Hey Moe Factz with Adam curry for September 16 2019, episode
number seven to American dudes talking it up. Moe how are you?
I'm doing good how you know, Adam,
I'm doing real good. You know, it's Monday once again, that
means Moe Factz around these parts of Austin.
Yes. Um, and as you know, the song goes more money, more
problems.
That's right. Yes, although I you know, being an old guy is
like, I just keep hearing Diana Ross. I don't hear anything
else. You know. I saw her in the round when I was 15.
That's, that's pretty amazing. And that's what this show is all
about. It's perspective. You can hear the same thing and see it
two different ways. Because when I hear that I hear that
Notorious BIG more money, more problems digs. So. So speaking
of which, more money, more problems we've spoken, the last
show about families and people not in not wanting to have
families that have difficulty that haven't families in these
times. Right. So as that show ended, beginning of the prop,
maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, I got an interesting email from a
friend. And the title of the article was this budget shows
how $350,000 salary, I'm barely qualifies as middle class. Yes.
I actually saw that a few days ago. And I thought to myself, No
wonder I'm struggling. But this is if if you want to live in a
city or just in general,
I think in there, it was like cities such as New York City,
San Francisco, you know, the major hubs. But I think this
speaks to last show while families. This article spoke
about a family of four, two working parents making, you
know, combined salary of $350,000, right? They at the
end, if you lived up to it, this goes to the thing that we talked
about, you know, having the house and the cars and yeah,
picket fence and the trips to Disneyland.
Yes. It's what we all want. Right? If you
live that today, at the end of the month, I believe you will
have $121 cash flow.
Oh, man, my vape budget is more than that.
You pay for everything. So
now who? Who did this? Who put this study together? Who was the
genius?
This was published on CNBC and num numbers according to the US
Census Bureau. And this was all messy the website was
well this is a you sent me a link from MSN but I think the
maybe the British
give me yeah, yes. So it was written by Sean Lang Lang los
Louis Lang. Lang, law, something like that. Yeah, language might
be French here. So as we see more money, more problems, and
that kind of explains, puts the button on what we talked about
last show. So but as we see moving forward, and today's
show, we're gonna talk about how money can more money can cause
more problems. So how's that great. Twitter feed a lot going
for it? I want to test it out.
To be very honest, I was in we were away this weekend. We were
in Las Vegas. Went to see Bruno Mars. So I really haven't been
looking too much at the great Twitter, but I'm keeping up Moe
You know me I'm keeping up.
Okay, so for those out there who don't have the you know, the
privilege of having a great, great Black Twitter line. Oh,
timeline, there was a beef. Black Lives Matter beef to be
more specific. But sweet one Shaun King and one DeRay
Mckesson?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Very long medium article that was
written about this.
Yes, there was a long medium, medium article written by DeRay
Mckesson. And just as of this morning, there was a quote
unquote, I hate this word, clap back. Wash our king with an even
longer, medium article, and we're gonna get into that but
let's start off with the background or
greetings and salutations. I'm Christopher Platt, reporting for
your Black World News with an article from news one, Shaun
King and D Ray McKesson once worked closely together, but had
an epic falling out that played out on Twitter years ago. Like
most social media feuds, it was hard to tell who was right or
wrong, but people still took sides Since then, they've really
mentioned each other until now, McKesson wrote a scathing and
long piece on King in a piece for medium. McKesson goes on and
on about how he trusted King believed in his work, but then
noticed dismissiveness and bad communication. He then implies
King stole money from Justice together where McKesson was a
board member at one point and said to date, it's not clear
that Shawn filed the appropriate taxes for justice together, as
there's no 990 Form available for public review from the IRS
website. He also slammed Shawn kings fundraising report,
claiming it was not independent. McKesson also alleged that king
did not raise millions and that he took credit for other
people's work. He takes credit for 100% of all funds raised for
any fundraiser, whose link he has ever posted online in an
email blast or retweeted. McKesson also referenced the
Clarissa Brooks incident, where King demanded an apology after
she reportedly said that he stole or spent money that was
raised for sin, Toya Brown, which King claimed he never
raised money for. McKesson cites a bunch of failed projects from
King. Basically, McKesson believes King is a fraud.
You know, you could put this on shortwave radio and it would
sound really cool. News.
So this is our this was a from the YouTube news, news one. And
if you're asking who news one is that is sponsored by Radio One,
which is founded by Miss Cathy Hughes. And that's going to be
important later. But let's get in. So just a little background.
These two came up through the Black Lives Matter Ferguson
event with the shooting of Michael Brown and that's how
they became into public light. So from there D Ray has felt
like he's been pushed to the side while Shaun King has no
become like a you know a shooting star he I mean, he's
he's like the the creme de la creme of woke ism was he
was he one of the people who met with Hillary Clinton during the
2016 election. They had that kind of backstage meeting, if
you recall,
which which one DeRay Mckesson or Shaun King. I'm not sure I
know D Ray was there but I'm not sure. All right. And for people
for people to know, Sean, I mean, D Ray was the bigger star
starting out the blue vest. He know he was a really huge star.
But let's go on to the second clip.
Kings been defending his name for weeks after Rihanna
announced she would honor the Morehouse man at an upcoming
award ceremony. Social media went ham and demanded that she
reconsider. In response, King released a 72 page report of
quote, Every single penny I've ever raised in quote, since
Black Lives Matter began. The documents were compiled and
authored in part by people like Tamika Mallory, co chair of the
Women's March and co founder of Justice League NYC, and civil
rights attorney Lee Merritt. The report focused on fundraisers
that King promote it through his social media accounts. And
provided what King said was a full accounting of his financial
relationship with real justice Pac and action pack, along with
five years of his tax returns.
Now hold on a second. You know, for every type of entity, if
it's a PAC, if it's a nonprofit, there's forms you got to fill
out for taxes that I think have to be published publicly unless
there's some other entity that was in play here.
That is correct. And like you said, he led he put out a 72
page report stating how the how the money was spent, and even
heard him brought up the Justice pack the real justice pack, so I
did a little homework. Whenever I hear pack I hear money I start
following the paper trail. So the real justice pack is funded
by carry tuna and justice. Mas moszkowicz. No. Mo SPO. Mas VA
Mackiewicz. Yes. Are you familiar with him?
No, I'm in fact this is this is the most names I've ever heard
in this show who I have no clue about.
So Dustin, Moscow, Moscow. I can't say it, Moscow for which
is one of the founders of Facebook. almost $2 million into
this real justice pack. So shocking is backed by Facebook
money to the tune of 2 million dollars and I found it funny
that the money is registered under carry tuna and not under
there. They have a nonprofit that they could have put the
money under, but it was like an individual donor type thing. So
I thought that was funny how they kind of like Tron, in my
honest opinion amassed the money. You know, when you see
Carrie tuna, that doesn't ring a bell, but when I start digging
who she was, I found out who she married to. And then the
connection with Facebook. So
okay. It is Dustin, Dustin Moskovitz. Indeed, my brothers.
Yeah, that's it. That's the guy. Okay, got it.
So, that just struck me as weird. I mean, you guys have a
nonprofit they took the PAC with, with Bill Gates and Warren
Buffett to spend all their money donate all their money in their
lifetime.
Yeah, this is the giving pledge that you will give away. At
least I think it's half of your fortune in your lifetime, but
the idea is to spend all of it.
Right. But as you hear in this piece from the news, Warren,
which is a product of Radio One, they're very friendly and
protective of Shaun King. They really didn't get into the
Article of the accusation DeRay Mckesson made, it was more to
the defense of Shaun King and that's going to be very
important to remember this valve that away. Why? We'll see later
on and you know, in my presentation, but let's go to
clip three.
In addition, King said the authors of the fundraising
report had unlimited access to his and his family's checking
accounts, savings accounts, credit cards, retirement
accounts and money management software. I've helped raise over
34 point 5 million for families, charities, causes and campaigns
King tweeted Tuesday morning, a seven person expert review board
inspected every penny, including the past five years of my tax
returns. There's 72 page report. In addition, the families of Nia
Wilson Philando Castile, Terrence Crutcher and multiple
other people killed in recent years vouched for King, the
family of both them John, the man who was killed by Dallas
police officer Amber Geiger a year ago this Friday had nothing
but glowing words for King. We have had the pleasure of
interacting with Shaun king in the months following Bolton's
murder, John's family wrote, Sean has become more than
another voice for our family. He's become our friend. He's
advocated for the John family spoke up for us, dried our tears
and held our hands. We're grateful for his support, as are
many other families who have met him.
Well, what this tells me is don't mess with this guy because
the dead are speaking on his behalf.
Also, um, if you notice, it's one of those things where Al
Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, you call Shaun king, he gets the
money. And we're gonna see, I think later in on the
presentation, we're gonna say he raised over like, maybe $30
million. Wow, on behalf of families and organizations. But
before we move forward, you know, we always, as I always
like to do we have to go backwards before we can go
forward. So, Adam, I'm going to test your memory a little bit.
Why? Why was what was the purpose of Black Lives Matter?
Who was it? Who was it set aside to protect your opinion? In my
opinion, black lives matter was set up particularly to bring
attention to police brutality against black people.
Specifically, black males, correct? Because that's who the
majority of the victims were.
Yes, yeah. I would not have specified it as such. But yeah,
yes, sure.
And this has been the argument just I mean, from my
perspective, I didn't want to, you know, put words into your
mouth. But the perspective were when I first saw Black Lives
Matter trending on, on social media, it was kind of like they
were using the plight of the black male being gunned down by
police with your hands up. Um, you know, you know, to bring
attention to that. But let's listen to I found a great
interview with the three three creators of Black Lives Matters.
Alicia got on Garza. Patrisse Cullors. And oppo tell me,
yep, and the name Patrice. I recognize, recognize, I think
from a connection to Soros or something,
right. You always get in the head there. I'm
sorry. I'm sorry. I knew something's becoming
this is becoming a common thing with you? Yeah, um, we had a
great sit down with TED talks, which is a you know, platform to
get all that the oh wait woke agenda out there. And let's
listen to the reason why they started Black Lives Matter.
Why is Black Lives Matter important for the US right now.
And in the world.
Black Lives Matter is our call to action. It is a tool to
reimagine a world where black people are free to exist, free
to live. It is a tool for our allies to show up differently
for us.
Whoa, that's not but I understood the movement to be.
And I thank God for him because I didn't know I wasn't free to
live resists. But God bless him. Feel free, feel free. Right. So
let's get into clip. Two of Miss Patrice Cole years,
Black Lives Matter offers answers to the why offers a new
vision for young black girls around the world that we deserve
to be fought for. That we deserve to call on local
governments to show up for us.
Wow, this is not at all what the message was.
I thought it was hands up don't shoot black, young black men,
black men of color are being shot down in the street light
animals. But obviously not. And you know what, I cannot receive
this coming. I am being ultra facetious. But
hold on, let me ask let me ask your question. Was now this that
you said the things from a TED talk was that at the founding,
or was it later I mean, was that the original concept and I just
want to get the timeline maybe that
this is this is afterwards, this is a couple of years after you
know, they got off the ground. Because as you've heard, Black
Lives Matter started out as a hash tag and the name became a
organization. And then you know, became a vehicle. For what
always these liberal super woke, I hate using that word
repeatedly. But these movements happen, it's like black people
causes is the stepping stone to get into bigger fundraising and
taking bigger issues on. So also, if you really want to get
in, you know, you start with the black people or you start with
the black causes. And then you're gonna hear Miss Opal,
tell me pivot to other causes.
We need this because the global reality is the black people are
subject to all sorts of disparities. And most of our
most challenging issues of our day, I think about issues like
climate change, and how six of the 10 worst impacted nations by
climate change are actually on the continent of Africa.
Whoa, this is great. I wish I'd had this for no agenda. This is
fantastic. Good. Okay. Climate change is killing black men in
the neighborhoods.
Yes, obviously, climate only affects us. Sports specifically,
but as you see is what they call mission creep. Yeah, it's a form
of mission creep. You know, they get their foot in the door,
people like, oh, that Black Lives Matter thing is pretty
cool. They got there. Let's talk all these other things. And with
it, you know, and then it becomes so diluted that it
doesn't even address. The original concern was, which is
the actual concern, black men being shot in the streets? Let's
not let's not poopoo that. But if the people that are receiving
the funding and attention, go away from drawing attention to
that problem. That's something you expect anybody else to do
exactly. And we see this over and over and over again. And
that's why people become so jaded to these movements,
because we know how it's going to end up. I mean, as we say, on
this show, hopefully, the past only repeats itself. This is
just a new iteration of something that that we've seen
before. Well, let's listen to Miss automake speak some more.
We also see disasters like Hurricane Matthew, which
recently wreaked havoc in Many different nations, because the
most damage to Haiti. Haiti is the poorest country in this
hemisphere, and its inhabitants are black people. And what we're
seeing in Haiti is that they were actually facing a number of
challenges that even preceded this hurricane. They were
reeling from the earthquake, they were reeling from cholera
that was brought in by UN peacekeepers, and still hasn't
been eradicated. This is unconscionable. And this would
not happen if this nation didn't have a population that was
black. And we have to be real about that.
Yes, because earthquakes only target black people.
And hurricanes
and hurricanes and Hades. This is Black Lives Matter. Haitian
Black Lives Matter. This is great.
So let me ask you this. A couple of questions. And these are no
agenda questions. One who kind of took charge after that
earthquake happened in Haiti?
Well, that would be the Clintons.
Why no mention of the Clintons. And how they misappropriated
billions of dollars. Yes. Ah, hey, they should be a top notch,
top notch nation with the amount of money that was infused from
the from the earthquake. Oh,
well, yeah. If the money was infused, I mean, what wound up
happening is the Red Cross built about six homes and the Clintons
built a hotel and they got the Bill and Hillary suite. Now it
was and this is almost like mainstream acknowledgement of
how poorly handled that was. And not to mention what's the guy?
Sweet Ron Martelli. There was a whole bunch of other who was the
one didn't the Black Eyed Peas guy jump in there for a hot
minute?
Yeah, and was it um, was it him or were you talking about watch
you got what club John I'm sorry. Wyclef. Yeah. Like okay.
Yeah. Rodman and let's not forget about Mr. Rotom. Hillary
Clinton's brother.
Uh, yes, he got when he got the the exclusive mining licenses to
mine for gold.
Right. So but it was the natural disaster. That was the problem.
Yes. Because not not, no earthquakes and hurricanes hate
black people. And they target I mean, they,
they racially profiled racist island over there. That one
looks nice. Let's let's go blow that one down. Not the
government, you know, and I put the sole responsibility on the
government of those nations, because they're allowed to
misuse the funds that are given to assist their people. But this
goes to show you the problem. They don't want to step on any
toes of the Maggard downers and the donor, donor class because
this is where they get their daily bread from
fundraising. 101 right there in the book,
right? Yeah, you don't step no step on the toes of the donors.
But moving forward. Miss Alicia, Garza. Let's hear her take on
black lives matter
when you deal with what's happening in black communities.
It creates an effervescence, right? So a bubble up rather
than a trickle down. Let me give an example. When we talk about
the wage gap, we often say women make 78 cents to every dollar
that a man makes y'all have heard that before. But those are
the statistics for white women and white men. The reality is
that black women make something like 64 cents to every 78 cents
that white women make. When we talk about Latinas it goes down
to about 58 cents. If we were to talk about Indigenous women, if
we were to talk about trans women, it would even go farther
down. So again, if you deal with those who are the most impacted,
everybody has an opportunity to benefit from that.
Okay, well, this you know, I have a trouble problem with
these statistics in general. I don't know if that's where you
want to go, but
I know we're not going to go down that. I agree. I agree with
your honor. I know you're going to come from and yeah, those
numbers are our ra Missmiss Twister the calculations. The
point I want to make is out of all three founders out of all
the clips that we heard. We never heard the Black Male No,
no, no man No. No brought up once. And I didn't cherry pick
this. I didn't cherry pick this TED Talks video. This is
literally the first Question and their responses?
Well, that shows that we've been hoodwinked.
Yes, we have and we were told that we were hoodwinked by
people on the ground. in Ferguson, there is a gentleman
named Darren seals. He was one of the local activists, and he
was tied to the streets. in Ferguson, well respected. He
know he started out in the streets, but then he, you know,
he, he, he went away from that, to you know, kind of being a
positive force in the streets. But let's let's do Mr. Darren
seals speak about black lives matter
what it is man? Did hashtag Black Lives Matter? That bore is
bullshit, man. Black Lives Matter. No one's doing it.
People don't even know that black lives matter. They want
this to send these people to do the right. Black Lives Matter.
They sit him down. That was awesome. Right, so now his name
is dB. D re d r ay. D re he's a homo. Homo. Homo go to the right
now. Follow. Go look at him. But 50,000 followers before the
credit court, he's from Baltimore. There's a credit.
He's from Baltimore. He'd been highly focused. The focus that
person got here by seeing it from folks are right handed the
folks that thing and quiet down. He went back to Baltimore, the
Baltimore boys read them about it. There was
a lot going on in this clip. No. Yes, it is.
And no, and I would say in a way it feels like we're getting a
look inside the mind of, dare I say an average black American
male who are not brought up ahead. Yeah.
I'm glad you brought that point. And he received pushback for
using, quote unquote, unacceptable language when he
talking about the LGBT community. They labeled him as a
homophobic, he addressed that later on in the clip, but I
didn't want to make the clip too long. Not later on this clip,
but other clips. He, he addressed that, as they painted
him as they paint anybody that disagrees with them as being
homophobic and not to be heard. But the point he was trying to
make is, these people came from other places. And created a
situation and made the situation worse than it was the agitated.
What was going on in Ferguson, while reaping the benefits, and
actually wasn't even boots on the ground. They weren't
standing on the front lines. No, they were on Twitter. They were
you know, securing the funds that never made it to the people
like himself that were were on the ground. And one thing you
brought up is inside the mind of a black man. I'm gonna say this
black people, and I've said this before Black people are some of
the most socially conservative groups there is. So when you try
to push these new ideas and ideologies on us that go counter
to what we believe you get pushed back now he is not the
most articulate person.
Well, let me let me jump in. I mean, just from my perspective,
the general feeling I get my you know, I don't like to
generalize, but we're doing it is that black men have an
aversion against gay men and certainly transgendered black
men.
Okay, let's take let's take,
ah, that's that's just an observation. It's generalizing,
you know, and tell me where I'm at.
I'm gonna speak from personal. Ah, I have nothing against LGBT.
The problem I have is the over representation in the media of
black men being gay. Got it? Where 30% of the population is
black. Half of that makes this What 6.5% of the population?
Correct? Yep, boom. When you turn on the television.
There's Don Lemon.
Right. The number of black men represented in the media
represented in movies represented and just overall was
portrayed on you know, the television screens, movie
screens, even memes, when you look at means black men are
represented as overall a large portion or a large portion of
them are represented as a homosexual. Also, just and I
don't I didn't want to go here, but it's going to be very
important to this. This conversation we're having. There
was recently a guy named Malik Yoba. I don't know if you
familiar with him or not. But he was on a popular television
show. New York undercover. It was a nightie night. He's on
Fox. He's come out and he's been hugely Pro. Trans. He's trying
to say that. If you date trans women, I don't know how it goes
when I think the women men that are women or trans women, I
believe. Yeah, I don't have my Yes, right. There pushing now
that you shouldn't if you don't want to date a trans woman,
you're transphobic and homophobic.
Yeah, well, and that's colorless. I mean, that's across
the board. If you say I'd never drink data trans woman, you're
transphobic right off. That's the you know, this is this is
the Dave Chappelle trap. This
is the Dave Chappelle trap. And it's it's amazing how these two
things were going on at the same time in the news. Yeah, Dave
Chappelle is comedy special. And then you had Malik Yoba coming
out being an advocate for this. And of course, they went to the
Breakfast Club, and I don't want to go down that rabbit hole, but
I just want to go to show you in the mind of average black males
like you're either portraying us as hyper sexual, violent, or
hyper feminine. Masculine, there's no you know, normalcy.
We don't get any normalcy, how we're represented in the media
and I think that's what you're hearing now from Mr. Darren
seals, but just to get back on track. Let's hear on Darren
speaks Darren seals speak out about Black Lives Matter.
So when I tweet and they play in Canada with the white folks you
know, they've racist they hide behind fake pages on Twitter
talking shit going back and forth we tweet retweet it's like
a big ass show. You know so you got a lot of people sending them
money turning them into stars Oprah tweet net in Hong Kong her
fucking the face of Ferguson nobody know the fuck she is in
the face of shit. When even out there which came out this year
said don't tweet like what you face@twitter.com Anyways man,
we're happy we don't understand Black Lives Matter. This
organization I think it's just a hash tag and people just saying
hey, Ty white folks are part of it. They put it in the media
some behind it believe it
won't cry so he saw what was going on. He saw the money
coming in was it was it reaching you know you see these GoFundMe
is go up. You see these people that are receiving all this
media attention on social media but you're not seeing them on
the front lines question yes. How?
So the Black Lives money funding money that comes in? What do the
boots on what did they expect that they would be giving them
money to survive while protesting materials signs? I
mean, what what would the money what was the money necessary
for?
Okay, about 1 billion people out of jail? Wow. Yes, God, okay,
got it, too. I mean, it's kind of like when when you're now you
gotta look at it like you're at war and war analogy, but you got
to have resources to the troops.
The bail right at the top I get it. A lot of a lot of money
raised for protesters is for for bail, bail funds.
Okay, let me let me draw this analogy to you. So say you
always bringing up the homeless issue in Austin, right. I'm from
Northern Virginia DMV, DC area. Ally a man that's terrible. What
was going on in Austin? I come out there I set up shop, saying
I'll Austin Austin. But then I secure funds and take them back
to DNV. GL, ya know, I live in Austin. That would be seen as
like, disingenuous. Yeah, um, but he made a good he made a
point there isn't it's not a good point. But what black
people have noticed, and I'm just speaking in generalities,
generalities that whenever you see these groups show up Um, and
you see they're headed by or funded, you know, by certain,
you know, same demographics. I'm being white liberals in this
case. You know, it really irks you, you know, especially when
you're in when we saw how he understood how it was going to
end up. What we saw on the previous clips that how they
were speaking about what Black Black Lives Matter had evolved
to, not what they were raising money off of. But Mr. Darren
seals, um, he was causing too many problems.
Don't upset the applecart.
Right. When you come out there and you start adding, he has
started gaining gaining attention, albeit from smaller
platforms. That's why I had to get the I read the really big to
get these clips because, um, they were really, for lack of a
better word blackballing him and the media. On to a certain event
happen.
Darren seals was known locally as a rapper nationally for his
activism during the Ferguson protests, seals was found shot
inside a burning car in Riverview on Diamond drive.
Police initially thought they were responding to a car on
fire. But once they put out the flames, they discovered seals
body inside with a gunshot wound
the community cares about
Benjamin Graham does with the St. Louis County Police
Department. He's hoping seal status will encourage people to
come forward with information.
I do know that there is a lot of sentiment in the community that
they want justice, they want the truth and we hope to give that
to them. We can't do it alone. So we're hoping that friends,
family members, acquaintances, or just any members of the
community can come forward and help us out with this with any
information they may have.
Yeah, you know, I vaguely remember this. And I remember it
and we might even talked about it on no agenda. We were like,
well, if you're in the car and the cars burning, and you got a
bullet holding it, you got to know that's not suicide.
Not suicide and not some random beef. The guy was beloved in his
neighborhood, rather people that actually live there. It reminds
me of the and God His name just slipped my mind just that quick.
The guy who was shot in DC, with the Democratic um, he was a
Democratic Party worker. Oh is sad?
I think it was Shawn, it was the name Shawn.
It wasn't Shawn. It was.
This is horrible that we don't don't know this.
Okay, consult the book and knowledge.
Seth Rich, I knew I was gonna get this right now.
Just the fact that we forget. shows even more trouble.
That's That's tragic, isn't it?
Because we remember him. I mean, we all remember him. But as I
mean, you go to show you that people can be erased. And this
is the case I think is good with Darren seals. He was talking too
much for certain people good. And we know as looking back now,
a lot of big money was being pumped into Black Lives Matter.
Now. Was there? Was there any kind of investigation? Was there
any follow up of this? This murder?
I searched all over the web. That was the only clip I could
find. And there was other ones around that time just reporting
the death but no follow up. And usually when there's no follow,
I'll say it like this. If you okay is to is two ways you can
look at it. One, the police killed him or people who pro
police killed him because he was an activist. And then you use
him as a martyr. You know, to gain attention, right? I mean,
know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course, it right. But the fat
and the same thing with Seth Rich, if he was killed, because
he had information about the Russians, quote, unquote,
Russians. Yeah, that would, or you could use gun violence,
which would have been great for the Democratic Party, you know,
look another, you know, saying one of our own take it down my
gun violence, you know, we need to bring attention to gun
control,
and none of that and to be specific, Seth Rich. The belief
is that he was the one that pulled the emails from the
Democratic National Committee server and gave those to
WikiLeaks.
That's true, but what I'm saying is it You say it's a random
street crop, which is the official story. Yeah. Right. Why
didn't the Democrats use this as a, one of our own taken by gun
violence?
Well, you know, it was, it was a 22 caliber. It's not a scary ar
15. But I understand what you're saying.
Right? And it's the same thing. If you look at it through the
same lens here, if it was a anti Black Lives Matter, pro cop,
murderer, right? We need to use this guy as a martyr. Yes. But
when it goes silent,
then you know something's up. Okay. All right, I totally get
it. So that's,
that's how I saw that. But we got to understand, okay, if
we're gonna go with he was silence. Why would we be
silence? And my theory is the money that was being pumped into
Black Lives Matter and who was doing it. So
who's funding Black Lives Matter? One of the big donors
seems to be George Soros or old Powell gives big money to
affiliates of Black Lives Matter groups that do direct business
with them, also giving money directly to the group,
entertainers, Jay Z and Beyonce. And they are joining us now from
Washington, Kelly riddle, an investigative reporter for The
Washington Times. Is this just a fringe group? Or should we take
them seriously?
Well, I mean, you gotta look at Black Lives Matter is really an
umbrella slogan kind of group that encompasses a lot of social
justice workers, and a lot of social justice organizations.
And it's it was a group that was started by three women that work
at Soros backed organizations that are into community
organizing, into kind of riling up activists.
And yes, okay, it's all coming back now. Yep. And I remember I
don't know which one of the women had, I think, a $2 million
nonprofit that definitely was funded by Open Society
Institute, ie George Soros. I don't know about all of them,
though.
That was Alicia. Garza. Okay. Yeah. And that's the one you
guys covered on the no agenda that she was really receiving
some money from some Chinese organization? Well, I think
we're saying you did some research on that as well. But
let's not say I digress on that point. But if you're going to go
to theory that he was silenced, big money will get you silenced
very quickly. This is a very black lives matter. And that's
why I'm harping on this. And just go, we're going going back,
what's the goal for for why D re McKesson and Shaun King are
having this long standing beef, mm D Ray was in a position of
power. He had the blue vest he was on The Tonight shows. And lo
and behold, Sean Kane came in and replace them. At some point.
Now derailed on the outside looking in, the women of Black
Lives Matter has moved on to bigger and better causes to
fight. And he's left with only Twitter frame. Ah, now that's
not my words. Let me go to nine. Like I said, there's an article
that came out this morning from Shaun King, and there was this
was his reply. Let me find it. So in the beginning of his
article, he mentions how he says I am not our Twitter account.
When I look in the mirror in the morning, I don't see at Shaun
king or a social media personality. I'm a husband to
the brilliant black woman I first met and fell in love with
1996. And that was and him saying that because Yeah. You
picked up on that. Um,
oh, yeah. Oh, yes. @MoeFactz, I hear you.
Right. So, but he goes on to say, let me D Ray has been
basically Ah, okay, here's a quote. D Ray is now mainly
famous for being famous more than he is famous for actually
doing real work that helps real people. And because his fame is
mostly exclusively centered on Twitter. Got it? So he's saying
we branched out we become real entities in the movement and
poor deranged you know, he's a Twitter either Twitter celebrity
right. And that's, that's, that's the fundamental beef
right there. That's the fundamental beef right there.
So, I know you guys are saying and everybody's saying, well,
Mo, you come in with Fox News facts about soy, about soy rose
and Black Lives Matter. No, I don't that
guy actually looked it up. I remember looking at the form 990
of Garza is a nonprofit and there it was Open Society
Institute. That's not Fox News. That's, you know, IRS filings?
Well, as I always like to do, I like to bring balance, and we're
gonna list them Mr. De Patman, who was super progressive, he's
a Bernie bro. Ah, and he's gonna also make the claim that Black
Lives Matter is Soros funded?
And I have a very, very specific idea that we need to explore
seriously, which is that the anti Bernie Sanders tinge of the
Black Lives Matter movement recently couldn't be George
Soros funded astroturf, and I will speak as specifically as
possible, Louis. And then I will allow you Lewis to tell me what
you think about this. It's widely on record, that George
Soros, the liberal billionaire has poured a ton of money into
two movements that were instrumental in creating Black
Lives Matter and the buzzword dating back to January, we knew
that George Soros spent over $30 million bankrolling Ferguson
demonstrators and of course, Ferguson relates to Officer
Darren Wilson, who killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown
and was ultimately not charged. This includes support by George
Soros of groups like color lines, news for action.
Organization for black struggle, which established itself then
established the hands up coalition. Soros also gave money
to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on pushing Black
Lives Matter as a bug buzzword, which has since been
incorporated into speech speeches by political figures,
including Hillary Clinton.
Now, tell me again about this. David Pakman.
Dave Pakman, he's, he has almost 700,000 followers on YouTube.
He's progressive. Is he white guy? White Guy, white guy. All
right. Are you asking me a question? I last show about his
black woke and White woke the same? Yeah. Oh, and this is
where you can see where they can part ways. Because they have
different genders this, and they have different agendas. And if
they don't line up, they will attack each other. So this is a
perfect example of that. Now, I guess other people may say,
well, Moe, that's just two white guys saying that black guy.
Black Lives Matter. Yeah. So that right so um, let's go to
Mr. Lord Lord Jamal with Jamar brand Nubian fame rapper from
the 1990s.
blacker than that, that's.
Yeah. And let's listen to him speak on Black Lives Matter
being somewhat supported by Soros?
I don't know. I just thought that was weird shit. And I'm not
no Black Lives Matter supporter? No, absolutely not. Because it's
not our movement. This is a movement that was given to us
by, you know, George Soros and his fucking boys. Because they
saw how things were going and they didn't want it to go back
to the 60s to where we started having our own organic
movements. That was a big fucking problem for them. So
let's give the people of movement that we can control.
We'll provide them the leaders and all of this type of shit.
And get that's the Black Lives Matter is look at the leaders of
Black Lives Matter or their leaders. Who could these lesbian
women who are trying to incorporate you know? LG,
whatever the fuck the letters are? incorporate those their
concerns into black people's concerns. Go to the website,
look it up.
Well, first, let's help. Lord Jamar, it's LGBTQ Q IAP K. And
what's what strikes me about this clip what he said in the
beginning is he sees this situation, which I agree with,
pretty much as the dinner scene from the movie trick, baby. Mm
hmm. Which is something that's coming back and the current
theme of the show. Now you're
saying it's all about control opposition? Oh, we have to
control. You know, the masses, and what do we do about how we
do that? We put the leadership in front of them. Oh, Whether
it's homegrown, it's two ways that happen that can grow the
leadership from the ground up. Which that's, I think this is
where the conservative conservatives and liberals
deviate in mindset. A lot of your conservative type talking
heads are grown from the ground up. What liberals do is they say
who's hot in the streets right now? And they say, Okay, well,
that allows Mattis the move. Okay, here's what we're going to
do. What's your number? And then they come in, they Co Op, don't
they give him money? You know, they give him that. Like I said,
DeRay Mckesson went from on Twitter. I remember seeing his
god pop up. And I'm like, Who is this? I do this. And really what
I mean by I'll do this. I'll see. I'll watch and I see, who
are they putting up as movers and shakers. And when new people
starting to pop up, I did the same thing with Obama, who is
this guy? I never saw him in a jet. I never saw him in Ebony. I
never, you know. And then you just pop up out of nowhere. Same
thing with DeRay Mckesson? Who is this guy. Never seen you on
black YouTube. I never, you know, because it's a circuit,
you know, even you can go back because a lot of times this
stuff was captured on VHS. And then it was later loaded up on
the YouTube, even pre YouTube. So a lot of these people have
past history got history, right? So when you start digging in,
like, I don't find anything on this guy, D Ray, I don't find
anything on this guy, Shaun King. I don't find anything on
these three ladies from Black Lives Matter. You know, they
didn't come up through the I wanted the big circuit is the
was the black bookstore circuit. That was kind of like the
Chitlin Circuit for black. I'm black speakers and thinkers. You
know, you every town that had a large or semi large black
population had a black bookstore, where they would sell
literature. And like on Saturdays, give me the inside
baseball here, folks. On Saturday, often a person my
pushing a book would come to speak at these of bookstores.
And that's what the VHS to VHS tapes were pop up it. You don't
have that now because they can go straight to the people via a
YouTube or social media. So but that's what I'm saying. You have
a legacy built up of saying, Okay, this guy's is an agent or
he ain't agent you know, because you had to make your you know,
you had to make your name and State Your Claim in those
bookstores. These guys don't have any of that. So when I
started to go do my homework almost as Lord Lord Jamar did.
He's like, man, who the hell are the people? And I want to be
clear. For certain people out there, they might hear this
tinge of black male versus the LGBT community. The problem with
that, and I want to make this very clear is they've co opted
us in so many ways. And when I say us the struggles of black
people, specifically black men, to say, oh, yeah, we're just
like black people. Black people don't have a closet. We don't
have a closet that we ears. And I'm saying so it's very
insulting. Now, on the other hand, you shouldn't be
disrespectful, anybody's life choices. I believe that you
know, to each his own whatever you're saying whatever you're
into, so we had to be respectful. But when somebody
comes in and Co Ops, you know, the civil rights movement, they
co opted that black lives matter, they co opted that not
that we know black lives matter was only for
that. I'll give you another example. The Tea Party, which
has nothing to do with black or white, although they're probably
white people, which was started by Ron Paul, and this was 2008.
And that got co opted massively. And there's still plenty ranch.
Yeah. It's still a Tea Party has nothing to do with the original
libertarian idea behind it. So yeah, the political movements
get co opted all the time.
Yeah, but the problem is, it's the same people co opting our
movements over and over and over again. And I'm not just talking
about the 1990s I'm going all the way back to the Harlem
Renaissance to the 1920s. That was fun, and I may have to do a
later show.
But you know, you just you got me with all you already got me
with the black bookstores, which of course I didn't know about.
Now I need to know about this movement in the 20s but that can
be a step But show but I'm already intrigued.
Just just as a teaser, one that the guy listed as the father of
the Harlem Renaissance was hugely pro LGBT in that time,
and I'll just leave it at that. Okay. So back to large, Mr. M.
Let's listen to him continuing on about black lives matter.
You see them say there's no real
Why is he? There is leaders. This is what I'm telling you.
They're lesbians. They're black lesbians.
Key people are Shaun King. Who's, he's he's a writer for
New York. Daily News.
I'm not talking about the key people go to the fucking website
who runs the shit?
Is their website. Right? And because when I looked at Black
live BLM leader, the key people that there's no leader that
that's listed, but the key people that are listed is Shaun
King, DeRay, McKesson and Johnetta.
Elzie. So as you're saying, their Lord Jamar said when he
said Shaun King, who's that? Right? If he doesn't know you, I
mean, you you have no credentials. I mean, because
he's, his knowledge will be even more extensive than mine. I
mean, by far, and two, who are the movers and shakers and pro
black society? And he was like, Who's that? Oh, but as we see,
fast forward. Just going back to the article that Shaun King
wrote to Deray DeRay Mckesson. So here's why these things
happen in the time that they happen and let me just spine to
you. Okay, Shaun King was being recognized by Rihanna.
Ah, okay. This is the once you get into that, then you're up
and up and into the new circles.
Right so they were having a boss she has a home
see, it says Okay, going back to the article, direct chose to
release a public attack against me hours before the diamond ball
was vindictive, short sighted and destructive. So the diamond
ball was a ball being hailed I'm about the Clara Lionel
Foundation which is Rihanna foundation so he didn't he goes
on to say he says but because the race poor poorly, Tom, and I
don't agree with that, I think it was x you're saying
Excellent. Excellently timed a op ed on the red carpet recall
reporters, we read it guest about me and my presence. And
instead of Rihanna and the foundation, or the diamond ball
being the top, the trending topic in the country, it was de
Ray and his attacks against me all night long. So now we're
seeing Shaun king is in a, you know, an inner circle, not only
you know, on black topics, but with celebrities. You know,
you're getting honored by by Rihanna, and you're getting,
you're saying, get invited to these balls. And not only that,
but he's getting support by the one and only Cardi B
one of the main reason why it's so important for me to be here
is because Rihanna is honoring Shaun king. A lot of people need
to follow Shaun King on Instagram. He protests so much
for all minorities, he protests so much for the whole entire
world. And he's doing this thing right now. It's called um, vote
for Senate. It's very important for people to go for Senate and
everything so we could do the wrong things in order to say
because the Democrats already got
the house that's my black card right there. I practice for
hours.
All right. So Well, hold
on a second. You know, Cardi B is dumb. All right. She just
dumb. I've seen Cardi B. I hear what she says she I mean, she's
an entertainer. She's funny to watch. He's got the hook. She's
got all that. Yeah, she's very entertaining to watch, but I
don't think she's smart.
Wait a minute. I'm curry. You wait a minute, sir. Oh, here we
go. According to Mr. de reyes articlemy Mr. Shah kings are
cool. He says, quote, furthermore, a sexist dhimmis
these massive assumption is being made about both Rihanna
and Cardi B, you can their public and private support of
me. The assumption is that d Ray knows better than they do. And
so sodas Adam curry.
Yeah, well, I stand by my by my points here.
All right, he says the inference is that Rihanna and Cardi B were
only better formed if they if they were only a little smarter,
and only a little more won't like him. If they only knew what
Twitter knows. They wind up with me quote, unquote, by the
way, I don't I don't I don't think Rihanna is dumb. I think
she's actually very smart.
You fell right into the trap?
Of course I did. Living up to my dumb white game. It's all good.
All right. So to get to that level, you can see why D Ray is
here. Yeah, he's, yeah. I'm gonna say let's get him being of
the LGBT community. He's like this guy. Shaun King. Hangover.
Rihanna, and Cardi B Yeah. And I'm sitting next own. That's the
art cume, that has to earn, um, but it's man. Um, but so now now
we're seeing while we're here, I went all the way around the
block to get us to the point of the beef. Now we understand the
beef. Now, there has been some issues. Even Shaun King himself
saying their biggest issues were his fundraising abilities. So
let's listen to fundraising fraud. Cain claims, one
of one of the critiques of you is that you're good at creating
stuff, good at building stuff, and good at fundraising for
stuff. But then somewhere between the conceptualization
and execution is a gap. Oh, that's true. That is probably
the best criticism of me that somebody can offer. Like I'm,
I'm a natural starter. I'm a, I've been fundraising my entire
life. And so I know how to pitch an idea. But I have struggled up
until the past two or three years to figure out how to start
something, grow it and maintain it. And the organization that we
started real justice is probably the best thing I've ever been a
part
of. Real justice. So that's the real justice pack. When we spoke
about before, yeah. So if you listen to say, Okay, so now,
Adam, you weren't venture capitalist. So let's look at
this in the light of a venture capitalist. I believe so it's
correct. Is that correct statement? Well, you
mean, you mean, like Soros is even more hedge fund and venture
capitalist?
What I mean is, say something like, Okay, this is my
understand how venture capitals work. Say, I have the MoeFacts
app and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Right?
Yeah. Okay. I'm a venture capitalist, I've
right and I want you to, I want you to fund me, and they'll tell
you, Okay, this is how it's going to work out them. You
know, it's going to be the best thing you know, ever. And all I
need you to do is throw your money in saying behind the
project, and we're going to be, you know, saying we're going to
change the world.
Great. Great. So what is my return on my investment?
Right? So but you give me the money, okay. So you say okay,
all right, I believe you, I'm giving you the money,
you believe me the money and then I come back and you say,
You know what? Me implementing this idea is my problem. You
know, I can come up with him. I have great ideas. But you know,
that money you gave me I just have problems with you know,
implementing the idea. That's basically what this guy just
said. Yeah, I need some more his last clip. Yeah, how can you?
How would that work out and and I know I'm maybe comparing
apples to oranges a little bit. But when you say you have an
idea, or you have a you know, something that's going to change
the world, people invest in you, they expect some kind of like
you'd like you just ask what's the return on my investment?
Now, it might not be money, but you want to see results? Right?
Well, what we call this executing, executing,
okay. Now, if I come back to you say, Wait, you know, Adam, my
problem is really executing. Yeah. Right. Is that an
acceptable excuse?
No, that is not acceptable that in fact, the only reason to come
back for more money with a venture capitalist is because I
can make even more money if we keep pumping more into it. We
can build more scale, but saying, I'm sorry, I couldn't
execute I need some more money is probably the worst thing you
could say.
But that's what he just said. Ah, so it's clear to me be clear
this is from BT. This is from BT. And he got no pushback.
Nobody said, Well, you know, difference between like a dream
and ideas either you can actually, you know, materialize,
it executes. Right execute, you can execute, but not he is
acceptable excuse that he can't execute. And nobody gives him
pushback. And I think that's what derailed saying, in his
article is like, do you guys so much money? But we haven't seen
anything? Change, right? We haven't seen any fruits, you
know, fruit. So you're saying of this money? Or suppose it hard
work. All right. So that's one thing he brought up in this,
this this interview would be tea. Let's go to fundraising
frogs too.
But the truth is, because I am who I am, because I look how I
look, there are doors that are open to me that sometimes
shouldn't like, there are privileges and platforms that I
get, there is this degree of even like light skin privilege
and accessibility. Like because I look how I look, that makes me
more relatable to white people in white spaces. So what I have
to do if I have some level of relatability that I didn't
choose, I was born with it. I have to use it, I have to
squeeze it have to maximize it.
So Mr. Shawn King, the ones always preaching about privilege
this and privilege that he likes to use the recipient, recipient
of light skinned privilege, and now this is
baseball. This is a real category this light skinned
privilege is called
colorism. Oh, colorism now it is heavy, heavy in the black
community is it is a real thing. It is but it's not exclusive to
the black community. The reason why I say that is the Indian
caste system is based off of colorism. When you go to Brazil,
it's colorism. So what it is, is the lighter your skin is the
more accessible or acceptable you are to white society. Now
let me make the point out DeRay Mckesson is dark skin. Yeah.
Well, I was just sitting here just I was just reflecting I'm
trying to think, how would I would I feel different? Getting
a pitch from the light, light skin, or dark skin? And I was
just I was contemplating it. I don't know. But I'm sure it
exists. I'm sure it's real.
I'm not saying I can't speak to how it is perceived from the
white side. Oh, but some people in the black community I'm not
gonna say all I never say all or anything. I believe that light
skinned people have an easier life. Now where that hits me is
I have two children and a brown skin and I have two children who
are light skin. I don't I don't think you know, I don't think
one gets privileged more than the other. But I think this
thought is taught at an early age. And I think two things are
being conflated here. Well, MTV, okay,
great. I'm sorry, just to interrupt you, MTV did a MTV
decoded video where they say colorism is not racism? Do you
remember
that clip?
Vaguely. Do you want to just hear that for a second here how
the young people are being taught today we're
talking about a mode of discrimination that
predominantly impacts people of color. And you might be
surprised hearing this from me. But this episode is not about
racism. I'm talking about colorism. First, let's be clear
about what the word colorism actually means. colorism is not
synonymous with racism. It's a form of discrimination based on
skin color. And before you're like Wait, isn't that like the
literal definition of racism? Hold on to your social
constructs because we're gonna knock a few Damn. And today
we've got a special guest to help us with this demolition
project. Haley, let's break this one down.
Glad OKC as a Latino of color colorism is something I'm all
too familiar with. Racism involves discrimination based on
things such as skin color, but it's also dependent on power
dynamics that becomes perpetuated by years of
structural oppression. Black and Latino men getting longer
sentences for the same crime is white men racism, black and
Latino odds telling you to date light skinned men. colorism
because we have to complete race with skin color. Sometimes
distinguishing between colorism and racism can get tricky
colorism It sucks. This is one way racism and colorism are
different systems of oppression favor white people, meaning
black people can technically be racist towards other black
people. But clearly in this case, they can and do perpetuate
colorism in their own communities, the discrimination
is coming from inside of the house. Example number three
language. This is a pretty common phrase people in Puerto
Rico and the Dominican Republic grow up with Katherine among
Spanish speakers in the Caribbean. The word means
someone low class or brutish, and descent by people of all
colors and racial backgrounds. The word implies you're acting
darker and both complexion and behavior, but the word itself
carries a linguistic and cultural connection to
blackness, it shares roots with a South African racial slur, cat
fear.
Wow, there's a lot in there.
There's a lot in there. And we're conflating two things.
Yeah, we have to understand where that thought process comes
from. Okay, so too, okay. So if you have a group of dark skinned
people, the way you get light skin had to be through
interracial relations, sex. So that means that you have a
parent or lineage from white people. So that's where that
thought process comes from, of lighter skin privilege. And it's
a real thing, because going back not going back in slavery. The
master kids that were his kids by a slave would often be given
their freedom. And so they created this subclass in black
society where they were not quite white, but there were a
bunch of black people. And that's where it comes from. And
it's just a long story short, um, but you have the brown paper
bag test you had the pencil test? Well, yeah, well, I'm
serious. Were in the late 1800s, early 1900s. You couldn't come
to certain meetings are married to certain families, if you are
darker than a brown paper bag, brown paper bag. That's crazy.
Wow, this is true. And Spike Lee's movie school days cover
this evening, sororities and fraternities were the same way
as well. If you go back and look at certain pictures from that
divine nine Greek fraternities I was telling you about, at a
certain time point, you will only see fair skinned people in
these organizations with certain hair textures, and they will
they won't marry white. So I will say if you were like skin,
you wouldn't marry white, but you will only marry like skin.
So, um, I
interrupted you, you were going to tell a personal story about
your kids. And I think I interrupted you. I'd love to
hear what you're gonna say,
Oh, well, like I said, it's I don't think people nowadays feed
into colorism as much because like I say, I have brown skin,
children and light skinned children. I treat them equally I
make them equal responsible. But like I said, what we're dealing
with is from the past. These are these are very old mindsets. But
as you know, with any privilege, people want to point it out when
it doesn't benefit them, of course. And it's amazing that he
openly said, Oh yeah, I've benefited from light skinned
privilege. But going back to the TED talks from the Black Lives
Matter. clips that we heard before there was one clip that
Miss Alicia Garza said that I found interesting.
The reality is that race in the United States operates on a
spectrum from black to white doesn't mean that people who are
in between don't experience racism, but it means that the
closer you are to white on that spectrum, the better off you are
and the closer to black that you are on that spectrum, the worse
off you are.
Yeah. So even she acknowledges it. So going back to I'm not I'm
not pro Deray I think he's honestly this is the snake
eating its tail. situation. Yeah, I'm just standing about
looking like eggs but you knew this. I could have told you this
was gonna happen. I could have told you d Ray was gonna play
that. He was going to play the color risk card, which he hasn't
yet but I mean, really play but that's
really reviving some old shit that has no place in society in
black society anymore, but yet it's being used.
Well, yeah, it's aggressive, great point. It but that goes to
show you that any privilege can be used even though it may not
be functional. I will Say this and I want to challenge you to
do something is not only is not only in our minds, the mass
media has something to do with this. And the reason I say this
is watch television on a commercial, you will never see a
man with a woman darker than him except Barack Obama. Well,
that's why he got so many credentials in the black
community. And he understood that. And he understood that.
He's, I have to go get, you know, the most system I can
find, and you know, and bathed in that. Yeah. Oh, Kamala
Harris. Yeah, colorism has an issue. She has a colorism
problem. She's darker than Cora. But she's lighter than Stacey
Abrams. Bingo.
Enjoy reach get off TV.
But that's why Jerry gets away with murder. Yeah. Yeah, that's
why it's why are we getting away with murder? If Joy Reid was,
uh, okay, say Joy read compared to I, um, what's the lady's
name? It's always on CNN.
Anna of Cabrera. No,
no, no. She's bear skin.
Oh, Ray.
Right, right, right. Right. Um,
Angela, Angela. Rai, rai. Angela. Right. Why do I know all
these black people? Oh, come on.
Because she's a great Twitter man.
Angela, right. Yes, we got.
Angela right was to say some of the things that darker skin
woman has said and you just said her name got off today. But Joy
Joy was the dark skinned lady for Ms. Embrace Joy read or read
if Jory. Drewery words would come out of Angela Ross. Now she
would be canceling. Let's be let's be clear on this. But when
you're dealing with why society, Shaun King says to get into make
people feel more comfortable. And we're talking about liberals
here. Let's be we're not talking about conservatives. We're
talking about liberal, the most liberal thinking people he even
acknowledged that his light skin makes people feel more
comfortable. So that makes you wonder, okay. There, his light
skin has become an issue clipped when
I have tremendous respect for the work that he's done. But
when you're if you hold yourself up to something, that is not
what you claim to be, then that's a problem if you're a
leader, not now, I'm not saying that he's doing that. But that
is what's in question now. And that's why this story is
newsworthy you here's what he said to me. So I asked him about
it, because there are all these claims about him. Whether he's
black, white, biracial, or whether he's was there a civil
hate crime that happened him back in 1995. And I said to him
last night, I said, What would you like to convey? And he said,
number one, this attack isn't about me so much, but about
derailing Black Lives Matter and the movement against police
brutality. And he said number two, the reports are all lies. I
tried hard to debunk them and others have said as a and others
have said that they are lies as well. And then he said I will
speak soon. And I asked him specifically I said you know are
you legally black? Are you legally white? Or are you
biracial? Are you black or white? He says I am biracial.
And I said is that what it is on your birth certificate?
He did not answer I'm gonna say this. And I'm not a burglar. I
didn't see that birth certificate. I didn't say it.
Yeah, he. Shaun King. People go look at him. He never struck me
to be a black guy. He never want struck me to be black. As we
pointed out on this show, when you're good for the movement.
They give you a pass. Right? The reason why I say that is we
recall Miss Rachel dollars.
Oh, my favorite.
Well, Martha, I'll be honest with you until a few days ago, I
thought he was a white dude. I had no idea that he was
pretending or telling people that he was black. And I know
some people out there are asking that very question that you just
had right now. Well, why does this matter? It matters because
for the past year, we have had heard this phrase white
privilege thrown around thrown in people's faces. It's been
used as a as a way to divide. I mean, this isn't Shaun King, by
the way isn't the first Rachel Dolezal Elizabeth Warren was the
first one Rachel Dolezal was the second Rachel Dolezal. And now
He's the third and it just seems incredibly ironic.
And he was born in Kentucky. And I was just I just brought up a
picture, take a look at it. I mean, he could be Latino for all
I know. And even then he'd be very, very light skinned.
Very light skin. And if, like I said, he's never struck me to
be. I mean, when I saw him, I didn't say that. Oh, that's a
black guy. Um,
I'd like to see him with. I'd like to see him with his hair
longer than I'd get a better idea is to do the hair
test. And he and he's, he's did the chameleon thing. He's
embraced the black hairstyle, the mustache. Yeah, you know,
saying way Rachid dollars out, which was a 100, Complete 100%
Complete white woman. Don't remember when she put the braids
in the skin tone, or Tanner, or however you want to call
it. She? She identified as black and she ran a local chapter of
the NAACP was fantastic. A great story.
But the So why did we counsel her. And Shaun King gets a pass
because
she, her parents came out and said she's white. And that's I
don't know, Shaun King's parents are.
Right. But for you to say, Ah, you don't bring for your birth
certificate. issues. But as we saw with Gandhi, as we saw with
Cesar Chavez, and we saw with it, as long as the imagery is
good for the movement, we'll give you a pass. And we knocked
out this is not only exclusive to Shaun King, the lady brought
up with with Elizabeth Warren. She got a pass. Oh.
You mean the whole Pocahontas thing? Yeah, absolutely. She
appropriating somebody whose culture? Yes. When she gets a
pass because she's for the greater good. And this is this
is their thought pattern for the greater good. But
when you say the greater good, we're talking about the greater
good for the money that the pizza for the people who are
holding the money who are going to give the money. Right? They
are great for the movement
for the for the right for the greater good. If we can make the
story go away. And in the clip before the last one we played
that was Don Lemon. Now that he was supposed to press Shaun
king, but everybody has hands off. This is what I think
everybody has the hands off on Shaun King. Whenever you can
motivate are the raising of $30 million. Yeah, you're gonna be
the money's going somewhere. Yeah, and you're the boss,
you're not gonna you're not gonna you're not going to be
canceled and a is not exclusive to him. Because the same way.
Elizabeth Warren Warren's not canceled because she's the front
runner for the Democratic nomination. She is the leading
woman candidate. And she wasn't canceled. But let's listen to
shocking dollars out too.
I mean, he had once suggested to a friend of mine, Lawrence
Jones, who was a black conservative that he wasn't
black enough somehow. I mean, I've watched this guy sit here
and call people white supremacist and use the term
white privilege and throw around these terms. So yeah, if you're
going to kind of throw around those terms and be out in
someone's face as the judge and jury of blackness or whiteness.
And this comes up, and there are records showing that your dad is
white. Yeah, it does become an issue because it shows that it's
ironic and you're a hypocrite
and if the color doesn't matter, Endo, then why throw all of
those, you know those phrases around from him?
Well, I don't know what phrases you're referring to. But even
Jesus, when asked about his brother and his mother said,
those people that do my Father's will and obey what He says those
of my brothers and sisters, about God being blessed and
standing with and you know, as much as I like to hear, Dana,
I'm gonna have to go with Jesus.
You can't can't argue that map. Now you you what you've just
witnessed is a Mind Control technique presented by the Male
Speaker In this clip, to my control black people. As we've
listened before, who do we say was on the wall?
Yeah, we got Jesus we get well now or before, before before
MLK. Malcolm
X. News? No, it was Malcolm X JFK,
JFK and Jesus. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right. And now replaced
by Oprah. Beyonce.
Is Jesus still there? Now, now he was replaced.
Serena Williams
Well, You know, I gotta say she is kind of Jesus. I'll give her
that. Right.
So, but as you're saying it was that was that was a deliberate?
Yeah, Mind Control answer to say it, you're saying energy Jesus.
And so the conversation to I hate to say the word again, to
my control black people, right now Jesus said Who's my brother
who's my mother? You know, how does that even equate? And in a
previous back and forth between these two people? He interjected
MLK talking points. Yeah. Okay. So he said he's using the
triggers he was he was triggering black people 100%
Because he says, It's not about the color your skin but the
context of your character. Yeah. Oh, hi. So this guy was It was
disgusting. It was disgusting what he did there. And you see
they're pulling all stops out to protect Shaun king. But Malcolm
X warned us about people like Shaun King, and how liberals
will use them 00.
I'm suspicious of whites who join negros and always have to
be in the league, who always have to be the head who always
have to be at the top in Negro organizations, those whites who
really have the interest of blacks at heart, let them give
some advice to some negros and stand on the sidelines. But
don't join the organization and then get out ahead of it, and
pose as a friend of negros. Today,
you could point to a large number of negro leaders who have
consistently betrayed negros and a whole host of era,
they aren't really negro leaders, these are puppets that
have been put in front of the Negro community by white
liberals. These are parents that have been put in front of the
Negro community by white liberals, you can't name me, a
negro leader who has been a negro leader who has been
betrayed who has betrayed Negroes who is not who has not
been endorsed, sanction, subsidized and supported
by the white number. Yeah, that sounds like Malcolm X, that's
for sure.
So to bring out the point, and what he's saying is, before we
can even get off the ground, we have to always deal with these
infiltrators. Oh, and this is what the claim that directors
making not that he's a white guy or anything like that, but just
that this guy's misappropriating funds, he's stealing money, you
know, he's disingenuous these things is only what C D Re is
self serving. Where are you at? When you're waha, hop, right.
And let's not forget, we started clips before D Ray was accused
of the same thing, misappropriating funds, stealing
Shawn from the people on the ground of Ferguson. So like I
said, this is the snake eating its tail. So this, this is where
we're at with this story. But as I did some more digging, as I
always do. I found out I found a potential smoking gun, Tom
Joyner Shaun King one.
But the most important thing we can do, I'm going to shave most
of my work on this and 2018 The most important thing we can do
is to let the progressive woke, conscious, reform minded
prosecutors. No single individual plays a bigger role
in the criminal justice system in this country than the
district attorney.
Ah, I knew you'd get to the Soros sisters eventually. Love
it. That is you. Right. That is ground zero right there when
that's come out. Kamala Harris, that's who's in Chicago. I mean,
it's everywhere now.
Kim Fox, Kim Fox, yes. I have a list of like 1015 names. And
like I said these things. These people are aligning on one
agenda. That's two what two agendas, but one is here that
illustrate one the flipping the House and the Senate. As you've
heard Cardi B say, she said we Yep. We got. Yeah. She said we
know she said we got out. Right. And now. You have a Shaun King,
who's on Tom's doing a radio show. With Tom Joyner.
I remember I have high high regard for Tom Joyner. I'm
hoping that he pushed back on Shaun King in this interview.
Hell no. You know, why? Don't you know why? Tom Joyner is a
business associate of news one.
Wow. No. Okay, guys. Got it. Radio One. Yeah.
Now you've heard why the first clip was so important. Oh, yes.
So protective of Shaun king.
And I liked Tom Joyner. Oh, man.
But Tom Joyner, he's, he's all nonsense. I mean, not saying
like that, but he's not trying to pick fights. He's not trying
to make enemies in high places. He gets shot to the platform.
You come on, you say your spiel, you know, you know, I'm not
gonna push why this point in his career with Tom during the push
back. Now, you could look it on University. What do you have to
lose? Right?
But why now? These kinds of people? The OG Charlemagne in a
way,
right? That's I'm learning Yes. Yeah. Yes, yes. And just to go
to show you why we say why is black right now we have we us
another common themes in the show that we were doing here or
this conversation, repeatedly is black radio. Yeah. Black radio
is so influential and black culture. Because it's access to
free entertainment. In your car, as you set your dance, yeah. You
know, um, and it's kind of waning now. Oh, you are you
know, satellite radio with satellite radio when people with
cords and Bluetooth? You know, it's kind of at answer black
radio, but black radio at one time was the end all be all?
Oh, for sure. And when I worked in New York, the C 100. Which
for sure. Cracker White Station? You know, the the biggest
competition was BLS was K to you. I mean, yeah, the black
radio was as always been very successful in urban markets for
sure. Because it's, it's access free access. Yeah.
Um, with the FM radio, you can dive right in. And if you need
to put a talking points out there. It is free over the radio
waves. So now we see from the beginning, the first clip to the
end. Shaun King is the eighth guy. Yeah, he's he's the IT guy.
He's protected. Because I when I heard that first clip, I was
like, why is this guy? He's not even being fair. You know, I'm,
you know, giving both sides of the story because I read both
articles. And I was waiting for him to drop some of the talking
points of D array. And it wasn't there. It was all well, Shawn,
you know, job seven, two page report and everything. Nothing
to see here. Seven panels sandwich seven person panel was
being cleaned up, nothing to see here. So I'm like, why is that?
And then and then when I looked at I was at our radio. I mean,
news one is a product of radio one. And then that's why it's
just a little behind the scenes. I was freaking out when right
before we were doing the show. Because the podcast monsters
didn't want me to have that clip. I just play.
It was trying not to get on the air. But we got it. Yeah,
right. We shut him down. I mean, because now you see. He is part
of the star Oh, sisters apparatus. Now why? Why is that?
I don't know. But maybe he'll shine light on Tom Joyner is
part two,
our nation has 2300 of them operating in every county and in
every medium to large city in America. No roll. No bigger
person has a larger impact on who goes to jail and who
doesn't. Who gets prosecuted and who doesn't? Then the district
attorney, no single person plays a bigger role in whether or not
corrupt and violent police are not only charged with crimes,
but also get convicted, then the DEA, they are essential. And let
me tell you something that's both shocking and disgusting.
Over the 2300 elected TAs in the United States, 95% of those
elected TAs are white. And 81% of them are white men in a
nation that's on its way to becoming a country of color. 95%
of district attorneys are white, and they are largely
conservative. It may very well be the whitest most
conservative, male dominated profession in America,
then I'm sure that's absolutely right.
So let me ask this question. So 95% are white right so that
means 5% of non white have their fiber sent Kamala Harris was one
of those 5% How does she do anything different? Then, you
know, when she's liberal, because he brought up
conservative, she's a female, black liberal. What she locked
up people use people first, basically slave labor. Oh, so
what's different? Well, I mean, what do you expect different as
long as he you know, I don't understand. Well, what is the
goal?
When she does it? At least she looks friendly. wished he was
she?
I think I think that's I don't understand what we expect
differently.
Well, let me let me get let me take another take a stab at
this. Because, you know, it's always Oh source this source
that and on the no agenda show, we've talked about this,
ultimately, very rich, the rich elites want want to control
chaos, so they can protect their own shit. And that's ultimately
what they want. They want to be able to control it. Now, in this
case, it's more of the same, except you better believe that
Kamala Harris is under control.
I totally agree with you. And as you brought up on the no agenda
show, and maybe let's just having heard this talking point.
Now we're starting to see these more liberal da saying, well,
anything under $1,000 Right are really a crime. You're so right.
So, okay, now, if I'm a poor person living in a poor
neighborhood, which crime happens very high, and we're
seeing a high rate that $1,000 affects me differently than if
I'm, you know, some I'm one of these people that make combined
income of 350k limit in the same gentrified neighborhoods. I was
just partying. I was just reparations or whatever. Oh, no,
it's
it's completely bullcrap. And you know, California, certainly,
Los Angeles, and I think San Francisco as well have have
ordinances where it's like anything, and I think it's, it's
750 or 1000. But it's like anything. We're not even going
to show up and the cops aren't going to show up not going to do
anything. Can't deal with it. It's what a crime of necessity I
think is the term. Yeah. Which is lawlessness, really.
So But now, I'm going to put my conspiracy tinfoil hat on. If
I'm trying to get rid of poor people, and Prom real estate.
And I can't drive them out. You know what raising prices? What's
what's the first vehicle to rent people out a neighborhood?
crime, crime, crime?
high crime? You got it? Wow. It's so cynical, man. It's so
cynical.
Ah, no. But that's the only that's the only the only way I
can look at it is. We've seen it with the crack era, we've seen
it with other influx of crime, you know, they're gonna let
crime happen. It drives them out of prom real estate areas that
have taken over by poor minorities. That is not a black
thing, you know, poor poor people in general. And if we
can't force them out, you know, it gentrification has got to get
in there black out right now. So we can't, you know, just
gentrify them. Right. To make them leave. Well, crime them up.
Yep. Yeah, we crowd them out. And then you know, oh, well,
liquid, they did their own communities. And
yeah, and I'm sure the redistricting, which is always
done in the guise of we, you know, like, Oh, we got to screw
the Republicans or the Republicans are trying to screw
us, but this would be another great way to district crime into
certain ads. It's an eye opener.
For sure. Yeah. Well, I can't wait till Kamala Harris
is our president, it's gonna be great.
That'll never happen.
Wow, Moe. This was good, man. This was good. I got a couple of
things to look into. But definitely, I wonder what the
next round is going to be of this, this medium fight because
you know, they've moved it beyond Twitter. Personally, I
think the people will tune out pretty soon. If they're, you
know, if they're, if they want to get in depth, they have to
read 70 pages of financial reporting. And you know, that's
kind of that's not how you change public opinion. That's
not how things change, typically, unless there's
illegality that can be proven, but I haven't seen that yet.
From this back and
forth. Well, the 72 page report works perfectly because he's
like, I dropped a 72 page report. It's all there, right?
Shut up. But you bury whatever is there because people like
Greg got to gloss over by page one or two. Yeah. And just
another example of these mediums. articles are great for
screenshotting and then posting on Twitter. That's how that's
how that thing works. You post it there, then you highlight
something you say you screenshot it, and you post it back on
Twitter.
Yeah, you're right. You're right. Wow. Well Moe, thank you
very much for for a yet again, an hour and a half of just
fantastic stuff.
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I hope all the listeners enjoy it
as well. And they find out you in it. So yeah,
you burst my bubble here when it comes to Tom Joyner. I'm a radio
guy. You know, Tom Joyner is famous for doing two stations in
one day flying back and forth. I mean, he's a fantastic radio
guy. But now that I hear that he's all in. That's
disappointing. Oh, he's, he's off the Christmas list. All
right, well, thank you very much. Actually, I should back
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All right, thank you Adam. As always say pay attention to
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See you next week everybody.
You really don't understand. Hey, man, don't you realize not
a first to make this thing work man. We've got to get rid of
them. Tamsin pushes into prostitutes and it's not all
over again clean
nobody's pushing me anyway okay. I mean that you not the cops
nobody man I mean you want to get rid of the pushes out to
help you but don't send your people after me
Come on John can you see that we can't get rid of one without
getting rid of the other we got to come down on both of them at
the same time in order for this whole thing to work for the
people nobody's closing me out of our business.