The Blind stares of a million pairs of eyes looking hard but
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mo facts with Adam curry for January 5 2022 It's episode
number 73 We're back from a short holiday break I'm Adam
curry coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country and
time once again to spin the Wheel of topics from here to
snowy Northern Virginia please say hello to my friend on the
other end ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mole facts How you doing? I
am good mo How is Northern Virginia?
Well, I am snowed in by sociation Thank you very much
you all went through it in Austin last year with the oh
you're gonna
you're gonna blame you're gonna blame Texas now is that what
you're doing?
Well the universe had to be balanced you went through it
last year I gotta go this year so that's what we're fully
balanced
did you lose power? Yes I did and did the generator to the
generator work?
I actually didn't haven't had the generator installed yet. Oh.
Oh no. Due to the you know the involuntary vacation I'm on I'll
pause all big purchases. Yeah guys. That was one of them
suck so bad. Rs Rs just came in it's being installed I think
next week and I'm hoping like cuz you know we had 14 degrees
the other day like it's if we had had some precipitation you
know everything iced up it would have been horrible.
And that's what happened here. It was it snowed that morning it
was wet heavy, sticky snow. It was like the all the trees were
double over. And I was telling my wife I was like yeah, we're
gonna get it you have to get out of here so we got a couple of
hotel rooms and made it like a intown vacation kind of thing
for the kids and yeah, just got home like yesterday.
Oh wow. I didn't even know that. I didn't know you're in a hotel.
Yes. And the thing is I'm lucky because a lot of people were
stuck on on the highway
I 95 Yeah,
yeah so I'm I'm blessed to be in the situation that I'm in and
reminder
people always have some water in your car always have a couple of
bottles of water no matter what
bales packets, Taco Bell packets,
nine millimeter helps. These are all things that are very
important. On the on the j ob front how are we doing? I don't
know. This so they live in limbo? When When are they going
to tell you something? Is the 24th Oh bro this is This is so
frustrating.
Well I have my Intel sources on inside. And they've went full
code ready to send everybody back home work from home. So I
don't know how this is gonna play out. I'm planning out like
I'm on my second career so I'm not really pressed about it. I
like to thank all the producers you know for helping out um,
that takes the variation down a little bit of course I'm not
worried just the uncertainty of it all but families okay, though
me families. Okay. Great Christmas. I'm not going to let
this kind of thing wear me down. So I mean, that's best that's
the main thing and like I said, the kind words I don't know if
you um, of course you knew but people didn't know we had a
Christmas special on the YouTube channel. Mama facts stop by
Oh, gosh. Oh my goodness. How was that?
It was great. She came through and Alexei we had a Christmas
special course. The reason for this season. She came and done
what she's done for the last I know 41 years. Maybe almost 50
years now. Read the actual Christmas story. Nah, he actual
biblical Christmas Story theater five. So I shared that with the
facts family. That was my gift to them. If you haven't seen it,
it's still up. So go check it out.
I'll put a link to it. I'll put a link to it in the show notes.
People definitely need to check it out. That's so cool, man.
Very cool.
Yeah, so and I'm here we are. We're into 2022 It's a lot of
serious there in deputy with the show that we're about to have
now. So if you want to go in
Yes, I've been dying to crank it up. You kidding me? That's
right. There it is. Oh, we have topics flies around in circular
motion round round. It goes where it stopped. Nobody knows.
But of course Moe knows because he put the show together today
the topic RemoteFX with Adam curry episode 73 is Oh, yeah,
I've been waiting for this one. Yeah, I've been waiting for it
nice.
Oh, juicy. I have I'm very grateful to Jessie smoly aka
juicy because if there's no juicy there may not be any more
facts.
Say what? No.
Yes. All right. So I gotta get ready. Give me the abbreviated
version.
Like how I delivered that line. I mean, was that like, say
whatnot? I mean, that was like
it was. It was a cliffhanger delivery on the other end of it,
but for people that didn't know, um, how I got my star in this
commentating podcast and just sharing my perspective is, um,
star star. Sure, yeah, yeah, yes. Well, he asked a question.
He asked, um, why did Jussie Smollett lay leave the noose on
his neck? And I had to answer and the funny thing is, just to
give a quick why I had to answer. It was another YouTuber
that has said, not to me personally, but just on his
channel. Don't be a talker, be a doer. So when he said that it
was a bell rung in my head, and this is my opportunity to be a
doer instead of a talker, thank you for the sound. But that's
kind of how it was. And that's the reason why I say this is,
this is how powerful these things are that you get a ball
going. And so I call it a star. He led me through he normally
doesn't let people with through they haven't made a donation. I
didn't realize this. I just called I didn't know how
deadbeat.
I will,
unknowingly I saw. Oh, that's what all that beads say. I
didn't know I didn't know I didn't need to send a check. I
didn't know about that. Right. But
the thing is this the weirdness that I got through, so okay, my
view, he said, Okay, he got called back in the next day. And
then he started saying when I called in, this is Mo with the
facts.
Right, I do remember this this origin story. Yes. Right.
So then that that's how mo facts came about. And that gave me the
platform to hone my skills. And then I reached out to you
through Twitter to answer the DAS a das questions slash
reparations. And yeah,
and the rest is history. The rest the rest is history.
Podcast history.
So that's the mount mo facts. Origin Story, thanks to juicy
aka Jessie sub smell nice. So this story is very personal to
me.
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All right. So I guess we got to start at the end. Of course,
this is the this is the breakdown of how the story
played out and this is from Dan Abrams. Last one.
The evidence is in and complete against actor Jussie Smollett,
the former empire star small that is charged with six felony
counts of disorderly conduct after allegedly filing false
police reports in connection with a staged hate crime attack
that prosecutors say he orchestrated on a frigid night
in January of 2019. So while I was back on the stand today
seeming combative is prosecutor Dan Webb questions his
communications with Abel osundairo, one of the two
brothers who testified that Smollett paid them to stage the
attack, which included wearing red hats to look like supporters
of then President Donald Trump, putting a rope around his neck
and pouring bleach on him. yelling things like this is
maggot country in Chicago. The cross examination revealed some
inconsistencies with smell that's testimony on Monday smell
at testified that messages between him and Abel who smell
that says, had been hired as a personal trainer not as his
attacker were to set up a workout for that day not to
arrange a hoax attack. Today when web asks MILLETTE if he
used Instagram to send private messages to Abel osundairo
Regarding the timing of the fake attack on the night in question,
similar denied sending the messages. But then web show it's
MILLETTE for messages that he sent to osundairo on Instagram
that night, the last of which was sent about 90 minutes before
the alleged assault. And when asked whether any of those
messages mentioned a workout on the night of the incidents let
admitted they didn't but then he fired back. Well, there was also
no messages about any attack.
I'm so happy. I'm so happy you're doing this episode.
Because I know, I know. You're going to humanize everybody and
it's going to blow us away by the end of this journey. I'm so
excited about this.
I hope to do that. Um, and at the same time, give some
background like to why I think Jessie did it. Because like you
said he's been made a two dimensional character punchline
of jokes, which rightfully so when you push pull up the bleach
thing is you put yourself there. The bleach thing is weird. The
the bleach thing. I don't, I don't I guess he was like, Oh,
we're gonna get the black coffee or something. I don't know why
No, but this thing was about it's never been a trend. I mean,
as far as I know, I mean, I checked with all of my racist
friends and they said, Nah, man, the news was cool, but it's
bleached. No, we hadn't come up with that one. I've never heard
that.
Right. So I don't know either. Um, but Beck said the news
thing. That was that was the linchpin for me that I want I'm
gonna explain to you why that was such a triggering, um, prop
and this whole situation it has significance but that's like
that's just the background of it. We got a Nigerian scam
artists we hopping on planes and we got a Star Star Empire Empire
star, um, at the height of his career pulling something like
this. So it's just it was a weird story. And I knew for the
very beginning that was a scam or hoax. And I'll explain why
later, but just give give when I first heard the story, I'm doing
my normal routine, iron my clothes getting ready for work.
And it comes across like that Fox Morning Show. Kind of not
Fox News, but the fox local show Fox five in DC. And I'm sitting
here listening to and I'm like, this is bullcrap. But I didn't.
I didn't have the facts. Family, man. Are you so? Mrs. Facts had
to be
brought in? Yes. Right.
So I'm going on and on about how this is bullcrap button him,
rightfully so was proven correct. So with that said,
let's go and get to the second clip from Dan.
Prosecutors later pointed out that there were also no messages
or calls between MILLETTE and osundairo that canceling the
training session after the attack, right think about that
if they had a training session scheduled. Right. He would have
called him after the attacks that by the way, I'm not gonna
be able to have our training session. But prosecutors don't
believe there's training session. So yesterday small let
claimed he and Abel us and Daryl had multiple sexual encounters
in private rooms in Chicago bathhouses claims which
osundairo denies but somewhat testified he didn't even
recognize Osen DeRose voice during the assault, saying in
that moment, I'm not going to stop and say hey, bola a
nickname for him? Is that you? It was an attack it happened
fast. Small. I'd also admitted today that he driven the
osundairo brothers to his apartment building downtown in
the days preceding the allegedly fake assault. Video from the day
shows the group circling smell Let's block multiple times
passing the staircase where the assault took place. Three times.
Smart offered inconsistent explanations. And last week
Yoson DeRose testified that the meeting was a dry run for the
fake assault number yesterday Smith had testified that he was
attacked by a large man and a ski mask with quote, pale skin.
He assumed the man was white because the racial slurs the
attacker used during the assault. But today when pressed
about his recollection of the attack, as well as his initial
interviews with Chicago detectives investigating smell
had acknowledged that he told officers the attackers were
white. He also denied telling police he was the victim of a
hate crime saying that he merely told him he was attacked.
Whenever I hear Chicago bathhouses I can't help but be
triggered to think of Barry s
you know it had to be an Obama connection there even though
it's not very specifically but Chicago bear bathhouses is
synonymous with Obama yep so um so you know they gotta be you
somewhere lurking in the shadows um, on this topic but so we got
the story laid out and what kind of gay is Jessie aka juicy to
our another fellow gay man the way he just did because he said
the guy that pieces pulled it had relations with keep that he
was having relationships with relations with him in Chicago
bathhouses. isn't that bad form for being in the community to
out somebody like that?
Yeah, I guess so.
That's just, you know, it's kind of like dead naming and those
kind of in misgendering Yeah, but
when when your asses on the line and you're in court, you're
gonna sing like a bird.
Or if you consider down low brother, which we talked about
before as well. So the way it seems is the one of the brothers
may have not been openly gay.
No way was definitely not protocol to do that.
Yeah. So I just wanna I wanted to point out just to show you
how desperate Jesse was to bring people down with him as he was
going down in flames. So I got we got one last clip and then
we're really gonna get into the under story. We're not going to
do the cloths over blow by blow. Not gonna do. It's just not a
core TV people. Yeah, we're not gonna do that we got some
totally, of course, sound totally different in line. But
let's go ahead and get the final piece of the story. Well, the
what happened that night
and when asked to be knows that the Osen DeRose were his
attackers MILLETTE said, There's no way for me to know that. But
then prosecutors pointed to video and GPS evidence as well
as the brothers own testimony that they attacked him. In
addition to that, that's more than questioned the brothers
credibility. He said, Well, they're liars. They also said I
had something to do with it. And that's not true. It was one
other exchange that caught my attention. During last week's
testimony from Abel osundairo smell. That's lawyers question
whether the brothers had offered to refuse to testify in exchange
for a million bucks each Yoson DeRose. Tonight during a second
round of questioning today, so let's attorneys again brought up
the bribe claims Muller testified the brothers made the
offer but he turned them down. But later when the prosecution
asked milette if the brothers actually made that offer, he
heads saying, well, a representative for the pair had
reached out to his team.
Okay, so these guys had 2 million bucks to offer.
I think they're what they were saying. They were going to
retract their Oh,
they were going to retract their statements for a million bucks
each. Yes. Please who? Well, okay, this someone was big money
was all
this. Jesse has a lot of famous and powerful friends.
Yes. Kamala Harris. Cory Booker. I know those. Yep.
Yep. We're going to get into some more about that. The main
thing so this, I don't have any clips from Jesse, other than
this one, because I didn't want to make it about him. Really. I
wanted to make it more about the event. But before we get into
that one clip, the main takeaway from this is you can't do
anything anymore without it being trapped.
Yeah, the phone GPS, right. Well, no, no, no, no,
he and I could have made this show could have been 10 hours
because there's so many rabbit holes that go down. And this is
something I want to cover in the last tapes. Because I need more
visuals with it. But there's the thing in Chicago called pod
cameras. Have you ever heard a pod cameras?
Pod pod? Yes. Is that like the shot the shot the shot cams
where they detect gunshots and then
located where these cameras they have on every corner? Almost.
Okay. And this is how they track the the the brothers back from
the scene? Yes. All the way. The pod cameras plus they had the
determinant use used were private surveillance. Oh yeah.
Ring ring cameras. Ring cameras? Yeah, Ring Ring doorbell. Oh,
yeah, absolutely.
32 Ring doorbells. What did they what did they call what did they
call that? No, they call them private surveillance cameras or
something? Something that is the term they use. But the pod
cameras. I was just wondering if you heard of that. And yeah,
also did they license those through you?
Thank you. That was writing up with all the lawsuit as we as we
spoke,
you should be getting a piece of that money to hell. Yeah. So
that's a whole nother thing. In this case, the ride sharing the
text message.
All of that is tremor. Yes. That's such a good point. It's
such a good point. You know, when we listed the other place,
you know, people would park you know, like shitty old cars near
us that we could basically we'd see these crappy old cars, you
know, tires gone, wheels gone and stuff like that. And like,
you know, and they and they wouldn't remove these, the
police and Austin's holding a whole nother thing. Like, you
know what, I just torched it. If I just torched it, then they'll
have to come. And then we decided against that because
ring cameras. Yeah, it's like you can't hide
you they have big track these guys all the way back to the
airport from that spot. That's all for this surveillance. So I
know you were like that because you the OTG Yeah. OTG got to
kind of guy so um, yeah, so let's get into this one clip of
Jesse, aka juicy, and he's gonna explain why he thinks he was
attacked.
Why do you think you were targeted? I can just assume. I
mean, I come really, really
hard. against
45. I come really, really hard against has administered ration.
And I don't hold my tongue. You don't want to ask you about
Jesse Smollett, I think that's horrible. doesn't get worse. As
far as I'm concerned. Were you aware that he made that
statement? I saw it. I don't know what to say to that. You
know? You know, I appreciate him not brushing over it.
And there is no doubt in your mind, what motivated this
attack,
I can only go off of their words. I mean, who says, impact
this Magga country ties a noose around your neck, and pours
bleach on you. And this is just a friendly fight. I will never
be the man that this did not happen to I am forever changed.
And I don't subscribe to the idea that everything happens for
a reason. But I do subscribe to the idea that we have the right
and responsibility to make something meaningful. Out of the
things that happen to us. Good.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And there it is, um, he's gonna make something
meaningful out of this, even if it's a hoax or not. Yeah. And he
made it political. I didn't. He said this happened to him
because he comes comes Harley 45. Yeah. What all that vocal
fraud. He may be a Hummer. But
yeah. Okay. I'll leave that where it is.
Oh, but yeah, that was when I heard. Everybody knew this was a
hoax. Everybody except for those people.
Can I tell you what my first inclination was? Because I
immediately I of course, immediately Well, what the way I
witnessed it first was Stephanie Ruhle. From MSNBC. I don't know
if you have that clip or not. Not don't. She's the ex. She's
like Goldman Sachs.
Let me see. We played a clip before I believe on the show you
where she
was crying, she's crying. Oh, my goodness, I can't believe this
is happening. And I'm looking at like, this sounds pretty weird.
But what I found real quick was, and I'm sure you get into that
is there was this bill out there from Kamala and Cory Booker,
which was called the lynching bill or the anti lynching bill.
And that's I'm
going to ask you to put the goggles on.
I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't mean
to do goggles on engaged
even in 2020 to the future in the past. Oh, um, yeah, but
we're gonna we're gonna talk about that, but we have to go
even further back than that. Okay, thing, because that was
seemed like the genesis of it. But I have to give some context
here. And this goes to our genesis of meeting. Oh, column
Kamala Kamala Harris. I call it common, Kemal, um, wrote out her
president's presidency count on her candidacy for president on
January 20 2019. Right. And she was met with so much pushback,
one well, specifically from the quote unquote, a Das, quote
unquote FBA foundational blacks, whatever, by this contingency
that I buy lineage I am a part of she was destroyed her her.
Her campaign was null and void from the very beginning. That's
because
everybody knew like, no, no, we're not gonna do another Obama
trick.
Exactly. Man, that was the thing like what do you have to offer?
And the bill that you alluded to was one of those things that
they tried to build up for her. So when she could step right
into doing something for black people? Yeah. So yeah, so that
was one quote, unquote, her tangible, which we'll get, we'll
get to the lynching thing. But I want to go back, we this is a
five block clip, maybe we don't need to play all of them, just
to give people context of what was going on at that time. But
Kamala Harris, because she is the center point of this whole
story. So now we have to go back joy and read with Shareen
Mitchell. And this is the Russian bots clear part one.
They appear to be a human, but they don't play a big gap. As as
Adam just said, in the time that they've tweeted, and they tweet
you should you respond to them.
Generally, no, I mean, off the back, you should say back and
just sort of watch their engagement, how many times are
tweeting what they're tweeting about and even the topics in
particular, and a lot of the ones that are pretending to be
black people and black women in particular who are focusing on
black identity have these sorts of aspects in the way They're
talking about language. If we saw the other day, there was an
account that was supposed to be for black supporting Howard
Schultz, that account was eventually pulled down. But that
was a prime example of someone trying to mimic support from the
black community for a particular candidate. So these kinds of
things that are happening at this moment, we have to pay a
little bit more close attention to it because there is nuance,
but there are also identifying factors. For example, right now
from the black identity framework, there's a new sort of
hashtag and or identity that's in their bios called a D O S, or
D. O S, which is standing for descendants of slaves.
Yeah, this is the genesis of us. Yes.
So this, honestly 2022 We're almost what is that? This was
2019. Yeah, three years ago. So three years to the date almost a
roughly when she first rolled her campaign out. This is my
Genesis, this has been this least her you know, us crossing
paths. So this story has a lot of history to it for me so and
they coming off of last show talking about poke sees and
people making false claims and being false victims. I hope
everybody gets the roll over into into this show. Um, if you
haven't heard that, that's the Duke lacrosse case. So as you
see, this was right after she made her announcement. She was
getting flamed on on social media. And to the point where
they had to blame it on bots. Russian bots.
Yeah, that's what I picked up. I picked up the, hey, wait a
minute, that's not bots, that's that's people and that their
descendants of slaves or whatever. She said, that's all I
knew. And I was trying to figure that part out. That's when you
reached out to me.
Yes. Cuz you said Das. And then that's why I added the A to it.
Because it matters that a matters. Because what they try
to do is this is the lumping together the color people that
aka people of color. They try to put everything into this black
label. And this is like really the point where people a das
lineage was really making a stating a claim that Retrospec
you mentioned before, that we won't have another Obama. So
let's go ahead and get into the second part of that clip.
So it's the indication that they are, they are someone who was
born in, you know, as a descendant in the United States,
who was representing black America and has the vernacular
and the language that people will believe it's someone who's
a part of our community who's either debating about Kamala or
debating about Booker, because that's who just announced and
trying to say, we know who's the most, you know, who's who's
black in America and making sure that they're, you know, sort of
talking in this vernacular that makes it look like they are
American? Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I did see a huge uptick in bot activity when it came to
when
it just dropped a bomb really quickly. And she was to be not,
uh, not really black. Not, not really.
You can see that happening. But actually, there was uptake of
those bots, just before she was about to announce so they were
preparing for her announcement.
I love if you kind of take this all the way through. You could
almost say, Silicon Valley, man, they suck so bad. There's so
racist. They can't even make black bots properly.
Well, this is Putin's bots. So rice, Russian
bots. Yeah, of course. What am I thinking? Yeah, you can't put
this on. I love it. I love how I love how joy and read says, oh,
yeah, no, I see the bots come on immediately.
Oh, yeah. Wow. Okay, Mom, what she said she used the word bomb.
In she's right. In her. The Obama analogies, right? Yes.
Because soon it was like, people were waiting on commodity to
drop because they saw the Obama Okey doke being played out. Once
again, this was not a candidate. Yeah, this was not our
candidate. This was a this was a package product that they were
trying to push us. And we said no. And not only was it that,
you know, her politics was a problem. The fact that they were
trying to bike kind of force her to force her own us as being
kind of a das when they use this term black so loosely. And this
is why it's so important that we coined a term for political
reasons and lineage reasons to identify that our claim is
specific. And our domain demands are specific political demands
are specific.
Now at this time there was some there's also some confusion
added to it by the group out in California forgotten the the
guy's name again, the lawyer, boom. You know, they're saying
we're the A das group. And that was like the A das political
group versus the A das lineage group, which is poorly
understood by all
right. So you're talking about tone talk. Yeah, tone talks,
right. And so you get Kearney though. Yeah, I have to give
them credit because they're the one that brought the A das
hashtag to popularity. And this is this I want to show people
this is the power of hashtags. Because when you can give a nice
clean hashtag that everybody can put their energy behind, you can
take down a political candidate in their tracks. And this is
what really, this was the they were trying to hide this, the
fact that these people that are loosely linked, if not linked to
all been by nothing but a lineage and a hashtag destroyed
who should have been president now. That was the whole goal.
They were this was her big rollout. Joe Biden was a in my
perspective, Joe Biden was a backup plan. He was despair.
political candidate, she was their first choice.
That's a good take and what what's baffling about that is
how can you fall for it? How can you fall for the concept that a
Doss America is going to put up with that shit? Well, I'm glad
you haven't done the research. You know, what, who's talking to
you?
What the problem? Well, they had the audacity to think they could
do this. Now we're going to get to another set of throwback
clips. And this is very important. We're not rehashing.
One we got a lot of new listeners to this was three
years ago, and three. Now looking through the lens of
where we're at now backwards, you can clearly see it is going
to answer your question. They have big media and they
understand the power of independent media. And to hear
that play out the big media and how they were trying to force
this through. We have Don Lemon, and he's talking to April Ryan,
about
my favorite people. This is great. I love these people.
This.
This is about Kamala Harris is African American. Yeah. So
April,
listen, the the only black woman in the 2020 campaign is fielding
questions about race and I just want to play for you what Kamala
Harris said to the Breakfast Club when she was asked about
how people on social media are questioning if she's African
American.
Another meme says a Kamala Harris is not African American.
Her parents were immigrants from India, in Jamaica, and she was
raised in Canada, not the United States.
In fact,
I was born in Oakland. And, and raised in the United States,
except for the years that I was in high school in Montreal,
Canada. And look, this is the same thing they did to Brock.
Yes, this is this is not new to us. And so I think that what
they're trying to do, they're trying to do what has been
happening over the last two years, which is powerful voices,
trying to sow hate and division among us. And so we need to
recognize when we're being played.
Wow, this is fantastic. I didn't realize that you didn't even
answer the question. No, I, this is this is this is mind blowing.
And then to say, Well, I was born in Oakland, as you know,
that gives you black creds. Have you looked at Oakland? Oakland
more white than it then you can then then then the hill country?
Right? It's not black anymore.
She She says this is what she this is what they do to
us. Oh, another good one. I wouldn't catch that. Of course.
Yeah. Who is
the US that she's talking about? Is she talking about people like
her maracas test
your sister man. What? Yeah. Well, if it's me in Brockton,
yeah. Then yeah. Okay, that's fine. Of course, they do that to
you because you're phony.
The thing is, don't try to graft yourself in to a lineage that's
not your embrace your any
arrogant. It's, I'm sorry, I just have to. I just have to say
this. I cannot I cannot believe that there that politically
stupid. But I mean, what it shows is, they think black
people are stupid.
Hello. Hello. And they learn their lesson. Learned there. And
this is wow. This was show 15. So 15. We're going through this
real time. So if people want to go back and listen, you can see
how this played out from 15 to forward. Yeah, yeah. Santa's 18
is coming out with 1815 was when they tried to do the Russian bot
thing. So we followed the whole development and the destruction
of a political candidate by grassroot efforts. And right it
is arrogancy to say, You know what, we know what's best for
black people when we can put our brown person out here called
them black black being used in the term of African American
with or a Das. On desk. This is why this term is very dangerous
because even in the title, they said Donlin as if Kamala Harris
is African American, that when you when they use the term
African American, they're using as a das as a synonym to a Das,
which she's which she is not. Because if that's the case, then
we got to say, Elon Musk is the richest African American of all
time.
Exactly, exactly.
We got to be very careful with these tariffs. And they learned
their lesson. And they're still learning their lesson. But this
was the arrogance of the Democratic Party. And they
learned I said, not to repeat myself, but they learned their
lesson. But April Ryan is going to push back against Don Lemon.
Oh, African Americans.
This is a great clip isn't one this is by the way, this show
has receipts people just so you know, this is not This is stuff
that we've done. So glad you're here. What do you make of her?
Is it good for her? A lot to unpack here.
Yeah. What does black enough mean? Can someone give me a
definition of what Black is enough is I don't want to go
down the road of the stereotype. When people say we're black.
Number one,
she is a black woman. She's a mixed race woman. When you see
her you see her blackness, but she is also South Asian. Her mom
is South Asian
and her dad is to make
April, April, April. I mean, listen, more power to her. And I
think that's great. That is that should be enough. It is enough
that she's a black woman. We are not a model. To say oh, no, no,
no, no, I think it's like you're not you're not hearing what
people are saying. The people who are saying she blacking out
that's bold, that's BS. But to, to to distinction to say, is she
African American? Or is she black? Or she? Whatever, that
what's there is nothing wrong with that. There is a difference
between being African American and being black. Let people let
people Latino people are people of color, but they're not black.
They're brown people. She's okay. But she is a black woman.
Okay, that's why I agree with that. I agree with that. But is
she African American? But is she African American? There's a
difference. There's nothing wrong with that. No one is
trying to take anything away from her. And all she had to do
was say I am black. No, I'm not African American.
I love Don Lemon for this. That was so that was so proper of
him.
It was oh, he had to pay and we've we've documented without
receipt that he had to kowtow. Yep. After this. And and, you
know, eat his words, even to the point where he does have
involved involvement with Jesse as well as the story develops
with Jesse Smollett, later down the line. So I didn't go to so
many rabbit holes with this story, that it was like, man,
which which angle do you take? Right? Well, I want to use this
as a good point to go back a year later, to show I mean that
this is their candidate. This was their original candidate
being Kamala Harris. The antics that they tried to use,
including Jussie Smollett, to endear her to us. And it didn't
work. You can hear how hard April Ryan is working. And I
wonder if Don what what angle is Don working from a nice set of
clips? Is he control opposition? Or is he was he backing another
candidate at this time? You know, that? I just can't figure
out his well, you know, on this day. Okay.
So first question, April Ryan a Das?
I believe so. I'll do a quick check while you while you're
doing
I mean, it'll be more authentic for April Ryan to say I grew up
in Baltimore, which he did then Kamala Harris I was born in, in
Oakland. The thing about Don Lemon is I think that he is how
can I say this? I feel authenticity from him often. I
feel authenticity from him as a man I feel authenticity for him
as a black man. I feel authenticity from him as a gay
man. It shines through but he's in an environment and you know,
it's just this one went too far for him. He'll he'll do anything
necessary but he went this I think that was something in him
that said, No, I just can't I cannot deny my own existence
with this bullshit.
honorees. I'll push back against that is what we've seen. And
maybe this was Dan's last stand. We call them on the show Donald
lemon. Can't forget Yeah, this was Donald Lim cuz he jumped
Armenia talents prior to this, and after this, I don't know if
he was trying to give them some advice like, hey, boots on the
ground is saying they're not filling her. Maybe this is not
the right tape. I'll say that but possible reads what he's
told to read. And he's told he does what he's told to do. Um,
because we see how CNN has been exposed recently. Yeah, but just
their whole shop. Oh, there is
we, when you have a free form, interview, I mean, I've had it
you know, sometimes just go too far. If you do it every single
night and just you know, he just went went off the reservation,
but I think that was I think that was sincere.
Yes. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. But, um, speaking
of sincerity, we now we have to go over and this is post her
dropping out in a race. This is Roland Martin, aka who Sam
Boulais. Number one. Yeah. He goes in and has a rant about the
tax on Kamala Harris and her blackness.
Donald Trump Jr. is Fredo and he clearly can't read a bio. All he
has to do is go read the bio Senator Kamala Harris, that you
understand her background and so he's probably the dumbest of all
the Trump children. But but here's the real issue here, the
attack so sooner Kamala Harris's blackness really started, the
moment she announced, and where it's really coming from. This is
Black self hate. cloaked in black self love. There are
people out there who are saying that because she is not a
descendant of slaves, she really can't speak to the black
experience. They dismissed the fact that she went to an HBCU
they dismiss for actual background. And that's what the
real issue here they are black people out there who are angry
that they say who say Obama didn't do enough for African
Americans. And what they're not doing is demanding really policy
questions. You're questioning her blackness, you may have some
fools out there who are black, especially a lot of black men
who are criticizing her because her husband is white. And so I
understand that folks are talking about Donald Trump Jr.
Repeating this, but really, you've got some asinine black
folks out there, who are the ones who are questioning her
blackness, and they are shameful, and they are
despicable. And they should be called out at every turn.
Can Roland Martin show his a das card?
No, he cannot do so. And listen to the language. Fools. Yeah,
asinine. It was complete shaming, and they didn't
understand the more they shamed, the worse they got, the harder
we clamp down on their candidate. The harder more they
shamed, the harder we can and
she was there's something there. There's something there that he
said that they're discussing. He said, they're not looking at
their policies that just looking at her blackness. And I think
that's correct, but I think it's correct, because they already
they the blacks already went through the Obama Apollo will
policy it'll be okay. Go ahead. There
was a there was a vein in I'm loosely part of that vein, it
was people that's been fed up with this is this is your
candidate, shut up, go vote. Don't ask for anything. And we
did have policy questions. And she was at I didn't put this
clip in here. She would ask specifically, what will you do
specifically for a das people about reparation? Right. Okay.
Yes,
I do remember that.
And she said, clearly, I'm not going to do anything
specifically for black people, not all people. And that was
when she jumped into the grave and started to pull dirt on top
of herself. And her political career. It was over when she
made that declaration. It was over. But what I'm rolling wants
to do is say Is she black enough? Yeah. Call us. She
listens to two pockets. We'd much blacker Do you want um, and
that was one of the things that she said was just a another
scoop of dirt and all her political grave. And I'm
speaking metaphorically here for for anybody that's listening.
may want to highlight that. And another way we're talking about
her political career, it was oh, it was over as soon as it began.
And this is the from the her rollout. Campaign rollout. Go
ahead.
I was gonna say I had what's cool about this because I of
course, I'm intimately familiar with most of the story. In
something I didn't realize is the timing of the smell let with
Kamala Harris. Of course, I know I see how this is coming
together. But I'm, I just want to mention like holy crap, I
didn't realize the timing was so it's, it's all a part of the
same timeline.
Well, I'm gonna give you the timeline. I mean, just a couple
of days, anytime. Lie. She wrote out her campaign on 120 January
20, of 2019. January 22 is when Jesse Smollett received a racist
and homophobic threatening letter man to the studio in
Chicago was higher was
that was the one with the letters cut out? Yes, like the
serial killer. It was a nice touch I had to say it was
with with Tylenol and they had put BC in there as well. So that
was a 22nd 29th is when the actual event happened. So these
are days apart. No. And yeah, and just to go back to the anti
lynching bill, part of it, you know, that plays into it as
well. So, I think we stopped that 10
We're
not till 10 We got to play 1010 Now, yeah, and this is her. Once
again, stepping on a rake. Kamala Harris and Jesse Smollett
are like almost twins in a way of the unforced errors of just
overdoing it. So, this is her admitting to smoking weed, but I
want to this is a long clip so you can stop it throughout the
clip if you want to. But this is from the Washington Post. And
this is right after she said it. This is her them trying to clean
up her mess that she had made with Charlemagne on guard, as I
call it, because he's how protective he is of a commodity.
But this is number 10.
Kamala Harris's comments from her radio interview with The
Breakfast Club are sparking controversy.
Have you ever smoked way mitt?
Yeah,
I'm so tired of these puns. Well sparking sparking cat and not
only did they write the stupid pond because you know, sparking
up a joint etc. But then she even pauses to make sure that
all the dumb Fox heard it. Oh, did you feel clever we are
be prepared.
Okay. Harris's comments from her radio interview with The
Breakfast Club are sparking controversy.
Have you ever smoked?
Okay. And I inhale? I didn't I didn't. It was a long time ago.
Harris explains her pro pot stance and admits that she
indulged in the substance while in college. Then this exchange
happened.
What does Kamala Harris listen to?
What were you listening to when he was?
Oh, my goodness. Oh, yeah, definitely snoop. Tupac. Sure,
people quickly jumped on what they saw as a contradiction
given that Tupac and Snoop Dogg were not producing music while
she was in college. Harris graduated from Howard University
in 1986, and later got her JD from the University of
California in 1989. To Fox debut album to pocalypse now came out
in 1991. And snoops first album, doggy style, followed a few
years later in 1993. So if you're just listening to this
piece on the radio, it sounds like Harris's memory is mixed
up. Or maybe she lied about what her stoner jams were in an
attempt to sound cool at a time when more and more Democrats and
even a few Republicans are on board with legal weed. But when
you watch Harris's whole interaction on camera, the
situation plays out very differently. DJ envy asks Harris
what she listens to what does Kamala Harris listen to?
Charlemagne then asks a separate question as an aside to the
Senator. We listen to when he was Hi. Harris politely laughs
But then makes eye contact with envy. Oh, my
goodness. Oh, yeah, definitely Snoop to PA
so it's implied that she's answering envies question about
what she listens to in general, rather than specifically what
she listened to while stone. Harris has been accused.
Charlemagne clearly asked another question. Yeah. And she
answered his question. So Washington Post is being very
disingenuous witness with me well, less.
Hello. Also, when when you're going to lie, it's easier to
look at someone else. Correct. Correct. So yeah,
but he asked a specific question to her and she acknowledged his
question. She sure did a yes. So this is null and void or
whatever they're saying over the Washington Post. And we got to
remember Washington Post is the one that wrote that letter
saying, basically, you need us Democratic Party when they want
it commanded to be vice president so that they're the
one that twisted the Democratic Party on to say, you have to use
her and now we want to female black female vice president and
you know, the first justice to be a black woman. So this was
all done through the Washington Post so we can go ahead and
finish up this clip. I just want to point that out that she's not
paying attention.
Oh my Goodness Oh yeah, definitely Snoop to PA.
So it's implied that she's answering envies question about
what she listens to in general, rather than specifically what
she listened to while stoned. Harris has been accused of
pandering because of the way this played out. And it's not
the first time a politician has been put in that position on the
show.
What's the wisdom in that you always carry with you hot sauce?
Really? Yeah. Yeah.
Good information right now.
So while Harris was trying to make her position on pot clear,
she found herself in a pretty sticky situation.
Wow. Question, huh. Charlemagne said, Are you about to jump into
formation? is he referring to like Beyonce formation? Yes.
Which which Hillary didn't get by the way. She didn't get that
at all.
Right. But doesn't that mean a whole different? Meaning now
what we're talking about with the whole
mass formation? Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
That would also lead to people that still believe that Jesse
Smollett was attacked. There are people out there and still to
this day?
Oh, sure. Of course, of course. Yeah.
So this is another reason why this story is so important to go
back in to say how can they still believe that but now what
we're seeing with mass
what's the what's the mass formation, then but not
only that, but the whole site? The the whole push now with the
whole collective psychological? Woolsey? Calm syndrome. The
thing we're the thing with COVID. What I say everybody's
under that's,
that's massive spills over? No, it's the mass formation or some
called the mass formation formation psychosis, which is
incorrect. That's that's the one I put it but that's but it's
really mass formation, not mass formation, that's just been
bastard. It's a separate story. I'm doing it on no agenda
tomorrow. But mass formation, the theory and what that is, has
been hijacked by mass formation psychosis, which is Hitler,
which ended the whole understanding of what's really
going on,
which we've know. And just to give another tidbit of
information on this, they will plant they capital, T H, E, why
they will plant false information, and like a little
nugget of false information and with a real analysis to make it
null and void. It's exactly what's happening. And to give
you a sample witness situation with Kamala Harris and Jesse
Smollett, they use one of saying that she was his aunt. So if you
took that little nugget and put it into, you know, analysis or
whatever, it made you it renders you,
Nolan void and idiot. Yeah, yeah,
it made you immediate and made perfect, I saw them give this
gas. And I saw a bunch of content creators and podcasters,
jump on. There, you know, there's his nephew. And what it
did was just destabilize the whole point, talking points
around this whole situation. So I just wanted to point that out
as well. Be careful, if you don't have vetted information
and receipts, be careful on the information that you push for
it, because it could, you know, destroy everything that you're
working to.
And I'll say it happens to me, it happens to me all the time,
you know that sometimes it's hard. Luckily, though, people
are out there catching it. And you just got to you got it
wrong, you got to take the L quick,
that's easier. Just accept that, yeah, I got
no chip on my shoulder, I'm a washed up VJ, what the hell do I
know?
Not only that, but we get bombarded with so much
information sent, you know, by producers, which we appreciate.
But at the same time, make sure you vet it, and everything and
contexts. That way, we can make an educated decision, if it
makes it to into the show or not, because it could easily
decide miss and destabilize planning.
And the here's one, here's one to watch out for. If it's a clip
that ends on the punch line, but stops after that, right? Because
there's usually some context or a correction or something else
that we didn't see. So you got to go to C span or, you know, to
the YouTubes, you got to find the longer version. Because
that's that's the one I get caught in most like, Oh, this is
a great clip. And then I realized that was cut off in a
certain way that the is kind of out of context.
Yeah, so that's why it takes no agenda and Michelle so long to
put together cuz we have to go back and that almost everything
that we receive, of course, I'm giving a luxury to the two weeks
cycle that we have
well, but this is also one of the few podcasts that as you
say, has that luxury but it's so much that everyone jumps on the
story right away. And then you know, it's kind of set in
history. That's what happened. With more facts, we're gonna go
back after we've had, it's had time to settle, and the pieces
have fallen down and you just pick them up, we actually have a
lot of those pieces ourselves. And then Okay, now we can see
the full picture, which is why I love this, you know, from the
timeline perspective,
and it's nice and cured, and it's all ready to be, uh, you
know, enjoyed. So let's see, let's go ahead, so I'm gonna
skip a clip, or you don't want to make reference to it.
You don't want to do that. I think it's great. I think it was
kind of like the kicker to how stupid she is.
Well, let's go ahead and get into it. Yeah.
Well, Bubba, these are those moments that we love speedy
secondhand embarrassment for you Come Yeah, I'm being interviewed
on CNN. Baba being interviewed on CNN. She was asked by the CNN
reporter who's just enamored with Air Force. Who does she
think the best rapper lobbyists Here we go.
And then best rapper alive. To pop. He lives on. I know I keep
doing that. Listen, girls think Tupac lives on. I'm
with you. I'm with you. So to
me doing that. Yeah, you start hanging out with Josie catching
the best NASCAR driver alive what she said she never. She
said there's a lot of good ones out there. She had no
best rapper alive to Bob sharp char. He was gunned down about
20 years ago. No.
That's interesting, because now I know what she's saying. See, I
keep doing that. And I think what what's she saying is I
rehearse anything about black music. Just say Tupac. Hmm. And
and so she just keeps saying Tupac knows it. I smoke weed
Tupac, the best rapper alive Tupac Tupac was number one on
the charts Tupac. Oh, man, and then to admit it like that.
Which was weird.
The reason why I chose that clip to use when you have guys named
Bubba laughing at you about your raps.
They got a problem. They got a problem. Yeah, that it
shows the depth of the No, she's the gift that keeps on giving to
the Republican or right leaning pundits, because she just keeps
stepping on rakes and she even said it herself. How do I keep
making this mistake? And and she just has what they call and
baseball and sports caught. She has the yips. He has the choke
seat. She has all that when you look at her resume, everything's
there, right? She's a woman of color, you can say and if you're
Angela around rye or April Ryan, you can make the horsetail that
she's a quote unquote black woman. You know, she had the
credentials, she has the big money Soros backing her. She has
everything. But when it comes to speak, she's terrible. Sears, I
mean, it just amazes me how bad she is at her at her job. But
they this goes to show you that doesn't matter. They were going
to force her on us at 2020 until the A das FBA native blacks,
whatever term you want to use the black people of America with
their lineage going back to this country as our Genesis. You
know, we've said no, and this go. The reason why I'm pointing
this out is this when you feel powerless. When you go on social
media and say no, this actually, collectively it has power if you
have enough people pushing your stand pushing a certain time
with a hashtag. Yes. And that's why I always will give Yvette
and Tom toss their credit. Well, a DOS, right, that hashtag, not
what they did politically, they did some sleight of hand stuff,
but that's just you got to give people credit where credit's due
and I always give them their credit for that pushing, you
know, the awareness of this hashtag and it being a separate
entity in the collectiveness of black in America. So, with that
said, let me go ahead and get to why I thought Jussie Smollett
was full of crap with his story because I have to lay this out.
The Jussie Smollett story came on first on Fox News I'm
honoring my pants getting ready to go to work as I do every
morning talking to the TV and my wife's rolling her eyes like
well this man please just stop
and if I if I can just say something I'd like to say to all
the white men in America take note of this. I learned this in
college with from my roommate. Black men iron their clothes
every day themselves. This is this is a culture a culture
star. This is a cultural difference. I'm not saying
there's no white men who don't iron their shirts, but it's a
cultural thing. Washing your own clothes and and ironing them.
I'm glad you pointed it out because it is a thing. Yeah,
he's a thing. Um,
I remember that. Hey, I remember time my room was like, Hasaan
you gotta you gotta use some tide on that shit. And like, I
swear to God, it sounds so weird, right? But that's exactly
what it was. And then he's and he's like, oh, man, let me show
you how you What are you doing? Let me show you how to iron. He
was so frustrated with me.
So let's okay, this is this is the reason why I thought jelly
Do you remember? Jesse Smollett clip claim all and this story
came? No. Well, I got order mixed up. This story came out
and then the Jesse Smollett came on. This is the order. So this
came home, we can go and play number 11. Prior to this, them
announcing the Jussie Smollett story.
This sure does look dramatic, and I just found out that it is
done in our area. More on that in a second. These images are of
Metro in Chicago, that's a commuter rail system, it uses
open flames to heat up rails in the extreme cold. The heaters
are gas fed on maybe what's one of the most crucial parts of the
tracks. This is called a switch it swaps trains from one track
to another it is the only part of a rail system that moves the
heaters keeps switches moving by melting snow and ice. If a
switch gets clogged up that will stop trains in a hurry. Our
Metro does use open flame track heaters just not right now uses
an open flame only during snow and ice storms. Now nothing is
actually on fire though it sure does look like it is a sort of
like a burner on a gas stove. There is one unintended side
effect of all this. The flames can burn within railroad ties.
That means they have to be replaced faster than usual. Pete
Muntean w USA nine.
Yeah, it was a cold one.
It was historically. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
This guy celebrity goes out into where they're cold enough where
you had to set train tracks on fire. To go get a Subway
sandwich. And guess attack in Chicago by white guys in this
record? Oh, Cold Snap. By yelling Hey, Empire. No, no, no,
no, that no, no, that's too that's too much. Now You
expected me to be dumb. And that was the whole thing. But that
was the sequence or the story show first. Then this Jesse
Smollett story came out. This was an actual clip. But
reporting this. I was like, that's interesting. God never
knew that. They said train tracks and whatnot, set them on
fire. But he's burning claims to keep them warm. So that's what
caught my interest. I'm like, That's very interesting. I never
knew that. And now, I was like, man, it gets cold in Chicago.
And then they play the initial Jussie Smollett report. And I'm
like, pooled crap. I'm calling and my wife and my daughter you
know, I'm like, Man, I'm gonna miss goals. And
did they believe it? Initially, they were all in. Well,
I don't think they really cared. I mean, cuz, but Well, hold
on a sec. Now hold on a second. It's important, because here we
have two women, a Das. And the claim is Hey, there lynchin
brothers out there. They didn't care. So the whole idea was
stupid. Well, of course it was really only to trigger white
people. But that said it did not goggles back on.
No, no, no, no, no. You hit it right on the head. This wasn't
for us. This wasn't for our consumption. God because you're
not walking Chicago. Random white dudes is walking from
black news in Chicago. No, no, no. No, that sounds right. None
of that sound right. But like I said, big deal sealer for me was
you're not going out for subway. Unless subway means something
totally different. Talking about Jared I mean, but I digress. I
got Chris Cooley on that way. Yeah. away for some pizza but I
don't get going out at that time of night to go get subway when
we like we said we have car services DoorDash was up and
coming then Uber Eats all these things and you're going out to
go get subway and I mean, we're talking about
do what everyone else does make a grilled cheese. Come on.
You're not going to go out.
And the ramen noodles. That's a good that's a good bedtime snack
right there then grilled cheese and ramen. Oh, but yeah, that's
what did it for me. And a person that agrees with me is the only
black juror on the trial. And this is him being interviewed.
They said history makes no sense. I'm sure
who can victim actor Jussie Smollett for making up his story
about being attacked on the streets of Chicago is speaking
out today. He was actually the lone black juror on the case and
he's confident he made the right decision because to him smallest
testimony make no sense. The lone black juror on the Jussie
Smollett trial is speaking out for the first time. In this
exclusive interview with W LS TV Andre hope says small let's
claim that he was attacked in a hate crime by the osundairo
brothers simply made no sense.
Two o'clock in the morning, cold outside when you just use your
common sense, as what's there. Yeah, it just didn't add up.
Hope said one critical piece of evidence that convinced him
smell that made up the story was the news, which police video
showed Smollett leaving on his neck for cops to see,
as an African American person, I'm not putting that noose back
on at all.
I didn't realize that he was the lone black Usher, which they
pointed out incessantly. Is that something that's in there set up
for an appeal, like racist jury?
I doubt it. I mean, I think they want this thing to go away. But
um, yeah, he's
just interesting that that would be the makeup of a jury in
Chicago, a jury of his peers. Well, I guess his peers are
white.
I mean, where you get, you know, you had these disqualifying
questions? Have you heard the story? Feelings? And if you ask
me as a jurist like he's crazy. First of all, you go, you're
going outside that code. This is another this is another general
generalization. And we're talking about irony. As a as a
just severe generalization.
I get to do it in a minute to go, go go. Yeah,
people hate cold weather.
Now. Wait, does this go along with black people really don't
dig swimming?
No, I think that's a new thing. Oh, really? Yes. Because my
father, all my uncles, everybody could swim. Um, just as a quick
story, they would throw you in. It will basically take you to
the waterhole or swimming hall or wherever else, and they would
throw you in. And that's how you learn. That's how you learn. My
brother is deathly afraid of water until he went to the
military. Because my uncle grabbed him and gave him the old
traditional throwing you in him. My dad got a big disrupt over
that. Oh, yeah. So I think this swimming thing, it's more of a
generational thing. But call whether I'm telling you, as a
survey, if you ask any black person, are you going back out
to get some way and this temperature? No. That's a
generalization. But news or we don't do the cold weather got?
hot at all?
I don't either. mobileread me, I don't either.
That's that's, that's too much. So we stopped that it makes no
sense. Let's go ahead and get to the part two of the tour.
This 63 year old retired civil servant says he had never seen
the TV show empire. I knew very little about small lead before
being selected to the jury. I was shocked.
I was completely shocked that I was even picked at that point. I
took it very seriously. He says
he was disappointed to see he was the only black person on the
panel.
How can we say that this is a jury of your peers. There's only
one African American and there were plenty there. So you could
have got 234 African Americans can handle the truth. And we can
give an impartial judgment on a case.
And while he has no doubts about smell, it's guilt. He's still
left with one lingering mystery,
I still have not figured out a motive to why this has even
happened. He was a star
mulatos awaiting his sentencing, he could face up to 15 years in
prison. But the jury says he hopes maletto only gets
probation and that Hollywood gives him a second chance.
Oh, really? About that.
So the jury of the peers thing, I think we need to do a better
job of having peers but as I said before, when they doing
jury picking certain question can disqualify you like, are you
aware of him on Empire that might disqualify a certain
segment of black people? Do you have an opinion on this case? It
was such a huge social media everywhere. Everybody knew about
it. Yeah. Right you for him not to say he didn't know Jussie
Smollett was and he never seen the show that makes him rare,
just amongst black people, because it was kind of that kind
of thing. Like, yeah, we're not rocking with Jesse.
But you're, you're you're correct there I think because
with every other high profile jury selection we've seen it's
been asked racist makeup to many white people. And this one
wasn't all they tried it but I don't think it played the same
way. I think you're right. It's like make it go away. We don't
care. And
nobody wants to be on this jury shuts me because this do you
did? Was anybody really impartial? I mean, they do this
thing. Have you heard about this dude? It's kind of hard not to
hear about this story right so of course a lot of people
probably disqualified themselves with their opinions on the case.
So with that said, so he had what two questions there one Why
did he leave the noose on his neck? So we may need to look
there I'm here maybe not. But this was my answer to start
costar had the same question which I had to answer, I felt
compelled to call him and I was shaking like a leaf on a tree
because naturally, I'm not a public speaker. I'm not afraid
of public speaking. But just like I'm okay, just the first
time being online, you know, that kind of thing. But, um, to
me, I saw as I make Sonic ritual, because part of the
Masonic ritual is to leave a noose around your neck. And that
was my answer to him on the esoteric um Boulais kind of
topic now you brought up the anti lynching bill which that
was explaining it in the in the just know the political round,
but this was some kind of humiliation ritual. I see. And
that was my that was my original take on this case. And then two
he asked why why would he do this and hopefully, and he's
next few sets of clips are accident. So before we get into
you anything you actually want to say no,
I'm good. Let's move forward. Alright, so
now we have to get into Miss Kim Fox and her celebrity ties.
Yeah, Kim Fox is the district attorney. Yes, for for correct,
sir. Oh, sister. Number one.
Yes. No, no,
we're not number one, but she's wanting to win the LG Sora
sisters.
Today we're piecing together Cook County
State's Attorney Kim Fox his connections to certain
celebrities and
CBS to Suzanne lemon yo learned it includes a presidential
candidate
as directly if she is friends with actor Jussie Smollett,
sisters or anyone in the actress family. Cook County State's
Attorney Kim fox said I am not but a fox mentor does have a
connection to the Empire star and his family that Senator and
Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris. In this
January Instagram video, Harris is seen with Smollett and his
sister journey in a time's up rally in Los Angeles. After
small less alleged attack in Chicago Harris tweeted her
support for the Empire star saying small lead is one of the
kindest, most gentle human beings I know. I'm praying for
his quick recovery. After he was charged, she backpedaled on her
support and what she had called and attempted modern day
lynching. Yeah,
there it is.
So camp Kim Fox, is has close ties to Kamala Harris. I think
Kamala Harris ran Kim Fox transition team when she won her
her spot in Chicago politics at the DA Oh, yeah. So they're,
they're close. They're, they're close. Close, which now we
understand who Kim Fox really is the power to da and this is one
of our original conversations. When I when I told you about the
Soros sisters, Mm hmm. And and what they were trying to do
politically. And now we're seeing all mayhem is breaking
loose Three years later, in Nice.
In every single city where there's a Soros sister where the
thrown people back out on the street who belong in jail.
Correct, which, if you want to use that logic, then Jesse
Smollett shouldn't go to jail. You saw?
Totally, of course, have you seen New York by the way, the
new thing state's attorney there or district attorney? Yeah, it's
a dude. Same thing. Like, oh, if it was a weapon, it wasn't a
gun, then it'll just be downgraded. Okay,
I think I'm wrong. Mary was on his way out, Lori Lightfoot was
on her way. And yeah, all of this has, you know, political
implications bigger than Chicago. We're talking about a
mass rollout across the country. revisioning the justice system,
which we talked about justice, is saying at plenty of times on
this show that we're not talking about fairness, or the rule of
law. We're talking about the spirit of justice they'd like to
talk about Yeah, um, so with that said, let's go ahead and
get into the second part of this Kim FOSS celebrity ties.
Fox has long shown her appreciation for Harris on Fox
his Twitter page, she writes of Harris, I would not be where I
am today without her guidance during my first run for
political office, and she has continued to mentor me as I work
to reform the criminal justice system in Cook County. Fox is
often photographed with celebrities. Here on her
Facebook page. She's with Grammy winner John Legend. At an event
about the impact of violence on young people. In this February
28 post, she's with the Reverend Jesse Jackson. Small lead did
his community service at Jackson's Rainbow PUSH
organization. Fox also attended the pre Oscar event for Emily's
list 2019 and was part of the red carpet arrivals here she
seen on Lisa Lynx Instagram. She was also given the 2018
Gabrielle Giffords Rising Star Award by Emily's list of the
organization which supports female candidates for office gay
Fox the award for her commitment to making positive change in her
community. Emily's list also endorsed Kamala Harris for the
Senate. We reached out to Harris for comment. We haven't heard
back live in the newsroom, Suzanne lemon, yo, CBS two news
on the gang is all together.
Yes, the gang is all together. And you heard Kim Fox say her
swell her quote saying Kemal is working with her to reimagine
the justice system. Yes.
It's like, like Disney. we reimagine your reimagine at all.
Yeah, yeah.
And to go to the you know, just the political explanation why he
left a new song. It was the lynching Bill Yeah, well this
lynching thing was laid out let me back up a little bit cuz they
brought up tom toms up as well. Yeah, which Tom's up is
synonymous with who? Oprah Winfrey.
I'm not making the connection.
Okay, Tom's up was Oprah Winfrey. When she came to the
golden Golden Globes. I think it was in 2018 Oh, no, it was maybe
2019 I thought it was the dates not important was that
one is that when they launched time's up and Mulana was out
there and they were all they all had special dress on or
something or
they were all were black guy and okay, yes. All we're activist,
which was the this was a COVID meetup is what it was. Yeah.
Okay. Basically, what they did was hijack me too, and rebrand
it to time. Yes. With with Hollywood people. Yes, that was
the whole point was but with that they she had Tom's up
going, which you heard Jesse Smollett, his sister was part of
that whole push. Yep. So he's active. He's a real activist,
and his sister is to journey which we're going to get into a
little later but and that was the sister communicating with
Kim Fox. Got it, which I see is maybe being one of his one of
his handlers, um, in this whole thing. So we got Tom's up going,
we have the anti lynching bill. But what we have to go back is
one year prior to the rollout of the anti lynching bill, back in
early 2018, we have Oprah Winfrey on 60 minutes. And she
does this. And really, you're going to have to watch the last
tape to get this visual. But let me lay out the visual, they go
inside this memorial to the victims of lynching. And what
they have is these panels hanging from the roof, this kind
of like massage of bodies. And as you walk into it, the room
elevates. So like, it's like the panels are hanging higher and
higher, that pose to be representative of the hanging
people. So it's a very traumatic experience to go into this
memorial. Don't take my word for it. This is Oprah Winfrey, 60
minutes inside a memorial to the victims of lynching.
So you start with them at eye level, and then on this quarter,
they begin to rise. And then you get to this corridor, and this
is when you begin to confront the scale of all of these
lynchings Whoa, this is something Yes, yes, we wanted
people to have a sense of just the scale with this violence
with this terrorism
was so this is over 4000. Yeah, that had been documented. But of
course, there are more 1000s More 1000s More 1000s More, and
we ever even know how many we will never know. Every name has
its own story. Yes,
that's right. This was a minister, Reverend ta Allen, who
began talking to sharecroppers about their rights. And because
he was doing that the plantation owners, the landowners got
together and they, they lynched him. And the proof they use that
he was somebody worthy of lynching is that when they found
his body, he had a piece of paper that talked about
sharecropper rights. And the other piece of paper he had in a
suit jacket was a note that said, every man a king, lot of
these folks were lynched because they showed too much dignity.
They showed too much humanity. He just wanted to be respected
as a human being. And he got him hey,
oh, I have some questions. I'm realizing that I'm just thinking
Okay, I want to understand the triggering of the lynchings for
a Das. Because of course, I grew up and I was educated about the
lynchings and just sitting here listening to what she's saying.
I really have no idea. From a historical perspective, I don't
know exactly when this took place. I don't know. Was it a
certain period? Was there certain reason was it only
sharecroppers was it? You know, I would say that probably. I've
been educated, like, oh, a runaway slaves get lynched. I
really don't know, jack shit about the lynching. And I think
that as a child, when I was taught this, I disassociated
what I saw in the pictures from America from anything that was
even even possible. I'm like, Okay, well, I'm glad that shits
over you, I need a little bit more background on how that is
for you.
Okay, so this is word. Okay. Let me start with the Jussie
Smollett, using the lynching and Oprah and commodity using
lynching. lynching has a very specific traumatic trigger for
black people in America a Das, however you want to label it,
because that was the control mechanism on the plantation or
at least that's the how the narrative goes that you take a
very defiant or disobedient slave, you rope them up and this
is this is plantation so we got to talk about slave doors
slavery, post slavery during slavery, it was used as a
control mechanism on the plantation to say, you take a
defiant slave you rope him up and you hang him. Sometimes you
they will burn dismembered all all the above. They will even
take souvenirs. So that was on the plantation post slavery, it
was still a used as a control mechanism. But it also became a
kind of like a public celebration, which is not I want
to I got a whole nother show. I'm going to talk about lynching
on but I just want to make Oh, okay, good, quick, good. Yeah.
Yeah, cuz it was because it warrants that. They know what
they're doing when they use the term lynching when they put that
rope around his neck, whoever did it when she rose out this
thing,
but if this was to trigger white people, uh huh. I don't think it
works that well. Well, you have to be educated. See, this is the
whole point of the memorial. This is the whole point of
rolling, educate you how bad lynching was. Now, let me make
it clear. lynching was terrible. And they like I said, they will
burn you dismember you. But it was not exclusive to black
people because the law, the rope, the law, the rope, it's
just it's American and predates America going back to English as
one, you know, they hang out to hang people publicly. Okay. That
was the whole point of it was just as
a as an informational data point. As white American in you
know, the East Coast. And of course, i i bopped around, I did
go international school, but the topic was covered. But it really
was never covered in that, to that degree. It was something
that was really messed up. And it happened and we dealt with
and you know, just you can forget about it, because it's
never going to happen again. Does that make any sense? That
if that's the severity of it was never, you know, I never knew
how many this museum museum sounds super interesting. But I
think that you're right. The knowledge is, if we're going to
trigger white people, we got to educate them because they don't
know they don't know shit. Because we don't and they go,
that's the whole point of it. That whole push from Oprah a
year ahead of time a year ahead, right? Yeah, we have to educate
them on this so they can feel the obligation to vote with the
way we want them to vote. And the reason why Jussie Smollett
got such a hard push back, you don't play with lynching for
black people. Even somebody getting a you have to kill me to
get a rope around my neck. Right? That I mean, that's
that's what that another was playing with the story, like the
guy was saying, how do you let them get their rope around his
neck and then to leave his own? And then a further story is he
took it off, and then put it on again? Oh, no, no. I'm triggered
right now to think about the fact that somebody's putting a
rope around my neck, you know, we don't play because what that
is on a human, let's just take it back one step back. When
somebody puts something around your neck that could be a leash,
or to kill you. It's not the human nature. It's that kind of
control over me, just on a human level, but then when you You
been indoctrinated with trauma based entertainment of the
strange fruit from Billie Holiday. With the like, say
every movie has a loose and modern day era of illusions of
hanging, which, like I said, lynching happening and the real
problem with lynching in modern day times was the mob justice
that came along with it. Were that just say, for instance, Oh,
this guy did it. Let's go in, let's do guards, or the sheriff
would pretty much turn the guy over to the mob, they will
string him up right there Judge Jury Executioner, or they will
put pressure on the judge to have a mock trial, basically.
And then let's just go hand in hand him. So that was the real
man, it was more of the like I said, the modern day hanging.
That was the issue because that was new, there is no justice.
There is Ma is mob rule, right. So and, and reason why was
triggered for me is, I'm old enough to know, grandparents on
everything else, and don't go down certain roads, because
black men disappeared on that road. When you go out at night,
um, you travel with somebody else, or you don't even go out
at night. I mean, this, this is your life in your lifetime. In
my lifetime, we had like this going to this corner store,
there was a road that were cut between our house and the corner
store. But you didn't take that dirt road, you better not get
caught on that dirt road, you had to take the long way to the
corner store. And this is like I say I'm born in 1980. So it I
find it very disgusting, that they will use this as a
political tool, or a triggering thing. So that's why it's
also highly risky. I think it's it was a risky strategy to start
with. They overestimated what they could do with this. For all
the reasons we're talking about. You get there's a lot of moving
parts to that to just try and reconfigure the American mind in
a year's time. I think it was week, one
two years, because you I think this was 2018 that Oprah had
this whole Memorial rolling out. But the beauty of the taking the
lint, and I hate to use the word beauty of but politically from
their perspective, the beauty of it was we don't know how many
lynchings happening so we can keep finding more and more cases
in the past. Right? wrong word. Now, if you want something in
the future, as with Jesse, we got to manufacture it's
there. We're really taking a page out of the Holocaust Museum
playbook.
Yes. Got it. It's perpetual victims, where it's now like
with justice or risk. We can't do these hoaxes anymore as
cameras on every corner. Yeah, they're just and there's
tracking of error. So we need something that can be, you know,
repeatable, and that's why I think they took the lynching
Bill aspect of it. And either way you want to look at it,
maybe just Jesse and his sister or his handlers, were like, Hey,
we can throw Comala alley with this whole lynching pokes and it
runs great with her with her initiative just coming down the
line with the engine the anti lynching bill, or somebody put
in a call to say Jesse activate. I don't know I can't speculate
to how that happened. Hey, Jesse
activation time.
Um, so with that said, you heard her jump on the lynchings total
lynching terms in there. We stopped 17 is no bro. Yes. So
let's go ahead and listen to Kamala and her own the faintly
House Floor, discussing the same floors give me the Senate floor
discussing the anti lynching bill.
James Baldwin once said that, quote, not everything that is
faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it
is faced. And that is why we are here again today to face the
history of lynching in this country. From 1882 to 1986, the
United States Congress failed to pass anti lynching legislation
when it had the opportunity more than 200 times. We have an
opportunity once again, to right this wrong and face the ugly
history of lynching in America. And let's recall this stain on
America's history. lynching. It was an act of terror. It was
murder. These were summary executions. Victims of lynching
were dragged out of their homes. They had ropes wrapped around
their necks. They were hanged on trees. In many cases, they were
castrated burned as crowds of people watched and applauded.
And the premise underlying all of these acts was that black
people were not full human beings. According to the Equal
Justice Initiative, lynching was used as an instrument of terror
and intimidation 4084 times during the late 19th and 20th
centuries,
you know, Oprah's number listened to this. This was about
the presidency of the United States of America. Hmm. And
there's this group of people, including Soros. All in on this
all in on Kamala, and we're going to make her and the
Democratic Party and I don't know if till Hills was in on it
the Clintons I don't know if this is just a fraction. But if
if I mean to become president, the power that you have what you
can do, I mean, you could you can address printing trillions
of dollars, you can go to war, all these things. If these
people truly were genuine, and they really wanted to make her
president, they should have hung Jussie Smollett up for real.
That would have worked like real hanging whoops.
But like I said, and with this site with the surveillance state
we live in that's that's the problem. They're trying to
balance two things is one we're living in a surveillance state
which I'm gonna make it clear right now that we're heading
towards another crime bill. Right now. Yeah, this whole
thing the whole
what will what will the yummy what will little yummy who will
be the poster child of the new crime bill?
Well, this the smashing grab? Yes, I
know. I know. Yeah, exactly. It's
completely law. I'm lawlessness, which is being done by people
like Kim Fox. So and it's gonna ratchet up the very thing that
caught Jesse Smollett and his cohorts is increased
surveillance to the point where there'll be robots doing their
surveillance there will be no things riding up and down the
side while we're all
we already have the yeah that'll be for the poor people and as
you stated a long time ago private police is popping up
everywhere private police force and and I know cops here in hill
country who are saying you know, one of my my buddies he wanted
to go back on the force and after the What's your name the
potter trial he said oh, I'm not going back he says good bad or
indifferent if if the city council is the if the mayor if
the if the police chief if no one has your back? Why take the
risk? He says and I can go work for private police force being
pizza all night and make twice as much money
so then you get worse cops Yeah, of
course. More crime devolved. They'll
make they'll make the poor black people in those communities back
for something to happen. And what they're going to give you
is robotic policing. Which is another level to surveillance to
your ring doorbell your ring doorbell will have wheels that's
that's where we're headed but they're gonna make us beg for it
the same way they introduced drugs and 94 more drugs
handcuffed to police now you had the Rodney King thing that
happened that put police on watch or say well I don't really
want to do anything more crime more drugs the next day okay
back from mass incarceration you got it? Yeah mass incarceration
less father's more crime so this whole thing race repeat. Yeah,
there's no nobody's on our side and this whole thing. Do you
think sources on your side? I don't think so. And and as you
said, they don't have the string. Jessie smell it up. They
don't have to mean people or information. Yeah, pat that
people are thinking that he was almost stronger. Which is a it's
even better because he's not a martyr. You see, I'm saying he's
a icon. He's a he's a fighter. He's a rotter. Um, like I said
that that's even better in their eyes. So I guess we can go ahead
and move on to now this is Kim Fox facing calls to resign.
I walked down Chicago let's stay in Chicago to get this story.
Cook County, Illinois District Attorney Kim Fox facing calls
for her resignation after allegedly lying about her
contacts with Jussie Smollett family before she ultimately
dropped the original charges against the actor, Fox said
publicly she stopped talking to small at sister after he became
a suspect but a special prosecutors report finds Fox
continued communicating with her days after let's bring in former
DOJ prosecutor Jim truste. I think this is cool. amazed I
want to read from the retired judge Sheila O'Brien, who said
Kim Fox should resign. This report shows she is a liar that
her administration is in chaos, and that she's blaming everyone
else. She should resign taxpayers are better. And Mrs.
Preckwinkle her mentor should take no part in replacing Fox
Cook County government needs to clean house and basically this
text show that small lead sister and boxer and communication and
Fox says your brother should be fine. As long as he stays
consistent. How does she say in the job after this?
Yeah, maybe only in Cook County? I don't know. I mean, what Kim
Kim Fox is a progressive prosecutor who grew from the
strength of the case to her contact with Jesse sister to
even just the smallest criminal record, they kept saying
publicly, he has no criminal record. He had a DUI with of all
things a false statement to police conviction. That's a
pretty material piece of information that they lied about
it.
Oh, man,
so this is where equity plays into even if he did it and it's
a hoax. Stick to your story. Jesse are juicy. We got you.
You're saying just now when people wonder why juicy is
sticking to story. And seems like he's crazy. Because like we
know, we know what happened. But he's like, No, it didn't happen.
And it's gaslighting. Yeah, is gaslighting to people that know
what happened, or we have surveillance information that
proves what happened. But he's still saying no, I was attacked,
and people information, believe him and just keeps gaslighting.
And they have their hand on the Justice mechanism. So it's like
a witness, you're good. You're just you just keep to your
story. And he's going to come out gold on the other side of
this because to a certain segment of society. He did what
he had to do. He's a hero. He's now what that is, what he did is
a whole nother story or what was done to him. I will leave that
as a cliffhanger. But um, let's go ahead and get into the second
part of this clip.
But the conversation with the sister is astounding to me
because it really walks right up to the line of obstruction of
justice. She's sitting here telling him telling the sister
now that I know he's a suspect as long as he's consistent, as
in keeping with that false story he should be okay. That's an
amazing moment for a public official, a prosecutor to be
coaching,
if you see it that way, and many others see it that way. Why does
the state and the county disagree? I mean, last night
Cook County in Illinois came out with a statement saying we
disagree with the status found against Kim Fox. Why?
Yeah, I don't know what the political loyalties are there. I
mean, Cook County certainly has a I think a well earned
reputation for political mischief. But this is just
outrageous to the citizens of Chicago, you've got a chief law
enforcement officer who is lying over and over again, to cut a
sweetheart deal for a two bit actor just because that's what
she wants to do. It has nothing to do with justice, everything
to do with personal favoritism. And the lies are something that
shouldn't be tolerated. No matter which city you're in, no
matter which State's Attorney's Office, your chief law
enforcement official should not be out there repeatedly lying
about demonstrably false things.
But and the other thing is, what about the breakdown and trust
between police officers out there with their lives on the
line and prosecutors like Kim Fox,
the celebrities, the actors, and a lot of news folks are on
camera in the very early days showing their support for Jesse.
Jesse small lad and maybe Kim Fox was right there with him. We
will see. I see Jim trusty Thank
you No, I listened to that. And I'm I'm so hopeful for America.
But I think we have to go through another round of massive
bullcrap. You may be right about a new crime bill, did it this is
so intentional.
It's textbook it really, their whole was just he was in a great
spot because no matter what he's gonna, he's gonna land in a good
spot. Even if he just took one for the team, you know, they got
the story out there with the distraction. Soros has his
people in all the spots that he mean, this was his plan,
strategic, you know, a takeover of the whole judicial system.
And as they were saying in this clip, they were saying, what
about the distrust between the cops and the DA and between law
and order, right? You have a law being you know, the legal system
and you have order being the law enforcement system. And there's
a there's a wage driven there, which it can turn out any better
for Soros. And when I say Soros, I think the old man has set down
and this is the new this is his son his kid. Yeah, yeah. This is
this. This is a new playbook. It's being played. What's it
what's
it Andy Andrew thing that I think Alex I believe Alex? Yeah.
like Soros, you right, that's
the one we need to keep our eye on. I don't think it's a new
playbook.
I think you're right. He's probably been running it for a
while, actually, I think about it.
Right. And you see that and so before we get into the people
that support him, Jesse, let's get into the people are
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Alright, so now we got our support system out of the way.
Now let's go into the people that was supporting Jesse
Smollett, one being Miss Amanda seal. And she said even if it
was a hoax, that that
Chicago politics is roofless? Okay. This is more about Kim Fox
in that situation. And Jesse, they're just using justice. Come
on. Yeah, there was no victims. They can't really prove it. And
everything was
a hoax. Even if it was a hoax. This is really happening all the
time. And even if it was a host for the sake of bringing
attention to this, then I'm like, That's Loki noble. I'm
just at my wit's end about us. censoring situations like this
and wanting to make people have to pay. And it's like, Emmett
Till's accuser, was a lot is I think she's still alive. Yeah.
And this young man died. And she announced that she was lying
about it. They should have put the shackles on her that day,
and she's walking around. So no one was hurt in this situation.
And nobody, you know what they're mad about their time,
their resources being the money, the taxpayers resources,
taxpayers resources are being used every day to imprison
people who have done nothing but be an addict. So I don't want to
hear Jussie Smollett. Okay. But
people that feel that well, what if I hate crime really happens
to me and now because of what Jesse Smollett is now they don't
believe if
this is this one instance is what makes them not believe you,
baby. That's a lie that they're telling ourselves. We have live
in a nation where they don't believe hate crimes every day.
Wow, what show was this? This was on the real man, that's a
dangerous show.
And you now you hear the power of lynching? Cuz she went and
invoked the biggest name in lynching in modern history is
emitting material. Yeah. And that was her clean all kinda let
me throw Emmett Till's name out here to get people to clap. And
you heard instantly the crowd went along with it. You have to
explain me to you. Well, Emmett Till was a young man that was
vacationing in the South. He allegedly whistled at a white
woman and a mob came to his house, carried him away, killed
him and threw him in a river with a cotton gin fan. him
around his neck. His body was mangled, and you know,
dismembered, but his mother allowed the casket to be open
for his funeral, which that the media ran with that story and
those pictures, and it basically, you know, brought
attention to the problems in the South. Now notice and
let's let's just establish this was the 50s. Right? This is a
long distance
was I think it would think it was earlier than that. I want to
say it was the 20s or 30s If I'm not mistaken, I'm terrible with
dates. Um, let me make sure I get that right. Because that was
part of the great it was great part of the great migration. The
second way let me see. You caught me flat footed here.
Adam. No, 75 Excuse me. What 55 You right? Oh, I
see here in the Wikipedia. Yeah. 55 Okay. Yes.
So I'm only 10 years before I was born 10 years but the reason
why I got confused was there you they use stories like this
lynching image to to drive people out of the south, to the
north, in the Great Migration starting in the 1940s because
they needed us but didn't this happen in Chicago? No, no, no,
no, no, he was. He was actually from Chicago. Oh, but he was
vacationing in this right
right. Oh, I remember he went down that dirt road he didn't
listen.
Well what he what he did was like I said he was he wasn't
aware of the customs of the south and allegedly Western.
That's what she was referring to the white woman should have been
looking for getting it to kill kill. But I want to say this the
reason why wait a minute. Wait.
Yes. The white woman What else does she do besides getting
whistled at?
She said that he whispered to her now story was that he didn't
whistled at her. Um, so it's some gray area there. But the
point I want to make is this is this elective even in 1955 to
select the outrage in the media because at the same time emit
cute to being killed in the south and highly publicized this
as the South was bad witch, I think they're really trying to
drive the black people out of style to get their land away
from by using terror, and drive them into the city centers which
foster the no man in the house, that kind of thing. Replacing
the Father with the status the Father. Um, in the same time,
there was a young man in a public beach, public segregated
beach in Chicago that floated from the black side to the white
side. He was basically stoned and drowned. And nobody's ever
heard their story. So I'm just saying that they say based
electively use and it's something I'll cover in a future
show, I'll mention, but Emmett Till is the trump card when you
want to play it the you know, the lynching hand, and that's
what she did there. Yeah. Which I find very disgusting because,
one, let me just say this Amanda seal is a has a couple of hoaxes
are legit hoaxes under her belt, what she done with a guy named
Myron Rolle, when he was a NFL player and a Rhodes Scholar. And
she outed him basically as a sexual predator, which is not
true. And she did it on Charlemagne to God show. And she
basically, I didn't say his name, but how many NFL players
are row scholars? Not? Right. So you basically said his name, but
then she was later called out for it, but that goes to show
their mentality long because it's for the greater good. Yeah,
they don't care how they use. Um,
they just don't care. They don't care.
They don't they don't care at all. Because you can invoke the
kind of support that she got off of the from the crowd when she
you said Emmett Till nine. That was the you know, to clean it
up. So still, that was what some of the hosting was like. Well, I
don't know about that. Amanda. And she doubled down on the next
clip.
Every single shot.
But I just want to I just want to ask because Jesse is the
like, it is huge nationwide news because he is famous. So if it
was a hoax, what do you think is the correct punishment and do or
do you think he should make a murderer is on probation? Sure.
But I'm asking about Jesse Smollett. I'm asking about that.
Because you said it. Where's Loki? Nobody
literally should be like, he should be applauded. Damn, they
got smacked on the wrist for all these people. And they can't
give a smack on it. Like because they're saying that it's a whole
big thing. I'm just I don't believe it. So when we look at
black men who are constantly getting the book thrown at them
all the time, all the time.
Oh, no. Now the black man is helpful.
When a political football and this is what we saw in 2020. And
she was the one was telling them I don't care. I don't care what
the candidate is she Kate hard for commodities. Just go vote
basically she was the one her Angela Ra was the most vocal
people to force black people to go vote democratic and shaming
shaming tactics or whatnot but so that goes to show you even if
Jesse it is a hoax there are a group of people out there they
see him as a hero and that was the point of that
no no no low key noble low key noble yes great t shirt I love
it
great. That's That's it and but you know what she's also
including herself to say well, if I do a black man under the
bus for being a predator, even if he isn't there are black men
there are predators out there so I'm Loki noble Yeah, so she was
she was even subconsciously I believe letting herself off the
hook for what she's has done in the past but
she's she's already using the the situation that the Soros
sisters have created with this you know slap on the wrist go
home.
What she's using it as the justification Yeah, but they're
the source of the problem. Hello, we don't want martyr
murderers to get slaps on the wrist. That's what that's the
whole problem because whether they live they're not going into
your neighborhood. They're coming back home to the
neighborhoods that you know they terrorized and terrorized right
so it's this this weird thing and they using terror to let
tear off the hook which is a very
very evil evil let's just call it evil
and and a mind screw it's a complete mind screw. So now we
have to get into who are the smell let's have the untold
truth of the smell let family
Jake jazz Jesse Jenny, Jackie and Jojo, a summer stuck in
scandal summer rising stars and all of them are pretty good
cooks. Here's everything you need to know about the smallest
family may have arrived. The smallest siblings are the
children of Joel small at senior, a Russian Polish Jew and
Jeanette Smollett, an African American from New Orleans. The
couple moved around a lot when the kids were young, alternating
between the east and west coast. According to a 2020 interview by
Essence with Jasmine Jake, they relocated between states as many
as 13 times Jeanette small ads and her late husband Joel small
lead senior war activists are rubbed shoulders with everyone
from the cofounders of the Black Panther Party. Civil Rights
leaders day 2016 interview Jussie Smollett told The New
York Times my mom was in the movement with Bobby Seale and
Huey Newton, and one of her first mentors was Julian Bond.
To this day. Angela Davis is one of our dearest friends. We've
spent Mother's Day with Angela, the company that the small apps
like to keep clearly rubbed off on their children because
they've been protesting pretty much the whole life's a calling
to journey. She was five years old when she joined a mom with a
first process. She was out in the streets holding a sign when
the Los Angeles cops who beat Rodney King were acquitted on
assault charges. She told The Hollywood Reporter that she was
even allowed to see the film Malcolm X when it was still in
theaters. As she puts it. My mom would cover our eyes in certain
parts, but she didn't want to share with us from our history.
More recently, the small that siblings have lent their support
to the Black Lives Matter movement by attending marches
and protests AXA Alfre Woodard, who worked with the siblings of
the nonprofit artists for New South Africa, told The New York
Times their sense of justice is very strong, and it permeates
everything that they do.
This is all true.
Yes, the shoulders with the Black Panthers, which and with
all the infiltration going over over there. It's amazing how
these people rub shoulders with the Black Panther. But they're
still free. I wonder how I wonder how that works out. But,
uh, yeah, so you heard they've been activists? Yeah. From the
different there we days. I'm sure they were saying.
It's got lineage man, Jed Jesse's got got homeless. Yeah,
I have that here. Where's that?
Thank you, sir. So we see it's this ilk of so called people
brought up, you know, in the, you know, a system of activism.
From a very early age Kamala being worn by her by her own
testimony. And then we see Jesse and journey, which journey I
think is the bigger star in the family. And I see Jesse being
like the Fredo in the family. Um, he is big. Right? Well, even
then he could never be bigger than his sister. His sister has
a significant a catalogue of stuff. She's starting from a
very early age. What's your name? Johnny Smollett, she was
the black girls that played in full house.
Oh, wow. That
was a Michelle's friend. goes back that far. And then her cat
I mean, she's played opposite of Denzel Washington. Samuel
Jackson um, what's the drawing blanks now out for Alfre
Woodard, what's the other lady's name? To play Tina Turner. I'm
drawing a blank Angela Bassam Angela. Banjo, bass, another.
She played opposite all of these celebrities. So she has chops.
And I think like, she is the real. She's the real star
family.
She's also been a lot of in a lot of, kind of like Vampire a
cultish type TV shows Twilight. Twilight. Oh, yeah,
she's a very dark person. Yeah, very. Which we're going to get
in that maybe in the last tapes of that, of that side. Because a
lot of stuff that wouldn't translate through audio but
right. With that said, let's see. We stopped that.
We had 24. Okay, we're at 24. Ah, yes, Kim Fox and her
buddies.
Yes, let's go ahead and get into that one and find out a new name
in the story.
No one can speak for a woman like a woman.
Despite the public backlash and accusations from as high up as
the mayor that just the smell let's celebrity influence and
power played a role in the charges against him being
dropped. Kim Fox maintains that his case was not treated any
differently than similar cases.
I'm Tina Chen. I am formerly chief of staff to First Lady
Michelle Obama. And I was also the executive director of the
White House Council on Women and Girls for President Obama.
Tina Chen, former chief of staff to Michelle Obama, reached out
to Kim Fox on behalf of the small family saying they have
concerns about the investigation in the exchanges. Fox scene
trying to get the case turned over to the FBI, texting Chen. I
make no guarantees. But I'm trying.
Yeah, this this was a great little piece of the whole story
that never really got the follow up. It's certainly deserved.
Oh, well, we're gonna do it now. So Tina, she and I have to make
this one thing. And when we say stuff like this, we got to be
clear that we do sometimes but we have to be clear. We're not
talking about people personally. But just the optics of people
when the how they're portrayed in the media. Correct. One thing
I've noticed is these women around Michelle Obama, aka big
Mish, I'm very large faces in heads. Kim Fox has a very large
head. Tina Chen has a very low I mean, like, abnormally large.
I'm just saying without saying, um, but let's go ahead and get
into it. Now. I'm just what is like, what is that? I don't I
don't know what
that is, um, could be a lot of things.
I don't know. But um, let's see. So Tina chin, we brought her
into the story. So we let's go back up a little bit. And we
heard about Jurnee Smollett and Jesse Smollett being active in
the time's up. And which time's up with, I believe, is the CO
opting of the me to movement by Oprah. I have some facts later
that you're saying that lends to that analysis. And let's go
ahead and get into the CO opting of the time's up movement. And
then we'll work our way back into the journey smell that
working with the time's up movement.
In 1944 receipt, Taylor was a young wife and a mother. She was
just walking home from church service. She attended and
Abigail Alabama, when she was abducted by six armed white men
raped and left blindfolded by the side of the road, coming
home from church she lived, as we all have lived too many years
in a culture broken by brutally powerful men. For too long women
have not been heard or believed if they dared to speak their
truth to the power of those men. But their time is up.
I just hope that Rishi Taylor died knowing that her truth,
like the truth of so many other women who were tormented in
those years, and even now tormented goes marching on. It
was somewhere in Rosa Parks is hard, almost 11 years later when
she made the decision to stay seated on that bus in
Montgomery. And it's here with every woman who chooses to say
me to every man, every man who chooses to listen, The New Day
is on the horizon. And when that new day finally dawns. It will
be because of a lot of magnificent women, many of whom
are right here in this room tonight. Some pretty phenomenal
men fighting hard to make sure that they become the leaders who
take us to the time when nobody ever has to say, Me, too. Again
so yeah, so nobody was saying me to again, I think this was the
CO opting of the me to movement, sort of how Black Lives Matter
co opted the grass moot grass root movement of a das slash
foundational black 100% was 100% was Oprah coming in cleaning up
because you know, you had to max Maxwell Julie Maxwell case, if I
pronounced that right. Also Harvey Weinstein, every theme,
everything was lingering out there. Like we can't have this
grass roots out here. Let's
go ahead and switch gears from me too. Yeah. And it was up and
we'd be in a position of control and it was Alyssa Milano whose
husband is an agent at the big agency William Morris. I think
so it was a lot of William Morris clients and people Oh, it
was very managed very manage.
So much so that seal a came out and use the mean to criticize
Oprah and time's up.
After Oprah speech at the Golden Globes, people have tried to
make the claim that she knew about Harvey Weinstein's
criminal acts, even the singer Ciel share this meme, which has
photos of Oprah and Harvey together, and it says, when you
have been part of the problem for decades, but suddenly they
all think you are
the solution. That seems like a pretty direct dig at Oprah. No,
it really is. And those photos, yes, we also wrote why I forgot.
That's right. You heard the rumors, but had no idea who was
actually Searly assaulting young starry eyed actresses who in
turn had no idea what they were getting into my bad. But wait,
sanctimonious Hollywood that's the hashtag right there. Sure.
Long hashtag but
now, he still says he wasn't dissing Oprah that Oh, come on.
That's
what she'll say. He's not sure my hashtag.
But now, he still says he wasn't listening. Oh. Come on.
Amanda has spent everything that Oprah has achieved and
contributed in her life. What I reposted was not an attack on
Oprah at all. She just happened to be the person photographed
with the pig in the picture. Know, what I reposted was
commentary on the hypocritical and double standard nature and
behavior of Hollywood. So Fox News back off. Don't try and use
me as a pawn against Oprah. And in any of your political games
and Stacey Dash. Keep my name out of your mouth. Do not
retweet, re quote. Anything I have said in order to reinforce
your self hating agenda. You live in the sunken place. Again,
this was not an attack against Oprah.
Wow. You know, I you rarely hear seal speak. And seal was a cool
dude. You know, it's like just to see those like, yeah, cool
man. Supermodel and she I divorced her neither. You know,
just like Oh, man. And now you hear him talk like that. guy
loses cool points.
That phone you see now really powerful. That phone is very
powerful. Boulais meme. The meme he posted had Oprah it's a very
famous picture of Oprah. With with Harvey Weinstein actress,
and Harvey Weinstein, like he's, she's basically handing this
actress over. You go hard handed, like type thing. So how
can you get that confused? But then he does his pivot chicken
squat kind of thing. It's not it's not a pivot. He does his
chicken squat kind of thing to say, to try to pick on Stacey
Dash, which they love to keep these people around. I'm not
taking a station dead cuz she has her own issues that she's
dealing with. And she does. She is opportunities, you know,
saying to win brownie points with the conservative side
whenever she can, but to say are you live in the sunken place,
basically saying that is a throwback to the movie. Get out.
When the white person took over the black person's body and the
black actor would go into the sunken place. We had no control.
That's what he's alluding.
Oh, that's it. That's it. That's a pretty good slam. I hadn't
heard that. I didn't. I didn't catch that. Okay,
this is a backhanded way to saying you're controlled by
white people. So that's what he's saying.
Has anyone else use that haters? Well as anyone else use that
term, whenever you
hear that term sucking place that is a allusion to the movie.
Okay, and it's spoiler alert in the plot of the movie I've seen
people yeah so you get the point in that that's like you're being
co opted on a on a biological personal level and that's what
he did and I think it's very chicken squat because it's like
bro you don't have you you know what you said you got the call
you had the backup offer but they say you want some more scar
steel. You're saying you better get right. Wow, I'm sorry. Oh,
sorry. Bro, that's how they don't get it twisted. To get a
man Yes.
Okay, but that's but that's my point. Why did the Boulais not
just actually string Jesse up? It would have worked.
No, it's messy. If you do it that way. You got dead bodies.
You got cameras. You got this thing? 1964 in Canada no more.
You everything is gonna be psyops. Yeah, true. This is like
the birth
of prayer. The good old guys who just hang someone up and just do
it for real to make a point.
Well, no, it's systematic now. And that's the whole point I've
been trying to make out of 73 episodes. It's no more stringing
up systems.
It's just using trauma using trauma using information and
media to do it.
Well, we saw it happen to see you. Yeah, it's like standing
your nightstand you'll stay in line boy. You better stay in
line. You're saying that those are the lynch mob now it to make
a man of his stature physically. And you're saying financially
and celebrity to not only backtrack, but he did a
disgusting way to do it to say, I wasn't talking about Oprah.
You just twisted my word brother. No.
I was reposting. I was reposting you don't understand a retweet
is not my opinion.
Right bullcrap. Ah. So that's seal his Boulay phone moment.
But now we're gonna get into Tina Chen and Michelle Obama's
former chief of staff, and she announces her new position at
times up.
Times up movement came to life nearly two years ago when more
than 300 powerful women in Hollywood took a stand against
sexual harassment in the workplace. Its mission is to
ensure equity and safety in the workplace across all industries.
It's responding to survivors who came forward through the me to
movement.
CBS Corporation donated $20 million dollars last year to
advocacy groups working to end sexual harassment in the
workplace, including time's up. Only on CBS This Morning. Time's
up as announcing the organization's new leader. There
she is here at the table. Just slipping in like she's co
founder of Time's Up Legal Defense Fund and the former
chief of staff to First Lady Michelle Obama. Tina Chen joins
us first on CBS This Morning. Congratulations and welcome.
Thank you. Thank you. I could not be more thrilled to be able
to take this job. Why are
you thrilled because there's been a couple of hiccups. You
know, they're, they're four months ago, we had to make a
change at the top and now you are here. What's your biggest
challenge? I want to know why you're so thrilled I saw you
back when you were getting ready. And thrilled would be the
word to describe you the world's
third alternative gal. I've been living these issues my whole
life. I've been a single working mom my entire career working in
places like law firms and the White House. So I've seen the
issues that women confront in workplaces and advocating for
policy change that just a couple of weeks ago, folks from time's
up were with Governor Cuomo when he signed the New York safety
agenda that changed laws here in New York know to help protect
victims of sexual assault.
Ah, okay, okay. Okay, hold on. Hold on a second. So first of
all, Oh, wow. That was so the the shake up was I didn't
realize that. Kaplan was was the CEO of Time's up.
Yep. Oh, it had to go and they bring it to machine
cheese. And what's interesting is that they're they're like,
this is some kind of award like Oh, congratulations is so great.
So Phantom, I got to look into this group. Is this a nonprofit?
Or do we is there any This is a curry cash investigation must
commence on this.
Drop course you're gonna I'm gonna need to carry cash check.
ASAP on this. Yeah, um, but yeah, and now we get to listen
to Tina Chan. And Jurnee Smollett, do their mind control
of these poor women and this was at the United State of Women's
Summit. And back in 2018. It's a long clip like I said before, a
to two minutes and 16 seconds. Oh, stop. Feel free to stop
where you want.
Please welcome Tina Chen and journeys smilax
Hello everyone. Tina, this is so amazing. Thank you look at these
beautiful people. Okay, so time's up time's up time's up.
It's it's a global movement it's a little over 100 days. Oh, is
all across the globe it's leaderless. Its recent here
links not ranked. Okay, so tell me
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa okay, it's not
a global movement. Everyone still says Me too. Me too all
over the world. Not time's up. Did she say leaderless?
leaderless? As we're we're relinked not ranked.
Ooh, that's a good. That's a nice line.
That's a great line. Um, but leaderless. We've already made
clear who the leader is OPRAH Yeah, Oprah's goal was to say
what no woman would have to ever say me too, again. Is that a
double meaning to that term? To say they'll start saying time's
up. Oh, are you trying to eradicate the whole sexual
harassment and sexual assault culture? Either one works or
works?
Oh, man. It's a little over 100 days. Oh, there it is. All
across the globe. It's leaderless. It's real recent
here. Length not ranked. Okay, so tell us what's next.
What's next. So what's next is let's start with talking about
the time's up Legal Defense Fund, yes, $21 million per day.
Over 2500 People have come to us for help 2500 In less than 100
day over just over 100 days. Two thirds of them identify as low
income. They are across 60 different industries. And they
are saying things to us like for the first time I feel brave. For
the first time someone's listened to my story. So what's
next is we got to keep pushing on the Legal Defense Fund, go to
the National Women's Law Center's website home of the
time's up Legal Defense Fund, and wlc.org. If you need help,
you can find it there. If you are a lawyer, or public
relations expert, you can volunteer there. And if you're
none of those things, you can support it by finding more
money. hold a fundraiser in your local books book, your book
group, your school, your neighborhood to support the
time's up Legal Defense Fund and keep speaking out and supporting
everyone in their workplace because time's up, we are going
to create safe and dignified workplaces for everyone. That's
our our mission work with.
Okay, and this is rather interesting, because the time's
up Legal Defense Fund is a part of something it's not it's not
its own entity. Is something much bigger than National
Women's Law Center. Yes. So this is a
mammography $1 million in 100
days. Oh, but these, this group has a lot more than that. This
group is much bigger. So this this is kind of like be like
Austin, Austin Legal Defense Fund or Austin black artists
defense fund or some shit like that in and you and you donate
money and it doesn't go to them and goes to the prison reform.
Nonprofit in Houston that's not doing something for artists in
Austin. And they don't they don't even get a hold that I'm
just looking at this end. wlc.org It's this is huge. This
is a big thing. This is real money here.
I'll repeat again. $21 million. That's nothing. 100 days,
nothing compared to what these people are capable of.
Yeah, but they put it plucked out of thin air. It's like
time's up. They co opted to move the me to movement. And I have
to say this right now. To the whales out there. I know you
listening whales come close to whales. Oh, we need this kind of
money. If they can get 21 million 100 days come on now.
They have 20 So for their 2020 Numbers 2020 Numbers $68
million.
If that's my point this this was just in 100 days. Yeah, a whole
new operation. obrah goes online and says Tom's mesto. So
this is this is before this is before the 21 million. Yes.
This is 2018 We're talking about this this this this before they
even got there You know, got their feet under right under,
right and then and then an army of lawyers as well. But they're
doing the same thing if you're a lawyer, come on and donate your
time. Donate your talent. Yeah, that's what they're saying tune.
This thing has been around since 2014. And they say they started
off with the with 10 million bucks. This is big is a big, big
Goldman Sachs people on here. Oh, okay. Well, thanks. I gotta
go look at these jamokes Well,
let's get into Jurnee Smollett activism now, and this is her
talking to Jamil Hill, about the path for me I shall actor to me
activists?
Was there something that you saw or experienced in South Africa
that where this light bulb went off? So many things, you know,
I'd been volunteering with his nonprofit called artists for New
South Africa since I was 12. And it was, you know, I was inspired
by so many people. I mean, my mom is an activist. So I come
from that spirit, there was going to be no other option, but
to be active in my family, right. But watching my village,
you know, I had this village of mentors who were artists and
activists like Samuel L. Jackson and Alfre Woodard, and Blair
Underwood, and LaTanya Richardson, you know, these
people who, you know, were as active in front of the cameras,
they were off, you know, and were really able to use their
platform in any way they could to be changemakers. And so I was
their youngest board member, and they were taking a delegation
of, you know, them and a bunch of other folks were going to
South Africa to build some wells in some of the townships and,
you know, just do more on the ground work. And how was broke?
I mean, there was no chance in hell, my broke ass, you know, I
was gonna be able to go, you know, like, my family. We grew
up so hard, okay, like, you don't matter if we were on TV or
not like we have real real poverty issues.
All right. All right. All right. Couple things. One, she sounds
just like Camela. That last bit there this replay this last
couple of seconds here, groundwork? In fact, it's when
she code switches when she when she goes, You know, I'm tired.
And I was broke. I mean, no chance in hell, my broke ass,
you know, was gonna be able to go. Okay, like,
okay, that's one, two, when you're doing work in South
Africa, the people who were suppressed in South Africa, the
white people, so I'm not sure who she's helping.
There's this, this small thing? Well, we got to go back. We got
it. Was it? What's the thing called Race? Something? Was the
reconciliation and in South Africa? Yeah. What's the thing
called? I'm racing reconciliate reconciliation or something like
that? Oh, they took
away the white farmers farms.
Hello. That's what they want to do here. Yeah, that's the
groundwork. That's the groundwork. We put us in Wales
and some other groundwork, you know. Yeah. That's what that's
that's where they go to do these tests runs it to come back with
the, the communist ideas that they have, um, and run them
here. And with that said, let's go ahead and get into doo doo
doo doo doo. Okay, speaking of communist, okay, now, I gotta
set this clip up. Right. So Jurnee Smollett, played in this
movie, called The Great Debaters with Denzel Washington and
Forrest Whitaker, it I think was produced or either funded by
Oprah. Um, and it's about this, um, the black debate team at
this rule. HBCU and Dinsdale places kind of a change agent.
And I'll let him explain his role more but let's not think I
set it up well, so let's go ahead and get into the Great
Debaters clip. Jesus was a radical octapharma gratulations
No, thank you. You have put us on the map.
Well, the sun is doing a great job. His research is impeccable.
That's good to hear. God. Listen.
There are people around town one very happy with off campus
activities. Calling your wreck the fact that wouldn't be a bit
surprised to find out a morning when I woke up and she was
strung up to tree
I'd have to catch me first. is serious. They're serious. A
hungry Negro steals a chicken he goes to jail. A rich businessman
steals bonds he goes to Congress. I think that's wrong.
That makes me a radical, a socialist, a communist.
So Jesus was a radical, careful. Yes, he was just was a radical
middle institutions are filled with people who have confused
themselves with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ now. You know what
words do okay? Come on now. Amen. Not confused, I'm
convinced. I'm not.
I'm not judging you.
I'm just concerned about your methods.
I haven't seen this movie. And now I do not want to see
it. So now you hear the politics infiltrating the art. Oh, yeah.
And once again, this was, I believe, produced by Oprah
starring Johnny Smollett. And to bring Oprah back into it, I had
to go back. But let's go back to clip number 16. Probably because
you're flat footed. And listen to me the last 30 seconds.
Because what he's being accused of, let me just by you looking
for that clip guys playing I'm good. Okay, let me explain.
explain to you why I'm bringing this up. Dimmesdale was a
professor. But at the same time, he was having these meetings at
night with the farmers trying to get them to unionize. And, um,
you know, basically communist ideas, right, for right or
wrong. I mean, however you want to look at it. But let's go back
and play and I think maybe last 30 seconds or 16. And you see
where I'm going with this?
And because he was doing that, the plantation owners the back,
the back
or the back? Yeah, just a little bit.
Its own story. Yes, that's right. This was a minister,
Reverend ta Allen, who began talking to sharecroppers about
their rights. And because he was doing that the plantation
owners, the landowners got together and they, they lynched
him. And the proof they use that he was somebody worthy of
lynching is that when they found his body, he had a piece of
paper that talked about sharecropper rights. And the
other piece of paper he had in a suit jacket was a note that
said, every man a king, lot of these folks, were lynched
because they showed too much dignity. They showed too much
humanity. He just wanted to be respected as a human being. And
they got him hang
every man a king.
Yeah, but no, but he was he was actually lynched. Yeah, for
trying to unionize, organize the, the farmers in the south,
which den Zales character in The Great Debaters with doing the
same thing? And he does why he says you can call me a
socialist, a communist whatever, right? Jesus, Jesus Christ was a
radical. So they're basically to plan this out, which takes us
back to show 43. And how communism brought rat racial
equality to the south.
How did you get interested in this topic? And as I mentioned,
it is a sensitive topic, because there are those for decades
who've worked to tamp down the suggestion that anybody in the
civil rights movement was attracted to the Communist Party
at all.
Exactly. And this is a story that actually predates the civil
rights movement as we know it. Going back to the 1930s. I
became interested in this as a doctoral dissertation back in
the mid 80s, when I was very active in a lot of social
movements in the LA area. And I wanted to know how the communist
party organized African Americans, particularly in
places where black people were the majority. And there I
discovered a very vibrant movement that very few people
wrote about the basic were two stories, one memoir by a man
named Jose Hudson. And then another story in a book called
all God's dangers, which is about him, an African American
sharecropper,
ages, the life of Nate Shaw, I
remember that exactly, but his real name was Ned Cobb. Michelle
was a pseudonym. And it's a beautiful book that tells his
life story, only a portion of it deals with his membership in the
communist led sharecroppers union, which at one point, had
about 12,000 members in the black belt counties of Alabama,
and we're all the members black. Well, in Alabama, there was a
point when basically all the members except one were all
African American sharecroppers, and tenant farmers.
I remember this, I remember this episode now. And it's like,
because it was I think we probably talked about this
during the BLM riots. Yes, maybe around that time and to learn
that the communist message was was used to organize blacks in
the South. And the same communist message is organizing
the Black Lives, Black Lives Matter movement, the political
movement, just that's just, you know, like, how long have they
been putting all this stuff together?
It never stops. Doesn't it? Just keep on
building building blocks, building blocks, maybe this time
it'll work.
They get knocked down, they go back they read forest and
reformulate the plant and they come back again. Now that's the
whole point. And for this movie to be made, I think the Great
Debaters are maybe 2015. If I'm not mistaken, somewhere around
in there, it was
early to mid 2007,
excuse me, it was early in, in pre Obama, four, for them to
come out openly. And they say that line, you can call me a
communist, or a socialist. That was a that was a whole big deal,
because as you heard in the last clip, associated with communism
was a very sociate, the civil rights movement with communism
was very standoffish. But the
the timing works quite well, actually. Now, yeah. Could this
not have been some predictive programming getting everybody
ready for the community organizer to come in? In 2008?
Exactly. So you're gonna hear things like, just to add to your
points, as you added, I'm open or home, you're gonna hear
anything about this guy and him having social ties, socialist
ties, or communist ideas, but you know, what, you know, it
was, you know, their civil rights move is really based in
communism, if you look, it was it was a changing of the times.
And this is the same thing now of a session is changing of the
times of what we're saying here. So, yeah, so I just wanted to
point that out. That was the Oprah once again, she set this
whole thing up for commodities she had the lynching she had the
meeting was wrapped up and you're saying nice little bow on
it. All. All Kamal had to do was hit her spots and hit her lines
and she
literally could could not didn't know her lines and couldn't stop
bumping into the furniture. The two rules you need to know as an
actor.
Yeah. Just let it soak in it. Joe Biden is a better
presidential candidate in a hurry. Yeah. That's all you need
to know about. You're saying who they were trying to drag across
the finish line. So with that said, we heard Tim and chin
bring up count on Cuomo.
Yes, this is a good little piece that never got highlighted, of
course. 29
It's been almost a month since New York Governor Andrew Cuomo
announced he would resign after a report by the State Attorney
General's Office found he sexually harassed multiple
women. Since then, a cascade of firings and resignations have
brought down leaders of the women's movement caught in Comos
orbit. On Monday, Alfonso David was fired as president of the
Human Rights Campaign that follows resignations by Tina
Chen, the chief executive at times up an organization focused
on supporting women in the workplace, along with Roberta
Kaplan at the times up Legal Defense Fund, and a number of
the group's board members all laughed after revelation that
they had advised Kormos team on how to respond to the
allegations. The news raises questions about the progress of
the me to movement and where to go from here nearly four years
after the hashtag went viral in 2017.
Wow, that's right I didn't know about this. Yeah, we're too busy
with you know the the COVID people dying business but yeah.
Oh my goodness, a complete front organization to actually protect
protect the assholes.
And we saw this with Lisa Bloom glory already already Queens
daughter where her mom was running the Bill Cosby women's
movement, Operation operation getting that team together.
While on the back side she was given hobby one when I say she
I'm talking about Lisa Bloom giving give your rich daughter
at least a bloom was giving Weinstein advice in the back in
so this is my issue with the whole situation that it was on
the face value. You can say okay, I'm all for it. But it's
always a scam. It's always it's always gonna come in hijack. You
know, I see
it differently. I see it differently. The wheels were
coming off the party train, and they needed to have a counter
vehicle. These people were advising people these are
lawyers. This is a lawyer Legal Defense Fund. It's a it's under
the Women's Law Center. They were advising the actual
predators. That's why this group exists. It's It wasn't even to
hijack it. It was to hijack it was to protect and defend
it. That's my point to hijack it to protect and defend like this
means two things. There's something in the wild that you
can't control. Yeah, no, no, no, we got to get on the same thing
with a DOS. Yeah, no, no, we can't have a DOS out here
floating around or foundational blacks. We can't have that
floating around in the wild. We need black lives matter. So what
do you do you call them box? Yeah, um, And then you bring in
black lives matter because they have the greater works that
they're working on here. And nothing is standing in the way
even you know, even if it's Loki noble. So But Tina chin just
says, You know what? It's a blind spot?
Oh, yes, of course, an office that wanted to do the right
thing in responding to, you know, survivors coming forward,
they wanted to do the very opposite, which was to go after
survivors to try to denigrate their stories to try to put a
lid on this. That is the entire opposite of what I thought it
was dealing with and why I would have actually ever even offered
advice in that circumstance. And I would you know, also say what
I think is revealed in The New York Attorney General's report
is apparently we were being used as cover right we were being
used to say times up is you know, is is working with us on
this, which we never were.
Wow, like she didn't know that. Oh, wow. Oh, man. What a phony.
She's just a dumb lady. You know, just I was used,
oh, the abusers abuse by the abuse ease and that was abused
to
another victim of Cuomo. That's all that's all it is, of course.
So that's why not just be self important. But these
conversations, peel back the layers off of you here. Jussie
Smollett, you think you know what's going on but there's so
many missing moving pieces. There's propping him up and
other side knows that they know that okay, we keep the attack on
Jesse. We keep doing story of the soil sisters. in play. We
keep all you know, like I said they even they said it was about
more about Kim Fox and Jussie Smollett, but it's more about
these days and the power they have and the division has
happened between the law and order. Yeah, yeah. forcement. So
both sides understand this. So very interesting. So this is why
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Alright, so we thought the third rail with them minimalizing our
trivializing lynching. Well, there's one person, there's
another third rail in the so called black community that you
don't play with. And that's to pop. Oh, and when Jesse called
himself the gay Tupac Yeah, that's when he jumped the shark.
And I don't know who's handling him. But take his phone away
from his Leelee
the same person who's handling Comala it has the same
instructions, just whatever it is just used to park they love
to park to park always works.
And that's why he makes the perfect mascot. Our records are
representative for this whole debacle of this 2020 campaign
for Kamala Harris because when he came out and said this, even
Charlemagne to God guard excuse me, had a panther veto. Right, I
have two takes I have one for when it first happened. And then
he goes back and does want a recent update. And like a few
months ago. So let's go ahead and get into number 32. First,
this is the first one
I have right now Jesse Smollett has performed after being
attacked. On Tuesday he performed on Saturday he said I
had to be here tonight check it out.
I went to the doctor immediately drove me I was not hospitalized.
Both my doctors in LA and Chicago community to perform to
take care obviously, and above all.
So this was in LA and he did address the incident in Chicago.
He told the crowd that he's okay. Investigating
know why justice lawyer doesn't want him to talk. Also want to
know why Jessie was reading those points that he made on the
stage off the paper. And I want to know what the hell Tupac got
to do with any of this. Okay, that seemed like a line straight
out of empire. I'm the gay Tupac. I mean, I get around
would have been a totally different record of Tupac was
gay by the way. Wow, do you want it chop your head up would have
been a totally different.
Same idea. But I'm glad I'm glad that Jesse Smollett. And I'm
glad that he went on stage and performed not letting this
incident hold him back.
So, so you can hear you don't play with two pots name? No,
that's why they invoke it the way they do because they know
there is a I don't think there's any fan base as loyal and
fervent as to pox fans across racial divides to generational
divides racial divides. I'm telling you and that two part
thing that is the rabbit hole of all rabbit holes that I don't
even feel qualified enough to to to venture down just yet because
Whoo, we got to have that thing. I mean, even to his death people
think to this day he's alive. Oh, yeah. I mean, so that lets
you know is is fascinating know that the fanned the fandom
around that and that thing, just he want to tap into that to say,
you know, I need fans like him. And you heard the fans reply
when he said it when he said, you know, saying I'm gonna gay
to pop up, right? They ate it up with spoons. So that was the
original Take anything you want to say before we get into the
No, no. No. So this is Charlemagne to God again. And
this is a few months ago speaking on Jesse Smollett being
the gay to pop
my guy, former empire star Jussie Smollett, aka the self
proclaimed gay to pocket. Gay Tupac is a great name because
just his career is as It's alive. It's two pockets. Wow.
Wow. It just depends what you believe he could be alive could
be alive. All right. Jesse is on trial for allegedly Jamal Lyon
about a hate crime attack in 2019. Okay, if convicted, he
could face up to three
for allegedly What did he say? Jamal Lyon.
Allegedly Jamal Jamal Lyon has his character on in PA okay. Let
me let me stop where we stopped here was very politicized, and
very demonizing a black man the way he was treated by his
father. I'll just leave it that but he was even in that show. He
was used as a political tool.
It just depends what you believe. It couldn't be alive it
could be alive. All right. Jesse is on trial for allegedly Jamal
Lyon about a hate crime attack in 2019 okay if convicted he
could face up to three years in prison and I'm calling bullshit
on net. Alright dropped the charges give him probation but
three years in prison. All right. This wasn't a hoax. Just
method acting gone wrong. Right. So what he told a little white
lie to the police who doesn't lie to the police. Y'all lie to
the police. All right. And I can hear some of y'all now. Well, he
didn't just lie to the police. He lied to the black community.
Maybe. But what? Don't lie to his community. Okay. Sometimes
we make up shit for entertainment purposes. Neither
do I make up shit all the time. All the time. Okay, but for
entertainment purposes. All right. Hey, Jesse. Gay Tupac.
Keep your head up. Now
Alright, so you heard the crowd? Yeah. You know that thing? Say
Is it too soon. 1996 is still too soon to make a two part dev
joke. Especially in the town that we live in where you know
people are not even worn it's still warm. And people make
jokes about him. But you don't you don't play with that to Pac
Man. So I just wanted to give that perspective of it yeah, um
but so we didn't we have to ask the question is just the smart
dismisses report. What are you doing?
Ah, man. All right. I know where this is going. Yet you did it
again. See? After 73 episodes now as I can see the end like I
can see it just before it gets hit in the face. You guys
haven't seen it yet. But because I remember episodes, episodes
episodes. Okay, I know what this is great. Man. Man. This brings
it full circle.
You smell it the gay two part question mark 34.
One morning, I'm pleased tonight to a phony shockers apartment
and arrested her. All the other members of her cell were also
arrested. They were charged with what the government said was a
giant plan to destroy those elements of society, which the
defendants call the power structure included attacking
police stations and planning to bomb five large department
stores and the Bronx botanical gardens. They became known as
the Panther 21. Their trial was held in a state of paranoia
about further attacks by the Panthers. Russo caused a
sensation when it was revealed that three of the founding
members of the group had been undercover police officers. What
was strange was that some of those officers seemed to have
been unaware that there were other undercover agents in the
South. Oh man,
two talks to Cox mom with a Black Panther was a black
panther. And so Wait a minute. Is there some some system that
takes radical parents and has them brainwash their kids into
becoming activists? I mean, Betty is a Betty shikar And mine
is that her first name Betty No.
Fany Athena cool. I
think Nisha couture, with Tupac. And then Jessie's mom, what was
her name?
Ah, what was her name? Once again. Anyway. Got the
same face. Same Panthers. Yes, same people, same Panthers, to
park to park.
Whoa, Mama's walking free. The same way as a finish of course
walking free. So
wait a minute. How does this work? Okay, well, we'll play the
next clip and I have some questions.
Yeah, the most active members of the group. We had to organize
everything. One of the undercover agents explained at
the trial, because everyone else in the group was off doing what
they called their own shit.
The prosecution claimed that the group had been inspired by
violent revolutionary propaganda. And in particular,
by the film The Battle of Algiers, made about the Algerian
struggle against French colonialism. To shoot the film
in the court, unlike all the other Panthers, a phony Shakur
chose to defend herself. And at the end of the trial, she cross
examined the leading undercover agent. He was the man she had
suspected from stopped, he had washed it down. His real name
was Ralph white. A journalist who was in the courtroom, wrote
a book that described what happened. She started by getting
white to admit that really most of the inspiration for the plots
came from the undercover agents. Not only have they continually
pushed for the violence, and suggested the targets, but they
had also arranged by the dynamite of yet another
undercover agent. They had also arranged for the cars to
transport the dynamite that really, the plot to attack
America had been created and driven by the American
authorities.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It was a repeat an exact repeat the
American government, probably some former members, the Obamas
all these people. They set it all up. And they used to Jessie
and pivoted off of his mom's affiliation with Feeny. She
might even just be a wannabe. Oh, yeah. Black Panther. Oh,
good. I'll get my son to be like his son like her son.
Yeah, well, I mean, my other question is, as I said that the
the panels was full of agents, agents. Yes. Yeah. So how's
How's genetics my lead? Walking around free woman? Yeah. The
same way to finish your core now this store would have finished
the court now a lot of people don't get mad at me but at least
what it is eight month old me I see my eight month pregnant
woman going against the legal system. And she wins against I
think that's 150 some cases, Rico charges and a beat them
all. Yeah. Hoover me Hoover. I mean, Hoover could find so
anything to get you home. I mean, we're okay, fast forward
now. No, no, but what's the what's the biggest thing lied to
the FBI?
Right? Yeah. I gotta ask you a question though. Yes. Because
this does beg the question about Tupac. Oh,
you tried to get my phone to ring he refer
now but we don't obviously we don't have to get into it. But
it raises some significant questions.
I want to point out not because I'm afraid to broach the
subject. But I'm going to point back to the crowd when
Charlemagne to God made the hard made the to pop joke. Yeah. That
this is for real. I'm like yes, I've seen people fight. We've
seen whole Coast, East Coast West Coast beef. People that
didn't know to pop or Biggie threaten each other. shoot each
other all around surrounding to pop in there. Like I said that
two part rabbit hole. I went down and pre internet makers I
mean, me all the information. I want to say pre internet but the
early stages of the internet, that rabbit hole doesn't stop.
Right? Because
yeah, you may you may not want to go down and but but but the
question it asks is was to pox message the messages he was
giving? Was it Was he being nudged
it well say this is very fitting. When you look at the
crime bill that came in 1994
Oh my god.
If were fitting because two pocket
six, right, he was he was shot 96
He did this he did this pivot, um, that he was you know, the
Black Panther, you know, the No, radical revolutionary. Then he
went to a drug dealer a thug. Right. Right. What and the thing
was he was signed to Interscope pre death row. See, everybody
thinks he went to death row when when he got into trouble and
went to jail. And they got him out. No, no, he was signed to
Despereaux and me, excuse me. And what's the what's to do
guy's name is Jimmy IV. He was signed to him in 91. Corona, I'm
not afraid to broach that subject at all. But when you
open that can of worms, everything starts to destabilize
the whole you know, what was the plan with using Tupac and
Biggie? Yeah, what were you saying? What like, what was the
impact to the crime bill? Like, we took a guy like I was a Tupac
fan, pre death fro and I was kind of very um, I still liked
his music, but I was discouraged by the message change. It's like
one you're talking about your mom being crack theme and you
know, right. Drugs, everything on the community. Now you Moving
keys and you're saying and you as you're saying this shoot
other black people kind of thing and this, and I must say this to
pop, believe that he was the characters that he was playing
in movies. The same way maybe Jussie Smollett believe the
character that he was playing on Empire. So, Is he gay to pot?
Yes. And what?
Yeah, we even had to put the premises of gay to park in front
of to bow just,
yeah, well,
I'm just gonna leave it there. Because I'm gonna we're gonna
get a lot of fair letters on this one, but it is what it is.
Cuz we're gonna go pay attention to everything. And once they
everything. There's some damning information out here.
But what's interesting is being able to use this, as you say, I
mean, we're stuck in my mind is the crime bill. That because
usually when these things fail, the machine is still working to
the crime bill may still be coming. But maybe maybe the the
new version of the crime bill is billed back better. Because he
is that yeah, okay, maybe what am I saying? Yeah, but we don't
have so we had to we had to throw it over to black voting
rights. Because we don't have enough lynching shit out there.
Jesse failed. bill fails. They'll get pieces through I'm
sure But Pa. So that was the whole setup was camallo for
President we get the lynching shit going we get we get our
version of the crime bill, which is not locking up locking people
up yet first, we let everybody go. Then we come back later.
Round them all up.
Wait, no, no, not round him up. You're not gonna be locked out.
You're gonna be locked in. That's the difference. You're
gonna be locked in the comfort of your own home. We don't need
mass prisons anymore. It's good. Where's your papers? That kind
of thing. Right? Are you justified? I mean, now we got
Yeah, you're allowed to be on the street. Yep. Yep. We got the
QR codes. We got the passport. We got the papers, please. Yes.
Are you allowed to be on the street, it'll scan you from the
from the lamppost.
And they're going to make black people beg for their own demise.
To say you have to do something about this crime. But they're
gonna say well, I'm saying we got these robots over here and
these drones and people need to go check out one of my labs I
did on this whole policing thing. The drones all the
footage they had on Rittenhouse. Yeah, that's quite a thing.
Yeah, yeah, so I was just saying like what this is the apparatus
it's
because you're so right because it's become so normal for so is
oh yeah, I saw the drone footage. No one says what the
fuck drone footage we got drones flying around these things I
mean yeah, yeah, your drones ring doorbells as my favorite
the ring doorbells that's that's the grid man that's that's
Skynet right there.
And we're just to go back to the crime bill for one second. So
look to pot was synonymous with soap. And that was the whole
purpose. Oh, eggs takes away from Thuggy which they use in
the British and Indian situation to scare us and into policy
decisions. Okay, the doggies they're gonna get you so don't
need to do this in India. They want to do same thing here.
Remember and we did all this we did the thug thing with Obama
saying thugs and getting shit over it. Yeah,
we did the work. The work we did do
the work. Alright, so
with that said, I know my inbox is filling up right now don't
give a rat's ass it is what it is.
Hey, why don't you if you if you want to say something, then
boost it if you have a criticism, then boost it with
some SATs.
That's that's a great idea. So that's that's the we have to ask
the question easy to get to pot. So what we're gonna do now is
this has been such a heavy show with the lynching and things of
that nature. We're going to end on a light note. And this was
pretty much the greatest takeout heard on it. Because it's so
true. And this is a three part of Dave Chappelle and his joke
on Jesse Smollett,
just afraid of being attacked? happens the best don't ever
forget what happened to that French actor? No, I'm talking my
Jesus movies very French, very famous French actor.
Jesus Jesus Fourier is active in France. He became famous on a
show called Empire One night. He was in Chicago late at night and
was the victim he was the victim of a racist and homophobic
attack. You see, Jesus name is Jay and he is black, not just
French
this that is one of the most genius ways that I ever heard of
something approaching a topic like that, just by making a
French.
And that's why we why Dave Chappelle is so important. And
people like him that once you do this arm miss these narratives
with humor, yeah, you really can have a real conversation about
it. And I know people may you know, we take some of that heavy
topics in a light way, but that's the disarming of it. So
now we can have a real conversation and that's why you
know, a great way of introducing this show to other people. You
know, you can have listen, they laugh and then you can have a
conversation on the back end of it. So you want to go ahead and
get to the second part. Yes, sir.
Oh is a crazy story. Apparently, when he's walking down the
street late at night, two white men came out of the shadows
Magga hats on beat him up. tied a rope around his neck called
mocha Nicholson and put some bleach on him and ran off into
the night. She was like international news. And
everybody was furious especially in Hollywood it's all over
everybody's Twitter feed and Instagram page justice for juicy
and all this shit country was up in arms was talking about all
the time on the news. And for some reason. African Americans
we will like oddly quiet we were so quiet about the ship that the
gay community started accusing African American community of
being homophobic for not supporting him what they didn't
understand is that we were supporting him with our silence
because we understood that this nigga was clearly like
oh man are so good
and that's the thing everybody try to look the other way like
now we don't wanna talk about Jessie we don't because it gives
a whole bunch of things I blackout that are close to us
one being to pot to being lynching or whatever you have
whichever order you want to have those in and it's this thing
like I don't know make me do it juicy don't make me a you know
call you a liar. But he just kept pushing
and Dave Chappelle time this so perfectly with it because that
that in balloon was just inflating the don't talk about
it. Don't talk about it don't talk and he just popped it in
such a perfect way it was it was a real cultural moment.
Master comedian, Master comedian. I guess we can get
into the final part and the punch line of the joke.
details added up and he said he's walking down the street in
Chicago and white dudes come up to him and say hey man, aren't
you that faggot nigger from Empire? Does that sound like how
why people talk? No white people they don't talk like that. Are
you that faggot Lincoln from Empire they would never say
that. It sounds like something that I would say if you're
racist and homophobic You Never Noticed videos again watch
empire. Bible never feel sorry for the police. But this time
when you can feel sorry for the police. Can you imagine if you
as a police veteran taking this kid's police report? Okay, Mr.
Smith, please tell me what happened. All right. We left the
house today it was minus 16 degrees you're walking your walk
and where were you going? Subway sandwiches.
That's when the men approaching Did you see them? Okay, well
they have on Magga hats Magga hats on in Chicago. Excuse me
one second. Oh yeah find out where Kanye West was last night
and that's the genius of Dave Chappelle. You can have a black
man and a white man laughing just as hard at the same moment
in the joke. Is
a roomful of people of all different backgrounds. Yeah.
laughing at it, but it's it's more serious then.
He's done more to heal the country than any politician in
recent memory. That shit heals man, that's good.
And where would I be without juicy so we love
we are here at juicy.
We love you. So that's my take on a juicy smell lay in the hoax
that may have brought you more facts and
an appreciation the hope that the hoax that protected us from
actually having Kamala Harris as president so we have to be kind
of thankful to juicy.
That's that let juicy free juice.
Oh my god. Thanks. Oh, that was great. That was fantastic. And
what you know once, once you bring it back to Chicago, man,
my head exploded over here. I got to get new headphones, the
they don't clamp on my head anymore. So big explosion. That
was great.
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