740 --> 01:41:59,700 the beginning of the primary season. Correct me but I was 1720 01:41:59,730 --> 01:42:03,720 nuts. But I had the last laugh. The downside of being faithful. 1721 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:07,020 No agenda listener is my lack of patience with the bullshit 1722 01:42:07,020 --> 01:42:13,170 native ads and propaganda being spoon fed to the MSM, M S. M 1723 01:42:13,170 --> 01:42:16,980 viewers. It has gotten so bad that my wife is unable to watch 1724 01:42:16,980 --> 01:42:17,910 the news with me. 1725 01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,600 Well, hopefully she listened to the show with you. 1726 01:42:21,900 --> 01:42:25,770 They listen to the weather. Yeah. Well, I don't know if she 1727 01:42:25,770 --> 01:42:31,830 does. He never says I don't think she does. Even then, even 1728 01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:34,950 when he watches the weather a scarf escapes when global 1729 01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:38,790 warming statement is made. Anyway, I'm headed over. 1730 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,200 He's got a he's got to get her listening to the show, man. I 1731 01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:48,750 mean, they've had a rocky go of it. You know, so he's sitting 1732 01:42:48,750 --> 01:42:53,070 there going, global warming, and she's rolling her eyes. 1733 01:42:53,610 --> 01:42:55,740 Now you're gonna get divorced again, if you're not careful. 1734 01:42:56,670 --> 01:43:00,060 Anyway, I'm headed over to Germany for a couple of weeks 1735 01:43:00,060 --> 01:43:02,760 later this month, and then in the UK after a few weeks after 1736 01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,680 that, I'll do my best to get some boots on the ground 1737 01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:08,700 information for you. Good, good, good. He does have one Lulu PS 1738 01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:12,480 which I'll read. Potential show topic. I grew up in Southern 1739 01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:15,060 California went to school elementary grade high during the 1740 01:43:15,060 --> 01:43:17,550 60s and 70s when California still had one of the best 1741 01:43:17,550 --> 01:43:20,700 educational systems in the country. Those days are over. 1742 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,660 Anyway. I was taught when speaking of another person and 1743 01:43:24,660 --> 01:43:28,800 myself to mention the other person first, eg Bill and I 1744 01:43:28,830 --> 01:43:31,020 yeah, that's how I was taught to. And that's the way you 1745 01:43:31,020 --> 01:43:36,300 speak. I used it earlier in the show. Yep. Nowadays. All I hear 1746 01:43:36,300 --> 01:43:40,860 is me and Bill. And these are this is on mainstream 1747 01:43:40,860 --> 01:43:44,340 television, podcast and on the street and in the office. 1748 01:43:44,370 --> 01:43:48,000 repoint Good observation. I first noticed around the turn of 1749 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:52,020 the century, but it's gotten worse and worse since then. Did 1750 01:43:52,020 --> 01:43:54,930 they change the way English grammar is taught? Or maybe 1751 01:43:54,930 --> 01:43:58,890 grammar is no longer taught? Anyway, that's my rant. And 1752 01:43:59,250 --> 01:44:03,240 that's not just a rant. That's a great observation. I gotta pay 1753 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,630 attention to that. I used to actually sitting behind the drum 1754 01:44:06,630 --> 01:44:10,680 kit is that do you have a holder for your I can just see you now. 1755 01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:14,580 So you're in the chaise lounge. You've got the drum kit angle 1756 01:44:14,580 --> 01:44:19,140 just so it is still in the middle of it. You got to crash 1757 01:44:19,140 --> 01:44:22,620 cymbals just so you get to bongos you got to snare drums, 1758 01:44:22,650 --> 01:44:24,840 you got to snare drum, snare. 1759 01:44:26,250 --> 01:44:30,720 I don't have a snare buddy get John a snare. I need a snare by 1760 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,800 a new snare and cymbals. I'm using the gong. If you hit it on 1761 01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,930 the side, it sounds like a little bit like a symbol. 1762 01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,200 Yeah, but to do the rim shot you also need to kick you need to 1763 01:44:40,260 --> 01:44:41,340 reach 1764 01:44:41,550 --> 01:44:44,820 it very nice. Yeah, but then I did I did. I'm kind of that's a 1765 01:44:44,820 --> 01:44:46,380 little too much year. 1766 01:44:48,150 --> 01:44:52,230 Too much here. The man who does the podcast with a plug in USB 1767 01:44:52,230 --> 01:44:53,400 mic, give me a break. 1768 01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:57,630 A Yeti Blue. Is that 1769 01:44:58,830 --> 01:45:01,530 alright everybody? Thank you very much to our executive and 1770 01:45:01,590 --> 01:45:04,980 insight as well and our Associate Executive producers is 1771 01:45:04,980 --> 01:45:08,040 highly appreciated you are what keeps the show going as you will 1772 01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:12,060 hear you are not the product you a fact we elevate you to being 1773 01:45:12,060 --> 01:45:15,060 the producer because that's what you truly are. That's how 1774 01:45:15,060 --> 01:45:17,550 transparent and authentic we are. You got to throw it 1775 01:45:17,550 --> 01:45:19,590 authentic in there John Gen Z loves it. 1776 01:45:20,340 --> 01:45:22,470 I love being authentic very authentic. 1777 01:45:23,010 --> 01:45:25,530 We will be thanking more people along with our ceremony for our 1778 01:45:25,530 --> 01:45:27,600 brand new nights and our birthdays coming up in a little 1779 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,790 bit and remember we do have another show coming up on 1780 01:45:29,790 --> 01:45:32,580 Thursday where I will have a full report from my meeting with 1781 01:45:32,580 --> 01:45:35,040 the King and the Queen of the Netherlands remember us at 1782 01:45:35,130 --> 01:45:38,580 florek.org/n A and 1783 01:45:38,580 --> 01:45:41,760 that's exactly what I should be doing when I meet the royal to I 1784 01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:43,290 shall propagate the formula 1785 01:45:43,320 --> 01:46:05,100 formula is this we go out for hit people in the mouth the best 1786 01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:14,940 thing I have your your request was granted in spades. I like it 1787 01:46:14,940 --> 01:46:17,250 that's a dad is a jingle This is 1788 01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,260 now this is a great jingle 1789 01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,170 and of course it actually lead it to an entire song. 1790 01:46:28,710 --> 01:46:32,280 They don't and you know what? It also has a Pepsi vibe to it, 1791 01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:33,480 which is what I really liked. 1792 01:46:35,490 --> 01:46:36,480 The best thing I have 1793 01:46:39,570 --> 01:46:43,080 Folgers in your cup there it is Folgers it took a second but I 1794 01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:44,430 knew I needed to then 1795 01:46:45,630 --> 01:46:46,410 the best thing 1796 01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:54,150 is Folgers. Nice as long as it sounds like something it'll work 1797 01:46:54,150 --> 01:46:57,270 crediting that gay Secret Agent Paul. Yeah, Secret Agent Paul 1798 01:46:57,270 --> 01:47:01,080 man. He's the guy who does all the cool ones. But then as you 1799 01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:06,810 heard earlier, we had the color the kolab the joint between 1800 01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:12,450 Melissa Talon you know famous Australian musician. And Chris 1801 01:47:12,450 --> 01:47:17,970 Willie Wilson. famous Australian beer drinker. What does he do? 1802 01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:19,170 He's a beer drinker, 1803 01:47:19,170 --> 01:47:19,860 the Fosters 1804 01:47:20,340 --> 01:47:28,140 you deal with OTG you deal with OTG you deal with OTG atoms Oh 1805 01:47:28,140 --> 01:47:38,280 gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee. 1806 01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:44,010 I like that. But it's a jingle. I mean, it's cool. But as a 1807 01:47:44,010 --> 01:47:47,280 jingle it's not quite as good as secret agent Paul's. But people 1808 01:47:47,310 --> 01:48:04,260 more people had the same idea, including Tom nonnamous. I think 1809 01:48:04,260 --> 01:48:05,790 that says a little better lyrics. 1810 01:48:06,900 --> 01:48:09,330 can find me? Yeah, OTG. You can't 1811 01:48:09,330 --> 01:48:10,680 find me. I liked that a lot. 1812 01:48:10,710 --> 01:48:14,760 I liked that too. But I do also like Adams OTG. Because it makes 1813 01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:16,440 it sound like you're some sort of defective? 1814 01:48:18,300 --> 01:48:26,340 Well, truth in advertising a. So I'm working on OTG being off the 1815 01:48:26,340 --> 01:48:29,970 grid. And there's a lot of confusion about what that means 1816 01:48:29,970 --> 01:48:33,540 to me. And what I'm actually trying to do, because you know, 1817 01:48:33,690 --> 01:48:37,080 and I just stopped responding to Twitter. And the will the reason 1818 01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:40,380 why there was a lot of Twitter activity is because I got my 1819 01:48:40,380 --> 01:48:44,790 pager in my two way pager. And it works. Yeah. 1820 01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:47,460 And before he even checked out whether he works you'd put put 1821 01:48:47,460 --> 01:48:50,580 it in a holster, you started walking around it, Austin as the 1822 01:48:50,580 --> 01:48:50,970 word. 1823 01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:56,310 The holster did clip on the belt quite quickly. Yes, I was 1824 01:48:56,310 --> 01:49:04,380 testing. And well, just briefly about the pager. The way it's 1825 01:49:04,380 --> 01:49:09,420 set up, is I can send and receive email. And I can send 1826 01:49:09,420 --> 01:49:15,300 and receive SMS based text messages. What's cool about this 1827 01:49:15,300 --> 01:49:19,230 for text messaging, is you are not connecting to the cell phone 1828 01:49:19,230 --> 01:49:24,150 grid to the cell phone network to send the messages, which is 1829 01:49:24,150 --> 01:49:30,480 part of my OTG mission is to not have my phone or the device that 1830 01:49:30,480 --> 01:49:34,560 I angulated triangulate me exactly. And the apps are doing 1831 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:39,210 this. Apps are doing it the Lord knows and the conclusion I can 1832 01:49:39,210 --> 01:49:42,780 give you the big giveaways the smartphones with the apps is 1833 01:49:42,810 --> 01:49:45,690 evil dangerous, and you got to stay away from it all the shit 1834 01:49:45,690 --> 01:49:49,230 that's happening underneath the covers. I mean, even an app that 1835 01:49:50,220 --> 01:49:52,740 looks at your accelerometer, you know, it's like how are you 1836 01:49:52,740 --> 01:49:55,440 holding the phone? It must be lying down right now. I mean, 1837 01:49:55,440 --> 01:49:58,770 that kind of stuff is very accessible. But this the 1838 01:49:58,770 --> 01:50:02,610 location stuff when I know Was that face bag that had found out 1839 01:50:02,610 --> 01:50:05,310 that I was in Bryan College Station, even though I hadn't 1840 01:50:05,310 --> 01:50:11,400 used it on my phone, or at all, as far as I know, for all of a 1841 01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,400 sudden, it says, Oh, you were over here and 1842 01:50:14,580 --> 01:50:15,900 it freaked you out 1843 01:50:17,220 --> 01:50:21,930 a little, just like it made me more aware. And when you send a 1844 01:50:21,930 --> 01:50:25,950 text message from this device, which is a business opportunity, 1845 01:50:25,950 --> 01:50:31,170 we'll talk about your you're going through, I think it's a 1846 01:50:31,170 --> 01:50:35,280 900 megahertz website. And it could even be a 400 megahertz 1847 01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:39,780 device for all I know, let me see if it says it on there. And 1848 01:50:39,780 --> 01:50:41,910 so the first thing you notice is when I like, oh, cool, I'm going 1849 01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:46,020 to send myself a text message, and I send it and it took like a 1850 01:50:46,020 --> 01:50:49,980 minute and a half, and you forget the instantaneous nature 1851 01:50:49,980 --> 01:50:53,400 of today's communications. And the reason why that happens is 1852 01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,150 this, you know, these radio transceivers in there, listening 1853 01:50:57,150 --> 01:51:01,080 for signal, I send out a little ping, hey, my little Adam's one 1854 01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,780 watt pager here, I got a message, and then asked the 1855 01:51:03,780 --> 01:51:06,690 switch and said, Okay, pings it back, I bring it on in, send 1856 01:51:06,690 --> 01:51:09,750 your message, and then it's routed through. So it takes a 1857 01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:13,380 minute to a minute and a half. It's, it's as simple as it 1858 01:51:13,380 --> 01:51:16,260 seems, when you actually witnessed that delay. It's 1859 01:51:16,260 --> 01:51:21,960 jarring. It's like holy shit, I forgot all about it. And the 1860 01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:26,130 same goes for receiving, obviously. But the triangulation 1861 01:51:27,090 --> 01:51:31,860 from a douchebag, silicon, silicon valley company point of 1862 01:51:31,860 --> 01:51:35,220 view, is really not possible for them. I mean, technically, of 1863 01:51:35,220 --> 01:51:37,920 course, it's possible. But so that's really the genesis of 1864 01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:43,920 where I started, I am a little tired of being the product. So I 1865 01:51:43,950 --> 01:51:48,330 my idea here of OTG is to eliminate or minimize, at best 1866 01:51:48,330 --> 01:51:53,130 the usage of the smartphone, social nets, and to really guard 1867 01:51:53,130 --> 01:51:58,500 myself from any general profiling. And at the same time 1868 01:51:58,500 --> 01:52:03,270 getting an I'm now discovering a well needed digital detox. And I 1869 01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:07,410 tried this out last night at the big bandanna ball. I took the 1870 01:52:07,410 --> 01:52:11,760 pager with me. And Tina now pretty much exclusively text me 1871 01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:17,250 on the pager. Which, which is kind of a business opportunity. 1872 01:52:18,330 --> 01:52:22,020 Because it becomes very personal if you only have a couple people 1873 01:52:22,020 --> 01:52:25,710 who have the number. And then it's like the love buzzer, you 1874 01:52:25,710 --> 01:52:29,310 know? Oh, must be Tina, or John. Either one. I love them both. 1875 01:52:29,850 --> 01:52:32,850 And you know, you could buy him in it too. You can have your own 1876 01:52:32,850 --> 01:52:36,120 little private love buzz network. You're overwhelmed. 1877 01:52:36,150 --> 01:52:38,100 You're overwhelmed with my idea. I can tell. 1878 01:52:38,490 --> 01:52:40,590 I think it's another good no agenda idea. Yeah. 1879 01:52:41,370 --> 01:52:46,860 Perfect. So when I checked in at this event, and I have a silent 1880 01:52:46,860 --> 01:52:51,000 auction and everything, so they and that's all done on tablets. 1881 01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:54,600 These days. It's all computerized. So you get the 1882 01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,300 idea. As you walk up, you register. You're in the 1883 01:52:57,300 --> 01:53:00,630 database, another database that I'm in, of course, which is run 1884 01:53:00,630 --> 01:53:03,960 by another third company somewhere else. Give us your 1885 01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:07,260 credit card. Thanks. Now that's in there. And then you can bid 1886 01:53:07,260 --> 01:53:10,080 on stuff as you walk past it on your smartphone. And I say to 1887 01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,260 the to the ladies of volunteers, I said, I don't have my phone 1888 01:53:13,260 --> 01:53:17,130 with me. And they look at me like what? What I said, Yeah, I 1889 01:53:17,130 --> 01:53:20,460 said, I'm using this and I whip out the pager. There were 1890 01:53:20,460 --> 01:53:22,530 squeals of delight charm. 1891 01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,520 Actually wasn't a squeals of ridicule. No, 1892 01:53:26,700 --> 01:53:27,840 no squeal. There 1893 01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:28,980 is not much of a difference 1894 01:53:29,010 --> 01:53:33,780 now. No, I asked. I followed up with follow up questions. But 1895 01:53:33,780 --> 01:53:37,530 they were it's really only two kinds of squeals of delight. One 1896 01:53:37,530 --> 01:53:42,210 is the person who goes oh, I had one just like that. You know, 1897 01:53:42,210 --> 01:53:47,040 like guys in business suit idea. Yeah. 5050 year olds. Oh, 1898 01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:53,280 that's. And then certainly some of the younger female subjects 1899 01:53:53,310 --> 01:53:57,930 at the bandana ball. Oh, that's so cute. John, they were 1900 01:53:57,930 --> 01:54:02,520 squealing in delight. And then I said yes this is I'm trying to 1901 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:06,540 so cute. Yeah, it's they threw their panties at me that just 1902 01:54:06,540 --> 01:54:11,880 loved the page. And then I said yeah, I'm doing a digital detox 1903 01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:14,730 and they immediately went Oh, yeah, right that good idea 1904 01:54:15,090 --> 01:54:18,930 immediately the market research is in this is this is something 1905 01:54:18,930 --> 01:54:24,360 people want. So in the second part of my quest, I still need 1906 01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:28,140 to do certain things I was still when I'm and I'm only starting 1907 01:54:28,140 --> 01:54:32,850 this while I'm on the road at home I'm I'm working on that. I 1908 01:54:32,940 --> 01:54:36,390 have an actual device that connects to the cell phone 1909 01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:39,360 network is just not where it's at when you're using apps, etc. 1910 01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,270 Even browsers it's just none of that. So you got Are you bored 1911 01:54:42,270 --> 01:54:44,340 already? Is that while you're blowing your recorder because I 1912 01:54:44,340 --> 01:54:44,700 stopped 1913 01:54:45,269 --> 01:54:52,589 getting this ready. Well this is the 1914 01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:55,020 cuckoo clock is that we're trying to do 1915 01:54:55,230 --> 01:54:55,950 the cuckoo with 1916 01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:04,680 you so you The minimum you need a VPN, if you're going to use a 1917 01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:09,300 Wi Fi device. And, and there are some actual some pretty good 1918 01:55:10,530 --> 01:55:14,640 proxies out there with that instead of blocking ads, it 1919 01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,880 actually installs a proxy on your phone, and it just routes 1920 01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:21,330 those to nothing. So you know, yeah, you can, you can say a 1921 01:55:21,330 --> 01:55:25,200 great gag, anything from anything from face bag, it just 1922 01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,750 doesn't come through just, it's just blocked at the network 1923 01:55:27,750 --> 01:55:31,890 level. So, so that will eliminate some of the tracking, 1924 01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:39,300 obviously. And I would say, only use a device with a browser. 1925 01:55:40,620 --> 01:55:43,860 Don't use an app, the browser is bad enough. And have you seen 1926 01:55:43,860 --> 01:55:44,940 the brave browser? 1927 01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:47,610 I've learned so much. But it has been around for a while. 1928 01:55:47,610 --> 01:55:48,060 Actually, 1929 01:55:48,090 --> 01:55:51,720 I'm very impressed with this. They have some interesting 1930 01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:52,800 things. There's some interesting 1931 01:55:52,830 --> 01:55:56,880 guys played with it. It's also gas issues. But there's another 1932 01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:58,920 one I wish I could remember the name of this, I think is more 1933 01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:02,070 impressive. It's like something I don't know. Well, the big one, 1934 01:56:02,099 --> 01:56:05,069 what I liked about the brave browser is well, two things. 1935 01:56:05,099 --> 01:56:07,889 One, it's the guy who was ridiculed out of Silicon Valley, 1936 01:56:07,889 --> 01:56:13,349 the was the Firefox guy who via donated some money to some group 1937 01:56:13,349 --> 01:56:16,409 who don't like gays, and then he had to resign 1938 01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,220 that yes, that guy was right was he was the head of Mozilla, I 1939 01:56:20,220 --> 01:56:23,760 believe. Yeah. There's Mozilla something that he were against 1940 01:56:23,790 --> 01:56:27,120 money, he gave money to some group that doesn't like gays, 1941 01:56:27,420 --> 01:56:29,490 and then he was shamed out? Yes, he was. 1942 01:56:30,030 --> 01:56:32,340 I agree was shamed out. But I don't know if that group was 1943 01:56:32,430 --> 01:56:33,480 anti gay group? Oh, 1944 01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,540 of course not. But I'm just saying what I recall, I think 1945 01:56:36,540 --> 01:56:39,840 when we discussed that we looked into it, by put a little flag in 1946 01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:42,810 my mind, like, the guy probably got screwed. That's, I think 1947 01:56:42,810 --> 01:56:46,260 that was our conclusion, the guy got screwed, he got screwed. So 1948 01:56:46,380 --> 01:56:49,320 he's back, he brings a lot of knowledge with him. And what 1949 01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:54,450 he's doing is he's reversing the process. He's saying, the best 1950 01:56:54,450 --> 01:56:58,590 place to track what you're doing is your browser, your browser 1951 01:56:58,590 --> 01:57:02,580 knows everything. So instead of just shooting all this 1952 01:57:02,580 --> 01:57:06,000 information about you through your browser into the server 1953 01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:10,200 that you're communicating with, why don't we come up with a 1954 01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,170 system that is hired as blockchain based, but it 1955 01:57:13,170 --> 01:57:16,500 actually is an interesting use of blockchain. So you can have 1956 01:57:16,500 --> 01:57:20,310 an n money flow ecosystem through a browser extension, 1957 01:57:20,340 --> 01:57:28,110 that's for another day. But the what he's what he has shown very 1958 01:57:28,110 --> 01:57:31,290 clearly, and all of this in the show notes, by the way, is the 1959 01:57:31,290 --> 01:57:34,980 profiling of you as a user. I mean, cookies, that's a red 1960 01:57:34,980 --> 01:57:37,950 herring cookies is the biggest joke and distraction in the 1961 01:57:37,950 --> 01:57:43,350 world. Have you ever heard of Canvas fingerprinting? No. And 1962 01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:47,040 apparently, this was this issue was raised when html5 was, you 1963 01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:51,690 know, becoming coming on Vogue. And, but no one gave a shit 1964 01:57:51,690 --> 01:57:54,930 about it, I guess, you know, the maybe that the hate of Flash was 1965 01:57:54,930 --> 01:57:59,160 big, or I don't know what it was. But with with html5, you 1966 01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:04,080 can actually draw something on what is called the canvas to 1967 01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:08,730 html5 canvas. It's a multimedia type of layer in your browser, 1968 01:58:08,730 --> 01:58:13,230 just to keep it simple. And then say, okay, copy and send it back 1969 01:58:13,230 --> 01:58:17,520 to the server. And based upon your specific computer, which 1970 01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:21,930 measures your GPU speed, your CPU speed, your clock timing, 1971 01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:26,670 it'll send back a hash, which is just a long number, that is a 1972 01:58:26,670 --> 01:58:31,950 unique identifier. And it 99 point 10% accurate when you use 1973 01:58:31,950 --> 01:58:36,900 that computer and that browser, you are now trackable, no matter 1974 01:58:36,930 --> 01:58:40,170 no matter what else you block, even if you have no ads running. 1975 01:58:40,740 --> 01:58:43,710 And this was quite an eye opener to me, there's a number of 1976 01:58:43,710 --> 01:58:46,980 things they can do. And this is because your browser, I mean, it 1977 01:58:46,980 --> 01:58:49,710 sends all this information, including what fonts you have 1978 01:58:49,710 --> 01:58:52,500 installed. So you know, if you have if you have this 1979 01:58:52,500 --> 01:58:56,040 fingerprint, and then you have 41 fonts installed, so when else 1980 01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:59,760 is 43. Wait a minute, that's the vorak. That's curry. So there, 1981 01:58:59,820 --> 01:59:04,920 it's a lot more sophisticated than I ever realized. So the 1982 01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:09,030 idea that he has, is have something running inside your 1983 01:59:09,030 --> 01:59:12,930 browser, so that it doesn't send all this information, which you 1984 01:59:12,930 --> 01:59:16,830 know, it's not just limited to what computer what operating 1985 01:59:16,830 --> 01:59:19,980 system, what browser you're using. It's all this other stuff 1986 01:59:19,980 --> 01:59:23,640 limiting that, and only signaling intent, like this 1987 01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:26,130 person's interested in sports, you know, so that's kind of his 1988 01:59:26,130 --> 01:59:28,560 idea. It's still an advertising model, which I'm not crazy 1989 01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,470 about, but blocking it all off. And this is what the brave 1990 01:59:31,470 --> 01:59:37,170 browser does. It blocks it blocks the canvas 1991 01:59:37,170 --> 01:59:41,010 fingerprinting. So it's, there's a lot of things you can do with 1992 01:59:41,010 --> 01:59:47,190 that. And I think that I can get pretty close to at least not 1993 01:59:47,190 --> 01:59:52,380 being abused by Silicon Valley companies who aren't paying me, 1994 01:59:52,710 --> 01:59:57,930 in fact, have more data on me than the census will ever have. 1995 01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:00,300 Why they don't ask why the census doesn't just get From 1996 02:00:00,300 --> 02:00:04,530 face bag is beyond me. And I think that as I go through it 1997 02:00:04,530 --> 02:00:09,750 starting now with the pager, and how that's set up and and then 1998 02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:13,800 right now using the iPod Touch but looking at other devices, I 1999 02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:17,370 think that we can all kind of protect ourselves from just 2000 02:00:17,370 --> 02:00:21,330 being abused and having all these companies, you know, being 2001 02:00:21,330 --> 02:00:25,890 able to control us not forget the advertising. I think the you 2002 02:00:25,890 --> 02:00:30,270 know, this was my eye opener was the sponsored posts on face bag 2003 02:00:30,420 --> 02:00:34,770 that I was happily reading, but they were all really ads. You 2004 02:00:34,770 --> 02:00:37,440 know, someone was clearly putting stuff in front of me 2005 02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:40,290 that they decided was what I wanted to read. And it worked. 2006 02:00:41,370 --> 02:00:43,920 Because you'd wanted to read it. Yeah, but who knows? 2007 02:00:45,810 --> 02:00:48,510 It's I think it's not beyond the realm of possibility. 2008 02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:52,590 Advertising is usually his shit. But memes memes work really 2009 02:00:52,590 --> 02:00:57,660 well. Yeah, so you can start inserting this stuff. And 2010 02:00:57,660 --> 02:01:01,260 there's just way too much data about us to write down to the 2011 02:01:01,260 --> 02:01:04,200 Roomba you know, the Roomba was selling the layout of people's 2012 02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:06,690 living rooms to data brokers. 2013 02:01:07,380 --> 02:01:08,760 I didn't know this. Yeah, 2014 02:01:08,940 --> 02:01:11,160 you put this stuff out. They just announced they're no longer 2015 02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:12,120 doing it. Uh huh. 2016 02:01:13,470 --> 02:01:17,220 Ah, wow. Yeah, well, those guys are douchebags anyway, 2017 02:01:17,250 --> 02:01:22,080 he but they're all douchebags, this is the thing. Everything at 2018 02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:25,380 Apple, I think is actually the best actor here. I really think 2019 02:01:25,380 --> 02:01:28,350 that they're kind of trying to, you know, just keep your stuff 2020 02:01:28,350 --> 02:01:31,080 over here and not pass anything on. They got lots of problems. 2021 02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:33,510 And you know, they have a centralized iCloud, which has, 2022 02:01:33,540 --> 02:01:38,850 none of that is good. But I kind of trust them a little bit. To 2023 02:01:38,850 --> 02:01:42,060 not be selling stuff in that manner where every other company 2024 02:01:42,420 --> 02:01:45,660 is doing it and Google with their nest and all these 2025 02:01:45,660 --> 02:01:49,530 integrated products. You know, what am I listening to what a 2026 02:01:49,530 --> 02:01:52,530 through my Sonos all of this stuff is being logged somewhere, 2027 02:01:52,530 --> 02:01:56,220 every move you make, literally every move you make with your 2028 02:01:56,220 --> 02:02:00,810 phone is being tracked. And one one or multiple apps are sending 2029 02:02:00,810 --> 02:02:04,260 that information back somewhere. Because that's the game. 2030 02:02:05,010 --> 02:02:10,110 Advertising work. That's my way of doing things. Please. I'm not 2031 02:02:10,110 --> 02:02:13,890 on Facebook. For starters, I'd never carry my phone around me 2032 02:02:13,890 --> 02:02:18,120 except rarely once in a while I do. I don't have anything but. 2033 02:02:19,170 --> 02:02:25,170 But Angry Birds as an app. And those who overheat the phone. 2034 02:02:25,170 --> 02:02:30,660 It's an old phone. And I have I drive old cars that don't have 2035 02:02:30,660 --> 02:02:41,040 GPS, send receive devices in them. I use a VPN all the time 2036 02:02:41,070 --> 02:02:45,150 on my computer, I would now be more aware where maybe I if I 2037 02:02:45,150 --> 02:02:50,370 use brave and piano I'd probably be better off. Yep. And I don't 2038 02:02:50,370 --> 02:02:52,980 worry about most of this stuff. Because I don't really take part 2039 02:02:52,980 --> 02:02:57,480 in that many things. I kind of I think most technology is junk. 2040 02:02:58,500 --> 02:03:03,060 And I don't have a Sonos, I have old fashioned gear. Big giant, 2041 02:03:03,060 --> 02:03:07,050 old fashioned speakers. I don't have any I don't have a nest I 2042 02:03:07,050 --> 02:03:09,990 use a I have a mechanical thermostat that you said it's 2043 02:03:09,990 --> 02:03:14,730 got a mercury in it. All that sort of thing. I don't I'm not 2044 02:03:14,730 --> 02:03:17,460 taking part in this scheme. Absolutely. 2045 02:03:18,030 --> 02:03:23,670 Absolutely. John, and you are you were very smart. You were 2046 02:03:23,670 --> 02:03:26,790 very smart. Now, whether that's because you're smart or just 2047 02:03:26,790 --> 02:03:29,790 lazy and didn't give a crap about the new technology is up 2048 02:03:29,790 --> 02:03:32,670 in the air. But there is a up in the 2049 02:03:32,670 --> 02:03:35,760 air. But in fact, and I don't think it's because I'm smart. I 2050 02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:37,470 think it's because I'm sensible. 2051 02:03:37,500 --> 02:03:46,140 Yes. Correct. But most people are in my situation. And 2052 02:03:46,140 --> 02:03:48,930 probably a lot worse. And 2053 02:03:50,130 --> 02:03:53,760 I also don't have an echo or one of these devices. Do you have 2054 02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:54,180 one? No, 2055 02:03:54,180 --> 02:03:57,150 you don't. I mean, so. So what I'm doing now, this is why I 2056 02:03:57,150 --> 02:04:01,590 call it the digital detox is it's actually very fun. It's not 2057 02:04:01,590 --> 02:04:06,240 bad because you don't have a phone to play with. And you got 2058 02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:09,180 to make it difficult. So I don't carry my Wi Fi device. You know 2059 02:04:09,180 --> 02:04:12,270 the hotspot it's gotta be difficult to get on and have to 2060 02:04:12,270 --> 02:04:16,020 go find a Wi Fi get a password, whatever it is. So but the 2061 02:04:16,020 --> 02:04:20,610 result is you really I can the people who can page me Are you 2062 02:04:20,820 --> 02:04:24,180 Tina, her daughter's my daughter. And that's about it. 2063 02:04:24,180 --> 02:04:27,030 And then I have one or two trigger words of if I want a 2064 02:04:27,030 --> 02:04:30,240 certain email to be copied to my pager. So I know it came in 2065 02:04:30,270 --> 02:04:37,140 that's about that's all I need. And what happens is you see that 2066 02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:43,230 half the population around you are fucking zombies. I know it's 2067 02:04:43,230 --> 02:04:46,890 not a big revelation. But it really becomes fun when you 2068 02:04:46,890 --> 02:04:48,960 don't have anything to play with. Yeah, what are you gonna 2069 02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:52,650 do play with the pager? You just have nothing. Back to you're 2070 02:04:52,650 --> 02:04:57,390 looking at other people rake out, snake. You're looking at 2071 02:04:57,390 --> 02:05:01,710 other people, like holy crap. And then you see phone, phone, 2072 02:05:01,710 --> 02:05:06,420 phone headband, headband, headband. Just everywhere. And 2073 02:05:06,420 --> 02:05:09,330 and, and you realize how fortunate you are that you're 2074 02:05:09,330 --> 02:05:12,240 actually alive and breathing at this moment and these people are 2075 02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:17,460 immersed. This is, you know, AI. Yes, we're gonna get to AI, but 2076 02:05:17,460 --> 02:05:20,400 it's not going to be machine learning and smart machines. 2077 02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:24,870 It's going to be we're going to we're wetware we are the AI all 2078 02:05:24,900 --> 02:05:29,520 all that the Silicon Valley is missing is the lowest IQ 2079 02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:33,540 possible which someone with a low IQ can still drive a truck 2080 02:05:33,570 --> 02:05:37,620 better than the Tesla, automated, autonomous truck and 2081 02:05:37,620 --> 02:05:41,040 drive. Someone with a low IQ could do that better. All we 2082 02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:44,790 need is to be able to control them. And that's now happening. 2083 02:05:46,170 --> 02:05:49,560 I'm looking at my device turn left here get into cab. Okay, I 2084 02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:53,220 will start engine I will go we are the AI that Silicon Valley 2085 02:05:53,220 --> 02:05:57,150 is missing. And they're not trying to build a brain they're 2086 02:05:57,150 --> 02:06:01,500 trying to integrate their crap to control ours. That Oh, cop. 2087 02:06:01,530 --> 02:06:07,380 Yes, that's the that's the big the big joke of all of this. I'm 2088 02:06:07,380 --> 02:06:08,220 sure of it. 2089 02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:16,830 Well, I think this is a good experiment for you. I think 2090 02:06:16,830 --> 02:06:21,180 you're maybe too enthusiastic, but in a kind of a concerned way 2091 02:06:21,180 --> 02:06:25,650 kind of disturbs me, but I'll let it slide. Alright. And maybe 2092 02:06:25,650 --> 02:06:28,560 there is a business opportunity here for these if you get 2093 02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:30,210 squealing teens. 2094 02:06:31,470 --> 02:06:35,700 Well, that was the eye opener on on the business tip is I think 2095 02:06:35,700 --> 02:06:37,980 he completely you can just call it the love buzz because it's 2096 02:06:37,980 --> 02:06:41,850 really intimate. When only a few people have your pager, and 2097 02:06:41,850 --> 02:06:44,550 you're typing out your messages, no emojis, by the way, which 2098 02:06:44,580 --> 02:06:47,550 guess what turns you into a better writer? Isn't that 2099 02:06:47,550 --> 02:06:50,460 interesting? Well, you take time thoughtfulness? Oh, 2100 02:06:50,460 --> 02:06:53,190 there's all those old pager codes that are still in play. 2101 02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:57,360 Right? But this is alphanumeric. Yeah, those pager codes were all 2102 02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:01,020 alphanumeric, right? You could look at page your codes and get 2103 02:07:01,020 --> 02:07:01,770 a list of them. 2104 02:07:01,890 --> 02:07:07,650 But this is the idea of this is this it's not like the 2105 02:07:07,650 --> 02:07:09,930 smartphone with a pop up keyboard, Tap, Tap, Tap, Tap, 2106 02:07:09,930 --> 02:07:13,110 Tap, Tap, Tap, Tap, Tap autocomplete. Now if you got us 2107 02:07:13,110 --> 02:07:19,650 press two keys to get a comma. So you become more thoughtful at 2108 02:07:19,650 --> 02:07:22,530 what you're doing. And you're sending something to someone you 2109 02:07:22,530 --> 02:07:26,040 really care about because they have your your pager number. So 2110 02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:28,350 I think if you sell them in pairs, it's like the the love 2111 02:07:28,350 --> 02:07:34,320 buzz combo letter. They cost each the pager cost 3995 include 2112 02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:40,050 anything. Battery service now the service for unlimited 2113 02:07:40,050 --> 02:07:43,020 messages is 2995 a month. 2114 02:07:44,460 --> 02:07:51,300 So your initial outlay is 3999 and 2999 forever. Yep. Yeah, 2115 02:07:51,300 --> 02:07:53,550 what about limited number of messages? 2116 02:07:55,590 --> 02:07:56,940 You can get a 10 buck plan Yep. 2117 02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:03,810 Yeah. And you sell two of them he gets probably sell two for 2118 02:08:03,810 --> 02:08:05,010 4995 2119 02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:09,780 Well, here's the thing. So these are refurbished because Motorola 2120 02:08:09,780 --> 02:08:12,300 doesn't make them anymore so the end the options 2121 02:08:12,300 --> 02:08:14,400 are but you can get a made in China. 2122 02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:20,160 Well I'm thinking to crowdsource making a new version in China. 2123 02:08:20,970 --> 02:08:27,090 Yeah, with with snappy hip colors. The ringtone situation 2124 02:08:27,090 --> 02:08:31,650 could be adapted somewhat. You remember those old ringtones 2125 02:08:31,650 --> 02:08:36,030 that you had on the on the pager? BBB BBB BBB dog I'll show 2126 02:08:36,030 --> 02:08:39,300 you my options. This will trigger some people he BB BB 2127 02:08:39,300 --> 02:08:42,960 Here we go. We have a standard by the way never had a pager 2128 02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:48,210 either. No, we have sound wave. Oh, I hated that one. We have 2129 02:08:48,210 --> 02:08:59,400 the ring. What happened? ring here we go arpege arpeggio was 2130 02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:05,610 very soft. And Astro ringabel anybody? 2131 02:09:07,410 --> 02:09:09,840 Really, cell phones had those same sounds. Yeah. 2132 02:09:10,290 --> 02:09:13,680 So that is the only other thing is the cell phone part. And what 2133 02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:17,490 I'm doing right now is I have the iPod Touch, which guess I 2134 02:09:17,490 --> 02:09:21,450 didn't know this. Apple allows you to use your main phone 2135 02:09:21,450 --> 02:09:24,570 number and link it to other apple devices so that you can 2136 02:09:24,570 --> 02:09:27,450 use them to call as if you're calling from your phone with Wi 2137 02:09:27,450 --> 02:09:32,760 Fi calling to the iPod Touch. If I connect to Wi Fi I can call 2138 02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:36,000 any phone number as if I was calling on my T Mobile account. 2139 02:09:36,210 --> 02:09:38,940 When my phone is just at home and my phone was actually off. 2140 02:09:39,180 --> 02:09:42,930 My phone was forwarded to the pager number so that when 2141 02:09:42,930 --> 02:09:45,720 someone calls they get a voicemail, I get a page I can 2142 02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:48,660 respond when I have some Wi Fi I can call and I'm still not 2143 02:09:48,660 --> 02:09:53,430 connected to the cell phone network. So you know I'm working 2144 02:09:53,430 --> 02:09:55,590 out a working out a whole strategy here. 2145 02:09:56,310 --> 02:09:58,170 I'm glad you're keeping busy. 2146 02:09:59,400 --> 02:09:59,940 Yeah 2147 02:10:02,190 --> 02:10:06,780 All my life, all I've done is pick the hits. Whether it's been 2148 02:10:06,780 --> 02:10:09,150 songs, whether it's been technology, whether it's been 2149 02:10:09,150 --> 02:10:13,470 talent. I hate to say it, this one's with a bullet baby 2150 02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:30,960 the best thing I ever 2151 02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:36,990 was getting. That's your OTG Report for today more as they 2152 02:10:36,990 --> 02:10:41,850 come along. And Tom has tons of info in the show notes back 2153 02:10:41,850 --> 02:10:48,090 to the show. It does show this little segment for the next 2154 02:10:48,450 --> 02:10:51,270 well, you'd miss out now you get sick of it. Here's what here's 2155 02:10:51,300 --> 02:10:54,510 let me You do this by the way every once in a while. And it's 2156 02:10:54,510 --> 02:10:58,110 always the same process. It's like the Tesla was the same 2157 02:10:58,110 --> 02:11:01,320 thing. You were did doozy plastic and you got to the end 2158 02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:04,320 you're working on it. And then all of a sudden, this will be 2159 02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:09,000 six months from now. Oh, yeah, I had to go back to the phone peak 2160 02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:15,570 cars. And then you will you will have a long exposition long by 2161 02:11:15,570 --> 02:11:20,520 that. I mean two minutes long exposition of why it didn't work 2162 02:11:20,580 --> 02:11:23,970 the way you'd hoped. And it all makes sense. 2163 02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:26,820 Does this mean that you don't care if we don't cut you in on 2164 02:11:26,820 --> 02:11:28,050 the pager company? 2165 02:11:29,580 --> 02:11:31,020 No, I expect to be cut in. 2166 02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:37,620 Yes, you are correct. And this is what what I do. I kick around 2167 02:11:37,620 --> 02:11:41,820 stuff for months, sometimes years at a time. And most of it 2168 02:11:41,820 --> 02:11:43,770 is nothing and sometimes it's podcasting 2169 02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:48,030 there Yeah, that but at least that that one worked out. 2170 02:11:50,010 --> 02:11:51,930 Yeah, okay. real moneymaker? 2171 02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:57,510 Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time. For sure. And I 2172 02:11:57,510 --> 02:11:59,640 hate the fact that nobody gives you credit for it. That's even 2173 02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:00,660 funnier. Yeah. Oh, 2174 02:12:00,660 --> 02:12:03,090 yeah. I just laugh all the time at that. 2175 02:12:04,260 --> 02:12:06,510 Oh, we're starting to have a new thing what it was it's called 2176 02:12:06,510 --> 02:12:10,860 some experts that back experts on the Hill needs that 2177 02:12:10,860 --> 02:12:16,350 expert from experts. Little entre monk just to get us in the 2178 02:12:16,350 --> 02:12:20,790 mood here. Apologies for the quality this is a promo for the 2179 02:12:20,790 --> 02:12:23,490 movie Chappaquiddick for some reason we have to have all this 2180 02:12:23,490 --> 02:12:25,080 JFK stuff everywhere. 2181 02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:26,760 That's Teddy Kennedy. 2182 02:12:27,780 --> 02:12:30,120 Bible Kennedy stuff. Yeah, you're right but wasn't 2183 02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:33,660 Chappaquiddick didn't also do a TV thing? I don't remember I 2184 02:12:33,660 --> 02:12:36,090 think there was that was just recently just recently there was 2185 02:12:36,090 --> 02:12:38,850 something I thought that was what we're talking about. Now 2186 02:12:38,850 --> 02:12:42,660 we're talking about the upcoming movie maybe it is the same thing 2187 02:12:42,660 --> 02:12:45,480 I don't know but just the same listen to the tag at the end 2188 02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:47,010 actually I'm gonna for this a little bit 2189 02:12:49,710 --> 02:12:54,270 edge of your seat absorbing but he never left at the bottom of 2190 02:12:54,270 --> 02:12:58,170 the rinse. Repeat either team medic material distributor which 2191 02:12:58,170 --> 02:13:00,600 is some strong language and historical smoking. Now Playing 2192 02:13:01,350 --> 02:13:01,740 Did you hear 2193 02:13:01,980 --> 02:13:03,630 the Oracle smoke? Yes, 2194 02:13:03,660 --> 02:13:07,500 that's a disclaimer now it has some historical smoking in it. I 2195 02:13:07,500 --> 02:13:11,370 guess you get fined if you if you don't think you get fined 2196 02:13:11,370 --> 02:13:15,540 but yes oh, I think there are rules now you if you can't show 2197 02:13:16,050 --> 02:13:19,350 like drinking on TV there's all kinds of little gotchas you 2198 02:13:19,350 --> 02:13:23,940 can't show the actual first sip and all this stuff. So 2199 02:13:23,940 --> 02:13:26,550 historical smoking there must be some some rule 2200 02:13:27,420 --> 02:13:31,200 the ways to look into this the way historical smoking is a 2201 02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:36,120 disclaimer. Yeah. I'm only smoking old cigarettes 2202 02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:42,330 old school baby historical smoking. I just put that on your 2203 02:13:42,390 --> 02:13:44,910 medical form historical smoking only 2204 02:13:47,940 --> 02:13:51,720 Okay, here we go. So I've been you know, as me I have this 2205 02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:53,910 thing about Brooks and shields. 2206 02:13:53,940 --> 02:13:56,700 Yeah. about them being on the same side all the time on 2207 02:13:56,700 --> 02:13:58,770 the same side of the aisle. Yeah, and just what's the point 2208 02:13:58,770 --> 02:14:01,470 is that they what's the point of having two people just agreeing 2209 02:14:01,470 --> 02:14:04,680 with each other constantly because they both hate Trump. I 2210 02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:07,800 mean, Brooks was embarrassed by saying right from the get go I 2211 02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:09,990 mean to be a great little compilation when he first said 2212 02:14:09,990 --> 02:14:13,590 all his he's a peak 25% Is that go any further? This guy's an 2213 02:14:13,590 --> 02:14:16,620 idiot. Oh, 30% of that. Well, you don't know why he got them 2214 02:14:16,620 --> 02:14:19,320 anyway, they just on and on. They won't win the primaries. 2215 02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:22,920 Don't worry about any wins. Now he won't win. Is it any wins? So 2216 02:14:22,920 --> 02:14:25,200 the guy and he says I didn't I guess I'm always wrong. Yeah. If 2217 02:14:25,200 --> 02:14:27,570 you're always wrong, what are you being on this show for? So 2218 02:14:27,570 --> 02:14:32,670 they got this guy. It was his name's Salim Rohan salaam 2219 02:14:32,700 --> 02:14:38,490 salaam, who is a looks like an Indian perhaps? who's one of the 2220 02:14:38,490 --> 02:14:41,760 executive editors at the National Review who they put on 2221 02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:46,980 with shields. And it's like night and day. Oh, the guy 2222 02:14:46,980 --> 02:14:50,490 actually. I mean, they will bring him back. Because he 2223 02:14:51,270 --> 02:14:54,720 explains he does what he's supposed to do. He explains 2224 02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:58,290 what's going on. It's good. Yeah. Why is Trump doing it this 2225 02:14:58,290 --> 02:15:01,320 way? Well, here's a possible I don't know. Why, but here's a 2226 02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:04,290 possible reason. And then he says it and then shields gets 2227 02:15:04,290 --> 02:15:07,380 all bent out of shape because all nervous shields hates this 2228 02:15:07,380 --> 02:15:10,710 guy, because the guy just was calm. So it's 2229 02:15:10,710 --> 02:15:13,170 finally the format that it was intended to be. 2230 02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:15,510 Yeah, it's finally the format it's intended to be, they'll 2231 02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:18,330 never invite the guy back. I wish they would. But let's 2232 02:15:18,330 --> 02:15:21,630 listen to a couple of just a couple of examples. Something 2233 02:15:21,630 --> 02:15:26,520 you've never heard on the PBS NewsHour, actually explaining a 2234 02:15:26,520 --> 02:15:30,000 situation that makes sense not at all Trump's just a moron, 2235 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:30,810 he's unhinged, 2236 02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:35,730 and the hordes of rapists descending upon us, quite 2237 02:15:35,730 --> 02:15:40,890 contrary to fact and reality. But I don't think, Judy, that 2238 02:15:40,890 --> 02:15:45,720 this is helping Republicans who are increasingly discouraging 2239 02:15:45,720 --> 02:15:49,050 situation and condition heading in November 2018. 2240 02:15:49,230 --> 02:15:51,720 Well, you mentioned the border. And I do want to ask about that 2241 02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:55,200 rayhaan, because the president, and the same day around the same 2242 02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:57,780 24 hour period that he said, We want to bring the US troops 2243 02:15:57,780 --> 02:16:01,380 home, right away from Syria, he's that we need to send us 2244 02:16:01,380 --> 02:16:04,440 troops to the border. Now, that later turned out to be the 2245 02:16:04,440 --> 02:16:08,610 National Guard, the President is saying two to 4000. But we find 2246 02:16:08,610 --> 02:16:10,470 out later, when he's making these statements, the 2247 02:16:10,470 --> 02:16:13,950 administration wasn't prepared, the Pentagon wasn't prepared to 2248 02:16:13,950 --> 02:16:16,770 explain what was going on with the troops in Syria, they say 2249 02:16:16,770 --> 02:16:19,410 they're no plans, as far as they know, to bring them home 2250 02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:23,820 immediately. So what is what is trying the President trying 2251 02:16:23,820 --> 02:16:27,270 to accomplish? One way to think about it is that every President 2252 02:16:27,270 --> 02:16:30,240 has a set of ideas and commitments, and then they wind 2253 02:16:30,240 --> 02:16:32,580 up being pretty frustrated. By the time you get into your 2254 02:16:32,580 --> 02:16:35,490 administration, you recognize the limits of your authority. 2255 02:16:35,550 --> 02:16:38,070 And that can be very difficult. If you look at Barack Obama, for 2256 02:16:38,070 --> 02:16:42,210 example, he really ran as an anti war candidate, he came into 2257 02:16:42,210 --> 02:16:44,880 office and found, gosh, the national security establishment 2258 02:16:44,910 --> 02:16:48,000 is, you know, has this very different position to me, and 2259 02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:50,760 I'm feeling this incredible pressure, this responsibility 2260 02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:53,400 that's weighing on me. And then you wind up taking positions 2261 02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:55,590 that are not necessarily the ones that are your first 2262 02:16:55,590 --> 02:16:59,040 instinct, Donald Trump, however, he's taking this different tack 2263 02:16:59,100 --> 02:17:02,610 where he's actually negotiating in public. So he may well get 2264 02:17:02,610 --> 02:17:05,640 this. These arguments are folks who want to take a more 2265 02:17:05,640 --> 02:17:08,370 restrained, cautious approach. But then when he makes these 2266 02:17:08,370 --> 02:17:11,760 statements in public, then it actually forces folks and its 2267 02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:15,030 administration who might want to push against those tendencies to 2268 02:17:15,060 --> 02:17:18,720 align with him to the extent possible, and that is kind of a 2269 02:17:18,720 --> 02:17:21,390 negotiating with his own administration happening in 2270 02:17:21,390 --> 02:17:21,810 public. 2271 02:17:21,839 --> 02:17:24,509 So he's trying to move move the bureaucracy Mark, what do you 2272 02:17:24,509 --> 02:17:24,839 think? 2273 02:17:25,710 --> 02:17:30,240 I'm not sure. I'm not sure what because if he were, I think he 2274 02:17:30,270 --> 02:17:34,410 invest some time in private meetings, and trying to 2275 02:17:34,410 --> 02:17:35,070 persuade, 2276 02:17:35,520 --> 02:17:37,080 he's not a good journaux 2277 02:17:38,250 --> 02:17:41,430 like guy says, a very interesting explanation I've 2278 02:17:41,430 --> 02:17:44,040 never heard before, but it makes nothing but sense. And then 2279 02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:47,400 shields responses. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, he 2280 02:17:47,400 --> 02:17:50,640 should be having meetings, which is exactly what Obama did to get 2281 02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:55,230 him off the anti war thing. I mean, it's meetings in his 2282 02:17:55,230 --> 02:17:59,220 meetings. I mean, he was just like, what? I thought that guy 2283 02:17:59,220 --> 02:18:02,250 just had nailed it. And then you know, shields didn't even 2284 02:18:02,250 --> 02:18:03,960 understand what he was talking about. 2285 02:18:04,710 --> 02:18:09,840 Shield just heard nut job alt right nut job on hinge on hinge 2286 02:18:09,840 --> 02:18:12,840 the voice in his head when he's on the hinge. He's also 2287 02:18:12,990 --> 02:18:17,010 so here's another example of a similar, like, X, logical 2288 02:18:17,010 --> 02:18:22,740 explanation that would, that does present a interpretation of 2289 02:18:22,740 --> 02:18:26,430 what's going on that actually makes sense to Trump supporters, 2290 02:18:26,550 --> 02:18:30,180 Republican or Democrat. I mean, because it would it basically 2291 02:18:30,180 --> 02:18:34,140 means that people are uncertain about their own position, or 2292 02:18:34,140 --> 02:18:37,920 their own longevity, and their relationship with each other. 2293 02:18:38,460 --> 02:18:41,700 And I just I think it's I think it's just pernicious, 2294 02:18:41,700 --> 02:18:42,150 overbearing, 2295 02:18:42,539 --> 02:18:44,849 vicious or dangerous tufa, pernicious. 2296 02:18:45,990 --> 02:18:49,800 pernicious is like a corrupt and in a way that's kind of slow 2297 02:18:49,830 --> 02:18:51,750 eating away at things. And I 2298 02:18:51,750 --> 02:18:55,260 just I think it's, I think it's just punish us over a period of 2299 02:18:55,260 --> 02:18:55,530 time. 2300 02:18:55,560 --> 02:18:58,320 Is there a danger of too much uncertainty? Oh, I 2301 02:18:58,320 --> 02:19:00,720 absolutely think there's a lot of danger of uncertainty. 2302 02:19:00,810 --> 02:19:03,150 There's another way to look at it, though, which is that with a 2303 02:19:03,150 --> 02:19:06,180 lot of presidents, you eventually have that divorce 2304 02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:09,210 with a base out of that sense that this person has gone 2305 02:19:09,210 --> 02:19:12,330 native, let's say this person made a series of promises and 2306 02:19:12,330 --> 02:19:15,810 commitments, and Donald Trump is particularly vulnerable to that, 2307 02:19:15,960 --> 02:19:18,840 because he is the candidate of authenticity. He is the 2308 02:19:18,840 --> 02:19:22,050 candidate who gained this enormous following because the 2309 02:19:22,050 --> 02:19:24,480 sense that he was genuine and not like other conventional 2310 02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:27,090 politicians, but conventional politicians or conventional 2311 02:19:27,090 --> 02:19:29,670 politicians, because that kind of discipline and careful 2312 02:19:29,670 --> 02:19:33,030 planning, and not letting things blow up in your face works, 2313 02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:35,790 right. But is that vulnerability, and he's speaking 2314 02:19:35,790 --> 02:19:39,180 to it at a time when there isn't much of a Republican agenda in 2315 02:19:39,180 --> 02:19:42,420 Congress. So then, you know, the deck is cleared, and he gets to 2316 02:19:42,420 --> 02:19:46,200 fill that vacuum with his own instincts. Nice. 2317 02:19:47,880 --> 02:19:51,090 So we actually have somebody that makes this interesting, 2318 02:19:51,090 --> 02:19:54,570 although you can tell shields was rattled. Because he wasn't 2319 02:19:54,570 --> 02:19:58,020 having somebody say, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Like 2320 02:19:58,020 --> 02:20:01,260 Brooks does, and I We'll be interesting to see if they bring 2321 02:20:01,260 --> 02:20:03,660 this guy back on. And I personally don't think we'll 2322 02:20:03,660 --> 02:20:04,380 ever see him again. 2323 02:20:04,410 --> 02:20:07,050 Do you think that that's still highly watched that segment? You 2324 02:20:07,050 --> 02:20:08,640 think people will watch that at all? It was just 2325 02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:12,180 I think it stopped being watched like a year ago because Brooks 2326 02:20:12,210 --> 02:20:14,370 Yeah, I think he's he's ruined the segment. 2327 02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:16,860 Are you single handedly keeping them afloat? Now? 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He is our mail carrier in Austin. 2370 02:23:27,390 --> 02:23:33,960 And Jason Peterson and last on this list, Sir Chris James in 2371 02:23:33,960 --> 02:23:40,890 Sturgis onward with Anthony Rodriguez 5510 Jeff Gibbs 5510 2372 02:23:40,920 --> 02:23:48,270 and Joseph van Veldhoven 5510. Now the following people or $50 2373 02:23:48,270 --> 02:23:52,650 donors name and location if doable. Dame old dame I remember 2374 02:23:52,650 --> 02:23:59,070 game old names just recently tabled in Vancouver BC David 2375 02:23:59,070 --> 02:24:02,610 Schlesinger in Rosemont, Illinois, Jonathan Meyer and 2376 02:24:02,610 --> 02:24:06,840 Xenia, Ohio Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee Joseph 2377 02:24:06,960 --> 02:24:12,060 Pumphrey in Brandon, Mississippi. Stephen or Stephen 2378 02:24:12,060 --> 02:24:18,600 Chipman in San Rafael. Meet Up. Ken Yes. Zelensky and Jackson, 2379 02:24:18,600 --> 02:24:24,390 Georgia. 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And 2381 02:24:29,790 --> 02:24:32,940 Jason deluzy Oh, who's in Chester, Pennsylvania want to 2382 02:24:32,940 --> 02:24:35,520 thank all these folks for contributing to show 2383 02:24:35,880 --> 02:24:42,840 1023 1023 1023 code is standby and 2310 23 Well, thank you all 2384 02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:47,070 for continuing the birthday week celebration for my partner here, 2385 02:24:47,490 --> 02:24:49,800 as well as for all other donations that came in also 2386 02:24:49,800 --> 02:24:52,770 those on subscriptions under $50 For reasons of anonymity is 2387 02:24:52,770 --> 02:24:55,470 appreciated because in the value for value model, which we've 2388 02:24:55,470 --> 02:24:58,020 pioneered and done so for a decade, and we're still here. 2389 02:24:58,440 --> 02:25:01,260 You are the producer, you And everyone does it in their own 2390 02:25:01,260 --> 02:25:03,990 way. The finances are a big part of it. So thank you very much. 2391 02:25:04,020 --> 02:25:10,170 Another show coming up on Thursday florek.org/in Flex jobs 2392 02:25:10,170 --> 02:25:11,040 karma for those who need 2393 02:25:11,130 --> 02:25:16,140 jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2394 02:25:28,860 --> 02:25:32,460 Just a short list sir 10 CFR 50 Appendix B Baron of the 2395 02:25:32,490 --> 02:25:35,520 Willamette Valley celebrating his birthday today as he's 2396 02:25:35,520 --> 02:25:38,550 served Dwayne men of zone granduca The Pacific Northwest. 2397 02:25:38,850 --> 02:25:42,300 And Jeff Gibbs is Happy Birthday to his brother Rick, we all say 2398 02:25:42,300 --> 02:25:44,940 happy birthday from all your pals here at the best podcast in 2399 02:25:44,940 --> 02:25:52,980 the universe. Sounds like you're banging on? Buckets? 2400 02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:56,430 Yeah, buckets. Well, they're on the floor. Okay. 2401 02:25:57,150 --> 02:25:59,460 I thought there were bongos Banaz, but it sounds like 2402 02:25:59,460 --> 02:26:01,740 make it sound like bongos but I had to pick them up now. That's 2403 02:26:02,340 --> 02:26:02,970 what you could do 2404 02:26:02,970 --> 02:26:10,770 is you could draw your sword there. Got it? Very, kinda. 2405 02:26:11,550 --> 02:26:15,420 Andrew Wang anonymous in the Peak District and Dave kardinya. 2406 02:26:15,420 --> 02:26:18,450 Stepping up here onto the podium next to the lectern right next 2407 02:26:18,450 --> 02:26:21,030 to the roundtable where we have or no agenda knights and names. 2408 02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:23,430 Thank you very much for your support of the best podcasts in 2409 02:26:23,430 --> 02:26:26,490 the university you might have $1,000 or more for that. You 2410 02:26:26,490 --> 02:26:29,580 receive a seat at the table and I hereby pronounce to take the 2411 02:26:29,910 --> 02:26:34,950 SIR 10 deaths the sunbleached knights, sir 20 threes knights 2412 02:26:34,980 --> 02:26:40,230 of the electric see and servito the mountain whop gentlemen for 2413 02:26:40,230 --> 02:26:44,340 you. Rent boys in sharp Bay booth and stinky tofu cold brew 2414 02:26:44,340 --> 02:26:47,250 coffee and cannabis bourbon and bong rips breast milk and pass 2415 02:26:47,250 --> 02:26:53,370 on June Jalen dribbles bargains and bourbon cases you'll find 2416 02:26:53,370 --> 02:26:56,820 that over at no agenda nation.com/rings Eric the shoe 2417 02:26:56,820 --> 02:27:00,270 will help you out. He's also running a promotion I saw Eric 2418 02:27:00,270 --> 02:27:04,710 running the promotion on the on the social nets. He's showing me 2419 02:27:04,710 --> 02:27:08,970 like all kinds of super rings and fancy boxes. Yeah, he was 2420 02:27:08,970 --> 02:27:11,520 like you win the Olympic medal and then you can get a one in 2421 02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:14,160 Lucite. Yeah, real metal one and Lucite. 2422 02:27:14,250 --> 02:27:17,850 So being Mississippian the next Sunday show 2423 02:27:17,880 --> 02:27:20,040 Oh, okay, well, 2424 02:27:20,370 --> 02:27:24,600 I had to go early. I have to do a show from from from oxy. Oh, 2425 02:27:24,600 --> 02:27:28,830 cool. But I think after the show I may do a meet up in Biloxi. 2426 02:27:28,860 --> 02:27:33,270 Excellent. In Mississippi for this are southeastern producers. 2427 02:27:33,900 --> 02:27:37,920 So well an eye out for an email. If you're not in the mailing 2428 02:27:37,920 --> 02:27:41,490 list. You should be for that purpose. Or send me a note and 2429 02:27:41,490 --> 02:27:44,100 I'll make sure you find out any details. 2430 02:27:44,760 --> 02:27:49,440 You know, I'm I'm I'm in the Netherlands for nine days to 2431 02:27:49,440 --> 02:27:50,040 shows. 2432 02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:53,070 Oh, I didn't know you're gonna be there that long. Yeah, it's 2433 02:27:53,070 --> 02:27:56,130 really the tussle. We're doing a double remote on Sunday. 2434 02:27:56,160 --> 02:28:00,120 Double remote baby. What could possibly go wrong? Yeah. 2435 02:28:00,480 --> 02:28:01,470 So it'll be fun. 2436 02:28:03,300 --> 02:28:06,450 Maybe I should do a mini meet up in the lowlands since 2437 02:28:07,410 --> 02:28:10,320 I you know, I think you've you're way overdue for doing 2438 02:28:10,320 --> 02:28:10,560 that. 2439 02:28:10,560 --> 02:28:15,780 Yeah, I think so too. Okay, I gotta figure it out. 2440 02:28:16,769 --> 02:28:22,289 Yeah, we can do like can we do a joint meet up on Sunday? Now I 2441 02:28:22,289 --> 02:28:24,689 know the timing does not want because right you'd be doing the 2442 02:28:24,689 --> 02:28:25,559 show at midnight. Hey 2443 02:28:25,560 --> 02:28:29,160 everybody, it's Monday 1am Welcome to the no agenda show 2444 02:28:29,160 --> 02:28:30,390 meet up all three of you. 2445 02:28:33,360 --> 02:28:34,500 Move the show up. 2446 02:28:35,190 --> 02:28:40,920 Now. They know the show doesn't start until 6pm in the 2447 02:28:40,920 --> 02:28:44,730 Netherland and have they changed time yet? No they aren't I have 2448 02:28:44,730 --> 02:28:45,930 no IDs in me. 2449 02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:50,190 I realized that I think it's only and I'd like to know this 2450 02:28:50,190 --> 02:28:53,580 from our producers. Here's a call out the chat room the troll 2451 02:28:53,580 --> 02:28:57,870 room could even got started. In America we call it daylight 2452 02:28:57,870 --> 02:29:01,680 saving time. So we're saving daylight somehow we're saving 2453 02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:04,560 daylight Yeah, but not pocket but you know what they call it 2454 02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:11,940 in the Netherlands? Really? No springtime and wintertime What 2455 02:29:11,940 --> 02:29:15,000 time does springtime start what time does that this way we don't 2456 02:29:15,000 --> 02:29:15,480 need all these Oh 2457 02:29:15,480 --> 02:29:19,410 was that during the Second World War was cold Springtime for 2458 02:29:19,410 --> 02:29:19,860 Hitler. 2459 02:29:20,790 --> 02:29:25,170 So I wonder if every country calls it springtime or daylight 2460 02:29:25,170 --> 02:29:30,390 saving or whatever I had. I had a separate thought as this came 2461 02:29:30,390 --> 02:29:32,820 to me that that's kind of odd because I need to know if 2462 02:29:32,820 --> 02:29:38,190 they're seven hours ahead now or six hours ahead of me. Maybe 2463 02:29:38,250 --> 02:29:42,480 maybe, maybe the weather is really and climate in general is 2464 02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:47,010 controlled by our collective conscience. And the elites need 2465 02:29:47,010 --> 02:29:50,610 us to kickstart into spring so we have to all think about it. 2466 02:29:59,520 --> 02:30:07,020 More I'm all over it. It's not that bad an idea could be like, 2467 02:30:07,020 --> 02:30:09,690 Hey, we got to kickstart spring. Let's everyone do that clock 2468 02:30:09,690 --> 02:30:13,470 thing fools. I guess I'm 2469 02:30:13,469 --> 02:30:20,399 wrong. Okay, I have a couple clips left. This was during I 2470 02:30:20,399 --> 02:30:23,759 wanted to just some casual conversation. And it was a guy 2471 02:30:23,759 --> 02:30:30,809 who wrote a Soviet Chinese guy who wrote a book on China's 2472 02:30:30,809 --> 02:30:34,709 Coming Collapse ethics, the name of it. And his name is Chang. 2473 02:30:35,219 --> 02:30:39,569 And he mentioned this little ditty, China 2025. Okay, 2474 02:30:39,600 --> 02:30:43,320 Gordon, straighten this all out. We get to what Ron Kirk's point 2475 02:30:43,590 --> 02:30:46,470 to the point that China really wants to dominate the world and 2476 02:30:46,470 --> 02:30:50,160 be the number one economy started to put that in all all 2477 02:30:50,160 --> 02:30:50,970 together for us. 2478 02:30:51,120 --> 02:30:56,040 Yeah, well, first of all, China has this made in China 2520 25 2479 02:30:56,040 --> 02:30:58,680 program, which would basically mean the US would have no 2480 02:30:58,680 --> 02:31:02,010 economy left because they want to dominate 10 critical sectors, 2481 02:31:02,040 --> 02:31:05,550 including aircraft, electric cars, semiconductors, that's 2482 02:31:05,550 --> 02:31:08,790 just completely unacceptable not only to the United States, but 2483 02:31:08,790 --> 02:31:11,340 to the rest of the world because they're using industrial policy 2484 02:31:11,340 --> 02:31:14,790 to do that. You know, when you look at what President Trump is 2485 02:31:14,790 --> 02:31:19,080 doing, I mean, he understands that this this current trend 2486 02:31:19,080 --> 02:31:22,650 can't continue. And I think that what we're going to see is that 2487 02:31:22,710 --> 02:31:25,650 President Trump's gonna use American power, the Chinese are 2488 02:31:25,650 --> 02:31:28,440 going to shrink back because they have no choice because 2489 02:31:28,440 --> 02:31:32,160 their economy is so dependent on ours. Trump understands that a 2490 02:31:32,160 --> 02:31:35,430 President Obama unfortunately didn't and neither did President 2491 02:31:35,430 --> 02:31:38,910 Bush before him. So I'm sort of optimistic that Larry Kudlow is 2492 02:31:38,910 --> 02:31:42,660 actually right that the Chinese will slink back into the pot of 2493 02:31:42,660 --> 02:31:42,930 gold. 2494 02:31:43,230 --> 02:31:45,240 Gordon, you know what this reminds me of? It reminds me of 2495 02:31:45,240 --> 02:31:48,300 Daniel Patrick Moynihan saying you didn't point out the 2496 02:31:48,300 --> 02:31:51,720 weaknesses structurally going on in the Soviet Union. When it 2497 02:31:51,720 --> 02:31:56,640 came to the living age of the the health problems of the 2498 02:31:56,640 --> 02:31:59,670 people in the Soviet Union. You need to watch out what's what's 2499 02:31:59,670 --> 02:32:02,880 really happening in China when you tear that lid off. That's 2500 02:32:02,880 --> 02:32:05,310 coming, Gordon, good to see you. Thanks so much. Thanks. 2501 02:32:05,310 --> 02:32:10,980 Thanks so much. Yeah, we always forget we talked about China 2502 02:32:10,980 --> 02:32:14,910 2025 before and it just kind of gets lost in the shuffle. But 2503 02:32:14,910 --> 02:32:19,350 yeah, it's it's there. And run they want to take over the whole 2504 02:32:19,350 --> 02:32:19,860 world. 2505 02:32:20,130 --> 02:32:23,910 Yeah. And why is it that we don't hear anything about the 2506 02:32:24,210 --> 02:32:26,070 three belts no road project. 2507 02:32:26,550 --> 02:32:30,120 We never in this country, we never hear about it. Here I have 2508 02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:32,820 the it's almost as though we're working with this, like our 2509 02:32:32,850 --> 02:32:36,930 media is working for the Chinese to completely subvert the United 2510 02:32:36,930 --> 02:32:40,440 States. So we can just become part of just some stooges in a 2511 02:32:40,440 --> 02:32:43,470 one world government run by who knows who I found 2512 02:32:43,470 --> 02:32:47,730 an old clip that was titled China 2020 2530 seconds. Let's 2513 02:32:47,730 --> 02:32:48,060 listen 2514 02:32:48,180 --> 02:32:51,750 back with the world today. And China has to step up efforts to 2515 02:32:51,750 --> 02:32:55,170 help the country transform its industrial sector. That's the 2516 02:32:55,170 --> 02:32:57,570 message from Minister of Industry and Information 2517 02:32:57,570 --> 02:33:00,990 Technology Galloway, who made the comments on the sidelines of 2518 02:33:00,990 --> 02:33:04,620 Beijing's ongoing political sessions, along with Vice 2519 02:33:04,620 --> 02:33:07,740 Minister a single being and ministry spokesman Dong Fong 2520 02:33:07,980 --> 02:33:11,460 meoli elaborated on pushing forward with and implementing 2521 02:33:11,670 --> 02:33:16,590 the Made in China 2025 strategy designed to transform China into 2522 02:33:16,590 --> 02:33:19,020 a world manufacturing powerhouse. 2523 02:33:19,440 --> 02:33:22,740 Ah, isn't that great? By the way? The How would this little 2524 02:33:22,740 --> 02:33:26,250 rinky dink podcast, we do something that huge teams would 2525 02:33:26,250 --> 02:33:27,240 not be able to do? 2526 02:33:28,710 --> 02:33:32,040 You mean if this was the simplest of things without debt 2527 02:33:32,040 --> 02:33:34,740 is like crazy are going along with a program. 2528 02:33:34,770 --> 02:33:37,980 Not even that. But imagine we're sitting in the MPR studios, and 2529 02:33:37,980 --> 02:33:40,860 of course, we're not running the board. We have an engineer. And 2530 02:33:40,860 --> 02:33:45,360 he's on the other side of the glass. And producer. Yeah, but 2531 02:33:45,360 --> 02:33:48,210 producer as well, producer sitting there. And then we say 2532 02:33:48,210 --> 02:33:52,620 hey, you know, we've talked about this before. The producer 2533 02:33:52,620 --> 02:33:55,170 goes shit, do we have a clip? Do you have a clip? Then? Yeah, we 2534 02:33:55,170 --> 02:33:58,350 got to have an intern go and search the database. We have a 2535 02:33:58,350 --> 02:34:00,870 clip. We have a clip here. And by this time, it's too late. 2536 02:34:02,070 --> 02:34:08,160 Yeah, the time he's gone. Yeah. Yeah, China twins were leaning 2537 02:34:08,160 --> 02:34:08,670 me. 2538 02:34:08,700 --> 02:34:13,890 That's right in me, China. 2025. Well, I'm, I mean, if we're 2539 02:34:13,890 --> 02:34:19,380 going to do a deal. Right now we're in Afghanistan. This is 2540 02:34:19,440 --> 02:34:22,680 this is a huge problem for the Chinese for their expansion of 2541 02:34:22,680 --> 02:34:25,920 the New Silk Road, which is their one road one belt 2542 02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:29,520 strategy, which is really three roads we've counted, and no 2543 02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:32,760 belt, but they have the maritime shipping lanes. They've got a 2544 02:34:32,760 --> 02:34:35,880 lot of stuff, and seems that we're blocking some of this 2545 02:34:35,880 --> 02:34:39,690 progress, wherever they want to set up shop and a port. There's 2546 02:34:39,690 --> 02:34:43,140 always some kind of issue is an issue. We're doing our best to 2547 02:34:43,140 --> 02:34:47,700 blog we really are. But Trump never mentioned this. Never. 2548 02:34:48,750 --> 02:34:50,040 Why? I mean, 2549 02:34:50,310 --> 02:34:53,280 he can't be stupid as negotiating strategy. Well, 2550 02:34:53,310 --> 02:34:55,560 so what is he doing with it? Is he keeping that in the back of 2551 02:34:55,560 --> 02:34:57,990 his pocket? He's just saying okay, you know, it was he really 2552 02:34:57,990 --> 02:35:00,600 talking to the Chinese like that saying, you know, Look, we're 2553 02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:03,180 gonna keep messing with you and Afghanistan. We're gonna mess 2554 02:35:03,180 --> 02:35:06,810 with you in Pakistan, because we know we've chosen India. We're 2555 02:35:06,810 --> 02:35:10,200 going to, we're going to mess with you there. But unless you 2556 02:35:10,200 --> 02:35:12,060 unless you straighten up, shape up. 2557 02:35:13,440 --> 02:35:14,880 I have no idea. It's 2558 02:35:14,880 --> 02:35:18,030 possible. Maybe I just find it odd that Trump who seems to know 2559 02:35:18,030 --> 02:35:20,220 everything about China never mentioned this. 2560 02:35:23,340 --> 02:35:27,120 Maybe it's not even his policy to do that. It might be one of 2561 02:35:27,120 --> 02:35:29,430 the agents, one of the three letter agencies it could be the 2562 02:35:29,430 --> 02:35:32,970 military could be the di me Who knows? Yeah, we don't just long 2563 02:35:32,970 --> 02:35:37,830 established. We don't we don't know. Well, Salah see this mess 2564 02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:41,760 with the Chinese because they keep like taking over the place. 2565 02:35:42,840 --> 02:35:47,190 Did you know that? In the United States of Gitmo nation, nearly a 2566 02:35:47,190 --> 02:35:52,830 third of all students are homeless and hungry. In college. 2567 02:35:54,810 --> 02:35:56,220 I don't believe that for a minute. 2568 02:35:56,280 --> 02:36:00,450 We're at the kangaroo pantry. And we're currently working on 2569 02:36:00,450 --> 02:36:04,290 filling orders the food bank at a university we have students, 2570 02:36:04,290 --> 02:36:08,160 faculty and staff that arrive to the pantry, and they submit 2571 02:36:08,160 --> 02:36:11,640 their food request forms. And then whenever they're done 2572 02:36:11,640 --> 02:36:14,910 filling out that form our volunteers take it in the back 2573 02:36:14,910 --> 02:36:17,940 and then we proceed to fill the order. So there's a lot of 2574 02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:21,450 misconceptions when it comes to food insecurity and college 2575 02:36:21,450 --> 02:36:25,710 students. A lot of folks believe that college students are able 2576 02:36:25,710 --> 02:36:29,400 to secure their food needs relatively easily when in 2577 02:36:29,400 --> 02:36:32,910 reality, we notice the opposite the majority of our clients 2578 02:36:32,910 --> 02:36:36,630 here, even though we are also open to faculty and staff, our 2579 02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:40,560 students, and oftentimes they're making decisions where they have 2580 02:36:40,560 --> 02:36:43,680 to decide whether or not to get groceries for the week, or 2581 02:36:43,680 --> 02:36:48,030 whether to pay utilities, even our students on financial aid. 2582 02:36:48,090 --> 02:36:52,380 Sometimes, you know, financial aid runs out maybe it's not able 2583 02:36:52,380 --> 02:36:56,730 to cover items like food and utilities. So they're really 2584 02:36:56,760 --> 02:37:01,020 having to make that tough call. So the kangaroo pantry is open 2585 02:37:01,020 --> 02:37:05,700 for students who need us. As long as they identify as needing 2586 02:37:05,700 --> 02:37:08,070 food. We're gonna be able to help them. 2587 02:37:08,430 --> 02:37:11,040 Is that a gender now I identify as needing food. 2588 02:37:11,550 --> 02:37:14,250 Just identify. Identify, 2589 02:37:14,520 --> 02:37:18,090 just identify. Yeah. Do you think that's a ruse? You think 2590 02:37:18,090 --> 02:37:21,180 they're buying Adderall and, and getting free food? 2591 02:37:22,290 --> 02:37:25,350 I have no idea. Where was this? Kangaroo? Sounds like something 2592 02:37:25,350 --> 02:37:26,040 in Australia? 2593 02:37:26,070 --> 02:37:29,790 No, it was I think, um, Michigan maybe? 2594 02:37:31,530 --> 02:37:33,960 It was I think was initially what school? Do you have any 2595 02:37:33,960 --> 02:37:36,660 idea? I could dig more information. 2596 02:37:36,690 --> 02:37:39,210 I'll come back with you with more information 2597 02:37:39,210 --> 02:37:42,150 when she does get you this now your new beat. Yeah. Starving 2598 02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:43,020 students starving. 2599 02:37:43,830 --> 02:37:48,690 Starving students? Yes. The starving students. 2600 02:37:49,920 --> 02:37:52,920 So there's one there's one news story that got a lot of 2601 02:37:52,920 --> 02:37:55,860 attention. I got the biggest kick out of it. says we every 2602 02:37:55,860 --> 02:37:59,280 once awhile talk about cruiselines Gah. And puking, 2603 02:38:00,210 --> 02:38:04,080 puking Legionnaires disease Nora Oh 2604 02:38:04,110 --> 02:38:05,760 yeah. Why would you go on a cruise? 2605 02:38:06,150 --> 02:38:08,040 Well as score which is a big cruise. 2606 02:38:08,400 --> 02:38:11,010 I believe me I said it exactly like that to him when he 2607 02:38:11,010 --> 02:38:17,340 suggested we all all four of us go on a cruise. to Thailand or 2608 02:38:17,340 --> 02:38:17,880 whatever 2609 02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:20,430 is a bunch of people out there that there are cruise nuts and 2610 02:38:20,430 --> 02:38:22,350 they love going on. But I don't know about this one and 2611 02:38:22,350 --> 02:38:25,830 Norwegian is supposed to be the absolute best of the best. 2612 02:38:26,130 --> 02:38:29,490 Supposedly, but I don't think so. The Christmas could have 2613 02:38:29,490 --> 02:38:31,500 been planted by one of the by coonara 2614 02:38:31,800 --> 02:38:33,780 by a competitor. Sure, sure. 2615 02:38:34,650 --> 02:38:38,610 A luxury vacation more like a splitting headache for some 2616 02:38:38,610 --> 02:38:43,740 Norwegian Cruise goers. Who paid 1000s of dollars for what they 2617 02:38:43,740 --> 02:38:47,250 call a nightmare. They were sanding. They were using hammer 2618 02:38:47,250 --> 02:38:51,240 drills. They were making tons of noise Norwegian son left Miami 2619 02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:55,110 March 16. a two week trip ending in Los Angeles. 2620 02:38:55,230 --> 02:38:58,680 It was a full blown construction zone that's not peaceful in any 2621 02:38:58,680 --> 02:38:59,520 way, shape or form 2622 02:38:59,550 --> 02:39:02,910 decks cornered off for improvement. Construction dust 2623 02:39:02,940 --> 02:39:05,760 everywhere. Materials stockpiled 2624 02:39:05,790 --> 02:39:08,250 nicely were hurting us round like cattle because we couldn't 2625 02:39:08,250 --> 02:39:09,600 use sections of the ship. 2626 02:39:10,020 --> 02:39:16,200 We were living 23 noise from power to listen to the smell of 2627 02:39:16,200 --> 02:39:20,640 chemicals making some feel ill the ship's captain trying to cry 2628 02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:27,540 at a crowd of angry passengers. The efforts will region cruise 2629 02:39:27,540 --> 02:39:31,320 lines responding we do recognize that during a recent sailing, we 2630 02:39:31,320 --> 02:39:35,370 did not meet the expectations of our guests nor our own standards 2631 02:39:35,370 --> 02:39:39,180 for which we truly apologize offering passengers credit for a 2632 02:39:39,180 --> 02:39:41,820 Future Cruise matching the fare they paid 2633 02:39:41,910 --> 02:39:45,870 at like a full refund for this cruise. It was two weeks of 2634 02:39:45,870 --> 02:39:46,650 anguish. 2635 02:39:46,860 --> 02:39:50,640 Some not willing to take the chance after a rough time it's 2636 02:39:50,640 --> 02:39:53,250 seen. Katie Beck NBC News. 2637 02:39:53,430 --> 02:39:55,680 Yeah, I have a theory about this. And I think we're going to 2638 02:39:55,680 --> 02:39:59,070 see this type of issue with consumers and services 2639 02:39:59,430 --> 02:40:03,960 increasing Only so in the in the M five M. You know, sometimes 2640 02:40:03,960 --> 02:40:07,320 you'd hear about a cruise ship gone awry or something no 2641 02:40:07,320 --> 02:40:14,760 problem. But it bover Well, there was that. But I think 2642 02:40:14,760 --> 02:40:17,430 since the internet became available on these cruise ships, 2643 02:40:17,430 --> 02:40:20,100 because God, I mean, we were on a cruise ship, but how can we 2644 02:40:20,100 --> 02:40:24,510 not be connected? I think that's when it really started because 2645 02:40:24,510 --> 02:40:26,250 you know, okay, so this construction, you take a 2646 02:40:26,250 --> 02:40:29,610 picture, you tweet it, people go, or put it on face bag. 2647 02:40:29,879 --> 02:40:32,429 It's outrageous. It's crazy. You're running it. 2648 02:40:34,530 --> 02:40:38,760 And then your head goes. And then you, you get all pissed off 2649 02:40:38,760 --> 02:40:41,130 about it, and you let it ruin your entire vacation. 2650 02:40:41,160 --> 02:40:44,790 Well, I will say they took there was a lot of movies, there was a 2651 02:40:44,790 --> 02:40:48,420 lot of evidence that this was a disaster. And that one guy says 2652 02:40:48,420 --> 02:40:52,410 here's 11 o'clock at night, and here they are banging away. I 2653 02:40:52,410 --> 02:40:56,130 don't think this was an exaggeration at all. Okay. But 2654 02:40:56,130 --> 02:40:58,620 still, I know what you're saying. And I agree with you 2655 02:40:58,620 --> 02:41:01,140 that this probably because when normal breaks on one of these 2656 02:41:01,140 --> 02:41:04,170 things, there was puking all over the place. That gets out 2657 02:41:04,170 --> 02:41:05,790 really fast. Yeah, well, I 2658 02:41:05,790 --> 02:41:08,640 guess the point is, we probably wouldn't have heard a new story 2659 02:41:08,640 --> 02:41:11,430 about it. But because and I could even hear the must have in 2660 02:41:11,430 --> 02:41:14,700 some social net videos in there. It sounded like Skype videos and 2661 02:41:14,700 --> 02:41:15,750 other things. There was a lot 2662 02:41:15,750 --> 02:41:19,530 of social net videos. But the one the funniest one, of course, 2663 02:41:19,530 --> 02:41:24,570 was an angry mob surrounding this fat captain, demanding 2664 02:41:24,570 --> 02:41:27,900 their money back demanding their money back and it was like he 2665 02:41:27,900 --> 02:41:31,440 had to be hustled out of the area back to his bridge is 2666 02:41:31,440 --> 02:41:32,040 pretty funny. 2667 02:41:32,250 --> 02:41:35,190 Ah, that's great. That's very good. 2668 02:41:37,650 --> 02:41:39,900 So it could have been like, orchestrated by you know, I 2669 02:41:39,900 --> 02:41:42,240 mean, this coverage could have been orchestrated, 2670 02:41:42,810 --> 02:41:47,310 have an update on the war against opioids, the war on 2671 02:41:47,310 --> 02:41:51,750 opioids, the war on poppies. As you know, we have a new Surgeon 2672 02:41:51,750 --> 02:41:55,110 General, that's the hip cool guy, Surgeon General, Jerome 2673 02:41:55,110 --> 02:41:58,980 Adams. He's the admiral who was also Trump's personal doctor, 2674 02:41:58,980 --> 02:42:04,230 and was also a board, White House doctor as he was for Obama 2675 02:42:04,230 --> 02:42:10,050 and maybe a little bit of Bush, just a little bit. So he's now 2676 02:42:10,050 --> 02:42:15,090 the Surgeon General. And he did an interview on NPR, about 2677 02:42:15,120 --> 02:42:18,180 opioids and what they're going to do. And I think the way it's 2678 02:42:18,180 --> 02:42:23,460 working is, we're going to give a whole bunch of Narcan to to 2679 02:42:23,460 --> 02:42:27,810 the states. And if you'd been listening to this show long 2680 02:42:27,810 --> 02:42:31,020 enough, then you probably made some money on adept pharmacy 2681 02:42:31,050 --> 02:42:34,770 pharmaceuticals. Because we identified them as the makers 2682 02:42:34,770 --> 02:42:37,260 very early on. And then the President came out a couple of 2683 02:42:37,260 --> 02:42:41,790 weeks ago, and he stood in he brought the CEO of the company 2684 02:42:41,790 --> 02:42:47,730 up. I mean, so that'll that'll work with the stock. It'll boost 2685 02:42:47,730 --> 02:42:50,730 it, right. And but each state I think, will also get $2 billion 2686 02:42:51,240 --> 02:42:56,910 to spend on programs. So in very imperfect American health care 2687 02:42:56,940 --> 02:43:01,740 tradition. We hand out band aids as the first thing when it comes 2688 02:43:01,740 --> 02:43:05,310 to this. This epidemic, which is people overdosing on 2689 02:43:05,310 --> 02:43:09,240 prescription opioids as well as off market stuff, shall we say? 2690 02:43:09,269 --> 02:43:11,639 What about paying for it? I mean, this is a medication that 2691 02:43:11,849 --> 02:43:16,469 that cost around $40 a dose I think that the company has 2692 02:43:16,799 --> 02:43:19,319 doubled the price in recent years, one of the primary 2693 02:43:19,319 --> 02:43:24,359 manufacturers, some devices that you use to administer Naloxone 2694 02:43:24,359 --> 02:43:29,159 cost as much as $600. And I mean, there is no limit on 2695 02:43:29,159 --> 02:43:31,799 potentially on what on what individual pharmaceutical 2696 02:43:31,799 --> 02:43:33,239 companies can charge. Right. 2697 02:43:33,600 --> 02:43:36,690 I've spoken to the President about this personally. And both 2698 02:43:36,690 --> 02:43:41,760 he and I are determined that the cost of naloxone will not be a 2699 02:43:41,760 --> 02:43:44,310 barrier to folks being able to have access to it, 2700 02:43:44,490 --> 02:43:47,070 isn't it? Great. We have Mike Tyson as our Surgeon General 2701 02:43:47,190 --> 02:43:47,760 sounds. 2702 02:43:48,750 --> 02:43:51,480 How do you weigh squeaky and it's close, though 2703 02:43:51,480 --> 02:43:53,850 it's Mike, you know, three fights ago? 2704 02:43:54,240 --> 02:43:57,630 Well, there are many different ways number one, the President 2705 02:43:57,630 --> 02:44:01,440 has asked for and Congress has approved $6 billion in funding 2706 02:44:01,440 --> 02:44:04,020 to respond to the opioid epidemic more than has ever been 2707 02:44:04,020 --> 02:44:07,560 approved in history. There's $50 million in funding that has been 2708 02:44:07,740 --> 02:44:11,820 allocated specifically for naloxone. Number two we're 2709 02:44:11,820 --> 02:44:15,870 working with ensures 95% of people who have insurance 2710 02:44:15,870 --> 02:44:20,430 coverage, including Medicare, Medicaid, and TRICARE and the VA 2711 02:44:20,670 --> 02:44:23,880 are actually able to get Naloxone at little or no copay, 2712 02:44:23,880 --> 02:44:26,730 and we're working with them to make that copay as small as 2713 02:44:26,730 --> 02:44:30,450 possible and then finally, work with adapt pharmaceuticals and 2714 02:44:30,450 --> 02:44:34,710 Calais to the to makers of at home the locks any collusion to 2715 02:44:34,740 --> 02:44:39,510 make it easier for individuals to access Naloxone at low or no 2716 02:44:39,510 --> 02:44:40,020 cost. 2717 02:44:40,050 --> 02:44:42,330 What's their incentive to keeping the price low? Well, 2718 02:44:42,330 --> 02:44:44,760 they just do it because you tell them it's the right thing to do. 2719 02:44:45,119 --> 02:44:48,539 Well, I hope that that's part of it. I know that these companies 2720 02:44:48,539 --> 02:44:50,999 I've met with the presidents and they want to do the right thing, 2721 02:44:51,209 --> 02:44:53,459 but also strictly from an economic point of view. 2722 02:44:53,759 --> 02:44:56,729 Unfortunately, there are so many people out there that need 2723 02:44:56,729 --> 02:44:59,999 Naloxone, that they are going to make their money one way or the 2724 02:44:59,999 --> 02:45:02,459 Other than I think they want to do the right thing, they just 2725 02:45:02,459 --> 02:45:05,129 want to do it in a way that helps them sustain their bottom 2726 02:45:05,129 --> 02:45:09,179 line. And they can do that we can cut the price significantly 2727 02:45:09,209 --> 02:45:12,299 and still make money for them and save lives. And that's what 2728 02:45:12,299 --> 02:45:12,959 we're trying to do. 2729 02:45:13,140 --> 02:45:15,630 I'm gonna ladies, man. That's what it sounds like, 2730 02:45:15,630 --> 02:45:18,240 you know, that guy didn't have such a pronounced list. You 2731 02:45:18,240 --> 02:45:20,880 know, when he gave his presentation about the 2732 02:45:21,000 --> 02:45:23,670 President's health? What happened? I don't know. He lose 2733 02:45:23,670 --> 02:45:24,240 a tooth? 2734 02:45:26,460 --> 02:45:31,590 I don't know. I really don't know. She had a second part to 2735 02:45:31,590 --> 02:45:34,980 this. Yeah, this is just continuing the update. 2736 02:45:35,010 --> 02:45:39,420 You described this measure making Naloxone more readily 2737 02:45:39,420 --> 02:45:43,710 available as a as a tourniquet as a life saving measure and 2738 02:45:44,310 --> 02:45:48,930 knowledge that the key though is figuring out what to do with 2739 02:45:48,930 --> 02:45:54,510 that person. After this emergency crisis, like, yes, you 2740 02:45:54,510 --> 02:45:57,840 can administer this and they can live another day. But how do you 2741 02:45:57,840 --> 02:46:00,870 make sure that person doesn't overdose 24 hours later? 2742 02:46:01,530 --> 02:46:05,250 Well, folks want to say unfortunately, in far too many 2743 02:46:05,250 --> 02:46:08,970 cases that the individual has failed. But when a person is 2744 02:46:08,970 --> 02:46:11,370 coming in from multiple overdoses, I see that as a 2745 02:46:11,370 --> 02:46:14,940 system failure. We know addiction is a chronic disease, 2746 02:46:15,300 --> 02:46:17,610 much like diabetes or hypertension, and we need to 2747 02:46:17,610 --> 02:46:21,510 treat it the same way. So I'm focused a Surgeon General, on 2748 02:46:21,510 --> 02:46:24,210 making sure everyone see the addiction not as a moral 2749 02:46:24,210 --> 02:46:27,270 failing, but as a chronic disease. And that we have good 2750 02:46:27,570 --> 02:46:30,000 evidence based treatment, including medication assisted 2751 02:46:30,000 --> 02:46:33,120 treatment available for individuals with a warm handoff 2752 02:46:33,120 --> 02:46:36,810 right from the overdose, we can't have someone overdose and 2753 02:46:36,810 --> 02:46:39,150 then send them out onto the streets at 2am. Because they're 2754 02:46:39,150 --> 02:46:41,880 going to run right back into the hands of the local drug dealer 2755 02:46:41,940 --> 02:46:44,940 will explain with that moment, the warm handoff moment. warm 2756 02:46:45,360 --> 02:46:49,080 handoff means you come in at 3am in the morning, having been 2757 02:46:49,080 --> 02:46:53,190 resuscitated from an overdose. And we have either an immediate 2758 02:46:53,280 --> 02:46:57,030 access to treatment available for you or what's working well 2759 02:46:57,030 --> 02:47:00,120 in many places, including Rhode Island where I just visited is a 2760 02:47:00,120 --> 02:47:04,200 peer recovery coach, someone who has been through this before and 2761 02:47:04,200 --> 02:47:07,260 who can speak to you in a language that will resonate and 2762 02:47:07,290 --> 02:47:11,700 will basically be with you until you can get into recovery. Yeah, 2763 02:47:11,760 --> 02:47:14,670 warm handoff. That'll do it tourniquet, and then a warm 2764 02:47:14,670 --> 02:47:15,390 handoff. 2765 02:47:16,170 --> 02:47:18,930 That's what everybody needs. And Kleenex. 2766 02:47:19,260 --> 02:47:25,200 Again, no strategy, no strategy. There's no strategy. And if I 2767 02:47:25,200 --> 02:47:28,950 were Narcan or adopt pharma, and it's it's a generic, you know, 2768 02:47:28,950 --> 02:47:30,390 it's I think the patent is off. 2769 02:47:31,170 --> 02:47:34,350 Well, the name we can make it. Yeah. Theoretically, yes. 2770 02:47:34,350 --> 02:47:38,130 Well, what so then why wouldn't you just, you know, spread some 2771 02:47:38,130 --> 02:47:40,530 fentanyl around and make some generic 2772 02:47:41,820 --> 02:47:45,840 naloxone? Yeah. Sounds like a plan. I think it's another no 2773 02:47:45,840 --> 02:47:47,100 agenda business idea. 2774 02:47:47,850 --> 02:47:52,380 Yeah. Okay. Try one more to play us up. 2775 02:47:52,860 --> 02:47:57,000 I got the 23 and me, Redux from CBS. Which is kind of 2776 02:47:57,000 --> 02:48:00,870 interesting. Oh, is this is new news about them? It's just some 2777 02:48:00,870 --> 02:48:03,300 more. Catching is kvetching? 2778 02:48:03,390 --> 02:48:06,960 Well, the popularity of at homes to screen for diseases is 2779 02:48:06,960 --> 02:48:10,110 growing. We're looking at the benefits and drawbacks this 2780 02:48:10,110 --> 02:48:13,680 morning in our series Grand Rounds. That's the practice of 2781 02:48:13,680 --> 02:48:16,290 medical professionals teaching other doctors about 2782 02:48:16,290 --> 02:48:19,950 advancements. This month, the FDA approved the first direct to 2783 02:48:19,950 --> 02:48:23,670 consumer tests in the US that's designed to find three June gene 2784 02:48:23,670 --> 02:48:26,430 mutations linked to breast cancer without a doctor's 2785 02:48:26,430 --> 02:48:29,640 prescription. This is just the latest in a growing number of 2786 02:48:29,640 --> 02:48:33,030 cheaper and easier genetic tests that can reveal information 2787 02:48:33,030 --> 02:48:36,960 about your ancestors risks for certain diseases, or even why 2788 02:48:36,960 --> 02:48:40,200 you're sensitive to bitter taste. Some tests can be done 2789 02:48:40,200 --> 02:48:44,790 for less than $100. Our David Vegas is here with more. And 2790 02:48:44,790 --> 02:48:47,640 let's talk about 23. And me, I've actually done it and I want 2791 02:48:47,640 --> 02:48:51,150 to ask you about that later. Yeah. What can it predict? 2792 02:48:51,150 --> 02:48:55,170 Exactly? And what are some of the concerns that doctors have 2793 02:48:55,170 --> 02:48:55,650 about it? 2794 02:48:55,800 --> 02:48:57,990 Well, I can tell you your ancestry, they could tell you 2795 02:48:57,990 --> 02:49:00,480 what how you metabolize caffeine, but it's not going to 2796 02:49:00,480 --> 02:49:03,450 tell you some of the really serious health traits that you 2797 02:49:03,450 --> 02:49:06,720 probably care about. So they just got FDA approval for three 2798 02:49:06,750 --> 02:49:10,920 of over 1000 mutations that can cause breast and ovarian cancer. 2799 02:49:11,190 --> 02:49:13,350 That's only three of them. So what worries me is that if you 2800 02:49:13,350 --> 02:49:16,230 take it, not at high risk, but you may have one of the other 2801 02:49:16,230 --> 02:49:20,610 900 Plus, there are other at home tests that require a doctor 2802 02:49:20,610 --> 02:49:23,310 to sign off on it. But you could do it at home, you spit into a 2803 02:49:23,310 --> 02:49:27,030 tube you send it in that could look for all of the mutations in 2804 02:49:27,030 --> 02:49:31,050 the BRCA one and BRCA tune to gene which is risk for breast 2805 02:49:31,050 --> 02:49:33,630 and ovarian cancer. Remember when Angelina Jolie, you know, 2806 02:49:33,630 --> 02:49:36,960 heroically announced I have this gene five years ago, it was 2807 02:49:36,960 --> 02:49:40,860 $4,000 for the test. Now it's been democratized for less than 2808 02:49:40,860 --> 02:49:41,640 100. Yeah, that 2809 02:49:41,640 --> 02:49:44,370 is incredible. Should everyone including men consider getting 2810 02:49:44,370 --> 02:49:45,540 tested for the blockchain? 2811 02:49:45,630 --> 02:49:48,240 Men are just as likely as women to be carriers of the bracha 2812 02:49:48,240 --> 02:49:51,720 gene. And so I'm a believer, yes, knowledge is power. If you 2813 02:49:51,720 --> 02:49:54,990 have it, you want to intervene 70 plus percent chance of breast 2814 02:49:54,990 --> 02:49:58,920 cancer 40 plus percent chance of ovarian cancer both of which can 2815 02:49:58,920 --> 02:50:02,550 dramatically change your life and your family's life so yes I 2816 02:50:02,550 --> 02:50:03,390 believe you should 2817 02:50:03,420 --> 02:50:05,970 David you just said you spit into a tube but let me tell you 2818 02:50:05,970 --> 02:50:08,100 when I did 23 me it's a whole lot of 2819 02:50:08,100 --> 02:50:11,550 fittings so how I seem to do it I know I 2820 02:50:11,550 --> 02:50:14,130 can do it I can. I can it was not a problem. 2821 02:50:15,509 --> 02:50:21,449 Thanks for the overt sexual overtones okay, I get it. Great 2822 02:50:21,449 --> 02:50:25,559 clip. Good one. Not even a borderline but you got the you 2823 02:50:25,559 --> 02:50:29,279 got the charcoal you got the Chuckle you deserve to do 2824 02:50:29,519 --> 02:50:32,669 alright everybody we will return on Thursday with another episode 2825 02:50:32,669 --> 02:50:36,899 of the no agenda show it is your best podcast in the universe. In 2826 02:50:36,899 --> 02:50:41,009 fact, and you never know what happened until then, of course 2827 02:50:41,009 --> 02:50:45,539 today is a show day so eyes and ears peeled and open. And 2828 02:50:45,539 --> 02:50:48,959 Thursday's program will come to you post meeting with the King 2829 02:50:48,959 --> 02:50:52,559 and Queen of the Netherlands. And I will be in the lowlands 2830 02:50:52,559 --> 02:50:54,959 itself in the garden eartips word with 2831 02:50:55,980 --> 02:51:01,710 a report from the EU. Yes, an update German Empire update from 2832 02:51:01,710 --> 02:51:02,880 the German Empire 2833 02:51:04,920 --> 02:51:07,440 coming to you from downtown Austin Texas. We are the capital 2834 02:51:07,440 --> 02:51:10,890 the drone Star State FEMA Region six on the governmental maps in 2835 02:51:10,890 --> 02:51:13,560 the five by nine Pluto in the common law condo in the morning 2836 02:51:13,560 --> 02:51:15,390 everybody my name is Adam curry 2837 02:51:15,420 --> 02:51:18,690 in from Northern Silicon Valley, which is in the California 2838 02:51:18,750 --> 02:51:22,290 empire. I'm John C. Dvorak we return 2839 02:51:22,350 --> 02:51:30,330 on Thursday until then, as always, adios mofos I need a 2840 02:51:30,330 --> 02:51:38,580 taxi that they 2841 02:51:40,020 --> 02:51:47,490 donate to no agenda they give us as we enter we donate to with no 2842 02:51:47,490 --> 02:51:55,350 agenda is to show this really unique. Donate to know this the 2843 02:51:55,350 --> 02:52:02,430 John Adams be donate to a no agenda sciences turning into a 2844 02:52:02,430 --> 02:52:03,270 clique. 2845 02:52:03,690 --> 02:52:08,790 Pumped, I'm pumped, I'm pumped, I'm pumped, pumped and pumped 2846 02:52:08,790 --> 02:52:09,810 and pumped and pumped, 2847 02:52:10,890 --> 02:52:12,840 pumped, pumped and pumped. 2848 02:52:14,970 --> 02:52:19,770 We cannot surrender to those who wants to weaken or invalidate 2849 02:52:20,490 --> 02:52:25,860 the transatlantic bond without global order LPs and not 2850 02:52:25,860 --> 02:52:26,640 survive. 2851 02:52:28,980 --> 02:52:31,830 Actually, what we're hearing is the true nature of the European 2852 02:52:31,830 --> 02:52:35,190 project, which is genuine anti Americanism. 2853 02:52:38,910 --> 02:52:42,330 Centralization makes it easier to integrate into a one world 2854 02:52:42,330 --> 02:52:47,490 government. Moloch 2855 02:52:47,940 --> 02:52:50,850 Moloch Moloch just setting the record straight here who are 2856 02:52:50,850 --> 02:52:56,400 closest and strongest ally is Milan for medium to a Maka 2857 02:52:56,400 --> 02:52:57,810 phobia Rocco 2858 02:52:58,080 --> 02:52:59,640 WaPo Yeah, WaPo 2859 02:53:02,220 --> 02:53:05,160 bla bla bla bla bla bla. Gorka. 2860 02:53:05,640 --> 02:53:10,890 Gorgeous, gorgeous EJ John John drew John. John Roos mo Darren, 2861 02:53:10,920 --> 02:53:22,200 Mr. Darren d mod or WaPo WaPo. By Maka phobia. Can't aliens are 2862 02:53:22,230 --> 02:53:25,740 helping us Canadians are good. Victoria. BC is the prettiest 2863 02:53:25,740 --> 02:53:27,600 town on the West Coast period. 2864 02:53:28,110 --> 02:53:29,040 I'm gonna move up there. 2865 02:53:29,250 --> 02:53:32,130 I'm done. It's the prettiest place you've ever seen. It's got 2866 02:53:32,130 --> 02:53:34,260 a little Chinatown. It's unbelievable. 2867 02:53:34,680 --> 02:53:38,910 Poland. Still no change for you. We really don't care about you. 2868 02:53:42,690 --> 02:53:48,750 Moloch Moloch Moloch for medium for Maka phobia. WaPo. WaPo? 2869 02:53:48,930 --> 02:53:55,650 Yeah, WaPo blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Gorka. WaPo 2870 02:53:55,650 --> 02:54:00,300 gorgeous Gorsuch, John John Drew, John Drew, John Drew, Timo 2871 02:54:00,300 --> 02:54:07,950 Darren in margarine demoed or a murderer and make a donation to 2872 02:54:07,950 --> 02:54:12,090 the Scott M Memorial Fund make a donation to the Scott M Memorial 2873 02:54:12,090 --> 02:54:17,520 Fund and make a donation to the Scott M Memorial Fund. With OTG 2874 02:54:18,960 --> 02:54:30,750 with OTG you deal with OTG Adams OTG you deal with OTG Digi you 2875 02:54:30,750 --> 02:55:10,800 deal with OTG propaganda should we be concerned It's great to 2876 02:55:10,800 --> 02:55:34,710 serve the concerns researchers should we be concerned 2877 02:55:36,480 --> 02:56:40,530 propaganda again at the end of the day my clicker class by the 2878 02:56:40,530 --> 02:56:44,910 end of the day go to the lengths of setting up a server at the 2879 02:56:44,910 --> 02:57:02,640 end of the day should have been the last request by the 2880 02:57:02,640 --> 02:57:43,980 Secretary request by request Secretary broadcast is over 2881 02:57:43,980 --> 02:57:53,580 MoPhO vorak.org/in A yo I almost bought one that the wise