The facts with Adam curry for September 5 2020. This is
episode number 48. And there he is once again the man with the
golden voice. Mo facts Mo Mo how're you doing?
I'm doing good Adam, how about yourself?
Well, it's been a crazy two weeks. First of all, I'm glad
we're back together. We skipped an entire week you were down the
rabbit hole, which we'll get to in a moment. But I think Monday
or Tuesday, my interview with Joe Rogan comes out. And either
I'm gonna sound like the biggest nut job in the world. Or maybe
maybe I got to spit some more facts. We'll find out. There was
a lot of substances involved. But yeah, it was. It was a lot
of fun.
I can't wait to hear I'm waiting like everybody else for it to
drop.
I can give you I can tell you what's one thing that did happen
is I'm like well, you know me and my buddy Momo facts. You
know, we're in he says, Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a
minute. Your friend's name is really that I said? Yeah. Mo,
which is Mo what I said mo Maurice Mo. Mo fax. That's his
name. I said, this m o efactz.com. Plug life, live in
the big plug life. So we'll see. And based on I think our
producers who support this show, who of course, since we've been
gone for two weeks will be thanking them in two different
segments, because that's the support has been phenomenal. I
got a DM this morning from Hotep. Jesus. And he says, yeah,
he said, You need to come on the show. Can you can you come I
think September 25. And I said, Oh, yeah, sure. And I sent him a
link to mo fox.com says, oh, yeah, he says, What did you say?
I don't want to misquote him. But I think was something like
dope. I've heard good things about it. So he said he was
gonna listen
about that. Interesting. Yeah, very interesting. Yeah. So great
Twitter for you, man. Great.
Very Gray, very, very gray. One more thing before we get started
with the with the stuff for today. No one gender meetups.com
is where producers of the no agenda show organized meeting up
together. And they're starting to combine meetups because
there's such a heavy crossover between the no agenda tribe and
the MO facts tribe. In so many different aspects. And
apparently there was the second mo agenda meet up. And I believe
this is from Michigan.
Hey, Adam and Mo. We got a dozen people here in Michigan
celebrating our second mo facts meet up after the Chick fil A
one in February. Tonight was Popeyes. We love them both. And
we just wanted to remind everybody that the truth is that
it's nice man. Well, I guess you can organize a mo facts or mo
agenda meetup. No agenda meetups.com. Very cool. Thank
you so much, guys. All right. Well, what are we doing? What
else we have here?
Well, wait a minute. I have a couple of things on my list. I
gotta get out there before we get into it. Okay. And it's
cause for celebration. Oh, well. Brett
what are we doing? What are we doing? Well, I'm blowing the
horns what's going on?
Happy birthday to two of my favorite people. One being you
just celebrated a birthday. Yes,
I did September
and the other one is to only fan uncle Richard. Birthday on the
floor.
Another fine Virgo man like myself very nice. Alright, Uncle
Richard. Cool. Very cool. Oh, you know what that means? That
you know what this has started? Well, you start with this before
you know it. We've got a birthday list. It's the funniest
thing that we could we could
the best gift I could think to give uncle Richard I only fan is
for you to spin that wheel. Oh, right.
For uncle Richard. We are going to do the one thing that only
read the manners. It's the thing that we need to do every single
show because what is the topic for today? Nobody knows. But
when we hit that we'll have topics round and round and goes
we find out what we're going to talk about today. Maybe Moe
knows we'll find out the topic for Moe facts with Adam curry 48
is black on black crime? Okay, it's something like for today's
topic Nice. All
right. Okay, everybody take cover.
Deep breath, this will be this thing. Yeah.
This is why it took two weeks. Yeah, it literally took two
weeks. Ah, up until the last minute rearranging clips, take
clips out. Because you as you know, this is the third row, and
racial slash politics conversation.
And it's something that to be on? Well, I really of course, I
look forward to episodes like this because this is where I get
to learn an incredible amount. But just from a white American
perspective, I you know, what is often said is, you know, in as
it pertains to some news report, well, nobody talks about 50
people in Chicago, black on white crime, and how to do the
voice. Was that pretty good? And I've done it myself.
The exact statement is, what about Chicago?
What about black on black crime? Chicago?
Yeah. And yeah, of course. And can I ask you right off the bat,
just since that's what we do. When you hear someone say, How
would someone like me say that? Or what about Chicago? Does that
does that trigger anything? Do you think? Is it something that
comes up in your mind when you hear
it, it can come across as a cop out? Because you don't want to
talk about what the topic was on? Okay. And two, is a non
starter is that put that on the list of non starters. If you're
going to come at at the angle of counterbalancing, police
violence, and you know, police, probably police brutality
counterbalancing with black on black crime, the two things need
to be discussed in depth independently of each other.
They're both a problem, one being larger than the other. And
surprise, surprise it being black on black crime is the
bigger problem, by far, but yeah, but I will say this,
oftentimes, when it's brought up is brought up disingenuously and
to deflect from a conversation somebody really doesn't want to
have on the topic that's brought up. Well, the way that yeah, the
way the way that I might have used it in the past would be
it's interesting. You say that, yeah, in a way to deflect
homeless, I'm just trying to collect my thought. Now, that's
interesting, because it would probably be someone saying,
Well, you know, this, this, there's the Yeah, I think you're
right, it would be white cops killing blacks. And then it
would be well, there's only been nine this year. And then oh,
what about Chicago? Yeah, okay. It's a deflection because I
think that the, the, there's no willingness to actually discuss,
I think it's okay, here we go. From my perspective, because
there never seems to be a willingness to discuss the
actual numbers, just as a statistic because the claim from
white cops killing black men is disproportionate to black on
black. But that conversation you'll usually go through well,
they only represent this portion of the population. So it
shouldn't be that but they represent 80% I mean, it's all
these fucking Now me,
I promise that Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Go to the FBI crime
stats. So we're not gonna use any FBI crime stats, and you
asked me a question I want to answer when why here? What about
black on black crime? What about Chicago? Yeah, we know what the
facts law the MO facts law or rule that every racial
conversation eventually devolves to Chicago
it's like Hitler on on white forums. Everything in black
forums goes to Chicago. I gotcha.
Chicago, but when I hear that is the way I could hear it, but I'm
I dissect things myself personally, but the way I could
hear it is What's one more black dead black guy? Me? Doesn't, you
know, What's one more? So
I get it. I get like Chicago, and then what was it nine more?
Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. All right.
Let's good. So that's why we did it. This is what this is why we
have these conversations so we can demystify and really get to
the root of the problem. Yeah. And it's multiple problems with
this topic. But since we brought up the mecca of black on black
crime as the media will have it, let's get right to fighting to
stop Chicago's gang killings.
Chicago making international headlines this morning after a
violent and bloody Fourth of July. We're more
than 100 people were shot since Friday, 14 of them are datings
and violent crime have skyrocketed in Chicago for
decades, Chicago has struggled to shake off its reputation for
gun violence, while 2014 saw the murder rate fall to its low
Worst in more than 40 years, since then there's been a
worrying increase. In 2016 762 people were killed in a city the
most since 1996. On the campaign trail, Donald Trump repeatedly
lambasted the city, Chicago, what the
hell is going on in Chicago.
And in June, he announced a federal task force would be sent
to assist Chicago police. I've come to Chicago to spend time
with grassroots organizers who work in some of the city's most
dangerous neighborhoods, trying to stop the violence.
Okay, we are indeed at ground zero. So this
is Adam gabot, from The Guardian. And a couple of points
I want to make. His statement was in 2014, the murder rate had
fallen into his lowest level in 40 years. So we ought to put
these like, we had to put these things in perspective in Chicago
violence, a problem, of course, is a huge problem compared to
the 80s and 90s. Or even if you go back 40 years, not at all.
New York, Chicago, DC used to have, you know, almost doubled
the violence that they have now. Well, it's trending back up. But
we have to put these numbers into perspective.
Why do you think the shooting and the murder rate has gone up
over the past two years?
There's no structure. See, it used to be organizations will
few guys at the top. They called everything sanctioning or
whatever. But nowadays, you got cliques whose and they might all
know each other grew up together and everything. But now they
just you know, they just going with a warrant and trying to
make a name for itself. And communities they come up in and
they can't get no jobs to do. So they just wireless. You know,
Sam. Yeah.
So this is us for on the outreach outreach outreach
worker from ceasefire. He just speak into the really
decentralization of these gang structures. And that's what's
really causing the uptick that you're seeing now.
What do you what do you mean the decentralization? Can you
explain that?
Well, before it used to be like, militaristic, where you had no
commander in chief generals, lieutenants, that kind of thing,
and it was very organized, structured. Now it's more of
there is no rank. Oh, it's more I mean, their rank still there.
But it's, it's more like
a flat flat hierarchy now.
Or a feudal, feudal system, a system where you have, yeah,
well, you have these pockets of power. And before you had to
earn your way up now, it's like, I'm willing to take you out now.
1415 years old, I want my respect now. Which we had the
look at maybe this is a microcosm of the breakdown in
the home. And no leadership, no patriarchy in the homes, there
was no
one paid. Not even understanding of what of what a hierarchy or
patriarchy is anymore, perhaps. Right.
And it's dissolved in the streets. Yeah, you know, I mean,
the men are here because sad to say the, the male lead
structure, even in street gangs, is not there. And I'm gonna say
something now, I need to say it now. I am not anti organized
crime. Because I am not a I'm a person that, you know, it's not
naive. kromm is going to exist in a society and civilization. I
think when you have organized crime, and when it's done
properly, it keeps from it affecting this civilians. You
don't get random people shot on the street, you don't get
children scared to walk up and down the street. Because in
every in every society, and this, this goes back to the
black on black crime thing. In every society, there's crime. In
every society, there's organized crime, but you don't see dead
children of other ethnicities and their communities and on
their streets, like you do see in black and more, and probably
Brown as well, but not as distant as black. Okay, so I
just want to lay that
Yeah. So in this case, you referring specifically, to inner
city to black gangs, that being organized crime because we can't
be against organized crime, otherwise, all politicians would
have to go because that's the biggest criminal organization
there is. But I if I understand what you're saying, because the
lack of organized crime in these gangs is actually much worse
than it would have to be if it was if there was a leadership
structure and there was actually a leader that you could talk to
and we could have leaders are figuring stuff out You mean like
that?
Exactly. And I'm not even pro I'm not pro organized crime. I
know it's a necessary evil. Because crime vise alcohol not
not now, but even in you know, in early parts of America,
alcohol, gambling, prostitution, these things are realities. So
it's are you going to have structure to that reality or no,
because there's going to exist. Right. And I think what we're
seeing now in this modern day, quote unquote, black community
and black on black crime, is the lack the decentralization is
kind of like when you take out Osama bin Laden or host Saddam
Hussein. Now you have eight warlords. Yeah,
exactly. A vacuum is filled up how back on? Yeah, gotcha. Okay.
Clear.
That's what you're seeing now. So that's where we're at. So
next, we have Cory Brooks, and he's the executive director of
Project hood. Another organization is trying to help
out Chicago.
Well, people I spoke to really want is more funding for
community projects. But getting that money can be difficult.
Project hood is a nonprofit funded by donations. It gives
hands on training in professions like carpentry and business, to
young people who have been caught up in gang life and want
a way out. Trump has spoken about Chicago in pretty strong
terms, carnage in a city violence, like Does he have a
point when he talks about needing to send in the feds?
Absolutely not. The feds are not what we need. Job creation is
what we need. That's the reason why we're building this
facility. We don't want you to come and give us your government
paycheck or your government food stamps. No, we want to create
people that want jobs and help people get jobs. That's what
sustains people. And that's what creates family. And if we can
get a president to do that, I believe that the direction of
our communities change drastically.
So that was interesting, because I don't think he answered the
question. I understand his answer, of course, but the the
question was bringing more Feds which I think made more police
officers and the guy said, no, no, no, we need jobs and stuff
that Trump is giving us. I think that's what he was saying.
And and and Mr. Adam on Gab, it was very deceptive in the way he
conflate it. Two questions. One was the Trump's rhetoric
rhetoric, about you know, Carnage and violence. And though
things are nature and extreme, and then he conflates it with
his statement about bringing in the Fed. Exactly. So it's a very
tricky question, if you listen to how x it, um, well, it's
from the BBC. We know the Brits are racist moments and nothing,
of course,
and probably wants to
do a course on the last show.
But if you look at it, the question, of course, he agrees
that there's carnage on the streets and his violence or he
wouldn't be willing to get these projects. Right. Oh, but I do
agree bringing in affairs is not the right is not the right
solution to the problem, bringing in federal aid, federal
programs, job programs, or reinstating family, um, these
kinds of things what he was saying, but there is a county
commissioner name Richard Boykins that has another
solution for Cook County, far too
common in Chicago police investigating a shooting and
heavily armed United Nations peacekeepers operating in some
of the most dangerous corners of the earth. Now there's a push to
bring them here. Good evening. I'm Rob Johnson. And I'm Erica
Sargent. A Cook County commissioner wants to get the
peacekeepers to Chicago to battle our violence problem, but
it would be an unusual move. Consider this from a un
promotional video. Peacekeepers often operate in hostile
environments where others cannot or will not go. CBS two
political reporter Derek Blakely picks up our story.
They've helped stop the fighting in war torn hotspots across the
globe, from Syria to Sierra Leone. Now well Cook County
Commissioner is appealing for UN peacekeepers in Chicago's crime
ridden neighborhoods.
I know that there are those who say that this is an admission
that we can't protect the people in the city but quite frankly,
we haven't protected them.
But one West Side Alderman whose Ward is plagued by violence
rejects the military analogy.
This is not war. I mean, we may have some daunting statistics.
But again, military intervention is not the answer.
Alderman Ervin says it's an economic intervention, not a
military one that's needed to stop Chicago's violence.
Here's a
I remember this story and I remember laughing about it like
what the hell is this? But now actually, in context of what you
said at the beginning of the show. If the numbers were twice
as bad in the 70s 80s, and they came down On in the mid 80s 90s,
yeah. So they've come down and you know, by by by half, and now
they're they're trending up or that, of course, they're they're
never good. What did they do is my question, what were they
doing previously that seemed to be working? Was that is there
something that we can point to? It was something that if the
Giuliani tactics, well, that was pretty much Well, that was
Bratton that was the chief of police and he came in and
cracked heads as far as I know.
Right? Um, we're not going to say that. The crime bill didn't
clean up the streets, because of course, we got millions. Julio
Giuliani and Bratton was before the crime bill. That was no what
I'm
saying is that the the change from the rehabilitation because
even Biden's rhetoric started before the crown be right. It
was the really with that, I think it was, ah, what is this,
but I'm just saying Manhattan Manhattan had changed
significantly. By 1989 1990. It was it was already really
changed way before the
that was when a Democrat started saying we're past rehabilitate
Rockefeller, I believe it was, they said we're past
rehabilitation. The Democrats got really strong on crime that
started in their really early to mid 80s. And then it just worked
his way up to the crime bill, but the mentality was lock of
everybody and that's what the congressional congressional
black caucus was calling for. And honestly, that's what the
citizens were calling for was to clean up our streets. Now
cleaning up our streets that mean lock up everybody in the
neighborhood either. Bringing the UN peacekeepers, midwives,
UN peacekeepers is a little bit overblown.
And I'm glad you got to that point because if people really
back up here and take a step back and look what we're seeing
here, we're having this super predator narrative.
Re volatile yummy coming back.
It's coming right back. And it weren't I mean, looking at who
was running for office. I mean, to be honest,
that is a deja vu isn't it? Yeah. Thank you. So it gets it's
weird because I wanted to I texted you who wasn't in who
wasn't in the in the in the in the big article? Was it yummy?
Yo could remember little yummy, because I wanted to bring it up
on Joe to explain how the math models kind of like the climate
change, or God forbid the Coronavirus models had
miscalculated the the danger of the quote unquote, super
predator. But then it just it was taken for science what
science is is right, and then you know, we're still living
with the crap from today. Maybe he's trying to Yeah, maybe it's
just a redo. You know, they figured all that shit out. We
should do it again.
Yeah, and this is not only limited to Chicago, or more, I
will talk about black on black crime. This is a problem in any
pocket in America that has high, so called quote unquote black
populations, as we hear in black on black crime part 1.1.
Black on Black crime, you can find it in almost any major city
like Chicago, New York or LA but Chattanooga is nowhere near the
size. Nor has the population of those cities get violent crimes
by African Americans against each other in Chattanooga. It's
just as bad. In part one of his special report, Eric Coveney
takes a deep look into black on black crime and its effect on
the African American community. He joins us live in the studio
to explain
Eric Wallace journalist, it's our job to report what's
happening in our community. And unfortunately, we find ourselves
covering black on black violence almost every other day. Now,
before we begin, we you need to know that in this report you're
about we're about to show you. It is very raw and emotional
with language that some viewers may find offensive trigger
warning. crime scenes like this one play out almost every week
in Chattanooga. And the story is usually the same disagreement
between two black men or a group of African Americans that leads
to violence. Some of the victims live. Others die. No one knows
this better than Celeste woods. You see, nine years ago her
son's mom was shot to death in this East Chattanooga
neighborhood. She says she'll never forget that horrible
night. And the next thing I know I was getting a phone
call and say the mind has been shot. And could you calm. And
this is the area that I came here. And when that came that he
was voc was taped around and he was laying facedown in history.
To add insult to injury. Demand died on Martin Luther King Jr.
Day.
That day most
Americans celebrate a man who stood for non violence.
Right well before you deconstructed for us. What
station did this what outfit did this? This package w
d e f news 12 Chattanooga source for local news. as local quick
and quick to the point.
incredibly disgusting to me. The way they start off was saying,
okay, it seriously, this was a Mind Control thing in what you
would call trauma based entertainment as far as I'm
concerned, the music track that went from some recognizable
song. What song was that was the track I think I recognize it's
not like some crazy old track
No. Typical quote unquote gangster music.
Exactly. Exactly.
It doesn't matter. Yeah, it sounds
crazy. But yeah, and then we went into some mama comes in and
holy crap that was mind control. That's all I wanted to say. It
was that was quite disgusting.
Yeah, we had a sad course. I mean, cost record the everybody
knows that knows music and evoke emotion course.
If you were to say string, it wasn't no
sad black mama on TV.
It wasn't news, that's for sure. That was that was programming.
But if I said to you, Chattanooga, you wouldn't say to
me black on black crime?
I mean, so I say pardon my means? Is that the cat Machida
on your shoe? Yeah, that's what I'm sorry.
So this lets you know that it's widespread. Yeah. Even not as
they want to make it like it's this urban problem. No, it's
widespread. And that lets you know, wherever a shared
mentality, or what you want to call culture, is that we have
this saints this systemic problem. So with that said, we
can get into 1.2.
But shooting death of her son was the result of an earlier
altercation with this man, Alex Smith, whom police later
arrested and charged with murder. Current gang task force
coordinator, Boyd Patterson prosecuted Smith,
that particular case ended with a plea of guilty to manslaughter
and a sentencing hearing. Well, that's what happened. He could
have faced, it was between six and 10 years. But after the
sentencing hearing, he was given six years.
Authorities say much of the violence playing out is gang
related. According to a recent study, blacks make up 89% of the
gangs in Chattanooga, followed by white that 10 and a half
percent, and the number of gang related crimes rose from 127 in
2007 to 520 11.
I want to get some terms straight with you. What is the
difference between urban and inner city? Is there a
difference? Because what in the Chattanooga is that the
Chattanooga inner city? Urban means black?
Whenever you hear urban, that's black. Inner City, which is
great geographical of this is the inner city right? Now they
can be used synonymously I mean, incorrectly, but when you hear
urban, that's targeted towards black people. Okay. So that
makes sense. It's just a geographical you say it's no,
you can say inner city. And that means it's downtown. Right. But,
but this is what's happening in Chattanooga. Is that happening
in the inner city?
I would guess so. I don't know how you can fly. Because when
they say urban, they mean black even though Chattanooga is not
urban. is right. Okay, so it's a tricky word. It's like oh, yeah,
over there. Over there with a black sorry, is synonymous with
ghetto. You really get
this word needs to be outlawed because it has too many stupid
meanings. I mean, it used to be a music style. It used to be
just a music sort. That's what it was urban baby. Well,
we'll slow down curry. No, no, no, God was slow down. We're
getting married. Sorry, man. I'm
sorry, man.
Listen, grasshopper is called Educate music. Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so you have this guy gets six years. Yeah, six years now I
can look at it one or two ways I can say least one black guy or
girl got to be out six years. I mean, other than was dead or I
can say wow, is a black life only work six years in jail.
Yeah, do you know that this is where this this is how this gets
tricky. But was this on the side of that's not what they said he
played with a plea deal on manslaughter. But I want to
raise my concern. I mean, raise our awareness our memory to you
remember, Botham, John and the female cop shot him. And she got
10 years. Everybody was all up in arms. Yeah. But this guy gets
six years for killing another black man not a peep out
anybody. And he was oh yeah, we got him six years. I mean, he
was bold enough to go on the news and say yeah, we get we
will let a guy off murder instead. was six years. And is
that now I had to be cynical. Is that because you want murderers
people to be making it back to the hood? while they're still in
their prom? They're killing prom?
Yeah, well, let's talk. Let's talk about it now. Well, again,
a very, very interesting perspective. You said, wow, is a
black life only worth six years? If I had heard that, while
please. I mean, because I know a little bit about legal sentence,
saying was a plea deal? Yeah, no. I of course, did. I did not
have that empathy. I did not think, wow, that did guy is only
worth six years, I thought, and maybe the way it worked out the
altercation. I don't know what happened. I don't know the gun
went off. I don't know. But I totally understand where you're
coming from. Of course,
that's about the rest about the running. That's about the that's
about the running average, about 10 years for black life. That
was that's what, that's what you know. People know, in the
streets. I know, I sound very counterfeit.
This is important. I know what you say. Now, this is important,
because that's what's known. They know, oh, it's just 10
years or if you're lucky, six years recycle, you're out is
that what is that where that's going?
Exactly. And if I'm running a white supremacist enterprise
here, those are the kinds of people I want back on the
streets.
Yes, I see the problem. So in this case, the system is
actually assists assisting this problem by perhaps even trying
to be compassionate. It's a mindfuck
as well, and that missing on the other side, say this guy got
life in prison, whether it goes to labs. It's like you can have
it either way you want it. Yeah, you can't. This is why this is
such a slippery thing to wrestle. Because when you're you
know, when you're throwing that ball, what about black on black
crime, because, and I tried to work this show that I watch and
I have mixed feelings about it called first 48 and Amy, and I
watch it often because it gives you a good cross section of
criminality, especially black on black crime then results in
murder, what the basically the top on the premise of the show
is the first 48 hours after homicide on the most critical
hours, right. And so they have a lot of inventory with black and
black men being killed. So of course, that's going to be the
majority of your cases. And it could go either way, you can
have these cases where one guy gets six years for killing a
black life or you could have one guy go rob another black guy,
when another black guy in the car, and they killed the one
black guy and and other two guys get life without parole. So just
because the second guy went with the, you know, this was tagging
alone.
Yes. But so this, this is where it gets confusing, and I'm just
gonna say it I'm sure I'm jumping the gun. But a big part
of today's movement is to is to have police reform and to get a
lot of people out of jail much quicker or not even go to jail
at all for certain crimes up to incredible levels. Again, that
seems like it's compassionate but from what you're telling me
it could have a completely adverse effect within the
criminal circuit. It's like oh, this is great. We just recycle
recycle recycle Thank you very much BLM.
Right and if your goal is to have more okay, we are a no
black ink and BLM business model piece off of black dead bodies
in the street Yes. You need to total number and then you need
the highlight cases that the media runs which by cops Yeah, I
want to say this one thing Notorious BIG had a song called
you're nobody till somebody kills you. When a black person
killed a black person that's it. Nobody killer nobody. In the
media's eyes it's only when you're killed by a white person.
Or you kill a white person then you've made okay man. Not Yeah,
now you're somebody
because yeah, you make it
it's very it's a very sick and what problem this is what I find
very problematic is people like Kamala Harris, Brock Obama, all
these sorrows sister DBAs. Y'all don't understand the nuance that
needs to be had when you're saying Who do we lock up who
don't we lock up? There is like, Oh, let everybody out. And then
what happens? The community gets rid of what kromm And then you
get the heavy hand of the law coming down. And then you get
another criminal justice system. I mean, Criminal Justice bill.
Yeah. And it's indiscriminate. And now black people are being
stopped to frisk again. So it's like, where's the nuance here,
but nobody wants to nuance. Everybody wants dead black man
in the street. Period. Well, not everybody on that on that level.
Clarify. Oh, now I'm talking. When we speak. We don't talk
about humans. Of course, people here. Yeah, we talked about
sanctions yesterday and dead black men work for everybody. It
works. It's this. It's the South for all wounds.
It's a floor wax and a dessert topping.
Exactly, because you can say, Look at this. If I want to say
about trans men, or trans trans women, who does it black men,
you know, it's always like you're gonna see I don't want to
talk and show here too much. But the train roll? Yeah. Um, so in
this next clip from the Chattanooga news piece, they
talk to somebody actually in the life so we have 2.1
When it comes to black on black crime and Chattanooga, gang task
force Community Outreach Coordinator, Fred Houser has
seen it all. Howser believes the problems unfolding on the
streets, don't start on the streets, but rather at home
where offenders come from broken families with little or no
guidance.
People often point back to the family well, when I was coming
up, it was a primary family, the mother and father, but it was
also everybody in the neighborhood, they represent the
family that structure you know has has broken down
and age does play a role that was confirmed by a man who
admits to being gang associated for his protection and the
protection of his family. We agreed to hide his face and
alter his voice
is
a myth that you know, the older you get in the beat in the game,
you know, saying the more power respect you get, and I and about
that normal you know, saying it's about the legal who out
here putting in the most work, you know, saying who will play
him, you know, saying Nick, who got to Maine forced to be 1617
years old, and between 30 and 40 year old girl Wow.
So that goes to show you about the decentralization now spots?
Not previously. That's all about a name. It's not about you know,
it's no ranks, you know, you're gonna make it the general or, or
you know, kappo or Lieutenant right, you make it up the ranks
and is no more that it's about you're basically the Wild West,
it's the Wild West, you're not the fastest gun,
you're in the fastest gun.
So, looking at this, we have to go back to the super predator
meme, because that's still alive and well slash the thug life or
the thug. Slash, you know, so this comes from my movie 1992
called juice. My featured
Tupac patch I remember this one. Yeah, sure.
And this scene right here let you enter the analysis movie in
his dramatize but wasn't
wasn't Kamala Harris in that movie. Sorry. I thought she was
hanging out with with Tupac back then I'm sorry
especially with the lady in the record store with a goalkeeper
Oh, yeah, so in this scene, it lets you into outside the mind
of what they will say a quote unquote super predator thinks
like
it's over. Everything starts from now. We all go down unless
we stay together and no one man above the crew you know that
shit crazy when you said that last time, I was kind of
tripping right now you fight crazy, but you know what else
give a fuck fuck about you. Don't give a fuck about steel.
And I'm gonna fuck about Raheem either. I'm gonna fuck about
myself. Again, shit. I never gonna be shit. And you less of a
man than me so soon as I decided you ain't gonna be shit. So be
yes, it's a rom com. Obviously.
So. So imagine coming across a person with that mentality that
has all the self hate in the world. Yeah. Nobody speaking
positivity into him because that's the thing that was the
character of Bishop. His father was a war vet. You know, he's
kind of out of it. And he was being bullied by Rotom as his
crew of rival gang. And he was tired of it. He was tired of
being pushed around. I'm not saying I'm Just trying to
humanize people. And it gets to the point where you have people
just outwardly suicidal. It's like, I'll let society do the
job for me of killing me. But I'll take now everybody along
the way I can. And that's kind of like the mentality of these
people that you come across. The problem with that is, there are
so far and few between, as we pointed out with the flaw, the
flaw in the super predator numbers, yeah, just because
people will say they subscribe to this mindset don't mean they
actually live it. And you have a lot of kids, including myself
when I was young, that would dress the part that would use
the vernacular to play the part. Because that's what the women
were attracted to. Were the girls. You know, they want the
tough guy. I mean, I mean, and this is, this is America, apple
pie. I mean, Fonzie got all the chicks. Because he had a leather
jacket and the motorcycle. I mean, let's just keep it 100
here. So this is nothing new. But it's this is what's feeding
this scenario with black on black crime. So I don't know. I
want to know what you took away from that scene or what? What
sparked what sparked your mind?
Well, it's, I think exactly what you said. It sounds like, well,
there's I've met some crazy people in my life. Maybe they
weren't in a gang. But they said crazy shit like this too. And
yeah, it's frightening. But if you're gonna think, Well, look,
this is trauma based entertainment. All the elements
are in there. It's easy to think Holy crap. That's what all the
urban areas are like, Kelly, you know, it's like I know that
sounds pretty desperate.
And it's very dangerous because when people watch this and then
they see me dressing looking like the characters they just
associate and like I said, all this is part of a bigger plan
and we're gonna get there. But I found a throwback clip from show
41 And this is to pot and he talks about Donald Trump and
greed and America I'm
sorry I'm sorry. I kind of stop you for a second Yeah, sure.
Well known is the talk that your parents had with you. Yes. Did
the talk not at any point say son stop dressing like a
gangbanger when you go out because you can get in trouble
just for the way you look.
But it's not the point about dress like a gangbanger is the
point of dressing about dress about point about dressing about
what's hip. I wasn't wearing bandanas and tailors in those
things.
Okay, I got you. Oh, but it doesn't take much. It doesn't
take much because it's popular.
Look at the hood. Look at the hoodie. Yeah, yeah, he's been
around since since forever, but it's like okay, we're gonna
wait.
And I have to say and then let's I'll shut up. The hoodie was an
exclusive white guy thing it got taken away from us was Trayvon.
It was the Unabomber. trademark. It was a white horrible guy.
trademark.
Oh, the other creepy guy with the sunglasses like, that's the
unit. Never think about
that. That was the unit. It was our hoodie, man. Thanks. Because
that's gonna show you how powerful images are. Because
when you said that, the composite sketch that's my
visual hoodie popped right into my head. But now that we say
hoodie, we think Trayvon Martin those things. Yeah, I mean, we
could go down the list. I mean, we like people who have taken a
whole bunch of wheat, wheat colored construction boots. It's
just that was whiter,
but that's okay. I feel good. You know, we've taken so much
from the black brothers here. You can have the hoodie.
With the hoodie that was like this, the hoodies been around
since this era. 1992. The champion hoodie. This was very
common. So it was amazing how they started to weaponize it
recently with the with the Trayvon Martin case, like it was
the hoodie, the hoodie. It's like, no, but we had a clip that
we played before. Like, I won't let my kids wear hoodies or
sneakers. It's like that's like the teenage boys go to is those
things. Yeah. And
when my dad was a kid, it was the boots, the engineer boots,
because that was with Marlon Brando hat and that was cool.
But then you were in a biker gang. So I guess it's the same
thing. He boots. Yeah, same thing.
Okay. Right. Gotcha. So So Now getting back to Tupac Trump in
greed.
This world is such an I say this world. I mean, I don't mean an
ideal sense. I mean, in every day, every little thing you do
is such give me give me give me everybody backlog. You know,
everybody's like you taught that from school, everywhere big
bins, you want to be successful. You want to be like Trump, give
me give me give me push, push, push, push, step steps that
crush, crush crush. That's how it all is. And it's like, nobody
ever stopped. Just, you know, I feel like, instead of us just
being like, slavery is bad slavery is that bad. YT bad
whitey. I mean, I, let's stop that. And everybody is smart
enough to know that. I mean, we've been slighted. And we want
ours. And I don't mean by like ours, 40 acres and mu because we
passed that. But we need help. I mean, for us to be on our own
two feet, us meaning us or us men and black people, whatever
you want to take the fall. For us to be on our own two feet, we
do need help. Because we have been here we have been a good
friend. If you want to make it a relationship type thing. We have
been there. And now we deserve our pay back. It's like you got
a friend that you don't never look out for. You know, you
dressed up in jewels. Now America's got Jews, and they got
they paid and everything and they lend money to everybody
except us.
It wasn't too too far too long before he was a shot wasn't.
This was 1992. So that was, what four years, four years. All
right. So this is this is pre This is pre jail, right? To pot.
And it was definitely a change that happened there. So maybe
one day we'll talk about that. But he makes a great point. That
was that was RemoteFX 41. If anyone wants to go back and
listen to more, that was
a thing. That Thug Life episode. That's right. So you have young
black men grow up in America, which is take what you want. If
somebody strikes on you, you strike back harder. If they
dropped two buildings in Manhattan, you go kill a million
people, you know, what's that? Like? This is the rider
mentality. And it's like, when they embrace it is wrong.
Yes, I this is one of my biggest, biggest gripes, of
course.
Because that's all we know, in America is just take. And you
know, I mean, when I'm when I'm saying corporate America,
America, the corporation is just tape, you know, and that's why I
like I think Trump gets respected at least, because he's
clear, you want us to come near what you're gonna give us?
Right? How about that? Oh, you know, what? You're saying you
want you want your streets cleaned up, you know, you want
us to bank bank, we are set, you know what you're gonna give us a
certain respect that comes with that. But yeah, so when you grow
this up, and then these kids are raised by television, you have
no father to give you any context and nuance or those
kinds of things. Like you said, the talk that you you have
mentioned before, there's a bunch of tasks that go on. This
is talks about how to deal with white people is taught today how
to deal with your Onchain. You know, if you're in certain
areas, don't go to certain areas that that people that look like
you. I mean, this talk thing is not only this talk thing is not
only about how to deal with white people, it's about how to
deal with threats to your life. That's what the talk is about.
Well, you said something interesting, because I thought
the talk was pretty much about law enforcement. At least,
that's what I've been told about the talk. You just said
something different. And it makes total sense, by the way.
But the first thing you said the talk is about how to deal with
white people. That's interesting.
Well, that's part that's one of the biggest one not even white
people, it's the cops. Okay, all right, no white people in
general. But what I'm saying, what I'm saying is anything that
can threaten your existence, whether it's taking your life,
or your reputation, or, or you know, impeding you from having a
good life, that's all encompassing of the talk that a
father has with his sons. And not let me be clear, I'm not
excluding the girls, but girls and women, and everybody else
has advocates for their cause. This is why this took me show
took me two weeks, because I'm being an advocate for young men
that look like me. And I understand, I'm lucky to be
here. And reason why I'm saying I'm lucky, I participated in
some of the same, some of the same activities, you know, our
car ride and you know, when you go out, you ride, you're gonna
say, you know, bad license, bad registration, you don't have
money, you know, the state is always messing with you some
kind of way that you know, right or wrong, I mean, but the state
needs there's I mean, but you know, when you're young you
don't think about that kind of thing. And I'm just to be honest
with you, I wanted to bad searchers, away from being you
know, say of being a victim of the criminal justice system. So
when I speak about young black man, I'm speaking from the heart
and black men in general, but especially with young young
black men, I'll speak it for the heart because everybody else has
the goal to use them for their own game,
of course. So no, thank you. That's personal, but it's no
that's it's very much at home with me. It's very much
appreciated. And as you're saying, and that I was thinking
that, you know, of course, I think every young man gets into
some stupid shit and we do some stupid shit. But I've never done
anything that I never got caught. But I also didn't, I'm
sure. But I'm sure of it. I'm sure that I didn't have the same
fear that you had for sure. I didn't have the same fear.
What's the odds? It's like, let's take Corona, for instance.
The more you test, the more positive you find, right? Yep.
So it's the same thing when you start talking about arresting
pulling over people's more bullshit. You're gonna have more
you are? Yeah, yeah. The more I have the roaches you're gonna
find you have it's not like you you blatantly know. Oh, I forgot
to you know, have this roach in my bookbag or,
you know, didn't have time to stop by my locker to drop this
off. That I mean just and really now you knew way drugs you knew
you knew if the gateway drug the more the more you test, the more
positives you get that you nailed it. That's exactly right,
the more you test, and if you're testing a certain group more,
you're going to find the shit with them. Absolutely. Now
because that's a topic we share. And I guarantee you I've smoke
more weed than you have.
You probably have well I'm just saying that I'm probably better
of course.
Now it's that is it
now that's a you know, just the inside baseball ultimate the all
good we're all good races. We are good. We will often refer to
as white boy, we really so yeah, don't
get me that Urbis can come in I want to white boy, we do come
visit me Yeah, MO. And we'll show you what that's about.
So to get into the mindset of what we will call a thug, or a
super predator, at one time, Malcolm X, will fall into this
category before he was enlightened, you know, and
broadened. So the knowledge of self and you know, the plight
against these people. So I have some excerpts from his
autobiography written by Alex Haley. And it's written by Joe
Morton, and let's just get into 1.1. West any Archie vs. Detroit
read.
It was a classic hustler code impasse. The money wasn't the
problem. I still had about $200 of it. had money been the issue,
Sammy could have made up the difference. If it wasn't in his
pocket. His women could quickly have raised it. Within the an
Archie himself for that matter would have loaned me $300 About
asked him as many 1000s of dollars of miners he'd gotten
10% off once in fact, when he'd heard I was broke. He had looked
me up and handed me some money and grunted, stick this in the
pocket. The issue was the position which his action had
put us both into for hustling on our sidewalk, jungle world face
and Ana were important. No hustler could have known that
he'd been hyped meaning outsmarted Omega foo love and
worse. The Hustler could never afford to have a demonstrated
that he could be bluffed that he could be frightened by a threat
that he lacked nerve. West Indian Archie knew that some
young hustlers row was in stature in our world when they
somehow hoodwinked older hustlers than put it on the wire
for everyone to hear. He believed I was trying that, in
turn, I knew he would be protecting his stature by
broadcasting all of the why his threat to me because of this
code. In my time in Harlem, I'd personally known a dozen
hustlers who threatened left town disgraced. Once the wire
had it, any retreat by either abyss was unthinkable, the wine
would be awaiting the report of the showdown.
So this is yo Malcolm X. He's claimed that he hit a number and
the guy that ran the numbers of Austin numbers is a huge
component of black culture. And that time not as much now
because you have the little illegal lottery. But he claimed
that he had a number Archie say he didn't so they now they're at
an impasse right. And to save face. Archie has to call Malcolm
out who was not at Detroit read it at the time. And this thing
he referred to multiple times is the wire Yeah, the wire the
wire. The wire is what social media is now or what we say the
streets but they say the streets is talking. Used to hear this
all heard it through a grapevine Bird on the wire, what they're
talking. This is this was like the social media of that time.
And once it got on the wire that you had been played you have to
save face. And that's what it's all about now I still decided
that it's not most of them are not about money it's about this
image that you create it won't be in Detroit read other than
being Weston Archie, which are caricatures or lack of I'll
lose. I don't have a lack of better word but just caricatures
of themselves or alter egos. That's the word I'm looking for
these alter ego that you build up for yourself on the streets.
That's why every rapper has an alter ego, if you notice, and
sometimes multiple ones, because he's like, You have Curtis
Jackson, do you have 50 cents? 50 cents can't get played, you
know, with the Archie can't get played Detroit Red can't get
played. So now the wire is waiting scene.
Did he get flav? Oh, right. Right. Exactly. It's the wire.
So I completely understand the wires that time when had been
barber shops and guy on the corner to the next guy,
telephones telephone and now that come back and hip hop as
like a real wire that ran through the songs or is it
always kind of maintain that street level? And it may it may
be as you said social media today? Does it still exist in
the old form of the wire?
No. Well, I mean, it's all about technology and how it can be
utilized. So it's hard to telephone. Okay, and then we
have music come about you had it go on wax and you're saying they
always say the term on wax off wax on wax be me was just night
talking jump when it would jump off a wax because you saw this
with a Tupac and Biggie thing. Once it gets to a point one guy
sleeping with the other guy's wife, or claiming that sweet
sleep with other guys wife. Something has to happen. Say
you're at a point now of it's
not really a racial thing. Someone's got to happen in every
group with that shit. Yeah.
And I'm glad you asked me because I'm open on home. Boom.
It's the same thing with Roger Stone. General Flynn. We don't
fall we don't rat us. There sir. Certain things that the street
respect about just code Donald Trump, and he's saying his
cohort. It's like, and Cohen was looking at like a rat. It's
like, Bro Yeah, that was a bad look. It was a very, it was a
very bad look. Because I mean, because I'm looking at through
the streets eyes. And it's like, no, you can't read. I mean, you
did dirt with this dude. I mean, you his lawyer, for God's sake.
And you out here you're saying you out here, right? I mean,
what, you know, General Flynn, that would be considered
soldiers. Right? But the irony in that you put they were could
be considered soldiers because they didn't tell they didn't
take the easy way out. You know, they wrote um, so this face
saving face thing. I mean, it's big in all cultures, especially
masculine driven culture, right. So I just wanna I just want to
say that that's cool. I enjoy hearing that. Thank you.
Alright, so now you have Weston Archie in Detroit read about and
how a face off and we'll hear about it and one point to
the next thing I knew Weston and Archie was standing before me
cursing me loud. His gun on me was really making his public
point floor show him for the people. He called me foul names
threatened. Everyone bought tenders customers sat or stood
as dough carved drinks in midair. The jukebox in the rear
was going. I had never seen West Indian Archie hand before. Not a
whiskey. Ha. I could tell it was something else. I knew the
hustlers characteristic of keying up on dope to do a job. I
was thinking I'm gonna kill Archie. I'm just gonna wait
until he turns around to get the drop on them. I could feel my
own 32 resting against my ribs where it was tucked under my
belt beneath my coat was Tinian Archie Seaman to read my mind.
Quit Kherson and his words jarred me. You're thinking
you're gonna kill me first read. But I'm gonna give you something
to think about. I'm 60 I'm an old man. I begin to Sing sing.
My life is over. You're a young man. Kill me. You're lost
anyway. All you can do is go to prison. I've since stopped that
Western Ian Archie may have been trying to scare me into run it
to see both his face and his life. It may be that's why he
was so high. No one knew that I hadn't killed anyone. But no one
who knew me including myself would doubt
that I'd kill. Wow, it's a great story.
This goes to show you if this would have went left. Yeah, it
could have not have one of our greatest leaders in history.
Make it to the point where he was able to realize you know was
saying who he really was you know and what that he brought so
this is why I'm passionate about a young man I think there's a
lot of redeemable young men out there it just takes guidance and
this is why the father No father in the home and you know parent
fathers family back together a parent privilege is so important
now we have to get to the so called white people that love to
bring up black on black call
hey now it's Adams portion of the show. Okay.
Well, now I'm messing with he's amazing how Yeah, no, say it's
amazing how black people are demonized when they have
standoffs like Detroit Red and West any art you have, but not
so much of their gunslingers.
Oh, okay. Shall we roll this? Yes, please.
The tense prolonged drama of the Western gunfight. It is a scene
played over and over, not only in books and on the screen, but
also in our imagination.
Well, the classic Western gunfight that's in our mind, is
of two men facing off in the street with a camera angle
underneath one person's leg looking at the other one, the
good guy, he lets the bad guy draw first. And then of course,
the good guy ends up drawing and shooting the bad guy between the
eyes End of story.
When we think of Western gunfighters, we think of the
classic Western gunfight problem is it's simply never happened. I
don't know of a single time in Western history, where two guys
were actually dumb enough to get out in the middle of the street
and challenge each other to a draw. He get killed like that.
Yeah, so true, though. Yeah, of course it then. That is
interesting. Black, Black cowboy guy. black guys in cowboy movies
isn't really strange, you know, walking around with guns because
I got the hats on to the Spurs. And it's all good.
Right? Bass bass. Reeves won the baddest man every wall you're
saying. Right?
Exactly.
But it's, as you can see here, all about narrative, even though
it didn't go down that way. They can rewrite history. And that's
what happened here. And we're gonna look start looking, we got
to look at history. I'm not a big history person. Even though
I play a lot of clips from history. Yeah, I'm about what
narrative survived from history. That's what piques my interest.
But why are we talking about what we're talking about now,
and not the other 10 Interesting things that get buried who's
pushing this narrative? So to explain the Western culture, the
wild, wild west, they had the, you know, civilize it like I'm
calling you out. Meet me out Todd at high noon. And that's
not even how it went down. But the fact that that's programmed
into my mind, it's like, I look at black people to do the same
thing. A Detroit Red meet me outside, right? Just look at him
as two thugs. But now this is this is real white supremacy
something really honorable about a gunfight the way you imagine
it in the movies where they're standing out again, and you
know, face to face and exactly said that shot from through one
guy's legs, see the other guy that always has like this
dueling kind of honest man thing.
You call me yellow. These terms of
mind and not a racist term, by the way, ya
know? What, what if you have two black men call each other out in
the streets that have honest grievances, and they just shoot
it out? is seen as Oh, that's barbaric. You know, these are
this is this narrative that I'm talking about. And the thing is
glyphs Lakers don't even exist, they're not even a real thing.
That's just the movies.
Power the mountain a narrative.
All right, and we're gonna say,
before I continue all I want to go back to one point and on the
war watch front that we do. So what you have here, the super
the duck is the product of the gender of the call the gender
war, and now his result itself in the generational war. Yeah,
because the children have been charged up against men, older
men, and that's why you're seeing it play out in the
streets like mess and I wanted to make that point before we got
away too far with West Indian Archie in Detroit red clip.
There's always gonna be eminent t between older men and younger
men, but it's only up heighten by the mother, you know, shaping
the young boy's mind against the older male, ie the father,
right?
Yeah, that flows Oh, of course that flows over. So me is like
now I'm 56 I'm definitely a guy to be hated.
Naturally, I mean, as in this is part of nature. I mean, the
younger models and the younger lions, you know, they're gonna
look to test the older ones. But that's what separates for
animals is that when we work with the previous generations,
and all other genders that you know, make a better civilization
and better society. So I just want I just wanted to go back to
that because I just want to lay that out because all the we
talked about is going to be gender war, generational war, or
race war, right. So Alright, so let's get into wild west part
two.
But there is certainly a grain of truth behind the gunslinger
legend. And finding it takes us to the western frontier in the
second half of the 19th century. It was a lawless time when the
harsh and grimy reality of life came to favor those who were
fearless with a gun.
The willingness to step to the edge is what determined whether
or not a man had what it took. If you think of the quote from
the novel, The Shootist, JB books, the protagonist says,
most men will hesitate before they pull the trigger, they'll
blink an eye or take a breath. I won't.
In the Old West, Shootist was a common term for the men who made
the reputations with guns. The word gunfighter appeared as
early as 1870, but did not come into wide use until later. The
word gun slinger is probably a creation of the 20th century.
Researchers at Merriam Webster's have traced it no further than
the famous author Zane Grey, who used it in his novel Nevada,
written in 1928. The Gunslinger by any name was the product of a
society in which guns were essential tools from the very
beginning.
Yeah, no doubt that is our culture. That is our that is our
American culture for sure.
So if you take young men, and you show them these images,
yeah, you have no no fork, counterbalance force there to
explain to them what they're saying. And to splaining to them
about being positive, or not even positive but righteous in
your actions. I mean, because even when Clint Eastwood came,
he's like, okay, I get it. You know? Those guys are bad. Even
though Clint is kind of bad. You know? They will hire him to
clean up the town. Yeah, we don't get any of that
counterbalance there. Now, I want to go back to controlling
language. gunslinger is a creation of the 20th century.
Yes. I've never heard the term shoot. It's before now.
I had not heard that either. Shoot us? No, that was new to
me, too.
We need to start referring to you know, black on black. Oh,
did you shoot is this the shoot is culture, you know? Something
like that. I mean, it's amazing the narrative of how it could
just be explained away. How certain cultures gain their way
in American it's like, oh, no, those rough times. It was
decided by the gun and guns were critical tools. And I'm not
justifying any of them. I'm just saying this shoot is
The Shootist. That was the John Wayne movie. Really? Yeah, the
shoot is not the excuse me, I'm not the film buff. It's not like
the Siskel and Ebert over here just to date myself. Wikipedia
the shooters there's a 7690 76 American western film directed
by Don Segal. It is notably known as John Wayne's final film
roll. And he is John Wayne, Lauren Bacall. He's The
Shootist. So, that is interesting. I'm just throwing
it out there because that always gives us context when we find
the root the roots of these words,
and it's the shared mentality of a cow like Billy the Kid and
somebody, a young kid now. You know, I have my gun. My gun is
the only thing that allows me not to become a victim. And you
know, is me and my gun. Right? That's the mentality. So how can
we look down on the premise of how they got their kit? and also
considering all the things that shape their environment that we
talked to talk about in the last 47 episodes. Yes, hopefully, you
know, we explained that a little bit, but it doesn't just start
when the wild wild west either.
And neighborhood turf was absolutely everything the gang
members and the I think probably a good gas for the average age
of a gang member was probably about 16 or 17, probably down to
as low as 12.
I mean, they did every possible thing that you could do. At the
time, the corruption was unbelievable when you when you
really get into the history of
the people must be made to understand that all these things
are best kept within what I like to call the Tammany family,
which is why I'm talking about an alliance between our two
great organizations. Talking about muscle, muscle damage our
spirit, we want classes, get them to the police. Oh, no,
Jesus, no. The appearance of the law must be upheld. Especially
while it's being broken.
There was a time when the line between criminal and hero and
decent human being and not a decent human being were very
muddy
and murky. Yeah, she Yeah. Yeah. This is from a movie right. Oh,
Liam
Neeson? Oh, Liam. Yeah, this is from gang of America. Gang gangs
in New York. Yeah. But do you listen to how they were talking
about it? i Oh, yeah. You know, the lines were murky then. And
oh, they did? I mean, even on Leonardo DiCaprio, HE CHUCKLES
when he talks about his? Oh, yeah, they did everything. So
it's this mentality of like every other culture. And you
hear this a lot. When you talk about black on black crime, the
retort is, well, the Kennedys got rich off a liquor. The
Bush's got rich off of cocaine, I mean, and steel and oil and
those kinds of things. So these people are aware of American
history, not the ones don't know, boots on the ground. But
it's a couple of things. I want to point out in that clip. He
says that, when I think they're talking to Boss Tweed, and he
says, Why don't you get the rollers to roll this, I think is
another word for cops at the time, because I want you to get
them to do is I No, no, no, no, no. We need muscle. That's the
third wave.
That's the third wave. Third Wave, right. Yeah, I want to re
explain this.
So the third wave is okay, we have a Black Lives Matter ink or
black black ink protest. The first wave are, you know, the
Black Lives Matter?
It's the suburban kids who are who, meanwhile, are under
informed and over socialized?
Well, I think that I think the first wave of activists are the
charts color. Oh, well, well trained Marxist. By their by
their turn? Yes. We're super super trained or super versed in
Marxism. Yeah, well, they're on the group that the the first
wave. And then you have the second wave, or the agent
provocateurs, the ones that break the glass. Now, we've seen
that they could come on either side or the right or the left,
because we've seen some, some stories there. But then the
third wave are the actual people who who criminal element. Yeah,
well, it's,
let me play it back, just to make sure that I got it right.
Because we had this conversation around one I know. And the third
wave is literally the the the people who have in the beginning
of the show, were saying, well, it like Tupac said, Take Take,
that's what Trump does. All these guys do it when they get
the opportunity. The windows were broken. We didn't break the
windows, but now it's open people go what this is we're
going to take this is what everybody does, that is the
American way that that I think is your point about the third
wave.
That's my whole point is kind of like when they have you know, we
go to other nations, like these non governmental organizations.
That will be the third way is like, you know, the government
came in and destabilize and you know, Rubble is the word you
like to use. But now we're going to clean up and now if we have
to, now if we take you know, make a profit off of it, it is
what it is, is here for the taking that kind of thing. So
it's the same it's the same mentality what is just amazing.
I want to point this final point out of Liam Neeson This is the
same guy that says that the thought of black man hair right
one of his friends or she told him right, he walked the streets
for weeks, looking for a black man to beat up and attack. But
then he laughs All criminality when it's done by other people.
It's just amazing. The hypocrisy. I'm saying Yeah. When
you say black on black crime, or remember that America is rooted
rooted in criminal criminal activity and in criminal
mindset, you know, from the very beginning because he was strong,
only the strong survive. I mean, like I'm not taking away
anything. I'm just saying that's the
reality. Let me throw somewhere nice. Let me let me throw
something at you. As a so called white man in America, of course,
I recognize the criminal activity. And as I said earlier,
and she didn't have the pleasure, that was a lot of the
political system and elements in politics are incredibly
criminal. It's interesting, I know that if I really had wanted
to, or if I was younger, if I wanted to, I know that I could
achieve that level of criminality. And I would
understand that, and I'm just shooting from the hip here, so
So I don't know if there's gonna go anywhere. It's like, I would
be familiar, like, okay, but you know, these are bunch of douche
bags. And they're not going to shoot me. The worst I can get
from them is they're going to steal from me indirectly. And
they might send me or my kids off to war, then when you see,
you know, like the like, the music videos, or Tupac juice,
the juice movie, like, I can never be that. And I And it's
true, I can never be that because I can never be that, you
see. And that is by itself really scary, because I don't
know what that person is maybe capable of. Whereas I can
identify with that person over there. And that seems much less.
And it's and by the way, it's truly racist thinking. But
that's what it was. He's really
whining. This is systemic. This is systemic racism. I mean, we
didn't rewrite history. No, you
know what it is? It's just ignorance. It's ignorance. I
look at the world so differently. After 47 episodes,
my life has changed. And I've been doing
the work, I'm talking about the people. I'm talking about the
people that says that they built the system, where you could
think that way to think it's fantastic. Did so
smart.
It is. I mean, genie has a Yeah, I'm not taking anything away
from the architecture of it. I'm just telling you what the system
is. And it's, we're designing it to say two behaviors, with be
seen totally different by who's doing that behavior. And this is
probably saying that now,
it's probably one of the most important episodes we've done. I
know I said it before. But when you come to the realization that
the system really has been set up for you to believe these
things, and you know, obviously, I know a lot of this is
reinforced through entertainment and media. But most people can
never step back and see that vast difference. There may be
people right now listening, going, and I'm quite get it. I'm
telling you, I'm telling you that you have to, like holy
shit. It's absolutely true. But and this is the good point the
other. The for me, the good thing is, when you think about
it, when you've had to think about it, your your thinking is,
is changed forever. That's good news.
Yeah. Because you see from and, and likewise, if you come up on
the other side of that coin, you say, how can they not? How can
they not see its course, of course. But
when you achieve a certain level in America, and you're not faced
with it day by day, then you understand or some people don't
understand. They just say, Oh, I brought pull myself by my own
bootstraps, you know, I put myself in this position to
succeed. No, you were very lucky. Because you didn't get
the full brunt of what the system does. That's the only
like I said, the only thing that protected me was my parents my
parental privilege. That's it, because they made me who
realized who I was what was out there, how to navigate the
system. And I had a lot of praying, praying people for me,
I'm gonna be honest with you, because like I said, one, one
bad turn. And easily you get caught up in that system. And
people think, Oh, well, you're not getting 20 years for, you
know, no smoking a joint. But it's a slippery slope. Once you
get in that system. Yeah. You never can get out because it's
accumulation. Now we've built this one thing, next thing and a
lot of guys in jail rather just finished their sentence in jail
because they understand the system. It's like, I'm not going
in your probation or your pro, right, just under monitoring
report, another six years, and the more you test.
I'll just sit it out here. That's better. That's
interesting.
Yeah, it is a real occurrence. But it's to get back to the
gang. Good news. Oh, go ahead.
No, I was gonna say, just going back to the criminal justice
reform. A lot of that is early parole, early parole, early
parole, which, if I hear you correctly, in some percentage of
cases, maybe majority is actually the bad because that's
where you get the more testing more cases and it's, there's so
much risk without it. I don't know. It just seems like that's
where your recidivism comes from.
Well, yeah, cuz the old criminal justice system me like you do 10
Year 10 days in jail, pay your fine and you're done. But now
it's like, no, we're gonna give you two years probation. Okay,
so you're gonna give a 16 year old, two years of call it what
it is monitoring OTG guy you're monitoring and say, Okay, if a
slip up, then we're going to hit them without stiffer penalty.
Yeah, yeah, I would rather go to jail for 10 days and just be
done with it. You know, if the law didn't affect my record, I
mean, my long term record, I would just rather get it over
with but this is the system. You know, it's there's no win in
this system.
Another thing you don't think about now, a good friend of mine
did actually go to jail, and white collar crime. And he went
away for I think, 18 months. And so I got a real I'd never used
what is it called the pay message? JJ pay and J message
which is your the jail?
I'll collect calls. Well, like call? Oh, yeah. But you have to
wait. You gotta send credits to him. And even to reply to a
message. He didn't have any email. To reply to a message. I
had to give him credits, like $1 an email, a message, he could
send something back to me. And he would write to me and of
course, that would always arrive open and all that crap, but
forget that. His parole period. And the shackles that he has,
metaphorically speaking, are insane. And and this, it's, it's
been hard for him to get his life back together because he
was more on higher end. Because he was doing business stuff. No
one wants to do business with him. Because he's got a record
he got check the box. You got to check it. Check the box. That's
right. You can't raise money. He can't raise money through the
traditional means because of the box. Yeah. So
let me let me have one quick aside before we continue with
this clip, about the box. I've known several people to not
check the box, show up to work, be great employees, some of the
best employees. I mean, when I was working, you know, and
warehouses and things of that nature during college. And then
they come to find out they run their background check on him
and then they walk them out. But I'm like, oh, yeah, when it made
it in the door if he does check the box. Yeah. Now did you eat
proven himself to be reliable? Who probably more reliable than,
you know, people that didn't have that hanging over their
head? And it's like, oh, no, you're a felon. You got to get
him out of here. But you worked with this guy for two months. I
mean, he's a great guy. Now get him out of here. So this is the
system. This is the system. Yeah. Um, so let's just get back
into the gangs in New York, part two boss,
tweed, William Marcy tweed, was himself a virus, Stockman grew
up in the side tenement, came up through the ranks and was in one
of the leading lights, if not the leading lights of Tammany
Hall, he pulled the strings, they control the gangs, to the
degree that the gangs were an unofficial arm of enforcement.
The gangs were not officially on the city payroll, but certainly
some of the gangs function is that they effectively were on
the city payroll, and they worked for whoever happened to
be wielding the most power. That's how gangs operate. You
know, besides protecting themselves in their turf, they
are available for hire to whoever holds the club and and
since tweed, did he effectively hold control the games?
Once again, notice, Boss Tweed this alter ego. Yeah, you know,
he didn't go by his regular name. It was bald, I mean that
his name had to ring bells in the streets. And so you go by
this moniker and your moniker really gets bigger than you
know, saying your personality gets bigger, or the persona gets
bigger than who you really are. So I'm just I'm just wrapping it
up, like when you start when you start want to start pointing the
finger at black on black crime, hey, everybody in American had
criminal elements in their so called race. So I mean, so this
chair with that, and um, I asked this question, I don't have an
answer to it. But it's black people just going through this
because we're delayed and we're going through our wild west
phase now. I'm asking I mean, it's it's a legitimate question,
right. I mean, because at some point you had, you know, the
McCoys and the Hatfields, you know, I mean, these things
progressed, that they, you know, America became more civilized.
So I'm just wondering, is it a date that they delayed effect
We're so called black people. I don't know. Okay.
Well, let's, let's address it for a second because earlier,
yes, well, when we when we played the the Gangs of New
York, I mean, as far as I know, from the time period, there were
no black people to be in the gang because they had other
jobs, quote, jobs. So that's why they weren't there. So it's
that's an interesting question, if that is a process of
maturation as as a human group, you know, as a few because
obviously, you know, you're a, you're a group of people, you
share a lot with everybody else, but shit, yeah, you got a big
delay on a lot of stuff. It's very possible. I mean, that's
something you need to ask. You know, like Brett Weinstein or
something, you know, some social social biologist guy, that's a
grit. Ooh, I almost said it, but it's a pretty good damn good
question. I don't I don't know.
And who knows, we might be on our way to our own harvests or
yields like Columbia's
I'm out in China. And I find that the grandfather of Franklin
Delano Roosevelt, his name was Warren Delano was the opium king
of China. The fortune that Franklin Delano Roosevelt lived
off of custom made suits, nice houses, sailboats, vacations,
summer homes. He didn't make that money he inherited from
grandpa Warren Delano, the opium king of China, Cabot house at
Harvard, opium Skull and Bones at Yale opium, the Law Library
at Columbia opium money. If you go on the Princeton website, at
least they're honest, they will admit that their first biggest
benefactor, John Green, was an opium dealer with Warren Delano.
So the book is full of surprises. I'll let you judge,
it didn't change my view about America so much. What it did is
changed my view about American historians.
I said my first all dope money to tell you when I first thought
when I heard that. So back to the maturation process. So let's
just say you've got 50 years at least delay in in the modern
gangster society, at least. So now you've got a new type of
opium. It's fentanyl. And maybe this is your time, this is your
time to build up big gear, big fentanyl empires. And the
Chinese are feeding. problem, okay.
Guy, there's only one problem. There's no bottom for us to sell
to. We were the bottom for all those other
groups, right?
There's nobody behind us for us to sell to. So we sell to
ourselves. So we take money out of one pocket and put it into
the other pocket. On the same pair of pants. Yeah, that's
always happening, because I always allude back to this
pivotal scene and the godfather. And excuse me for saying this,
but you say keep it down there with the niggers? What do you
say? The same person who made the gangs in New York, Martin
Scorsese. So I'm just saying like that till they were at the
bottom. And and as I prove later in the show, black man is the
odd the bottom of the bottom.
It hurts me when you say, that really hurts when you say that.
But I understand what you're saying in a generalization.
Absolutely.
So what I'm saying is this, I'm not saying it as a it's a
deficit. I'm just saying that this is the you know, prognosis.
It's like this is, you know, you're fighting for your life or
you know, whatever ailment. Now, can we win? Can we beat it? Of
course, we could be anything, but it's like you have to have
an accurate diagnosis of the problem before you can even
start to treat it.
And it is so accurate. When you look at what is happening today.
I asked Joe Rogan, I said name one black leader of one male
leader in black lives matter. Is there any is there any black
man, you know, who is leading the charge in any type of
movement at this moment? And he said, No, it's I don't even know
who Black Lives Matters. Leaders are saying, you know, colors in
the Okay. He kind of knew that. But yeah, he had to admit, I
said, that's the problem. That's the problem. That that's the
real victim here.
And MC solution is this conversation we're having here,
Adam. First, the
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are under the rug out on top of the table and take an
intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only
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our next SOC executive producer K are what do you think doing a
roundtable discussion on Joe Rogan show that analyzes the
stats and history of racial issues. I can think of a few
experts in personalities including you guys that would be
interesting to assemble for such a discussion. I'm concerned that
too many November voters will be voting based on incorrect stats
and incorrect history. You guys have the decency, power and
talent to ease racial tensions and educate America without
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If this doesn't sound like a lame idea finer details of the
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black No. This is it. This is the core This is it. This is the
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then judge not a man by the color of skin but by the by
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no different and different. But what's interesting here is what
we don't talk about, necessarily the issues of the day. But how
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peeling back the layer, leaf by leaf layer by layer to get how
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Now we have to get into the mindset. And the system that we
referred to earlier that's being played on so called black
people. So there's this very popular YouTuber called Daisy
and Noah and he speaks about this phenomenon and reliving
2016 and Jacob Blake,
let's break down the confabulations here. First and
foremost, in order for blacks to have a respected voice, we must
demonstrate a balanced and unconditional concern for our
community. As a group, it has miserably failed at this
required step. How? Well let's focus on the word unconditional.
We seem to only have rage against injustice under specific
conditions. These are if a non black or white action violates a
black body, though we by habit, tend to ignore when we violate
our own. There was a curse of MDD between a spiritually and an
engineer to psychological trauma induced systemically but that
life shall hang in doubt before thee, and thou shalt fear day
and night, and shall have none assurance of that life. See,
blacks have become an astonishment, a proverb, and a
byword. Blackness is bought and sold as a product.
generationally, our culture has been and continues to be
formulated through the establishment media machine. And
visuals of cops killing blacks is just part of the
psychological traumatization, which in turn, produces a black
victimhood and perpetuates a state of generational
victimization.
I think I've seen this guy maybe the the Twitter algo through me
that or something, tell me again, with the YouTube channel,
I want to make sure we have that in the show notes
days and over this is d A yz. of Noah is no Ah, okay. Very, very
deep brother, um, has a master's degree in sociology, that
doesn't matter what his credentials are. But just to
make sure that people take him seriously. Because when you say
YouTuber that smacks of a certain Yes, it's
only a little better than podcaster.
Right? So they want to put you in a box. But you have very
serious people, as you're going to hear later in this episode on
YouTube making a case for the young black male and the black
male in general. Yes. And as he stayed in here, the only time as
far as alluding to before, the only time it really matters is
when it's semi of non black descent, kills a black person.
So we had to be unconditional with this. So now we get to the
portion of the show where Yeah, what about black on black crime,
because that mean that is coming from people like him myself,
that are serious about having that conversation, not using it
as a tool of deflection, we really have to look at what's
going on here. So he, like he broke it down, he was like that.
Basically, the trauma of fees and to making us victims, the
victim hood feeds into devaluing our life. And then it results
into a devalue life. sees another person as devalue live,
like we saw in juice, saying, I'm not it. You're saying you're
less than me, you know, so I can take you out anytime. That's
that's the cycle. And this is why you see over and over again,
black young black man callously taking other young black man's
lives. So I mean, it is realization and we spot it the
system. Now is us bringing attention to this system that
that's been identified. So now we I'm speaking of Jews, he
makes a reference to that as well. And this next clip,
oh, but you blacks keep killing other blacks. Why don't you ever
address that? We hear that all the time. Though this is true.
And one of my personal arguments as well, I understand why, and
this Why is rarely addressed. So let's address it. Let's put this
argument to bed for good. With three words. Pathological
generational desensitization. See two generations of socially
pitting blacks against blacks through pigmentation, class and
phenotype. A self hatred is psychologically created. If you
hate yourself, you will hate your brother and your sister. In
addition to this internal abuse, externally, blacks have become
desensitized to killing other blacks through a strategic and
ubiquitous debased death culture, a culture of death
where murder and intercultural conflict is glorified. If you
got the juice you get the respect Yeah.
She he said it's a generational thing it no is constant
generational desensitization Yeah. It I made a loss for words
because here we are, you have young black man down in the
street, nobody really cares except for how they can extract
it and use it for currency to push their their own narrative
and causes if they died in the right way. And as and Exactly.
And as he said, as the producer wrote in the letter, you hear
people say, Oh, you're light skinned, you know you're acting
light skinned. So you have all these different fractures and
battling points, you know, you're light skinned, you're
dark skinned, you're dark skinned, black is ugly, you
know, this is within the race, we, we haven't even stepped
outside and start talking about inter racial relationships. This
is our intro. And this is what devalues the you know, devalues
black life in itself. And if you notice, Black Lives Matter,
don't say black people matter. Or black men matter is black
lives lives is a product now. It's a product, it's just like
MLK or anything else. You know, how does it impact black lives?
I mean, no, how does it impact impact humans people, you know,
but they don't they want to dehumanize them for their own
own purposes. And like I said, we'll get to that later. It's
it's a very subtly, but it's a very sophisticated productize
ation.
Yeah, cuz Who are we talking about? We save lives? I mean,
you can. We are even we even heard them say when they talked
about what they're trying to change at their tech talks a
while back in a few shows. I mean, like that early on in the
making of the show, they went off on global warming and all
these other things, but never said black men. Never. And I
know I'm harping on black men.
But I want to thank you, thank you again, because this because
it's something that's so bothersome about black lives
matter. It is actually a deep, generative generalization that
black people would have, of course, that somehow would be
racist, I'm sure. But they'd never it's dehumanized by Satan.
Because what are the other? You know, it's like, so many lives
were lost on the good ship. Titanic. You know, it's like, it
doesn't really personalize it in any way.
And what it also does when they say black lives matter, you can
move the goalposts because yeah, we brought you it's like, what's
it called the loss leader? Let me enter the loss leader. Doors.
Oh, yeah. Come on in. Now, let's talk about trans lives. And
let's talk about how global warming affects people of color.
And you know, it gets you in the door. Shift. What lobs mean,
what are you talking about?
That's very impressive, very important point. That's a very
important point.
Because staring you right in the middle is, as you think about
it. Yeah, and I understand, and that's what's so frustrating for
black man. It's like, do y'all not understand. But now when it
starts to affect other demographics, people start
realizing like, wow, you know, or we start to get a voice
because what happened is here, before with the Boulais, they
could pick who they want to talk for us, right? But now, when you
bring up this top topic of black on black crime, and death for
black men and things of that nature, you have people like
days, and no other gentleman that we played on the show, even
myself, say, no, no, no, no, you're not going to control the
narrative about us. We're gonna control this narrative. That's
what caused the political fraction. And the Democratic
Party are the black voting Democrats, because black men say
no, if it doesn't address us, we're not for it. You know,
usually they just tell us to shut up and vote. I mean, you
heard people saying those little words of shut up and vote. But
now we're saying No, unless it address us, unless it's
tangible. Unless you have a tangible way you can drive down
the number of lives lost. We will take it from here. We'll
talk for ourselves.
I think it's live. It's live saved or created, I believe is
the term jobs. Live saved created? Yes. That's how
politicians measure stuff. Yeah, yeah, that is good. But just so
you know, because and of course, you know, but I want to
reiterate it. Right. So black men are saying, Why don't they
see what's going on? Because we literally didn't, because we
were all wrapped up on our own shit, obviously.
And all fairness, the people doing the speaking and stuff Are
those rooms? Oh, we're not allies to us black men? No, of
course not. Even though they share the same pigment and
melanin in their skin, it's like we're gonna for our agenda
first, you know, we have a, we have an opportunity here. And
just to foreshadow a little bit, we saw this with the VP
selection. It wasn't about stopping black man get killed,
you know, I mean, it was like, We want a black female
president. I mean, Vice President Excuse me. But we'll
get to we'll get there. But let's let days and No, no, we'll
finish up speaking on creating culture.
See, decades, upon decades of this type of detrimental
programming has rendered the black culture into a zealous or
a Boris taking pride in eating its own tail. This is why it's
so easy for blacks to kill blacks and not feel injustice.
Because for decades, black on black conflict has been
justified through establishment controlled media, major motion
pictures, and the music industry. We can always refer
back to our studies on Plato, our studies on Aldous Huxley and
many others in their focus on how music alone has a spiritual
power and can literally condition the spirit and the
mind through sound. And melody. These things aren't to be
debated. This is why the music industry is so heavily utilized
to socially engineer the public and create culture single
handedly
he's good guys good I like him but
there you have it. They've used culture or so called culture I
mean it's a very toxic it really is a culture a death and I'm
gonna say this is a cult a death. Let me let me correct
that. Because Kali Ma, remember thugs come from Dougie. Dougie
comes from India, which was a cult that worshipped Kali Ma,
which was the destroyer, God or God is however you want to look
at it. And this death cult continues on now you have black
men call themselves thugs and they kill their death cult,
because that's all they're taught through music film. I
mean, we would dress to hear juice, hip hop. I mean, we've
addressed all of this, but I know you people are saying well,
as a YouTuber mo ii, your YouTuber too. So let's go to the
real serious people in the field. His next set of clips is
from Tom Burrell. I don't know if you ever heard of him and I
promise you you have but I'm not sure if you I think? Yes, I
think so. Big Bad guy.
Yes, I know exactly. You mean of course. Yeah.
He is Thomas J. Burrell, the founder and chairman emeritus of
a rail communications group, one of the first black owned and
operated advertising firms in the country, started in 1971. to
target the african american market for rail Communications
has conducted advertising campaigns for such major brands
as Marlboro, McDonald's, Coca Cola, Johnson products and
Verizon, and helped revolutionize the image of
African Americans in television advertising. He was inducted
into the American advertising Federation Hall of Fame in 2005.
And since retiring from Burrell communications, he has used the
information he acquired during his 45 years in the advertising
business to address some of the major challenges facing African
Americans today.
Yes, I remember the agency Burrell McBain that was that was
the agency that was this famous famous agency and they were
actually competitor to my company at the time because we
were with Omni calm. And they sold to publicists. Yes. A
legend a legend in advertising.
Click clear winner. Ah, he won a clear thing back in 77. With a
McDonald's spot with
McDonald's he sold McDonald's That's right. That's right.
Remember that?
Which makes me look at him sad. I mean, my Boulais Oh meter. I
got it all fired up. But when I started to look into the
Burrell, um, advertisement on the community, excuse me and
communications. They did an ad for McDonald's recently. It was
called the good fight. And instead the spot featured a real
life boxing coach and his daughter. As he literally puts
her through the paces with the message that better does not
happen overnight. And it goes on down and said this but it says
at the parallel McDonald took their classic chicken nuggets.
to the next level by taking out artificial flavors, colors and
preservatives. It says the Spa also aired on the 2016 Olympics
and Rio missed the black girl magic. So here we have it. We
can't have a black father and a black son going through the
paces. Also questioning him like okay, for 45 years, you sold
these little nuggets with artificial flavoring and
coloring in it. So I'm just saying I'm just, I gotta be
fair, when I when I look at that, look at these people.
Well, we're gonna let him speak. And he has some valid points to
make one being on the false advertisement of race. That's
the
topic of his new book, brainwashed, challenging the
myth of black inferiority, which was recently published by smiley
books. Welcome. Good to be here. Sure. Tom, in your book, you try
to answer a question that has bedeviled many people before
you. Which is why do African Americans continue to lag behind
other groups in so many aspects of American life? And your
conclusion is an intriguing one, that a 400 year old marketing
campaign to promote white superiority and black
inferiority has resulted in a deep seated internalized black
inferiority complex that is keeping African Americans from
achieving many of their goals. This is the brainwashing you're
talking about in your book.
Yes, sure, all. America has been sold a bill of goods through
false advertising. The Myth of black inferiority, The Big Lie,
that there is an inherent inferiority that exist within a
race of people. That is something that has been created
in order to justify originally justify slavery within their
democracy. And we see it borne out every day, from morning till
night. Throughout our media media is the major carrier of
the message. That media is the message.
Oh, hey, wait a minute, is he flip flopping? Now? What's he
doing? He's like, Hey, by the way, all that stuff, all that
stuff I did. That was really by it. And someone else did it. I
guess.
Now he went, Okay, let me explain to you. Let me grab my
bull a cat back here. All right.
Right, okay. All right. Wow,
I got it. You look so powerful, right?
He looks so powerful. Mr. Mobley,
thank you. Thank you. Um, what the Boulais tries to do here is
that the 45 years of aiding and abetting the system that we
spoke about, which, let's be honest, here, white supremacy,
as we define on this show, the system at the 40 values of
supporting aiding and abetting it, and even though what she
said in his bio revolutionizing how blacks have seen an
advertisement, not even say positive, negative, but he just
revolutionized it.
So the census is revolutionizing either way. Sure.
Right, right. Either way, he didn't, he didn't really say,
trying to
do that. That bleh had on keep keep the Boulay head on. Yeah.
So what I have to do is say this. See, Adam, my children are
don't suffer from the black inferiority complex you see
here. So I want to point out, they're different than those
common black folks. Okay. I got it.
And so I had to do this sweet little trick here where I won't
point back to the history of the television to now. I'll jump all
the way back to slavery. You said you say he's absolved
himself or any responsibility. Yes. I say oh, slavery is not no
bother not being in the home. We still need you poisonous food,
like with the bliss, bliss point. This out is music,
television. No, it's not none of that, Adam. So I'll take my
bootleg hat off. That's what he's trying to take
your hat off and I just came up with a Well, I'm a conspiracy
therapist. So I'm analyzing the situation. In 2013 Burrell I
think, bro communication so no longer bro. McBain but bro
communications launched rising tide, a aspirational social
network for millennials sponsored by tide. And I know a
little about tide. Ty Hamilton in in college my roommate he
taught me about tide. So is it possible though, that to flip
the tables and just kind of like a wink wink nudge nudge that he
continued with the tide account and created a covered camp Hane
that featured dumb shit white kids eating Tide Pods. Do you
think that that could have been something he had up his sleeve?
I'll have to look into that quite possible. But what me when
you say rising tide? Oh, yeah, no, my daughter.
I know isn't. Remember that's
the nonstarter that, you know, this is where this is where
they're antiquated. This goes to show you that their mom says
antiquated is not meant for the 21st century, the guy is what
they have to do is go back and rewrite history. As we've seen
with gunslingers. Everything else is like, no, no, no, no,
no, it wasn't the Coca Cola and Marlboro. Of course, all the
things that we saw in the black community is slavery. That's the
problem.
He's which, yeah, go ahead. Yes. So
it is a claim. Now then people say, well, well, no, you're pro
rhetoric. That's because it's a legal claim there. What I'm
saying is that, and I've said this before, and I'll say it
again, I don't care how much people get upset. The narrative
of slavery is just as dangerous as the act itself, because it
feeds into self victimization,
get bombarded us with images of carrying out this whole myth of
black inferiority, daily Arlie by the minute, constantly
reinforcing it in all these different ways that we talk
about, and in the in the book, and these are the kinds of
subtle images that we're constantly being
bombarded with. And basically, they've been effective is what
you're saying
they have been, it's the it is the most effective advertising
campaign in the history of this country, the myth selling the
myth of blacks being inferior. And that's, that's part of the
brainwashing,
but that's not but that part is not necessarily coming from the
white culture isn't it's not coming from the black culture.
Well, the thing the thing about brainwashing Scherl is that once
a principle of brainwashing is that the brain washed, becomes
the brain washing
become the brain washer, okay, right. The hurt,
hurt the the abused become the abuser, that is a that is a
natural component of brainwashing. And so, in all
these areas, we, at some point in our history have taken on our
own victimization. We take it over,
Man, this guy, not only he's still doing this, his he still
has a foreign agency that is driving change for social
justice inequality and protecting our green spaces.
Right, but the self victimization like it that's
what does it that feeds itself? Yeah.
You could probably program it was some colors.
What? But isn't that rigor we call my control? Yes. And can we
say these kinds of things? That's totally now but we have
somebody behind the curtain. Tom Maria was in those rooms making
no decisions on what images to show black people what would
resonate with black people? You know, so he's part of the
problem. But I now think with any booth, a member, they get a
guilty conscience, they need to rewrite history, they get into a
we all do it when we get old, you know, we want to write our
wrongs. But at the same time, he didn't want to take the
responsibility for his actions. So they want to jump all the way
back back slave labor, is it? Yeah, it's always back to
slavery. It's like, no, let's start with Wow, wow, from
slavery to the 1950s that we drive,
he wants to systemic he wants to get away from it to his part of
it, obviously.
Well, it's two things. One, he wants to get away from it, but
also to he doesn't want his children to bear the weight of
blackness. You're gonna come to find out a lot of people don't
want to use and carry that term black anymore. And what comes
along with it. So if you had to Boulais pulling away from the
common black people or the ordinary black people, then
you'd have black women pulling away from black men like oh,
they're the prop the other ones really killing each other. Not
us. Let us in the whiteness. Yeah, and when I'm talking I'm
not talking about you everyday running the mill. Black women
I'm talking about that Colvin that you're saying Can cockpit.
Oh, yeah, we want a female vice president. That's what we really
want. That's really going to show the change that they want
to pull away from blackness. That's the thing and the rich
want to pull away from blackness. And now all you have
left is this subset of black men. It's like oh, yeah, let's
Yeah, let's use them.
natter still useful. Yeah, yeah. Jeez, well, so, yeah, but this
is it is so it's like you gotta you gotta laugh. But you know,
the Black Twitter of course I get I got great Twitter, man, we
got to really examine some, some black advertising, because I
look I work with this guy's agencies and you know, I I'll
find out what account it was we had some cross work. So I had a
pretty big company back in the 80s 90s. But now we really and I
feel very responsible for some things, MTV for sure. But we got
to look at what some of these AdWords because McDonald's is so
much incredibly, you know, imagery
brands, Coca Cola, yeah. Yep. Diabetes. Yeah. McDonald's,
diabetes, hypertension, Marlboro lung cancer. I think there was a
alcohol company and I'm not mistaking. I don't put that on
my phone. Not for sure. I'm just saying but look at all these
companies to advertise for, to what to market to black people
that lead to comorbidities that leave us right for when a
pandemic comes. This is what happens. So the blood is on your
hands. I don't want I don't want to put this on you. It is what
it is. And then you have the only way you can exist as a
black man now in America is to be afraid of your life. Be
afraid for your life. Check it
out. Planned Parenthood is one of their clients. McDonald's
You're right. What is this Seagram escapes?
Liquor Store also, they're literally cirrhosis of the
liver. Coca Cola, glut holism
GlaxoSmithKline. That's the that's the remedy to the shit
you get from the other clients.
Exactly. So it's self feeding.
But here it is infinity LGBTQ X I'm sorry. XFINITY Xfinity LGBTQ
is a is a Comcast channel I guess. Huh? Yeah, okay. So we
need to do if this is going to be a 13 hour show this is just
too good this stuff okay.
I don't mean to drag it out. But let's let's get into his his
take on studs and slips.
Another area you talk about is relationships between black men
and women and family dynamics. Certainly, relationships between
black men and women are known to have been troubles. African
Americans certainly have a lower marriage rate than any other
group we have a lack of stable families which has a big impact
on both black children and adults. You say that this is
partly the result of popular culture which promotes black men
as roots and black women as slips the studs and slips
campaign. So you fast forward 400 years and this theme seems
the studs Institute sluts theme seems to be carried out
certainly, in the music videos are produced and acted in by
black people.
Yes. Yes. And it's you know, it's really I want to believe
that it's, it's not a malignant kind of intention. I believe
that it's insensitive, we have been conditioned to victimize
ourselves with the use of the N word denigrating misogyny
denigrating our women killing each other. This is part of the
conditioning that nobody wants to talk about.
Oh, MO Yes,
now I feel it now I see now I see why
yeah
Dan blew my mind that blew my mind.
Out of one question. Do you know what the number one song in the
country is right now was yeah, maybe we could go I
mean, what it was or what Whap you tell me mo
and does that not align with the studs and sluts?
That is the narrative Yes, Cardi B for anybody who was not hip
and Megan and Megan the stallion all make negative
style some of the valleys and like I said, I don't I'm not I'm
not easy to make blush. But I finally heard it like on the
radio. I'm like
the lyrics I mean, forget the video. The lyrics are I mean,
that's not just suggestive. And and why girls will defend it
and why presidential candidates will go talk to these people.
Bernie Sanders, you're right.
And Joe Biden.
You know what the, when I called out a couple of my, my favorite
millennials, white girls. And I said, Why is this? Okay? They're
what they said back to me. Fair enough, was we've been hearing
the same crap from black men for years. Fair point.
Don't don't make it right.
Don't No, of course two wrongs don't that makes everything
right now and in America, but yeah, doesn't make it right.
You're absolutely right.
And Nick, and this is the point of women and society, the point
that makes them so important, and devalue, you know, they make
us civil. As we talked about the Wild West, it was like, who had
the fastest gun, you know, it's never to take and we're gonna
take it, women keep us civilized, in a way, helps, you
know, they keep us from that caveman mentality, hopefully.
Because they, you know, they say The Hand That Rocks, the cradle
rules the world. So a mother teaches you a don't know, take,
say Be nice, please, those kinds of things. So if you're raised
up in a Whap household, yeah, Jesus Christ without a father.
And do you wonder, you wonder why. But don't take my word for
it. Listen to white Mike.
Now in this time, I learned a lot of beautiful things about a
lot of beautiful people. I learned a lot of ugly things
about myself. And I learned a lot of dark things about the
nation in which we live. But I also learned that I being white
Mike, specifically, the white part, have a lot of power.
White. Mike has a question today. And that's this. How come
when you turn on the radio in Jacksonville, or New Orleans, or
Chicago, or Little Rock? The only people on the radio that
talks about how great it is to kill each other? Or black? How
come that exist? 15 stations on a dial go up go down. The only
people on the radio bragging about getting automatic weapons
gunning each other down are black. This right here is a
song. My pastoral vocabulary won't let me read the title. But
I will read this catchy young black male not paying attention
that the red light with your AK 47 Let me see you shoot it.
You're a killer. You're a killer. You're a killer. You're
a killer, black male. Let me see you prove it. Why does this
exist?
Yeah, white Mike. I had not heard of white Mike. He looks
pretty interesting.
So this is my mic with Reverend Michael Smith. And he's from the
TED TEDx Jacksonville. He's a pastor. And he was the white guy
in a predominantly black environment. So somehow white
Mike is the thing and most black communities there in the White
might I don't know what is. I think it stems from the wham
brothers show because they had my right wing.
Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. I remember that.
I mean, he he jokingly refers to himself as White might because
they were like, it was several mics in the church. Anyway, have
you seen mine and they've liked who and they didn't know his
last name. So it kind of stuck. But he brings up valid points.
Why is it that this kind of boy guarantee I'm not gonna go
there. This is another show for another day that vulgarity and,
you know, the sex sexualization, but the murder? Yeah, in one
breath, and he broke up, bring up a great point about, um,
young white females. How one minute they'll have Black Lives
Matter on you know, all on their tick tock. Yeah. And then the
next minute, they're dancing to walk them down, which is a very
popular song now talking about how one black man walks down on
another black man with the chopper. If you don't know what
chopper it is the AK 47 se na da is not good enough. You got to
walk them down. They'll dance to that. Do choreography to that
but then tell you Black Lives Matter? Are these people sick? I
ask that in all seriousness,
well, it you know, this, this, of course, started well, hip hop
started nice and kind of, you know, kind of like friendly.
And, you know, it was a hip hop to the hip to the hibbett of hip
hop. You don't stop rocking. It was like that. Right? And then
it just, you know, I think if I think because MTV, I'm trying to
think if we did didn't real gangster rap. It just seems it
was kind of friendly.
Late at well, no, it was friendly. At first jokingly Will
Smith haha, right. Right, right. datas those kinds of things.
Yeah. And then public enemy comes along. Consciousness is
starting to bleed into and they're like, Oh, no. Oh, no, we
can't have that. We can poison poison the whale. And that's
exactly what you had. And that's why you heard I rang my bell
when Burrell He's talking. He's like, Well, you know, I don't
want to think it was, you know, done on intention. He didn't say
that I think. I think I've got the word he used, but basically
implying that he didn't want to step on his record industry
friends toes. He knows it was done by design. Isn't it
interesting that you can't post something on Twitter, about
hydroxychloroquine because it might might kill kill you. But
you can certainly post a snippet from any of these music videos.
Where it's literally literally, we're literally
people saying, I'm going to kill this guy, actual killing.
But let's just do a one to one correlation. Because if people
say Oh, well, that's you know, that's not the same false
equivalent, you can easily put your false equivalency so you
can easily post about drinking lane, which is prescription
Cossart. Nobody says anything. But if you talk about
hydroxychloroquine Oh, I'll take them now. To take him down.
Check him out now. Right. So why am I brings up the question is,
where are the killer whites?
I'll take it even further. Because a lot of time racism
exists in what we in what we don't know what we don't see.
Where are the white killers on the radio? Where are the white
ak 47 shooters? Where are the white drug dealers? Where are
the white people on the radio that brag about what it's like
to murder witnesses before trial? The truth is they don't
exist. And the question is why? Why don't they exist? Do white
people not kill people? Do white people not use AK 40 sevens to
shoot each other? I mean, we know do white people not do
drugs? And they're not do drugs? Of course they do. But why is it
that it doesn't make it to our mainstream radio? Why is it that
we don't hear it hundreds of times a day in hundreds of
cities across the nation 1000s of plays that say the idea that
a black guy would kill another black guy is something to be
celebrated. Something to be romanticized.
Yeah, true that through that,
just to make one point I'm white, Mike's on a roll so I
don't want to stop them too much. I just want to make one
valid point. Notice Eminem is his top surprise selling MC
right now over to pot. He didn't have the thug mentality. He
rapped about killing his mom and taking prescription drugs. It's
like no, if he if he if he rapped about the Post Malone.
Let's just use your sand. Who's popular now? He doesn't rap
about that
kind of stuff. No. So Right. So Right. Intention people pay
attention. He's
alright, thrill seekers.
And maybe that maybe it's because there's no white
audience for it. Or maybe it's because it's not really
marketable. Maybe because it's not good. Can't get sponsors. I
don't know why it is. Or maybe it's because it's just not the
white man's role. Or maybe when white people get up and talk
about being drug dealers and ak 47. Killers. Maybe it's even
sicker than that. Maybe when white people do it, they're
accused of acting black. The truth is in America, black
murder is normal. Black murder is normally the idea that a
black man or black woman would be involved in a homicide either
as a perpetrator or victim is so common, so broadly accepted that
basically goes unnoticed. The truth of the matter is black
families are affected by homicide rates of 10 times their
white counterparts. There will be more death in the form of
homicides involving black people this year than any other form of
violence that dominates our national conversation. More than
school shootings, mass shootings, mass shootings,
workplace shootings, lovers twist lovers trips that turned
violent and bloody even more than in war and in terrorism, no
one will lose their life in greater numbers. And then black
Americans involved in violence. You know, black murder in our
country is not only comes normally frequent, but it's an
idea that we celebrate it's an idea that we say is is okay. We
actually make heroes out of the notion heroes out of people that
trivialize and romanticize it. Every time I show this
information, people always say, Well, it's the number three
cause of death for white males. What is the number one cause of
death and without fail year after year, it's called
unintentional injuries, accidents, falling off a four
wheeler crash into, you know, a go kart or you know, bungee
jumping without paying attention to you know, knots and things
like that. So basically, the American story is white kids are
dying because they're clumsy, and black kids are dying,
because they're gunned down.
How old is this clip?
I think this is in 2000. Think 1716 I think somewhere around
here because
just headaches just because we're looking at you know how
media influences our thinking etc. And it may be a little
different. I'm not sure we're just want to put it a little
side note that fentanyl and opioid od I think is certainly
positioned in the media as a white person's problem.
It is but it's not nice. Cars of course is there but yeah, it is
it is but it's not but then they also just a side tangent on
that. Um, people will say oh, well, they don't want to
prosecute white people. No, they don't want to prosecute the
white Doctors did come from, you know, upper class. That's what I
mean if it was crank or meth or whatever, they allow everybody
up. But it's like, if you start talking about locking people up
for prescription drugs, a lot of wasps are going to jail. So it's
like, no, we don't want to go down that route. But I want to
make one point. He pointed out the accidental deaths, the
bungee jumping the ATV four wheelers. Sure skateboarding is
up there X Games, you know, behavior. That's thrill seeking
behavior, right? Young man, you know, pushing the boundaries, I
won't die. I mean, we have this, you know, we have this arrogance
and where you're young that you can't die. So you know, you push
it to the limit. Why is it that young black male can't have the
same mentality? It's a game to a lot of them. A lot of these kids
are not sociopaths. It's a game. It's Aha. You know, like, you
know,
when I tell you, No, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm sorry.
No, it's a bad habit, I'll tell you is like, I'm trying to kick
that. Lots of people have that one. Because we've seen more
shootings on TV. I know what you're talking about. Because I
see these kids, I'll just call them kids. I see these men,
mainly men. And they got you know, they got the Glock nine
with a huge magazine hanging out of that thing. And then like Pom
Pom, and they're shooting sideways. I'm like, and a lot of
it misses. A lot of it is just, it's just ridiculous. I hate
the, like cowboys and Indians but with live ammo. And yeah,
being too. It's our thing. It's LARPing. But it is also a thrill
seeking. Yeah, it's a very, very, very unsafe way of, of
thrill seeking. But yeah.
It's part of mechanisms, the mechanism now you have a one kid
that goes down a 50 foot ramp, you know, on a skateboard.
Right? Right. And then volley breakers MC, or you see me to
have MTV show that shows clip at the clip at a clip kids getting
their arm broke teeth knocking out, knocked out
the entire movies of white kids doing this.
Right. So I'm just what I'm saying is say it's the same
behavior. But the behavior manifests itself in a different
way of Let's Play this loud. Act, right live action roleplay
game of bugging. Yeah, you know, I'll pop shots your way you pop
shots my way, you know, we know and then but then it escalates
to what we talked about before it gets on the wire, and so on.
So punks, it gets serious. Yeah. Or you enter you counter, you
interact with the super predator, or a, b, and
unfortunately, this,
of course, but unfortunately, you know, sometimes you'll see
that some spectator got injured at a, you know, at some kind of
skateboarding competition or a motorsport event. But you rarely
hear about, you know, the baby in the crib at three in the
morning who got killed by the at the skateboarding event. That's
why of course, it appears different. But I'm going to I'm
going to agree with you. That for young men, yeah. It's it
that is happens to be their thrill, which we should probably
try and stop some of that.
Yeah, it's just I want to keep going. But you brought this up.
So I had to read about talking about on the show. But I was in
another part of Virginia meeting someone. And I walked into a
Wawa. And I'm like, Okay, I see two young black males, and they
were young. I mean, you could tell her young pants sagging,
tight jeans on with big ass pistols. Hey, I mean, not even,
not even a concealed just hanging out. So I'm, like, you
know, the talk that my dad had, he was and this is what, I'd had
to tell the story just for the talk. So I'm like, Okay, let me
keep my eye on these two. He was saying because he's shot
starting to pop off. I need to know where they're coming from.
And I need to know where my nearest exit is. I mean, this it
automatically just goes you know, you just trigger in. So
I'm getting my sandwich from Wawa.
I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with Wawa
it's like a gas station which has like a subway built into it
basically okay. Where it's like as you're gonna find in quote
unquote black communities certain Convenience stores are
the hotspot what you hear a lot of crime if I'm waiting to get
the drop on somebody. I know they got to come by beer a bunch
of cigarettes. So I'll just wait here. Now just call the god
yeah. Gotcha. Um, so I'm sitting here, I'm like, these boys can't
be 21 I mean, baby face with big ass guns. And so I hear a ruckus
at the door and I'm like, I'm like, Okay, I'm sliding to the
other exit. I'm like, I'm about to roll out without my sandwich.
Um, but it was this guy named Nick. I know nicknames now
because Nick, he's like, What are y'all doing out here like
this? He's like, you know, saying, dude, you're gonna be
like your brother. Big black guy. muscular, right? Plenty of
games. He's counseling these black kids football coach works
in correctional facilities, and hate and I'm like, after they
leave, I'm like, Man, I'm like, wow, that was the worst assault.
Right? That's great. I got Nick's number. So I'm gonna be
talking to Nick down the line. I just want to give some examples
as clove. They don't even care no more like the guns were just
like out like, what it was like Wild Wild West. I mean, that's
what you know. Like, wow, like, this is like real wild, wild
west. We blew my mind. But I just wanted to give that you
know, that anecdote, because it's real. It is real out here.
And you know, but I digress. But I sorry about that. But oh,
thank
you. That's, stories are great to hear.
All right. So um, let's get back to Donald Trump with number 27.
Now, we don't have maybe two shoes today. You can't get away
with it. Nobody, nobody will put out there. But we do have black
people to get on the radio every day in Why don't companies White
owned stations with white owned sponsors that play the role of
hyper sexualized, hyper criminalized male? I asked these
advertisers say I've got 102 songs a day that celebrate
killing animals, will you put them on your station? They said
no, I got hundreds of songs a day that talk about assaulting
women and abusing kids. Would you put them on your station?
They said no. I said I got hundreds of songs a day to talk
about murdering blacks. Would you put them on your stations?
They say Well, that depends. Depends on what who it's done by
and who it's branded for. Because we can get black folks
to sing about it. We can branded for our youngest black
audiences. I think there's money to be made. I think there's
American appetites to see these people that way. Yeah,
yeah, that's how I met when I wasn't invited that meeting.
So that's so sick,
you know that that's so sick. I'm sorry. I'm sure you've
you've read the story about Music Business Insider who
claims that all of this was predetermined, all the gangsta
rap, all the violence was was all set in motion by design.
I'm a believer of one meeting. No, no, it's not a series of
meetings and people need, you know, nudges that kind of thing?
Well, I just want to say because it's so hard for people to
believe that the media actually is controlled and has a message
that is determined, created or determined. It's determined, and
is and is intended to be sent down the line. And having worked
in many for big mainstream broadcast organizations,
including the one in that was definitely a part of this. Do I
think that anyone I really knew or interacted with knew about
some part of this big plan? No. But it was, hey, they want you
to do this or that? Who's they up the pursuits up at the
office, and you become desensitized to it? You do. I
mean, you just, I became desensitized to all kinds of
stuff. And certainly selling alcohol to a lot of children.
That was a big part of my job indirectly.
And we talked about this, the higher ups when we were talking
about COVID. You know, do this, put them on a ventilator? Who
told you to do is the higher ups you know, so it's not like
everybody that worked and worked it off. Philip Morrison are
these other cigarette companies were complicit, you know, I
mean, it's not. It's it's very just stay. So basically, when
you build a Kartell, it has to be compartmentalized. Yes. Where
everybody doesn't know everything. It's like, Just do
your job and trust the system.
Just system is true, but it works by broadcast television
works that way. And I'm not even saying the people up at the
office really had the whole the whole scoop on it. Lots of
influences in the music business. Lots of stuff
happening. You hear about how sex and drugs and yes,
blackmail, all that stuff, all of it. All of it happened. Pap
is
being it's being unveiled now it's being unveiled because of
so much
media. I mean now because of YouTube and because of well,
because of cameras, camera phones, and handheld devices.
Now I'm seeing you show me enough street brawls of of
people shooting at each other I don't like this this is and I'm
old enough. This is a bunch of damn kids and that yeah, they
play in them. It's real. But your point going back to the
start of it was not necessarily hardcore criminals, not little
yummies. It's a bunch of no dipshits with live ammo.
Generalization low and lows and no live ammo and low self esteem
is a deadly combination is a very, very deadly.
So good luck. Was it live ammo and low self esteem low self
esteem. That's so good. That's like, that's almost it's better
than under informed and over socialized? White
Alright, so um, I guess we can wrap up with Michael Smith, aka
white Mike, with 28.
I said, How can you say that? They said, well look at what
these artists know. It's what they black people create. It's
matter of fact, our survey say it's what they want to hear,
which speaks of a sickness, how do we live in a society where
somebody says, You know what, I'm inspired to write a song
that celebrates murdering another person. And then a
person says, I'd like to put that on my station or the
person, I'd like to pay for it. And then there's people out here
in the audience that go, I'd love to hear it. As long as it's
black guys, because even white people buy rap music, buy this
type of stuff. Because we know that when we want to hear about
killing each other, we know who to turn to, for that type of
inspiration. We call it our music. We say we own it. White
people buy more rap than black people. Yeah. But we're very
careful to turn it down at the stoplight when other black
people are there. Why? Because we know we're just pretending
for them. It's more authentic and real. I always ask the
company is what about your name? What about your brand? What
about your value, and the largest radio company in the
world said this, it's okay, that we only have drug dealers on our
black youth stations. We only have murders on our black youth
stations. We support black charities we give out water at
the Martin Luther King parade. I think we've got it covered. We
bought them off.
It never ceases to amaze me how you can take what I think I
already know about how the world functions, particularly the
United States. And blow my mind again, by showing me out by like
this is how big it really is. This is the real system in
place. This is not systemic racism. This is a systemic death
machine. That's just that's just churning all day. And it's too
big for us really to see right in front of our face.
You had to take a huge that back on a perch. Yeah. And like
surveyor from bird's eye view to see the whole system. It's all
big. To what and though it's ultimately in control of all of
us.
To what what is this all about? Now that black on black crime
has become such a hot button issue, that people that had to
have answers for it. Want to say it's a myth now? Oh, okay.
There's no such thing as black, black, black crime. That's
what's so fascinating to me. And I think why people continue to
respond negatively to that phrase, because it doesn't
exist. It's a myth. Right? Like, if you actually look at the
statistics, all violent crimes, the majority of violent crimes
in this country statistically happen in short, racially,
right? Because you actually have to look at what inspires crime.
And the majority of them happen with people who know one
another, or in close proximity and in communication, but in
community with one another. So this idea that there's something
uniquely pathological about black people and the way that
they commit crimes that is different than the way white
people commit crimes is it's flat out inaccurate and race.
Thank
you. It's a myth.
It's a myth. And well, no,
it's kind of interesting, because on the one hand, of
course, it's happening. On the other hand, is it any you know,
it's like saying, white guys aren't aren't hurting each other
and themselves on skateboards? You know, it. It's clearly
happening. It's just calling, but and you just said, Well,
they're not necessarily criminal. So is this killing a
crime? Or is just black on black killing?
You know, there's all I'm explaining to you how they're
doing. They're putting this in their 70s. Human pretzel? Yeah,
get around this black on black crime issue. They'll say, Well,
black people harm other black people at the same rate. What I
mean by rate percentage, you know, so 90% of the crimes
against black people are done by black people will they'll go to
white people and say, well, 90% of the crimes by white people
proximity, but we're not talking about the percentage of who the
victim and who the assailant is. We're talking about the volume
for us to only be 13% of the population and black men, only
six and a half percent. The volume of Black Death is
ridiculous. We'll see. They don't want to talk about that.
Because if you ask that question you got to add who's We run in
Baltimore, Chicago, Louisiana, Miami, all these different
places. And then it goes back spout politics at the end of the
day. So now the Democrat black Democrats and their flunkies
have to work themselves often under this pin down called black
on black crime. So it's now oh, there's no it's a myth.
Okay, all right, I gotcha cost. That's
why they don't want black men talking about it. Because when
we talk about it, we're gonna say, well, who's been in control
for the last few years and decades? How did he get to this?
No. And it's like, no, no, no, it's a myth. It's a myth, and
that's why they want to pivot to cops. It's like, oh, the cops
the cops are bad. We don't talk when I talk about black on black
crime anymore. It's a myth. And she's not only what that was for
HLN I was just gonna say Who was that? Who was that on HBO? I
don't know her name. She was a Black Lives Matter activists.
But I think maybe it's show her name. I looked it up we can find
it. But not only her. We have DL Hughley Sana same thing.
Every crime committed in the United States of America is two
to one, black to white, white to black. They actually have more
white on white crime than black on black crime. But when you
call it black on black crime, that gives them marching orders,
never gives them a call to arms. So now they can come and brutal
because there's a sense of urgency. You'll hear black
people saying all black on black crime that didn't exist. It
exists there has to be Asian or Asian, or Latin. Aladdin crew.
Absolutely. Crime is about proximity. You heard the ones
you love because you close to them. If you take any any living
organism, and you put it in a small space with limited
resources, it will kill anything around it. Yeah, black on black
crime is nothing but that is biology that she just happened
on your lawn right now with weeds in the grass, fighting for
resources, but you believe that you are inferior, because they
tell you a success thing is black on black when
you see the treatment plan and guess who DL Hughley worked for
a major radio company? I'm sure that they peddle in blacks,
smart music, smart music. I mean, it's not me excuse me
snuff music? Oh, excuse me? Yes. Well, it can be smart, too. It
depends on like snuff? Yeah, yes. Black snuff music? I mean,
he won't call it out. Because then he has to call out his
sponsors and the record labels and all that. So now and then
the politicians like where are y'all at when is going on? So
now it's like, Oh, it doesn't say snug. I want to break down
the math right quick. He says one on a two out of every three
crimes are two to one is black, white to black. So every for
every three crowns to two are done by white people don't know
why we are done by black people. We're only 13% of the
population. I mean, I know a little bit about math to tell
you that it's way out of proportion.
Calling it snuff songs is a very good is a very good idea. If you
say snuff film, people freak the fuck out. That's a snuff,
Snowflake, snowflake snuff film, to say to snuff song? Is what
the hell was that? What do you think of when snowflake? Well,
that's really Yes, this is That's enough songs, go listen
to it, listen to it, listen to it, listen to it. I just wanted
to say we need to use that or something like it's not a great
word. It triggers people, it could be useful.
I'll make it I'll make a note of that. Because that's exactly
what it is. That's what comes to mind. Like I said, that's what
comes to mind when I hear it. Now, I'm not saying that. I
don't enjoy rap music, but I have a mature enough mind. And I
had a two parent household to wit and tolerated. So obviously
it tells me something's not right about it. But you know
what, it's still enjoyable. But it was still the balance there
to say, hey, it's something I'd write about it because I got to
listen to my Walkman and not in the car with my mom and dad.
Right? You know, I mean, there's that balance there. Why can't
you like, why can't you like Lionel Richie? He's such a nice
young man.
Richie, well, yes, that's, that's what it is. And I've know
I've been building up to this. And we're gonna get to what the
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Well, this is the portion of the show that we get to discuss the
gender war that's going on going on months amongst so called
black people. Okay. And to set that up, we have to go back to
show 38 is a throwback clip. And this is from the Washington
Post. And this is the black women from black ink. I mean
make that clear. Telling body you need black women voters.
Vice President Biden you need us you owe us remember,
black women are miracle workers.
We have been saving the Democratic Party since 1965 2020
is no different. Your only path to victory is through black
women,
the voters who need to turn out, we know how to mobilize them.
Our votes must not be taken for granted.
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America needs a black woman vice president
candidates like Amy Klobuchar will not energize us.
America needs a black woman's
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America needs more in a comprehensive Black Agenda.
The rules are rigged against our communities.
Wow, who put that together?
This is the Washington Post and it had all that yes, I remember
it was who it was the Angela MRI. The lady from Black? Black
votes matter? Yeah. A lot. A lot of bool. A lot of the Black
Witch Coven in Hollywood, the Boulais Broadcasting
Corporation. Yeah, so one reason why I had to set this up using
this clip is they gained so much clout and leverage from the
black dead body of George Floyd. Every minute that cops knees
stayed on George Floyd's neck, their value and leveraging went
up. And this is the grant X they use from that leverage. Not
criminal justice not you know, killing black men. None of that.
We want a female black president. I mean, our Vice
President. Well, you know what, it's a Freudian slip, but it
might be accurate because Joe Biden's conviction. I think
that's why I keep I keep I keep wanting to say it I think you
know, the truth wants to come out. Exactly. But black female
Supreme Court Justice is black female, there's black female
that stuff. Now you're using the leverage of a dead black man on
the street caught on film being a brutally murdered, allegedly.
I mean are you know, I mean, I know for legal reasons. We had
to, you know, say say things a certain way. But every like I
say every minute that needs stayed on that neck, their value
went up and they're like, we're gonna capitalize on this and go
for the big ask. And that's what they that's what they came up
with nothing contributing to the plight of black men nothing
contributing to the environments that cause the What we've laid
out as black on black crime. Now we want to rise the female vice
by black female vice president. That's what we want. Not even a
black vice president. They didn't go there. They were just
like, we want a female. Yeah. So what this what you're seeing is,
black women are becoming their own demographic, separate from
black men and power base and power base, but only one they
may want it miscalculation, their understanding of math. And
it's the same one as us on black on black crime. What do they
say, Hey, we vote 1990 95% into voting. are black women vote
democratically? Yeah, but you don't have the volume. You need
the black male vote, the volume of votes to make action happen.
And black men are saying no, no, no, no, no, we're tired of being
used. This is what you're witnessing right now. And I
found an interesting clip from Dr. T. Hassan Johnson, this is
another brother on YouTube. But he's a professor, very
informative. And he coined this term, I've never heard it
before. I looked all over, I never heard anybody else. Use
it. So if you hear anybody else use it, we got to give this
brother credit for it. And it's called the COC you serve.
So as you can see today, and we're talking about the reality
of black men's disposable role as CompuServe. So I've covered
this in another show, the whole concept of khaki serves is
bringing together two basic ideas, the concubine and the
surf. And this, in many ways has to do with the social
expectation of black men, both in the largest society, but more
particularly within black America. The idea that black men
are not only disposable, but their roles are to serve as
sexual concubines, as well as serfs, right, who are really
just designed to serve you lift bear that tote so on and so
forth. The disposability, right, so the idea of the coffee serve,
and how our lives and our deaths can be taken for taking for
granted. We don't talk as much about our lives, because there's
all kinds of consciousness contestation and shaming that
goes on, we talk about what black men experience in their
own community. Right. But it but it's clearly evident in our
deaths, how we're perceived, and how our deaths are often used
for everybody's advancement, but black men themselves. And one of
the biggest indicators of that is how much policy has been
developed in the last few decades to stem the tide of
those deaths. Right. Very little. And yet and still, the
social expectations play on. Wow,
no, I have not heard CompuServe. Now, if you had to define
CompuServe, how would you now define that?
Okay, so black man have two purposes. For these class of
people, either were used for sexual purposes. That's why, you
know, you know, you know, this stereotype, whether it's true or
not, and then basically, slaves do this, fix this. Shut up,
don't make any noise. Basically, the underclass were the were the
floor of the floor. And that I say that in all seriousness, and
these black eight women, you hope to use, like I said that
the only value George Floyd could bring into this world is
dying. That's it.
Yeah. Where does the con Q come from?
Kochi buy from concubine. Yeah. And then serve?
As Yes. S E RF. Yes, I got it.
Yes. So when he coined this term, this is what turned my
whole show. Just so
people know. I'm sorry. I just want people to understand that
not everyone knows concubine. Just want to give you the bond
is like a great place. It's a woman who lives with a man, but
has lower status than his wife or wives.
So that goes to the point that we're not good enough to be
husbands. Yeah. But to be flaunted as sick, and there's
this weird parallel between the white woman and the black man.
We're kinda in the same position in our respective races, because
I told you we live in a matriarchy. Why society is the
patriarchy, black society is a matriarchy. So black men are
expected to behave the same way. As in Oh, and I'm generalizing
here a lot. But the same docile, be quiet the same way white
women are expected to be portrayed to be, you know, like
the, you know, you know, they say white women you know,
they're very very submissive, that kind of thing. Black men
are expected to be that counterpart on the black side.
So that's where the khaki serve comes from. Got
it? Got it. Wow.
So when I heard this clip, it illustrated and encapsulated
everything I want it to say. And I was like, You know what I had
to show done. I had to show right when I called you. Yeah, I
was like, ready to roll? And then I heard this, and I was
like, No, you got to tear all the way down. Yeah, it's far
more important to have this nice done. Oh, people are saying,
well, Mo, that's kind of far fetched. What are you saying?
What I'm saying is, black men are used for sacrifice. For
other demographics to progress into whiteness.
Black men are used for sacrifice for other demographics, to what?
progress into whiteness. So these group of women, they're
trying to get into whiteness. So it's like, yeah, we'll use the
same way Democrats used to use black people. It's just, it's
just internally now. You know, there were for Queens there,
blah, blah, blah. They're this they're that they're illiterate,
you know, poor poor, black people, poor black people, white
white Democrats used to do that. But now as black women have
blacking let me be clear, because a lot of sisters out
here their allies. And I want to point out and if you look at our
donation list, I think a lot of women get it. Yes. Because we
have a very balanced support. Yes, I agree. So I want to make
that clear. But what I'm saying is, it's very beneficial. Now,
it's like you hear him say, we're the most educated
demographic there is. Notice they separate themselves out.
Oh, it's the black men killing black men and black men or white
men, white black men are the white people, or black people,
you hear these terms thrown out,
all we need. And that's all we need is to hear? Well, you never
seen black women kill Black women do you?
That is coming is coming. So I have Reverend and white Mar. And
he speaks on the ritual sacrifice Black Heritage Trail
of image.
So this lecture focuses on the ritual sacrifice of black men in
particular, as an instrument for creating a cohesive and unified
body of people called white. So in this development of the
screen of racial contempt, that I'm calling the first stage of
sacrifice. While it certainly includes the murder of African
Americans, it was, it was the murder of their humanity. In the
eyes of European Americans, that was sacrificed in the
development of white identity, more than just the basement, it
was the symbolic murder of their identities offered up in order
to engender another identity. So Rene Girard writes, the purpose
of sacrifice is to restore the harmony to community to
reinforce the social fabric, and that the common denominator that
exists between behind all sacrifice is internal violence.
And the dissensions, the rivalries, the jealousies, and
the quarrels of the community, by design, are suppressed by
sacrifice,
and slow.
So what they're saying is, if no black men are put on the altar
to sacrifice, I'm not just talking about physically murder,
but the image, you know, the stereotypes, all of that if a
novice put up there, it will bring harmony, because then they
can say, Oh, well, that's not us. We're not like them. Right?
You know, and as they progress into whiteness, what we've
described whiteness to be is nothing but what the Wasp set as
the model for how the world should operate, aka white
supremacy in a western Western society.
Girard isolates three distinct bodies within the community, the
model, the rival, and the ritual victim. And he sees within the
community a driving function of competition, and the potential
for violence. So the model in our case, the plantation elite,
or elite whites, are in possession of an object, they're
in possession of something. And then political realm, we might
think of the soleus capital. But if we think of it more broadly,
they're really in possession of something called YT which stands
for all sorts of things, concepts of election purity,
goodness, and Providence. And I was doing research and widen
your library and Harvard and they, they had this book and it
had something like the 23 races of English people, which which
sounds Surprising, right? But not really, right? But it all
feeds into that chain moving towards the Elite model, the
person who is holding the desirable quality at the top
now, elites are able to generate allegiance and they are able to
generate disciples by making whiteness a desirable quality.
Oh, hey. So
do you think that there must be black women who are thinking
Hold on a second? What's going on here? How can we leave in all
those men behind?
Yes it is but then you know they're told Shut up snow
sister. How dare kid you not support your other sisters
unless use Kamala Harris as a as a as a case study. How does how
does she make her bones?
Strong black, black men in jail.
We heard on the last show or a couple shows ago she locked up
innocent black man had no evidence against them. And it
goes to show you look, look at me pick me. I can I can I can do
it just as good as a white man can do. Or what's perceived
missing an axis of a white man? I mean, just saying by the
standard of society, right.
But but she Okay, first of all, karma is? Yeah, she identifies
as Black doesn't quite have the same history as a docile woman.
Hmm. So are they just are they just had they just been
hypnotized?
Mine. And I told you at the beginning, very first show is
ego.
It's just so hard to believe. It's horrible. Yeah.
It's not really if you we talked about how Black Lives Matter.
founders have daddy issues? Yeah, a lot of these women.
Kamala Harris has daddy issues as it's playing out in the
media. Yeah. So I'm not saying that. They're just, they're just
latching on to this. I mean, dryly they have been the man,
they have
the same issues because of the same problems, only their issues
manifest differently.
Exactly. Okay. And what a manifest is, you know what, I
can use black bodies to get ahead. To get ahead. They
they're doing the exact same thing the founding fathers did
when they created America, it wasn't that personal. Don't take
out natural resources on his land. And they're saying the
same thing. Well, we have all these black criminals, we might
as well put them to good use. Let's let's get with the media
running on them and run it on the media. Make black men
violent make black men, the source in the vein of all, all
the things that troubled us, put them on the sacrificial altar,
slay them, and then we can have harmony. Yeah.
I hear you, I hear you. Okay.
Sorry. Well, we would we stop, they don't,
it can only go downhill from here. We striving for whiteness,
okay.
For whiteness. Okay. Replacing the model
was created as a belief system on the desire of an object
embodied by the plantation elites, or by the elites in
general. And by model had meant being closer to God, the rival
the second group that you are speaks of are the European
American masses, who tried to possess this whiteness as an act
of mimicry. By desiring what the model desires, what the elites
have, because so much as I want it, they have power. To me
wanting it gives them stature. Us Magazine, People Magazine,
cultivate the culture of celebrity because it gives the
system more power. Same with the Oscars. Same with all that
Gerard warns us that the desires of the rival, the second group,
where the masses will grow, the desire will grow until there is
violence induced by that competition that's there. The
nature of the system is that it wants us to desire but it
doesn't want us to go too far. Because if we want to too much,
eventually we will try to knock over we will try to kill the
model so that we can replace the model.
Ooh, there's there's your riots. Yes,
there it is. There it is. We're that's the world we're past that
phase. Really. That's
it Same but that's where we're at. Yeah, that's that's where
we're at. And, you know, who do you have out in those groups?
You have the feminists you have the you know the Marxists you
have the every other ethnic group. And they're all
protesting on what the back of their sacrificial black men
Yeah. But they want to replace the model. It's not that we want
to create our own and no crater on black community or on
whatever fill in the blank community is that we want to be
accepted and raised to the level of the model, which is Anglo,
you're saying why Anglo Saxon Protestant? Elite? Right. And if
sick thing is whiteness? Is there a god? Yeah, well, that
Yeah.
I'm kind of speechless. That's what you're hearing is me. Just
I just don't know what to say. Yeah,
I wasn't saying way. I mean, I had to process Yes, like,
because at the end of the day, if you can identify as a woman
first, as a gay first, as it transfers
Oh, Schnapp that just hit hard. One of the most successful black
men in show business is RuPaul.
Right, but that's how you I'm a gay black man. What's that
Porter? Porter, he'll tell you that it'll be Porter. Billy
Porter, he'll tell you that I'm gonna get I'm a gay but I'll put
that first. Gay first black and the man. So we already know this
attack on man. But I'm just saying that the stain for the
model is that I want to emulate the model. Yes. And to emulate
it, I have to show you how well I can do what the model does.
How well I could play inside the system. That's why you see the
sorrel sisters. I've coined that term to you a long time ago.
Yeah, the reason why I say that is these women want to
illustrate to the powers that be I can do the job just as good or
even better than a white da.
I think I even heard Dvorak use the term source. He I think he
said Soro sister, but he, yes, er, I did hear I did hear good
work.
But that's what they're doing. And then whatever you have to do
from there, they have to pick a victim.
So the system doesn't want us to go too far. So it needs to find
a way to blow off steam through the process. They don't want to
get rid of that intra community violence, but they just want to
deflect it before it reaches the doors of the elites. So to
deflect the violence that ultimately arises out of the
competition, there needs to be a ritual victim, which is the
third group. Someone who is marginal within the community,
who does not represent a real threat of reprisal, who can't
attack the system back. The dangers in this society are
projected onto that victim. Yeah. Now who,
what was the guy's name again, Gerard was?
Gerard, let's say, historian that he's referring to. I can
get you his name after the show. But this the speaker is Reverend
I in May. And white Mar. Okay. You have it's amazing. The we
had her two men on the call white men in the cloth
illustrating the black problem, clearer than the people that are
supposed to be speaking for us. Yeah, that happened. Yeah.
Well, how does that happen?
It happens by design is how it happens. Yes. I mean, that's the
punch line. And I know people are saying, Wow, that sounds
crazy. What are you saying? So what I'm saying one of the
exoteric you know, politically they're sacrificing black men
the image of black men. They say trans men, trans women are the
victim or the victim of black men. Black women are the victim
of black men. Black children are the victim of black men. Black
men are the that victim of black men. And the only way you can
survive in this is if you two aren't six foot eight 260 pound
black man like LeBron James and you're running around the street
scared for your life. That's the only way you could function is
to study.
Well, I think you're doing pretty well as a podcaster
Yeah, it gets deeper than that. Because
you're gonna you're gonna hurt something now, aren't you? This
is always the end. Yeah. All right. tarp is ready. Oh,
I have a podcast that features Minister brat aka bad news. He
speaks about the witchcraft and gangbanging,
I was dating a young lady in my neighborhood and are coming to
find out this used to have a grandmother stayed with the
grandmother, people in caskets on the wall. And obviously it
was all these people in these caskets, they say they just
family members, one time a grandmother came home and they
started putting a black sheets on the wall over the glass and
over the window. I say what they do and they say we're gonna have
a seance that I want to say, I say, No, I don't do seances. But
I come to understand why my neighborhood was so cold. As I
look back, and I'm physically cold, you feel physically cold.
Maybe I use maybe you say I use I feel death. Yes was right. It
was a sphere of death in this neighborhood. And now I know why
the grandmothers was witches. The Grandmothers was doing
seances as I look back into the image, right? Well, I understand
now why the grandmothers say You better go kill the boys. You
better go get the grandma Ranbir because grandmother guys, you
somebody could kill y'all better go kill y'all better go get
them. And what type of witchcraft were they involved
in? Well, I say I say I say Jesus grandmother that we wait
to walk across three goats run to the store for doing say, go
to church went to church.
This is this is very disturbing.
And they you wonder why you hear cases of a woman lose three four
sons that gun violence, we really had to investigate those
cases. There's a there's a spiritual thing going on a
spiritual component of this. And I illustrated it way back in
show 26 With a growing number of black women leaving the church
for witchcraft, witchcraft.
Growing numbers of African American women in Maryland and
across the nation are leaving traditional church worship. All
of them are in search of something else, a spiritual
belief that connects them to their ancestors, and where they
can feel more empowered to control their own well being.
They have found it in ancient forms of spiritual contact. Some
call it witchcraft, a term they accept and embrace. For most of
us, this is how we worship a tradition that predates us all.
This to is an ancient art of worshipping not to God the
Father, Son and Holy Ghost, but to spirits and deities that span
the oceans and deep back to pre slavery days in Africa. Are you
in fact witches?
Um, whatever the situation calls for. So if you come to me with
pleasantries, you being respectful, you'll get Glinda
the Good Witch of the suburbs, but if you come at me with
negativity, and meanness and disrespect thing, you will get
Evaline your worst nightmare?
Oh, yeah, this was episode 26 For anybody who wants to get
freaked out all over again.
And how and I had an epiphany. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead.
Give me my epiphany afterwards. So do you remember how old she
was the woman speaking at the end? She sounds Oh, these women
these women are in their late 20s early? The millennials
right? Yeah. And they picked it up when they left the church
went off to college and learning these universities
yeah
Evany was this Yes. And people that know anything about hip hop
will know this. Though same cloth is in basements that these
women were doing seances in that Minister Brett refer to are the
same causes in basements that their grandchildren record hip
hop music you know, it's it's spells spell spell smell Sam,
but those same spirits might be dwelling? Yeah, those same
spaces because I know when we used to record you had to had to
do the basement or you had to do like, no like a closet or
something.
Ah,
do we do Theramin? Not really.
Go ahead. Oh, man needed theremin. What is next?
Okay, well, we're winding it up here and people. I like that
theory. I like that theory. That's a good one. Okay, what
are we? What do we got now?
There's only one way to introduce this next guest and
people have been asking about him. And it's his first
introduction to the MO FX podcast with Adam curry. Bishop
Larry gators.
I am a type of a man that's been called by God to fully
decapitate the system. of the left. And what I want to talk to
you about today, brother Alex and to your listeners all over
the world is this topic entitled the coming destruction of Black
Lives Matter. Now, the three founders on brother Alex of
Black Lives Matter they are witches. Listen, I have no
sympathy for the lead. I am a contract killer. For the Lord
Jesus Christ. My responsibility is to cut the hair off of not
just antiguo that is the military arm of Black Lives
Matter. But Black Lives Matter is the propaganda arm of Antifa.
So you have three witches who created this terrorist
organization in 2013. Following the death of Trayvon Martin,
Alicia Garza, she is a member of Omega Phi Beta Patrisse Cullors.
She is a member also of omega fight betta and open to many
she's of Nigerian descent. She is a member of Alpha Kappa
Alpha, which means they're all apart by the Alex of the black
skulls and bones
Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, get the tar. Oh my goodness. So
that they're putting spells on everybody. You got to explain a
work of the biggest whether working through the biggest
spell caster is the media or the medium which what do you call
witches? And now if it's the witches, witches called mediums,
it's
important people understand this. Because when we and we
haven't gone off the rails all of a sudden like, oh, well, this
is it. It's witchcraft. That's the problem. No, no, it it is
truly a form of modern witchcraft.
It truly is. Yeah, especially when you fat in no SIBO effect.
And you keep saying no, this negative stuff and then it
presents itself now as soon as they start talking about black
cops shooting black cops shooting black people, more cops
shoot black people. How does that work? Well, Flacco demand
is like like on demand
coming, coming. from an advertising perspective. That's
actually how it works. If you show something over and over
again, is going to have an influence depending on how you
show it, what music you show it with how your cuts are made, how
your shots are positioned. It's i i have manipulated people's
thinking in in not necessarily derogatory way, but have created
illusions, illusions, magic, illusions, witchcraft, spells on
television, that there's okay, if anyone wants this is a very
odd been doing this for maybe 15 years. There's, you can find it
on I'm going to put it in the show notes. It's called the Zen
TV experiment. Have you ever heard of this? Mo?
No, I haven't. But I'm going to look it up soon as we descend
TV experiment, it goes back to I think this one December was
2009. And I don't know if this is even the first time it was it
just you should just do some you couldn't do with the television
or, or the laptop. But it just gives you a couple of simple
things to do. I'll show you. For instance, watch TV for 10
minutes and count the technical events. Technical events are
we've all seen TV cameras and banks and jewelry stores a
stationary video cameras simply recording what's in front of it
we'll call pure TV. Anything other than that is a technical
event, a camera zoom technical event, someone's profile talking
suddenly you switch to another person responding technical
event A cars driving down the road, you hear music playing
technical event, count the number of times as a cut, Zoom
superposition voice over parents of words on the screen Fade In
and Fade Out. All of those are technical events. They're
magical. They are illusions, call it that call it sorcery. So
much of what we're seeing, particularly now with handheld
cameras, directs the way the media uses the ad that type of
video sources. Narratives are set on eight seconds of video
shot from a window. This is all technical and broadcasts
sorcery.
And one final point I'd like to make is even the release of
information. Like you say it starts with the eight second
Yeah, and then it bleeds out that you know the full video and
then another angle of the video and then another angle and then
the context of the video those kinds of things. So yeah, it's
definitely and these women were arm in arm with their sisters in
the media. Yes, Oprah Gail, etc. Fill in the blanks. and they
create a narrative when you saw in full play with Kobe Bryant,
you saw what they did to him and his death. Kobe didn't do that.
Nobody. I mean, when he died, I mean look what I did, and we got
to take this we I take them down,
and they take them down. It took Snoop Dogg down a notch too,
didn't they?
Exactly.
Okay. Oh, and by the way, some sorcery and witchcraft I also
believe is real. So not just technical events on television.
I think you can probably conjure a bad energy wherever it's
coming from. And
I mean, I don't dispute that as well. I mean, I'm just saying
that it for the people that that's the reach for them. Just
the control your mind control brainwashing. Don't take my word
for it. Take brailles word for it. Right. Tom Burrell? Yep,
he's a he's a master wizard.
He is he's a Grand Wizard to coin a phrase Grand Wizard at
what he does. Moe thank you so much. This is so enjoyable to do
the shows and because it's written enriches me as a human
every show to me is like I get to catch up with my with my
buddy. I like that so much and I know it comes across on the show
and I know so many people get so much value and of course you
know our pitch. If you got any value from it, just translate
that into numbers add a note let us know how you feel how it
affected you try and keep it within the realm of broadcast
length because after all, we are creating technical sorcery here
for you. And and counter sorcery counter
sources, right.
It's white magic. Oh, what did I say? Oh my god, see how you get
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thank you again I can't wait for the next episode.
And as I always say pay attention to everything in the
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