Adam Curry: Most mofax with Adam curry for June 6, 2022, episode
number 82 class is in session once again, everybody. Hey, is
it Saturday yet? Or, Oh, wait, I'm Adam curry coming to you
from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Time once again, to
spin the Wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia,
please. Hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. Mofax,
Moe Factz: how you doing? Adam,
Adam Curry: I'm doing good. Mo sorry about Saturday.
Moe Factz: Hey, man, you got flat tires. You gotta do what
you got to do. It was, it
Adam Curry: was literally one of the worst timed moments of the
day, because I got travel. Yeah, I live in the hill. I live in
the sticks now, now, all of a sudden, the car is, like
important, whereas it used to be, I just grab an Uber. Now,
Moe Factz: you feeling my pain. There is no Uber. There is no
Uber, there is no hot speed internet. So welcome. Welcome to
the sticks. Yeah, and
Adam Curry: we have, we do have cable modems, so we're a little
bit, uh, ahead of you there. But, and we do have Zachary.
Zachary's pick him up service, but I don't know what he charges
to go into Austin. Hey, man, good to talk to you, though. I
am ready for another episode. A lot of people are we are we just
been jonesing for what is coming next? Last the last show. Cue,
incidents. Holy crap. I mean, that stuff just blew everybody's
mind. That was so good,
Moe Factz: that rabbit hole. I mean, I'm trying to tell you out
there's so many twists and turns I could have went there. I still
got the Lost Tapes to give to the people for a couple
episodes, but we're gonna get that done. Just for a quick
update, been working on the business, um, just getting the
baseline income set up so we can make this long haul with the
podcast, and everything's going good, though,
Adam Curry: excellent. From my side, we've got the live podcast
stuff actually working now. And I would say, if you're up for it
in let's say maybe by the next time we record in two weeks, we
could also, we could do it live audio. I'm not quite ready for
video yet, but we could do it live audio, if you if you like
it when we record.
Moe Factz: We had to see about that. No, this is an insulated
conversation. So
Adam Curry: either way, we're getting ready for for some live
stuff, even if that's if it's Lost Tapes. That's fine for me
too. Brother, it's fine for me
Moe Factz: too. I think that'd be the next thing we do, because
I'm champing at the bit. Yes, to get on, get on the live stream,
and
Adam Curry: we're doing the same for today's topic. So why don't
I spin this puppy up? This is the wheel of topics. We spin it
every 14 days. Round, around it goes where it stops. Nobody
knows. Mo knows, of course, the topic for mofax with Adam curry
episode number 82 is you can't make
Unknown: this shit up. People, you can't make it up.
Moe Factz: Yeah, as I mentioned on the last show, as I mentioned
on the last show, we lost the uh oh yes, brethren on the YouTube
side, Mr. Kevin Samuel, so I thought it appropriate we give
him a Homegoing service. And I know a lot of people like, no,
don't do it. But as we do here, we humanize everybody. Now, hold
Adam Curry: on a sec. Hold on a sec. Why are there people
saying, oh, no, don't do it. Is there something incredibly wrong
about giving this man the honor he deserves? In
Moe Factz: the vein of Kanye 45 Savage, he's such a polarizing
figure that he triggers people with his approach or he did, and
what I hope to do is just highlight what he was. I think
he was trying to bring to people's attention in a very
boom basket way, okay, but as we've seen, he was very
disrespected when he passed. And I want just to bring that to
light, it's gonna be some political stuff. I mean, it
just, it's a rabbit hole. So
Adam Curry: for people have no idea who Kevin Samuels is, maybe
she just is, Oh, is that apparent? Maybe in, in your
setup here, just so people are
Moe Factz: listening. I think we can get into two and I can
answer any other questions on the backside of it
Unknown: for high plus News, I'm John Abba. Unfortunate news
coming out of Atlanta. Social media star relationship guru
Kevin Samuels has reportedly passed away on Thursday morning.
It was reported that Samuels was found unresponsive in his
apartment, which would spark rumors of his passing. No
official word has come from Samuels or his team addressing
rumors. But upon research, it appears that he, at times
controversial online star, has passed away. Revolt black news
has confirmed from reliable sources. One user would go on to
write in Samuel's comments following his most recent post
on Instagram. Then this man just passed away. The question would
be followed by another user who would go on to confirm the
reports. Yeah, he did this morning. My husband was one of
the officers who secured the building he stayed in. Another
user were going to share that Grady Hospital paramedics were
on the scene. Several online users immediately wanted to
verify if the news was true, including high 97 host Ebro, who
were going to ask, did the internet kill Kevin Samuels, or
is it real? Anyway, it should be said, he made broke dudes and
women in denial, think again about their range. Sammons will
mostly be known as an advocate for men, and coined the term
high value man, which, at times will put a spotlight on his
reasons why some women struggle with dating and marriage. At the
height of his career, Sammons will go on and gain a following
on YouTube, with over 1.4 million subscribers and 1.1
million on Instagram this past February, Sammons would even
team up with rapper future for his music video. Worst day
before becoming a relationship guru, Sammons would get his
start in men's grooming and fashion with reviews on men's
cologne on his now popular YouTube channel. It appears that
in 2017 Sam's would seemingly shift his focus on dating
advice.
Okay,
Moe Factz: all right, so Kevin Samuels, the the way I know of
Kevin Samuels is his uh cologne videos, I'm a huge cologne, fan
cologne, yeah,
Adam Curry: uh yes, of the smell, the the perfume, yes,
Moe Factz: oh, what, yes,
Adam Curry: okay. Mo, we've known each other so long, and
yet I discover new things every day.
Moe Factz: Yeah. So that's how I knew of him, before he pivoted
into the relationship guru and, quote, unquote, self help, I was
say or critique image consultant, that kind of thing.
So I knew of him. So to see him go from, you know, 20 30,000
followers to get to 1.4 million in itself, is amazing. And he
did it. He was like a shooting star, because he only, I think
he had on like, maybe during the pandemic, is when he blew up, so
maybe he had a couple of year run. So I just want to lay that
out there. But the his style of what he did was very polarizing.
It was very triggering. I guess you could
Adam Curry: say so, from what I've seen of him, he would talk
about, I mean, I think I've heard very similar themes from
you, like, hey, he really wanted black men to marry black women.
He would explain to black women what a what a good black man
was, how a black man could be a good black man to a black woman.
This, by the way, by itself, is polarizing language to some, of
course. But is that, is that kind of where it was, where he
was coming from,
Moe Factz: yeah? But then he also did ratings, looks
Unknown: hot or not, like stuff, kind of, yeah. The
Moe Factz: thing was, every woman he talked to caught him.
That's the, that's the, that's the Sure, of course. And he had
this like night, I don't know you. You're the pod father.
You're saying you you the podcast expert. Would you
consider his to be a podcast? Or, I don't know if you saw many
of his shows, but well, more to me, it felt like a nice night
Adam Curry: show. Well, it was, first of all, he was doing it
live on YouTube, right, right. Yeah. So it was much more of a
Venus Fly Trap, uh, Midnight Show, call in show, kind of
1970s type of vibe. Hey, baby. And let me tell you, what's
wrong with you, something like that. Here's why, here's why.
It's not working out for you, baby.
Moe Factz: So what I want to do is I don't want to talk about
too much. I want to lay it out just so we can get to every
point. But one of the points was the hate that he received in his
death. Was it appropriate, and what was the reasoning behind
it? So now we're going to go over to DL Hughley, and he's
going to talk about the response that people celebrating Kevin
Samuels death.
Unknown: So of course, we were all agreed with the news of
Kevin Samuels passing. And it's interesting because we had just
previously, the previous week. On Wednesday, we had one of the
dlqs we did, was about the last statement that I was aware that
he made. One of the things broadcast he he performed was
when he when he said that, basically, if you're 35 years
old and you're not married, you are a leftover, which is
indicative of the kind of things that he used to say. As a matter
of fact, when I first heard of him, I was with my road manager,
and he had you. He was listening to something he said, and it
struck me as cruel and unnecessary. And subsequently,
I've heard a lot of things that had come out that seemed to have
that same tone. And so, you know, when he died, I felt
really bad because I thought, you know, even in death, that
some of the comments were just so vitriolic and so acrimonious,
I thought that they didn't necessarily fit the crime. I
thought that it was just unnecessarily cruel. The man who
run his race, everything was over. He wasn't a rapist or a
murderer, a child molester or anything of that sort, but
whatever he did, it stirred up this kind of these strong
feelings and vitriol.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's interesting. First of all, I am
no DL fan at all. Somehow his tweets always show up on mine,
not my time. You probably
Moe Factz: can't support in some kind of way.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You know it's like, I have to
search for you. I have to search for you. Mo, you know, but DL
always shows up on my timeline. But in general, even when people
who I don't like John McCain passed, I would not dance on his
grave. This is, this is part just who we are as a society.
When we're anonymous on Twitter and part really, really to me,
really sad. I mean, if that's all that people have to do with
it, it's ungodly, there we go. It's ungodly to do that. What
Moe Factz: I liken it to is when people just say, Oh, I'm not
gonna say the jab or the VAX or the Vaseline when they were
passed, catch covid and die.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, hey, he died.
Moe Factz: It was that times 10.
Adam Curry: Wow.
Moe Factz: It was that because you got to look at how he died.
I didn't really put that in here, but you're saying because
we got enough clips as is, but I always want to get to how he
died. He died with a woman. Now, was he actually with her at the
time of his
Adam Curry: saddle? Holy crap. Oh my goodness. Okay.
Moe Factz: And then she happened to be not a black woman. Ooh,
Adam Curry: okay. This is yes
Moe Factz: all the ways, and it seemed to be previously or kind
of like, was it a working girl who knows, like I said, but that
all that fed into see one of his, I want to spoil it, but
yeah, piss all. Thing was about how you're gonna die and die
alone, that kind of thing, right?
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, I see the irony of it. Yes. Of course,
yes.
Moe Factz: So all this fed into it, but once again, we see
people actually who were criminals, victimizers, abusive,
they didn't get this kind of dancing on the grave? No at all.
So that, that's the part of it, trying to figure out where that
came from. Why did he elicit this kind of response in his
death? And, um, yeah, so, I mean, that's so that's what I
want to get to first. So I guess we can get to the second part of
DL
Unknown: clip. It stirred up this kind of, these strong
feelings of vitriol. So I was talking to a frat brother of
mine, and I wanted to do something, to say something. So
I was talking to him about, you know, how I felt. And he was
telling me that eulogy, the word the Latin word eulogy means to
speak well of not to add, not to detract, but to speak well of so
with that in mind, I'd gone on social media to look at whatever
I could to find something that was good to say. And I can say
this that mostly everything I saw in terms of his profile was
always picked well produced pictures and him looking wearing
sunglasses and looking cool and well dressed, but nothing
personal. I remember I had made, I posted, sent out a tweet, and
I said that R Kelly would get warmer condolences than Kevin
Samuel was getting what I thought was out of line. I
thought that, you know, the punishment didn't necessarily
fit the crime. And somebody on Twitter said, Well, you know, R
Kelly made people feel good too. He wasn't just what he did. So
in death, what you have are two things, how people, how people
made you feel and how you remember them. And I think that
Kevin Samuels was a an amalgamation, you know, his
profile, his social media presence, was designed to do one
thing, and that was to forward an image. It seems like this is
the one that he was comfortable with people having of him. And
that seems sad to me.
Adam Curry: Wow. So DL, here is talking about the. Punishment
not feeding the crime. I'm not, I'm sure we're going to find out
what his actual crime was. Oh, critiquing
Moe Factz: women, yeah, I would wages, day and age, the book of
T y'all. Well, no, it's, I
Adam Curry: would imagine that all this anger is, is, of
course, is, is also some self reflection that people may or
may not have dealt with themselves. I mean this, this is
a core issue, a core issue about being able to talk about other
people.
Moe Factz: And I'm not going to paint Kevin Samuels. I'm not
going to try to preach him into heaven or paint him as a saint.
He was he was shocked. He understood image. He understood
how to cut through,
Unknown: um,
Moe Factz: you know, just the onslaught of podcasters and live
streamers his, he was meticulous about his presentation, his
appearance. That was one of the things was he constantly wore
suits, yeah, and see, this is the weird thing is, like, I had
this, this thought it just went through my head. It was like,
for men, that he, where he came from, because he was cool, but
he wasn't their traditional kind of cool, it makes sense. Yeah,
I'm kind of like a nerdy kind of cool, right? Yeah, exactly.
Well, so he was kind of Superman by putting the suit on.
Adam Curry: Okay, sure,
Moe Factz: if that makes sense, yeah. Well, most performers, I
Adam Curry: think, put a suit on one way. Yeah, it's just the
whole thing is really interesting to me, because net,
net, he's brought something positive to the world. That's
the way I always saw. I mean, it may not be your cup of tea. But,
you know, people get so outraged. But he was, he ever de
platformed at any point? Did the cancel cannon ever really hit
him hard?
Moe Factz: No, he that was the thing. He understood how to
navigate, being an image consultant. Understand the
YouTube law bylaws, which you could and couldn't say his
approach, he was able to navigate that those rules and
make it work in his favor. And I think that's what his success
really what up that said everybody. But speaking of
image, I got him himself, and I want to people, hear people.
This is what I found most important about Kevin Sanders,
and this is why I made this show. What I think he brought to
the table was to make black men, specifically, men in general,
and men and women that were looking to find a significant
other to one be cognizant of their image. And this is
specifically the black men, because the first time I ever
played a clip of his was about Will Smith, right, and in the
last show, and it was spot on about how our images to be
violent. And you know, two people that highly trained their
craft couldn't get along. You know, it this was expected. It
was to one react violent and the other react to his violence with
violence. And that was his expectation. This kind of thing
he brought to the table. And if for nothing else, for us to say,
hey, we need to take a look at our image and how we're being
portrayed, to how we're being used. This is the, this is the
rub that they and when I say they capital, they, they can't
use us and portray us in a certain way to gain either
economic or political gain. This is what pisses them off.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, so this, okay, so I see, would this be
they? I'll just use the term. Would he be to some the modern
day equivalent of uppity?
Moe Factz: Oh, he's definitely a Boulet brother. No, I'm serious,
like he was a kappa. He's capitalized, definitely, but I
think he represented a that patriarchal side of the bootleg,
yeah, saying, Oh, we went, we've been too feminine, feminized.
We've been to this. We've been to, you know, to the extreme.
But the crazy thing about he's aware, it's he's such a
fascinating character to observe, because he could be
seen as the consummate metrosexual, to the point, I
just got to be honest, when I used to watch his cologne video,
I'm like, this dude, you were saying because he used to have,
like a Red Bull can with a long straw. And it was like, you
know, kind of like metrosex, very metrosexual. So that was
the thing that was the hit against him, that, Oh, he's gay.
It's like, whoa, wait, whoa, whoa. How can you attack an LGBT
community member, right?
Adam Curry: Well, he's on the down low, so that's no good,
see,
Moe Factz: that's the so this is where I'm laying all this out.
So I say all that to say I want. To get into these next three
clips of him talking about why this image matters so much,
Unknown: how the media changes, the way we look at ourselves and
other people around us, how the media changes thing. Why are we
here today? Image is power, and today, I want to bring it home
as one of the few actual image consultants on YouTube, as a
black man and the destruction of the black male image, there you
go. Now you've seen what's happened over this weekend with
Brother Kwame Brown, and he talked about how you had men
that share his reflection, openly destroying him, and any
get ridiculing talking about him, that man wasn't bothering
nobody, and for 20 years he laid out his case. I'm not going to
relitigate it, because he has done a masterful job, but I want
you to think about something, one of the first things that
happened, just like in this whole Birth of a Nation thing,
is they mischaracterize you in the media, and they use little
bits of truth mixed in with gross exaggerations. And in
order to make it stick, you gotta go along with it. What's
one of the way? Now you can sit back and say, Look at what them
white people did. We don't need white people in this
conversation right now, because we do a good job of this
ourselves. You got a black man that comes to you every day,
Monday through Friday, in a suit, and look at what they've
tried to do to me.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that is kind of weird. Can
Moe Factz: it's a fascinating case to watch, because the whole
thing was, pull up your pants, put on a suit, right dress
appropriately, and he puts
Adam Curry: on a suit, and then he's some kind of sell out, and
then No, good, no,
Moe Factz: it wasn't that. It was a he was a woman hater or a
homosexual, or he hated his mother, or
Adam Curry: isn't that what we always used to say about the
good looking guys, eyes, probably gay. He probably beats
his wife. He's too good looking to be true.
Moe Factz: That's that was the thing. But what he did, like I
said, was he understood image, being an image consultant, and
one, he elevated the image of men, specifically black men,
while at the same time, how can i What's the word I want to use?
He would make women be logical about their situation. And that
was the problem. You can't introduce logic to Princess
programming. It's like, no, no, no, that that clashes. And it's
like, it would be a call. It would be a shock to them to hear
the truth, because we see in today's society, nobody really
tells the truth, the truth at all, to victims, quote, unquote,
victims, women, the gays, the blacks, the Latina, Latinx,
whoever, whatever the victim group is, you can't give them
any truth, because if it's said you know the wrong way, then
it's hateful, even though it's true. Well, oh,
Adam Curry: well, hold on, if you say it the wrong way, then
you might break the spell. Is what I'm thinking. That's the
biggest problem, if you if you tell black men and black women
that, hey, wait a minute, you actually, here's what you do to
get your shit together and to be successful. And it's an image,
is a big part of it. That's kind of breaking the spell that maybe
politics doesn't want to be broken. And
Moe Factz: that's the key point, that that's the key he was the
ideal respect of respectability politics, like, there, there you
go that suit, or you're trying to adhere to the patriarchy, you
know? So we're gonna get a little deeper. But let's go
ahead and get into the second clip of uh. Image does matter?
Oh,
Unknown: uh oh. But then am I alone? No, this is the history.
This is one thing you have learned. Well, you have learned
how to destroy a black man's image for your own negative
reasons. One, jealousy. Two, scared. Three, envy. Four, you
wish you had the position, whatever the reason is, we're
the only group of folks to do it to this level for what we don't
need. DW Griffith, when you got people that look like you, that
will do, first thing they do is try to either tell you you're
you're either crazy, violent, aggressive, Gus, uh oh, he was
crazy, sex crazed and crazy, gonna snatch that woman. Well,
that's how they did it for the longest, you know, kind. Ops and
America's most worn and this and that pimps and hoes and so
forth. But then, then they isolate that person, telling
them, You better beware the Boogeyman. But then what happens
on the other side? Then, if you actually have the nerve to carry
yourself in a different way, you carry yourself in a way that's
not, you know, street or country or whatever, however you want to
frame it, then you got to be gay black men and y'all are y'all
tired of either being either a thug or gay.
Moe Factz: I hits right at Hollywood, oh yeah. Hits right
at politics. Get your booty to the pole. Yeah. I mean, it's all
we can just communicate to them on the base level. And what
happened, like I said, at some point along the way, uh, 45
Savage has something to do with it, but just the whole, no,
we're not going to take it. You're not going to shape our
image. You're not we're not going to be the bottom, the
sacrificial bottom anymore. Because here's the rub about it.
It's not even for let me say this first, I want to have this
conversation where you let me know if this happens on the
other side. Because, for two things, one reason, I have to
ask one I haven't dated to make sure I get my math right. Over
20 years. Let me just leave it like that. You're sick, okay?
No. Bad Man.
Adam Curry: Be very careful. Very careful. Demo, yes,
Moe Factz: I'm out the game. So I have an experience. Yes,
modern dating. My you can help me with that. Okay, my
Adam Curry: last dating experience was eight years ago,
before I met Tina. See, so you, you, you, I'm fresh, baby, I'm
fresh. Yeah, I got the goods. Is
Moe Factz: this, I assume so. But is this going on all across
the racial divide? Is this same conversation happening?
Adam Curry: So just define that in a sentence. When you say
this, this conversation, when
Moe Factz: you hear, okay, the gender war. How is it developing
on that side of the racial divide. Okay, well, because,
because I don't want to make this solely about, you know,
because I'm doing a the idea is, and we're going to get this on
another show, is like, okay, it's weird, because they're
like, oh, white men know how to treat their women, right? But
it's like you're fighting against the patriarchy. It's
Adam Curry: you here, here's something I hear, here's
something I hear a lot of, because I have young, younger
Wife, Daughters and stepdaughters, millennial age, I
would say that in general, there is amongst the younger a fear of
toxic masculinity, and now we're talking white and white, and to
such a degree that I believe that they actually avoid
masculine Type men. I'm actually seeing this across the board.
Now I don't know if there's anything explicitly said about
this, but no, there is actually it has been like, yeah, talks,
the toxic masculinity thing has been hammered into the white the
white woman's mind as something very bad and to be avoided. And
I think that for some of the younger women, it actually has
had some kind of effect. That's what I can really say. And funny
enough, if anything kind of a effeminate, gay ish guy is
almost desired,
Moe Factz: right right now, I think. But on the other side, on
our side, is more of you have to step back and be the second,
second relationship.
Adam Curry: Um, mostly not. This isn't that kind of the same
thing.
Moe Factz: But it's not about masculinity. It's about
agreeance. You do whatever we tell you to do that kind of
thing, and if you don't, you know saying or the only way you
can get around that is if you're so desirable,
Adam Curry: that's called marriage. I don't know what
you're talking about. That happens the minute the ring goes
on. Now you do what I tell you.
Moe Factz: Now you see the reason for the gender war,
because let me just lay it out here. What's going on here in
the gender war, as I see it with inflation, with covid, when we
were all shut in, it made people look at their lives and say,
Okay, I need to make a deal. Gotta get. Rent rents up 50%
Yeah, gas is up 120% food is up. You're saying, whatever
percentage it is, I can't live single anymore. It's not it's
not feasible to live single anymore. So now people are
coming to the deal table and saying, Okay, let's make a deal.
And what's happening is these pundits, relationship pundits, I
include Kevin Sanders in that is telling people get the best deal
possible, sure. Okay, but the problem with that is, when men
want to get the best deal possible, because honestly, if
you're not having kids, they're no need to get married, right?
This is my advice to my children, my son. If you're not
having children, there's no need to get married. There's nothing
beneficial in it. You see what? You see what I'm saying, like
this is when you get to the brass tacks of it, because you
just, you just said yourself, that's marriage. Yeah, I know
you said it in jest, but that's kind of the thing with okay, I
can get put out at any time, I can lose the kids. Oh,
Adam Curry: okay, yeah, okay, right. Oh that, yeah. So there's
a, there's a much longer history of this, which, you know, I
think goes back to Episode One, no man about the house, all the
way through to Episode 81 you know, with baby mama and baby
baby daddy culture, all that, I mean that that's that's truly a
culture, and it's not just black, it's white as it's poor,
a lot of it's poor, but in popular culture, holy crap, it's
rampant.
Moe Factz: Yes, rampant. And they want to keep popular
culture, wants to keep the gender war going because it
leads to depopulation, then we know all roads lead to
depopulation. No, sir,
Adam Curry: yeah, no, you're Hey, I think it's very obvious.
We know where the Planned Parenthood outfits are. We know
what neighborhoods they're in. We know who got special
attention for certain medical procedures in the past two
years. Oh yeah, that's always it's always the goal of the
elites. So let's
Moe Factz: go ahead and get to the final clip of image matters
so much. But
Unknown: what y'all need to understand is we're reaching a
critical mass in this time to where this is not working
anymore. This is not working anymore because unlike when DW
grifter came out, when Hollywood and the media and the movie the
movie industry, it was much more controlled. It's decentralized.
All you need is a smartphone and internet connection, and now the
rabbit has the gun, and people have an answer for what they
say. And if you won't hold that, if you won't be that, if you
won't act like the thing they're trying to say you are, it won't
fit. Why is that so important? Because we have a scarcity
mentality, because black male media has yet to exist for black
men, by black men. Well, here's a chance understand that image
is power, and everybody else seems to understand its power.
When a black man going to decide to start going in their pockets
and funding it for ourselves? Hell yeah, because I don't, I
don't think you guys get it. Why would anybody else want to build
it for you, if they benefit off of you being where you are?
Adam Curry: Oh, well, now there's the court problem right
there. He points it right out. No wonder he was hated. People
were activated against him because he was a black man
saying what he felt. Big problem.
Moe Factz: You know, you can't do it and say it to where you're
not. Can't be framed as angry or belligerent because, and he wore
a suit. Even worse, let me be honest, he had multiple gears.
He could take it there, if you brought it there to him, he
could go to that gear, but then he also could go to this gear
that you hear him in. He can be very funny a lot of time. I
mean, he had very great committed to comedic timing. So
yeah, so that was, that was the thing. But once again, we got to
talk about, uh, where we at? Well, can
Adam Curry: I ask you a question first? Yeah, go ahead, um,
because we didn't actually discuss it. I'm not sure I know
what did how did he die? What? What was the cause of his
passing? Something
Moe Factz: with his heart, and that's the other thing. Like, he
never said if he was vaccinated or not. But that never, that
topic never came up. It was drugs. It was Red Bulls, because
he was known to drink Red Bulls. No,
Adam Curry: no, no. Of course, of course. That could never be
an option. That's completely impossible. Uh, also murder
comes to mind. I'm just gonna be honest,
Moe Factz: I didn't go that angle with this show, because
Adam Curry: where I went with Michael Jackson, I go there very
often when I see people who are not liked by governments,
there's
Moe Factz: not enough evidence for me to go down there. But
there is a lot of misalignment of stories of how he knew this
one. Man, how long he knew this woman, but this is all alleged,
I don't know, but I'm just telling you, it's
hypothetically. Could I see a person being removed such a his
stature? 1.4 million followers is is a big deal, especially in
quote, unquote, black YouTube, like, yeah. Black Twitter, like,
I mean, that's what I was saying before in the previous show.
Black YouTube is a more diverse representation of black media
than Black Twitter is, because you get, always, from the man
experience to you're saying third wave feminists. So, I
mean, you get, you get a full array of voices. Well, with
Twitter, do the algorithm there? They sense around a lot of
information. So, and
Adam Curry: by the way, though, you know 1.2 or 1.5 million
followers, that could have been 10 million, you don't really
know what YouTube is putting on those numbers, to me, are always
suspicious,
Moe Factz: and when you get to that number of followers, you're
jumping the racial line, yes, or racial divide, you're reaching a
lot of different you're saying people across the world, yeah.
So that's the other thing that I could be have been suppressed.
Who knows. I'm keeping my own angle of it, of course, but I
thought you're saying just this, no, have this show today just to
represent where you came from. I think that would be a good, good
angle. Okay, so this is the this is Naomi Wolf.
Adam Curry: We love Dr Naomi Wolf, okay,
Moe Factz: she wrote a book. What was it? The beauty myth,
yes, and this is 1990s
Adam Curry: she's changed a little bit since then. I might
point out she said she's had a some, some form of an awakening
in the past two years,
Moe Factz: true, but I want to lay out why. When he was coming
up against this beauty thing, he was kicking a real hornet's nest
with the feminist, because she is one of the first people to
kind of use the term third wave feminism. So that just give you
perspective about her. But let's get into these set of clips.
Let's start with number
Unknown: eight, but I do want to focus today on a thought
provoking new book and its author that Time Magazine and
its section on ideas recently highlighted as the bad side of
looking good a young American author causes a storm by arguing
that women have become victims of A punishing cult of beauty.
Indeed, the subtitle of Naomi Wolf's new William Morrow book,
The Beauty myth says it all how images of beauty are used
against women. Now perhaps ms Wolff would have been better
advised to have subtitled her book how images of beauty have
long been used against women for though, her thesis is that we
are in the midst of a violent backlash against feminism that
uses images of female beauty as a political weapon against
women's advancement, the beauty myth, she adds, importantly, it
is the modern version of a social reflex that has been in
force since the industrial revolution. So much then for the
criticism that the beauty myth is old hat. And I would ask Ms
Wolff if she doesn't really strive to make that point
herself, that it is old hat.
Well, exactly we do. We've lived under a patriarchal system for
as long as there's been recorded history, and ever since there
have been records, women have been controlled in various ways.
And you could say that the cult of beauty is ancient. Oh,
Adam Curry: this is so great to hear now, in context of how she
speaks today, this is fantastic. This is yeah, oh yeah, a regular
Jane farmda, yeah.
Moe Factz: And that's the thing about it. She's a quote, unquote
beautiful woman. Oh, I'm saying, and that's the rub is that, you
see, all these beautiful women speak in a certain way about
beauty and so flippantly about Oh yeah. You know, it's just
another thing. Don't judge me by it. But it's kind of given the
reason why they're not the only reason, but added to the reason
why they're even sought after to be experts or to speak on
certain topics. Sure,
Adam Curry: sure. That's always the that's the the conundrum of
it.
Moe Factz: It's called pretty privilege. I mean, that that's
what has been like referred to on the gender war fronts, is
that beautiful women have certain privileges. And I think
what they want to do, or what they were attempting to do when
she wrote this book, was to say women should define what beauty
is. And men should adhere to that new way of thinking.
Unknown: Oh, how horrible,
Moe Factz: right? I mean, like, that's,
Adam Curry: I don't like that at all.
Moe Factz: See, that's, that's the, that's, the thing is that
beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Yes, right? No, that's
no. This is the reconditioning. This is the you know, and we see
it now. Fast Forward where you see, like I said, everybody has
something beautiful about them, but you see certain commercials
has a diversity of size, a diversity of color, spectrum, to
the point where they even have people with ALA, not alopecia.
What's the other one? Vertigo, vertigo. This is a, this is a
thing now, like, you know, let's we got to get a vertiligo girl,
you know, with, uh oh, yeah, no, of course, it's not. They're not
beautiful. Of course they're beautiful. But the fact is that
you're only getting them because they have a skin condition. And
this goes back to the alopecia thing with data pickers, a lot
of
Adam Curry: ties this actually, you know that specifically that
that in high fashion, that goes back in my life, decades ago, it
was, oh my God. Look how beautiful she is, the redhead,
the redhead with the freckles, you know, and what would
traditionally was known as, Oh, my God, a ginger, You're
despicable to look at, was celebrated. And, of course, the
the redhead, freckled girls they found were beautiful. But this
is, this has been quite a thing in fashion. Fashion has always
done this. Go back to the period of Rubens, where, today, mean
they wouldn't even really count in the Cardi B camp, you know,
right?
Moe Factz: And the other thing is, men don't decide this. When
you talk about beauty and fashion and fashion models and
that kind of thing. Men don't decide that, um, we have our own
idea what is beautiful is, and it varies from man to man. Yeah,
of course, like I said, some guys like redheads, some guys
like women with short hair, some guys like tall women, short
women. And we it all. It's beauty at about odd to beholder.
But what, what's happening is you have this cult of beauty
that she's talking about, the one that said the Bernays group
of things, right, right? But as you can control women through,
you know, having them being fixated on their appearance,
compared to the other side that, oh, we can play to men's sexual
desires. And that's the that's the two groups you're saying
that's being played off each other, and men, ordinary men and
women, are lost in this gender war in the middle,
Adam Curry: and I would argue that Jordan, Jordan Peterson,
is, in a way, on the other side of that debate, because he will
come in. Yeah, right.
Moe Factz: I was gonna say that would be a good cop to who Kevin
Samuels was. Okay, no, that makes sense that that would be a
great I'm glad you brought him up, because he has slipped my
mind as far as he's not your traditional person that you
would think would speak on relationships, but because of
how he presents the information, it makes him very potent.
That's, that's, I think that that would be a great comp for
those two. Yeah, and
Adam Curry: Peterson's thing is, look, you know, you you put you
wear high heels. Why do you wear high heels? That's to make you
look sexually more attractive by making your calves pop out more.
Why do you wear makeup? Why do you wear Rouge? Because that's,
you know, lipstick. It simulates the the blood rushing into your
lips after orgasm. And this is, this is all really well known,
documented, scientific stuff the fashion industry does for women
and for men, except he points it out and and, and get shit for
it,
Moe Factz: right? Because you're not supposed to say it's kind of
like talk about money, right? It's got beauty has become like
money, which Rue to talk about it attractive, and even
attractive people will play it down, like, Oh no, no, I'm just
a regular, ordinary girl. That kind of thing is like, No.
Adam Curry: Or my favorite, I'm glad you're blind. That's my
favorite.
Moe Factz: I haven't heard that. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: get that a lot. I am kind of blind, but I can see
close up really well. But no, I mean, this is the entire
culture. Lizzo is my favorite example. You know, Lizzo is
overweight. There's no two ways about it, perhaps medically
endangering herself, but you can't say that. No, you have to
say, I love how she just puts it all out. There you go, yeah,
yeah, and it's not, I mean, sure it's fine, but it's, you know,
it's like, if, if someone's unhealthy, you should be able to
point that part out. And
Moe Factz: what's the lady who kind of had a set of lizard
clips in this show as well, but had to take them out. But, uh,
what's the lady's name from The Biggest Loser y'all real?
Unknown: I don't know. She's, she's
Moe Factz: a. She's a personal trainer. It'll come to me. But
anyway, she's one of those drill sergeant type personal trainers,
like, get up, dude. You're saying these dudes do that, that
kind of thing, and kind of give you the hard truth, you know,
saying on the show Jillian Michaels, that's it. Jillian
Michaels, she got into a flare up with Lizzo because she
wouldn't say, oh, we should celebrate Lizzo being so you're
saying, large. So this go to show this is bigger than gender.
This is like anything that comes out, you know, that doesn't
stick to the, what you call, what I call the corporate credit
score. Yes, yes. This has a big play into it, that this is part
of that diversity and inclusion thing. And
Adam Curry: this goes back. This goes back, I would say, to about
2010 I witnessed this. We followed this. It started with
bullying and and it was story after story. I they're getting
bullied in school, bully for this, bully for that. Then we
got bullying rules, then we got bullying laws, then we got hate
speech then we got hate speech laws, and then we got
participation trophies, and no one lost. I mean this, this
happened, really. Now, there was set up for it, but it went very
quickly, 1015, years max, for the acceleration that it went
through. It was, it was fascinating to watch, and kind
of scary how fast that went. All based in the education system.
That's where it all came from initially. Yeah,
Moe Factz: the RE education system, the education system,
yes. So I think we stopped it eight, yeah. I think we going to
nine now, yep. But
Unknown: you know, it's interesting you say if they
can't eat properly, and before you use the word and then, I
think, retracted it victim. Now why say that women are victims,
and why say that they can't eat properly? Who is doing this? To
whom? Who is doing
this to whom? Western women since the beginning of the
Industrial Revolution have been uniquely controlled by ideals.
In the 19th century, the perfect beauty was an ideal of sickness.
And I argue that repeatedly, whenever there's a class of
Western, middle class women who are literate and idle, and
there's the ferment of feminism, the air as there was in the 19th
century, some ideal is going to be needed to control them and
make sure that that does not get out of hand. And sure enough,
this cult of invalidism the 19th century grew and flourished.
Publicists all around told women that middle class women that
they should be sick. A booming industry of sexual surgeons and
sexual doctors attending to female complaints grew up
telling women that normal, healthy female processes were in
fact diseased, like menstruation and sexual desire were
manifestations of disease, and middle class women got sick
again in the 50s, when the economy needed women to leave
their war work, when the men were returning from the front,
this society desperately needed an ideology that would drive
women back into the home and convince them that the ideal
woman was the full time happy homemaker, absolutely obsessed
with the shining perfect floor.
Adam Curry: It's interesting hearing her say all this, which
I kind of agree with the interviewer. It all sounds kind
of classic. I've heard it before, but she's really
complaining about the media. She says the patriarchy. But it's
the media, the advertising, that's now, where that's run by
the patriarch. You're not a secondary but also, holy crap,
she should listen to this herself. You know, she's on war
room with Steve Bannon these days. I mean, she's, she's
really, she's really come around.
Moe Factz: That's it's fascinating that I would like to
hear what she has to say about this now, yeah, because I don't
necessarily disagree with her that we've talked about how
airwort Bernays sures absolutely turns smoking into a cool habit
by how he, uh, positioned cigarettes as freedom, torches
of freedom. And she said something in there that I think
it kind of slipped past. She said, women are controlled,
modern women. I mean, she's talking about middle, middle
class, uh, she said a tinge of, I think, of feminism and
fermenting in the air or something like that. They're
controlled by ideals. There you go. So one ideal has just
replaced the other. It mean you're you're still women,
you're still being mind controlled. Yes, it's just now.
Adam Curry: Now. Hate, men. Hate the white man mostly, but might
as well hate some black let's hate all men.
Moe Factz: I hate pretty women.
Adam Curry: Oh yes, please.
Moe Factz: That's that's the other thing too. I mean, that's
when they talk about the rabbit has the gun. Now, it's like,
okay, the women that weren't traditionally beautiful are in
positions of power now, dude. To affirmative action and the third
wave feminism, second wave feminism, to the point where
they can come in and write the rules now, so
Unknown: you feel yourself still to have been a victim of
the beauty, a survivor of the beauty myth. Yes,
you know, let me go back to this business of victimization today.
There is the mommy trap. There is the beauty trap. There is
There was The Feminine Mystique. Which was The Feminine Mystique
trap? You put it on political basis, you put it on an economic
basis. Why haven't you been willing to accept to limit
yourself your critique to the economics of salesmanship or
saleswomanship? Because
that's not adequate. You have a choice when you're being
bombarded with advertising. Ultimately, you have a choice
whether to buy or not buy that product. If your livelihood
doesn't depend on it. What's happened over and above, the way
these four industries are manipulating mass media is that
increasingly the beauty myth is being used to make women not
only feel but believe, to make it be true that their careers,
their income, their livelihood, depends upon their concern. To
these stereotypes,
Adam Curry: I just got to stop it right there. Have you have
you looked at Instagram or tick tock lately? Have we all looked
at what women are doing? Makeup wise, to have influence, to be
popular, to be pretty? I mean, the makeup is, is 10 times
heavier than the 1950s it's
Moe Factz: just, and that's why I said the rabbit. That's why I
was talking about, yes, we it's not see. And this is the thing
about freedom. People think when a group wins freedom or
independence, they just gonna hand it over to you. They're
like, Nah, we're gonna hold on to this, and we're going to use
it in our in our way. We're going to manipulate for the
good.
Adam Curry: Of course, always, always, let me. Let me finish
out the clip with her. I just forget it to interrupt because
otherwise I forget where
Unknown: and above the way these four industries are manipulating
mass media is that increasingly, the beauty myth is being used to
make women not only feel but believe, to make it be true that
their careers, their income, their livelihood, depends upon
their conforming to these stereotypes, that their
sexuality depends upon conforming to these stereotypes,
that their sense of self worth as human beings depends upon it,
that their visibility on the planet depends upon it. Now
those are very difficult things to negotiate with, impossible, I
would say. And I think it's, it's therefore inadequate to
stop short also it's, it's certainly been done before, and
it's not an adequate explanation to me to blame either men's
sexual desire, which I think is not, as I said, the source of
this pressure. Or, you know, the capitalist economy. I mean,
certainly the capitalist economy stimulates and exacerbates
Adam Curry: this. Oh, okay, let me make a shortcut here. Kevin
Samuels was actually a very important counterweight to what
women are doing to themselves. Because you now, this is from
the 1990s you add to this video filters you add to this, you
know, the as I was saying, influencers, you add to this,
algorithms. And women are literally, I don't know if the
rabbit has the gun. Women are caught in, they're caught in a
in a cycle where you just have to keep putting out, you know,
in order to either stay popular in school or to be relevant in
middle school, or to maybe, you know, try and have a career as
an influencer, which seems to be, you know, top of the list
for most you have to adhere to all These crazy tight body rules
and attitudes and things. It's, to me, it's, it's like the worst
trap of all that they're going through right now.
Moe Factz: So they want it though, well,
Adam Curry: do they, or are they mind controlled into this? This,
there's no one. There's no one. There's no one saying stop,
except the guy who just died.
Moe Factz: Because what he says is, if you think you want, the
guy that you think you want, this is not exactly
Adam Curry: this is what you got to do to get him. And what
Moe Factz: they're hearing is no, no. Disney's told me all my
life, if I do all the right things. And the right things now
is going to school, getting a degree, you're saying, becoming
financially No, marrying me would be financially
advantageous for, you know, that kind of thing. But what Kevin,
it doesn't to those. Guys, it doesn't matter how you look,
man, how much money you make, it's about how you look. So why
do you want that kind of guy? Because top this, this is his
terminology, high value man was top 10% of men, and every one of
the women calling him felt like they had a right to one of those
top 10% men. And I look at Tyler Perry, because he had a lot to
do with this as well that, you know, saying, solidifying this,
this thought process. So when they would get a wake up call
for him, he's like, Do you Do you really think top 10% guy is
going to date? Whatever, saying your size, your height, is
outside the beauty, uh, scale, that's, that's what? And he
would tell him that. So what he was saying, in in effect, was,
go get you a regular guy. And that was, like, that was, that
was cuss words, a regular guy. Are you crazy?
Adam Curry: Now, under regular we understand, what
Moe Factz: do you mean? Well, what's
Adam Curry: a regular guy?
Moe Factz: Maybe a guy to make $75,000 a year as an
electrician.
Adam Curry: Ah, good solid guy. A good solid guy.
Moe Factz: Oh no, you know he's a regular guy. He's regular.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I got it all wrong. Hey, at least he's
not a podcaster.
Moe Factz: Well, it depends on See, how much does he make? Joe
Rogan,
Unknown: podcaster? Yeah, Adam
Moe Factz: and Mo podcast never heard of that. Yeah, so no,
that, that's the thing. So, yeah, he was basically like,
breaking their spell. And like, it would just like throwing
water on a on a vampire, you know, holy water on a vampire.
It was just like, it was that jarring, not that they were
demonically, uh, oppressed. Now we can get to the final uh piece
with uh Naomi Wolf.
Unknown: I agree with so much of it, but there is one part that
concerns me greatly, and that is the and you as a scholar, will
recognize the phrase the devil theory of history. You're
looking for a devil, and you don't find it inside ourselves.
You find it in a manipulation, in a creation, and a
manipulation of that creation by forces outside. And you're not
even satisfied with an economic approach. You want to make it
something larger. There are forces at work in our society
that purposefully manipulate women, to keep them in the home,
yes, or to keep them feeling imprisoned in their bodies. Yes,
I have no apology for that. The way I put in the book is, this
is not a conspiracy theory. It doesn't have to be. I've become
convinced, and I'm very influenced by the work of
Barbara Ehrenreich, who I think proved this absolutely without a
doubt, in her book, for her own good, 150 years of the experts
advice to women that if you look at the history of how middle
class women do, are made to do what needs to be, what what the
economy and what society need them to do at any given moment,
you're looking at manipulation, which is so necessary and so
almost reflexive that it doesn't even have to be conscious.
Moe Factz: She thinks this is something of a higher power or
more nefarious, not just economics or even politics
behind it. I mean, that's just some some eyes what she was
saying, and
Adam Curry: I don't disagree. I've always felt that, and
Moe Factz: that's why I say the rabbit has the gun now, because
the women, the feminists, that were fighting to get control of
these mechanisms, are using them for their own agenda. Now,
right? That was what me, too, was about. That was what the you
know, I just everything you know, are you saying?
Adam Curry: Are you saying there's a cabal of women out to
take power of the world? Mo,
Moe Factz: I'm saying that they're an alliance with other
groups to beauty is genetics. At the end of the day, I know that.
Mean, that's like duo. What this? We know that? Well,
genetic,
Adam Curry: genetics, genetics on all side, you know, it's what
you're attracted to, is also your genetics. And that may not
be what you know, the most beautiful person by traditional
standards.
Moe Factz: But the point I'm trying to make is only the
pretty people are going to make it when they talk to start
talking about that 10% getting get rid of 90% beautiful people,
is that's going to be one of the qualifiers.
Adam Curry: That's kind of a sad thought. But yes, I, yeah, I,
and that is ultimately how Hitler. Looked at it, you know,
the pure race, the perfect features. So, yeah, that I can
imagine forces like that.
Moe Factz: It's a component of eugenics. But there's also a
thing called nugenix that's not about race. It's about what you
bring to the table, either heightened intelligence,
heightened beauty, athletic skills. You know, these? These
are people we celebrate at the end of the day. This is our
royalty in the world. You're saying either you have some kind
of athletic skill, and you're saying superior intelligence.
Well, yes,
Adam Curry: this is why people are so obsessed with the two
high end junkies to watch the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial is
the same, but they were high end junkies, beautiful people or
not,
Moe Factz: but that that's their gift that they bring forward,
and that's the kind of people that they want to move forward.
And what they want to do is discourage this thing about
ordinary, regular this, words like this, is these are
discouragers from you procreating, right?
Adam Curry: Oh, man, that's pretty evil. It
Moe Factz: is so. So now we got to go back to throwback show 64
and this is Moya Bailey. This is the woman that coined the term
misogynoir, and that's a specific type of misogyny of
black men that black men have towards black women. So I want
to get into her talk about digital alchemy, because it's
kind of what Naomi Wolf was talking about as well.
Unknown: I talk about something I call digital alchemy, which is
to me, that process of bipoc folks, specifically black women,
using the tools, the platforms that have been provided, and
then using them in a way that they were never intended so
really disrupting the expectations of a platform like
Twitter and a platform like Facebook to do something else,
but I don't know that that is always a generative practice.
Sometimes I feel like it is coming from a place of reaction.
So it is in response to some violence that has occurred, and
it is speaking to the moment and using that tool, but generative
digital alchemy is something I would set apart and say that
there's potential for something else, and it's less about I do
think that Audre Lorde is exactly right, and in that
context, she was thinking specifically about what's
happening in the academy. You know, do we imagine that getting
imbricated into this system and this institution that we know is
so harmful that we can actually disrupt it, dismantle it, undo
the institution, and make it into something else. And I don't
think that that is true. I think she's absolutely right that the
master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. I
do think that what digital alchemy perhaps offers is an
opportunity to build a new house with new tools, and that we need
to do that work of building new tools, and some of that work
happens through, you know, trying the tools that are
available to us and realizing that they don't work in the ways
that we want them to.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Didn't she create the term misogynoir? Yes?
Yeah, yeah. I remember now. So,
Moe Factz: um, this goes to show that Kevin Samuels was a digital
Alchemist for the other side. When she said taking their
tools, as you heard, all you need is saying the internet
connection the smartphone. A lot like we talked a joke about, we
have two guys with two laptops, pretty much internet, internet
connection,
Adam Curry: well, more like two tin cans and some string. But,
yeah, we got an internet connection,
Moe Factz: right? Quote, unquote connection. You know, it goes in
and out as it wants to, but this had a real world effect. So now
what I want to go into this is Karen Hunter, and we've heard
them use repurposed Malcolm X talking points, or, you know,
phrases that one was the black women and most the least
protected woman on the face of the earth, which is true in a
sense, but the way they used it with the whole Magna stallion
case, and you see that whole thing blew up? I don't know if
you have seen it or not. She may have not even been shot. Oh,
they have stepped on glass.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, do you mean in her foot?
Moe Factz: Yes,
Adam Curry: this is now just coming out, that that was a bull
crap story. Yes,
Unknown: politically, yeah, we
Adam Curry: kind of knew that. We talked about it back then,
didn't we? We talked about on the show?
Moe Factz: Yeah, we did. But you saw how they kind of drag it out
for the election, that you bring her out to use her as a
victimized black woman, black man. You know, this
Adam Curry: is crazy. We're learning so many things after
the fact. One of these days, we're going to find out that
election was rigged. I'm telling you, it's going to come
Moe Factz: out one of these days. But it's funny, you bring
up the election because they're looking forward to a 2022, 2020,
Adam Curry: oh yeah, most
Moe Factz: definitely Karen Hunter's going to talk about the
ballot and the bullet, but listen to how she who she's not
going to listen to politically anymore.
Unknown: And Luke Campbell, y'all know him as Uncle Luke
Luther Campbell. He of the Florida booty scene. He of the,
you know, debaucherous music, and you know, doodle Brown and
all of that
Adam Curry: doodoo Brown.
Moe Factz: Listen, yeah, that's one of his songs, but listen to
how she talks about him. Debaucherous rapper all this.
This is the same guy that sat down with Kamala Harris to
certify her blackness. He put that clip in here by this one to
make
Adam Curry: he did it. He did his job, and he still gets
slammed. Is that what you're saying? Well, he's stepping
Moe Factz: out of line now, and maybe for a reason. But let's
get back to the
Unknown: clip. You know, doodle Brown and all of that raised the
question this weekend that got a lot of attention. Got a lot of
attention, and I thought it was interesting that he asked a
question. Just give me five reasons why black people should
vote? And then a more valid question. Give me five things
that the Democrats have done for black
people. Specifically, I'm
not going to get my political direction from Uncle Luke,
anybody that you could put into a glass of Hennessy. I'm not
going to get my political direction from anybody who calls
themselves at 50 Diddy, I'm not going to get my political leave.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, what's the 50 Diddy?
Moe Factz: I think she said at 50. Oh, at 50, okay, ageism. How
you like that? Yeah,
Adam Curry: we're talking about the guy from two life crew,
right? Well,
Moe Factz: now she's going down a whole list of them now, she
said started with Luke, right?
Adam Curry: But when she talks about Uncle Luke, that's Luke
Skywalker. That's two life, okay, just want to make sure, I
mean, I know Uncle Luke, when he was just Luke. From back in the
day, he was just Luke, he was just a Luke,
Unknown: uh, direction from anybody who calls themselves a
50 Diddy, I'm not going to get my political leanings from
anyone who looks like Basquiat, who's trying to evoke Basquiat
become the next Basquiat, but has no drawing artistic
abilities whatsoever, but it's a pretty decent rapper. I'm not
getting my information or my political direction from my
basketball player. I'm not going to get it from anybody you know,
not even a politician. Let me just say there's not, not even a
Barack Obama can give me any political direction right now.
I'm actually going to take my direction from Malcolm X, who
was very strategic in this ballot, or bullet,
the ballot or the bullet,
Moe Factz: yes. So what she was saying is, she's not gonna take
her, uh, political advice for no black men. No, that's what she's
saying. That's why she would. She was talking about Jay Z
Diddy, uh, LeBron, James Barack Obama. She's not taking any
you're starting to see that divide. Yeah, you see it
happening. And we've talked, been talking about this, what,
two or three years now, yes, it's the it's official pull away
time. And the reason why I'm bringing this up is we're gonna
get back to Kevin Samuels and what he represented. But I'm
showing you
Adam Curry: this feels like it has a bad ending. This doesn't
feel good. What you're telling me now it
Moe Factz: is precarious. Let's just go ahead and get to the
second part.
Unknown: There is a movement afoot in our country where there
where repub the Trumpian approach to thinking, has been
used and weaponized for a certain segment of the black
community, and that Trumpian way of thinking is, first and
foremost, a grievance mindset, right? Not that black people
don't have legitimate reasons for grievance, but Trumpism, and
Trumpism weaponizes grievance, right? And it weaponizes
division, right? So this movement, it's ados, it's these
other things. Is based on this idea that there is something so
unique to the black slavery experience in the United States
that we should not be tolerating anybody else getting any kind of
oxygen or help or support or. Legislation or whatever, because
if they get any recognition, or if their suffering is
recognized, be they Bahamian or Haitian or new immigrants or
whatever, then it diminishes our story, because we're always at
the back of the line. So you start from this grievance of
we're always at the back of the line, and so therefore the only
way we can ever get to the front of line is that if we push
everybody else behind us, right? And that's a great theory if
you're in the majority, but in a country where you're 14% of the
population, that's a stupid theory. What that really is is
saying, Well, you black people, don't you dare connect with
those brown Hispanics, don't you dare connect with those Indians,
those those Asians that are immigrants. Don't you dare
connect with that LGBTQ community. Don't you dare
connect with those women who are on fire and allies for you.
Don't you do that? Because then when you get together, you might
be in a majority, and we don't want you to be
in the majority.
Moe Factz: Well, don't you connect with fill in the blank.
Keep holding the door. That's now you a lot of things. I'm
like, keep
Adam Curry: holding the door. Keep holding the door. Yeah,
that's what she's saying.
Moe Factz: Ver very, clearly, very if you can't get along with
the newly immigrants, if you can't get along with the LGBT,
if you can't get along with the women who on fire and ride for
you like Black Lives Matter, to exploit black male death, you're
saying to buy large mansions. Hey, you don't want to hold the
door no more. You're siding with the white supremacist. That's
basically what she's saying in a nutshell. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. And this is recent, right? This is, this is
a new piece. This
Moe Factz: was this week. This was this week. I love
Adam Curry: how I'd love a definition of Trumpism,
Trumpism, whatever she called it.
Moe Factz: Well, that's the Kanye voter,
Adam Curry: right? But still, that definition would be nice. I
mean, rich, successful, masculine, you know, in you
know, all of these things don't count. I guess it's all just
about the divisiveness and it's horseshit.
Moe Factz: Any signs of heterosexual, straight, super
straight black men that want to be accommodated, for our vote,
for our political power, for the use of our image. No, shut up.
Get to the Keep holding the door. Yeah, you know, saying you
can't have grievances. And this, what I what this does is this
parallel runs parallel, and then gender war as well. Go to work,
put all your money in the bank. Shut up. Don't say anything.
Don't you're saying, don't use that towel. This is what the
guys are hearing. And they're saying they're as they're
walking away from the political table. They're walking away from
the relationship table as well. It's the same mindset. It's
like, if I'm going to suffer, I might as well suffer on my own
right, which is, I'm pro family. I think they're saying, I don't
think that's a good idea, but in hindsight, well, not even
hindsight, and looking at relationships. Now, in 2022 and
I was a young man, I would be looking at the same way, like,
oh, wait a minute, like, this deal kind of sucks. I die
younger, I'm gonna be the blame for everything. I gotta be damn
near perfect. You just can't be regular. Can't be Joe the
electrician, you know, to make 70 $85,000 a year. No, that's
not acceptable. Something just
Adam Curry: hit me. You know, we talk about what happens with
black men in this situation, white men, they have their own
category of despair, which is INCEL I don't think there's a
lot of black incels, for some reason I just
Moe Factz: yesterday. Misconception, oh, okay,
Adam Curry: and vaping in the basement, playing video games,
is that the that's the basic they like.
Moe Factz: They like comic books and Samurai swords just that.
See, that's the thing with the image we've been portrayed,
either as thugs, yeah, or, you know, um, gay, or, you know,
some kind of athlete. And what's happening is these guys that are
underrepresented, uh, uh, no, just came to be drawn to Kevin
Samuels,
Adam Curry: do you think that? Do you think that, in general,
just as man to man, regardless of skin color background, do you
feel that a lot of transgenderism might be spurred
by this, like, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, beat
them, join them. Or, you know this, this just feels like
there's something there,
Moe Factz: I think, in that, you know what? I think that's on
both sides of the coin with transgenderism and queer ism
that's the new term for queerism. Like, is you. I can't
be a attractive woman, but I'll make for a cute boy. You see,
I'm saying that kind of thing, oh, my problem is a very
masculine boy. So I'll go to be a transgender gender woman. It's
kind of like these people trying to find their place in life,
yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: it's interesting, because the problems we're
discussing here transcend race and background. They are, they
are universal, but quite unique for black men, because you
literally, you know, get get abused when you're dead, to
start protests. I mean, that's what you're really good for.
That's
Moe Factz: the only value that we bring to the table. But I can
say, I mean, this is one of the, one of the few shows like I
said, race is not really that's not really the issue. Yeah,
other than the uniqueness of the tactics and outcome is the same
and the uniqueness to attack this is different. Am
Adam Curry: I correct in assuming that the biggest issue
you have personally is that this, this, this course, that
that these black women are are sailing on, will result in
ultimate depopulation of black America? It's
Moe Factz: the replacement theory. I'm just gonna lay it
out there. Right?
Adam Curry: Replacement, replacement with Islanders,
brown, everything but a DOS. You literally heard her call out
ados, yes,
Moe Factz: that. I think this plays a part into it. And in
general, we're all being replaced. That's what people
don't really want to understand, is we're all being replied, Oh
Adam Curry: no, I learned 81 episodes ago. It's like
everything that's happening to you is gonna happen to me. So
Moe Factz: it's raining over here. You're saying, oh yeah, oh
yeah. Wait,
Adam Curry: I've been paying close attention. Yeah.
Moe Factz: But so now we got to go back to Naomi Wolf, because
she's going to talk about the manipulation of the media on
men. Now,
Unknown: do you think that men are equally the victims of this
ideal?
Certainly in the last five years or so, advertisers have figured
out that it works, that you can target a vast market by making
people feel sexually inadequate and sexually insecure, and
increasingly, there's a new beauty myth being developed in
mainstream media aimed at men to undermine their feelings of
esthetic self worth, and psychiatrists are predicting a
rise in eating disorders among young men. However, I don't
believe in my lifetime, as long as men hold the balance of
economic power, that they will feel that their appearance
determines not only their attractiveness to women, if
that's who they're interested in, but their entire self worth
as a human being. In other words, men have role models in
the world all around them. Women's role models that they
see are largely confined to fashion models, and so until the
balance of power in society changes tremendously, I doubt
that men will see fashion models, male fashion models, and
view them as role models,
then you are essentially talking about power Exactly. That's
precisely what I'm talking about. Can I I left out an
interim link there? When I was explaining who's fault, who's to
believe, I described a social mood in which a new ideology was
desperately necessary. One of the new things, new points I
make in my book, which is very important, is that I am not
blaming men as individual lovers, husbands, fathers. I
don't believe that the pressure of this intensified, what I call
beauty backlash comes from individual men. I believe it
comes from institutions, male dominated institutions that are
safeguarding political power.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's interesting, because that and I
like, I think that's why I've always liked Naomi Wolf,
although I know recently, with the stuff where they are, her
head is turned around, we've came up with a new name for her.
She's a maga tard, which is kind of like Maga with libtard
combined. Is really, really interesting, how she how she's
transcended, and I've always liked that she attacks the
advertising business in the media, because that's been true
since advertising has existed. It's all about sex. Every
product is you're never going to get laid unless you buy this
product. It doesn't matter what the product is. That is
ultimately the message, almost always what she is
Moe Factz: different. Now, can I stop you right there? Because I
think it's different. Now, I think it's you're not gonna get
laid, so buy this product.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, um, I'll have to reevaluate. I have to
look at some, some mainstream and take, take a look. Possibly
the only thing I will say is that in the 1990s there were a
lot of female leaders in the world, East Germany, Nicaragua,
Ireland, Bangladesh. France, Poland, Turkey, Canada, Rwanda,
Sri Lanka, Haiti. I mean, there were women, and that's outside
of the United States. And by the way, those countries not doing
any better. So you know that that myth is kind of, it kind of
falls apart, although unique with a lot of the female leaders
in the world not childbearing women, a lot of leaders do not
have children.
Moe Factz: That was the the trade off, yes, career woman,
uh, delay you're, you're saying your child bearing years, yeah,
and that was part of, I
Adam Curry: don't have any at all that was, I mean, that was
part of the Women's Liberation Movement, that that was by their
own design.
Moe Factz: But let's just keep it. Let's just we're being well,
we always do, be completely honest. There is a supremacy
with women with children over women without children, and it's
been that way since the dawn of time. The greatest honor you can
have is to be a mother. Now we know that, due to medical
reasons or whatever women can have, can't have children for
whatever reason, and that's all the time seen as a curse in
older times, I'm saying, and, you know, but amongst women, and
they want to admit to it, but there is a, there's a hierarchy
of mothers over non mothers and and that's why they say, I want
to have it all. Listen to the you understand. And we're
talking about, we're not talking about everyday women here. We're
talking about the power, like you saying the power of brokers.
Then I want to have it all. I want to have the husband. I want
to have the powerful job. I want to have the children. You're
saying that worship me, you know, I want to have it all. And
there, there's a hierarchy, and I'm just going to be completely
honest about it, because I've noticed this over the years of
being married to a woman amongst certain groups, if it's wives,
that's the hierarchy over single women, women that are wives,
that are mothers, that's a hierarchy over just wives, yeah,
and if you're a working mom just married, oh, you're at the
pinnacle.
Adam Curry: It's so interesting. We have several female friends
who are single, age range 30 to mid 50s. And they all find it
incredibly hard to find someone, but when I question it, they set
the bar pretty high, pretty damn high. And, you know, I'm
Moe Factz: like me tell them. Told me I can have it all. Yeah,
and I'm not trivializing it. We've seen Disney talk about
grooming children. Disney have been grooming women, yes, and
it's, I'm saying this to bring attention to it, because it's
disgusting now, because we're saying it spilled back over on
men, and this is how you get the manosphere. So now I want to
talk about this is FD signifier, and he's going to give us a
dissection of the manosphere, and more specifically, the black
manosphere. And this is the result of those Castaway in
sales, whatever you want to call them
Unknown: up until now, I've mostly been talking only about
white men and boys. And while there is plenty of diversity in
all of these groups, there are some distinct differences in
what most refer to as the black manosphere, which has grown a
lot in terms of visibility in the last few years with figures
like Kevin Samuels and kind of fresh and fit. I'll get to that
later. That said, the black manosphere is not new, and to be
fair, at least on YouTube, it's probably been around a lot
longer in its current state than its white counterparts. And I
think it's important to like parse out some of these
differences before moving on, because we want to keep in mind
that these two groups definitely converge in some areas, but
separate in others. Unlike his white counterpart, the black
manosphere has the benefit of being able to subterfuge a lot
of his elements under the guise of pro black thought and
political discourse. Many, not all, but many of the figures in
the black manosphere present themselves as pro black
political figures and talking heads in conjunction with being
male advocates, and they just happen to pedal conservative,
misogynistic and every once in a while, homophobic rhetoric and
solutions to the issues that black people face. And I'm just
saying
to anybody, we don't, we can't we can't have a we can't be pro
black if you are, how do you how are you pro black and not
married? This is my issue with a lot. The pro black movement,
especially a lot of pro black women, I need to see your
husband
Moe Factz: once again. That's Kevin. Um, so the black
manosphere, this was that space when you weren't allowed to go
be on Black Twitter, and you had different interview differing
points of view. It's the counterweight. I think you used
that word before to Black Twitter, because Black Twitter
is basically ran by black women in the LGBT community and men
that adhere to those ways of thinking. So if you had any
semblance of respect for the patriarchy, oh no, you were
outcasted, or if you weren't cool enough, because that's
where the convergence of and I don't use this word and the way
it's used with nerds, right? You know, people that grew up
reading comic books, those kind of things that would seem not as
cool, right? Now, you've seen these guys actually become
successful, and they look for each other, and they found each
other in these channels, in these comment sections, and they
created their own lane of media to be honest with,
Adam Curry: right and this, this is what Kevin was, a a
recognized leader of, I guess
Moe Factz: he was, and he, technically, he was a hired hand
in the manosphere, because, like I said, his track on YouTube was
cologne videos and style videos, right? But he, but, you know,
he, they saw that he could, you know, saying some of the
leadership and manosphere saw that he could be, you know, uh,
a valuable asset. And, you know, he started representing the
manosphere, and he became the king of it. Who in the black
manosphere? I'm talking about the whole Kevin Samuels probably
was the king of the manosphere.
Adam Curry: Who else were leaders? Are leaders in the
manosphere.
Moe Factz: I mean, you got your obsidians, you got your Oh,
dude, Jackson's. These are guys that kind of set the tone. I
mean, it's and it's so many different variations. I mean,
you have it. It's like I said, it's a spectrum. You have guys
that don't, it's in the manosphere. Don't agree with
Kevin Samuels, you got guys there that are more red pill to
Kevin Samuels, you know, and say, You know that. And it's
like I said, it's a spectrum, um, but yeah, I mean, I want to
highlight this, to say this. This was formed by the outcast
of what you know, saying black male image was supposed to be.
And they form their own lane of media. And I've been, I've
walked those manosphere roles. I've been on some of those
panels you're saying, I don't, you know, I don't do groups of
any kind, um, but I can see where they had points, and I can
see I could be have critiques of it, but you still got to respect
anytime someone goes out, create their own
Adam Curry: lane. Now, but this is a bit like men go their own
way, like this movement.
Moe Factz: This was the black men you're gonna see because
that they couldn't really go the MGTOW route because of some of
the political and racial differences. So this was them
forming their own thing, even separate up. Can we say
manosphere? That's typically either the white manosphere or
just the manosphere in in general. And that's why they had
to put the black in front of it. This ain't no. This is, of
course, it has racial No, because it has some racial
differences, because when you get to politics, you know, um,
maybe a good portion of MGTOW might not agree with some of the
things that black men seek for politics. So that's why you have
the divergence. But a lot of the ideology is the same, that the
family court is a big problem, that marriage is a bad deal,
that women's expectations of men are highly overinflated those
kind of things. And I'm doing this, I'm doing this show seek
first understanding to be understood, because it's we're
going somewhere with this. But we gotta lay out where both
sides coming from. You have the third wave feminist, and then
you have the manosphere, and you got them throwing lobbing
insults and things back and forth to each other when they
really should be with each other. Yes,
Adam Curry: this is more like a civil war that's being created
here than anything. Yes,
Moe Factz: that's the whole goal of it. By the list of people,
seriously. I mean, I, like said, All roads lead the depopulation
for me. So I guess I'm going to get into 16 I. Insecurities
Unknown: and frustrations for black men that attract them to
the manosphere is pretty much the same as their white
counterparts, except that those frustrations, the financial
insecurity, the ugly breaks up, the divorces, child custody
battles, etc, are all made a bit more complicated by structural
racism. And along with that, because of structural racism,
they also are dealing with high death rates, lower access to
health care, and barriers to a lot of the ways that the
manosphere preaches for seeking self help. Historically, the
nature of patriarchy has mostly excluded black men in a
traditional sense, black men as a whole have never fully
encapsulated the patriarchal image of Father Knows Best,
doting wife, two kids and a dog. Even those black men that did
have those things were always still barred from the full
essence of what that framework was supposed to offer in terms
of respect and stability. You can be black and be the man of
the house and the man in your neighborhood, you were still
going to be called boy when the police came around, plenty of
black men between the 1920s and the 1960s contributed to
traditional male centric communities and played roles as
patriarchs in them, only for them to be burned down by white
terrorist mobs. However, I would argue that More typically, the
black manosphere grows out of conservative pro black
movements.
Moe Factz: That's where your policy is. Because, yes, yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, of course,
Moe Factz: yeah. And just go back to Luke for a minute. Luke
is buddying up with Marco Rubio down in Florida. Oh, he's
Adam Curry: doing the right thing.
Moe Factz: You see? What? No clue.
Adam Curry: He's got the brown brother bringing it. Oh, yeah,
he's got it on.
Moe Factz: They starting to see that Republicans are ready to
start opening the checkbooks and start to bring in some of these
voices of black men directly, because they're finally figuring
out, and I don't know if they figured it out, but it's they're
starting to realize the the oranges were, the juices were to
squeeze on pursuing the black male vote, and if nothing more,
look, this is what Luke said. Luke said, give me five reasons
why you should vote, not vote, democratically, not vote,
Republican, but not vote, because that's the easy position
to take. So just say, You know what, we shouldn't even vote.
Okay?
Adam Curry: So the monkey coming out of the sleeve, as we would
say in the old country, ultimately, everyone's being
controlled and being driven towards one thing, and that is
the correct political choice. What
Moe Factz: do you mean by correct political
Adam Curry: Democrat? Of course, anything but conservative
Republican or family values. It all has to be progressive.
Moe Factz: He has to be blue. Has to
Adam Curry: be blue. Because the funny, the funny thing is, is
that if you look at Trump and would they call Trumpism, what
we would call 45 savages, savage savagesm was actually, I think
Republicans don't even the Republican Party doesn't seem to
think about black black men or or women, for that reason, in
any they don't. They've never thought it through to control
any population that way specifically, but because of the
nature of masculinity, which is inherent to Trump and other
other political leaders like him, not many like him. But
that's the danger, is that it awakens something deep inside
men, certainly that gives them a purpose and a feeling of, yeah,
oh heck yeah. And I think that's the problem, right? That that
that's what is trying to be combated here. We have to steer
them away from that and at all cost,
Moe Factz: what Donald Trump, and I've said this since the
first show when he uttered those words, what do you have to lose?
Yeah, that was a bell that can't be Unruh, because that's the
same thing Luke is saying, the same person that brought you
Kamala Harris and certify her blackness. Now in 2022 is
saying, what do we have to lose, right? What have they? What we
have we gained? And if you can reach a political pundit like
Luke, that could be, you're saying, utilize, you know, to,
you know, validate a person's blackness. If that can be, you
can move that piece in the chessboard. Right now, we got a
game. And, yeah, hence the Rubio connection, you mean, right? And
hence the whoever, I mean, look at what going on over at Blaze.
I mean, you had Jason Whitlock do a two, two episode show on
Kevin Samuel, right? And the black manosphere. You hear
things like inclusive nationalism.
Adam Curry: Oh, I've seen, make no mistake when I and I, I love
me some J lock, 100 nothing wrong with that. But he is
totally his whole setup is political. I mean, the blaze,
it's very close to political parties. In my opinion, he's
getting the platform he wants. He's being promoted. He I think
he still has to stay in a certain Lane in that current
position, but he is, in fact, being used. He's getting a
message out that, that he that, that he stands behind, but he's
definitely being used for political means. And
Moe Factz: I wouldn't even say being used, because he
negotiated the deal, knowing going in that he found and
reason why I want to be the clearest. He's not autonomous.
Exactly. He has the appearance of autonomous, but when you look
down the bottom of that screen, you still see the blaze logo,
and that means you had to stay within outside these political
confines, like never say anything about reparations. You
know, it's certain things you can't mention, right, certain
guests you can't have on. But the fact that he sat down and
negotiated with a Glenn Beck to say, Hey, I gotta be able to
talk about these certain topics, you wouldn't be able to talk
about that maybe on a fox or no show. So I don't want to be
careful when you say use because he's conscious of it's a it's a
bartering. It's and this is the thing, like I said, this is a
maturation of black men and their political power before I
was like, was, let's do what's best for black people. But we
saw, for what the last six years, 810, years, that black
women have been pulling away on that. Want to make it clear, the
political class of black women have been pulling away and
trying to form their own demographic. So black men are
saying, Oh, well, it was good for the goose is good for the
gander. Let me, let's start making our own deals, right?
What's what's best for the, quote, unquote, our own
demographic? So I'm just one. I just want to lay that all out.
You know,
Adam Curry: whereas, of course, neither side can really have the
power if they don't work together, men and women
together, that's that, to me, is the model that works best.
Moe Factz: And what's even more evident is that in black
politics, because the black block is only valuable as a
block. You see, I'm saying the Democrat the women, have to
deliver the whole block. It's like, right? You didn't come by
themselves. It's no good, right? Like you gotta bring the man.
They gotta bring the man. Bring the men with you. They gotta get
that 80, 90% turnout to win an election. And I've no outgoing,
but I'm showing now. This is where the manosphere, black
manosphere, Kevin Samuels, you know what Whitlock is doing,
what you know what Luke is doing? You know what DeSantis is
doing for men down in Florida. You saw that, which helps a lot
of black men. Are you going to start seeing family court? I
think Kanye plays a factor in this, in the custody battle that
he's making very public. Keep an eye on that. Yeah, well, that's
a men's right tactic,
Adam Curry: and that's right, and that's men's rights across
the spectrum. Yes, I mean, that's, that has, that's, that's
goes way beyond skin color and everything. It's in divorce
court, Family Court, men typically just set up to lose
right?
Moe Factz: And I think that's why I said, it's why Kanye is
planning out publicly. Because you gotta remember, was he, what
is he doing in 2024 you see what? Saying, like, Kanye just
don't do stuff, just to do it. I mean, 2020 was like a testament.
Like, what does that leave him in 2024 it sets him up nicely,
dude. Hey, family quarters a big problem. I went through. I got a
billion dollars. I still went through this. Yeah, what's guy
with? Uh, you know, make $15 I guess we can go ahead and wrap
up with the third clip of the ministry,
Unknown: as I alluded to in previous videos, older
generations of black people who faced a more intense and overtly
hostile world of racism and also bore witness to really ugly
images and experiences of crime and violence from their own
people in black neighborhoods were very susceptible to a line
of thinking that said that black people's biggest problems was
themselves, and that if we just rejected the uglier and negative
aspects of black life and culture and focused more into
mimicking what we saw from whiteness, that we would be
better off as a people. And to be fair, this isn't wholly
untrue. Being closer to whiteness has always been good
for people of color, so lighter skinned black people with
certain types of hair or phenotypical features or even
names are historically much more likely to fare better in America
under white supremacy. But as I alluded to in the Ashdod video
and other videos, crime and criminality is socially
determined. By poverty and lack and environment and structural
barriers and the ability of a handful of black folks to
effectively maneuver white supremacy using what we call
respectability politics is not a real solution to the issues that
black people face. The core factor to crime in black
communities is how these communities are designed and
police, not how the people behave or wear their hair or
wear their pants,
Moe Factz: and that's that surface, various surface hair
pants kind of thing. What he should have been more folks,
this is my critique of what he was talking about, is the design
of the community. And design of the community is design the
family, and design a family flaw is no man, yeah,
Adam Curry: it's not a family. That's exactly a family. And
that was by design, that was absolutely by design.
Moe Factz: And you don't even hurt here the term broken home
anymore. You know, that used to be a
Adam Curry: term, oh, yeah, he comes from a broken home. He
needs a little bit of extra patience,
Moe Factz: right? So now it's just like, oh, that's normal.
Which, like I said, we're all figuring out what you're saying.
We've all, hey, nobody knew where this gender thing was
going. I've seen a lot of marriages, you know, dissolve
out of trivial situations that the media hyped up to be big
things, you know for every I mean, you remember maybe 1015,
years ago, every reason was a reason to get a divorce. Hey,
Mo,
Adam Curry: this is my third marriage. So, I mean, you,
you're preaching to the choir here.
Moe Factz: No, but the media. The media made it a point like,
Oh, you're not happy. Be happy. You know that kind of thing.
It's like, oh,
Adam Curry: but, but I saw this happen to my parents with the
books and and television shows and, I mean, once all in the
family went away, for white people, it was all about it was
over. There was there was, I don't know how many, well, let's
see. That's not true. Family Ties. You know, that's the kind
of culture that shows a family in a positive light. But you
know, the days of Little House on the Prairie are long gone.
All of that hurt across the board. But you know, what color
is my parachute books like this. There was a, I think there was,
it's a lot of influence from outside, a lot of it, and quite
honestly, loss of faith, loss of church, these are things that I
think stimulate family. And that's actually where Naomi Wolf
has come around to as well. It's like we got a problem here
Moe Factz: and the ideals, because women, not only women,
are manipulated by ideals. Everybody's manipulated ideals.
And it's this thing about trophy wives. And I mean, like, I mean
that goes cuts both ways. But it's
Adam Curry: also all, it's all media creations, trophy wives,
wives and girlfriends of soccer players, football players. And
just as Naomi Wolf said, Now, you know, going on 30 years ago
or 2025, years ago. It's all media based, and it's and what
what you get is what you will consume, whether it's true or
not. You This is thrown in your face every single day where, you
know, for months we've been so concerned about Ukraine, oh, my
goodness. But you know, the United States is actively
fighting wars in like four other countries, where people are
dying and and it's probably more are doing than anything. None of
that is portrayed. So therefore it doesn't exist.
Moe Factz: And if it does exist, they want to demonize it,
correct? And this is, this is where the black man got I saw
the hair writing on the wall, uh, this is before Kevin Samuels
passed. I start seeing all the guy because I follow most of the
guys. And I'm saying, to keep it, keep a track on the content
they make. And I start seeing them step right. Is it time to
go? Is it is the end of the manosphere near we're stepping
I'm stepping away from the manosphere. They start feeling
one guy, MTR, mediocre tutorials and reviews. He started feeling
the pressure on the economic side of it, where they he had
did a video with Kevin Samuels and one of these advertisers
pulled up, pulled out on him. And like he, like everybody,
started dashing away from the manosphere after that, you know,
and using that terminology, and I started, I thought, like, hold
on, what's going on here? So I started doing a quick Google
search, and I see l magazine. They write an article. My brush
with the black manosphere. Ooh, this up the brush, my brush.
Yeah, right. After an ill fated zoom day, I wandered down an
online rabbit hole into the hyper masculine space for Red
Pill black men. And this is on january 25 so yeah, you know
what that when you start getting articles like this, you start
becoming a tiger. Um, and that's why I said they started changing
the terminology from disinformation to misinformation
to Mal information, which takes us back to number, uh, 17, a and
this is from show 80. If
Unknown: you were to dive into the dark web, you'd find a lot
of information you couldn't find with, say, just a simple Google
search and a lot of what's down there is simply false
information. In recent years, that false information has made
its way to mainstream platforms. Now, a simple Google search will
show you ideas, thoughts and movements previously hidden away
from the dark corners of the internet. To protect yourself
against what's false and harmful, you need to understand
how that information comes to exist in the first place and how
it comes across your social media feeds. Now there are three
different types of content as identified by first draft. That
is an organization fighting to bring you truth on what you read
and watch, disinformation, misinformation and Mal
information. Collectively, these three groups are known as
information disorder. Let's start with the first,
disinformation is intentionally false. It's designed to cause
harm, that's often backed by motivations to make money, to
have political influence or cause trouble, just for the sake
of it. The second, misinformation that's also false
content, but the person sharing it doesn't realize it's false or
misleading. This is driven by socio psychological factors.
These people want to feel connected to their tribe,
whether that's the same political party activists for
climate change or those that belong to a certain religion,
race or ethnic group. Finally, Mal information. This is genuine
information shared with the intent to cause harm. An example
is when Russian hackers hacked the Democratic National
Committee Hillary Clinton's campaigns and emails, they leak
certain details just to damage reputations. So before you hit
or share or retweet, stop and ask yourself how that
information came to exist and weather gets it all credible.
Adam Curry: I love that. This is misinformation by itself. That's
the best part. So, so meta, so meta. Love that.
Moe Factz: So Mal information. This is the one we need to keep
our eye on, because if it's true, even if it's true, if
you're saying from a place of hurt or to cause hurt, then it's
mal information. So this is where the black this is where
Kevin Samuels, where the black manosphere, even the manosphere
in general, they'll use certain facts, like, you know, uh, jet,
geriatric pregnancy. They'll weaponize that. They'll
weaponize because I'm just being being honest here. One of the
other things is single mothers. They'll weaponize that, as far
as having children by another guy, other guys, multiple guys,
they'll weaponize that, and then the one they love the most. And
you heard even DL say it leftover women. So have you
heard this term before?
Adam Curry: No, no, but I can imagine what it means. Okay,
Moe Factz: so just this is talking about in China, because
this is a global phenomenon. This is not just this is not
just domestic, but this is a good explanation for what
leftover women are.
Unknown: Have you ever been called a leftover woman?
Yeah, sometimes,
no matter how excellent you are, how capable you are, in the
larger society's mind, you're not as good as a man.
My name is Wei Ting, and one of the feminists who get arrested
before the International Women's Day.
We're in China, where women are experiencing unprecedented
financial freedom, and since Mao founded the People's Republic of
China in 1949 having joined equal rights to men. Well, at
least on paper. Up until the Communist revolution, women were
pretty much considered property and their feet were tied. Then
Mao, when breaking the norms of social class and gender,
declared that women carry half the sky and gender equality was
written into the Constitution.
I would always admit that I'm a beneficiary of the socialist
women's liberation.
Remember how American women were empowered to join the workforce
in the 1940s when the men left for war and then sent back to
the kitchen. In the 50s, when they returned, back in the days
of Mao, there wasn't enough manpower to build a new China.
So women joining the workforce were celebrated as iron girls.
These days, however, feminists are being detained, and for
almost a decade, unmarried women older than 27 have been called
the derogatory term Xiongnu, which means leftover women.
Adam Curry: It's really interesting. Thing you know,
China has everything they say is they've been the opposite of
depopulation. They've been desperately trying to repopulate
after the incredibly stupid one child policy. I think it's, I
think they're now trying to force everyone to have three and
they can't make it happen.
Moe Factz: One, because they don't have no baby making
machines. That's right, that's the crazy thing about the left
and what I mean by this women, as I call women, top machines,
because, like, you deposit your genetic material in there, and
they move it forward through time. Oh,
Adam Curry: my goodness. Cancel cannon aimed at you. Mofax, no,
I'm not. You can't talk like that. You can that's, that's
what gets you canceled the fastest. Don't you be praising
anything high? Like, no, no, no, time machines.
Moe Factz: I mean, like, Hey, we gotta understand. But that's the
problem. And the irony of it is in China, women. Men outnumber
women significantly due to the one child policy. So most of the
families kept the male child, and they even have leftover
women. So you have this abundance of men, this minority
of women, and even still, over there, if you're older than 27
you looked at as leftover women. Now I can give context to that,
because the men, it's the mentality that the men look at
in the women. Because I had co workers, former co workers, that
were from China, and I know me, I'm gonna ask, and the women
looked at, if you cook, that was regressive. You know, that was a
negative thing, if you don't, it was they were very masculine in
their thinking, and that that was the problem with the clash
with the men. It was like, I don't want to marry a dude. No,
I was just saying, I mean, that was the mentality of it. Um, so
that's what, how you get the leftover women there? Here, it's
a little different, because you have more, you have more women
per capita than in China, but yet, still, for whatever reason,
women are looked at as, by the manosphere, as leftovers,
because either, like, say they're older and or the
mentality they have as far with feminism, or either they have
children by another man, or whatever, that seemed
undesirable. So this is that the machine pushing out expectations
on the men now, oh, you can't be a stepdad, you know, that kind
of thing, which let me make it clear how I view about being
stepdad. I think men should be open to marry women that have
children, but I don't think they should ever be stepdads. I know
you're gonna ask me, What the hell you mean. So go ahead and
ask me what I mean.
Adam Curry: Yeah, what the hell you mean?
Moe Factz: What I mean by that is, if I'm willing to marry you,
you should be able to make me a full parent of your children.
Don't be a stepdad. Stepdad sucks. I mean, especially when
you're talking about with younger children. This is my
opinion. Like I said, everything I'm saying in this show, right?
You're right. Advice I would give to my son. So you're
getting the 100 you're saying unvarnished truth here. Reason
why I'm saying that is, if you're going to marry a woman
with a child, I would say you need to get full custody that
child, because nobody wants to go into that situation being uh.
Adam Curry: So now you but now you basically invoke the family
court system to screw a fellow man out of out of a visitation
or CO parenthood. Maybe that's something that he wants, because
you put a you put a veto down on it, because that's how that
would get played out. That would go straight to family court and
then that's kind of kind of twisted that way. I understand,
right? I understand what you're saying
Moe Factz: that will make you want to seek out a woman that
maybe the guy wasn't in the picture, or, let's start
reading, he'll be able to tell your families he was saying, if
it's not that big of a deal, why y'all split up once y'all get
back together, you see what I'm saying. But if you're going to
marry a woman with a child, I just think, just speaking from a
man, since nobody wants to be able to pay for the college, pay
for the I'm saying, pay for everything, and then you're not
my dad, shut up. It's like,
Adam Curry: okay, no, I Yes, I understand. Okay. I mean, I have
stepdaughters, but they, they came into my life, and they were
already in college, and I didn't pay for it. Now, ever since
then, ever since then, I have all kinds of privileges of
helping out, and as is Tina with my daughter,
Moe Factz: it is a little different, older I'm talking
about young, because what I would like to see is it's a lot
of great. Eyes out here that would make great fathers. You
have a lot of women out here with a guy. May not be in the
picture, or they just whatever reason I want to, I'm pro
family, but I would advise that guy, Hey, get you a good deal.
It's all about the deal. I mean, this is, this is where a it's
transactional if you want to be with that woman, she wants you
to be, raise her son as your own. Get it on paper, get legal
rights, get custody. Because if you're going to love that kid
saying you don't have any barriers that can get on up in
your face later, that's just my opinion. I appreciate,
Adam Curry: I appreciate your opinion, and I can't really put
myself in that situation, because I've never been in that
situation, right?
Moe Factz: Because I've seen a lot of guys get attached,
Adam Curry: yeah, only for the to be taken away,
Moe Factz: right, or get your you know, that's not your child,
right? Don't talk to my child that way. So this is my advice
to my son. It is
Adam Curry: interesting how when the dog does something that is
not what is bad, it's always my dog. It's very interesting how
that works. Meanwhile, oh, you're doing modes tonight.
Well, I just, I'm just gonna sit with my dog. Oh, okay,
Moe Factz: welcome to my club. That's the first block.
Hopefully, like I said, laid out some of the logistics and the
gender war, it is real. I don't think it's beneficial in any
way. So that's why I'm making this show. Hopefully, we were
saying we could get people to lay down arms and have a peace
treaty, but we gotta think some people first,
Unknown: first the white man and the black man have to be able to
sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to
speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro, and
the so called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without
hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring
the issues that are under the rug out on top the table and
take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's
the only way that they'll ever do it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it turns out we can discuss Gender Wars. And
actually black and white helps in that too. It helps us, you
know, kind of cut through all the all the pieces, because
there's a lot of puppet masters pulling everybody's strings.
Yes, there is, this is a value for value. Podcast twice, or
maybe three times. In this, in this first bit that we've been
talking, we've discussed how none of this works with
advertising. In fact, a lot of it is based on advertising, and
this entire conversation is not possible in the traditional
media format. That's why we are doing a podcast. First of all,
it's value for value, meaning we're not going to be dependent
on corporate advertisers who will not touch us with a 10 foot
pole. I mean, shoot, they didn't even want to advertise on Barack
Obama and Bruce Springsteen podcasts, and that thing sucked.
You know, they didn't even touch any good topics, and they had to
close down the show. So we just want to receive value equal to
the value that you, the listener, the producer, has
received from the work that we've presented. Now this is
this episode, 82 shows. A lot of work has gone into this. I
shouldn't even think about how many hours of work has gone into
this, not just the recording, but all the preparation. So we'd
love to thank what we call our producers, executive producers,
Associate Executive producers in this first block, who have
actually done one of the three T's, the time, the talent, the
treasure, lots of people helping out with time and talent,
propagating, letting people know about the show, showing up on
the on the YouTube lives, doing all kinds of stuff, which is
part of the fax machine that is whirring in the background, and
in this at this moment, we're going to thank the executive
producers who really understood what we talked about on the last
show. Is that, hey, you need to step it up if we need everybody
at least providing some value, if we can continue with this.
And a lot of people heard that call loud and clear, and we
appreciate it. Harvey Cody is right off the top, and I guess
we're just going to bestow the honor
Unknown: upon
him. Shot Caller 20 is Blaze only. Impala, $555.55
Adam Curry: we got to come up with a name for that donation.
It's not a what, five by five? Ah, yes, of course, five by
five, perfect. And he says, more Mo, fax, please. That's all he
says. That's, that's, that's the kind of note we love. Harvey,
thank you so much. It's really appreciated. Following close
behind Jimmy James, who says, Mo, I wish you all the best and
hope this helps. It's not for me, but God, all as all I own is
his anyway. Adam, I'm so excited to hear that you are seeing his
light, and from my experience, it's the most fulfilling and
greatest journey I ever undertook, trying to understand
his word and plan for me, which I still seem to be figuring out,
but that's okay. May you both continue to be blessed. And bear
good fruit. Mo karma for all. Thank you, man, that's very
nice. Absolutely,
Unknown: you've got
Adam Curry: mo karma. I mentioned that once on the show,
at the end of three and a half hours, a lot of people listen to
the whole show, apparently, yeah, a lot of people said, oh,
it's nice to hear what you're talking about there cave.
Moe Factz: And even outside product. Now,
Adam Curry: it's true. Cape, $400.33 and and Cape says, Hey,
sad puppy donation. Yeah, this, this is, this is when we, when
we put out the call, we typically in the value for
value. What world called that the sad puppy. It's like, hey,
you know this puppy is sad. If you don't help, the puppy's
going to the pound. So he wants to be dead beaded right away.
Unknown: Congratulations, you're no longer a deadbeat. And
Adam Curry: now he also says that he's been streaming his
precious Satoshis through fountain, the fountain app,
which he will continue to do. I'll be thanking some of our
booster grammars later on, as an incredibly healthy 31 year old,
he writes, I was conveniently handed the option of being
vaccinated in order to keep my job, fortunately, and to my own
disgust for not following in a similar path as yourself, I
applied for and received an exception, but I know that I'll
be one of the first on the chopping block for the next go
around. As I know this is nowhere being over. I'm no
longer allowed into the office, and I've been working remotely
while my safe and effective teammates are allowed to go in
as they please. Ironically, I'm one of the best employees on my
team have received a promotion and generous pay bump in the
time that time frame somewhat keeping up with the real
inflation rate. Because of this, I feel obligated to send you
this donation. I found your show through no agenda and no agenda
through Tales from the Crypt. Oh, Marty bent man, nice. I
can't begin to explain the amount of value and
entertainment I get from you and Adam working through these
complex topics together. But more importantly, thank you for
standing up for what you believe is right in a world where morals
and first principles are becoming non existent, and for
showing that even when there seems there's no hope, opting
out is still a choice, as long as you're willing to fight for
it, I'm sure that once your kids are old enough to understand
your decision, they will be that will be one of the greatest life
lessons you could give them. Although I haven't left my
tyrannical company yet, my number one priority right now
has been finding a way to gain financial sovereignty, or at
least find a company that doesn't want to shove a needle
in my arm. Yes, indeed, cape, and this is based upon your path
that you took, Mo, and you definitely chose a path of
freedom and and being a free sovereign man, which is
beautiful to see, that's great. Mark wants a biscuit on my
birthday, and he says you're gonna need a Bitcoin from
Reverend Manning.
Unknown: They always give me a biscuit on my birthday
that's handed all hell is gonna break loose, and you're gonna
need a Bitcoin. Ain't
Adam Curry: that the truth? Jason Istra, I think 366 32
exceptional work. Been hooked for a while now, so I need to be
d dead beaded,
Unknown: congratulations, you're no longer a deadbeat. Follows
Adam Curry: it with this is just my cash back earned for the year
so far. That's a great way when you get like that, free money,
like that, cash back money. Think of mofox. Kathleen
Anderson, my favorite number 333, dot, 33 Mo and Adam, thank
you. Kathleen says this is my first donation. Long overdue. I
started listening around episode 56 then went back and listened
to all the episodes. I'm amazed at the information and
enlightening enlightenment I've received. I have a question,
with all the deceit, lies and manipulation, when does it end?
Well, the podcast will be over. A lot of podcasts would end if
it ended
Moe Factz: when you stop letting me manipulate
Adam Curry: you, that's where it ends, and we're gonna D deadbeat
you for that. Congratulations.
Unknown: You're no longer a deadbeat.
Adam Curry: Dave cardena, hold on a second. Here we go. I got
this one. Finally. Dave cardena sends two, two, 3.09. He's
cousin Vito, for those in the know. Interesting donation
amount, He says he'd like some GBG and Woosah karma, please.
Steven page, $150 producer credits kratom batch kitchen
done with the watering berries basement and on the next job
assignment, wanted to send donation last week. This is
code, but was informed that the gavel pits are planning to
strike back at work today, not sure if they will, hope they'll
settle. Need a little more karma to keep working, to keep the
voodoo. That you do and Adam do. So well, okay, we got the
message. Hope everything works out. You've got mocom, A, one,
two, 3.45, donation for Philip Balu, and he just says, value.
Thank you. That's exactly what we want. That's the value you
assign. We really appreciate it. Philip B Brown, uh, a row of
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Uh, K, I, five. November, Tango, Yankee. Thank you very much. 70
threes. That's a ham speak. Uh, Moho, Hamster, right? Ryan nado,
uh, $100.21 a donation. He says, I don't want to be a deadbeat
anymore. Well, you came to the right place.
Unknown: Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. Bonnie
Adam Curry: Ray, we're still the executive producer. Chips here
with $100 I appreciate the knowledge. Thank you. Bonnie
says. Guiseppe Conte, $100 love the show. Thanks. Mo and Adam,
long time no agenda. Listener been enjoying mo facts from the
beginning and could not continue without donating. Please dead d
beat D, deadbeat. Me, congratulations.
Unknown: You're no longer
Adam Curry: I think this is the most D, dead beatings we've had
in any show. Man, this
Moe Factz: is like family court and
Adam Curry: the MO, karma as well. Here we go. Mocom. We got
$100 from Mr. Unnecessary and not dizzy for episode 82 peace.
Mo and Adam started listening around the Cosby episode hit my
wife upside the head a few shows later, being true, Cosby
fashion, a D dead beating is in order for both of us. What I
hope you don't mind sharing, here you go.
Unknown: Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat.
Adam Curry: Big thanks for what you do, because in October of
last year, petroleum based shenanigans threw me like
whirlwind. But I say, no, no Vaseline, we back. I
Moe Factz: think that's something PayPal. PayPal is
Adam Curry: doing something weird. Yeah.
Moe Factz: Anyway, he says, We're quote in there, yeah, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. PayPal threw some no Vaseline, we're back on
our feet, and had to return a fraction of the value guys have
provided in these incredibly gangster times. This is the MF,
Doom of podcast, excellent production, game changing
content and just different. Y'all keep killing it. Thank you
very much. Mr. Unnecessary, here's what I would recommend.
We have so many people D dead, beating themselves. Sometimes
you have to call someone out as a deadbeat if you know that
they're listening and they haven't provided any value back.
It's always fun to try. Miguel Lopez, our last executive
producer, he says episode 81 put me over the top. Had to donate
for that one. Keep up the great work. God bless. Then our
Associate Executive producers, Aaron Sneed, now we have two,
two donations from him, totaling $85 family and community
building. He says, Thank you very much for the facts. Fam.
Jennifer Dorney, $81 mo in honor of episode 81 and the year of my
birth, I so look forward to these shows you masterfully
weave these rabbit holes together. So much love to you,
Adam and the whole facts family, please keep shining the light in
the dark places. I do need some mo karma please. Also, is there
a jingle for financial freedom karma? We could all use that in
this clown show world we are living in. Um, I don't know if
we have a financial
Moe Factz: if we don't, we need one. We do, yeah, we do,
Adam Curry: well, you know, we can. We can always just combine
it with uh, so she needed a D dead beating as well. No, just
the MO karma. We'll do, yeah, we'll try it like this. Here's
your financial freedom.
Unknown: You've got mocom.
Adam Curry: That's what I consider to be financial
freedom. Donald Francis, $75 thank you for that. Donald Edwin
Torres, $60 and he wants the GBG jingle. We got the jiggle. We
Robert Steger, two donations from in value for value totaling
$50 Thank you very much. Caroline Alexander, $50 your
invaluable insights. Thank you for everything you do. Marcus
hazard, let's not forget, Marcus says that you can't just send
money one time to not be a deadbeat. A regular court
ordered once a month payment is probably a solution. See, this
is the man who gets it. D, dead, beat me, yeah. D, deadbeat me
again. All right,
Unknown: congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. He
Adam Curry: says I couldn't afford to pay a fact support
payment these last few months because I purchased a fact
support. I. I purchased a ring regardless I expect visitation.
So I request somebody who isn't me to start up to start up a
meet up in Northern Virginia. Yes, Mo, you don't have to show
like Adam. I'd like to keep my imaginary image of you in my
mind. You look like my best friend's dad. I got to tell you,
it's, it's, it's odd that way. It's like, yeah, you know
sometimes Yeah, I I have to meet you because I got to hug you one
of these days, maybe just do a blindfolded that should work.
Fine, too. Oops. Lost my place here. Here we go. So yes, in my
mind, give me enough Oh, phone chirp, if that's not too much
trouble, yes, I'd like yak karma, because yaks are cool.
Make blacks like Yaks. And then he says, don't like
Moe Factz: kanyak. What's that? I said we do like Kanye. Is that
true? That's another name for Yak. Oh,
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Moe Factz: That may be a Space Jam reached. I'll go with it.
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Moe Factz: What do you think it's funny? Funny that he brings
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Moe Factz: We're glad that everybody supported us. We're
saying for this episode and previous episode of the show. So
So now I want to get more into with what is her name. Naomi was
talking about, about the corporate funding. And I in my
truck that I've been driving, I don't have Bluetooth, so I've
had to listen to the radio, and it is some of the most mind
numbing mind control that you ever want to hear, to the point
I had called my man a young girl one day, and I just had to vent
to I'm like, I've been indoctrinated, you know. So I
want to give an example of what they're playing on the radio.
Now,
Adam Curry: what's, what's, what station is this that you listen
this is between
Moe Factz: either 93 nine or 95 five, both out of Washington,
DC, and they go in and out. So I can sometimes even get the
Howard radio station as well the campus radio.
Adam Curry: But you live out in the sticks, don't you? It's
like, like, I can, can barely get Dc on the wireless? Martha,
yeah,
Moe Factz: I had to come out when things make sense. But this
is I found out about this podcast by one of the hosts or
one of the radio shows, the morning hustle, and that's
hosted by L'Oreal, and she co hosts with Eva Marcel, that's
the top model winner.
Unknown: Oh, yeah. She
Moe Factz: now she works with Ricky smiley on the Ricky smiley
morning show. So they have a podcast together. So it's
amazing how much indoctrination goes across the radio. So they
play segments from this episode of their podcast on the radio.
Yeah, this is where we're at. Like, podcast is taking our
radio um, so this one was called, The episode was called
single black females, and the first clip on Play is this shows
that their corporate fund at my Macy's. So just to let people
know where the money's coming from,
Unknown: see how we undress this whole entire mess on the
undresser podcast, brought to you by Macy. You
know what? I gotta give a little shout out to Macy's. You know, I
love Macy's. They're always pulling up. They are always
involved in what we care about in the community. It is that
time of the year again, everybody. Yes,
Adam Curry: it is Kwame. So join
Moe Factz: me. Go back. Not that community. Go back a little bit.
I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. I was like, it's Kwanzaa. No, I was wrong.
The year again. Oh, wait, no, I know what it is. I know
community.
Unknown: It is that time of the year again, everybody, yes, it
is pride. So join Macy's this pride month at the Trevor
Project, national pride partner, for the fourth year in a row,
they have raised over $3.4 million to help more than 53,000
LGBTQ young people in
crisis. That is amazing. We have to help them continue their
impact by rounding up your purchases in store. It's super
simple, easy as that. You can also donate online this month
and to support suicide prevention services for the
LGBTQ youth and wow, it's not really easy out here. When you
have people judging you and you may not be, you may feel a
little different than others, because that's how people make
you feel, you know. So sometimes you make people feel down, and
we want to make sure that that is not the case. Or at least we
saw how. How can we help again? Tell me, okay, so you can shop
LGBTQ owned brands and pride merger. Search from brands like
Levi's, Calvin Klein, coach, it's a bunch of different
varieties and more. You can find all of this out by going to
macy.com's forward slash purpose. I
Adam Curry: am so happy you played this because I am
shorting Macy's stock immediately. I mean, they're
really catering to a very, very small group at this point, but
they're making it look really it's at least we know where
these podcasters are coming from
Moe Factz: now. Now you see what now me wolf was talking about
corporate funding.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there it is. There's your advertising right
there, Naomi, we've moved the needle backwards,
Moe Factz: and it's disguised as podcasting. Because when people
hear the word podcasting, they think organic. It's kind of like
we see organic on a food box. Yes, you
Adam Curry: think grass fed. Be healthy grass grass fed.
Moe Factz: So I had to play that. Now, you heard them about
being accepting right now, we gotta be accepting of people
that's different. This is what they're saying about the
community. Yes, now, now we're going to 21 when they start
talking about black men. Now,
Unknown: speaking of purpose, what's going on with these um
statistics? What? What are they saying in the research about
these men out here, they're
saying that there's not enough black males who fit the needs of
black women. Go figure now on all black social society,
recently, they interviewed the host of marry me now, Rebecca
Lynn Pope, and asked her why black men are struggling in the
relationship department. Well, she breaks down, why black women
to get married? And it's because they're accelerating faster than
black men. Now, based on research, women want to marry
men on their level or higher, financially and economically in
status. Now here's what she had to say. What
do you think the challenge is that women are having black
women in particular when it becomes to becoming a wife.
Well, honestly, keeping it 100 not enough eligible black males
who fit the needs of black women. By the time you dissect
the demographics, of finances, sexual orientation, what you end
up drilling down into, because black women tend to want to
marry black men, right, right? You're now dealing with people
who are either financially not ready. A lot of black women,
black women, are starting businesses at 4.5 times the rate
of any other population or ethnic group sex, four point
time, 4.5 times more than men, twice is more than white women.
So black women are excelling. They're getting accelerated
degrees, graduate degrees, doctorate degrees. They're
starting businesses. Black women are running circles around men.
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness. So because this group, black women
have are given money, hand over foot by political operatives,
and they are now poo pooing black men because they're either
poor, broke or gay or gay. But
Moe Factz: we gotta, we gotta support the LGBT community. Hey,
isn't that kind of working against what you're trying to do
here?
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Does this mean that eventually black
women should be marrying trans black men,
Moe Factz: trans black women that look like black men? Yes,
that's yeah, trans man like Niecy Nash, yeah, uh huh, wow,
yeah, that's that. That was like the new face of black love and a
cover essence her and her, uh, her, um, trans partner. Well,
really, the point, yeah. The point I want to make is this is,
this is what's being pumped out there. And notice we're not
talking about all black women here. They're talking about the
PhDs, as Kevin Sam will call them, uh, we've got our PhDs. We
got our money. Now we're looking for our mates, not realizing
that that deal you made with feminists. Kind of hurt, yeah,
kind of hurt black men. And now they look around and look for
their counterparts, and they can't find them. And then they
try to put it off on the men. But while, while all the time
talking about systemic racism and how oppressive it is, and
they say, black men, why can't you get your crap together? It's
like, hold on. I thought it was a thing called systemic racism
that was holding me down. Yeah, I understand that, but it
doesn't affect me. We know that's the point. That was the
wedge. That's the wedge issue. Let you get yours, give you your
money, and I'm not taking away anything for anybody. But as you
pointed out, you had during 2020, during George Floyd peak.
George Floyd, right there. Writing checks to who they want
to write them to black men, even though black men were the face
of the oppression. No, I
Adam Curry: think everyone has seen Patrice colors multiple
homes, exactly.
Moe Factz: So I'm just saying like this and but they don't
speak for all black women, but what they do is Macy is funding
this. That's why I played that first clip. Yep, this is
corporate media pumping these ideas into a trap audience. And
Adam Curry: I guess I don't have to point out that that Macy does
this also under duress from the environmental, social
governance, the ESG score. You
Moe Factz: better. You better believe it. Yep, you better
believe it. But also, Macy also benefits from this, because
unhappy women participate in retail therapy, and let me buy
that right dress while I look good to get the man. And why
don't I look pretty enough? Let me go buy some more makeup and
let me know that kind of thing. So it's a win win for them.
Adam Curry: Macy's definitely very female centric, yes, yeah.
Moe Factz: So I'm just saying like it's a win win for them,
because what do you do when you're unhappy? You go shopping.
Yeah. And where you gonna do that shopping? At Macy's. Who
brings you this podcast? Let's go and get to part three, right?
Unknown: And it's also shown in research that women want to
marry on their same level of financial and educational
status. So if you're a black woman making $150,000 a year
with a master's degree, you tend to want to marry a black man on
that same level or higher.
Wow, about to be brownie. Find me my white man, Okay, listen,
oh my goodness, there's so much in this. So I feel sis. I think
there are two things in this that stuck out to me. One of
them is this idea kind of came up this morning on the morning
show. We touched on it a little bit, but just the idea that we
all out here trying to get married and have kids anyway. So
let's start with that topic, the idea that if you meet a 32 year
old single black woman is because she has failed to find
love versus she has prioritized herself and her career. Not
everyone is built for marriage, and not everyone prioritizes
marriage. It is very disgusting to assume that, because I am a
woman, I am out here looking for a man to do anything for me, at
least, fill me up at best, provide and protect me. And so
that is the first problem, I believe.
Moe Factz: So yeah, that's, that's a married woman talking.
She's married, yes, wow. And she's pretty privileged, because
that's the, that's, that's uh, she's on the radio. No, that's
uh, that's the, that's the top model, oh,
Adam Curry: the, oh, that's who's talking. Oh, my goodness,
yeah.
Moe Factz: So yeah, you know, I'm saying like she's married,
happily married, with children and everything. But then she
goes through this whole spiel about, you know, it's who to say
something's wrong with me for not doing one to be married. But
that's kind of how media sells it to you. If something's wrong
with you, men aren't saying something. Yeah. So I never
understood this, that the man is gonna pick the woman that he
wants. Why are they making it about all men, and even Amy Wolf
says not men that are pushing this. Well,
Adam Curry: that's also pretty that's also Disney, yes, that's
also deeply embedded. It's funny, Tina and I were talking
about that the other night. And, you know, I'm fascinated by the
history of money and and how it came to be. And, you know,
diamonds became a thing, and the history of diamonds as as you
know, for marriage engagement, etc, really started in the 1930s
when gold was confiscated. You were no longer allowed to you
could have a little bit of gold, but it could, you know, you had,
everyone had to hand over their gold in the United States, and
then, so, you know, that was the main thing you would give as a
dowry to your future wife, you know, either actual gold bars,
coins or gold, of course, that later turned into more
traditional rings and other things. And when that went away,
that, you know, this basically useless stone, which looks real
pretty, that came into being, and they just made up this two
months salary, you know, to buy the perfect ring. And it's all
corporate media and deception. Beers, the beers, the beers owns
the whole system. They own all the mines. They set the price,
and now they're selling diamonds made in a lab.
Moe Factz: And it's, that's the other thing. Is like, Yeah, you
can't even. Can tell, really, I mean, you can tell, I'm saying
if you do some kind of test on it, but, yeah, a lot of this
diamond lab credit diamonds. So
Adam Curry: that's my point. Is all of these things are tricks,
and, you know, to get you to consume, but ultimately, to
control you, to control how you spend your money, how you think
about life and and to keep you going down the funnel, as
President George Bush said, after 911 please get out there
and shop
Moe Factz: and to keep you unhappy, that's the main goal.
Adam Curry: So you can do so you can make yourself happy with
purchases, right?
Moe Factz: Because you're trying to send me a guy that makes
$75,000 a year can't make you happy. Why is that? Especially
if you're making 150,000 you put those two together, that's a
nice living, I'd say, but no, they want to have it. And when I
say they, this is not specific to you saying the black women,
but this is Black women that went to, you know, these schools
and got around certain classes of women and there can go and
meet their mates, because they have these familiar
relationships, right? Oh, they don't understand. It's a lot of
arranged marriages going on when you get up to certain levels of
power. It's not just, oh, I met him in a coffee bar somewhere.
No, it's they've been going to the same country club for the
last six years. You know, put them in the same environment.
You know, you have the same thing in saying the blue light
as well with Jack and Jill and these things where, you know,
that's why you don't really hear that from, like, the real
Boulet, because they have this infrastructure set up where
their kids can meet each other and and getting in and, you
know, date and end up marrying. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's like, it's debutante, all that kind of
stuff. Yeah,
Moe Factz: yeah. So, so, yeah, this is, this is, this is what
you hear on the radio. And this is and then to say, Oh yeah, I'm
going to get me a white man. Could you imagine if a black man
would have said that on the radio? Oh yeah, I'm gonna get me
a white woman. Can
Adam Curry: you imagine if a white man said, I mean, you want
me a black woman?
Moe Factz: Oh yeah, you know what you you popping on Black
Twitter
Unknown: right now? That's right.
Moe Factz: Like, what summer you say? Like, hey, that was a real
thing too. Um, yeah, but that's the thing. It's like, no, no,
no, no, no, you can't, you can't say, you can't say any of that.
Um, you
Adam Curry: know what's, what's interesting. And since we're
just, since it's you and me talking as we do, right? It
would probably be even, I'm gonna see this. May sound weird
and come out wrong, but for sure, I know that I have never
been attracted to black women. I can see black women as
beautiful, as stunning, as you know, as fascinating, all of the
above. But I, you know, for me, it's like, no, I and I think
probably I'm guessing that you who could never imagine yourself
with a with a white woman, no, and that needs to be said
sometimes, and it's not racist, it's not racist, it's
Moe Factz: just he said, Hey, red birds like red bird. Blue
birds like blue and if a red bird likes a bluebird, that's
fine, but my issue with it is that they're pushing it as the
solution. We heard Joe Biden say that, Oh, what gives me hope is
seeing all the mixed couples on commercials. Yeah, that's the
replacement theory.
Adam Curry: Did he say that? I didn't even, I'd never even saw
that. We covered it
Moe Factz: on the show. There's been so many shows, but yeah, he
said that my mind is mush, yeah. When he was on talking to the
quote, unquote, civil rights leaders, it was like, what gives
him hope? He's like, when I watch TV, I see the all the
mixed race couples on television gives me hope,
Adam Curry: which is like, yeah, which is actually so pathetic,
because this escapes no one. I know that you'd probably
watching commercial saying, Wow, a lot of a lot of black folk in
the commercials. We're looking at the commercials, going, wow.
A lot a lot of mixed couples in these, all these commercials,
you know, that doesn't seem to represent true reality.
Moe Factz: No, they're trying to make reality. Yes, yes, yes,
Adam Curry: and that. And of course, neither you or I are
against that, but it's, it's it's trying to shape something,
and then you have these two who are playing right into it,
playing along all part of the system. Oh,
Moe Factz: and but best believe that doesn't go both ways,
because what she's saying she's gonna pull her brony. What she's
talking about is LeBron James son took a white woman, a white
girl, to call that pulling a brawny Yeah? Well, that's what
they called it now, I guess. But it was out, oh, how dare he, you
know? Saying, What? No. How you know? That kind of thing,
Adam Curry: even though it's in all the commercials, and that's
really encouraging. And no, we're not supposed to do that.
It can't
Moe Factz: go the other way. No, black man can't go out. Oh, I
got you. Yeah. And the funny thing was, Dwayne Wade's
transitioning son to a daughter. Zia had a white girl is
transitioning to a boy, and they were, like, coupled up. Nobody
said word, nobody said a peep about it. Of course not, and I
even made a tweet about it. But yeah, I mean, that's that's the
that's where we're at with it. It's like, no black men can't
have any choices. And that's one thing I want to click clear
about Kevin Samuels, he was for black families. But he said,
before Black men take a bad deal, look, any man takes a bad
deal, consider all your options. And he got blow back from that.
So I guess we can go and jump into I think we stopped at
three. Let's go ahead and jump to five, because I just want to
hear this one one clip in here about how just go ahead. Go
ahead. Black
Unknown: women. We like our men. We love our men. I love my
husband. He black as it is, all fear, my black brothers, my
black Daddy, my black boys I'm raising. And so don't lose hope
in our black men, sis, because if we don't keep the hope that
no one else will, don't lose the whole
and I do want to say, I appreciate the black men that
are out there really standing up for black women, really saying
how much they love and appreciate because there are a
lot of black men out there like that. But unfortunately, you
know, the voice comes through of those that are that are doing
the opposite, you know, and it is hurtful when you go to march
for and battle for and do all this for the for for your black,
for the black man, and then they're turning around and
degrading, raping, taking advantage of beating and
robbing, because I've been seeing a lot of black men lately
that just don't even care, and they're run up season. It's run
up they're robbing black women. And I remember when I was
younger, that was one thing where it was like women and
children to certain gangsters. It's like off limits, like
you're not gangsta if you doing this to
the game of the the rules to the game have been completely
abolished on Sundays, not at the grandma house. Like the whole
rule book for gangsters is thrown away.
Girl, ever since they started carrying purses.
Adam Curry: No, there it is. There it is. Wow.
Moe Factz: Let it soak in.
Adam Curry: This is yet we celebrate gangster when they're
dead. So we can use them for black lives matter.
Moe Factz: They celebrate gangster the next song plays on
the radio. What are you talking about at the same time, while
you're advertising, you're saying that when they start
wearing purses, but you just said how great LGBT month was
for Macy's. It's
Adam Curry: so, so twisted.
Unknown: It's like,
Moe Factz: huh, these are same people say, Oh, you need to get
on the side with the LGBT and hold the door for them. This is
the same thinking
Adam Curry: as I'm as I'm listening to this I'm thinking
poor Will Smith, that brother is locked into this shit 24 hours a
day. No wonder he says, I gotta stand up for my wife and family.
I have to do something you
Moe Factz: better, yeah, like said, she got the teak. Now you
hear the conditioning, and you can never be good enough. This
proves it. And it's like I said, this ain't not talking about
most of sisters out there. This is that ruling elite. This. Now
you're hearing the crown Bill 2.0 talk slip in here, yeah, of
course, robbing us and they're raping us, and I want, I'm got
to show you they're robbing us and raping us
Adam Curry: and putting our money in their purse,
Moe Factz: right? But, wow. Support. George Floyd, yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly
Moe Factz: you. See you it's, it's the day who literally, who
literally
Adam Curry: held a gun to his to a pregnant woman, but we
Moe Factz: can use him to get money from all these big
corporations. So, hey, Macy's, yeah, just like, I mean all
these companies writing these checks you're saying, Tell
Adam Curry: me again. Tell me again. The entrepreneurs, tell
me again. These two women I got, this is my hit list.
Moe Factz: This is uh, Eva Marcel and L'Oreal. L'Oreal,
yes, okay, put so now I'm just Yeah, yeah. This is Black radio
at its finest. And black radio is not for men. I don't think we
listen to black. I don't think black. Me and listen to the
radio, to be honest with you, so you can't pin on us all the
debauchery that go on the radio, you know, saying that you know
children they're exposed to, and they wonder why, you know
they're wearing purses or whatnot, that that's the damned
thing to me. She's like, Oh, you're gonna blame it on the
purses, but then you just sit here. I digress. Now this,
Adam Curry: this was the Ricky smiley show. No, this
Moe Factz: is their podcast by this is the undressing room,
okay. Oh, okay. This is a specific podcast for them, but
they bring two powerhouse syndicated radio personalities
together, and this is what Macy's is, is, uh, funding. Now,
imagine if Masons were funding anything close to this on the
other side of the spectrum, oh, they would be canceled. They
would
Adam Curry: be Chick fil A. It's, it's Chick fil A. There
you go. That's it, right?
Moe Factz: So now we're moving this is uh, Wheezy from the
horrible spell, actually, like horrible um, podcast, uh, with
her and Mandy B but this is her talking to Adam 22 for no
jumper. He's going to invoke the name Kevin Samuels because he
know I the blue because he knows she's going to set her off, and
then listen to her get triggered. I really
Unknown: enjoyed the Kevin Samuels interview we did, but I
just can't listen to another evaluation of another woman's
dating situation, like Kevin Samuels
on Yeah, and I think he's a terrible person. Okay, we
can talk about that, but I just have a lot of friends who, like,
watch a shit over and over, and I'm like, Bro at a certain
point, though, you feel like you've just learned enough
about, like, unhappy women who are, like, having a hard time
dating. It's
not like the clips at first to me, like they were jarring to
see. But like, building a brand on shitting on black girls,
like, I
don't like that. You really think that's what it is, though,
100%
I think some of the advice has been, I would say, conducive,
but like, for the most part, like, no, your most viral and
salacious shit is really talking about women badly, like, I don't
like that. Like, don't
you think that? Like the women that he's shitting on like they
deserve it, no, really, no, I don't. I think, like the point
that I was so easily able to call from the Kevin Sanders
thing was just like, these women are being raised to not
understand what the fuck is going on. Like, they just really
telling
girls they're fat, looking like a linebacker, shit like that.
Like, that's fucking nuts. The women
that he says that to are the women who think that they're
gonna get some like, I've seen these women are like, 300
pounds, saying that they deserve a guy who's making, you know,
million dollars a year and shit. And it's like, and now we have
Kevin Samuels to let them know, and I think that he's actually
doing important
work. I can't wait for Dr Umar to get his ass. I really hope
they get him.
But Dr Umar is living in a fantasy world. Kevin talks about
real shit. How is Dr Umar in a fantasy because he kind of
relies on these, like, fake arguments too. Of being like,
you say mean things to black women, it's not really about
No, Dr Umar is like, way deep. Mind you, he's super homophobic,
and I can't even believe I'd be sticking up for him like this.
But like, I have really seen Dr Umar for the good in what he's
taught people about blackness, that I fuck with him for it, I
think, like when I'm making the DR Omar Kevin Samuels joke, I
really just want someone to see Kevin Samuels, like, I want to
see someone really tell him about himself, because I think
he needs that. I'm not that person to do that. You're not
that person to do that. But Dr Umar, I think it really tear his
ass the fuck up.
Adam Curry: Doctor. Who? Umar
Moe Factz: Johnson, ah, we need. We need a black man to attack
another black man. Is what we need. It's not your job, Adam as
a white man, not you, but Adam 22 Yeah, and it's not my job as
a think she's a mixed woman, uh, to take on Kevin Samuels, we
need a black man on a black man violence. That's what we need.
Yeah, yeah. Sam is all straightened out. Yeah, this is,
this is where we're at with it. And Adam knew he would trigger
her, yeah, very and he's like she even she said, Dr Umar, he's
homophobic, but I can look past his homophobia for my own. I'm
saying to use him, to weaponize him for my own good.
Adam Curry: This is so true. This is where
Moe Factz: we're this is where we're at. And you wonder why
there's a black manosphere, and you wonder why there's diversity
and thought and a separating of of the two and only one, say two
sexes, because it's not about on the on the personal level. This
is playing out on politics and economics.
Adam Curry: Well, unfortunately, they have the media.
Moe Factz: Do they think so?
Adam Curry: I think that what the mainstream? I don't, I
don't, I don't
Moe Factz: black women, the mainstream is crap now,
Adam Curry: oh, oh, no, don't get me wrong, because, of
course, I completely believe in the power of you know what we're
doing and other and even what Kevin Samuels was doing, but
it's we're still in a transitionary period. I mean
black radio is still very important. I mean Black Twitter
still has influence. It's
Moe Factz: very important because it gets to people for
free. But see, this is the thing about podcasts and YouTube lives
and videos and whatnot. People can access that for free as
well. So that kind of balances the the selling point for the
radio versus listening to podcasts or lives, because,
like, they're both free, they don't cost me anything, so I can
easily download a Kevin Samuels episode instead of listening to
the morning radio, right? And that's why I'll say it again.
We're kicking their ass. Now, it's not that we have somebody
as big as Joy Reid or Don Lemon, but when you factor up,
everybody is listening to a message that's counter theirs.
The number we we're saying we Eclipse them by saying, trust
me, because Kevin Samuel's pulling down 20, 30,000 people
in his lives every night. You think, Don lemon's doing that.
Honestly, I'm always telling you on the independent media.
Adam Curry: I mean, you really don't have to do that. I'm with
you. I'm with you, and I think I support the concept.
Moe Factz: No, I'm just saying that we gotta, we gotta, we
gotta remove that. Well, no looking point, because it's only
a talking point. They don't have anything on us, but we have
Adam Curry: to remove one other thing. We don't have to do it
for purposes of this conversation. Yeah, but one of
the many reasons that that, that we do this podcast together is
because we're men, and this is an attack on all men. So my
brother, my white brothers, and my Brown Brothers, and my red
ones and my yellow ones, this is also about us, and that's what's
important.
Moe Factz: It's about all of us. It's about family. It's about
women. It's about, okay, when we got one way where you can have a
man and woman living together with children, you're saying,
whether this mixed families like the Brady Bunch, or you're
saying, or just a normal nuclear family you're saying, from the
two parents, but you need family. We're at the we're past
the point of this. Do you not see the price of things? See
this? I have this weird and I said this on ground America a
long time ago, all this weird stuff that they're pushing, I
don't think is to highlight the weird stuff when I mean by
weird, like all the different genders and all this stuff that
they're pushing. I think it's the galvanize the people that I
think they want to procreate, to procreate.
Adam Curry: So your concept would be, we want these people
to procreate, and so now with the economy, is going to be
necessary for people to be together. You damn right.
Moe Factz: You rather have a roommate or a wife you're gonna
live with somebody? Yeah. I mean, we're past the point of
living on our own, so they're like, Okay, well,
Adam Curry: all three of our girls living with somebody not
married, and then actually very happy, because all their rents
went up 30%
Moe Factz: right? So, and what the men are looking at is like,
hold on, we're living together, and I'm obligated to protect
you. And, you know, saying, you know, I help feed you and close,
it's going very not caveman, and the aspect of like me came in,
but in the aspect of protecting, providing those very base,
principles, a relationship between a man and a woman. We're
getting to that point, it's going to be soon, where you're
going to have one car, yeah? Like two cars is going to be a
luxury, yep. So I think by having shows like this and
discussion like this, we're helping where people can seek
first to understand and to be understood, to make more
families and marriages, and they're saying in homes and that
kind of thing, because America reward mean, don't get it. Don't
be confused. They're confused. America rewards nuclear
families. America rewards having children in the right way. Look
at your taxes. Y'all are married, good, yes, yes, because
they know that's good for society. But they've got to the
point now that, yeah, we got to weave some of these people out,
and I think they're doing it in a very disgusting way. I don't
agree with it all, but I think who we think are in charge or
not in charge, I think is a very pro, pro family movement, pro,
uh, nuclear family movement at this I think it's just steering
the wheel right now. That's just, that's just my okay
perception of it, because it doesn't make any other sense.
You. You're galvanizing people to have kids.
Adam Curry: Well, just look at the commercials and tell me what
you see. That's, that's, that's what the desire is for you to be
Moe Factz: I think that's the troll the people that they want
to have kids, to even have more kids, and to buy guns and to be
resourceful. You know, it's like, it's that, it's that
thing. It's like, we're gonna get, I hate to be labeled a
point, but I just want to give example. I think they look at
like this, and this is very cold. And I want to make sure
people understand that I am putting my lizard hat on when
I'm saying this to my lizard thinking cap. They're saying, if
you're dumb enough to cut your kid's penis off. We don't want
any more you around, so do us a favor and cut his penis off.
That's the last generation we got to worry about those
genetics. But they frame it in a way. It's like, oh, we celebrate
this. No, they're celebrating it to get rid of Yeah, so that's
why I think they're come they when they it's a gas and the
brakes to this is that we need more productive people and we
need less non productive people. And I think this is the gauntlet
and the thresher that they're putting people through. That if
you get caught up in the gender war, you ain't meant to go into
the next
Adam Curry: you're being eliminated. Yes, wow,
Moe Factz: that's why I feel the obligation to make people aware
it's not to get into the records of the gender war. No, that's
Adam Curry: real cynical, but I can't disagree with it,
Moe Factz: because look at it like, look at these families
now. I mean, like the fan, like, real, like, the conservative
families, they're having 4568, kids, yeah? Cuz they're like,
Oh, we're gonna need each other, you know, that kind of thing.
And, like, the power to be like, well done. You're gonna raise
productive society, and we're gonna eliminate what they call
useless eaters. And I find that to be very sad. Yeah, then, and
of course, very It makes me sad. There's a
Adam Curry: lot of lot of young couples who who have been
programmed to not want to have children have dogs instead. And
Moe Factz: that goes into it, that if you buy into that,
that's not the kind of person that we want to take forward.
Wow. Okay,
Adam Curry: I'd never really considered it that way, but
that's, that's, that's worth a lot of consideration. It's like,
we weed them out by making it very apparent who we don't want,
yeah,
Moe Factz: because they couldn't stop you, right? It's kind of
like they couldn't stop women for smoking cigarettes, right?
So it's like, oh, let's give them to them and tell them
they're great things, and they'll smoke it. It's the same.
It's the same. So that's
Adam Curry: a that's a call out to the LGBTQ, plus, be careful.
Moe Factz: Be careful anything they're accelerating. The same
way I look at like I said, with all of this, I'm very skeptical
about all these people, but I guess what we can do now is I
had the clip of him calling the woman and running back, but I
don't want to really get into that. I want to go more into how
she tried to frame him is worse than
Adam Curry: his white counterpart. So that's what? 27
Yeah, well, I
Unknown: just mean the viral clips of like, you know, you
calling girls ugly, like they're always and
believe me, he takes it way too far. He says the rudest, most
fucked up shit I could ever think of. And he knows that he's
doing that, and he's gonna get extra media attention from his
audience for like, but see Howard
Stern, a Charlemagne, people like that that can make those
moments happen without being that disgusting. That's talent.
What Kevin Samuels is doing is just like me, you the way that
you can bring out things to people and either get them a
little riled up or angry or whatever. Like, that's not you
really, really shitting on someone for this fucking moment,
that kind of shit I don't really like.
Like, I would never want to be in the position of having to do
the kind of content that Kevin Samuels does and but actually,
that's why I think it's almost kind of like brave because
Charlemagne, like, would never speak to a woman on his show
that way. Granted, he doesn't interview just like random ass
women who have nothing going for him, but I feel like he has too
much of a career. He knows that his his career would probably
The point, though, I think, is just to be real. Just be honest.
He doesn't need to do that. Don't you think we're in a
society that really disincentivizes being honest?
Is honesty calling someone a linebacker.
I mean, if she's the size of a linebacker, then
I just, I feel bad, bro, like
nobody would ever get on a woman's ass for saying the same
thing to a fat man, basically, is what I would say about
Moe Factz: that. All right, bump it. We're gonna go play the he
said, running back. Let's just go ahead and get let's get into
26 and then we can talk about a little bit the. Not too long,
because I want to get Pete keep it fresh in people's mind what
she said about Howard Stern. I got a clip of Howard Stern being
Howard Stern, but you're getting the 26 okay, you weighed
Unknown: more than a man at your height, true or false.
A lot of chubby Dukes. So, no, but, but,
okay, how much do you weigh? 220, I weigh 210, and I'm six
foot four. You broke the first rule. See, you ladies, don't
mind breaking the rules. The men are visual. The men want women
into a fit, feminine, friendly, cooperative, submissive. I don't
mind being the size of I'm sorry. You're five foot eight.
You about the size of Emmitt Smith of Barry Sanders world,
your running back size. Okay, you can hit the a gap like a
motherfucker. All right, so don't come in here. Talk about
what men should not be able to do when they gotta accept, uh,
somebody who can run out the power i
Oh, good. I mean,
I'm being silly. I'm being silly because I'm being silly because,
to make a point that modern women are so full of righteous
indignation what you are and ain't gonna accept and all this
other kind of stuff when you're not even what most men want.
No, and I'm working on that. You said I'm 23 you said that I can
I have until like 25 there's no
reason to be 23 and 220 pounds. Man, you ain't had no babies.
There's absolutely no reason to justify unless it's something,
unless it's glandular that you got a doctor's note for. There's
absolutely no reason.
Okay, I'll give you that. I give you all right then, but
Adam Curry: yeah, although he's he's harsh, but sometimes it's
hard to hear,
Moe Factz: but you don't stay here. And every one of these
women call him, and I'm not taking up Kevin, because, hey,
he don't need to be taken up for he can handle himself, but, but
the thing is, is that Listen, go ahead, well, but
Adam Curry: what I'm hearing, and of course, I've not watched
a lot of Kevin Samuels, I'm not almost in none of his
demographics, except for man, and I wish I'd watched a little
bit more. Um, what he's really doing is, is counter,
counteracting one of the biggest Jedi mind tricks of our age,
which is the positive body image, which has just been taken
to a degree that is way too far. Because if he's going against
everything that society has been, you know, you can't body
he's body shaming. That that would be what it's called. He's,
he was body shaming and but the it's like, it's like, when
artists do art for the no agenda show, they they send in the art,
and they know they're going to be critiqued when it doesn't
win, and it's no good. But it's important for people to hear
that sometimes.
Moe Factz: And the thing is, these are, let me be clear about
who's calling him, yeah, women that are trying to convince him
that they deserve top 10% men. It's like I said, it's not his
thing is, won't you go find somebody on your level, which if
a man, if, if a man was told that, like, a guy was like,
Okay, give you perfect example with Lizzo. She curbs guys all
the time. They're interested in her. Well, if a guy said they're
not interested in her, then, oh, it's the it's a crime. Yeah, how
long? Why would you date Lizzo? And it's like, she wants to get
with whatever. What's the deal, Magic Mike, or whatever his name
is? Like, you want to get one of the top Hollywood guys. It's but
it's a regular guy that was fit and try to see, oh, you're just
a regular guy. How dare I it's like, this double standard is in
this people are tired of playing the game of, I'm not going to
play this game with you anymore, and that's why. And I wanted to
play these two clips back to back, because you could hear,
even he said, I'm being silly. She's kind of, like chuckling,
like she knows, kind of, I get it. You're saying, okay, and,
like I said, he used cuss words, whatever. But now I want to
compare that, because Weezy from the horrible podcast says, uh,
Howard Stern would never talk to people like that. Oh yeah, this
is Howard Stern talk about Wendy Williams con. Wait, wait, stop,
stop, stop. I gotta take the kids out the room. But please,
he's gonna get
Unknown: ugly con you hired me fuck off cunt.
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness, by the way, Howard Stern when he
left public airwaves, that's what ruined him, because he had
this not. Natural force that was called the FCC. You know, he was
against the man, but he always had to stay within certain
guidelines. And once they could say any curse word they wanted,
I feel the show went downhill,
Moe Factz: right? You got, you got to have, got to have
something you dip, dodging and diving, like YouTube. You got,
you got to have some, really, it's nothing but the FCC. That's
all it is. It's like, how far can I push it? You talk about
this, a lot about being canceled in the cancel game and that kind
of thing, right?
Adam Curry: But, but some of that is just unnecessary. You
know, it's like, we don't do that. We're not continuously now
we are. We're able to play it because we're on a podcast. But
to me, it just shows poor communication. Anyway. Doesn't
matter.
Unknown: The last time I had any here, she was giving me some
goddamn attitude with this Hollywood crap. Yeah, I'm a real
Hollywood insider. You should see the wildlife I'm living. You
got those big fake tits and I'm Hollywood, huh? Shut the fuck
up.
Cunt.
Oh, he kisses everyone. I'm busy. I'm not kissing your ass
now. Cunt, face. Fuck off. The fucks wrong with her broad
doesn't have an original thought in a goddamn head, busy being
Howard Stern, and now to now she's got now. You mean, because
I've had success, I'm Hollywood, well, because I know Jimmy
Kimmel, that's real Hollywood. Who am I hanging out with? She
doesn't know even who I'm hanging out with. She doesn't
know what I do with my life. She doesn't know who I go who I hang
with. You worry about your husband, not me.
Fuck off. Sick of her, her bullshit show
who started like me being of the people. Oh,
she's of the people with the fake tits
and the bullshit and the Botox
but at some point you sat behind that microphone for too long,
and now you are the people. And for somebody, yeah, I'm
the people. I've just had this charmed life, you cow, frog face
bitch, shut the fuck up.
Adam Curry: Oh man,
Unknown: I'm just sick of her.
Adam Curry: This says a lot about Howard goodness. Thank
you. My goodness. Now
Moe Factz: I have never seen Kevin Samuels or anybody talking
Adam Curry: to a woman or about a woman like that, especially a
black woman, a
Moe Factz: white man talking about a black woman like that.
Are you kidding me? Well, guess what? No, nobody said anything.
Because now we got a I got the response from the Breakfast
Club, and this is about Howard Stern apologizes. Well,
Unknown: if you guys remember Wendy Williams and Howard Stern
used to have a great relationship, but then they had
a falling out, all because Wendy Williams is talking about Howard
Stern's book coming out, and said this on her show, Howard,
is so Hollywood right now, that everything that you say is so
predictable. Every story is going to be about, you know? Oh,
I love this one. And then we went on their yacht, and he's a
Hollywood insider now, which sucks, because you started like
me, being of the people, but at some point you sat behind that
microphone for too long, and now you are the people. Yeah, that's
whack. If we're supposed to be friends, if we're supposed to be
cool, and you feel that way, come to me first. Don't just say
it on your show, and then don't expect me to clap back, because
I'm gonna clap back. Well,
Howard Stern was triggered, and here's what he had to see on his
show because it was brought to his attention. And then he
talked about it for like, 40 minutes.
What a what up you? You got those big fake and I'm
Hollywood, huh? Shut the up. Worry about your husband. Not me
sick of her or show. I'll bet 20 bucks she pees standing up, gets
stuck in his RuPaul before I watch Ru Paul's drag race, she
makes Paul look like Margot Robbie, I don't
see nothing wrong with that. You clap at me. I'm gonna clap back.
And he just went a little fall 40 minutes. He did it for like
three hours.
Well, Howard Stern has apologized. You know, he's said
that he does apologize and is expressing love for her and all
of that at the Hollywood on the Hollywood Reporter, he
apologized on Hollywood Reporter, he apologized article
there,
Adam Curry: yeah, you know, why even Howard gets the call, even
Howard gets the calls,
Moe Factz: but even they know to stay in their place, because
Howard can make calls too
Unknown: true.
Moe Factz: So they were, oh, I can see, oh, you know, I could
see it happening. Uh, I don't see no problem with what. This
is my point. This is my point right here, that they're all
bought off. This whole media is bought off. It's not about any
principle to it. It's not about all you know. But. Texting our
women or the image of our women. None of that is that Howard
Stern could talk about Wendy wins all he want to, and they
will not step out of line to say anything about Howard Stern,
because he know he can have every one of their jobs anytime
he wants to. He
Adam Curry: he still has legit power. He is very Hollywood.
There's no doubt about it, right?
Moe Factz: He could call it a hot night seven, or whatever it
is, Breakfast Club. Like, hey, you know that him. I want him
gone by the end of the day. Like, also, see, that's what
Bill Cosby was doing, yeah, so it's not that, like, it's not,
you're saying it wasn't. It can't be done on both sides, but
that's them bowing down to the powers that be. But then you say
Kevin Samuels, but you she brought up Howard Stern is all.
He doesn't do it like that, really.
Adam Curry: He sure did worse, much worse, much
Moe Factz: worse, to see when, yeah, that's the one you don't
Adam Curry: I ever use that ever, never.
Moe Factz: Every mother has told us this, the one you don't ever
use that's
Adam Curry: up there with, that's up there with n words,
man, this, like this, that's in your head, like that does not
slip out, yeah? That does not slip out.
Moe Factz: Yeah, yeah. And then the B word too, that one is also
also. So he just went, Hey, I'm just going to show you that the
double standard. So now I got the actual clip that blew Kevin
Samuels up. And this he you think of all the things he said,
telling a woman that you look average is best and you're gonna
die alone, is what blew him up to mega viral status. So I got
two clips from that. There's a whole video. You can go listen
to things saying the whole thing, but I just want to listen
to the two clips of the energy exchange between him and the
woman, average
Unknown: looking woman with a 13 year old son, with a sketchy
baby daddy. This gets worse every time I say something, and
now you're asking for a man who's in the top 10% of men. You
don't qualify for one, and you're making a man I don't I
don't want to have to go there. But when you put in all these
other factors, why can't you just get a man that's an average
guy?
Sometimes I feel like, in order to fully submit, I have to feel
like he's in well, then
you go, then you're gonna die alone. How about that? Let me
just cut to the chase, ma'am, you can feel like what you want
to, but women like you die alone straight up because you think
you're better than the men that you qualify for. And the only
reason, honestly, ma'am, that I can see a woman like yourself
really thinking you deserve more is because you earn more,
because you earn more money than most people around you in North
Carolina, if your ass worked at the post office, you would not
think so highly of your opportunities. And that's the
reality. We don't men. Don't care about your money, not the
kind of men that you want. We don't care about your money. It
ain't ours, and we care about the fact that you are older and
you got kid, and your average, yeah,
Moe Factz: average. That was the cuss word, the a word, the a
word, yeah, you say. Because what happened was, to be honest,
the manosphere specifically, more specific, the black
manosphere, use that as an insult, your average, at best,
and it was received as an insult. What I hear being said,
and this is why I want to do this, because this is, there's a
there's a point to all is what I'm talking about, and we're
going to hear in a little bit. But he said that you you look
down on the men that you qualify for, right? You look down on the
so what? He's being his avid advocate for men, and say,
What's wrong with you being with a quote, unquote, average man,
if you're average at best, he's averaged at best. Once you guys
get together, you're saying, Be average together. Do
Adam Curry: you think that that he was, that the reason he did
this was it could be either or, or, yeah, it could be both, to
try and guide women towards something, towards reality. But
was he also, at the same time helping men? Do you think he was
his pure intent was both because he just sounds like he's being
honest. He with.
Moe Factz: Mean, the whole thing is that he taught the men like
this. And worse, see, his channel originally was talking
to me, man, right, yes, like, Hey, you don't make enough
money. You're saying you're a bum, you know, saying it would
tell them to, like that. Like, look, you're X amount of years
old, and you only make this you how you gonna have a family. How
you going to take care of women, that kind of thing? It's only
when he turned honesty the other way, and these women saw after
him, you know, like I said, every woman he talked to, they
called him or everything, or got on his, on his social media, in
some kind of way. But it's that thing of, why don't you just be
with somebody that will love you for you. You know, saying no,
that's that goes against the Disney programming. And people
think they I know your eyes might roll when I say Disney
programming, but when you've told young girls, they're
princesses, your princess, you're a princess, you're a
princess. Someday
Adam Curry: my prince will come, exactly then,
Moe Factz: 16 years old, you have the sweet 16. And then you
know all you know, spoil spool. Spoil spool. Spoil spool, spool.
The reality is not there. It's just just not there. It's
because it's not in our society, because every girl, Cinderella,
was only one person in the whole story, but every woman thinks
they're Cinderella or some kind of princely Prince. And please
and
Adam Curry: please note, Cinderella had three, quote,
ugly stepsisters. Exactly. They literally were ugly. They were
called ugly stepsisters, weren't they in the in the fairy tale, I
think they were. They used the U word, right?
Moe Factz: So I'm just saying that, but in the story,
everybody identifies this Cinderella, of course, and
there's going to be a prince there. And of course, there is a
prince for you, but he might not make six figures, he might not
be over six feet tall. He was saying he might not have a full
head of hair, but that guy's gonna love you like you're
saying like, like the queen that you are, but you can't come into
it wanting to be worshiped, either. And I think that's the
real flaw, or fault in the cohabitation, in the in the
getting along with men and women, is this, these, these
crazy expectations. And I know I'm going along, but I just want
to make this one point. I think a lot of this plays into
internet dating, because it makes you think that you have,
what, 989, billion people in the world, that you have, like, 4
billion options, so everybody's waiting out, like, you know,
there's a deal out there for me, they can work with my budget.
And it's like, doesn't work that
Adam Curry: way. There is no there's no doubt that online
dating has changed the game to an enormous degree. Some of it's
very successful. But I would say the way the most of these apps
are set up. It's not really meant for it doesn't seem like
it's going to be have a high ratio of success.
Moe Factz: And you use the word game, and that's what it's
turning says, swipe left, swipe right. It's the game. And I'm
not I mean, what I'm just saying is, before pre internet, you had
to meet somebody at the church, yep, or at school.
Adam Curry: Well, so we don't, we don't have all these visual
cues anymore, body language pheromones, you know, all the,
all these things that that that make the the mating slash dating
game. So, so natural. I remember when I was recently single nine
years eight, nine years ago, my daughter came out to kick my
ass, and he said, Okay, you were going to put you on on Tinder.
I'm like, oh brother. And she's no no and and she made my
profile, and she chose a picture with me, with other women in the
in the picture, you know, it's like, no, no, this works. And
she had this, the whole thing was gamified. And, of course,
the the results were predictable. It was it was
incredibly disastrous one day. It's like, okay, Tinder is not
for me, but it was gamified. It was gamified and it was not
really intended for any type of relationship.
Moe Factz: And when you gamify things, it's going to be
winners, and there's going to be losers, yeah, for sure. And I
just don't think that's a necessary. I think there's a win
win here for it to be had. But that's, that's, that's it for,
you know, for that block of it. And as you see, the die alone
thing that was a real, that was a real. Tell, tell us pill to
swallow, but we'll talk about it more. But we all think some more
people, I like
Unknown: brand new money. I just, I don't want any money
around me is not I'd almost rather have a new one. One than
a brand, than an old 20. Now, that's kind of dumb and but
there's something new money that excites you. You like $100
bills? Oh, yeah,
I like old money too. Oh, most
beautiful thing on earth is $100 bill. I seen a woman as good
looking as $100 bill. There's something about $100 bill that
excites you. We
Adam Curry: like new money too. We like receiving new money. We
like the new money that is the Bitcoin in the Satoshis, which
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Moe Factz: a lot. Yes, 43 Yeah,
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sorry, yes, Adrian combined, yeah, he's a multi donator. So
my mistake, my
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Moe Factz: All right, so now we get to the final portion of this
show, and the whole reason I did this show.
Adam Curry: Well, good, well, good, we're ready. Want to
Moe Factz: see people die alone, trust me and and for all you
hate, love Kevin Samuel, hate him. You're saying whatever he
makes a valid point. This life is not to be meant to live, live
alone, and it's definitely not meant to die alone. So I have
this dating coach, this basically saying the same thing
he's saying. This is Logan Yuri, and she's on, I think, with a
CBS in the morning, and she's going to talk about, basically
how not to die alone. According
Unknown: to the dating app hinge, 75% of their users are
looking for and ready for a relationship. There's a new
book. It's called How to not die alone. The surprising science
that will help you find love that applies concepts from
behavioral science to dating. It's written by Logan Urie.
She's a behavioral scientist and the director of relationship
science at hinge. Yes, it is a science. Apparently, that's
Lesson number one. The book is terrific. I love it. I actually
want to give a copy to a friend who I think is dating the wrong
person. You'll tell me, if that's rude, if you say the
name right now, you'll just address
the I think the foundational premise is really interesting,
which is that love is not just a thing, or a winning relationship
is not something that just happens by luck. You have to
work for it, and you show people how. Yes, exactly.
So love is natural. We're born knowing how to love, but we are
not born knowing how to date. Dating is a skill, and you can
get better at it, and I will teach you how to do that. Okay,
well, I
Moe Factz: love that. She has vocal fry. So dating is a skill
which I have no clue how to date because I didn't really date,
um,
Adam Curry: what happened was this, was this a shotgun
wedding? What happened there? Mo, no, I
Moe Factz: just met her on the Fourth of July, and we just kind
of hung out.
Adam Curry: Oh, I love that. Fourth of July meetings are the
best. That's the best. That's random too. Kissing under the
fireworks.
Moe Factz: Actually, no, because I met her, I didn't get her
number. She didn't get my number, but our friends
exchanged numbers, so we had a second chance encounter due to
them exchanging numbers. Oh, how random is that? You know I'm
saying, and that's,
Adam Curry: well, I have
Moe Factz: that.
Adam Curry: I've learned. I've learned, when you open yourself
up, that's sometimes Hand of God brother,
Moe Factz: right? And, and I want everybody to have somebody,
because that's how life is meant to be. Maybe you want to be
alone, who knows? But my point is, increase your eyes, if
that's what you want to have. And you heard her say, it's
their behavioral science. They're playing with our whole
history in in of dealing with each other, and I mean that
between the woman and man, this behavioral scientists playing
with this right now, and I just want to get back to Logan. By
Adam Curry: the way, I'm sorry to interrupt. Do you know the
number one place where behavioral scientists work?
Where Silicon Valley?
Moe Factz: That should tell you everything you need to know.
That's all
Adam Curry: they do. That's they invented the likes they invented
everything, the profiling, it's all behavioral scientists.
Moe Factz: And that's why I say Naomi Wolf is not crazy. That's
why I say Kevin Samuels is not crazy. And they're onto
something. Maybe delivery method is not the best, or maybe not
the way we do things, to seek, first, to understand and be
understood. But at the end of the day, I think this, this life
is not meant to be lived alone. So let's go and get into 37
Unknown: and so part of getting better is first realizing what
kind of data you are. You say there are three types. What are
they?
I love the tendencies, yes. So I worked with clients around the
world, they're all really different, but I was like,
there's something they all have in common, and it was
unrealistic expectations. And so I categorized them into the
three types. So the first type is the romanticizer. They love
love. They're waiting for the soulmate, the meet cute, and
they expect love to look a certain way. If it feels like
work, you're doing it wrong.
That's me. That's you. Okay? Yes. Hello. My name is Gail. Go
ahead. We
should talk about it. The second type is the Maximizer. I get a
lot of clients like this. They have unrealistic expectations of
their partner. They think I like her, but could she be 5% hotter,
5% more ambitious? They're just always trying to find the next
best thing. And then the third type, which I've seen a lot of
during the pandemic, is the hesitate or and they have
unrealistic expectations of themselves. They're just saying,
I'll date when I lose 10 pounds, I'll date when I have a new job.
It's always I'm not ready to date yet. They think they have
to be 100% ready before they put themselves out there.
And there never is a good time you say. But yeah, so
Moe Factz: these are different kind of daters, and that you
heard one of them being the one with the unrealistic
expectations in their mate. Once again, Kevin was the godfather.
Was right. I mean, but it's
Adam Curry: he, but he wasn't a white woman,
Moe Factz: and he wouldn't say it politically correct, and we
got to stop doing that, expecting somebody to deliver a
message, because I'm guilty of it. You know, I might be
sensational sometimes, just to get your attention, and then,
and then, you know, fill it out, saying with more details. But
that's what we have to do when we're battling mainstream media.
I mean, that's what people don't understand. It's like, no
kidding. We're doing a job here, folks. I mean, we're battling
for space in the media, especially independent media, so
we had to stand out. But at the same time, you want to be
entertained and informed, and it's and it's a tough job. Um,
we don't have the benefit of being brought on a huge, multi
billion dollar channel and giving, you know, you know, the
opportunity to share our ideas. So let's go ahead and get into
Part Three.
Unknown: I want to tick off some things. Let's do it. Social
media leads to compare and despair. Prince Charming has
morning breath number one doesn't exist. So look for
someone named Larry. Never did that before. Sit next to, rather
than across from, your date, and look for a life partner, not a
prom date. What do you mean? Yeah. So
who's a prom date, right? There's someone who looks good
in photos. You want to dance the night away with them. Maybe you
want to have a little kiss or more at the end of the night.
But you don't think, well, this person pick up my kids from the
dentist, and so it's fine to look for a prom date that's
going to be light and fun, but when you're looking for the
person you want to spend your life with, your criteria have to
change. You say
great relationships are built, not discovered. What does that
mean?
So many people I work with, they feel like when they meet the
perfect person, it will just feel right. Right? People say
this thing, I know it when I see it. Well, actually,
relationships are built, and so that's very empowering, because
then you can think, I'll meet someone great and build this
great relationship with them. It's not about it feeling
perfect from the beginning. When
it comes to fairy tales and romantic comedy, it always
starts with The Spark. There was a spark between us. You. Say
that the spark is one of the most harmful ideas to dating.
Why So Nate,
I've been looking for The Spark. I read this book. I'm doing
everything wrong.
I mean, I love the spark too, but this is what was happening.
I had this one client in particular. He would go out on
dates, and he would say, I met this guy. He was great. We had a
really fun date. I'm never gonna see him again. I would say, What
are you talking about? Sounds like such a good date. He'd say,
Oh, I just didn't feel the spark.
Moe Factz: It's interesting to guys. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I was looking at her website, and it starts off with
a quiz with all of these questions. It's like, Do you
need a profile? Yeah? Oh yeah, no, they're totally building a
profile. That's interesting. That's interesting.
Moe Factz: So I guess this last clip, I just find it interesting
that Gail admitted this on live television. But this just shows
you, maybe, how needy Gayle is for a mate,
Unknown: and that's why I say it's become such this, such a
harmful idea in dating. And there's three main myths of The
Spark. So the first one is that if you don't have the spark,
it'll never grow. And that's just not true, right? People
marry someone from work, someone from their office, someone from
the building, right? The spark can grow over time. That's
why you say going second date. So yes, doesn't seem right for
the first one. Yeah, the
first day, people are nervous. Some people just don't shine on
it. I'm reminded
the old Hair Club for Men saying you apply your own lessons. Yes.
How's that going? It's
going great. And my husband gave me full permission to talk about
there
was no spark with your husband. You know, I said it was a slow
burn. A slow burn is someone where they're not shiny on the
first date. They're not necessarily the most charismatic
or knock you off your feet, but the more time to spend with
them, the more you like them. And so wouldn't you rather have
someone that gets better over time? It's honestly, our culture
is very extrovert heavy. It's also for introverts. Some people
just take time to warm up. But they're such good partners. You
tell a great story about how you got to Scott because your first
guy said, Could you wait out to here outside of the club so I
could go in and meet people. Don't come in with me. Logan, I
was holding on to the bumper of a cause linking continental
driving away. And I'm thinking, maybe that's
a true story. Gail, yes,
I was younger. I was younger. I was younger. He drove away, and
I'm left in the parking lot with all my neighbors looking down at
me, yeah.
Adam Curry: All right, Gail, we all know about you and Oprah
camping. All right, so
Moe Factz: I think that's a very insightful maybe that's where
some kind of the hate comes from with a gill must be, must be for
her to stay there on live television. Weird, weird
confession. You know, there's
Adam Curry: one, there's one other aspect of of modern life
and dating that I'm hearing at least from the millennial women,
the young women, and it was mentioned in this clip with the
way work has changed to remote work, Zoom work. The workplace
is not necessarily an option anymore for meeting somebody,
Moe Factz: and also me too.
Adam Curry: And me too is a huge you gotta
Moe Factz: think like, Hey, bro, I'm not trying to put my job on
the line. You know, good point.
Adam Curry: Good point. All, all things that have made this, this
environment very toxic for dating, for finding the mate,
Moe Factz: which I think is that desire, outcome. Yes, I'm with
you, and this is the tragedy. Uh, this next set of clips to go
to show you that dying alone, um, the fact that you think
everything you have, everything buttoned up in life and but life
comes at you fast. This is about a 55 year old unemployed woman
who was a very successful person. Uh, now faking a faking
normal.
Unknown: Now Our economics correspondent Paul Solman takes
a look at what has become the new normal for many members of
the aging middle class financial fragility. It's part of his
weekly series Making Sense, which airs Thursdays on the
NewsHour.
Everybody is pretending. And that's why you call the book
faking normal, right? Because there's a lot of pressure to
seem like you are doing well.
Elizabeth White is not doing terribly well, as she painfully
Chronicles in the book. She's just self published 55
unemployed and faking normal White's been on the edge of the
financial cliff for years, even though you'd never know it from
how she looks or the Washington DC townhouse she bought years
ago, one she couldn't even dream of renting today. But you
haven't been in a situation where you literally. Couldn't
afford whatever it is, the condo fee, or
Absolutely I have. I'm right now. Have to park outside
because I'm in a rears on the condo fee right now, and
she's refinanced to the hilt, taking in a border Well, you
haven't used food stamps, but I have. I've had to. It's been
quite a comeuppance for someone with her background.
Adam Curry: And this is a recent piece,
Moe Factz: maybe four or five years,
Adam Curry: okay. Well, it's only worse now than believe it's
pre covid. Yeah, this is pre covid, yeah. So pre inflation,
pre massive inflation, pre
Moe Factz: and massive inflation, pre covid. So we
can't put it off on. Oh, maybe this is a victim. No, this is a
victim of getting old and being alone, which I don't want for
anybody. So let's get into 41
Unknown: it's been quite a comeuppance for someone with her
background.
I have a bachelor's from Oberlin. I have Masters in
International Studies from John Hopkins. I have a Harvard MBA.
Worked at the World Bank. Came in through a program where they
recruited 5000 people. They took two Americans out of that 25 I
was one of the Americans, but
ultimately, White decided to leave the bank to start her own
business.
I had a chain of stores, of decorative Home Stores, really,
yes, I sold some of the things you see here, African inspired
products. I realized that there was an African American market
that wanted things in their home that reflected heritage and
culture. If you wanted to give your little girl black Ragnar.
You couldn't easily find it, so I just curated that from all
over. So I then bet the ranch that I could get this going. So
I took a lot of my, not all of it, but I took a big chunk of my
world bank money to sort of fund this retirement savings savings,
but it wasn't going was doing well, but I couldn't see my
vendors, of artists and producers were not going to be
able to blow this out into a national chain we're already
struggling with volume. Did you sell your stores? No, closed it
in the end, just didn't. Oh,
Adam Curry: that's too bad.
Moe Factz: 55 unemployed better herself. And it's like I said,
this is one of the things I'm facing myself. I'm betting on
myself, but this is one of the things why Kevin Shane was so
inspirational to a lot of he was 5554 reinventing himself over
and over again, even with his channel, with his content, and
he, I'm saying, he was able to reach success, and I mean
monetarily, but even He died alone,
Adam Curry: yeah,
Moe Factz: you see what I'm saying? Like, I this is a real
issue that nobody's really talking about, because it's
going to become more and more likely that you're not going to
be able to live by yourself as you get older. That's going to
be even increased even more. I'm hoping, like, one of my kids,
like, you know, looking at like, which one you're going to take
in, take in? Take that in? You know, which one you gonna take
mom in?
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, oh yeah, no, I, I've heard all the
promises. Don't worry, I'll get your premium cable with high
speed internet. Uh huh, yeah, sure.
Moe Factz: This is where you better bet on your skills of
finding you a mate. Because you because kids are kids. I mean,
they got, they gonna grow up, have their own life and
everything, you know, yeah, and it's not really, it's not an
obligation. You would think they would take care of you, but I
think that's kind of how we got into this position that we're
in, that a lot of people just, oh, my kids will take care of
me. My kids are my retirement plan. And that's a real, that's
a
Adam Curry: sketchy,
Moe Factz: it's sketchy and it's a bit manipulative, because
totally, you shouldn't rely on your kids like that. So like no,
it's even
Adam Curry: better. We tell our girls we're an operation, spend
down. There'll be nothing left when we're dead,
Unknown: we're gonna spend it all issuance now
Adam Curry: we're spending it all. We got it all timed out. By
the time we're dead, there'll be nothing left.
Unknown: TV
Adam Curry: said, Well, here's my watch. You get that kid. Here
you go. If you can take it off my dead corpse,
Moe Factz: put this cautionary tale. Let's go ahead and get to
part three of this.
Unknown: But steady consulting work allowed white to maintain
an upper middle class lifestyle for a while, until the crash of
oh eight within
six months, I went from, you know, probably close to $200,000
right? It to zero,
and after that, the jobs of the past were nowhere to be found.
This
is to me, where the Age Discrimination piece. I find it
much harder at this phase of life to get hired than I did
earlier. They then ask you to fill out the application. That's
all algorithm driven. You cannot leave off when you graduated
from college. And once you put that date in there, then it's
they know. And as you get older, by
Adam Curry: the way, that used to be illegal, I'm sure it is.
But when I was running my company, we were publicly listed
at 700 employees. I ran the New York office, 125 and we had an
HR department. Of course, it is for Bowdoin. It is against the
law to ask someone how old they are. So for the algos to then
put in, you know, to force you to put in a date when you
graduated, is, in my opinion, illegal, based upon current
labor laws. So
Moe Factz: is, so is forced vaccination. But you see how
that went, so
Adam Curry: I'm just pointing it out, Mo whatever the hell
Moe Factz: they want to do, that's the point I'm trying to
make. Is like, yeah,
Unknown: they know now, as you get older, your network also is
not what it used to be, because they're losing their jobs,
they're losing their jobs, they are retiring. They're not
hearing about things, they're winding down. People have died
so white has been scraping by with scattered freelance gigs,
sort of bits and pieces that allow me to cobble together
income, but nowhere near the income of the best. No, no, not
even close, no. I mean again, I have years of, you know, under
30,000
Moe Factz: Yeah, went from working from the World Bank to
making under $30,000 a year, still as bright as ever. I mean,
knowledgeable, but we, really gotta look at this aging thing,
and I've seen it, like I said in corporate America, that they
phase people out. Oh,
Adam Curry: it's worse than that. If you look at Silicon
Valley, some of the, in my opinion, some of the best
software developers are the ones that have experience, who have
been around the block who have been you know, they're 50, 5060,
they are shunned. They're almost laughed out the door. Whereas
they're much better software developers, because they have
incredible experience with with stuff that you just can only
really learn from experience. You can't really learn this type
of stuff from a book, necessarily. And it's just, it's
shunned. It's and it's not even about money. It's not about
money. They're paying people 300 grand a year in Silicon Valley
for software developers. But you're old. No, you don't count.
They
Moe Factz: look at your cultural impact. Yep, you're saying being
maybe from a different generation, they look at two,
your cost to the health care, and then they look at, you know,
three, like I said, I mean, money is a factor. When you
factor all three things out, you get phased out. So it's like,
it's kind of the same thing they're trying to run from, or
being a mate. You're going to be evaluated, either going to be
evaluated by a mate? Are you going to be evaluated by a
corporate, a corporate, corporation, and like I said, I
just find this to be an alarming tale of Kevin Samuels being
right. I think he knew this is the end for a lot of people,
because it probably was a reality for him. Him being 50
something years old. I mean, maybe podcasting and live
streaming was his only option, or one of his few only options.
Now, he made the most of it. That's why I think it's, I mean,
it's, it's, a, you know, good story for him, but yet, and
still, he still died alone. And for people, and I'm saying this
for people my age, maybe younger, while you still looking
for somebody, go to a rest home, you know that that'll that'll
rearrange your priorities.
Adam Curry: Well, there's another thing I did that this
brings up, and this just says overall about society. And comes
back to the to the depopulation that we started the show with,
look at how the old folks were treated in the old folks homes.
I'm talking about Washington. State. I'm talking about New
York City. These were the first people to basically be killed.
Sure, die alone, and, yes, alone, that's right, even people
who weren't, who were just in the hospital. Doesn't matter, no
family, no nothing. But they were, you know, the majority of
people who died during covid or of covid or with covid were
older people. And I don't, and I think a lot of it was poorly
managed. So, yes, this is this overall disdain, you know, that
in some European countries, they're already talking and this
is part of a World Economic Forum program as well. It's
like, you know, when you get reach a certain age, you should
consider maybe, you know, there's some options available,
because, you know, you your use is no longer for this world.
Moe Factz: That's that calculation. And they're doing
it in an unforced way. I mean, went in a forced way, by saying,
Well, you know, you can die of loneliness, and that was one
thing nobody really talked about, from covid as well. When
you cut off from your grandkids, you cut off from your kids. You
know, maybe your spouse is no longer living, or you're living
alone, you kind of lose the will to live. But you seen it, like I
said, in Europe, these older people are die. They actually
die of loneliness, because nobody comes to check on them.
Nobody, you know calls nobody, none of that. So, I mean, this
is, and I don't hate that bum everybody out, but it the point
of this to say, I think Bobby Womack said it, find somebody
while you still can. That's the thing. Like, man, hey, life is
too short. Find you. Somebody is going to be good to you, good
for you. And you know, hopefully this is not your reality. But I
want to play this last clip of this set, and this is just
getting still black man comes to the rescue. Help
Unknown: has come from unexpected sources, like
neighborhood free spirit Elijah, a clothing minimalist
I was getting on the far side of where my mortgage company was
getting like serious with me because you were behind in your
behind. I'll do it. I can do it, but I'll do
it, meaning I'll make up the Yes, I
will. I will do it. He'll pay your mortgage, right? So this is
my Elijah,
the Vietnam vet gets about $900 in monthly benefits. Saves
almost half.
I'm not a things person. How
much money you think I'm spending on my attire?
As he says, I have a few friends like you who are in the stuff
world. Is what he calls you're always getting into some kind of
mishap, grateful
to get by with a little help from her friends. White was also
embarrassed
you're the loser, you know? How can you have this kind of
background and be landing here? There must be something wrong.
It has to be so I could have not started the business. I stayed
at the World Bank, not taking that, you know, risk,
but she did her reward financial fragility, something she now
shares with a surprisingly large portion of the former, so called
middle class.
Moe Factz: That's a story you don't hear about much, and
Elijah is a friend of the show. Oh, really, I've spoken to him
on the phone before, because somebody that knows the listens
to the show knows him, and I've heard I've had this clip for a
year or so, um, just sitting on it. And they were like, Oh, I
know Elijah. And I was like, oh yeah. I was like, I think I seen
him before, and I've actually, I talked to him when I was making
my decision, uh, you know, going through the whole vaccine thing,
and, like, he gave me some good insight. Oh yeah. It's just
that, like, it's small world. Very small world. But he, like
said, he only makes $900 a month, but he was able to help
her and see this thing. That's what I'm saying. Like, man,
we're meant to be together. I don't I don't care. Like humans,
we're meant to be together, whether it's no what we do here
on the show, or having a spouse or a loved one, or somebody you
know. And that's the greatest pride about doing the show, is
when people write in and they say they listen to with their,
you know, their mom or their spouse or, you know, just
creating something people can, you know, come around and and
actually, you know, maybe you start some debate or give some
insight to each other. So I. Makes it all worthwhile. So
Adam Curry: who fills this void that that Kevin Samuels has, has
left? That's an excellent
Moe Factz: question. I don't think the way he I don't think
you can recreate what he how he came about it. It was doing
covid. It was doing, you know, everybody was doing some,
understand, soul searching, and he just hit it the right time.
But I don't think it needs to be one person. See, that's the
thing about the independent media. Doesn't need to be one
person. That's the whole problem with with the mainstream media
that they have these few Talking Heads? No, we need to have
multiple people and keep saying, do the heavy lifting together.
That would be my answer to it.
Adam Curry: Well, I think you're also doing some of it. I mean,
you, you this is a consistent part of your message, not as
directly as this particular episode. But I think you, I
think, you know, this show fills some of that void to some
degree.
Moe Factz: And that's, that's the whole point is, like, I'm
always gonna be pro family, um, because I know I understand the
importance of it, and, yeah, so I mean, hey, I'll play my part.
I'll definitely play my part. And, you know, and then bring it
about a ceasefire in the gender war. That'll be it. That'll be
a,
Adam Curry: oh, that, yeah. That would be a good one. That's a
good goal to have. It's gonna take some work.
Moe Factz: Well, as we always do, we gotta say goodbye to the
bad guy. We did it with 45 savage and we lost the
godfather. So I'm saying we gotta take one one last time.
Let the bad guy say goodbye.
Unknown: You are a bunch of fucking assholes. You know why
you don't have the guts to be what you want to be. You need
people like me.
You need people like me so you can point your fucking fingers I
say, that's the bad guy. I so what I make you good? You're not
good. You just know how to hide our life. You Me, I don't have
that problem. Me. I always tell her to even when I lie. I
so cyclone knight to the bad guy. Last time you're gonna see
a bad guy like this again, let me tell you.
Adam Curry: Classic Scarface, beautiful.
Moe Factz: Hey, he was, you might see him as a bad guy, but
he was our bad guy, and he was he we saw the miss understand.
So peace to the godfather. Thank you, Mo,
Adam Curry: this was, I didn't expect that this, this
particular show, but now that we're at the end of it, it all
makes sense, because it really ties a lot together that we've
been talking about for these past couple of years. Yeah, it
really does. It sure does. Thank you, brother. I really
appreciate the work.
Moe Factz: It's a pleasure. And as I always say, pay attention
to everything, and the truth reveal itself. And
Adam Curry: no mo that there's always a sandwich and a bed here
in the Texas Hill Country for you and the family no matter
what happens. Hold on, everybody. Thank you very much
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