Adam Curry: mo fax with Adam curry for February 20 2023.
Episode number 90 Adam curry coming to you from the heart of
the Texas Hill Country time once again to spin the Wheel of
topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my
friend on the other end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mole facts. I
know Adam, I am good Moe, how about yourself? I'm doing well,
man. It's been. It's been an interesting couple of weeks. I
have missed our little chats to be honest.
Unknown: I have it well.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And so today, I think I think what's happened
is I think the good Lord has told me I got to cost less and
maybe just listen more. So he gave me a nice oral surgery
yesterday. So, if I if I start slipping or talk slowly, then
everyone knows what's going on. Okay, because it only hurts when
I laugh. So don't you do well,
Unknown: this might not be the show.
Adam Curry: It's happened already.
Unknown: I apologize in advance.
Adam Curry: I'm very, very excited. Let's spin the wheel of
topics. Here we have Okay. All right. There we go round and
round the Wheel of topics goes where it stops. Nobody knows.
But of course Moe knows because he put it all together the topic
for Moe facts with Adam curry. Episode number 90 is big tech
isn't bad with big con. Ah, Crowder. Interesting. Okay.
Well, I know a little bit about this. I followed that story
somewhat.
Unknown: I'm glad you did, I thought was one of the most
fascinating stories at the time. And it was the MCAT or the what
do you call it the cap on the top or something the capstone of
a previous show I had, you know, teased. And you force my hand it
was on the Yeti versus de show. Yeah. When we got into the
Candace Owens being you know, trying to pony up again. Beside
yay. Yes. You forced my hand in, in spectacular podcast fashion.
Adam Curry: What did I don't remember? What
Unknown: did I do? I was just hanging around the edges with
her and Kanye and what she might be up to? Yeah. And you were
like, You were kept going like you kept pulling the strings.
Come on. Right. Because I saw this coming. I saw big con, to
being big conservative media being looking for opportunities
to increase the market share. And that's what her move I
thought was because she was going to tell the off code
against the daily wire for yay. And yeah, it
Adam Curry: didn't last very long, though.
Unknown: No, because he went for he went for yay. And she she
couldn't go there.
Adam Curry: No, of course not. Because she works for daily
wire. You can't go full yay. When it comes down to the Zinus.
globalists.
Unknown: Well, the thing was, she was willing to go with yay,
where he was going. But where he took it on the Alex Jones Show.
Yeah, that gets you ostracized from your social circles. And
that's really one of the pressures right? I mean,
everybody will make moves for money. But when you become
ostracized and shunned from your social circles, or that's a
threat, then that you know, that's another level of
canceling if which I think she didn't want to deal with and
then the parlor deal dried up mysteriously
Adam Curry: that was gonna happen like, that seems unlikely
that would that would didn't think that would complete.
Unknown: So just as that's where we're going with this show, we
want to look into that whole dynamic of what's going on.
We're gonna go circle back to yeh, because it has something to
do with what he was like the contract thing, right? It's
because you're aware, somewhat of what's going on to Steven
Crowder and daily wire situation and we're gonna get into, you
know, maybe Operation Paperclip, so Mockingbird Excuse me. machi.
Adam Curry: Justice. Good, justice. Good. So I guess what
Unknown: we need to do now is just get the background and for
people that were not in the know and start with clip number two,
there's some drama unfolding in the world of conservative media.
conservative media commentator Steven Crowder, sort of YouTube
personality has accused Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens daily
wire of being in bed with big tech. So here's what happened.
Steven Crowder, so YouTube conservative who was formerly
affiliated with the blaze, he's on his own now, and apparently
the daily wire reached out to him with an offer to acquire him
and to host his show going forward. Crowder hated In the
terms of that agreement, he said they were going to penalize him
for if he ever got demonetised on YouTube or other platforms,
they were going to start subtracting money from the
contract.
Adam Curry: That's, that's a little bit of an abbreviation.
Right? Don't know, the reason I was gonna say is because Crowder
and I did follow this. And I found, you know, highly
interesting. And I have a lot of thoughts about daily wire. But
Crowder, he said he had problems with with a deal that was
offered to him. He didn't say who it was, it was the daily
wire. I forget the guy's name, the boring, boring. Yes. Jeremy,
Jeremy, boring. He's the one that came out and said, Oh, hold
on a second. This was our contract. Let me tell you what's
really going on. And then the tit for tat went back and forth.
So it wasn't initially Crowder. Who who mentioned daily wire, if
I'm, if I recall correctly,
Unknown: that that is correct. That is correct. And just as a
side note, you know, they say like your last name was what
your forefathers did, you know, like, are boring. So boring.
That fits you I tried to use him as a clip, but not as Oh, man,
because he went over the contract. And we've seen line by
line, but it was a snoozer, so I just couldn't do it. He's
appropriately the name. So I mean, yes, you're right. Steven
Crowder, didn't come out and say it was like a blind item, who he
was talking about. But I guess daily wire, kind of wanted to,
you know, jump out in front of it. And they, you know, they
outdone themselves. Well,
Adam Curry: I mean, I don't know if it's, I don't know if this is
too much goggles. But the reason boring did that was all
positioning about their company, because they have a very set
direction, which is not even doesn't really even involve
Shapiro anymore. I mean, this guy wants to do wants to do
movies, and, you know, which is what he's always been,
Unknown: you know, right. And this is why I wanted to do this
show with you, because this is the counter narrative to value
for value. So I know you were all over it. And it just exposes
the, you know, the red tape that comes along with these
contracts. So I was excited to do this show. And like I said,
it was a great Capstone with this happening. And it's amazing
how these things go that you think you have the show done.
Well, I think I have the show done. And then this gift falls
from the sky illustrates exactly what is illustrate exactly what
I was talking about. So I guess we'll go ahead and get into clip
number three.
Here's Steven Crowder talking about it. They don't get deals
that basically waste slaves for a little bit, come over and make
a salary and grow their brand. The waist race for a little bit.
A little bit. So Steven Crowder, got on the phone with Jeremy
whoring who is daily wire co creator of it with Ben Shapiro
and surreptitiously recorded him, which is pretty wild,
because they were very good friends previously recorded him
saying that line about what you would be if you were a young
coming up conservative, you know, starting out, and you have
to be a wage slave for a little bit. Missing in all this was
that the contract they offered Steven Crowder, $50 million
over, I believe, three years. Wow,
Adam Curry: more context here as well.
Unknown: Please add all the contracts you need. And this is
this is gonna be a great opportunity, what you heard what
I heard and what they're reporting. So please fill in the
gaps where you see necessary.
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll kind of go to the conclusion. Because
what is going on here is Crowder already has a he has a staff of
20. He has he has a real business, whatever. I'm not sure
exactly what happened with the blades, but I know that he was
looking, in fact looking to possibly do a value for value
play I heard directly from some of his staff members. But he
already does a version of that because he has a reported, I
think 300,000 members of the mug Club, which means there's
300,000 letters, even if it's 100,000 people who are paying
him monthly. So he's got a very nice income already without the
necessity for advertising and the contract that was offered
actually really made him a wage slave that's that's in my
opinion, doesn't matter how much the wage is your wage slave if
there's if you're set to a schedule, you know, if there's
certain things you have to do certain targets you have to hit
which is why I prefer doing full value for value. No, I don't
make the money Crowder does but at the same time on my own man,
I can do whatever I want. Now the thing that I find baffling
is that Crowder is making a big deal of this type of contract.
And at the same time, he was kind of offering people to join
him or become a part of perhaps his network that he may want to
build. And this is, and I may be wrong about that. But that's the
way you know, the way I heard it and what he didn't like about,
you know, the that what am I going to leave everybody who
comes after me. And I just want to say very clearly the you
can't monetize the network. So I don't know what Crowder is
thinking of, but he should just do whatever he wants to do on
his own. And he doesn't really need just looking at the money
the way it breaks down. I don't think he really needs the $50
million over, you know, over three years or four years, or
whatever it was, I think he's doing just fine. And I think
there's, there's more behind it from him personally, as well.
It's not coming out right yet. Or maybe I've lost track of it
and hope. Well, I know one thing, your analysis is going to
be going to be fantastic. So I'm waiting for you have to say.
Unknown: So the takeaways I have from it. And this is just a high
level, like the the media narrative that we're discussing.
One is, I think he saw a chance to jump into the game and become
a blazed to become a media. Daily Mail, excuse me, daily
wire means to me daily wire. Agreed, agreed. So it was me
record him saying yeah, you're gonna be away slay wish, let's
start right there at the recording, because even his
crowd was split on this is that we don't seek or record people.
That was kind of bad business. You know, it was because, you
know, with the conservative thought process, we do things
upstanding and we don't do underhanded things like that.
But at the same time, they're big fans of Project Veritas.
Yeah, make make that job where
Adam Curry: they literally, you know, get a guy in a gay date
and try to get everything out of him, which is also pretty low
when it when it comes to you know, honey potting somebody,
Unknown: right, with the sacred quarter and split hairs hurt. I
wouldn't say 5050 I would say maybe 80 20% was kind of like
that's kind of off, you know, off script to read, be recording
people, but he saw his opportunity say, Look, they're
trying to make you waste slaves. Yeah. And I won't do that. Come
join us. And I'll give you a fair deal. You know, that kind
of
Adam Curry: that doesn't sit well with me. It's like do your
own show do you don't have to be a network. That's just my
personal experience, really not even opinion, experience. And
it's very hard to make it work.
Unknown: Well, this is how rat works. And this is why I found
it fascinating. When you talk about yay. And what he was going
through. This is how it works. Big labels sign up and coming
artists that we put the machine behind you. But we can dictate
your career. And we get what's called a 360, which is you know,
saying we make money off for all your money. And that's one of
the things you didn't bring up was. I think that Steven Crowder
wouldn't own his any documentaries that he made, he
would get paid for him. But he went on, you know, the rights to
it,
Adam Curry: not even the shows that he would make on their
behalf even the show. So basically, if you want to use
that analog, all the publishing would be with daily wire.
Unknown: Correct, which this is a wonderful. Just aligning of
what's happening in hip hop, what was happening, wait, yay.
And now we're seeing these kinds of contracts, good PR, coming
into the content creation. And
Adam Curry: if I can just interrupt for one second, when
we started pod show 2006. And we raised a lot of money from
venture capital do it, we did exactly the same thing. In fact,
we were not we were not shy about it. We said this is very
much like a record, like a band, we're now going to sign them to
their own label, we set them all up with an LLC, we gave them a
guaranteed amount of money. Not that not that we thought today
would go on to create sub labels, but they could be their
own their own entrepreneur. But absolutely, we we own certain
rights. And there's really no other way to do it. Unless you
go full on value for value. That's the only way you can do
it.
Unknown: And I agree and the sub sub narrative who all of this
this is my new but these are saying people like oh slavery,
slavery, this slavery that and then there's kicking and
screaming about becoming wage slaves, but my girls Yes. So I
thought that would be that's the first thing I took away from
like, I didn't really talking about slavery. Everything that
comes out or both or their organization is like, oh, slave
deniers, even to the point where I think maj Turay and one of the
guys from the daily The Wire had gotten into it over the
continuing narrative of slavery, but we're not going to go there.
I just wanted to bring that up. But now we got to get to know
the fuller, I gotta say this before you even play the clip. I
know some people may our role, and why is he always talking
about white supremacy? Is because it's effective. If you
say that term and it makes people kind of that's mean,
we're getting somewhere, would they say when you're receiving
Flack? You're over the target. And that's right. So I want to
say that so this nearly four o'clock I set up a little bit.
This is him explaining how white supremacy takes both sides of
the argument.
Want to make this very, very clear. This morning? In 2017,
oh, gosh, the white supremacist have various skill at the art
science code of deception. All right, and they are the best
strategies and strategies in the world for dominating and
mistreating people. And part of that strategy, a key part is to
do what what did I say earlier in this program. If some of you
were with this program at the beginning to date, I said it
over and over again. And I'm gonna end up this program saying
it the white supremacist, take all sides of every argument,
when it comes to people of color, show that they have
positioned themselves to have, in the end, the same strength or
greater strength than they had before the argument started.
Adam Curry: All right. And of course, I always love how he
says supremacists, not supremacists, but supremacists,
which I think is is subtle, but makes a difference.
Unknown: Yes, it is. And people of color I'm talking about right
now is the orange people.
Adam Curry: rose colored people.
Unknown: I've roasted soljet before and this is a teaser of
upcoming show. Carville, did you hear what he said? When about
being white trash? No, no, I guess I missed that. Oh, yeah.
When he was talking about MTG martyrs, he flat out Carter
white trash. This is where we're at. And I'm telling you, they're
starting to push the orange people and to the people of
color category. And in doing that, this is what you need to
co op the media of the orange people. This you see what I'm
going
Adam Curry: to first of all, yes, because 9089 episodes ago,
it was the first time you said to me, Adam, just coming for us
first.
Unknown: And here we are. Here we do a full throated Hicks said
he's a well known I'm gonna just gonna tease that because that's
going to be upcoming show. So get ready for it. But that just
proved my head to lay that out there to say, the reason why
they have the COA and that they in this it's big tech. And you
know, whoever big tech works for us, and you can fill in the
blanks with that, um, they can't let conservative or alt media be
free. No, we have to go in we have to co opt it. We have to
get all the rising stars in the contract. That way we can say if
you step foul of whatever big tech says, you won't get paid or
you won't get paid as much as you possibly can. Which is this
is just nothing but infiltration.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Yes, I would concur.
Unknown: So So I guess we can wrap up with the second part of
the nearly full Eclipse just so I want everybody know, they take
all sides, not both sides. Even though the third or fourth side,
they say all sides of the argument.
emphasize that again. They are very, very scientific and taken
all the they position their people on all sides of not just
two sides, three sides. If there's an argument of any kind,
religious argument, political argument, educational argument,
they position themselves on all sides, every facet of every
argument Don't forget that. Like the Godfather, trying to tell
Michael I mean, you know, whoever comes to you and set up
this meeting, so trader Don't forget that.
And we got to see who's the trader in this situation
Adam Curry: who okay
Unknown: We got one handing out a contract with stipulations a
big tech, but then we also have some minor secret recording
some, which is very off code. There was a you know, like, oh,
a code of conduct amongst these people meanwhile, which which is
a farce. I mean, I'm saying, Well,
Adam Curry: yeah, but meanwhile we don't know. We don't even
know what happened with the blaze. We don't really know why
Crowder, left Dewey?
Unknown: Well, the blaze the blaze.
Adam Curry: Let me let me give it a try. Just just looking at J
lock 100. It's a control mechanism.
Unknown: Jet. Yeah, that it is. But you got to remember that the
blaze Aang and Glenn Beck were 18 Never Trumpers sure to begin
with. And I think maybe that's Crowder wasn't down with that he
saw that wasn't a winning strategy. And that might be a
reason why he broke away from it. And let me just be honest,
this whole conservative beef is nothing new. I've been around
these circles for a long time. I remember Glenn Beck and Alex
Jones, we're going at it. They were saying heavy. Now they
patched up because they gotta realize, you know, kind of like
the Avengers movie with Thanos is coming. So you know the good
guys and the bad guys, whoever you want, say good or bad. It
has to team up together and fight is far bigger threat. So
this is nothing new.
Adam Curry: No, I mean, I when I did the Glenn Beck show when he
interviewed me. And then like, three or four days later, he
said, Hey, you know, I want to I want you to do every Friday on
the radio show. You know, there was clearly like, hey, why don't
you come and join like a soft hand join us type thing. And I
didn't want that. I felt immediately like and that's
that's quite the operation, man. They got so much going on there.
Unknown: Is this you brought up Whitlock? See. This is what I
was talking about these subtle things you do? And he's like,
because you did it with the previous show it yay. He's like,
I gotta hop out of here. Say you got me. You got Whitlock this
week. The guy over value tainment invited Whitlock Oh
yeah, that guy. There was some drama with that.
Adam Curry: Said valiant David bet. Is that that guy? Yes.
That's him. I missed the drama. I didn't see the drama. What?
Unknown: Yeah, he about it. Whitlock and then he tried to
blindside Whitlock with bringing on what's that guy from the blue
light. Um, rah rah Roland Martin. Ron Martin. Oh, wow.
Yeah, okay. He didn't tell him it was gonna be a panel. But
then he's like, Oh, why you're here. I got a panel. In Whitlock
thought he was going to be on like a one on one kind of
interview. And it became his whole thing. But it was like,
you know, I can say what I want to say he was just trying to
pick two black people together. And by the end of the week, he
had to reassure how conservative he was. Because in that rant, he
was I'm not conservative. I'm not there's nothing nobody can
own me. And then by the end of the week, he had to re assure he
was so yeah, this is the Yeah, it is. You got to be careful
when you sign these contracts. Because he if for me, this is
take him out for me. If I would have signed when these
contracts, I understand they were like MO You can never talk
about reparations again, in a positive light. Right? You know,
as a conservative, there are certain things you just can't
say. And that's one of them. White supremacy gotta go. You
gotta fight you globalist you who
Adam Curry: are not that yeah,
Unknown: yes. So I'm just telling you so yeah. So good
point. You're right. And it's amazing. They tried to get you
on the couch right? Hey curry Oh, we want to get you in the
car talking
Adam Curry: about and I felt it right away and just like no, I'd
be happy to come Don't don't pay me if you want me to come on.
I'll be happy to talk when it's great. It's great for my show.
blamed for everything I do. So he gets some exposure and that
and he has called me a couple of times but then again, it was
like I can't remember what it was it was like some crazy
conspiracy theories theory he was like yeah, call Korea Mike
now and I'm not gonna do that. I'm not just here for the for
the nutjob stuff. But I appreciate that. Well, yeah,
that's who I am but but that's not my friend. I guess it is my
brand really what am I saying? But
Unknown: what better brand is it though? We talk about lizard
people. We can talk about anything we can shut us up.
Adam Curry: lizard people.
Unknown: All right. Thanks to thanks to the people value for
value. Thank you. And that's what that's the like the the
moral of This story, we had to say it before the story is over.
The producers allow us to say all the things that we say and
not be filtered or monitored or you know, nudge, they say, Oh
no, if you want to put it that way,
Adam Curry: very powerful for us. Very empowering.
Unknown: Very, very much. So. So now we got to go back to the
heel, and this is the summary. Let's go and get to number four
$50 million over I believe, three years, which is a whole
lot of money. Here's Candice Owen responding to the debacle
on Timberwolves podcast.
Oh, LOL to anyone who thinks that Steven Crowder is not doing
this to make money. Like I mean, I just have to outwardly laugh.
He's He's the person in the sky. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing,
right? He's he's like, I'm not I'm here, because I care about
all of you. That's why I'm recording my friend and doing
this crappy thing where I literally could have just said,
No, I don't like those terms. And then said to everybody, I'm
starting my own outfit. Fair. You walk away all the time. You
have to go you will I have walked away. You know, I had an
offer from the blades. It didn't work for me. You know what? I
don't need to piece apart the contract. I love those guys. I
think Tyler is amazing. This is what I'm saying that people need
to stop thinking that he is some knight in shining armor. He's
not he's not a knight in shining armor. And if you can't see
that, watch this video because I think his acting is never more
apparent. Even the titles. I didn't want to do this. Oh,
really? Then why the hell did you record them?
Adam Curry: You know, I felt very bad for Candace Owens when
when I saw this. First of all, I don't understand the appeal of
Tim Poole. That's, that's not my they've invited me I'm like,
Nah, it's okay, man. I'm cool. I don't. It's the it's always
boring. To me. It feels a lot of very inside the stuff that they
do back and forth. It feels like I'm listening to Twitter most of
the time. And for Candace Owen, who was who was tripping over
her words, it to me it was oh, man, they sent you to do this.
Really? That's how it felt to me.
Unknown: Where's my bell?
Bell? Bell? Well,
thank you. Thank you. My bill, you came to
Adam Curry: the to the show without your bell. It's just
very um, no.
Unknown: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sounds good. Yes. But that's
exactly what happened. And let me explain to you how I took it.
The way she jumped out the window for you.
Adam Curry: Love that phrase.
Unknown: Right away, she went back down. And she like I'm
writing what, yay, he's my friend. And I'm not going to
choose between, you know, my job and my friend. And when he left
her high and dry, or she couldn't go where he was trying
to take it. Now. It's like, Candace, you know what you got
to do? You got to go out here. You got to Kate like nobody's
business. And that's what this was. Because she was on her
channel. She was on Tim pools channel, calling him a B. Tch.
And which I felt was very unbecoming. You know, I don't
like when women do that to men, because those are fighting
words. And, like, what are you doing? You know, it's not like
you shouldn't use words, if you don't want to actual fight. I
don't I don't like when people do that.
Adam Curry: I think she was looking for a fight.
Unknown: Oh, yeah, she was looking for look for a response.
So they can say, oh, looking at my tacking the black woman, you
know, it's like they want everybody goes a group. I found
this to be one of the most fascinating situations because
everything they claim they stand for a window.
Adam Curry: And that's thank you for bringing for doing this
because I really, you know, me, I'm a white guy. So I didn't I
didn't like that didn't register that way to me immediately. But
I guess deeper. It's like, Oh, okay. It was very it because I
was looking at from the money angle. And like, you know,
here's what I say, Candace, you got easy talking, you know, your
husband's got, he's got a good job. He's got cash, you know,
he's he's involved in higher levels of finance and
technology. So you gotta you gotta easy easy talking, you
know, it's like, if she loses her job, it's not the end of the
world necessarily for their family. And you know, she got
one or two kids now.
Unknown: And it's for her though.
Adam Curry: Right? But she but her scruples are very low in my
book already, because when she went all in on the freedom
phone, which, you know, without any research without, I mean, I
immediately saw through this, this is a scam has gotten I
didn't get anything special. And you know, she was advertised she
got paid to advertise it and she was real cagey about that. Or,
like, you know, I don't just take money from any outfit. Yes,
you do.
Unknown: Yes. You do. You do. Like her credit. Oprah.
Oh, wow. Boo.
I keep telling you. She wants to be the case or Oprah. That's the
whole thing. And that's she tried to get off of the
conservative train. hamster wheel with yay. Because she
wanted to go to the wider culture and what's the thing is
she has think on her that would never wash away. The way she
handled the whole black lives matter. Riots, saying they were
chipping out, and how she handled the George Floyd thing
not being sensitive, and I don't use that as Oh, she should have
been catered for George Floyd. But there's a time and a place
and how you carry things if you if you want to have a wider
audience, and she kind of slammed the door on that the way
she handled it. And even for the Superbowl, she's like, I don't
see anything wrong with Brianna's performance to try to
get that. And she did the same thing with the Super
Adam Curry: Bowl performance. Yes. She's Red Queen, rising,
fleas, fleas, and that was the most Satanic Illuminati thing
I've seen in a while.
Unknown: Is that the spiral dancing at all? And then the
triangle
Adam Curry: at the end, which they tried to take off the TV,
but we all saw it. We saw the shoot through the Illuminati
triangle.
Unknown: Correct. And what's even for Candace Oh, I didn't
see anything wrong with it. It was a great show. I disagree
with Trump. You know, that kind of thing. And she was my whole
point is she's trying to cut her way into mainstream culture.
That's that's her wish she's trying. I think her and boring
have the same
Adam Curry: blemishes mission and initial mission.
Unknown: Yes. We're not politics. That's why I think you
said they're going away from Well, yeah. micro machine, man.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Are they going towards movies? And I think that
that will be a very Oprah ish move. She wants to go into the
big time with movies. And you know, and of course, they
already do books. Right? Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, I can see
that. Well, she she she got a long way to go. If she wants to
be Oprah. Oprah is sophisticated.
Unknown: In her ways.
Yeah. And her and her madness. Yeah, that's
Adam Curry: what I mean. Yes. Yeah. No, it's actually horrible
person, but she's sophisticated in how she does it.
Unknown: I have no qualms with your statement. Ah, let's go
ahead and get into the number six part of this daily wire
situation.
Adam Curry: I still have clip five. Number five. Okay, gotcha.
Unknown: Gotcha. I'm sure you would do this job for a mere $40
million dollars. Right.
Of course, of course. You know, I think this is such an
interesting story. Because first of all, did he not think that
the $50 million was going to like that the first thing the
daily wire was going to do was sort of leaked that. I mean,
like, where did he think this was going? I also had this
feeling watching the the Candace Owens rant like I had the same
feeling I had when Elon Musk put out his proposal for how to end
the war in Ukraine, which I thought was a really good
proposal. And everybody started attacking him and trashing him
and I was just thinking don't make me Don't make me defend
this guy. Don't make me be on his side. And I felt that way
watching this, you know, Candace Owens video she was absolutely
right. And it was interesting to see her coming out and set you
know, swinging on in support of the de wire. Yes, she works
there but they had a whole kerfuffle over Kanye West if you
recall, she kept defending Kanye and defending him and defending
him even as his sort of commentary became more and more
anti semitic until he ended up defending Nazis. And she you
know, she kept saying look, I'm not going to denounce my friend
which you know, fair point but it made the wire look very bad
because you know, Ben Shapiro was getting a lot of flack for
that. So you know, it seems that you know, at that point you
know, that whatever happened there you know, I'm sure they
were happy to see her coming out you know, in full defense of the
platform.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, I'm so glad we're doing the show now and
that we got delayed doing this so you know, we're so we're not
we don't eat there's no way you can accuse us of jumping on the
pile. We're really dissecting the bull crap that's going on
here and and even how this this girl says was still heat until
he started defending Nazis. Okay. When I hear this just like
look like like, you gotta have aI voice on Twitter. That's how
I hear these things. And the
Unknown: funny thing about it was the these are liberal
reporters or journalists. It's just a Hill talking heads. Yes,
the heels. So they are shocked that Crowder is worth $50
million or more. That's the thing that really got
Adam Curry: that pisses him off like why we're working here for
a buck. Like Buck 10
Unknown: If that right, yeah, exactly. It's like he's worth 50
mil that that miss that kind of money in the RED media. And that
makes them starting to look at they look different. Yeah. I
might flip for a few million dollars speaking out for them.
But yes, like she she pointed out that the whole everybody
knew Candace Owens was off code as far as not writing for her
employer. And that's why I will say that They made her go out
and earn her keep. And that's how I saw it. It might not be
that way but that's how I saw it. And this just confirms that
the whoever he was doing a talk I forget her name saw the same
thing I saw, but that's what Candice won't say in one way or
the what she said Don't make me agree with Candace Owens you
know this is I've seen this kind of mean pop up like don't make
it came up when she was supportive Magda stallion and
the whole shooting situation Yeah, she took make side right.
And night I write with all the people that quote unquote hate
Candace Owens was like, don't make me agree with Candace
Owens. Why are you doing this to me? Why are you making me agree
with her? So that's common is a whole it's a whole talking
point. Interesting. And she even repeated it there in the clip.
So yeah, um, so I guess now we talked enough about candidates,
I guess we can go jump right in and listen to her word for word
unless you got something. No, no, I'm
Adam Curry: good. Let's go to word for word.
Unknown: At the end of the day. I think what happened? This is
my completely my opinion, by the way. So I'm not blinking twice,
not under duress. Is that see? Because I became a free agent.
And
Adam Curry: I'm not blinking twice under duress. In other
words, yeah, you are you were told to say like, I wasn't what
she's saying. There's I wasn't told to say this. But of course,
but of course you were Candice. That's why you said I've been
around. I'm old. Now. I know how this
Unknown: day. I think what happened? This is my completely
my opinion, by the way. So not blinking, twice, not under
duress is that Steven Crowder, became a free agent. And he's
feeling a little vulnerable right now. Right? He's used to
working for other organizations, he has some guaranteed pay.
Adam Curry: Also, the incessant use of write means that she's
trying to convince us and she does not do this. Typically,
her. Her vocabulary is a little more controlled when she's not
trying to do things that are unnatural isn't this is not
probably natural for her. But she's trying to convince us of
something. That's why she keeps saying, right, right, right.
Which is not a typical thing for her that I can
Unknown: pick up on it too. I'm glad because when you see your
own, like guest spots on tuck, or wherever else, she's very
Adam Curry: tight, you gotta gotta tight. She doesn't have to
say, right, you know, Tucker will do that for her. So all
right
Unknown: now, right. He's used to working for other
organizations, he has some guaranteed pay. And he thought
that daily wire, were actually going to meet him at $120
million. They didn't, they declined. And he's still feeling
a little shaky on that. It's, it's scary to go out on your
own. I thought about it, I thought I'm going to go out on
my own. It's a lot of work, maybe down the line, I will, but
it's a scary thing to go out to step out on your own and say,
I'm going to do this thing completely by myself. As Jeremy
pointed out, he has not done that before. Right. And so to do
this, he pulled a move in which he was going to try to take a
bunch of people that were subscribed to The Daily wire and
start his own company. So essentially, say, I'm the hero.
I'm the martyr, follow me because I'm not like those guys.
Then he was wanting to start his own shop. And that's what he's
trying to do. And some people fell for it and said, I'm with
you to the UN, a mug club till I die and didn't understand that
really, nothing happened here other than nobody wanted to pay
Steven Crowder, $120 million. So we turned to his viewers who he
thinks are stupid, stupid athletes on top associations
work, right? Like this is like normal, get back and forth. And
they were gonna make up for his loss. So people that are upset
by his video, the millions of millions people who watched it
are now going to give him $1 Whatever it costs being the mug
club, and they're going to become the 100 and $20 million
that he feels like he deserves.
Adam Curry: But okay, so thank you very much. This is a perfect
clip. Except Candace turns it around here and says, Oh, no,
I'm gonna steal people from the daily wire. The daily wire in
everything I saw from Mr. Boring was that they would love to have
his 300,000 people and that's what they just kept saying,
Well, can you show us the list? We want to see that you have
300,000 paying members, because I believe it I believe I believe
he has maybe not 300,000 But he's got 100,000 At least, that
Unknown: obviously he's making money. He's making some bank. I
mean, it speaks for itself. You
Adam Curry: have 2025 people. That is a you know, that's like
a $12 million prob that's probably outdated. I'd like a
$12 million payroll. Which by the way, I don't know why. This
is this is always video probably. But it's always
baffled me why you need so many people to do a podcast, which is
kind of what he should just be doing. I love his on the street
stuff, you know, change my mind. I love that. But Candace is
turning it around here. And again, this proves to me that
she is she just turned everything upside down. Whereas
he really didn't want to give up his mug club that cheaply.
That's That's what I see happening here. He didn't want
to just give that up. And although it was never in the, in
the stuff that he aired, and I'm sure he didn't hear everything.
I think the negotiation was really about that, Oh, do you
want to take my mug club but then if I leave, do I get it
back? I think that's what it was about. He didn't want to hand
his subscribers over four $50 million.
Unknown: And I just gotta lay it out here. And I'm gonna circle
back to use our tip. But I have to lay out here because we're
falling right into the trap they wanted us to do. They want us to
talk about the money. Right? That's why the money became the
issue. The Money, money, money, money, money. You heard. Right,
you heard it he'll talk about it was the $50 million course is
it's not about the money. It's about the daily why you're
working for big tech. And who controls big tech? The FBI.
Hello, yes. Have we not seen it? Tweety, Tweety leaks. You are
saying? This is this. This is why they started bringing up the
money let's like move. Let's move
Adam Curry: money away. Yeah.
Unknown: Because what he's accusing us of is being part of
the unit party and their issues, even us anti conservative anti
Republican toggle, I thought was free market. I thought it was
you know, if somebody could come take your market. Now, as long
as this ain't no less regulation. Isn't that what they
want? Yeah. But it's not. Now it's Oh, he's not playing with
me. You know, he's not playing fair ball. He you know, he's
he's playing underhanded. I thought that was what free
market and capitalism was all about. As long as not expressly
illegal. It's fair game. So they're going against their
whole ideology to deflect the fact that they work for the
government. Point blank period. And I'm going to prove it. Yeah.
Goes all right. Oh, okay.
Adam Curry: Hold on. Let me just make tilt the lazy boy back for
a second.
Unknown: Because I saw was going down to money pack, which that
they want us to sit here have a three hour podcast about the
money, which the money is not important at all, he's worth
what he's worth, you know that if he was about the money, they
would negotiation, Nick gets to some selling point is the fact
that when he got that contract, and says, You have to stay
inside what big tech says that you have to stay inside of he,
I'm just putting myself in his shoes. Like, say you Rica.
Adam Curry: Now hold on. I do want to, because of course, you
know, that's where the whole big con comes from. This is very
analogous to what happened with Spotify. Where Spotify bought
Bill Simmons, sports POD Network, what was I called
sports something, you know, me in sport for $300 million. And
they had Joe Rogan. And they you know, and then they they
internally, this was a big story just recently, and they
internally wanted to say, All right, now we're going to lock
it off, you're not going to be able to get any of these
podcasts anywhere, except on Spotify. So Joe Rogan is already
that way. We're not going to have Bill Simmons network go out
anywhere, but on Spotify. And it was Bill Simmons who said, Ah,
we will not be able to perform against your metrics that are
given to us based upon the acquisition if we're not on
Apple and YouTube and all these other places, because the
advertising just won't have enough reach. So there is some
validity to the business model that they are proposing. But
that business model is exactly what it has always been stay
within the lines don't get kicked off don't get D
platformed. And that's the leverage and it's always been
there to curtail first free speech.
Unknown: Correct And that proves that they're not really all
media they're not really
Adam Curry: of course not. If you're if you're if you're
taking ads no you're not it's that is the lever that is the
worst. That is worse than you might as well just go staying on
site with no clothes on.
Unknown: Our if you said our advertisers are not happy that'd
be one thing. But when you can say YouTube's not happy or big
Tex not happy and naked shut you down right right in this crowd
in this mule you are you're saying whatever you want to call
it weren't is that sacrilege? What you am big tech control
that we are rumble. We got him say all these alternate things
Rumble is I know. What I'm just saying is this is the we've
carved out our own lane kind of thing, and we want it here to
what, this is why we left while I'm walking away. You know, that
was how can this whole thing about the Republican and
Democrat, we're walking away anyway. But right now you're
just saying they're just another plantation. That's that's all
they are you think you have a choice when you're going over
the air between the two, but you're just going right into the
same trap as you would if the hill Correct. All right, you're
saying or MSNBC or anywhere else, it's like you have to
subscribe to the thought, well, it's
Adam Curry: okay. So the money is actually it's reinforcing,
because that's why they talked about it right here. And and by
the way, that was the vortex first first response, because I
know John, I love him. But it's all indefinitely. It's like,
what if they offered 50 million for no agenda? I convinced you
you do it? I said, No, I wouldn't. He said, Yeah, you
would just for a couple of years. Stick it out. No, no, no,
I got a lot more left than you rather No, no, no, no. And
that's what the hill was basically saying, well, for $50
million, you know, I'll do anything. That's pretty how my
mama for feed me and I'll even work for the conservative. The
daily wire for 50 million bucks. That's what's going on here.
Unknown: Right? Like masterpiece, if I'm if you offer
me to me, and I must be worth 4 million. That's the mass. That's
the actual free mindset. Whatever you you're saying,
however, you set my valuation, I gotta wait for you to make money
off of me. I have to be worth more than you're offering me
correct. That's just logic. I mean, that's mathematical logic.
So let's go ahead and get into the second part of Candace Owens
own Steven Crowder.
First of all, we're gonna say this unrelatable unrelatable.
People are trying to pay for bacon and eggs right now at the
grocery store, trying to buy a steak once a week. And you're
over here crying because somebody couldn't meet you at
$120 million. And it is crying. I don't like it. It was a total
bitch move. There are plenty of things that happen across all
organizations in the conservative movement, where I
will say that I empathize. And with Steven Crowder, I'm saying
that sometimes you feel like a cynic. We're just like, is
everybody selling out? Are people doing this people doing
that? There are a lot of things that Daley wire has done that I
disagree with? There's a lot of things that turning points on
this that I disagree with. There are things perhaps that Prager
you has done that I disagree with, I have worked with all of
these companies, right. But to do a total bitch move and go out
to the public, rather than trying to resolve these things
in these in these slight differences behind the scenes.
And to make it seem like you're over here on You're the true
one, you keep it authentic when something really nothing
happened. Or then you didn't like an initial term sheet. And
all you had to do was tell them that and tell them what you
didn't like and go back and forth with lawyers like
everybody else. And by the way, the last thing I'm gonna say
because I'm going on Tim Poole sites, I'm gonna say it anyways
later, is that I'm pretty sure, wasn't it? Steven Crowder, who
also screwed over somebody who used to work with Was it not gay
Jared? Because he had them tied up in a contract? Wasn't that
Steven Crowder? Who did that? So is he supposed to be the moral
high bar? We're not supposed to call him out for that here.
Here's the even why don't you release not gay Jared from his
NDA, and allow him to talk about how he felt he was treated by
you because I know that at the blaze, everyone says that you're
actually not that nice. You treat people poorly. But you
bring in so much revenue that everybody just has to take it.
Adam Curry: Wow, talk about airing the dirty laundry. I love
it. I hadn't heard this. Oh, yeah. I love
Unknown: it. And she brings up a valid point. It does this Steven
Crowder have way slaves we need to overturn this media slave
narrative racket they got they got going. Not narrative. Oh,
no. Definitely a real thing. Well, and
Adam Curry: I just want to say I when I worked at MTV, I got
fired seven times. Because I wouldn't do it. They never there
was never any stipulation. Like you got to do this. You got to
do that. You got to you got to never talk negative about the
artists and date day to day to day. They brought me up to the
press office Carol Robinson always remember Carol Robins
nice lady by the way. And and, and this okay, we said we got to
interview with TV Guide now mind is 87 TV Guide was the biggest
magazine in America. Everyone. Everyone read the TV Guide. And
we had Yeah, of course, it was just gonna be a little a little
blur. But you know, the Intrado the new VJ at MTV where I come
from, and oh, you know, who have you met? I met Madonna which I
didn't she wasn't very nice. She was pretty insincere. Carol
Robinson I thought she was going to faint because she was no of
course listening to this to this call. And when and when I was
done. I said well, how did you think I did? I can't believe you
said that about Madonna. I can't believe we were trying to get
here for the VMAs I can't believe that you. I said oh, and
right then and there. I knew okay. This is how it's gonna
work. So I always fought against it. And it did not work. You
know, look, they don't invite me back for their big reunion
shows. You don't see Adam doing, you know, a retro a segment on
the show. Video Music Awards.
Unknown: This is what we call a habitual line stepper. Adam, you
are a habitual line stepper. as I as I as I am I actually have a
T shirt that I was given by a producer that actually says this
habitual line stepper and NAS I think where we meet it. That's
that's the, the connective tissue between me and you
because I can't be bald? Honestly,
Adam Curry: no, we know you're very principal. And of course,
right we both believe in reptile people.
Unknown: Correct Correct. connection when they want to
make it about the money. It's not It's never about the money
because not publicly because these deals get worked out. I
mean, it's just a matter you know, what percentage, what
number how many million? The other reason? I think that they
made this situation about the money because if you make it
about the money, and you have Jewish people involved, you
always get played an anti semitic card.
Adam Curry: You're so smart. Yeah, exactly.
Unknown: And I have a clip here. I think this is from Young
Turks. Alex Jones gave his two cents and I cannot Can I just
say something about Alex Jones, you? subscriber, you and I both
subscribed to the value for value. But I think selling your
own product is really the only alternative to you know, if you
don't want to be under contract. You know, it's a lot of work. I
got it. But I think that's the only other way. Um,
Adam Curry: but it's a very successful model, which I'm too
lazy for it. I don't like it. I don't know, mostly is T shirts
and swag, which is all kind of what NPR does. You know, a
public radio, you got a tote bag or a coffee mug. Yes, Alex Jones
is up. And I've seen his operation. Many times his his
studio is impressive. But his warehouse is even more
impressive. And he's got you know, that's where all the staff
is, is moving that stuff out. You know, he's always shooting
promos evaluating products. So yeah, he's, to me, that would
drive me crazy. I want to focus on that. Maybe that's why Alex
has been driven crazy. I just want to focus on what I do and
do the best of what I do. And I want to die. Like what we do the
value to come from the people who are who are receiving value.
I want to get it back. And I'll ask for it. Not shy about it.
Right. But yes, that is that you had to wear two hats. Yes. And
it's or you have to have a whole nother organization. It's a pain
in the ass. It's not, I just never saw it as something I
would be able to do.
Unknown: Right? Well, I was just making that point that that's
the only alternative if you want to be actually free is you know
is to have your own goods. But that's, I think that's the only
two ways you could do it or just take a vow of poverty and just
work for nothing.
Adam Curry: Well, what we do value for value is is close to
that. But but you know, by the same token you can say Hey,
Adam, you know what, I need two more days. Something new came to
light, we'll move it over. I can say shit, you know, we're our
own. I think that freedom right it to me is much better than an
additional $60 million and all the headache that comes with it.
Unknown: And and we're gonna get like I said this this show is
going to be it goes deeper than this. But now we got to get to
the other reasons and take it to the money. Alex Jones goals anti
semitic. And there's some good people that
Elimar I don't want to attack them all. But I'm going to tell
you folks, there's they are worse than the Democrats. They
are the Judas goats. They are Judas Iscariot. Ben Shapiro is
Judas Iscariot.
That's Alex Jones taking sides with Steven Crowder in the feud
between him and Ben Shapiro and everybody featured at the Daily
wire and of course making an anti semitic comment in the
meantime, before we get to more of Alex Jones, we'd like to give
a special someone who predicted that the right wing would vote
would turn on Ben Shapiro. During Ben's argument in
candidate with Candace Owens and Kanye West, we like to give them
a little credit. So who was it? Take a look.
The Research Bureau is in a tough spot as we explained on
day one the minute Candace Owens said her defensive Kenny was
like, oh, Shapiro screwed because now if he fires her
people go oh, cancel culture odd I would get the bird does do for
you is Bucha. Right, and a ton of the right wing or anti
Semites. And so he set up his camp in the middle of a nest of
vipers. And so all of a sudden he looks around and he goes, Oh,
I woke up and it turns out this Vipers everywhere.
Adam Curry: Wow.
Unknown: The other reason why you take the conversation to
money,
Adam Curry: no kidding. And this is also disappointing. It makes
it It really makes it all makes all them look like to me just
complete, worthless people who cares? Not now I don't know
until I Grifters. Why don't want a lot? Yeah, yeah, in a way
Grifters? Yes, sure. Sure. Big con for Crowder has more rights
than I thought he was interesting.
Unknown: Yeah. And like, the whole idea of getting that on
tape in getting the wage slaves in how they're trying to wrangle
all the up and coming talent and get them under contract so they
can control them. It will it will. It was good business. From
business standpoint of it. You eliminate he understands one
competitor to blaze because he worked there. Oh, yeah. And then
you can completely eliminate maybe the biggest outside of Fox
News by only considering him you're saying that conversation
but you say into quote unquote, independent appearing media.
That will be the daily daily wire. I don't know why it's
gonna say Daily Mail for some reason, but the daily wire, so
he got rid of them, he understands the blaze. There's a
lot of market share there. And he already has 100, some 1000,
like you said, 200 to 300,000. Strong coming in. Yep. And he
creates himself as the I'm, I'm Moses here to free you from the
from the big con. I'm sorry. Like it, I like it. But now you
see going to the money automatically becomes anti
semitic, you're talking about money, you're talking about a
Jewish person, it has to be anti semitic. And you saw the left
hand media, jump right on it, and run with the talking point
that that the Young Turks do. So this goes on, you want to hear
more, of course.
So the Judas Iscariot line is a deeply anti semitic trope. It's
been used for centuries, millennia. And so when he calls
Ben Shapiro who's Jewish, Judas, that's not subtle at all. He's
basically saying, look at the goddamn Jew, okay. And it's
terrible, but it's terrible to all of us. For right wingers,
this kind of music to their ears. Why do you would so hold
George Soros thing? Me? You think they're worried about
donors that everybody should be worried about donors, but no,
they never talk about the Koch brothers or other democratic
donors that are Christian, right? Pelosi has raised a
billion dollars, the overwhelming majority from
Christians, but they never talked about that. They always
talk about Soros because he's Jewish. Right. Yeah. So Shapiro,
I thought, oh, no, Judeo Christian heritage. Yeah. How's
that working out for you? So no, they were always anti Semites.
The whole thing was, oh, we support Israel so much, you know
why? Right? And times theology. So that at the end, Israel and
all the Jews that lived there are destroyed and murdered
except for 144,000 that convert to Christianity. So the whole
thing of like, Oh, we love the Jews is so we love the Jews, so
you can all get murdered in our Armageddon.
Adam Curry: Wow, wow. being relatively new to the Bible, but
having read some of it, it's like, wow, this is this is a
this is an interesting angle.
Unknown: let that soak in for a minute. He said a lot. First,
I've never put anti semitism with Judas. No, mount is
Adam Curry: massive. Matthew would be more appropriate if you
want to do that, you know, the tax collector.
Unknown: Correct. I'm just saying that the term Judas like
oh, he's a Judas. That means you were saying one thing, but you
were doing another or you know, you're a
Adam Curry: trader, you're a trader, right? Yeah, exactly.
Which is fitting
Unknown: when you think about what the daily wire was doing it
fitting that they say they're conservative news, but they
adhere to you know, talking points and the rules of big
tech. So it was fine but that never crossed my mind and say
oh, that's anti semitism that you you every time you say Judas
it means the GD Jews like no no what what world is he living in?
I mean what headspace a chunk very telling when people go
there.
Adam Curry: I mean, he right away said you know, the only
reason they say George Soros because he's Jewish. No, no, no,
that's just not true. Now our cities are being ruined by the
money that he is invested in in bogus attorney State's Attorney
General's and so bad that sells even liberal San Francisco got
rid of theirs. Right. So no,
Unknown: I just found that very telling. Like where he took it
and they say they're there for Israel because they want to kill
him.
Adam Curry: I love I love that part. Yeah. Because in times in
times theology, all right. All right. You got me?
Unknown: Every time I check I always saw like on Fox News is
Krishna is raising money for poor little old ladies in
Ukraine is Jewish. You know, you get them blankets and potatoes.
Adam Curry: I love that. That's I love that commercial. It's too
long, but I love it. It's very funny.
Unknown: So I'm just, I felt what, like I said the daily wire
understood if we make it about the money, yeah, then on the
auto anti semitism machine to kick in, and now do the dirty
work for us and you're hearing it now. And he's just going off
the rails with it. And we said their brood of vipers. I think
that's more anti semitic term. I mean, I heard that more
interesting than Judas. Well, you know,
Adam Curry: bringing bringing up the Vipers I mean that goes back
to Moses, you know, in the making the bronze snake on the
on the cross. I mean, he's confusing a lot of stuff here.
Unknown: All together. I'm just gonna blame it on
Adam Curry: just just throw everything from the Bible in
there and say and say anti semitism that works. Okay. All
right chunk. Well done.
Unknown: So this is the third and final part of him because we
just can't do too much more him. But he brings up an excellent
group of people are named in this next clip, he
we do have a little bit more of Alex Jones. So let's take a look
at that.
The daily wire is it was founded by a billionaire family out of
Texas, connected to natural gas and fracking that's involved in
a real religious, weird religious movement. That back
Ted Cruz that founded the daily wire to take out Breitbart and
Bannon to try to take out the populist wing of the Republican
Party. Jeremy boring is admitted that being an anti Trump
platform was their foundation. They were backed by spook
related money and spook related sources. Their goal it's not a
coincidence. They were big backers of Ted Cruz. It's not a
coincidence. They were big Trump haters. It's not a coincidence
they've heard for every war in existence. The Reuters AP Young
Turks, Media Matters. All those organizations all took the spin
of the for the daily wire against Steven Crowder, I think
Crowder stumbled into this router didn't realize he was
stumbling into an Operation Mockingbird operation. I mean,
to give people an idea, the deal the daily wire is backed by
billionaires probably a billion dollar company makes hundreds of
millions of dollars a year this deal was done in order to lock
up and Co Op and control in cabin and contain conservative
voices, which was
Fox News has been doing forever.
And we hear at Info Wars are backed by ultimate bone broth.
I'm not sure if you saw
Adam Curry: that. Yes, I do have I did a dive into the family
behind behind the daily wire. And I don't know it's a weird
cult, I'm not sure then definitely claim to be
Christians. And yeah, I mean, it's big money. Definitely
didn't find much of that with either you, did you? I didn't. I
didn't find the spook money. I like it. I'd like to find out
more about that.
Unknown: Not just them. Oh, no. For people. They didn't mention
their name in it. I thought they did. But let me just explain who
we're talking about. Yes. They're talking about the Wilkes
brothers. Yes, correct. Which you didn't find very much
information about them. There's a Wikipedia page. But that's
about it. The only thing I found is like this land in Idaho that
they have that they're beefing with the locals about but like
deep into politics, and whether they're Alia, ideologies,
there's like one sermon about one of the brother, that's a
pastor. And there's this clip I found on YouTube me whether it's
video I found on YouTube called The Secret other Koch brothers
you never heard of. So he's gonna go into high secret. If
they are, it opens up with this clip of them talking. And then
he goes into his breakdown over them. So I guess we can jump
into that. But this is all I could find him,
you know, and bring the Bible back into the school and start
teaching our kids at a younger age. And, you know, focus on the
younger generation. They're being taught the other ideas,
the gay agenda every day out in the world. So we have to stand
up and explain to them that that's not real. That's not
That's not proper. It's not right.
The Koch brothers, Charles and David, who died in 2019, have
almost become an idiom, representing corporate right
wing mega donors as a group and indeed they are huge in the last
election cycle. They gave more than $1.5 billion but they're
not aren't the only ones in fact, there are a lot more
corporate mega donors like them. And one such pair are the
brothers Dan and Ferris Wilks. The Wilkes brothers don't get
all of the attention that the Koch family does. They don't sit
down for interviews, there's not a lot of information readily
available about them. They're not on social media, there
aren't even very many pictures of them. This is every
photograph of the Wilkes brothers that I could find on
the internet. You'll notice they're only 18. And that clip
that I showed you, at the beginning, is the only interview
that they've done in 2013 for the Christian Broadcasting
Network. And I showed you that interview in its entirety.
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're right. I didn't I didn't know there's a
wiki page. That's all that I ever really found. But they are
very wealthy, that's for sure.
Unknown: Very wealthy, they made their money in fracking,
fracking, and they're very, very silent to the to the outer
world, but that's a good reason to have outlet like the daily
wire because they can push their whatever interests and whatever
whatever their interest in and their agenda through that.
Talking.
Adam Curry: We should mention that none of this is new media
is traditionally the look at who you know, the New York Times The
Washington Post. Chicago Tribune, the Tribune Company
itself is very traditional for big media companies to be owned
by very rich citizens, Jeff Bezos, who used to move their
agenda. I was just looking at the you know, the verge got $100
million investment from Penske media company, that which is one
of the kids of the Penske family, the Penske trucking
empire? And of course, you know, he's been in car racing and
stuff. And so now he controls very big swaths of entertainment
media. This is this is normal and why? Well, that's their
business, their business is entertainment media. I would
consider car racing entertainment, you know, the
Penske brand is they understand how to market this stuff. So
this is not this is not new. But these guys are just really good
at it.
Unknown: It's new in the sense of having these Renegades Yeah,
come in and propping up. I don't want to say I don't know,
establish, establishing
Adam Curry: propping up I would say, providing a foundational
base.
Unknown: Right? So you take these Renegades quote, unquote,
and you put money behind them, they haven't been vetted. They
haven't went through the journalism schools and
conditioning that your average journalists have to go through
what happened and they know how to stay in the bounds. Right?
You go through that. Conditioning, you know how to
stay in the bounds. We even see this with, like, greenwall and
what's the Max and mattevi AB even though they defected they
still stay in bounds. They, you know, they won't totally they.
So that's what's different. When you have people like Crowder and
even a Candace Owens and people like that they play outside of
that those bounds, they haven't been conditioned. Now they're
fighting tooth and nail to get into that into that group. And
they do they do whatever they can not to be fully canceled.
You know, they want to be reasonable. And that's the whole
thing with them. They want to be reasonable, but you have a whole
nother you know, round, like with the Alex Jones and
everybody on like, in on the outskirts. I mean, I even put
Tucker in there. I still can't figure out what the hell Tucker
has over at Fox that allows him to say what he says
Adam Curry: then, yeah, well, that's I hate the term but
limited hangout would be will be the right term. You know,
Unknown: would you say that? No,
Adam Curry: I mean, I will Yeah. Okay. His dad, his dad ran the
Voice of America. Right? That's that is by definition, an
intelligence service from the United States government. So
this is this is what he saw this this is how he was raised. He
understands this.
Unknown: So this goes back to nearly fuller statement that
they take all sides Correct. of the argument, which I just don't
understand why they give him Is it for credibility reasons,
because he straight up basically, Primetime Alex Jones
at this point,
Adam Curry: and you know, actually, I think he's, he's
gone. He's gone backwards. I I'm not a pro Sharing the stuff he's
doing anymore. It's really very Twitter like, again, you know
very Tim Poole. Like the stuff that I think is fantastic is
his, his long form interviews, which I think is what he as a
creative person wants to do. And he really he's dialing it in as
far as I'm concerned on on Tucker Carlson Tonight. It's
there's really rarely anything interesting. It's all outrage
topics, missing the big picture of so many things. I'm not
impressed. And the only thing that is very impressive. Is that
as the one slot anywhere on mainstream that goes against Big
Pharma and that has to be a Murdoch deal. Where they said,
look, look, he has got to give us this it's the the rest of Fox
is all pro Big Pharma, all pro military industrial complex,
every single one of them. And they sandwich it between you
know, Jesse waters, who's just dumb at just this lame. It's
nothing going on there with game shows. And Sean Hannity who
could he have any more? Intelligence pins, FBI, CIA,
NSA, he's got all the pins on his lapel.
Unknown: So you use the key words sandwiched? Yeah, cuz if
you watched the last five minutes a one show? They've
talked crossing in the first five minutes of the next show?
Yeah, you get whiplash? Yeah, you just like what is that's
what I find fascinating about it is it's the eating out there
search counter narratives to each other. And that's why I
could never figure out I mean, I get the limited hangout aspect
of it. But why even go that way? I mean, as this this great
ratings ratings, the ratings are often off the charts
astronomical. So this is their brand basically of daily wire
and your
Adam Curry: router. And it's not that I don't think Tucker's I
think Tucker is very sincere with his daily show on Fox
nation or his his interview show. I really feel is just kind
of dialing if you really dialing it in for the rest. You know
what, and he and whoever was there, this the not during the
great topics, no one will come on. He has no interviews only,
you know, okay. Wow. Let's talk to the lives of tick tock lady
again. Come on. Come on. Come on. Who gives a crowded chicken
Unknown: lady is like, Oh, right. Oh, ladies, it's like
What the hell's going on? But no, I'm just I just wanted to
bring that up. Because it'd be great point over the limited
Hangout, and that just goes to what Neely fuller says it's
taken off with Sure. It's just like, I'm wondering why Fox
feels they have to do that. That's that was my course.
Adam Curry: That gives them credibility. And it gets really
know it. Yes, it's red meat for your typical look at what's
happening now. So now, the the left mainstream, in particular,
CNN, MSNBC, you know, they've Oh, they've got the deposition.
They've got two emails, where everybody inside fox, fox news,
thought Trump was a nut job, all the people that were Sidney
Powell, everyone was crazy. The text messages from Tucker to
Frau Ingraham and back. And you know, our people are good
people, you know, really, really talking kind of in like, our our
people are kind of simple, who watch us. I mean, the one that
the whole thing is, and I believe that that's how that's
how it is internally. And so now they're taking that and they're
trying to deep platform the audience, you know, take the
audience away saying See, they don't care about you. They don't
care even Tucker Carlson doesn't care about you. And that's all
the news
Unknown: is trying news to the people or Fox it's not making
you look better. It makes you look worse, of course. You got
23 hours of crap. You have this one hour like it just makes you
look like a bigger pile you know, cuz like why would you
Adam Curry: it's you know, they have to from a programming
standpoint, they have to have that hour there for the sandwich
just tastes good.
Unknown: Okay, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just
agreeing to disagree with their strategy. Make everybody
douchebags
Adam Curry: No, but of course, it's horrible. It's it's a very
manipulative strategy. And for my money, I'm seeing Tucker
Carlson not doing much more about, you know, big picture and
topics than Tim Poole. It's really that level. It is not
God, it's not good anymore.
Unknown: I will agree with you on that. And what the term comes
to mind to me is red pill safe space. Like they're, they're the
on ramp for people that are dabbling with the red pill. You
know, it's a good safe own ramp. And I think that's why they
these people like Candace Owens go there because this is where
you can decide what brand new red pill you want to take. You
know, you go to Tim Poole and you stick You're telling the
water and no pun intended. And then you figure out oh, I want
to be you know, a Crowder type, red pill or I want to Candice
type red pill or, you know, something a little more
hardcore. But I'm just one last pasty, though. One last
Adam Curry: thing reading about the Wilkes brothers. So the way
that the church they I guess I've kind of CO opted co founded
assembly of YAHWAH. Because Seventh Day Adventist type thing
is conservative Jews for Jesus. It's like Messianic Jews was
very interesting. I'd love to know more about it. Well,
Unknown: number 12.
Guy when I decided to write this video, I thought that the Wilkes
brothers were going to be just another version of the Koch
brothers, right wing fossil fuel billionaires throwing their
money around for their own personal business interests. But
the more I looked into it, the more I realized that they really
are their own beasts. At their core. They aren't much more than
small town preachers at a Texas church who got lucky and jumped
up into the Forbes 400. But that church is powerful because of
them. It's reaching its arms into Austin and Washington, and
it's becoming one of the most powerful churches in America.
Who are these people? Who are the Wilks brothers? And what are
they up to? I think that the coverage of these two men to the
extent that it exists, tends to treat them as CO equal partners
in this relationship. And while Dan is definitely involved in
definitely approving of everything that's going on, I
think it's pretty clear that older brother Farris is the
senior partner in this relationship. Ferris is a little
bit wealthier. He's got a larger stake in the packs, and most
importantly, for reasons we're about to get into. He's the
pastor at their church. Faris as the dirt farmer says Dan
Griffith, a local their town of Cisco, Texas, who spoke to
Reuters. Dan has more Hollywood in him.
Okay, all right. So I just there's just more information
and we can just go right into the 13 because then they get
more into the religious side of it. We've talked we'll talk
about on the other side,
Faris Wilkes, and this may surprise you is not a Christian,
or a Jew, or a Muslim or a Hindu or really anything by his own
definition. His Church, the assembly of Yawei seventh day,
not affiliated with Seventh Day Adventist has been called a
Messianic Jewish church. That's a controversial religious sect
which claims to be Jewish but recognizes Jesus Christ as the
Messiah. However, all the major denominations of Judaism, that's
Orthodox, Conservative, reform and Reconstructionist. All don't
recognize Messianic Judaism, or as they call it Hebrew
Christianity as a sect of Judaism. They say that it's
actually a sect of evangelical Christianity, which uses the
symbols of the Jewish faith to undermine the Jewish faith,
tricking people into converting into Christianity. They also say
that Messianic Judaism teaches Christian supersessionism which
is the idea that Judaism is not a valid religion, because it was
superseded by Christianity upon the death of Jesus. Rabbi
Ephraim Davidson, stead of one prominent Messianic Jewish group
Jews for Jesus, that their techniques are manipulative,
deceptive and anti semitic. Likewise, a number of Protestant
churches, including the evangelical Lutherans, United
Church of Christ and Presbyterian Church have issued
statements against proselytizing Jews, however, Faris Wilks His
Church does not consider itself to be a Messianic Jewish
congregation.
Adam Curry: Man, I am not schooled enough. But I I can say
this. One of the people who actually one of the people who
got Tina and I into going to church is a Messianic Jew. And
her mother, in fact, was survived Auschwitz, and wrote a
book or Obama gave her the Medal of Freedom or something. And she
doesn't seem to be like some trickery, tricky drew Zhu who
was trying to do shit to us. I think that's it's kind of easy
to easy to say that, but it seems a lot more intricate than
that.
Unknown: Right. But that's this is the talking point. What this
brings up to me more than anything. Ben Shapiro's in bed
with these kinds of people.
Adam Curry: Yes, partners,
Unknown: you understand what I'm saying? Like, like, where's the
disdain that he normally has for everybody else that he asked
for? Yay. And everybody else says anything. But he's in bed
with what they consider to be Messianic Jews. And you see how
they're If I want the narrative, I want to explain that very
clear to narrative about them seem to be, but nobody holds Ben
Shapiro accountable. I find that interesting that he takes money
from them. And what they're the Vipers. This is this is the
Vipers that chunk was talking about.
Adam Curry: Yes. And, and I know several people who are well, who
who speak with Shapiro regularly connected to the Manhattan
Institute. So he he's involved with and that is not a a Jewish
or Messianic Jewish or anything that is more Christian, I would
say. Shapiro plays a lot of different on a lot of different
fields.
Unknown: That's the one I wanted to point out basically about,
who was offering the $50 million. At the end of the day,
it wasn't boring. And it wasn't Ben Shapiro, it was the the
wills brothers that was writing that check. And they wanted
another asset. And Steven Crowder in their collection.
That's how I see it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, possibly. I mean, ultimately, yeah, there's,
I don't know, their their full involvement. I think for them,
it'd be more like, yeah, let's get let's get full coverage.
Unknown: Right. And he fits that more I can say if they tried to
go with the culture, because he's more into the comedy. Yeah,
and the skits and things like that, and when doesn't really
get more that much into hard news, and journalism. So that
will be that will be on brand for them. So we got I got some
clips here, we can kind of breeze through these. But it was
just more about the contract because Kanye West, being the
visionary that he is, was talking about these contracts.
Almost three years ago, they I mean, this, this was this was
coming up, what we saw him go through with the whole DEF CON
thing and everything like that was the culmination of a three
year battle over contracts. So this is from two I met a little
over two years ago, almost three years ago. Um, and this is the
Joe Budden podcast, and they're speaking on the Kanye West
contract right now. Well, stop
trying to deflect man Kanye walk us through it. A few days, we
spoke about it last pod. It doesn't seem like this is just
an egotistical about him type of thing. It seems like he's just
trying to change the narrative, you know, for for all artists or
creators. He's trying to, he's just trying to change what
system has already been in place for years. And I like that the
person on the Grammy thing was a little far from me. Yeah. Yeah.
Because you have to actually go out of your way to put a Grammy
in a toilet and piss on it, and then remove it from the toilet.
Definitely removed it that's not still in the toilet. But it's
just like,
just imagine sitting there drinking water, like, hold on.
Give me one second.
That was just a little weird, but I'm just understand the
messaging behind it. And I like it. I like what he's doing this
is to me, this is probably the best Kanye rant that we've,
we've gotten. Because it's not just about him. It seems like
it's about all artists that he's trying to fight for. And all
artists rights. So I respect that. I gotta respect it.
I love it. I'd like to see what the action plan is. Because he's
asking something that is, to some degree, insane when it
comes to these types of deals was to ask the for the Masters
just to give every artists their masters back. Let's like, I'm
with you all the way on everything that he's saying. I
love what he's saying. I'm with all this shit. I would just love
to know what the action plan showing me a text message to
talk to them. Which is great, because even talking to these
people, I didn't even know they had phones. Like these people. I
had no idea you could really text these people.
But that was a part of cognacs thing, because we don't even
know these people yet. They never shoot than I do.
I've heard none of these names in my entire life.
Adam Curry: Because you can't call them they call you
Unknown: right on time with the blue light. Now y'all understand
how to Boulais phone works. That's how it works. You don't
worry it doesn't ring back at all it only down one way. So
once again, this just leads to the whole point of I'm sure that
it was the wills brothers money. But you're not going to be
talking to these people. You know, I'm in there, you're hired
help. Let's just see what your employee and their business. And
that's what Kyle was saying with this whole situation. Like I
said, we can breeze through these clips. But I just want to
really a matter of fact, let's go ahead and get into jump down
to 17 because this is two lawyers talking about the
contract in plain English. And you spoke about this has much
change. Is this a new conversation about contracts and
medium music or outfall? Well So it's basically the same thing
Adam Curry: Well it's interesting I was listening to I
was in the car yesterday driving back from my surgery so I'm like
I just want to my mouth is all numbed up and stuff I'm drooling
on the listen to Sinatra, simply Sinatra channel 70 on Sirius XM.
And there's the show that where they have someone talk about
Frank Sinatra and play records and as Tim McGrath I think he
played for the St. Louis Cardinals to not mistaken and he
also did later did commentary, calling games etc. And but he
was he also was a performer, entertainer singer. And he went
to Vegas on an off day with a couple of guys from the team.
And, and, you know, and, and to Sinatra show, and Sinatra, you
know, that's kind of how it works, you know, it's like, oh,
we're gonna go in. And so, you know, Frank's gonna call you
out, say, Hey, good to have you here. And Sinatra's on stage as
Hey, they're the guys from the Cardinals, you know, we got the
same boss. So what do you mean? Because he has Sinatra? He was
given a Budweiser. It was Anheuser Busch. What's the name?
Probably goodie, I guess, or grinder or whatever, the old
guy. And he gave, they'd given him a beer distributorship. And,
you know, you just see the power right there of Sinatra saying,
and we got the same boss, you know. And so we don't really get
an off that we both have to work for the man. He's just saying
that on stage. So this has always been this way in sports
and entertainment. It's always been you know, about the
Benjamins at the end of the day. And everybody who's really in it
bows down to it. And Kanye is right. If you saw the most
recent Grammys, Holy mackerel.
Unknown: Right. You have to do what you're told to do. Play the
devil. Yeah. Well, that that number 15. That would just play.
And I think 14 That would just play up on the job books
podcast, these masters, this is the same thing that they're
talking about with. With your your rights to your content.
Yes. That you don't own it, which I find is crazy, that you
don't own what you make. I can see it either way. If I didn't,
if I was making throwaway content. Let's just say we were
making a show. And it was just us yakking? He was saying like,
whatever. I can see it from that point, when you're making like
albums and documentaries and things like that, it'd be that
Alas, that is evergreen. I guess that's the word you use for. I
can't see signing my rights away to this.
Adam Curry: Of course, this is somewhat an antiquated model.
Before, you know, back in the day, if you you needed the Hit
Factory or you know, one of these big studios need the right
producer, you need the relationships, you need the
right lawyers and all the things that a record company gives you.
That's their stipulation, you don't and Paul McCartney didn't
didn't own his masters, Michael Jackson, at some point own the
masters to The Beatles stuff. That's why Michael Jackson had
to go, in my opinion.
Unknown: I agree. I don't I don't own
Adam Curry: a single a single thing. Like the work I did on
television in the Netherlands of work. I didn't MTV, I know I
don't get a residual from that they can do whatever they want
with that for in perpetuity. So whether you want to take the
money upfront, which by the way, is the biggest scam because
there's the thing called recoupment in the music
business. So you think you're that you're getting all this
money, and you think that you're getting the studio, but now
you're actually paying for it yourself out of your advance.
Same thing with books. So yeah, I mean that now. Yeah, and this
is now this thank you for for bringing this up. This is the
culture of America that is going to eventually break through our
culture is once once we take away the Amazons book
publishers, people, people who people who write books will have
their own decentralized distribution mechanism, very
similar to podcasting. Podcasting is that is that last?
Right now as far as I'm concerned, the only mechanism
that allows you to own and distribute anything you want
your own way without anyone really being able to stop it.
Thank God for Bitcoin because now we have a you can't
financially do platform either. This is going to happen with
music. And I'm working with some really smart people who have set
up hosting companies to host music that people have not
licensed to ASCAP BMI that people have not made under the
auspices of owning your masters, because you don't need to do
that anymore. And surprise, surprise, when you do add value
for value, you make more money than you do streaming on
Spotify. This is the revolution that we're going through that is
going to help and everything in America and, and Kanye hasn't
quite seen it all, yet he sees the problems. He doesn't he
doesn't like the solution yet because he does like flying
private. You see, and there's not a lot of fly private flying
in, in the in the culture that we're building, it may never
happen, you know, it's more like you get what you deserve. I have
a great life. And I can fly myself, I can take lessons, I
can't fly private, she says, but I can get as far as I really
need to go. And that that takes a whole change of mentality. And
unfortunately, I still think that when it comes to music, and
doesn't matter whether you're Taylor Swift, or whether your
your your Kanye image, positioning Cristalle all this
shit is a part of it. And if you don't have it, you're not seen
as legit.
Unknown: What to see. That's the thing though. The record company
could put all that behind you. But the people are not with you,
me being a musician and avid music fan. They can't pick the
winners. Case in point, I'm gonna give you just one case in
point flow router. Yeah, like Florida, he had the machine
behind him everything but he didn't have that connectivity.
The relatability is the term I want to use with the people. And
that's why we picked Kanye. Kanye wasn't meant to be a star.
You know, it was that all he is relatable to us at the time,
young man like me, that you know, didn't have you know,
we're not gangster or not this and hip hop. It's like, oh, he's
like the kid down the street that makes beats, ya know? And
that's what made him relatable. And he's, that's why they can't
catch him. Because the people picked him. The record labels,
they can put people in front of you all day, Demi Lovato and all
these people names. Nobody likes these people.
Adam Curry: Well, no, no, no. Yeah. But no, no back to so now
we're right back to where we were. So where did Kanye really
make his money? Not in music. He had to have his own product. He
had to help his Adidas just one of the many things but just use
as an example. He didn't control that business either. And, you
know, if you so if you Alex Jones doesn't really control the
contents of his of his product, I agree is so awesome. And you
know what they're going after that kind of product. So. So the
best way, in my mind is if you're, if you have talent, keep
it pure. And you'll get there. You'll get what you need, you'll
get exactly what you deserve. Yes, you will. I've proven this
over and over again. But if you if you think if you think it's
private jets or you want Yeah, well, then you gotta go with the
private jet crew.
Unknown: Which that's the only way they can bait people in. But
that's what they're doing content creators now is the Mr.
Beast, and those kind of people like, oh, they signed deals with
YouTube. So like, now they're flying private jet because kids
are leery about record contracts. You know, like
signing a written contract is kind of like signing your life
away.
Adam Curry: Every single kid would do it in a heartbeat
because they're the worshipping false idols. They see it. Oh,
this is great.
Unknown: I'm not sure about that. No, I'm not sure I, I
would say people my age, maybe down to 30. Yes. But the newer
crowd, they're like, oh, no, I can upload mine to whatever, you
know that. But here's the point.
Adam Curry: I was trying to make no stop, stop right there.
That's the trap. I can upload mine to whatever that and then
you get some money on YouTube. And then you're in the trap. And
then you you got to do it five times a week. You got to trick
the algos. You got that's the trap.
Unknown: This is why it was off putting to find out that the
daily wire had big tech looking over their shoulder. You see
what saying? Oh, I thought it was I thought we were free over
here. But even that point, a lot of people are not even monetized
on YouTube, to the point where I never accepted the quote unquote
partnership. Because it's like, Nah, I don't sign stuff. I don't
understand. You know, there's too much what can you say to me?
And a lot of times like that's why I guess knock on wood. I
don't get bothered on YouTube, even when I post these shows,
because like they're making free money off for me by putting ads
on it.
Adam Curry: For free. They've also taken They've also taken
one of our shows down I think there's we've at least had one
that was taken Come down.
Unknown: Yeah, it was more of a cost of music. Okay, more than
the content I'm just saying that they look at me like he's a
fool. He's working for free. You know, that's that's how they
look at it because they're making money off of putting ads
on my on my show, but I'm like, Okay, fine. I'll let you put ads
on my show as long as you don't bother me. And even still, like
I said, I never I never signed that deal and I think a lot of
people are going to that that it's it's we've been here with
music before and we can kind of like rap on him saying and Gary
go to the cuz we kind of covered what was in this this back and
forth. We're having in the plain English to the contract. So you
have far more experience with these like the music business,
but it's a we've been here before
Adam Curry: what hold on with, you know, when it was pure when
hip hop was was making beats at home, putting it on a cassette
making cassettes that was pure that is that is the purest,
that's like podcasting. That is completely pure. We need to go
back to do a version of that, a modern day version of that, and
we're gonna throw it away. It's gonna happen with music, but
they're not going to go easy. They're not going up. They're
gonna do everything they can to stop it because they love their
plantation. And that's not just for black artists. That's for
all artists, Taylor Swift here, because her dad had the
influence and the money he has. That's how she was able to
rerecord all of her masters. circumvent all the lawsuits so
she could have her quote unquote, her music back, but she
too, took the big money up front from scooter. Like okay, let's
go. Let's let's do it. He has your bag of cash, go make some
songs. And then always laters like, well give me my masters
back now. Oh, so you gave it away, and they
Unknown: just opposer against the boogey man Kanye stuff. I
mean,
Adam Curry: that was that was well done. That was That was her
did too. I'm sure I'm sure he arranged that.
Unknown: I can see that happening. But we're grateful to
the people that allow us to be free. Yes, you know, we don't
have to get free who would never sign the paperwork. So we I
think it's time that we thank them.
First, the white man in the black man have to be able to sit
down at the same table, the white man has to feel free to
speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And
the so called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without
hurting the feelings of the white man, then they can bring
the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and
take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's
the only way we'll ever do it.
Adam Curry: Man, I think we're doing just that. Very proud of
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Unknown: Alright, so now we we got to the no just the surface
level back and forth with between Steven Crowder and the
daily wire. But now we got to go into what the accusation means
when you say big con is in bed with big tech. We got to go back
to the heels report. And we're going to pick up with clip
number 21.
This is a guy who says that literally his brethren in
conservative on the conservative right is in bed with or has
these cushy deals with a lot of the big tech companies. Well
guess what so does everybody big tech is the is the reason why
many many of us have voices in media. They carry the message on
YouTube on Twitter on Instagram on tick tock all of that big
tick without big tech and some level of communication with
them. You would not have a voice. So it's interesting to me
that he is using this as a demonization but also that two
candidates point in I don't agree with candidates often if
you are going to have the squabbles you could have had
this with them personally, this never had to come into the
public square that recording didn't have to happen. Turn down
deals. I'm sure everybody on this panel all of us it probably
turned down deals before. We didn't make a public hubbub
about it. It's just not that deep.
Adam Curry: Wow, who is this speaking?
Unknown: I didn't get her name. Sorry about that. She's a
contributor for the hill.
Adam Curry: Now we got we all got deals we got offers all the
time
Unknown: right here from us. If it wasn't for big tech, we're on
my own. We've been overlooked. How are you special? Bend over
Adam Curry: everybody. Thank you big tech. Thank you, our
overlords, the big tech model is you do all the work, you got
nothing, we get all the money. That's how it works.
Unknown: And then they wonder why they're not worth $50
million. That's right. You're not worth $50 million because
big tech is doing all the heavy lifting and to be honest with
you. I'm your content is not the interesting I'm just sorry. I
mean I wouldn't be that way but you have to be interesting to
stand out and build your own following
Adam Curry: you have to make an outgoing products that's the
bottom line make an outstanding product.
Unknown: There plug and play and it's like if you're plugging
play, then it's easily it's on to the on the scrappy
Adam Curry: think about how lame it really is. If you if you
really step back and look at most most of these quote unquote
shows. It's it's distributed on big tech. And it's about big
tech content. It's about what someone said on Twitter, you
know, and then it's about what someone else said on on this
YouTube let's and we're going to talk about what that YouTuber
said on YouTube. tube, they love it. That's the whole model for
them.
Unknown: What more Twitter more so and that's why when Elon Musk
bought Twitter, he actually just bought the AP I mean that the
modern day version of the AP because whatever trends on
Twitter and that could be astroturf they can make training
whatever they want. Of course, yeah, that's down that's what it
bleeds down to YouTube people make videos about it on YouTube,
then eventually makes his way to articles and
Adam Curry: articles become points of discussion on on
YouTube and on Twitter. It's very circular.
Unknown: And if it's viral then it goes to local news where
Adam Curry: then pick and Tucker picks it up or the CNN picks it
up. Exactly right.
Unknown: So that's that's pretty much the point. But it was just
a matter of fact, she said, Oh, yeah, we're all in bed with big
tech. I found that to be interesting. Because well, let's
go on and get to the second part we have to get what does that
really mean?
And the acting but the accusation He's making us the
daily wire that they're that's really what's at the heart of
this that because in his deal they would take money deduct
money from him, if he gets in trouble for the things he says
and is suspended or something on YouTube or where or elsewhere
having that clause in the contract would be like the daily
wire caving to big tech censorship that's the accusation
which is a really that's a really serious charge to to put
on a conservative company like the daily wire that's always
complained about Disney and other places you know, doing
what will censors want
but I would question how uncommon this actually is and I
say that just because not right? Not uncommon at all, have you
become d platformed? To a certain extent, or you your
viewership is removed for any reason and the entire contract
was based on the viewership and what you were able to bring
along with it when that automatically mean that at some
point you lose your value to them I feel like that's
basically
exactly what Jeremy boring said in his response video that look
if you're with who we're gonna spend $50 million on you if your
ability it wouldn't be us punishing you but if you to
punishes you, and you're making you're bringing in far less
viewers and far less dollars we just we couldn't continue to pay
that amount.
Adam Curry: Yeah, who slave to who?
Unknown: Well, we we know who the slave is. And outlet that
take the slave contracts are the overseers Pretty much yeah. You
know, what they they tell what their big tech mass is tell you
what it does say that you know, you know, the guidelines, you
know, the rails, the status, the inbounds, you won't have any
problems with that censorship in itself, which that's the whole
point. This is what I was saying about Tucker Carlson for a
minute. I don't think they understand that. If Fox go is to
make themselves look better, it only makes you look worse,
because like, now you're saying what you could be, but you're
not even listening. I'm saying like, they don't I don't think
they understand the audience that tunes into conservative
media. Um, and I'll just say all media for that standpoint,
because we had the same thing with the A das conversation, you
know, once he got picked up and taken to the Russian Bar, big
media, yeah, as Russian bots, that was the that was the
natural response to it. So but for the people that quote
unquote, well, I call it a black thumbs. They don't understand
that our litmus test to if you're real, quote, unquote,
real or not, is very sensitive. And that goes to the
conservative side, even the liberal side, and definitely in
the black media space that they try to create, like Roland
Martin's. But once you start talking, like once you start
talking, we pick up on the Boulais talking points, and it's
over. So that's why I think there's so damn maybe she said
it herself that is so damning when you make this app, our
allegation to the daily wire is that it makes them impotent.
Adam Curry: Yes, right away in a very
Unknown: serious way, which I think that's why they you misled
yourself. He didn't say their name. But they had to come out
and do damage control just off the email call people like it
got to be daily wire, you know, it was no confirmation. They
confirmed it themselves,
Adam Curry: which there was a reason for that.
Unknown: Yeah, because you can't let that thing linger. We gotta
give it about the money so we can make about anti semitism and
get people to shut up talking about it, but I want to know,
no, yeah. it because there was an allegation may in Alex Jones,
that Eclipse that this was Operation Mockingbird. So you
want, you want to give people where your idea of Mockingbird
is. And then we're going to get into a very interesting person
that has an opinion on it.
Adam Curry: Mockingbird goes back to the mid mid to late 60s.
And the CIA specifically, was either directly in positions of
journalistic importance within the US mainstream media,
particularly CBS evening news. But also the New York Times,
members of my family were actually in a way involved in
this to a degree because there's another layer, which would be
people who would hand off stories and quote unquote, news
to editors, at cetera, and media. And there's a third part
of that, which is the circular circular record reporting, where
where you do this, I'll just give an example. You have an
agent or someone who was able to get something published in the
Nairobi times that is politically important to the US
or the intelligence agencies. And then they will talk to their
their counterparts in the New York Times and say, Well, you
know, you can just report on this because, look, you can say,
according to the Nairobi times, this own came out in something
called the church commission, led by I think it was either
senator or Congress, I think, Senator church, where this was
admitted openly, although they couch it a bit, and some had to
be done in closed session, that indeed, CIA works within
mainstream media at the time was only a few corporations. And
they they were doing this. And I think that even though laws were
put in place, as part of that Smith Mundt, the Smith Mundt
Act, which forbade the American government in any way, including
the Voice of America, to commit propaganda on the American
people. And that was overturned in 2012, during Barack Obama's
presidency, as part of the National Defense Authorization
Act, and the reason why is the same outfits that Tucker Carlson
Tucker, Carlson's father worked for and controlled at the time,
we're saying, well, now there's the internet. So we can't
function without the risk of creating some propaganda on our
own people. Because, hey, it's the internet. And they went, Oh,
you're right. And they overturned it. And so now that's
I think, since then, since 2012, there's never been as bad with
assets, reporting either directly, or controlling news
media, and in fact, all media into Tallis Harry, and I would
say that we're in Mockingbird 2.0, and maybe 3.0. At this
point,
Unknown: it might be micro Mockingbird. I'm as corny as
this term. I just call him because listen to you, it's
fine. I know how it works. Yeah, but just listen to you think
about it. Now they don't have to plant the stories and just
publish your newspaper. Just Well, well, nobody had to
publish it. They can find somebody making the point and
Adam Curry: amplify it. For instance, I believe Barry Weiss
is micro Mockingbird. Okay. And she Yes, because she has, you
know, I also think to a degree possibly maybe not even 100% in
their own with all their knowledge. But I think Glenn
Greenwald Matt Taibbi, they are also receiving Mockingbird
talking points. Even I would say even the the entire Twitter
files from Twitter is very similar to what Glenn Greenwald
did with Snowden, maybe 5%, of what Snowden revealed was
published in The Guardian and The New York Times. And I think
what what is being sent from lawyers and other people who
have the actual access to the documents is also being heavily
redacted and filtered into Matt Taibbi and Barry Weiss and
others who are reporting on Twitter. We're just getting a
little bit a little bit of what really was going on there. And
it already is quite astonishing. What was going on that we know
about.
Unknown: And I wouldn't even go as far as saying it has to be
known people. If we go back to the show about the Popeyes
chicken sandwich. They took unknown people, right? amplify
the story. Yep. nudge the hell out of people. And then you have
groups of people lined up around the corner buying a chicken
sandwich, just off of a news story that they created out of
thin air by amplifying tweets.
Adam Curry: It's called PR.
Unknown: Right? I'm saying that's the desk that they don't
even have the hand of stories in Even more, because you have so
many opinions in the ocean that is Twitter, that you can just
pluck it out and say, Okay, this is when we want to amplify, and
okay, we'll put, you know, we'll put the machine behind it, and
it will get people talking. All that has to be as a binary. You
know, you see these stupid quick story like, do you wash your
legs? Do you wash the backside of your plate? I think these are
all tests this the, you know, can't is our it's like a stress
test or a to see how machines are working?
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Right. And if you read the Twitter files,
you'll see that there's just as much talk of suppression as
there is of amplification.
Unknown: Correct. And that's why I think that's why I call it
micro Mockingbird because you don't need all these established
agents anymore. And assets. We could take anybody and they're
so happy to be viral. They don't have to ask me questions, you
know. And that's kind of how Candice came about, if you think
about it, because she made the I'm walking away, or a black
suit or a black black person is no longer gonna be a Democrat.
And they were like, yes, no fire interesting and fired up. And
they put all the resources behind her. So thank you for
your explanation of Mockingbird, we can go and get into 23. And
it is just further about what you just explain.
So I feel pretty comfortable stating that if the entire
mainstream media network is for or against something, you should
probably edit your opinions to be the opposite of what theirs
is because it's pretty clear that they don't act.
Adam Curry: Wait. What she said is the entire mainstream is
doing one thing you should do the opposite. Is that what she
said?
Unknown: But then then the entire man? Did we just hear
from the heel, the entire mainstream got behind? No, it
wasn't a heel, it was on Alex Jones set of clips that the
entire mainstream got behind daily wire.
Adam Curry: Yes. Isn't that interesting?
Unknown: Let's get to you,
you should probably edit your opinions to be the opposite of
what theirs is because it's pretty clear that they don't
actually have any individual opinions. These journalists,
right. They're always in lockstep on various narratives.
So yeah, it does sound like they are a bunch of mockingbirds,
which is appropriate, of course, because that was the CIA program
title. It was called Operation Mockingbird, you are not a
conspiracy theorist for knowing the truth. And you are correct.
If you know about the mockingbird being something that
the CIA has never discontinued.
Yeah, they never discontinued it. Hmm. No, of course not.
Sorry. All work for big tech. And big tech get from it. 2020
leaks that they take their marching orders from alphabet
letter agencies. You know, three letter agencies? Yeah. So they
directly or indirectly work for
Adam Curry: the government for the government? Well, and let's
just let's make it very clear. CIA runs the whole show. CIA is
very careful. They control the FBI. The CIA runs the
President's except for Trump. That was probably the Defense
Intelligence Agency. Everyone's very afraid in, in Washington of
the CIA, they're out of control. There's no oversight. No one
knows how much money they have. No one knows what they do. And
they run the show, they run the entire show. In my opinion,
Unknown: I believe you're correct on that. But I just find
it interesting that she made this show prior to the release
of what was going on. And even. It's, it's crazy that even to
bring up Operation Mockingbird or or plague, paperclip or
whatever, whatever operation used to be. You can't say that
or you become a tinfoil hat wear now is, it's okay to bring it
up. You know, it's okay for Tucker to talk about it for her
to talk about it, and still be taken as a serious journalist.
Adam Curry: Ah, and that's what I mean by limited hangout.
There.
Unknown: I get what you're saying. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I mean, this is this is what makes it work. This is
that perfect, perfect combination of put something out
that people go oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Right on. And then that's
all you need. That's all you need.
Unknown: The only thing I'm pushing back against is not
against you to Fox, if you're listening. It's not working. It
only makes you a little worse. If the desired effect is doing
the opposite,
Adam Curry: right? Because now the numbers are killing it.
That's ultimately that's all they care about. The ratings I
get feeling it but yes, I agree that in the long run and long
run, they'll lose. I believe that too.
Unknown: Yeah, cuz this is makes it like the other 23 hours where
for news like, oh, and it makes it stick out like a sore thumb
with your analysis of being a limited hangout. It's like it
has to be. Because if it was business related, like, oh, we
need more Tucker's you know, we
Adam Curry: need to get this whole Blockly. Exactly. For
seven
Unknown: to 10 with more Tucker like thought process or thought
like
Adam Curry: thinkers like the school of thought. Yes. People?
Yes. Your ad that proves it right there. Absolutely.
Unknown: So I'm with you on that one. But they, they don't
understand this, just like they came up with the term fake news.
And they didn't, not them, but the mainstream media. And I
don't think they understood how people were going to take that
and weaponize it back against them. Your it was that you're
dealing with a smarter audience. Now it was I don't think they
realized that.
Adam Curry: Well, I think Trump Trump caught that from them. And
he's the one that turned he didn't invent the fake news. He
turned it around and use it as a weapon against them.
Unknown: This was saying the mainstream media invented it.
It's the same thing. It's like they invent these things. They
don't understand how memes work. You know, like a fat check like,
man, if you fat check something. That's a that's a roundabout way
of saying is true.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, pretty much and people all know that
it's bullcrap.
Unknown: Correct. So let's go ahead and get into the second
part of this Operation Mockingbird.
First and foremost, in case you are not aware of what Operation
Mockingbird was, and still is, it was a large scale project
undertaken by the CIA, beginning in the 1950s, in which they
recruited American journalists into a propaganda network. The
recruited journalists were put on payroll by the CIA, which
means me and you, we paid for that, and instructed to write
fake stories that promoted the views of the intelligence
agencies. So some journalists were assets to the CIA and were
on the payroll. Other journalists were unsuspecting
assets of the CIA, because they thought that they had a leak
that they were being given information. And they ran with
the stories because they thought they were being told the truth,
Adam Curry: right, ever since Donald Trump was president,
we've heard sources say sources familiar with the President's
thinking sources who are in the know, that's your intelligence,
right? Their
Unknown: Sources close to the matter, closest
Adam Curry: sources I like, I like the sources familiar with
the President's thinking, that's always my fair.
Unknown: What it like, like I say, I'm just laying this out,
in her own words. Now, if you look through the lands that
she's creating, at what transpired between Daley wire
and Crowder, it makes them look like agents.
Adam Curry: Yes, five by five.
Unknown: And I think they have to, I think they realized that
and that's why she had to come out. So those A B move, and it's
about the money it was about always about the money. Do you
want it $120 million? And you know, it's, it's about the
money? Oh, is that your and I just had to reiterate this
point. You work for the government. That whole operation
is for the IRS, maybe indirectly, but you work for the
government, there's like it was okay. You had to get the okay
signal to start questioning, questioning the jab. Now, they
had to get bit they had to look both ways. It's like okay, now
we can start questioning Fauci. You will you all in for it. When
I say you daily wire as an operation, we're all in on for
the jab, you're gonna kill Grandma, you know that that was
there, you know that we're using those kind of talking points.
But then it's like, okay, we need to pivot. And this is this
is this is white supremacy, taking both sides the argument
or all sides of the argument, you know, to the point where if
you're this is the problem with binary because you bought into
the binary itself. You're, you're taking the bait? Yeah.
Don't buy it. Look, look for that. That's kind of what we try
to do here is the shades of grey. We're not on Team Crowder,
or I'm Team daily wire, you know, no, it's a far bigger
narrative that we need to be looking at other than just like
snow conservative beef, right. All right. So this is all
documentary. And this is how the media are used by the CIA to
manipulate public opinion. Last, I was gonna be public public
opinion, lies, disinformation, and covert actions. So this is a
former agent. He's going to like just give us more how the
sausage is made. We don't have to listen to all of them. I
thought it was just interesting to hear it from the court. his
mouth,
I sent over a paper to the State Department for the press Rep The
Huddinge. Carter, you know, the guy that speaks out every day on
world events to read, and I had four paragraphs and it because
the situation was changing that night. And I said, you know,
with a no call us before you go on the air in the morning, I'll
tell you which paragraph to read. And they were all for
totally false. And make as a matter of fact, they called in
the morning and I said, you know, paragraph three, and they
read paragraph three and, and went with it, you know, which is
utter complicity in putting out the propaganda, the
disinformation. So that was the CIA giving information to the
State
Department to put out on our media.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, this is this is very important that I
liked these clips. So the State Department is very important,
because they are they have around the world embassies. So
you will find that most people who work at an embassy are in
fact assets. They are intelligence agents. The State
Department has their own intelligence agency, which is
small but very effective. I think Hillary Clinton last man
is that very well. So it's basically if you look at all of
it, there's what's 1516 intelligence agencies, also
known as the IC, the intelligence community. This is
this is what they do. Now. There's not a lot of jumping out
of airplanes and, and spying anymore listening through walls.
I'm sure it happens. But this is really what they do is drive the
message in court. This is also when President John F. Kennedy
said, you know, hey, we got secret societies. He was talking
about the intelligence apparatus, and they killed him
over
Unknown: the CIA has assaulted agents throughout the Congress.
Every committee done this, you know, did it three decades ago?
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. This is the Senate Intelligence
Oversight Committee, all spooks.
Unknown: And we're seeing it once again, but it's standard.
But we did have in November of 75, we had the CIA director,
Bill Colby, who had been putting out our, our propaganda line to
the Senate in our our lives, was tied up on a trip or something.
And so Bill Nelson, the Deputy Director of Operations went over
to stand in for him. And he said before he went, I'm not going to
lie. And he'd just flat said it in a staff meeting. He said, I'm
retiring in three weeks and I'll be damned if I'm going to spend
my retirement answering perjury charges. So he went over there
and told the truth. Now ambassador, Mulcahy said one
thing. And then Nelson testified and said exactly the opposite.
And so they had a direct head and head contradiction. And so
the senators nailed Mulcahy, one of you gentleman is lying. And
some okay asked for the opportunity to speak again and
which he clarified his state and told the truth. But the
interesting thing was that that testimony refuted everything
else. We've been saying for three months. They did not
investigate and follow up on it and indict. Especially bill
called me for perjury, which they could have on the basis of
that, and they just let it you know, let it go. There was no
follow up to it.
Adam Curry: Yes. And the reason for that is the pure fright most
people in Washington have. For the intelligence agencies, you
recall, and I see if I can find it. Chuck Schumer. I don't think
I have this. He was on a Rachel Maddow Show. And he was saying
to Sunday, that's right. He was saying how stupid how stupid
Tria Trump was to go against the intelligence agencies because
you know, they have six ways to Sunday to get back at you.
Because Schumer knows it was brilliant moment.
Unknown: The emphasis of this documentary is about the CIA in
the media. But there is a larger framework in this to which we
talked about in our program, from time to time, that is the
overall line of the State Department, the White House, is
this a coordinated thing? Or do all these organizations just do
their lying separately, and it adds up to one big falsehood,
read Noam Chomsky is turning the turning the tide to get a
feeling for for the way our, you know, it's what they call the
establishment in the 60s, the way they are committed. The
elites that run the country, which includes the State
Department and the CI and presidents and politicians. They
have a charter, you know, to run the country in their interest.
And this means that they they are not exactly lockstep, but
they just presume to have the right to mislead people. It's
part of the way the United States is and God knows most
other countries as well. They are not bound by honesty and
integrity.
Adam Curry: And this is I think this this showed up on YouTube
not too long ago. It's a 1983 interview is agent and I'll put
that link for the full interview. We have most of it
here, but put that in, in the show notes. And let's just
listen. Okay, last one, since I'm digging this, I like hearing
this.
Unknown: Their whole ethic is they're doing illegal things.
And they're, you know, they teach you from the first day in
training cover stories. And you practice them at length, and the
director practices them and when he briefs the Congress, he does
the cover stories. Now, White House staffers are not trained
professionally. But they're, it's in the ethics of politics,
ethics of the business. They're putting out a myth about the
world a myth about the United States nature. Chomsky notes
that the compelling force, the ethic against which all foreign
policy decisions are made, is defense of the fifth freedom.
You know, the four freedoms were Roosevelt and Churchill and
January of 41, we were fighting the war for the freedom of
speech, freedom of religion, freedom from want freedom from
fear. And the fifth freedom is what you know, is compelled our
actions in reality, then in every sense, and that's the
United States freedom to rob, exploit and kill. And every you
know, every situation is measured by our right or
imperial design. Stop,
stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. I want you to rewind
it back, maybe 10 seconds. And when he says the fifth freedom,
listen to the coal laughter Here we go.
You know, the four freedoms were Roosevelt and Churchill and
January of 41, we were fighting the war for the freedom of
speech, freedom of religion, freedom from want freedom from
fear. And the fifth freedom is what you know, is compelled our
actions in reality, then in every sense, and that's the
United States freedom to rob exploit and kill. And every you
know, every situation is measured by our right. Our
Imperial right. It's not a divine right, but our Imperial
right.
Yep. Did you deny me? He was like, Yeah, that's true. Yeah,
we do. We do kill like a mug. Yeah. Well, like,
Adam Curry: just look at our lifetimes. Mo. If you're Brown,
and you live in a sandy area, Jared, you're in trouble. You
know,
Unknown: they tell me I'm crazy. When I use the term white
supremacy, when they throw around terms like establishment
imperialism, same thing. That's, that's the same as that theme.
The only problem is, those are like off whimsical names, you
know, that doesn't really give you any identifier. You know,
just like, Oh, yes, the Empire? Well, you know, just the Empire
would just kill him like we normally do. But how
Adam Curry: about this for a thought, you know, the whole
reason behind the acceleration and amplification of racial
division, specifically, white black, is for this reason, so
that you can't expose the white supremacy.
Unknown: They definitely they're hiding in plain sight and that
they're, they're pushing the orange people out there to be
the face of white supremacy by Oh, yeah, that's that's the
that's the white supremacy, but at the same time, using their
tactics and power to treat them like people of color. Correct.
There's their stripping away. This is why I say a privilege is
given to you. And only whites, the premises can give that
privilege. They have supremacy that they don't need privilege.
Oh, we can just like that last that. laughs
Adam Curry: Yeah. It's cold.
Unknown: It's cold is yes. Yes, we kill We lie. And notice the
four freedoms that they were talking about before, is exactly
what's under attack right now. Yeah, their freedom of religion,
the freedom of speech, the freedom of lack of fear, to live
without fear. Now, you need to be afraid all the time. You need
to watch what you say. You're saying don't be vocal about what
you believe. And I forgot what the I think the last love a
freedom. A won't know you need to be dependent on the
government. Yeah. And we're and we're going to use the fifth
freedom, Timothy, for sure. You know, we manipulate those four
first four freedoms.
Adam Curry: We will look at Afghanistan, look at Ukraine,
look at Taiwan will be next. And this benefit. Go ahead.
Unknown: Look at the neighborhoods that Soros is
destroying with agents. Those criminals are agents of sorrows.
I don't care what you say. him getting them out of jail. And
they they're running like they're running know these
neighborhoods. In beatin old people and robbing stores and
everything else that they're given white privilege to these
criminals Yep, like yes that fear freedom yeah we're gonna
get your criminal criminals privileged to exercise that fear
freedom on who it doesn't matter to people close to proximity the
rest right allows you to create the fear and the wall and they
better not say anything you know this this this is why I do what
I do because when you have a view, Neely Fuller said if you
don't understand white supremacy and how it works everything else
will confuse you. Yes, fusion and chaos is the goal is just
the lat that I you know what I that's the first time I heard
that laugh as many times I listen to the clip clipping it
and put it that laugh. Like yeah, this is what we do. Yeah,
like that's troubling to me. That's troubling but that was
back in the day. I think you said 1983 83 Yeah. Tucker
Carlson he's gonna get in the way he does and like I'm glad
they're saying that out in public cuz it get allows us to
clip it and break it down and analyze it well when this is how
it works.
Adam Curry: I was just gonna say so this is Tucker is perfect for
this role. Cuz he I listened to CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS all
the time. And usually in the car because of the Sirius XM so I
can hear the cable news as well. And to the tee, every single
show our email burn, Joy read all of them. Erin Burnett on
CNN, Anderson Cooper CIA asset. They're all playing little
clips, little clips of intros to the stories that come from
Twitter. And they're just saying, Wow, they've gone so
nuts over there at five Tucker Carlson has gone completely
nuts. He thinks the FBI was running Twitter. Oh, no. Listen
to this stupid conspiracy theory. So they completely
steal. They use this to steer everyone away. Because that's
just not job Tucker Carlson. That's just you know, Tucker
Carlson doesn't even believe and Trump has to text messages,
which of course is very nuanced. So it is the perfect the perfect
opportunity to distract everyone into believing that this is just
another fake news conspiracy theory from from Fox News and
conservative media that Twitter was running or that the FBI was
running Twitter, by the way. Time magazine 2010. Mark
Zuckerberg man of the year that we talked about this, I'm sure
we've talked about
Unknown: this before. No, I don't think we have Okay,
Adam Curry: I'm gonna. I've talked about it so much that you
see 2010 Man of the Year, Mark Zuckerberg, Time Magazine, he's
in the interview itself. It's printed. You can I'll put the
link in the show notes. Zuckerberg is talking to Time
Magazine doing an interview and then it says all of a sudden,
and
Unknown: oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So the clip, but I
wish
Adam Curry: I wish it were a clip all of a sudden, man man
puts it in, you know, sticks his face in the door. Hey, you know,
I was just downstairs in my office in the building. Just
want to say hi. And that was Robert Mueller, Director of FBI
who was director of FBI two years longer than statutorily
permitted. They had to have to carry over from 2008 into Barack
Obama's term. They allowed him to stay on as FBI Director two
more years against the law because FBI had such a bad
reputation from its history, which we've discussed on this
very show that no director was allowed to be director for more
than 10 years except Robert Mahler. We had to keep him for a
couple extra years, because he knew where all the bodies were
buried. And there he was, in the face book offices. And even in
the reporting of the article, the journalist said that was one
of the weirdest things I ever saw. And no one really knew what
to do with it, because that's how they've been in these in
these companies for some since day one.
Unknown: way Wait, this is the mind screw. Take two steps back
and look at it. We Mia, you both know who created the internet
and social media, of course, is the government running this NGO
governmental organization? That's the thing like the way
they frame it is like, oh, Facebook is this corporation
independent and it has government oversight. You No, is
a government agency with private facing CEO. Look at its
cognitive dissonance. I hate to say this, but because I hear
people say this all the time, and when people say I had COVID,
three times four times, it's like how do you know? How do you
know you had COVID? We all know the PCR test is bullcrap. Even
people didn't know that you were saying you didn't know. I'm just
saying this. This is how speak. It's tricky this stuff is that
they'll stop, you know, and believe they'll have you speak
against it out to be a contrary, correct. We both know who
created us and Facebook. We know that was a government creation.
So why wouldn't it be ran by the government? Isn't it kind of
like oh, is this government oversight?
Adam Curry: The door, the door opened, I'm reading from the
article The door opened a distinguished looking gray
haired man burst in. It's the only way to describe his
entrance trailed by a couple of deputies. He was both the oldest
person in the room 2010 by 20 years and the only one wearing a
suit he was in the building. He explained with the delighted air
of a man about the secure ironclad bragging rights
forever. He just had to stop in and introduce himself to
Zuckerberg, Robert Mueller, Director of the FBI Pleased to
meet you. They all shook hands and chatted about nothing for a
couple of minutes. Then Muller left. There was a giddy silence
giddy silence while everybody just looked at one another as if
to say what the hell just happened. In Q tel go look at in
Kyoto ecotel Is the venture capital firm of the CIA. Not
they're not hiding it. And they they funded many of these
companies, including Palantir.
Unknown: That's my point. He's like, this is these are correct.
These were government created pretty much entities. The NSA is
no alphabet, you know, saying the history of alphabet, you
know, every all of this. But they'll make it seem like oh,
no, we're just oversight. That's all we're doing. No, no, I'm not
gonna fall. Because if you fall for it, then you're living in
our false reality. We know what Twitter is. We know what
Facebook is.
Adam Curry: Everything is fake. Everything we know is fake. When
they say the simulation, yeah, kind of media is the simulation.
It's all fake. It's been that way for a long, long time.
Unknown: And that's why they hate people like us, when we
come in actually have a conversation like this. Other
people say I've noticed that too. And then I noticed that as
well, I noticed that I noticed that and it becomes infectious.
And that's why they want to control all sides of it. Because
they cannot have people, whatever. Free thinking you have
they want to give it to you. Right? Yeah, you can you can
have this idea along, pick pick pick from it, you know, pick any
idea you want from this table? So I don't want one of those
ideas. It's like, oh, no,
Adam Curry: you got to pick from one of these only one of them.
Unknown: Does this all go? Quickly. Let's go through these
clips. But I want to show how ingrained the government is in
these organizations to the point it makes me think these are
government organizations we know with private, out facing
representation.
Let's say you were trying to staff a social media site. Who
would you hire? Well, obviously since it's a tech business, you
would hire tech people, coders, software engineers to keep the
place running. Then you'd hire administrative staff because you
had to some lawyers, a caterer flack or to maybe an interior
decorator if you wanted HQ to look good. But how many spies
Would you hire? Well, probably none. spies have nothing to do
with the mission of a social media company, they would not be
needed. And you wouldn't hire any opera singers either. Yet,
for some reason, Twitter seems to need an awful lot of spies,
the upper ranks of Twitter, we now know, we're absolutely
loaded with people who wanted Intel work for government
agencies, at least 15 of these people and possibly many more.
Most of them are hired in the wake of Donald Trump's election.
Now, what were these people doing all day? And what was
supposedly a social media company? Well, that's the
question, isn't it?
Adam Curry: loaded, loaded, loaded, loaded up to.
Unknown: We know that James Baker came from the FBI has been
accused of secretly censoring incriminating internal files
before Elon Musk could release them to the public. Baker was
fired for that. So that's some of what James Baker was doing at
Twitter. But how about Charles Smith of Twitter's Trust and
Safety Department? Smith joined Twitter after working at US
Cyber Command. Hey, We're about Jeff to conjure formerly the
director of naval counterintelligence what was he
doing? Or Kevin michelina or duck hunter, Mark Jaruzelski or
Douglas Turner, Karen Walsh, Russell hand or Vincent Lou
Sarah. All of these people once worked for the FBI as well.
Their colleague Jeff Carlton came from the CIA. Patrick
Conlon once worked at the NSA, and so on. And it wasn't just
American Intel officers who found a home at Twitter, the
company hired foreign spies to in January Peters that CO was
fired from his position as Twitter's head of security.
Reportedly, that CO lost his job because he complained about the
level of control that foreign intelligence agencies had over
virtually all of Twitter's operations. According to Zack
CO, they were operatives on Twitter's payroll from other
governments, including China in India, and they had access to
private user data. And those are just the details that we know
about.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's called Capture, of course, but they
said it wasn't even captured. They were there. For them. It's
very, it's very much like the big pharma and the FDA. So Scott
Gottlieb, who was on CNBC all the time, as an analyst, he
speaks about vaccines, mainly. He was administrator at the FDA,
and he left and he became, he's on the board of Pfizer.
Unknown: You know, the government owns your data, they
own everything, and they and they can do whatever they want
with it. This is not our organization with a few
governmental, you know, appoint a former government appointees
and it No, this is a government organization period. In this
story, this is obviously you can't be any other way.
Adam Curry: It is. They all are.
Unknown: And if not that in Oh, who we get to fix it. The brain
chip guy. Monkey? Yeah, that's gonna save you. Well, just the
Rocket Man, you
Adam Curry: know, this, this is the problem. And I laid it out
for Joe Rogan. And he kind of looked at me like said, dude,
Elon Musk works for the government. And it's not a
secret that every you know, my favorite was, it was, you know,
and this was a great way to do with Starlink. I love Starlink.
Starling. Because great Starlink. But no, it's not. That
would never be profitable just for just for consumers. No, no.
So he had to put everything into Ukraine and then say, well, you
know, Ukraine, you're using it for offensive, it was supposed
to only be defensive. So I'm gonna turn it off. But he didn't
turn it off. No, he just, he just opened up the true. The
true company, which is called I think it's called Star Shield is
the same technology only the Ukrainian government has to pay
for it for military purposes. So of course,
Unknown: you see the same exact thing like we create something
that this government created exactly opening up for the
public to use. Yep. And do you think you have a private
corporation? No. You think that we give Zuckerberg that much
power? Come on? Think about it. Look at the guy. She's a lizard.
Adam Curry: Here's back to Tucker,
Unknown: you on, Musk was asked recently how many former FBI
agents are currently employed by Twitter? But he wouldn't say
it's all pretty weird. Could it be there while the rest of us
imagined that Twitter was a social media site, a place to
vent about politics and sports and the Kardashians? Could it be
that Twitter was actually maybe primarily a propaganda tool and
intelligence gathering apparatus for a variety of Intel agencies?
Well, yes, that's possible. And you can see why various
governments would want access to the information that Twitter
had. Keep in mind that Twitter's direct message to DM feature
function for many years as a kind of private text app for
some of the world's most prominent people. So if you want
to know what high government officials really thought, if you
wanted to know what well informed sources, were telling
reporters off the record, you would want to see those
messages. Did Twitter executives ever share those DMS those
private messages with anyone outside the company without a
warrant? We strongly suspect that they did.
Adam Curry: No, please. You they don't have to because the FBI
could just look at it themselves. And they have the
portal can get right in that my favorite is Gmail. Go look at
the terms and service of Gmail right there. It says we read
your email, you know, to help you and it's it's amazing how
many even the intelligence agencies use Gmail. They all use
Gmail.
Unknown: But the biggest sign up is we we know we don't have
privacy. It's Hello wasn't that the whole thing with? What was
the Patriot Act? And yeah, all the spying? No more freedom.
Yeah. Now we're arguing over the freedom does not exist in the
first place. What what are we doing here? It's like
Adam Curry: That's exactly right. And that was the warning
about the Patriot Act. It was written before it was written
two weeks before it got passed. It was already written out. It's
where it were frogs in the boiling pot. Well, not you and I
were of course, right. We're in the sauna over there. Hanging
out with our crystal water hot water. Make me laugh again,
stop. Oh, sorry.
Unknown: Is that was 32?
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got no 30. Here's the last one. Just last
Tucker clip,
Unknown: of course resides on Twitter servers, along with a
lot else. Think about it. If Twitter has been functioning as
the arm of government, Intel agencies and clearly it has
been, then its internal documents will contain
information about all kinds of things, not just about the
silencing of Donald Trump, not just about Tony Fauci is
buffoonish lies about the COVID shot, no information about Big
History shaping events, the sabotage of Nord Stream two, for
example, the supposin Poison gas attacks in Syria, both of them
the imprisonment of Julian Assange, why is he there? The
theft of incriminating emails from the DNC, what was that
story, the motive behind the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and
much, much more. In other words, Elon Musk now has control of the
most significant trove of secret information ever to reside in
private hands. So far, we have not seen much of it. And you
have to wonder why we haven't. Let's hope that we do.
Adam Curry: Yeah, Dream on. One last personal experience. I know
Elon Musk, I met him we had the same investors in the mid 2000s.
Completely unimpressive man. Not impressive at all. He doesn't
even write most of his tweets. I guarantee you. He's not he's not
writing that. He is a complete cut out.
Unknown: Before we go to the next donation segment. I just
want to bring up one point. You remember what they said about
the record of sex? What do you mean all those guys have phones?
What do you even know their names? Right? It's the same way
on that in that in that arena, that there's a level above these
guys, Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are people that we
don't know their names, but that they sign artists, like you
know, they sign Elon and Zuckerberg, I know someone and
they perform
Adam Curry: great. I know some of them. I mean, look at the
money. It's John Doerr. at Kleiner Perkins, it's roll on,
roll on buta also South African who runs Sequoia Capital. And
they have masters to the same guys who pumped in hundreds of
millions of dollars into FTX. The smartest investors in the
world mind you, they did everything. Oh, they're so
smart. They didn't do any diligence. They were in fact
they were blown away that Sam bank when fried was playing
video games during the pitch meeting. I mean, that thing oh
man, and that's gonna go straight to Stanford University.
One of these days some of it will come out. We'll figure some
of it out. Probably not all of it. But it is a as George Carlin
said it's a big it's a big club and you're not in it. Exactly.
Unknown: Exactly. However one club you can be is exactly isn't
mo faction. Like Brandon money. I
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bill I haven't seen a woman is good looking at $100 bill.
Here's something that excites you.
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Unknown: so we have two more pieces of information to go
through before we wrap up. Warming news benders I have you
heard this or seen this is the BBC I think like 1970s It was it
was fictitious but but very accurate.
Adam Curry: No. So kind of satirical. Yes. Okay. Maybe when
I hear it but the name sounds kind of familiar. But I'd love
to hear it to get refreshed Quick,
Unknown: quick oversight, just so people know what's going on
here. This is kind of how a agent would get brought in and
looped into the the powers that be like they had been kept an
eye on you. They liked the work you're doing and then they let
you come in you know and access another ram of power. This is
kind of like the introduction in the CLO we're not in Okay, so.
So I thought this is great. You're saying you can stop it as
you please. I think some of the clips are a little longer so you
can stop me clip if you like. Anything you find interesting.
Let's going jumping Awkward number 34.
Guys, we got to come here
to knockin. But I couldn't see what let's see WNS would run
with me. Still can't
know anything about it.
I was working for the BBC. See WNS set up midway between the
government of the TV companies, anytime the newsreel boys put on
stuff and security, classification wars, weapons,
political leaks, they get their film to this office.
What do we know about Larkin? Robert
sample is its family, man, good family.
Good education. But you turned your back on all that. A little
bit of everything. Six years ago, there were those shows you
did on alcoholism, love sports. Some clearance. People called
you bright, they bright. Other words, they use
hard hitting battle.
Now you do only four shows a year. The critics called and
really unfair high in the ratings. And well, the souffles
soft in the center. Don't think I'm complaining. Oh, you could
complain if you want to just call it a friendly professional
to know what happened to alcoholism. Let's
call it reaching the age of 35. Call it school fees to fix the
dresses call it Jordan establishment college being a
socialist for 15 years and a company I've never been
socialist.
Adam Curry: I don't think I've heard these before.
Unknown: Okay, so just for people with this, this to catch
them up to speed. He's basically on an interview without knowing
it. The one gentleman, you know, has all his background
information. And he's saying basically, that, you know, used
to make these hard hitting pieces, which makes me think of
Tucker mount. Yeah, yeah, used to make these hard hitting
pieces. And all of a sudden now it's through flames and like
what happened, and he's like, you know, two kids and no
joining establishment in ah, like, this is the I think this
is more powerful than money is the access. And I spoke about
this before on the show, is when I was separated from my company,
better your occupation is tied into your identity for a large
part, you know, oh toe. So when you get divorced from that, it's
kind of like who am I? And I think a lot of people don't want
to reinvent themselves. So I just wanted to break down what's
going on here because it might be like, no hard to understand
what's going on in the beginning. But that's, you know,
that's the setup, so we can get more into it now with 35.
What do you want?
People in love. work for us. Nothing more sinister than that.
All this just offered me a job, special
sort of job. The newspapers talk about the corridors of power,
the power elite. Let's just say, We'd like you to join the Club.
There's a vacancy in our newsreel department. We'd like
you to help plan the news for 1973. Come again, plan the news
for 1973.
What you're doing, I just want to make sure that sunlights real
I always tell people news is the most highly developed the most
difficult
Adam Curry: make the news for 1973. Please.
Unknown: Yeah, they're planning the news for years to come.
Which I think in some ways, it's done for us now. Yeah, don't you
kind of can't predict what I mean. We do it with this show.
Yeah, this is why you say you're from the future. You know, and
we had to do goggles and things of that nature. If you watch
news enough, you can kind of tell what's gonna be next. Right
now like superpower? I don't think not, you know, to diminish
it, but I have the same thing. It's it's patterns that you
Adam Curry: know, you can just wait for it you can just wait
for it, you know, what's coming and whatever was successful,
they'll do it again.
Unknown: And that's the that's the beauty of it, you know, in a
sinister way, is they just feed you more of what you like. It's
kind of like your suggestion on your social media is like, Oh,
you like that kind of video. Let me give it to him more like it
Adam Curry: not kind of like exactly like, Okay.
Unknown: Want to move on?
Adam Curry: Let's play. Which one is play one more? I got
3637 38 Which one should I play? Do you know which one is?
Unknown: Let's just jump now with the 39 to the to the to the
last
Adam Curry: one. Okay, well, I won't
Unknown: buy it
you must admit there has to be some kind of control in this
world of that. And remember that one quarter of the world is
starving. There are the full bellies and the empty bellies.
Some of the empty bellies carry rifles. Well, we fooled that is
getting a bit flabby. We're not very good with rifles anymore.
So we've devised two ways to keep you up to Bell is under
control. One of them is this fictitious hydrogen bomb we
talked about is money, enough money to fill some of the empty
bellies to put a hopeful smile on the faces of the others. A
great wall of money all around Britain. And it's no secret that
the British economy's in trouble at the moment. So we have to put
that right to to stay alive. We have to control the people in
this country. Scarran ostrich that has its head in the sand.
To scare a hedgehog it rolls itself up into football. When a
woman's frightened she goes out and buys herself a hat.
You mean you scare us. So that will buy more so that sort of
money moves quicker production moves up. We
don't say scale when we talk about human beings we say
threatened them emotionally. And there all sorts of ways of doing
not just the big ones like the hydrogen bomb. overcrowd them a
little with bad planning, sell them too many motorcars anything
to keep them a little bit removed from reality. Nowadays,
people don't work for money. They weren't for the idea of
money. They don't even love for love. They love for the idea of
love. They only hate for the idea of hate.
Adam Curry: Wow, this is the OG limited Hangout right here.
That's great. I know people have emailed me about this. I don't
think I've ever watched it fully. So it's good to hear
this. But yeah, people have told me you got to watch this. And
now I get it. Totally.
Unknown: And isn't it fascinating. The two things that
he talked about? Well, three things he said the full bellies
and empty bellies, which food is a big thing now story? Yep.
Nuclear war. Yep. And inflation and financial
Adam Curry: security. Yeah, it's the trifecta right there.
Unknown: And they're, they use they work. It worked before
Leslie's run it back.
Adam Curry: And by the way, we also have a way to profit off of
that ourselves. It's called Big Pharma. Here's a pill.
Unknown: We got a pill for everything. You're doing it to
ages.
Adam Curry: By the way, you overweight or you obese because
of the shit you're eating? Don't worry, we have ozempic.
Unknown: I'm waiting for the nuclear repeal. But it'll
protect
Adam Curry: you from the nuke. Yeah, nice. Well, that's what
Alex Jones has it already iodine pills.
Unknown: So now, but they gotta have, they gotta have a big
pharma version of it. Like I'm gonna like a new vaccine. So
Adam Curry: it'll protect you from the fallout?
Unknown: Well, speaking appeals, this last three clips right here
is hopefully because we I always prided myself on not leaving
people in despair. No. And this is courtesy of a class he sent
me this set of clips. And I just want to say, the last scheduled
date, we had to record this show. We didn't go through with
this and that thing. Right. And that was a day a lot of my
friends and former colleagues were laid off from our former
place of employment,
Adam Curry: right. And were these were these even if I
understand it, rightly, people who had refused to take the
vaccine, were invited back to the company. And this and then
were let go let go because they chopped jobs.
Unknown: Yeah, that's crazy. Which remember that ship
shortage now is the chip glut. So I mean, just to show you how
to go on from the previous clips, well,
Adam Curry: it was the chips act, they got $2 trillion, or
some some crazy amount like that.
Unknown: Right, but we can't keep people employed. Did you
make that make sense? Yeah. Oops. So with that said, this is
how you control your own power, your own security. This is Earl
Nightingale, courtesy of my man II class. And I tell them what
you sent me this clip. I was like you made the show. Let's go
ahead and run through these cocktails would be very helpful,
is own point on topic about what Crowder was going through maybe
maybe he doesn't want to go work for anybody else I can relate is
a certain security and in working for yourself So let's go
ahead and go through these right quick. And then we can wrap up
the show, we are
what we think about our minds, our thinking controls our
destinies here on earth to a degree totally unsuspected, but
a great majority of people. When you think about it, the moment
it becomes so obvious, so clear and simple. Well, then, if we
become what we think about, and if we can control our minds, we
can pretty well tell our own future. And that's the point I
want to make. That's what I meant when I said earlier, that
each one of us is the architect of the structure fashioned by
our years. This means that if we're confused about what we
wish to become or accomplish our lives, our environment will
mirror that confusion. It also means that if we know what it
is, we seek, that it will, it must be accomplished. barring an
act of God or a catastrophe over which we have no control. We as
individuals can call our own shots for the rest of our lives,
we can know what it means to go through life, from one success
to another, to play life according to the rules and reap
the rewards. We can know what it means to have peace of mind, and
live calm, cheerful, successful lives. You are at this moment,
the sum total of your thoughts to this point, for there is
nothing else you can be. This is for a very famous radio guy,
Earl Nightingale very, very famous. Yeah, he's
Adam Curry: 1000s of programs.
Unknown: And the one that changed my life was the
strangest secret you need to go listen to if you haven't. And as
he said, we're, we're a product of our thoughts. Now, hopefully
people understand why that media is so important for population
control, for Mind Control, because they get you in the
morning. I told you my my old phone would feed me news
stories. And my alarm clock. Yeah, the alarm clock would go
off. And I these are the stories you need to think about for
today, basically. And it was if I if I allowed it, it would
shake my day, which I didn't. But I just found it fascinating
that from your wake of your sleep. Oh, yeah, they they have
you tapped in and then it's just a 24 hour cycle of feeding you
things to be reactive to and like you said with the frogs,
the frog what reacts to the water?
Adam Curry: For over a year, my wife Tina and I, we have changed
our morning routine. Because of course, it's very easy to
certainly for me to start right away with oh, what's going on? I
see what's happening. What was the news? What happened
overnight, what did we start by first saying good morning to
Holy Spirit. Then then we read, you know, we read some
scripture. And I gotta tell you, you know, I'll read like a
devotional, I'm like, Okay, let me see where that comes from.
And I'll just go and read that piece. And man, it puts me in
the right mood, then I can I can tackle any of it. You so right
doing that from the minute you get up getting jacked in. I
mean, it's there you go 100% matrix, that that's what they
want. The matrix is real. It's not it's the depiction was
science fiction. But it really is real. And the best way to
protect yourself is to not connect or connect with caution.
Correct.
Unknown: decide to become a professional at your business.
You see, we can either compete or create. If we compete with
all the other people in our line of work, we must be willing to
accept the same rewards, if that's what we want fine. But if
we want to become professionals of what we do, then we must
create. And when we begin to do this, there is no limit to that
which we can achieve. We hear a lot these days about a word
called security. Everyone wants security, but not one in 10 can
tell you what it is. Most people will tell you that security
risks with a job. This is impossible. There is no such
thing as a job that represents security. Anyone with a job can
lose it for any one of 1000 reasons at any time. There is
only one place on earth you can find security and if it isn't
there, it isn't anywhere it's inside of a person
Adam Curry: yeah this guy so good.
Unknown: I love that voice
security constant with an and me you have a conversation I was
like oh no what I want to do you know saying like is is starting
over? is a scary thought. And you want to go back to what are
secure but it only confirmed the fact that what you consider is
secure isn't is smoking mirrors you lived in that you lived it
yourself personally, right? Because if I wouldn't either
kowtow out or no didn't strike out when I did and I will still
be there. was very point one year later almost to the date, I
would have been the same as that position.
Adam Curry: Yeah, would have been a lot, a lot less, it would
have been shittier. Right and
Unknown: much right. Now that's true, that is true. So here's
the last and final clip. But I'm saying this is for all people
out there, do what you love to do be proactive. My suggestion
and practice the seven habits. And the first one is be
proactive, because we all have a talent, we all have a skill. You
just have to believe in yourself. And it's not mumbo
jumbo. But you have to get your mind set on that thought. Now,
because before that a year ago came, it was many, many years
and years before that the thought of I need to be doing
something else. But just figuring out what it was. So we
can get to the last clip now.
There is only one place on Earth, you can find security.
And if it isn't there, it isn't anywhere. It's inside of a
prison. Never outside. If a man has security inside where it
belongs, his wife and children can feel it when he sits down to
eat with them. And they're warmed by it. If a man has
security inside where it belongs, you can see it walking
down the street. And you can feel it when he enters a room
that security and you can't take it away from him. You can take
away his money, his home everything but a wife who's
willing to start over and most of them are and drop him
anywhere in the country go back in a year and he'd be doing just
as well as when you found him the first time. You can't keep a
good man down. No matter what you do to him, like cream on
milk. You can shake it all day, but just set it down for a while
and it'll bump right to the top again. This man or this woman
has security where it belongs. And you know where it comes
from? It comes from doing what we do for a living surpassingly
Well, it comes from being a pro in a world of amateurs.
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly. Pro in a world of amateurs.
Unknown: So that's my show. Hopefully you enjoyed it. It was
no just a quick examination of what controls our thoughts and
we got to take control back from Yes.
Adam Curry: Oh man, that was good. Yeah, hold on. Hold on. I
just want to say thank you Eclass I love that shirt it
turned everything around and we will keep our eye on on the
Crowder situation I have a little bit of internal insight
but you know never a boring moment that's for sure my
appreciate this man as always you've done it I'm so happy that
we took the extra time and then you know time was robbed and
we're back and here we are at another mo faction the can
Unknown: another one done and as I always say pay attention to
everything and the true reveal itself will talk
to you soon Mel tardy later
last
lipstick on his collar
Brian.
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