More facts with Adam curry from March 21 2020. This is episode
number 30. under lockdown, pandemic 2020 Amo how're you
doing?
I'm doing pretty good Adam, how about yourself?
I'm good. You know, it's, it's kind of weird. This all started
about a week ago and the last mo facts I was number 29. And, you
know, for me much, much hasn't changed because this is I kind
of live my life at home. Anyway so it's not that different from
me. Going out once a day to get something how about you though?
You got the kids at home? What's going on? How's it in the in the
facts household?
Well, the white privilege has been bestowed upon me. Oh. Oh
worker completely from completely from home now. Yeah.
So yes, you're still on the white team? No, you weren't on
the white team. Where are you in the yellow?
I've been upgraded now. Oh, after
a little bit of complaining on the show. All of a sudden we see
results.
Yes. Here we are. Yeah.
And if you don't mind me asking just how are the kids? Are they
going stir crazy? Are they occupied? Were they doing?
They're doing pretty good. Are we letting them out the house?
Going for a walk
on the leash or in the yard?
We're not gonna shut her up. We're not gonna shut her up,
man. We are kind of careful around playgrounds. We're not
taking them to the playground. But I mean, being outside
running around the ball around. Are they bored
with social media and their phones yet? Is this I've been
seeing some of that and I'm quite delighted by it.
Actually, they are um, we're down to plant back to playing
board games. Oh, no, sorry. Those kinds of things.
Isn't that injured? We have the exactly the same two of our
girls that we want. And Christina has in Holland and
Ellen's in, in Chicago. But Elise is in Austin. And she
comes over we play Scrabble. And of course, she's a little bit
older. So she's bringing over margaritas. It's an interesting
family time.
I think it's in a weird way it's helping because I mean, you have
the lien on your family at this time at this time. So it's
positive that may come out of the situation.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not too hopeful of that. But we'll see if
something positive comes out of it anyway. So we're doing a
regular mo facts are the scheduled time are kind of new
scheduled time on Saturdays. And I will admit, your call came in
and actually saw he'd called earlier. Dude, I was so I'm
watching the the Coronavirus updates the briefings the team's
the president every single day. I'm taking notes. I'm doing
research and and I honestly I didn't know what day it was. It
could have been Saturday could have been Tuesday. I I
completely. I didn't even connect it when you call him
like hey, oh, crap. Now I know why you're calling. So I do
apologize for that. But that's how weird it can get. It's just
kind
of no worries. I've had that same experience during this
week. Oh, yeah. Because I mean, my work routine is I'm actually
busy. Right? Get up in the morning iron clothes. And you
know that whole routine now when you work from home, you just
kind of like roll out of bed, brush your teeth and write the
light up the first.
And there's the first wake and bake. Okay, everybody. Maybe you
iron you go iron your clothes, and they'll have that joint. So
I did not even look at the clips. I'm prepared for
everything. So I think we should unless you have something melts
mo I'll just spin the wheel. Go ahead. It's been a while. Here
we go. All right, it's the wheel of topics. Find out what was
going on today's mo facts with Adam curry. It's number 30. So
who knows? What we'll do the topic for today is
emergence for the spontaneous creation of sophisticated
behaviors and functions from large groups of simple
elements. Hmm. Okay, this is gonna be a wow ride. All right,
we'd like this from the show topic itself. We I think we have
like 10 throwback clips in this show. So we're going to cover a
lot of previous things that we discussed in previous shows that
way on one which show 30. So I want to catch people up if
they're just now starting to tune in on some of the things
we've talked about. And this the first set of clips we had is
what was the motivation for this topic? Because I think we've
witnessed some things and we've been covering some things on
this podcast, but annoyingly, we haven't classified them
correctly. All right, that's where we're headed. Oh, I
like that because we had the we've we've looked at a lot of
different topics, a lot of different similarities of things
and ended visual elements. And so now we're going to classify
him.
Yeah. Well, it really boils down to the to the reemergence. So
mean to the emergent So, yes, it's we're you had to follow me
here by speaking
in riddles. Mo. Yes.
Follow along and at the end of the show it all makes sense. All
right. All right, I'm ready to go. All right. So let's just hop
into Karen Hunter one.
I don't think and I've said this before, and I got a little heat
for it. But I don't think the Jesse Jackson endorsement does a
whole hell of a lot for Bernie Sanders, right? I think that
younger, younger black voters who are interested in Bernie
Sanders are going to be interested in Bernie Sanders
without, without Jesse Jackson, he is going to be very hard for
you to to get older black folks, my Pupu people who are my
parents age and a little bit younger than my parents, because
my parents are in their 70s to vote before anybody other than
Joe Biden, Joe Biden is somebody that they know somebody that
they respect, right. And for most of the people in my age
category, we don't have the same relationship with Jesse Jackson,
that that other black folks have right are the black folks.
First of all, who is this? I like his voice, he's got a great
voice.
This is Drew McCaskill. He is a crisis manager, Senior Vice
President, I think at Nielsen. Oh, he's a contributor at Sirius
radio. And this is on the Karen Hunter show. And they were
having a talk about black leadership and the impact of
black leadership. More specifically, they were talking
about Jesse Jackson. CO signing and endorsing Bernie Sanders.
Right.
Okay, got it. Got it.
So, this conversation over this next 123456 clips is what's set
my brain on the path that it went on. And it's not, it's
gonna be weird what rod? Okay, just follow along. Alright. But
now they're they're bringing up Jesse Jackson, has he said that
Jesse Jackson doesn't hold as much weight with younger voters,
or even so me and Mr. McCaskill is in the same age range. So we
didn't witness the run of 88. And Karen Hunter asked him a
question, what black people? And I'll let that let him answer
that question.
We know older black folks who actually had
a relationship do other older black folks, I have, I think,
you know, people who actually who people who saw Jesse Jackson
run in 88, and actually win a state who people who saw Jesse
Jackson, go and get them hostages and bring them hostages
back, I have a recollection of that. But for many people who
are younger than me who are in their 30s in their 20s. A lot of
what their association with Jesse Jackson is, is their
association is him, you know, be on a hot mic talking about Obama
and talking about Obama talking down to black folks. Right. And
so Jesse Jackson is is meaningful. He has he has a very
meaningful place in history. I do not think that his
endorsement moves the needle for any new black supporters for
Bernie Sanders. However, I just don't think he I don't think it
does. Now, I
must have missed this. I don't know what I was doing. But when
did Jesse Jackson negotiate for hostages?
I'm not sure. I mean, that did when he said it didn't register
on my memory.
I got well, yeah, I got it here. American civil rights leader
Reverend Jesse Jackson said Sunday he has had prayer with
the wife of Thomas. Oh, these were contractors abducted,
abducted in Iraq. 2000. Yeah.
That didn't register with me. I mean, what I know Jesse Jackson
was for being the heir apparent to Martin Luther King. Right.
Right. That's, that's what we're known for. But if you listen to
this conversation closely, they're explaining how he's
become a dinosaur. Right? He has, he's no more he has no more
use. This is the point that drew is making. And I think Karen is
agreeing with him so far, because he doesn't hold any
weight. And he actually wrote himself with that whole Obama if
people are not familiar, when he got caught in a hot mic at Fox
saying, I want to cut his nuts off. Refer to Obama. Well, yeah,
I have a theory of what, how that with where they came from
me. where that came from, is Obama was able to circumvent the
civil rights movement. power structure.
Yeah. To get elected. Absolutely. He went, he went
right around it.
He went right around. He's not tied into there. So I think that
infuriated Jesse Jackson, but by him saying that he really put an
end to his career. And if you notice, that was the emergence
of Al Sharpton?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
So that was the transition to power there. But that's, that's
a tangent that I'm not trying to go on right now. But just to let
people know, the framing this conversation they have, but it
gets more interesting as they continue on.
And again, people we should have these discussions is not
personal. I have, you know, an interesting period to be in
where you just laid out some of Jesse's his Jesse, excuse me,
Jesse Jackson's history, and I want to be respectful because
the man did live a life of service. But there is a
complicated history, you know, and for me, you know, I come
into it with the spending the day with Martin Luther King's
blood on him and doing doing media. Shortly after, I didn't
like that I wasn't around for it, per se, I don't remember
being a conscious human being. But you know, I've studied and
read. And I feel like in many ways, he's part of the problem
of the last 50 years in the black community of so called
black leadership, somehow, personally benefiting and
becoming extremely wealthy. While not a whole lot has
happened in neighborhoods throughout this country.
That's the problem. When you're like Jesse Jackson, you're 78,
you've been around long enough. You know, people figured out
Obama after four or five years, they had plenty of time to say,
hey, wait a minute, what kind of game is this Jesse Jackson
running.
And what we one bullet that we need to put on a timeline is for
this whole show is 2007. That's when the smartphone came about.
When the smartphone came about information just went spread
like wildfire. And people became more educated, more informed on
the issue that she brought up because I brought this up on a
previous show. And a lot of people didn't know about Jesse
Jackson, having more of the king's blood on his shirt and
doing press conferences, right. And that's how I kind of
hijacked the whole the Martin Luther King's movement, but
after his death, that was not well known. And it's weird that
she says, I don't know, I say a weird a lie. I'm gonna stop
that. But it's just strange that she says, We had to give him
respect. What did he do? You accused him of doing something
as low as that and being basically paid she'll?
Okay, so she's spitting the truth, first of all, all right,
but I think it's time Mo, it's just look, you're you're just
getting old. You know, I've been around for a bit longer. And
this goes away. I mean, if you ask, a lot of people really
don't know much more, or even about MLK, they really don't. I
mean, that we've learned a lot from, from you and on this show.
But there's so many things. I think people just like I
whatever, I'm just doubtful or skeptic of the of the education
level, because because it is so long ago at this point.
But it's it's new news, if you never knew it. And I think you
got to follow me here, because this is what started this whole
separation. It ruin the whole Boulais power structure. There.
They've been rendered null and void. And I think that's why
she's handling him with kid gloves because she can be put in
that box later wrong. Oh, yes, of course. So it's like, well,
we got to easily legend need service and no, but he did some
lowdown dirty things like hot dogs. Either call them out.
Yeah. Well, I agree with you there. She was clearly doing one
of these. You know, it's almost like I hate Trump, but I like
some of the things he's doing. You know, it's like one of
those. It's like, well, you know, the guy's a paid shill,
but we can't forget that. You know, he was there with Jesse
when he had his blood on his shirt. So it's some kind of odd
respect that people do. And maybe it's also worried about
canceled culture. That's most of our problems come from people
just being too chickenshit just to say what they actually feel
or mean.
And I'm sure her demographics is made up of those older black
people that still have respect for Jesse Jackson.
I don't she's on Sirius XM. So I don't know. I mean, Sirius XM
audience is a pretty big black box. It could be no one
listening to this, but you
but she has to save herself. Of course she she has to save
herself because he's like, I don't want it. You know, it's
a job. She's got a gig. It's a good gig. You gotta be careful.
Yeah, the PA Our structure will come down. Of course,
absolutely. She you probably won't hear her saying anything
negative about China either. No. Okay.
What about? Well, you know, she's the one that last show,
she was the one that we don't need to call it the Chinese flu
or
exam with her modification point, of course, he's gonna be
very careful. That's the wokeness. That's killing
everybody. Now, of course, you don't have that problem here,
since we're value for value, but we'll talk about that later.
Correct. I think we stopped at three, so we can pick up before.
And I'm gonna say the same about Farrakhan. Y'all can ask me if
you want to, because I really feel like in many ways, there's
been a whole lot of charismatic black leadership without a whole
lot of results and receipts. And we need to have that
conversation too. Because as we move forward, I say we do away
with charismatic black leadership. And I say, the black
agenda, which we mapped out here last Wednesday and started
having a conversation about should be delivered by a council
of people we never see. I see what you're saying. Because
ultimately, from corporate America, who literally writes
checks, to check a box to say I've supported black people, to
organizations where that money, I don't know where it goes,
right. Because I haven't seen neighborhoods built. I haven't
seen tech programs built. I have not seen education programs. I
haven't seen the results of the checks that are delivered to
these organizations, which I know for a fact corporate
America, they're doing that. Yeah, I've written some of those
literally giving checks to organizations under the guise of
black leadership.
Wow, she's got quite, that's good. I'm like, Yeah, of course.
What do you expect?
It's a lot in that clip that we got to unpack one Farrakhan. She
said, all caught up Farrakhan to another dinosaur. Yep. This is,
I'm gonna show you how real I am by throwing the dinosaurs under
the bus. And making a clear line of demarcation mo
it's move fast Jurassic Park additions, what we're taught,
right?
So they're rolling those, you know, the older heads under the
bus. But it's funny that recently, she just had our
shark, Al Sharpton on her show. And she didn't press him like
that.
Well, so as you point out, just powers transferred.
Yeah. And but he has the same business model as Jesse Jackson.
Yeah. But
he's, but he's on MSNBC. He's part of the structure. He's part
of the machine.
That is correct. So this is when people like me and my age and
are aware, hear this, we smell the BS? Because like, how do you
cut? How do you how sharpened on your show, but you call out
Jesse and Farrakhan you know, corporation or writing checks to
these people? And if you hurt listen closely, Drew even said,
Yeah, I wrote, I wrote some of those checks. Yeah. So they
understand the whole power structure, how it works, but now
all of a sudden, you have a conscious that you want to call
it out. And then the third thing she brought up is all this Black
Agenda she started suddenly halves. What What was it say? 20
years ago?
I gotta ask you, MO. Because yeah, you listen to the you
listen to Karen Hunter a lot. Is this very popular to a lot of
people listen to Karen Hunter show that you know, I mean, is
there a lot of action around this show?
I'm not sure. Because like, it can, when you search for clips,
then algo gets, you know, it gets whatever. Yeah, it starts
throwing it there. And it's not gonna like I'm targeting her.
But it's a very interesting,
it's a good example of what's happening. That and
she's walking in line. And I said this before her and Steven
a Smith, are very close with each other. I found that out on
another show I had that she had him on his show had him on her
show. And they I mean, basically she groomed him at the newsroom
they worked at and that kind of thing. And when I'm saying by
that is she walks that line the same way he does. I'm a black
man, but I'm going to protect the corporation I work for. I'm
not going to step out of line, that kind of thing.
Right? That's 99.99% Of all people in mainstream media.
This is true, but don't make yourself seem like you're
different. Then these other charismatic leaders,
like mo you're telling me that people in the mainstream are
full of crap. Oh, no.
They're so full of crap. But the difference is 12 years ago, she
could have got away with this. But oh,
yeah, it doesn't work anymore not not with Moe facts around a
dozen
and Neff. And that's where we're headed is she doesn't realize
she's a dinosaur. She's a younger dinosaur.
Right now that she's made it. She's making the mistake that
because she's in Inez, the fancy studio built with.com money on a
Sirius XM, she thinks she has some power. Whereas, of course,
we know that the model everything about her shows that
she doesn't because she can't she can't say anything she
wants. She has to say this, she has to keep it going. But
that's the role. That's the role that she had now is let's throw
the dinosaur. Let's throw the older black leaders under the
bus. Let's throw out the key words Black Agenda, you know,
and I'll seem hip.
So but what was interesting here is she advocates for a council
and not for black leaders anymore. No longer recognizable
leaders. But like an unseen kind of like an unseen hand of people
behind the scenes who call all the the good shots.
Yes. mostly made up probably an academia.
technocrats we call them technocrats. Yes. Yeah. So
that's the new that's the new model like, oh, you know, the
talking heads are bad. You know, the Al Sharpton is in the Jesse
Jackson's and though the ferret cons are bad. What we need is
people behind the scenes doing doing the work, you know, that
kind of thing. Since when has that ever worked? Since never.
But I always take the temperature by going to the
comments, I looked at thumbs down count, and people are not
buying it. They're not bad. We know that. Either. You're
Boulais you're not I mean, there's different flavors of
Boulais. But I mean, that's the litmus test. When when it when
you come to the hard questions of telling people not to vote,
that's one of the test. What do you stay in a corporate own
asset have to hold the party line, no matter what the party
is they have to hold the party in line where Oh, you know, vote
down ballot or we need to scrutinize closely. No one will
say that's half corporate backing. I'm not voting right.
These are this is litmus litmus test that we can put to them.
And unlike unlike by
the way, unlike the the hardcore Bernie people who now I think,
see the writing on the wall, they're saying, Oh, we're not
voting. We're not voting. We're not just not going to vote.
We're done. And I don't think it's the hardcore black Bernie
voters.
Carry I will tell you to put your goggles on but you're right
on time. Whoo. That's That's my point. When black people were
saying a so called black people, quote unquote, black people were
saying this, what maybe a year ago, if you don't meet our
demands, we're going to walk Yeah, if you don't put a
candidate up, we're going to walk the whole democratic party
liberal to Blue Dog was saying that you can't do that. You have
to vote you know your ancestors died so you could vote right but
now all of a sudden may candidate and it's weird because
they have the demo day Max. It didn't mix I think he's called
Yeah, that was that was part of this show as well. And I didn't
I just didn't add any clips to support it. But that was like,
Oh, now you now you get it. You know the you. The establishment
has boxed you out. But they want your vote steel. Yeah, of
course. Welcome to the club. Yeah, so
I'm Chipman even Tulsi is endorsed Joe Biden came believe
that that's this, that was really disappointing.
When you're when you're taught to establishment money, and this
goes to show why value for value is so important, because we have
the freedom to not only call out people to say be called out, but
those that are seeing untouchable, right. We can go
out to them too. And it's not this the vendetta but it's like
we're gonna we're gonna have one standard here. So we can
continue on with
that standard is poverty, Mo, poverty and podcast. We have we
hold ourselves to a high standard. Okay. We'll get to
that later. All right, good. Let's now we will reopen it next
year. Roman, it's
five now, so that they can go back and feel corporately
responsible. We've given millions of dollars to black
people. But black people aren't getting the money. The black
leaders are.
Yeah, and I can tell you as somebody who used to write those
checks, is that most corporations look at those
dollars that they spend, you know how old old black folks
talk about At the time, like that, listen, God said, I need
to give this give this tip and whatever the pastor do with that
money is on him. I did what God said I'm supposed to do. And I
had Peskin set that money on fire if he wants to, but I did
what I'm supposed to do. Corporations are like all black
folks that tied that what I'm going to write this check to
insert the blank organization that we all know we we've all
been to the to the breakfast, the banquets and the luncheons
and the galas, right. We'll write that check. Now what they
do with that money because they are black, they know black
people, they know the black community. They're in there in
there in the arena. Our job is not to be in the rain. Our job
is to support the people who are in their arena. That's the best
that we can do. But we're going to give them this money and now
what they do with it after that.
Don't come to us and say we're racist. Because we gave the
check.
And when somebody comes in when somebody internally says we're
racist, we want you to defend us.
So I was while he was talking, I looked up some of his previous
employers. And the big one that he worked well Unilever's one
and I but he got started Weber Shandwick, and Weaver shanwick
is a public relations company. So when he says I wrote those
checks, that's where he was writing him. He was writing
checks as a PR company on behalf of firms. Because that's what
those guys do. They consult on who you who you should support
how you communicate your support.
Can we lay out how that chain of events work? Because I think we
may make some assumptions here that people understand how that
works. So say a CEO goes on till television, and maybe a black
face picture pops up from their college years.
Well, that's crisis management. Yeah. So if that environment,
which
he is a creditor as well.
So, okay, exactly.
It was two ways. It gave two ways it can happen. Well, it was
a planned, unplanned,
yes. Well, it would, yeah, correct. It would be better. A
better example is something happens with a corporation. So
you know, so let's say, let's say MasterCard puts Harriet
Tubman on MasterCard, doing a Wakanda salute. This is a good
example. So outrage ensues. Now big corporations often have
their own. Well, they, they have their own communications
department. But when it comes to something like that, you need to
really tamp that down quickly, because you got shareholders
publicly listed or you know, shaming Kancil culture to the
call up, it's typically Hill and Knowlton, that's a really famous
one. But Weber Weber Shandwick does it as well. And they will
give you a strategy and in the case of race in the United
States often not works two ways. I personally believe you can
call Al Sharpton and say Hey, could you please come in?
Demonstrate outside my office so we can do a speech together. And
we'll resolve this by promising not to do anything bad, and
we'll give you a million dollars for your action network. Now,
it's it may be that people like Al Sharpton will smell the money
and go there on their own accord. But I think at this
point, you can just call you can schedule them, you know, you
can, you can schedule them to come and you do a little script,
and you give them some money, and it goes to the the Action
Network and everything's Jhansi jolly, and you can put out a
great press release, and it does work.
And the act is important because he just can't come in like, oh,
yeah, everything's okay. He has to put up
the dose. He's gonna do the demonstration. The bullhorn you
got to do the whole thing. Yeah, you gotta you gotta go through
the whole the whole rigmarole. Yes.
And one of these cases that we seen, I think we discussed in
the show is Jay Z and the NFL. The NFL got in a pickle. Yep.
They said, Hey, can we get to come in get a consultant? Yeah,
that was like, you know, what?
What store can we get find black fellow that we write is married
to that girl. The girl is so popular.
Get Jay Z on the phone and Jay Z like what? Oh, eight figures?
Okay. Yep, write him the check. He comes in. They put the arm
around. He asked the tough questions, and it failed,
doesn't have anything
to do. He doesn't have to even plan anything.
Now he just comes in and you know, turn the charisma on. But
I just want people to understand how this works. And it's not by
happenstance. It's a strategy. Yes. And it's moving pieces, but
this strategy is antiquated. It no longer works because people
know what the play is. It's like Oh, okay. Shot. Michelle's up.
sharpenings outrage. Go there. Oh, we're going to take them to
the wall. The Oh may go into back room. Oh, we come out.
They're very sorry we set him straight you know they're gonna
be more culturally sensitive and then they throw know a couple
million dollars and tell program. My poor kids laptops in
the inner city and everything.
And I will say I think I think Sharpton needs to be looking
over his shoulder too. We I think we need a new sharpen Newt
someone new has to stand up in this game pretty soon in the
next five years.
Well, we talked about that and that's what DRAM McKesson and
telco Max.
Oh, talcum ex.
Shaun king.
Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yep. That's very simple. Yes.
Because the boots on the ground now is the the outrage and
council culture online. Right. That's the That's the new play.
Yeah. But we no longer can use the Reverend credentials with
the new with the new guard. So I'm not quite sure what what
they're using as their credentials, is activists,
activists. Activists is the new the new activist is the new Rev.
Gotcha act is Rev. Got it. Got it. Got it totally on. Yep.
So they bring him in. But if this is going somewhere, well,
now when you see the inner workings of how, and she knows
this, but when I can see it when they have these events happen,
and these characters show up. She's never called them out
before. She'd never said oh, look, you know, they're rolling
out there. They're talking heads. Now. She She plays along
away as well. Yeah. But I guess we can go again to clip six,
if a company is racist. And that said company gave millions of
dollars to the people who are supposed to hold those companies
accountable. Are they more or less likely to hold those
companies accountable? Just put it out there. You know, you're
doing it as you as you may. Maybe this is a good bump. Maybe
it's not? There's a story circulating about Joe Biden's
but what's being whispered in backrooms regarding what his
team will look like. And I bring this up because Trump is a great
example of what a team should not look like. Yeah. Great
example. There's a lot circulating about Joe Biden's
mental health. Let me just go on record. I don't care if he has
one brain cell left. Don't don't care.
There you go. That's a real American view of who you're
voting for. Ladies and gentlemen, beautiful marker
right there. Nice. So
the very thing she does criticize these leaders for
doing? She turns around and does it at the end of the clip, isn't
that great? No matter what he could have one brain sale. I
don't care. I don't care. I'm gonna vote for who the people
that put the battery in my back want me to, to push? Yes. And
that's this is where we got to now we're now we're here. A lot
of people, post 2007. The invention of the smartphone gave
people access to a large amount of information, people aren't
walking around with laptops to show you or, you know, our
desktops. They've come on to my desktop, let me show you this,
right. But now with links, social media, you can share two
things. The information has been there for almost 13 years now.
These people are rendered null and void. And where this takes
us is we've seen two things happen. And we they've been
labeled with hashtags, but they are real movements. And we're
gonna get into how they were hijacked. And I'm just going to
do a little foreshadowing of the two event. One, the creation of
Athos, to the term Brexit. Those two things are real event. But
they were hijacked by astroturf. And it kind of made them seem
like not real things. And like they could be explained away.
Exactly what happened to the tea party in 2008. Correct. There
was a real tea party was actually started by Ron Paul.
And it got hijacked, and before he knew it was Steve Bannon.
First thing that went fast. Yeah, these things happen.
Yes, but they have been mislabeled or misunderstood.
Because people don't understand the groundswell that gave them
the field to become a real movement in the first place.
Real movements. Yes. And but then they became fake movements
behind the media covered them. Yeah, Russia, but the movement
is still there. Okay, you could call it another name if you want
to, but the movement is there. Now, this is where we get into
some background clips, just because we want to, we want to
find certain things. So when we on today's show, if it's your
first time listening, you may be jarred by the term white
supremacy. So what we want to do here is this is from show 12,
nearly fuller defined what white supremacy is.
Well, we are on a system of white supremacy. That's the most
powerful government that the world has ever seen. And that's
the title of it. By the way, it doesn't go by and you know, the
title even though we sometimes call it by other titles, but the
accurate title for the government that we are under is
in capital letters. The system of white supremacy worldwide is
just one world government and national only government and
town, the only government on the planet that really counts. That
is worthy of having a title of government.
Yeah. Okay,
I'm on board with this.
So this is where we I want to lay out something I want people
to think about it and use you Adam and please push back if you
think this is crazy. I will. I think people experiencing what
black people experience with racism with the Coronavirus?
Yes. And I thank you for saying that. My sister just left me a
voicemail. It's half of it's in Dutch so I can't play it won't
make any sense to lend me a voice message. She's she's in
Italy, and she's in Florence and she's been keeping me updated on
what's going on. And she, you'll love this. So she went to the
supermarket. She knows the right time now. 430 in the afternoon.
It's restocked, but everybody almost everybody in the store
had a face mask on. And my sister she's like, I didn't know
I don't have a face mask on. And people were given her stink eye
looking around the corner at her you know just a hole and she
said she said quite literally, I felt like I was being targeted
like it was a racist thing.
Well, that reason locks
Hey, MO That really sucks man.
So let me draw that analogy and make it flesh it out here
Coronavirus racism there are two things you can't see. You don't
know if you're going to encounter it or not. The numbers
are really scary when you look at the numbers but if it's
inside your head yes, it's there. Yeah, you're scared to go
places. You're scared to interact with people because
you're like, oh, they might be racist. I might counter a racist
you know, have a racist encounter. So a segment of black
people are really scared to move around. And I want people to
really put yourself in their shoes because this is how they
feel like you said when she walked into the store it her
natural state. So I know you Oh, you must you must obey that and
this is the agenda. What's your spirits in now? Well, you have
to have a piece of paper to walk around well, that stop and frisk
that's our device betta Yeah, that you've right. Oh shit and
write that down. That is stop and frisk. Yeah. Wow. So this is
a actually Coronavirus should be a great learning moment for the
nation.
I want two people to empathize. Now, when we because we can say
by the numbers are well, it's not a real threat in the flu.
And this is the here's another analogy. When you say okay, cops
kill Black people. The rebuttal to that is well black people
kill Black people black on black crime, right. The parallel to
that is Coronas killing people. Well, the flu kills 1000 more
people. You've made
your very good point. And I think the of course we can go on
and make these comparisons over and over again. But I when I
heard my sister's message, and I think when I just said it. I
actually I thought for a fleeting moment. I'm like, Oh, I
know exactly how that felt. You know, I think we all can
understand that kind of feeling. But when it actually hits you
and I felt it, you know by you know, because of my sister. So I
felt that moment. That's a pretty special thing to
experience as I said, socks.
So I just I just lay that out there as just a side. Note you
people.
You better be wearing a mask then for sure you don't want to
get double racism. You go WTF
So I say these things just so when when you hear the rest of
the show you can empathize with them. Now when I put my white
supremacist hat on, which is which is pointed? Oh, of course.
Americans often compared to Rome, Empire, correct? Sure we
hit yes, yes. So to maintain a empire, you had to have a
strategy of let's listen to barbarians rise, rising rise and
fall of an empire.
Rome, conquered what we called, at the time, the known world,
and Rome, power grew based on fear.
When Rome conquered its enemy, it didn't just leave them to
their own devices, it moved in it set up systems, there were
points of inclusion, there are points of suppression. And
ultimately, there's a system that really worked for Rome to
remain in power.
Rome wants a number of things from the territories of
Congress, it wants wealth, he wants glory, and it wants human
capital, it wants slaves.
Yeah, weaponizing fear
weaponizing fear. Also, they said, they can't leave their
people to their own devices. So they set up systems of
inclusion. That will be the parallel to that will be the
Boulay. You know, if you you will protect the kingdom and the
Empire will find a spot for you. They suppress others. So if we
say Rome, as the Empire, and they operate in this way, why
wouldn't we say the American empire will operate in this way?
Or any empire for that matter? Or any or any airport? Yeah, I'm
just saying these are the latest two, and Asia operate the same
way, where you go back and read they that's very
Nazi Germany.
Yes. Russia, the point I'm making here is, you have to have
a system of dealing with people that you conquered. So it's not
far fetched that this system exists. When you when you get
ready to free millions of people, and let them live in
your inside your walls got to have a control mechanism you got
to have, and you just heard that and the first set of clips, this
is how the control mechanism works is we have people on
inside. When we need to be bailed out, we'll get them on
the phone, if we need them to come. We need to calm people
down. We have the mechanisms in place, being one of MLK, I told
you how he was used, not him personally. But his image was
used to was used to as a calming mechanism or a control mechanism
over over black people right when when they start to get
rowdy or upset. But now what what King do what would Dr. King
calm down? You know, so these things exist?
What do we have? What do we have now? We don't have that we don't
have a person we say what would well Denzel Washington of
course,
well still king. That's why they protect us. That's why they
protect his image and cultivate his image.
But it is just that it's just image there's no more substance
to it.
No, it's no more No, no, no, no, not at all. Because he's a
complex person. With very with all these people, they're very
complex, but they boil them down to a a tool. So just to say that
so now we say we can we can all agree that the system is this
and it makes sense for the system. Is this if you want to
maintain
harmony in the empire? Yes. Keep everything calm at the ranch.
Yes. Oh, another throwback clip. Showing how favorites one of my
kids just to show how that conversation happened in modern
times, is trick baby
from 1974. As you liberals who have lifted them up, Howard,
you conservatives make a mistake. You can't afford to
strangle hope and people without hope. People become dangerous.
No, are you liberals have let them invade our society. You
give them jobs, political job. Oh, you
missed the point. Only the smart ones we move up.
That makes it even worse. No, no, we have to
move them up. If we leave a smart one in the ghetto, you
might develop into a leader against us. But if we raise him
up into white society, we neutralize it. It feels
compelled to try to act like us. He loses his identity and his
racial anger. If it hasn't, he becomes alien to his brothers.
They realize he sold them out and they grow to hate him. Even
comes worthless to them, and say for us, no thank you. In fact,
in his love for the creature comforts except for his color,
he's become one of us.
Better Being. So this is the point we're at now that we're
figuring out these leaders are tools of gentleman like in this
clip, they have a good talking game, they get the people
motivated, they use control mechanisms such as MLK, Jesus,
the Bible, those kinds of things. To maintain the power
over the group they're trying to control. Right? It's and they
were at the behest of, of their or their handlers. But it's not
an exclusive black thing. Of course, this group, every group,
yeah, of course not. So now we understand the system, we
understand and modern times how they enact the system. And in
the previous setup, the first set of clips, we actually seen
the system being unveiled by people that operate inside the
system of Mr. Yeah, I wrote those checks before.
Isn't that great? That I did that? Well, I think he's, he's
only signaling to her and maybe a few other I don't think anyone
else caught that. No one else is, figures out what he's
taught. I don't think they know what he's talking about.
Well goes over my head. I will think when I say this is the
word I use woke, and it's that word is so poorly used now and
just has been, it's also been hijacked. He has been hijacked.
It's being aware. So if you understand the system, it's
like, Okay, here's the players. I think a lot of people, more
people than you would think, understand the system now,
because of the information that has been pumped out. Due to this
information age. I mean, the information a started what maybe
the 90s, I believe, but access to that information. Didn't
happen really, to 2000 said, correct, being readily readily
available. So now we move on to another throwback clip. And this
is from Episode 13. And this is one of our one of the show
favorites. Kanye West.
I gotta think Man, black people are like the housekeepers of
America. Think about how your housekeeper you're saying they
got a certain volume they supposed to talk in house we got
a certain volume we supposed to talk in America. So what do you
think if a housekeeper is screaming in my house? What do
you think the other housekeepers gonna tell them?
Be quiet? Be quiet? Yay.
Be quiet again. don't disrupt the house. don't disrupt
America. Yay. We orphans out here but don't disrupt
there is what if What if some people feel like you signed with
the slave master to if we're in the house and is to Trump
household? It's like, just like she has you siding with with the
slave master. If we're if we're both in the House, then I see
you rolling through wearing a red hat. I'm like, man, he just
like this dude over here. And my speaking it, maybe are others
thinking that maybe. But I'm saying how do we separate that?
If we're both in the House, we like man.
I rather deal with somebody who call me and word to my face. And
a person assigned me for a lifetime deal on a 255
page on my contract. Got you.
I got you. I rather know what I'm dealing with. That's why
when I walk in when anyone and keep knocking on my chest, I'll
be like, This is what I'm dealing with. But I'm here. This
was this is what I'm dealing with. It has been
institutionalized slave mastery and slavery. Our mentality is
only one of the two. Now we need to find freedom.
Yeah, that was a that was the which interview was that again?
That was what him in big boy. Big Boy. Right? Right. Right.
Yeah, big boy. So what Kanye was saying is that we see now our
eyes have been open. And now we have the choice to continue to
be mental slaves. Or we can be have what some refer to is a
ruling class mentality. And that is that I'm not gonna be a
subject to anybody. I'm gonna think for myself, I'm gonna have
a freedom of thought. I'm gonna use my own brain. I'm not gonna
participate in group thing. You're not going to shame me
into thinking a certain way. You're not going to shame me
into being quiet. When I call out things, it's safe to say I
mean, if I say, oh, Trump is this or that people like oh,
yeah, that clap. Yeah. But if you call out the other side's
like, she can't say that. You can't say that about Joe Biden.
You can't say that about Hillary Clinton. You know, whoever the
other side is because A perfect example. Going back to the
Coronavirus, when the Chinese saw that this was being labeled
a narrative of being a Chinese disease, they sent their message
out there. No, no, this is not gonna be a Chinese disease.
They called CNN, say, Hey, watch Oh, yeah, this has been this has
been a big one. It's I will say that people are catching on to
these things slowly, but people are catching on. Now ask
this question. Why is it that that didn't happen when crime is
associated with black people, or illegitimacy, children,
illegitimate children, or associated black people why
nobody ever pushed back against that talking point. They don't
have any real power
and no power, no money you didn't get it gotta give people
money to make him say stuff. That's how I see it working with
the Chinese. Right, a lot of money, a lot of
a lot, a lot of mine. A lot of a lot of biscuits, a lot of butter
B's biscuits. Yeah, a lot of a lot of butter biscuits. So the
next question is, well, how do they control masses. This is
another throwback clip from show five. And I'm doing this for a
reason why is to bring people in this your first show, you can
kind of get, or I mean, maybe your third or fourth show, you
can kind of get where when we say things that passing, you can
understand a linear view of how these things connect.
And you can always go back to those episodes and listen to
them. They're evergreen, so you can listen to them any time.
True. What we want to do here hit and this is inspired by a
couple of DMS I got of maybe I need to lay this case out
linearly. And then people can understand the how the dots
connect. Okay, so we okay, there's a system we agreed upon
that that system employs black people, as the leaders to keep
the masses of black people down. That's simply because they're
trying to maintain the empire that they have. Which what we
call white supremacy is really another term used for globalism,
the Illuminati or wherever you want to call it. We're there.
Now, what tool did they use to control black people?
Advertising? Marketing what?
And one of the most powerful tools in advertising is
nostalgia.
Teddy told me the most important idea in advertising is new.
creates an itch. You simply put your product in there as a kind
of calamine lotion. But he also talks about a deeper bond with
the product. Nostalgia It's delicate,
the potent. Teddy told me that in Greek, nostalgia literally
means the pain from an old wound to twinge in your heart. far
more powerful than memory alone.
That was from madmen? Yes, that's from one of my favorite
shows madmen one of my favorite characters of all time, Mr. Don
Draper. So witness Daljit how they use it as a tool is through
images. You see, all black and white pictures of the people
marching and the dogs and the water hoses are either
lynchings, slave ships, niching. auction block, they use certain
terms. Yes. Music,
of course, these are these are all reinforced through trauma
based entertainment. These images are reinforced and the
and the trauma and the deep rooted nostalgia as it's defined
here is kept intact to get brought to the front and and
activated anytime.
And that nostalgia and it's buried deep into the core of you
as a person. I think younger people don't have that. And I
think that's why going back to the first of the clips with
Karen and drew. It doesn't read Jesse Jackson doesn't register
with the young people. Because it's not it's not nostalgia for
it's not an establishment for them. Whereas the older people
Oh yeah, I remember Jesse from the push in the rainbow
coalition and He was with Dr. King, you know, that's the
that's the line that they draw with younger people is not
there. So what they have to do is they have to mix. And Don
Draper said in the clip, the two more power things one is new. So
they take the new and mix it with the Oh, the new Black
Panther Party. The new civil rights. Right, right, right. So
it's like, let me know you put the new with the old and then I
can trigger you into controlling your thoughts. So what is it
about this is another thought back clip from Episode 22. One
of the most powerful tools they had was the Highlander school
song.
It was in the civil rights struggle that Highlander became
most famous and famous for a song. How that happened is a
textbook example of Highlander working exactly the way it was
designed. From the start, the Civil Rights Movement had songs,
lots of songs, but it didn't have a song, one unifying and
irresistible anthem that not only said who they were, but
that musically expressed all their hope, determination and
spirit Septima Clark, Pete Seeger and a new young staffer
named Guy Carolann began adapting an old hymn turned
labor song that Sylvia love to sing, the word will was changed
to shall, some verses were fitted to the new movements,
goals, and the tempo was changed, so people could march
to it better. It became, we shall overcome.
We shall overcome. Deep in my heart, I
do believe we shall
overcome.
And that was a great segment you did when we went through that.
That's fantastic. No one knows that.
In three, and in a previous show to 22, we heard three separate
news organizations use the same song, right to trigger that
nostalgia. Like, okay, let's put this to the soundtrack. If we
had video, you will see it was in the grainy black and white.
And it triggers you. It's like, okay, now we have them
triggered. Now we download the module. So
now, it seems to me that a lot of these things no longer work
that well, I think the trauma, the trauma stuffs is still
legit. And it still works that trauma imagery. But we're
missing. We're missing some of these events. And people connect
to this too old. You know what I mean?
That that was the problem with technology that the time the
cycle time cycles sped up. Yeah. Whereas you used to get 20 years
out of a good good dammit, propaganda. Yeah. Now you're
lucky to get 20 days. Yeah, I mean, look how fast things are
going. And he's like, even with this, this epidemic that we have
going on now. It's gonna eventually gonna burn out.
People. I mean, unless you constantly start ratcheting it
up the death count the death toll, or, you know, something
new people going blind, or whatever, you know, and it's
just going to Yeah, exactly. It's going to fade away. And I
think that's what they're experiencing now. So it's like,
crap, we don't have the control when and they're scrambling to
say, how do we get them back in a gun control? Oh, so now one of
one of the people I like to listen to, just for their point
of view. And their perspective is Sadhguru. And he shared with
us the importance of a name.
This venom of somebody occupies a nation, any conquering forces,
when the takeover certain nations, first thing they will
do is they'll change your name. This is the technology of
dominance. This is the technology of enslaving human.
See, if you look at the African American history, when African
people were brought in, the first thing is at the port, the
names were changed, whatever, they had African names, they
were taken away and some silly names will be given. That's what
has been done to us through an entrepreneur is Trivandrum.
Okay, tonight he's mad, Madras. We don't know whether we're mad
or we rascals like this India, what does it mean? It doesn't
mean anything. So if I give you a meaningless name, you will
become a meaningless stupid person in front of me because I
have a meaningful name, I have a tradition I have a culture you
have nothing interesting.
And he used the term there that I want us to fall away is the
technology a dominance? So what we just described about how an
empire maintains power? It's a technology is the actual science
is the science to
Well, I actually have the theory of technol technology dominance.
About this let me see if there's a they have an actual definition
here. Then we just see the theory of technology dominance.
TTD posits that a decision maker may become reliant on an
intelligent decision aid under two conditions. Let's continue
this warrants more research.
Whenever these terms comes up, we want to come up with their
their route, it's somewhere Well, it's what he brought the
point when they brought Africans here, they changed their names.
Yeah, one of the things that we've talked about from roots is
the Toby St. Yep. That was the breaking of the old and giving
you your new identity.
You know, there's also something to be said, For Trump doing that
by nicknaming the people.
He defies you the way he wants to define you.
And it was very sleepy. It's very low energy.
Many Mike I mean, now, when you think of a person, you don't
think about them in their natural state. Yeah, he's
defined for you.
It's one of the one of Trump's most basic building blocks
really.
He tears you down to build you up into the image that he wants
to see you in
the term fake news is, of course, a very good one. I'd
like so
now we're getting to well, when are we talking about on the
personal level name are we talking about on the group level
name? Let's get into clip two.
This is the first thing because the concept of a nation must
sink into everybody's mind. Yes. Because nation is just an idea.
When this idea burns through, burns through your mind and
sinks into your heart and your passion is risen towards that,
then you have a real nation, otherwise, nation is just in the
paper. This is an unfortunate reality for us right now. So at
least when they left in 1947, the first thing we should have
done is change the name in such a way that it resonates in some
way in everybody's mind. Now you you you're using an English name
for an Indian Nation, hardly two 3% of us can speak English
language in this country properly. Okay. The remaining
people are essentially left out. I think this is one thing I
would like to request the president Prime Minister women's
rename this country in a way it reverberates in everybody's
heart.
I didn't know there was an issue with India's name.
Yeah. They don't like it. Clearly, English is an English
word. Well, if that works for them, think how it works for us.
You took us we were colored the N word. And we went from that to
Negro to African American or no, well, black and then African
American. None of these things were decided by us.
Wait, just a couple more. Come on. Let's see. That's not the
only ones colored. You forgot your skip color people and then
people of color. You skipped all the
novel. Well, we stopped it stopping at Black for now. But
yeah, I mean, if you want to go past that point, now as people
of color because we don't really want you to be black anymore.
wants you to be you know, that's that's too that's too detailed.
I love I love how this sticks in your craw man. This is my
favorite because you hear it every all day long. You hear
people of color and I'm like, wow, these people are
alienating, alienating themselves.
Now that is the technology dominant?
Yes, true.
That's what that is. No, no, no, no, no, you're not black
anymore. We're that's to say there's two specific just one
colors. Yeah, we need you to you know, be more of a group group
into this group over here of colors. But let's just stop at
black for a minute because another throwback clip or show
18 Where Amazon's the psychic. She gives us the definition of
the meaning of black.
Always open alleys on psychic secrets.com. I'm a white which
spell caster and sidekick. I want to talk about a color black
and its meaning. Black is not strictly a color. As it is the
absence of all color. It absorbs all aspects of light. Black is
viewed as a mysterious, secretive and hidden color and
has many negative connotations. Black can be very protective for
people suffering from low self esteem long moods or other
mental health issues, they use the color black to protect them
from the outside world and hide away their true feelings and
emotions. Great care should be taken not to use too much of the
color black or cold they can deck or as it is very draining
and depressing. Of along the meaning the black has some
negative connotations, it does in fact, enhance any positive
elements given by other colors. So wearing black with another
color will promote and strengthen the benefits of that
color.
Why else do you think I'm hanging out with you? Mo?
I'm accentuating your one.
Yes, yes, thank you. I'm shining. I'm such a bright light
now.
Now think about that. If this name that they given us, which
is a color has that much negative meaning behind the if
you embrace that name one, you've given up your actual
identity. Yes, that's that's bad enough. But it's like, now I'm
going to be this thing. And even in the you know, the irony of
that clip, she refers to herself as a white which Why
yes, exactly. Because white. Yeah, white is good. Black is
bad. Yeah, suck.
So now I'll post a embrace this title that you've created for
me, which was created through the arts and corporations, they
actually created black. on Black Friday bass, my mom, when did we
start? When did we start being black? I mean, that's what's
fairly new. What did your mom say? She said around the time
and the James Brown song. And the Black Power movement, which
James Brown song, I'm black, and I'm proud.
Okay, but without doubt, there's a lot of black people who have
helped this on board. I mean, if I need to count every day, the
number of people of color who talk about people of color, I'd
be rich by now. So today, yes, it's enabling that that from
from the people themselves?
Yes. instead of us having the power structure say that the
Chinese have they say we're not going to take on these negative
memes. And you know, what?
This shows you wealth versus ownership. So every NBA player,
there's only a few who are white, every NBA player could do
this could stand up and say no China, but they want because
China actually owns them.
Very true. And we covered that in that episode with Lebron
James and China. Yep. And NBA. Yep. You don't you don't bite
the hand that feeds you. So that's, they give you a mound of
wealth that's so large that you can't imagine living without
without it. Yeah. So that's the control mechanism over you.
Yes, but everybody? And I think, yeah, this has been on my mind a
lot. The control mechanism is the canceled culture. It is the
it's that it is the canceled culture. Because canceled
culture happens in business. It happens in politics. It happens
in popular culture, that happens everywhere. And people are
scared shitless of it. Hmm, there's there's stuff you won't
do within the company you work at. Regardless, regardless of
race, your stuff, you're just not going to say you're not
going to do. But you know, maybe there's even people who don't
really know what you do on the podcast for you know, because
you're like, I don't want anyone to know, I don't want any
problems.
That's very true. And this is the balancing act that you kind
of got to have. Yeah. But we're all human. We all have strings
that can be pulled to Hell yeah. But you also have to say, You
know what, I'm not going to cross that line. Even if it
costs me I'm not going to cross will have
a mature intellectual human being will do this. Yes. But you
got to go through a lot of years of figuring it out before you
get to that point.
But I want to I want to push back against that because
growing up, that was the default for being quote unquote, black.
That's where the term keeping it real comes from. You see, this
is not the understanding of being black, is that you gotta
keep it real. You know, that's how we that's our Mo we'll give
it to you straight. You know, we're gonna give you how we feel
about we want to give it to you straight in. And if you don't,
then you're considered a sellout.
We dive into that a second for me. You mean you're keeping it
real? But you keeping it real amongst yourselves? Or are you
keeping it real? Are you real with me? I mean, I don't
understand exactly what keeping
it real everywhere. I mean, that's, that's the fault
setting. Now as you get older, and you get a mortgage, and you
get, you know, those things start to get chipped away at.
Okay? I agree, I Okay, you make it, you make a very valid point,
once you have responsibility in stuff you don't want to lose
when you're young. Of course, it's easier to be a
revolutionary, but it's exactly at the point where you should be
pushing back or taught. You don't have those tools. You
haven't felt the pain yet, of being fired or canceled.
And people should be teaching you are leading are leading you
astray. Yes.
Well, yes.
There you go. True. So So moving forward. Adam, do you remember
how we crossed paths? Because we're gonna get in this. This is
heading to where we? Well, it was with the aid off issue.
Right. Yeah.
Then you you reached out to me, and we had a long conversation,
you explain to me how the what the eight awesome movement was?
And yeah, that's that was the initial contact.
And what that was, was the same thing that Sadhguru guru was
saying that we need to redo find ourselves. Right? It was a
nation. I mean, we're not a nation within ourselves. But we
are in a way of saying we don't want to be called Black anymore.
We don't because it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean the
same thing that it used to mean. So people started gravitating
around this hashtag hate us. And it became in what I'm saying is
that the groundswell was there. And then the hash tag just gave
that groundswell and an identity. Right. So that that's
best.
Well, so you're trying to rename yourself and take back the power
by creating your own name only that got hijacked.
It got hijacked. Oh, because it's a lineage. It's not a it's
not a it's not a political movement. My existence is not a
political movement. It's a It's who you are my identity. Yeah.
So before we get into the A das movement and know just how the
world perceives it, let's listen to Mr. Dr. Amos Wilson, speak on
culture and problem solving.
Looking at the question, what is culture hoarding, and he said,
from life from their life experiences, a group develops a
set of rules and procedures for meeting their needs. The set of
rules and procedures together with a supporting set of ideas
and values is called a culture to a great extent your co
culture involves a set of rules, and a procedure for meeting
needs. And this thing we have to keep in mind, you don't have a
coach, you just have a culture. And you don't claim a culture,
just because it's a culture just because it's African. The
ultimate thing that culture must do is solve problems. That's why
people evolve a culture. That's why culture comes into existence
as a way of what solving problems and meeting needs.
That's why at a certain point, when a culture no longer meets
the needs of a people, or solve the problem confronting a
people, that culture must be transformed.
Well, there we are, at the moment of transformation, then
if we've got the old dinosaurs getting kicked out.
And this is one of the things that I think we glossed over,
including myself, because I just start wandering back and like,
we're at a very important moment in time. Black people are fine
saying no, you're not gonna call me African American, you're not
because that doesn't mean anything. You're not gonna call
me black, because that doesn't mean anything. I'm not gonna be
a person of color. I'm gonna identify myself. And we have
several different terms that people use. We've discussed it
on the show, you have a Das, foundational, foundational
black, then you have native blacks, but they're all saying
the same thing is one large group of people. Now they may be
not agreeing on what they want to be called, but they do agree
that you're not going to call me this anymore. I'm not going to
be the term that you define for me.
I find using a dos a very useful code.
Okay, and I've
seen enough Act, was it. Some guy in Australia, it was Chris
Wilson. I can't remember who it was.
Yeah, it was. Yeah.
He threw down a Dawson, someone who was in a shop somewhere he
was at and it's like, when you that's like it immediately opens
up an entire relationship when you do that? Because it is I
think it is universally recognized among a Dawson when
you I mean, isn't it? Does everyone know this term? Or do
you think it still needs some has some traction that needs to
get to gain or the
people that subscribe to it? It is. Now sir, some people want to
cling to the old. They had they even went through this with with
going from Negro to black. The older people want to claim to
Negro coming because that's your identity, right? Then the
younger people want it now to claim to black because that's
they want to re redefine themselves, not realizing that
they were redefining themselves to something that was pre
selected for him. They wanted to redefine ourselves. And that's
where we are now because we're like, No, I'm not. I'm not a
color. And I'm not the same as somebody that comes to hear from
other places that don't have the lineage.
And that's the biggest problem. And that's where, as I've
learned by doing the show with you, that's where most of the
abuse comes from, is well, you know, the is I'm black. Yeah,
but you're Dynamis from slavery? Well, it's Jamaican or you know,
other West Indies is not this, you do not have the same story.
As a DDoS. In America, you just don't have the same story. And
you're kind of weaseling in on their action.
And just think about it from the standpoint of you have a
political power is trying to group you aim it to something
more vague than black and to people of color, color people.
And you're trying to say no, no, no, no, I want to be a subset of
black. Right? That's the breadth of problems. We got to deal with
you, you blacks, like now you want to define yourself as
something smaller? That's no good. Right? That's no good at
all. But let's let Dr. Amos Wilson continue.
There's nothing sacred about holding the culture in the face
of, you know, new new events and new changes. Unless, of course,
you're free to do that, if you're willing also to accept
suicide. And you have that right? To that choice. You know,
we have the right to say, look, we are going to hold on to this
culture, even if it kills us, but we should be very conscious
of our decision, we should not be holding on to it out of a
misunderstanding of what culture is supposed to do. Ultimately,
culture is supposed to solve problems, and to meet the needs
of the people. And a culture then has to be measured against
those standards.
Okay. And as he said, you can hold on to this bad culture. And
he's speaking from a different time, because I think this
record, it may be in the maybe late 80s, early 90s. Now, Black
has been defined as criminal justice reform. Basically
criminals. We don't have fathers, we have broken homes,
the crack epidemic, all of these negative things, rap music,
sexually promiscuous, all these things. This is the new black
culture. And it's like, Oh, you don't want to find yourself as
that. Because as soon as you bring up when you say the word
black, a politician says, oh, yeah, I'm all for criminal
reform. Oh, well, that becomes synonymous. Right. And where's
the where's the pushback against that? I just draw it against the
Coronavirus with the Chinese. Where's that? Where's that type
of pushback to say? No. That's a small sub sub segment of, of our
population, but it's not who we are as a people. But no, it's it
helps political capital. So they say oh, yeah, yeah, criminal
justice. Yeah. What are you gonna? Yeah. Fix that for us?
Yeah, so yeah,
I hadn't thought about that. But yes, that's true. That's
correct. And of course, in the past, as we've seen many of the
people who stood up to help or you thought you were helping
were really in on the game and keeping the the power structure
in place. So maybe, you know, people are wary now. Where are
the strong leaders? Where Where's where's the leader of
the future? Who's gonna say
dominate this may never existed? I mean, if you go back all the
way to Margaret Sanger, they'd never existed. They've I mean,
we talked about in the show has had a handler
is that a handler within this? Yep. You're so right.
So people are distrusting. have leaders in general, which
that's, that's the school of thought I come from? Well, we're
gonna get going, I get that.
And this is why we connected intellectually, and I think
really because but we both know, lizard people around the world.
And I think that was one of our main connectors. So but so this
should not be a struggle of a DOS, it's a struggle of all
humankind, really against the rulers who keep us down in many
different ways. Their race, or religion or sexuality. It's just
happening in every group.
Yeah, and we all have different paths to take to get to, quote
unquote, freedom. Yes, I
chose the path of podcaster. And it's working out so far.
Right. Another one is just being financially independent outside
of the structure. Yes, we've seen a lot of people will say a
lot of people are nervous now. Because they bought into the
globalist agenda, and now your goods can't get delivered? Or,
you know, or you they could tell you stay in house. Don't move.
Shut up. Are you going? Are you coming back?
That's, that's the one I'm most worried. I'll give you my quick
theory as a preview, because I'll be talking about it on
tomorrow's show. How beautiful is it? Now, if we could say, All
right, everybody, we made it through this one. But what we
discovered is people use 40%, less pollutive stuff. So we, our
co2 levels went down, there was less carbon in the air, we can
actually beat climate change. If we stay home every once in a
while. We'll make it a regular thing every once every quarter,
and then people will stay home for five days. And we'll go
through this crap and and look, well, we'll win, we'll win and
all kinds of services will help us with this. Anyway, that's,
that's my brief theory.
And it's funny you had that thought, because I had the same
thought that I'm looking at the numbers from work, and nothing's
really changed.
Except everybody's working from home. What's changed is you
don't need the expensive offices every day.
Exactly. Guess what you're always on? Even better. You're
always, you know, not o'clock at night. You can't say, oh, I'm
not in the office. I'll get to that in the morning. No, no, no,
your office is at home. That's right. Look at that Jenkins
where those TPS reports. Right.
So yeah, that there is going to be some chat and I brought that
up on last show. This is going to have some long lasting impact
of change. Yes. So now we're at a Das. Das itself? Well, let's
get to the clip we're talking about afterwards.
The ADOS movement is a group of persons who seek to position
African American people black American people who are
descendants of American slaves, and out of that lineage, and a
self aware group that has a specific justice claim, due to
the inherited disadvantage of slavery, Jim Crow, convict
leasing, mass incarceration, redlining. And finally,
immigration, American descendants of slaves feel that
reparations are the key policy prescription and remedy.
Amos Jones thinks that if the US government had dealt with the
country's newly freed slaves properly, the black American
community would look much different than it does today
from an economic standpoint. Instead, he feels discriminatory
race based laws and policies position black America as a
permanent underclass. And something needs to be done about
that now.
When I stopped calling it black Americans and black underclass
that would
start I mean, you have the term right there.
You got a das right there and now let's call it black
Americans got it? Yes, I see the stylus see that
because we're not going to recognize it. We're not I mean,
I say we were taught and this is from Turkish news, tr T. This is
a term and I want to use how does that world how is this
being communicated to the world? That's why use this This. This?
Yeah, good choice news news vessel because I want to see how
it's being broadcast to the world and that you put an ad in
any case that they said it quickly in the clip itself.
Yeah. Oh, yes. Eight losses to black, you know, black people,
you know, the black black sight, dude, how about wherever you did
that with pronouns?
Oh, you canceled canceled,
you imagine that? So so it wants to be recognized as this
pronoun, but I'm gonna call them by the pronoun I've been calling
them by. Wow, interesting.
So hold on, so we have misgendering. So it'd be your
preferred pronoun. So how do we use that with a DOS, you can't
say
Ms prefer and lineage.
Your ms lineagen. Me, man, it doesn't sound right, we need
something different. We can work on it. I'm working on the on the
marketing side of this, you know, I'm, I'm ahead of you
already. I'm like, I'm ready to go to work.
So I want to let people know how this worked. You had a group of
people that needed an identity, because they didn't like the
identity that were being used being used on them. And they
were being supplied with to you so they gravitated towards this.
I have to admit, a Das is a beautiful hashtag. It's a
beautiful term. It just from the Linguistics of it, it rolls
right off your tongue a das even better than dos. Um, because
it's like, it's like eight hours. I mean, it goes up and
goes down. I mean, wish it matters. We, we, as you know,
you are in in marketing, where you're giving something a
product name. It has to roll off the tongue, it has to be
balanced as well. Yes. So eight off his balance. went across the
social media. Wildfire,
I would just like to say yes, yes to what you said. But
there's something not right about it. And I can't really put
my finger on it. It's not a thing. If for some reason, it's
not. It feels like it's less sticky. I'm not quite sure why.
Don't know why. It's, I just I've never felt that it really
worked. I get it. I think part of it is pronunciation meant
familiarity with it. So that's the biggest problem is if you
hear a lot of people saying aid Austin, it'd be cool. If we got
you know, if if we had, you know, Oprah say a DDoS. First of
all, that would be like, way too hilarious. But it that term
needs to come in because there's still for me it even is it ADOS
is it eight oz? What is it? Exactly? That wasn't really
clear. And so it's yes, it's good, but it has problems
getting out of the gate. And let me explain. You really don't
Yes, it has to be everyone knows what Black is everyone know what
African is everyone was American. Everyone knows what
they think they know what color it is. So it does warrant
explanation. And I actually think the coolers particularly
in today's lingo, if a lot of people would use it, it would
catch on real fast. But it's not that and it's not that's why
they attacked it. Because it was it was to be used. Yes. To the
time
it really picked up. I mean, we saw like you said with the Tea
Party. Beautiful. is self explanatory. It's like tea. Oh,
yeah. Like, you know, like the Boston Tea Party. Okay. Yeah.
But look how they sit. No, we're gonna we're gonna rebrand this
as this or that. They did the same thing. All their bots.
They're Russian bots. So that's why that move. That was a
strategic plan to No, no, we can't let this pick up steam.
And they actually rebranded it as a hate group. And the
equivalent to is mag, which is another beautiful.
Yes, yeah, you're right. It's
almost the exact
male. Well, interestingly, Well, interestingly, I think they're
both the same thing. If you can take the black and white out of
it, they are. It's the same thing. But it's, it's they're
both positive. In my mind. If you look at the origins, you
know, of course, anything can be explained any way you want it.
But in, in essence, it's just a term people just want, they want
to say, hey, we're building something, we're gonna be a part
of something. And an A das needs to wear the hats man was my A
das hat.
Well, that's a whole nother story. We got to get into what
happened with that. But let's get into the second clip from
TRT.
We're making that claim now because we're getting to a dire
point here. As of the, what we see on the horizon, a $70
trillion wealth transfer from Baby Boomers to their issue. We
know that we're living a reflection, wealth wise of our
grandparents than if your grandparents were in a Jim Crow
ghetto, which all black Americans were with few
exceptions in this country due to those policies that we just
discussed, then we're going to be in a world of trouble, and we
will have nothing and be nothing and we will never be able to
climb out. And that's not there because we built the country for
free.
But should the solution lean so heavily on financial
compensation? Dr. Carter thinks that the approach to reparations
should be more comprehensive,
right? We're essentially trying to fix something that was
broken. And there are a number of ways to approach that and
when you're talking about the African American communities,
this can happen on a number of domains. too. And that doesn't
necessarily mean every individual person who is Black
gets some amount of money. Because when we monetize it, and
you do that, so take money in exchange for your pain, that
transaction essentially says that we are done here. Right,
legally I affixed you, and therefore, I don't want to hear
anything else about it. And I think what we're talking about
when you're when we're thinking about reparations is the more
holistic picture. And that is not going to be fixed with one
check.
Yes, it will. Yes, yes. People make a mental note of this. When
you start talking about cash money, then people are now well,
we don't really want to check. You know, we're not holistic
approach. No. That's not how this world works. Everything you
know, you could, however, whatever, when you take people
to court for pain and suffering, or whatever it is, it's a check.
Yes, when you when you sign an NDA to shut up about being
sexually harassed at work in you get a big check.
It's how it works. We're over it we're past it this week, come to
$1 amount. Go ahead. Well, what's
interesting is, you know, we're now about to give every man
woman and child in America within certain limits, a check,
an actual check the mechanism exists, it can actually be done
lo and behold, and no curry
No, you can't solve these people problem with cash. We need a
holistic approach. Imagine if they tried to flood it you stuck
in your house we
will give you a holistic holistic answers to your
problems. Yes. That does that exists outside of holistic.
Holistic is Greek for bullshit by the way, just let you know.
I know you if you we we get to the right number and just set it
aside. I did amazing how they came out there $2 trillion. So
fast.
Oh, yeah. When you when you when it when it involves white
people. He likes
it to be honest with you. I'm just gonna be 100% frank with
you. If White people weren't going to spend that money with
the real white people, they won't care either. Yeah, good
point. He's like, we got to keep the wheels greased, you know, to
keep our corporations run. And that's what that's all about.
But it's just amazing. Nobody's gonna say, oh, you know, you
know, those people over here, over there. They're not prepared
to get this 1000 or $2,000. Check. You know, we can't just
put cash out your hands. Yeah.
Because, you know, they won't know how they won't spend it.
Right. So it's exactly the same conversation. No, I thought of
this many times. Throughout this, this, we're gonna cut
everybody a check business. I'm like, wow, that's interesting. I
thought that wasn't possible. But you needed a committee? No,
no.
No, we need a council to figure out if this is going to work or
not. And maybe we need a study, smell to tree. There you go. And
then we're gonna cut checks to everybody. But when it comes to
us all, we just don't have it right now. And this is a pro a
das lady talking is because whoever power structures she's
under, they're like, oh, yeah, we're entertaining you. But when
it when the rubber meets the road? ixnay on Ash? No check for
you know, Mel cash. Yeah. So you asked the question about what
happened to Athos, the political group making clear that I have
to do this, because if not my inbox, so load up. We're talking
about eight or six political group? Well, I thought everybody
was on code of that was pushing the eighth OS, foundational
black, native black, exiting the democratic control that we're
not voting if we don't get anything tangible. Well, the
leadership a das went off code.
every word matters at this moment. Part of the reason that
we're talking voting brought down by like Democrat is to make
it clear that we're not a right wing propaganda tool. Because
right now, the four DS come into, into play, dismiss,
divide, destroy, you know, they're trying to they're
essentially trying to try to get us and call us right wing when
actually we're just demanding a black agenda. So as a result, we
can't get any fuel to the fire. And I think it's what I'm seeing
right now is an inability to really understand how important
that is. Imagery. How important it is to catch this thing as
what it is where black folks since 74 have voted 90%
Democrat, black folks win If you look at Latinos in the last
election, 65% of Latinos voted for, for the Democrats 35% voted
for Trump. When you look at whites 674, their rate of vote
for the Republicans has been over 50%. And for the Democrats,
it's been like 40%, the Democratic Party is our party.
The problem is that we haven't called on them with a specific
Black Agenda and demanded of them what they owe us. You don't
walk away from what they what somebody owes you, and say it's
because they don't want to recognize you without making
what I'm making a haymaker of a case. And that's what we're
doing right now.
So that's Antonio Moore, right? Yep. No, good. So how come? How
come he he doesn't even use the term Athos himself? Sometimes we
talk about black, black folk, black folk, black folks.
That's a good question. That's a very good. And I know that's a
pet peeve. But that's a very, honestly, that is a very good
question.
I mean, you know it now you've brought it to my attention. And
like, I mean, the number one thing you want to do if you're
trying to launch a brand new brand, want to use your, you
want to use your own branding.
You're exactly right. But this was this litmus test I was
talking about because me personally, I always when I
brought up the term Athos I let people know I'm talking lineage
not political group. Right. Lineage not political group.
I don't think I don't think a das even got enough runway to
even be remembered as a as part of it being a political group it
was it was squashed so early on that I don't think the term is
tainted
but they didn't like the leadership of the political
group Well no, they didn't like the terminal all we we have to
go and think about that logic. I have to go vote Democrats I
don't seem like a white right wing Republican group right. To
show the Democrats my power
No, no, that's that's the trick you've been that's the football
that keeps getting swept away from you.
And when he said that, it was like all the air went out of the
movement. Yeah. Because it's like you failed the test this
the test it and is it even for me folks? Even for me, if I come
up here talking about starts talking about why you know,
warming up to this guy, you know, even though he's gonna
give us nothing, you know, I mean, it makes me feel good
Yeah, but I
would I would bring the hammer down on your head so fast man is
no worries leave
now. Because what needs to happen is if we're going to be
and this goes back to what we're saying about a culture, a
culture is about problem solving. So we're forming this
culture to solve a problem that we've been neglected for you
know, since the inset the end of slavery by Oh yeah, you're gonna
get yours. You're gonna get your vote. We're talking four more
years vote we're talking four more years. Now it's like are
you gonna put something down on it? We need to deposit something
you know. It's no more talking but that's when he went off the
rails when and their whole blue group talking about voting down
ballot because that's a that's a con game in itself. Yeah, who
actually vote we vote straight ticket in America. Everyone
flips
up switch. Boom, yeah, yeah.
We drink Coke or Pepsi. That's how we roll. And you you bring
up the point of washer powders. That's how we that's how we
choose. So when he went, it was like he was hurting people into
the ballot box and you know how they're going to vote. You sit
there and check off every politician
and as an aside, we all know that tide really is the best.
I will tell you table that conversation
trying to learn something here. Alright, so
with that said, he got pushed back from Tariq nasheed.
Who was tariqa sheet again, who was he again? He
He is the creator of the foundational black American
movement. Right? And he's a film a documentary maker. And not a
political pundit, but I bet racial punch but if he's
if his his definition is foundational black, then he
would I guess not want to see a DDOS take off if his if he's
looking at that definition, or does he not mind?
I think everybody was moving in the same direction, even though
it was different names. The naming thing wasn't the concern
is that everybody's watching everybody to see. Okay, let's do
what Yeah. And how and I wasn't just picking on Karen Hunter,
every black person now,
they talked every eight hours.
Well, I say black for a reason, because we're talking about
Okay. Oh, the not eight off as well, that they're in high
population in the talking head circle. Yes, we vet them and
say, Okay, this is the list of things. Are they talking about
voting yes or no? Are they talking about reparations? Yes
or no. And when they say reparations, do they mean cash?
Do they mean a check? Or do they mean some kind of a meeting a
holistic approach a meeting? Now, and if you don't pass that
litmus test, then you have no more say. So in the
conversation. And this is the inverse. This is how the
counselor culture is being used against itself. So I know we can
counsel you, you know, you know, what is this thing?
Well, that is the ultimate the ultimate weapon that every
American has, is you got your vote. That's, that's the one
thing everybody has. And if and welcome to the true power. If
you can get all the votes that you want lined up for what you
want want them to do, you have real power.
But when they can use nostalgia, control leadership, to force you
to what they expect the outcome to be is, we didn't realize that
power. But that's why I keep going back to 2007. With the
invention of this easily movement of information, the
information age was here, but the actual move easily moving
information. Man, it really put a huge problem. Our our go out
and let me say this, if Barack Obama had decided to run in
2016, instead of 2008, he would have lost, he would have lost
Yeah.
Well, this show is part of part of that movement, Mo it goes
very slow. These things move much slower than you want them
to. My think
is moving fast though.
These things move slower than you'd like. I really I really
need to I got Tom. So what what the reason why I'm saying it's
moving fast is you've seen Kamala Harris get rendered to
nothing. And rightly so. Get Cory Booker couldn't even get
off the ground. You've seen a mini Mike, you know, the people
in the church, turn it back on him. And then that, you know, it
got broadcasted around the world opinion that was taken down. So
these things are moving a lot faster. And this is why this is
the
this is the de show in a nutshell what I'm talking about.
The fact that I had time to slow down, take a step back.
Those set of clips I started out with, I was headed in another
direction in a negative direction. But I had to stop and
think like, Wow, we got them on the ropes. If this thing doesn't
pan out in 2020, they're gonna have to have a whole new team.
Everybody got has to go. And that's a lot of power. And in a
short amount of time,
well, yes. And I think it's very well known. And I think they're
having them on the ropes may be true. Because I see the
conversation. I see how they're talking. I see all everything
they're doing to pander. And it's they don't have a lot of
ammo left. Really. I mean, Joe Biden has zero credibility,
except for you know, I'm sure older people and you know, who
just like I'd like Barak kind of whatever. I'm sure they still
fall into the trap, but I don't see him having any credibility
with with a dose at all.
Imagine if Obama tried to slap him as his running mate. Now
it's like whoa, Brock. What are you doing? The crime bill? Yeah,
that never came up. Oh, eight. No,
the game the game has obviously changed. Yes, obviously. And
there is some scrambling going on. I agree.
And it's beautiful. I'm loving it. I'm here today to let people
know I am at your own place in my life. I'm on a high cuz I
didn't realize what I was sick. I knew it. I saw it. But I
didn't really
well now it now is the time for a das to strike. me once. Once
Bernie's out of the way, which is I think clearly going to
happen. The time will be when Biden is the official candidate
whoever it is. That's the time to strike. That's windows.
Go Hey, the doomsday clock. to use that analogy for this, Tom
that we live in is going to be the voter turnout that number.
Yes. Which I think already at this point in my mind, I think
it's already enough to to prevent any Democrat from
winning the general election. I think there's enough already who
are not going to turn out that it'll already it's already a
foregone conclusion. But it was
when that number comes in. And I think what we say it was 63 men
and went to 57. I'm going I'm going off topic here. Here,
folks. Yeah, but brought into that 12 was 63. Sick 2016
Hillary got 57 If that number goes below 50. We got a whole
new ballgame. Yes. Well, we have a whole new ballgame, the
machine
will have to ratchet up some racism, talk about Trump.
They don't work. It doesn't work.
That's all. That's all. They know what to do. So that's the
only thing they've got, whether it works or not. I don't think
they haven't got no more bullets.
And I'm glad you brought that up. Because our first show, we
brought out one thing that I haven't mentioned in this show,
when Trump uttered those words, what do you have to lose? Yeah.
That's about it couldn't be unranked. Yep.
And he's using it again. By the way in the in the Coronavirus
fight. He's brought it up again. But not but this isn't he should
Yes. Because that's
that's his powerful? Yes. A very powerful statement. If you have
nothing to lose, inversely, that's mean, you have everything
to gain.
Yeah. And that sent ripple ripples through through through
through the community, right. People were talking to him.
It made you were starting to reassess the whole thing like,
Hey, your schools are bad. Your neighborhoods are bad. It's like
people been promising and stuff for 40 years. I mean, at least.
Have you started going back to like the 1960s when we talked
about when black people really pivoted to start voting
democratically. Yeah. So let's just get back on track here and
let's listen to Theresa, she's reply, my position
and everybody else is a lineage, but then it's also created by a
movement of politics, a very sustained politics around the
Black Agenda, and reparation.
Okay, so right there. Okay, so lineage, is a movement based
around politics or some political group? Okay, okay.
We'll say that. me get back to me. So this is what I'm saying.
Go save that and just be very upfront with it. This is a
political group that they have, that they've named the same
thing so that it can be conflated. That's him saying
it's the lineage, but it's also this political bank, too. So
it's a group that they've completed with the lineage. So
when you speak about the lineage, by proxy, you're
speaking about the group and you begin the group up? It's two
things. That's very deceptive. That's very deceptive. That's
the second you ain't talking about lineage no more. So if a
person out here, just saying yeah, I'm ados. And you think
and okay, I'm just supporting the lineage. And then they're
using that Tony nibandh. Well, that's, that's a member of that.
He's in my group. That's my group member. I'm the leader of
you understand where lineage you're telling me who to vote
for?
Yeah, he has a he has a good point, there was a bait and
switch can argue that can argue it.
You can't because it happened to me. But I mean, I I'm aware, I'm
aware enough to always preface my statements. And when I was
like, Okay, I gotta see where this is headed. Because we've, I
can say, if you know, the history of NAACP and these other
groups, it's like, wait a minute, where's his head? So he
brings up an excellent point. So what, what ideally, we want, it
was laid out by Malcolm X, and this is another throwback clip
from number show. Number 19.
The political philosophy of black nationalism only means
that the black man should control the politics and the
politicians in his own community. The time when white
people can come in our community and get us to vote for them so
that they can be our political leaders and tell us what to do
and what not to do is long gone.
By the seams hoping the time when that same white man,
knowing that your eyes are too far open, consider another Negro
into the community, get you and me to support him. So he can use
him to lead us astray. The old days are long gone.
No, they're not. Yes, they are.
Because it's still happening.
Oops, sorry. It's happening, but it's not effective. And that's
what you're saying now, MSNBC, CNN and other news channels,
they're running in place.
It's the twitching of the corpse. Is that what you're
saying?
That's exactly what it is. Yeah. They're running in place.
They're going nowhere fast. Because the votes you're gonna
get, you're gonna get I'm not being naive and say, Oh, well,
but you got to get those votes. Anyway, people already had that
Tuesday marked on their calendar that they had to go vote. So
you're not increasing, you know, the turnout? Right? What's
what's you're doing is you're overplaying your hand. And the
more you talk, the more you're losing yourself, or she make it
Yeah. Yeah. And and I'm enjoying it. And they haven't figured
that out yet. And another point I want to bring up is he uses
the term nationalism. Yes. Now, if you notice, nationalism has
become very popular again. Yes. When we talk about all we need
to manufacture is more stuff in America now. The medicines and
so why wouldn't we want that in our communities?
Well, you do, of course.
Yes. But now, but now used to be a nasty word. Less than a month
ago.
You know, well, things do change. This is true. And we've
seen some monumental shifts. What I what I guess what, what
I'm, I only know through you how big the A das movement is? I
mean, you're the gateway for me? Because I can't trust anybody I
see on on television, or hear in the media in general.
But apply the test to let go for anybody, all the listeners out
there, apply the test. And how do they wrap up their? Their
talking points? It's like, Oh, yeah. Now that's what we need to
go out and vote on Tuesday now. No, no, no,
I understand. What I'm saying is that the A Das, the hashtag, a
das cultural movement is largely invisible because it's being
kept invisible.
But if there is like it's bigger, and that's the point I'm
trying to make is, is bigger than a Das. That that is there.
I mean, now what you want
to call, it doesn't need the term, the vibe is there.
Yeah. And they fit the vibe to create the term is not the term
didn't create the vibe. And that's what I'm trying to
communicate here that
you've communicated. I get it. I know. But that's why I'm asking.
Okay, now, yeah, it's there.
And that. That's the point of this, this whole episode is to
let people know, no, they didn't whatever coined that term didn't
create the movement. It was already there. It just
gravitated towards that, and easily recognizable term.
And I've heard you predicted, but is the movement strong
enough? And but I disagree with sending the Democrats a message.
I mean, I think there's other ways you can go about it if this
truly this movement, because you're still going after the
people who have promised you the football for 40 years and you're
still you're still going to play with them the although you're
going to reverse flip the script by not turning out do you really
think it's big, it's big enough that the turnout will be so low
that it will make that difference that it will cause
any Democrat to lose and it will be because of this this swelling
feeling of we just Terminus a DOS, we're now
57 already had them losing. If nothing changes from 2016, there
are at a losing position. Right? And it's not that we're I'm
speaking personally now, it's not that I am going to run to
the other side and vote. But me not voting helps the other side
you understand? I mean, that's why I always bring up the term
negative vote, right? That is a real thing, because he's, you
know what, I know what me not going on Tuesday. That what that
I understand that power? I don't have to go vote for a sock, I'm
not going to mislead them or miss construe the fact that I'm
all on board with you either. No, I'm standing back and says
what do you have to offer?
Well, okay, but so do you still going to be sitting around
waiting for them to offer something even though it's not
this time around? It's in two years or in four years? And
someone's gonna have to grab this this donkey by the reins
and and make something happen? Someone's got to stand up.
He's talking about from the group? Yes, of course. No, no,
no, no. And we're gonna get there. That's the that was the
whole topic of the show is about, we played the ISO clip.
We don't have to do anything. And I'll explain why. But let's,
let's wrap up with the second clip from ballot on the bullet
we must, we must understand the politics of our community. And
we must know we must know what politics play in our lives. And
until we become politically mature, we will always be misled
and led astray or deceived or maneuvered into supporting
someone politically, who doesn't have the good of our community.
And so the political philosophy of black nationalism only means
that we will have to carry on a program, a political program of
re education, to open up people's eyes make us become
more politically conscious politically mature, and then we
will whenever we get ready to cast our ballots, that ballot
will be class will be cast for a man of the community. The
community
all right. I think that was I think that was used for Barack
Obama a couple times.
Yeah. And it's politics. Yes. It's what do you have to offer
me in the next four years? And that's death is kind of like
we're voting mercenaries. not loyal to anything, but you know,
to the purse. Because what has loyalty got us this bar?
Nothing. Now what we could do is we could do Trump a salad and
not vote. So you're saying then see, he says, Okay, well, you
met me halfway or not? A not a non vote is meeting him halfway.
Now now, what are you gonna put on the table? You're trying to
get this new party off the ground, which I believe that's
what he's trying to do. I think Maga is going to be a political
party more than a political political movement. Okay,
interesting.
Is there is there is there enough on the table to entice us
to come over
is their spot right, right, right. Yeah. Like that.
This is where we're at. No more freebies. No, I got you.
Were no more freebies.
That's a great way of love freebies. Yeah, my vote.
We've been freebie in it for 40 years, no, no more. Now, you
gave me a perfect ally. And I'm open to leaving one miss a quote
unquote, plantation, and then going into the other plantation
met. And then what that is the analogy is, the Democratic Party
is a plantation that has black people on there for so long. And
we're and we've,
we've been hearing a lot of prominent figures say this
literally leave the democratic plantation.
Yes. was formalized under the term Brexit.
What do you get when you mix the words black and exit a new
political movement which wants to make black people stop
supporting Democrats, but how does Kanye fit in? Alright, top
of our news feed at Kanye West and Brexit. Now, as we know
Kanye, or Jay Z now wants to be known has been a vocal supporter
of President Trump from the very beginning. And running alongside
this has been a movement which has now officially called itself
Brexit. Basically, it tells black Americans to leave the
Democratic Party and vote Republican and its founder
suggested Kanye was part of it. But overnight, Kanye West said
no.
My eyes are now wide open. And I now realize I've been used to
spread messages I don't believe in I am distancing myself from
politics and completely focusing on being creative.
Confused? Well, frankly, I can't she's here to explain.
Right. So this this was the movement spearheaded by Candace
Owens.
Correct. And this is the second groundswell and I'm not use that
word, but this is the second one. We were leaving anyway.
Yeah, the term Brexit didn't. We like we were comfortably with
when we were gonna vote democratic, and then the term
came along Brexit. It's like, oh, you know what, that's
interesting. Let me look into that. We were headed that way
anyway. But she comes along and current coining the term or
their stories out there that she stole the term for some other
person but that's here nor there. A slight Hold on What is
this Brexit thing?
Right but then Kanye felt that he was because I think I think
it was Candace, who was talking you made it sound like Kanye was
a part of it. And it was and his, and his, his art was being
used on some merchandise. And so, and I think that, you know,
someone got swept up thinking that you can, once you got Kanye
saying, okay, that you got him because you don't this is not
how Kanye is.
They were trying to leverage his celebrity to you know, to fuel
their movement. And it's
too bad because I think a lot of the right people were there. And
I think Kanye was the right person to bring into it. But
that was completely mismanaged.
It was and it was a cheat it was it was trying to cut corners,
big time, but let the person know what your plans is, you
know, and then if it if they onboard, and you do it, but
there was like, Oh, we want it for a quick boost. Yeah, quick
PR hit. Yeah, we want it we want to associate Kanye with this
movement, which which he was was not,
and they took the one thing they'd never should have done.
They took his art, whether it's musical art or drawing, that's
the one thing you don't touch that and that that was where
they I saw that happen like, stupid morons.
Because Candace Owens has great points that she makes, but I'm
the unfair. One thing you'll learn about me, I judge equally,
no matter, you know what you're saying? I judge your actions.
And I put the same litmus test to Brexit. And and Mrs. Owens,
as I do with anybody else. You can be saying the right things,
but let me know how you're going to finish your sentence. What's
the sale? Right? You get me all riled up. But what's the sale at
the end? Let's get into Brexit too.
Brexit is short for black exit. It's a call for black Americans
to stop supporting the Democratic Party. Black exits
website says the movement is the individual journeys of free
thinkers across the country. And please, for those who have
released themselves from the political orthodoxy. That is
from their long standing support for Democrats. conservative
activist Candace Owens explained the movement during its launch
last weekend,
you will color the city's like this room looks colored with
positivity and with hope progress that can only come from
a change of mindset. Lexa is a renaissance and I'm blessed to
say that this logo these colors were created by my dear friend
and fellow superhero Kanye West.
Yeah, also fellow superhero. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no,
no. So she comes in and you know, she sounds good. It sounds
good on paper. You know,
it was it was a monumental mistake.
It was. And another thing she said we're changing people mind.
These people minds were already changed. Well, that was just you
gave them something to rally around.
That's part of her superhero. She thinks that she's a
superhero that I didn't. I'm sure I heard her say that. But I
didn't register the first time I heard now I'm here and like, no,
no. It's wrong. Dumb.
Well, this will happen when you're propped up as it you
know, as a leader, amateur quote unquote, leader you start
believing in yourself. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm making these
people know that people already are looking for something to
rally around. You just gave them a turn around. Which blacks is
another great turn. It is it is. Yeah, Brexit is great. But it
was mismanaged, mishandled and it's tainted. Now. You can't use
it anymore. It's time at the same way. Oh, acid. Yep. But it
doesn't mean that it doesn't represent something that's real
true. And this is the narrative that I'm following here. But
let's get into Brexit three.
Kanye West was linked to this movement immediately. He's
previously described her as a friend and tweeted
this. I love the way Candace Owens thinks.
But now he has denied involvement with the campaign
tweeting
by introduce Candace to the person who made the logo, and
they didn't want their name on it. So she used mine. I never
wanted any association with Brexit. I have nothing to do
with it.
Kanye has had a difficult time with his mental health recently.
He's told the world he has been off his medication and have had
to apologize for inaccurate claims made on multiple
locations about the history of slavery in the United States.
Saying it was a choice.
Oh my god, don't even go there.
This is from TR T Yeah, same Turkish.
But that was the narrative that was decree aidid narrative is
that an attitude I heard the millennial white girls saying, I
don't like Kanye. He's racist. He says it was a choice. And
they didn't even look at what he said or listen. That's just how
I went around the Twitter, like, oh, man, I can't believe he said
that it was not a choice. And they don't even understand where
he's coming from.
He's crazy. And off his meds. That's right.
Yes, yes. And then then it became like, well, you know,
he's, he's, uh, he has problems. So let's just pour Kanye and
which is another way of marginalizing someone.
And I want to make one more point here. Even for myself.
Just a little inside baseball. If I happen to put a red hat on,
it can be very lucrative for me. That that does not mist on me.
On my YouTube channel, put a make America Make America Great
Again, hat on. Yeah, I can make a ton of money.
Yeah, but sleep becomes very difficult. It does. It's very
tough.
And what I'm trying to do here is build up something that's
gonna last, and it has integrity. And that that is what
you know, I put the value out there and people return the
value back to us.
I like new money. I don't know if you do, but I hate old money
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like to give stacks of money. It's fun. You ever had a stack
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And so I made the big stack which was brand new, and I like
brand new money. I just I don't want any money around me. It's
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That's kind of dumb. But there's something about new money that
excites you. You like $100 bills?
owe money to Oh,
most beautiful thing on earth is $100. Bill, I haven't seen a
woman is good looking at $100 bill that aren't available to
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That's right. No facts likes new money. We'd like any money. And
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Okay, so we're back. After this whole Brexit thing kicked off. I
noticed on YouTube it was a ton of these content creators start
putting Magga hats on. And I'm sorry.
That was after what after? What? After the Brexit? Ah, okay. All
right. Yeah,
the rot and the rise of Candace Owens. You start seeing content
creators putting the Magga hat on because one it'll boost your
numbers through the route to money into money
and bank in the bank. Interesting. One of these
people that I noticed was a he's also a co founder help found
blacks it was Brandon Tatum. Do you feel it breaking?
Because the other thing I said to right before we started was
the day that all the Democrats started talking about
reparations. I called candidates and I said this is because he
you Yeah, she quit she cause such a freakin split where it
needed to happen that suddenly the Democrats are like, Alright
guys, we're sort of losing some cash. Stay with us your whole
cold hard cash. And what's the number? I mean? That's the other
thing it's like there's never gonna be an number that's
enough, right?
Yeah. You know, because reparation enough stuff is the
stupidest idea ever.
What? Can you run that last 15 seconds? Yes.
What the heck did he just say it was a stupid second hand we did
last year we gave.
And what's the number? I mean, that's the other thing. It's
like there's never gonna be a number. That's enough. Right?
Yeah, you know? Yeah, it's because reparations in itself is
the stupidest idea ever.
Now, who is that saying that? That's Brandon Tatum. He's one
of the cofounders of Brexit. Yeah, you notice he's
also the he's one. He's Canada's his colleague. Right? Yeah. Yes.
And if
you notice, Ruben led him saying numbers and it's never gonna be
enough. Right? Right.
So they're both kind of anti
Well, or where the Red Hat. Right? And I'm not I'm not
linking this to Trump himself, because a lot of people put
their hat on to make a profit. What I'm saying is, you have to
stay in bounds, just like the lady with the TRT clip when she
was talking about all of our revenue. Oh, yeah, we need
reparations, but it needs to be comprehensive.
It's a cop out. It's either a cop out because you're, you're
really playing for the other team. Uh huh. Then you're a
trickster. Or it's a cop out because you're a pussy.
Their establishment on both sides? Yes. They are. They're
there's no way he can say oh, yeah, I'm I'm for reparations.
Now it's ISA is the dumbest thing ever,
ever. Yeah. Ever. Where was this interview done?
This was on The Rubin Report. Intro So and he and I forget his
name, but David led him with like David Davis. Right, right.
There's no numbers. They never come up with a number right?
What do you mean? It's amazing how all these people in politics
easy. Is the Oh no, get we don't know the number. Tells you 1.1
point $5 trillion. Just like that to Wall Street, right? From
the Federal Reserve. I mean, we delve down with another half a
trillion. Just like that. $1,000 checks everybody just like that.
But when it comes to pay a debt that's owed let's make sure I
clarify they're not looking for a handout right look if we made
whole like an oil or you're looking to be made whole
Yes. Now of course if you think you're going to be made hold
just but from a political party, that's never gonna happen. So
no,
I mean, that's done. Is the exercise and power. I
understand. Yeah, isn't that I'm not gonna say well, we're not
met yet. Check shows up. I'll be a complete human. I'm already
there. Yeah, but what I'm saying is when people is going to do
one or two things, one either we can work together or to leave me
alone. Yeah, if you're not talking when I'm talking to
leave me alone, I got better stuff to do not waste my time
and I'm not gonna waste your airtime putting people on there.
It's not gonna resonate with me. So I mean, let's do do both do
each other favor or put up or shut up? Yep. But Mr. Brennan
Tatum, aka dumbest thing ever, he continues on reparations.
We pay taxes deal with the latest pay taxes. I'm gonna pay
from all reparations. If I was to get if I were to get it.
Think about this. How much money they're gonna give
you? Well, they'll tell you they'll tell you that they're
gonna take it from billionaires. give you how much though?
That's not only gonna be not that people blow it out in the
weekend. 2000 Nothing 20 30,000 generational change $100,000 may
not be enough. It didn't if you don't know anything, if you're
not educated anything about finances 100,000 unless you work
I don't know. For months. I've had a friend that had to me I
think he got $2 million from a settlement blew it all have
nothing to show for. That's not what you just giving somebody
money. It's not going to help them at all. But that's that's
well and
also it never would be enough not just the literal amount but
like Okay, so let's say you gave every black person $50,000 Just
pick up a number. Well now you're two generations past that
right? And if the left just keeps going off the deep end
their grandchildren to go wait, you sold us out for 50 grand
true that was nothing true. You know, it's just it's almost the
reverse of the way human psychology actually works right?
And then you know, you know everybody knows when you give a
person something you just hand somebody something they don't
appreciate it as much. What kind of growth potential give me a
bit of education I don't need reparations of money.
Wow, these guys sound like to the dumbest guys ever. Hey, by
the way, by the way, by the way this so there's actually an A
das man sitting there saying we too stupid. We can't handle on
my Mac way too stupid.
And if if some can't handle it, none of them should get
it Yeah, disappointing.
But Where's where's the logic? But he were he put that hat on?
Right? It's forever it is not only on the left. And that's the
whole point of what I'm saying here. We're not beat up on the
left a lot. I do. But it's not only on the left. Of course not.
You? Of course not. I mean, well, I'm just saying this
because before the narrative was that Republicans don't care
anyway. So I mean, not even,
which is also not true. That's not true.
I'm just the narrative. Yeah. So now, when they finally have
people that they want to put in the spotlight, it's like, here's
your script. ixnay on reparations? Yeah, no, no, no.
Double down because this
is disappointing from Dave Rubin. I thought he was smarter
than that.
Well, he's in he's in the same position that Brennan Tatum is
in. This has always made the point that this is not color.
No. People it is a Dave. And no, don't don't get Brandon on there
and get out of law get caught up in the moment.
Well, but he also he also doesn't have advertising, you
know, so I'm not quite sure how he you know, he had Patreon. He
was very, very successful with a lot of that. i i I know just
this this was a disappointing one.
When when you don't get the invite is bigger than money.
Like Dave loaded talking crazy. You don't
get? Yeah, you're right. Yes, he does. He does cross over into
mainstream and gets invited on shows. Yeah, you're right.
The reason why I say that is Drew McCaskill said that Yeah,
we went to the brunches and in the galas and yeah, it's it's
bigger, dangerous money. Is the is the influence in the clicks.
In the access you get, yeah. But the beautiful thing about the
internet and the YouTube is this Mr. S This demist? Let's listen
to Mr. Brennan Tatum view. Oh, shit, everybody get $1,000.
Let's talk about a few things here. There has been talk about
everybody in America getting $1,000. Right? You have the
left. In a you have President Trump, you have the irrational.
And then you have the rational, I think is legitimate. That
because the government decided to shut down travel shut down
business, that the government should, in some form or fashion
stimulate the economy by subsidizing workers, and people
who own businesses. That makes perfect sense to me. Now, if
your business shut down, because you have foul practices that's
on you. That's not the government. But if the
government is responsible for arbitrarily saying that we need
to shut down our our whole economy, because of this virus
that's going around which I which I have my opinions about,
then I think it's the government that's just subsidized.
But reparations is the dumbest idea ever.
No problem again, why he's saying logic, there's gonna be
people out there to misuse that. $1,000 So nobody should get
$1,000 because they're stupid. Where's that logic? Can you see
it? No, I see it. That's the Red Hat effect. And I'm not like
it's I'm not putting this on Trump. But I'm putting this on.
He has to cater to his audience. And that's, that's the beauty of
what we do here. We say what we feel and then our audience
gravitates towards us. Yep. It's not like, Hey, Adam, we you
know, we need to make this point.
Yes. Oh, how annoying would that be? Along those lines, though,
having done this once, it will send an interesting template.
The next time the demand bubbles up reparations? Well, with MMT
modern monetary theory which is being applied here because this
money is made by the Federal Reserve overnight money is not
quite, it's not exactly us money. So. But we're, we're
going to come up with probably closer to $2 trillion dollars to
fix this two week shutdown if you can, believe it or not.
There's a lot more that comes from that's just me looking at
the overall new way that money is working. And as long as we
are the reserve currency of the world, we can print as much as
we want. And I think we should for a lot of different reasons.
But this would be a good one. And it goes against everything
that I've learned, by the way about the federal, the
principles of of money, but I think they're being thrown out
out the window. Now. It really, I got some bitcoin just in case
but I think it really doesn't matter anymore. So the template
will be set and the demand could come and it could happen. And
obviously, we can make it happen pretty quick.
And that litmus test is not exclusive to reparations. It's
10 tangible because it's something that I can see touch
for you, you know. So if you come to me and say, well, Athos
community, what we can come up with is, say a trillion dollars
in no interest loans, and we'll make your tax exempt. Okay, we
just start here. Because that's tangible. I can work with it
now. We'll do this before yours. Right. We'll come back to the
table. Oh, that's, yeah. And do another bargaining, you know,
another bargaining agreement. But just to say, and like I
said, Dave said, oh, there's no number. There's no number that
we could buy.
Thanks. Oh, thank you, Dave for negotiating on behalf of Athos.
But it's funny that these people like Candace Owens, and Brandon
Tatum and others, supporters of Trump, Bush, I use it very
loosely because I think for some, it's a money grab, they
love to throw around the name MLK, but for their own purposes,
this is where I go back get him being a tool. Because they right
to represent their blackness because their blackness isn't
because in question are met automatically, because we put
that red hat on the right, automatic assumption is you're
cool. Let's just be honest.
Yes, of course. So.
So then Erica, well, you know, MLK was a Republican, and you
know, they use all the talking points, because what's the point
in the air never, ever used? MLK, we're coming to get our
cit. At the
same time that America refused to give the Negro in Atlanta, an
act of Congress. Government was giving away millions of acres of
land in the West and the Midwest, which meant that it was
willing to undergird its white peasants from Europe with an
economic floor. But not only did they give the land, they built
land grant colleges with government money to teach them
how to farm. Not only that, they provided county agents to
further their expertise in farming. Not only that, they
provided low interest rates in order that they could mechanize
our farms. Not only that, today, many of these people are
receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies, not the fop.
And they're the Barrett people can't in the black man that he
ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. This is what we are
faced with. And this is a reality. Now when we come to
Washington, and this campaign, we are coming to get our check.
Yay. Have you ever heard that before? No, I
don't think so. No, I don't think I don't think I've ever
heard that. We're coming to get our check. So he
was the narrative. Right.
But reparations was in his mind. Hmm.
This is 68. This is that's why I said he was not I'll stand
behind that point that he was the grantor of his time. Yes.
When he became a man and started to mature more. He started to
see huh, this doesn't make any sense. That doesn't make any
sense. Maybe we need to pivot here pivot there. But no, no,
no, that doesn't fit inside the image that we need. Why is that?
Not on the more you know, commercial? We're coming to get
that check, the more you know.
Good one, and that's that what speech is that from? From a
speech? It's was that a speech was sermon? What was
it from a speech from from his former speech? I don't have the
speech right offhand. But it was in 1968. Towards the end of his
life. So yeah, it was past the point of no. Ah, you asked for
your civil rights, your integration. But you asked for
check now what I was just making the point that they love to use,
everybody loves to use him as a holiday as a tool, how they see
fit, but not ever represent him in this light.
And that's always That's always how I concert are used
posthumously.
Right. And this leads me to the point of why leaders are not
necessary. I know we disagreed on this point. But the simple
question here would support where I stand it. How do schools
of fish swim in harmony?
How do schools of fish swim in harmony? And how do the tiny
cells in your brain give rise to the complex thoughts, memories
and consciousness that are you? Oddly enough, those questions
have the same general answer, emergence for the spontaneous
creation of sophisticated behaviors and functions from
large groups of simple elements. Like many animals, fish stick
together in groups. But that's not just because they enjoy each
other's company. It's a matter of survival. schools of fish
exhibit complex swarming behaviors that help them evade
hungry predators, while a lone fish is quickly singled out as
easy prey. So which brilliant fish leader? Is the one in
charge? Actually, no one is, and everyone is. So what does that
mean? Okay.
I've always used this term schools of fish and flocks of
birds. That's how we need to be? Well,
yes. And the way to do that in 2020 is online. And that needs
to be done away from the established media networks,
because that's never going to happen, that will not be
allowed, that will be blocks that will be delisted, that will
be de platformed. It has to happen on the open Internet.
And the beauty of it is, as illustrated in this whole
episode, they already had happen. You had people excellent
and mass from voting democratic. Yes. That nobody, nobody was
like, Brexit tried to take credit for it. But that that was
already happening. These conversations are being had
between me and my friends.
Right. And I doubt I doubt if a movement like that would swell
again, on Twitter, I think that gets suppressed. Now. I think
people are on to it. And we can't have that happening. It's
not it's not that it doesn't make it possible. I'm just
saying it came to my attention, through hashtags and through
Twitter, all of it. And then it gets hijacked, discredited,
chopped down sent away doesn't mean that the schools of fish
aren't still communicating with each other, it makes it a hell
of a lot tougher.
But if we simplify the task of creating a culture, yes, not
going to rallies, not holding signs and marching and none of
that, I'm gonna raise my children to be productive in
society, we're going to have a to two parent household, we're
going to be educated, you know, we're not going to depend on
politics. Now we can leverage politics to be you know, saying
advantageous to us, we will do it. But we're not going to
depend upon it, we're going to be self reliant. That's how that
works. And I wanted to illustrate that that point,
because it's not that we're sitting around waiting for
somebody to give us something, it's like, we're going to be
busy doing what we need to do anyway, we're going to have a
ruling class mentality, we're not going to have a handout
mentality. Very good. That's why I play that kind of a clip.
Because either you're gonna have a slave slave mentality, a slave
master mentality, which I don't like the slave master term, but
it's more of having being independent and having a ruling
class mentality, right. And that can happen. Without any without
a leader meetings, or leaders or anything, it's just like, this
is the direction we need to go. Everybody needs to head west.
Okay. Well, we'll all head west at our own speed. But
eventually, we're all get there. So, if you want to play the part
two, how to fish swim? Yes, of
course I do. Of course,
while the school of fish is elegantly twisting, turning, and
dodging sharks in what looks like deliberate coordination,
each individual fish is actually just following two basic rules
that have nothing to do with the shark. One, stay close, but not
too close to your neighbor, and to keep swimming. As
individuals, the fish are focused on the minutiae of these
local interactions. But if enough fish join the group,
something remarkable happens. The movement of individual fish
is eclipsed by an entirely new entity, the school, which has
its own unique set of behaviors. The school isn't controlled by
any single fish, it simply emerges if you have enough fish,
following the right set of local rules. Yeah,
so how do you get this how do you organize the schools itself
organizing,
it's already happening. That's why I'm so joyous today because
I had an epiphany like, if alright, and you know, we've
we've been conditioned as being quote unquote, black people. To
our one day, the old promised lands coming one day, we're
already on the path. I mean, we're ahead of schedule for
these two groundswells that happen independently, nobody
coordinated these people tried to hijack it, or try to label it
right. Right, but that that already happened. We're ahead of
schedule. So now What we need to do is keep our distance because
but not too close, because that introduces the opportunity for
infiltration, which we talked about. Yeah, a lot here. And
then two is keep swimming. Keep keep swimming. And I know it
sounds oversimplify. But no, that's the only way this works.
Well, I for one, enjoy, enjoy this journey. I'm looking
forward to see. I mean, you're it was not on Twitter, it's I'm
not going to be exposed to it. So that's why I enjoy speaking
with you so much. Right? Because that's the only way I'll really
hear about Of course, we see this stuff pop up once in a
while. And now at least we know what to recognize is bogus or
not. And there's a lot of bogusness out there Boga.
tivity, I guess we should say,
yeah. And the fact that they have to keep re trying to
reinvent the will and restrict shape their message means we're
successful. is not working anymore. You know, we have the
antidote and the antidote is truth.
Last thing I'll say I find it probably be a good idea when
when the chosen Democrat loses the general election, which I I
am pretty convinced a lot of that will have to do with the
lack of the A das vote before the Democrat. It needs to be
made clear. To the winning party. That happened.
Well, I'll say this. Have no fear. We will be blamed from the
losing party. That will happen do you see yourself Adam
corsia Do
black man go be a father's in the you know, pillars. Net
community again? And
when they say that to me, I'm gonna be Uh huh. And I know one
one other guy over there that Mogae he's part of the problem
right there he did it.
And guess what I'm raising for more problems. Good.
Hi. Yes. And for Greg problems they will be Hey, Mo this has
been great man. This has been fantastic. And perfect. Also for
for this particular period where we get some time to reflect we
get to reflect on what you said earlier very important. With the
with the virus and how people are treating other people how
you can compare that to having a different skin color. It's very
powerful, very powerful to think about that and I appreciate you
bringing that once again.
And as I always say Adam, pay attention to everything and the
trooper really sell
and I look forward to more truth next week. We'll still be on
lockdown I think then we'll do it all over again around
Saturday right? Yes. All right. Well, thanks a lot man. We'll
talk to you next week. I see you later Adam. We'll be right here
IMO facts till then there's been so many has held us down but now
it looks like things are coming around. A long long way to go.
And when we're putting ourselves together. We have enough down
and know you refuse the hell down.