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Moe Factz with Adam curry for August 19 2019 Episode number
four. Hey Moe. How you doing, Adam? I am doing good and I am
loving the tracks you sent over for the show today.
This was an oldie but goodie that's headed for self
destruction. I think it came out in 1986. It was it was very
impactful on me as a child. And it kind of stuck with me
is this. Isn't this one of the those tracks that is sampled on
everybody's record?
Yes, it's probably one of the James Brown. Because he's like
the backbone of hip hop.
That's right. That's right. Okay. A couple of administrative
things. And we're, we're in the iTunes podcast directory.
Finally. We made it in. Yes.
Which is, which is good news. Because now you can just tell
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mothership. And I gotta tell you, I pulled the pod father
card that was very cool.
Because like, it's a nice that's a nice car to have, sir. Yeah, I
kept getting rejected, like, Oh, thank you for submitting your,
your podcast looks like you're testing some things like Yeah, I
know, put us on and then I had to email to Hey, man, can you
put me in the right direction? Sure. I'm the godfather. Sure.
You've heard of me? And like, oh, we fixed it for no problem.
Quick thing about the last episode, we talked about
opportunity zones, I got a lot of feedback from people on that,
that a lot of opportunity zone fund managers, actually, how
about you?
Ah, yeah, I got some great emails, I'm just giving us
background and boots on the ground information about what's
going on. So I'm loving the feedback. I love when people
contact me. And if you want to contact me, you can go to
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the contact page, and descemet email or anything you guys find
interesting.
feedback I got was from the fund managers, of course, were
saying, Well, if you look at the numbers, it really isn't,
doesn't have a big gentrifying effect. That's what now of
course, their fund managers. An interesting side note to that is
they said, there's a lot of states and cities mainly run by
Democrats, who went who poopoo, the the OP, the opportunity
zone, tax breaks, and you know, and they were too late. And so
they've actually they've hurt their communities, according to
the fund managers, by not taking advantage of it. So I'm, go
ahead.
Right. So I mean, that was one of the things we point out in
this show that only 11% of the opportunity zones, if I'm going
with my numbers, correct, fall into low income areas, which I
don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, because we
know the effects of gentrification. So I mean, I
don't know how to how to basically interpret that number,
if that's going to be a good thing that, you know, you don't
have like 50 60% of these opportunities, zones and power
and poverty stricken areas. Yeah. And I want to make people
clear, make things clear. I'm not anti capitalist. What I am
is anti hypocrisy. So that was the point on the last show was
to say, you can't say you're anti gentrification and be pro
opportunity zone. And that's that was the really thing I want
to illustrate with these, talking with these think tanks,
where they're pushing their anti Trump but pro his opportunities
on you can't and I think that was being disingenuous. And
I think the message came through because once we got the and it's
been a week since we did this, once we got the message about
Jay Z in the NFL partnership with Roc Nation. I mean, my wife
came up to me the Tina the keeper, she's like, wait a
minute, what is this Jay Z doing? You know, it's like her
eyes had been open. Like, this is this is happening everywhere.
So yep, that's what we learned. Right? And
not to get in that too deeply. But that was another case of
hypocrisy. It's a great move for him to get be affiliated with
the NFL as a businessman, cuz I think that opened many doors for
himself. But to wrap yourself and wokeness you know, and pro
black agendas and then do a deal with NFL is the hypocrisy
exists. So these are the things we want to point out with this
show. And even on today's show, I'm going to point that out.
What we're gonna start looking at conservative think tanks.
Yeah,
so we're still in think tanks and we're looking at the
conservative think tanks. Correct.
So we had to bring balance that and I think that's what we want
to do with this podcast is to bring balance and look at nuance
and not just be a pro one side or anti the other side. So just
to kind of go into where we went ahead. I found this in fact,
this video on Prager University or Praeger, you and just a
little background on them. There. This is per week, well
per wiki. It says Praeger you short for Prager University is
an American nonprofit organization organization that
creates videos on various political topics, political,
economic, and physical, physiological topics from
conservative right wing perspective. So I think this is
where Candace Owens Yes,
this is the home of Candace Owens videos. Right? It's run by
or it's owned by? What's his name? His name is Prager, isn't
it? The guy who owns it, he's had a lot of problems with
YouTube and D monetization stuff. And but it seems very
educational.
Yes. Dennis Prager,
I think is Dennis Prager. Exactly. Right. So
what we want to do, I found this video, and the name and the
title of the video was the top five issues facing black
Americans. And this is from a right wing conservative tilt. So
what I want to do is go through those top five issues and see if
they're valid, or if they're politically driven. And, you
know, counterbalance it with some maybe some liberal left
wing talking points, and then find that middle ground halfway
in between where the truth lies. All right. So number five,
what are the five biggest issues facing blacks in America? Here's
my list. Problem. Number five, the victim mentality. Nothing
holds someone back more than seeing himself as a victim. Why?
Because the victim is not responsible for his situation.
Everything is someone else's fault. And the victim sees
little chance of improving his life. How can you get ahead if
someone is holding them back? All this makes the victim
unhappy, frustrated and angry. This is how too many blacks see
themselves as victims, so much so that their victim status
becomes their primary identity and their ruling ideology. I
call it victimology. Unfortunately, many black
churches preached his victimology. Many black parents
pass it on to their children, and city schools teach it to
their students, and the Black Media reinforce it. Meanwhile,
the NAACP and other black grievance groups fundraise on it
before you deconstruct this Mo who was this speaking?
Okay, this is Taalib Starks Talib starts, excuse me. And
he's the author of number Amazon's number one bestseller
black lives matter. So, this is, like I said, this is clearly a
right, right wing tilted video. So and like I said, this is I
consider them a think tank that comes up with the black
conservative right wing talking points. So he brought up number
five being victimology or the victim mentality where I stand
on it is I think that is a problem when you say that you
are a victim. But just to push back against that the of saying
that it's unjustified that I think that's where we have an
issue at so let's listen that Larry elders, which is another
right wing, pundit, talking victimology.
So that there's where you would say that this is purely because
of social justice this purely because they want ultimately for
people to be angry enough to just keep voting Democrat.
That's right. And Where's where's the evidence of the lack
of social justice when a black suspect is killed by by a cop?
Believe me, the media is on it. People are watching it, and and
justice will will for the most part to occur.
So to a point he's correct, but we have seen cases where black
men are killed by the police unjustly and seeing the police
officers get off But let's continue to listen and learn
Larry elder is in parks.
And it turns out, cops were more reluctant, more hesitant to pull
the trigger against the blast black suspect than a white
suspect, probably because of the fear of being accused of
racially profiling and the fear that the Civil Rights
established was going to come down on him. So if anything,
whites are more likely to be shot by a cop under under
certain circumstances than a than a than a black person, oh,
he's just doing statistics.
Right? He's doing the same things. But the problem is when
you say something like that, that police are more likely to
shoot a white guy and a black guy. I don't know, one, I don't
know how you quantify that. Or how you measure that. And two,
if you're, here's the problem. You have two factions, their
left wing and a right wing that are trying to communicate to
black people what their pros are up there, you know, St.
Audiology, right. And when you come to the point and say that
white people are more likely to get shot and black people. I
think that's hard to prove. And it kind of it kind of negatively
affects what what you set out to do. Well, now with me, there's
so many qualifiers that you that that you have that you would
have to take into account, under what circumstances what state
what crimes. I mean, there's a lot, you know, day night,
there's a lot of different elements there.
Right. And that's the problem. That's the problem with that
talking point. And it's very harmful to his argument, because
the first part in the first clip, he made some very valid
points, but you can't ignore it. What I'm doing is I'm pushing
back against right wing talking points, to show them how they're
ineffective at reaching the average everyday black person.
And if this, if I may say, the idea of victimology that is a
conservative talking point applied to social justice
warriors in exactly the same way.
That's that's, that's exactly right. And we do see we do see
the left pushing people to want to be victims of everything, you
know, they always talk about the oppressor. And you we were
saying this weird thing where white males are telling another
white male, the famous clear your freakin white male. So it's
like, what? Maybe we convinced this their propaganda is so
good. That is even convinced white males that they're
victims.
Yeah, well, that's the basis of identity politics. Everybody's a
victim now vote for us, and we'll take care of you.
Right. But what I want to point out to the conservative slash
right wing, which they do have some great they make some
excellent points. Candace Owens makes excellent points. Even
their elders make some excellent points. But when you put certain
talking points and what your facts it automatically is like a
gag reflex. That I'm black people that hate using that
term, but black people don't want to hear it. It's like no,
dude, what are you talking about? We've seen his name slips
my mind. Ah, Sterling. Rod strata guy. No, not. The guy in
New York. They got choked out on the sidewalk. I can't breathe.
Yes. And it's Michael Brown. No, Michael Brown was shot in first
shoot you right? It was Alton Sterling out in spelling? Yes,
yes. Yes. We saw him on tape get choked out.
Yeah, but that. That's like, it's almost like Jeffrey
Epstein. Mo, it's like, we know that that's what the story
doesn't check out. And in this case, we know the story doesn't
check out. Sad thing is we actually saw it with our own
eyes. Right. And
that's what the what, what I'm trying to do is lay out that if
you want to be successful at getting the black vote, or
entertain the black vote, or even getting black people to
listen to your talking points, you have to be genuine. And when
you say a white person is more likely to get shot and a black
person. And what you have to understand is how that is
received, not how said all right. How that is received is
if a white guy on Wall Street in a business suit is doing a
crime. He's more likely to get shot than a black person. That's
how it's received in his life and your BS detector goes off.
Okay with that set. With that said, we all know that the left
pushes victimology as an almost as a religion and let's listen
to stay woke. We're not
going to be able to successfully combat the oppressor. We're not
united and I think that it goes beyond our blackness we need to
be pulling together with other marginalized communities period.
But one of the things that I've really been pushing with my
friend and brother Charlemagne is banking black, you know,
where's your black bank account buying black which means
supporting our businesses, you know, by the essence don't just
look at it online giving black when whether we're talking about
HBCUs or colleges, whether we're talking about our organizations
like Campaign Zero or Justice league that are doing so many
great things, how are we supporting them? And how do we
expect them to support us if we're not giving back to them
regularly with our time talent in our treasure?
Okay, so this was Angela Ray. She was speaking on stay WOKE is
the biggest issue. I asked him to stay well, the biggest issues
facing black Americans and it was on the essence channel on
YouTube. So some of the things she said is oh presser these
are, these are key words that the left us and like I said, I
don't want to be seen as oppressed. I don't want to be
seen as marginalize, you know, these are victim This is victim
terminology. Right. So like I said, if you have if I have to
choose between these two, one, I can say it later elder have made
some great points. And he has some facts there. But he kind of
like oversold it with some with with some of these talking
points. Yeah. And if my other option is to be a victim, to be
oppressed, marginalized, then I can then she said you can't do
it on your own. I guess she what she means there is black people
can't meet their goals on their own political goals on their
own. We have to make alliances with groups that are pushing
things that are deleterious to black black people causes such
as illegal immigration. And then she says she brings Charlamagne
's name up in this clip in talking about banking black,
which we saw on the last. Yes, Charlemagne
Charlemagne banks and a big white hedge fund as far as we
know. Right.
So I'm just going to show how the left is disingenuous. Um, so
I mean, that's just with the number one. Yes, I think
victimhood is very victimhood is very damaging to black people.
But I want to say this, majority of the black people don't buy it
to victimology and victimhood is the small minority, that's the
loudest. Um, here's the thing.
Well, hold on, how are they the loudest? You mean, on Twitter?
Yes, you have a small segment of activists that are the loudest
on Twitter, in groups like Black Lives Matter, which we know who
funds that George Soros, they have the biggest bullhorn, they
have the they have the machine that can be activated. And they
portray themselves to represent the sentiment of black people
overall.
This happens with a lot of groups. And if we take into
account Twitter really probably only has five or 10% of the
American population using the platform actively. You know, but
they you get a blue checkmark, and then you're you're part of
the game, and then that game is allowed to flow over to other
online publications. And from there goes into broadcast cable
news. That's kind of the system that's, that's there not just
for Black Agenda or, or or victimization, it's for
everything that seems to be the way it works.
And I think that's a great segue into number four, because what
we look at the problem why this is so impactful to black people
is because you don't have a diversity that white America has
of opinion. So we you have a Fox News counterbalancing CNN or
MSNBC, you don't have a black version of Fox News
counterbalancing what CNN MSNBC pushes. So let's listen to
number four.
Problem number four, lack of diversity. Blacks repeatedly
demand an honest dialogue or debate about race. But how can
there ever be an honest dialogue about race between blacks and
whites, when there is virtually no honest dialogue between
blacks and blacks is hypocritical. And if a black
doesn't think whites are ultimately responsible for black
people's problems, they're labeled a sellout, Uncle Tom, or
race traitor. As long as this type of groupthink exists, race
reverence of the Al Sharpton Jesse Jackson type will continue
to be celebrated by independent black thinkers, such as
professors Thomas Sol and Walter Williams will be shun the honest
raised dialogue and debate that first has to happen is not
between blacks and whites, but between blacks and blacks, we
demand diversity from others, but need to practice it
ourselves. We're really matters and thought, opinion and even
political affiliation.
Right. So this is what we talk about on the show before that.
Dimmock, Democrats, black people vote majority, democratically.
So with that comes the progressive ideology that comes
with it. And Republicans say, well, we're not going to get the
black vote. And they don't spend any time zero they don't care.
Yeah, well, not zero. We've seen in recent my in the last
election, Trump has paid more attention to the blacks. Black
community,
right. But, but we're talking about Republicans not Trump.
Right.
Yeah. Okay. Fair point. So, you know, it's like it's the
forgotten. And then the first problem, he laid out that
victimology is pushed in the church, correct. As one of the
vehicles, so Reverend Jasper Williams, Jr. was at the Retha
Franklin funeral. And he laid out some of the issues plaguing
the black society.
70% of our households are led by our precious, proud, fine, black
women. But as proud, beautiful and fine, as our black women
are, one thing a black woman cannot do. A black woman cannot
raise a black boy, to be a man when the police kills one of us.
We're ready to protest march, destroy innocent property. We're
ready to loot, steal whatever we want. But when we kill 100 of
us, nobody says anything. And whenever you take a foreign
object, and you put it into the womb, before that baby is born,
that's abortion, before birth, and when that home is not like
it ought to be. The father is not doing his part, the mother
not doing her part, and the child has deficits. That's
abortion. To birth.
In, in my experience, my observation, these are all
pretty much conservative talking points.
Correct. And he but he's not a conservative person.
But this is something that whenever someone says, oh, white
kid, white cops killed black black people more often than
it's, you often hear well, there was 50 shootings in Chicago this
weekend. We didn't hear about that.
As you Adam, you're getting ahead, sir. I'm sorry. I should
No, no, no, no, it's good that you brought that up? Because
yes.
But I need to do my Becky voice when I do that. That's the
reflexive
thing. And it's, it's harmful to the argument that people try to
make. But as you He lay out all the progressive ideologies that
come with the Democratic Party. And when he done when he did
that, of course, he was met with met with pushback, and it came
under fire.
Black America has lost its soul. So
two days after the Queen of Soul is laid to rest. The Atlanta
pastor who delivered her eulogy is now coming under fire for
remarks made about the black community during that service.
Our Christie Etheridge is joining us now from the newsroom
and Christy we understand that Reverend Jasper Williams is
expected to address the media about these comments that got so
many people talking a lot
of people talking Jennifer but it doesn't seem to be an
apology. He's planning he says he plans to quote steadfastly
eloquently and unapologetically explain the biblical perspective
he shared in that eulogy. Jasper Williams is Pastor Emeritus at
Salem Bible Church here in Atlanta, Aretha Franklin asked
him specifically to speak at her funeral. But when he did, some
are calling the comments he made demeaning to black people. He
said that black America had lost its soul. He also criticized
black on black crime, and said single mothers are incapable of
raising sons by themselves.
Okay. So we have a reverend here that preaches the Bible. And in
the Bible, you know, it says no sex outside of marriage, which
means you need to have two parents raising the child. I
mean, that will be you know, understandable. Thou shalt not
kill. He brings up black on black crime. And, you know, all
the other things that go along with the Christian faith, and he
comes under fire for this What is he thinking? Right? So that
goes to show you and this goes into what you were saying. It
goes on Twitter, this clip went on Twitter. It became viral. And
then it bleeds over into the national media. Yeah, exactly.
So this clip illustrates how that works. Now, black people as
a whole agree with what Mr. Rowe excuse me, Reverend Jasper
Williams is saying, but the outrage machine keeps the
majority of black people quiet.
Yeah. Because you don't want to get caught up in the in the
machine, it can rip you apart.
Right? Because once you once you step out there, as seen as
something that's not accepted by the black community, then you're
shunned. Or you're called all kinds of names, as the guy laid
out. And when he's illustrated problem number four, and you get
isolated. So you have to remain quiet.
How can I ask you something Mo? How, how real is this? When it
comes to new media? As an example, you've been doing a lot
of YouTube videos you're doing this show? Do you get called
names for it?
I have. But they don't affect me, because I know what my cause
is. And it's to bring it out, I want to make clear what my cause
is, my cause is pro truth. So what I tried to do, and I think
it's similar to what you try to do, is to make people understand
how they're being labeled a blade, right? Played, yeah, if
you understand how the mechanism works, that's playing you, then
you can defuse it and it no longer is rendered effective on
you,
which so often comes down to listening carefully because
words matter.
Correct. And understand, like, like we just illustrated here.
Um, you have a group like Black Lives Matter and other
progressive groups that have bots, that can take a viral
video, whether it's pro or con, have it and paint it in a good
light or a negative light, it then bleeds over into the normal
into your into your feed. Once it gets into your feed, and you
see how it's being tilted one way, then it bleeds over into
national news. Yeah. And not to repeat myself, but that's how it
works. And even if you're against it, a lot of people
don't have courage to say they're against the
wall. And if you're against it, then you get the gang up. And
that's not for me, that's second nature, almost. I've been in the
public eye since I was 19. Actually, earlier if you take
the pirate radio stuff into account, but it's not always
easy to be called all kinds of names and spat on on Twitter,
even though it's Twitter. You know, we saw this progression.
There was bullying, and then it's social justice and you
know, doesn't matter. And now it's just the RIP someone apart.
And it's not easy for people who just want to stand up and say
something, it's, it's challenging.
And then you have the council culture.
That was the next point. Yes, exactly.
Right. So that's one of the things that we are saying that
we see, especially for black people with high visibility. And
I think that's what Jay Z went went through, is, you know, he's
teetering on the canceled culture. Now he has enough
equity in the black community where he won't be outright
canceled. But a good friend of the monitor and me we're having
a conversation, and I asked was this Jay Z's Bill Cosby pull up
your pants moment? The reason why I asked that is Bill Cosby
being taken down. Let's be clear, Bill Cosby did things
that were wrong. And that's not even an argument that needs to
be discussed. But where we see it as when he like told people
pull up your pants, you know, and be respectable? A good
segment of black society, like you're not supposed to say that
to us. And when he did that he lost a lot of support in the
black community. Whereas with the art Kelly, he doesn't even
more despicable things that have been have physical evidence of
it. But he didn't tell you to pull up your pants now, did he?
Right. So you see the difference? Yeah. And so what
I'm saying about Jay Z, by the way,
I'm sorry to interrupt Moe,
no problem
when Bill Cosby said that. And we're talking. I remember what
year that was.
I think it was mid 90s. I want to say I mean, that's what I
thought.
I was probably not know if I was still on MTV, but I was probably
doing my radio show. But I was I was in popular culture. And to
be honest, I remember white people going Yeah, hell yeah.
Tell them to pull up their pants. I hate that look. It's
just so it was actually bad on both sides
and My dad, he was like he was going for it. Your pants go
around your waist. What's wrong with you? Boy? He was like, so
he said nothing wrong is the fact that
except those young guys, those criss cross jump around. I don't
mind if they wear their pants backwards. That's fine.
That wasn't fun. You know what funny story is. I tried that I
was 12, maybe 1213 years old would jump around came out.
It was the weirdest thing, man.
And my dad caught me going down the steps. He's like what I'm
facing. So, um, my back to him, but my calls is facing him.
So yeah, and that didn't go over too. Well. Did it.
Get your hair looking crazy, that just go to shut the
respectability is there. But now you can't say? Yes. So just to
get back on track. We have a popular ESPN host, Stephen A
Smith. And he came out about black people's voting for the
GOP.
The Stephen K said that every black person in America should
vote Republican for at least one election. Stephen A Smith is
joining me now Steven, who are you trying to send a message to
Republicans, Democrats, African Americans, all of the above?
I'd go with all of the above that sounds about right. But
specifically the Democratic Party from the standpoint that I
definitely believe that the black vote has been taken for
granted. And by pro life primarily, the black community
is at fault in my estimation, in that regard, simply because on
one hand, we're giving one party our vote because they've
successfully gone about the business of convincing our
community that the other party, the Republican Party is
completely against the interest of the black community. And as a
result, we've been very transparent in our support.
We've bought it hook, hook, line and sinker, we look at the
Republican Party. I'm not talking about every single one
of us, of course, but vast majority of black Americans look
at the Republican Party as the enemy, we look at the Democratic
Party, who even tacitly has our support base. And as a result,
we are very transparent and our support for them. So because of
it, they have a license to take us for granted. The Republican
Party has a light to a license to summarily dismiss us because
they believe they'll never get our vote anyway. And then we end
up finding ourselves devoid of any kind of representation
whatsoever, because nobody is really competing to garner our
vote and our support.
So when Stephen H. Smith came out and said this, oh my god, I
bet shit hit the fan. He was called every kind of name listed
before and why not listed by the gentleman that laid out problem
number four and that is the C word. That is cone z o n. And
this let people know a black man calling another black man Kuhn
is the equivalent of a white man calling a black man I never good
to know. It holds that way. And I've seen this weird thing where
white liberals are allowed to call black people Coons and I'm
like, what? Yes, on social media, you will see this if you
see somebody step by say for instance, like a Candace Owens
or some Kanye. Yes, I saw many people, even white people
calling him cool. Yes. Now that
Kanye is we've we know we've agreed he's bulletproof. So that
not the best example. And it doesn't matter what you call
him, he can do anything he wants.
But what I'm saying is they were given the license Wow, white
liberals were given a license to kill Kanye. Kanye
now who was who is in charge of the licensing department for
this?
Is it loosely based organization you know?
Got it. All right. I'd like to attend a meeting. I'd like to
learn more.
Right. Um, yeah, I could talk to some bad challenge about that,
sir.
But I can't wait to get it. I get the the issue. Yeah, it's
not it's not the thing you say.
Right. So what Steven, but it's acceptable. It's and we have to
go back. Liberal ideologies come down for people like George
Soros. They're fun groups like black lives matter. Black lives
matter. Attack people that have a diversity of thought. So it's
really you doing the bidding of a white man like George Soros.
So this is weird thing in the name of blackness. I don't
understand why my mind can't wrap around it. But yeah, and
Steven a Smith has done a complete Even now he was bound
to and what he said about voting GOP to send a message to
Democrats. And it's actually similar to my message as to
telling people not to vote, or vote against Democrats, or to
send a message to let them note about our political maturing
process. He received so much blowback that he attacked Colin
Kaepernick when Colin Kaepernick refused to vote. Well, now,
Colin Kaepernick was to vote, he only had one choice,
right? Is it? Is it to culture? Because now, I agree that most
black people vote for the Democratic Party, or the
politically active in general. And of course, we're
generalizing that they also registered democrat and vote in
primaries.
No, they don't want you to vote and in problem, I mean, they
don't really want you voting in primaries. That way the party
can get the vote that candidate in there they won't, and we're
seeing this. We've seen this before. It's all in the key
word. And it's a meme. And I've called it 234 times activate.
You only activate when we activate you
went? Oh, my goodness. Yes. That that is exactly the word. Sure.
We've been in every episode almost.
Right. So you lay dormant candidate. And then once this
talk goes into generals, we activate Oh, what is wrong with
you people?
Right, is that what is wrong? So to bring a conservative tilt to
what the gentleman said, totally upset. He brought up a name
Thomas Sowell. Yeah. And let's just see about his facts and
fallacies
race wasn't the basis of slavery.
Oh, it was a simple historical matter. Slavery existed for
1000s of years as far back as there are any records of human
beings. archaeological finds suggests that race is a race
that slavery rather existed before human beings could read
and write. So what race a racial difference between the slaves
and the enslavers that is a relatively new phenomenon. You
didn't have in ancient times the ability to go to another
continent, and move millions of people across a different race
across the ocean. So you enslaved the people who are
nearby. But Europeans enslave Slavs for centuries before they
enslaved before they brought the phrase Black, African to the
Western Hemisphere.
Okay, but so you're not suggesting you do not wish to
say anything other than that slavery as practiced in the
United States was it may have been recent, but you'd are you'd
be willing to grant that it was particularly perverse and and
and disheartening, because it says race got mixed into it at
that point, right.
Race got mixed into it for the United States more than anywhere
else, for a very simple reason the United States was founded
was a declaration said, Independence said, Men, all men
are created equal, right? If that's true, then the only way
you can justify slavery is to say that some men are less than
men.
I know, right? So that's Thomas Sowell, and he made some great
awesome valid point about slavery existed before American
slavery and it being interracial, interracial,
but it was the hypocrisy of the Constitution or the Declaration
of Independence.
Right? But when you say that, and this is like I say, it's not
how it said but has received because I'm gonna be honest with
you. I have this ratio gag reflex as well. Just there was a
natural thing. Growing up as a black man in America. Will you
hear certain things that you've learned all your life? And you
hear it you actually gag to? Because when you hear things
say, oh, American racism wasn't really racially based. What I
mean, right that discredit everything you said before that
now is it in his car is is the is his point is nuance. Yes,
they are. But I'm just telling you why. I'm trying to explain
explain to people why conservative talking points fall
deaf on black ears. This is what I'm trying to illustrate here.
Um, that's why illustrate with the Larry elders clip. I'm
illustrating here with the Thomas Sowell kill clip, he set
a lot of facts in there. But when you implant that one, it's
like the what the pee in the mattress. It makes it very
uncomfortable to take what you're saying as valid. And when
you say things like American slavery was not racially based,
so then why
is he saying this? And he's well respected.
Here's the thing. Are they equally trying to persuade
people the same way that people on the left are
well that's that's the that's the idea you get when you hear
this little this little embedded nugget that is clearly meant to
plant something in your mind. Yeah, what else can you like?
include,
right you trying to make? And here's his This is how inside
baseball. Um, when black people hear this, what it sounds like
is you're trying to absolve white people of the racist
actions that happened in America in his past,
I can see how that would be interpreted that way, of course.
So when you do that you lose all credibility, even you have you,
you have facts, you have number, you have stats, and charts and
everything. But when you plant that little nugget in there, and
I'm I don't know, if he's doing it on his own, or it's like a,
you know, kind of takes the pressure off of us. I don't
know.
Well, it's, it's also a that, you know, the fact that they
were white slaves that the first slave owner was black, you know,
these are all talking points that are used in counter
arguments. And, in fact, actual counter arguments about oh, how
would we do reparations? Because dot dot dot, implying it was not
a racial issue.
Right, but it did have racial aspects to it, of course,
especially American slavery, let's be clear, and especially
American slavery under because this existed before America is
this the on this continent, but you know, under when you and
it's the hypocrisy, even he laid it out. It's the hypocrisy when
you say all men are created equal, but the certain group is
counted as three fifths and we know where that origin of that
number comes from. Yeah. They're, they're treated
differently. And like I said, before, an interracial slavery,
if I was able to buy my freedom, you couldn't tell that I was a
slave anymore. With American slavery, even if I was able to
buy my freedom, my skin makes me still a slave in people's mind,
right. So I think that's the difference. And when they say
all about slobs, and that kind of thing, it's totally
different, totally different. So let's just keep moving. And I
want to show even in television, diversity of thought is not
allowed, because we have to keep the stereotypical ideas going.
And what we're gonna, who we're gonna hear from now is James
Amos, that was the father on the popular show good times.
The differences we had on that show, and we had a number of
differences, as evidenced by my early departure from the show,
was I felt that with two other younger children, one of whom
had to aspire who aspired to become a Supreme Court justice,
that would be rough Carter, or Michael and the other.
Bernadette Stannis, I think she aspired to become a surgeon. And
the differences I had with the producers of the show was that I
felt too much emphasis was being put on JJ and his Chicken Hat
and saying dynamite every third page, when just as much emphasis
in mileage could have been gotten out of my other two
children, and the kuchaman and jokes and, you know, humor that
could have come out of that. But I wasn't the most diplomatic
guy, like I said, In those days, and they got tired of having
their lives threatened over jokes. So they said to tell you
what, why don't we kill him off, and we'll get on with it. We'll
get on with our lives. Life's too short. So that taught me a
lesson that I wasn't as important as I thought I was, to
the show, or to Norman Lear's plans. And he was not about to
have a disruptive factor. That was me a disruptive factor.
Okay, I caught that one. I know what that's about.
What what did you catch Adam? Norman Lear
is what I caught. That's a familiar name to me.
And for the No, not no agenda listeners, who is normally
Norman Lear, was the producer of all in the family. And I want to
say the Jeffersons and was he also the producer of good times.
I didn't know that. Yes, wouldn't surprise me, I believe
normally are still alive. He certainly his work is still
alive. As for years, he has run something called the Hollywood
Health and Society. I think it's called Foundation. And they
provide script help they start I think it started with medical
dramas. That's kind of how they got into the business and they
would hire doctors to then consult on you know, what's the
Clooney thing? Whatever that series was that he started in,
but you know, medical drama, but really social justice issues,
writing scripts, they've done a lot of work on popular shows now
like modern family and they Slip in climate change stuff and, and
it to me it's very obvious and they put a lot of very active
things in that are that are actual news at the time. And
they're very deeply entrenched in Hollywood. And they do this
work unquestioned. And they're seen as the experts on almost
everything. So you can't it's like hiring IBM, you can't go
wrong if you bring in, bring in the Hollywood Health and Society
leader foundation, it's all good. Is this where a share a
little bit of how they talk? Yes, please. This is Martin
Kaplan, of the Hollywood Health and Society. It's a multipart
talk that he gave, but this is the boasting about how much
involvement they have in Hollywood scripts.
So in the course of our work, this is, in the two years 11 to
13 335 storylines that we worked on, have been aired, we've
worked with 35 networks in the past four years, 91 different
television shows.
And this clip is I want to say five years old, at least maybe
even older.
So now you see the impact, even pre the leer foundation of them
shaping ideas of how black people are to be perceived. So
just a background on the goodtime show. It was about a
mother a father and three children. You had JJ who was an
aspiring artist, and basically a class clown. Then you had the
second child, which is a Talma, I believe her name was and she
was aspiring Sargent and dancer. And then you had the youngest
child who wanted to be the next Thurgood Marshall. That was that
was his thing, right? But with the show, it was like John Amos
said it was all about Donald. You know, so
do it again. Do it again.
So John Amos were actually threatening these people lives.
And he says, because of the bull crap. They tried to push through
the show. Yeah. And eventually what happened was, he was fired
off of asbestos successful show. If you listen to the clip, it
goes on. He tells us and I just want to paraphrase, he was
fired, because he was upsetting the applecart. And what they did
then was just make the show about doom and gloom. I mean,
wish it was it was built based in the projects in Chicago,
right? I mean, so. But it was about scratching and survive.
And if you say if you if you didn't know the theme song, so
um, yeah. So what they did was killed, they killed off the
black man. Yes. Well, I mean, don't we see a common theme
here? Yes. And then and then they let the shenanigans go?
Yeah. Just fly loose. So I mean, I just want to show you that
even in television, they shape a certain narrative, there's no
balance, there's no and even when you have a strong person
like John Amos trying to push balance from within, they'll get
rid of you.
And also the flow of an organization like the leer
Hollywood Health and Society. Foundation is, you know, there's
a lot of people who who consult and they flow in and they're in
production companies, and then down the road, they're running
stuff. And and that's one of the many ways Hollywood has
historically received its left leaning ideology.
Right. And that's exactly correct. And like I said, it's
just, there is no diversity. And it's
all it's all controlled. It's all controlled one way or the
other.
Right, and it's controlled from the very top and the very top as
we've op chart to repeatedly and I know maybe people get tired of
me saying this, but on the left, it is generated from white
people. Yep. Even when you go back to the NAACP, you know,
that was started by majority white people. Almost all white
people except for W EB DuBois. And he was really let me see is
his role. I mean, not to belabor the point, but I just want to
show you what, what this was the original founders and roles they
played. You had national president of the NAACP, you had
Morefield story, white guy, Chairman of executive committee,
were you English wallings white guy, treasurer, John E.
milholland. White Guy, dispersing treasure. Oswald
Garrison Villard white guy Executive Secretary Francis bleh
score? Yeah. And then you have director of publicity and
RESEARCH WEB DuBois, which was a mulatto.
Well, you know, what you're implying here is that there has
always been white control over. And it's, of course, likely
true. Just looking at the numbers over black culture in
certainly in television, movie entertainment. Do you think that
as then, today, they have inherent, purposeful, racist
ideas? Or do you think that these people are trying to do
well and are completely missing the mark?
I think they have elitist ideas. And with when you have a group,
such as black people who started out I mean, I guess we need to
accept the fact that slavery has had an impact on black people as
being
not a good start. Not a
good, it's a good meme of that. And you have the god white guy,
it's like a race, you have two white guys taking off running
and the black people are held back at the starting line. And
then like, it's like, they may let the black people go, I mean,
the black runner go. So that's what illustrate it. And then you
factor in all the things we laid out before, such as Jim Crow.
And then you have policies like no man in the house and welfare
and these kinds of things. That just, you know, made it worse.
Where all these policies coming from we black people, no, I
think it's disingenuous to say black people create their own
problems. Yes, on the very bottom level, but we have to go
up the ladder and see where they instituted it. So, um, but think
that kind of works us into problem number three.
Problem number three, urban terrorism has just about
everyone knows, but too few talk about publicly, and majority
black cities. volleying black on black crime is rampid. a
Department of Justice study from 1980 to 2008 revealed that
blacks accounted for almost half of the nation's homicide victims
47.4% And more than half of the offenders 52.4%. All while being
in 13% of America's population. The Tuskegee Institute conducted
a study of all known lynchings of blacks that occur between
1882 through 1968. During this 86 year span, which is
essentially the post Civil War era, up to the civil rights era,
3446 blacks were reportedly Lynch. Presently, black on black
murder eclipses the number of blacks Lynch over the course of
80 years, roughly every six months. Unbelievably, the
culpability for this disproportionate amount of
mayhem actually lies with the menacing two to 3% minority
within the black populace. I call them urban terrorists. And
since they're literally spawned from problem number two, the
black community protects them.
Having seen this video before we started the show, I have a
problem with this one. This is a false equivalency in my opinion.
And this is where they lose any support that they may Garner
with their facts. Yes, black on black crime is a thing. But if
that's the thing, then white on white crime needs to be a thing.
But you never ever hear about like mass shootings described as
white on white crime.
No, no, that's Nazis. Right.
With that said, even he illustrated that it's a very,
very small minority of the black community participates in its
criminality. But what it does is make it seem that all black
people participate in criminality, and even to black
people that call themselves Whoa, I even had this argument.
I was like, Do you realize, let me just pull up some facts. I'm
worn by the NAACP criminal sheet. And it says there see.
2014 African Americans can constitute it. 2.3 million of
the total 6.8 million correctional population. Now
that is 34%. Right? Yeah. Which is messed up. That's the
problem. That is the problem, because it is equally
distributed, then you would have it more reflect that we are 13%
of the population and then we should only represent 13% of the
Krishna population. So that is the problem. But the way they
frame that number, and numbers are important because you had to
look at look at them in the proper context. Yeah. Now
there's 2.3 million people in prison. Right. This is from the
NAACP. Now if let me see black population, I think the black
population in America is somewhere around 30 million. So
when you do that number that's less than 10%, you know,
somewhere like they might 6%. But you will make it the way
that Democrats talk about how the impact of the criminal
justice system affect black people, you will think your
number will be around 30 40%. So you let them 6% of the
population control the policies that are important to black
people,
that doesn't sound logical, right.
And on the other hand, as you said, the Republican talking
points make it seem like all black people are criminals as
well, or the black on black crime, and then they use the
murder rate and the things, which is totally 13% of your
population is black people, half of that 6.5% Shouldn't account
for 50% of the murders. We totally understand that is way
out. You're saying that distribution, we get we get
that. But what this is where the conservatives have a problem.
They don't want to look at the root causes of why. And let's
look at this is Tallahassee Coates. And he's speaking out
and during the myth of black criminality,
in fact, there's a long history in this country of dealing with
problems in the African American community, through criminal
justice system criminalizing social problems in a way that we
don't do in other communities. For instance, if you looked at
the research, you would find it somewhere around 60 to 70%, of
people in in prisons and in jails are suffering some sort of
mental health problem, it was a 50%, you know, go in there
dealing with some sort of chemical dependency. Viewed from
another lens, these are public health problems. One could look
at, you know, the massive number of African American men who are
out of out of work and the intersection between that and
prison. Well, one can look at where prisons are located. And,
you know, you would find that a lot of times friends are located
in rural regions, you know, where all other industries
effectively shut down. And you might think of that as actually
an employment problem and not a criminal justice problem. The
enduring view of African Americans in this country is as
a race of people who are prone to criminality
again, it's all false equivalencies that lead to this
Yes. And the problem with is when you have two ways you look
at the same thing when you see a mass shooter you're saying of
the white variety male the Republicans say it's the mental
health issue, you know, you know, which rightfully so these
are me saying these people do have problems. But when you they
talk about black on black crime
Yeah, you never hit no it's not a mental health problem just
evil.
Right? He was naturally that way. Yeah, it's they don't say
that but the absence of bringing out mental health issues and
desperation and chemical dependency drugs even the way we
look at the opioid addiction compared to the crack epidemic
other ad Yes, totally looks
different. And we just saw this with the shooter in where was he
the guy who was a Philadelphia the first of all the news media
is not that interesting, because Damn, it's not a crappy ass
white guy who's doing it so we can't pull the Nazi white
supremacist card. Right? And then not a single mention of
mental health or anything like that a guy who's spraying
hundreds of bullets around killing or hitting all kinds of
people. I didn't hear it once. Not once and I'm just as guilty
of that.
You do never hear it because I think with with mass shooters,
you have a face you have a name and you can really dig into the
background of those people. Right I mean to that person.
Well, that's a great point because the media does not do
that. You don't know the name of the guy who shot up Philly you
don't know that.
You use a black guy with a gun. Well, you mean Yeah.
I'm sorry. Identified done.
Right. How they look at it and it's you're right I'm here I'm
here to point out the in the inequality and the the
hypocrisy. Well, not in how things are covered. But
this means that not what social justice warriors because I just
admitted to it. It's like, I don't know. I didn't think of
it. I know I didn't think of it that way. I was thinking of
other things like, Oh, the media is not doing their job, but I
didn't take it one more step further. So is Is this not what
we define systemic racism?
Yes, this is this is a form of it. And that is systemic racism,
racism, systemic racism is almost faceless. Right? The same
way elites are faceless, the real people that run this world
and push these things down on us we don't identify them you know,
we identify their talking heads, but just to go and show you that
it's not only a white person's problem that uses the black and
black crowd talking point let's listen that Larry elders on
black on black calm so
called activist saying this is the assumption that racism
remains a major problem in America. The media, CNN,
especially MSNBC, runs down whenever a black cop shoots
somebody. And and it's some some march on Washington, it's
ridiculous. Black people. Half the homicides in this country
are committed by and against black people. Last year, there
were 14,000 homicides, not talking about suicide, talking
about homicides. Half of them were black. 96% of them black on
black. Oh, that's 7000 Where's the Black Black Lives Matter
people on that?
He's talking about police shooting black men. Yeah. And
then he pivots to the black on black black on black crime
argument. Which those are two totally separate things, but
they, it's so natural. To have deflection. It's like, oh, we
don't wanna talk about that. You know? And we do have a problem
with like I said before with the gentleman that was choked out I
can't breathe with Philando Castile well, who was shot on
camera? He was illegal. He was illegal carry concealed carry.
What was the number one it was the NRA l net? You think the NRA
would have been all over that? You know, to say we have a guy
that would leave with concealed carry shot by the police killed
on camera on Facebook Live. But no, there's no interest in that.
And Larry elders I think, if I'm not mistaken, is pro NRA. So but
he didn't take that angle. He says oh, well black people will
kill Black people too. And at higher rate, so it's this weird
thing that they just want to deflect and once again that
makes their facts which are true and accurate. null and void when
talking to black people.
By the way, we also never discuss mental health or
medication when it comes to cops killing anybody.
Well, we know why. We don't never talk about medication in
general
well, because the news media is bought off paid for every
commercial is Big Pharma. So there's it's not going to be a
discussion. I'm sure you mean that.
Correct. And that's a good point. I've never heard a cop
justify using
porn ever be an accusation? Like what was wrong with this guy?
Did he wig out? Is he nuts? Is he on? SSRIs? You never think
about never. But I tell you what, I know a lot of cops. I
grew up with cops in Jersey and firemen. And they got problems.
They got huge problems and specifically mental health
problems from the shit they witnessed and see it's you know,
it's sometimes you gotta wonder.
You're exactly correct. And when you said that I just had a
dislike it hit me it hit me that I've never heard that argument.
And but I've seen on HBO, they had an old series where talking
about cops and the stress they go through and and the bullcrap
they see every day. So yeah, they will have to be a large
percentage of cops dealing with mental health issues. That's it.
That's what I had to look at today.
Well, and I'll just, I'll just give you something from recent
times, is just imagine you're a cop. You're in New York City.
And you go in trying to as you perceive, protect or serve the
community, and the community turns around dumping buckets of
water on you, you're not allowed to do anything because your boss
is an idiot, whatever, whatever the situation is, to say that
doesn't affect you, is very short sighted. It's got to
affect a person. Like, I mean, if someone's just yelling at you
and doing shit, and you can't do anything that's gonna affect
your performance.
And that was the weird thing because due to the war on drugs,
some of the most original people calling for heavy policing in
the black community were black politicians, and even the black
people that lived in those neighborhoods, rightfully so.
And the NRA saying black people you need to arm yourselves.
Right but we've seen this one ad of black people being anti
police Because of the over policing because we seem unfair
laws, the crack cocaine to powder cocaine disparate, and
we're saying
this is widely known, but I don't know if it's well
understood and there's some conspiracy issues to it that are
that are annoying for the for the truth. But you know what
happened. And it's you know it's LinkedIn to Iran Contra and all
kinds of big government scams and schemes how crack cocaine
got on the streets of America is is a very uniquely American
problem.
And that's a great segue into Gary Webb in his own words.
My name is Gary Webb, I am an investigative journalist. I've
been an investigative journalist for about 25 years for daily
newspapers. And in 1996, I wrote a series of stories entitled
Dark Alliance, which was about CIA involvement in drug
trafficking.
What my story showed was that the cocaine that was being sold
in those neighborhoods was coming from mainly one source.
And this one source was being used to finance a guerrilla war
in Central America.
The general idea of the CIA dealing drugs was something that
the American mainstream press had never written about before.
And that's why it prompted outrage among blacks, among drug
reform activists, among politicians, by the CIA, by
every federal agency involved in the drug war, because it showed
they weren't doing their jobs. There was a fraud.
So as you brought up Why don't conservatives ever discuss that?
You know, that like that these kids have just gone crazy. They
don't look at the source of how those drugs made it into those
communities. And if they did, that will make a valid argument.
And the funny thing is, even the Democrats don't discuss this
now, and there's
and that very man, Gary Webb, who did the investigation, wound
up shooting himself twice in the head with a gun in his left
hand.
Right to today. Yep. And if you go Gugu, may go look on YouTube,
you will find Maxine Waters, and her early days, trumpeting these
claims, but now that she's become establishment, you
haven't heard a peep out of her since? And do we really think
that the, I think maybe become more efficient, let the cartels
run it. But at the end of the day, I think there are some kind
of still governmental toxic drugs being brought into these
to these communities.
And I recommend the movie is it American Gangster? Right with
Denzel and that's it's based on the true story of how these
drugs were smuggled in. It's it's a great movie.
Yes, is a great movie. And just to go back to this disparity of
sentencing between crack cocaine and powder cocaine It was what
was it 1986 bill that it was 100 to one ratio. So if you had a
one gram of crack would be equal to 100 grams of powder cocaine.
How do you come up with that? That calculation and the irony
of it crack okay actually had less cocaine.
That's more ammonia. And what else is in there?
Zoom baking soda.
laxatives that's it, baking soda and laxatives huh? Yeah,
you get 101 disparity. Now this is something
that Obama tried to correct it during his administration.
Oh, yes, he correctly 2010 and Fair Sentencing Act. And let's
see here. All he brought it down from 101 to eight to one Thank
you. Hey,
it better than nothing. But I'm laughing Moe because I've been
on this story. For 25 years. I've been like what is going on
with this? And no one ever really talks about it. But I
think it's look at the people who are still in Congress that
they were around when this this scam took place. You know,
you're in your 70s you were you were knowledgeable you were
around this is a huge scourge on American politics. That this
this this from Iran Contra all the way to the the money being
used from the crack cocaine being sold on the streets of Los
Angeles mainly.
And just to show you our This is a television clip from a
television show, but just to show you it's a misconception
that black people accept criminality. Now that has been
forced on us through mass media, entertainment and accepting of
drug dealers as heroes. If you look at the show, rock that was
on Fox will see that wasn't the case in the early 90s. I got
a nice little thing going across the street, you understand? And
I don't need somebody like you messing things up which a lot of
phone calls to the police. No stupid ass block parties. This
ain't none of your damn business, man. You understand?
I'm trying to get paid you understand? And I don't need you
but into my affairs. I thought this was a nice neighborhood man
was a nice neighborhood. It's always been a nice neighborhood.
Yo, I hear what you saying, brother. But I'm a business man.
You know what I mean? Businessman.
That's right. So what you call yourself you ain't no
businessman. You're murderer. And you're killing your own
people. And you may have done you're killing someplace else,
but it didn't happen in here. I don't think I made myself clear.
I don't want your drugs. I don't want your money. I want your
sorry ass out of my house and off my street.
You got to stop this now. I don't think you want to do this.
Oh, you have been wanting to do this ever since you moved? No, I
don't think you want to find one of these loved ones yours and
one of those garbage cans you pick
up if you have so much as looking at direction. I run down
how
crazy I am. So that goes to show you that black people,
especially black men were okay with what was going on in their
communities. You
may you may be a little bit too young. But Starsky and Hutch. Do
you remember Starsky and Hutch?
No. I remember the movie they made but not that. Not that
television show.
Well, Starsky and Hutch, were two cops. And they had this
hotshot Ford, which looked like a moron was driving it. But
okay, back then hot shit. And they were cops. And they had an
informant. And his name was Huggy Bear. I remember how Huggy
Bear was a pimp, you know, criminal, but he was he was the
okay kind or something like that. So this has been around,
it was definitely like, Oh, he's just got the colorful hats, and
he's got the pimp the pimp clothing. So you know, it's just
it's Huggie. Bear. You know, he's, he's cool.
Yeah, so that just goes to show you that somewhere along the
line, there was this weird pivot of being anti drug, to where
popular culture and entertainment is now pro drug
and pro drug dealer. And let's just see how we got there.
Broken Homes lead to the streets, you will
find in these neighborhoods, the primetime family of Bill Cosby.
There are successful strong black families in America
families that affirmed parental authority, and the values of
discipline, work and achievement. But not many live
around here. Still, not every girl in the inner city ends up a
teenage mother, not every young man goes into crime. There are
people who have stayed here to fight for these kids. They're
outnumbered by the con artist and pushers. It's not an even
match. But they stand for morality and authority and give
some of these kids a bracing dose of unsentimental love.
When their own fathers are missing, kids need someone else
to stand in to practice damage control as the street take over.
For these kids, that someone is Detective Shaheed Jackson of the
New York Police. He came by history, it's March the hard
way.
Well, I came about in the streets. So I know how to get
around a lot of this stuff. When I guess the older you get, the
more you learn. I was fortunate enough coming up that I never
got caught. And I grew out of the streets, but yet, I still
have some in the street and
there was a time when he wasn't sure he would make it off those
streets. He was an unmarried father at 18. And he had his
share of troubles. But he was raised by two parents. His
father was a Baptist minister, and they pushed him to make
something of himself
on a Sunday morning on my blog, you will see each family almost
coming out going to church you know you don't see that anymore.
The family unity
Hmm. Let me tell you how that came across to me was oh, you
separated from the church and that's the problem
that that is one of the problems. The reason why I say
that it was a structured was a structure plays the receive
morality. Sure. So that mean that was the function you know,
I mean, that Church, but what he really showed is that when you
have two parent household, these kind of even though he was
introduced to the streets, he was steered away from it,
because you have that structure there. And let's go on to part
two of this clip.
What have you learned about these kids,
they need somebody love. Identify with us because we
excuse fresh, we don't take any crap. You know, you come in
here, you got to be disciplined, you got to, you know, follow the
rules and regulations. Because when they go out here and deal
with life, they're gonna have to follow rules and regulations.
Self control and self esteem are far more important than a Good
left hook. That's his message to kids like Bernard Warwick. He's
been coaching Bernard for the past four years.
It's like a big brother, father and rich man. There's been times
when he's gotten me, man, and I've spanked, you know, his
mother knows us bank. He knows us bank. But sometimes as many
kidneys No, freedom is a lot of time destruction. The more
freedom a man has a lot of time he'll just self destruct. So I
try to keep them in a little cage. Keep them in my homes.
Somebody has to say no, yeah. Somebody has to say no, you
cannot do this. A lot of these kids grew up with nobody saying
no. Do you think it's important for them to have men around?
Yeah, I think, you know, you have one parent family and this
mother, she cannot teach you all of the things that a man can
teach your son, there's no way.
So where do they learn the routine techniques of just daily
work and living? They don't unless they
get it from their parents get it from the streets?
Yeah, this is the gang culture issue.
Right. So that is not exclusive to black America. No cost when
you see we see the same thing, which house soldiers in Africa.
But yeah, we see the same thing with in the Middle East with the
rise of Islamic radical Islamic terrorism, when you may look for
fatherless, often orphaned children. The Ms. 13 is another
example. Ms. 13 is another great example. So what they look for
is kids without any family structure, you create that
family structure, and then you turn around and exploiting them.
So as the to live, laid out number three, he said number
three, was contributed to by number two.
Problem number two, proliferation of baby mamas, the
disintegration of the nuclear family has led to an
astronomical increase of single mother households. According to
the Moynihan Report, and 1965, nearly 25% of black children
were born to unwed mothers. The report's author, Daniel Patrick
Moynihan said this was a disaster in the making. He was
of course, vilified by so called black leaders and their
progressive allies. But he was right. Today the out of wedlock
birth rate is nearly 75% and even higher in some urban areas.
To be clear, baby daddies share this responsibility with baby
mamas. Yet. While baby daddies are blamed and rarely shown
compassion, baby mamas are rarely blamed and receive both
compassion and support this lopsided dynamic. And the
previously listed pathology stemmed directly from the number
one problem facing the black community.
Now this, which he calls problem number two is one of my has a
lot of interest for me, because this is so embedded now in
popular culture, the concept of a baby daddy baby mama is
universally accepted.
Yeah, if you look at the trends of single parent households, not
only did it increase from the original clips I presented were
for 919 86 special for net point to now. single parent households
have skyrocketed in every community. Yes, sir. So is it
set? And the question is does this come from liberal liberal
policy aggressive policies and ideology? Is that where it stems
from? Where you know, before in the 1950s, even in black
communities and white communities, you had to have a
father, mother and children. Now we have this thing now where
it's, you can't even question anybody. Now people can do what
they want to do. That's not what I'm here for. But we have to see
the impact of children being insecure, when they don't have
both family in the household and in the black community. Those
children are open up to predatorial influences As we
mentioned, that are not exclusive to the black
community, but it is there.
Yes. So this is your right, it's a universal issue. And this is
the way the world has changed. And now whether you can pin that
on liberal progressive ideas or not. I used to attend church
regularly when I was a kid, I don't anymore, you know, dabble
here and there. But I'm a lot older, I come with things rammed
into me from early on, that's clearly not the case anymore.
And I'm not saying exclusively exclusively from church, but
when we look at television and what's accepted on broadcast
television, not shows like HBO knows things
well, more, well, more when you can have people with male
genitalia competing at contest level with with a different
gender. There's all kinds of issues going on with this.
I totally agree. But let's just look at the effects of welfare.
And society is made living for the women without the husband or
without the man. Easy. Oh, yeah. Welfare. I think welfare is not
the best thing for everybody. Because it provides you with
some kind of income that you sooner or later just settle for.
I knew I was on welfare. I've been on welfare.
Are you suggesting that we do away with welfare? No,
I'm saying it has to be upgraded. For instance, I have
some young people here that are on welfare, okay, but would like
to work. But they can't work and make a coin because everything
you make is taken away from your check.
Can you push the solution even further back? Is there any way
to stop the cycle of teenage pregnancies?
So difficult to even talk about? In my heart, I think I have a
solution. And I know may rub people the wrong way. But I
believe that teenage pregnancy cannot be stopped by programs.
It has to be morals and morals come from God. And somewhere
along the line, the black family kind of strayed away from that.
And I believe we need it. You say the moral values have
changed? Oh, yes, it's morally acceptable to have babies that
was not morally acceptable use that's hurting the black family.
What I hear you saying is that even though racism may have
brought about these circumstances, even though
society may have created conditions that that are
terrible, you're saying you have to be responsible, you have to
practice discipline and self restraint.
That's right, we are destroying ourselves. Now it might have
been motivated in and plotted and seated with racism, but we
contend to be in this. Well, man, okay, we just continue to
be in this mud, and we need to get out of it.
So I thought this clip was so powerful, because this was
coming from a person that was on welfare, a black woman that
lived in the community. And that was her perspective that you
know, the lack of morality, and I'm not pushing religion, that's
not what I'm talking about morality. Wherever you may find
that it more power to you. But we have to see that these things
have been deleterious to the to the black community. I can't
really add any more than what she said in her clip, because it
was so powerful. Well, let's listen to affects the welfare to
like Well said, because it makes me lazy. It makes you lazy just
to sit around and wait for a monthly check to come in. Just
like, like money come in every week, every two weeks.
So I want to dispel this myth that a lot of people that
receive welfare, don't like to work. The system is set up for
you not to work. If I was to receive a check, of the same
amount, as working at McDonald's are sitting at home. Which one
would I choose? Why don't we and this is my personal view, why
don't we reward people that go out and maybe work minimum wage
and supplement their income? Instead of rewarding people that
stay at home and do nothing? Do you understand where I'm coming
from?
Well, yes or no. I grew up in a socialist country. I grew up in
the Netherlands. I've also lived in Belgium and I've lived in the
United Kingdom all socialist policies. And the I've seen the
effects of a while you can call them welfare programs. In fact,
a lot of people today say hey, we're already socialist we have
welfare well What I saw is was one step further, in these so
called evolved socialist countries where your welfare
check or your social support check is typically 70% of your
last paycheck earned. So imagine if you don't make 100 grand, and
then you go on welfare, you're making 70, which also puts a
huge burden on the employers, that's a different issue. But
what happens is you get this, you actually get a lazy culture,
where people and I'm just talking about the Netherlands
because I witnessed this will have something the years ago,
I'm talking 15 years ago, I have a burnout. They didn't call it a
burnout that later got popularized. And it's what they
they call in Dutch, they call it a burnout in English, they use
that word, burnout, okay, well, I have to go home now, for three
months, that's kind of the standard burnout. And then
they'd be like him hanging around and kind of bored or go
lug some bricks around from my buddy, I got a trailer, I can do
some yard work, then the neighbor sees that, like, wait a
minute, that guy supposed to be home with a burnout or his back
is out. Now he's doing all this other stuff that creates
incredible strife in all communities. But the what you
say is in effect, true. It's like, hey, why don't you go sit
home and take care of yourself. And you know, you're burned out.
And people take advantage of it. And they I think, inherently
become unnecessary, lazy about the work. But wait a minute, I
can make this money and I can get some additional under the
table money mean, at the end of the day, everyone's all for
themselves. And so this is not a uniquely black uniquely American
program, welfare does seem to have this effect.
And I want to make two points, and then we can go into the
number one, one is we seen one, the first point is this what
troubles me with the UBI, the universal basic
code, it's totally what UBI is all about. It's luring people
under the same pretense,
right? That's very troubling, because I always bring up the
point of is when a person when a person loses purpose, to get up,
get dressed, go to work, you know, and function in society.
That's, that's a very slippery slope to to becoming a, you
know, a non value adding factor in society.
And a substance abuser that usually comes along with that
free time, because you had to find a way to escape your
reality. And that's when exactly so with those things, you lay it
out. Now you see this perfect storm, you have mothers at home,
that's really forced to be at home, because if they go to
work, they lose their check. They have a system to say they
can't have a man in the house. And then you take they have
children that they can't control by themselves because it takes
two parents raise a household where I mean, now what that two
parents consist of is your choice, not mine. But I think it
children wear you down it takes takes two children, you must say
to parents that say raise a child because it's just a child
has a full time job and their
resource sucking scourge that just hangs on to you. Yes, you
need you need to share that burden.
Right? That's That's very true. And then you take that so you
have a woman isolated, no, man, no job, and then you pump in
tons and tons of cocaine and drugs into the community,
and what could possibly go wrong.
And we seen this net when we saw in the 80s it was black people's
problem. But we had the same set of circumstances with opioids in
white communities. It's a health crisis you know, yep, you're
right. This is what this is what when people don't look at that
the same way when conservatives don't look at that as in the
same light that's when they lose traction with their talking
point also shaped
by decades of movies and television and popular
entertainment. It is embedded into our minds Moe
Yes, yes. So and then the last point and then we can get into
number one. We've already seen universal basic income rolled
out in the pilot plan called disability because if you go to
the right lawyer you can get disability for anything in
American
did that's probably true I don't know is this number one?
No, but I'm just I'm bringing that up but just yet look at the
commercials call here. You know, saying you want disability you
don't call here. Like you said the burnout. I know I'm just
mental fatigue on my back tweak you know, and you get there. But
let's go into number one.
Problem number one unquestioning allegiance to soak All
progressive policies. unwavering loyalty to progressive liberal
policies is the primary reason these dire conditions persist.
They both makes them possible and perpetuates them. It's no
coincidence that progressivism is the common thread that binds
predominantly black cities were single parent homes, failing
schools, rampant poverty and crime predominantly. Look at
cities like Detroit, Philadelphia and Baltimore.
They've been run by progressive Democrats for decades. If the
liberal policies were all effective, the city should have
become models of economic growth and prosperity. Instead, they're
models of dysfunction by fostering and exploiting the
victim mentality, discouraging self examination, subsidizing
baby mamas and making excuses for black thugs, so called
progressive policies don't alleviate the problems that
afflict the black community. They aggravate those problems.
Well, it's a big claim. And it's one that's believed universally
amongst groups for sure.
Alright, so I think number one is kinda umbrellas, five through
two. So we don't really need to harp on it that much. But if I'm
seeing white conservatives use Malcolm X talking points to
compat combat white liberals. Really, I got one of the memes
I've seen is a Malcolm X, white liberals, white liberals
are friends. white liberals who have been eager to point out
what the white man in the South has been doing. While they
themselves here in the North, are doing the same thing. They
have been making a great over the South, only the blind as to
what is happening here in the NOC. And now that the eyes of
America 20 million black, can easily see that this white fat
here in the NOC is even more cruel and vicious in the white
world in the south. The world, always looking over you. But
he's not in this white liberal, they pulled in your friend, your
benefactor, your employer, they pulled into when they pulled out
the neighborhood. They pulled out your lawyer trying to help
you. They infiltrate your organization, in this manner by
guiding you. They think, oh, you're militant effort toward
freedom, justice and toward equality. They use integration
for infiltration.
Yes, Malcolm X, very complex topic, not well understood
today.
Very complex topic. But he made one point in there that I just
wanted to highlight. And I think the White conservatives use it
to highlight that the white liberals infiltrate black
movement. And I think we lay that out here with the NAACP
with Black Lives Matter. And it continued, it just continues
over and over again. But also a problem one, Talib laid out the
effects of cities like Baltimore, and how they if
progressive ideologies were so beneficial to black people, and
that as a whole, why are the black people living in the
conditions they are in Baltimore?
I'm glad that he pointed out I'm glad that he put him on blast.
Because people in West ball have been putting the logic coming on
him on blast for years. Ever since he's been in office. He
never did anything for us. Like I said, if he's supposed to be
from his neighborhood, like I said, it's supposed to be it
just arrested just to become this house just didn't get to
them. They've been like this. If he would take the time out to
come over here and see how things are. Maybe he'd be better
at his job. Thank you.
Yeah, the put him on blast lady. I liked her a lot. I've seen
her.
Right. So she's in for people not familiar. She's talking
about Donald Trump's comments about random rat infested
Baltimore. Concerning Elijah Cummings, let's listen to this
citizen to speak
with me while they're worried about the kids at the border,
right. But this is how
actual American citizens got to
live in deal with the Mexican like, tell me it's gonna be
living in this house of all this tell me I didn't have rats and
rodents. He told me I was mine.
So they bring up a good point. It's I lived to even break up
and it's strange to me that he didn't and it's why did he bring
up illegal immigration? Seems like low hanging fruit.
I'm joined now by Mr. Ted Hayes. He's a civil rights activist.
Thank you for being with us, Mr. Hayes. So can I can I ask you
about this? You agree or disagree with the poll, do you
think? Do African Americans think that illegal immigrants
take jobs away from them?
Absolutely. I don't know where this other person getting their
information from but I'm on the ground out here in Los Angeles.
We call la occupy Los Angeles because we have lost all of our
rights. Essentially, black people in LA have indemnified.
We can even go into neighborhoods that were once
black plus three of getting shot beaten up threatened, what have
you. So no, we it's not just about jobs, housing, education,
health care. It's about our 14th amendment birthright that
they're stealing from us. And I don't blame the people. I do not
blame the people. I blame my government for failing to
protect us, according to the Constitution of the United
States.
Yes. This is not just something that's being discussed in black
communities, but a white communities as well. I mean,
we're I'm in Texas, Texas, and people are like, Well, hold on a
second. You know, we've got the the sanctuary city in Austin,
and yet we have American citizens who are sleeping under
i 35. It says this is move more to the forefront for sure.
And what the gentleman breaks up a great point. It's not about
the people coming here, because it's understandable why they
would want to come here. The question is, why are they
allowed to,
because they're better voters once we get them legal. And that
may not even be necessary. They'll vote for whoever helped
them. That's, that's human nature.
That's true. But they're second generation typically votes more
conservative once you get a foothold in America. And you
know, you start voting your pocketbook. They start voting
more conservatively, as numbers show now. I didn't realize
because what we saw was even on the border states for people,
Hispanic people that were here established,
oh, they're pretty much against illegal immigration. Absolutely.
Right. So I think it's short sighted, the Democrats are
progressive in the way you want to call them. Yeah, the first
generation that comes to your wheel. But if you're successful,
you're gonna vote your pocketbook as you should. And if
lower taxes is your thing, or those kind of things, you're
going to start to see them swing back to be more conservative.
But I'll just wonder why a right wing think tank went and bring
up illegal immigration and its impact on on black people. You
mean, it's one of the top five in this list? are part of
the top five?
Sure. Why not?
It sticks out a sore as a sore thumb to me. And is it that
actually right wingers at the elite level benefit also from
illegal immigration? Absolutely.
Of course they do. This is why nothing ever changed. Both sides
benefit at the elite level, it's sure.
And that's the hunch that I had that out of all these talk,
talking points. The one that you could really sell black people
own your own, that illegal immigrants are stealing your
birthright as this man says they're using the 14th Amendment
when it was set aside exclusively for black people
that were slaves in this country to become citizens. They're
using that as a loophole for, quote, unquote, anchor babies.
Let's listen to part two.
Do you agree with with President Trump then that illegal
immigration hurts black citizens more than it does other
Americans?
Owe? There's no question about it. And and not just in the
physical realm of job and housing, health care, but it's
the whole realm of identity. For example, you've heard of
anchors, and that is anchor babies, but women come to the
country illegally, and they have a baby, no child becomes a
citizen. That is totally wrong. That belongs to hold on slaves.
Hold on, you're saying that you're talking about anchor
babies. I mean, I want to touch on that. So you are against the
so called anchor babies, the babies that were born in the
United States, given our Constitution, a constitutional
right that those children are American citizens. So you
disagree with that law.
That is not the that's not true. They've twisted that it's a
custom. If you please take the time. And you go to my website,
you can study Ted hayes.us. They have twisted the 14th amendment
to mean them and it's not read the Civil Rights Act of 1866
where it identifies slaves. That was what it's for.
Yeah, this is a misinterpretation.
And why I asking you, if you're really trying to persuade black
people, which I honestly think this think tank is trying to do.
I mean, here's the political strategy, because we talked
about the negative vote. And then if you could turn a
negative vote, to swing to your side, that's a double hit to the
Democrats. Why wouldn't use this one big talking point, hey,
they're stealing your birthright, you know, you should
have right wing pundits and yelling this from the rooftops,
if you really want to get African Americans to pay
attention to what you're saying, but you don't hear it. And that
goes to show you that think tanks are all about calculated
measures. It's not about what's best for the people. And that's
why I wanted to do this, this segment here is to show you that
it's all about propaganda on both sides. Trying to swing
people either way.
This this particular issue is not just about Southern border,
South Americans coming up, I would say Silicon Valley is
incredibly complicit in this. Of course, this is where a lot of
the money is, if you go look in Portland, and this is not
necessarily a an illegal immigration issue. But if you
look at the h1 B visas, which are given out to Indians, who
have highly educated skills in engineering, electronic
engineering, computers, etc. Who do not mind living six to a one
bedroom apartment, that is all that's doing the exact same
thing. And it does deal with the comprehensive immigration status
that we have that will one day be reformed, but I don't see it
ever been reformed. Nobody wants to get rid of their special pool
of people.
And I see your, your, the point you make, and I raise you LA
Times, August, because what I want to do is before I say this,
I think a list illegal immigration at the southern
border border takes more of the burden than they should as you
just laid out. And one of the one of the topics not being
discussed is LA Times Asian anchor babies wealthy Chinese
come to Southern California to give birth. Yep. And that's
August 26 2015. Oh, yeah. And what and what they do is they
come here actually rent out huge homes. Yep. When numerous amount
of mothers that are in the third trimester fly over here, or they
sell these like, basically like these spas. And it says, an
article that said the website, a one birthing center, this white
column birthing center suggests that 4000 Chinese women have
been service since 1999. And these aren't poor people.
No, no, not at all. They just want the they just want the
American the American passport, the American citizenship, and
I'd write the dual citizenship. Yeah. And I was just looking up.
There was just a story about this the other day, there's an
island that we own as in America owns, and there and they have a
lot of tourism. I can't remember the name of the island now. I
have to look up. And they are asking for the federal
government's help because it people are coming to this
beautiful island. And it's like, oh, it's just, you know,
beautiful for tourism, which is their main industry. But now
there's so many and I have to find this. The guy who are
talking about I think is the governor of the island. And he
said, you know, he didn't he didn't say Chinese, he said
Asian but they're you know, they're coming here and they're
coming here to have children and then have the American
citizenship and then start the train.
So I say to right wing, conservative, talking point
writers or think tanks, and I even say to Donald Trump, if you
want to get black people to listen, you need to raise this
issue. Because black people are more than were aware as a
gentleman outline that they have can't are illegal immigrants
have come into our communities and pushed us out. And actually
democratic. progressive politicians have pushed us to
the backburner for illegal immigrants and illegal
immigrants, illegal immigrant issues. So
yes, that is exactly what has happened. And I don't think
anything is going to change until the people collectively
call for it. And that would mean a lot of exposition of
information as you've done here expertly today. For people to
really understand that and certainly when it comes to this
we're all being hoodwinked. It doesn't make anybody richer
what's going on with illegal illegal immigration? So what
would you what would you conclude? The hearing all this
and I really appreciate what you've done here with looking at
both sides conservative, as well as progressive. Doesn't seem
like anybody has any given anybody a break really?
No, an elite isn't elite. I think that's yes. The summary of
what we take from this, I think we'd be better off having
conversations with people, I'm just saying, I'm gonna say in
everyday life that we we do on this podcast every day, I mean,
every show and we get to find out what's in the weeds. That,
you know, don't use these talking points, because you get
when you lead off with a talking point, like black on black
crime, or, you know, from the left, if you leave that oh
victim, you're saying victimology. It ruins the
conversation. Let me let's use nuance have intelligent
conversations, and will realize that the non elite people who
suffer from the same issues are issues that are based in similar
things.
This has been very educational for me, I came up with a couple
of things that I realized I was thinking about in a limited way.
I appreciate that. And it just one more I just can't wait for
the next episode. Every Monday I like I like Mondays. This is
where we get to do fun stuff.
I enjoy it as well. And I'm just saying it's great company and
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