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Citizens of the globe the earth
is my is my home. I'm Ally live

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on Earth. Adam curry,

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John C. Dvorak. April 5 2018
This is your award winning give

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donation media assassination
episode 1022. This is no agenda,

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celebrating Double Magic digits
around the sun and broadcasting

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live from the capital of the
drone Star State downtown Austin

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Tejas in the clue to the Morning
everybody. I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where we missed the Zephyr and

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John C. Dvorak. Robin Buzzkill.
Oh, wow. Short Sweezy show az

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az az Well, ladies and
gentlemen, can you spin around

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the Sun two times 33 times.
Happy Birthday My friend Have

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you received any gifts yet for
your birthday? Sorry, Have you

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received any gifts yet?

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I got one right here. I'm
playing it.

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God that's not a gift. That's a
curse who gave that to you? gave

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that to you?

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Maybe did oh,

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what is she trying to be cute?

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We're gonna start a new Bongo
beat poetry podcast as I know

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that'll pack it in.

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Exactly. So you're gonna do the
bongos Mimi will do the poetry

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and then Jay will be doing
finger snaps.

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Yes. Got it? Well, you know we
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go go t

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that will look so good on you
know, we have many, many

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producers from around the globe
of different professions and

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different skill sets. And one of
our I think she was an Associate

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Executive producer on the last
show. Melissa Talon you familiar

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with her? No, she was the one
that said that after years of

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being signed to major labels
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I remember her yes

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yes so she's She's actually
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yeah there's a lot

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of talented people Yeah,

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but yeah like chick behind the
piano type cool talented. Okay

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one of those and guess what she
sent something in for your

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birthday ah terrific we love no
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to start because we really love

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we're rethinking

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the phrase from the chaise
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Well, she can sing ah

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and your what's great is like if
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like a radio station or even a
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show in order to get something
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you know, get a right it's you
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You got to talk to the guy we
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we're getting

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a call from ASCAP immediately.
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we probably will. Think about
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It's a parody. Yeah. Yeah, that
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totally legal parody. And yes,

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but you're not absconded from
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much, Melissa Talon from
Australia. You made my day?

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Yeah. Next week boy she's great.
She'll do she should do well as

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an independent you

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should check her out on the
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she's got some good stuff almost
as good as as the that chick

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from Iran Yeah. Oh my goodness.
Was this a doozy or what?

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Well I was a jam and as you
know, we I got some nasty note

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from one of our producers saying
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something happened this is area
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who cares? Oh, and so he says I
should buy this is local who

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cares you're just gonna mocking
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looked at fine thing is this is
not a local stripe because it

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involves YouTube. And it
involves they're scared changing

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their policies and screwing all
these people they suckered into,

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like hoping to make a living.
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Well, thank you. Thank you.
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immediate issue that isn't being
discussed. Of course we're not

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talking about gun control or
anything about like that or how

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white man or horror A bull or
arm who won't white man or

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terrorist? What I saw is exactly
what you just mentioned is Wait

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a minute, YouTube, and also
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believe me, this is not about D
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part I'm sure she was making
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point. When you get d monetized
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count goes down. This is what
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channels being closed
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is addictive. And when people
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go over the edge. And I think
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careful, particularly with
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particularly with YouTube,
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of effort into that. And, you
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believe that her you know,
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groundbreaking moneymaker for
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operates. But, you know, it was
the addiction that was she was

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being cut off. It's like It's
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No, she's she looked like one. I
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Can I do one first? I have a
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Times. And the reason I want to
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a Dutch guy doing the voiceover.
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that means you can mock it.
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Why would the New York Times
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video that

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you're talking about this crappy
videos they put online? Yeah.

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Representing the paper. Yes,
exactly. Do you get it either

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they have they have these?
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could get a reasonable
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somebody on the staff that can
do it. But they just bring any

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old schlub they can. And you
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every once awhile. There's
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but the most of the I don't
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a good voice. Oh, yeah, go
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I think what happened here? I
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because Dutch guy I know a lot
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editors, and he's probably
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working on stuff. And then they
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don't have anybody so I did
voice myself. Hi, everybody, and

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all and I'm on to the New York
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do YouTube shooter Nassima dumb
was widely known on the radio

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social media as Nasima subs,
which means green in the scene.

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Because of her advocacy for
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and veganism. veganism. Her
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her relatively famous among
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Instagram influencers. For
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where she explains the
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vegetarianism and being vegan.
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the benefits of eating a papaya.
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videos here is what

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do you think of it so far? Do
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I think that maybe this will set
a trend and kind of remove that

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British sounding newsreaders.
We're going for this and replace

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it with these Dutch guys,

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I have a career. Finally, I can
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where she's wearing a revealing
purple dress, don't believe what

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you see is a message appearing
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time being discriminated and
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the only one. And if you go and
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new videos hardly get views.

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She also resizes YouTube and you
make some physical protests a

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year ago by going on the streets
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picture of herself holding up a
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dictatorship. And then there's a
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you will in the life. She had
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ago. In that video, she explains
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member of the Baha'i Faith,
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Iran. She doesn't really like
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she literally says, In Iran,
they kill you by x. But in the

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United States, they kill you
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for saying that she's dying a
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when it comes

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to free speech. Anything that
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Iran. She was also repeatedly
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comments. Many Iranian users in
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and tell her that she's crazy.
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she's doing very well and that
it's actually the people who are

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making those comments more
mentally ill. She also

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criticizes Instagram by saying
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She actually has several
Instagram accounts. She also had

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a telegram channel before she
attacked the YouTube office and

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subsequently killed herself one
of For last post there is a

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child who photo of herself
posing between flowers with one

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flower stuck in her hair.

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I'm telling you, he also wrote
it. He wrote it as well. I can

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tell. You wrote the copy. You
wrote it. Yes. That's crazy. I

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thought that was one way to get
the info was a different type of

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report.

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Yeah, I think we should just go
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I hope they do more. We did have
a producer at YouTube boots on

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the ground if you're interested.
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your smacking your lips

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I am. Because it's the first
it's the birthday cake. It

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wasn't easy for me to judge
since I've only got look at the

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perpetrator holding the gun
before I ran for it. However,

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they looked very serious. They
were dressed in black and he

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says they I asked him so why did
you say they were there more

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than one shooter? He says no,
no. That's just how we talk

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here. I said it's Z. Okay. You
got to do it. Right.

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That's a good way to confuse the
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Yeah. They were dressed in
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and my coworker who I met up
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was a woman with at least part
of her face covered. The

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perpetrator was holding the gun
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sort of way I believe you're
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very loud popping, I looked up
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described I was fortunate, quote
unquote, to be sitting at the

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table closest to the lobby doors
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the center of the patio area, an
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at a downwards angle she could
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feet from the victims that got
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requires badges to enter which
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one second but still felt like
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the lobby, but I think many
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the side entrance where you
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that's mostly it from my
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the shooter got in it wouldn't
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someone to the outside entrance
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familiar with the layout or
lucky they could have just gone

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through the garage complex to
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the patio. There's a heavy door
but for some reason the badge is

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only needed to get into the
garage on the patio, not vice

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versa. And that turns out to be
the way she got in actually. So

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that was a security flaw right
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Well, I have a couple of those.
I got them. Let's start with the

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last report. This one came out
last night on a local TV and

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this is the YouTube last shooter
report with a low opinion as

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each

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hour passes. There are more
revelations about the YouTube

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shooter This is our YouTube
channel and the same OG DOM was

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extremely bitter with the San
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changed its policy and
ultimately paid her less for her

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content. As you might know
YouTube pays people who have a

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big online following are dumb
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YouTube's new payment structure.
Plenty of people worldwide are

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accusing the company of unfair
business practice, but do they

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have a valid gripe and BC bears
Cinelli joins us at YouTube

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headquarters with the latest
details James Raj lots

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of people who have YouTube
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by the company are costing them
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some have taken legal action

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with I'm being discriminated and
filtered on YouTube. Nasim

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Aghdam

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was angry with YouTube over new
policies that made it harder to

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make money from her videos. It
could be why she walked onto the

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San Bruno campus and shot three
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I understand the anger Now the
way that you should deal with

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something like this is through

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legal means. The creators of
zombie goes boom don't condone

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her actions but understand her
anger tweeting last night that

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YouTube's new rules ruined
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its hands we are zombie go boom.
Chuck me race as zombie goes

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boom used to bring in 10 to
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last year, YouTube stopped
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it decided had questionable
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revenue plummeted 90% overnight.

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Our channel is 1.7 million
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over a quarter of a billion
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part time employee at
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YouTube has done to 1000s of
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filed a lawsuit against
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claiming fraudulent business
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dismissed as he and other
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enforcement is taking a closer
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parents home in Riverside County
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full again know that Jackson you
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Yeah, didn't sound that Dutch to
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they're using that's the angle
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a second When when this
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as I've promised myself to do
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I know I know. I know. It makes
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tell me okay, I

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was watching the M. and I and
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immediately, almost immediately
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We believe this is domestic
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kind of terrorism can't be just
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Yeah, yeah. So just just just go
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no, oh, gee, oh, she was angry
at YouTube.

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Yeah, we had. I mean, every one
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kind of an ending clip play
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Oh, yeah, I got one about that,
too, with an interesting bit

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tonight, YouTube making changes,
saying We are also revisiting

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this incident in detail. And
we'll be increasing the security

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we have at all of our offices
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secure, not only in the near
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Now I have a more secure clip.
With little gotchas, if you can

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Google owned company pledged to
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offices, it is encouraging
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from home.

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Tonight YouTube is stepping up
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shooting at its California San
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released New details tonight,
saying the same like DOM endured

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an outdoor courtyard through a
parking garage, then opened fire

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yesterday wounding three people
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says security protections
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making it inside the building.
And relative say Aghdam was

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angry YouTube started censoring
her videos. And they warned

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police after she disappeared.
She had a problem with

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YouTube. So we call that cop
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going all the way from San Diego
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there was no information related
the officer whatsoever that

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there was any indication of
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a police searched the home or
Ogden lived in the gun range she

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visited just prior to that
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Did you hear it? No. Oh, at the
end. He so programmed to think

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that shooters are men that he
says he played again. Why isn't

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it playing? Here we go. Google
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consoles whoever that there was
any indication of violence.

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Today police searched the home
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visited just prior to that
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He's so programmed to say he she
says she No he didn't say he

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says he I listened to it several
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Well that was played again.
Gosh, that tells me which part

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you think. He says she goes

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to company place to increase it

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was it was any indication of
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Today police searched the home
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she visited is

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no the gun range she visited.

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I heard she

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okay. That maybe I'm programmed
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Well, that's possible too.

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Yeah, as bad as possible.

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It's possible that I programmed
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Area. Yeah. Oh yeah.

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I still here's z i don't know
maybe I'm crazy.

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Well, right. Well if you're
gonna play that game, yes. I got

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one for you. Okay, this is
another one this is a story

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about the gun and you this
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or seeing the investigative
reporter Vicki when Vicki?

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Well Raj Nasim on Tom's Father
said when YouTube changed its

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policies about which videos make
money. His daughter had, quote,

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no income I've done was active
on Instagram and YouTube. She

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had more than 50,000 followers
on Insta. She posted Farsi,

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Turkish and English. But she
grew upset with YouTube as early

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as 2015. And in 2016, she posted
this screenshot, claiming

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YouTube paid her only 10 cents
for a video that received more

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than 300,000 views. Family
members say she had no history

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of mental illness. And we
learned today from San Bruno PD

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that autumns gun was registered
in California, which means she

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presumably had to pass a
background check that ruled out

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any reported mental health or
criminal issues. One relative

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who declined to give her name
said she's upset that optim was

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able to obtain that nine
millimeter handgun. She used to

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shoot and wound three people as
as Adam.

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All right, ask away.

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You already got it.

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Oh, you spotted it. Oh, the
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word. Reporter.

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She's trying to be cool. She's
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kids.

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She's a reporter and she says
instance. Yeah, so what's the

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gram?

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No, I think instance what all
the cool kids say we say

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they say but I say the grandma.
I say the gram the gram. I know

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you spotted right away so

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Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't hear Did
you? Dang did you dig me? I

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clapped.

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Oh, I'm having problems hearing
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sinus pressure thing. Just crazy
flex affecting my ears. I might

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this

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might affect her she didn't spot
Insta. As I was I thought it was

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unprofessional personally. Oh,
okay. Anyway, the last clip I

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have a you can go on with the
with more security stuff but is

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the because the way they do the
security thing is YouTube's when

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everyone's bitching about
they're not getting enough money

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YouTube's making big changes
they're gonna beef up security.

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Yeah, just to me it's I don't
know why it

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gets handout less money and beef
up security. That's the strategy

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as a way to pay the guards more.
But ABC tried to get some sort

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of an angle there was a lot of
innuendo and and then they came

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up with this long shot. I mean,
well, MSNBC, like you pointed

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out decided it wasn't even a
story because it wasn't a male

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right winger, right. ABC at
least tried to make it a

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terrorist story at least make
some innuendo and this is the

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tube shooter was a pilot,

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a neighbor saying it appeared
Ogden threw away some of the

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clothes she wore in these videos
just days before her rampage.

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And that government joins us
live outside YouTube's office in

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San Bruno bet authority site
searching for clues and poring

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over those videos and telling
you they've learned troubling

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details about the shooters past.
That's right. Federal law

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enforcement officials telling me
they are still involved in this

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case, because when they delved
into her background, they found

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some red flags. For instance,
she got a pilot's license from

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the FAA just two days after 911.
And some of her online activism

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also raised concern. But they
are telling us tonight they are

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nearly certain she was not
affiliated with any domestic or

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foreign terrorist groups, Tom.

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So this is the way you go. So
anyone who's got a pilot's

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license within five days of 911
is

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suspect very, very suspect. I
say, hey,

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said what a stress.

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Have you heard any reports
about? antidepressants? SSRIs.

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Anything like that? And nothing?
Nothing?

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Of course not. That's never
asked her she's

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she seems like she might have
been a candidate.

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Oh, yeah. She seemed like, like
a like kind of a lost soul. And

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I there was a couple of clips I
didn't get but I'll mention it

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because it one was very funny
where the sheriff says she

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apparently didn't have any gun
skills. And I'm I'm thinking,

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right if she went to the range,
Yeah, apparently she had no gun

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skills. That's why she went to
the ratio. She can shoot it all.

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She bought the gun. And everyone
bitched about how she shouldn't

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have been able to buy a gun.
Yeah, if you buy a gun in

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California, you can buy a gun,
so she bought a gun, decided to

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take it to the range probably
had somebody shore out a

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shooter, they wouldn't have
remembered her. It's not

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everybody at the range remembers
everybody who shows up. So she

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probably took a few shots at the
targets and figured okay, well

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this I can shoot it. And then
she shoots a couple people in

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the legs. And and then they
said, Well, she couldn't she was

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in the patio because she
couldn't get into buildings she

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could have shot. Those building
doors, I believe are glass from

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what I could tell. You could
shoot the door out you could

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shoot the lock off of it.

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Now she wanted a surprise
attack. And so she's shooting

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people in the patio and then
shoots three bullets and this is

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I've no good at this. I have no
gun skills and blows her head

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off. So maybe she was actually
maybe that was an accident

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of blowing her head off part.

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Yeah, maybe she has such few gun
skills that she shot herself in

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the head.

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I don't know.

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I don't I hate to make fun of
the Yeah, I

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don't or or of the trauma that
people live through. It sucks.

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But I also have to point out
that I from my own personal

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history in the Netherlands, and
I've seen this in many. I'm

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opening myself up here but in
the community of animal

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activists, there is a lot of
violence. And sometimes these

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can be very violent people. I
think the act of throwing cakes

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and pies at somebody and
throwing paint on people. All of

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that is is unacceptable. And no,
this doesn't surprise me that

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this she was such a radical
animal activist. To put it that

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way.

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No, it does surprise me either.
I think it's all part of the

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same. The same. I don't know
what to call it.

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Oh, apparently she didn't blow
her head off. She shot herself

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in the chest.

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I did I'm right.

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It's like Oh, which way do I
point it? Horrible.

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I'm not hit anything with this.
Maybe I'm holding it wrong now.

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I almost I think someone sent me
a link to this. Shoot

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yourself in the chest.

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You got to turn the gun around.
Your brother. Yeah. Someone sent

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me a link to this and I'd kind
of forgotten about it. Michael

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Moore is such a nut. We were
easy by the way. uh with with

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this handgun incident in
California, but when he did the

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movie Bowling for Columbine,
which I think is really how he

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rose to fame, right? Wasn't that
his his main his big, big hit

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his big mainstream documentary
hit?

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I think the big one was the
General Motors one. But that was

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that before that or after that
it was before his original.

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Okay, so all right now so yeah,
of course. So he had already

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been huge by then Roger and me.
But he came to some very

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interesting conclusions about
Columbine. And I think it'd be

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interesting, in light of this
shooter, who we don't know much

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about, just to listen to what he
what he came up with

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in Bowling for Columbine. We
never really came up with the

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answer. In terms of why this
happened. I think we did a good

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job of exposing all the reasons
that were given, were a bunch of

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BS, you know, Marilyn Manson,
caused them to do it, this this

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or that caused them to do it.
And none of it really made any

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sense. That's why I believe
there should be an investigation

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in terms of what
pharmaceuticals, prescribed

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pharmaceuticals these kids were
on. And and perhaps parents, it

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would have a shocking. It would
just be shocking, I think, to

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the millions of parents who
prescribed this for their kids,

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if they if it was finally
explained to them. If this is

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the case, that this perhaps
occurred for no other reason,

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other than because of these
prescriptions. You imagine what

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that would do? Imagine how
people would totally rethink

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things, grasping for every
little straw they can to explain

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why something like Columbine
happens, when in fact, it may be

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nothing more than this. How else
do you explain to otherwise

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decent kids? Very smart, no
history of violence to other

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kids in the school? Why them?
Why did this happen? It's an

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extremely legitimate question to
pose, and it demands an

455
00:26:53,610 --> 00:26:54,480
investigation.

456
00:26:54,570 --> 00:26:57,600
Where's that? Michael Moore?
What happened to him? I liked

457
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,200
that one.

458
00:26:58,710 --> 00:27:02,160
Well, you know, he does. He does
make a point. And none of these

459
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,260
school shootings ever occurred
before the TV advertising of

460
00:27:07,260 --> 00:27:08,100
these drugs. There's

461
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,850
a strong correlation, in fact,
in the timeline,

462
00:27:11,850 --> 00:27:16,110
and I don't think it's a
coincidence. And he noticed it

463
00:27:16,110 --> 00:27:21,360
early on, that's very early on.
It's continuing, nobody seems to

464
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:23,670
want to talk about it for good
for the reason that we've

465
00:27:23,670 --> 00:27:28,020
expressed on this show, which is
why we ask people to help us do

466
00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:31,500
the show by contributing
directly. So we don't have to

467
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:35,670
run ads from these companies
that are really supporting the

468
00:27:35,670 --> 00:27:40,050
network's these drug companies.
The network's would be half of

469
00:27:40,050 --> 00:27:42,990
them would really be rethinking
everything they do if they lost

470
00:27:42,990 --> 00:27:46,410
all that advertising revenue. In
fact, drug companies that

471
00:27:46,410 --> 00:27:48,540
produce some of these really
dubious drugs.

472
00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:51,030
Here's a short follow up clip
from Michael Moore,

473
00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:54,870
Eli Lilly Corporation,
pharmaceutical company, for

474
00:27:55,020 --> 00:28:01,440
nearly 15 years covered up their
own internal investigation that

475
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:08,940
showed that anyone on Prozac is
12 times more likely to attempt

476
00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:14,160
suicide than those using other
antidepressants, not 12 times

477
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,300
more than the average population
12 times more than those already

478
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:25,440
on other antidepressants. This
is a criminal act. And I want to

479
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,750
know why these criminals are
still walking the streets.

480
00:28:32,670 --> 00:28:35,280
Yeah, that guy. Where's that
guy?

481
00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:38,700
You know, he could do a good
documentary on that. But no one

482
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:39,540
would ever run it.

483
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:43,590
Yeah. You get killed,
unfortunately killed

484
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:46,500
or the or they just would say
you run this documentary. You're

485
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:48,540
not gonna get any more dollars
from us. We'll just give it all

486
00:28:48,540 --> 00:28:49,410
to CBS.

487
00:28:51,090 --> 00:28:54,210
Yeah, sorry. Hit the guy where
it hurts in his pocketbook.

488
00:28:54,330 --> 00:29:00,300
Yeah, true. Let me see. I don't
know. Can we? I guess maybe we

489
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:02,640
can move this a little bit too,
because we just don't have

490
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,650
anything we don't know anything
other than now I

491
00:29:04,650 --> 00:29:08,130
think I think is covered I think
has been covered. She's done and

492
00:29:08,130 --> 00:29:11,340
that's the way it goes in this
new cycle continues next week

493
00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:12,720
just won't even be a story but

494
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,360
I think we might see more of
this type of violence against

495
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,980
the social nets. When you get d
monetized delisted, banned

496
00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:30,900
blocked. This may be the start
of a violent backlash. And I

497
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:35,160
have for later on the show I
have I listen to Ezra Klein

498
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,270
interview with Zuckerberg. As
you hear that. You haven't heard

499
00:29:39,270 --> 00:29:43,350
it good. I have heard it. Oh,
you had the whole thing? No, no.

500
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,200
Okay, so I pulled a couple
clips. We'll be able to listen

501
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:52,680
to that. But we did have you
seen two other clips? Oh, yeah.

502
00:29:53,550 --> 00:29:56,280
You might have seen this. It
wasn't till I wasn't even going

503
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,070
to clip this one until I saw it
run on TV and I thought it was

504
00:29:59,070 --> 00:30:02,910
funny. Just eat In the audio,
this is Nicole Wallace on MSNBC

505
00:30:02,910 --> 00:30:05,490
and so they have the box she's
got a guest in the studio in a

506
00:30:05,490 --> 00:30:10,590
box to her right or to her left
for the viewer with you know the

507
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:16,110
helicopter video or a sky shot
of the YouTube headquarters and

508
00:30:16,110 --> 00:30:19,890
someone opens up a Pepsi can in
the studio google

509
00:30:19,890 --> 00:30:24,420
and youtube as it becomes
available. Steve Schmidt I

510
00:30:25,380 --> 00:30:32,010
always go back to the horror of
911 and the complete reliance

511
00:30:32,010 --> 00:30:35,160
you know, we are in our tribes
were in our corners most of our

512
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,460
lives. I think we just heard
some gunshots listen to that for

513
00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:43,710
a second. Not gunshots Okay.
They'll tell us if there's

514
00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:44,010
something

515
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,350
I think we just heard some
gunshots could from

516
00:30:49,290 --> 00:30:53,400
me here it sounds like
somebody's opening up and miking

517
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,690
it. Yeah.

518
00:30:55,470 --> 00:30:58,230
I think I haven't gotten there.
Her reaction is priceless. I

519
00:30:58,230 --> 00:31:00,570
think we're hearing gunshots
control room. Can you confirm

520
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:02,550
that? Karissa konjac is that
gunshot?

521
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,500
These people are the worst.

522
00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:12,690
Here is David Hogg. He's getting
kind of high on the hog

523
00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:18,450
actually. He I guess Bill
O'Reilly wrote something or went

524
00:31:18,450 --> 00:31:23,280
somewhere and you know if as if
you still relevant, and accused

525
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,350
this kid of taking money from
Soros. For from shadowy figures,

526
00:31:28,350 --> 00:31:31,740
shadowy figures in the
background, here's his priceless

527
00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:32,400
response.

528
00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:35,850
I mean, I'm pretty well lit. I
don't see any shadowy figures

529
00:31:35,850 --> 00:31:42,330
behind me. I mean, honestly, if
he sees powerful shattering

530
00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:45,570
shadowy groups as corporate
America standing with us, okay,

531
00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:48,270
yes, it doesn't really make
sense. But what I want to get on

532
00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:51,150
from is the negativity in this
situation and I want to focus on

533
00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:53,760
what's ahead for our movement.
It's really what we need to be

534
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,370
focusing on is the positivity
and really bringing everybody

535
00:31:56,370 --> 00:31:58,620
together. And that's the first
thing that we have coming up are

536
00:31:58,620 --> 00:32:01,080
the town halls on April 7, that
we're trying to get in every

537
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,800
congressional district and I
think what when Bill says these

538
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,310
things,

539
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,970
I love how it uses bill you
know, like my colleague over

540
00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:13,200
there to you know, former Fox
News calling Bill Bill and Laura

541
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,460
and Don and

542
00:32:14,490 --> 00:32:18,810
I think what when Bill says
these things and when Laura says

543
00:32:18,810 --> 00:32:22,620
these things, I I'm fine when
they disagree with my policies,

544
00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:25,290
that's absolutely okay. But I
have a problem with is when they

545
00:32:25,290 --> 00:32:28,410
attack me or anybody else
personally, why what does that

546
00:32:28,410 --> 00:32:31,920
accomplish? It doesn't make any
sense. I'm not I don't have any

547
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,850
shadowy figures behind me. At
least I don't see any. I'm

548
00:32:35,850 --> 00:32:39,390
pretty well lit, and I'm just a
kid that uses Twitter and he if

549
00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:42,060
he sees me as powerful, that's
okay. I don't see myself that

550
00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:45,600
way. But honestly, we're trying
to use our First Amendment

551
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,760
rights and serve as corporate
America and if he stands against

552
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,130
that, that's fine, but we're
gonna they're standing with us

553
00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:52,110
and we're gonna stand with that.
Guy babbles to

554
00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:54,690
me, he just he just wanted
corporate America to stand by

555
00:32:54,690 --> 00:32:55,860
him which is great.

556
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,180
I think you should do as ISO of
I'm pretty well lit pretty well

557
00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:06,480
lit. Oh, man, I'm really high.
I'm pretty well lit. Yeah, I

558
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,860
should do pretty well lit.

559
00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:11,520
I should do that. I forgot to
Chris Wilson sent in a little

560
00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:13,920
little preview of his end of
show mixed with this whole

561
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:23,250
YouTube thing. Don't don't know
was so sick don't

562
00:33:24,930 --> 00:33:32,670
community strong the whole side
down.

563
00:33:33,570 --> 00:33:38,220
So you can look forward to the
full song at the end. I

564
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,110
have to I have a little side
thing to do here. First is the

565
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:46,710
Tesla April Fool's gag, which we
should at least do a little

566
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,220
follow up on. And then I have my
clip that I wanted. I finally

567
00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:52,470
found I've got that one. I see
as

568
00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:55,860
well. They may have gotten some
laughs But Tesla took a big hit

569
00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:59,160
because of an April Fool's joke.
Here it is. Elon Musk posted

570
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,920
this to Twitter yesterday saying
that the company was going

571
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,530
bankrupt. While a lot of people
were looking out for jokes. The

572
00:34:04,530 --> 00:34:08,010
timing of this tweet may have
put Tesla shares into a deep

573
00:34:08,010 --> 00:34:10,950
slide as we mentioned earlier in
the newscast, the NTSB is

574
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:14,280
investigating a deadly crash
involving a Tesla that was in

575
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,360
autopilot mode. Tesla shares
fell about 8% this morning to

576
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,190
their lowest level in nearly a
year.

577
00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:23,910
Yeah, that was the dumbest thing
I've ever seen anyone do any

578
00:34:23,910 --> 00:34:28,350
never said April Fool's actually
violated the whole gain.

579
00:34:28,350 --> 00:34:28,830
Interesting.

580
00:34:28,830 --> 00:34:31,200
You say that because I was
waiting for him to say April

581
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:37,620
Fool's on that and April Fool's
on the flame thrower. And you

582
00:34:37,620 --> 00:34:39,480
actually not a lot of people
know this, but you were pretty

583
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,150
famous back in the day for your
April Fool's gas

584
00:34:42,150 --> 00:34:46,800
I had done I've done quite a few
good ones. I got in the hall

585
00:34:46,830 --> 00:34:50,070
hoax Hall of Fame with one of
them. Oh, which one was that? I

586
00:34:50,070 --> 00:34:54,750
believe that was the one way
said that, that Patrick Leahy,

587
00:34:54,870 --> 00:34:57,030
who it got wind of this and to
get irked about it by the way.

588
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:04,020
Patrick Leigh he was working on
a bill To make being intoxicated

589
00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:08,490
well on the internet of felony,
because these guys and then

590
00:35:08,490 --> 00:35:12,090
where I played it was that these
guys are so stupid that because

591
00:35:12,090 --> 00:35:17,220
it was dubbed the information
highway they felt it was like

592
00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:20,580
drunk driving DUI. And they
didn't know the difference

593
00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:23,280
between one and the other. And
so I played it from that

594
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,430
perspective, which is a way to
do it April Fool's vegans take

595
00:35:26,430 --> 00:35:29,070
something real and then twist it
into something and then people

596
00:35:29,070 --> 00:35:32,850
say, Oh, these guys are so
stupid. And of course, the whole

597
00:35:32,850 --> 00:35:37,800
thing was bullshit. And that was
one of them. I also had one that

598
00:35:38,340 --> 00:35:42,060
which got in the front page of
the Sioux City newspaper, Sioux

599
00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:45,600
City, Sioux City, Sioux City.
This is where I'm at on up

600
00:35:45,630 --> 00:35:49,560
gateway was gateway computers
and it got above the fold right

601
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,130
at the top. I think was it this
is a Sioux City of Sioux Falls

602
00:35:53,999 --> 00:36:01,229
above the fold below. Above the
below the title. Oh, you print

603
00:36:01,229 --> 00:36:03,239
Maven. You use in

604
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:06,030
olden days just before the
internet you're still excited

605
00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:09,960
about it. Well, I got a kick out
of it. All right. Because above

606
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,310
the whole thing, how did you
launch

607
00:36:11,310 --> 00:36:13,860
it? You had no email. How did
you launch it? How did you know

608
00:36:13,860 --> 00:36:14,430
webs?

609
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:17,370
This all went into magazine.

610
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:21,810
Oh, print. Yeah. Nice. Geez.
Anyway, you

611
00:36:21,810 --> 00:36:25,290
want to hear the story? Yes. You
asked for the story. I asked for

612
00:36:25,290 --> 00:36:27,690
one. You're gonna give me the
second. I think it was it Sioux

613
00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:30,960
City of Sioux Falls, the
chatroom should know, anyways,

614
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:36,330
it's a big town and Dakotas. I
made the assertion it was just I

615
00:36:36,330 --> 00:36:42,840
wrote it up as a news item is
that Ted Wade and the boys at

616
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,730
the Gateway can 2000 computer
company isn't a 90s we're we're

617
00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:51,330
buying the town name and they
were going to change the name of

618
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:57,510
Sioux Falls or Sioux City which
of the two to Gateway city? And

619
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:58,800
it was I played it straight.

620
00:36:58,830 --> 00:37:00,270
I think I remember this. Yeah,

621
00:37:00,299 --> 00:37:03,419
yeah, they're gonna be gateway
city. And they got everybody got

622
00:37:03,419 --> 00:37:06,929
bent out of shape. So they wrote
this article, I read the paper.

623
00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:10,860
And you how'd you do the April
Fool's, you put that in the

624
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:12,600
magazine as well, the way it's
done

625
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:15,810
the way the way I would always
do it is I'd have about five

626
00:37:15,810 --> 00:37:19,950
hints in there that this was a
gag. I would put the date I do I

627
00:37:19,950 --> 00:37:26,160
always have the spokesperson was
always lupus LWF. Which is April

628
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,770
Fool's spelled backwards. I
mean, if you can't get that, at

629
00:37:28,770 --> 00:37:32,220
that point, you're an idiot.
Yeah. And there's a lot of

630
00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:32,730
hints.

631
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:37,170
There. There was actually there
was a pretty good one. This year

632
00:37:37,170 --> 00:37:40,500
was didn't get enough play. I
felt Lexus and 23andme. Did you

633
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:45,360
see that? Yeah. They did a
commercial, very professional

634
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,420
commercial. It was it was
completely produced. And it was

635
00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:52,680
extremely believable. And the
idea was, and I clicked it, but

636
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,370
it doesn't work without video.
And it's really well done. It

637
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,360
looks like a Lexus commercial,
because it is. And the idea is

638
00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:05,370
you give your DNA to Lexus. And
they customize. Oh, yes. I saw

639
00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:08,100
this commercial. And then at the
end, there's a couple of

640
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:10,080
giveaways of it. There's a
parser there's a couple of

641
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,860
giveaways. One is she's spitting
into the test tube right there

642
00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:16,170
in the commercial, which is not
at all flattering. I'm like,

643
00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:19,440
Nah, that was Hold on a second.
What's going on here? And then

644
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,280
at the very end, I'm like, oh my
god, this is crazy. Are they

645
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,060
insane? What's happening? The
very end to start the car She

646
00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:30,600
licks the steering wheel and it
recognizes her DNA and starts

647
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,960
and drives off. It was well
done. That's funny. It was very

648
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,290
good. I didn't see the whole
thing. But Elon Musk should be

649
00:38:37,290 --> 00:38:37,830
arrested.

650
00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:41,010
I thought so. I thought that you
did sunk the stock if you were

651
00:38:41,010 --> 00:38:43,620
trading it. You may have lost
money. This was the stupidest

652
00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:45,660
thing I've ever seen when you
can't do this legally.

653
00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:50,130
Honestly, I sunk the stock. I
mean, I told you get well.

654
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:58,140
I had I found I found the old
rave. You raving and raving

655
00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:02,430
about the machine and 2017 is
what I criticized you for. And

656
00:39:02,430 --> 00:39:05,880
so I have a clip I finally taken
out of context just a small

657
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,520
part. No, no, this is every
disc. This is your words. In the

658
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,900
order you said them. And it's
also i Okay, I tightened up a

659
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:20,100
little few because there's a lot
of ohms that like cut it down a

660
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,950
little bit but because I didn't
want to go on forever. I got one

661
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:25,710
minute 41 seconds it's pretty
much summarizes your feelings

662
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,770
up and I 35 can get pretty
gnarly. Let me tell you

663
00:39:28,770 --> 00:39:33,360
something. This this car blew my
mind with autopilot. I did not

664
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,140
drive to New Braunfels. The car
drove itself. Oh, that's nice.

665
00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:41,340
Come from stop and go traffic.
We were on the web browser.

666
00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:45,120
We're connected phones and the
car is just driving by In fact,

667
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,330
at a certain point, we have to
get off i 35. And I'm thinking I

668
00:39:48,330 --> 00:39:52,080
wonder if it'll actually just do
that too. That's how comfortable

669
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,970
it felt. lane changes.

670
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,490
Click I never drove one with
that feature.

671
00:39:56,610 --> 00:40:00,150
Oh my god. No, I'm very familiar
with adaptive cruise. lose

672
00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:03,240
control and with with systems
that keep you in your lane that

673
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:06,540
will kind of bump you back into
the lane. But this was an

674
00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:11,400
absolute mind boggling
experience any car I have in the

675
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,330
future. I want this technology
in it. Tina loves it. She loves

676
00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:20,520
the minimalism of as you think
is fantastic. And but also just

677
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,000
the feeling that we're tootling
along said, Hey, let's just see

678
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,120
how the pickup is when we're
doing 70. You know, I floor the

679
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,060
thing. It's unbelievable.
There's no doubt about it. This

680
00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:33,930
is an unbelievable beast of a
machine. So again, on the way

681
00:40:33,930 --> 00:40:38,310
back, I just love the technology
of the car. I think the sound

682
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:41,340
sound system was okay. There's a
lot of extras I don't know if he

683
00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:44,520
has the super sound system and
this suspension and all that.

684
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:48,930
But again, the car is driving
itself. I am absolutely loving

685
00:40:48,930 --> 00:40:53,100
this this experience and made me
feel great about saving the

686
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:57,360
world from climate change.
absolutely outstanding. almost

687
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:03,540
bought. This car is every
imaginary scenario, except for

688
00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:06,330
picking up chicks at the
Waterberg. absolutely

689
00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:15,630
outstanding. You dick first of
all, I gave John the link from

690
00:41:15,630 --> 00:41:19,500
no agenda player.com And I
listened to the whole thing you

691
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:22,680
just cut that up. You butchered
it. You were horrible, man. How

692
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:28,830
long did you spend on that? Two
days? That was good. That was

693
00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:30,780
good. That was good. was

694
00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:34,230
good. I'll tell you I've done
we'll brag about one clip. One

695
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:40,380
thing I did you and I think
because you're like a very good

696
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:43,830
editor, and I think I can hold
my own by there was a couple

697
00:41:43,830 --> 00:41:46,350
more things. I really had to
spend a lot of time getting just

698
00:41:46,350 --> 00:41:50,400
a little new one bit of
information. But on the one I

699
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,300
was trying to fix it nice. It
was this cut you said and

700
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:57,180
usually Billy actually played
this against how good I did this

701
00:41:57,180 --> 00:42:00,630
because it was it was a luck
shot. You said this car is

702
00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:02,670
unsuitable. And you

703
00:42:07,230 --> 00:42:10,410
You did a good job. That was I'm
like, wait a minute. I know

704
00:42:10,410 --> 00:42:14,880
exactly what's in that. I just
heard it. This is okay, you got

705
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:20,760
me. What I was gonna say is yes,
that's the day I bought. And I

706
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:31,650
sold April 1. Yeah. Oh, man.
Okay, good one. You got me. Ah.

707
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,140
All right. What else we got
here? Yeah,

708
00:42:34,140 --> 00:42:36,750
let me see if we got. Did I have
anything else on? Oh, yeah.

709
00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:39,660
Well, there is. This was
interesting. That is someone

710
00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:42,210
asked me this is constitutional.
I believe it is. But it's just

711
00:42:42,210 --> 00:42:44,700
something that we should maybe
discuss briefly. The vote came

712
00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:46,680
in at badasses, Deerfield
Illinois

713
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:50,280
an hour ago and it was unanimous
the village opting for a ban on

714
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,840
specific types of firearms. And
essentially what that means is a

715
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,320
complete ban on semi automatic
rifles, pistols and shotguns

716
00:42:58,470 --> 00:43:01,920
containing certain features and
magazines containing more than

717
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,800
10 rounds of ammunition. Law
enforcement of retired law

718
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,560
enforcement are exempt by the
adjustments to local law, the

719
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,950
debate before the vote at times
heated and passionate.

720
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:15,300
There's going to be lots of talk
about second amendment rights.

721
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:22,410
But I'd be hard pressed to find
any right that is completely

722
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,820
unrestricted.

723
00:43:23,970 --> 00:43:28,560
We have police Yeah, they had
them in Florida to imagine how

724
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,560
those teachers and those kids
folks and look up that window at

725
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,670
that cup hiding behind that
tree. I bet they wish they had a

726
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:37,560
gun versus a phone in their
hands.

727
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:41,730
And the why is is very similar
to the one that is currently in

728
00:43:41,730 --> 00:43:46,050
place in Highland Park. The band
goes into effect June 30. And

729
00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:49,530
after that those with a noted
firearms could be fined up to

730
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,870
$1,000 per day that they possess
those noted firearms. We are

731
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:58,020
live in Deerfield, Jeremy Ross,
CBS two news.

732
00:43:58,110 --> 00:44:00,930
So the question is, is that
constitutional? I believe it is

733
00:44:01,350 --> 00:44:06,000
what? That they can ban a
certain they could ban a gun in

734
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,770
their city or municipality.

735
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,800
Well, they did a they do that in
Washington, DC and I think it's

736
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,580
been upheld.

737
00:44:14,910 --> 00:44:18,150
I can see why that's a community
decision.

738
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,680
Yeah, that's yeah,

739
00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:20,850
it's just the federal
government.

740
00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:23,490
It's about the about the federal
government. Yeah,

741
00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:26,670
it's not about the local
government. So yeah, yeah. Why

742
00:44:26,670 --> 00:44:30,240
don't they just do that? Do a
town by town we'll go shutting

743
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:37,200
them down. Just in time, our
favorite resource on the

744
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,870
internet for definitions.
Merriam Webster has changed the

745
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:53,820
definition of assault rifle.
Yes. Here we go. Assault Rifle.

746
00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:59,430
Any of various intermediate
range magazine fed military

747
00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:04,710
rifles such as the AK 47 That
can be set for automatic or semi

748
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:09,720
automatic fire also a rifle that
resembles a military assault

749
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:13,920
rifle but is designed to allow
only semi automatic fire to the

750
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,800
added the also it resembles what
kind of definition is that

751
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:25,440
resembles means if it looks
nasty, I know what it means but

752
00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:29,850
now resembles a millet so that
could just be colors.

753
00:45:32,250 --> 00:45:33,900
Yeah, we were the camo.

754
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:41,400
Yeah, exactly the camo, and very
strange. And then just some

755
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,770
confirmation even though we
already had figured this one out

756
00:45:43,770 --> 00:45:49,050
pretty quickly, the march for
our lives. March. If these kids

757
00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:51,180
were all getting ready to
organize in April, which would

758
00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:54,450
have been about now and they
were going to do this big walk

759
00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:57,450
out of school and then all of a
sudden notice it's been March.

760
00:45:57,450 --> 00:46:03,390
It's called the march for our
lives. Here we go. DC police

761
00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:10,860
confirmed that the march for our
lives people booked and got

762
00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:12,900
their permits months in advance

763
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,560
Yeah, well they still put the
kibosh on it didn't they

764
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,600
wouldn't let a march Well

765
00:46:22,740 --> 00:46:26,760
no, I think they they didn't
have permission for a rally but

766
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,690
the point is this whole thing
was set up months in advance for

767
00:46:30,690 --> 00:46:33,060
this for a more i don't know i
It's unclear to me if it was

768
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:37,920
called march for our lives. But
the permits were given out way

769
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,880
before the shooting took place.
Oh yeah, so that's that's the

770
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,560
timeline is interesting in this
case

771
00:46:43,590 --> 00:46:50,910
am scam well yeah, it's a scam.
Absolutely. Maybe the guys who

772
00:46:50,910 --> 00:46:55,230
put the guys who got the
permits. Were the ones behind

773
00:46:55,230 --> 00:46:57,570
the shooting so they can get
more people to come to the road

774
00:46:57,570 --> 00:46:58,050
march

775
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:04,170
Get off my beat. Even I wouldn't
suggest that. Even I wouldn't

776
00:47:04,170 --> 00:47:07,950
suggest it. Did you see Spotify?
Go go public?

777
00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:14,160
Yes, I did. 165 went up to 165.
This stock is worthless. This

778
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,870
isn't one of those 50 cent
stocks.

779
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,090
You know what's what's
interesting? And actually I'd

780
00:47:18,090 --> 00:47:24,750
like to correct the DH unplugged
sister podcast because I think

781
00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:28,260
you guys know it, but it didn't
really came out wrong. There

782
00:47:28,260 --> 00:47:31,620
were no shares issued at this
IPO there was no money raised.

783
00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:34,950
This was just an exit. No, it's
just going public. Yeah, this

784
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:38,460
was just an this was an exit if
they didn't. If they weren't

785
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:43,230
public, I think it was by June.
Then they'd have to, you know,

786
00:47:43,350 --> 00:47:46,770
cut millions more shares to
everybody and there's all these

787
00:47:46,770 --> 00:47:49,020
penalties and everything so
they're like Yeah, screw it.

788
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,720
I got to reverse merger. Yeah, I

789
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:53,430
don't know about 50 cents. I
think

790
00:47:55,410 --> 00:47:57,210
it's never made a nickel. No, of
course

791
00:47:57,210 --> 00:48:01,980
not. But just by by the typical
standards, I think $50 There was

792
00:48:01,980 --> 00:48:03,330
there was no shares to short

793
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,010
at all. No, no, we did it on our
game, though. Because

794
00:48:08,310 --> 00:48:12,270
Oh, on CNBC actually called me
to do an appearance about the

795
00:48:12,270 --> 00:48:17,790
Spotify IPO. Oh, you should have
no, no. What am I going to say?

796
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:21,510
You know exactly. If you get
already you go to a studio

797
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:21,960
anyway, let

798
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,400
me get hold on. So Mr. Mr.
Curry, yes, yes. Yeah. Let me

799
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,890
I'm gonna, I'm gonna just do the
whole thing. Okay. Remember,

800
00:48:29,609 --> 00:48:33,809
let me tell you the personal
preface by saying the angle is

801
00:48:33,809 --> 00:48:37,439
MTV Music Technology. Sure.

802
00:48:37,530 --> 00:48:41,070
Okay. Yeah. All right. I'll tell
you what, you'll be the M MSNBC

803
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:44,850
or CNBC guy. I'll be you. I'll
be curry this is what I expect

804
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:45,480
to hear.

805
00:48:45,509 --> 00:48:49,349
Right now. We have another
person who is very interested in

806
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:53,429
this very interesting to talk to
but it comes to the Spotify IPO

807
00:48:53,429 --> 00:48:56,699
we heard from Gene Simmons, a
legendary frontman from Kiss

808
00:48:56,699 --> 00:49:01,409
earlier. And this guy has been
around for lots of revolutionary

809
00:49:01,409 --> 00:49:05,249
technologies. When it comes to
music. Please say hello to

810
00:49:05,819 --> 00:49:13,679
former MTV VJ and currently host
of a podcast. Adam Barry.

811
00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:15,660
Thanks so good to be on.

812
00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:20,100
So Adam, what is your feeling
about Spotify in general? Do you

813
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,640
think that it's the cultural
shift? That will save the music

814
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,330
business?

815
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,570
Well, I think what we should be
talking about is Michael Jackson

816
00:49:27,570 --> 00:49:28,380
being murdered.

817
00:49:32,910 --> 00:49:40,980
And back to Gene Simmons. I'm an
idiot. You're so right. I should

818
00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:46,110
have done that. I should have
done that. Ah, stupid. is

819
00:49:46,110 --> 00:49:51,300
actually one of our producers.
Is a booker. He's the one he's

820
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:55,590
the one that takes it on and big
fan of the show the podcast. Any

821
00:49:55,590 --> 00:49:58,890
sincere I could tell. So

822
00:49:59,310 --> 00:50:02,520
we have a we have A listener
who's one of the producers is

823
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,750
yes, yes and Booker,

824
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:05,370
Booker Booker,

825
00:50:05,610 --> 00:50:06,930
but here's producers, here's

826
00:50:06,930 --> 00:50:12,720
the real travesty. This is the
story that's unreported. All the

827
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:16,470
music business executives, all
these companies, everyone had

828
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:19,830
shares, who the people didn't
have shares with the artists,

829
00:50:19,860 --> 00:50:23,850
they had no shares. But yeah,
all of them all of their all the

830
00:50:23,850 --> 00:50:27,750
a&r managers, all these guys,
like, hey, you know, get it on

831
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:31,080
Spotify client should Yeah, do
that. And you should make your

832
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,560
own Spotify list with all the
cool songs, you know, the stuff

833
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,960
that you really like, doesn't
really matter doesn't have to be

834
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,720
on our label, just anything you
know, just and then promoted

835
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:44,010
promoted on your Twitter. And so
these guys, they raped the

836
00:50:44,010 --> 00:50:49,650
artists twice by not giving him
cutting him in on any deal, or

837
00:50:49,650 --> 00:50:54,630
any shares or anything. And then
by actively helping them promote

838
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:59,280
and create the fictitious value,
that they then monetize, they

839
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,820
cashed in on again on the back
of the artists and are the

840
00:51:02,820 --> 00:51:08,280
artists stupid? Are they stupid?
Do you not see this? They're

841
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:14,400
artists. Yeah. Oh, my goodness.
How about their managers? So you

842
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,500
know what it is? It's collusion.
Yeah, the managers the managers

843
00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:25,260
were in on the IPO it's just so
sad. Oh, says fools I tell you

844
00:51:25,260 --> 00:51:30,480
fools it's the same with the
with YouTube and all this money

845
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,300
this internet money go look at
the South Park internet money

846
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:37,080
episode. That will explain it
perfectly.

847
00:51:37,379 --> 00:51:48,209
Internet money Yeah. Yeah couple
of things happened the Mexican

848
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,929
way this makes it up we made a
big fuss over caravan.

849
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,700
No, it was spotted caravan was
part of it. But they but I think

850
00:51:56,700 --> 00:52:00,270
which is why a Trump put the
National Guard at the border and

851
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:04,590
of course all the you know, your
boys had MSNBC, it was all Oh

852
00:52:04,590 --> 00:52:04,890
Ha,

853
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,340
I'm just gonna assert one thing.
I'm going to assert that this

854
00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:13,500
story was launched on purpose by
Trump to get the troop the

855
00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:16,650
national guard on the border.
This thing was a setup from the

856
00:52:16,650 --> 00:52:17,310
beginning.

857
00:52:17,759 --> 00:52:21,179
It could be but the real point
that I always thought was that

858
00:52:21,179 --> 00:52:24,839
they're making a big fuss about
this. And in fact, Bush put the

859
00:52:24,839 --> 00:52:28,679
national guard on the border,
Hama and Obama put the national

860
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:30,419
white so he's doing it to wait,

861
00:52:30,779 --> 00:52:35,519
hold on, Obama not only put 1200
troops National Guard on the

862
00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:39,599
border in Yuma on the border,
but he also charged the American

863
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:44,399
public, half a billion dollars
for it. He raised 500 million

864
00:52:44,429 --> 00:52:49,799
for this operation. So anyone
saying anything is full of crap.

865
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,680
Well, what they tried to do at
ABC was bring it in, conflate it

866
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,340
with it to make it sound as
though he's doing this because

867
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:02,160
Mueller is out to get him. Oh,
he's

868
00:53:02,370 --> 00:53:02,850
stretched.

869
00:53:03,870 --> 00:53:07,980
I love to put the two stories
together. You're listening to

870
00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:11,580
way Listen to the way they do it
on ABC. This is ABC This is the

871
00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:15,750
beginning ABC border
announcement and lie. Next a

872
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:18,510
stunning announcement from the
White House National Guard

873
00:53:18,510 --> 00:53:21,510
troops will head to the border
with Mexico as soon as tonight

874
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:24,690
and it comes as sources a
special counsel Robert Muller

875
00:53:24,690 --> 00:53:27,840
told the president's legal team
in recent weeks that he was

876
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,690
under investigation suits NBC
chief White House correspondent

877
00:53:30,690 --> 00:53:30,990
Jonathan

878
00:53:30,990 --> 00:53:34,230
Cole Wow. brazen that's
incredible.

879
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,930
Unbelievable. Yeah.

880
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,350
Because you got you got also say
it comes you know, this is all a

881
00:53:40,350 --> 00:53:43,620
plot by YouTube to distract from
people killing them.

882
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,650
It's it's really, I don't know
what to even what to say. But

883
00:53:49,650 --> 00:53:55,110
it's just ABC trying to I mean,
that's two separate stories just

884
00:53:55,110 --> 00:53:56,130
got done once guys.

885
00:53:57,090 --> 00:54:01,470
I gotta give you a borderline
that was least that was at least

886
00:54:01,470 --> 00:54:03,180
a borderline that was worth a
borderline.

887
00:54:03,450 --> 00:54:07,230
So here is the second part where
they bring in our guy, you know

888
00:54:07,230 --> 00:54:10,560
the news correspondent, White
House correspondent. And this is

889
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,360
Mexican border announcement in
lie

890
00:54:12,450 --> 00:54:15,990
to a day after the president
surprised his own top advisors

891
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:19,170
by floating the idea of using
the military to secure the

892
00:54:19,170 --> 00:54:22,620
border with Mexico. We're going
to be guarding our border with

893
00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:25,500
the military. The White House
made it official announcing he

894
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:28,530
is signing the order and the
National Guard could be on its

895
00:54:28,530 --> 00:54:30,060
way as early as tonight

896
00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:32,880
we do you hope that the
deployment begins immediately.

897
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,140
The Homeland Security

898
00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:38,130
Secretary could not say how many
troops or how much it would cost

899
00:54:38,310 --> 00:54:42,000
as for what they'll do. US
troops cannot do law enforcement

900
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,120
functions such as arresting
illegal border crossers. This

901
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,510
would be a support role, such as
helping with surveillance,

902
00:54:48,690 --> 00:54:52,350
it will be strong it will be as
many as is needed to fill the

903
00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:55,260
gaps that we have today is what
I can't tell you. So we'll go

904
00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:56,430
through and make sure

905
00:54:56,610 --> 00:54:59,550
just last week, the President
also suggested he would use

906
00:54:59,550 --> 00:55:03,180
military Harry funds to build
his border wall. Does the

907
00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:07,380
President have the authority to
use money that Congress has

908
00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:10,140
appropriated to the Department
of Defense to build the border

909
00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:10,410
wall?

910
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,010
What he meant was there are some
lands that the Department of

911
00:55:14,010 --> 00:55:18,000
Defense owns that right on the
border that are actually areas

912
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,390
where we see illicit activity.
We're looking into options for

913
00:55:21,390 --> 00:55:24,360
the military to build wall on
military installations on the

914
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,560
border. But Pentagon

915
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,220
officials tell ABC News, the US
military has no land on the

916
00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:32,670
Mexican border. The closest is
the Air Force is Goldwater

917
00:55:32,670 --> 00:55:36,540
practice range in Arizona, which
is not actually on the border.

918
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,530
Meanwhile, regarding the special
counsel investigation, ABC News

919
00:55:40,530 --> 00:55:43,620
has confirmed President Trump
has been informed by Robert

920
00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:47,700
Muller's team, that he is not at
this point, a criminal target of

921
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:51,060
the investigation, but he is a
subject of the investigation.

922
00:55:51,060 --> 00:55:54,420
And therefore, Muller wants to
interview him. Wow.

923
00:55:55,110 --> 00:55:57,780
It's the hits. Just keep on
coming with these guys.

924
00:55:58,140 --> 00:56:01,590
Now, the worst part about this
particular one, and I have this

925
00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:09,330
sorry, yeah, I have the two ISOs
put back to back is that Yamahas

926
00:56:09,330 --> 00:56:14,340
Tom Yamas, who's doing is
sitting in for David Muir. He

927
00:56:14,460 --> 00:56:20,190
indicates one thing in his in
his opening, which is that Trump

928
00:56:20,190 --> 00:56:25,050
is under investigation. And then
this guy, the White House

929
00:56:25,050 --> 00:56:28,110
correspondent says he's not
under investigation. He's just

930
00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:29,580
kind of a person of interest.

931
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:33,270
Just he's just a person involved
in the whole story, I think is

932
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:34,050
what that means.

933
00:56:34,110 --> 00:56:39,000
Yeah. And so this is like
misleading. Now I have the two

934
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,640
of them back to back. Now you
listen to the intro, which to me

935
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,910
is always when the anchor comes
out to that. That's the

936
00:56:44,910 --> 00:56:49,410
headline. So this is a
misleading headline by ABC. And

937
00:56:49,410 --> 00:56:52,230
then it's corrected in the main
part of the story. But I think

938
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:54,720
by then it's already ingrained
in your brain that they're out

939
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,110
to get Trump and he's under he's
under investigation. The snake

940
00:56:58,110 --> 00:56:59,010
comes as sources

941
00:56:59,010 --> 00:57:02,340
a special counsel Robert Muller
told the president's legal team

942
00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:04,980
in recent weeks that he was
under investigation,

943
00:57:05,009 --> 00:57:07,589
President Trump has been
informed by Robert Muller's

944
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:11,399
team, that he is not at this
point, a criminal target of the

945
00:57:11,399 --> 00:57:14,669
investigation. But he is a
subject of the investigation.

946
00:57:14,669 --> 00:57:18,029
And therefore, Muller wants to
interview him a subject

947
00:57:18,030 --> 00:57:18,510
Yes.

948
00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:19,560
Oh, please.

949
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:25,109
I thought this was incredibly
misleading. And this is just the

950
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:29,039
lowest of the day. This is
really reaching down there ABC

951
00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:31,769
trying to compete, I guess, with
NBC has really gone off the deep

952
00:57:31,769 --> 00:57:32,819
end on this stuff.

953
00:57:33,180 --> 00:57:36,660
Well, it must be ratings. It's
got to be good somehow,

954
00:57:36,660 --> 00:57:39,900
somewhere. I think you just you
just got to pepper every story

955
00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:40,050
with

956
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,180
I don't think it's good for
ratings at all. I don't see that

957
00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:45,780
the ratings are doing that.
Well. ABC is the number one of

958
00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:50,040
the group. Yeah, supposedly,
yeah. But I don't know that

959
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,640
their ratings are going about
proving but for sure. Liars. We

960
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,630
barely have any news in this
country. In our country. We

961
00:57:57,630 --> 00:58:01,380
barely have any news. I agree.
It's just It's just Oh, Trump,

962
00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:05,190
Trump, Trump, Muller, blah,
blah, blah. Hey, but what did

963
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:10,650
you think of our DHS Secretary
Christian Nielsen? I'm liking

964
00:58:10,650 --> 00:58:15,840
her. i It's this this woman she
was in that clip. She Yeah,

965
00:58:15,870 --> 00:58:21,150
that's why I asked. She has
skills. She's very pretty.

966
00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:26,760
Pretty. And she handles
adversarial questions. So

967
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,440
expertly. This could be a pro
this could be a president she

968
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,710
has President written all over
listen to Says the guy asked

969
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:37,830
some asshole question like the
President get that idea from

970
00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:41,190
watching the Morning Show Fox
and Friends with some bullshit

971
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:44,850
like that. Listen to how she
does this. With just questions

972
00:58:44,850 --> 00:58:48,810
this. This is the 440 a day of
the Trump administration. He

973
00:58:48,810 --> 00:58:51,300
talked about the urgency of it
being April. But there's a lot

974
00:58:51,300 --> 00:58:53,610
of speculation in the country
that this might have something

975
00:58:53,610 --> 00:58:56,130
to do with something that
presidents on television on

976
00:58:56,130 --> 00:58:59,310
Sunday morning. Nothing to do
with the fact that President

977
00:58:59,310 --> 00:59:01,980
wants to shore up support
amongst his political base. Can

978
00:59:01,980 --> 00:59:03,600
you speak to that speculation?
Is it true?

979
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,050
I think what is true is the
President is frustrated. He has

980
00:59:07,050 --> 00:59:10,290
been very clear that he wants to
secure our border. He's been

981
00:59:10,290 --> 00:59:13,830
very, very clear to the question
expertly that in a bipartisan

982
00:59:13,830 --> 00:59:16,830
way with Congress, I think what
you're seeing is the President

983
00:59:16,830 --> 00:59:20,430
taking his job very seriously,
in terms of securing our border

984
00:59:20,430 --> 00:59:23,880
and doing everything we can
without Congress to do just

985
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,760
that. But I do hope as soon as
Congress comes back that I can

986
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,330
work with them

987
00:59:29,730 --> 00:59:31,890
on working on this planet, for
how long have you personally

988
00:59:31,890 --> 00:59:32,040
been

989
00:59:32,190 --> 00:59:34,800
weak, you know, it's always on
the table. It's been done before

990
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,890
as you know, it's been done
before it's nothing new. It's

991
00:59:37,890 --> 00:59:40,410
one of many things that we have
looked at we're in continuing

992
00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:42,930
conversations with the governors
This is a partnership as you

993
00:59:42,930 --> 00:59:47,250
know. So we it's not new. We're
just go walking through all of

994
00:59:47,250 --> 00:59:49,380
the things that we can do. I
listed some of the ones that we

995
00:59:49,380 --> 00:59:51,540
have done, we can provide you
brothers.

996
00:59:51,690 --> 00:59:56,460
She needs a little bit of help
on the vocal fry. And she has a

997
00:59:56,910 --> 01:00:00,120
she elongate some stuff without
frying which is also not are

998
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,090
attractive but I think once she
gets rid of that

999
01:00:03,150 --> 01:00:08,550
she's good at very soft, soft
what I call a soft pedaled

1000
01:00:08,580 --> 01:00:13,020
insult yes that's your soft
pedaled insult is the use of as

1001
01:00:13,020 --> 01:00:16,980
you know, as you know yes.
Because when you say as you know

1002
01:00:16,980 --> 01:00:20,610
it's really saying you already
know this I don't know why

1003
01:00:20,610 --> 01:00:23,010
you're asking me this stupid
question.

1004
01:00:23,850 --> 01:00:27,330
Very very subtle well done a
micro aggression for sure

1005
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,560
it's a micro aggression that's
exactly what it is, as you know

1006
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,740
as you know it's a micro micro
aggression she's good

1007
01:00:34,740 --> 01:00:39,600
at it I'm a fan. Let's see Let's
see how she does she She's

1008
01:00:39,630 --> 01:00:42,930
She looks good at it she doesn't
seem to get rattled. And I think

1009
01:00:42,930 --> 01:00:46,620
the newer girl is seems to be
bullish. She's I think she's

1010
01:00:46,620 --> 01:00:51,300
been promoted so we're not gonna
see her so much. They've got

1011
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,830
he's got a lot a bevy of women
that do the front work the

1012
01:00:55,830 --> 01:00:59,790
massage study, is it the massage
is that he is he's hired all

1013
01:00:59,790 --> 01:01:00,600
these women problem

1014
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,750
is they're all pretty this
included. Yeah. Well, no, I

1015
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:04,530
guess not all

1016
01:01:05,070 --> 01:01:08,820
but it's beside the point
because they all are effective.

1017
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,320
And it's, you know, I think it's
a result of doing a very good

1018
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,800
job of surrounding himself with
women who are effective at

1019
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:21,780
delivering the message without
being like, Obama had guys like

1020
01:01:21,810 --> 01:01:27,720
Kirby and these other dicks just
had an insult. Josh Josh

1021
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:31,710
Earnest, earnest and there's
another one besides Kirby that

1022
01:01:31,710 --> 01:01:34,380
other get Tanner Tanner's. Yeah,
the

1023
01:01:34,380 --> 01:01:36,630
first guy was Kearney. Oh, no,

1024
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:38,520
no, I'm talking about the gaffer
the Defense Department with

1025
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,480
KIRBY Yeah, Kurt was toner toner
or Tanner I can't remember s but

1026
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,840
he was a clone it Kirby was an
ex Admiral. So he had the

1027
01:01:46,110 --> 01:01:51,600
classic arrogance of a Navy
officer. And he just exuded it.

1028
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:56,280
He was terrible. Yeah. No
offense to all your navy

1029
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,020
officers know what I'm talking
about. They know they

1030
01:01:58,020 --> 01:01:58,560
understand.

1031
01:01:58,860 --> 01:02:01,350
And then just just before we
take our break, did you see

1032
01:02:01,350 --> 01:02:02,940
Jesus Christ Superstar live?

1033
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,760
Not I did on Broadway years ago.
No,

1034
01:02:08,759 --> 01:02:11,579
it was on TV. It was the big
Easter Sunday television

1035
01:02:11,579 --> 01:02:14,639
extravaganza. Oh, this was
really good. Oh, I'm surprised

1036
01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:18,839
you didn't. I hadn't it was a
blowout and a nine and a half

1037
01:02:18,839 --> 01:02:22,499
million viewers. Was that that
Alice Cooper is

1038
01:02:23,820 --> 01:02:29,280
King Herod Yeah. And basically
he wasn't acting he just was out

1039
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:29,730
I didn't

1040
01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:33,870
even know it was on I moved
somehow to bed. Oh, it was I

1041
01:02:33,870 --> 01:02:35,160
would have probably watched it
John

1042
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:40,080
Legend was Jesus we have black
baby Jesus. Yeah, it was it was

1043
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,160
really quite honestly, I was.
What I didn't realize is that I

1044
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,340
grew up with this with the
double album which came before

1045
01:02:47,340 --> 01:02:51,000
the play was just an album some
freaks put together back in the

1046
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,510
hippie days my parents had that
one of those big wooden

1047
01:02:56,460 --> 01:02:59,430
furniture cabinets in the living
room and you open up the top and

1048
01:02:59,430 --> 01:03:02,010
there was the turntable and you
put the put it you know you had

1049
01:03:02,010 --> 01:03:06,600
to maybe it even came up on some
kind of fake hydraulics. And

1050
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,270
then the speakers were in the
cabinet and I'd listened to that

1051
01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:12,600
and I knew all the words still
it was very very odd I had no

1052
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,270
idea that that that people would
still even give a crap about

1053
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:19,620
that yes, for sure you didn't

1054
01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:22,830
apparently did and with that

1055
01:03:22,830 --> 01:03:25,260
I'd like to thank you for your
courage and say in the morning

1056
01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:31,290
to you John. JC superstars what
it stands for Devorah back

1057
01:03:31,380 --> 01:03:33,750
in the morning you and Mr. Adam
curry in the morning to all

1058
01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:36,690
ships at sea and boots on the
ground also the subs in the

1059
01:03:36,690 --> 01:03:39,270
water the feet in the air and a
games in the nights out there.

1060
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:39,660
Yes

1061
01:03:39,660 --> 01:03:43,050
in the morning to our troll
room. Hello trolls no agenda.

1062
01:03:43,050 --> 01:03:45,960
stream.com is where everybody
congregates for the live stream

1063
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,530
and chat on Sundays and
Thursdays. And I'd also like to

1064
01:03:49,530 --> 01:03:54,690
say a big Hey, oh. In the
morning to comic strip blogger,

1065
01:03:54,690 --> 01:03:59,880
he brought us the artwork for
episode 1021 Sun burps tide love

1066
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:04,170
it. This was we thought it was
very funny. This was the pager

1067
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,320
with no agenda on it for my new
OTG status.

1068
01:04:09,570 --> 01:04:10,290
Off the Grid

1069
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,720
Yep, that's me. I am OTG I
thought

1070
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:17,310
that was an April Fool's joke no
saw. See now I was told by comic

1071
01:04:17,310 --> 01:04:23,100
strip blogger that I was made a
fool of. And everybody in the

1072
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:27,030
chat room agreed that was an
April fool's game. Doing really

1073
01:04:27,030 --> 01:04:32,130
Yes. Yeah. No, no, we have no
intention of doing any of this

1074
01:04:32,130 --> 01:04:35,370
stuff. You were just you were
just making an idiot out of me

1075
01:04:35,370 --> 01:04:37,140
by going on and on about it. No,
I

1076
01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:39,930
would have done something
creative like edited an old

1077
01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:43,380
overview. To make me sound like
I

1078
01:04:43,650 --> 01:04:44,970
just typed it up. Yeah.

1079
01:04:47,580 --> 01:04:50,610
Yeah, I do have an OTG update
later. This has hit a nerve. I

1080
01:04:50,610 --> 01:04:51,600
want to talk to you about it.

1081
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:52,680
Oh, God.

1082
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,570
You sound so excited. The man
who gets excited about being

1083
01:04:57,570 --> 01:05:02,730
above the fold and Sioux City I
can't stand and OTG report.

1084
01:05:03,959 --> 01:05:06,869
You go we need a jingle if he
had a jingle I feel better about

1085
01:05:06,869 --> 01:05:07,499
it. Okay,

1086
01:05:07,530 --> 01:05:09,480
I'm sure I'm sure this will
happen.

1087
01:05:12,750 --> 01:05:16,590
Well, we do have to, we only
have to have curiously we had my

1088
01:05:16,590 --> 01:05:19,320
birthday, but my birthday drew
all the attention or whatever it

1089
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:24,090
literally is. And so we didn't
get very many executive and

1090
01:05:24,090 --> 01:05:26,940
associated executive producers.
In fact, we got one of each.

1091
01:05:27,570 --> 01:05:31,650
Okay, so we got Stephen Fettig,
who will be this a executive

1092
01:05:31,650 --> 01:05:36,990
producer, Sir Stephen. And he
says, John, this is an honor of

1093
01:05:36,990 --> 01:05:43,140
your birthday and the Sixth
Amendment. So he gave $660.66.

1094
01:05:43,170 --> 01:05:44,670
What is the sixth amendment?

1095
01:05:45,630 --> 01:05:49,530
I don't know. I didn't look it
up. I think it has something to

1096
01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:52,320
do work, apparently, is he? It
has something to do with what he

1097
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,080
just says, which is I love my
right to a speedy and public

1098
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,900
trial by an impartial jury.
There you go when confronted

1099
01:05:57,900 --> 01:06:02,160
with the witnesses against me?
Yes, it has to do with that you

1100
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,790
can look it up. And I love John
for his ever continuing

1101
01:06:05,790 --> 01:06:11,610
witticisms and petulant insight.
tetravalent nice, petulant and

1102
01:06:11,610 --> 01:06:15,480
not just insight petulant is a
racist term, by the way. It

1103
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,870
could be remember and then and
then it the

1104
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:25,410
Romney was petulant. He did.
Yeah, he said, Obama's petulant.

1105
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,660
And then that was seen as racist
because petulant, assumes child

1106
01:06:30,690 --> 01:06:34,740
assumes boy assumes racism.
Yeah, it was great.

1107
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:43,110
I remember that. Those were the
days that just Japan asked. Yes.

1108
01:06:43,260 --> 01:06:48,180
how she's doing. And we know,
but she gave to her $22.22 He's

1109
01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:51,180
in Tokyo Of course. And yes,
there John Happy Birthday. From

1110
01:06:51,180 --> 01:06:54,840
every level in life. The view is
another one. But the higher you

1111
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,440
get, the better the view. Best
wishes. He said, When you have

1112
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:04,410
cataracts, best wishes, always
damn Astrid and the Dutchess of

1113
01:07:04,410 --> 01:07:07,230
Japan and the disputed islands
in the jab pans. See?

1114
01:07:07,260 --> 01:07:10,560
That's right and good to hear
from her. I follow sir mark on

1115
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,320
the face bag. So they're doing
all kinds they're opening up

1116
01:07:13,350 --> 01:07:14,790
seems like a building a month.

1117
01:07:15,150 --> 01:07:17,880
Yeah, they will also get a bunch
of intellectual tours

1118
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:21,090
and they got awards and you
know, there's stuff and then

1119
01:07:21,090 --> 01:07:24,120
still they have to show they
still have time to listen to the

1120
01:07:24,180 --> 01:07:30,660
mall cops. Do they really? Just
get the newsletter? Dan send the

1121
01:07:30,660 --> 01:07:31,260
guy check.

1122
01:07:34,020 --> 01:07:34,860
The way I see it.

1123
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:39,660
No, Dame Astrid listens
religiously? I am sure of and

1124
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:43,470
Esther Mark has to because he
travels so much. He's on planes

1125
01:07:43,740 --> 01:07:46,410
to traveling a lot. Yeah, it's a
good excuse. You might as well

1126
01:07:46,410 --> 01:07:50,220
just listen. All right. Well,
that's that's it. Those are two

1127
01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:54,720
fact if you take all of Dame
asteroids time that she spends

1128
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,360
listening to the show, she could
probably it's probably one

1129
01:07:57,390 --> 01:08:01,320
building. Building One bill. One
building a year they don't open.

1130
01:08:04,770 --> 01:08:06,870
That's it. Yeah, that's it.

1131
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,570
Okay. Well, I look forward to
all the other birthday.

1132
01:08:09,570 --> 01:08:11,940
Congratulations coming up. It's
a very special day. And we're

1133
01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:14,250
very happy and we take birthdays
very seriously in the

1134
01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:16,110
Netherlands. John, we we
decorate the

1135
01:08:16,110 --> 01:08:18,960
chair and it was just worried it
was sitting around in a circle.

1136
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,300
Yes. stares at each other? Yes.
And drinks coffee

1137
01:08:21,300 --> 01:08:24,030
and has little pieces of cake.
And then we have the same

1138
01:08:24,030 --> 01:08:26,610
conversation that we had at the
last birthday. We sat in a

1139
01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:29,610
circle. That's how it goes. Yes.
And it's a lot I

1140
01:08:29,610 --> 01:08:33,030
know people have described it.
You're not the only Dutch person

1141
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:37,620
I know. And they described. I'm
not the worst. Well, you're

1142
01:08:37,620 --> 01:08:42,030
right, you're not Dutch. But
you're, you're a faux Dutch. But

1143
01:08:42,030 --> 01:08:46,170
they all describe the scene and
it just sounds like the worst

1144
01:08:46,170 --> 01:08:47,340
thing imaginable.

1145
01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:51,660
But then there's an upside to
the Dutch because every Dutch

1146
01:08:51,660 --> 01:08:55,320
household has a calendar hanging
in the bathroom in the guest

1147
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,680
bathroom. And it has a little
string and a little pencil or a

1148
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,710
pen. And the idea is when you're
sitting there doing your

1149
01:09:01,710 --> 01:09:04,950
business you write down on the
calendar, your your your name on

1150
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:07,980
the date. And so when you sit
there you also have something to

1151
01:09:07,980 --> 01:09:12,810
do like oh, yes, exactly. And
you can see whose birthday is

1152
01:09:12,810 --> 01:09:17,730
coming up. It's this is this is
how the this is Dutch face bag

1153
01:09:17,730 --> 01:09:18,330
basically,

1154
01:09:18,809 --> 01:09:21,029
when you pull on the string is
also flush.

1155
01:09:23,310 --> 01:09:26,130
We want to thank our executive
producer and Associate Executive

1156
01:09:26,130 --> 01:09:28,620
Producer they know that these
credits are real and I'm sure

1157
01:09:28,620 --> 01:09:31,110
they've used them many times.
Certainly on their building

1158
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:33,510
pitches day master we'll
probably put sneak that in there

1159
01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:37,320
somewhere. I know I know. I know
her will be thanking more people

1160
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,840
more birthday wishes coming up
later on. And remember we have

1161
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:45,720
another show coming up on Sunday
for.org/and A so you have plenty

1162
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,600
of time in the meantime to be
out there propagating our

1163
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:49,440
formula our

1164
01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:53,580
formula is this. We go out for
yet people in the

1165
01:09:53,580 --> 01:10:09,420
mouth what So is it common in
Holland to take a poop in

1166
01:10:09,450 --> 01:10:14,880
somebody else's bathroom? Just
whenever you show up? Right on

1167
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:15,660
the calendar?

1168
01:10:16,710 --> 01:10:20,880
I think this is probably more
women do this than men, just

1169
01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:24,480
naturally speaking, depends on
the placement. You know,

1170
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:27,030
sometimes the calendar can be
writing it depends on how tall

1171
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:33,120
you are. If you can see it or
not, or if you guys would make

1172
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,490
more sense it was on the back
wall of the of the of the

1173
01:10:35,490 --> 01:10:38,370
bathroom, you know, then you can
let us know you got one hand

1174
01:10:38,370 --> 01:10:45,750
free, or some of us do I doubt.
Right. Oh, I'm so happy. I've

1175
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:51,150
made that joke. Let me see.
Yeah, you just OTG for a second.

1176
01:10:51,810 --> 01:10:55,530
Okay, I'm ready. A lot of
response to my idea of getting a

1177
01:10:55,530 --> 01:10:58,380
pager which should have been
delivered yesterday, sadly, was

1178
01:10:58,380 --> 01:11:02,490
delayed so it's coming in today.
So I got the pager. Yeah, the

1179
01:11:02,490 --> 01:11:07,650
two way pager so I can send and
receive SMS text and email. And

1180
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,640
a lot of people would like to
please document this. I want to

1181
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,140
do the same thing. Oh, it's

1182
01:11:13,140 --> 01:11:14,430
I mean, I smell a giblet

1183
01:11:14,460 --> 01:11:18,540
I've the giblet is, I think for
sure. Also, I learned about this

1184
01:11:18,570 --> 01:11:22,380
purism outfit, and they make
they have a phone coming out

1185
01:11:22,380 --> 01:11:26,190
with the crowdsourcing libram
Five I think. And it's a it's

1186
01:11:26,220 --> 01:11:30,360
just a it's a phone. And it has
like physical hardware switches

1187
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,330
to turn off the radio. So
there's no like a real toggle

1188
01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:37,710
switch that cuts off power to
that part of the device. You

1189
01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:40,560
know has no spyware I guess
Richard Stallman is going to

1190
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,850
bless it, you know, all the all
the things you want to make your

1191
01:11:44,850 --> 01:11:48,000
calls, but mainly intended to
use stuff over the top. So all

1192
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,260
Wi Fi, and they have specific Wi
Fi chips is very, very

1193
01:11:52,260 --> 01:11:56,640
interesting. And the more you
are aware of the things people

1194
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,860
are doing, the more aware you
become of what's really being

1195
01:11:58,860 --> 01:12:04,650
done to you. What kind of
amazing pieces of information

1196
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,910
about you are just flowing. So
it's even gotten to the point

1197
01:12:08,910 --> 01:12:13,200
where one of our producers who
used to own a ri I guess a local

1198
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,520
or regional telephone company.
He says I'd like to come out of

1199
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,930
retirement and you know, we'll
white label a pager company.

1200
01:12:22,860 --> 01:12:24,720
We're going to make pagers hip
again.

1201
01:12:27,210 --> 01:12:29,400
Yes, this was your earlier
assertion.

1202
01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:33,240
I think if if we could get new
devices, maybe a crowd fund a

1203
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,120
new page or device, make it
something cool. I think the kids

1204
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,330
might go for it. And then you'll
have some mobile crap social and

1205
01:12:39,330 --> 01:12:43,740
social thing in there. So they
can text each other, you know,

1206
01:12:43,740 --> 01:12:48,960
like group text. pretty colors
now? Maybe not.

1207
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:55,320
But it could be something.
There's a it has potential. But

1208
01:12:56,910 --> 01:12:58,380
I stick with the word potential.

1209
01:12:58,410 --> 01:13:05,100
Yes, I gotcha. But just speaking
of your data being taken, being

1210
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:08,880
used this showed up on now, you
know, this building, what do you

1211
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:09,600
bring in for

1212
01:13:09,900 --> 01:13:12,090
not just rank because the data
is being used?

1213
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,410
It is the new bacon after all. I
gotta keep that in there. I keep

1214
01:13:16,410 --> 01:13:19,710
using that. Let's see this one.

1215
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,550
That's what I'm ringing for. And
we go on.

1216
01:13:24,179 --> 01:13:30,689
Okay. I think Where's I have it
here. Yes. So my building has

1217
01:13:30,869 --> 01:13:33,749
Nest thermostats pre installed.

1218
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:39,300
Yeah. Which I think is just
dumb. Yeah. So I have the app,

1219
01:13:39,330 --> 01:13:41,580
this thing's get devil cameras
are spying on you?

1220
01:13:41,730 --> 01:13:45,930
Well, it gets a little bit
better. I also have a nest

1221
01:13:45,930 --> 01:13:49,830
camera that I had in the
airstream, which I took out of

1222
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:52,860
the Airstream. So it's not
connected to anything, but it's

1223
01:13:52,860 --> 01:13:56,910
still in my possession. And all
of a sudden, the the app for the

1224
01:13:56,910 --> 01:14:00,360
nest, which you know, i all i Of
course, you have to connect it

1225
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:05,760
to Wi Fi. It pops up a message
and I took a screenshot. And

1226
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,740
it's gonna be in the show notes,
but I want to share it with you.

1227
01:14:08,370 --> 01:14:11,340
So it says and it was very
confusing because I just showed

1228
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:14,130
it to Tina and she didn't
understand. It says a client has

1229
01:14:14,130 --> 01:14:18,750
been updated. A client is
requesting new permissions. Now

1230
01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:26,610
to Tina, she's like, like a
customer, or you know, it's a

1231
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:32,130
typical says a stupid opening
for a message. And then the next

1232
01:14:32,130 --> 01:14:34,980
line is Google Assistant has
been updated and would like to

1233
01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:38,220
do the following. Now I've never
set up google assistant. I don't

1234
01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:41,100
use google assistant. I wouldn't
even know where it is. I don't

1235
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:43,800
have a Google phone don't have
an Android phone. But it would

1236
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,010
like to do the following control
temperature and thermostat

1237
01:14:47,010 --> 01:14:49,860
settings which allows Google
Assistant to read and set your

1238
01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:53,370
Nest thermostat through voice.
Identify and connect to your

1239
01:14:53,370 --> 01:14:56,700
nest products allows Google
Assistant to be enabled in the

1240
01:14:56,700 --> 01:15:01,410
compatible nest devices. See
your cameras settings, receive

1241
01:15:01,410 --> 01:15:05,700
motion sound or familiar face
alerts and access live video,

1242
01:15:05,970 --> 01:15:09,810
which allows Google Assistant to
stream your nest camera. See or

1243
01:15:09,810 --> 01:15:14,010
a system security settings, view
sensor and alarm status and set

1244
01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:17,670
the alarm, which lets you use
your which lets you use your

1245
01:15:17,670 --> 01:15:20,700
Google Assistant to set the
alarm. The Google Assistant

1246
01:15:20,700 --> 01:15:23,190
connection may not work as
expected if you do not allow

1247
01:15:23,190 --> 01:15:26,880
this access, contact Google
Assistant if you have questions

1248
01:15:27,150 --> 01:15:32,880
allow. Now to an unsuspecting
person

1249
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,860
they have just allow is there
disallow?

1250
01:15:34,890 --> 01:15:40,080
No, there's no disallow What?
No. No block no nothing.

1251
01:15:44,610 --> 01:15:46,440
So can you just close that box?

1252
01:15:46,799 --> 01:15:50,009
Yeah, you can just back out of
the out of the notification. But

1253
01:15:50,819 --> 01:15:53,879
for the unsuspecting person,
you're given up a lot of

1254
01:15:53,879 --> 01:15:57,779
information, particularly the
camera part. Under the guise of

1255
01:15:57,779 --> 01:16:03,089
Oh, yeah, I can say hey, Google
Assistant, go you know, check on

1256
01:16:03,089 --> 01:16:07,379
the house. And whatever. This
very,

1257
01:16:07,470 --> 01:16:11,010
any go look at Bill's house. Is
there a camera in the bedroom?

1258
01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:11,340
Google?

1259
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,080
I would install a different if
it had that feature. That'd be

1260
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:16,470
great.

1261
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:20,700
Maybe it does?

1262
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,980
Yeah, who knows? But I just you
know, the amount of stuff that

1263
01:16:25,980 --> 01:16:28,950
is that is being done. And when
you really think about what you

1264
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:34,020
can do. It is really not much
escaping it. I mean, even if you

1265
01:16:34,020 --> 01:16:36,750
never had a face bag account, I
mean, it's just

1266
01:16:36,750 --> 01:16:39,690
that'd be me. Yeah, I don't have
a Google Assistant. That'd be

1267
01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:42,750
me. Yeah. I don't have a nest
thermostat or camera. That'd be

1268
01:16:42,750 --> 01:16:46,620
me. Yeah. So it's very easy to
escape. Yeah, by this junk

1269
01:16:46,650 --> 01:16:50,160
with this other stuff. There's
other stuff coming you have an

1270
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,790
Android phone. So whenever
whenever you do use it, you're

1271
01:16:53,790 --> 01:16:54,480
being tracked.

1272
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,860
Yes, yes, that's probably true.

1273
01:16:58,980 --> 01:17:01,470
And you know, I've been now they
found these mystery Stingray

1274
01:17:01,470 --> 01:17:04,950
devices all around Washington,
DC. No one knows who they belong

1275
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:09,030
to. The Stingray is it acts like
a cell tower and then sucks up

1276
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:12,180
everything that you've got. Your
data sucks up everything you

1277
01:17:12,180 --> 01:17:13,770
got, including your battery
power.

1278
01:17:14,490 --> 01:17:18,150
I think I told the story before
when JC buzzkill Jr was working

1279
01:17:18,150 --> 01:17:24,330
in the city. He was in a
location that was near the

1280
01:17:24,330 --> 01:17:28,590
Intercontinental, which was
where Obama was going to stay.

1281
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:34,710
Right. So they rolled into the
area and they set up shop or did

1282
01:17:34,710 --> 01:17:39,330
sugar service set up shop all
over the place and lit up a

1283
01:17:39,330 --> 01:17:43,920
whole slew of sting rays. Yeah.
And he says you can wash your

1284
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,260
phone battery dropped dead
because they were attaching

1285
01:17:46,260 --> 01:17:50,250
themselves to everything they
can get a hold of you just the

1286
01:17:50,250 --> 01:17:55,140
common Hello, I'm here signals.
Yeah. And then lock it on your

1287
01:17:55,140 --> 01:17:58,530
phone and then sucking
everything off to see if there

1288
01:17:58,530 --> 01:18:01,440
was anything you know any people
around that would you know, want

1289
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:06,120
to do harm to the president. And
he says he said you had to turn

1290
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,760
your phone's off. Otherwise you
get what try to get home with a

1291
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,910
dead battery. Right. A pretty
onerous

1292
01:18:11,940 --> 01:18:16,200
must be running some process
then, or just just opens up some

1293
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,200
floodgates. So just has
everything go out. I don't know.

1294
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:20,190
It seems kind of strange.

1295
01:18:20,190 --> 01:18:26,370
There's got to be a floodgate
the command? Yes, exactly. Sock

1296
01:18:26,370 --> 01:18:27,000
it to me.

1297
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,670
Well, there's other stuff. I'm
just collecting some of these

1298
01:18:29,670 --> 01:18:34,050
things that I find interesting.
Grindr. You're familiar with the

1299
01:18:34,050 --> 01:18:39,630
Grindr app, has now announced in
wake of this face bag Analytica

1300
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:43,980
that it will stop sharing users
HIV data with other companies.

1301
01:18:44,190 --> 01:18:45,660
Gee, thanks, Grindr.

1302
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:48,900
I got a kick out of that story
who

1303
01:18:48,900 --> 01:18:53,280
say you know, I got nothing to
hide. And maybe it shouldn't be

1304
01:18:53,490 --> 01:18:56,160
something shameful. But you
know, there's all sorts of

1305
01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:01,200
reasons you don't want companies
having that information. You

1306
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,050
know, getting a mortgage could
suck, just as an example.

1307
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:09,000
And then it all catches up to
you in the UK. It's all bad.

1308
01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:13,770
Yes. Get my nation east. This is
great. The fantastic NHS, the

1309
01:19:13,770 --> 01:19:17,550
national national health system.
In order to track down people in

1310
01:19:17,550 --> 01:19:20,580
Britain who may have broken
immigration rules. The

1311
01:19:20,580 --> 01:19:25,170
government is now turning to
doctors who work with refugees

1312
01:19:25,170 --> 01:19:29,070
and asylum seekers. And they're
just looking in their records.

1313
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,850
And the doctors have to share
that information.

1314
01:19:35,190 --> 01:19:37,830
They've done the same thing in
this country by requiring this a

1315
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:39,900
few years ago. I know my doctor
at the time

1316
01:19:40,230 --> 01:19:44,010
for you have to have all your
vaccinations and stuff and be a

1317
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:49,530
no, no, no, it was they required
everything to go on a computer.

1318
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,780
All the paper records ever Yes,
yes. You have any paper records

1319
01:19:54,780 --> 01:19:57,150
anymore. You couldn't sit there
and write your scribbling notes

1320
01:19:57,150 --> 01:19:59,970
to yourself. We've talked about
this a lot. Yeah, and it's

1321
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,680
Everything has to be on the
computer and if what's on the

1322
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,550
computer the music and it all be
you know mind? Yes. Oh yeah,

1323
01:20:05,550 --> 01:20:08,700
there's these rules against it
but are there? Yeah, I guess

1324
01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:13,290
they crack and see how this
stuff is just this week. Yeah,

1325
01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:16,170
they anyone thinks that no not
gonna just go through it

1326
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:20,310
to replay some of this
Zuckerberg interview.

1327
01:20:21,180 --> 01:20:24,900
Yeah I have so some of it. You
have one Yeah, I

1328
01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:29,610
actually put a lot of time into
this. Just Okay. Which doesn't

1329
01:20:29,610 --> 01:20:34,020
mean the law. I can just like oh
my god, he's got a little off.

1330
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,340
This was a 45 minute interview
with Ezra Klein hero, right.

1331
01:20:38,370 --> 01:20:41,850
Ezra Klein hero of the what did
I call your journalist friends

1332
01:20:41,850 --> 01:20:42,690
again, I forgot.

1333
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,540
Wasn't live. It wasn't live.
Live Joe's live Joe's.

1334
01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:52,710
He is the hero of the live
Joe's. Oh, thank you for

1335
01:20:52,710 --> 01:20:57,060
remembering that good one hero
of the lip Joe's. And of course,

1336
01:20:57,060 --> 01:20:59,550
you know, President Obama said
what? No, no, was that? No, that

1337
01:20:59,550 --> 01:21:03,120
was Marc Maron. What is it is
reclined isn't just an NPR guy

1338
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:03,840
gone rogue?

1339
01:21:04,530 --> 01:21:06,300
I don't know. I don't know
anymore.

1340
01:21:06,660 --> 01:21:13,500
I think he is. He sat down with
the Zuck. And let's first listen

1341
01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:17,490
to it. This is all about
elections,

1342
01:21:17,550 --> 01:21:20,400
I think was more than 30,000
accounts. And I think the

1343
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,250
reports out of out of France
were that people felt like that

1344
01:21:23,250 --> 01:21:27,090
was a much cleaner election on
on social media a few months

1345
01:21:27,090 --> 01:21:30,570
later, there were the German
elections. And there, we

1346
01:21:30,570 --> 01:21:34,590
augmented the playbook again, to
work directly with the election

1347
01:21:34,590 --> 01:21:35,580
commission in Germany.

1348
01:21:35,850 --> 01:21:38,820
Wait a minute, I thought that
they said both in France and

1349
01:21:38,820 --> 01:21:41,640
Germany, we had nothing but
reports that, you know, there

1350
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,080
was all kinds of shenanigans.

1351
01:21:45,540 --> 01:21:47,910
That's what I was led to believe
by the media.

1352
01:21:47,940 --> 01:21:51,750
Well, the shenanigans seems that
the face bag was colluding,

1353
01:21:52,530 --> 01:21:53,820
colluding with governments.

1354
01:21:53,850 --> 01:21:57,390
Right. The idea is that it as an
internet company will have the

1355
01:21:57,390 --> 01:22:00,750
ability to see some of the
content that's in some of the

1356
01:22:00,750 --> 01:22:02,850
issues that that might be
happening in an election. But if

1357
01:22:02,850 --> 01:22:05,490
you work with the government in
a country, they'll really

1358
01:22:05,490 --> 01:22:08,160
actually have a fuller
understanding of what's going

1359
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,380
on, and what are all the issues
that we would need to focus on.

1360
01:22:10,380 --> 01:22:14,100
And, again, by working with the
German government, we were able

1361
01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:17,550
to focus on a few specific
issues. And I think there again,

1362
01:22:17,610 --> 01:22:20,490
people felt a lot better about
how that election went on social

1363
01:22:20,490 --> 01:22:25,410
media, any collusion for to last
year 2017. In the special

1364
01:22:25,410 --> 01:22:29,430
election in Alabama, we deployed
a number of new tools we'd

1365
01:22:29,670 --> 01:22:33,030
developed to to find fake
accounts who were trying to

1366
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:37,050
spread false news. And we got
them off before a lot of the

1367
01:22:37,050 --> 01:22:40,110
discussion around the election.
And again, I think we felt a lot

1368
01:22:40,110 --> 01:22:41,160
better about the result there.

1369
01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:44,040
So it sounds to me when you say

1370
01:22:44,220 --> 01:22:46,230
better because it was a
Democrat. Yes.

1371
01:22:46,230 --> 01:22:48,690
That's exactly what he's saying.
We felt a lot better about the

1372
01:22:48,690 --> 01:22:52,950
result there after we deployed
our new tools. I mean, I'm

1373
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:56,190
sorry, as Rob, but as an NPR,
dude, you should have followed

1374
01:22:56,190 --> 01:22:59,370
up on that. Like, what do you
mean? I mean, you felt good, did

1375
01:22:59,370 --> 01:23:03,990
you? You're happy that the
Democrat one. And guess what I

1376
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:06,480
would ask What were these new
tools that you deployed?

1377
01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:09,270
Anyway, I would ask that too.

1378
01:23:09,450 --> 01:23:17,490
Now we know from the promo, the
house ads on MSNBC that there's

1379
01:23:17,490 --> 01:23:22,590
a recode interview coming up
between Kara Swisher Trisha and

1380
01:23:23,670 --> 01:23:29,400
the other lesbian, Chris Hayes.
See, I did that. And Tim Cook.

1381
01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:30,000
And we've seen

1382
01:23:30,330 --> 01:23:32,850
it works very well, except for
the fact that you that you

1383
01:23:32,850 --> 01:23:37,620
called yourself out. I just want
to remind you that it's probably

1384
01:23:37,620 --> 01:23:43,500
not kosher. You had a good line?
Yeah, I'm an idiot. Well, I'm

1385
01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:46,170
just saying you shouldn't have
to know about your goose.

1386
01:23:46,170 --> 01:23:46,770
prowers.

1387
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:51,090
Good point. But I needed someone
to hit the like button.

1388
01:23:52,170 --> 01:23:54,930
Next time you do that, just say
the whole thing again, I'll give

1389
01:23:54,930 --> 01:23:56,310
you I'll give you what you need.
Okay.

1390
01:23:57,480 --> 01:24:02,190
So it was an interview between
Kara Swisher and then who's the

1391
01:24:02,190 --> 01:24:03,930
other lesbian, Chris Hayes.

1392
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:07,590
actually hit it the wrong way.

1393
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:16,410
It's your great moment. Sorry.
And in this, we know from the

1394
01:24:16,410 --> 01:24:20,070
promo material that Tim Cook
said, you know, the question

1395
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:22,620
was, what would you do if you
were Mark Zuckerberg in this in

1396
01:24:22,620 --> 01:24:24,840
this situation? He says, I
wouldn't get into it. This would

1397
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,960
this wouldn't happen to me. This
scenario wouldn't happen to me.

1398
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,960
So we need a response from Zach.
Here it is one

1399
01:24:30,990 --> 01:24:33,360
one of the things that has been
coming up a lot in the

1400
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:37,350
conversation is whether the
business model of roughly

1401
01:24:37,350 --> 01:24:41,190
monetizing user attention is
what is letting in a lot of

1402
01:24:41,190 --> 01:24:43,920
these problems. Tim Cook, the
CEO of Apple gave, gave an

1403
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,380
interview the other day, and he
was asked, What would you do if

1404
01:24:46,380 --> 01:24:49,680
you were in Mark Zuckerberg
shoes? He said, I would not be

1405
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,130
in Mark Zuckerberg shoes. Apple
sells products to users. It

1406
01:24:53,130 --> 01:24:56,640
doesn't sell users to
advertisers. And so it's a

1407
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,860
sounder business model that
doesn't open itself to these

1408
01:24:58,860 --> 01:25:01,620
problems. Do you Part of the
problem here is the business

1409
01:25:01,620 --> 01:25:05,940
model where a tension ends up
dominating above all else. And

1410
01:25:05,940 --> 01:25:11,670
so anything that can engage does
have at least some powerful

1411
01:25:11,670 --> 01:25:13,110
value within the ecosystem.

1412
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:18,060
You know, I find that argument
that if you're not paying that,

1413
01:25:18,060 --> 01:25:23,370
somehow, we can't care about you
to be extremely glib, but and,

1414
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,030
and not at all aligned with the
truth. You know, the reality

1415
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:30,480
here is that, if you want to
build a service that helps

1416
01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:33,600
connect everyone in the world,
then there are a lot of people

1417
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:38,310
who can't afford to pay. And
therefore, as with a lot of

1418
01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:42,600
media, having an advertising
supported model is the only

1419
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:47,220
rational model that that can
support, building the service to

1420
01:25:47,340 --> 01:25:50,520
reach people, because you're
also for that we're not

1421
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,930
primarily focused on on serving
people, I think, probably to the

1422
01:25:55,290 --> 01:25:58,860
dissatisfaction of our sales
team here, I'll make all of our

1423
01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:02,010
decisions based on what's going
to matter to our community and

1424
01:26:02,010 --> 01:26:05,070
improve the experience and focus
much less, you know, in very

1425
01:26:05,070 --> 01:26:09,690
little on the advertising side
of the of the business. But I

1426
01:26:09,690 --> 01:26:13,890
mean, look, if you want to build
a service, which is not just

1427
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:18,270
serving rich people, then you
need to have something that

1428
01:26:18,270 --> 01:26:19,230
people can afford.

1429
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:23,280
Oh, wait a minute, Rich. Well,
can I be on the rich people face

1430
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,830
bag? This sounds like sounds
like another business

1431
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:29,850
opportunity, John, Face Face
Book for rich people.

1432
01:26:30,030 --> 01:26:34,200
You know, I thought Jeff Bezos
had an excellent saying on this

1433
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,050
one in one of his Kindle
launches a number of years back,

1434
01:26:37,050 --> 01:26:40,620
he said, there are companies
that work hard to charge you

1435
01:26:40,620 --> 01:26:43,560
more. And there are companies
that work hard to charge you

1436
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:48,540
less. And at Facebook, we are
squarely in the camp of the

1437
01:26:48,540 --> 01:26:52,230
companies that work hard to
charge you less and provide a

1438
01:26:52,230 --> 01:26:55,770
free service that everyone can
use. I don't think at all that

1439
01:26:55,770 --> 01:26:58,980
that means that that we don't
care about people. I think to

1440
01:26:58,980 --> 01:27:01,920
the contrary, I think it's
important that we don't all get

1441
01:27:01,950 --> 01:27:05,250
Stockholm syndrome, and let the
companies that work hard to

1442
01:27:05,250 --> 01:27:07,980
charge you more convinced you
that they actually care more

1443
01:27:07,980 --> 01:27:08,490
about you.

1444
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:13,770
I see when he said that I'm
like, Oh, hold on a second. He's

1445
01:27:13,770 --> 01:27:18,990
worried about the Stockholm
Syndrome. He's worried about it

1446
01:27:18,990 --> 01:27:23,610
getting out of control. You
don't think so?

1447
01:27:24,690 --> 01:27:28,170
I can't say one way or the
other. I just think it's weird

1448
01:27:28,170 --> 01:27:31,950
that he dropped that bomb in
there like that, then is

1449
01:27:31,950 --> 01:27:33,060
obviously on his mind.

1450
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,270
Yeah, oh, of course, it has to
be. And he must be getting a lot

1451
01:27:36,270 --> 01:27:38,700
of heat, certainly from the
shareholder department, which

1452
01:27:38,700 --> 01:27:41,910
he's never really had. He's
always been the Darling. So now

1453
01:27:41,940 --> 01:27:44,040
the I know what it's like when
you miss a quarter or do

1454
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,010
something melts or just when the
stock price drops, you get you,

1455
01:27:47,190 --> 01:27:50,280
like, everyone's pissed off at
you. And especially the guys

1456
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:56,370
that you sucked up to so hard
when you did your IPO. Now, I

1457
01:27:56,370 --> 01:28:00,660
think this interview was
recorded before Facebook started

1458
01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:04,320
clarifying its Terms of Service,
which I haven't seen published

1459
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:08,220
yet. But I'm told it is there
was a little something in this

1460
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,060
short clip, which I'm surprised
declined at, well, not really

1461
01:28:12,060 --> 01:28:14,220
surprised, but client didn't
pick up on it, either. The

1462
01:28:14,220 --> 01:28:15,480
Myanmar issues

1463
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:19,560
have, I think, gotten a lot of
focus inside the company. And

1464
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,540
there, there are real issues.
And we take this really

1465
01:28:21,540 --> 01:28:25,440
seriously having one of the I
remember, one Saturday morning,

1466
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:30,480
got a phone call. And we
detected that people were trying

1467
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:35,610
to spread sensational messages
through it was Facebook

1468
01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:39,840
Messenger this case, to each
side of the conflict, basically

1469
01:28:40,110 --> 01:28:45,090
telling the Muslims, hey,
there's bound to be an uprising

1470
01:28:45,090 --> 01:28:48,390
of the Buddhists. So you know,
make sure that that you are

1471
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:51,900
armed and go to this place. And
then the same thing on the on

1472
01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:55,740
the other side. So that's the
kind of thing where I think it

1473
01:28:55,740 --> 01:29:01,380
is clear that people were trying
to use our tools in order to in

1474
01:29:01,380 --> 01:29:03,990
order to incite real harm. Now,
in that case, you know, we our

1475
01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:07,140
systems detect that that's going
on, we stopped those messages

1476
01:29:07,140 --> 01:29:10,200
from going through, and
hopefully we're able to, to

1477
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,050
prevent any kind of real world
harm there. But I mean, this is

1478
01:29:13,050 --> 01:29:15,330
certainly something that we're
paying a lot of attention to,

1479
01:29:15,540 --> 01:29:18,630
it's a real issue. And we want
to make sure that all of the

1480
01:29:18,630 --> 01:29:21,660
tools that we're bringing to
bear on on eliminating hate

1481
01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:24,780
speech, inciting violence, and
basically protecting the

1482
01:29:24,780 --> 01:29:28,500
integrity of civil discussions
that we're doing in places like

1483
01:29:28,500 --> 01:29:30,900
Myanmar as well as places like
the US that do get a

1484
01:29:30,900 --> 01:29:32,400
disproportionate amount of the
attention.

1485
01:29:32,850 --> 01:29:35,880
So my takeaway here is that they
are scanning messenger on

1486
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:42,180
everybody which is supposed to
be your private messaging there

1487
01:29:42,180 --> 01:29:46,200
so they're scanning through it
he just admitted that looking

1488
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:47,040
for hate speech I

1489
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,080
don't know how the system works
so I don't know what a private

1490
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,050
how the private messaging works.
Those aren't public message. Oh,

1491
01:29:52,590 --> 01:29:57,270
no. Messenger is Director
anything is a messenger spun out

1492
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:02,730
from face bag you can Oh longer
use it on your phone, or on the

1493
01:30:02,730 --> 01:30:07,380
web version, you have to get a
separate app. And that's your

1494
01:30:07,380 --> 01:30:10,410
direct message app. And you can
you can, you can put multiple,

1495
01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:14,220
like email, you can put multiple
people in the address field. But

1496
01:30:14,220 --> 01:30:17,010
it's private. It's not published
publicly. And so they're just

1497
01:30:17,010 --> 01:30:22,320
scanning that for, I guess,
keywords and then jumping in and

1498
01:30:22,350 --> 01:30:28,680
changing history. I mean, come
on, well, that can't

1499
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,620
be helping the business. But
then if I have a system that I

1500
01:30:31,620 --> 01:30:34,710
expect to get a private message
from, for me to you know,

1501
01:30:34,710 --> 01:30:35,340
they're scanning

1502
01:30:35,340 --> 01:30:41,130
with their AI. That's not the
worst of it. My final clip is

1503
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:45,900
really what this is all about.
It is a globalist tool, I'm

1504
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:51,750
sorry, platform with tools. And
Zuckerberg is driving it. Sure.

1505
01:30:51,810 --> 01:30:54,570
I mean, I think since I wrote
that we've we've certainly

1506
01:30:54,570 --> 01:30:54,840
learned,

1507
01:30:54,990 --> 01:30:59,700
he's discussing his 2017
manifesto, which I don't

1508
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,220
owe him and Bill Gates. Yeah,
that one more

1509
01:31:02,220 --> 01:31:05,460
about how to do this. But the
big thing that I was thinking

1510
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:10,410
about when I wrote that was how
the world coming closer together

1511
01:31:10,410 --> 01:31:14,010
is not a given word for most of
Facebook's existence in 2004.

1512
01:31:14,010 --> 01:31:19,530
When I got started, you know, if
you told me that people weren't

1513
01:31:19,530 --> 01:31:24,300
going to stop, keep connecting
more. Stop. Yeah, you can back

1514
01:31:24,300 --> 01:31:24,570
it up.

1515
01:31:25,230 --> 01:31:28,590
I know exactly what I'm gonna
say. In 2004, he started to pick

1516
01:31:28,590 --> 01:31:29,370
up chicks.

1517
01:31:31,230 --> 01:31:37,290
Well, when he said it, he said,
Start, Ted. He had two words. I

1518
01:31:37,290 --> 01:31:43,980
miss that. I'm thinking when I
start. He said when I start,

1519
01:31:45,180 --> 01:31:51,330
Ted. What was he thinking with
with start as opposed to

1520
01:31:51,330 --> 01:31:55,170
started? It was late again,
because it's just very strange.

1521
01:31:55,170 --> 01:31:56,640
This guy's like robot, it was a

1522
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,120
data throughput glitch. It was a
total glitch.

1523
01:32:00,809 --> 01:32:04,199
The world coming closer together
is not a given word for most of

1524
01:32:04,199 --> 01:32:07,619
Facebook's existence in 2004.
When I got started, no, he says,

1525
01:32:07,619 --> 01:32:11,729
I got started if you'd told me I
got started. wasn't that bad?

1526
01:32:13,170 --> 01:32:18,870
wasn't that bad? I think is
later he was what? Okay, maybe

1527
01:32:18,900 --> 01:32:22,860
maybe that was it. But that it
was it was more of a glitch and

1528
01:32:23,610 --> 01:32:30,150
as a data throughput glues meat
in your brain, well, packets

1529
01:32:30,150 --> 01:32:30,810
received, okay,

1530
01:32:30,810 --> 01:32:36,360
here we go. That people weren't
going to keep connecting more,

1531
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,420
and that it wouldn't be more
global cooperation. I mean, I

1532
01:32:39,420 --> 01:32:41,550
kind of taken that as a given
that the world would move in

1533
01:32:41,550 --> 01:32:44,070
that direction. I think, over
the last few years, the

1534
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:48,810
political reality has been that
a lot of people are feeling left

1535
01:32:48,810 --> 01:32:53,550
behind by by globalization in
different issues. And there's

1536
01:32:53,550 --> 01:32:58,650
been a big rise of isolationism
and nationalism, communism

1537
01:32:58,650 --> 01:33:01,530
threatens some of the global
cooperation that will be

1538
01:33:01,530 --> 01:33:04,230
required to solve some of the
bigger issues like maintaining

1539
01:33:04,230 --> 01:33:08,190
peace, addressing climate
change, eventually,

1540
01:33:08,430 --> 01:33:11,070
collaborating a lot and
accelerating science and curing

1541
01:33:11,070 --> 01:33:15,570
diseases and eliminating
poverty. So I kind of take it as

1542
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,710
this is a huge part of our
mission, is that I think a lot

1543
01:33:19,710 --> 01:33:22,290
of these problems require people
coming together and having a

1544
01:33:22,290 --> 01:33:26,910
global understanding. One of the
things that I was that I found

1545
01:33:26,910 --> 01:33:30,510
heartening is, if you ask
millennials, what they identify

1546
01:33:30,510 --> 01:33:33,870
the most with, it's not, it's
not their nationality, or even

1547
01:33:33,870 --> 01:33:37,920
their ethnicity. It's the
plurality identify as a citizen

1548
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,910
of the world. And I live that
strong. And that's, that I

1549
01:33:41,910 --> 01:33:46,320
think, reflects the values of
where we need to go in order to

1550
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,660
solve some of these bigger
questions. So now the question

1551
01:33:48,660 --> 01:33:51,600
is, how do you do that? I think
it's clear that just helping

1552
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,990
people connect by itself isn't
always positive. When you give

1553
01:33:54,990 --> 01:33:58,830
people a tool, it's more
positive than negative. Clearly,

1554
01:33:58,830 --> 01:34:00,900
there's a lot of good things
that happen. But then there's

1555
01:34:00,900 --> 01:34:04,740
also abuse. And there are bad
things that happen. And a much

1556
01:34:04,740 --> 01:34:08,460
bigger part of the focus for me
now, is making sure that as

1557
01:34:08,460 --> 01:34:11,730
we're connecting people, we are
helping to build bonds and bring

1558
01:34:11,730 --> 01:34:14,730
people closer together BOMs
rather than just focused on the

1559
01:34:14,730 --> 01:34:17,670
mechanics of the connection, and
the infrastructure, as you say,

1560
01:34:18,090 --> 01:34:20,970
but I think that there's there's
a number of different pieces

1561
01:34:20,970 --> 01:34:25,110
that you need to do here. civic
society basically starts bottom

1562
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:27,270
up, right, you need to have well
functioning groups and

1563
01:34:27,270 --> 01:34:31,350
communities. We're very focused
on that you need a well informed

1564
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:35,970
citizenry. So we're very focused
on making sure that the quality

1565
01:34:35,970 --> 01:34:39,060
of journalism and and that
everyone has a voice and that

1566
01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:43,530
can get access to to the content
that they need. That I think is

1567
01:34:43,530 --> 01:34:46,440
ends up being really important
civic engagement, both being

1568
01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:49,170
involved in elections, and
increasingly working to

1569
01:34:49,170 --> 01:34:52,500
eliminate interference and, and
different nation states trying

1570
01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:55,410
to interfere in each other's
elections ends up being really

1571
01:34:55,410 --> 01:34:58,710
important. And then I think part
of what we need to do is work on

1572
01:34:58,710 --> 01:35:01,500
some of the new Some types of
governance questions that we

1573
01:35:01,500 --> 01:35:04,170
started off this conversation
with, because there hasn't been

1574
01:35:04,170 --> 01:35:06,870
a community like this that has
spanned so many different

1575
01:35:06,870 --> 01:35:08,310
countries. And that's an open
question.

1576
01:35:08,490 --> 01:35:10,020
We are all going to die.

1577
01:35:11,910 --> 01:35:13,350
This guy's a lunatic.

1578
01:35:14,429 --> 01:35:16,499
He's got his shit.

1579
01:35:17,129 --> 01:35:20,159
I get the biggest kick out of
multibillionaires, who have

1580
01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:24,629
their private jets, and be a
little asked here about climate

1581
01:35:24,629 --> 01:35:28,559
change. They get their private
world of climate change. By the

1582
01:35:28,559 --> 01:35:32,699
way, the climate change thing,
my mudflats have expanded nodes.

1583
01:35:32,909 --> 01:35:35,639
And if there's a huge low tide
or whatever it is with, they're

1584
01:35:35,639 --> 01:35:38,279
almost out halfway through the
bay. It's unbelievable. Oh,

1585
01:35:38,309 --> 01:35:40,649
anyway, tsunami, tsunami
warning.

1586
01:35:41,820 --> 01:35:46,110
Swell looks like it was going on
for a week. I think the

1587
01:35:46,140 --> 01:35:52,590
arrogance of these billionaires
going on about, you know, the

1588
01:35:52,590 --> 01:35:57,000
globe, I'm a global citizen. You
know, there's most people who

1589
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,060
have not left her own community.
There are people in law Long

1590
01:36:00,060 --> 01:36:03,390
Island, I've never been to
Manhattan. There are tons of

1591
01:36:03,390 --> 01:36:05,610
people that live in Germany.
They've never been to France

1592
01:36:05,610 --> 01:36:08,610
when it's just a simple train
ride and go to Paris. No, I go

1593
01:36:08,610 --> 01:36:13,380
and not gone. To have this
arrogance about oh, the global

1594
01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:16,500
system. I'm a global citizen.
And that's what everybody thinks

1595
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:19,290
now it is all the millennials,
the millennials, most of whom

1596
01:36:19,290 --> 01:36:23,880
can't dry. They're all of a
sudden global citizens citizens

1597
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:27,570
of the globe. The earth is my is
my home. I'm alive. I live on

1598
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:32,190
Earth. Yeah, once you move to
the Cameroon. I mean, it's just

1599
01:36:32,190 --> 01:36:37,320
unbelievable. This just this. It
just sickens me that these guys.

1600
01:36:40,140 --> 01:36:44,460
Yeah. And he believes that he's
building a global, a globalist

1601
01:36:44,460 --> 01:36:49,890
tool tool, you know, until we
collectively understand that the

1602
01:36:49,890 --> 01:36:54,030
internet is that tool. And we
take matters into our own hands

1603
01:36:54,030 --> 01:36:57,240
and just connect stuff together,
which is the way it was intended

1604
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:01,050
in the first place and stop
being lazy bastards, maybe we

1605
01:37:01,050 --> 01:37:04,050
will be able to change
something. But don't leave it to

1606
01:37:04,050 --> 01:37:04,590
these nodes.

1607
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,920
It happens. It never happens to
these guys. They set up shop

1608
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,830
doing something like Facebook,
and everybody's Oh, that's

1609
01:37:10,830 --> 01:37:15,360
easier than me having to do any
work. Being the global citizen

1610
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:19,260
that I am. And they just join
and they put their stuff on

1611
01:37:19,260 --> 01:37:22,380
failing. I put my photos on here
for everyone to see like I was

1612
01:37:22,380 --> 01:37:27,000
never drunk and Sally. Hey,
Sally and his Jamie. Yeah, well,

1613
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,180
that's mean this, to me is
ridiculous. I mean that now you

1614
01:37:30,180 --> 01:37:34,590
say the same thing about that
woman that shot up YouTube, you

1615
01:37:34,590 --> 01:37:36,750
know, shot in the ground, just
as

1616
01:37:36,750 --> 01:37:39,480
just a symptom, a symptom of the
disease. Put

1617
01:37:39,480 --> 01:37:42,870
your own videos up, we do our
part we don't use for this

1618
01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:47,550
podcast we have we put up our
own servers. We don't use pod

1619
01:37:47,550 --> 01:37:48,060
bean.

1620
01:37:50,850 --> 01:37:52,770
You know, I still get their
newsletter, though.

1621
01:37:54,480 --> 01:37:57,480
Well, if you weren't doing a
small little podcast, and you

1622
01:37:57,480 --> 01:37:59,670
didn't care about if the guy
said, hey, you know, I don't

1623
01:37:59,670 --> 01:38:00,630
like you anymore. You know,

1624
01:38:00,630 --> 01:38:03,330
you can always you're out you
can always upload your stuff to

1625
01:38:03,330 --> 01:38:04,440
archive.org

1626
01:38:05,580 --> 01:38:07,620
Yeah, there's that. You know,

1627
01:38:07,620 --> 01:38:09,840
someone suggested that for us.
I'm like, Well, you know, we

1628
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,180
really need a little bit of
control over stuff we want it to

1629
01:38:12,180 --> 01:38:15,480
get out and you know, we have
huge surges of data. You know,

1630
01:38:15,480 --> 01:38:16,230
void Zero

1631
01:38:16,230 --> 01:38:18,780
has an archive can handle this
search.

1632
01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:24,870
Void Zero has a permanent alarm
system set. Yeah. So when I when

1633
01:38:24,870 --> 01:38:28,710
I when I released the RSS feed,
you know, bells and whistles go

1634
01:38:28,710 --> 01:38:32,400
off and serve bemrose is you
know, on high alert, because

1635
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:37,200
when that goes wrong, it goes
really wrong. So, and also, you

1636
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:40,650
know, we don't think Well, I'm
sure they could handle the load,

1637
01:38:40,650 --> 01:38:43,500
but they'd be like, hey, what do
you what did you bronies doing?

1638
01:38:43,890 --> 01:38:46,050
Yeah, that would be
exploitation. That's

1639
01:38:46,380 --> 01:38:48,810
not fair. That's not nice.
That's not being a good day.

1640
01:38:49,530 --> 01:38:52,860
Oh my dark I've been this stuff
for the long haul but not the

1641
01:38:52,860 --> 01:38:54,060
date not when the show comes
out.

1642
01:38:54,090 --> 01:38:55,650
It's not being a good medicine

1643
01:38:57,090 --> 01:38:59,640
and we're good net is remember
that remember? We used to call

1644
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,370
it a netizens Yeah, that'll dead
died.

1645
01:39:03,810 --> 01:39:06,900
God Yeah. Once that once those
commercial guys came in like

1646
01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:15,240
curry ruined it all ruined the
internet. No. See?

1647
01:39:16,050 --> 01:39:19,320
Well, I do have the thing that
was that was played on the news.

1648
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:23,460
The his he came out and they
every news channel had him going

1649
01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:27,180
on apologizing. I don't know
about what half the time

1650
01:39:27,660 --> 01:39:30,060
but the stock price being down.
That's what he that's what he's

1651
01:39:30,060 --> 01:39:33,840
really apologizing for? Yeah,
what do we have? Facebook

1652
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,090
rundown NBC. That would be it.

1653
01:39:36,809 --> 01:39:40,529
But our top story this evening
is Facebook makeup sorry major

1654
01:39:40,529 --> 01:39:44,129
headlines. It's embattled CEO
Mark Zuckerberg agreeing to

1655
01:39:44,129 --> 01:39:47,519
testify before Congress. As we
also learned today that the

1656
01:39:47,519 --> 01:39:52,319
siphoning of Facebook user data
by Cambridge Analytica was far

1657
01:39:52,319 --> 01:39:56,009
bigger than first announced or
Miguel el McGarr has the latest.

1658
01:39:57,630 --> 01:40:01,530
Tonight Facebook's as the
personal data data of up to 87

1659
01:40:01,530 --> 01:40:05,700
million people, mostly in the US
was improperly shared with

1660
01:40:05,700 --> 01:40:09,480
Cambridge Analytica 10s of
millions more than previously

1661
01:40:09,480 --> 01:40:14,100
thought. The Privacy scandal
connected to the 2016 election

1662
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:19,710
of breach of trust. The fallout
forcing Facebook CEO Mark

1663
01:40:19,710 --> 01:40:23,430
Zuckerberg to now testify before
Congress next week, for the

1664
01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:27,420
first time. Today, he spoke to
reporters by phone.

1665
01:40:27,690 --> 01:40:31,110
It's not enough to just give
people a voice. We have to make

1666
01:40:31,110 --> 01:40:34,320
sure that people are not using
that voice to hurt people or to

1667
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:35,400
spread misinformation.

1668
01:40:35,670 --> 01:40:39,000
Zuckerberg taking full
responsibility, saying he's the

1669
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:43,170
best person to run his company
trying to reassure users and the

1670
01:40:43,170 --> 01:40:45,060
company's shareholders.

1671
01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:49,020
We didn't take a broad enough
view of what our responsibility

1672
01:40:49,020 --> 01:40:52,890
is. And that was a huge mistake.
And it was it was my mistake.

1673
01:40:53,220 --> 01:40:57,180
Facebook also announcing new
security features to protect its

1674
01:40:57,180 --> 01:41:01,710
2 billion users saying nearly
all I've had basic information

1675
01:41:01,740 --> 01:41:02,430
taken

1676
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,860
the fact that someone could come
along look at your public

1677
01:41:04,860 --> 01:41:08,070
Facebook page and take that data
down and you know, use it in

1678
01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:10,110
other ways is not at all
surprising to me.

1679
01:41:10,140 --> 01:41:15,360
With some leaving Facebook the
company's losing value down $87

1680
01:41:15,390 --> 01:41:21,360
billion. Tonight Facebook
accused of sharing too much all

1681
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:26,400
eyes now on the quiet CEO as
Zuckerberg goes to Washington.

1682
01:41:27,450 --> 01:41:30,420
Tonight, Cambridge Analytica
says it only access the

1683
01:41:30,420 --> 01:41:34,710
information of 30 million
individuals not at 7 million. As

1684
01:41:34,710 --> 01:41:37,890
for Facebook, the social media
giant says starting Monday it'll

1685
01:41:37,890 --> 01:41:41,430
notify its users if their
personal information may have

1686
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:43,380
been compromised, Lester?

1687
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:51,210
What a shitshow fun to watch
though. I love seeing the guy

1688
01:41:51,210 --> 01:41:53,970
sweat a little he should sweat.
Actually. He should go into one

1689
01:41:53,970 --> 01:41:56,220
of those sweating modes if
you've never seen his sweating

1690
01:41:56,220 --> 01:41:56,880
episode,

1691
01:41:57,510 --> 01:42:00,180
which will maybe that'll happen
in front of Congress. That would

1692
01:42:00,180 --> 01:42:01,050
be great.

1693
01:42:01,770 --> 01:42:04,410
I may sound vindictive, but

1694
01:42:05,580 --> 01:42:10,140
screw it. Yeah. Well, you do.
Yeah. But it's fine. I think the

1695
01:42:10,260 --> 01:42:13,260
he doesn't know what to expect,
because he's never testified

1696
01:42:13,260 --> 01:42:16,080
before a bunch of a holes like
some of these guys. Oh, yeah.

1697
01:42:16,110 --> 01:42:18,870
Can't be. I mean, there'll be
all thank you for coming. Mr.

1698
01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:19,680
Zuckerberg. Well,

1699
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,200
it'll be interesting to see if
everyone's sucking up or not.

1700
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:27,450
I don't think I think I can see
some guys not sucking up. They

1701
01:42:27,450 --> 01:42:30,090
won't get played much. You're
gonna have to watch the C span,

1702
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,480
because no one's going to play
the good stuff on the networks.

1703
01:42:33,900 --> 01:42:37,740
So we'll find the good stuff on
C span and then see how are we

1704
01:42:37,740 --> 01:42:41,460
actually may be? I don't know. I
mean, it seems to me that you

1705
01:42:41,460 --> 01:42:46,770
want. You want to do do a Trump
and put people who can talk in

1706
01:42:46,770 --> 01:42:50,070
front of the Congress. And that
would be Sheryl Sandberg. Yes,

1707
01:42:50,190 --> 01:42:53,610
she's X. She's extraordinary.
She's one of those executives

1708
01:42:53,610 --> 01:42:56,850
used to work at the government
in that executive corps,

1709
01:42:57,300 --> 01:43:01,110
bouncing around from the CIA.
She's pretty clear and all that

1710
01:43:01,110 --> 01:43:04,830
she's all she knows what she
knows what the government's

1711
01:43:04,830 --> 01:43:08,640
like. She's been there. And she
knows how to speak in public.

1712
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:11,910
She's been a lot of talk shows
and been personable not like

1713
01:43:12,030 --> 01:43:15,990
Zuckerberg being interviewed
into like a robot. She's the one

1714
01:43:16,020 --> 01:43:20,280
she handled it. She saved the
company. But no, no, He figures

1715
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:21,600
he can do it. You know, why is

1716
01:43:21,630 --> 01:43:27,450
misogyny? Is it Mark Zuckerberg
is misogynist the right person

1717
01:43:27,450 --> 01:43:30,390
for the job? No doubt about it
is Sheryl Sandberg.

1718
01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:34,560
Yeah, there's no question about
it. And that there's no excuse

1719
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,440
not to let her no one's gonna
say, well, we wanted to talk to

1720
01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:41,610
the CEO. She says, I mean, we
work together. You're talking to

1721
01:43:41,610 --> 01:43:45,090
the same. We were all part of a
team. She'd handle that

1722
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:46,860
question. Yeah.

1723
01:43:47,460 --> 01:43:49,920
You know, and of course, we'll
be watching the C span to get

1724
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:54,090
something just like one of our
producers was watching a

1725
01:43:54,090 --> 01:44:02,070
Tennessee House debate. This is
House Bill 1950. About hazing in

1726
01:44:02,070 --> 01:44:05,910
college. And just to give you an
idea of how stupid some people

1727
01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:07,290
are, listen to this gym.

1728
01:44:07,530 --> 01:44:10,380
And we're also just targeting
fraternities and sororities. And

1729
01:44:10,380 --> 01:44:13,650
so what I would like to do is is
actually make a motion to send

1730
01:44:13,650 --> 01:44:17,040
this to Summer Study so that we
can figure out what the real

1731
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,370
problem is and what Tennessee
can actually do about it. I

1732
01:44:20,370 --> 01:44:22,650
don't I don't think we know the
answer to either one of those

1733
01:44:22,650 --> 01:44:26,550
two questions right now. And
again, this bill seems to kind

1734
01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:29,850
of cherry pick just those
fraternities and sororities

1735
01:44:30,450 --> 01:44:35,340
which on itself seems a little
bit offensive to those groups

1736
01:44:35,370 --> 01:44:39,180
but then on the backside of it
the punishment is so light that

1737
01:44:39,180 --> 01:44:43,650
it doesn't really seem to to fit
the crime so to speak. So with

1738
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,350
with your indulgence and with
the committee's help I do think

1739
01:44:46,350 --> 01:44:48,330
this warrants a larger
conversation I would like to

1740
01:44:48,330 --> 01:44:49,710
make a motion to Senator Summer
Study

1741
01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:53,760
so motion in a second that is a
debatable motion and by Chairman

1742
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,590
we will say you make some good
points I'm gonna see misdemeanor

1743
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:58,050
is basically a traffic offense.
I mean, it's a stop sign or a

1744
01:44:58,050 --> 01:45:00,360
speeding ticket. Represent event
us.

1745
01:45:00,750 --> 01:45:02,970
Thanks, sir and I agree with
Vice Chairman Kersey has

1746
01:45:02,970 --> 01:45:06,300
sentiment sentiment. I'm reading
right here on the onion report

1747
01:45:06,300 --> 01:45:10,860
about Kentucky seniors who haze
freshman basketball players

1748
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:15,930
in that great, unbelievable.
Reading it in the onion, and

1749
01:45:15,930 --> 01:45:16,980
then he quotes

1750
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,060
what an ad is, and no one says
anything.

1751
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:25,980
Just cool idea. Yeah, that's

1752
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:31,020
I just in the back to OTG. For
one second, I learned something

1753
01:45:31,020 --> 01:45:33,960
that I did not know. And you
know, we are big fans of ham.

1754
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:40,410
Not the data is the new bacon
but ham radio, amateur radio. We

1755
01:45:40,410 --> 01:45:42,000
both are licensed a little more,

1756
01:45:42,030 --> 01:45:44,640
and everyone out there should
get a license. If anyone knows

1757
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,250
anything about computers, you
almost pass the technical one

1758
01:45:47,250 --> 01:45:48,600
just without even taking any.

1759
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,060
It's multiple choice. You get
all the

1760
01:45:52,620 --> 01:45:57,030
quizzes. Yeah. There's only X
number of questions they can ask

1761
01:45:57,030 --> 01:46:00,270
those are all public. Yes, you
can read over the questions and

1762
01:46:00,270 --> 01:46:03,090
the answers to all the questions
you'll be asked, it doesn't take

1763
01:46:03,090 --> 01:46:04,350
a genius to pass this test,

1764
01:46:04,530 --> 01:46:07,980
it'll just be in a different
order. That's all now as a

1765
01:46:07,980 --> 01:46:10,560
technician, you're allowed to do
this. So with that, with that

1766
01:46:10,590 --> 01:46:18,060
really quite simple test. You
can transceiver on 70

1767
01:46:18,060 --> 01:46:22,170
centimeters and two meters,
couple other bands as well. But

1768
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,720
there is a community there is a
ham community that is using the

1769
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:34,410
puck sag protocol. And Puck sag
protocol is the pager protocol.

1770
01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:39,630
And they're hooking up you know,
cheap restaurant pager systems

1771
01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:44,130
that you can buy off Amazon or
eBay or Alibaba. And then

1772
01:46:44,130 --> 01:46:46,980
they're hooking it up to 50
Watts, I think you can actually

1773
01:46:46,980 --> 01:46:51,960
go up to 200 even as a
technician. And you can bridge

1774
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:57,510
it with a as a as a pager that
will repeat messages and will

1775
01:46:57,510 --> 01:47:00,630
receive them as well. So you can
set up your own two way

1776
01:47:00,630 --> 01:47:06,360
messaging service now 200 Watts,
you can do pretty good. around

1777
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,720
town, you can do pretty well,
pretty well. And you can also

1778
01:47:10,500 --> 01:47:14,100
mesh that with other hams. So
you have a hand off, we could

1779
01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:16,770
build our own off the grid
network.

1780
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,540
And the purpose would be

1781
01:47:21,570 --> 01:47:30,300
just to stop doing this podcast
and have a life. Be rich. How

1782
01:47:30,570 --> 01:47:31,890
off the page your network.

1783
01:47:33,060 --> 01:47:36,510
Know that you monetize the page
your network. Oh, do

1784
01:47:36,510 --> 01:47:41,760
I have to pay a subscription
fee? Yeah, okay, well, you might

1785
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:46,200
be on to something. Or on
something. What are the two?

1786
01:47:47,130 --> 01:47:51,450
Yeah, exactly. Maybe some of
that knew we'd have you heard

1787
01:47:51,450 --> 01:47:55,170
about this stuff. People are
smoking this synthetic weed and

1788
01:47:55,350 --> 01:47:58,470
smoke synthetic weed. I mean, I
don't understand what people are

1789
01:47:58,470 --> 01:48:00,090
doing. It looks like popery.

1790
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,610
All right. We'll begin with this
our big story. Right now. Police

1791
01:48:02,610 --> 01:48:05,700
and health officials in the
Chicago area are scrambling to

1792
01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:10,020
track down and shut down the
source of synthetic marijuana

1793
01:48:10,110 --> 01:48:13,470
that is killing people. So far
three people have been arrested

1794
01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:16,950
they're charged with trying to
sell the fake weed to a

1795
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:20,400
convenience store. To have the
suspects made their initial

1796
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:23,220
appearance today before a judge
that let's explain why it's so

1797
01:48:23,220 --> 01:48:27,240
dangerous preliminary testing of
some of that fake weed showed it

1798
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:32,130
was laced with a toxic substance
frequently used in rat poison.

1799
01:48:32,580 --> 01:48:34,800
The Illinois Department of
Health says right now there have

1800
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:38,460
been at least 70 reports of
people have experienced terrible

1801
01:48:38,490 --> 01:48:42,120
symptoms like severe bleeding
including bloody gum Some even

1802
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:45,720
say they coughed up blood after
taking the drug so far two

1803
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:49,590
people have lost their lives and
officials fear more people could

1804
01:48:49,590 --> 01:48:50,070
die

1805
01:48:50,220 --> 01:48:53,670
yeah and this is people with
blood coming out of their ears

1806
01:48:53,670 --> 01:48:55,140
out of their eyes

1807
01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:00,510
people what's the name of the
day of the job this week a bola

1808
01:49:02,430 --> 01:49:03,180
bola

1809
01:49:06,990 --> 01:49:12,840
people it's a weed, plant some
seeds. Anything Do not be It's

1810
01:49:12,870 --> 01:49:18,030
looks like popery. Are they
thinking and finally we're

1811
01:49:18,030 --> 01:49:21,990
getting bad owners Yeah or No, I
think it's idiots.

1812
01:49:22,410 --> 01:49:23,550
It's still theirs. Why

1813
01:49:23,550 --> 01:49:28,050
would you I mean kids they
really they got guts. Back in

1814
01:49:28,050 --> 01:49:30,180
the day we like you know who
Where'd you get this from?

1815
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,430
You've been all over the place.
Remember that when you say Hey,

1816
01:49:32,430 --> 01:49:34,410
where'd you get the weed from?
Who's it from? I need to check

1817
01:49:34,410 --> 01:49:36,330
it I just want to know I just
want to know where it's from.

1818
01:49:36,930 --> 01:49:44,100
You never did that. No. You
never smoked kratom back under

1819
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:45,930
fire once again. This is the

1820
01:49:46,770 --> 01:49:49,980
this is a shame. I still have. I
still have a bag everybody.

1821
01:49:50,010 --> 01:49:53,220
I still have a bag of this but I
just haven't had the guts to try

1822
01:49:53,220 --> 01:49:56,220
it. But we have a lot of
producers who use it to wean

1823
01:49:56,220 --> 01:49:59,160
themselves off of opioids they
use it instead of opioids. It

1824
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,340
seems to be an absolute magic.
It's good for all kinds of

1825
01:50:02,340 --> 01:50:06,900
magical herbs again, just like
marijuana it comes from, from

1826
01:50:06,900 --> 01:50:08,130
nature from a tree.

1827
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:11,490
For decades and Southeast Asia,
the leaves of the kratom tree

1828
01:50:11,490 --> 01:50:14,610
have been used to treat aches
and pains here in the United

1829
01:50:14,610 --> 01:50:17,340
States, you can buy kratom over
the counter in the form of a

1830
01:50:17,340 --> 01:50:21,660
powder, pill or T. According to
the American kratom Association,

1831
01:50:21,780 --> 01:50:25,320
three to 5 million people in
this country have used kratom

1832
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:27,990
products. The research that's
been done indicates that people

1833
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:31,050
are using kratom to help
alleviate chronic pain to treat

1834
01:50:31,050 --> 01:50:34,050
mood disorders like anxiety and
depression and in some cases to

1835
01:50:34,050 --> 01:50:37,650
help wean themselves off of
opioids. But the FDA says kratom

1836
01:50:37,650 --> 01:50:41,730
itself is an opioid, the FDA
warned it can be dangerous and

1837
01:50:41,730 --> 01:50:44,910
even fatal, saying it's
associated with more than three

1838
01:50:44,910 --> 01:50:48,510
dozen deaths. The Centers for
Disease Control says kratom may

1839
01:50:48,510 --> 01:50:52,320
be tied to recent salmonella
outbreaks, the CDC recommends

1840
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:56,640
kratom should not be consumed in
any form. Consumer Reports also

1841
01:50:56,640 --> 01:51:00,420
has concerns because like all
supplements Kratom is not

1842
01:51:00,420 --> 01:51:03,390
regulated, any given kratom
product can be grossly

1843
01:51:03,390 --> 01:51:06,570
mislabeled. It can be laced with
other substances, including

1844
01:51:06,570 --> 01:51:09,750
illegal drugs or prescription
medications, and it can interact

1845
01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:11,610
with other medications that
you're taking in ways that are

1846
01:51:11,610 --> 01:51:15,390
really dangerous. Right now the
Drug Enforcement Agency lists

1847
01:51:15,390 --> 01:51:20,460
kratom as a drug and chemical of
concern by DEA could reclassify

1848
01:51:20,460 --> 01:51:24,810
kratom to the same category as
heroin, LSD and ecstasy

1849
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,410
essentially banning it for
consumers. The American kratom

1850
01:51:28,410 --> 01:51:32,610
Association argues making kratom
illegal could drive more people

1851
01:51:32,610 --> 01:51:36,060
to prescription painkillers or
illegal drugs to treat their

1852
01:51:36,060 --> 01:51:39,960
symptoms. The organization says
it supports appropriate FDA

1853
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:44,340
regulations to ensure the safety
and purity of kratom but not a

1854
01:51:44,340 --> 01:51:48,210
ban. The DEA is reviewing data
and public comments.

1855
01:51:49,620 --> 01:51:53,010
Yeah, ya, although we are
getting a deregulation so people

1856
01:51:53,010 --> 01:51:56,490
will be able to try experimental
pharma drugs, that's okay.

1857
01:51:58,350 --> 01:52:01,170
Is that house to madhouse?

1858
01:52:01,230 --> 01:52:04,980
And yeah, especially when you
hear a report like this, thank

1859
01:52:04,980 --> 01:52:05,490
goodness

1860
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:09,120
legalizing marijuana could lead
to fewer people taking

1861
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:12,000
prescription painkillers and
experts say that means people

1862
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:16,230
might be less likely to overdose
on opioids. Two studies released

1863
01:52:16,230 --> 01:52:18,690
today looked at Medicare and
Medicaid patients in states

1864
01:52:18,690 --> 01:52:21,330
where pot is legal. It found
that opioids were prescribed

1865
01:52:21,330 --> 01:52:25,020
less often and taken less in
those states. Medical Marijuana

1866
01:52:25,020 --> 01:52:27,960
has been called a lower risk
alternative to opioids by

1867
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:31,500
advocates, but some disagree.
Other studies have found

1868
01:52:31,500 --> 01:52:35,340
marijuana might lead to future
opioid use. Experts want states

1869
01:52:35,340 --> 01:52:38,130
and the federal government to
pay for more studies to see if

1870
01:52:38,130 --> 01:52:39,150
there is a link.

1871
01:52:39,630 --> 01:52:43,980
Could there be a link for 1000s
of years? 1000s of years.

1872
01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:47,880
There's no money for studies.
Yeah, speaking of

1873
01:52:49,020 --> 01:52:51,600
language. Before you get off
that topic, you might as well I

1874
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:55,650
do have a Oh, sorry. I have a
similar one. Where's that maybe

1875
01:52:55,650 --> 01:53:01,200
I didn't move it over. It was on
the last week was about killer

1876
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,710
hospital killer. They found out
that people are dropping dead in

1877
01:53:04,710 --> 01:53:08,400
the hospital. Like I can look it
up real quick. Yes. And look at

1878
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:09,570
last week's list

1879
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:13,920
last week or the last show that
show on a second. I gotta go.

1880
01:53:13,980 --> 01:53:20,010
I'm diving deep here for your
bra. Diving deep. Okay. I have

1881
01:53:20,010 --> 01:53:25,890
to go into the database. But
here it is. Under JCD clips we

1882
01:53:25,890 --> 01:53:32,700
have Hmm. I don't see anything
about weed. No hospital or

1883
01:53:32,700 --> 01:53:33,840
hospital death secret?

1884
01:53:34,110 --> 01:53:38,490
Yes. That is not botched
surgeries or risky procedures.

1885
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,970
On Your Side. Chief Investigator
Ron Regan joins us with finding

1886
01:53:41,970 --> 01:53:45,600
1000s of avoidable deaths are
happening in hospitals across

1887
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,810
the country. These are patients
who are recovering so well.

1888
01:53:48,990 --> 01:53:51,990
They're back in their own
hospital room talking with

1889
01:53:51,990 --> 01:53:57,090
family members. But we found far
too many are dying within hours.

1890
01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:59,850
And hospitals are failing to
rescue.

1891
01:54:00,180 --> 01:54:01,080
What's happening.

1892
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,940
Well, this is actually a long
report. But they nobody wants to

1893
01:54:05,940 --> 01:54:09,090
talk about this. But first you
go into recovery and then you go

1894
01:54:09,090 --> 01:54:12,450
into just the everyday room was
very not monitored that much.

1895
01:54:12,450 --> 01:54:15,090
Right. Right. And you're healthy
or good. You're ready to go home

1896
01:54:15,090 --> 01:54:19,890
and get to go home in an hour.
Two hours later, you're dead. It

1897
01:54:19,890 --> 01:54:24,180
turns out that they're giving
everybody these painkillers. Oh,

1898
01:54:24,180 --> 01:54:27,510
you're kidding me. Fentanyl. And
all the rest of it is and it's

1899
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:31,200
depressing their their lung
function just enough that if

1900
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:35,010
they have sleep apnea, then they
die in their sleep. They take a

1901
01:54:35,010 --> 01:54:37,470
nap and drop dead. Oh, well,
they're

1902
01:54:37,470 --> 01:54:38,220
already dropped.

1903
01:54:38,250 --> 01:54:40,260
You would have survived that
1000s

1904
01:54:40,559 --> 01:54:47,099
Holy crap. Yes. Oh my gosh. This
is a scandal.

1905
01:54:47,490 --> 01:54:49,710
It's a total scandal. They're
trying to make it into one but

1906
01:54:49,710 --> 01:54:52,470
it's been that reports the last
time I've heard it.

1907
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:55,950
What station was that on? What
network? Where'd that

1908
01:54:55,950 --> 01:54:59,010
come? I think it was on. I think
it was on ABC but I'm not sure

1909
01:54:59,010 --> 01:54:59,280
this

1910
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:02,220
warrants for their
investigation. Yes, it does.

1911
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:10,260
Just like the Nova chalk. Which,
and I guess I don't know what

1912
01:55:10,260 --> 01:55:13,800
happened to some I thought I had
a clip of the guy from Portland

1913
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:18,210
down saying this but I can't
find it now. Portland down,

1914
01:55:18,210 --> 01:55:21,240
experts said they were unable to
identify the source of the

1915
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:23,880
novichok virus. That's not their
job as well. They

1916
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,060
say that a virus is the agent,
the nerve agent. I'm

1917
01:55:27,060 --> 01:55:29,820
sorry. Yeah, it's not our job.
It's not our job to find out

1918
01:55:29,820 --> 01:55:33,660
where it's from, even though the
government clearly knows.

1919
01:55:33,810 --> 01:55:38,580
They've got it all figured out.
It's came from Russians. But the

1920
01:55:38,940 --> 01:55:42,570
Yeah, we that's why the Russians
can't get a copy of it so they

1921
01:55:42,570 --> 01:55:45,810
can prove it didn't come from
Russia. It was even Nova Chuck.

1922
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:49,050
But here comes the late days
this thing stinks to high

1923
01:55:49,050 --> 01:55:51,990
heaven. Well, here comes the
latest that I really loved.

1924
01:55:54,210 --> 01:56:03,510
Apparently, these two had dinner
at a restaurant ZZ restaurant in

1925
01:56:03,510 --> 01:56:07,590
Salisbury. And this could be
total crap because it's coming

1926
01:56:07,590 --> 01:56:13,980
from split neck so I don't know.
But that they had FUBU FUBU goo

1927
01:56:13,980 --> 01:56:14,520
fish

1928
01:56:17,190 --> 01:56:21,060
with a serving FUBU for it at
Solsbury restaurant in the UK

1929
01:56:22,500 --> 01:56:25,980
I'm just reporting on what the
Russian sources say I thought it

1930
01:56:25,980 --> 01:56:29,520
was great and that's the
Japanese blowfish that if

1931
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,410
prepared incorrectly you will
die

1932
01:56:32,010 --> 01:56:34,890
yeah you get nerve damage it's a
nerve agent Yeah.

1933
01:56:35,940 --> 01:56:36,960
Well how about that

1934
01:56:36,990 --> 01:56:42,180
in fact even when this stuff is
not contaminated with the I

1935
01:56:42,180 --> 01:56:44,580
think his gallbladder some
little thing gets in there one

1936
01:56:44,580 --> 01:56:49,320
drop and you're done to the
flesh itself gives you a kind of

1937
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:53,100
a slight numbness and a buzz it
makes you think you're gonna die

1938
01:56:53,100 --> 01:56:57,810
anyway, but it's very has to be
prepared in Japan by a special

1939
01:56:57,870 --> 01:57:01,560
specialist. Yes. And very I
mean, it's still a few people

1940
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:05,220
die every year but it's usually
because you ate it and Solsbury

1941
01:57:05,250 --> 01:57:07,680
remember to believe this story
remember it's not

1942
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:09,990
the fish that kill people. Yeah

1943
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:14,730
well if that's true then the
problem is is that the first

1944
01:57:14,730 --> 01:57:18,540
responder Why would make him
just have an issue

1945
01:57:20,010 --> 01:57:23,190
and then we can finally change
the if this were true though.

1946
01:57:23,190 --> 01:57:28,890
You could just you could change
all the headlines in the UK it

1947
01:57:28,890 --> 01:57:29,880
was a blow job

1948
01:57:33,060 --> 01:57:35,220
yeah, you could you could do
that. You could actually do that

1949
01:57:35,220 --> 01:57:35,400
because

1950
01:57:35,490 --> 01:57:36,420
the sun do that.

1951
01:57:36,810 --> 01:57:44,010
Yeah. Okay, let's get the keep
up with some a little bit of

1952
01:57:45,060 --> 01:57:48,210
Well, here's another eight NBC.
This is a weird NBC Trump

1953
01:57:48,210 --> 01:57:51,180
rundown I got a kick out of this
because this was on the one of

1954
01:57:51,180 --> 01:57:53,940
the shows are talking about the
YouTube shooter and they they

1955
01:57:53,940 --> 01:57:57,270
had to get their digs in with
Trump. But the very weak

1956
01:57:57,270 --> 01:58:01,920
presentation, I thought, because
Trump, once again brought up

1957
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:05,730
fake news. And this was like,
Oh, this is so awkward that he

1958
01:58:05,730 --> 01:58:11,220
did that and what's he doing? So
this is like a lame report from

1959
01:58:11,220 --> 01:58:13,620
NBC trying to make Trump look
bad.

1960
01:58:13,650 --> 01:58:16,230
The president today also
reinforcing his support for

1961
01:58:16,230 --> 01:58:19,380
Baltic Allies anxious about
their own shared border with

1962
01:58:19,380 --> 01:58:22,860
Russia, repeatedly touting a
tough track record, despite

1963
01:58:22,860 --> 01:58:25,470
having never publicly condemned
Vladimir Putin.

1964
01:58:25,590 --> 01:58:29,310
Probably nobody's been tougher
to Russia than Donald Trump. But

1965
01:58:29,310 --> 01:58:32,670
getting along with Russia would
be a good thing. Not a bad

1966
01:58:32,670 --> 01:58:36,330
thing. And just about everybody
agrees to that, except very

1967
01:58:36,330 --> 01:58:37,260
stupid people.

1968
01:58:37,350 --> 01:58:39,900
Before concluding the news
conference with journalists from

1969
01:58:39,900 --> 01:58:43,110
four countries. This glaring
moment you could pick a

1970
01:58:43,110 --> 01:58:48,300
reporter, a Baltic reporter,
ideally. Real News, not fake

1971
01:58:48,300 --> 01:58:48,900
news.

1972
01:58:49,950 --> 01:58:52,470
Also, tonight, a milestone in
the Russia investigation, a

1973
01:58:52,470 --> 01:58:56,100
lawyer becoming the first person
going to prison a federal judge

1974
01:58:56,100 --> 01:58:59,760
today making an example out of
Alex Vander Zwaan. Sentencing

1975
01:58:59,970 --> 01:59:03,960
the London based lawyer to 30
days behind bars for lying the

1976
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:05,700
Special Counsel Robert Muller's
team.

1977
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:09,600
That's that's the big deal. The
guy's going to jail for 30 days.

1978
01:59:10,740 --> 01:59:13,800
I don't even know who this guy
is. That was the Dutch guy,

1979
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:18,390
the Dutch lawyer who was with
manwich

1980
01:59:18,570 --> 01:59:21,420
say they make they're gonna
throw him in jail for 30 days

1981
01:59:21,420 --> 01:59:22,710
like contempt to court and yeah,

1982
01:59:22,710 --> 01:59:26,070
I don't know idea probably.
Probably I don't know. But it

1983
01:59:26,070 --> 01:59:30,750
makes the president sound like a
real jailbird that report that

1984
01:59:30,750 --> 01:59:33,840
was the idea they also said use
the word glaring this the thing

1985
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:37,170
where he says, guys that this
report is worth listening to and

1986
01:59:37,170 --> 01:59:39,690
deconstructing the guy says,
It's glaring,

1987
01:59:40,110 --> 01:59:43,200
glaring, glaring right in my
face and so horrible.

1988
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:48,120
I mean, the whole thing was just
a, you know, it was unbelievable

1989
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:53,040
to me. This is report any they
also what is the preoccupation

1990
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:58,410
with Trump having he has to Dodi
these ugly he's a douchebag

1991
01:59:58,410 --> 02:00:02,640
unless he condemn is Putin call
him and he has to do it quickly.

1992
02:00:03,510 --> 02:00:06,630
Well, it's already too quickly
part is done. It's over. So if

1993
02:00:06,630 --> 02:00:08,640
he ever does condemn him, which
I doubt Well, this

1994
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:12,930
is part of the Game of Thrones
shaming culture that we've

1995
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:17,340
somehow latched on to and it's
supposed to work. Before we take

1996
02:00:17,340 --> 02:00:18,000
our break.

1997
02:00:18,510 --> 02:00:21,630
Let thrones shame shaming
culture. Yes. Where did that

1998
02:00:21,630 --> 02:00:22,560
come from? Well, that's

1999
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:27,960
what they do. Shame. Shame,
shame. Shame. Yes, they shame.

2000
02:00:28,380 --> 02:00:31,920
I actually liked that little
ditty Game of Thrones. The Shame

2001
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:32,100
shame

2002
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:34,890
shame culture. No, not not
shaming, just shame. Game of

2003
02:00:34,890 --> 02:00:40,500
Thrones shame, culture, shame
culture. Is it a column? No,

2004
02:00:40,500 --> 02:00:40,620
it's

2005
02:00:40,620 --> 02:00:43,800
not a column. It's just a
interesting observation. Because

2006
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:45,300
I don't never watched Game of
Thrones.

2007
02:00:45,629 --> 02:00:48,629
So you wrote it down? Yeah, I
did write it down. And what are

2008
02:00:48,629 --> 02:00:51,389
you gonna do with that piece of
paper to go on the pile? It's

2009
02:00:51,389 --> 02:00:51,629
gonna go

2010
02:00:51,630 --> 02:00:53,160
on the pile and get lost. Okay,
good.

2011
02:00:58,590 --> 02:01:01,110
When we take our break, we like
to talk about our model. Our

2012
02:01:01,110 --> 02:01:04,560
model is the value for value
model where we learned very

2013
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:07,740
early on it makes a lot more
sense for people to just give us

2014
02:01:07,740 --> 02:01:09,840
what you think the show was
worth. And that's very different

2015
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:13,500
to people based upon their their
personal circumstances. For

2016
02:01:13,500 --> 02:01:18,990
whole different reasons. There
was this yet, this is like

2017
02:01:18,990 --> 02:01:23,310
another podcast network raised
$5 million. Oh, yeah. Hey,

2018
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:27,420
Lopez, wondery Podcast Network.
And yeah, and I just love this

2019
02:01:27,420 --> 02:01:31,770
because the all these bronies
have all invented this wheel. My

2020
02:01:31,770 --> 02:01:34,050
phone's not ringing. Oh, yeah.
My phone is ringing the

2021
02:01:34,050 --> 02:01:36,840
top made a point in the
newsletter mentioning this, I

2022
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:39,390
think Did I was in the
newsletter.

2023
02:01:40,530 --> 02:01:41,520
No, I don't think so.

2024
02:01:41,550 --> 02:01:45,480
I put it somewhere. I wasn't in
this last night. No, maybe I

2025
02:01:45,480 --> 02:01:49,980
just know it was a tweet. I
think. I don't know what it was

2026
02:01:49,980 --> 02:01:55,800
a crazy amount of control. But
it's ridiculous to me that the

2027
02:01:55,800 --> 02:02:02,070
guy who invented the medium it's
never been contacted by anybody

2028
02:02:02,070 --> 02:02:04,140
rolling out these things that
would you'd be perfect. You'd be

2029
02:02:04,140 --> 02:02:07,110
a good figurehead. I mean, you
already have been once

2030
02:02:08,790 --> 02:02:12,210
Well, I I think they all know my
stance. That's why they're not

2031
02:02:12,210 --> 02:02:15,570
interested. They want me to come
on CNBC and talk about Spotify

2032
02:02:15,570 --> 02:02:18,630
and you don't give a shit about
podcasting. You blew your

2033
02:02:18,630 --> 02:02:24,450
opportunity. Yep. Oh, please.
This our producer our producer

2034
02:02:24,450 --> 02:02:29,520
will have me on and I will not
say Michael Jackson was killed.

2035
02:02:30,780 --> 02:02:33,150
We can't put our guy in
jeopardy. That would be no good.

2036
02:02:34,230 --> 02:02:38,130
But there was a you know the gym
let the giblet Podcast Network

2037
02:02:38,130 --> 02:02:45,030
Alex Bloomberg. Forget the the
gimlet the X NPR people. They

2038
02:02:45,030 --> 02:02:48,390
start there now. Right. gimlet?
The gimlet? Yep. So they're on

2039
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:53,130
the Goldman Sachs talk, which is
like a TED talk only it's bad.

2040
02:02:53,610 --> 02:03:00,210
And as an interview with Alex
Bloomberg of gimlet and the

2041
02:03:00,210 --> 02:03:03,270
second guy who answered at the
end of the clip is Jacob

2042
02:03:03,270 --> 02:03:06,960
Weisberg, he's the editor in
chief at Slate. And these are

2043
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:11,880
podcast gurus, you see. And so
this, this is all really stuff.

2044
02:03:12,420 --> 02:03:15,420
This is not sour grapes on my
part, this is just historical

2045
02:03:15,420 --> 02:03:18,840
fact. And the stupid it's funny,
funny to listen to. Because

2046
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:23,700
we've we've we've literally
invented this. And it's gonna

2047
02:03:23,700 --> 02:03:27,090
take them 10 years to figure it
out. That you can't monetize

2048
02:03:27,090 --> 02:03:29,940
your network. Just think it's
radio. They just think is right.

2049
02:03:29,940 --> 02:03:32,310
They just want it to be radio,
that thing that they can do it

2050
02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:35,760
with, with ads and the studios
we have studios are

2051
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:39,300
transmitters. We don't need no
stinking transmitters, but we do

2052
02:03:39,300 --> 02:03:42,450
need a board. And we need that
and a board up and we need to

2053
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:48,060
you know, internally, engineer,
producer, people, runners we

2054
02:03:48,060 --> 02:03:53,640
need we need all that. So listen
to these Jumoke the future the

2055
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:57,930
businesses of the future of the
medium. I mean, don't ask me

2056
02:03:57,930 --> 02:04:01,080
that question. What do you think
the future is of the medium?

2057
02:04:01,410 --> 02:04:07,920
What do you think his answer is?
John? Oh, sky's the limit. Yeah,

2058
02:04:07,950 --> 02:04:09,930
you know, what, what do you
think the future the businesses

2059
02:04:09,930 --> 02:04:12,330
of the future of the medium
this?

2060
02:04:13,290 --> 02:04:18,420
I like to say it panels like
this, that we're at the dawn of

2061
02:04:18,420 --> 02:04:21,480
the second golden age of audio.
I think that like if you think

2062
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:24,990
about the first golden age, it
was like 2030s radio, radio was

2063
02:04:24,990 --> 02:04:29,640
king. Everybody had a radio. And
all these big names got stuck,

2064
02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:32,910
you know, Lucille Ball and like
Orson Welles, and CBS got

2065
02:04:32,910 --> 02:04:35,730
started around that. And then TV
came along and sort of like,

2066
02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:38,550
people had their radios already
with NBC.

2067
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:40,680
Lucille Ball started in radio.

2068
02:04:41,100 --> 02:04:43,890
Yeah, it started with what she
started. She's a movie actress,

2069
02:04:43,890 --> 02:04:46,590
and she did a lot of radio, but
she didn't. Maybe she had a

2070
02:04:46,590 --> 02:04:49,560
show. I don't think so. I don't
remember it. But I mean, he

2071
02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:53,970
mentioned Jack Benny, and all
these characters. Bob Hope, Ron.

2072
02:04:54,900 --> 02:04:58,080
And if you mentioned NBC, which
is really the first networks

2073
02:04:58,080 --> 02:04:59,130
he'd been Oh no,

2074
02:04:59,130 --> 02:05:02,940
no, no, no. I don't have that.
But you're already here, where

2075
02:05:02,940 --> 02:05:04,170
he's going, it's radio

2076
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:07,110
came along and sort of like his
radio, people had their radios

2077
02:05:07,110 --> 02:05:09,300
in their corner, and they sat
around and looked at them. But

2078
02:05:09,330 --> 02:05:10,950
of course, they don't need
pictures on the radio and the TV

2079
02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:12,420
comes along, and they're like,
Oh, we're gonna stick that in

2080
02:05:12,420 --> 02:05:14,940
the corner and watch it, because
it's much better to watch. But

2081
02:05:14,940 --> 02:05:18,270
now with like, on demand now
that we have on demand audio

2082
02:05:18,270 --> 02:05:21,330
available to everyone, it's
changing the form the same way

2083
02:05:21,330 --> 02:05:24,720
that on demand TV changed the
form. And, and I think we're

2084
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:27,390
just going to see an explosion
of we're seeing and we are going

2085
02:05:27,390 --> 02:05:29,190
to continue to see an x that

2086
02:05:29,190 --> 02:05:33,540
is what you just heard there is
someone who is used to pitching

2087
02:05:33,570 --> 02:05:38,610
investors. And he caught himself
saying, we're going to say, no,

2088
02:05:38,610 --> 02:05:41,820
no, we're seeing it now. That
is, am I wrong?

2089
02:05:43,260 --> 02:05:46,470
I don't say you're wrong. I
don't know. It sounds like it's

2090
02:05:46,590 --> 02:05:49,620
it sounds like a pitch the whole
thing sounds like a bull crap

2091
02:05:49,620 --> 02:05:50,100
pitch

2092
02:05:50,130 --> 02:05:53,940
to Goldman Sachs, for Goldman
Sachs to invest in the my thing.

2093
02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:57,030
And I think we're just going to
see an explosion of we're seeing

2094
02:05:57,030 --> 02:06:00,660
and we are going to continue to
see an explosion of new kinds of

2095
02:06:00,660 --> 02:06:03,210
programming. I think it's going
to continue to penetrate

2096
02:06:03,210 --> 02:06:08,370
mainstream behavior. And I
think, I think in the future do

2097
02:06:08,370 --> 02:06:11,700
you listen to podcasts is going
to be as as weird a question as

2098
02:06:11,700 --> 02:06:14,490
the watch a video. You know,
they're gonna say, what do you

2099
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:16,830
what kind of podcasts you listen
to do? Would you like reality

2100
02:06:16,830 --> 02:06:19,080
podcasts? Do you like narrative
podcasts? Like fiction podcasts?

2101
02:06:19,140 --> 02:06:22,110
I think that's by like comic
book podcasts. That's

2102
02:06:22,110 --> 02:06:22,740
where we're headed.

2103
02:06:22,770 --> 02:06:26,640
You know, if he didn't, you
could refer you know, for a guy

2104
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:29,160
who was a pitchman. He did this,
I think, I think I think could

2105
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:31,350
have been eliminated. beddgelert
stronger.

2106
02:06:31,530 --> 02:06:34,590
Now listen to the second guy
make the classic mistake, which

2107
02:06:34,620 --> 02:06:37,110
I myself made 10 years ago,

2108
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:40,200
just like fiction podcasts. I
think that's that's where we're

2109
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:41,550
headed. Yeah. And the

2110
02:06:41,550 --> 02:06:44,100
authority for people in their
20s. That's we're already there.

2111
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:47,370
But I think for the older
audience for over 50 It's

2112
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:49,110
tougher to get people to adapt.
And I don't know that

2113
02:06:49,110 --> 02:06:50,760
Oh, really, your age is prick.

2114
02:06:51,090 --> 02:06:52,050
That isn't ages

2115
02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:55,440
Bricsys over 50 can't figure out
podcasting.

2116
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:56,820
We're both over 50.

2117
02:06:57,300 --> 02:06:58,800
I'm reliably informed.

2118
02:06:59,070 --> 02:07:01,890
But I think for the older
audience, for people say over 50

2119
02:07:01,980 --> 02:07:04,050
It's tougher to get people to
adapt. And I don't know that

2120
02:07:04,050 --> 02:07:06,840
they really are going to
necessarily shift over to on

2121
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:11,100
demand. I mean, as Alex says,
you know, this is, it's really,

2122
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:14,070
it's really fun to be involved
in this right now. Because you

2123
02:07:14,070 --> 02:07:17,160
have this feeling which I also
experienced when we were first

2124
02:07:17,160 --> 02:07:21,120
developing internet journalism
at Slate, that we're inventing

2125
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:24,990
this new medium, there's
bottomless possibility. And

2126
02:07:25,050 --> 02:07:28,620
there's all one word citement
about it. And there are things

2127
02:07:28,620 --> 02:07:32,670
like I mean, around the drama,
and storytelling shows that

2128
02:07:32,670 --> 02:07:36,030
aren't journalism. But, you
know, that really went out in

2129
02:07:36,030 --> 02:07:41,670
America in the 1960s. Yeah. And
it's coming back. And suddenly,

2130
02:07:41,670 --> 02:07:44,190
you know, you have a medium and
you have storytellers, and you

2131
02:07:44,190 --> 02:07:47,070
have new kinds of story. But you
have to retrain the audience.

2132
02:07:47,070 --> 02:07:50,760
But there's an audience that's
ready to do this. And I just

2133
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:53,190
have to say, it's so much fun.
No,

2134
02:07:53,220 --> 02:07:58,290
I love this. You have to retrain
the audience. That's my favorite

2135
02:07:58,290 --> 02:07:59,070
line, ever.

2136
02:07:59,940 --> 02:08:01,230
retrain the audit. Yes.

2137
02:08:01,230 --> 02:08:04,320
That's how you set up a
successful business. You tell

2138
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:07,680
your customers, they're doing it
wrong. Although Apple did kind

2139
02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:11,820
of do that pretty well. But
still, retrain your audience.

2140
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:15,600
You know what this is? Because I
was looking through the chat the

2141
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:21,090
troll room as well. They have
fan donations don't work. No, it

2142
02:08:21,090 --> 02:08:25,020
doesn't work. If you do Patreon,
or set amounts or pitch in this

2143
02:08:25,020 --> 02:08:28,890
is stupid. It's stupid. If you
have an outstanding product, let

2144
02:08:28,890 --> 02:08:32,670
people give you what they want,
including nothing, including

2145
02:08:32,700 --> 02:08:35,100
artwork, or clips, or
information or whatever they can

2146
02:08:35,100 --> 02:08:40,320
give. If you're sincere, it will
work. It's that simple. It does

2147
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:42,630
all the things you got to do
around it. I mean, you gotta you

2148
02:08:42,630 --> 02:08:45,270
got to have a newsletter.
There's all kinds of things you

2149
02:08:45,270 --> 02:08:45,930
have to do.

2150
02:08:46,620 --> 02:08:50,130
And I'm always reminded of
Briony who every once in a while

2151
02:08:50,130 --> 02:08:54,090
I get cold, because I I gave her
a lot of mentor and

2152
02:08:54,090 --> 02:08:58,590
congressional dish podcast, yes,
to keep her on the right track.

2153
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,560
And she ended up with Patreon
anyway, but she's, she takes

2154
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:04,380
checks, and she does all she
actually uses every income

2155
02:09:04,380 --> 02:09:09,840
stream, she can figure out. And
I'm telling you one thing or

2156
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:12,660
another, she's doing certain
things, I'm chained to telling

2157
02:09:12,660 --> 02:09:15,690
me I should probably do it this
way, if I do it that way. And at

2158
02:09:15,690 --> 02:09:18,630
some point, she says to me, you
know, I go to every one of these

2159
02:09:18,630 --> 02:09:22,800
podcasting conventions, and I
don't make more money. And she

2160
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:28,290
says, there's that, but then she
says, she says, and not one

2161
02:09:28,290 --> 02:09:32,280
person ever says anything that
you're telling me.

2162
02:09:33,390 --> 02:09:37,170
There's there's our business
opportunity. Just we should do a

2163
02:09:37,170 --> 02:09:40,230
master class, a master class.

2164
02:09:41,010 --> 02:09:43,560
I see this man who could do a
one day or two day One day

2165
02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:44,160
seminar.

2166
02:09:44,790 --> 02:09:46,680
Well, how much can we make with
that?

2167
02:09:47,430 --> 02:09:50,400
Well, I used to take I was a big
fan of these things when I was

2168
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:53,280
doing a lot of direct marketing
and a lot when I was younger,

2169
02:09:53,730 --> 02:09:59,010
and there was a lot of different
I mean, the best class I took

2170
02:09:59,010 --> 02:10:01,290
was a three day seminar. New
York City by the Direct

2171
02:10:01,290 --> 02:10:05,910
Marketing Association and this
very famous guy pure passive and

2172
02:10:05,910 --> 02:10:09,840
who gave these seminars and what
was their yes oh Pierre Opia and

2173
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:14,220
then I did I did I started
taking some other ones in there

2174
02:10:14,220 --> 02:10:17,940
I took a lot of the one days and
this was a while ago and they

2175
02:10:17,940 --> 02:10:23,880
were $150 and they would get in
on I don't know about 50 people

2176
02:10:24,330 --> 02:10:27,540
but that was then I think the
price now for a one day and it

2177
02:10:27,540 --> 02:10:31,710
was like probably six hours of
material. I think it's could be

2178
02:10:31,710 --> 02:10:36,330
as $400 $500 You probably get
1520 grand at a pop.

2179
02:10:37,140 --> 02:10:42,120
I just figured it out. Here's
how we do it. We do value for

2180
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:45,720
value for the conference for the
master class. Yeah, give us

2181
02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:46,800
whatever you think is worth.

2182
02:10:46,950 --> 02:10:50,700
Well the problem with that is
that here's I think it's a good

2183
02:10:50,700 --> 02:10:55,230
idea except for one thing you
need an auditorium yes well not

2184
02:10:55,230 --> 02:10:57,480
doing the real estate scam where
you bring a whole bunch of

2185
02:10:57,480 --> 02:11:00,450
people in then can then do value
add to make your money

2186
02:11:01,830 --> 02:11:04,020
we could sell timeshare on the
way out

2187
02:11:04,980 --> 02:11:07,950
to smaller venues you can
probably maybe get you know 50

2188
02:11:08,010 --> 02:11:13,830
People 100 People at the most
that's a lot you could do it I

2189
02:11:13,830 --> 02:11:17,610
think we could probably get a
number of people to to take come

2190
02:11:17,610 --> 02:11:20,580
in and listen to our way of
doing things which is totally

2191
02:11:20,580 --> 02:11:21,600
alien to what why

2192
02:11:21,599 --> 02:11:24,959
don't why don't we just do
online course we don't have to

2193
02:11:24,959 --> 02:11:28,709
leave or go anywhere about this.
We just don't do any. There you

2194
02:11:28,709 --> 02:11:29,069
go.

2195
02:11:30,510 --> 02:11:32,010
Move by God to know what

2196
02:11:32,460 --> 02:11:45,180
I imagine all the people who
could do that. Oh yeah. Classic

2197
02:11:47,580 --> 02:11:50,220
well want to thank you people
for helping us out here on show

2198
02:11:50,220 --> 02:11:56,220
1022 Bruce Schwalm in Harrisburg
Pennsylvania Senate check in

2199
02:11:56,220 --> 02:12:01,230
front and $25 Sir Pete Baron of
North Holland and freeze lon for

2200
02:12:01,230 --> 02:12:05,880
his lamb Baba. Yes. On it. 12345

2201
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,610
He's the Baron of North Holland
and freeze line.

2202
02:12:08,970 --> 02:12:11,430
Yeah, I have read his note
because he's a baron. Is

2203
02:12:11,430 --> 02:12:14,130
payments to get back on track
for my tuition fee payments for

2204
02:12:14,130 --> 02:12:17,670
the media deconstruction school
have no agenda. Just what we're

2205
02:12:17,670 --> 02:12:24,000
talking about is exactly aka no
K and O W agenda. Looking into

2206
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:26,520
setting a budget scholarship at
the school for students

2207
02:12:26,550 --> 02:12:28,290
a grant for scholarship.

2208
02:12:28,650 --> 02:12:34,920
Write a grant onward Ben Todman
in Mount Riverview New South.

2209
02:12:36,870 --> 02:12:39,600
you clear your throat he
actually he went on a little bit

2210
02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:43,440
he says I'm looking into setting
up a grant for the scholarship

2211
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:46,650
at the school that's our school
for students not clear on the

2212
02:12:46,650 --> 02:12:50,970
details of perhaps some Dukes
and barons are interested karma

2213
02:12:50,970 --> 02:12:55,410
has served me well. He's I can't
believe you missed this clear

2214
02:12:55,410 --> 02:12:56,850
money making opportunity.

2215
02:12:57,390 --> 02:13:00,030
Yeah, just another one of them.
Went out wow.

2216
02:13:00,030 --> 02:13:01,830
We want to do we won't do that
one either. All right.

2217
02:13:02,010 --> 02:13:04,860
Let's hope for the best but Sir
Pete's got he's got a lot of

2218
02:13:04,890 --> 02:13:08,430
gumption. That guy. That guy's
that guy. He'll figure it out.

2219
02:13:08,460 --> 02:13:12,870
Oh, tell us what to do. John
Roman a Ben Todman. I'm sorry. I

2220
02:13:13,710 --> 02:13:16,920
know I did Ben Thomas mount
Riverview New South Wales. Okay,

2221
02:13:16,950 --> 02:13:21,570
good. 100 John Rob and a Parts
Unknown Baron. Ladder Quinn

2222
02:13:21,600 --> 02:13:26,160
ladder Quinn in Houston, Texas.
$100. Robert Wiltshire in Burke

2223
02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:33,120
Virginia. $100 is nice. Richard
Altman 8365 dude named Mohammed

2224
02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:40,470
Ali. Oh 808 which is 100 named
Holly a boob for your birthday.

2225
02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:44,610
John can't read this
spreadsheet. Devorah read it and

2226
02:13:44,610 --> 02:13:48,930
I Adrian Ramos this by the way,
I've changed my way of

2227
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:50,880
presenting this spreadsheet.
That's why you haven't heard so

2228
02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:51,900
many bitches and moans

2229
02:13:51,930 --> 02:13:54,510
it's been working quite well.
I'm impressed. I thought it was

2230
02:13:54,510 --> 02:13:55,320
the B 12.

2231
02:13:56,130 --> 02:14:00,060
Yeah, no, no. Okay. Adrian
Ramos. Seven. B 12. is what got

2232
02:14:00,060 --> 02:14:08,340
me lib Jo. Adrian Ramos. 7339.
Sir got Nate and Sebastopol,

2233
02:14:08,340 --> 02:14:17,100
California. 69696959696 Okay,
got it. I know what 6969 It was

2234
02:14:17,100 --> 02:14:21,210
a check. He always gives 6969
Got it. To Ryan White Knight of

2235
02:14:21,210 --> 02:14:23,790
the rainbow nation. Not Houston,
Texas.

2236
02:14:24,059 --> 02:14:27,029
He's He's OTG not in Houston.

2237
02:14:29,220 --> 02:14:38,160
6669. Sir, start to slaughter,
slaughter, barf and

2238
02:14:38,580 --> 02:14:41,730
amorphous slaughter barefaced
slaughter. Martius.

2239
02:14:41,730 --> 02:14:47,310
Harvest. I guess I don't hope
Rhode Island. Happy birthday,

2240
02:14:47,310 --> 02:14:53,520
Jenny boy. He says Sir Chris in
the low Earth orbit by by the

2241
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:59,640
way I was 6666. And so as Chris
66 out of 6666 today in Houston.

2242
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,060
Double birthday call up for JCD
Matthew rent mound a Minnesotan,

2243
02:15:06,090 --> 02:15:12,510
Rennes Rennes brens In mound
6666 for the pager fund. I guess

2244
02:15:12,540 --> 02:15:16,230
you're getting one. It was got
something funny to say in 6666

2245
02:15:16,230 --> 02:15:21,480
today, Devon and right in New
Brunswick New Jersey. Another

2246
02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:24,210
happy birthday for though this
always smokin hot girlfriend.

2247
02:15:24,240 --> 02:15:28,080
Yeah, I mean let me same
birthday I do. Yep. Veg we have

2248
02:15:28,080 --> 02:15:32,520
a whole bunch of birthdays
today. Brian Brian Baron sir

2249
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:36,900
Baron Mark Tanner in Whittier,
California 6666 or Gregory Warli

2250
02:15:36,900 --> 02:15:40,170
in evington, Virginia 6633 and
now they have

2251
02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:42,990
Darren not the Baron Mark Tanner
and have a note.

2252
02:15:44,220 --> 02:15:46,530
Now as he says that check in
twice a month. Oh, yeah, it

2253
02:15:46,530 --> 02:15:49,440
looked highlighted as a note I'm
sorry. Notes highlight is a

2254
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:54,420
check. Okay. The check
sometimes, I mean, if they do it

2255
02:15:54,420 --> 02:15:58,650
themselves, this is a shot to a
bank. Okay, you got to count

2256
02:15:58,650 --> 02:16:01,410
somewhere they shouldn't this
check every twice a month. Nice

2257
02:16:01,470 --> 02:16:05,970
that Greg Gill Brecht after
Kevin Johnson Kevin Johnson 6633

2258
02:16:06,030 --> 02:16:09,630
And he says Happy Birthday to
smokin hot wife Nikki she's on

2259
02:16:09,630 --> 02:16:12,360
the list. She's turning 33

2260
02:16:14,490 --> 02:16:18,810
Yeah, that reminds me I should
read this note was got a note

2261
02:16:18,810 --> 02:16:24,960
for somebody donated 70
something and he says Ms.

2262
02:16:24,990 --> 02:16:32,040
skripal of the poisoning fame is
33 years old and her dad is 66

2263
02:16:35,130 --> 02:16:38,700
Say no more. We get it wink wink
nudge nudge

2264
02:16:40,469 --> 02:16:52,619
fugu fu guna now it's full Gugu
Bray sacri Gil Brecht Brekke 66

2265
02:16:52,979 --> 02:17:00,179
Robert verb Berber in Palmetto
Florida, home of the insect 66

2266
02:17:00,779 --> 02:17:04,169
Nicolas Hannah 66 in
Indianapolis is all 60 I'm going

2267
02:17:04,169 --> 02:17:06,959
to read all the 66 as these are
all happy birthday John

2268
02:17:06,959 --> 02:17:12,149
donations 66. Richard Riley
illumise California sir Danny

2269
02:17:12,179 --> 02:17:20,969
goad love the name goede 66
Brian bursts bearish or bird the

2270
02:17:20,969 --> 02:17:27,449
ERC Bierce Bierce sir Eric V M
Baronet of the valley in Van

2271
02:17:27,449 --> 02:17:31,859
eyes, and he says Happy Birthday
dude. Louis Pipkin in

2272
02:17:31,859 --> 02:17:38,159
Tallahassee, Florida, Jonathan
Farish in Liberal Kansas and he

2273
02:17:38,159 --> 02:17:44,459
Lenin in Washington DC war
Nicholas Robinson in Somerville,

2274
02:17:44,459 --> 02:17:49,499
Massachusetts Eric McKerrow
wits, McCarran Lovitz, mcare

2275
02:17:49,499 --> 02:17:55,589
EVITTS, I'm thinking Monica
Lansing St. Monica, Dame in

2276
02:17:55,589 --> 02:18:01,439
Drayton Valley, Alberta. Paul,
plain old Paul in 66 is other

2277
02:18:01,439 --> 02:18:07,739
newer Naveed Khan unknown. John
Hall, Cynthia Hickson, Daniel

2278
02:18:07,739 --> 02:18:13,859
Smith, Alex Vander Hengst.
Matthew

2279
02:18:14,610 --> 02:18:18,420
of the stud is what that means.
Who Yeah,

2280
02:18:18,660 --> 02:18:23,400
sir Matthew, Jana Zhu ski in
Chicago. gave a shit Bazian in

2281
02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:28,590
San Francisco over here. Come to
the meet up. Phil road. dokkan

2282
02:18:28,590 --> 02:18:35,550
Noctus Phil Rana Connexus Torben
Peterson or Pettersen Brian,

2283
02:18:35,790 --> 02:18:41,670
Clem Zach, DAF Daphne Mitchell,
sir dirtbag Dave Melissa Hodges,

2284
02:18:41,670 --> 02:18:42,930
who author Gore bits,

2285
02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:44,400
sir Rob obits,

2286
02:18:44,460 --> 02:18:54,180
Sir Arthur Rob Tyson. Brad
Doherty Heil co send t ma, Pune

2287
02:18:54,180 --> 02:18:57,870
buco Sama, Santa Monica in
Hamilton

2288
02:18:57,900 --> 02:18:59,280
in Houghton, Houghton

2289
02:18:59,820 --> 02:19:04,050
Mautner. Woods, the woods he
lives in the woods. It's a he

2290
02:19:05,880 --> 02:19:12,510
Randy Holcomb Sir Don Baron of
New Hampshire 66. Theodore Hart.

2291
02:19:12,870 --> 02:19:18,780
Austin Wilson Pedro a Thiago, it
Thiago. I think. By the way

2292
02:19:18,780 --> 02:19:22,830
Austin's in Sammamish Mark Berg,
AZ which is a ritzy little tiny

2293
02:19:22,830 --> 02:19:27,330
little white suburb. Mark Borg,
AZ Brian Navarro James Blair,

2294
02:19:27,360 --> 02:19:34,470
Bart Burt 10s He lives in best
Netherlands. Best Yeah, yeah.

2295
02:19:35,010 --> 02:19:41,010
Best. Dominate go bail in
Calgary, Lance forest and

2296
02:19:41,010 --> 02:19:43,260
Newport NORTHCOM. Get a lot of
well wishers. I want to thank

2297
02:19:43,260 --> 02:19:49,080
you all for doing their love
man. Nicholas counts, and I'm

2298
02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:55,740
sure he does. Nikolas counts.
Pa. Jan Leclerc is sir. Kuwait.

2299
02:19:55,860 --> 02:20:00,720
Boo. Boo Boo. Could you bring
you in Luxembourg? That's

2300
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:06,660
Luxenberg Yacob Honan are Jacob
Christopher grand Covington

2301
02:20:06,930 --> 02:20:11,520
Louisiana Joseph green sir. Do
suffer night of the forest

2302
02:20:11,520 --> 02:20:14,070
springs funk for kids and a time
traveler.

2303
02:20:14,220 --> 02:20:18,720
That's our boy show. That's our
boy here in Austin. Well, there

2304
02:20:18,720 --> 02:20:25,770
he is. Loves the show. Renee can
neeg Clinique in Eindhoven. Why

2305
02:20:25,770 --> 02:20:30,810
do you pronounce that? kanessa?
Can you get can this? Can you?

2306
02:20:34,440 --> 02:20:38,760
Alexander Mercari McCurry have
oh, and that's the end of our

2307
02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:41,850
group, by the way, with
Eindhoven Alexander and record

2308
02:20:41,850 --> 02:20:44,820
you have is 5555 and he says
Happy Birthday. He doesn't care

2309
02:20:44,820 --> 02:20:47,730
about the about the exact
amount. Sure Kevin would in

2310
02:20:47,730 --> 02:20:51,150
Manchester, New Hampshire. And
he wants this

2311
02:20:51,210 --> 02:20:53,970
he has donation towards his
daughter Kayla Woods Dame hood

2312
02:20:53,970 --> 02:20:56,940
and add her to the birthday
lists. Yes, she's on there.

2313
02:20:57,480 --> 02:21:02,190
Steven Smith, Sir Tom dari in
DeForest, Wisconsin. Those are

2314
02:21:02,190 --> 02:21:05,820
5510 Double nickels on the dime
Michael gates 50 to 80 and the

2315
02:21:05,820 --> 02:21:09,030
following people are $50 donors
name and location if available.

2316
02:21:09,030 --> 02:21:12,720
Eric Olson not available, Scott
e night and lost wages Nevada

2317
02:21:12,720 --> 02:21:17,760
Matthew Jenna zoo ski once again
in Chicago. Robert claesson in

2318
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:24,450
London, Paul van Cordilla
Cordyline Cardinal are in

2319
02:21:28,140 --> 02:21:28,980
a mountain,

2320
02:21:29,430 --> 02:21:36,150
a mountain Bradley leaden and
Todd Moore is cracking myself

2321
02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:39,600
up, you know, in Virginia. But
do you even McConnell? Do you

2322
02:21:39,600 --> 02:21:43,080
notice how many Dutch people are
in the list today because the

2323
02:21:43,080 --> 02:21:44,550
Dutch care about birthdays

2324
02:21:44,580 --> 02:21:47,430
they do. They're all sitting in
a chair as we speak in a

2325
02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:51,420
circle listening to the show.
Drinking coffee. Hey, there it

2326
02:21:51,420 --> 02:21:51,780
is.

2327
02:21:54,420 --> 02:21:58,620
Steve McConnell in Cortland,
Cortland Ohio sir Brett Farrell

2328
02:21:58,620 --> 02:22:00,930
in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. We
believe this where it's from and

2329
02:22:00,930 --> 02:22:02,820
last but not least psoralen been
over here in Oakland,

2330
02:22:02,820 --> 02:22:05,700
California. Hey, Alan. And I
want to thank all these folks

2331
02:22:05,700 --> 02:22:08,850
for contributing to this show.
1022 and wishing me a happy

2332
02:22:08,850 --> 02:22:11,010
birthday. Yeah, that was really
nice. I mean, the show over the

2333
02:22:11,010 --> 02:22:11,640
top Yeah,

2334
02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:14,520
I love it when people love you.
It gives me great pleasure

2335
02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:17,220
because that means that they
that there are more people who

2336
02:22:17,220 --> 02:22:18,540
see me the way I see you.

2337
02:22:19,050 --> 02:22:24,150
Yeah. Thank you have a lot of
people came in with it with my

2338
02:22:24,150 --> 02:22:28,860
date for 518 Oh, and there's a
slew of them too. And we don't

2339
02:22:28,890 --> 02:22:32,340
don't get mentioned. But we do
have a lot of happy birthday.

2340
02:22:32,910 --> 02:22:36,300
Wishes. Very, very, very sweet.
Thank you all very much. And

2341
02:22:36,570 --> 02:22:39,060
remembering our value for value
model. The deconstruction

2342
02:22:39,060 --> 02:22:42,750
continues with back on Sunday
with another episode as we do

2343
02:22:42,750 --> 02:22:45,300
twice a week here on the no
agenda show. Remember us at VO

2344
02:22:45,300 --> 02:22:49,710
red.org/and. Everybody can use
some jobs, karma

2345
02:22:49,740 --> 02:22:57,540
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. You've got

2346
02:22:57,750 --> 02:23:02,520
karma. And before we go on to
our birthdays, I do have a

2347
02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:06,750
douchebag call out from Dame
Elise Garling who has surfaced

2348
02:23:06,750 --> 02:23:10,710
once again. Our salmon Fisher
bass.

2349
02:23:11,369 --> 02:23:14,399
She does she do the live in
Allah.

2350
02:23:15,570 --> 02:23:18,930
Limoncello. Yes, she has
contacted our girl. Did you did

2351
02:23:18,930 --> 02:23:19,980
you get an email from her?

2352
02:23:20,699 --> 02:23:21,659
Yep, same email.

2353
02:23:21,780 --> 02:23:24,600
Okay. All right. Good. So you
want our address so that she can

2354
02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:27,930
send off some new limoncello and
it's good we'll she's about to

2355
02:23:27,930 --> 02:23:30,900
get back on the boat. She got a
couple months. She goes Dutch to

2356
02:23:30,900 --> 02:23:39,180
do spray cola. Oh, yeah. Pebble
Mine. The Right. Yeah. How long

2357
02:23:39,180 --> 02:23:41,280
is she out? She's a couple
months she'll be gone.

2358
02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:43,470
I have no idea. Okay, here we

2359
02:23:43,470 --> 02:23:55,530
go. My good podcast buddy John
C. Dvorak. Can we also

2360
02:23:55,530 --> 02:23:58,890
congratulate Christopher Juuso
actually, Christopher graduates

2361
02:23:58,890 --> 02:24:02,850
his brother Jack, he turns 30
Today, Devin and righteous Happy

2362
02:24:02,850 --> 02:24:06,240
Birthday to a smokin hot
girlfriend Tommy Lynn. She's a

2363
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:09,390
fifth baby as well. Kevin
Johnson to his smokin hot wife

2364
02:24:09,390 --> 02:24:13,680
Nikki. She turns 33 Is John
turned 66 Young clerics are

2365
02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:17,430
quick to move 37 On the April
tense Sir Kevin Woods is Happy

2366
02:24:17,430 --> 02:24:19,890
Birthday to his daughter Kayla
in advance. We'll be celebrating

2367
02:24:19,890 --> 02:24:23,400
on the 10th as well. Eric Olson
celebrated yesterday and served

2368
02:24:23,400 --> 02:24:26,010
on Baron of New Hampshire we'll
be celebrating his birthday on

2369
02:24:26,010 --> 02:24:28,320
the seventh one year younger
than you Happy Birthday

2370
02:24:28,320 --> 02:24:31,080
everybody from your buddies here
at the best podcast in the

2371
02:24:31,080 --> 02:24:37,410
universe. Nice to see everyone.

2372
02:24:37,860 --> 02:24:40,830
So Rakesh show I want to remind
people they didn't get in for my

2373
02:24:40,830 --> 02:24:43,290
birthday thing. Sunday will
still work.

2374
02:24:44,610 --> 02:24:50,370
Okay, that's that's very kind.
So once someone sent me a

2375
02:24:50,370 --> 02:24:54,480
rundown, which I thought was
quite cute, of the historical

2376
02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:59,370
census questions, since this has
been such a big deal with that,

2377
02:24:59,370 --> 02:25:03,510
yeah. I'm here I wanted so
things that are no longer on the

2378
02:25:03,510 --> 02:25:09,570
Census. This is true. In 1820, a
few of the questions were how

2379
02:25:09,570 --> 02:25:12,810
many other free persons except
Indians are in your household?

2380
02:25:12,900 --> 02:25:17,580
How many slaves? How many
persons not naturalized? You see

2381
02:25:17,580 --> 02:25:21,210
where this is going? Yeah, Cory
course it gets better from here

2382
02:25:22,290 --> 02:25:28,080
in 1830 How many deaf and dumb
whites under age 14 over 14 and

2383
02:25:28,080 --> 02:25:33,060
under 25? Or over 25? How many
blind whites? How many deaf and

2384
02:25:33,060 --> 02:25:37,980
dumb slaves and free blacks
under age 14 over 1425 and 25?

2385
02:25:38,010 --> 02:25:42,180
How many blind slaves and free
blacks how many white foreigners

2386
02:25:42,180 --> 02:25:46,350
not naturalized? And this has
been pretty consistent thing.

2387
02:25:47,550 --> 02:25:53,370
1840 How many idiotic or insane
whites? They could put back on

2388
02:25:53,790 --> 02:26:00,180
this. And they also to be fair,
they weren't racist? How many

2389
02:26:00,180 --> 02:26:05,010
idiotic or insane slaves and
free blacks? And then can the

2390
02:26:05,010 --> 02:26:08,580
person read and write? Is the
person deaf? Dumb, blind,

2391
02:26:08,580 --> 02:26:14,520
insane, idiotic, a popper or a
convict? Wow, a popper I like

2392
02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:15,210
popper.

2393
02:26:15,480 --> 02:26:16,620
Popper is a good word.

2394
02:26:17,010 --> 02:26:20,700
And that's the same man same
question. Then we move to 1870

2395
02:26:21,180 --> 02:26:24,090
whether or not parents or a
foreign birth can the person

2396
02:26:24,090 --> 02:26:27,120
read and write is the person
deaf, dumb, blind, insane or

2397
02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:31,380
idiotic? That seems to be a kind
of a trend. Whether or not a

2398
02:26:31,380 --> 02:26:34,860
person was sick or temporarily
disable this is 1880 and the

2399
02:26:34,860 --> 02:26:38,220
nature of the illness kind of
invasive. And then whether the

2400
02:26:38,220 --> 02:26:41,670
person was blind, deaf, dumb,
idiotic, insane, maimed cripple,

2401
02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:46,740
bedridden or permanently
disabled. What do they need to

2402
02:26:46,740 --> 02:26:50,220
know all that for? The
demographics 1890

2403
02:26:50,220 --> 02:26:54,120
psychographics. John, whether
suffering from acute or chronic

2404
02:26:54,120 --> 02:26:56,850
disease with the name of disease
and length of time afflicted

2405
02:26:56,850 --> 02:27:00,270
whether defective in mind sight
hearing or speech or where

2406
02:27:00,270 --> 02:27:04,110
they're crippled, maimed or
deformed and whether prisoner

2407
02:27:04,110 --> 02:27:08,010
convict homeless child or popper
and then finally I have 1900

2408
02:27:09,660 --> 02:27:12,480
places of birth place of birth
the father place of birth of

2409
02:27:12,480 --> 02:27:15,270
mother attended school can read
can write can speak English.

2410
02:27:16,770 --> 02:27:18,180
Changed rather dramatically?

2411
02:27:18,840 --> 02:27:20,100
1900

2412
02:27:21,150 --> 02:27:24,510
Roosevelt, so he must have
changed it.

2413
02:27:25,140 --> 02:27:29,100
Not sure. Just know that the
look, there's some something

2414
02:27:29,100 --> 02:27:33,990
obviously changed. That's kind
of interesting.

2415
02:27:35,640 --> 02:27:40,050
All right. Well, we got while
we're on the LGBT topic,

2416
02:27:40,410 --> 02:27:46,650
something new happening in
Columbus, Ohio at now. All

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02:27:46,650 --> 02:27:51,150
people are equal. Men, women,
straight gay, lesbian, or I

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02:27:51,150 --> 02:27:57,120
should say lesbian, gay. I can't
even LGBTQ Q AP. We're all

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02:27:57,120 --> 02:28:00,750
equal. And love is love.
relationships, relationships,

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02:28:00,750 --> 02:28:01,290
correct?

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02:28:02,400 --> 02:28:07,200
If you say so. No, this is what
I've been taught. Okay. This is

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02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:10,770
not what you've been taught by
Gen Z and the millennials. That

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02:28:10,770 --> 02:28:13,800
everybody's the same. Yeah. And
all relationships are the same.

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02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:16,170
And everyone's the same. It's
all equal. I love and I

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02:28:16,170 --> 02:28:19,410
believe and I don't think so.
Love is love. Love to say love

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02:28:19,410 --> 02:28:22,020
is love. Love is my truth and
it's getting to do it. There's

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02:28:22,020 --> 02:28:25,290
love. There is love got to do
with it.

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02:28:25,320 --> 02:28:29,400
There you go. There's a new
program elm aimed at helping L

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02:28:29,400 --> 02:28:34,830
the LGBT community in Columbus,
Ohio. It turns out domestic

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02:28:34,830 --> 02:28:38,190
violence is quite different.
They are by their own admission,

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02:28:38,220 --> 02:28:39,000
a new program

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02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:42,540
aimed to stop domestic violence
in a specific community.

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02:28:42,780 --> 02:28:45,720
Franklin County's municipal
court now has a program for the

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02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:50,460
LGBTQ community 20 V. Shelby
Croft talk to an offender and

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02:28:50,460 --> 02:28:51,780
the judges behind it.

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02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:56,580
I just have a problem with
alcohol and I didn't want to

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02:28:56,580 --> 02:29:02,370
face it. I just get out of my
mind. I go crazy. And I just get

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02:29:02,370 --> 02:29:03,720
uncontrollable. The lack

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02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:06,660
of control leads to violence for
this man who doesn't want his

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02:29:06,660 --> 02:29:10,320
face shown violence toward his
husband. He's been charged

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02:29:10,350 --> 02:29:11,430
several times

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02:29:11,460 --> 02:29:15,390
within a year. I feel I had for

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02:29:15,420 --> 02:29:18,750
all domestic violence one more
and he's headed to prison.

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02:29:19,170 --> 02:29:22,560
That's what's over my head right
now. And that's not something to

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02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:23,310
play around with.

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02:29:23,340 --> 02:29:26,130
So this offender got serious
after his last charge in his

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02:29:26,130 --> 02:29:28,680
following through with his
probation, counseling for

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02:29:28,680 --> 02:29:31,860
alcohol and counseling for the
domestic violence. The first

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02:29:31,860 --> 02:29:34,140
person in a new court design
program,

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02:29:34,140 --> 02:29:37,740
statistically it's been found
that jail does not decrease

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02:29:37,740 --> 02:29:39,660
recidivism and increases it.

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02:29:39,689 --> 02:29:42,059
I don't want to have to put
people in jail. I know that

2453
02:29:42,059 --> 02:29:45,719
putting someone in jail isn't
helping them with any underlying

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02:29:45,719 --> 02:29:46,139
issues

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02:29:46,140 --> 02:29:48,780
judges, James so gradient,
Eileen Paley, have worked for

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02:29:48,780 --> 02:29:51,990
almost three years with several
agencies to develop a domestic

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02:29:51,990 --> 02:29:56,040
violence program geared entirely
toward LGBTQ offenders. I

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02:29:56,039 --> 02:29:59,429
was stunned when I found out
that there was no this done this

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02:29:59,609 --> 02:30:01,079
wasn't anywhere else in the
country.

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02:30:01,110 --> 02:30:03,870
I think it's the secret that
people don't like to talk about.

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02:30:03,870 --> 02:30:06,510
Myles stickle is the Director of
Behavioral Health for equity

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02:30:06,510 --> 02:30:09,360
toss, he was tasked with coming
up with this program that has

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02:30:09,360 --> 02:30:13,080
never existed. Explaining the
dynamic of same gender couples

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02:30:13,080 --> 02:30:15,090
is much different than
heterosexual. So

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02:30:15,120 --> 02:30:19,710
mostly the males heading the
females and this one this case,

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02:30:19,710 --> 02:30:21,300
it's you have to males

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02:30:21,330 --> 02:30:24,870
there's other things that create
power and control differences in

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02:30:24,870 --> 02:30:26,100
our relationships smile

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02:30:26,100 --> 02:30:28,830
started with an evidence based
model for treatment than

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02:30:28,830 --> 02:30:32,130
incorporated needs specific to
the LGBTQ community,

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02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:36,540
everyone will first go into an
eight week psycho educational

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02:30:36,570 --> 02:30:40,140
group, where we'll lay out the
foundation of like what is

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02:30:40,140 --> 02:30:43,680
violence in a relationship, how
to have healthy effective

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02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:46,560
relationships, thought disorders
that lead to violence

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02:30:46,590 --> 02:30:49,800
that will be followed by 32
weeks of group therapy tailored

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02:30:49,800 --> 02:30:51,150
to specific problems.

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02:30:51,180 --> 02:30:54,210
That's ultimately all I want is
just people to get help and not

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02:30:54,210 --> 02:30:55,170
have to come back and see me,

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02:30:55,200 --> 02:30:57,360
I hope I can make everyone proud

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02:30:57,420 --> 02:31:01,110
in downtown Columbus, Shelby
Croft and TV news, the judges

2481
02:31:01,110 --> 02:31:04,380
hope the need for this program
will be recognized and modeled

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02:31:04,380 --> 02:31:07,050
nationally, they also hope it
paves the way for more

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02:31:07,050 --> 02:31:09,330
culturally specific programs.

2484
02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:12,060
This doesn't sound right.

2485
02:31:12,660 --> 02:31:14,220
culturally specific

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02:31:14,220 --> 02:31:18,480
programs. Exactly. Because
there's kicker Yeah. And so

2487
02:31:19,109 --> 02:31:22,439
it's normal for black men to
beat up their women or Muslims.

2488
02:31:22,919 --> 02:31:25,529
Oh, now Yeah. Muslims. Yeah,
yeah. Muslims, that's what

2489
02:31:25,529 --> 02:31:28,859
they're supposed to do. Nor do
they really do that when they

2490
02:31:28,859 --> 02:31:29,549
marry a muslim.

2491
02:31:30,539 --> 02:31:33,299
culturally specific so different
rules. That's what that's what

2492
02:31:33,299 --> 02:31:35,939
I'm here and different rules.
Yeah, there's no different rules

2493
02:31:35,939 --> 02:31:39,299
is nonsense. And the same with
the universities. George

2494
02:31:39,299 --> 02:31:43,649
Washington University had a I
think it's actually going on now

2495
02:31:43,649 --> 02:31:47,909
diversity workshop. And they
have a number of programs and

2496
02:31:47,939 --> 02:31:52,919
the one for today is titled
Christian privilege, but are

2497
02:31:52,919 --> 02:31:55,769
found by our founding fathers
were all Christian. Right.

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02:31:55,799 --> 02:32:00,689
That's the subtitle of the of
the workshop. Because Christian

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02:32:00,689 --> 02:32:05,609
Christian privilege is a thing
now. It wasn't enough going

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02:32:05,609 --> 02:32:09,629
after white old dudes who are
straight and cisgendered.

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02:32:09,629 --> 02:32:12,059
Actually, they have more more
workshops.

2502
02:32:12,870 --> 02:32:15,690
Let's see they have had Jose
teach in these workshops.

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02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:19,380
Well, that you have to recognize
your privilege heterosexual

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02:32:19,380 --> 02:32:23,340
privilege. Cisgender. Privilege
abled borrows sexual privilege.

2505
02:32:23,340 --> 02:32:30,570
So yes, you are privileged. You
are privileged. Able bodied

2506
02:32:30,570 --> 02:32:32,430
privilege socio economic

2507
02:32:32,430 --> 02:32:37,740
privilege burden, unconscious
bias heterosexual burden, The

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02:32:37,740 --> 02:32:42,150
White Man's Burden. You've heard
of that? Yes. Well, I think we

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02:32:42,150 --> 02:32:43,110
should reintroduce it.

2510
02:32:44,070 --> 02:32:49,710
Good luck with that. Start
making your signs for the March

2511
02:32:53,490 --> 02:32:56,910
it's pretty bad. Yeah, it's
pretty bad.

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02:33:00,450 --> 02:33:01,530
That's happy note.

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02:33:01,560 --> 02:33:04,260
I got a little deconstruction
for you. Not that we didn't

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02:33:04,260 --> 02:33:08,070
really know this. But I think
it's fun to do. The whole world

2515
02:33:08,070 --> 02:33:17,430
saw. saw the Sinclair broadcast
group propagandizing. The

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02:33:17,430 --> 02:33:20,640
message everyone had to say the
same thing the same? Yeah, we

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02:33:20,640 --> 02:33:26,400
did a bid on it. Yeah. And so I
pulled one of Conan O'Brien's

2518
02:33:27,090 --> 02:33:33,750
examples of this from
2006 2014 2015. Yeah, he used to

2519
02:33:33,750 --> 02:33:36,720
do this constantly. I used to do
this a lot. Yeah, he would. He

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02:33:36,720 --> 02:33:38,220
would get the same message.

2521
02:33:38,220 --> 02:33:41,010
He had some specialists that
that worked in his in his comedy

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02:33:41,010 --> 02:33:43,740
writing team that could do this.
That's what it came. Yes.

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02:33:43,890 --> 02:33:47,940
So just so you know. This is not
new. And I can I can tell a lot

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02:33:47,940 --> 02:33:50,670
of people who are tweeting and
are emailing. They're shocked.

2525
02:33:50,700 --> 02:33:54,030
Of course we were so jaded. I
have to be honest. After doing

2526
02:33:54,030 --> 02:33:57,570
this show for a decade, that we
forget to remind people this has

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02:33:57,570 --> 02:34:01,350
been going on for a long time.
In fact, if the if the M five M

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02:34:01,500 --> 02:34:06,120
does anything, they don't go
back even to Michael Moore when

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02:34:06,120 --> 02:34:09,450
he was all for you know,
investigating SSRIs this is all

2530
02:34:09,450 --> 02:34:14,250
the stuff that the gems, this is
what we dig up. So it's not even

2531
02:34:14,250 --> 02:34:16,560
digging up. I mean, it just had
to go back into my archive and

2532
02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:17,610
find it here is

2533
02:34:17,640 --> 02:34:20,520
people think the big news
stories today are the snowstorm

2534
02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:23,700
that's hitting the Midwest or
the looming federal budget cuts.

2535
02:34:24,000 --> 02:34:28,980
But judging by local news is
apparently an even bigger story.

2536
02:34:29,070 --> 02:34:30,990
That sweeping the nation right
now. Check it out.

2537
02:34:32,040 --> 02:34:34,260
Well, if you filled up your gas
tank lately, then you don't need

2538
02:34:34,260 --> 02:34:37,050
us to tell you that gas prices
are back on the rise. You

2539
02:34:37,050 --> 02:34:40,230
don't need us to tell you that
gas prices are back on the rise.

2540
02:34:40,230 --> 02:34:41,130
You don't need us to

2541
02:34:41,130 --> 02:34:44,160
tell you the gas prices are back
on the rise. You don't need us

2542
02:34:44,160 --> 02:34:46,890
to tell you that gas prices are
back on the rise. You don't need

2543
02:34:46,920 --> 02:34:50,280
us to tell you that gas prices
are back on the rise. You don't

2544
02:34:50,280 --> 02:34:53,400
have to tell you that gas prices
are back on the right you don't

2545
02:34:53,400 --> 02:34:58,200
need us to tell you back on the
road. You don't need

2546
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:00,120
us to tell you that gas prices
are back on All

2547
02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:03,150
right, you don't need us to tell
you gas prices are back on the

2548
02:35:03,150 --> 02:35:03,690
rise, or

2549
02:35:03,690 --> 02:35:06,840
you don't need us to tell you
that gas prices are back on the

2550
02:35:06,840 --> 02:35:09,810
rise. And you don't need us to
tell you that gas prices are

2551
02:35:09,810 --> 02:35:10,620
back on the rock,

2552
02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:13,680
you don't need us to tell you
gas prices are back on the rock,

2553
02:35:13,710 --> 02:35:16,800
or you don't need us to tell you
that. That's why we are back on

2554
02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:19,650
the line. So you don't need us
to tell you gas prices are on

2555
02:35:19,650 --> 02:35:20,820
the rise. I know.

2556
02:35:22,710 --> 02:35:26,070
Now, where this comes from just
a point of reference, and this

2557
02:35:26,070 --> 02:35:30,150
is in the show notes, find that
at na show notes.com Is this is

2558
02:35:30,180 --> 02:35:32,970
one of the many sources but this
is one of the big ones for these

2559
02:35:32,970 --> 02:35:38,400
local stations is something
called CNN news source. Then you

2560
02:35:38,400 --> 02:35:42,690
can you can see there's all
kinds of screenshots I guess, if

2561
02:35:42,690 --> 02:35:45,780
you register and if you pay for
it, then you can actually see

2562
02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:48,720
the whole interface and they
have all these packages. They

2563
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:51,270
have the intro text everything's
written it's it can actually

2564
02:35:51,270 --> 02:35:55,140
flow straight from this app into
your teleprompter. This is how

2565
02:35:55,140 --> 02:35:58,140
it really happens. This is and
it's CNN mind you it's a big

2566
02:35:58,170 --> 02:36:00,930
it's a much bigger part of the
business than people realize.

2567
02:36:02,250 --> 02:36:06,480
And it leads me to believe that
one of these outfits wrote the

2568
02:36:06,480 --> 02:36:12,660
response talking points to the
infamous Sinclair video. As

2569
02:36:12,660 --> 02:36:15,900
witnessed in this montage is
which we all just stay in

2570
02:36:15,900 --> 02:36:19,800
depending on what our
description is of them. Concern

2571
02:36:19,800 --> 02:36:24,930
I think there's a concern that
concerns resurface Is that is

2572
02:36:24,930 --> 02:36:28,680
that concerning to you? Isn't
that concerning? Nicole? I share

2573
02:36:28,680 --> 02:36:30,630
that concern greatly mayor
should we

2574
02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:33,390
be concerned should be a little
bit concerning

2575
02:36:33,390 --> 02:36:35,130
particularly when it echoes

2576
02:36:35,760 --> 02:36:39,120
it's not journalism, its
propaganda to run a propaganda

2577
02:36:39,120 --> 02:36:41,790
clip. This isn't journal
journalism. This is propaganda

2578
02:36:41,790 --> 02:36:43,620
was shoving propaganda down

2579
02:36:43,980 --> 02:36:47,760
local anchors, throat scripted
propaganda and accusations

2580
02:36:47,820 --> 02:36:48,960
propaganda

2581
02:36:49,620 --> 02:36:54,630
has to stop. That's a good one.

2582
02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:59,760
Is it is propaganda. Is it metal
propaganda? Or are we actually

2583
02:36:59,760 --> 02:37:01,680
the propaganda? That's the
question you

2584
02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:07,860
need to think is ludicrous. I
was watching, I was watching

2585
02:37:07,860 --> 02:37:12,780
NBC. Dude had Martin Luther
King's and 50th anniversary of

2586
02:37:12,810 --> 02:37:16,560
getting gunned down at this
motel party been turned into a

2587
02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:20,130
museum. So all the anchors, that
all the networks, everyone was

2588
02:37:20,130 --> 02:37:22,350
there, everyone was there.
They're all there. But the

2589
02:37:22,830 --> 02:37:25,410
problem was they did that
there's people in the

2590
02:37:25,410 --> 02:37:29,730
background. And in the worst
case, example is NBC. So you

2591
02:37:29,730 --> 02:37:33,300
have Lester Holt with his he's
got a headset on. He's got a

2592
02:37:33,300 --> 02:37:36,090
country man he's wearing and
he's standing there trying to

2593
02:37:36,420 --> 02:37:39,360
trying to do his report. But
there's all this noise and

2594
02:37:39,360 --> 02:37:43,680
racket because they set up a
shop behind him with a speaker.

2595
02:37:45,540 --> 02:37:50,910
And they're making a bunch of
noise. I have two examples. Like

2596
02:37:50,910 --> 02:37:52,920
that by the end of his
broadcast, by the way, it's

2597
02:37:52,920 --> 02:37:56,250
quite annoying, but I have the
two background mess clips, but

2598
02:37:56,250 --> 02:37:59,340
PLAY CLIP one and you hear what
I'm talking about. blaster.

2599
02:38:00,450 --> 02:38:03,390
Right Miguel Elmiger tonight.
Thank you now to another big

2600
02:38:03,390 --> 02:38:06,540
story. We're following new
details about the woman who went

2601
02:38:06,540 --> 02:38:09,540
on a shooting rampage at
YouTube's headquarters.

2602
02:38:09,810 --> 02:38:13,620
Investigators now say she was a
YouTube user who harbored a

2603
02:38:13,620 --> 02:38:16,830
grudge against the company. And
tonight new questions about

2604
02:38:16,830 --> 02:38:20,430
possible missed warnings with
police revealing they encounter

2605
02:38:20,430 --> 02:38:21,780
the shooter just out

2606
02:38:22,800 --> 02:38:23,760
as pretty annoying.

2607
02:38:23,880 --> 02:38:27,300
So you heard this I've gone so
then apparently I think it was

2608
02:38:27,300 --> 02:38:33,210
Maxine Waters. She was what it
sounds like. Somebody screeching

2609
02:38:33,210 --> 02:38:36,060
in the background. This is later
in the show. This is 10 seconds

2610
02:38:36,060 --> 02:38:39,180
and you can hear somebody Street
in the background with this

2611
02:38:39,180 --> 02:38:41,640
guy's trying to read the news,
the White House

2612
02:38:42,510 --> 02:38:46,380
China is firing back at a
potentially escalating trade war

2613
02:38:46,380 --> 02:38:49,110
with the White House and caught
in the middle of could be a lot

2614
02:38:49,110 --> 02:38:50,490
of American businesses

2615
02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:54,120
have it's hard to let me just
let me just rotate zoom the

2616
02:38:54,120 --> 02:38:55,680
White House, rotate

2617
02:38:55,710 --> 02:38:59,850
China enhance potentially
escalating trade war with the

2618
02:38:59,850 --> 02:39:00,810
White House? Yes,

2619
02:39:00,810 --> 02:39:03,690
yes, sir. There. We got it
through forensics.

2620
02:39:03,869 --> 02:39:07,109
Anyway, I thought this was so
amateurish to have this it was

2621
02:39:07,109 --> 02:39:12,029
distracting to the viewer. Yeah,
as bad was also on ABC, CBS. I

2622
02:39:12,029 --> 02:39:16,169
didn't read it check that news
feed but you know, that we gotta

2623
02:39:16,169 --> 02:39:17,609
get a better set up or
something. We

2624
02:39:17,610 --> 02:39:20,340
wouldn't stand for that at all.
Well,

2625
02:39:20,370 --> 02:39:23,670
I didn't stand for it. I made a
couple of clips. You did some

2626
02:39:23,670 --> 02:39:31,800
work on it. Hello, yeah. Let me
see. What else did we have? That

2627
02:39:31,800 --> 02:39:35,250
was important. Oh, did you see
the Google AI and search chief

2628
02:39:35,250 --> 02:39:35,940
step down?

2629
02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:38,970
Why did he What was the reason?

2630
02:39:39,690 --> 02:39:43,500
I don't think a reason was
given. Google doesn't have to

2631
02:39:43,500 --> 02:39:46,410
give any reasons they can do
whatever they want. Yeah, they

2632
02:39:46,410 --> 02:39:53,880
don't care. Let me see if it
says is leaving his post. Now, I

2633
02:39:53,880 --> 02:39:59,280
think he's the guy from Google
Brain is now taking over. James

2634
02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:00,900
Dean Do you know I'm Jeff Dean.

2635
02:40:01,110 --> 02:40:02,850
I don't know anybody at Google
anymore.

2636
02:40:03,210 --> 02:40:04,860
Did you ever did you know
anybody?

2637
02:40:05,130 --> 02:40:06,420
And by the way, Sergey,

2638
02:40:06,450 --> 02:40:10,440
what? You know, why can't we
investigate? Eric Schmidt, why

2639
02:40:10,440 --> 02:40:14,310
can't we investigate Sergey Brin
for, you know, collusion?

2640
02:40:14,790 --> 02:40:20,010
Delusion Russians? Yeah. I mean,
they're Russians. It's just a

2641
02:40:20,010 --> 02:40:20,520
thought.

2642
02:40:21,090 --> 02:40:25,800
Okay, got two clips I want to
play before we're done. One is

2643
02:40:25,800 --> 02:40:28,770
just a clip I want to get rid of
has been sitting on been going

2644
02:40:28,770 --> 02:40:33,540
on this is Chelsea Manning,
little known story, when Chelsea

2645
02:40:33,540 --> 02:40:37,230
Manning released all those
documents, people don't realize

2646
02:40:37,230 --> 02:40:39,780
that Wiki Leaks was not the
place you wanted to go with

2647
02:40:39,780 --> 02:40:42,150
them. And this is a clip that
kind of explains it. Interesting

2648
02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:45,750
how the real news media who hate
WikiLeaks, they wouldn't even

2649
02:40:45,750 --> 02:40:47,460
take this these documents

2650
02:40:47,490 --> 02:40:52,050
that said, I, you know, This
couldn't have happened any other

2651
02:40:52,050 --> 02:40:55,500
way it happened because of who I
am. And the values that I have,

2652
02:40:55,830 --> 02:40:59,790
and the time that I had, and the
means the technology that was

2653
02:40:59,790 --> 02:41:03,300
available. And also it almost
didn't happen. You know, I tried

2654
02:41:03,300 --> 02:41:07,170
to I tried to reach out through
through conventional

2655
02:41:07,170 --> 02:41:12,870
journalists, if you will, and,
you know, the technical

2656
02:41:12,870 --> 02:41:17,520
complexities, they just couldn't
work around. Well wait for one

2657
02:41:17,520 --> 02:41:20,610
second, could you explain
exactly what you did for people

2658
02:41:20,610 --> 02:41:23,850
aren't familiar with your
course, when you were in Iraq?

2659
02:41:23,850 --> 02:41:26,880
You got a hold of these
documents? You saw what you

2660
02:41:26,880 --> 02:41:29,880
described as the horror
documented and the government's

2661
02:41:29,880 --> 02:41:32,880
own pages and wanting to get it
out? Coming back to the United

2662
02:41:32,880 --> 02:41:37,080
States? It wasn't WikiLeaks, you
went to first. Right? Of course

2663
02:41:37,080 --> 02:41:42,210
not. I mean, of course not. They
weren't a thing. Yeah. There

2664
02:41:42,210 --> 02:41:52,440
weren't a name. And I mean, like
I, I ran out of time. I didn't

2665
02:41:52,440 --> 02:41:55,500
have a whole lot of time. I had
about five days and three of

2666
02:41:55,500 --> 02:41:57,870
those days were taken up by a
snowstorm for you were going

2667
02:41:57,870 --> 02:42:01,620
back to Iraq. Correct. So you
turned to the New York Times,

2668
02:42:01,830 --> 02:42:04,050
you tried to reach I reached out
to the Washington Post first,

2669
02:42:04,080 --> 02:42:07,830
and they didn't want the
documents or they did. I mean,

2670
02:42:08,580 --> 02:42:13,680
it's technology, technology is
the problem. securedrop is

2671
02:42:13,920 --> 02:42:18,810
something that came out of all
of this. It's now possible to

2672
02:42:18,810 --> 02:42:26,160
reach out to the Washington Post
and use these tools. Journalists

2673
02:42:26,160 --> 02:42:28,200
didn't really have an
understanding as to the

2674
02:42:28,200 --> 02:42:31,050
technical problem. Why you
couldn't just subscribe to them

2675
02:42:31,050 --> 02:42:35,070
by regular email. Exactly. Why
why Washington Post did you go

2676
02:42:35,070 --> 02:42:41,460
to this President's man exposing
Watergate? Well, that was that

2677
02:42:41,460 --> 02:42:42,960
was my reference was a movie.

2678
02:42:44,310 --> 02:42:46,050
Cheese. That's a pretty good
clip.

2679
02:42:46,710 --> 02:42:50,550
So she saw the movie, the
President's Man in Fear The

2680
02:42:50,550 --> 02:42:55,200
Washington Post is the way to
go. Yeah. Okay. Well,

2681
02:42:55,470 --> 02:42:59,010
it also shows she was very, very
sincere about getting this

2682
02:42:59,010 --> 02:43:00,990
information out. But there was a
whole thing wasn't just like

2683
02:43:00,990 --> 02:43:04,800
some, like gay chat room and
some other stuff was involved

2684
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:06,960
with this. There was something
else going on.

2685
02:43:06,960 --> 02:43:10,860
But she was brave. He at the
time was bragging about doing

2686
02:43:10,860 --> 02:43:14,160
it, and somebody busted him. I
mean, he would have never gotten

2687
02:43:14,160 --> 02:43:16,950
caught if he wasn't saying
something about it. Now it's

2688
02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:20,670
classic. Yeah. And, of course,
that person who busted him is

2689
02:43:20,670 --> 02:43:24,990
now dead. Who was that? I don't
remember his name, but he died

2690
02:43:24,990 --> 02:43:31,200
about three weeks ago. Oh, geez.
I thought that was rather weird.

2691
02:43:32,040 --> 02:43:34,530
Delta has been hacked. It was a
hit that

2692
02:43:34,650 --> 02:43:38,700
though. On a second, I have two
quick clips with the end here. I

2693
02:43:38,700 --> 02:43:41,130
didn't know this. I actually
traveled with Delta.

2694
02:43:41,400 --> 02:43:43,590
We're following some breaking
news. We've just learned of a

2695
02:43:43,590 --> 02:43:47,250
new cyber attack. This time
targeting Delta Airlines Delta

2696
02:43:47,250 --> 02:43:50,430
says customers payment
information may have been

2697
02:43:50,430 --> 02:43:54,660
breached last fall via a San
Jose based chat services

2698
02:43:54,660 --> 02:43:58,710
provider. The airline says only
a small subset of customers were

2699
02:43:58,710 --> 02:44:01,350
affected. And payment
information was exposed for

2700
02:44:01,350 --> 02:44:04,350
about three weeks. In a
statement Delta added it cannot

2701
02:44:04,350 --> 02:44:06,690
say definitively if any
customers information was

2702
02:44:06,690 --> 02:44:10,260
actually accessed. And it will
launch a dedicated website

2703
02:44:10,260 --> 02:44:15,570
delta.com response which will
address questions and concerns.

2704
02:44:15,630 --> 02:44:16,680
Go check it out.

2705
02:44:18,630 --> 02:44:25,200
book a flight. Yeah, Tina has
LifeLock and she gets regular

2706
02:44:25,230 --> 02:44:29,070
emails. It's very regular. She's
Oh, look, this was compromised.

2707
02:44:29,070 --> 02:44:31,920
This was compromised. I need to
write him down when she tells me

2708
02:44:32,070 --> 02:44:35,100
it's a lot more than we then you
know, then propagates through

2709
02:44:35,100 --> 02:44:36,030
the news channels.

2710
02:44:36,300 --> 02:44:38,370
Oh, yeah, you should definitely
bring that into the show. And

2711
02:44:38,370 --> 02:44:39,900
she's always saying hey, you
know,

2712
02:44:39,930 --> 02:44:42,660
I can put you on you know, but
get a discount. I got a coupon

2713
02:44:42,660 --> 02:44:46,530
code. Like, here's my stance
like no, because what's going to

2714
02:44:46,530 --> 02:44:50,310
happen is those guys are gonna
get hacked. I don't want all my

2715
02:44:50,310 --> 02:44:53,130
information in one place
anymore. It's just it's not it's

2716
02:44:53,130 --> 02:44:53,850
not helpful.

2717
02:44:53,970 --> 02:44:57,300
It's just like the single point
of failure password deal.

2718
02:44:58,590 --> 02:45:03,240
Yes, yes, one Are those I would
be remiss if I did not give you

2719
02:45:03,240 --> 02:45:08,430
an update on the Juan brothers.
These were the Pakistanis who

2720
02:45:08,430 --> 02:45:12,660
were mucking around in the
Democratic Congressional

2721
02:45:12,660 --> 02:45:19,230
democratic computers for months,
if not years. Removing servers

2722
02:45:19,230 --> 02:45:22,440
doing all kinds of shenanigans
hired by Debbie Wasserman

2723
02:45:22,500 --> 02:45:25,800
Schultz. And this thing has
been, you know, been covered.

2724
02:45:25,800 --> 02:45:28,920
They keep trying to cover it up
as much as they can and it just

2725
02:45:28,920 --> 02:45:30,870
keeps rearing its ugly head.

2726
02:45:31,020 --> 02:45:34,440
We now know nearly 50 Democrats
waived background checks for

2727
02:45:34,440 --> 02:45:38,490
Pakistani it aides accused of
hacking. That includes former DC

2728
02:45:38,490 --> 02:45:41,700
chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz
and inspector general's report

2729
02:45:41,700 --> 02:45:46,440
finding 44 Democrats chose not
to vet Imran Juan and several of

2730
02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:49,350
his family members by using a
loophole in the house security

2731
02:45:49,350 --> 02:45:52,350
policy. A woman who worked for
Schultz was arrested for bank

2732
02:45:52,350 --> 02:45:55,020
fraud waiting for a flight to
Pakistan last year

2733
02:45:55,080 --> 02:45:58,200
any collusion that's
unbelievable this this is

2734
02:45:58,200 --> 02:45:59,280
getting no play

2735
02:46:00,090 --> 02:46:04,530
because well, mainstream media
is not interested in in these

2736
02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:07,620
really good stories. Yeah, well,
because it doesn't involve

2737
02:46:07,620 --> 02:46:08,190
Trump.

2738
02:46:08,250 --> 02:46:11,280
You know, Fox doesn't consider
themselves mainstream media,

2739
02:46:11,550 --> 02:46:13,290
but which is a joke.

2740
02:46:14,490 --> 02:46:17,400
But the original money honey
over there and Fox Business

2741
02:46:17,400 --> 02:46:20,820
News, Maria Bartiromo, had Donna
Brazil on and asked her about

2742
02:46:20,820 --> 02:46:23,850
the Juan brothers. Let me ask
before you go you wrote the book

2743
02:46:23,850 --> 02:46:25,230
hacks. Can you

2744
02:46:25,230 --> 02:46:27,000
believe that the hacking and

2745
02:46:27,000 --> 02:46:29,760
by the way, Maria has no idea
what she's talking about? She's

2746
02:46:29,790 --> 02:46:31,200
confusing everything

2747
02:46:31,530 --> 02:46:34,680
to the DNC had anything to do
with those AWHONN brothers,

2748
02:46:34,680 --> 02:46:40,200
the IT guys who the Democrats
blew off their their background

2749
02:46:40,200 --> 02:46:42,750
checks and of course are under
investigation today.

2750
02:46:43,320 --> 02:46:47,010
Well, you know, the the house
investigation, I haven't read

2751
02:46:47,010 --> 02:46:49,590
the full report. But you know, I
believe everyone should be

2752
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:51,990
vetted. No, I don't believe
those individuals had anything

2753
02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:55,140
to do with the hacking of the
Democratic National Committee. I

2754
02:46:55,140 --> 02:46:58,080
would hope that before director
Muller finished his

2755
02:46:58,080 --> 02:47:00,660
investigation, we get to the
bottom of it. We know that there

2756
02:47:00,660 --> 02:47:03,780
was Russian interference in our
election system, I want to

2757
02:47:03,780 --> 02:47:06,210
figure out who committed this
crime and they should be brought

2758
02:47:06,210 --> 02:47:06,570
to just

2759
02:47:06,600 --> 02:47:09,810
know the Juan brothers just to
be clear as a separate story

2760
02:47:09,810 --> 02:47:12,480
from the Russia from the Russia
probe.

2761
02:47:12,840 --> 02:47:14,220
But you were there at the DNC.

2762
02:47:14,220 --> 02:47:15,510
Did you work with Mr.

2763
02:47:15,540 --> 02:47:20,340
Irwin? No, ma'am. They worked I
believe in in the House of

2764
02:47:20,340 --> 02:47:25,320
Representative. I haven't worked
on the Hill since 1999. So 2000

2765
02:47:25,320 --> 02:47:29,400
When I left, so no, I don't know
anything about that. That series

2766
02:47:29,430 --> 02:47:33,690
of what I call in many ways. It
was a it was a management

2767
02:47:33,690 --> 02:47:37,920
failure. It was bad. We should
vet everybody, not just, you

2768
02:47:37,920 --> 02:47:40,860
know, democratic staffers, every
staffer who works for the House

2769
02:47:40,860 --> 02:47:44,430
of Representative or the United
States Senate, anybody? It

2770
02:47:44,430 --> 02:47:46,680
should be better. Yeah, I mean,
you would think so don, it's

2771
02:47:46,680 --> 02:47:48,480
always a pleasure to see you.
Thanks so much,

2772
02:47:48,510 --> 02:47:52,800
so much for your Fox Business
News. vapid, empty, empty,

2773
02:47:52,800 --> 02:47:56,490
nothing news story of the
century as far as I'm concerned.

2774
02:47:56,820 --> 02:48:02,160
It's a great story. It could be
isI it could be all kinds of spy

2775
02:48:02,160 --> 02:48:09,810
stuff go completely overlooked.
All right. Anything we need to

2776
02:48:09,810 --> 02:48:12,450
be looking at for for this
evening's entertainment?

2777
02:48:13,920 --> 02:48:17,310
I don't think so. Thanks. So we
then went on to NCAA Tournaments

2778
02:48:17,310 --> 02:48:21,000
over the basketball season is
wrapping up. You got

2779
02:48:22,050 --> 02:48:24,240
you got anyone coming over for
your birthday to sit in a

2780
02:48:24,240 --> 02:48:24,720
circle.

2781
02:48:26,010 --> 02:48:28,320
And we get the chairs you're
gonna put the circle there and

2782
02:48:28,320 --> 02:48:30,510
they're gonna sit there and
drink coffee and stare at each

2783
02:48:30,510 --> 02:48:30,840
other.

2784
02:48:31,290 --> 02:48:36,090
Great. I can't wait to see how
thi adorable does in the circle.

2785
02:48:36,930 --> 02:48:38,430
Get him in young John teaching

2786
02:48:38,970 --> 02:48:40,920
likes at teaching young

2787
02:48:42,360 --> 02:48:46,590
and we'll be back on Sunday with
another deconstruction of your

2788
02:48:46,590 --> 02:48:49,440
media here on the no agenda
show. Remember us at the

2789
02:48:49,440 --> 02:48:53,370
vortech.org/na and I am coming
to you from downtown Austin,

2790
02:48:53,370 --> 02:48:56,220
Texas. This is the capital of
the drone Star State FEMA Region

2791
02:48:56,220 --> 02:48:59,550
six and all the governmental
maps in the five by nine studio

2792
02:48:59,550 --> 02:49:02,010
in the common law condo in the
morning, everybody.

2793
02:49:02,400 --> 02:49:05,370
I'm Adam curry and from Northern
Silicon Valley where we're

2794
02:49:05,370 --> 02:49:09,300
having a storm approaching. It's
gonna be a real gully washer and

2795
02:49:09,300 --> 02:49:12,900
I believe this will just head to
head back east and give you guys

2796
02:49:12,900 --> 02:49:15,480
nothing but grief. I'm John C.
Dvorak and

2797
02:49:15,480 --> 02:49:22,500
until Sunday, as always, Happy
Birthday John and adios mofos

2798
02:49:24,960 --> 02:50:00,570
give me a cab. You So how are

2799
02:50:11,070 --> 02:50:35,310
we love no agenda going to start
because we really love the

2800
02:50:35,310 --> 02:50:37,380
phrase from the shades

2801
02:50:41,040 --> 02:51:20,040
of Florida belly inside insider
has switched to nobody's gonna

2802
02:51:20,040 --> 02:51:28,650
watch youtube today she's gonna
make them stream Feeny she

2803
02:51:28,650 --> 02:51:33,810
always says she was gonna let us
go min you can see no training

2804
02:51:33,810 --> 02:51:38,670
because there is no treaty one
reason do you need to be lucky

2805
02:51:42,060 --> 02:52:05,550
don't don't don't draw community
stole the whole side video from

2806
02:52:05,550 --> 02:52:08,670
your account has been disabled
for violation of the YouTube

2807
02:52:08,670 --> 02:52:12,450
community guidelines. Thank you
and have a nice day. Oh well

2808
02:52:12,960 --> 02:52:37,290
guess it better go and ask for a
manual review MOPO boruch.org/n

2809
02:52:37,380 --> 02:52:37,740
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