Adam Curry: Moe facts with Adam curry for April 5 2023 Episode
number 91. Hey, did you miss? We're back with another
manufacturer of Adam curry. That's right month of April
2023. I'm Adam curry coming to you. From the heart of the Texas
Hill Country time once again to spin the Wheel of topics from
here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on
the other end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo facts.
Moe Factz: Hydro Adam,
Adam Curry: a good mo How about yourself?
Moe Factz: I'm doing well. Doing well.
Adam Curry: I'm so happy to hear that now. It's it's been a man.
Let me see the last time we did a show was I think February. I'm
not mistaken, middle of February. And a lot of people
missing us missing the regular shows. And Moe and I have been
talking and kind of came to a conclusion that there was some
big changes in your life. Moe. We started this show how many
years ago? Is it been now? It's been for almost four years.
Moe Factz: I think we're heading into the fourth year. Fourth
year. No, no, no, no, we're headed toward the fourth year to
the fourth. Yeah, exactly.
Adam Curry: It's good. I remember because we first
started talking when I was on my honeymoon. Right, which I
remember. Remember that may 9, may 19 2019. And it was yeah, it
was a violent man was maybe a couple of weeks after that after
we were talking back and forth. And we decided, hey, let's do
this show. Of course, things were very, very different than
you had. You had a corporate job you were kind of set the way you
wanted your life to be the way that you expected it and then
boom, not only did COVID hit, and they came out with the backs
mandate, and that really changed everything, didn't it?
Moe Factz: That took my life into a whole nother trajectory
that I didn't expect, and has caused some time tension. Other
anything else? Because when I do this show, I'm dedicated 100% to
making the highest quality product possible. And if I can't
do that, then I guess we might need to make some changes. So as
it looks right now, we're going to be bringing the show to end.
But not right now. We're going into the final season, I guess
that's how I look at it, we got I want to get to the 100 number.
Because I think that's that's significant to me, as far as
accomplishment. As you know, I know, who knew I was gonna be a
podcaster. First of all,
Adam Curry: also, you were forced into being an
entrepreneur, I mean, you have, you had to set up a whole
different business just to really keep some consistency
going and your family fed.
Moe Factz: That's correct. And what people don't understand
what the whole vac situation and why we talked about it so
intensely on several episodes is, it wasn't that I was losing
one job, and you go to another job, for what field I am in,
there's kind of like a bureau were blackballed for lack of a
better word, if you're not vexed. And so I had to, like I
said, Go out on my own be an entrepreneur. And that's
consuming far more time than I thought it would. But that's my
foundation of wealth. And as I told you, when we first
discussed this, I'm torn between two families, my natural born
family or you know, my actual birth family, and affects
family. And this wasn't an easy decision. But I'm not going to
look at it as a negative, I think we had 10 episodes to go,
and we're gonna make a party out of it. That's the only way we
can do it, and only fashion, and I have some episodes I've been
dying to get to.
Adam Curry: And also, I want people to know that, you know,
it'll probably take me so the reason for the time in between
episodes is literally because Moe has to do so much work. Ben,
it was different when you had the corporate job was easier for
you to find time to do that.
Moe Factz: Allow me to explain the mechanics of that across the
four years of us doing this show. When we first started, I
was an individual contributor at my job. And I could consume a
lot of content podcast, as you know, people consumed a level of
content is being consumed. I could consume that while running
my investigations and experiments. And I could make
notes of timestamps as I was doing it. And then there was a
change when I went into management, where you're more in
meetings, that's not that free airtime that I used to have. And
that's when the show became a little bit more sporadic because
I'm at the wheel of my family, my job, you know, Sam and myself
squeezed in there and to end the show, and then it went from
there. And then now I'm working for myself and it's even less
time to actually digest the information. I want to let
people know that, for instance, this show Listen to 90 pieces of
information, some range and up to two hours. I don't do any
1.5x, as you pointed out, it's unhealthy. And I've never done
it not good. It's very unhealthy. So I actually consume
it. And then then you go on to the clipping process. And then
the ranging and I'm very critical, I must tell myself
when I'm doing this, because like I said, I'm a professional
at doing this. I didn't start off that way. I mean, because
this is my first first foray into podcasting. But what a hell
of a way to do it with the guy who created I'm trying to tell
you, that's, that's a movie. We're gonna make a movie out of
this once it's all said and done, because who How does that
work? You know, how does that even work?
Adam Curry: And also, we, you know, we you never know what the
future will bring. And of course, we become friends, we
become brothers throughout this process, and you will always be
in fact, it was, the hardest part is because the show has to
be fresh and us not really communicating beforehand, that's
always been my rule. And that work? Well, you even would not
listen to no agenda, which is how we how you found me in the
first place. And so we really couldn't even talk that much in
between shows this because we didn't want to ruin too much of
the show. And it just kept getting wider and wider. And,
and, you know, you came to me and said, hey, you know, this is
just what's going on. And I think it's the right decisions.
Definitely the right decision for the show of suffering. No,
no doubt for your family, and you got four kids. And when I
heard that you were falling asleep on the couch at night
with your shoes on this is it but you know, we've we're gonna
round it out, we got to including this 110 More episodes
to go. So they will be spread out still, we'll be able to
probably schedule them a little bit better now that we have less
stress of trying to get stuff done. And you never know what
the future will bring. You never know. So
Moe Factz: you never know. You never know. And, and of
Adam Curry: course, we're still valued for value. And we
appreciate all the value people have given to the show, which
has certainly helped income it certainly helped during the
transition. But you becoming an entrepreneur, and we appreciate
all of that. And we're you know, it I agree it's been to take
this to 100 is going to be a it's also timeless, right? It's
a it's a beautiful document, that that people will be able to
listen to far into the future. And and who knows what, what the
next chapter will bring.
Moe Factz: And that's the whole point of before we get to the
wheel is that I want to make a product that you can start from
one. And if you find it five years from now, if you're that
one that found it five years from now, is still relevant. I
try to unpack the history behind things. We hear a lot of surface
talk, especially on the topic of race. We're not erased
exclusively on this podcast. But that's what brought us to the
table right what Malcolm said exactly. And I think for years,
we've been having a four year conversation where we didn't
start off where we were friends today let's do a podcast. We
have become integrated each other lives off of this
conversation and and then what we take away from it back into
our everyday lives. So hopefully we provide that value to other
people that they can open up and have a conversation with someone
or at least have a better understanding about it. So like
I said, this next, I'm trying to tell you these next 10 We're not
going out on a date. I hated that. I brought it up I told you
that before the wire my favorite television show went one season
too long Game of Thrones, but one season too long. You are one
thing about you always leave them wanting more. And in
sports. You don't want to be the old Kobe. You see I'm saying
like it this is not a retirement. I'm just saying the
retirement of this conversation is gone. Nobody did what we did
and nobody will ever be able to do what we did. I'm certainly
that
Adam Curry: I'm very proud of the work we've done so far. And
I can't wait to get all the way to one double. Oh man. Very
exciting. What do you say? Syndication? Syndication we spin
the wheel Malinche here we're gonna do today there is the
wheel of topics run around it goes where it stops nobody knows
course no facts does because he set it all up for us once again.
A dynamite show the topic from olfaction Adam curry episode 91
Unknown: is it's okay to be white.
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, this is a show for me. It's okay to be
white. Nice.
Moe Factz: Okay, Adam. We're not we're not sure with the whole
Rasmus poem. And and Mr. Scott Adams data interpretation. Yes.
We had to talk about this. Scott Adam was right. And Scott Allen
was wrong. So we're gonna have to fit by The end of the show,
we'll figure out which is which homeless and what he was.
Adam Curry: Do you realize how happy Scott Adams will be to
know that a whole show was done about this particular chapter in
his life?
Moe Factz: I hope he hears Oh, believe he will
Adam Curry: believe me. The love hate relationship with with
Scott. I mean, I'm a fan. But what he did personally, I
understood, I think I understood exactly what he did. I got it,
you know, I need to kind of know his situation. I don't know if
it's, if it's unpacking exactly the way he expected. But he's in
a position I think, to where he can, you'll ride the wave,
whichever ways it goes. And then of course, I'm really excited to
hear what you have to say about and
Moe Factz: the thing about it is I don't know how you this is
this is the essence of this show. I don't know what your
tapes were there. I stopped listening. Whenever there's
something I'm going to work on. I think it's going to be on the
no agenda show. I stopped listening. Yeah. So I don't know
what your take is. And you don't know what my take is. But we're
gonna walk through this. We're gonna walk through some, some
some history, as we always do, and why maybe his statement was
taken that way. So let's just hop right in and newspaper drops
Dilbert
Unknown: We turn now to the fallout from the racist rant by
the creator of one of the nation's top comic strips.
Newspapers across the country are dropping Dilbert and
Stephanie Ramos is here with more. Good morning, Stephanie.
Hi there. Rebecca. This isn't the first time Dilbert comic
strip creator Scott Adams has made some controversial
comments, but he is now experiencing possibly the
biggest repercussion of his comments about race. This
morning, another newspaper is dropping the popular comic strip
Dilbert after its creator was accused of going on a racist
rant.
Dilbert is being canceled all over the country.
The Star Tribune in Minneapolis is joined to the Los Angeles
Times, Washington Post and USA Today, no longer printing the
cartoon poking fun at office culture. After creator Scott
Adams revealed his interpretation of a poll from
recipes and reports.
If you nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people,
according to this poll, not according to me. According to
this poll, that's a hate group. That's a hate group. And I don't
want to have anything to do with them. And I would say, you know,
based on the current way things are going, the best advice I
would give to white people is to get the hell away from black
people. Adam says
he was only advising people to avoid hate and claims his quotes
were taken out of context.
Adam Curry: So first of all, not a single person reached out to
me and said, Hey, man, you haven't done a show with Moe. Is
that because you're taking Scott Adams advice? No one thought
that no one thought that just
Moe Factz: because we have an intelligent US producers. So I
was shooting him. I said, that's what it is. He's taken Scott
advice. So I had to be honest, the thing I was triggered about
is the hate. Right, you let a minority of a poll. And I think
it was really 13 Black people asked if my numbers are correct,
somewhere around there, less than 20. That's more
Adam Curry: than enough. That's just fine. And you let a
minority
Moe Factz: we're saying hey, they're a hate group, especially
with what that term means. Now, we're not we're in a whole
different world. When you start labeling people like that,
that's all that's a hate group or that this and that. And then
audacity thing, he could just join the black race, we didn't
draft you in the race draft. can't join, you have to be
drafted.
Adam Curry: So here's here's how I took that one when I first
heard it, and I'm going put it differently. In general, I like
Scott Adams, what and I don't know really know him that well.
But the only thing that I've never liked is the constant
playing around because you know that everything he does, he's
thought about, he thought about how he's going to do it. He's
thought about, you know, what he's going to accentuate or
exaggerate. And it's all it's all to mess with people's heads
to get a response to get a reaction. And I got tired of it.
Like, I don't really know, when he's doing stuff, if it's the
real Scott Adams, because that actually is Scott Adams. He's
always noodling in people's heads to get some reaction to do
something with it. And I personally as a human being, I
got tired of it.
Moe Factz: It is tiring. And that's to be honest with you.
The only thing you're going to hear from Scott Adams, other
than two clips, is that is the mean, because what we're going
to do here is examine him he became a mean, yo, yeah, he
became a viral sensation. This is what he wanted, but he
doesn't understand and it wasn't black people were really upset
because I'm gonna be honest with you. A lot of black people don't
know who Scott Adams is. Now we know Dilbert. You know, we've
seen him in the newspaper we've seen And I'm on the what staples
ads or whatever OfficeMax whatever as it was, I mean he
was doing big promotions with what we don't know Scott Adams
as a person. I was a little perturbed as a person witness
that the vaccine his life, the way he the way he handled that.
That's kind of how he came across my radar is more his take
on the VAX. And I think this was a distraction from that. Oh,
interesting because he took so many ELLs he was getting he was
getting mean to death off of his takes on Novak. So it's like,
oh, let me stick my finger you know, and this socket to you
know, a you're going to have a built in fan base. Let's be
honest. Racism has a built in fan base. As soon as you say
something that can be taken as racist. You have a built in fan
base. Yeah, automatically and they assaulted him to like God
level when he said this. Yeah. Finally Scott Scott's telling
the truth. Yeah. Which, as you know, me, Adam, um, what hurt?
Weren't percent against force integration? Yes. More
understanding. If you don't want to be around me, I don't want to
be around you. That's perfect. I talked about this several times
on the show. Like I said, The only issue I had with was the
was the hate part. Because we know it be bi it was bi No,
black identity, history and bi that that can be taken in a
whole nother way. And like I say, it'd be mean and shocking
to be used for that. But I said enough
Adam Curry: about that. But that's exactly the point that
and that's that's the exception of all he had with what he's
done. He puts the hate the word hate in there on purpose to
trigger that's that's why he did that purposefully.
Moe Factz: Correct. Which, I'm gonna shoot him some bail and
bail him out. Sorry about that. It's a it's just one thing. I
gotta give him the same benefit of doubt I gave Kanye Sure.
Because he did the exact same thing I did is I have enough
money where I could pretty much say anything. And it really does
affect my day to day life. But oh, he was wrong.
Adam Curry: Well, that's interesting. Because when DeVore
I brought it up on no agenda. I said, I'm Scott, one full Kanye
and to Warwick was laughing because he got it. He said, Oh,
yeah, that's exactly exactly what it is. He went full Kanye.
But I think he, he did it in a smarter way. I think he, when I
saw him, and I knew it wasn't true. When I saw him go on Hotep
and said, this is the this I did it all for this. I just want to
have this one interview with you with Hotep. I'm like, Okay.
Well, we'll see was kinda true. I think he did some other stuff.
But I thought that was a good wrap up. I thought it was a fun
way for him to bring this thing to fruition.
Moe Factz: Right. Which, as for my take on it, I can't tell if
that was a damage control, or if it was pre planned. Same way
with Kanye, you don't know. Reacting to the the blowback and
he's AKA, spin it this way. Now.
Adam Curry: I think he was looking for the seminal black
man to have a conversation with should have been you honestly.
He was looking. Because Hotep gets stuck on certain topics,
which I think made and go beyond what Scott Adams understands
about black Americans. And I'm certainly the I mean, does he
really understand the Hotep culture? I don't understand it
fully. So that's right. That's taking it to another degree. But
I think he was waiting for maybe he would have wanted more of a
Jason Whitlock I think that probably would have been what he
wanted. Just my guess that would have been more appropriate for
him to roll out what he was really saying, but it worked
well enough. And it wasn't too long was good. I enjoyed the I
enjoyed that episode. He didn't like okay, I got you. And yeah,
it was and the only thing I then took into account is like, I I
don't think I think it's a shame that he believes locals is the
way to go. I mean, he's not doing it for the money. I would
have preferred to have seen Dilbert value for value. That's
all that that'd be my only thing. Wow, that there was a
better way to do that. But okay.
Moe Factz: Alright, so let's go on and get to the second part of
GMA clip,
Unknown: Adam says he was only advising people to avoid hate
and claims his quotes were taken out of context.
That is things that I went on live stream and said, stay away
from black people, every one of them. There's no exceptions,
whatever you do, just ask yourself do it wasn't really
thinking behind it. Yeah, what was maybe a why to that that you
haven't heard yet? If you heard it in context, what do you
disagree with it? And the answer is, I haven't seen anybody
disagree.
For three decades, Adams produced his comic strip Dilbert
which satirizes office culture Dilbert appeared in 2000
newspapers in 65 countries and 25 languages, guys. All right,
Stephanie.
Adam Curry: Thank you, God. Thank you, Stephanie. Good
report.
Moe Factz: Thanks. So I don't buy that. There's no way you can
take what he said out of context. Now you can say I was
trolling to get attention, you know, to bring, you know,
attention. I might be willing to say, Okay, that's a possibility.
But what he's saying verbatim, and I've got it in the show a
few times to remind us what he said, because that's why I'm a
little skeptical. Because it's like, come on, like, how can you
say black people becoming a hate group? And take that out of
context? Like, if you're saying I did this as a social
experiment, maybe, but this could be taken out of context
and then say, what was the other one just get the hat stay the
hell away from them. That kind of thing? Where How can you take
that out of context and be honest with you how many black
neighbors do Scott out of really have riches a year? I mean,
that's that's the thing is like, he just woke up one day as I'm
leaving Harlem, you will say
like, come on, Scott. I mean, but it's two things. One, that
it's okay to be white, we're gonna examine that it's a meme
in itself, and then to the climate. I don't know if you're
aware or not, because we know we have different Twitter
timelines. And my timeline is kind of weird in itself. It
there's a lot of videos showing black people attacking white
people. Have you seen this? Is it showing up on your timeline?
Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Particularly on like the subway. I've seen a lot
of those videos.
Moe Factz: Ooh, buses, the kid. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
Adam Curry: that one? The kids? Yes, I did see that. Yeah. And
you know, I'm intelligent enough to know, is one video. But I can
also see show you Sixth Street of Boston, where it's
everybody's beaten up on everybody, you know, it was
like, doesn't matter what color you are. So that's awesome rock,
we're also in just a very violent, upsetting time for
people. So those people just pissed off.
Moe Factz: And it's no context is no timestamp. No, because
feral people that when you remove these from the internet,
you know, I'm not with it, you know, it's free speech, put it
out there. And now the victims want to, you know, take legal
action, that's another thing, because you should be able to
protect your identity from being you know, to create it as a
viral video and be you know, have that follow you for the
rest of your life. But these these videos can be 10 years
old, who knows, but this is the this is the climate he chose to
leap out in headfirst first, and say, Okay, stay away from black
people, because they're their hate group. And it's a lot of
people that see these videos like, Yeah, but what I find
interesting is, is the same people that can say, How can
black people look at 15 second clip of a cop shooting, you
know, and not know, get a you know, a certain, you know, how
can they look at it and not know the context and get upset over
the the saying people are getting upset over 15 seconds
violent at, you know, clip, and they're getting upset over which
we all know, all this is fails. And
Adam Curry: yes, exactly, thank you, you exist spells because
what you would no one can take into account is what the algo is
doing. And you know, I've studied this a lot. And
algorithms certainly on Twitter, are divisive. They are meant
just the American media model is, if you're, if you're
anything here, the opposite will be brought in to your timeline.
That's just so and it'll be the opposite of what you like.
That's how the general American media model algorithm works.
It's what the television does is what politicians do. The only
one funny enough, that doesn't do just tick tock, and they
figured, but they got their own problems. But they like Bo,
you're all black over here, you're all white over here,
you're right over here, your left over here, your blue, your
red, etc. So what we don't know is I have as you prefaced, I
don't have your timeline. And you don't have my timeline. And
then there's no way to ever know exactly what it is. But what
you're saying is correct, is different. And it's, it's
intended to be triggering. And none of its real is to spell.
Moe Factz: Right, and it's working very well. And another
media adage that that was very popular is if it bleeds, it
leads, I'm sure that is that's factored into the algo as well.
And one more just to add some context and when he said the
statement, right when he said this statement was the video of
the legit kid, I mean, the kid allegedly attacking his teacher
over a Nintendo Switch, right. That was simultaneously being
said, I mean, happening when this is being said, I'm sure he
did not know. Right, so he stepped right in it. Just like I
don't know, if Kanye knew that the ADL was having their, their
annual meeting, when you said what he said, you know, or DD. I
mean, these people are very intelligent. So who knows, but
I'm just wanting to give context to how it was received. But for
the most part, I didn't hear black people's being, oh, that
Scott Adams, you know, that was the Boulais, the media class,
the intellectuals.
Adam Curry: I also don't think, really upset he did not intend
to communicate with black people. He was communicating
with white people. Right, no one else and when he went on Hotep,
he knows Hotep. God, white people watching. So I correct
and I don't think he would even attempt to communicate with
black Americans. Honestly, I think he's smart enough to know,
I really don't know.
Moe Factz: He said he was in the family doesn't mean so it's
like, yeah, you're leaving a little bit of adversity. He just
bailed on us. Okay, got it goes. So I have a local report. And
this is from this is what I witnessed on my local news. And
I wanted to play this because we know once it goes local, this is
like, Whoa, it was trending on youtube or twitter or Tik Tok,
or wherever. Let's get it into local news and get it out to the
masses. And this actual segment is called trending. But this is
Wu wsa. Nine and DC
Unknown: trending this morning, fans of the comic strip at
zilver will have to find their laughs elsewhere. Global Media
Company Andrews McMeel. Universal has cut ties with the
cartoonists behind the comic strip, Scott Adams following his
recent social media commentary on race relations, in air quotes
in America.
Yeah, Adams was responding to a poll asking black Americans if
they agreed with the statement, it's okay to be white. The poll
said just over half of the respondents agreed with the
statement, Adams decided that made black people a hate group
and said this.
And I don't want to have anything to do with them. And I
would say, you know, based on the current way things are
going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get
the hell away from black people.
Adams failed to acknowledge the phrase it's okay to be white was
popularized by white nationalists online and is often
used to troll people, newspapers across the US, including the
Washington Post have dropped Dilbert. In response to these
comments, Adam said on Twitter that he was only quote, advising
people to avoid hate and suggested free speech and
America is under assault.
Adam Curry: And before before we talk about this, having been in
corporate America and corporate culture Did you read about you
look at Dilbert, did you identify with Dilbert corporate
culture? I mean, is that something that they I mean, I've
never really looked forward to the next Dilbert because I've
never really been in in corporate culture that way.
Right? Were you
Moe Factz: I was more of a courteous fan. When I was
reading comments, I mean, I haven't had a newspaper and how
long so that was another thing that we don't buy newspapers
anymore. I think he's bigger deals is probably with licensing
and you're in the books and whatever. So Well, like I said,
you aware who Dilbert is it's an icon you know that that that the
head the artist style? Yeah. You know, the head yeah. Is iconic,
but we don't really know. It just isn't it doesn't it's a bad
example to use with Scott Erica. We just it's lack of knowledge
to be upset. You know?
Adam Curry: Who Yes, exactly, I understand. Yes. Precisely.
Alright,
Moe Factz: so I think I have two more clips. Let's go ahead and
breeze through these two right quick and we'll get I just want
to get your reaction to her reaction. Like she did her
report now he comes to editorial information.
Unknown: I'm so I'm gonna let me just say this. I am so
disappointed. She black.
Moe Factz: Yes, this is I forget her name. She's an icon in local
news here in DC.
Unknown: So I'm gonna let me just say this. I am so
disappointed. And exhausted. Yes. And even with and you've
got to consider the source here. Is this are the pollsters are
they leaning one way or the other? Is this meant to divide?
Is this meant to stir up controversy? Why even have that
statement is okay to be white. Of course, it's okay to be
white. It's okay to be black. It's okay. You know, and so the
question itself is, for me it just a question meant to troll
and this person fell for it. And to think that that's really what
I have to say about. It upset me so much as a black person to
really believe that that is what was gleaned from a poll that in
my MBM was meant to divide in the first place.
Adam Curry: Okay, interesting. So I think she's right that that
Scott Adams is doing this because he thought the poll was
bullcrap. You know that he's like, what is it? What is going
on with these polls? I'm pretty sure he thought that right. For
her, though. You know, it's not to does she really know not know
what I mean? This is the first time I've heard a news person
questioned a poll. Typically, it's always Orange Man bad.
Yeah, we all know that. Oh, yeah. white nationalists on the
rise. But now when it comes down to this, and I think that that
was kind of that, that gives me a little pause here that Scott
Adams at least got through because she was like, well, this
poll must be just a triggering thing. And and of course, she
thinks he's dumb that he fell for it. That I think is rather
humorous. And
Moe Factz: he fall for the pole busy dumb because he fell for
the pole or the dumb because he he's a dumb white guy lacked
awareness that it's okay to be white is a is a trolling
question.
Adam Curry: either. That's the point. He's intelligent. He
didn't follow it didn't know. He was using it. He was using it
and that she didn't see because she doesn't know Scott. She
thinks the Dilbert guy.
Moe Factz: Not only that, I think her ratio reaction is
performative. You know, I'm exhausted. I can't really go
home and his fall on the couch. It's like, oh, racism. Is so
draining. Anything you do we appear or have to appear?
Adam Curry: That's that's a good point, though. I mean, because
you can hear her co hosts. I don't know if her co host is
white or black. Just like to
Moe Factz: know is the black, maybe. LGBT member? We're gonna
hear a little bit later, but
Adam Curry: But yeah, I agree. I mean, I've known you for a
little bit here. I don't think you go home at home. Honey was
so much racism today. I mean, yeah, you.
Exactly. So, performative is a good way of looking at it. I
agree.
Moe Factz: And it's expected and this goes to show you, like, I'm
sure not, I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna put this on her. But
say, your white coworkers hear this. And you come into office,
right? This has become office culture for a minute, is like
just kind of standing around your desk like, oh, waiting to
hear your reaction, like psyched to hear about the Scott Evans
thing.
Adam Curry: I wonder. That's a good, you know, I wouldn't put
it pass some people in today's climate. Oh, man. Did you hear
about Sharon me? Man, I hope Did she hear about Scott, have you
talked to her about it? Yeah.
Moe Factz: Right. Right. To where
Adam Curry: we are aware of what's going
Moe Factz: on, put it in a group text, you know, put it on Slack.
So
Unknown: exactly.
Moe Factz: That's the thing that was this is why this
conversation important because we don't do this performative.
Oh, oh, hi. Could you say that? Oh, I'm supposed to be hurt my
post be butthurt right now. So let me know St get to act. And
no, I don't ask me. Is it okay to be white? Go ahead. Ask me.
Adam Curry: Is it okay to be white?
Moe Factz: I don't know. I never been white. No, I'm saying so if
I answer that question, I'm saying this. I'm being flippant,
but at the same time, if I answered that poll that way,
now, I'm in a hate group. Because I don't know what was
that mean? Most people to dodge that question. Look, I don't
know what that means. You know, what is it? What are you saying?
Like, is it okay, like being like, I wouldn't know, I never
had the experience, or is it okay to me if you're white?
Which I don't I don't care. You know, I'm saying like to be
honest with you know, this is it was
Adam Curry: a, it was a stupid poll on the whole, the whole
idea of it is just lame.
Moe Factz: Alright, so dealer choice, you can jump in three C,
or you can go jump to force your choice. Now
Adam Curry: let's do three C, as this is more local, more local.
More local stuff, please.
Unknown: Yeah, it's It's remarkable. This, someone as
smart as him with some low hanging fruit in that manner.
Right. It's even more disturbing that he wants to really think
he's racist. I think those comments on the back end about
white people need to stay away from black people, because
certainly that's not true, either. I think what you have is
kind of the series of unfortunate events that have
taken place. But really, if someone's kind of making these
comments, their lies and truth internally within themselves,
that they believe things that they're saying
he also he I think he also said that he's, you know, he spent a
lot of time helping black people. So we did not need your
help in that way. And whatever you're serving now, hope you
have a lot of time to sit down and really think about it, but I
also think that When sure sort of canceled, you know, people
would that word, you know, do you do you think about it and
say, You know what, what I said was really short sighted and
ignorant? Or do you get more sort of, you know, do you double
down on how you feel, because now you feel isolated and
empowered, because, you know, other people feel the same.
Listen,
the redemption tour will give it about three months, okay? And
then the redemption tour will start and then he'll start
meeting with all of the leaders that he thinks are important in
that community. Right to try to get back into his good graces.
I didn't like Dilbert anyway. All right.
Adam Curry: So something just dawned on me, the most
interesting thing that came out of all this, that I remember,
I'm not sure if he said it on his own thing, or if it was on
Hotep Hotep that he had. And he had never mentioned this as far
as now that he had really reached out to Black Lives
Matter. And he had said, Hey, I really want to do something want
to help you and that he had come to the conclusion that was a
huge scam. That that was really interesting. Because they don't
feel heard that
Moe Factz: was the heads up, Scott. Yeah, right. Was the
cartoon that a lot of time a lot of money. With information. Good
Adam Curry: point. Good point.
Moe Factz: Which we had to remember Scott Adams is our was
I don't know what his political affiliation now is. It was a
liberal. Yes. By his own by his own admission? Yes. So it was
like, Oh, now I can go join the blacks. That's the that's the
weakest thing I can do is go join not not support the blacks.
No, no, no, no, no. I want to embed with them. And it says
their culture is my own. It's just that that it's it's like
it's a jacket you can wear, you know, just like just to put it
on like, Oh, let me see. Let me get a 30 day test trial if I
don't like it on day 29. O box. And Cindy, right back, you know,
Adam Curry: Rent the Runway.
Moe Factz: Right? So that's the thing, but with these people,
let me be honest with you. As always, the blue light class,
yeah, is scared if Black Black Pete white people don't want to
be around them. They're like, No, no, no, don't say that.
Scott, you know, what, if White people actually get away from
us? What will we do? You know, because a lot of their lives is
Adam Curry: I don't even know what he I'm sure he's hearing
this. I know if he knows what the Boulais is.
Moe Factz: The ones I'll say, I'll make it easy for Scott
Adams. any black person, you know, personally? Probably I
can't say is it's probably Boulais. Because the bank say
what? It's this performative thing that the Boulais have to
do that they have to be extra upset. And like said their whole
existence is certified by whiteness. Look, at my degree on
my wall, they're saying look at the neighborhood I live in
looking at, you know, look at my friends and looking this kind of
thing. So this, they can actually be triggered by this.
Because it can is not necessary that white people are going to
have white flight, you know, which most of these people
talking live in white neighborhoods. Let's just be
honest, and predominantly white. Oh, sure. Um, right. So this is
not like they're going to leave your neighborhood. What's going
to happen is, as you get you're invited to brands wedding must
be lost in the mail. That's how you get away from black people.
Because it's a lot of white people. I'm alleging I'm
assuming. I'm assuming that feel obligated like, Oh, we got a
white the only black person to office to our wedding, you know,
say because it'll be off we don't. So that's how this thing
materializing manifests itself is that they don't they don't
get millas antivirus anymore, you know? Right, right. Right.
Yeah. So that's my take on it. But I give it to Scott Adams.
He's amassed enough money, where he can say what he wants to say.
And I have this black clip from several years ago. DJ Vlad, more
specific. And he's talking about fu money.
Unknown: What is fucking money according to Scott Adams?
Well, this this concept comes from the regular workplace you
know, from I think finance people came up with it first.
And the idea is that once you have enough money that you don't
need a boss, nobody can tell you what to do. You know, the public
can't stop buying your product and her you because you have
enough money already. Your boss can fire you because you don't
need him. So you're not really free. Until you can say fuck you
to all your customers and your boss. Okay? Now, I don't say
that to my customers because I you know, I'm just appreciative
every day that they care about anything I do. But I can. I can.
And if anybody follows me on Twitter, they know I do on a
regular basis about 25 times a day. There's some You're just,
you're just deserves to be given that treatment.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I disagree a little bit because I don't think
it's an amount of money. I think it's also a mindset. Now, I
think I have fu money I tell people to eff off, if necessary.
But that's not because I have enough is because I have enough
diversified income. I can person to go away, I don't need you.
I've send money back to people. I can't believe I don't need and
believe that. Oh, what's your pay pal? Man, I'm gonna send it
right back to you right now. I have
Moe Factz: this sounds like something I would do. Of course,
because Go ahead. And the thing is, is we all aspire to have fu
money. And it's not millions of dollars. See, this is the thing,
it's in our game. This, this is where it's kind of takes a long
time to show because I had to think about the clips was I
think about I mean, once I clip it. And to be honest, this is
the problem with the middle class, according according to
the elite, once you get your mortgage paid for and you have a
pension, knows that, hey, your car is paid for and I don't
really you know, need to interact with outside society
anymore. That's also a few months. That's fu money. That's
what scares them about the middle class. Because once you
achieve that, and that's why I'm aspiring to be so I can be an
old GRUMPY MAN. yells at the kids get all my kids get all my
law, you know, saying that kind of thing or that uncle that has
no filter. That's what we secretly secretly we all do
aspire to have that in one way or another. I'll be a hater. If
I said, you know, Scott Adams shouldn't exercise who's right?
When you exercise it right? You You're, you have to be critique,
if you know if there's some pushback as necessary. But it's
a
Adam Curry: good point. Because it has indeed become this
concept. Oh, if you mind that means you got so much. By the
way, that all depends on how much you spent spend. I mean,
I've had more than fu money, I spent it all. And it was great.
I had a good time doing it. But yeah, you're right. If if your
mortgage is paid off, you've been you own your car, and you
have some set of money that will pay for your taxes, your
property taxes and, and your inflation doesn't go too high,
which of course is what's happening or the government
doesn't steal your pension. Or your retirement. Yeah. I think a
lot of people I think that's almost uniquely American to be
like that. It's like I got a got the nice clothes that I want. I
can I can wear I could wear the same, you know, sailing outfit
every day if I want. And just right and I can afford a
reasonably priced drink and I can have friends over. That's
kind of that yep, I would say the middle class, or at least
what I grew up with the middle class American Dreams ahead.
He's retired. Oh, cool, man, congratulations. I'm doing my
thing. I can play some golf. That's fu money. Now that is
part harder to obtain now for a number of reasons. But yeah,
it's not the amount. It's, it's how you got yourself set up.
Moe Factz: And the paradox is harder to obtain now, but more
people have the fu mentality. This is why people are not
working. Yes, it was a lie. It's I'm making it somehow. I don't
know. You know, today, I have shelter over my head. I'm not
going to work in that job. And you're saying to be told no. for
X amount of dollars? No. I'll just f you know, I'll just float
alone life. Yeah, you're right. That's the crazy thing like that
actual people that can say it is shrinking. But the attitude is
spreading like a virus. Good point.
Adam Curry: And, and it's, I hear more and more like, work
doesn't define me. Okay, um, then you should be a barista. Go
ahead or whatever, whatever it is. You write, you write, and
there's more like, what is the term not quiet quitting, but
like minimal work Monday and that kind of stuff?
Moe Factz: Right, the Great Recession, all of that was, I
was given an offer that I had to refuse. In a way I had to say,
fu because
Adam Curry: you actually said fu you said fu without that net?
You said no. I'm an American man. I'm not gonna be controlled
by you.
Moe Factz: It's too many opportunities out here. That's
the thing about it and you have if you have belief in yourself,
and not only just go back to last show, security comes within
sounds like okay, I'll secure myself. So this is where we're
at. And that's why I thought the show to be fascinating because
it's a crossroads of a lot of different topics, but let's go
ahead and get to a clip number five,
Unknown: but you didn't necessarily have a boss for a
long time, though. I mean, you were I mean,
you worked with this company, but you're creating your own
product and the product is rolling along. Yeah, I use boss
loosely to mean anybody who can control your fate. But yeah,
whether it's your specific boss or just people control you
right now, when you when you talk about fucking money are you
really talking about I no longer have to work for the rest of my
life and I can still maintain the kind of lifestyle that I
want? Yeah, I
mean, it's sort of a loose, loosely defined thing that's
going to be different for everybody. But everybody has in
their mind, if I made this much money would never work again.
Yeah, until you get used to a certain kind of lifestyle, you
realize that's not going to work. So
I made that much money and it's free. I'll never I'll never need
more money or anything. I'm at four times that now. Still don't
feel any closer to quitting. Because the work has its own
benefits and like you said, you reach a certain lifestyle and
you're helping a number of people around you, which is more
rewarding, actually. Then I'm not very materialistic beyond my
house.
Adam Curry: Which is pretty, pretty big.
Moe Factz: Yeah, it's clear he shows us indoor tennis court.
Indoor. Scott gonna be all right. I mean, let's let's not
work, by the way. All right. I
Adam Curry: think he has that I'm kind of jealous of his own.
His floors are heated. Oh, nice. Yeah, I had that an Amsterdam
one heated marble, but not everywhere. Not the whole house.
His whole house has heated floors is nice. That is nice.
Moe Factz: That's that's really nice. I will have a bowling
alley though. Instead of Yeah, that would be something I have.
But if you want to have fu money, I'm Alicia in a little
tip. Control your debt? Yeah, a lot of us can say Fu. Because
you have to car payment not to just I'm just saying that you
have so many obligations, that you have to stay in a situation
even though you know it's not best for you. And we saw this
with me to all these other things. You get to a certain
level somebody gives you an offer that you should refuse but
you can't because so much is tied to your identity as a as
your your occupation as your identity. So um, yes, I'll wrap
that up. Let's go ahead and get to talking about some
disinformation misinformation in Mt information. Now there
Unknown: are three different types of content as identified
by first draft that is an organization fighting to bring
you truth on what you read and watch disinformation,
misinformation and Mal information. Collectively, these
three groups are known as information disorder, let's
start with the first disinformation is intentionally
false. It's designed to cause harm, that's often backed by
motivations to make money to have political influence or
cause trouble just for the sake of it. The second misinformation
that's also false content, but the person sharing it doesn't
realize it's false or misleading. This is driven by
socio psychological factors. These people want to feel
connected to their tribe, whether that's the same
political party activists for climate change or those that
belong to a certain religion, race or ethnic group. Finally,
Mal information this is genuine information shared with the
intent to cause harm. An example is when Russian hackers hack the
Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaigns
and emails, they leak certain details just to damage
reputations.
Adam Curry: I love I love that. That's actually misinformation
in itself, because of course, we know it wasn't. It was an inside
job. It wasn't the Russians. That was hilarious.
Moe Factz: So mount information. Yeah. I think this is okay to be
white mean, is mouth information because of the definition is
genuine information share with the intent to cause harm? Yeah.
Who would everybody would well according to the poll 80% of the
people or whatever said it's okay to be white. That you know,
that's the thing. Now my question to you the reason why I
play this clip from the show ad is that what do you think? If
you had to classify Scott's Adam Scott Scott's actions? Which one
do you think it would be because I'm not sure just yet and as
we've discussed here, we don't know what his intent was. But if
you've had Which one did you file this under?
Adam Curry: Well, I can only find it file it under
manipulation Yes, I mean, that's what he does. He's manipulating
it for he knows. I mean, okay, let me see if I can classify it.
Now. Let
Moe Factz: me go okay. Okay, let me I gotta go through him right
quick is this information is you know, is wrong. You know, it's
not you know, what's wrong, and you share why right. Me
Information is you are unaware that it's wrong. And you share
it right? And the amount of information is true. You know,
I'm gonna give you a sample mount information from my
standpoint, and this goes into this story. The fifth that 1550
thing, right, you know, 50 50% of murders is caused by
1530 1530 It's gonna be 5013. That's it. 50% of the, you know,
murders is caused by 13% of the population, right? That is true.
But the way it's being used and say, oh, yeah, 13% extended
populations, murderers, right.
Adam Curry: I mean, it just doesn't fit into any one of
those categories. For me personally, because I know that
Moe Factz: couldn't either I want to see I just wanted to run
that by
Adam Curry: manipulation. That's what it is. He's manipulating it
to, to make a point to the point of freedom of speech, because I
think I heard him we'll get to that, I'm sure. Where he's, you
know, this is what it costs me to have freedom of speech to be
able to draw what I want, say what I want and be who I want.
Yeah, I mean, he paid a much bigger financial price, but then
I did. Because I 15 years ago, I just said, I'm checking out you
know, I'm just gonna do my own thing and do it with the Vortech
you know, I had had to reduce my costs a lot. But I've had my
complete freedom of speech since that day and and you know, just
another way of going about it, I guess.
Moe Factz: Yes. So now we got against it. It's okay to be
white because this thing had been floating around for five
years. Were you aware of this? I didn't I wasn't aware of this.
Oh, it's okay to be white. Um, yes,
Adam Curry: I am aware of it because wrapped up in Austin,
you know, other places about say on like signs. And the minute
you see that this started a couple of years ago, actually, I
think. And it was immediately labeled as racist white
nationalists who were saying this but no, it was it was the
beginning of BLM let me just see if I can tell you how far back
that goes.
Moe Factz: Why you laid out so this this is kind of like the
All Lives Matter kind of thing. Right? And whoever comes up with
these tag lines or memes, or do you want to call them they're in
genius and function
Adam Curry: 22 cars 2020? May 2020 I think is the first time
we had a it was an Yeah, it was Van Jones I think was moaning
about it. You know, so
Moe Factz: it goes back further. Stephen it was like four or five
years old, so I'm just gonna give you Yeah, so make America
great again. Why all eyes matter? Yeah, when Kanye day
white lives matter, right? It's okay to be white. If you respond
that to that. You're racist. How can you know but how can you
know? Whoever created it. You say Oh, I'm not I'm not with
Magga he's like, Oh, you don't want to make America great
again. Right. He'll say Oh, you don't think you don't think oh
being white is okay, it's brill. You don't think all lives
matter? Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's like you just got to stay away from it because
you're never going to be right is rubber
Moe Factz: and glue man is rubber and glue so so let's go
ahead. This is a local another local report. When neighbors get
upset overseen the it's okay to be white flyer
Unknown: flyer that's been making the rounds in one
Beaverton neighborhood has some left wondering why
our CO Miller looked into this. He joins us live from the sexton
mountain neighborhood with more coal.
Well, Jennifer, good evening. I'm told those flyers have been
showing up on streetlights. And they read. It's okay to be
white. One neighbor here telling me that this part of town is a
melting pot, and she just wants everybody to feel safe.
And on a lamppost, there was just right smack in my eyeline
like somebody I'd put it there intentionally because I
instantly wrecked it down.
Mary Elizabeth summer couldn't believe it. This flyer found
just down the street from her front door. She says it made her
so upset. She took it home and then ran it through the
shredder.
Adam Curry: White Lady, I'm guessing.
Moe Factz: Yes, yeah. Yes. And this is let's go. Let's go and
jump to the second part. And then we'll talk about the other
side. This is this her being upset more
Unknown: others around Beaverton Sexton mountain, spotting them
to
my neighbor Naomi. She also came across one today and sent me a
picture image.
That flyer it seems is not unique to these streets far from
it. The Sacramento Bee just earlier this month reports
identical ones popping up around American River College and in
Florida. The anti Defamation League says a target employee
plays this card with that same message in a box of diapers.
They're what started as a prank on the online forum, 4chan is
now reported as being associated with white nationalism.
I am married to a half black woman. And this neighborhood is
very cool.
Adam Curry: That's great. Here's this woman.
Unknown: I am married to a half black woman. And this
neighborhood is very culturally diverse. We have onions, we have
Jewish people we have, you know, every color you can imagine. I
love it.
Adam Curry: Well, just just as a separate point, we have Indians,
we have Jewish people, you can't say Jews. Notice she doesn't
know that. And they're not
Unknown: very culturally diverse. We have Indians, we
have Jewish people we have, you know, every color you can
imagine. And if it were me, I was up the street of my
neighborhood. And I saw that I would not feel safe. And I don't
want any of my neighbors to not feel safe.
Summer says there's no place for any of that here. And once those
neighbors to know, they're more than welcome.
If you see these signs, that is not how we feel. That's not how
that is not Sexton mountain.
Adam Curry: It's so amazing. You see those?
Moe Factz: It's so amazing how we for you know,
Adam Curry: it's okay to be Indian. It's okay to be Jewish
people. It's okay to be any color color people, as you
rightly pointed out, but it's okay to be white. And that and
that is I know that Dvorak and I laughed about this stuff on the
show. By the way, no one gave up their donations or came at us
with axes or anything like that. Like, come on a bit. This is
performative, but unfortunately, this white lady really feels bad
about this. It's okay to be white. Does she I think, Oh,
yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's Oh, she really she feels
that this is a hateful thing to say. Because you can
Moe Factz: find it. I don't know. Call them bull crap.
Adam Curry: The context is this. It's she, like, I remember I
think as a kid, it's okay to be gay. I'm glad to be gay. I think
it was that saying if you're glad to be gay, it was it was a
hit song for a while seeing if you're glad to be gay. Sing if
you're happy that way. And it was okay to be gay. It's okay to
be white. But she is it's okay to be white. She just hears it
differently. I think that's that's what she's hearing. And
that's programmed into her maybe from her half black wife. I
don't know.
Moe Factz: What here's the thing is, and this is why it's hard
for me to separate because the same way I said the news I was
being performative. Will you see that sign? I think it's the good
amount of people's like, this is what expected of me, you know,
is I have to be torn up my day. I have to go get that sign and
not throw it in the trash. Oh, no, Lord, I had to take it back
to the house and shredded, you know, to show how broke I am.
Adam Curry: That's yeah, that's the performative part. I
guarantee I guarantee you mo I guarantee you, she felt
horrified by that sign. The performative part I had to go
shred it and all that and as I get the, the amount of
psychological operations that has been performed on American
citizens, I 100. I'm not gonna say at five by five, I believe.
She feels that as a hateful sign. Everything else she did
about it was performed, which in her core being she believes that
is a hateful thing to say.
Moe Factz: I believe her, I believe your take as well. But
I'm saying to the degree that people take it too is where it
becomes performative. Okay, I'm gonna give you a sample that's
just like I hate litters. I think that's one of the dumbest
things ever that you just chunk us out of saying I can or cut
out the window, but I'm not pulling it over and going to get
the cup the guy in front of me throughout. He's saying,
Adam Curry: Stop, stop. So here's a white lady experience.
My grandmother with the she was like Marilyn Monroe, man, she
was badass. Drove convertibles had five ex husbands. If she was
behind the car at a stoplight and someone threw some trash out
the window. She got out of her car, she picked it up. She
knocked on the window and said I just picked up your trash. So
see,
Moe Factz: see, that's the that's what I'm talking about.
But I'm just saying for myself. I I detest litres. But I'm not.
I'm saying she could attest what what she thinks is being
represented towards that. But it's the performative Parson
coming, I took action, and you go back to the office and like,
look, I always say you had the little shavings, and a Ziploc
bag and like see, it was saying this is why anti racism
Adam Curry: agree, I'm just saying I grew up a middle white
middle America, at least until age seven. But you know, there
was back and forth. This was it was all performative. In the
middle class, right middle class, white people would be
like, Hey, man, keep America clean, and do this. And it was
very, like, you know, you've got to do these certain things,
you've got to be like this. i It's hard to explain. But it's
the other side, you know, remember, it's the other side of
how black middle American middle class Americans would be, oh,
boy, the kids got to dress up nice. We're gonna go visit those
people, whatever. You know, it's like, it's performative. But
it's deep. It's very, at its core. I think it's deeply
ingrained in us.
Moe Factz: I agree with you. I agree with you. And I'll add to
your point that the reason for the performance is deeply
embedded, yeah, the knee, need to perform, you know that I just
want to go over to my friend's house where some clubs regular
clothes home, but that need, you know, to be accepted. And the
reason why I'm stressing this point is, this is the cost is
going to call it cost Scott Adams. I'm letting him know now
what you wanted to happen to black people where you don't
invite them to weddings and functions and stuff like that,
that Oh, no reverse card is going to be played on you.
Because it's like, you know, we can't have Scott at the wedding.
Yeah, he just went through a NASware. That's where the system
really kicks in. You're saying, Hey, we he's persona non grata
they have a word for it. Is No, we can't have you have to stay
away from Scott Adams. He's a hate group, you will say that he
projected out, it's gonna fall upon him. And he's bigger than
money, bro. As big as this system is bigger than money.
Adam Curry: Now, how about how about this matter, this meta
part of it? Man, he doesn't give a shit. Maybe he doesn't care.
So that kind of makes him actually in a way racist.
Moe Factz: We shouldn't care because he had fu money,
understand the social cause. He was saying the social costs to
being the old grumpy old man is nobody invites you to the
cookout in the neighborhood. It's like you can we can invite
you know, say whatever, whoever you know, they say oh, you know,
Adam Curry: well, little, little little secret. I don't think
Scott Adams actually leaves his house that much at all. Well, it
works and works well for him. So I don't think that's going to be
much of a problem. It may not change his life very much.
Moe Factz: Okay, so I'm just saying that to anybody that gets
cancelled with money. People are how bad can it
Adam Curry: be can you know can be bad? It can be very
Moe Factz: bad. You get the worst tables. You get set by the
bathroom. When you go to restaurants you can get on the
you know? Get a reservation. Yeah, good point. Good. Robert.
Scott. I'm sorry. You know, he's just been busy lately. So now,
Adam Curry: I have to say one more thing. I can't tell you who
told me but it was someone who knows him personally. And he's
an I don't I Call Bull crap on it right away. It was. Oh, man
ever since I did that life's been great. And I'm getting laid
like crazy. Direct quote. I'm calling I believe it. I'm
calling bull crap on
Moe Factz: bro. Like it I'm telling you racism has a built
in fan base. Okay, I'm not saying it's Arden is not may not
be that large. I'm talking about people that look for new people
to claim to like, Oh, this is our hero. Are you somebody else
makes the same statement. Oh, that's our hero. Like Scott was
the guy named Scott when it was named petite. Dave potently
whatever his name is over at the sports gambling outfit. I don't
know. Anyway, he went online
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, I know he's talking about
Moe Factz: it was him in the guy from MSNBC the old guy that's
kind of like off his rocker right now. named Keith Olbermann
with his whole recent thing college basketball. They said it
lady was a was was it classes piece about bit are pointing to
a ring? Yeah, it was she was pointing to the rain Taunton. It
was a black girl, taunting a white girl and then they said
that the white girl or he had done it earlier. Earlier game to
another player team or something. But the whole point
is that with Dave and Keith Olbermann, who is far left as
you probably can get, when you do something that can be
perceived as racist, there's an instant fan base there, guy. So
I'm with you. And with this case, it doesn't have to be a
person it can be. It could be a pole. So we have to go to
Rasmussen, the actual creditor the pole and I have a clip from
them speaking on the actual numbers.
Unknown: Do you agree or disagree with this statement?
It's okay to be white mindblowingly? Or perhaps not,
the vast majority of American adults agree 72% and 58%
strongly agree only 12% disagree, and only 6% of those
strongly. Now, 17% of Americans are not sure. And that's a
pretty big number for a question like this, which shouldn't be a
simple question to answer. To me, that is the standout number,
people paraded or guilted so much that they won't anonymously
submit a response to an IVR call or an online survey. Now, just
for those wondering if we took out the nod shores, then 86% of
Americans agree with that statement. A whopping 70%
strongly. We just proved that the vast majority of Americans
88% either agree with or refuse to answer whether they agree
with a statement that the Southern Poverty Law Center has
literally labeled hate speech. I think that's a big deal.
Adam Curry: Wow. Where to dig this up? That's great.
Moe Factz: It actually from their website, he went to like a
whole hour it just get people to the name of the video and go
found on YouTube. Rather than ends poll. It's okay to be
white. And then the second part of this is about is who can be
racist, which will may touch on another show at another time.
But I'm not ducking away from that, either. But we will focus
on it focus on if it's okay to be white or not. But yeah, he
goes and breaks down the numbers. And as you can see,
Scott Adams was wrong.
Adam Curry: Right. Oh, my good boy. Here's, I mean, it's crazy
that the Southern Poverty Law Center is now the gold standard
of, of what is hate speech and hate hate, basically hate? Yes.
And they're, they're the biggest hate group I know.
Moe Factz: And they used to do somewhere or allegedly used to
do so much good work. But yeah. So as he said, you might have
asked white people, they don't know if say if it's okay or not.
So the best thing is, I don't know. And you can have black
people. Is this a trick question who was caught on my phone? And
now you have these numbers. You know, that can be a fact that
you can factor in the yeses and noes, but it's convenient to add
I don't know the buff your number. Of course, of course.
It's only this amount to say it's okay to be white. So I just
wanted to break that down. But as we can see, hate can be
weaponized from both sides. You need this kind of stuff fuels
both mediums. And I have two examples. I want to go look at
here. And one of them is the read report with me some joy.
Surprise. Yeah. used to say Das was a hate group. Yeah, I mean,
I'm putting you in the same bag as Scott Adams. Oh, no, it's
yeah, it's very interesting, but I want you to hear this wind up
before the pitch.
Unknown: We begin tonight with the supersized panic of the
American right. Post Obama backlash may have escalated the
panic more than 10 years ago. But then Donald Trump poured the
freakout with gasoline. It was Trump who unveiled the racism
and misogyny that was always there, but through it wide open,
normalize the depths of the country's prejudice even made it
fashionable for conservatives. Their vision of America
crystallized online within our government to the post Trump age
of open fascism. We saw open demonstrations of hate from
white nationalists using tiki torches to light up
Charlottesville to the attempted Confederate takeover of the
Capitol. Once the Pandora's box of bigotry is open, things get
out of control quickly and in a horrifying way. People don't
even feel bad about their anti blackness these days. They are
grossly you actually kind of proud of it. Case in point,
Dilbert.
Moe Factz: Wow,
Adam Curry: there's a lot in there, like the Confederate
takeover of the Capitol and this. Yeah, that's what those
black people and Asian people were doing. That's confederates,
man.
Moe Factz: You see that wind up though? Before she even gets to
Scott Adams. She put the Trump thing on there, man. Everything,
all him saying this and look, Scott Adams if he was being
truthful. Thank you for being honest, the most, the best thing
you could do is be honest with the person and I'll shake your
hand. You all want us around, and you don't want to be around
us. Great. Oh, that's not far off from Wow for you, you know,
because like I say, if you want to go to black town, you want to
go to white town, you want to go to agent town you want to go to
you know, wherever these communities, you know, people
create their own communities. That's great. That's awesome.
You know, we don't need the thing with diversity is it wants
to flatten everything into this consumer culture. No, I'm a big
supporter. And we need to have these enclaves a culture. And
when we had it, it made America great, but it can't be
sanctioned by the state to be separated. And you can't feel
forced either. So I'm right there in the middle. You know,
if people want to be around each other great. Yeah. But if
somebody wants to be around me, they shouldn't be forced. That's
that's the that's the in a nutshell. So that's, that's her.
Why don't you want to hear more questions?
Adam Curry: I can't wait. We need some joy read. Let's go
Unknown: Dilbert the widely Syndicated Comic Strip about
office culture that appeared in 2000 newspapers around the
world. You may be familiar with the comic, but maybe not its
creator, Scott Adams. Frankly, I had no idea who the guy was,
well, until he went on a racist rant on YouTube last Wednesday.
I think it makes no sense whatsoever, as a white citizen
of America to try to help black citizens anymore. So I'm gonna
I'm gonna back off from being helpful to black America,
because it doesn't seem like it pays off. If you're nearly half
of all blacks are not okay with white people. According to this
poll. Not according to me. According to this poll, that's a
hate group. That's a hate group. And I don't want anything to do
with
how black folk ever survived without you, whoever you are.
Okay, there is a lot to unpack there.
Adam Curry: She's so annoying.
Moe Factz: Thank you. Thank you for saying that. Because that's
why I left that last part in there. And I really didn't want
to hear from her other than that wind up. There Scott Adams is
the representation you know, of whatever when he was just on
your team not too long ago, right. That's that's the thing
about is this. This team thing is not working out. Because this
is you have to be a complete 100% loyalist. You can't have
any diversity in thought so correct. But yeah, she is
annoying. I think she's trying to be Tucker Carlson or the anti
Tucker Carlson or something. Delivery has changed.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, but also whoever you are, like, she
knows exactly who he is. Yeah.
Moe Factz: Six months ago, she would have been dying to eat
dinner with him. Let's just keep it a buck here. I mean, we're
gonna stop playing. Like, come on. Come on. So no, so just to
bring some humor into it. I think the SNL had a good little
skit where they interview actually interviewed Dilbert.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Didn't have the Dilbert doll like the big
doll in the on the weekend update.
Moe Factz: Right he was actually a mascot.
Adam Curry: Yeah, Scott Exactly.
Moe Factz: Let's go here Jose was around the country are
dropping beloved comic strip Dilbert. After its creator Scott
Adams went on a racist rant last week advocating for white people
to get the hell away from black people. By the way.
Adam Curry: You know, the reason why they say in all television
racist rant, these they love alliteration. Anytime you can do
the same starting letter, you know, racist rant, you know,
beautiful bootcamp. I just want to build
Moe Factz: that better. Bill, thank you advocating white
people to get the hell away from black people off the record.
He's got a point here
Unknown: Hey, Michael,
Heidelberg, So had you ever seen this side of Scott Adams before?
Michael, I think I can speak for myself and the entire all white
staff at the Dilbert offices when I say this was a total
shock. I mean, most cartoonists are weird, but racist, weird.
Let's just say I didn't see that meme.
Adam Curry: Michael Che is kind of he's always slipping and
stuff like that all the way. Which and how do you feel about
that?
Moe Factz: With this particular one? It was his true look,
making the Don Lemon. I mean, I think that was kind of because
they have these clips of Don Lemon sand exact same thing
Scott Adams is saying. So these, these media types, the
intellectuals the first chance they get in this
Adam Curry: did Don Lemon say yes, it's true. That what? Well,
what I'm referring to is this black people off the record.
He's got a point. Off the record. Yeah, point. Yeah, that
part. Yeah.
Moe Factz: Yeah, that's the point. Yeah, I just want I'm
saying that, that kind of lends to what Don Lemon was saying,
like, pull up your pants. You know, this is why our community
the way it is, and sound a lot like what Scott Scott Adams did,
and I have these clips. I didn't clip it, but just to give people
a trigger warning, I have some Larry elder coming up. Like, he
played Delaire. And he played the Don Lemon clips of him
saying basically the same thing. And I think it's a mindset, you
know, Don Lemon, and Scott Adams have more in common to me and
Don Lemon.
Adam Curry: Right. This just got me I got you. I got you. Yeah.
Moe Factz: So that's the point I'm trying to make there. But
let's go and get to the second part of this pretty good. SNL
clip.
Unknown: Now I knew he was bad. He made me go into the office
every single day during COVID and he knows I'm auto immune.
Your auto immune. Do I look like somebody who's not auto immune?
Yeah, I'm a real athlete. My hair is skin Michael. Your hair
skin? Yes. I cannot stress this enough. My hair is entirely
skin. And it has been the great tragedy of my life. I'm very
sorry. No, I'm sorry, Michael, for racism. Maybe I was just
blind to it. I mean, my glasses are literally opaque white. To
me. He was just Scott, the funny guy, the Trump supporting
cartoonist who did magic in his spare time at a great Kevin Hart
impression. Well, that sounds like a racist to me. Well, turns
out he was a racist. And I was surprised creation. I mean, what
does that make me? I want an answers. So I took a god forbid
personal day and really started to dig in on the concept of what
is work right. Reading Karl Marx, Stokely Carmichael, lots
of the black radicals. And I realized something. Even mundane
work serves to uphold a capitalist system built to
maintain a racial hierarchy. But that's all about to change. race
wars coming. You ready? Michael? What? Are you ready because
Dilbert is ready. I woke up this morning ready to take the
streets and paint the city with a blood of the white man. It's
pretty intense, man.
Adam Curry: I think they kind of nailed it. But
Moe Factz: I was pretty good. And eerily when I saw this image
of deer weird or this rendition of Dilbert is it intentional
that he looks like the falling down guy? Remember the movie
falling down? The guy just snapped. Yeah, he started going
crazy when? Michael Douglas, I think, yeah, he had the sleeves
rolled up the glasses. Is that a tissue and a necktie with the
short sleeve shirt. You know, that kind of thing? Like, I
wonder if it's, I don't know which which one to imitate.
Adam Curry: I was gonna say, I don't know who's been around
longer, but it is it is clearly the same character, the one
who's going to snap him like, like Dilbert just did. blood
draw the white man. Yeah.
Moe Factz: And then what little factoids, and as I was reading
Mike Lee Stokely Carmichael, excuse me, and, and Karl Marx,
black revolutionaries. Well, we talked about Karl Marx,
potentially being black. Yeah. Because he was called, the more
we look at the pitcher, he could be, you know, passing. So, so I
was just like, they slipped that in there. That's pretty. It's
funny, because these people perceive it not to be true.
That's what made it funny, but could actually be true. So I
thought that was a pretty
Adam Curry: good, you know, it's like if you could have thrown in
the FBI guy, you know, what's his name? Right? Over? Exactly.
Exactly. You could have thrown that in, but no one would have
gotten that joke. Only us.
Moe Factz: Right. So that was a pretty good setup. But yeah.
Let's, let's go ahead and move on. I got like, I promise. We
got some lair elders, and he doesn't disappoint. All the
hands. He couldn't. Okay.
Unknown: Yesterday, we played the Dilbert comic strip creator
Scott Adams, reacting to a poll by Rasmussen saying at this
point because blacks have become so anti white. He wants nothing
to do with black people who think that way. Now he
mischaracterized the poll, most blacks in fact, 53% say it's
okay to be white. 26% said it's not 21% said they don't know. So
in fact, a quarter of black people disagreed that it is okay
to be white, not a majority of blacks, as Adam said, but still
Adam makes a valid point.
As we identify Ah, wait. Because I don't want to be a member of a
hate group, I'd accidentally joined a hate group. So if
you're nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people,
according to this poll, not according to me, according to
this poll, that's a hate group. That's a hate group. And I don't
want to have anything to do with them. And I would say, you know,
based on the current way things are going, the best advice I
would give to white people, is to get the hell away from black
people. Just get away. Wherever you have to go, just get away.
Because there's no fixing this. This can't be fixed.
And not too surprisingly, the fit here to Shan hundreds of
newspapers have now canceled his trip.
Adam Curry: We have to for context, I don't think we
explained that earlier people. Scott, when when it was like
identify as identify as a woman identify as of this. And he was
like, oh, identify as black that was, you know, haha, okay. And
he but he kept that up for a couple of years, like identify
as black. That's, you know, so he's adding that in there. Like,
you know, I was black identified as black and I don't want to be
part of the hate group,
Moe Factz: which is provocative because it does bring up the
question how you can be trans everything else is set racial.
Which I'm sure Larry elders. Anyway, now, let's say I
digress. But this is what makes it hard on Larry.
Unknown: Like, the poor Larry.
Moe Factz: He's the king of Mount information. 90%, maybe
even not the 9% of the stuff he says is true. But it's the it's
the way he uses it. You know, how can you say yeah, he was
kind of right. After you say he missed represent the poll, and
they you sandwich that in between what he actually said
like, I don't care where you have to go, it was at Larry's
like, that's what I've been saying, you know,
Adam Curry: where does this actually air where does this
Larry elder stuff air? Where do you get that on YouTube? Man?
You got you got to? He's got a whole YouTube thing going on?
Moe Factz: Yeah. So that's why I get it from she has a podcast
and maybe even a radio show. But he's got the
Adam Curry: whole castle radio show as you're doing this on
YouTube alone.
Moe Factz: I'm not sure I can't verify that. But I know for sure
he puts these clips on YouTube, which like I said, 90% of the
stuff he says it's factual. But it's the weaponization of it,
you know, that makes
Adam Curry: him so successful. I mean, he's contrary he's
controversial.
Moe Factz: Correct and which is no problem with what Ben That's
why you run into the issue have when, you know, when you try to
speak to black people, yeah. And bring the facts which like I say
a lot of stuff he says is true, but it's the it's the it's the
weaponization of not to be redundant but now we're gonna go
and watch him deflect at night that's the only thing he said
about Scott in the whole clip. There he goes he plays the the
Don Lemon clips which I've mentioned before and then he
Clint yeah he cleans it up with this right here the always go to
deflection let's go let's hear eleri
Unknown: rather than think Adams for saying out loud but clearly
a lot of people feel including a lot of black people are saying
and feeling so we could have you know a healthy discussion about
this growing black anti white racism if not hatred. Adam is
not counted.
Moe Factz: stopped right there. He said instead of thanking him
for everything that you just heard. We should be thanking him
Larry I'm gonna say this that's a bold statement they're
thanking
Adam Curry: him so what he's saying is he's saying is true
Moe Factz: what were hate group was part that's what I'm saying
like Are you saying it's true
Adam Curry: that the dead black people in America hate white
people? That's what I asked
Moe Factz: for not for that poll. That's the thing is like
from the poll is saying it's it's amazing they get take a
piece of information. The reason why I'm harping on this is to
just bring home the scale point. They can play you the clip that
he explained he broke down the whole poll, how it was being
misrepresented by Scott and his people are Hager I've been
trying to tell you that he just got bad information. I usually
they came to me I couldn't get you some stuff that really
proves that there a hate group
Adam Curry: Hotep Larry been told you exactly.
Unknown: Rather than sick Adams for saying out loud. We're
clearly a lot of people feel including a lot of black people
are saying and feeling so we could have you know, a healthy
discussion about this growing black, anti white racism is not
hatred. Adam is being hounded. Shut down canceled. And notice
the most respected black leader in America says absolutely
nothing I speak of course about one Barack Obama. The idea
here's a man who got elected with a higher percentage of the
white vote and John Kerry did four years earlier
Adam Curry: on. Does Larry think Barack Obama is black?
Moe Factz: Destined to make sure. be intelligent? Oh my god.
Can you put that on our book? No,
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, no. All right, here we go.
Unknown: Here's a man who got elected with a higher percentage
of the white vote than John Kerry did four years earlier,
who walked into the Oval Office a third week of January 2009,
with a 70% approval rating, blah, blah. I love it. I love
it. Why? Because even people who didn't vote for Obama felt that
at the very least, at the minimum, he could bring us
together racially, but he did the opposite. He said among
other things, the Cambridge Police acted stupidly. No, they
did not. He said racism is in America's DNA. That's a lie. The
first time Gallup in the 1950s asked Americans if they would
vote for a black president. That number was in the 30s. Now only
a tiny percentage of whites say they would not vote for a black
person if they thought he or she was qualified
Adam Curry: that talk about performative but he's literally
he's a performer. So no, slide. And he's funny. I think it's
funny me it's funny to hear this like, okay, Larry,
Moe Factz: he's good at what he does. No, no, don't mistake, my
critique of him is not saying he's good. No, he's great. Is
the fact that like, it's just that the mount information thing
for me. Are you trying to, as I always say, are you speaking to
reach or to be right? There you go. When I speak, I try to reach
people. You know, that's why I always humanize people in let's
figure, let's learn from this thing and not just come up here.
We could have easily done this for four years. And I could have
got up here and just ranted and raved. And you could have ranted
and raved.
Adam Curry: But But then that was the Barack Obama Bruce
Springsteen podcast, so we didn't want to do
Moe Factz: every copycat after us. I just had to say like, this
is, this is my victory lap right here. You folks, I'm telling you
that what we're what you're witnessing, you're not gonna see
it again. Because me and Adam are not ingrained prior to
having the conversation where we were complete and total
strangers. I know your public persona, but not to get to this
level of conversation. No, it's not. I don't think it's gonna be
repeated. But yeah, so that's, that's Larry, and finishes like,
come on. I mean, come on. So now we have Karen. Karen Hunter,
Adam Curry: oh, wow, the fan of the fan favorite of the show.
Moe Factz: So watch how she walks the line, because I think
she's, she's a journalist, I believe. And so it's one thing,
she probably has friends that are friends with Scott or this
kind of thing. But then she also has to stay to the performative
black reaction. So I want you to just listen to how she we use
our way through this.
Unknown: Now he's trying to call himself being an ally.
Obviously, some people believe that he's not, you know, I mean,
you believe that he's been an ally, because I see the nuance
in his in his conversation and when you go beyond just the you
know, the the soundbite clips that you can pull out and make
them look really crazy. I see what he's right what he thinks
he's attempting to do on that spin that space. But I also feel
like he's very bitter as well. And you know, if you live in a
country where you're seeing people progress, like I'm sure
in your space, lawsuits.
Moe Factz: Can I just heard something I had her before, but
she does the same. Her whoever's doing the call and response. You
know, this is a call response many people talk about she does
the same. Yes. From the guy on the local news report. Right?
Yeah,
Adam Curry: yes, yes. Yeah, you're right. He was
Unknown: on that spin that space, but I also feel like he's
very bitter as well. Yeah. And you know, if you live in a
country where you're seeing people progress, like I'm sure
in your space, you got a lawsuit so your your progression looks
like oppression to somebody that's used to seeing you in a
subservient role. So every place you turn we got up the President
was a black man now we got a vice president they just put a
black woman on the Supreme Court
Adam Curry: Indian Yeah,
Unknown: maybe. But this is what I'm saying. You know, to you and
everyone listening, Nicole, that that that that foments into is
jealousy. It's it's insecurity, its weakness, but in a mob
setting, which we saw with the capital is deadly. And vigilant,
you know, and you're right. You're
Adam Curry: Wow, she I mean For joy read to take it to the
Capitol. Okay. But for Karen hunter to do it in this way. And
Moe Factz: by the way, you see where she started it though.
Yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: you know, this is very interesting. Well, two
things I won't get to the capitalist. Yeah, well, first
the capital. So, yesterday me, I'm driving back from Austin and
I'm listening to some of the coverage of the indictment of
40 5am. And because they had nothing, they all too Oh,
January 6, it's all that's like a standard thing. Let's just go
back to January 6, go back to, to the to the insurrection. But
what I find fascinating as both Larry elders and Karen Hunter,
clearly black Americans, both of them, just pretend that Barack
Obama and Kamala Harris are black Americans. And that farce
that pisses me off.
Moe Factz: It's that you have to stick to the screw is dissonant.
Adam Curry: I know, but it's disingenuous. And how come the
lady on the phone doesn't say you know what, to just not block
it? The skin color, but what I get,
Moe Factz: that's the basis that's the
Unknown: answer insecurity, it's weakness, but in a mob setting,
which we saw with the capital is deadly. And I need us all to be
vigilant, you know, and you're right, you're right. I think
with this guy is nuanced, but all it takes is one group, you
know, to put this on Reddit, and now they you know, he's their
hero. Whatever he intended I don't know You know, I don't
know what's in that man as far as Nicole but I do know that
this kind of language left unchecked is dangerous because I
saw it happen in Nazi Germany so
Adam Curry: Oh, she by the way, she's 103 years old because she
saw it happen and now Nazi Germany she was there boots on
the ground baby
Moe Factz: you You're right. Yeah, you know,
Adam Curry: what is that? Oh,
Moe Factz: maybe she's right that we've seen this before Mr.
Walt Disney. We know what you did. If you want to go there,
but I bet you won't go there. So Wow. Wow. That's yeah, that we
know no animation
Adam Curry: and also you know, since when was January 6 ratio.
I mean, if she had said, you know, like, Forget Joy read you
know, so this is a you know, the tiki torches. Also farce, but
okay, at least that would have gotten a little closer to
racism, but January 6, I don't think that's that's been seen as
racist as it been. Did I miss a memo?
Moe Factz: The media class, specifically the black media
class has been tasked with panning This is racist. You
know, that was a she better get the people dealing with other
white people. You know, that's, that's I looked at the capital.
Adam Curry: She, she better read her memos. Because in case you
didn't know it, can Hunter Black is out trans is in is January 6,
was clearly transphobic.
Moe Factz: Thank you. Sure. Well, we're done with you to the
side, we know we got about 90% of your vote, and you're saying
2024? So I mean, we're good. We need it. We need to push the
trans. You know, and and I want you since you brought up
alliterations Larry elder need to update his his talking points
because it's no longer anti white racism is reverse racism.
And I heard Trump drop that a couple of times and his address
over so I think there's a pivot yet to reverse racism from anti
white racism, which is the problem that it worked out it
was who
Adam Curry: because because I would say a couple of years ago,
if you said That's reverse reverse racism, people say
reverse racism is racism. Okay. Yeah, of course it is. Racism is
racism. That that's a good point. But it is now accepted as
a talking point reverse racism. Interesting.
Moe Factz: Let's just listen for because I heard him say it and I
was like, that's, that's a good alliteration. But at the same
time, it rolls off the tongue better than anti white racism
and reverse racism ages just flows. So that's the that's the
wrap on the what the happenings of the Scott situation, I think
we need to Thanks for people now we shared the white
Unknown: man in the black man have to be able to sit down at
the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his
mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the
so called legal or has to feel free to speak his mind without
hurting the feelings of the white man, then they can bring
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Moe Factz: I was triggered well I become for me that so we're
hearing black we're hearing white the waves got I was told
everybody in one lump, you know a black stay away from blacks.
That's the monolith thing right? All when you hear people come in
all black people are not we're not a monolith. I think we need
to visit or revisit. We're a monolith. With a proper
definition. This is from I swear English on YouTube, which I love
his definition videos. Great work. So
Unknown: monoliths countable noun, monolithic as an adjective
monolithically as an adverb, I guess. Okay, a monolith is a
well the original meaning it's a single block of stone, which
stands vertically notice monolith as to origin. Okay,
mono, one. And lists from lethal force. Yeah. Meaning a stone in
ancient Greece. Yeah. Where it comes from Latin monoliths made
of a single block of stone. Okay, and that's the idea of, of
a monolith. But we use this word to describe other things. We can
also use a monolith to talk about a very powerful large
organization. Yeah. I think in this case, we were using it a
bit critically. Yeah, we're suggesting that it doesn't want
to change. It's not interested in the individuals. So a
monoliths a huge organization. Yeah, that doesn't really care
about the individuals.
Adam Curry: Okay. There you go, monolith.
Moe Factz: So it's just the group is bigger than the
individual kind of thing. And I have some proof here, going back
to the 1960s that black people have never been not to live but
in a description white and black in itself, those terms a
monolithic course, you know, to have it you know, it's, you
know, this is white, this is black.
Adam Curry: This is white, that's a good point whenever
this comes up, but is it okay to be white? So excuse me, we're
not a monolith. In fact, Asians are considered white.
Moe Factz: When they're Asian see, like, that's the monolith,
though they're the Asian, there wasn't the they have the acronym
for now?
Adam Curry: Exactly. There is just like, yeah, just
Moe Factz: like the Latino and the Latin X and Latino
communities. You know, they just lump them all together, which
the, their politics is very diverse, that we've seen with
the voting numbers, trans, you know, say that's a model live,
it's like, you know, everybody, you know, everybody is tick tock
teachers. You know, the trans community, in a great amount of
lift is the gay gay community, you know, the LGBT community,
you as you pointed out very early on not? It's not it's not
a monolith. But when you use these terms, you're implying it
in the term itself. When you say black, what is black? What does
that mean? What mean? Only thing blacks me is not white. Right?
That's, that's, that's the governmental term for it.
Because what did we call them? Were what were white, they gotta
be black, you know, a colored that they expanded it colored
people or people of color, that is white Bester model live, and
you have everybody else in the group. And we're just gonna lump
them all together as people of color, which I found that term
to be so disgusting. That's why I say colored people, because
it's that mentality that you're standing out of, you know,
you're not individuals. But not to belabor the point, I want to
get to this 1960s. I don't know who was doing the recording, I
couldn't find much history on it. But this is wealthy, middle
class black people in Los Angeles, and listening, how they
talk about their southern blacks that are pouring into Los
Angeles at the time.
Unknown: You recall in our last meeting, we discussed the
problem with integrated housing. And we found out that almost
1700 negros are moving into Los Angeles, by 1970, they'll
probably be a million vehicles in this city. And I know that
people are concerned about this. They may not talk about it very
often. But I certainly heard them chatter in church, when he
said there'd be a million negros in Los Angeles,
we shut it because we were saying, in essence, the majority
of these people are not like we are. And we felt that we maybe
some of us felt we left this out because we were getting away
from this problem. We are a part of this accident, too. But we
may be embarrassed by the fact that here we're going to have a
mass element come in, that's going to create a tremendous
social problem in the community, to which we find a great deal of
difficulty relating to
Adam Curry: Oh, I like it and we forgot that. monoliths negros.
Yeah, another great,
Moe Factz: always a term African American, is that reinvent this
term over and over again, to keep it monolithic, but you hear
here, they shuttered shuttered with the idea that there were
million need. Why? Why? Why? Because I don't want people to
think they're like me, you know, look at them. If this isn't a
this is the boot. This is the Boulay mentality, which is the I
am different mentality. I traverse you know, I traverse
blackness to reach this pinnacle. I don't I do damned if
I live in LA I'll be damned if I let Black these commoners come
here and be smashed my name you know, that's that kind of
mentality. And this is the 1960s that was 60 years ago yeah, that
they were talking like this but I'm frustrated. Oh, we should
overcome we need to integrate, but not willing to integrate
their own
Adam Curry: color, mono color well into
Moe Factz: their community, but you can't come to our community
we shudder to think of the thought of that. But I have
more. Let's see another one.
Adam Curry: Let me ask you Do you consider a das to be a
monolith?
Moe Factz: A Das is a designation and that's why I was
so important important because I am a descendant of American
slaves and the person that identifies with that has the
same lineage you know we politics is different. Solutions
is different you have communist you have Marxist you have
capitalists, you know you have anarchy is you know, the
political ideas is different. The thing with black misapplied
This you pointed out yourself. Look how they do it. Brock
Obama, black, he's black. What does that even mean? He's not
even black, brown. And I'm thinking starting to think he's
Indonesian. The eyes start Yeah. Well, you start looking at the
president, Indonesia, you look at Barack Obama, and you see
where he comes from? I'm just saying like, we're not gonna go
there. And the same thing with Kamala Harris. Is your Jamaican
Indian but no, you're black. We're going to dismantle that we
have to keep this monolith. And it's out of necessity because we
need this is the one voting bloc, we can count correct. It's
all everybody else. All monoliths
Adam Curry: are political. All Yes.
Moe Factz: All it's a voting bloc. Which a monolith did well
block a stone was solid, you know, is indistinguishable from
his other other parts. Right. You know, it's, it's, you know,
so I just wanted to bring that up. Let's go. Sorry.
Adam Curry: I don't know why that happened.
Moe Factz: So let's go ahead and get into the second part of this
fascinating clip.
Unknown: Oh, my phone, I could do gooder. Because I really am
not, and I'm someone else. But I just think with these people
coming in who are not our intellectual Isa, nor are they
of our socio sociological bracket. They're not to be a
handicap to us, they'll find their own level now to sound
like a snob, but I don't mean it this way. But they're used to
living a certain way. And they might rise rise above their art.
And might one day be out associates.
Adam Curry: What? Yes, they could rise up, they could watch
that not the definition of uppity.
Moe Factz: Yeah, this is like I said, this is the blue light, I
don't know who got their camera in there are pieces are getting
together and play some bridge or whatever, you know, bring the
camera. And we you know, we're going to talk about why it's a
problem with these Negroes coming to Los Angeles. You know,
right, we made it here first. And we've established and this
is, we talked about this before. This was common in New York,
Philadelphia, everyone black people were migrating out of the
south to these places. This is what not only were they met with
the racism you're saying from quote unquote, white people or
non black people, because I mean, it was kind of fluid who
was white at that time, you know, you had the, you know, had
the Italians and you know, the Irish and those kinds of things
that hadn't been annexed into whiteness fully just yet. So not
only you had to deal with that buffer class, you had to deal
with sure the, you know, the, the internal buffer class of the
Boulais. It's like, Oh, my God, they're gonna think we're like
them. The same thing with the lady with the I am white. I
mean, it's okay to be white poster. I don't want them to
think. I don't want you to think we think like that. Right. It's
the same mentality.
Adam Curry: We're not white like Scott Adams. We're different
ways.
Moe Factz: Y'all, we're totally different. We don't think it's
okay to be white around here. Oh, no, no, no, this Imagine
that. That's crazy guy, it blows the mind. You know, the thing.
You know, you can be as you said, and I agree with you
manipulated to the point where you're embarrassed by your own
identity. That's a fascinating mind screw right there. Let's go
and get to the third part of this clip. The whole
Unknown: tone of this meeting is a way of setting us up selves up
as little puppet Jesus's we can't help anyone else until we
help ourselves. The Nico has had two professions, his own
medicine, dentistry, psychiatry, and entered the profession of
being in April. And many of us who have come out here to escape
from this second profession of being a negro. And we are out
here while they were working in our own field, and then we find
out that here are the same problems are falling on the
heels of 1500s negros a month that come into Los Angeles. Now,
your eye problem is our own view with our own identifying with
the Negroes that are coming in with a carpet bag that causes a
problem
Adam Curry: your carpet baggers. Nice.
Moe Factz: Yeah. You hear what I heard when I heard it. I was
like, I knew they thought this way when you read books, like
our kind of people. One of the best books written on the
Boulais
Adam Curry: you don't hear joy read play in this clip.
Moe Factz: This is joy. Yes, if I was a betting man when these
intellectuals get around each other, and they start to sip
wine And now look, I say we're not like whatever trend is on
tick tock or you know, when they look talk about drill, rap or
whatever else. It's like we're not those kind wasn't, you know,
Adam Curry: anyway also kind of like Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Moe Factz: Yes, it was that that happens a lot on this. This idea
mentality. And he think about it Phillip banks the character was
a drum in from Yeah, he was a judge but his parent was pig
farmers from South Carolina. And that's just the point. A lot of
these people I want don't use the word rain, but left the
South, establish yourself in the city. Kind of got to some kind
of point of stasis. Know what was ever going on. And we don't
want any disruptors we don't he called them problems. You hear
words like shudder to think. Yeah. Yep. So who are these
people? One of the people that I respect a lot, Thomas Sol, he
breaks down. And he identifies these people that are running
from as the black rednecks,
Unknown: black rednecks, who are they.
These would be blacks who came out of the Southern culture and
who carried that culture with them, a north into the end of
the urban ghettos into the ghettos of the South for that
matter, and who have not moved out of that cultural sense. over
the over the years, both blacks and whites have moved away from
that culture. But in the poorest and worst are the ghetto areas,
there are lots of people who have not, and these kinds of,
it's a culture which didn't do whites any good. And it's
certainly not doing blacks and a good today. And the tragedy is
that people regard this culture as somehow the authentic black
culture, and therefore you're not to interfere with it is to
be allowed to get so they're cheering people on. It reminds
me of a scene in the Blue Max, where this general is
encouraging this Daredevil pilot to do all kinds of wild stunts,
you see, knowing that the guy is going to kill himself if he
keeps doing this, and therefore the general will be rid of a of
a political problem. Now, I don't think that the white
liberals are doing this deliberately, but I think the
net results are the same. The sharing blocks on and doing
things that are absolutely self destructive.
What's the difference between a black redneck and a white
redneck
Moe Factz: color? Ah, once again, the same issue I had with
Larry elders in a different way but in function. And it's not
intentional. The Liberals are not doing it intentionally. This
is where I kind of can't allow with him is the system of white
supremacy is very intentional. Yes, fair. And one word
government is very intentional in every one of their actions
and deeds, letting their plans to let's throw that in there as
well. So when he gets to the point where I don't think it's
intentional, Mr. Stowell, you're and I say that with the utmost
respect, because thought leaders, I think he has a lot to
offer. But when you say is unintentional, I don't know if
you're unaware, or if you just don't want to, you know, if you
start going like that, and then you get down into radical
bucket. You know, you start talking about white supremacy
and is a system. Take the person, it's not personal. It's
a system that needs to be maintained to say it's not
intentional. Planned Parenthood. Clinics are built intentionally.
Yeah, prisons are built intentionally. Policies are
passed intentionally. The Crown Bill 2.0 is very intentional.
And we're going to be getting to that very soon. Not in the show,
but very soon. We saw it play out over these four years. Yes,
and the reason why I knew because this is all play, and it
worked. So it's like they're gonna be very intentional. And I
keep saying this word because that's what the rub with that's
the rub with I hate to use this term every day black people and
conservatives is that they don't know what they're doing. Oh,
you're looking too much into this. You know, it's not
intentional. very intentional, in my from my point of view, are
are very lucky. One of the others even very intentional
very lucky. Oh, but yeah, that's the best of black retina and I'm
going to answer a question of yours that you've been asking.
Since I've been listening to no agenda. This is what happened to
your teas.
Adam Curry: Oh. Really? No.
Moe Factz: This is what happened to your teas cuz I'm guilty of
it. You know, in southern culture, we pronounced t f is
age like bathroom. You're saying? Very soft on the end of
words like ti he was known as saying a roll that was like
watch. He'll say like, Hey, We trim the ended out words and
that doesn't, that doesn't identify lack of intellect. And
this is something they do to black Americans. That because we
speak with a different dialect, it seems as unin you know, lack
of intelligence. But you have whole new broadcast and Pidgin,
Adam Curry: the BBC especially well, and when we started the
show, I remember it just took me a while to get ready to get used
to x. And it was really when I discovered that that is, in
fact, the way it was originally written. Way, way, way back when
that I felt really stupid,
Moe Factz: and it's not been reported. I was like, why is it
if I say ask or ask, what's the what's the difference? You know
what I mean? Not you, but the person listening knows what I
mean. This is like I don't say to a Jamaican person when they
say tree for three. He's a dummy. Yeah, it was a it's like
karada, we do this well,
Adam Curry: oh, well, this is blah. It's almost like wow,
that's a good question. Because you expect Americans to be
monolith monolithic in our language. So that that's where
it starts from, I guess. Wow,
Moe Factz: I will say many mana lifts many my mi n. Because like
the the the common was that the New England or Canada I'm saying
they have a way of speaking.
Adam Curry: We have these diamond DOS, guys. You know, we
have all Italians we have oh, us us. Huge, huge.
Moe Factz: No us like wow, oh, you like you use
Adam Curry: us? I'm just thinking of Goodfellas with
these huge dudes. But oh, no, that wasn't good fellas, that
was my cousin Vinnie
Moe Factz: might wish that showed the southern versus the
northern event that takes race out of it. Yeah, that was that
culture room. He was out there backwards thinking and you know,
that kind of thing is and this is a struggle I have with being
southern. You just want to take race out of it. We they be you
when people hear your accent, they think you're at it. They
just seem to push.
Adam Curry: And I would say that, you know, white rednecks
are without a doubt considered to be Oh, that you talk like
that. You're dumb. You're clearly a redneck. You're
stupid. You live in a trailer park. That's always seen that
way.
Moe Factz: Black red is lesser than them. Yeah, you're under
them. So this is yeah. So
Unknown: what's the difference between a black redneck and a
white redneck color? Same kind of people same attitudes?
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And same kind of results. In terms
of the violence, the the number of black the number of Chinese
killed less than one year. And by Bob actually exceeds all the
blocks flinched in the entire history of United States.
In your opinion, what has to be done in the black schools or
among black students in order to bring them up?
One, you get rid of the things that are dragging them down. You
stop saying that speaking Black English, you know, is just as
valid and all that kind of stuff. It may be it's just as
valid to linguists and so forth. But the fact is, if you talk
that way, you're not likely to get into med school, you're not
likely to do very much in your life.
If you're still living 50 years from now, what would you
predict? There? The black race in this country would be Oh,
wow, we based on trends that you've seen. And in the last
2050, it
could go it could go either way. If the current trends continue,
it's going to be a disaster. But there's evidence of that the
current trends are not unchallenged.
Adam Curry: Man, what is this interview from?
Moe Factz: This is from night 2005 interview on C span with
Brian lamb and YouTube video was Thomas Sowell black rednecks is
the title of it. But yeah, this is this is, um, we're gonna get
deeper into this and the two points I want to make that came
back to me. But yeah, this is where your T is go to. Because
with anything, we mimic whatever's popular culture right
now and ever since maybe the early 2000s, southern Hip Hop
took over hip hop, Atlanta became the hub, Texas, Miami,
these kinds of things and it took over the crown. I know
start writing your hate email now. But the south took over the
crown for hip hop. And with that, hip hop, Southern rappers,
the change in linguistics, this is where your soft tees come
from. And I didn't I didn't pay attention to and to use the
break it up Yeah, but yeah, we say we say things differently.
Even if you're using the correct grammar, this the softening of
T's and I, what's the other thing is teasing something else
but Oh, and also the chopping off of words like, pod,
Adam Curry: you know that funk Sam?
Moe Factz: Fam pod you know, we we've been doing this for a long
time now. But it's just that it became so in
Adam Curry: fact goals are in fact if I hear another one of
these, one of these, these millennial Zoomer Chicks Go
dropping the T's I can say that's cultural appropriation
should be ashamed of yourself,
Moe Factz: you could if you want to participate in that
information now just say like, but now it's, it's good. It's,
it's, it's not a bad thing. But there's a dip between
conversational English and formal English. And this is,
this is where we need to make the the distinction because if
you talk to me in conversational English, it'll be more than
here. Like I say, I tried to I'm doing a broadcast. So I want to
make sure I'm clear to everybody. I don't have
subtitles. So it's a it's a it's just different, different
timing. But yeah, that's the point. I want to make about
those two things that for that, that's good. It's good to know.
Yeah, it was, but that's why Black redneck culture is
prominent in pop culture right now, because of the elevation
of, of southern hip hop artists. But the thing is, they found the
most the caricature of southern people, like for instance, um,
what was the what was the movie? That trick? Hustle and Flow?
That was a caricature of a southern hip hop artists we gave
you outcast? Yes. Which was one of the most forward thinking
forward looking groups at the time. But they didn't care. They
didn't copy that. They said, We want the what's good for pushing
this black redneck culture.
Adam Curry: You know? This is really funny now that you
mentioned that to me. Now I'm hearing now and of course, you
we've known each other for years. Now I hear you say most
and what? I hear you dropping the T's as never it's never
occurred to me before.
Moe Factz: Yes, now not like say it's natural. It's not like I
know it's a tea bear. I know how to spell the word, you know. And
I'll keep it on. Just keep it 100 People is when you're from
the south, you will hear your grandmother, aunts or people
when your family came down from New York. listen to them talk
and properly. It was a no show, you can now hit toggle and all
that proper reverse racism. Right. So that was the thing is
like we're conscious not to get too proper, right? as well.
Unless it's your mom on the phone with like somebody build
or something. Then Then you see the proper come out. But I just
want to make that point. So let's just jump in. This is just
a you can hear. This next clip is for show 14 victimization
mentality. This is an example of a person that could be
considered a black redneck, but they have moved to Chicago to
give a better life to their children. And this is from the
tenement.
Unknown: Most of the adults who live in the tenement on South
Ellis Avenue were born in rural areas of the South. They came to
Chicago looking for a better way of life. They came to the south
side of the city because they found that this was a place
where Negroes were permitted to live. They came here without
much education or sophistication in the ways of the city. They
came here poor about all that they brought with them where
their hopes and our dreams will stay poles on his wife Gloria
came from Alabama,
where a man got a dream to have a dream and you dream of going
in a place to make good to make it better for my family. That is
the case and for my kids. These are the reasons that I came up
Moe Factz: so that's that's your black red net. Right? They are
what they would consider the problem the problem that we're
making shutter a person like you know, the funny thing is Thomas
Sowell parents moved from the Carolinas, I think it was North
Carolina, really to New York, and have access to more for One
more education is what put them on a path to boo hoo hoo, he
will. So it's a very, he brought up the Fresh Prince of Bel Air
very similar backstory between Uncle Phil and Thomas Sol coming
from southern roots,
Adam Curry: but it's close to the heart you consider Thomas
soul to be old school? Boulais?
Moe Factz: No, they won't let them in. Okay, got it. You can
work your off cold, he's off cold. Yeah, you know, we're,
we're monetizing this blackness over here for our own games. And
here, you can talk about some, you know, self accountability.
No, you can't have stuff that's gonna mess up our our support
base got it. We got to we got to keep them wanting more. So let's
get back to speaking English. Let's get back to the Boulais.
And this is the fourth clip from the wealthy middle class blacks.
Unknown: Basic embarrassment that we as Negroes have, we want
to live together yet we want to sort of scatter to the far wind
and live amongst white people, we are born up in terms of this,
that to have a dark skin to have to be a negro there is something
wrong with it. And if you take a child and raise them by a child,
very impressionable child, and having grown up in an
atmosphere, where your color of skin is something that is looked
down upon that there is something wrong with you that
you are not you don't have the abilities of other people. Even
no matter how much education no matter how much training etc.
You have a lot of these impressions stay with you. I
feel that we have to search for a new image.
Adam Curry: Wow. Well, this is also colorism, of course, when
they really really dark skin.
Moe Factz: Yes. Which that that was a function in it as well,
which a lot of these people were fair skinned.
Adam Curry: Of course, that's how they did it. Paper Bag test.
Yes, you can't come in, you're not part of us.
Moe Factz: Just to remind people want to show that we talked
about Beyonce his father, he mentioned how even at Fisk in
the 1970s, they had a color test. You know, this is nothing.
I mean, this is the sixth season that's after the fact that these
conversations is happening. And in the book I mentioned before
all kinds of people, the author goes into how he went to these
sorority and fraternity parties. And on the outside, it was like
the party will be the darker people. And the center of the
party will be lighter and lighter until you get to the
middle. So yeah, so colorism does play a big part in this.
And it's funny, as you mentioned that this goes right on with
clip number five.
Unknown: This morning, I don't look in the mirror and say you
are a negros therefore you will face life in a certain way I see
myself as a person just like all the people that I work with. And
the children that I deal with. And they're all people are got
the brilliant idea of this consciousness of you've got to
look in the mirror face yourself to go from this bit about being
a Negro is very nice. Individual this concept was instilled in
you before you can think right. And first of all, we have every
symbol in our community, the white straight hair brown hair
as the symbol of the things as fat for now, there's nothing
wrong with it, except that it represents the very fact that we
are talking about the idea of the Negro in our society as a
rejected job. There's no two ways about it. It's in Los
Angeles in New York City isn't any place in the United States
Adam Curry: doesn't have still kind of exists. The colorism
aspect. In fact, oh yeah, the the N word is in fact used to
describe often a very dark skinned black man.
Moe Factz: Well, the N word now describes more mentality. Okay,
then then a color but I would say yet distinct colorism still
exists because look at politicians. It's a guy named
Ford. out it's on MSNBC. Oh, he's really really first.
Adam Curry: He on on the five on Fox was a different Ford
Moe Factz: that he might he might be moving around but I'm
just saying I know his last name is Ford. You look at I think it
was being Chavis the mayor out here. He was running for
governor out here I think in Maryland. A while back? Um,
yeah. If you look at these politicians, especially the
older older ones, yeah, there is a color is a colorism thing and
Taco Max. AK, aka wasn't what's his name? The it'll come to me
but yeah, he was another show that he said that there's a
there's a light skinned privilege that you can get in
certain rooms. With being light skinned, Colin Kaepernick would
have been seen too. All right, he been a dark skinned person.
Yeah, so there is definitely, colorist is colorism still
allowed as to what colorism is not exclusive to black
Americans? You go to India you go to South America? No, this
tells you did this Latin America. Yeah, anyway, right?
Sure. This goes to show you that everyone's racist is we're
alive. Everybody's racist. Well, when you've been taught, Shaun
King, Shaun King, yes. Thank you. Well, you've been taught
that the image of beauty is this from the mass media.
Adam Curry: Yeah. What does it You're right. Right.
Moe Factz: This is why Black publications are so important.
Because my beauty standards were set by jet beauty of the week,
it was a U turn. So you got the jet was like, let me see what's
going on. You saw women that looked like you, but were
beautiful. And you saw women on perm boxes. That's a bad
example. But hair product bottles that were a
representation of our beauty, not through the lens of
whiteness, and I hate to use that term, I cringe just using
it. But this is, this is how the white lady in the news, I mean,
the news clip we listened to earlier, this is how her minds
may shape because immediately you're a bad USA, you should be
ashamed of who you are. Suddenly, this is what we're
taught. By you know, saying this is real beauty. I mean, Lena
Horn, you know, he was saying like, just keep going down the
list. Our beauty and the older people weren't beauty had
diverse blood, the light skinned first black
Adam Curry: woman I fell in love with was Cleopatra Jones.
Moe Factz: Right? I think that goes.
Adam Curry: A lot of favorites. She goes, it was badass man, she
was so badass.
Moe Factz: And just now we gotta go to darkness, Francis quest
Wilson, and discussed do black people really want to be white,
Unknown: we have been taught under white supremacy to demean
and degrade pigmentation. So that's, that's a mistake that we
can learn from it. Like I was say if you know black people,
black people in this area, were given a choice. I could say
black people all over the planet. And given a choice if
somebody said, Take this pill, and you could become white
tomorrow, that the level of self hate of black people on the
planet has been so great that 90% of black people would want
to become white by tomorrow morning. And you know, we just
have to observe that and say, well, that's fascinating. But we
do understand that we are in a system of racism, white
supremacy. And each time that you turn on the television,
you're getting a dose, a big dose, every time you open a
magazine, every time you open a book, every time you go to a
movie, if you go to a movie, and you just see white people,
you're seeing the negation of black people, because they know
black people. So again, if you know our intelligence, meaning
our ability to understand our environment will go up very
high. This beginning to accurately decode the power
system dynamic in which we find ourselves at this point in time.
Adam Curry: This is actually now one of my favorite clips. We've
talked about what she says supremacy but of course, what we
learned what I learned is white supremacy I find it very
important to to pronounce it differently from Neely fuller
Jr. subarna MiSeq. And what she says here is that really it's
been the elites who have SIOP the world for centuries.
Probably because they own the medium printing press, you know,
etc, etc. all the way through to where we are today. That it has
been the media who have taught us this that lighter skin is
more supreme. And that goes for it goes for white people too.
Moe Factz: Oh, of course. I mean, because there's this
gradient so white, don't get it twisted because blonde hair blue
out white woman, a ginger appearing right? Oh, yeah, even
it's not a whiteness, you know. And when you watch television
shows, the heartthrob and this is going when I was growing up.
The heartthrob had to be the blond haired blue eyed. Now you
know in the group now you had a brown boom there's your
Adam Curry: Aryan race. There's your Hitler's, you know, blond,
blue eyes.
Moe Factz: Cray. This is where this is where it comes from. And
when we go back for people To go back and listen to show 14, I
think we discussed it, that when you lock people into these
tenements and projects, and you put on anything you put through
is the image of white America because And back in those days,
the 60s, you know, you only had two broadcast channels. Yeah.
And you only had Leave It to Beaver and all in the family and
there was no recognition.
Adam Curry: Wonderful people are on their way to the beach.
Right? 60s television.
Moe Factz: That's the thing because this is where they do.
White people are so called white people a disservice. Because
everybody thinks y'all have everything you need. You know,
it does everybody right? Who's rich? You know, on television.
Look at owl, but I'm gonna give you an example. Look at Al
Bundy. He sold shoes. Yeah, he had a two story house. And his
wife didn't work. Shoes. How does that work? You say like,
you know, how does that work? I know it's tribute.
Adam Curry: Psychological Operations, man.
Moe Factz: And another example and the one that we got to move
on is when you watch these house buying shows, you have one lady
likes a part time pottery person. And the guy's like a
teacher in an inner city.
Adam Curry: Yes, yes.
Moe Factz: I know, nearby, like a $600,000. Home. I'm like,
Adam Curry: wait, wait, do they tell me these shows aren't are
fake? No.
Moe Factz: No, what it represents is because we need to
if I was a person that just bought stuff on surface, it's
like how the hell did you say I'm a teacher, and a part time
pottery person about a $600,000 home, right? It just gets Oh,
you know, that's that's privilege. And but the system,
as you said, they own the medium. And this is what they
constantly got to pump out to now. And now what you see is I
was trans everything trans is right, you know, a trans person
go on a shooting spree and we stand with the trend. Yeah,
that's to the point where he, like I say, This is why our
mental health is so important and listen to shows like this
and no agenda because I told you, you know, I was missing the
no agenda show. Yeah. Because you got to hear people talk
about stuff to you know, be the, weaponize it and discuss it in
long form. But yeah, that's the power man. And you know what
comes out of that when you watch that and you're not you're an
outsider looking in low self esteem. Yeah. And we have the
next clip with nearly fuller discussing confusion and self
esteem.
Unknown: Yes, the white supremacist do this in all nine
areas of activity all of the time. Okay. In other words, the
way to confuse people is to lead them to have questions with no
answers. That's what confusion is. Lots of questions with no
answers. Why is this happening? Why is that happening? What are
those people doing over there? Why are they doing it? No, like
I see what in all the areas of activity the white supremacist
say keep those dark skinned people views and that way
confusion brings on what frustration oh you improve your
self esteem by doing things that work. This is what self esteem
comes from doing things that work.
Adam Curry: I mean, he's so smart
Moe Factz: and the reason why I bring you to the show so often
in the back end is going to be heavy with him because logical
is not his emotion is not you know, he's not even come up with
solutions per se. His role is identifying what the problem is,
you know, somebody else has to solve it and really all people
can solve it ourselves. You know, you have to your control
your actions. And this is where seven habits come in for me
because being effective is the only reaction to this system.
That's how you don't get counseled. If you're if you're
constantly effective, so I agree. Um, yeah, so let's go go
you got anything you want to add? Oh,
Adam Curry: no, I just bring me more Neely, fuller, Jr, man,
love him.
Moe Factz: Alright, let's get to the second part of self esteem.
Unknown: That's what self esteem is, doesn't work against you.
Your self esteem starts disappearing, when you are doing
things that are working against you. I mean, it just starts
slowly easing away from you, so that you don't have any left.
But also called self esteem comes from you. You know what to
do you know how to solve problems. So you basically
that's it, problem solving. And that's where self is Same comes
from, when you get through the place, you have a whole lot of
problems, you don't know how to solve them, yourself. And same
goes. And then you just start doing any kind of thing and
started lashing out at anything. Because you're frustrated,
frustrated. Confusion brings about frustration, frustration
brings about all kinds of chaos. And the chaos brings about all
kinds of conflict if you're around other people, because you
will just lash out at everybody, and then eventually lash out
against yourself. That's why we are very toxic when we around
each other. We're frustrated, we're confused. We are angry.
And you know, we just, well, we're gonna take it out on
somebody. We don't want to keep this hidden ourselves upside the
head all day long. So we hit somebody else up that day. Why?
Because they look like us.
Adam Curry: Wow, man. It's just so good. How do we what can what
is him within our power to stop that for everybody? For All?
Obviously it affects everybody. How do we stop that? Besides
Okay, okay, here it is. Yes. Be
Moe Factz: proactive. put first things first, begin with the end
in mind. Synergy, sharpness style. What's that seek first to
understand then be understood? More often? Yeah. But it made
the seven habits because it's, it's what I do. Not not the
environment, not everybody else not there's gonna be this
messianic leader that comes along where he's orange MAN, or
the next MLK or whoever else, I have to be effective. And the
only definition of effective is realizing a goal that's
effective. I have this goal is realized, okay, I solved the
problem. And this is where I don't have one person I go to
for ideology. nearly full I go for him for understanding the
code and the system. You go to other people, you know, Dr.
Wilson, he says what, what solves problems, culture solves
problems. You know, saying like, so this is you have to take
these tidbits of information, put them together and say okay,
it's like, you know, a potluck, you know, let me get a little
bit of this little bit add a little nibble the Nation of
Islam, the way they understand the value of their health and
their appearance. I want some of that, you know, awesome, awesome
guns, you're saying Malcolm X. Let me get some of that and
hopefully this is what's been represented show that I don't
come with one audiology. I come with what sound advice and what
I think works. And you know, and culture is what you do to solve
problems is like if there's a island over there and it's a
bunch of food on it, we need to create a culture to you know,
saying to go and get that food and bring it back you know, so
okay, we might need to be a culture of people that use
moraine you know, like boats, ships, Marines, central culture,
you know, our naval centric culture or you know, that kind
of thing. That's what we do to solve problems. So just just,
that's my opinion, is are they we could do is be effective. And
in Dr. Covey, he laid out the habits, you know, and no,
that's, that's my opinion. Hindsight, and you only you can
solve your problem. Nobody else can solve your problem for you.
Adam Curry: perfect moment to take a little break. Thanks for
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Unknown: new money. I just I don't want any money around me.
It's not I don't want to have a new one than a brand than an old
20 That's kind of dumb. But there's something about new
money that excites you. You like $100 bills? Money. The most
beautiful thing on earth is $100 bill. I haven't seen a woman is
good looking at $100 bill. There's something about a bill
to excite
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Moe Factz: alright so to produce the clips get any video
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Moe Factz: All right, so this is where Scott Adams was right?
Here we go. And I'm back here he's backed up by Mr. Neely.
Fuller, black people should stay away from black people,
according to Neely, fuller, and I support this. But unless it's
one condition going on, and that's if whatever you're
working out is constructive. If he's not constructive, stay
away. And that's what Neely fuller says go ahead and get
into 34.
Unknown: This is to be expected. But we should understand. First
of all, we are programmed this way. Black people are toxic. All
of us are toxic. We are loaded with poison. Because the system
of white supremacy puts that poison in us even before we are
born. And when we are born, we are born into the system of
white supremacy. We're not born into a system of lala land.
We're born into the system of white supremacy, the system of
white supremacy is designed for everyone, including black people
themselves, to have a hostile position, a hostile toward
anything dark, and particularly dark people. That's just the way
the world is run. That's the way the white supremacist set it up
before any of us were born. So we have to first of all know
that so we all carry that poison. It's in us we're not
aware of it. In one sense, you might say I mean then in another
sense we are aware of it but we're ending now.
Adam Curry: Wow. My brain my brain just blew up.
Moe Factz: Toxic. Wow is and unless you're getting together
to be constructive. You should avoid each other and this is
where a validates my school of fish flock of birds with haven't
mentioned in a long time Yeah. But as fish in a school respect
each other's space, they acquiesce and move out of
respect of the other fishes space. Now they're moving
together, where there's a proper distance that's maintained
between each fish. And that's the point why use the the school
of fish because there's no leader. You know, it's, it's,
this is how we're moving, okay, we move to the left, we need to
move up, we need to move down, they move in unison, but they're
not bumping in your sand and knocking in each other know,
when birds fly there, they fly in a formation. And that's the
point I'm saying that we need to be respectful, if you feeling
toxic. Just keep to yourself. Um, there's a brother named Al
Conseco, and he said the three S's is solitude, sobriety and
selflessness. That's the solitude part. You know, if
you're not at your best, you're not going to be constructive,
wherever you're going with the cookout or the party or wherever
else, stay at home. If you're just gonna get together to
gossip, stay at home, you know, and I think a lot of people fall
into this even, especially content creators, that they feel
that they had to talk to say something, but their message is
not constructive. And not being constructive is gonna lead to
disaster. So this is why I said nearly full, according to Neely
Fuller, Scott Adams is right, in the fact that we need to stay
away and that is not the other way for puts it. No contact, no
conflict. Wow.
Unknown: But we have to admit, first of all, we have this
poison. And then we immediately should jump to what do we do
about it? Well, the first thing you do, you don't want poison to
spread. That's, that's a part of physics, the laws of
mathematics. If you've got paws on one hand, you don't want to
poison the spread. How do you keep the poison for spread, you
make sure that every contact that every black person makes
with every other black person has a plan beforehand, to do
something constructive, do our say something constructive. So
we, every time we make contact with anything, we just spread
poison, because we are loaded with poison. And we are
contacting other black people, they are loaded with poison, and
dynamite. And you're gonna get an explosion unless you tailor
and suppress that poison, and tailor it in such a way that
it's kind of shunted off to the side, or it doesn't manifest
itself. I mean, when we make these contexts, so I have it in
the book, the textbook for victims of white supremacy, no
contact, no conflict. If you minimize the contact, you
minimize the conflict.
Adam Curry: Do you think the elites of the world know this?
Know what? Well, I'm just thinking about
Moe Factz: it. We're full of poison. Well, they pop out
poison 24/7. So I'm right,
Adam Curry: but a nude Yes. Yeah. Okay.
Moe Factz: Yeah, no, I'm just I was dead. Adam. I mean, this is
B, they won't you did. Or to agree with him? One of the other
you know, and it's the very, it's very hard to set that fat.
And if somebody won't, if you're not fitting what they think is
supreme, they want you dead, one way or another, you're gonna say
it doesn't matter. So yes, I think they are aware, because
the system is designed, and it this is not happenstance. And at
the bottom is where it materializes, the clearest. And
you know, it is crystal clear. Because when you're frustrated,
you've been taught that you're second class, and you accept the
victimization mentality. And you bring other people here,
anything for instance, like right now in New York, you bring
other people here from other countries, you put them in five
star hotels, you know, and I'm living in a rat infested you
know, squalane tenement you know, steel America, these
tenements are still existent to this day. And you do this? Of
course, like you say, when you ruin my self esteem, because I
haven't seen any results from 60 years of civil rights, no
results. Now I'm frustrated, and frustration turns to lashing
out. And this is why I'll say to Scott Adams, we hate crime as
much just as much as you do this the record labels in the media
companies and make you think we like crime. Yeah, we hate
criminals just as much as anybody else. It's this model
live that all black people are criminals every time they start
talking. The criminal justice system you No. How do we reform
criminal? We you see these, quote unquote, white people
being attacked. And something that tragic and malicious
happens to them. They always say what they had a record. They
shouldn't have been out in the streets. Not Tada, 10 people in
that record, were black people victimized first. Well, you
know, in
Adam Curry: an interesting way, in an interesting way, you're
making a case for the Soros sisters. Because, you know,
because of all of this taking place, black people have had a
bad run of it. And they're always getting blamed for all of
it. So we need to go easy on
Moe Factz: know this, and that's the that's the mess. That's the
media misrepresentation of the facts. Well, I don't want you to
I don't want to be your experiment. I don't want my
neighborhood to be your experiment and say, oh, is
letting felons out?
Adam Curry: No, I agree. I agree. But that's what they're
using.
Moe Factz: Yeah, of course, it makes sense. You're saying if
you look at it that way, but that's, yeah, that's crazy. It's
Don't be confused. They're confused. They know exactly what
they're doing. Just like not to harp on the trans thing. They
knew exactly how it was gonna sound when they came out and
supported trans people after this shooting happened. Right.
They knew how it was gonna be taken. And I want to give one
example of I think people miss understand what's going on this
John? Pierre, whatever her name is.
Adam Curry: Kareem Abdul John Pierre Van Damme?
Moe Factz: Yes, her. She's very good at her job. People say oh,
she's not she's dumb. She's this is that she's there to gaslight,
you. You'll ask her a question. She asked another question
without batting an eye. And what does it do frustrate you to
report you want a part so that he knows this is this is how
they've been dealing with
Adam Curry: how they spin people up particularly white
Republicans.
Moe Factz: But maybe a spinning us up like that? Yes, for a very
long time. Because like I said, they showed us all these cops
shootings the same way. They showed the violent white crimes.
Now, the algorithm force fed this on black people to the
point that they were radicalized, and no, we don't
want crime. And you know what the good thing like Thomas oil
was referring to, there is some change. People are coming out
now say we're not witness crime. And you know what that benefits
crime bill? 2.00? Yeah. Because you know, who asked for the
first crime bill, black people do something about this crime?
And they're like, whoa, aren't you? So it's like the vaccine,
right? I'm just so happy to have some mRNA right here.
Adam Curry: For the problem. Reduction solution.
Moe Factz: Exactly. I just so happened had this crowd build,
it might solve your problem, which is only gonna make the
problem worse, because falling into fathers and this, this goes
through the roof again. I'm just saying like, repeat repeat
history. So and so that leads us right into this thing where they
act like they can't solve the black problem. I'm more than
aware of whenever white supremacy gets tired. Or they
can work you into the corner to ask for what they want to do
already. They already know that they want to do the tricky they
make you ask for. You know, just like just like this, the people
that fear they're super spreaders. And I heard this
firsthand. When are you going to vaccinate these people? What are
you going to force that? Where are you going to start firing
people who've been able to take the vaccine? I heard this Yeah.
out of people's mouths. You were saying people that you weren't
what you thought were you know,
Adam Curry: and the funny thing is pretty reasonable. And you'll
hear people say we're never letting them do that to us
again. And I think though don't worry, you will you will you
Moe Factz: beg for your demise. Yeah.
Adam Curry: take me take me up to a higher level here. Mo I'm
getting depressed
Moe Factz: it this is this is nearly fuller talking about how
they can wrap all gangs up in one afternoon.
Unknown: Yeah, they train it oh, just like they train their black
people. So they you know, they tell black people join a gang.
You want to solve your problems, join a gang, you know, and kill
your neighbors. I mean, your neighbors all look like you.
That's what I want done. So y'all go at it. I'll sit and
read the comic book while you look out the window. Why y'all
doing it? You know? ain't none of you got no sense? I tell you
everything that you need to know. You know, so I'll give you
all guns when you go kill each other. Now if you saw it coming
at me. I mean, you know, you will find out what hell it is
because I'm the inventor of guns. I know all about violence.
You can't teach me nothing about violence. And the white
supremacist talk it Yes, sir. I can wrap all the you all up and
you know it. That's why you don't bother me with that
nonsense over Yeah, across the tracks in the ghetto, none of
you all do bad ones. I mean, with the tattoos and the darks,
AGF you scare each other with that nonsense. You don't scare
me at all. I say they read a comic book behind that nonsense,
and then wrap you up in your whole family, and all your games
put together in one afternoon, and you know it. Why? Because I
am a white supremacist boy, but white supremacist gal, and you
knew it. And I don't have to tell you, you already know this.
Adam Curry: Now break that down. So people understand because I
got it because I've been around you long enough.
Moe Factz: What he's saying is that whenever they want to solve
the problem, or quote unquote, outright crime, a mayhem they
can do it do it in one afternoon, Chicago, Chicago,
what we saw in New York 33 arrests in one day. It was it
Adam Curry: was it was Fox News embedded embedded. Reporter on
the beat with him. Uh huh.
Moe Factz: Well, we go in there and you know what the gangs know
this. I will be honest with you. The people is attacking white
folks, the black people, they crazy. Crazy. I mean, literally,
because every self respecting and black person or you can't go
around hurt white folks and get away with it. So they got to be
crazy. Yeah. I'll be honest with you, because when, and this is
not me saying a criminal says I just went and did a robbery
where you put your head over there and just go in Malibu, or
Beverly Hills or USA or somewhere they supposed to be
the collar criminals I say Are you crazy? You know what kind of
heat they're gonna bring down on us? Seriously, they know their
boundaries. You know, they the criminals know and in the people
who are doing these like pushing people in trains and stuff, they
crazy. Yeah, cuz they know you can you can victimize black
people all day, every day. I make a song about it. Yeah, you
might get a few years if they come looking for you. But as
soon as you heard a white person Oh, no, no, that's not gonna
happen. And not there's a I got Neely fuller back me up with 37
Unknown: That's why you would not think about messing with me.
I don't care how bad you're supposed to be. Prove that
you're bad to each other. I'll let you do that. In fact, I
taught you how to do it. Keep at it. Because that mismatch. Okay,
that's the white supremacist. All the black people out here
robbing and, you know, we know who to rob we know how far we're
gonna have to run. If we rob somebody white or a little
further than you rob it robber St. Robert Nozick you're gonna
have to run you know, you get out there and get a you know,
you can kill four and five black babies all day long. In a
gunfight you kill one white child. And you ain't gonna run
far enough find something to step out. Alright, if you do it
by mistake while you're trying to kill that other negro.
Alright, you made a mistake. And just that white woman's baby in
that carriage. Now you will be willing to fail. But yeah,
Moe Factz: true. So yes, I'm just saying so the criminals
know. But what's happening is you have a spillage and for
several reasons you're having with gentrification people going
into neighborhoods that were typically quote unquote, urban.
And criminals, especially homeless criminals or mentally
ill criminals. They're not leaving. They're terrorists or,
you know, okay, how gentrified it is. And these people are
going to crash collision, because you remember, let's go
back to 1350. mean 30% of the people do 50% of the crimes, but
90% of that 50% is done against people who look like them.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's interesting or higher. You can
see now that the like gentrified East Austin, cops won't even go
there. Correct. That won't even go because you know
Moe Factz: why? Because the main people that were gentrified was
one they want to defund the police will show you blue flu,
flu. What he wants to do, he wants to come out here and
mediate. Now we don't do that you call us and you're saying to
get it pick up the dead body. Yeah. And that's how they look
at it. And there's another thing that I mentioned before, but
this is one of the strategies of confusion, and it's called White
sacrifice. I know people looking at me, like mo there's real
crime happening against white people. And I'm like, Yeah, I
know. And it's used as a purpose is called White sacrifice and
Neely fuller is gonna explain it in the next clip,
Unknown: racial white sacrifice, confusion, white sacrifice, yes.
Meaning when you drive down the street and you're looking at
your car window, you'll see some white people on park benches,
you see some white people who are out there barefoot in the
wintertime. And you see some white people walking around
talking to themselves and whatnot, and don't have
anything. I mean, and you say, Oh, this is racism is over.
Because look, if you got white people who are poor, you got
white people who don't have anything, you got white people
who are suffering, just like black people. So it's not
racism, it must be something else. No, the white supremacist
operate on a percentage basis. They know that and they even put
up have they put in position in the path of danger by a certain
segment of white people, they'll just pick off white people, so
to speak, and destroy them under the bus to distract non white
people to thinking that racism doesn't exist. But they do it on
a percentage basis. See, for every 10,000 black people to
take kill, they'll kill 10 white people and say, See, you know,
it's not about race. I mean, you know, I mean, people just out
here killing people. That's all it is.
Moe Factz: White sacrifice and greatest example, that is the
January 6 prisoners.
Adam Curry: outstanding example.
Moe Factz: Criminal Justice, nobody would come to say it
nice. They're still in jail.
Adam Curry: But I noticed and if you notice, they let the
ringleader so called ringleader the shaman, they let them out?
Yeah, same day 45 was indicted. You know, kind of make sure we
don't talk about it.
Moe Factz: Correct. When I'm just investors what and it's
something I didn't put it in the show but I just want to address
it because this goes back to those black people in the 60s
that was making it the system has to gas gas gas and brake,
they have white sacrifice on one hand it shows white people in
the White appearing people in a bad light. Right just show that
there can't be any racism because white people are being
affected too. Right? And at the same time they use this thing
called racial showcasing where while we're putting white people
down some a segment we're lifting up a segment of black
people to say all we've got right billionaire rappers you
know Bill billionaire billionaires, billionaire black
billionaires, everywhere, you can't you just trip over them.
It's so many black billionaires to start with say, see, it's
because you didn't do you didn't lift yourself up. That's the
problem. You know, and they do these two things simultaneously.
And I'm gonna give you a great exam called prot you probably
seen it the hearing of this aviation whatever.
Adam Curry: Oh, the black guy high high you know people like
you got to play this you got it. I said, you know, there's
something so wrong about what's going on right here with this
guy. The way the way that
Moe Factz: black people don't for the fall all black people
about to take the fall. Like No Other fall you ever seen more
dependent?
Adam Curry: This guy? I mean, he he was nominated for FAA. When
not Commissioner, Administrator, yeah. And he has 00 aviation
experience he have never worked in an airport has never, he
probably hasn't even flown that much. And I gotta tell you the
questions that were being asked as a as an airman as a pilot, I
had to look a few of them up. This was bullshit. It was it was
but it was really so raw.
Moe Factz: And tandem, that was white sacrifice and black
showcasing all in one because I'm sure that a white person out
there is more qualified than him. I'm sure there's a black
person more qualified than him out there. But they highlight it
to show you. We're going to highlight somebody who's
incompetent in their field. I don't know that man's past. I
don't know his history you're saying but in that field, he
sounded very incompetent. And how they presented him this do
Aven Brent brags or whatever his name is the same thing. Have you
noticed everybody's ground taking Trump down as black all
of a sudden, everybody and what's interesting over
represent they're over represented. And what's
interesting is in, in white right wing media is being
represented as Dei.
Adam Curry: That's the issue. Like, reverse racism. wokeness
wokeness, wokeness like, oh, I'll just wait people.
Moe Factz: Where do these people come from all of a sudden, why
are they being set up? Take the fall. All, you know, I mean not
not to get into the details of it. I'm just everywhere you
look, the Vice President, even the president, he's incompetent.
Everybody's incompetent by design. Yeah. So when it's all
said and done, they can do just like they did with the war in
the Middle East, we didn't know, we didn't know, they didn't have
massive weapons of mass destruction. Everybody gets
rich, nobody goes to jail, we didn't know. And Colin Powell
gets left holding the bag,
Adam Curry: holding the little file,
Moe Factz: don't drop that cake.
Adam Curry: I tell you're gonna lift me up Mo.
Moe Factz: As far as I am, because I like it. At the end of
the day, the powers within us, of course, you change. You can
only change you. And once you realize there's a cost of
racism, it should be an incentive to want to change.
Adam Curry: I sure hope people listen, I sure hope they do.
Moe Factz: And let's hear about that cost in the racism. This is
John H Bracy. And I think it's a it's a very telling clip, to
wrap it up, you know,
Unknown: so that was fun and more effective to say that
racism is not free for anybody, you know, if you paid a price,
you know, for what has happened to African American people, that
you're not getting off scot free. And that if you still
believe in white supremacy, or any hints of white supremacy,
and not at the absolute top of the socialist, you got to go
looking for somebody to be mad at. Because the benefits of
being a white person are like, shrinking and shrinking and
shrinking to be an ordinary white person, regular white
person, you know, not a wealthy rich rapists. And so the payoff
for white supremacy, you know, the clientele for that payoff is
getting smaller and smaller and smaller, you know, and in a
sense, the majority of the white American population is dropping
down to where black people are, you know, which is to say, your
unemployment rate, you know, your living conditions, your
level of debt, you know, your level of social anxiety is
coming down to where we are. And I would like to say, welcome to
The Club. Misery loves company.
Adam Curry: I would say I see that all everywhere around me.
Absolutely. 105 by 510 by 10. completely true. And people
don't see it, and they're blaming it on the wrong things.
Moe Factz: Yeah, so I mean, but I have faith that the further
further they back us into this corner, you know, is going to
create some kind of understanding, and which is seek
first to understand then to be understood, this is what this
for your conversation has been with me and you that I pick your
brain, you pick my brain, you fill in some blanks for me, I
fill in some blanks for you, and we become better people out of
it, which makes us you know, Santa's more likely to be
effective. So, but there is a cost of racism, there is a cost
is like we need to assess is it worth it? Or do we need to go
with a system of justice? Well, also,
Adam Curry: I hope everyone looks at us. We're free men.
We're American men. We don't take no crap. Nope. If you don't
mind, I think that's exactly that's part of it. You know, and
we are always trying to be productive together.
Moe Factz: That's the whole goal of so that's my wrap on Mr.
Scott Adams, and used to give some sand in the background and
hopefully here's the show. And he has a better understanding
because I'm speaking to reach not to be right. So
Adam Curry: I hope well, we're looking forward to hearing from
Scott TP might someone's someone's gonna send him this
hill. Listen, I'm sure he will.
Moe Factz: I hope so. And as I always say, pay attention to
everything and the truth will reveal itself
Adam Curry: and we will reveal ourselves once again. On Episode
92, which would be in a couple of weeks we'll try and let you
know ahead of time. Please remember us mo facts.com mov fu
nd me.com For mo funmi.com mo thank you so much man. I enjoyed
it as always.
Moe Factz: Thank you as well Adam,
Adam Curry: and we'll talk to you very soon right here on mo
fax with Adam curry and tell them Take care everybody bye bye
Unknown: bye bad attitude plan tell him out of more. No need
for shame. I get mochi said slow speeds. gonna beat the game
you're in control freak it's cold in my veins I'm below
freezing snow season made me that note that our Sony must
face don't wanna grow also a smoke just in case. She saved me
that global load of waste in the stroke that's just so got a
little bit of space since che sent last night yet maybe right
around the corner but I swear stormy waters in May if you're
somewhere above you can breach and
that's really all it takes we don't need them but tonight
tonight world is so small today night building up a break. Break
and she paid it when I come in it's late and it's late and it's
late I don't
nine times out of 10 I get it wrong. So I wrote this song tell
myself to hold on. I can feel my finger slipping in a
motherfucking instant not be gone. Do you want it left for
some mediocre? staring at the wall and a wall full of posters?
Looking at my dreams? Who won't want to be I guess you got to
see it who have been fooled but it's cool that's what human
beings to keep your eyes to the sky never glued to your shoes. I
guess there was a time when my mind was concerned with the sun
coming down now. Cloud storage don't tell me nothing but the
truth. I'm tired. I don't gotta spare second. When it knows what
it knows, I don't keep counting