Moe Factz with Adam curry September 9 2019, episode number
six. And it's been way too long Mr. Moe.
Two weeks, man, it's been it's been killing me.
That was that it's I got the kind of like withdrawal
symptoms.
I know I was ready to do a show I couldn't. So I hope we do
twice as well on this show to make up for it for the people.
Well, I
was just looking at the, at the elements of the show you sent
over you got quite a number of clips here so I can I already
have some ideas as to what we'll be talking about today. I'm very
perceptive that way.
Yes. titling the clips gave it away. A little bit a little bit.
Little bit. Yeah, um, first of all, I want to say Happy 55th
Birthday to you. Thank you, sir. Yeah, thank
you, sir. Double nickels.
And just to let you know, I celebrated my 12th wedding
anniversary yesterday.
Oh, God bless you. Fantastic.
Thank you. Thank you. So I guess we're both have on how little
hangover from my house to celebrations.
Yeah, I have a hangover from your celebration. Exactly. All
right. I can't wait to hear we're going to do today.
All right. So just to catch you up. I don't know if you're great
Twitter line caught you up with Jay Z. And the latest on his own
happenings, just to fill the people in. And I know you're
aware that he signed a deal with the NFL. Yep. And that wasn't
well received by all in the black community,
particularly because he apparently the impression was he
left Kaepernick out of the deal. That was one thread that people
were unhappy with? Yes.
So they say he sold out Colin Kaepernick. That's how it's
perceived. And it's about a 5050 split. Half the people saying
it's good that he got to see the table in the NFL. And but the
other half are like Oh, Jay Z, you appropriated his us his
movement. It because even Jay Z had taken a knee and one of his
videos and Kaepernick Jersey, and then you go on to sign a
deal with the NFL so Right, right, right. What this has done
is made Jay Z a target of the black woke community wound so he
is up for a possible cancellation.
Well, how is the black woke community woker than the White
woke community?
Well, they are. I think they're allies. Okay, so in certain ways
you have the Liberals have black lives matter, they run in with
the intersectionality. Right crowds, so they share they share
common commonalities. And so like, like I stated before, he's
up for cancellation. And so they've been doing some digging
on his past clips. Oh, no. Foul, something's on Jay Z and single
parents.
You think about the idea of growing up in a single parent
house, which I grew up in which we grew up in. At first dealing
for authority, right? father's gone. So you might hate my dad?
Well, nobody tell me what to do. I'm the man in the house, that
you hit the street and you run into a police officer. And it's
first phase, put your hands up, shut up, and you like, excuse my
language, nobody likes you. Right. So that and that it's
actually causes people to lose lives. And we don't want people
that charge the police areas to be in danger, either. We want to
be very clear, you know, someone commits a crime, they should go
to jail. But these things are just disproportionate Christmas,
no disrespect. I don't want anyone that feels defensive. But
what I'm saying I'm just saying is true. And the people that are
here today, and the politicians that are here today knows the
truth, that's why they're here. And it's a humane issue. Right.
So if we
Okay, all right, so this was said on a panel with believe,
owner Robert Kraft from the NFL and he was speaking out. This is
back in January, actually, this is before he signed NFL deal.
And nobody really said anything about this, but once he signed
the NFL deal, then it became very relevant Of course, as you
know, with the cancellation crowd canceled culture. They
start to dig up past clips statements, and then they try
You weaponize it against you. This is what happened. So let me
tell you how this is received from the woke crowd. And this is
kind of for the no agenda listeners. This is kind of
dimension a dimension B kind of thing. Okay. So let's say
dimension woke. Dimension, Walt heard this as Jay Z justified
police shooting young black men, because they had they raised by
single mothers.
Yeah. Okay, I can see how they come up with that, of course,
it's the people see this movie with different eyes from
different dimensions.
Correct. And then you have an other side. And just to let
everybody know, in my position, I'm a straggler, because I can
understand both sides of it. And that's what gives me a unique
perspective. On the other side of is the more conservative
black crowd. And they say of course, yes, we heard this in
our previous what two shows ago with the Prager, Prager, you
Yep. Yes, that they're all about single parenting leads to
violence and you know, disarray and these kinds of things. And
it's like a one to one correlation, which is also
incorrect. So this is where I come in. But what he said is
somewhat correct, because when you don't have authority in the
household, and this is where this whole show is gonna go. And
we're gonna do some background and to how houses became a
single parent, because we touched on the topic, but we
never really got in depth on the subject. But before we get into
it, I want to go back to one the clips I played before talking
about the two dark patterns are two schools of thought driven by
think tanks. And that's trick baby.
As you liberals who have lifted them up power,
poor, you conservatives make a mistake. You can't afford to
strangle hope and people without hope. People will come
dangerous.
No, how're you liberals have let them invade our society. You
give them jobs, political job.
Oh, you missed the point. Suddenly, the smart ones we move
up? That makes it even worse? No, no, we have to move them up.
If we leave a smart one in the ghetto, he might develop into a
leader against us. But if we raise him up into white society,
we neutralize it. He feels compelled to try black like us.
He loses his identity and his racial anger. If he has the he
becomes alien do his brothers. They realize he sold them out
and they grow to hate him. He becomes worthless to them and
say for us. No thank you. In fact, in his love for the
creature comforts except for its color. He's become one of us.
Oh, lovely dinner, Mortimer. Always a good time chatting
about the black man.
Right. So I played this clip. So you can hear we're Jay Z is big,
where people are saying Jay Z is Ed that he's been let into the
club. And now he's been neutralized. And he's been. I've
said this before, and I don't know if I said it here on this
show. But I've said it in my podcast. This is Jay Z taking
this deal with the NFL. Is his Bill Cosby poundcake pull up
your parents moment. Hey, yeah. For people who don't remember
that God's speech given by Bill Cosby. He was like, yeah, they
kill each other that for some pancake or something like that.
He was talking really down to the black community. That's how
it was perceived, but it had good messaging in it. But the
tone and from where it was coming. It sounded very elitist.
Yeah, okay, I'll just kind
of fell apart a couple years ago, obviously,
right when he needed his community to back him and this
is just this goes to, I think this is going to be in
compensated a lot of conversation that we had on
previous clips. To be protected by the black community, you need
to have an overwhelming majority. Just like with voting,
you got to have about 80 90% of the black community behind you.
Because that makes enough noise to where you can use it as a
tool to protect you either right or wrong. We seen this with our
Kelly. We saw this with other other people that it has
transgressions, but they can drum up enough support that it
makes them a hard target. But as soon as that support is
fractured, then you become open game for anybody that wants to
take you down. As Jay Z is being done now about the world
community. I don't know what they're surprised about, um,
with this clip that he said, Because he said these exact same
things and songs as his, over the years, multiple times, but
now that you're a target of canceled culture, this is where
we're at. But what I want to talk about more is the
conditions of a single parent home. And this show how we got
there, how we really got there, like the step by step. And we
talked about the no parent in the house, and no man, excuse
me, no man in the house and things of that nature, but we
never really dug down. And this is a huge problem in the black
community. And I think it was even number one on the progress
list. If I'm not mistaken, it was top three, at least. But
let's get into. So this is a conspiracy to destroy black
boys. Um, let me see how the, and this book that was written.
This is something that my both my parents were educators, um,
and this book floated around the house, because it was passed
around, I think, between black teachers. And I'm gonna get the
man's name. I had it in my notes, but boys, I'm doing this
on the fly.
I was actually already googling this job Kwanzaa can juphal
kanji for
SEO? Yes, yes. Correct. He wrote two books. There's two volumes
to this. And he basically goes, and this was back in 1985.
Tonight, and this clips are from 1987. I think the book was
written a couple of years beforehand.
Yeah, it looks like 1983 when it first came out. Great. Yeah. So
this is at the time when I'm a small boy. And I remember these
conversations being had and my parents have used to have these
conversations at the dinner table of just like, how we're
being raised. And when we say I'm older, I'm the youngest. So
they have the conversation with my older siblings. And I
remember the some of the sentiments that were shared in
this book. But let's get into our conspiracy to destroy black
boys. One,
when the economy changed the family structure, there was more
than love and these relationships, there was a money
about it. Our grandparents worked the fields together, had
economic reasons to stay together. So they did in a
factory man Wilson factory woman takes to church economic reason,
again, it's played against, but in this new economy, well, you
now have women working just as much if not more than men, you
now hear women telling me, I don't need you got my old job,
do what I want to do when I want to do it. And we're now doing it
very well. And by ourselves.
Oh, man, that sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Yes, it sounds sounds very familiar. And it's even been
more telling in current times where we're at, I think, maybe a
fourth iteration of he was talking about from the fields,
our culture's industrialization, to now the computers, acute
periodization to now I think we're like, maybe at a
automation. I think that may be the fourth. Yeah, what we're at
now, and we're seeing even more because men don't need women in
men don't mean women don't need men. At this time, because every
service that you need for the opposite sex, there's an app for
it now.
Almost everything, yes.
Right. I mean, you got door door, I mean, for guys cooking,
cleaning, I mean, not the same thing, but that's what the
critical thing is that you need to run a household you can get
those done by third party. And for women, you know, um, you
know, take you know, the, you see these handyman apps and, you
know, was Angie's List and yeah, sure, so these things are he was
saying into the future when he said this. I don't want to
belabor the point. Let's get into clip two.
Now we have a lot of people making plenty of money and
lonely place money before family. You see black men, where
do you go white men do buy their family a house in the suburbs to
car and once a year go down to Orlando for disney world
vacation. And when black men can't do that, they don't feel
they're worthy enough to
stay right. And be as as a black man, this is true. We don't want
anything different than the average white man or any other
man in America, you know, we want the house. The two cars
Yeah, the vacation to Disney Of course.
Right? But we you can't provide those things in this
capitalistic society. You feel worthless. And when you feel
worthless, it's up to the woman to decide if you have any that
you're not. So let's listen to clip three,
nicely. The problem is there are two responses black women can
get to black men went out of work. The first is my son woman
says, What if you didn't work and you gotta go? If you ain't
working, you got to go. That's the mistake. Because black men
don't hire no fire. No control the means of production. Now,
before Black mysteries say That's right, brother, you tell
him, please brothers quit assuming that black women took
our jobs away. Because black women awesome. Do not hire no
fire. We are being played off against each other for some
crumbs.
That's quite the allegation. So how did you receive it? Well,
it's
completely as if black men and women are helpless and do not
control their destiny.
So this is how I received and that's why I like having this
conversation session with you. Because as we seen, you can have
one statement received multiple different ways just by
perspective, of course, I'll receive that as if you have to
have a certain number of black people in office. Say, you know,
we talked about affirmative action. This is at 10 13%.
Right? What I want, just speaking from how black people
see it, I mean, we always conspiratorial because of the
things that have been levied against us throughout the past.
So we have a conspiratorial vein in us. So if that 13% was
majority men had to be man, because women were in in the
workforce in the 50s 60s, you know, saying maybe even up to
the early 70s, will you start seeing the same amount of black
faces, but less men that's being perceived as the black woman are
taking your jobs?
Ah, okay, well, I can understand that I see how that perception
would be there, then, who knows, some of it may be true,
certainly back in the day when this was playing out.
And there's a there's a underlying reason for that,
because a black woman is a double minority. What I mean by
that is, you kill two birds with one stone because you bring a
black woman and you could check the box of a female, you get
extra points. And, and a black, black person.
And if she has a hump, I think there's a third, then you get an
extra.
Now, this is, so now we see. It's not that, you know, the
elite are, you know, whoever's doing the hiring, or whatever
are pro black women is just that we can mask ourselves in these
double minorities, as we've seen with the NFL had been claimed,
we can mask ourselves with a Jay Z. And, you know, dodge, the
fact that we're racist or whatever, whatever it is, if you
want to be labeled as right, which
is which is what we kind of I certainly how I view this deal
with Jay Z is like, okay, just when there's a lot of heat on
political supporters of Republicans, specifically Trump,
we've had we've had big donors being called out we saw equinox
and, and SoulCycle. We saw people getting really upset with
the owners because they supported Trump. And my feeling
has always been NFL is like, get let's get out ahead of that. And
let's bring in Jay Z called Jay Z.
Right. And it's super
cynical to think that but Jesus seems so true to him. So
if you think that way with Jay Z, why wouldn't people think the
same way? And we got to understand that climate we're
talking in the early 1980s? Yes, of course, is not that far
removed from when you had a workspace of mostly men? Yeah.
All right. So we have to look at it in a in a proper time
context. But let's go into conspiracies. 2.1,
we can look at some mothers. And I said some not all, the rumor
is that some mothers raise their daughters and love their sons,
my boy always loved his mom. 40 years of age still at home with
you that needs to stop you boys, not yours. He the future
husband, a future father, and needs to be raised that way not
known historical reason. The historical reason is our society
has always tried to destroy black men dimensions. So black
mothers always want to over protect their sons. What's the
reason today? Is it because you own black man didn't stay? You
now replaced your man with your son. Quick tell him his nine
year old boy. They demand a house. Ain't no nine year old
boy ready to be no man. Uh huh. You know what sad though? These
brothers think, but they can do with their mamas. they can do
with a teacher, the coach and everybody else.
Oh, yeah. Now, let me just I have some experience with this.
After years of therapy, it's called Emotional blackmail. And
it's often not intentional, and it probably is never
intentional. Similar to me, where, oh, you're the man about
the house now now you got to you got to take care of stuff and
take care of me. And it can, it can cause damage down the line.
I think so. I think that's very true. So how we got from the
first two clips is that first group of clips was to explain
how the man was removed from the home. So now we're at the point
where the man's on the house, we've gone over that multiple
times before how how the mechanism was used. And we know
this comes from governmental decisions to remove the man and
we see how it trickles down. Now the woman has the male child
standing in the gap for the man that has left the home. Right,
and as you says, as you said that they start to put
responsibilities on that male child that shouldn't be there
and that male child is also given. free rein are allow
what's the word I'm looking for? He was given a abilities or
allowances to do whatever he feels, there sees fit
privileges. privileges, that's the word I'm looking at. Yeah.
So it goes back to Jay Z statement, when he encounters if
he's treated as a man or the authority figure at home. And
he's not made to be show any respect to authority figures.
When he encounters that police officer,
he's he's not gonna have air he's not prepared, he's gonna
have the wrong reaction.
He's not prepared for that situation. And that is where,
where we that's where we're at. So let's just listen to 3.2
interesting with the fathers there. So you something about a
black man or father seeing this male does his same size, sitting
on his sofa? In the bar food boy, you gotta go see his dog as
long as she wants to see the mother knows a daughter. So the
mother, you gotta go to see mothers make the daughters go
and violence make the sons go, but when the Father's not there,
there's nobody makes us go.
Yeah, right on.
So this is where we're at. And if you notice, majority of the
problems in the black community happened with the black male.
Why is that because they don't have the the leadership, the
role models. Now, we saw that in the theme two shows ago when
that the black cop was in the community, and he said, You got
to give the kids the tough love. Um, and that's what boys need.
Your father keeps you in line. He lets you know Life is not
fair. As one of my favorite lines of my dad. Life is our
affairs where they judge pigs.
Yeah, so I gotta tell you, I am happy. You're, you're like 1718
years younger than I am. I'm really happy to hear that
because I grew up with life's not fair. Not my mom was the one
who told me that my dad wasn't around much. I hope it's still
being said, Because seems like with all the wokeness around us,
this may not be something that is repeated the way it used to
be.
We're gonna see that it's not the game. The game. Always get
ahead. Alright, so let's get into 3.1. And we're gonna it's
gonna be a great segue. So my
point is it blockboard Coming right to you. A black woman? No,
we'll probably have the old black man. I'll be corrected
with your son, saying, You know what the problems are the black
men, your little son. That's somebody else's says. All what
you know, needs to be done. Put that into
his. Right. So if we've been a matriarchal society from maybe
let's see the late to mid the mid to late 70s. Let's just say
that fair. That's when it became, you know, 50% or more
majority. Why hasn't? Why haven't women create demand the
men, their daughters will love to marry? I don't think it's a
fair ask to start off with.
I think there's I'm not sure that women can do that. I don't
know if that's the way nature works.
Even I think I agree with you. But if you say, Ah, okay, if you
go back to Jay Z's statement, and what he said about single
parent warming, you know, can't raise a man. We've said this
multiple times before. This is the pushback that he got, what
do you mean? What do you mean? Oh, a woman can't raise a man,
you know? So there's this fallacy?
Well, yeah, okay, I totally understand what you're saying
that. And this is a part of woke culture, where we're all
completely equal the same, there's no difference. Exactly.
And, and that is just emphatically not true. There's,
there's no, I helped raise a daughter. But you know, if I was
only me, I would don't think I would succeed the way it would
work with two with a two parent household or maybe with just a
mom, I don't know. But I it's yeah, the woke, the woke crowd
will say, of course, you can do that. And I think nature might
tell us something different.
It tells us very loud and clear, but we ignore what it tells us.
And we keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
And what did they call that? That's called insanity. That's
right, by definition. You make a great point, I grew up in a
house with two other brothers, my father and my mother, no
sisters. So now having three daughters I'm lost. Right? And
if it was just if it was just me, and we need to start having
this conversation and always blame the women blame the men,
no men and women have roles and responsibilities. And they're,
they're exclusive to either sex. When it comes my daughter's I am
completely lost. Completely. I'm
sure you're not completely lost. But I feel Yeah.
Trust me. It's like, I need an interpreter for my wife to like,
what does that mean? Like my little, little anecdote, you
know, but my oldest daughter, which is she'll be 16. October
can come walking in. And my wife can read from her mood, what's
going on? I didn't see her walking across the room. I hear
you. My wife was saying something's wrong. That's
that secret female code has nothing to do with age. I agree.
That goes to show you I have a deficiency, but I accept that
deficiency. And I have to defer. So my wife the same way with
young boys. You can't tell them everything is going to be all
right. And life is fair. Everybody gets trophies. You
know, we've seen this with the trophy culture. No, life has
winners. It has losers. But you do have a win. If you gave it
your all. And losers can win. Yeah, of course. Right and lose
it. So there's nuance there. But now we fast forward. Madame
noir, which is a popular website for black women. And in my my
viewpoint, it propagates a lot of liberal slash feminist
ideology. And let's listen to them raising black boys.
That's, that's an important answer. Both of you guys just
talked about legacy. And the future. Did you all plan to be
mothers?
Absolutely not.
Say No, I was a teacher. I'm a teacher. And I think that was my
philosophy is I'm a teacher, so I don't have to have kids. I'll
take care of other people's kids. Okay. So like, that was
never my mission to be somebody's mother. Because
that's, like, so much more intense, because there's so much
more responsibility because they're mine now, so I really
can't mess it up.
I don't think anyone plans to be a mother a parent. You You're
never prepared for that. Like, nothing can prepare you for it.
There's no book No book we have ever.
Okay, I agree with some of what I heard though.
Bush, you heard twice in this clip. Okay, let me let me I did
a poor job sitting to clip up. So this is a panel discussion.
It's like six women on the panel. The moderator is a man.
And he's asking questions about raising children, black boys
specifically. And you heard twice in this clip. No one, not
some people. This is their mindset that No one plans to
have children.
Yeah, no, I disagree with that.
No, but it was said twice. And out of six people and the
moderator nobody pushed back against the actually they you
know if you saw the video, they were like, yeah, like,
well, this begs the question, do you feel that there's much less
family planning going on? Yes. And just whatever happens
happens. Is that what it is,
I think that is a lot too. Do with it. My problem and the
reason why I clipped this was the acceptance of that. This is
from this is a clip from 2018. You will think, where if a
problem if you think in single parent households play black
women at a 75% rate hit rate, correct? Right. You would think
that will be the most sensitive to play out planning parenthood
planning, planning? parenthood? Yeah. And
I would and I would say because it was a panel if it if it only
been said once and people glossed over to be like, okay,
in soccer, all right, but twice, yes, I want you to put their
hand up
twice, and then six people, nobody pushed back against it.
And to say no one. They didn't say like a lot of people or, you
know, majority, No one plans. So that was very troubling to me.
So let's get into just so happens.
So like, when I was pregnant with my first son, I never
forget that the CEO of my school, her first words to me
were, oh, but you're not married? And what kind of role
model is that, you know, for for your students? Right. She tried
it. And, and I had explained to her like, you know, I'm not
married, but that does not negate like the woman that I am
or the man he is in the family that we're about to create. It
just so happens that this happened first.
out of wedlock, which I have no issue with. My concern is she
said this, let's be clear. These are six professional women. So
these women are educated, accomplished. And she says,
okay, just just to break down a clip a little bit. She says the
CEO her school, which I'm think she means principal. Yeah. But
that may be a new term for Bravo school. I don't know what kind
of school system Yeah, right, what kind of school that was,
but comes to her and say, you know, we look to you to be some
kind of role model to the kids. So how does that gonna be
perceived? As she pushes back like, oh, yeah, she tried that
with me. Right? Yeah. Which was weird.
Well, she goes is the thing. Otherwise, she wouldn't have
said it that
way. Right. So but what gets me is that you say you didn't from
the previous clip, she was one of the women that says No one
plans this. Your appear and your supervisor come to you and say,
oh, so Aren't you a little worried? I mean, I you say you
catch the attitude back saying, Who are you to say this to me?
What are you gonna say? It just so happens? Right? Right. Right,
right. So what I'm saying is we create this environment. This
thing, she got a chip on her shoulder about it. So it's a
privileged thing, that certain people are above reproach. I
know I made a and I hate using this word, I made an unplanned
event. I say,
well, well put, diplomat you are?
I'm navigating the waters.
We won't tell you kids which one?
Right? So you made an unplanned event appear? And maybe I guess
maybe they're older or more, they seem to be more. As I know,
maybe I'm just assuming here asking you like what's going on?
Did you think this thing through? And let's be clear,
women have a bunch of options, pre and post conception. If you
don't feel like it's no the right time or whatever, you have
a bunch of measures, but that's not here today. I don't like
going and getting into that conversation. But this person
says they're up above reproach, like, No, you can't ask me that,
you know, we're just gonna play it by ear, you know, see and see
what happens. And these are how a lot of these single parent
households begin. Which I just find a little bit troubling.
Well,
it's now I can't say that I have listened to the same types of
conversation from white women. It may be very similar. I don't
know.
I think it is very similar. And I think this is where you get
the the pro the big, pro choice push from because no one's
planning it. I don't think this is exclusive to any community. I
think this is a cultural thing of
the day.
Right? It's a it's a it's a generational thing. And it's
been, you know, this we're probably in the second or third
generation, maybe more All of this being acceptable. And we
have ways of, you know, cleaning up our mistakes, if you know if
that's the word you want to use, and I try to avoid using that
word, but this is where we're at. And so the conversation
between these women further, and it's not like they don't know,
the systematic plans that we discussed on the show
previously.
Well, speaking about children and family units, you know,
studies come out, they say, there are more single black moms
in this country than any other race.
When it comes down to it, I believe that in a certain sense,
black people as a whole were aligned for family units to be
divided. And I think that was done in a systemic way. I
believe that, you know, they created certain systems to
enable the women to feel that they did not have a need for the
men and in turn, it caused, you know, a lack of worth for the
black man and he's very needed, you know, he is someone who is
valuable he is someone who needs to be in the home or that your
young men need to look up to but I feel that systemically we were
programmed to feel that, you know, we can do this without
them, vice versa, things like that. And it's unfortunate
because it's not accurate information, in my opinion.
Oh, thank goodness, someone with half a brain on the panel.
And they were all saying yeah, yes. So they're aware. It's not
that we don't know the things I discussed in the show may be new
to some people but in our community, we know that there
has been things set up because they're common barbershop Beauty
Shop discussions. So we know and I just wanted to let people out
I just wanted to show that clip to say these people are not
oblivious to the systematic plans of you know no man house
and things and welfare culture and things of that nature where
they still fall in the same traps that are set up and I
don't understand why maybe it's because due to privilege you
don't have to do any self reflecting okay, I'm sure you
equivocal or equivalent to black men. We know high blood pressure
is one of the deadliest thing for black men right?
I guess I'm not aware of
it is I mean are Calm down man
mo calm down.
So salt is seeing in the black community as a deadly deadly he
was saying you have a PSA yet started salts gonna kill you,
man. Your pressure man. US Oh, you see this corrective behavior
or mindset between men because it's like, Hey, man, it assaults
gonna kill you. But it's everything of responsibility.
But when you have a whole system set up to make people not have
responsibility, because it benefits the system that set it
up that human nature hardest. Yeah. That's the hardest thing
to compete. I mean to incorrect, compete with it correct. Let's
go on to the hardest thing. What do you think
the hardest thing is to do as a mom? In 2017? Parenting? What
are the things you're worried about the most raising black
children?
That I have boys? I have two boys. Two boys, and how do I
like prepare them for that life? Yes, we're flooded the stress.
And and there's a lot of stress that I don't know, as a woman.
Yeah, because we have stressed but we also can navigate circles
a little bit better, because the women because we're like, I
don't? How do I prepare? You know, for those moments when he
comes home and something has gone awry in the street and he
doesn't know how to deal with it. Right? Or?
Wow, it's full of contradictions this panel.
Thank you. I'm glad you realize that and it's like I was
listening to this thing. Like you know what the problems are.
But you continue to fall form. Yeah, and imagine a young black
boy growing up with this kind of chaos. I can't say any other
word is mental chaos. And there's a reason for that and
we're gonna get to the it's gone. Let me Disclaimer,
disclaimer, I need a disclaimer. This is not a beat up on a
certain segment of society. Show Well, I'm laying this all out
and as you know, always come back around at the end, and we
get the full picture. But it's hanging there with me. Just
saying that right. People that may read they click the stop
button or the skip button is hanging out with me.
misogynist mo on the microphone.
I got three daughters.
Oh, no, that doesn't count my friend. My best friends are
female.
Africans are female.
Some of my best friends are female.
Female. Alright, so raising black boys fear,
it's hard to let them be free. When we're fearful, right? Yeah.
Because you know, cuz my best friend, she said like that boy
be free. Yeah, he wants take off his shoes, I don't think it's
hard like for them to be free, like, when we're a little
fearful and I think that's the, that's the tension of like, I
want them to grow. I want them to explore and try stuff out.
But like, I'm, I'm a little scared.
Wow. Okay. So imagine you have a rambunctious boy that wants to
be a boy. And you have nothing but this fearful fear. Energy,
which, I mean, this is perception, this perception, but
I think women may be more fearful, out of survival
mechanism, you know, just through throughout, you know,
time, you know, they have to be more concerned in that thing.
And you have the, that's how I was saying before about my wife,
her antennas are always up, right? And what I do is come in
and I calm like, oh, it's gonna, you know, it's gonna be it's
gonna be alright, you know, are, you know, you kind of put
yourself between, um, between them and the threat. And I think
that's what men not to horn here. But I think that's the
function of us. And maybe that's why we die earlier. I don't
know. But we're always putting ourselves between the threat and
the fear. If your wife hears a knock at night, you're the one
that gets up and goes, inspects the knock, knock her antennas
up, but you respond. And I just just have something that I just
did just think that's how that works. But we hear this thing
called fear comes up and later on the clip was too long to clip
but the talk yeah, comes up. Now, Adam, I know, maybe you may
be aware of the talk. Can you tell me what that is?
Yes. The talk, as far as I'm aware, is when? And I think it's
typically the parents, but it may just be the father or the
mother. But whoever the authority figure is, sets the
young man down. And I don't know if it's just men, I think,
certainly it would have to be and says, Alright, here's how
you're going to be perceived in the world. Here's what it's like
to be black when you encounter. The top one, of course, is when
you encounter the police. Here's how you act hands on top of the
steering wheel. Yes, sir. Yes, officer, you be polite, because
that will keep you alive. I'm summarizing, but I'm pretty sure
that's about
right. And you can see how this aligns back to the the cause of
this conversation, the Jay Z statement of what if that talk
is not had. So what here's the two option you have, as he was
saying, as a majority of black men raise and a female dominated
household, either you're going to be extremely feel fearful. Or
you have no respect for authority, and I know there's a
lot of gray in between that black and white. But that is
you're really left with either you don't respect the authority
and you're saying you're going to combat it, or are you going
to be so fearful that you live a life of anxiety? Um, ah,
inferiority, mental anguish and things of that nature. And this
is a very that's why you need that calming energy. My dad had
Okay, let's get into a fast forward. But so we seen
companies like Procter and Gamble. Yeah, I've
seen this one. I make study of these types of commercials. So I
know what's coming next.
I don't know how they sell soap or Clorox. But Procter and
Gamble the talk who said that
good lady at the store. That is not a compliment. Listen, it's
an ugly nasty word. And you are going to hear it. Nothing I can
do about that. But you are not going to let that word hurt you.
Hear me?
There some people who think you don't deserve the same
privileges just because of what you get. is not fair. It's not
remember, you can do anything make a
difference is you got to work twice as hard and be twice as
smart.
come straight home and practice. God Okay, stop how's your rear
view? Mirror? Good, good. Okay, good. Now, when you get pulled
over, I'm a good driver. Don't worry, it's not about you
getting a ticket. It's about you not coming home. I'm gonna be
okay one of the many things I love about doing the show with
you Mo is even though I've seen this commercial I've studied
with Procter and Gamble is doing. You have ripped yet
another layer of some kind of crap across my eyes and like
hole man, I didn't even realize it was a mom, I think talking to
her daughter. Hmm. So could not be any further from perhaps the
actual talk as as I've heard of it, a father and a son or
parents in the sun.
And what was missing from that commercial dad? Not a single one
in the whole two minute commercial. Wow. stunning,
stunning. Yeah, let that sink in and that they are eight moms
maybe in the commercial just by percentages. You should at least
have two dads. Oh, wow. At least one not a single dad. And not a
single one.
You know, what would I you know, coming from the advertising
industry. I think the reason why you're seeing that in this
commercial is first of all, just like Gillette, I think these
companies are full of shit. They want to sell so but they want to
sell razor blades or whatever. Who does the shopping. It's the
mom. So they're targeting moms. They're not targeting any
goodness, they're targeting moms.
And that's what it is trauma base advertising. Oh, it's what
it is.
Does that is that already been that's a good one trauma base
TBA baby?
Yes, that is that what we have trauma based entertainment as
he's 12 years of slave the show all these movies coming out. But
now we're starting to cross over into the entertainment to the
advertisement through
exploitation.
So as you're saying, The Father is missing. So we're gonna go
back to one last clip from the mountain war panel, engage.
I want to say that black men, they need to engage, engage with
your children, not only like, take them to the movies know
engage, like play. Enjoy your children, no matter what the
circumstances are. Enjoy your children. Because that's what
they remember. Okay. They remember you playing basketball
with them. They remember you riding bikes with them. They
remember that and it sticks with them. Engage in joy, your
children.
Yes, I agree. So so now you have a mother telling a father how to
be a father. You're not doing it right? No, I'm not. Right. But
the problem with that is and it's very seldom talked about
fathers are second class citizens or second class parents
in this country now
and I just want to want to pause there in our country indeed this
is because I'm a student of advertising every single
especially if it's a white guy that's even better every single
ad where there's a dad he's always a doofus. He's a numb nut
he got the wrong shopping list he didn't do it right he bought
the wrong cars got the wrong clothes on. That is a cultural
thing across the board that's been going on for years now.
It is if you look at modern family
it's still another fantastic example.
But that is that is propaganda people don't understand these
television shows just like I was brought up before about I'm
married with children that shaped the culture for that
time. Dad was useless shoe salesman. Now you fourth fast
forward now dad like said dads. Yes. The dads basically ate that
idiot ATM you know he just kicks out in the money and if you know
but you know why he has to be that way and that's a great I'm
glad you brought that we see Allah we do this is because
fathers don't have any rights in this country. And a woman can
have removed from the household for any reason whatsoever.
Anytime separates you from the children for no reason at all.
That's why the dad has to be such a pansy. Yes, I want to use
another word but I mean
Yeah, yeah. And I'll tell you that, certainly when it comes to
divorce and separation, and Europe is worse they are, in
fact, they are so much evolved. They're way ahead of us on that.
And the dad is automatically pretty much the loser, you got
to prove that you're not. Yeah, it's cultural across the board.
And I blame advertising on and, and I'll just put television
entertainment in the advertising category there.
Alright, let's get into second class parents.
Do you have a child who says yes, that's not your child.
Okay, just to say that Trump is both of yours. So either you
take the child or he takes the child, he's the father, no less
than you are the mother. So he told me he was going to take
awhile with him at 130 in the morning, I had to go second,
just a second. So he said, If I'm going to leave my house, if
you told me to leave the house, I'm gonna take my daughter with
me, even though I have sole legal custody. No, no. At that
point, are you telling me what a court order giving you legal
custody of your child? The answer is no, you know. So at
that point, you have mother case, the Father, He has as much
right to take that child as you to. That's how I've been told.
Well, if you've gotten different advice, you will mistake it's
okay. In this country. Fathers are not second class citizens. I
know there are a lot of people out there, including judges and
probation officers who still don't get that message. But
fathers are not second class citizens. Sometimes they're
actually better parents. Not all wins. Sometimes it's 5060. But
it's on a case by case basis. But anybody that says to me can
take my daughter with him. It's not the worst of yours. You made
her.
Oh, man, there's so much about this versus Judge Judy. Right?
Yes. Judge Judy. St. Judge, Judy?
Well, I got it, I gotta tell you a couple things. First of all,
the child is always yours. When the child has done something
shitty. It's like your daughter has done this and that. And
that's, that's universal. And nice. I think I would still get
that if my, my kids are small enough to be in that much
trouble. Second, when I was in college for all three months, in
West Virginia. Ty Hamilton was my roommate. And there's there's
three things that his because we all hang out. We're in the same
dorm room. Three things we'd watch on television, and his
buddies came over and did all black. I have to mention that.
Football, of course, basketball wants out his sports. Let's put
it that way. Golden Girls, and Judge Judy. And I was like, Wow,
you really liked like the show, Judge Judy being favored amongst
black men. I know if that was just that time. Wow, maybe cuz
she's fair.
She She's fair. And that's all we asked for. It's fair, even
though it doesn't exist. But I mean, she's one that it can be.
But I use this clip to illustrate that the privilege
the privilege the mother felt in this case, what why is my
daughter?
She said it? I have so joint custody and judge you like wait
a minute. Have you went before a judge and got that in right now?
Yeah, but I have sold joint custody. Wow. And so called
cultural misunderstanding. You take that mindset. And the you
multiply it by a group of people that haven't gotten the most
fair shakes with the justice system, right. And now you see,
a lot of I know a lot of people that have been through family
court. And your best case scenario, best case is that you
pay a chunk of your salary out and we're going to discuss how
that's calculated a little later on. And you get two days out
every 14
Yeah, it seems so standard. Yeah.
So to go back, the woman's like, engage, engage with your child,
how can I engage when you? No, no, marginalize me to being a
14, you know, one to two days out of every 14 day parent. And
you use the court system family court system as a weapon. Now, I
am not a white supremacist see denier. And the reason why I say
I'm not is this is a clear case. There appears to be white
supremacy. So do explain. Now we go back to man in the house law,
correct. Man the house law. This has been the tool so further and
I use is where before marginalize dads in general. But
when you have dads that fall below the poverty line, they
can't hire good lawyers to fight for their rights in court. Black
and brown men don't get a fair shot or a just shot in family
court. Well,
so when you say white supremacy, you imply that there may be a
misunderstanding, but you imply that there is a systematic plot
to disenfranchise black men, and I personally think it's poor
men. It may have come from black men. But you think that that is
still alive and well today and it's being done specifically for
someone's color?
Someone's colored, okay. If I want to and the thing is, here's
the thing, I think about white supremacy. I think it's about
maintaining rulership. And this is about elite. It doesn't have
to do with every white person. And that's, that's the thing.
All our conversation has been about the elite, the
conversation about between the two men of how to handle the
black race, we're between the elite. Okay, I
got you, I'm with you.
So that's why it's not. That's why you had to be very careful
with those word white supremacy because it's about people that's
in rulership, maintain your rulership. And what is the
predominant race of people in rulership?
White?
That's my point. I'm not saying it's the monks all white. Well,
let me let me let me let me approach it from a different
direction just to get some context. Okay. And thank you
for, for going into that. I would say if you look at the
black population, as a voting bloc to be controlled, or black
women as a force that you want to control, then yes, I think
that is absolutely in play. And it's we see it in play today
with the current people who are running for the Democratic
nominee, and and others. I mean, it's it's all over the spectrum.
From that regard, then I would say, yeah, everything is being
done to control the black population to maintain their
voting bloc at status quo.
Right. And I want to be clear on what I'm saying here, the motive
is to maintain rulership Yes. So we have to do these things to
maintain it. It's not like it's a racial cabal of like, you're
saying that all spectrums of economic background, now there's
like, oh, we might have some friendly fire some calories a
white men fall to a family court. But so be it. I think
that's how they elite think that's just my personal opinion.
Um, well, I guess
the only reason I'm saying is I know plenty of white families
and white guys who have been in similar situations poverty was
really was really the issue. That's why I'm like, Okay, why
would someone if you're just saying, okay, here are the
blocks, here's black people, these poor black people, these
poor white people, here's women, here's men, and from an elite
standard up at the top, I'm looking at you, George Soros, I
would want to control all those people one way or the other, no
matter what it takes.
And, you know, I got a funny and and this, this is just my
personal viewpoint and opinion, this is this is a opinion. I
think that elite Likud poor white people who say, Hey, you
had all the benefits and you can't make it work. You don't
deserve it. You don't deserve to live. And we've seen this how
they look, the eugenics eugenics wasn't across color lines. No,
it was. So like I said it you may have some casualties of of
the same race. But I think that they look at as as a wheeling,
or, you know, as a no way to get rid of the bottom in their own
race, and that we got it kind of getting off topic, but I just
want to show you that. When people they use that word so
loosely that now it just has no effect. But those two gentlemen
having that conversation, the clip we played before, even
though it's in a fictional movie, that is a form of
supremacy.
No, that was 100% supremacy, and says oh, yes, and I will. It
will usually throw in the white supremacy threw me off a little
bit and Um, because I know I know I know I know but I and I
understand what you're saying and it has only been about 50
years since eugenics was alive and well and and recognized as
such and was specifically targeted at Africans that's the
that's even how they spoke about it the dumb Africans running
around we got to control them so to think that that legacy went
away and 50 years would be stupid so yeah
not only Africans because poor whites in the South were judged
by the saints I mean, they said the
I'm just talking about what a rabbit Mark
Well saying they said the IQ to say this is the line Yeah. Under
it, you know, we'll set the testing methods and if for some
odd people, you know, it's for the greater good and like I
said, I don't want to segue off into that but I'm just telling
you to me if you want to use that word that's the the terms
not in the terms that we think of in pop culture.
If you want to talk about white supremacy that's your that's
your shining example.
Yes, that's that's the point I was making that out. This is one
of the cases where words have changed definitions like racist
or
yeah, that almost means nothing anymore. Yeah, it's it's
want to make sure that this is this will be the picture and the
definition if you want to define something that way, but let's
just get let's get back on track and see this privilege and an
action in joint custody gone wrong. This is a little bit of
long clip but it's important no hate
each other's guts.
It's all nice lovey dovey on everybody else
either you
saying anything negative about your borrow or your little trip
to the dark Cafe breakfast table and there is no shade last week
that you have withheld that little warning no don't even
look
to the dark admin branch today day
you say wonderful work that never she's got a technical
writer Madison's we get them set up this whole year to catch the
Deadpool letter Matt not gonna show you guys okay, better at
random back when I told you I never thought
he will say he got way out.
You're gonna retire Yogi MetroTech from lucky and if
you're ready to purchase packages about child joint
custody
This is a screen once you guys are doing. Yeah, that was hard
to listen to. Like,
I want to, I want to set that up a little better. So just to give
people what was going on there. You have to a wife and a husband
going through a joint custody hearing. And this is in my
hometown of Durham, North Carolina. It was funny though, I
thought was cloud white. Wow. And you see, she had no respect
for the judge. And he told her if you have any content and just
to give a little background, he was like you gotta know if any
of you guys say anything, you know, I'm gonna find that you
can see him you're gonna do 24 hours and you're saying in jail.
And the gentleman's like the lawyer for the guy said yes. And
he said yes. And then by the females lawyer said, No, tell
her say yes. And she was lying. But yeah. And soon as you know,
she was losing control of the the apparatus that was set up
for her to have the power and control over the family and the
man. You saw her go apeshit excuse language. Yep. Even
though she was gonna go to jail and Sony that just said joint
custody. Yeah, she went on when she lost it. Yeah.
So you It was a privilege possessives thing.
It is a privilege. Yep, it's a privilege, and nine times out of
10. The ruins come out in their favor. But I think judges are
getting more aware. And also the child support system is becoming
more aware because our recalculations are being done.
So let's get into changes to the Illinois child support,
child support will be based upon a percentage of that parents net
income. And depending upon how many children support was being
paid for, the percentage would go up, for example, it would be
20% of that parents net income for one child 28% for two
children 32% For three children 40% For for children and on up.
And it did not take into consideration the income that
the custodial parent made. Illinois was in the minority.
And I have not checked to see for sure how many states have
gone to income share, but I think 40 of the 50 somewhere in
that area use an income share model, which is what Illinois
now is using since July 1 of this year. under that system,
child support is calculated. Looking at the income the net
income of both parents, and there's a chart that is used to
determine what a child should receive by way of support from
parent a making X number of dollars and parent be making X
number of dollars and then you determine what that joint
support obligation should be. And then that obligation is
divided between the parents based upon their relative
income. So if you've got a parent that makes 40% of their
total net income, and the other parent making 60% of their total
net income, that support obligation would be paid by 40%
by one parent 60% by the other. And it is felt to be fair,
because it's based upon both parents incomes as opposed to
just the non custodial parents.
So it's a head scratcher that that wasn't already the case.
And also later in the clip, how much the child spends with each
parent factors into it as well. But that was just wasn't Klippel
clippable. To include that you were saying? little caveat. So
now you see when you have joint custody means equal
burden, equal
equal burden. So there's no monetary benefit. You have no
control of a child timewise. And we've seen this in my community,
the black community, that child support has been used as a
weapon against the black man. Yeah. So this is a popular
YouTuber, Dominica, Marie, and she discusses that point. Look,
child support should not be used as a weapon. Child support is
exactly that money that is utilized to support the child,
not money that is held over somebody's head, that doesn't
want to be with you anymore. Not money that is used to hold
somebody hostage in a dead end relationship, not money that is
being taken away from somebody that is already financially and
physically contributing to their child's life. So please, can we
grow the hell up and stop using our children as pawns and child
support as some sort of insurance policy, scare tactic
and financial weapon?
If I may, from personal experience, when I got divorced,
our daughter was 18 but she was still living at home. The system
that jumped into play with my ex wife was immediately he's going
to pay for everything we're going to clean him out. Hmm. And
all of that was through and it was the lawyer lawyers were all
over that pushing, pushing, and actually made the whole process
much worse than it ever had to be.
That's case in point. But as she said, when you have a scorned
woman, and she's been with us she's made aware of what our
rights and privileges are.
Or she has she has perceived what her rights and privileges
are.
Right? She can use it as leverage against the man. Yes,
they use the child as leverage against the man and we seen that
in recent news story with a powerful a basketball player
named DeMarcus Cousins. Now, he makes more than enough money. So
money is not an issue to him to pay child support. But
visitation is also a part of this and the child being
withheld. So let's look at our former warrior centered DeMarcus
Cousins,
former Deathstar. Demarcus Cousins and a bit of hot water
tonight.
That's why he's accused of threatening to shoot the mother
of his child.
Our Elizabeth cook in the newsroom. She has the latest for
us, Liz. Yeah, can Veronica The NBA is investigating these
allegations against against DeMarcus Cousins the all star
Lakers center is accused of threatening his ex girlfriend
during an argument about whether his son should attend his
wedding. And the ex girlfriend says she has the audio to prove
it. Because no, he's not coming.
No cousins allegedly made the threats over the phone on
Friday, one day before his wedding. Now according to court
documents obtained by ESPN, because his ex girlfriend is
seeking a restraining order against him. In addition to the
threats made in the leaked audio, she alleges that cousins
had previously choked her.
So I'm not defending DeMarcus Cousins or his actions or
anything. I'm trying to use this as an educational point here.
Now background on DeMarcus Cousins. He has had to dramatic
injuries back to back years. That has been impacted his
earning capability. He was set aside and some god ungodly
amount of money maybe 150 to $200 million contract, right.
But before he signs it, he blows out his Achilles. Yeah, he
fights through that. He comes back the next year he signs a
small little small deal. Then he blows out his ACL. Just to put
you in the mental state of what a person is going through,
right. So then he has he wants his son to come to his wedding
of another woman that he's marrying. And the mother says
now he can't come. Just giving background because when you hear
these stories, you don't get their perspective. Just to give
some further black background, not only to DeMarcus Cousins
take care his child he's a very giving person to other children
as well.
New at nine tonight 100 local children got the shop till they
dropped in mobiele tonight, and it's all thanks to NBA star
DeMarcus Cousins. He put on his seventh annual Santa cause
holiday shopping spree. styler finger does live in the newsroom
tonight with Tyler great fantastic day for the children
who enjoyed
it yes, the these kids from five mobile elementary schools were
given 200 bucks and Target gift cards so they could shop for the
holidays. The ones we talked with say they got a lot of good
gifts.
So I'm just illustrating you gotta got going through a life
changing traumatic experiences. monetary loss. He has a
background of being not only giving to his child but other
children seven years running. He's done this donation thing,
right? Yep. But he's want his mother whose child is
withholding his child from coming to the wedding but he's
about to marry another woman. Yeah, that's
it's what? It's what happens in divorces across the board
children are weaponized in this. And the
reason why I'm bringing this up is not defense DeMarcus Cousins,
but I am highlighting how the family court system is setting
women up to be harmed by men that are put through such mental
anguish that they can lose that they can lose the you you can go
search on YouTube Google man shoots woman after custody
hearing man shoot, you know, you see it over and over again. But
it's like the prescription drug thing. It's like Oh, just a
crazy man that shot his girlfriend or ex wife for
mother's child. They never get to the root root cause of what
it is. And I'm saying this to say this to protect women.
You're giving them a perceived privilege or leveraging to over
men which is very dangerous to do that's very dangerous to a
man especially a man that loves his kids. If you're saying you
know you never see your kid again. You don't know what that
does to a man's mental state and mental health and his country as
we see him end up and violent acts over and over again but we
never look at the trigger and see how we can resolve the
trigger for even happening. That's why I put brought this up
not to be a defensive anybody because First of all, you should
always maintain your cool and I say to men and second of all we
in this, you have to expect this, like you said, going
through a divorce, you gotta expect these things to happen.
So never lose your cool, control what you can control. Now fast
forwarding to you. Now you may have asked, How did this
situation of single parenthood in the black community happen?
We've looked at one side of it from being pushed down through
no man in the house. But there's also a marriage between feminism
and civil rights movement.
Feminism, when when feminism arose in the 1960s, it was
different for women of every kind, because women never
thought of themselves. These white women, as a particularly
disadvantaged group, as far as black women were concerned, the
overlap between the women's movement and the Africa and the,
and the civil rights movement caused some confusion. Black
people were trying to get their arms around what it meant to
bring change in this country. And here come a large group, a
much larger group, who are not necessarily black, in fact,
we're White, who are trying to do the same thing. And it really
took some leadership on the part of some black women and they
ought to be understood, who understood they were both black
and women, it took that kind of leadership to to engage this
community, this confusion to understand this confusion, but
to deal with this confusion within the community, you know,
when when a straight out civil rights activist, leader of the
women's movement like Gloria Steinem, this gorgeous white
woman, you know, comes forward and talks about feminism. She is
She is still the very best, but it is very hard for black women
to identify with her initially.
I have to disclaim here I've met Eleanor Holmes, the non voting
representative from the District of Columbia. I've observed her I
find her to be an incredibly dishonest followship person, but
that has no bearing on what she said here. But I'm no fan of
Eleanor Holmes.
So yes, that's our representative Eleanor Holmes
Norton, as she's speaking on how the civil rights movement was
hijacked. Basically, and you heard her used by the feminist
movement, and you heard her use the word confusion, confusion,
and that was steered by one and only Gloria Steinem. Adam, what
can you tell us about Gloria Steinem
first of all my mom loved her which is coming up right now is
is doing all kinds of stuff in my brain
as as the My Mom Yeah. As the mama reason why I say that Mama
and we I came from a very weird background not interrupt you but
just the cosine what you're saying. My mom was a bra
burning. Now, feminists of that time she she fell into the arm
propaganda that was being put forward but continue with your
point.
Well, I'm just trying to think back because you know, when I
think of Stein and I think of you know, Jane Fonda I was
pretty young. But I just remember I mean, I've she
doesn't I'm not getting much trying to recall other than my
mom was totally into her. I could feel the tension around
that. But no, I don't have much I of course, no, she who she who
she is what she represented, but I don't have some issues.
She was a big time proponent for fifth feminism at the time, of
course. And also, she empowered Alice Walker. For the people
that know who don't know who Alice Walker is. She's most
famous for writing the book The Color
Purple. Oh, of course. Of course. Of course.
Her writing is activism and her activism is writing so it's
there's really as as as it's not possible to separate Alice from
her work. She's of anybody I can know I've ever known I could
possibly imagine she's the most true you know, she I mean, when
people used to ask me in the early days, what is Alice Walker
really like I always said, She's exactly like you think, you know
there is not a private self and a Public
Self. Now, the reason why I say my mom loved Gloria Steinem is
because Alice Walker gave her her cosign to the black
community. Or you hit Get looking at another way, Gloria
Steinem and power Alice Walker to be coming to personally she
was on the level that she was into N O. N, in the public eye.
So as I said before Alice Walker she's most famous for writing
Color Purple. When I first saw Color Purple as a young you
know, child, I mean, to be honest with you, that movie was
shown to young children, because it was one of the preeminent
Black movies of Jesus from the storytelling and it was done by
Steven Spielberg. And you know, you had never seen a black movie
done on that level. I think it was really cutting edge at that
time. We just watched this cinematography and know just
what it was. I was great movie of course. But when I go back
and watch it with my adult eyes, it was very man hating and I
know that term is thrown around by the MiG tau community and
these things not anti feminist community. But the reason why I
say that is there is not a single positive black male
figure in that movie right at all. Either they were childhood
abusers pedophiles all the top 10 Yeah. Domestic violence,
rape. Kidnappers I mean, my exact call. Yeah. So like I
said, and when I watched this movie now with my adult eyes,
I'm like Jesus Christ. Is trauma based.
Yeah. Entertainment, entertainment. Yeah.
I'm talking about women watch this thing all repeatedly. I
mean, you know, even to today, you know, they I mean, you can
quote that thing. In my community, you can quote it line
for line. And that's how successful propaganda is. Now
with that says, Alice Walker. Hard. Her daughter came out and
did an interview and Daily Mail. And just a couple of quotes from
the interview. She said, You see, my mom taught me that
children and slave women. I grew up believing that children are
millstone around your neck. And the idea that motherhood can
make you blissfully happy is is a complete fairy tale. No choice
drives, this is how this woman propagandize her own child. Wow,
another quote, my mother's feminine feminist principle
colored every aspect of my life. As a little girl, I wasn't even
allowed to play with dolls or stuffed toys in case they
brought out i maternal instinct. Wow. These are quotes from
Alice's Walker's daughter. And like you said, and when you if
you go back to that clip, Gloria Steinem said, well, there was
only one Alice Walker. So she, however she was in the media.
She was in private. She was that way in private. Another quote
from her daughter. It was drummed into me that being a
mother raising children and running a home were a form of
slavery. Can you see how this was played out in her work per
color? Purple? Oh, yeah. That was given to the world and
propagandize my community. I'm saying and still, it still comes
on BT women BT l almost every other Saturday. final quote,
well, my mother may ask me, my mother may be revered by women
around the world. Goodness knows. Many even have shrines to
her by honestly believe it's time to puncture the myth and to
reveal what life was really like growing up as a child of the
Feminist Revolution
really puts a whole new puts Oprah in a whole new light in in
his projects, who has no children.
Right. So now we see how these things keep getting pushed
forward. And if you ask any black feminist about Alice
Walker, she would have the same way that Gandhi you know, it
doesn't matter. Right, like we've talked about before these
icons, it's not about what they who they truly were, how many
this is her daughter saying this, this is not some, you
know, as well. I always like to use quotes of people that are
our will be seen as fair and balanced. I don't like to use
extremists quotes from one side or the other. But now back to
Gloria Steinem and Gloria Steinem had a very interesting
beginning clip 24 Gloria at
the festival, you worked for the independent research service.
Well,
exactly when did your own association with the CIA
starred? In what fashion they come to you to do that? In 1958,
when I came home from from India, I discussed with student
leaders past and present, many of them active with the National
Student Association, this kind of small foundation to encourage
Americans to go, they thought it was a good idea to I was then
told by foundations and professors and friends, that it
that I should not do this, that I would get in trouble with
house on American Activities Committee, the American Legion,
all of those 50s people. And I became convinced that it was
impossible. It was at that point that the student leaders said to
me that they had in the past received funds for international
programs from the CIA, and that they felt that this was
important and could also be partly funded by the CIA.
And there we go, Hello, spooks.
Now, now we know about Cohen's work on COINTELPRO. We've seen
how think tanks in government agencies had infiltrated
movements as before, why would I not believe Gloria Steinem was
sent in to destabilize the movement that was going on
called the civil rights movement? Well, why would I not
believe that? Now I can say I have a conspiratorial vein in
me. But when I hear this, and you hear Alice Walker, and you
hear how she was put up and propped up wild, I would not
believe this. But let's listen to clip to
particular points of view to put forward which would have been
much, much more restricting than then the CIA funds were which
were free. I mean, no one was told what to say.
I mean, they were free. You mean to say it was easier for you to
work for the CIA than a private?
That's right. That's right. And and the reason I think that
comes as a surprise, if it did to me at the time, I mean, I had
the conventional liberals view of the CIA as a right wing
incendiary group. And I was amazed to discover that this was
far from the case that they were enlightened, liberal,
nonpartisan, activists of the sort who characterized the
Kennedy administration, for instance.
I didn't know this, actually, this is good.
So I don't know what to say. I mean, to be honest with you,
we have to look at to see was this person sent to bring this
message to destabilize not only the black community, I've always
said on the show, the black community are just the first to
feel Arts is show the symptoms, what affects the greater
population later, you know, we don't have that cushion, right.
So when you see things like drug epidemics, or, you know,
propaganda being pushed forward, it always hits us first.
Whenever recessions happen, they always hit us first. But we
don't have that, you know, the cushion to protect us. But it
goes on to impact everybody. There's not tied in with the
elite.
Now, the only problem I have with this, and it's only lightly
touched on in her on her Wikipedia page, for good reason,
probably is the CIA is really not allowed to do these types of
things on US soil. You know, that's really not their
jurisdiction. So I'm just curious to know, and I'll have
to look into this more to see you.
Go ahead. When I say these things, it's just like, I think
you make connections with people with the movers and shakers. I'm
not saying it came from headquarters.
No, please. I understand. There's a lot of different
women. Oh, certain pools. Yeah. Oh, yeah. GLORIA Yeah. Go over
here and talk to this person. Now. Do this. kinda thing. I'm
not saying headquarters sit down like a memo, say Yo, we will not
take we got to take them down. I think it doesn't work that way.
Because the paper trail you don't want to work that way and
to say certain groups are all we always say the LI are a a group
of many different small factions held together by common
ideology. So I just want to make that clear. So now we see where
how we got to black women being feminist mind. I think it was an
agenda push down from think tanks more, you know.
Well, also we see we see the the foundation of this is like a
huge slab of cement now that you've you've you've brought
Alice Walker into it's like, oh, okay, whoa, no, now we see a
little broader in perspective.
Right? She's the voice she was the voice in it, or the you
know, the author or how you want to do it. And like I said, Color
Purple was the was the greatest piece of propaganda, maybe in
acting on black on Manchester.
When you saw this for the first time, or maybe the second or
third time, and more recently, what was your feeling? What was
your immediate reaction to seeing this movie?
What caught up? I loved it. Loved it. I mean, you can go to
any where large group of black people are in, say, a line and
someone can finish the line for you. That's how openly accepted
it was for I mean, it's just that when you start digging back
layers, and understanding who these people are, who writes
these things, and what their agendas are, I saw in a total
different light. Now might man there's not a single positive
man in the movie, right? Not a single one. So um, Ding ding
ding, ding, ding. Right. So fast forward. Now we come back from
the past back to the present. And we have to see is not only
single mothers that are miserable, but all mothers.
About a year ago, as I was finishing my research on
motherhood, I came across the feminine mystique, written by
Betty for Dan in 1963. The title of the first chapter is the
problem that has no name. As I read through the pages, I felt
my heart bursting. I thought to myself, every mom needs to know
what's in these pages. It helps give meaning to where moms were
back then. And where we still are today. Betty for Dan was
able to interview these mothers who shared with her that they
felt unfulfilled, alone, and ashamed to admit that they felt
lost in the midst of motherhood. She called this the problem that
has no name. The spread into suburbia with its green lawns
and large corner lots was isolating for moms. Their
worries over smallpox and polio, were replaced by depression and
alcoholism. Drug remedies, such as mother's little helper,
promised relief from boredom, unhappiness and anxiety. Sure,
we've come a long way since the 1950s. But the feeling of
loneliness and lack of fulfillment is still the same
today.
So this is Cheryl Ziggler. And she's at a TED Talks. And she
show you motherhood and itself. Bring brings on a form of
misery, loneliness, and imagine experience and Cheryl Ziggler is
a happily married woman and she she seems to be well off. So she
doesn't have the you know, the ills of financial problems. I
wouldn't abuse Brad perception. And she's dealing with these
things herself. So imagine going through that as a single mother.
Well, this is societal.
So imagine doing that by yourself. I mean, you have to
you have to be the breadwinner. And like I said, this is where I
know I'll take it for the moms. You know, imagine these things
that you experience having a husband you know, and having
money. Imagine going through that by yourself, and it's the
monies issue and you're the sole breadwinner, but let's listen to
clip 250 years
later, the problem that has no name is still with US, it shows
itself differently. But it's still the same problem. Today,
we have the rabbit hole of social media that shows what all
the other mommies are doing better than us. If we're working
mom, we feel guilty. And if we're a stay at home mom, we
feel judged. We second guess and stress over all the parenting
decisions that we make. And all too often, we feel like failures
and frauds.
Wow. Now imagine that being compounded by being a single
mother. Right? If you stay at home, you're what'd she say? If
you go to work, you feel guilty? And if you stay at home, feel
feel judged and who's judging? Is not men that are standing
around now?
It's other women? Of course, it's
our or, you know, and then she said about social media. Who's
doing this job? Oh, look her Browning's. You're saying you
don't make her I never. I've never heard a guy say that to
his wife. Oh, look at her brownies on her Instagram. Why
don't you make brownies like that? You know, this is this is
very sick, that they set these criteria. And where I'm coming
from is now this is gonna be a very hot take. I am not first
stay at home moms. But I am for a stay at home parent. I think
it leaves when parents should be at home.
Very, very unpopular stance in popular culture, very unpopular.
But I didn't put it on a certain gender who needs to stay at
home? No problem. The problem, what happened is when you opened
up 50% of the population into the workforce that made the
worker less valuable. Say that again. When you opened up 50% of
the population into the workforce that made the
workforce more worker more or less valuable? Oh, nobody looks
at it from an angle.
Right. And I, I would be remiss not to say that. Single parent,
dads also have issues. They're different. And in fact, maybe in
some cases, a single parent dad is viewed as heroic. Oh, my God,
look at how great he is. And it will always be judged to the
positive.
Right. Let me flesh out what I'm saying. Because I know a lot of
people who got whiplash and what he's what he's talking about,
what I'm saying is, workers should be paid enough where a
single income can run a household.
Oh, well, that would be nice. Yes, it's seems very difficult.
But if you look at the numbers from the time where women gain
the right to work, what has happened to the income?
Oh, it's, it's the same as 30 years ago.
Right. So all they did was take the same salary and split it
between two people. That's right. So that's what I'm
saying. Now, if the dad wants to stay at home, the mom wants to
go to work. Or if you want to be a single parent, you can make
enough to run your household by yourself. So that this is where
I'm coming to in this whole thing is this didn't benefit
women going to work didn't benefit the family then
benefiting the woman it benefited the people who made
decisions on the highest level. You increased your work
population by double. So do you get paid them half? So if you
don't agree with me, Jessica short, tall. She says how
Americans how America feels new parents
just put the term working mother into any Google image search
engine, stock photo site, they're all over the internet.
They're typing blog posts and news pieces. And I've become
kind of obsessed with them. And the lie that they tell us and
the comfort that they give us that when it comes to new
working motherhood in America, everything's fine. But it's not
fine. As a country, we are sending millions of women back
to work every year, incredibly and kind of horrifically soon
after they give birth. That's a moral problem. But today, I'm
also going to tell you why it's an economic problem.
Okay, well, yeah, there's there's a lot going on with the
with young parents today. The main thing is they're having
dogs instead of children.
Do you blame them? No.
And then I've gone through this program. I'm starting to think
no Oh, no, I can see the issues. I mean, I'm a little jaded and
older. That's why it's good to look at this.
And I, you know, I like to look at why, why are people accepting
the fact that I rather have a dog than a baby? And the thing
is, you have this, and I'm speaking in generalities here,
folks, so don't don't kill me. I think at certain point, humans
have a need to give a certain kind of love to something.
Something need to fill that gap. I mean, we talked about the gap
where the father missing, I think there also a gap in a
family where children are needed. Absolutely. And, and
what is being stuffed in that gap for baby dogs, that people?
Right. So it's like, everybody's agreed, right? Yeah, this is my
child. And okay, that's my child, too, because they don't
want to be honest and say, we have a gap here. But society
makes it so that we need both for our salaries to pay rent.
No, it has to I mean, the number one complaint is cost. They
can't afford a child, which, you know, I always put my caveats.
Like, you know, a lot of very poor people have children and
they get by but you know, it's so it's, in a way, it feels a
bit elitist when someone says that they're their own poor
personal choice, of course. But I think the financial struggle
is absent when you talk. You're right, when you're looking at
what it costs, what cost of living is, and you really need
both people in both partners in the household working for the
general masses. Yeah, it's, of course, it's much harder to
think about starting a family.
And if we look at the listen to the previous clips, everybody
wants the lifestyle of what the house, the picket fence, two
cars a trip to Orlando. Yes, sir. So and then you factor in
social media like Sheryl Ziglar says, and if you're not meeting
that standard, you feel like a failure. Yeah, see? Well, I
don't think our people our age are impacted by social media
like that. But new families and people in that range. They
succumb to, to the pressures. They feel like failures, because
they can't have it all. They can't have the vacations, they
can't have the house. They can't have the two cars and the baby.
So it's like, ah, yeah, which one? Can we replace? The baby?
Yeah. Wow. So, um, but Bernie Sanders has a solution.
Good evening. Human population growth has more than doubled in
the past 50 years, the planet cannot sustain this growth, I
realized this is a poisonous topic for politicians. But it's
crucial to face empowering women, and educating everyone on
the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable
campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss
this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address
climate catastrophe?
The answer is yes. And the answer has everything to do with
the fact that women in the United States of America, by the
way, have a right to control their own bodies.
And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to
those organizations around the world, that are that allow women
to have abortions, or even get involved in birth control, to me
is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries
around the world, where women do not necessarily want to have
large numbers of babies, and where they can have the
opportunity through birth control to control the number of
kids they have something I very, very strongly support.
Now, that's your white privilege right there. That's the white
privilege guy. I'm putting it all on Bernie.
That's the other side of the conversation. That will be the
other guy and go back to the conversation between the two
gentlemen. That's the other solution. Don't have babies.
depopulation Yeah. So I know I got out of order but I wanted to
set that clip up to set the final two clips. So they say
this is this is what's sick about it. They put all the
pressure not on corporations to provide you know, meaningful
salaries to people or you know, or create a social you know, a
safety net, you know, to help not even a safety net but
certain standards or corporations or whatever to pay
people a meaningful salary. The reason why I say that is we all
heard the stories yet dad was the only one working he could
afford, you know, to pay for the kids to go to college, you know,
saying have a retirement pension, and you know, as to go
on vacation. Where's that at now? Oh, no,
what you're getting at I think is population control, ie
normalization of abortion. Let's call it choice is being abused
by elites to make sure we keep our worker pool cheap and
readily available.
Yep, that's the whole point. And it's the same mean but just from
two sides of the coin. And it's that conversation between two
Hobnob errs to say, hey, I have a solution. You know, let's just
make it rustle rough on him. You know that they'll be begging
y'all for depopulation. So that's where we're at. So scared
to wrap this up, hi, American, how America fails parents to
this working mother, all working mothers and all of their babies
are fine. There's nothing to see here. And anyway, women have
made a choice. So none of it's even our problem. I want to
break this choice thing down into two parts. The first choice
says that women have chosen to work. So that's not true. Today
in America, women make up 47% of the workforce. And in 40% of
American households, a woman is the sole or primary breadwinner
are paid work is a part a huge part of the engine of this
economy. And it is essential for the engines of our families. On
a national level, our paid work is not optional.
Yeah. So here we are, on one hand depopulation, on the other
hand, are you choose to have a child so suffer? That's a hell
of a choice to give a woman? Yes. And once again, I go back
to compound that with doing it by yourself.
Yeah, and we don't make it much easier by positioning the
American and I'm saying this is all about America, because
that's really the only the only thing we think we can speak to
intelligently. And then add to that, that oh, by the way, that
guy, he's, he's worthless. Just look at him look on television.
He's dumb. He's a goof. He's a goofball. He ain't really going
to help you.
Yeah. So um, if I bring all these points up to say, we're in
a sick place.
Well, the way I read it, the only way we get out of it is
actually with the help of women. Women are going to have to
realize what's going on. They are without a doubt, what you've
shown here today is a lot of manipulation and control. And
although you hear the truth and the real feelings coming
through, at the at the upper conscious level, it's gone. It's
just like, Okay, this is what I got to do. Here's these. And
you're right, social media advertising plays right into all
of that.
Hmm. And the other thing is that we haven't discussed is, when
you split a home up, you create twice the need, yeah, to
electricity bills, to gas bills to rent or mortgages to
everything. So it's a sick, it's a sick, sick place we're at. But
this final clip. Now, Bernie Sanders and the lady said that
we need to control populations. But Miss Jessica shorthaul
disagree. She said, we need the population to survive. Let's
listen to what she says.
Choice number two says that women are choosing to have
babies. So women alone should bear the consequences of those
choices. You know, that's one of those things that when you hear
it in passing can sound correct. I mean, I didn't make you have a
baby. I certainly wasn't there when that happened. But that
stance ignores the fundamental truth, which is that our
procreation on a national scale is not optional. The babies that
women many of them working women are having today. will one day
fill our workforce, protect our shores, make up our tax base.
Our procreation on a national scale is not optional. That's
correct.
But depopulation is the answer somebody's lying. You can't have
it both ways. And I believe to believe Jessica more than Eileen
to believe Bernie Sanders is a depopulation crowd. We need
people
well, of course, throughout this entire what almost two hours,
I've, what's planned parenthood is just running through my
brain, you know, where do they fit in? And we haven't really
brought it up. We don't have to necessarily, but but the thank
you for doing this because the conversation, the conversation
that the nation has Having is about and you know, of course
with Cavanaugh and all this and Trump in general, it's all Roe
v. Wade. And it's all about choice choice choice, but you
never hear the conversation that goes deeper. And that looks at
what the real effects are, are the real necessities or the real
need? And why is your choice talking to women? Why is your
choice so incredibly important to be looked at from multiple
angles instead of just here's what I want? Here's what I don't
want right down to what Jessica short all said there with and of
course, if we're not making 2.3 average children per couple,
eventually you have no country left. That is of course what
happens and we could go on for another hour about what
immigration and certainly illegal immigration does to the
equation, etc, etc. It's thanks Mo. I don't think I can sleep
tonight now.
That's my aim.
Well, a good job, my friend. I'm looking forward to where we're
gonna go next week with all this.
I'll go with the stories take me Yeah, I
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