More facts with Adam curry from November 23 2021 This is episode
number 71. We are back one week after the last tapes time for
another full on mo facts with Adam curry. I am Adam curry
coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country. And we will
be spinning that wheel of topics once again with the man who
knows how it goes from Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my
friend on the other end Mr. Bold facts. Adam I am well now that
I'm talking to you mo I'm doing great. Yes, to be honest, I've
I've had too many white opinions the past week. Yes. As I was I
was telling Tina, I said well, I'm pretty sure I know where I'm
not 100% Because, you know, we don't really discuss much before
the show. I'm pretty sure what will be included somehow in
today into this week's program. I'm like, I cannot wait to talk
to moe. I'm so excited.
It was the unavoidable. I intentionally kind of stayed
away from this. And so I knew we were gonna have to do a show on
it and says I guess we can go and spin the wheel.
Yeah. Round around. He goes the Wheel of Time Square stops.
Nobody knows. Of course no facts knows because he's put it all
together for us. So what is the topic for episode number 71 of
Mo facts with Adam curry, under real threat. Under Reatta
threat, under real threat under real threat. Okay, they're
real threat. Dr. Reverend Al Sharpton.
Don't give him more credit. Now with this doctrine.
It basically is coming. That's the new business model. But we
got to talk about a cow. Yeah, Rittenhouse aka killer cow, aka
cow, the kid, depending on what's on your own. And as you
said, the opinions are abundant on this topic, so I guess we had
to weigh in on it.
Yes, I will say that I watched most of the trial.
And that's great. Because I watched very little of the
trial. Yes, I didn't clips because I went I went back and
looked at it to go down that rabbit hole. I want it to be as
unaged as possible, right? To use the word
Yes, exactly. No, no, this is good. Because I feel at least
prepared for what I saw in the trial. And you know, and we'll
just take it from there. But yeah, opinions are the you write
a lot of opinions about this one. I'm very excited.
And I just go off the top. I really don't want to go to blow
by blow making sure you're seeing all the people do their
law degrees. And of course, they didn't get their law degree from
SVU. Like I have.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen. And that really is a fine piece of
paper. I'm all in on it.
Yes. Many, many hours spent doing coursework. So yes, so
we're gonna have our unique take as usual. And to start off, I
guess we need to do a little timeline, and we're going to use
this ABC report
on August 23 2020, Jacob Blake was shot multiple times in the
back by a police officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin, after
officers responded to a call about a domestic dispute,
according to the Wisconsin Department of Justice. Within
hours protests began in the city on the night of August 25 2020,
protesters and groups of armed men who said they were there to
protect businesses gathered in Kenosha among the armed men was
then 17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse. We don't have non
lethal using multiple videos obtained and verified by ABC
News, as well as the criminal complaint against written house
filed on August 27. We put together a detailed timeline of
the shootings that happened in downtown Kenosha on August
25 2022 days after Jacob Blake was shot by the police.
Wow. Wow. Okay, hold on a second. In addition to that, you
need to know this, in addition to the fact that, that I watched
most of the trial, I think most of the pertinent parts. I'm also
right off the bat. I'll just tell you my bias. I'm of the
opinion that this was a media SIOP, regardless of what
happened. This was a media psychological operation on the
American public, and it was evident to me when the
prosecution was at best You know, it was CNN MSNBC wall to
wall and Fox was breaking in. And hey, when the defense was up
at bat, it was the exact reverse. And I thought, Okay, I
got you message. So that that's just that's my that's my
starting off take as you know, I'm completely open to anything.
And be honest with everybody that's listening. I haven't
heard your tape. I did not listen to the latest episode of
no agenda for this is that point? I don't know where you're
coming from on this case. And I'll say this. This is probably
the hardest try trial we're going to cover on a audio only
podcast, because everything is so dependent upon video. Yeah,
exactly. Wow. Shameless plug for the Lost Tapes coming out next
Wednesday.
Supposed to do that's, that's that's how it works. No, we,
it's like ABC, we plug that we do stories about our own
entertainment products. That's exactly how.
But yeah, it's gonna be very hard to translate what we're
seeing. So that's why I didn't really go with a lot of Oh, what
happened in this event? No, no,
I agree. I think that it's almost unimportant. For the way
we look at stuff.
But I totally agree this was a psychological operation, only to
incite only to strike fear. And what it was really was a huge
upskirt to Lady Justice. I think everybody is coming.
I just got a visual on that. And I didn't like it. No, cuz but if
you heard Lady Justice, and she doesn't see it, did it happen?
She's always bought blindfold. But it No, I think everybody is
going away from this now seeing if the court wants you, or the
Protestants to put the prosecution wants you, they will
do anything to get you. Yeah. And the weird part of this is
the so called so called, quote unquote black community has been
saying this for decades and centuries. But now everybody is
starting to catch on. Say, we saw what this prosecution did.
The tactics, the just all, I didn't really cover this, but
they actually just speak on the video quality, how they play
games with the video quality of videos that use the suppression
of evidence. So the bright side of this for me is everybody is
going to be critical of the justice system moving forward,
because it's not so justice after all. In the end, it was
but we see the tactics are that are used to get somebody that
they want to target.
So I actually have not discussed the psychological operation on
no agenda yet. I was planning maybe on doing it. It's actually
my opinion may be adjusted after today's show. So what's
interesting why you say look at the prosecution, they'll do
anything to get you what actually happened after the
after the verdict is that that exact thing was used in reverse.
Because all I heard MSNBC and CNN saying it was very clear
division between them and Fox was if this was a black man, he
would have been in jail for 25 years. And and so what's weird
is, yeah, they're not wrong. But
if he would, let me refine, it would have been a black man
without $2 million to for his defense, he would he would have
been in jail. The only reason why cow got off was the amount
of support that came out for him and you know, in legal fund to
do all the groundwork and everything that needed to be
done to present his case, because it's clear that the
prosecution wanted him but let's not get too far ahead. Because
what I want to do is we got to go back to the Jacob Blake case,
which was the whole
Yes, the genesis of it all. Yeah, yeah.
And we're gonna see how hard they pushed this to even be an
issue. The cow Rittenhouse house case and I'm speaking here
because the Jacob Blake situation was a non starter. So
what now we have to do is go back into time and go back and
look at the law the facts the truth of Jacob Blake. My handle
is Nate the lawyer and welcome to my YouTube spot. I am a
former law enforcement officer, former prosecutor and I taught
at a law school for the past two years. Currently, I'm a private
attorney and I do private practice as a Black Law
Enforcement Officer as a former Black prosecutor and And as a
black attorney, I think it's important to look at both the
law and the facts of any incident before you pass
judgment. The most important thing about my videos is that
you are the judge, you get to decide whether things are
justified or unjustified. And we do that by looking at the facts
and the law dispassionately. Now we do have to understand the
cultural contexts of the times we're living in racism plays a
factor in some of these things, but not always. And we have to
understand when race does play a factor, and it does not, because
those are two important questions we have to answer. So
we're gonna try to see if we need those questions today with
the case of Robert Blake. But to do that, I'm going to need more
of your attention than I usually do. I'm going to need to both
teach you or show you examples, and then apply the law to Mr.
Blake's situation. And that's the only way we're going to get
a clearer understanding of what happened.
Now, this is a well known YouTube attorney.
Yes, this is Nate, the lawyer. And I think he does the best
work. He's on a hot streak right now. As far as the number of
cases he's called correctly. And we're going to be using him
throughout the show. Can I can I?
Can I I'm sorry. To do this. I just want to throw back to just
before we got into this, I think it's important, at least for for
the producers. I'm in agreement with you that the $2 million
Defense Fund was incredibly important in in this outcome.
And this this, you know, there's some other attorneys involved
before including Linwood, I know if you're going to touch on
that, but there's a lot of shyster eating going on there.
But I just want to know, do you agree that if it was a black man
who had $2 million, he also would have gotten the same
verdict? Because that's kind of gets kind of what the, the
differentiator here is, you know, it's like, would he still
have gone to jail because he was black, or even have had, he had
the same amount of resources?
If he had the same amount of resources, you would have had
the same outcome. Okay. Because we saw this with OJ, you have a
lawyer, and that's the thing about America. You see
businessman followed by file at the file, the file of lawyers.
This is how America works. It's like, you have lawyers to watch
your lawyers, you know, that kind of thing. And they leave no
stone unturned. If you're talking about going into this
case. Well, a public defended against this prosecution. No,
you're gonna, you're gonna be so
this is a great take on this trial. I'm so glad you're doing
it this way. Okay. We can go back to the what's his name? The
YouTube lawyers. This is this is make the law your neighbor,
lawyer, Nate's a lawyer? Yes. So he I like him already. By the
way. I like how he's talking. So I like him. And
I'll play the opening, because it's kind of a great opening to
the show is well, that we're going to have to take things
that are law, and then we could also separate it and say, Okay,
what's the emotional impact or what, what we think? What they
don't call it, they call it justice now, but that's not real
justice, justice. This by the letter of the law. Now, it's
about all what we what feels right. What we think should
happen. So now Nate is the lawyer is going to get into what
he what he thought the outcome of that Jacob Blake situation
should have been in clipping them before.
Now, I know you want to have people out there saying that
there is no evidence of institutional racism today. Both
people are either lying to you or being dishonest. Now, I've
said that to say this.
This situation, Mr. Blake, I don't believe is one of them.
Now, if you want to argue about whether the police should have
responded the way they did, whether he was an actual threat,
those I think are legitimate questions. Or the question of
well, how come this happens to African Americans at a
disproportionate rate? That's a conversation, I think it should
be rolled half. But for this particular incident, just to say
that race had this overarching part in this incident, it's just
hard for me to swallow. And I understand the need to boycott I
understand the need for social justice and social change. But I
don't think this is the case to make that argument for. I just
don't try one more. Yes. Walter Scott. Yes. George Floyd?
Obviously. Marbury. Yes. This case, I'm just not there. All
right. And it's amazing how they did this pairing of time with
the A Marbury case. How Oh, no.
Thank you that yes, that was my when, when I saw how that was
running concurrently and the timing of the verse coming out,
I immediately said, Oh, this just confirms my my whole
psychological operation thinking. Hmm.
And it could have been some esoteric kind of things going on
too, because it was some kind of funny Blood Moon. Yeah, you're
right, a hole, which is no, it's also known as a sacrificial
moon. It's not that I was looking bad for cows. I was
like, at the bottom. So yes, so that's Nate Deloria. He says
that Jacob Blake and just let people know Jacob Blake was the
man that was shot seven times. That was the genesis of this
whole situation. So now we had to go a timeline within the
timeline. Let
me just say one thing about Jacob Blake. Sure. Because there
was a knife in the way in close proximity, which he admitted to
I mean, I've seen I've seen the hidden meaning to it on TV, to
the the only thing I just want to add to that, knowing a lot of
law enforcement, if there's a person who was who is intent on
stabbing you blading you learn the lingo. Within 21 feet, they
absolutely have a chance of killing you, even if you have a
gun.
Okay, and that's we saw a similar case with a young lady
that was shot in Ohio, where she wasn't a threat to the cop, but
she was a threat to another person and may decide to use
lethal force. No, but we have to go back because Jacob Blyton
situation was very clear cut, we had a video that saw the whole
situation. But they had to drag it out to make it seem like it's
something something and it wasn't. So now we're going to go
and listen to what actually took place in that situation. Before
we get into the Rittenhouse situation. Number five,
because I felt like I was dying. I was counting down the breaths.
I was given the moment Jacob Blake thought he was about to
die.
I was counting down my breath and my blinks because I was just
staring right at the sky watching the clouds. I was like
God, I'm coming. I guess if it wasn't
the 29 year old speak it out for the first time. Almost five
months after being shot seven times by police. You didn't
resist.
I resisted getting beaten. What I mean by that? Is not
following. Not letting them put a head on my neck. That's all I
was thinking. Honestly.
Like is now partially paralyzed from the waist down. A moment
captured by bystanders eventually going viral. Yeah, so
that's that's how they played it up. And I don't know how
straight hand said that. He said like, you didn't resist it. Was
that a command? Or was that a question? Cuz it was unclear? It
was unclear. Yeah. It kind of like is like they edited in
afterwards. It was very, very unnatural. Yeah. Or distal kind
of editing there. Because it's like he made a statement. But
and he's following clips, you're gonna see he understands what
really went on. And to be honest with you, when everybody saw the
tape, let me just let me say like this, nobody deserves to be
shot seven times. Let me just say, Oh, if you're moving away
from the suspect, um, I believe, but as a cop justified to do it.
Yes. Is that the law? Yes. Um, and I'll say this in a
situation. If we're talking about the number of shots,
that's totally different from whether a shot should have been
fired. If you're moving away from anybody, let's just like if
I'm going to tell some what somebody and they're going into
their car. Best believe? Yeah, I'm assuming the worst, I'm not
gonna sit here and wait for you to pull out whatever. He had to
pull out whatever. And then, you know, I lose my upper hand. So
in that case, I completely understand. I think the
frustration is the number of shots. And that number of shots.
The reason why I'm bringing this up is that was the real
headline, man. And nothing after that even mattered why he was
shot or anything else. He could have been shot 123 times in a
row. And
I think that's because it was a great headline, and it becomes a
story because everybody can agree on that. Now, that's not
fair. Because neither you or I were a cop in that position. You
have no idea. I mean, we really don't know. But everybody can
agree. Damn, that seems like a lot.
This the number we're talking about is our headline value.
Yeah. Because like, like we both agree. A lot of people only read
headlines. I'm just gonna go to the YouTube video title here.
Jacob Blake tells his story after being shot seven times by
police.
The encounter marking the climax of a summer rock by reckoning.
Protesters adding the name Jacob Blake to their rallying cry.
Joining those of George Floyd and Brianna Taylor.
We call for action echoing across America. From celebrities
to athletes. We are scared as an
activist demanding justice for the ever growing lift of black
victims shot by police.
I didn't want to be the next George Floyd. I didn't want to
die.
Oh man. Okay, so I love that we're not doing video because I
haven't seen any of this. And I'm just listening to it. It's
masterful we as black people are afraid I mean, this is some good
mind control.
And that frustrated me we every time I hear LeBron James say
that because to be a 600 Give me a six foot seven six foot nine.
Black man almost 300 pounds 252 60 We're almost a billion
dollars bro. You shouldn't be scared because that what that
was just doing is playing into this fearful black man role like
oh, we're just walking around the street street scared every
day know what we are all aware and that's why I was so
frustrated with Jacob Blake is the fact that you're aware
what's going to happen if you don't listen to commands wrestle
with cops and then move it to your car. Everybody knows that's
the that's that idea of prescription for hot dosa lead I
mean he is this bait man to our understanding that's that talk
that we used to talk about a lot but we haven't talked about so
much that kind of thing like if a if you get you just and just
comply get your one phone call call bell out and you go home
you know, to wrestle with somebody know what the outcome
can be. It's not always that case. But it can be and you can
take it there so that's why they didn't get very much traction
with the story when it first was rolled out.
Right but the seven shots helped the
semi shot still that's just to say it seven shots just rolls
off your tongue and that thing goddess Cambus own life and a
lot of people were doing
powerful number seven you know Yeah.
The other thing Yeah, that's the other thing it's like the very
powerful number because it just rounds up the team shots we you
processing it. I mean when you process numbers like that,
that's why they use certain numbers in certain
ways. Also, you know, you gotta you gotta people think gun
submitted think revolver six shots six shooter five, seven.
Are you gonna get lucky today punk? I mean, you just get
there's something about
it. Yeah. So that mean that's that's all understand. That's,
that's all plays into it. So now we got Jacob Blake, he's talking
about his being shot. Now we're gonna have straight hand push
back a little bit and likes kind of reiterate what I was saying
about it's kind of understood when you behave in that manner.
What could happen? Records show that off through Chesky records,
telling Blake quote, let's talk about this. As Blake places one
of the kids in the car. He then tells Blake he had the warrant
and tries to arrest him. They didn't say why they were there.
Anything. Did they tell you that
they had a warrant for your arrest?
No. I thought that it had been over with
police deploy stun gun multiple times. Blake pulled two prongs
out of his skins. Officer Shecky and Blake end up in a physical
altercation on the ground. We see you you walk away from the
officers after they tried to grab you.
At that point. I'm rattled. I realized I had dropped my knife.
A little pocket knife. So I picked it up after I got off of
him. Because they tased me and I fell on top of him. Isn't there
probably face on the window. I'm about to get and check on my
kids. In the video, you hear him Sam dropped a knife. I think a
couple people were saying that but I didn't hear none of that.
Blake turns away from the officers and walks around the
front of the vehicle towards the driver's side door. What are you
thinking at that point?
I have picked my knife up. I'm like, I'm not really worried.
I'm walking away from them. So it's not like they're gonna
shoot me. I shouldn't have picked it up. At that time. I
wasn't thinking clearly.
Anyway, this is the interviewers Michael Strahan. Yes. How they
give him the weirdest gigs.
But he had to find a black man.
Well, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like they usually
they they put him in a dress they make him do The
uncomfortable bullcrap segment on the morning show but then
this is a this is a big one they can they give it to him it's
like it's a cheese he more blatant about it please ABC
well that and that's that's it that's why I said they had to
find a black man we see every time that somebody is
interviewed and these kinds of situations they're like oh we
got black Are you seeing it with the MSE NBC panel because
it's Miko stray cough because it's Miko stray hand that's why
you actually think wow, they really did just go who we got
this black. Although correct, although I kind of dig it. I
think it's interesting to hear him do this.
Yes, and the only thing I can say on MSNBC panels you see this
as well. People I'll take a day off so they can have a black
anchor on their shoulders usually hosted by a white
person.
Yeah, it's very obvious. And I love the amber what's her name
with the with a big afro? I mean, it's pouring it on now. We
got Cleopatra Jones on MSNBC.
Yeah, I don't think she does the MSNBC the one on line is Wales.
It's the company's great.
I love watching her I can't get enough of her but holy crap.
Yes. Um, as you can hear, Michael straight hand is kind of
like a well, you did kind of get tased Yeah. Yeah, this is what
made it so hard for this. And the point I'm making is the fact
that this was so hard for him and a non starter cow
Rittenhouse was a godsend for them.
Right all the all the elements were there. Yeah, cuz
you had it, they tried to wrestle with you. They shot you
with a few tasers, you still got to dry the weapons up your
knife. Right? Why wanting your car
with it. And what people got to understand is it's just so it's
gonna be brought up again in the clips, is his kids was in the
car. And his and the mother of his children had called the cops
and say, Hey, he's trying to steal the car. So when the kids
they don't know if it's the kid, and they don't know, if there's
a kidnap situation, they don't know what and I'm not saying I'm
not taking up for the police any kind of way. But it's the
context, you always have this site, because the reason why I
don't take up for police is they're professionals, the same
way I look at them, like doctors, with the with the coop
situation, it's like, if you're a professional, you're expected
to have a higher standard than an average citizen. Um, like I
said, the same way I look at doctors with the Cuf. Like,
y'all are supposed to have a higher standard than even
newscasters. Anybody else. So, um, yeah, so they're processing
all this in a matter of seconds. And for the ELMO say this,
people, everybody needs to stop calling the police for
everything. Um, these kinds of things used to be solved within
the community. And what I mean, by all mean, the black
community, I'm just saying, if it was a domestic dispute, the
man would come in and say, Man, go walk it off. You know, that
kind of thing.
I totally agree with you mo it is, it is a male problem, we
have become a nation of pussies who want to call someone about
something else. In the end, what bugged me the most is exactly
that. And now in Austin, but of course, we left. They what
they're doing is they're, instead of going that direction,
I think you and I would like to say, hey, let's just do this in
the community. We got men around here, we should just, you know,
just settle things, you know, we all have to live together. No,
instead, now they're taking that, you know, that policing
role, because people always call 911. And now they're giving it
to social workers, which probably the worst thing you can
do, they're gonna get their asses beat. It's so stupid. And
we have, it's always I'm going to sue you. I'm going to do
this. We don't discuss things. We don't work things out amongst
each other anymore, regardless of race.
Well, people think the police are like, there to play games
with them. Yeah, when you call the police, they're there to
take somebody to jail. That's their, that's their job is you
don't call him out there to break up domestic disputes. And
what I mean by that, like, oh, you you and your brother in law
had a few too many drinks and you kept bumping,
right, but it's a phone misuse, and the citizens need to know
it. And it's the same with EMT, I've many EMT friends and they
get caught and they have to respond. They can't they can't
say no, we're not going to the call. They'll get there. And
it's a morbidly obese person who saying I can't get my
cigarettes. Can you get them off of the table? Wow. Yes, yes,
this kind of shit. It's unbelievable.
So yeah, that's one thing that we can do to resolve a lot of
these incidences I don't know. I'll say it like this. If he
wasn't real threat, men call the police and obviously she thought
he was a real threat but if you just think he's gonna go ride
around the block and come back once you blow some steam Don't
call the police. Um, and for him is that he forgot he thought the
work situation was over. No. Everybody knows from a speeding
ticket to try parking tickets or whatever else, you know, when
you got something lingering over your head dealing with the
court, I now find that hard to believe this from my from my
viewpoint. So, um, with that said, we can go ahead and get
into part four of this clip, you you
said that we can just look at the video, the video tells
everything we're going to be a lot of people who look at the
video and say in the video, you're walking away from the
police. So why didn't he just stop and do what the police are
asking him to do?
I couldn't hear that. All I heard was screaming screaming.
My ears was ringing so it was all muffled
if the police were fighting me if they were if they were
teasing me. I was stopped walking away from them, and they
will have my attention.
And when it has saved me I have my hands up. So,
Officer Shecky his attorney insists, quote, the officers
were compelled to use force once Blake began actively resisting
their verbal commands, adding that the claim the officer
didn't say anything to him during the application is quote
preposterous. As Blake opens the door of the car, Officer Shecky
claims Blake drove the knife toward his body. Blake denies
this. Officer Shecky then grabs Blake by the back of his shirt
and shoots him seven times.
Yeah, I gotta say, I think stray Han has a career doing crime.
Yeah, I mean, he did a great interview. The way you can hear
him say a lot of people would say he kind of brought it on
yourself. Yeah, that's kind of what he was saying.
Well, but he's approaching it from I like that. He's he is
speaking like a black man to a black man. I can hear that. He's
like, Come on, man. Am I am I am I wrong?
Like will is justifiable or I mean your actions were
justifiable No. You wrestling taste
right straight. said this guy hands like no don't get my
attention. I mean, I can hear you say that mo I think it's a
very funny way of saying it like you dumb ass. I think stray
hands saying that don't you?
Yes, I agree. I totally agree with him but he couldn't just
come out and say it he says a lot of people with
ABC can't do that. I can't talk like that on ABC Of course not.
But why not? And that's that lets you know when situation
Yeah, is bigger than they had to keep the ball rolling and this
was much later now the the he got out the hospital or
everything else. They still were giving it a little fuel and feel
to define when did the protest start? Oh, this the process for
his after his shooting? It started immediate immediately.
Okay. Yeah, cuz, yes. All right.
But the problem was, um, when people actually saw the video,
it was hard to get a real.
It wasn't usable. All they had was seven shots. Everything else
was no good.
Right. But that's when I think they had to engage the third way
that we talked about, huh? And and bring in the criminals.
Yeah, it's like somebody crossed state
lines probably.
Yeah. So they can get like legit protesters out there. Might with
George floor and other cases that we've seen. So I think
that's why you saw the assembly of characters that was involved
in Rittenhouse case. Yeah, these were these were higher hands.
They wrote up a bunch of criminals. You're right, man.
Absolutely. And that's yes. Right. No, no,
I'm on board. Yeah. That's the point I'm trying to make of it
was just a bad situation that they couldn't spend any way. So
now they use all that energy went into the Rittenhouse case.
The political energy, the political energy, yeah. So now
this is Kamala Harris. So yeah. And this is her.
Unbelievable. Unbelievable. This is unbelievable.
And her speaking on the meeting with Jacob Blake's family.
I sat down with Democratic vice presidential nominee Senator
Kamala Harris Thursday afternoon for a wide ranging conversation
on the issues facing Americans in this unique presidential
election year and we started. We started with the Jacob Blake
case, the man shot seven times by police in Wisconsin. As I
understand, you've talked to Jacob Blake's family. Yeah.
Yeah. What was that conversation like?
First of all, his family. They're really wonderful and
extraordinary people. They have suffered so much, you know, he
has six children. Three his sons who the eldest what was it was
his eighth birthday that day. Right. And so it was a family
conversation and it was his sister, his father, his mother,
and they're just full of grace and, and pain. Right? That's
coexisting for them. And, and I talked again with his mother.
But Joe was so good. But then, you know, Joe Biden, I, you
know, he has had conversations with, with Jacobs family with
Mr. Blake's family. He has had conversations with Mr. Floyd's
family with Mr. Apres family. And he says, you know, and they
need to be seen, they need to be heard. And I think that's the
important thing about these conversations. He sees
them. Yes. Well, you have to we got to bring Joe back from the
if you if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. You know, we
got a sausage a little bit.
But you know, how condescending is it for somebody to say I see
you I see you, Adam. Oh, yeah. I see. What what is that, like, I
don't want to be seen.
That's, that's actually kind of like a cringy. White woman thing
to say.
In that that's that that's that whole, we see you. We
acknowledge you we don't want to be acknowledged and seen that
that whole thing and that Oh, Joe, he's so wonderful. And in
the family, all their extraordinary and graceful, but
graceful? I'm gonna say this, if my son had been shot seven times
wrongly, and something that he didn't know, have any part in to
bring it upon itself. The last thing I would be is damn
graceful. Right? What is that? He they're graceful. If she had
to walk this line of don't be too aggressive, but we can't
seem too weak, either. Here's,
here's here's the real question for me. And Tina and I were
talking about this maybe for the past two days. Do we think that
the reason that Kamala Harris actually believes these men were
wronged all of them, but let's just say to keep it with Blake
to keep it easy? Because she only reads a briefing sees a
headline and just has a bias and is just rolling with it? Or is
she really that calculated? And is she is this all premeditated.
She's acting here regardless because that's her job. But do
you think that she really knows what's going on? And I just
questioned if these I think these people are like most of
America, they just look at a headline and know how they feel
about the world and just fits in this narrative. And and that's
what everyone's saying. Anyway. So let's go Brandon.
For her to be a potential Supreme Court justice. nominee.
I won't I won't better. Like I was saying about the cops. I
want somebody you your whole career is in law. You had no
problem with locking up. Women who had children with truancy
problems, who thought we covered in the case, we cover the case
of the man that she tried to lock up wrongfully? So no.
Oh, blocked blocked up dope smokers.
Right? Don't smokers? I don't think this is Oh, now she's
found Jesus. No, no, I think is that, hey, I got to make sure
Joe looks as good as possible. So I can take the spot from and
when it's time, I can never make it to the White House of Joe
doesn't make it to the White House. And I think that's her
whole thing. Of You can't sit here and see what I saw was
straight handsaw. And say there's any gray area there,
right? You just can't just can't know. Especially if your your
your career is in law. That's what frustrates me about her.
This is not some this is not Sarah Palin. It is no not Sarah
Palin. What I'm just saying is this is not some random woman
that was selected to be BP. She's supposed to have a long
history in law enforcement. And to sit here and say, well, the
things that she gonna say in this video is just amazes me. So
I guess we can go and get into part two of this clip.
As a former prosecutor, and someone who worked closely with
police for years, based on what you see and what you know about
the case, is there a scenario in which, of course,
I want you to notice how you can start this clip over when she's
annoyed and I've listened to knock Kumala got her tail now.
No Noid with a question. Yeah, she hits you with this flat dog.
Yeah.
That's her tell. Okay, that's my question catch.
Here we go. As a former prosecutor, and someone who
worked closely with police for years, what do you know about
the case? Is there a scenario in which that office or would have
been justified, was justified in firing his weapon?
Craig, I don't I don't see it. But I don't have all the
evidence. From what I saw
that just remind people what the question Question was because
she does this way. Oh, I got to give it to her to how you forget
what the question was about she get time she gets done. But the
question was, is there any scenario? Any, from what we saw
where the cat will be justified? I just remind people to question
14 answers would have
been justified, was justified in firing his weapon? Correct? I
don't I don't see it. But I don't have all the evidence. You
know, from what I saw, which is what the public has seen. So you
know, I'm not the prosecutor in the case. I don't have all the
evidence. But you know, the man was, was going to his car, he
didn't appear to be armed. And if he was not armed, if he was
not armed. The use of force that was seven bullets coming out of
a gun at close range in the back of the man. I don't see how any
buddy couldn't reason that that was justifiable. The officer
should be charged. I think that there should be a thorough
investigation. And based on what I've seen, it seems that the
officers should be charged.
Yeah. Okay, madam, Vice President, here's your talking
boy, we really want to hit the seven shots. So that's really
what we want to just kind of focus on the seven, seven shots
would really be in the back, get seven shots, I would really be
helpful. Madam President, Vice President.
Anytime these questions are asked like straight hands,
asking like I forget this gentleman's name over MSNBC,
that means you really don't have a leg to stand on. And it's like
the public is saying this. So they have in good faith. I mean,
put that in the world since Nixon is with the media, but
they know they have it. I can't go out here and not ask this
question. Or it would just be blaming that on the tape. So you
saw straight hand had to ask a tough question. You saw he had
to ask a tough question. And anything that he gave her out to
any scenarios? Yeah. She could have easily said, Well, you
know, but you can see, you can hear the calculations going in
her head to say, well, you know, I don't have all the evidence.
And I saw what the people saw him.
Yeah, but she's not sharp. She's not sharp, because you're right.
She didn't pick up on that out.
Right. He gave her out. And he is he made it clear in any
scenario. So, um, yeah, Kamal, we know her past. We know what
she's known for a long time people love. So if this was in
her district, and she was doing handcuffs
on Willie Brown.
I don't think that was
painted pink handcuffs? Yes.
So um, yeah, so I don't I don't buy it at all. But she had to go
out and she had to go out and do what she had to do. And this is
just remind people this is during the election cycle. Yeah.
So they were saying
anything, anything to make sure they got elected. And the
media was even worse than it is now as far as the suppression of
information. So for her to have me brought and ask these
questions, you know, that it was public, and the public these
questions were swirling. So let's go ahead and get into the
third and final piece of this clip.
To those who are seeing right now across this country. There
are a lot of folks who are saying, Here's a man who
wouldn't follow police commands. Law enforcement tried to use a
teaser. And then he apparently is reaching into a car where a
knife was later found. And because of those reasons, we
should reserve judgment and the officer should be afforded due
process. What would you say to those people who are saying that
everyone should be afforded due process? I agree with that
completely. That is absolutely one of the important tenants of
our, of our system of justice. But here's the thing. In
America, we know these cases keep happening. And we have had
too many black men in America will have been the subject of
this kind of conduct. And, and many of whom have lost their
lives and we speak their names all the time. Again, George
Floyd, just as the most recent been a most public example of
this, and it's got to stop.
Two hours ago, I heard the vice president say Vice President
Biden, I heard him say that the President was rooting for more
violence. He thought President Trump was rooting for more
violence. How does more violence help the President?
I mean, I can't look past Kellyanne Conway. I don't know.
That's not my that's not my deal.
So, once he doubled down, I was like, Yo, this looks kind of
bad. The people are not really with it. And they were nobody
was really crying over Jacob Blake, let me just be honest, a
lot of people like you, you put that on yourself in the words of
Martin Lawrence. Yeah, you you brought that situation on
yourself. And if you want to take it one step further, his
baby mama really brought it on, on him.
And I call these cops.
Right? I find it amazing that you have this phenomenon where
these people are calling the police on other people. And then
when something happens, they're like, Oh, why did you do that to
him? What do you call me for? If it's not that serious, you know?
So is there no realization in these communities that this is a
dumb idea? What's going on with that? Maybe that's something
you want me to be? I mean, I can be completely candid, and I'm
gonna piss the probably a lot of people. But in the show, I'm
probably gonna piss a lot of people off. So I'm, I will start
now. Um, a lot of people are okay with the police as long as
they're doing their bidding. And see this is where the family
courts. And if you want to talk about us structural or
institutional racism or white supremacy, I think this is where
it starts. This is how you get the man out of the house. This
is no man in the house manifested. Yes. Okay. Of
course, just say I'm fed up with you. I'm tired of your crap. Did
not want one, come get him. I'm tired of him. For whatever
reason, it doesn't matter what the reason he can do.
So where does this where does this in this empowerment
entitlement comes from the influences of the women running
BLM? Or is this our
family courts, their family courts have weaponized
themselves, well, weaponize women, women, women and women,
not all women, but it has given them the ability to say, if you
want the power to the state to step in, and this goes back to
the I think last shoulder show before that. We were talking
about the keys and who owns your keys? Yeah, you know, really the
state's own your kids when you sign that birth certificate, the
state's on your kid. And it's like, okay, now state, I need
help with a with, you know, the CO parent between us, me, you
and him being no The three parties being the two parents in
the state, I need him out of here. And that's basically what
she did was engaged white supremacy on him. And that's,
that's and not not saying the cost of white supremacy. What
I'm saying is the system the family court system is set up to
say if you're unhappy with this, man, we'll take we'll get him
out of here. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what the
reason the case the calls, whatever, he got to go. And man,
you fall under that as well. I mean,
yeah, no, I know, I I saw what happened in my, in my first
divorce. I saw how what kind of lawyers came to my ex wife's
immediate aid, and I saw what they were trying to do. Now
luckily, our daughter was almost 19 at the time. So you know, it
wasn't but all man I mean, it was and also my ex wife was
making way more money than me. So you know, you were really bad
girl I said, I said like, hey, no, no, in that case, I said you
really don't want me claiming money do you? Because I was
making less I mean
divorces yeah in the monastery I'm talking about in the
physical movement since
right now but but I'm saying is that I saw how the how the
justice system is completely geared towards screwing the the
dads screwing the husband screwing the male partner.
That's what I mean.
Which we also got to highlight the fact that there are bad
actors out there that do pale it was a several of them in Kenosha
that night.
See dead bees.
So it's a lot of waste. A lot of men out here that actually abuse
women. Sure. We saw several of them in Kenosha that night.
That's amazing how they always tend to be around when things go
down. Crap happening. Yep. Yeah. So we're not saying that the
police is not necessary. And domestic violence is not a
serious issue. But I think people take it too far in the
sense of, if you're just having a couple of spat, there's no
need to involve the law in it. Because the law only has one
purpose. And that's to enact a law. Whatever the law is, okay.
They'll quickly tell you Mr. Curry, Mr. Facts, you got 30
minutes to pack a bag, you got to make a phone call you got to
get out of here and that's a system and that's the other leg
of the justice system that really needs to be exposed. We
saw the one leg of it get exposed during this trial. Now
that's another layer But we need this suppose in the future
because that causes a lot of strife and unnecessary
involvement a law enforcement in couple situations but I digress.
Okay, thank
you. I appreciate that that was that was worth the diversion for
me.
So I think we stopped at 11. Now we got to get to actual Joe by
name. Speaking to Jacob Blake
also had been waiting to hear more about his visit with the
family of Jacob Blake. Attorney Benjamin Crump released a
statement minutes ago while the Vice President was speaking said
that he and Dr. Biden met with the family including Jacob
Blake's father, Jacob Blake, Sr. His sisters and brother Ben
Crump listened in by phone as to Jacob Blake's mother and Jacob
Blake himself from his hospital bed. This piece of the statement
in particular stood out quote, I'm quoting from the statement
from Ben Crump quote, Jacob Jr, the young man who was shot Jacob
Jr. shared about the pain he is enduring. And the Vice President
commiserated to vice president told the family that he believes
the best of America is in all of us, and that we need to value
all our differences as we come together in America's great
melting pot. Going on to read, quote, it was very obvious that
Vice President Biden cared as he extended to Jacob Jr. A sense of
humanity, treating him as a person worthy of consideration
and prayer, unquote. That is part of a statement from
attorney Benjamin Crump about the meeting that Vice President
Joe Biden had with the Blake family. So apparently, Kristin,
Joe Biden and Jacob Blake spoke communicated somewhat today,
which I think is the first we've heard of a major political
figure actually talking to the family. And to young Mr. Blake,
that is a great piece of propaganda. Have the guys lawyer
who create the statement of what happened with color, and just
read that verbatim on the air and then say, wow, it looks like
they had a good little chat didn't.
But I will say this that our current and our Biden needs to
update their language cost melting pot is now
melting true.
This is true. Oh, yeah. You're very, very tone deaf. And in
doing that, but this is this. This goes with the thing with
Cardi B. And talking to the president, presidential
candidates. This goes with, you know, all these other people to
talk to presidential candidates. Now you got people that are
shot. Talking to President you can't this was the cranes. This
was the pander the panda machine was on 11 Right now, as far as
oh, let's go talk to Jacob Blake. And then the egg was on
their face. But people with short memories and under mass
formation. They don't see this. They don't they don't hear this.
They only hear seven shots. Yeah. And that's that's why you
saying that SIOP is spot on because none of this translates
all of this was I'm not going to get these clips from anywhere.
Exclusive for anything. This was for public knowledge. And the
reporters knew were like, well, that sounds kind of crazy. If
you ask me, but
seven shots, seven shots, seven shots, seven shots,
it's all a matter. So before we get into this, I went I
identified that who this report is talking to and I had written
now here, but it's Kristen. She's the new Department of
Justice. Civil rights.
Oh, this is the Yeah, this is the American Indian woman.
No, it's not. She's she's black. Nurse. Well, she's black in
color, but think she's from the Caribbean. She's not she's not a
Das.
No, she's not a Das. No. I thought she was American Indian.
No, you thinking about Gupta. No, no, no,
not no, not Indian, American Indian, like Indian like Native
American.
Oh, she was she might I mean if you talk what's her name?
Kristin. Uh, what is her? I have it here. This is the part of DOJ
right Kristen Clark. Oh, Kristen Carr. That's it. And I think
she's from Jamaica. Oh, no, no,
I'm sorry. I'm, I'm thinking of someone else. Yes. I have seen
her. And she is indeed Jamaican. Yes. And well, she's, she's
American, but her parents are from Jamaica. They immigrated
correct cray. Well, she's similar to Kamala Harris in that
way where She's Jamaican by Yes. And
I remember I remember seeing her and she was talking some smack
I'm like, What's this we business?
You want to go ahead and go and get into the clip because she
thought a doozy out here. Okay.
Which is one small step forward in terms of healing, just
recognizing and acknowledging this brutal, tragic tragedy.
We've got to remember that Mr. Blake is a human being he is a
father. He has a son. He is the descendant of a family that has
literally committed itself to our nation's civil rights
movement. Song grandpa,
dog whistle. No, I want to talk dog whistles. No. He said this
and it. You gotta remember this election time where she was
actually genius where she before she got her appointment. Um, so
she's out there keeping hard for the administration to because
she knew she had some coming down by a gay I got a gig coming
up. So you would just be run a little bit. Yes, she's the
descendant. Interesting where she chose there
is a father. He is a son. He is the descendant of a family that
has literally committed itself to our nation's civil rights
movement. His own grandfather marched in the days after the
assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King. And so Mr. Biden's
actions today, most certainly humanized, Mr. Blake. But what
we need now is justice. What we need now are officers who will
be held accountable for the harm done to Mr. Blake, we need
officers to be held accountable for the countless shootings of
unarmed African Americans. This is a crisis that is the soul of
our nation, and we need National Service shots from a blind eye
to this and who will acknowledge the bitter, harmful racism
underlying the police violence that we are seeing carrying
partner country right now. Wow. Also
worth noting that Joe Biden his remarks did indeed say that
institutional racism is a thing and he directly connected it to
the incident in Kenosha that has left Jacob Blake Jr. in a
hospital bed. Kristen Clark of the Lawyers Committee for Civil
Rights Under Law. Thanks very much.
Oh my goodness.
So that's her before she got her gigs. So you know, she was out
there keeping hard yeah, and thought around to descend it
word How convenient. That's kind of thing they know what time it
is. They know what's going on. They know what the the talking
points are. And it's amazing that she used that word because
I thought a das were black box rushing box just to throw that
word around. You might get yourself on the list there,
Kristen, but
I'm sorry, I was gonna say I get into trouble with people.
Because I'll say I do. And it usually winds up with me having
to explain a DOS. Now say this woman has no business talking
like this. You know, she really doesn't at least not with the
attitude that she's dead like she's a part of this and that
she you know, she understands these by the way, I am actually
a descendant of, of people who were active in civil rights. You
know, my great uncle painted John Brown in the murals on the
wall in in Kansas. at the Capitol. It's like that's how
stupid it is what this woman is saying.
And what that this just they had they had nothing to say. So they
commodity the same thing. They just have to fill up space with
just rambling
but when I say those things and I get into trouble people say
but that's that's really racist that you say that because she's
by because of her color because of her color the skin.
But you can't identify I'm separate groups within you know,
that's kind of like lumping Asians with white went in with
Chinese, Asian, Asian with whites. Why not? Just say within
intra intra. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, Japanese, Korean. Chinese all
the same?
Yeah, that's basically what they're saying. Yeah. So that's
highly offensive. Yes. That's, that's my that's honestly, I
totally get your point. And I'm just gonna highlight it even
further. That's like saying, Ah, we want somebody to speak on any
relations. Chinese bring them on? Yeah, we have somebody here
representing Asian Americans. What I mean, cuz I used to be
come from Khalistan or wherever and be considered an Asian is,
is yes. You might even be considered Chinese. It just
looking at you if you're Kazakhstan.
Right. So that's, that's where it's offensive. There. And the
other part is, I'm just gonna say this and people get
frustrated me. It's amazing how these super woke women. Kamala
Harris and Kristin her I forget her name last name. Yeah, but
they're married to these oppressive white men. They speak
so bad. They thought the only good ones How does that work?
That's right. Check them there's no limit to excuse me No, let
me not forget dollar limit as well. But it's amazing how they
got here and vilified. same people and then go and lay down
beside the person or a group of people that you're vilifying
that I don't understand. Yeah, mindset,
you're not in the mess formation. So you see right
through it. This is how the emperor has no clothes.
Thank goodness. I'm not part of it. Oh, we're gonna wrap this.
We're gonna have an early donation segue. So there's gonna
be a last clip of this block. Just because I wanted to break
the show up. But this is the final outcome of whether Jacob
Blake was the officers were charged or not and the Jacob
Blake situation.
We're gonna turn now to the fallout after the Kenosha
District Attorney announced he will not charge any of the
police officers involved in the shooting of Jacob Blake this
summer. Alex Perez is in Kenosha with the latest force. Good
morning Alex.
Hey, good morning Robin. Things peaceful here overnight but the
city of Kenosha remains under an emergency declaration some 500
National Guardsmen have been activated. Jacob Blake's family
calls the prosecutor's decision on just overnight demonstrators
taking to the streets in Kenosha, Wisconsin. After
prosecutors announced they are declining to towards the officer
who shot Jacob Blake seven times last August, saying that after
poring through some 40 hours of video and 1500 pages of reports.
The evidence did not support charges.
No Kenosha law enforcement officer in this case will be
charged with any criminal offense.
This disturbing video of the incidents back on August 23. It
sparked days of protest. Police were responding to a domestic
dispute call from Blake's girlfriend Blake who was
paralyzed in the shooting this morning is still recovering his
family frustrated with the prosecutors decision to not
press charges
are asking the city to county the state and his nation to rise
up in a non violent uprising to let our friends and family know
there's a new sheriff in town
and the teenager who is accused of killing two people during
protests here last summer Kyle Rittenhouse was arraigned in
court he pleaded not guilty to all charges
once again the timing July we can't get the cops couldn't get
the cops what we got Kyle so don't don't don't worry about
it. Um And who's this new sheriff in town thing Yeah,
that was interesting. It was also like Don't Don't be violent
about the new sheriff in town
right now is once again because they knew isn't this the same
Justice Department whatever you call it locally, the district
attorney and whatever the same ones decided not to charge the
cops charge cow so they're like wait wait we might we might get
cow so don't don't go too crazy just yet is how I interpret that
I think if you look at the timeline that's completely
acceptable.
Yeah, so I just we saw the Jacob Blake situation we knew what
time it was we were like yes seven shots that's a bit much um
but you also outline in the way you were carrying on and then as
you heard like it was part of the message spew in really
none of it was good. None of it was good for the optics we had
some headlines we had to move on.
Yeah, we had other things to get through so that's why they kind
of pivoted over to the George floor thing and like we'll catch
this on the backside in November that was the plan
well, well executed so far. Yeah,
I'm a May they had a bigger plan you could tell the way they
handled this but I just wanted to point out and bring back to
people's main memory how disingenuous the the politicians
in the media was but I have to give media credit at least they
tried with this one daily they lease it did try to say that one
but
But I liked with the levers they pull and I just have to say it
like you I think we see it the same way. The Levers are getting
pulled, man. It's not that hard. It's only six CEOs you got to
talk to it's very simple. Yeah. The Levers get pulled in one
afternoon. Let's do this then that's not working to tune
in to this issue. Before we get to the next thing but since you
thought a psyop out there, I just have this I have no proof.
This is completely speculation, completely speculation. But
could this be a whole distraction from from the whole
coop situation unraveling?
Um, well, Matt
stands for Microsoft. I'm just saying MSNBC, and they've been
the ones on the tip of the spear pushing this confusion. At the
same time, nobody really wants to talk about what's going on on
the coop side of things. So I just wanted to throw that out
there as a could this be a distraction airy measure? And
race is the perfect distraction?
Yeah, I think it's I think it's an easy fall back. Huh? It's a
good one. It I think this is more plan than than we realized
this was not necessarily just it works out perfectly. But I don't
know if it's necessarily a distraction. This This was well
executed this timeline. And that's that's the piece that was
kind of missing for me because I was paying attention to other
things. This timeline shows me how well done this is.
In that timeline, if you have some other nuggets you wanted to
hide in the news, now's the time they'll drop it because it'll be
in the third or fourth block segment. Yeah, this is this is
like a breakout cases that are more morning, but don't don't
pay attention to that. Look at
this is like, if you watch succession.
I do not I have a start Washington. Yeah.
Okay. Anyway, this is like the Christmas tree. Like everyone
can hang this shit on it. Except, you know, not not for
display. But just like, I'll just stick it here in the
branches. So as this thing goes off to the burning pile, then no
one sees what's going on.
Oh, okay. I see. I see what you say. Um, so that's kind of what
the point I'm trying to make. Yeah, this is a good, you know,
masking mechanism to say, well, we told you, we told you what,
you were paying attention to something.
Yeah, here's the story. Here's the story. I told you. I
published it. Uh huh.
Right, right, we talked about it, you know, your fault, I
guess it's time to thank the people that make this possible.
Man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same
table, the white man has to feel free to speak his mind without
hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so called Negro
has to feel free to speak in the mind without hurting the feeling
of the white man, then they can bring the issue that are under
the rug out on top of the table. He's taking the intelligent
approach to get the problems out. But the only way but don't
ever do it.
That's right, those wise words from Malcolm, it's what we do
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So now we got to get back into the timeline. And, um, this is a
longer clip, you can stop it whenever you like. But in this
timeline, it's like almost 202 minutes and 30 seconds. I hope
that you do stop it from time to time. But this covers from their
first interaction with cow and the first person that he shot
down to the final person that he shot. So his whole their whole
rendition of what happened. And once again this ABC News so you
can stop and whenever you like if there's some points that you
want to address, so you can go and begin to clip now
at 10:04pm. A video shows a group of armed men protecting a
car shop at the corner of 59th and Sheridan. And one young man
well just stop it right here and
how many seconds was it? Let me see it was I was actually
rubbing my eye too. It would have been it was eight seconds
in so it didn't take me long. Yes, I do like the dramatization
of it. It's already the soundscape. The mix is
beautiful. I'd like the voice they chose for this innocent
girl. The whole thing is it's working for me. I think this is
outstanding on the propaganda scale.
And the green t shirt and backwards baseball cap says a
little over an hour later protesters gathered at an
ultimate gas station at 16th. In Sheridan, we see a man who
appears to be Joseph Rosenbaum, one of the shooting victims
clash with armed men also gathered back at the car shop at
15
wow they really did the sound editing to AHA wow this is good.
Was it they switch to vid this video when they did when you
heard that as well? Should they pop in you see Angry Men? This
is good. Yes, yes, it's good
armed men also gathered back at the car shop at 59th and
Sheraton the same young man who appears to be Kyle Rittenhouse
can be seen asking law enforcement for water and the
officers can be heard speaking to the group.
We really do it's so funny. I love not seeing the video
because what I expected you know officers can be seen talking to
the group. What to expect is a bunch of cops said hey guys, you
know, just keep it calm tonight. No one says like I said that's
not officers talking to them. That's not the same thing. That
is not community policing. There's gonna be hurt Sorry
and why you got to stop I want to make the point how they said
like the cops gay cow water like you're saying like he's in a
timeout break it's like here you go
go back. Yeah hydrated for what you see you're killing. You're
killing spree. That's right.
And the officers can be heard speaking to the group we really
do. At 11:48pm Gunshots bring out over gunshots on their first
four bursts. Then three, a man who police identified as
Rittenhouse runs across the parking lot of an auto service
shop, followed by a shirtless man who was later identified as
Joseph Moses. Moments later shots rang out and the shirtless
man falls to the ground. A figure who appears to be
Rittenhouse continues running. seconds later he comes back into
view and bystanders arrived to help the victim. Britton house
can be seen standing by the body making a phone call. As more
people arrive he runs away out of frame and someone seems to be
heard saying I shot somebody. At 1149 multiple videos show
Britton house running down the street as a pursuer tries to hit
him. Rittenhouse is being chased by several people when he
appears to stumble and fall to the ground. While on the ground.
Police say he fires at least four shots striking two people
Anthony Huber is shot and lies motionless industry douche gross
breaks is shot in the arm and appears to be holding Whoa,
whoa, whoa. Whoa, I mean, we weren't gonna go through the
details of this but they just they had a lot of detail and
then all of a sudden they skip over the guy kicking him in the
face skateboard gone pointing no skateboard No, none of that
Chase. This is how this took
off running. They just it's like they compress that into five
seconds.
Right so I just while I wanted to play this just so we could
get the context of how the media sold this situation. Um, like I
said they just glossed over
everything. No, he points the whole key points of the case.
Exactly. So we could continue on. Wow.
1149 multiple videos show Britain house running down the
street as a pursuer tries to hit him. Rittenhouse is being chased
by several people when he appears to stumble and fall to
the ground. While on the ground. Police say he fires at least
four shots striking two people. Anthony Huber is shot and lies
motionless industry. Gage gross breaks is shot in the arm and
appears to be holding a handgun according to the criminal
complaint. Rittenhouse gets up and runs down the street as
police arrive at the scene. People in the crowd can be heard
yelling Rittenhouse raises his hands while his rifle hangs
around his torso and a number of police vehicles drive past him.
He walks towards a squad car which is parked near the First
United Methodist Church. This is the last time we see him on
video ABC News obtained Rittenhouse was not arrested
that night and Kenosha pa got away.
Gosh, that is that's very you know, there's something unique
about about this, this podcast, which is 100% attributable to
you is you know an analysis exactly of what we just did. We
can only do that because we let this sit, we let it marinate we
you know we collect our own information over time. It just
takes time and every other analysis that is done right at
right after something has happened is shit. You know and
and only. Only because we have waited we wait for these things
before we do a show. It's really so clear how bad the propaganda
is, and just complete fake fake news. And then let me see if I
can. We should just have this during a whole show. We'll have
the scary working on the Theramin live okay.
That's exactly the point though, that we have to wait is so you
know if we were chasing numbers and chasing views and that kind
of thing. We're breaking news, breaking news, breaking news,
and that's why I got so frustrated with everybody's
analysis like oh, they just got on my lawyer now and I'm just
going to Oh, did you see that and look at this in this using
Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no. See what we're fed. We process what we're
being fed and see if it makes sense or not.
That's where everyone comes from.
So I'm what you want to give me what you heard. Let's start.
Let's start right there. I'm gonna tell you what some people
thought. And then we will go no,
I can't make it. Okay, go well, do you want it? I don't know
what cuz I would probably want to say
the same thing but not I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go point by
point now just just what this the narrative was, I know
exactly what the narrative was. Let me go ahead I just humor me
and then I'll tell you if this guy just started
shooting it black people just shooting and shooting in the
wild and killed three people killed two people and blew
another guy's arm up and that was he was just the
troublemaker.
The narrative you're close with just a few points you missed.
The narrative woods. Cow says I'm sick and tired of the black
loud marathon.
Oh yes.
Yeah, I'm gonna do something about it. I'm gonna throw my
hair on the back of my car and get my mom to drive me across
state lines. So I can shoot some black people that that's the
narrative and the way they sold it work a lot a lot of people
are taught no no you forgot it shoot it shoot me some black
people. Yeah, shoot me some black now you've got the
complete narrative.
So and then on top of that is that he actually shot three
protesters that are black lives matter.
Okay, so I said I thought you were asking me what I heard in
the clip. Yes, this narrative now of course well aware.
No. So I'm just telling you, that's the if you didn't worry,
I'm tapping into this case and purposely rightfully so they
just left it vague. Man shoots, Kid shoots, crosses state lines.
Yeah, cross state lines with an AR 15 Scary 17 Yeah 17 killer
kid. And he goes and shoots three people that black lives
matter rally not just by the law the odds of it if you hear that
headline, man shoots people that black lives matter rally is at
least going to be one dead black person in there. Right? Yeah,
average is
at least someone who identifies as black. You would think this
kind of like what was the kid's name that sparked the 94 crime
bill little
that is yes. Ah. You caught me on the spot but
little little little were bad. People are yelling at their
podcast app right?
No. Little yummy little yummy there. Yeah,
this is kind of Rittenhouse is the little white here. Yummy.
That's right. It's the new white is the white little yummy. Yeah,
this is it. That's exactly Oh my god. We now have 17 year old
Trump supporters.
Okay. They don't like heartless and yeah, they wanted they
wanted to conflate him with Dylann Roof.
Yeah shooter Yes, yes, there was that
did go target black people I mean, like that, that is a
factual statement that he went to a black church to target
people so they wanted that energy to roll into cow and
that's that's the end george Zimmerman so he's like a
amalgamation of George Zimmerman and and Dylan Ruth that's the
way they wanted to paint cow mmm hmm So yeah, so that's that's
what to come to find out none of the people and I've talked to
people who say you didn't you know No, no, we're black right
and they like work like
black black people. Yes. Yeah, well you know, the in a Dutch
Dutch newspapers cow Rittenhouse who who shot three black black
protesters. And it's in the newspaper
Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter do drop out and now that
protests but yeah, but it's exactly to do it's easy to do
mentally. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, it's
not it's not a it's not a just but I believe that this did open
up a small crack a little wedge and a number of people I even
saw what's her name from Young Turks.
Oh, and Annika barrier Anna.
She if Tina showed this to me, she she did a whole session. You
know, I was really wrong. And when I saw this live trial, I
thought that these were black people that he shot that I was
really wrong. I have to reevaluate my sources. That was
big of her man.
Now, what we had to do is juxtapose what we just heard in
the Jacob Blake situation, where they went over every fine to
every detail with fine teeth to look for a reason for the cop
not to be justified, and then the vagueness The cow situation.
Yeah. And it's sad because what it is is sick. Well, we have to
ask the question why do you want to manipulate me? People need to
start asking that question what did they get out of manipulating
me? Ah, and they want an outrage. But I don't know. So
let's get into who the victims were.
Three shootings, two of them. These are the men shot by Kyle
Rittenhouse the night of August 25 2020 and Kenosha 17. At the
time Rittenhouse claims he shot the protesters in self defense.
A jury will have to listen to testimony and watch reels of
video evidence before deciding. 36 year old Joseph Rosenbaum who
prosecutors say was unarmed was the first man shot by
Rittenhouse seen here in video edited and released by
Rittenhouse. His defense team Rosenbaum from Texas was living
in Kenosha friends called him JoJo he had a daughter and
fiance as Rittenhouse took off down Sheridan road. Rittenhouse
falls to the ground shoots and misses one man. Then Anthony
Huber uses his skateboard and tries to take Rittenhouse his
gun
ran up on somebody
that was blatant.
You try to take a gun with his skateboard. I mean, he's like He
comes rolling in on the skateboard. Well, I know what
this was interesting.
Because yeah, in the trial itself, the way the prosecution
tried to sell this was by saying they thought he was an active
shooter. And any everybody was doing anything they could to
bring down the active shooter, which was an interesting take.
But that's not how active shooters work active shooters
shoot. They don't like aim and not aim. They shoot
indiscriminately. And they'll empty a magazine and put it in
another one. And you know, that kind of stuff. But that was that
was clearly they were trying to manipulate what happened there.
And the skateboard. skateboard, I should say, I've seen enough
videos. Look, when I was a kid, I was a fervent skateboarder, I
can still wake surf and I still got my balance, I can still do
some things. My insurance company won't let me do it
anymore. But we never use the skateboard as a weapon. And it's
a weapon. I see people beating people with skateboards all day
long.
There's a famous movie, our pop culture classes where they call
them call kids. And one of the most famous scenes from is a man
getting beat almost to death with a skateboard. So a
skateboarder can definitely be a weapon. Oh, that's just the way
they said that. Like he tried to disarm him with the skateboard.
Like, you could take that as like he came skating in and be
like, you know,
368
What do you mean he shot it? No, he tried to whack him over the
head. And maybe that dude thought he was active shooter
but he made the wrong call. Yeah, I mean, you don't run
towards you don't you don't run to an active shooter. I mean,
you can if I have a gun maybe. But you know, as they always
say, he brought a skateboard to a gunfight. And that's it.
That's a bad idea. Now. We've talked about the the, you know,
cow, but let's talk about the men that were out there that got
shot. They don't want to talk about their arrest records we
can get into if you want to a little bit, but this is that
third wave I was telling everybody about when we talked
about the George Floyd, I think
I think we think you do need to get into this. It's important
that we get into their backgrounds because it is the
third wave. So let's do a little recap.
Okay, so the first wave is the activist they come out there
Okay, so you have an event happened to shooting like Jacob
Black or whatever, the first wave or your activist and they
come out there and they get people are charged with the
chance and the, you know, a piece No justice, no peace, that
kind of thing. Then nightfall comes second way comes in. Those
are your agent provocateurs. Those are the ones that actually
break the glass. They
were the umbrellas and the and the glass breaking devices,
right? Because once you break that glass, as we talked about
interesting a lot on the show, is once the glass breaks is kind
of metaphorical or representative of civility
breaking. And once that glass breaks, and nightfall comes here
come the third wave, which I said we're criminals. Now it
just so happens. Rosen Bohm, or whatever his name is I
mispronounce it. But he the first Joe Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe,
Joe. Yeah. Nice. They just call him just Joe. Joe. Oh, Joe, Joe.
So Joe, Joe, he's out front with the bag, when his personal
effects is the clear sign that you just been released them some
kind of facility or jail or whatnot. And he's out there
screaming shoot me in Word shoot me in Word. Um, I don't know, I
don't know, when we start panning out passes by and this
is the this. I know I'm jumping all over the place. But this is
the disingenuous part I have with people that wanted to get
involved in this case. When did we start passing out the N word?
Yeah. As anybody Yeah. And I saw black people standing around
looking down line. Didn't do it gotta be crazy. Like you're at a
black rally.
I'm shouting shoot me and word.
Right. That's the thing to do. Yeah, now, um, then you have
other other guys that also have criminal records. And it's just
it what it seems to me is this debt bail thing? No bail,
bailing people out. Okay. They keep Yeah, no. Well, they had to
keep the the ranks fool. So like, we need more bodies, like,
because nobody was interested in protesting this case.
Now should they just let Joe Joe out for this? You think
Joe Joe had a plastic bag with his personal effects in it? You
can look it up. This this is this is a fact. He had just been
recently released. I don't know if it was from a medical
institute or a jail. But he had just recently that day really
hadn't. He hadn't he sodomized young boys was not the guy.
Oh, and that's what a lot of people that's where I met with
like, Oh, he's a pedophile. I mean, like, I know, that's bad
to say but you close the door. Don't get we got to talk
a second. This is important. We have to hold on a second. Okay.
Just slammed it. There you go.
Yeah, we have to talk when the black folks start getting so
involved in white on white crime. That that's all I'm
asking. Is just amazes me how people are just so all broken up
over Joe Joe. He was saying the pedophile, not the other Joe,
not Brandon, but Jojo. Um,
you know, the other day Okay, nevermind, bad joke.
Right? It was inferred? Yes, I do. But, um, they're just so
heartbroken over a one white guy shooting three other white guys.
If you saw this, like a workplace shooting or anything
else, people are like, you know, this. That's how it goes. But
now is they scared you to the point like, oh, he was coming to
kill Black people. But you know, he didn't have a chance to? That
doesn't make any sense. And the other thing that shows me is
when you have that many shots fired, and you're hitting all
white people, maybe that's not a Black Lives Matter ref rename
it. I'm just saying I'm this is just, this is just my pure,
uncut take on this thing. And that's why I didn't get really
involved in it. Because when I saw I was like, well, it is what
it is. Um, well, I knew that
the takeaway, the takeaway far beyond anything is people have
an opinion based, they're under informed and over socialized,
this is what I've always said, they have an opinion based on a
headline, and they feel the necessity to let everyone know
that they have this opinion or that they share the same
opinion. It's, it's and it's it's just based on nothing and
and hopefully enough people feel a bit ashamed about what they
might have said or posted.
And also liking this to just the fact that we are open to do this
is the fact that I think people just pick sides based on race.
And white guys bad. And I must say this cow does have a very
punchable face. I mean, observation. I mean, he mean, we
said that in high school like God, certain guys, you just look
at him like he was like that guy. Not to say he should be
harmed, but I'm just saying that he just he has the wrong optics
or the right optics. You know, he just had that look about him.
I was Yeah, that's interesting, because I look at him I can I
totally understand what you're saying. And I can see that and
sometimes when he grimaces, especially if it's a picture and
not video. Yeah, I mean, you put the right caption under it, and
you totally see that but I also sees he's just a baby that I
also see that he's just the baby boy. Hmm. So I don't punch baby
boys. Mo Yeah. But your point is well made.
He has that face like it just that people just don't like him.
I mean, that's, that's my point. Like certain people you see
that? You just don't like he has that look almost saying this.
The media portrayed him in that way like to say that they always
caught him on his lips pucker. Teachers face so yes, the
pictures more there's more to say. But yeah, I mean, so we
could open the door now but I just want to say there we go
better. It was a lot of fake outrage and a lot of cameras. It
was a lot of black hairs out there. I'm just gonna keep it
100 Oh Lerins Oh, oh, oh. Oh, he got out. No. This is how it
works as far as self defense and gun right. You heard the joy
rebid didn't show her? Yeah, I heard them all. I mean, they
were melting now which?
I'm thinking this rumor she's getting fired.
You know who's gonna replace her? Don't tell Tiffany.
Tiffany. Yeah, Tiffany the one the one that doesn't Saturday
show. The black lady on MSNBC. She she feels infer Joy
sometimes. Tiffany, what is her name? And you caught me off
guard.
Tiffany cross.
Yes. It was going to place her. Yeah, she's
a better choice.
Cuz she is a Das. Yep. Yeah. We got it. We got it. You got to
see a lot of not a das getting people getting fired around
2022 2024 elections.
Yeah. Oh, you're so this is that's a very good prediction.
They realize that that is not working anymore. Wouldn't when
guys is white is Adam curry are falling over that. Problems. Now
it's time to change that up. Yes. Mm hmm.
And that's the other lady with the effort you were talking
about as well. Should they? They're bringing they're slowly
cycling in a new new group because they she's, she's I
think she's a badass. Yeah, I believe so. That's what I'm
saying. Like, there's they're getting a beat Team. Are the
replacements ready? Yeah. So you start to see him coming out?
Well,
it'll be fresh faces. It'll be fun. Makes television
Interesting. Yeah, I'm all for that. You want to finish this?
16 a clip. Whoa.
Yeah, let's go ahead. I'm sorry about that. Yeah, no problem.
Huber
uses his skateboard and tries to take written houses gun. He ran
up on somebody with an assault rifle there with nothing like he
was just going to tackle due to the ground,
Rittenhouse fired killing 26 year old Hooper who also lived
in Kenosha. His girlfriend tearfully spoke with 12 News.
The very next day he
already killed someone he killed someone already and then he
killed my my wife is ripped him away like
after Huber gauge goes crates of West Dallas in the crowd as a
medic approaches Rittenhouse who is still on the ground close
quotes is armed with a handgun. How shoots him in the arm. He
was the lowest
wait what did he say?
What to what about Yeah.
After Huber gauge crews crites at West Dallas in the crowd as a
medic approaches Rittenhouse who is still on the ground who's
crises armed with a handgun. How shoots him in the arm. He was
the lone survivor. I walked away with my life that night. Two
people then the judge ruled prosecutors cannot call the
three men shot victims but is allowing the defense to call
them looters writers or arsonist. They can prove it.
Reporting I'm Hillary man suddenly YsN 12 News.
Nice touch to say that he was a medic in the crowd.
That's what they portray that he was coming. He was armed. Yeah.
brandishing the arm. No,
I was trying to put him on equal footing with Kyle just a medic
who was armed.
But And also there was the reason the way I heard it was
that he was coming in to give cow aid. Yeah, he held his shot.
It was in such a blind range. He was just letting it off for
everybody,
by the way. And I did I did. Say this, um, no agenda I've been
in. I've been in court several times, but the first time and it
was a civil trial was MTV Networks suing me and I was
countersuing. And it was it was interesting, because I've never
been to discovery. I've never really been to court where the
judge and the whole vibe and everything expensive lawyers, it
was kind of crazy. It was about mtv.com domain name, different
story. And I remember the lawyer for MTV presenting their case
with the same facts that I had. And I remember sitting there
going Holy crap. Yeah, if you presented that way, I looked
like a total douchebag who's trying to steal from MTV, but
with the same facts, and I and for me, that was like, Whoa,
that's really scary stuff.
That's why I was saying Lady Justice had it. I had a serious
upskirt because people are now seeing how the sausage is made.
was a bad idea to televisie televise his trial, because it
did more harm than good to the prosecution and prosecutors
across the country because now we see, and we can being
complicit with the media, too, you know, you see the people
with this kind of propaganda we're hearing here. And we're
going to get in the next batch of clips, these next eight
clips, we can kind of speed through because there are a
segment of them that way. So it seems like a lot of clips, but
it what it does is the prosecution's claims, and see
how they line up with the two previous clips that we heard and
what a media said happened. Okay, so I got it. So this is
going back to Nate, the lawyer, and he does the, this is where
he's great about, um, he does 50 hours in 10 minutes. So he did
the 50 hours of Nice work. Yeah, so it saves you on, you know, 50
hours a minute that works for me. So what he's going to do is
we like, we can play them and then talk a little bit in
between them, but it's just gonna highlight exactly what we
heard, and those clips but from the prosecution's witnesses
standpoint, but the first two are the opening statements one
and two are the opening statements from the prosecution
and the defense so we can get into 17. First, we'll start with
the opening statements. Now opening statements are important
because it allows the jury to get a preview of what each side
is going to present, you get a preview of what the defense is
going to present, you're going to get a preview of what the
prosecutor is going to present. So the state essentially painted
Carl as a vigilante and essentially said that cow chase
down and try to kill the victims. The defendant,
Kyle Rittenhouse, who was 17 years old at the time, had armed
himself with an AR 15 style semi automatic rifle loaded with 30
rounds in the magazine. And using that rifle, he shot and
killed Joseph Rosenbaum, an unarmed man. The shot that
killed Mr. Rosenbaum was a shot to the back. occurred after the
defendant chased down Mr. Rosenbaum and confronted him
while wielding that ar 15. The evidence will show that the
defendant fled the scene of the dead body of Joseph Rosenbaum
without stopping to offer any aid whatsoever.
Yeah, well, some factually incorrect things in there.
You could put them out and then we can keep moving. I
shot him in the back and was chasing troops I shot him in the
back and was chasing him both not true.
And then he came back to the body and made a phone call. I
don't know if he was render aid but he he made a phone call. I
don't know who was calling to but but he didn't make sense. He
shot him and ran off. But we can go ahead and move on to number
two now. Now the defense attorney tried to combat that my
alleging that cow didn't chase anyone but he was the one being
chased. And he acted in self defense makes no
sense. What the state says about him hunting or chasing him down.
He's trying to get away from the individual. You'll hear
testimony, not just from Kyle Rittenhouse. But Baulch Mr.
Baulch. about Joseph Rosenbaum stating to Kyle and to Ryan
Baulch in each other's presence. If I get either of you to alone,
I'm going to kill you. Flat out threats to murder. When Mr.
Rosen bomb is shot in the car source LaGG. Three there's been
a gunshot behind Kyle. He turns to address Mr. Rosenbaum of his
firearm. Mr. Rosen balm is not deterred. He continues to right.
Now remember, arguments are not evidence. So the opening
statements, you know, you can bolster a little bit you can be
a little flamboyant. But it's really going to come down to the
witness.
Yeah, presenting in a completely different light,
different sets, we got to tell different stories. And it's
amazing that they're displaying the same the way they the way it
was broken now. So now we get to get into the witnesses. So the
only thing I could put had to pull with the prosecution
witnesses. Not bad it was it was great. So let's go ahead and get
into the first witness for the prosecution. Now, obviously,
since the state is the one alleging that Kyle did something
bad they have to put on a case in chief and prove their
allegations. So now we turn to the state's witnesses. Now since
this is a summary. Let me just tell it to you stone cold. The
state's witnesses have testified to these following things. One
that the alleged victim Joseph rose bomb chased em lunch at cow
to grab his gun.
Well, I was behind Mr. Rosenbaum and Mr. Rittenhouse was on the
other side of me in Rosemont. And so they it was clear that
they, as he lunged forward, they they almost made contact. It
wasn't clear if they did.
And your perception was that evening, if you watched it, he
was going for the barrel of the gun.
Correct. I think it was very clear to me that he was reaching
specifically for the weapon and because that's where his hands
went.
This SAP probably thought he was helping by saying that.
Well, I think no, you can say what you want to but when you
face the perjury. See, that's what that's the beautiful thing
about perjury. You can say what you want to but when you face a
time when you lie. Oops, say like, Hey, these, these dead
dude ain't worth it. I'll go ahead and give up the goods. And
that's kind of how like the power. That's the power and you
know, of jail time, the good, the good part of our justice
system. I think that you know, you just can't get up there and
say what you want to say without consequences. Because there's
been a lot of false accusations made in the media. But this is
why the trial was important to wait for
good point. We're so used to people lying that you kind of
forget that it's a big deal if you lie under oath.
That's that's the beautiful thing about it. If especially if
it can be proven. It could be years in jail. Yeah. So I think
we stopped the two let's go and get into three, two,
that the alleged victim Joseph Rosenbaum, me death threats
to cow you and my client were present when Mr. Rosen bomb
threatened you and Kyle. Correct. Correct. And he
specifically said if he got either of you alone, he would
expletive kill you.
That's correct.
Any doubt about that? No doubt about that. The FBI that? Yes.
And that was right after I'm gonna get his name wrong. Justin
had put out dumpster fire.
Correct. It was about 20 to 30 minutes before we headed south
and the shooting started. Now this testimony was so damning,
and so damaging to the prosecution's case, that the
prosecutor started challenging their own witness's credibility.
These,
these goombazz think that everybody is all in on this, I
think that your analysis is perfect, like, Hey, I'm not
gonna, I'm not gonna give up this screw these guys.
I think the prosecutor had to go through this trial. And it's
like, what do you want me to do? I mean, I had a bunch of people
that don't want to really testify the things that are not
true. We could play games with the cameras, and they know the
right in the video. And what I find disgusting in this whole
thing. Is the FBI. Were flying drones over this whole
situation.
Yep. And nothing came out and nothing was.
What was playing? What games? Are we really playing here?
Well, maybe they were, maybe they had the eye in the sky to
give instructions.
It could be that and this is very reminiscent of the same way
they were monitoring the riots in Baltimore, via drone. See, I
told you, we had a beta test, they write everything out over
it like, Okay, we're gonna run. We're running in Baltimore, see
how it goes. And if it works, we'll become operational. And
this is the kind of thing that I'm seeing is the good people in
the FBI. I'm telling you, you're going to start speaking up
because the people are getting, and when I say to people, I
mean, we always been skeptical of the phase. But it's like
people
making jokes about the FBI that way now on television openly.
Sometimes.
That's my point is like, we're losing everybody. What's your
purpose?
is respect. And then yeah, no one cares. Yeah. So
I think I thought that I think that was four or five. Yeah,
yeah, that's going getting five now. Here's Mr. McGinnis. An
eyewitness to the shooting. You don't
know. As you sit here today? What Mr. Rosenbaum was thinking,
do you mean at the time of the shooting?
Yes. Or at any point in his life? I mean, you have no idea
what Mr. Rosenbaum was ever thinking at any point in his
life. You have never been inside his head. You've never met him
before. You don't
I've never even I've never exchanged words with him. So
your question is, so
your interpretation of what he was trying to do or what he was
intending to do or anything along those lines is complete.
guesswork, isn't it?
Well, he said fuck you and then he reached for the weapon. Nice
editing mo
well done. That wasn't me. That was me. I gotta get.
Okay. No, that was
that was case closed right there. I mean, that was the end
of it and remind people, this is the prosecutors prosecution or
witnesses? Yeah. These are their witnesses, that the defense
really didn't have to do anything that
MSNBC was off at this point.
Yes, of course. Yeah. No, no, you can't hear this. We need to,
um, you know,
we need to call on us.
Yeah, we need to highlight the only good thing. So where are we
at? So we started with six.
Yeah, that no, this is this is six is now.
Okay, it's going to six. Now when the prosecution witnesses
kind of don't really help your case. The prosecutor then tried
to bring in some forensic people to disprove the fact that people
were reaching for cause gun. For instance, Mr. Huber, who also
was killed by car and house allegedly hit cow with a
skateboard and tried to grab the gun. But the prosecutor tried to
put doubt in the minds of the joy that Mr. Huber actually
grabbed the gun by saying that there was no DNA found on the
gun or none of Mr. Huber's DNA found on the gun. But that was
easily overcome, because there are pictures of Cuber trying to
grab the gun. And the witness said, just because there's no
DNA doesn't mean you didn't grab the gun.
And so the fact that I don't know where that is on the gun,
but the fact that the DNA isn't there, and everybody thinks DNA
is this thing that proves everything, you'd agree that we
can see he's actually touching the firearm.
What is your question? Well, the fact that
is not present. It I don't know where on the gun that is. But
the fact that DNA is not present in any of the areas of the
firearm for Mr. Huber, doesn't mean that he didn't actually
touch
Correct. Whether DNA was detected from an individual or
not, does not mean that they did not touch that item. Yeah, this
was a this is an oldie but goodie, they tried to do that
because everyone in the world knows. DNA solves crime.
Maddie and Dana and Medea was a has been locking people up
forever. And that and that's one of the things that they throw
out that all DNA being a prude is DNA prove that and I've
always been skeptical of DNA.
But you know, the way you know this segment of DNA and
everyone's mind don't you? Paternity Test Jerry Springer
you better believe it brother. Yeah. So they cemented that it's
like that's just real because people fight when when they use
DNA.
And this is the cornerstone of the Family Court in their power.
You see how it's all coming from
the Queen do I graduate from this college course mode? Do I
ever graduate? I guess not.
I don't want I don't want to graduate course hours man. Yeah,
I
want to work study I want to keep going. But no,
that's that's science. Basically this is when science took over
the judicial system. Uh oh, we got DNA. We got DNA. We've found
DNA you know, there's not a race somebody or find them guilty.
What did it be a next day? Yeah. And it's like, how did you
collect it, how it was stored. And we've heard the horror
stories of these labs and you know, they got they got eaten in
the lab and all kinds of stuff going on and people live hand
job. That's why the justice system has been thoroughly
exposed. And for nothing else, I take joy in it because it's not
justice. You know, the same thing. Two things can be true.
Cow Rittenhouse killed me steaming cow Rittenhouse could
have went down there with the the illest intentions. Let's
just say he was this that he got his cars and I'm going to take
me some people out and we're not going to take it anymore. Until
he that's a thought crime until he actually does something
that's a crime. You can't be found anything guilty. Correct.
And I know people may get frustrated with me by saying
that, but I kept the same energy when but with Bill Cosby. Now he
said two things could be true about Bill Cosby. He could have
been actually guilty of all the things he'd been accused of. But
if you can't get a good clean conviction, I'm not can't stand
with it. I you know, this is one of the thing and this is the
only fair way you're saying we can have equality is through the
legal system. I mean, if you hear what people say We want
justice, we want justice. But this is not justice. Dig This is
equity, and not equality and justice. The quickest
explanation is that they want the same outcomes, though so
it's Like equal outcomes to So, ah, cow looks like he's guilty.
So you need to be guilty. Now we got to go through what the what
the laws are?
Well, this is a country built on the rule of law, and we have to
get back to it. And many people talk about a two tier justice
system. And I agree with that. Now, because it's people with a
lot of money and people with no money. That's it that's has
nothing to do with race or anything. I've had it myself,
you know, there's been IRS scrutiny, you know, and they
literally said, Look, if you had $150,000, you, you could take us
to court, you'd win easily. And you wouldn't have to pay the
75,000. I'm not kidding. And you know, what, if I had the, if I
had the money to spend, I would have done it, just to say if you
IRS, even though it would have cost me twice as much.
But just imagine that if you had but this word plays out on the
lower level. If you had the money, you wouldn't have these
troubles? Oh, yes. Like I committed the crime because I
don't have any money. You know? So I got like, not enough
nonviolent drug dealing, we those kinds of things. It's
like, well, if I had the money, then I wouldn't be out here
selling weed, right?
Ah, no, I understand the cycle. This problem,
but it's just amazing to hear on a big money level of you know,
saying 75,000 $150,000 Like, you realize I don't have the money
artists would have paid the taxes. Right? You get that
point?
Well, in this case, it was a dispute. I think they were
wrong. And they were wrong. And it was a mean, and they admitted
as much. But you did you take it to trial. I'm just killed. No,
no, I know. I can't afford to do that.
I'm not get it to you. But this is the thing where we talk about
the conviction rate of how many trials how many things actually
go to trial. This legal system is built off of people playing
out. Yeah, you know, of, Oh, scary numbers. Whoo, he's 20
years. They say you did it, even if you didn't get us and it all
go away. That's what they told you even pay it if even though
you don't owe it, it'll all go away. And exactly what this is
this, this is what's being this is what's being exposed right
now. And I'm all for it. Um, so I think we stopped at six. Let's
go ahead and get into seven. Now. I don't want to understate
this fact about the first week of trial. Every witness has made
it very clear that the first victim Rosenbach was starting
fires was challenging on people and saying things like, shoot
me. And even threatens cow's life
when Mr. Rosen bomb threatened you and Kyle. Correct. Correct.
And he specifically said if he got either of you alone, he
would expletive kill you.
That's correct.
Any doubt about that? No doubt about the FBI that Yes.
And again, I want to make it very clear Bs are the
prosecution's witnesses.
Yeah, told me told the FBI that
how can you make a case for him being found guilty if the
prosecution witnesses that they chose us let date and put on the
stand are telling this story? I don't. And this goes to your
claim about mass formation. You had to be a mass formation to
buy this in the Jayco Blake situation and that
well, okay, so we saw what they did during the trial we saw
certainly what they did and we heard what they said after the
trial would they I mean, M five M, but specifically MSNBC and
CNN. And in mass formation from what I understand from Muttiah
Professor De Smet who, who taught us this it's actually the
more absurd the better. So the more absurd things you ask
people to do in maths formation ie tell people that you know,
this is exactly the opposite and that this is totally racial and
etc, etc. That it just They're going along with it they cannot
help themselves. But then you get like the Anna from from
Young Turks. She was breakable. She broke out of the mass
formation I got my eye on her she's very interesting not let's
see what happens because she all of a sudden, and she because she
didn't just break through said you got to question your
sources. No kidding.
And I'll say um, yeah. I think you can break through it, but
you just have to keep hammering Weighing hammer away. And that's
why I did this show and the way I'm doing it, that a lot of
people have not heard these facts. Normally I don't get in
the weeds on the blow by blow, and I didn't get into them here
as well, you know, breaking down all this with the skateboard or
whatnot, as I want you to hear the prosecution's witnesses. Say
what happened? If you hear that and walk away from this seeing
it any kind of other way, as far as what happened legally? I
don't know. I mean, I had to pray for you to break out of the
mass formation, I mean, because
well, the 30 Strong going to 30% that are in mass formation
cannot get into it will not get them out. You can't convince
them the 40% that just go along with it. Yes. And I think that
this this show, in particular is great material for someone to
help other people who, who they know are just kind of going
along with it. And because that's really the breakdown,
according to the professor 30% Completely hypnotized can't
change their mind, forget about it not worth it. 40% go along
with the program. 30% That's us. Okay, and so so the 30% can use
that on the 40% Because then all sudden you have 70% then doesn't
matter.
And we just keep chipping away at it. And the way to do that is
and I'll say this using good information, because I think bad
information and you run it you've ran into this a couple of
times can't tell the derailed, you know, a no trying to help
somebody because once they find anything they revert back to
automation, they're going to go running back to the off out one
little flaw. And this is how in fact checkers work. Because I
when I looked at the fact checkers for this thing, and
victims, Mitch, give me the people that were shot. It was
like oh, yeah, they were pedophiles, but kinda like that.
pedophiles. Yeah, it was like
minor attracted persons.
Oh, don't you gotta get me on a whole nother.
trigger for me. Yeah. Hard trigger for my hair. Move on.
Yeah, so number eight. Now, let's talk about the defense.
The defense seems to just be watching the trial like we all
are, they're not objecting to really anything. They're just
letting everything kind of go fast and loose because they got
a simple self defense claim here. Now, you'll see most of us
attorneys are a little frustrated that the defense is
kind of just letting everything go rough shot, but that's okay,
because they still, I believe, have a winning case. Now
remember, at the beginning of this video, when I showed you
the prosecutor saying that cow chase down Wilson bomb, and then
shot him kind of like indiscriminately? Well, it's
interesting that all of their witnesses, all the prosecution's
witnesses have rebooted the prosecutors opening statement.
So at this point in time, I don't know where this trial was
going to go from here. When you have all your witnesses saying
that the kid acted in self defense, why are we here? Why
are we here? This doesn't seem like a murder trial.
Yeah, there's your question. Why are we here?
I'm gonna get to that. But what we have to do first is provide
some perspective for the people with the 40% that may not get it
now, but may get it eventually. But you have to seek first to
understand and be understood. I'm going to get to that. But I
need to make this one quick point. The defense did do
something in this case, they tell a cow get up on that stand
and give it up. Give up the goods cry like nobody's
business. Now, I'm not saying it wasn't genuine, but they
probably don't know to hold it back. You get that feeling?
Because I think that's what did it. Um, like you say, you can't
you can't put your baby. He put he put that be crying Oh, just
say, Look, I'm just a kid, you know, and he broke, he broke. He
broke he they broke him. Yeah. To the point of and then. I
think that's that's what defense told him because there's no
other reason for him to go on that stand other than to cross
this
makes this makes sense to me, because I knew there were two
prosecutors or two lawyers for the defense. And I really didn't
like the goombah guy. And the thing that I didn't like about
him is he would say stuff, like, Come on people. You know, and I
heard that I'm like, does that work on juries? He's like, come
on, people. I didn't like it. I was like, I don't think I like
him. And this is exactly the kind of guy that could. I think
we need to give him a lot more credit because he probably teed
Kyle up. No one told Kyle to do that because you can't what he
that was real emotion. But did the goomba guy tee him up? I
totally believe that. Totally.
What I'm saying is they said don't hold it back. Yeah, I
think that gave him the same speech they give a Don Don Lemon
and Van Jones If you feel it coming back and just go with the
go with the feeling well
hell yeah of course it's
the same point and like I said when you face in life in jail it
don't take you much to cry so I'm not saying it was
disingenuous but now they teach me the tedium of course no those
those tears with courtesy and he was
soon it was super triggering it was if you're if you're going to
do a an OP anyway, plus trigger the heck out of people and that
and that and that it worked on all sides. If you were pro Kyle,
you've oh my god the poor kid. If you hated Kyle, like I look
at this full of crap. I mean, like, King James King James even
tweeted about it.
Yeah, so I mean, that's that's what I think defense D is like a
you're gonna get you bought there and don't hold back. Now
just let me cuz I'm sure he's been crying the whole time.
Sure. I mean, I would probably be crying behind closed doors in
life. He was at you you had this morning to be like, I'm facing
life in prison. Yeah, like I'm not gonna get Kingsmill
jail for three months. Yeah, right.
So but now I'm gonna provide perspective. Because people may
be saying, well, how did this kid get off when we see so many
other cases of bullcrap, you know, charges in the legal
system, screwing young kids over? One case being this team
that was thrown and violent New York prisons.
Now we have an eyewitness news exclusive a travesty, a young
boy thrown in jail as a 16 year old high school sophomore. Now
more than three years later, this young man is free criminal
charges completely dropped. And good evening again at 530. I'm
Diana Williams. And I'm showing a better and why it is an
outrageous case of justice derailed. How could it take
three years for prosecutors in the Bronx da 's office to figure
out they didn't have a case while a teenager sat in jail on
Rikers investigative reporter Sarah Wallace Joining us now
with her exclusive story, Sarah. Well,
Diana and Shadi the Bronx T 's office is refusing to say
anything about this case, using the excuse that Kalief Browder
has now filed a civil rights lawsuit. He was a teenage kid
walking home from a party literally snatched off the
street and charged with robbery. It was a weak case from the very
beginning.
I spent three new years in it three for my birthdays. I spent
a lot of holidays in it.
20 year old Kalief Browder maybe physically free but mentally he
is still trapped behind bars on Rikers where every day was a
battle to survive
very hard when you deal with this dude this does wild toy and
they the big ones and they got weapons and shakes it in their
gangs it you know if you don't give you a phone call up or you
don't give him what he wants, you know, they're gonna jump you
because he got about other 50 other gang members is very
scary.
This was what maybe 10 years ago or something
it was 2016 I want to say okay, it was 15 Somewhere around there
maybe or maybe off my date but wow this gives perspective for
people to say how does this kid get off what killing three
people we had to seek first understand
and this kid didn't even get to trial for three years. He get
to trial for three years on on a stolen bookbag and this kid went
through hell in jail so I'm just providing perspective now for
how people can see it through a racial lens to say the court
system is awesome boy well
well but also let's be real where was a referral?
Well, I'll say I think Jay Z in them did some Oh they did my you
know after the fact but your great point and that's the other
thing man
cuz you know why because there was no racial angle there was
only there was there was only a poverty angle and a kid angle
that's all right was no no racial angle. So no one gave a
shit the media didn't care. The Reverend didn't care. Nobody
cared this poor kid just rotting away.
And that's what now you understanding how people can get
to the point where they don't care about cow. Because it's
like, nobody cared about him Khalif so why should why should
we care about cow? You know? I mean, he's sitting there for
three years waiting on trial, why can't he see? I'm just
providing perspective for how people can just be so hard and
with their viewpoint of how this this didn't turn out the way
they wanted it to turn out people also
have very poor historical recollection. Yes. You know,
people really don't remember stuff past two weeks ago. And
that's not that's not a crazy to understand, because of the
amount of information we're processing as human beings, to
taking on way more information in our brains and meant to take
on. You think about man and nature. But that's a whole
nother story for another day. But let's get into the second
part of Kalif store
in May of 2010. He was a 16 year old 10th grader walking home on
Arthur Avenue in the Bronx after a party. The guy comes
out of nowhere says I robbed them. And the next thing you
know they put the cost model when notice do it then I do
three years, over three years for something I didn't even do
it
routers family couldn't make the $10,000 bail on the robbery
charges. And he had a legal aid attorney router is now
represented by so
I got to stop. Okay. So this is what I'm hearing now. Now it
starts to make sense. So if we don't have a racial angle, then
we don't give a shit about the case. The mainly Democrats who
are behind all of this racial politicization, they feel so
guilty about these cases that they'd say, Well, we've got to
do something for them to you know, we're fixing everything by
using the race angle. But, you know, if there's no racial angle
to we'll just make sure that everyone gets out of jail and
you can you know, that you can get amnesty. You never have to
go to jail. Steel up to $950 worth of stuff.
Is that a possibility? That's yeah, that's why I'm on the
equity. They want out Yes,
yeah. outcry? Oh,
justice. Yeah, is it we want people to be set free, black
guys go free all the time. We want black guys go free all the
time. That kind of thing. I gotcha. I gotcha. But what they
don't do is they don't understand that these people are
just gonna go back to their communities and victimize the
people again. And again, and again and again. And again.
You're only gonna make your neighbors worse. I'm gonna
restart the
clip. Yeah, in May of 2010. He was a 16 year old 10th grader
walking home on Arthur Avenue in the Bronx after a party.
The guy comes out of nowhere says I wronged them. And the
next thing you know they put in the cost model and notice do and
then I do three years over three years for something I didn't
even do with
routers family couldn't make the $10,000 bail on the robbery
charges. And he had a legal aid attorney Browder is now
represented by civil rights law firms. What was bad about this
case?
Pretty much everything. One witness identification from a
stranger. No evidence, no property recovered.
months turned into years. He tried to commit suicide several
times.
It was just all balling in my head to the point where I just
like I just like I had to just grab my head like I can't take
it.
He missed his sister's wedding. The birth of his nephew and so
many family events in January Browder says he was offered a
plea deal after 33 months in jail he refused
the judge she was trying to give me time serving I wasn't taking
it and she told me if I if I lose trial I could get 15 years
just take the time served you go home today if you say you did I
didn't do I'm not I'm not saying I did.
Back to jail in June he was suddenly freed with no
explanation.
No apology. No nothing they just said Oh, Case dismissed. Don't
worry about nothing like what do you mean don't worry about it. I
just took over three years of my life
he's now trying to make up for those three high school years he
lost taking courses to get his GED
I didn't get to go to prom graduation nothing those are the
main years I'm never going to get those years back never never
be interesting to have a follow up see what happened with him
he killed himself he was facing another charge and killed
yourself well he went back to ah that's what I'm saying. Now you
are now if I say seek first to understand then to be
understood. Now when people
say that slowly say that slowly.
See freak first to understand then to be understood. Got it.
You have to understand the perspective of people are saying
here's some bull crap the cow got off because they hear
stories like this and hear how the justice system jerking them
around. And it's not that there is you've get so beat down in
your mindset that you don't want better you just want worse for
other people.
How is it that you see these things so clearly when it's so
obvious how traumatize most African Americans so called
Black people are because
I just go off the facts.
I know that that's your pride. I'm just wondering what what
what what did you not eat or what did you eat as a kid? What
was it? Because you're truly exceptional. It's very That's so
fucking astute how you bring this to light. You don't have to
answer that you don't have to answer that
question. cuz I want to help people, other people understand
that don't get caught up in mass formation, like for the turn of
the coin mass formation that explains the condition. Yeah.
And it's on all sides it's on. Everyone's in a form of it's
somewhere
cray. And then we just manipulate the ones and zeros in
the binary world, the arm to get them to act the way we want. And
then once you're dissatisfied for the justice for everybody
introduce this is a throwback clip clip for 59. But this is
the solution right here, algorithms.
One particularly popular and now widespread algorithm is used at
the point of arrest, to make bail decisions. And conceptually
to pretty simple idea. A defendant who's been charged
with a crime is information is extracted from them and is fed
into a computer algorithm. And that computer algorithm outputs
a risk factor. And that risk factor is meant to quantify the
likelihood that that person will commit a crime in the future.
Think of a really simple version of the Minority Report. Without
the creepy people in the pools, and if you are assessed to be
high risk, well, then the judge may deny bail and you will be
held in prison awaiting trial. And if you are assessed to be
low risk, then you may be released, pending trial. Now, in
2016, investigative journalist from Pro Publica published a
troubling report on one particularly popular and
widespread predictive algorithm that is used in the courts
around this country. And what they found is that this
particular algorithm was significantly disadvantageous to
black defendants. What they found is that if you were a
black defendant, you are nearly twice as likely to be predicted
as reoffending when you did not, that happened 44% of the time,
if you're black, and only 23% of the time, if you are white, that
is a staggering difference. And at the same time, you were
almost twice as likely to be predicted as not offending when
in fact, you did if you are white, as compared to black that
happened 47% of the time, versus 28% of time. So in other words,
the algorithm is biased to black defendants against black
defendants.
Hey, you ready for it? You ready for revelation? Here we go. With
the algorithms, they may already be able to, but certainly will
be able to literally dial up or dial down violence whenever they
want it whenever they need
it. Which we saw you think about this, what we saw Kenosha and
and you know, in a manual way less, well, we need more
criminals on the street, let them go let them free.
Right, but I mean, they can predict exactly who they need.
They can predict where they need them. What they will do. And
then Dude, we just start a telegram group or a WhatsApp
group or whatever, hey, this is the official, official group of
the protest. You send people individual messages, they can
totally dial this up or down. And it's it's the easiest way to
control the situation. And I think they were manifesting. And
we're still not done with the RB trial, which is a whole nother
problematic. And I said, problematic. I want to kill
myself now. It's going to be a problem. That one.
I'm just interested to see how it's going to go. Um, the case
pretty much is x i don't comment on a case to that that's over
because you never know what it can be presented. But But yeah,
so now here's the case. Now this is the Texas Shooting School
shooting. That happened recently.
Breaking developments that school shooting authorities
racing to the scene in Arlington, Texas, outside
Dallas, this time at timberview High School The gunfire ring out
early this morning. One of the victims shot a young English
teacher he is 25 years old. Tonight. He's in the hospital a
15 year old in the hospital to who had been in critical
condition. Now we're covering in the ICU word of an active
shooter reaching police just after nine this morning armed
officers running inside. The suspect quickly identified as an
18 year old student at the school fleeing in a car,
triggering a massive hunt and a warning that he was armed and
dangerous. Students and teachers barricaded themselves with doors
the chairs and desks and behind those doors huddling there in
the dark outside a massive law enforcement response securing
the school getting the injured medical help. Law enforcement
rushing to his home nearby. They did not find him there. Tonight
after searching for hours the gunman turning himself in and
what we've now learned ABCs Marcus more leading us off here
from Texas tonight. Tonight a shooting a There's Arlington,
Texas high school leaving four people hurt.
This is not a random act of violence. This is not somebody
attacking our schools.
Official saying it all started around 915 This morning,
authorities now reviewing videos posted to social media appearing
to show a fight
we believe right now preliminary that it was a student that got
into a fight and drew a weapon is bop bop bop. that six out of
six seven sides back to back. Yeah.
Did you hear about this case? Yes. Yes, I did. So it was a
weird thing going on where they didn't want to call him a school
shooter and you know, that kind of thing. But the reason why I'm
bringing this up is it connects to the cow Rittenhouse case
because I want to highlight some What about isms? On both sides.
So the way I did it last on the last set of clips was well look
at Khalif and look at cow What about Khalif? What about what
happened to cleave? Now in this case?
If it was a white kid who had done this, right?
Or is her own cow sit in jail for what four months? Or how
many months? He said in jail months? Three months? Give me
three months. And now there's kids out get kids out the next
day after doing a school shooting? Yeah. This this is
that what you're talking about? They're playing with these
algorithms and news stories to keep people in a constant state
of just outright outrage. That's a great word is constant
outrage. And what about isms? And what reason why I'm bringing
this up was when Kyle got out of jail. You saw him celebrating
with his friends whatnot and his picture and they have almost
identical picture of this. So right you're so right. Yeah,
celebrate having a party I think gets out of jail. And it's just
a Spider Man meme of important that each other and they do this
they play this. Play it off each other so we can get into the
number 29
Timothy George Simpkins has been released after posting bond. The
18 year old is accused of shooting three people at
timberview High School in Arlington yesterday. Two
students and a teacher were all taken to the hospital. One of
those victims at 15 year old student remains in the ICU.
Police say all three victims are expected to recover Simpkins is
facing three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly
weapon. Police say he pulled out a gun after a fight with another
student the school was put on lockdown while police searched
for him. He eventually showed up at a local police station with a
lawyer to turn himself in. Investigators say the gun they
believe he used was found two miles from the school along a
street in Grand Prairie classes are canceled at Timber view
today and counseling has been made available to students and
staff
yeah Wow. Yeah, no I heard I heard about it because it's a
Texas story but i i right away new like okay, I got you can
tell on the reporting. There's no description of the of the of
the shooter. It's like, okay, we know exactly what's going on
right away and
the charge is either there will be attempted murder. I mean, I
would think that would be the the charge to give him button.
But it's known as assault with a deadly weapon, which is like
That's weird. Um, but this is like, I only highlight those to
show the What about isms? And this is what divides people and
keeps people on the two sides. And this is purposely done by
the media. This is this is all what go back this only lands to
your whole point of this being a sign up. Yep. With that said,
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Laurie, and may asks, What is this? And I think that's a very
good question. You said it's a CYA, which I do agree. But I
think this is also has a primary motive. And I think Joy Reid
tipped her hat in this recent clip.
Alright, everybody. Good evening. We begin the readout
tonight with two cases, which will once again tell us where we
are as a country, whether armed primarily white right there.
I mean, that's it. This is the complete set off two cases. It's
they're doing a and b and triggering off each other. Am I
close? No. Yeah, but what we want because you stepped on a
little bit. Back. Okay.
All right, everybody. Good evening. We begin the readout
tonight with two cases, which will once again tell us where we
are as a country, whether armed primarily white men can continue
to take matters into their own hands and serve as Judge jury
and executioner legally under the law. Yeah, there's the trial
of teenage vigilante Col. Rittenhouse were jurors just
moments ago broke for the day vigilante on the trial of father
and son Greg and Travis McMichael and their neighbor
William Roddy Bryan, they stand accused of murdering 25 year old
Aman arbory. And what many have called a modern day lynching.
The dream and claim that this was just a citizen's arrest gone
wrong. Rittenhouse has pleaded not guilty, claiming self
defense. The prosecution argued that Rittenhouse was a chaos
tourist who lied about what happened that night and provoked
the initial interaction with Rosenbaum which set in motion
the chain of events that night in August of last year. Since
then, Rittenhouse has become a right wing hero. Mark and
Patricia McCloskey remember them the St. Louis couple pardoned by
Donald Trump when he was president for aiming guns at
Black Lives Matter protesters. Well, they've showed up the past
few days to support Rittenhouse. They claimed that the teenager
who might do shot and killed two people is the real victim the
victim of canceled culture. And another weird twist, Rittenhouse
actually participated in choosing the final 12 men and
women who will decide his fate by pulling numbers from a
tumbler like a macabre game show The 60 randomly chose become
alternates
well, you want to know what I heard. Great Great. So this was
almost like it's almost like a one two punch setup. We get
Erica we get the poster boy for looks like as you pointed out
total vigilante totally believable he's, you know, he
hangs out with a junior proud boys. I mean, you can totally
see it homegrown violent extremist the kind of January
six type person and arms white man and then the Aubrey case
which from what I've read. I've seen almost zero coverage of it
from what I've read. Sounds like those guys should they they
murdered this guy unlawfully. And so that's very powerful to
have those two cases one after another. Regardless even it's
kind of like well, okay, that one didn't work. Now. This one
you know, this is so clear that even Republicans can see it. And
you know, that will be a very powerful trigger, depending on
the outcome of that trial.
And what they really want it was coming out of November, the
elections they will, Virginia took over a lot of your sand a
lot of political real estate, you would have had the school
year going, you know, going in CRT firmly and planet, you would
have had, um, um, the vaccines, the key is getting jabbed, I
mean that the Democratic side was supposed to be on a roll
right now you get kiled. And you get the Auburn guy, murderers or
people just being accused of murdering them. You get these
all these books, man slam dunks, but everything's around for
them. And I think they're like, dang it. Like, we took Elon
Virginia, which was big. We took air with this cow written our
case, we took our critical race theory. That's very interesting.
Your your, your, your, you're saying here that these trials
were scheduled? Autonomous? Yeah, I like that. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. That just makes it a bigger, bigger thing than I
thought. Yeah. Okay. That's very good.
Right. So I'm next to the esoteric thing on his blood room
moon that comes around every I think five or six years. You got
you got it all going.
That's a custom. That's custom. On the spot, but I think that's
the point of what they want it but the whole goal is the guns,
the whole and cushy view. If you listened to that beginning that
clip again. The first mate
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's white men with guns, arms.
What she said, Listen what she said again. Oh,
alright. So my second. 31
Yeah. All right, everybody. Good evening. We begin the readout
tonight with two cases, which will once again tell us where we
are as a country whether armed primarily white men can continue
primarily white men. Were coming for all the guns. Yeah. And
that's the that's the fool's errand or the foolish logic that
you think you're gonna be able to keep your guns and only gonna
say, white people guns? I don't think so. They're coming for
everybody's guns. Well, is every time?
Well, this is part of the crossing state lines that they
keep talking about. That's that's that's dropped in there
specifically to talk about a legal thing that has to change.
We need a federal law for guns passing across state lines.
Yeah. Because you can do that. That's that's one power the
United States President has and, and the federal government in
general can make laws about interstate travel. And it could
be an interesting way of doing it. It's kind of an OSHA way of
mandating the shot, but okay, we'll see how it goes.
And I'm glad you brought to OSHA because to be honest with you,
the only thing keeping the needle out of our arms is guns.
Let's just keep it 100. I mean, we would be Australia if it
weren't for guns right now. On a lot of issues. Yeah,
I'm sad to say to agree.
They have to get rid of the guns and they're trying to do it any
way possible. And I keep stressing the MS and NBC. The MS
stands for Microsoft. Who's over Microsoft, Dr. Bill. Hey, what
is guns? Anytime you start taking away China take away my
second amendment right? No, I can't get on board with that.
No, no, no, because that's our thing. Protect your first
amendment right. See, that's badass. But this is what they
want you to say look, white people are the only people that
have second amendment rights or first amendment rights and we
take away from them to you be equal equity. I don't want it
that way. No, no,
no me neither mo once again, we're so similar
the way I want this to go down I want all the privileges granted
to me by my rights don't take my rights away and their rights
away to make us equal No, and that's why I can't get on board.
There's MSNBC did this piece a while ago and I've been this is
where I like I think, right around 2019 2020 on black
militia groups.
Oh, I saw some of this. Yeah. Huh.
Did they start with us? Yeah, they start with this was the
this was the our scary black people with guns before they did
this scary white people with guns 32.
Now are the concerns of another community that too often feels
unprotected and the group that's stepping up to do something
about it? They're known as they NF AC and unarmed all black
militia. You might have seen an armed blacked militia that you
might have seen it protests in Georgia, Kentucky and DC.
Joining us now from Atlanta with more on this. NBC News
correspondent Morgan Radford. Morgan, tell us about this group
make a good morning. The bottom line is this group says that the
US government as well as law enforcement simply does not do
enough to protect black Americans in this country, which
is why they say they're taking matters into their own hands.
And interestingly, Mika, this is a group that is growing, they
say they now boast recruits in nearly every single state. So we
decided to go and embed with them and see exactly what
they're doing and why. Take a listen. The sound of war right
here at home. This is the NF AC an all black militia with a
mission to defend the black community by any means
necessary.
So this is training for one of the
appearing by the 100 protests from Stone Mountain Georgia to
Louisville, Kentucky, demanding justice for police killings and
countering what they believe is the threat of right wing
militias.
Yeah, remember this? Yeah.
So they're MSNBC is embedded their word? Yeah, you
only do that with friendly soldiers?
Well, I think they appear to be friendly, which I think is more
to this story. So um, this is when you had a dice. They're
scary black people popping up with guns and they had poor
trigger. control what is called when you don't have your finger
in the trigger, what does that call? I call that what's the
what's the word trigger?
My finger your trigger? Yeah. What's
it called something control trigger something. But anyway, I
don't want to belabor the point. But it was I think people got
shot and it was errantly and it's just, it was, it is stumped
to me. I'm like, Where does this come out of, you know, out of
the blue. And I'll get more into it on the other side of this
clip, but just the high heel to me.
It's a movement started in 2017. By this man, former musician and
Army veteran John Grandmaster Jay Johnson, is the
movement growing by leaps and bounds. We met
with him outside of Cincinnati, where he says another new
chapter is now in the works.
We're in a phase C stands for the not effing around coalition,
what's behind the name uniface. He was born out of the last four
years under the Trump administration, the
deterioration of racial relations in this country, it
means that you're preparing yourself to defend yourselves.
While the group style echoes the Black Panther Party of the 1960s
their goals are distinct, focusing on defense with the
ultimate goal of a black ethno state.
What makes us so different is that our goal is our own
government, our own country a place where we can determine our
own
future is violence an option to reach your goals
the United States was built on violence being an option
violence should be the last option. We talked
about this group that they they tried to buy some land and build
like a new
new with the land back. Now that was that was also mfac They they
tried to buy land I know I know the land but yeah, in Texas,
they were gonna try and buy something. Okay. But this guy
Jam Master Jay or whatever his name great grand master Grand
Master. Yeah, you know? Could be the same guy you don't know.
It's so comical because you can tell on YouTube. YouTube's
algorithm is a great detection mechanism for who they're trying
to push to you. Okay, because you will see just people pop up
in your your suggestion feed. I saw this with six nine, the
rapper. Um, Takashi six, nine, they just bombarded you. Um, I
only noticed God only listened to his music while he showed up
in my feed. Now this guy was just all over my feed. From
you're saying from the things that are interesting. I watch.
I'm like, Who is this guy? And like, he's talking all reckless.
And it's just like, I mean, you just have certain vibes on
people. It's like you You lead and knock people into a burning
house. You're saying to take a quote from Martin Luther King.
Like you don't have any strategy. And then they say, Oh,
this is copping up from the last four years. If you said the last
400 years, I might have liked it would have went over smoother.
Right? You see the last four years that sounds political to
me. Wow, all of a sudden the last four years and point.
Trayvon Martin was four years ago. along with four years ago,
the Baltimore riots was longer than four years ago. You know,
the shootings in Baton Rouge and Dallas was longer than four
years ago. So don't play these games with me. You see, I'm
saying but I'll let you get on to the final clip. It just this
guy just didn't sit with me when I heard.
Extremism experts say the group is distinct from far right
militias,
they have not risen to the level of concern of say, the three
percenters the Oathkeepers they have not engaged in violence. In
fact, most of their of their demonstrations, they have in
fact coordinated activities with police
when you talk about January six, and we saw those writers stormed
the Capitol. What do you say to critics who say you're no
different from them? They're extremists. You're extremist
show me
where we have done those things. They've killed people. They
disrespected the government to the point where they have
invaded its sacred halls show me where
they disrespected the government, the same government
you're trying to overthrow I'm confused. I'm confusion here.
See is these You gotta listen to what people say? Well, I'm gonna
say I'm also looking
at some of the pictures you remember, they they were at the
Stone Mountain, and they weren't going to let Trump do his speech
there. And it was a whole bunch of crap for these guys.
Right? And I'm not I'm not saying him he represent this is
kind of like black lives matter. Black lives matter. Yes, sure
kind of thing where you have people that really are into guns
and protection and you know, first second amendment that you
know, that may share the same, you know, thoughts on you know,
protect my sales, but then they get sucked up into these. I'm
gonna call it what it is a honeypot. This guy was saying
and it was a lot of a lot of agent claims around him in the
in certain survey, I can see why. Right? So is but for who is
the question? So is it I saw what was going on here. Let's
get a bunch of scary black people together and get with
guns and go make confrontation at Stone Mountain which they
have the right to the same way cow had the right to form a
militia and protect you know, their property and protest. It's
legal, it's legal. But it's the way he did it. It had me it's
like it was a it was setting them up to fail. And you can
hear more of that all in the clip. We have
done those things. They've killed people, they disrespected
the government to the point where they have invaded it
sacred halls show me where we've done those things. Because we
have done none of them. What are you all training
for? We're training for self defense, a response to show they
won't be scared or unprotected any longer. Mika, we asked the
group several times to give us an exact number of their
membership, they refuse to do so. But it appears to be in the
1000s based on the number of people who have come to their
marches, and also based on the number of people who saw at one
individual training session. But it's also important to note Mika
that the mfac has no record of violent incidents. However,
their leader Grandmaster J has been recently indicted on
federal charges by federal officials who alleged that he
pointed a rifle at officers during that demonstration and
supported Bianna Taylor in Louisville, Kentucky last
September. That case is ongoing. He says pleaded not guilty. And
we are waiting to find out the results of that case, Mika.
That gave me the same vibes as the proud warrior leader being
extracted right before January 6, it's like who are these
people?
This reminds me of I did a documentary in 90 or 91. And
part of it was in Florida near Miami. And we were going to
interview this group. And as it turns out, this is the kind of
group that you see on television. Well, so this group
of Cubans Cuban exiles, who ever since the revolution, and you
know, they came over to the United States, they've been
making sure they've been practicing every weekend, they
go out deep into the swamps and they get together and they shoot
and they do military drills, etc. And so we came in as a
documentary crew kind of it was like a, like a kind of a rock
and roll type documentary. So just show just doing cool stuff.
And it's like, let's go check out these Cuban guys who are
shooting shit up. Someone's like Civil War reenactment only what
they're doing is they're staying prepared for 40 years. They're
staying prepared for the you know the revolution when they
need to go and take back their their country. And he would see
these guys whenever there's something going on with Cuba.
They show these guys You know, it's a version of that. And it
would be the same guys. And you know they're shooting weird left
and right is totally uncoordinated. Not like these
guys and fac would you know they had a down? Also younger, but
it's the same mechanism. And it's perfect for for really it's
a news it's a television news mechanism. It's really good,
it's effective.
Right and they want it to use them to play off of the white
militia, especially going on a stone mountain.
Exactly. And you you keep these guys funded for years and years
by making sure they get some guns or whatever they need, you
know, hook them up a little bit they keep them going.
And the funny thing was and this goes go to show you the actual
value of guns when you got on black men and on white man
together nobody got shot. Yeah, no
surprisingly like in Michigan. They were all outside the
state the Capitol. Right? That's, that's equality. Yeah,
it
was black guys, white guys all strung out. They're all you
know, military garb. All looking the same. Yeah.
Right. But that's, that's a quality right there. I got guns,
you got good. You're saying? Yeah, we can see how it go. And
but you know what, we have stuff we have to take care of when we
walk away from here. So we Cooler heads prevail. Yeah. So
that's, that's what they don't want to happen. But I've seen
this before. And we covered this in the show. And we just go
through these clips, right quit. But this is just a throwback to
what I think this. What's happening with the whole white
militia. We saw this before with the Black Panthers.
In early 1967, the Black Panthers organized armed patrols
through the poorest neighborhoods of Oakland,
California, and act that some called the beginning of the
modern gun rights movement, car
walk up to the scene. Those who had rifles will carry that in
the open and clearly visible,
will stand at a distance where the police couldn't say they
were interfering with their wrist or the retention of the
individual. And make sure that there's no brutality. The police
were confronted by citizens who are not just voicing their
opinions. But were harmed.
No, can I close the door for a second? Sure. How long in the
future? Do you plan these shows? I mean, this is that's 20 shows
ago. And so just tell me how you like 10 episodes ahead. 15.
It doesn't work quite like that. But I can see open folders and
throw stuff in them. Like that's gonna come back around. That
kind of thing. So, yeah,
I like how you roll. All right. Thank you. Sorry, everybody.
We're back. Yes. So I can see how this thing sets up is that
we want the guns. And my issue with that is you taking my gun
leave me completely unprotected. And this is how GvG created
itself. That this is the only way I can protect you say you
say not you, but they say that I'm the most vulnerable, most in
need of protection. So give me a gun. And the allow me to protect
myself
and the use of these guys. And this whole concept to take them
away.
Yes, it's beautiful. And they just keep the cycle going and
going and going and going and going. We don't have to get into
the second clip that just I just want to illustrate that we've
seen this before you heard and we're saying that was the
beginning of the modern gun control. Black Guy Show guns at
the state house up we got to do some white guy show up to the
Capitol with guns. We got to do something about it and Nast. And
they're going to take our guns with him. And it's like no, you
can't have my gun because at the end of the day, that's the only
way I can protect myself and I will be honest with you. And
this may be a hot take right here but I won't more coward
houses in the black community. And what I mean by that is black
young men that will go to in the face of violence and say no
more. That was a you know what it was 40 shootings in Chicago
today. This weekend. No more. We're gonna listen and we're
gonna show our own neighborhoods, weapons,
which was a group of dads I saw a group of dads recently.
Thank you. What was I forget their name but they were down in
Louisiana I believe. Yeah. And they showed up and said no more.
That's exactly what this young man the young man say that No,
you're not Oh, no, we're gonna have guns we're gonna be and now
what be trained. I want to put guns. It's not a young black man
as early as possible. Guess what? Because guess what is
happening with this. And on the other side, like cow
Rittenhouse, you can say what you want to about him, but he
got busy with that stick. You can say what you want to know
about him. But he got busy with respect to shooters, I just
gotta say it. I mean like when rap songs all that we respect
the shooter and us and pull up with the stick and all that cow
he was he was he was about what he said he was about. He pulled
up. But what I'm saying I'm not saying in a negative way for
young black men, but to take control. And that's how you
don't need to please but
I love because you know, we've been talking for going on two
years. I love and you really started it for me. But you know
not J lock at 100. He's out there saying black men, young
black men got to stand up is more and more and more saying
this out loud. And it's I'm hearing it. I hear you MO
You see me? Do you see me? No, I
don't. I've never seen no, that's not a fair question.
No, I'm just saying, but that's what's scary about them because
then you don't need a police state. And then you get the man
reinstated in the house. And then that disrupts their power
structure, which is basically the basis of white supremacy.
And you're so right, the one we're a government. I mean,
that's Yeah,
well, it's the it's, I'm calling it the GP three. I know it's a
new one, I'm working on it. It's the global private public
partnership. So it's really it's, it's going to be policy
set by governments, and the money is all run by commercial
companies. And we're and will be 100% controlled. So that's that
that's really the ultimate goal. But Australia, it's interesting,
you brought that up because Australia, and I didn't and
again, Mr. Documentary in the 90s. I did. Australia and it did
some very interesting things. And I really loved it. And this
was before they everyone. I mean, and I know that
oversimplification of what happened with guns in Australia,
but let's just say people gave up their guns voluntarily. And
it was such a cool place. It was a mix of you could feel like
American ism is there. But also British clear, obviously. Some
of the props, some of the traditions of the British, which
I like. And then something called jellified, the cozy kind
of Dutch vibe, it all had all these elements and, and you'll
see British people, American people and Dutch people living
there too. They they everyone can feel that. That changed any
and their event was a mass shooting, it was horrible. And
and of course, we saw the same happened with New Zealand just a
few years ago. And now you see what happens when you give it
up.
You may I heard you make this point. I don't. I don't remember
what show it was on. But I heard you make this point of
Australians and I don't want to castigate Australians in this
way, but they started off as a penal colony he had Dvorak said
this actually okay. Yeah. And I think he was a very astute and
as a parallel there with with the black community if you don't
start off as a full citizen, if your Genesis is less than a full
citizen Yeah, you give up your rights a lot easier. And this is
what I was born with, you know how white man carry things is
like these are my rights and they stand on it because in
America white man like these I've always had all my rights.
Australia didn't didn't always had a rights they were they were
a penal colony, which he was and they were prisoners and then got
free.
And I think, sadly, the, the black American experience, which
you know, you you know, you know, the history of your
family, this has been passed on but that has been hijacked into
a shitty ass narrative, which only makes it about one thing
and one thing only, not about how you became citizens how you
got your God given right. It's much more about look at the
white man fucking with you still.
That's why they won't let us know about. That's why I made a
purpose to let know about the heroes of the Vietnam War. And
we're going to talk more about the heroes of the World War Two
black heroes, they don't want to let you know about black men
that got busy with a gun. It's that unless they're doing
something to kill another black man, right? That's the only one
that's the only people that are comfortable with having guns.
You know why? Because black men that kill Black other men with
guns are not but agents of white supremacy. You want to call
people that are productive agents of white supremacy or
white supremacist or whatever, black white supremacy and black
skin? No, it's the rappers it's the ones that go out here and
will willingly kill another black man. Now what I want to do
is counterbalance that. You know, we can have our own
police. We can have our own communities. We don't need to
call the cops. You know what, what's going on? We'll come over
there and inspect. Hey, what's going on over here? Oh, yeah.
Okay. All right, just making sure you're saying keep it
moving. And this is not a foreign idea because there was a
show called Rock with Charles as done. It was a whole push on
television about black people doing citizen patrols and, you
know, watching those things now, and then it went to stop
snitching. It wasn't like that was a PUT THAT WAS ON 60
minutes. Stop snitching. That was not a coincidence. That was
the rollout of justice stepped. We did didn't know the
deterioration of your neighborhood. So I digress. But
I just want to let that known that if you never had your foot,
right, but the thing was is people my age, me and my age. We
didn't grow up with Jim Crow when drinking out of water
fountains, though kind of thing. So we kind of think we have our
rights. So you're always no, I want my rights. You know, my
granddad and my dad stood up for this kind of stuff. You know, he
went through this bullcrap. I want them all I want I'm not
gonna sell it for anything. Right.
And I don't want that is the original you guys first? Because
my rights are getting taken away too.
Right? I don't want discounted rights. I don't I read it Have I
really have something else than discounted? Right?
And by the way, if your rights are not right, then my rights
aren't right. That's
why we need start written. That's how I see. Now you see
why I said Lady Justice had a serious upskirt because now
people are realizing that like, Oh, now you see. Like when we
used to go on court like Man, if this system was rigged against
this guy, nah, the system's fine. Yeah. This this justice
now. Now you're seeing like they tried to get out.
It's interesting. You don't what you don't really hear a lot of
even on Fox News was that justice has been served. No,
that's not they're not saying that.
They're saying something totally counter to that. The justice
system is completely corrupt. And I'm like a, whatever it
takes for it to be identified. So be it you know, and that's
why I don't get upset about names and outcome of this trial.
Some people want you to virtue signaling be all irate over it.
No, I'm not doing that. Because you know what, at the end of the
day, my right to defend myself is still there. We have
presidents for what self defense is great works for me. But I
want to get to these last few clips. Just the primarily black
man you're reaching with the gun control thing? Well, oh,
yeah, no, no, no, no. I know that. It's about that time we're
nearing the end of the show. I'm pretty sure that's not what
you're supposed to be thinking. Alright, so
now this is an MSNBC clip. And I keep harping on MSNBC because
there have been the loudest voice in this whole situation.
Yep. This is a gun rights supporters celebrate Rittenhouse
verdict one, rather you
go first you're reactive to Madison concern. A member of
Congress what he said in the clip we just showed,
I think it's frightening when I heard the jury's decision, and
then the reaction to it. I think what people are forgetting if
you start with the wrong premise, you come to the wrong
conclusion. The reason cow Rittenhouse went to Kenosha was
because there was protests against a young black man shot
in the back seven times by police. And there was reaction
to it. Some violence, some and most peace, right mostly. That's
why he came up with an AR 15. He came to confront protesters. He
came saying he wanted to protect property. That was not his he
was not a member of that community. That's why he came.
So what this verdict does is make people like me that lead
protests that lead marches, very concerned now are people now
going to come into our protest and killed people or hurt people
and claim self defense. And it has now been anointed by people
like cod THON and others that are saying he ought to be a
congressional intern. He's a hero, when he in fact
aggressively came after a situation that he was opposed
to, which was the protest around the shooting by police of Jacob
Blake Jr.
I displayed here the whole narrative laid out in one
concise, concise, a beat when Maggie insists that he went down
to seven shots the he went into you know, kind of like he was
the aggressor in the situation. Protecting your property does
not make you aggressive protecting other people's
property does not make you an aggressor. Um, we need to have
the same mentality we need to know what our rights are
exercises. This
is such an incredible setup by The certainly by or executed by
the Democratic Party, you know, let's forget about who's who's
really running the whole thing but Right. Wow, I did. I didn't
see this. I didn't see it zoomed out that far. And they had this
all planned and and now it's not working. None of it's working.
So they got to blame Joe. They got to they got to get rid of
him Kamala is no good mayor Pete's got a poppin Oh, my God.
The reason why it's not working is when I look at my account.
And my money is less than two what it was, yeah, I can't get
with that. And then you want to take the one thing that protects
for certain that protects myself away, away from me, that doesn't
work for me. So now you're just pushing, you know, pushing and
pushing the wrong way. So you saw our Reverend Al set it up.
So this next guy is gonna come home and slamming on through
with what the solution is from our being scared at protests.
Okay. Attorney said when he says follow the law, this is where
probably the one time I might agree with Congressman Jordan.
When you read the Wisconsin law, it makes it really difficult to
not find or difficult to find Rittenhouse guilty isn't the
problem. The laws, the way they're written that make that
make us vulnerable I when I say us, the American people, but
certainly black people.
Okay. And here's the problem. When we start talking about the
law as it relates to the Rittenhouse case, it's not
simply the law on the books, it's the law that was provided
to the jury for them to use and deliberation, right, the law
that they had to use during deliberation was actually more
forgiving than you would think with regard to reaching the
right results in this case. But here's the problem. And it's a
structural problem based on the way the case was tried. The
prosecutors assume they could prove that Rittenhouse conduct
was reckless. And they assume that this law of self defense
was never going to come up, because he's breaking curfew.
And he's wrongfully carrying the assault rifle. And if those two
things are true, he doesn't get the instruction on self defense.
So you don't have to worry about it. Yet people who don't
understand the law of self defense or xe how it should have
been applied in this scenario hadn't been properly applied, I
think you could lead to a different result. And go ahead,
right.
But I also think that we need to have federal law. We are upon
two or three months from now, the 10th anniversary of Trayvon
Martin, we still have not legislated on a federal level
about standing your ground, which is now in many more
states.
Wow.
And NASA problem, people ineffective Wow, we don't have
anything that's you know, saying concrete or stand your ground.
It's been two black men killed in Florida behind stand your
ground. And we haven't fixed this problem which I don't
really have an issue with stand the ground as long as you judge
it the same way for all parties. Of course, my thing he was
saying, Stay your ground because you just never know when you had
to rip up and do something. So that's
why that's why and I think we talked about it. But anyone who
owns a firearm needs to get firearm insurance, which usually
includes attorney and everything. Because it doesn't
matter what happens. There's going to be a lawsuit because
that's we're, like we said in the beginning. Hey, man, I was
breaking into your house you shot me I'm gonna sue you.
But that's the that's the tax. See, that's the tax on owning
guns. And I don't I don't agree. I agree with that sound advice?
Okay, the premise behind it, I think is just another tack. So
now is well
no, no, the solution is to just shoot the lawyers. That's the
solution. I'm just kidding. Lawyers. I'm just kidding. Now
the lawyers are actually gonna get us out of this. You watch.
There's enough
of this thing is this is you want to add another insurance,
which is another tax, which is a luxury for some people. Yeah,
I'm with you. It's racing that makes it makes the noise is the
kick. Now what's that? Because it hits across all colored lines
to say well, because that's what they want to wear. You got to
have certain insurance to own a gun, you know, they won't be a
straight out banding of guns. It would just be so, so expensive
to own one. Of course I can no you just like in New York, you
can own a gun. I mean, if you know the right people, you can
get the right paperwork sign. So we see that.
Yeah, what I was talking about more is like, NRA these types of
groups exist specifically for gun owners and you know, it
won't break it. I agree. It's a tax. I totally agree. I'm just
saying to people, please don't forget that step. That's just
the reality of where we're getting the being real here.
That's the reality of where we live right now.
Yes, it's sound practical advice, and I totally agree. But
what I'm saying is the premise behind Did you have to have so
much protection for your protection? That was it it would
just wear people down to the point where like, you know what,
it's not even worth it. Not even worth owning a gun you know that
kind of thing. GBG
STL blacks gun shoot the lawyers, I'm telling you a
solution and you need a Bitcoin
so they brought river outfall for this segment, and I'm gonna
show you how disgusting This is. And this is the last clip. He
didn't do good enough job a good enough job selling it. So they
actually called him back and made him do it.
Again, do over nice.
I have a few more words.
The same day, the same show. So he was already on his way out.
He was in the green room and
witness same show, but you were saying they called him back like
you need to double down on that's why he said I have more
to say on it. That's what he's saying. Yeah.
Oh, I know exactly how that went. But to get your ass back
in there.
I have a few more words on the Rittenhouse trout that ended and
the RV case is in its final stages. In just a few months,
we're going to be facing the 10 year anniversary of the killing
of Trayvon Martin. The Stand Your Ground laws became a
national anchor case, we never really dealt with it. We never
really legislated on it on a federal level. And now we need
to as a movement as a country make the Congress and the Senate
deal with new gun laws. We just had ministers do a big rally and
privilege in Brunswick, Georgia around the case of a mod up. Now
I'm going back to join the family there this weekend, I
would be concerned of having a privilege which somebody come
they're saying coming to defend something. And if they can get
in an altercation with somebody on the side of verbal
altercation, you could take out a gun, an AR 15 And that can
shoot somebody under real threat. We are in my opinion, we
are mandated to try to make law man did not do that would stand
your ground. We must make very clear laws to protect all.
Whoo, there it is everybody.
I know we're both right. It's the sight out. And the purpose
for the SIOP is to take our guns away from
very unique what you've done. You know, my my actual skill is
deconstructing news almost as it happens the next day, you know,
or within within days. The gun legislation was obvious at the
surface with things like across state lines, the way you did
this today, but also weaving in the two tiered justice system of
money, no money, outstanding five star review on real on
Yelp. And you graduate, you're now detective of Law and Order
Special
had to lean on my, my a lot of Law Order degree from SVU. But
it carried me through the show. And the thing was, I don't want
people to be triggered. I don't want people to be you know,
saying doom and gloom and out. If you if you have guns, and you
have access to make money, then you can enjoy America for what
it's meant to be. And that's the real control mechanisms of how
they really try to destabilize us. And like I said, we they
start with us. I have to stress that point to people. They
always start with us. It's always gonna roll downhill so we
have to point these things out and I'm in for the 40% and pray
for the 30% don't get it.
Mo Thank you very much for this outstanding episode everybody.
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it's definitely going to be some great stuff there. But as I
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