More facts with Adam curry for January 28 2020. This is episode
number 23. Hey Moe, how you doing?
I'm doing good. Adam, how about yourself?
Yeah, doing real good. Thank you. Actually, I had to think of
you today and the show. As I watched dolomite is, is my name.
Eddie Murphy movie. Have you seen that? No. How is it?
Really? Well, I don't want to, like praise it too much because
I thought Tina didn't want to watch it. And then she came home
like, oh, yeah, and I watched Dolomites, like I wanted to see
that. You know, it's like that in our family is cheating.
That's adultery right there. You know, that's,
you can't look ahead. You can't you can't
No, I don't look. She's the one that likes to look ahead. But I
I messed up on this movie. But I liked it. I think she's watching
it right now. He was really good. And it was true story. I
had no idea. I didn't know anything about dolomite on my
watch list, but with the kids around, you know. You got to
know I packed mine off. Couple years ago. Goodbye. Okay. Now
it's time for daddy to watch movies.
ties everything going? Yeah,
everything is good. I'm ready for another mo facts. Got a lot
of good feedback on episode 22. But mainly about Martin Luther
King, Jr. Yeah. And yeah, I saw a lot. You know, I wanted to
mention this to you. Twitter is racist. And I'll tell you why.
When, when I, when we put out a show, I tweet out a show. And
then you know, people are liking the tweet. And you know, then
I'll or you know, they have a comment, I'll reply. You know,
maybe I'll follow up person. And then within like, 24 hours, you
know, I've got a different Twitter feed. You know, it's
it's, there's a lot of Black Twitter coming into my feed. And
if I don't continuously do that, it Twitter just kind of phases
it out. And all sudden, like, where's the blackness in my
feet? I don't see anything.
It's like faucet or frost.
or dark. Tell the neighbors It's okay, honey.
No, but it's my fat finger to a light here. So it's good to
know, but it's really weird. And I don't know, I'm not
interacting enough or I don't know the algo somehow thinks
that I'm not interested just because I'm not following new
stuff or something. I know. It's weird. I don't like it. I think
it's annoying.
Yes. Well, I don't do social media too much. I just use it
pretty much for the show into DM. Yeah, the people from the
show.
Yeah, like, well, I use it as an inbox mainly. But from time to
time I want to follow a topic and I know just notice it
anyway, let's crank up the wheel here. And let's see what what
topic Moe has brought for us on episode number 23 of moe facts
without a courier. The wheel comes to a standstill.
We see. Okay, what is this whole like people of color label? Is
it just that we're not wait?
Yes, the third rail of race relations. Here we go people of
color which I cannot just let people know. I cannot stand that
term. I hate it. I hate very few things, but I hate it. Because
when I hear people of color, my brain does this weird thing and
says colored people.
Now do you believe you're unique in this or do you think this is
something that more Pete and more people would be irritated
by
if I have my wishes everybody would be irritated and do that
same change? Because all you did was take off the EB though and
oh f switched the words around and like oh yeah. People of
color. That's fine, but color people is offensive.
Social Justice Warrior hearts are breaking around the nation.
This should be headline news.
So with this show, we're going to get to people of color.
And women can I just say that? I specifically did not ask why
does it bother you I presume the next show will help unwrap this.
Actually the next clip
will colored it is just a word that has horrifying
connotations. It just brings back with it echoes of signs
that say no colors, hair colors not allowed. Think wherever you
are in the world, it just takes you immediately back to a
difficult time and rightly or wrongly and perhaps this is a
little mean of me. Whenever I hear a white person use the word
colored to describe black people I'm gonna assume you don't have
many black friends, it kind of just has some of the most
horrifying connotations it carries with it echoes of a very
difficult time. And it also carries with it my least
favorite argument in the world, which is when people say, it's
just a word. Words are all we have. And if somebody is telling
you that this is not the word that they want used about
themselves, and that's something that people need to learn to
respect. The reality is a lot of people still to this day are
confused by what word is acceptable, what word is
politically correct to use, which is a horrifying phrase, I
think the polite thing to do is to use the word that people
themselves are comfortable being used. And that is definitely not
colored.
So when I hear people of color, I literally see the sign on the
door, colored zone, or any black and white media videos, say,
color only, you're not going to play this mind game with me,
because this is what I think. And we're going to examine one
where the term came from, to how it is used. And three, the group
of people they chose not to box in this term, people of color or
POC. So like I said, when I hear this, I find it very offensive.
And as we always do, I had when I went on a hunt to figure out
where it came from. All right,
back back to ground zero. Yeah, so we
had to, we had to go back and figure out where it came from.
And it's not, it's not a race unpacking people of color.
Some of these terms are placed on us. And some of them like
people of color, and women of color come from within groups.
Loretta Ross is a feminist and educator. She told me how the
term women of color came from the US women's movement of the
1970s.
And how people of color
came afterwards to include men.
It was created as a statement of solidarity says people who are
oppressed because of their race or ethnic background would work
together, if not a biological designation so much as a
political designation.
Huh, okay, couple things in there. First of all, when you
say people of color that's also grouping a much wider group into
one is that how you take it
for Yeah, because who's included?
Anything not white?
First of all, we are not colors are we examined that before and
other show I use the term black just for the sake of argument,
and it's why I say quote, unquote, black community quote,
I say quote unquote, black a lot. And I mean, I don't harp on
it too much. But we are not colors. I'm not black, you're
not white. Oh, Hispanics, not brown. And then they use this
term Brown, like very loosely. Who's Brown is Asian people are
brown, are they still yellow? Is the is this is weird thing where
it's more like, it's more like losing an identity because
you're being lumped together with with a bunch of others
instead of gaining one which is also of course, questionable.
For a political purpose.
That's that was that was political. Exactly.
It's all political. So we formed this nice little box to put non
white people in and when we go back and think about why and
black and how that was established, that was to post
slavery. There was only really like two races, white and black.
The way they shaped it, right. And people that appeared to be
white could be KeePass. As we talked about last show, right?
The brown paper bag test. Yep. Yeah, with J. Edgar Hoover. He
passed. tons of other people
pass. By the way, I took another look at some pictures of J.
Edgar Hoover. Oh, man, you can totally see it.
Totally see it. That's what as you see it, you can see
oh, no, nice. Exactly. It's like one of those 3d pictures where
you don't see it and all sudden there's a statue of liberty. You
know that. That's what happens when you when you do an image
search on J. Edgar Hoover is like, okay, he's black.
That goes to show you about race in America, which is such a big
topic, but we probably had to do like a 10 part series just to
talk about what actual races are and who's what, what who's not.
Right but what they don't what politics is, it's a basic color
people means non white. Right? That's the only thing it means
right? So they lump you into this nice little box. But we're
gonna examine that often when people become American, quote
unquote, American. They come out of that box. But that's just a
little foreshadowing. Oh, you're probably wondering who Loretta
J. Ross is. She's an African American academic feminist and
activists who advocate advocates for reproductive justice. So he
spoke at the 1970s. Set. Well, I'll let her tell you and
Loretta roller.
Running, read a loss, there you go. Origin of the
loss the origin of the phrase a women of color,
younger when a term woman of color came from, he can say that
we're bad at transmitting history. In 1977, a group of
black women from Washington DC went to the National Women's
Conference that Jimmy Carter had given $5 million to have as part
of the world decade for women. There was a conference in
Houston, Texas, this group of black women carry to that
conference, something called the Black Women's agenda, because
the organizers of the conference, Bella had Ellie's
meal and what have you have put together a three page minority
women's plank in a 200 page document that the black woman
thought was somewhat inadequate. And so they actually formed a
group called Black Women's agenda to come there in Houston
with a black women's plan of action that they wanted the
delegates to vote to substitute for the minority plank. That was
in the proposed plan of action. Well, funny thing happened in
Houston, when they took the black women's agenda to Houston,
then all the rest of the minority women of color wanted
to be included in the black women's agenda,
hijack hijack hijack? You know, if one thing is consistent
throughout these 2022 episodes we've done so far, and just
being the 23rd is that is the hijacking by a whole bunch of
other players. Hey, look at those black people. Let's jump
let's jump on that train. That's so consistent
when we say that everybody thinks we're paranoid, or are
you just saying that are you just think everybody's taking
everything for you? Literally, when I say we opened the door,
yeah, you actually do? Yeah.
Everybody else is kind of like, Oh, thank you for opening that
door. Why don't you hold it for us? While we reap all the
benefits?
So what's the conversation you have? With people about this? Do
you say Hey, we should stop holding the door open? Or is
there some magical barrier that makes that impossible? I mean?
Well, it's the idea of, well, several ideas, but one of them
is, is like black nationalism. Well, we build for ourself. We
depend upon each other, we spend our dollars with each other,
right? That way, you're not when you make these coalition's
people don't get your ideas and then leave you out in the code,
right. Which normally happens, but I'll let Loretta Ross
continue.
Okay, well, they agreed, except that you could no longer call it
the black women's agenda. And it was in those negotiations in
Houston, the term women of color was created. Okay, and they
didn't see it as a biological designation. You're born Asian,
you're born black, you can make whatever it is a solidarity
definition and commitment to work in collaboration with other
oppressed women of color who have been minoritized. Now
what's happened, you know, in the 30 years since then, is that
people see it as biology now. You know, like, okay, and people
are saying, I don't want to be defined as woman of color. I am
black. I am Asian American. Well, that's fine. But why are
you reducing a political designation to a biological
destiny? That's what white supremacy wants you to do.
Yep. And it's probably a good idea to point out here that
there are many things that are being propagandized upon women
of all colors doesn't matter. Because you need them all to
make these things happen. And these things should be a
warning, you know, you think you think you're doing exactly the
right thing. And then you wake up. It's like, now this didn't
really work out that great,
because when you have political groups and political motives,
wants it serves its purpose, purpose. Yeah, polity get tossed
out. Yeah, it's left you know, so that's why you have to focus
on and this is one thing the Republicans or conservatives are
different from the day McCracken just to get in a little politics
Hot Seat. Republicans are a collective based on their ideas.
So it's like, okay, we're pro Christian Pro or like
evangelical or low taxes or
General General conservatism. Yeah, I guess.
I mean, they're they bond with each other based off the ideas.
Were with Democrats. It's like, oh, yeah, you're, you're, you're
kind of brownish, and you're kind of brown. When you
sit? Well, I don't think a single Democrat would agree with
you. But if you really step back and look at it objectively, that
is how most of their communication goes on. And maybe
that's part of some of the brain fry. You see, when people start
to figure it out, go, what it is, like, just as a quick
example, like, Silicon Valley, everything is being pushed for a
cashless society. And then all of a sudden, someone stands up
and says, Hey, you can't do that. Because the homeless
people. And this is like a brain fry that takes place like, oh,
wait a minute, we have but we want progress. But we can't have
progress. What do we do? You know, instead of actually
thinking about solving the problem, which is homelessness,
but but that kind of brain fried takes place at a certain point.
And I want to be clear with everybody, I am a political. I
call myself a political atheist, because I don't believe in
politicians. But just an example, what we saw in my home
state of Virginia, what last week? Yeah, last Monday, yeah.
They were surprised about how many black black black boys
showed up with guns. Because it was the idea of we believe and
protecting ourselves. And to do that you need to have arms. So
that's what that's what the point I'm making Bob, you have a
collective of people around the idea, instead of my genitalia or
my pigmentation of my skin or right,
in fact, age or identity, those kinds, I believe, part of the
media failure. Because of course, it was peaceful, but I
wasn't there. So I don't really know everything. But the media
failure, which I am an expert in, to me was there were too
many black people, brown people, a non white people for the
television picture for them to really portray anything that
would go along with the narrative of, you know, white
nationalist, white supremacist Klu Klux Klan. So I think it
truly was diverse, otherwise, they would have shown it, I know
how they think I know how it works. I was there once.
It's a it's a diverse crowd of people that want to protect
themselves, especially if I don't want to go around around
just make this one last point. If you have been telling me this
is the worst time, you know, in history for racism, as a black
man, quote, unquote, black man, why would I want to give up my
guns at this very moment in time in history? That doesn't mean
get with the program, Mo pillow? Turn it in your DNA Come on,
if I believe what they say, if I if I was to believe what they
say, that's kind of counterintuitive to what, yes.
What I should be doing. But we're gonna get back on track
here with the final clip from Loretta Ross.
And I don't think it's a setback, but we disintegrate as
people of color around primitive ethnic claiming, yes, we are
Asian American, Native American, whatever. But the point is, when
you choose to work with other people who are minoritized, by
oppression, you have lifted yourself out of that basic
identity into another political being another political space.
And, unfortunately, so many times people of color, hear the
term people of color from other white people than they think
white people created it. Instead of understanding that we we self
named ourselves. This is a term that has a lot of power for us.
But we've done a poor job of communicating that history so
that people understand that.
Yeah, thanks, Loretta. Don't blame YT. It was we were just
following instructions
where they didn't create it, but political systems hijacked it,
of course,
of course, whatever you want, and, and I really don't
honestly, I don't know who's included, who's excluded because
you talk to some people. It's, some people are included, and
some people are not included. And how we made the jump from
women of color to people of color, because men, they want to
include men. So do you have to go to POC, or as I say color
people and I'm just gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna rob that home.
Because that's what I hear Eric's me,
I want you to keep saying that. That's the whole show. Color
people. When it took the first time, I saw the initials POC, I
was like, What? What? And part of that is, you know, I'm used
to P IC, which is piloting command. And so it kind of
confused me for a moment I O people of color. And just
intuitively like, I'm not using that it's also too it's too many
words, stick. And
I've never, I've never used that term, to describe myself or to
describe other people.
And let me tell you, I hear it use a lot, or use a lot.
Well, we're going to figure out the source of where it's being
propagated. And we're going to go to Macalester College.
So for me, a lot of has been like, Okay, what is this whole,
like people of color label? Is it just that we're not white?
That seems like a loose way to go to tell me about that label?
Some students embrace it, some students? Yeah, like that. And
I'm like, you know, so I was reading this book, or I was
skimming this book, to be honest. It was like the heart of
whiteness. And so it was like, the thought there is that why
are you calling people of color people of color, just because
they're not white. So then should use the term non white,
but is that prioritizing whiteness as the norm? And
assuming that all white people are the same? So? I mean, I hate
it. But it's like the most applicable term I don't know at
the moment is the term that everyone recognize right
recognizes right now. And so it's like, okay, how do you
create unity among people? But then also, you can assume that
someone is not white?
Yeah, well, that was interesting. I kind of hate it.
Oh, let's use it. Yeah, well, a mo, thank you for for bringing
this one up. I've always thought it was a weird term.
Intuitively, I've never really thought about it that much. I
just don't use that I say, I say Americans, if it's if it's
pertinent to the conversation with color someone is then
maybe, but not people of color. But that's just not me. Because
I just fight against everything that's trendy, including my
hairstyle and my clothing. Can't you tell?
I'm sure you're doing just fine. But
I'm wearing untuckit.
On top, I like those shirts that admit I like which we're not
doing the ad. No, we're not doing the ad, folks.
Oh, no, no, because we don't have any ads is why we can talk
about products, honestly.
Right. It's like people of color.
Onward onward.
Oh, so we have to look at who's in included or inclusive and
who's non inclusive. Right? Is it and the two major groups are
black and brown, right? You know, don't that that's the
core. And then Asians might be depending on what part of age
you're from, or your economic status, or status.
I believe that Asians get a really raw deal from time to
time. You know, they're getting cut out of college admissions
now. All kinds of stuff. So they don't get in, when it's when
when when they accelerate when they excel in the doing really
great. And there's a lot of them qualifying for entrance entry
into I think it was Yale. I want to say I not sure. Yeah, but
also that now we got too many of them. We got to slow them down,
then all of a sudden they're not people of color, then there
Asians. And that's another thing Asians, like, how about from
India? There's brown people,
they're brown, they're brown? Yeah. But are they counted? And
then brown and black? I don't know. And I'm trying to figure
out but I'm gonna say I've been doing my studies here. I came
across a term and I really couldn't find a clip for it. But
you gave me an excellent segue into going there is called the
model minority myth.
Model Minority Myth. No, no, I haven't.
Okay, so this is why Asians get kicked out of the POC, or the
colored people group, because they're educated and self
sufficient, and it messes up the narrative. Ah, so it's like, you
gotta go, you gotta go over there with that. Self Reliance.
You figure it out on your own group. Is that the idea?
Wow, yeah.
Wow. model minority. Okay, putting that in the show notes
and not heard of that. Yeah.
So we were saying just to give you I just, that's why they're
sometimes excluded. But of the group wanting to groups they
want to merge my many it's weird. Is the Latinos on that
Next, however you want to what phrase you want to use, because
that's even confused. I don't know what everything's being
super segmented. Now, you don't know what you're supposed to
say. But I found this clip from the New York Times talking about
the Latino Latino race,
I think the Latino identity is pretty confusing to me. Because
oftentimes, I find it in a little checkbox on a form. And
I'm confused on whether I should put Latino or Hispanic but I'm
Mexican, as Latin Americans as Hispanics in the US. There's,
there's a community that gets built, regardless of which
specific country you're coming from,
in our history is a history of African people, indigenous
people, Europeans, gunky style, all this all these different
people colliding many times, not with their consent. So that
informs all these loaded issues people have,
it's like navigating three identities. Here. If you're from
the States, you're American, you're black, and you're Latina.
Furthermore, wherever country that you identify and coming
from, and that's, those are that's a lot
to navigate. See, Mo, you don't have all this girl's got
problems. She's also a woman, there's another thing to
navigate. Oh, my goodness.
So within their own group, they have this mini segment. Or you
want to jam, black people in brown people together when they
haven't even worked out amongst themselves. Yeah, they're how
they're going to be categorized. Right? So I'm just giving
background here how nonsensical it is the coalition pitch on
the crate, and then people freely admit that it's like,
well, it's kind of messed up, but No, all right, let's go
along with it. That's what I'm hearing.
And that's what I'm pointing out is that is, it's that brand.
It's like, okay, well, I'll just buy this brand, because that's
what's available.
What color is the Louie? That's what I want to know.
Exactly. So, um, let we'll continue on with this. This New
York time piece.
People say, Oh, you look like a white dude. In some contexts,
not in all contexts. Depends where I am. Depends. who I'm
with depends a lot, whole lot of things. Depends what language
I'm speaking. But however, I look, when I leave my name, I
can't get a phone call back about an apartment in New York
City. And this isn't like 10 places I call this is like 30.
And I remember telling a kid one time, I was like, let me tell
you the Ku Klux Klan comes here. And they see your last name,
you're going to bro? And the kids are like, What are you
talking about? And it was like a big thing.
Because one of my daughters is lighter than the other. They had
blackness issue. And I remember my oldest daughter telling my
youngest daughter that she was black, and her hair. She says
something and I remember crying, like immediately, like, Oh, my
God.
No, no. Wow. Oh, my God, no. Black. God. That's what I heard.
It's like, yeah, here if you had two daughters, one's I'm
assuming dark one is fair skinned, or light skinned? And
it's like she was torn up about it. I'm not sure what it is.
It's kind of insane. You got
two sisters that can't even get along with each other. They
share the same genetic code for at least from one side and
maternal
sounds like nobody needs white people. There's enough racism
going on as if you don't need
our help. Well, the question is,
oh, here we go. Who is really white? Yeah.
Can Latinos benefit from white privilege?
So can we benefit from white privilege? The short answer is
yeah, for example, not only do light skinned Latinos dominate
being on TV, remember, but countries like Brazil and Cuba
supported policies that actively widen their population, and
countries like Mexico deliberately ignore their Afro
Mexican population in the national census till 2015. But
when it comes to Latinos living in the United States, the answer
can get a little complicated, but let's start with what does
it mean to be white. I've met Latinos with skin whiter than
Jorge Ramos, a scalp, and that's because when European colonizers
came to the Caribbean and Latin America, they brought their
light eyes, pasty skin and some weird us diseases. Many light
skinned Latinos today exhibit features that are or sometimes
pass as white in the US. This means some Latinos do experience
white privilege. White Privilege doesn't mean you're
automatically a bad person. It just means that you might not
face certain obstacles because of the way you look.
Yeah, I think this was a clip from MTV, if not mistaken.
This was actually the cat call. Oh, sorry. I
thought that was an MTV.
I had that clip. But it was like redundant. I know exactly what
the black girl was. Yeah. Well, they might they had talking
points you
really? Think? Imagine that.
So Latinos can benefit from white privilege?
No, no, no, no, no, no, you better believe they can.
Yes, it herself. Yeah, they can pass. So it's like,
like, like a test.
Like, don't mess this up for me. You change the last name. And
nobody ever know. Because if you heard in the previous clip, the
guy said, you know, he's pretty much a white guy until he got to
put his name down on the floor application or apartment, right?
It's like, oh, yeah, Martinez, huh? Okay, we're gonna call you
back. But they have the luxury of I've used this term before
being closeted. And this is another reason why this
coalition of Colored People won't work. Now, because we
can't be closeted or what some of us can't. I mean, if you're
like a J. Edgar Hoover are people like that? You can but
for the most part, we will
hold on a second. Is there anyone else that you know of
currently, who you feel is in the public eye? or less? That is
of a J. Edgar Hoover situation? Mariah Carey. Oh, my goodness.
Okay, but she doesn't count anymore. I mean, hello, 1990 and
give me something
I'm gonna say. Recently, I mean,
I got you. I put you on the spot.
No, that was his name is Drake.
You right? Yes. Drake. Scott's plan you're so racist. You laugh
because you think I don't know Drake songs? No. That's talent.
I'm sorry. You missed your recognition of my talent for
racism. All right.
When he walks that line, he
so yeah, Canada. So Right. Don't you know,
it's like being when you start rapping?
The question is, is it really a benefit? Is it a benefit? To
Drake? I mean, okay, he's pretty successful, but it's beneficial.
Do we know we will never know, of course. You know what I mean,
official to him because he successfully plays racially
ambiguous.
Okay, I'll take that from you see,
on your teenage daughters wall. Yeah. White male. I saw a
poster. And you didn't particularly care for black
people. You wouldn't be triggered by that. But he's just
black enough where he can say certain words and do certain
things and get a pass. All right, he passed and he's
totally passive. Okay, so we have to ask ourselves, why are
they charged so hard witness people of color thing,
especially in 2020. It's because black people have seen we have
very few allies. And an example of that is Tavis bomb, and he's
gonna explain how black America lost ground under Obama.
This week. While we were traveling in Iowa, we spoke with
Mr. Smiley about what's changed over the last decade. As Martin
Luther King Day approaches on Monday. We started by talking
about what areas if any, are better for black American now
than they were before Barack Obama took office. I'm sad
to report that in every single leading economic category, black
America has lost ground over the last decade in every major
economic category, we've lost ground. So this book comes out
as you said in 2006, so clearly If this book was out before
Obama shows up to win 2008. So the book was never about Barack
Obama then this 10 year update is not about him now. But it is
true that over these last 10 years, most of that on his watch
black America has lost ground and the major economic indicator
categories.
Is this an old
clip of Tavis Smiley? Yes. 2016.
That was gonna say, because, you know, he got fired, and he was
eliminated from the airwaves with all kinds of sketchy
allegations. Because he was not he was not on board.
Well, he was white ball way longer before that. When he hit
him and Dr. Cornel West, Cornel West pushed me questioning Obama
early into his administration. First term,
yeah, but then after that, then we got me too. And they nailed
him for that too on something very Yeah, they were just
waiting.
They were just waiting lists specious stepped out of line.
But this goes to show you that not only have black people been
skeptical, skeptical of other groups, were skeptical of people
that even look like us. So now you're trying to make this
hodgepodge coalition where you're like, No, and that's why
the term Athos or financial black or native black really
popped off is because people of American lineage black people,
American lineage is looking for identity of their own. Because
like, we don't have any allies. How do you go backwards? And in
every category, under the first black president, how does that
even happen? And if you don't have the answer, Tavis does,
what accounts for the fact that less than that? So little
progress, or indeed, the backside of what accounts for
that going on? Under the the leadership of the first African
American president? Why don't we explain that?
I think there are a few things into your question, how do we
explain it? I don't know. I think the historians are going
to have a very difficult time trying to juxtapose how in the
era of the first black president, the bottom fell out
for black America, that's gonna be a hard juxtaposition to make
up to me around to read what their account is for why they
think that happened. But my research and this text suggest a
few things in no particular order. Number one, there was too
much deference to the President by black people, we got so
caught up in the symbolism that we didn't press hard enough on
the substance. And so symbolism does matter. I just think
substance matters as well. And so there was too much deference
in some part, to the President on the part of black people,
black leaders were sidelined in silence too often in favor of an
invitation to the White House. And so more could have been done
in terms of pressing an agenda. You look at the gay and lesbian
community. Look at the environmental movement course
Wall Street gets everything they want, but look at what other
communities gained over the last decade. And look how black
America wasn't just stagnant, but indeed lost ground over the
last 10 years in part one, because we were too deferential.
I have to step in here for a second. This is because all of
America and the world was hypnotized by the media. And it
has not stopped the hypnosis continues on no matter what side
of the political spectrum you're on. You're being hypnotized at
this moment, and you're being mulch through a machine
continuously. So it's not really like anyone's at fault. And this
is why I'm always against the media pretty much just like,
Yeah, whatever you'd say, and it's good, I'm not going to
trust it. And whatever you say, is bad. I'm not going to trust
it. And we've seen that go two different ways with two
different presidents. So that's number one. Second of all, I'm
asking you Mo, how was this measured? How do you measure
when it's easy to say, black America lost ground under Obama?
What are the criteria that are measured that that determines
that that you're aware of?
Well, average average income, that's when the racial gap or
racial wealth gap really started to pick up as a talking point,
not not in a negative way of a talking point, but just a
conversational? Hey, like everybody else is because we
came out it just back up a little bit. We came out of 2008.
And every Tuesday at 2008. Everybody kind of like bottomed
out, right. Everybody was at an all time low, you know, and then
we started seeing people come out of that great recession. And
black people's financial situation stay stagnant.
Right. So what we're talking about is wage income level. I
presume unemployment.
Yes. And then just what Obama back he was very friendly to the
LGBT community. He was no
i understand that but I just want to look at the measurements
because what? And just the way I see it Trump is running on. And
I don't know if it's true. I mean, I don't believe any of
these numbers. I don't believe anything, actually. Right? Yeah,
he's running on record unemployment, low unemployment
for black Americans. And he does segregate them out. You know,
it's like Latinos, he doesn't say, minorities, people of
color, etc. He says black Americans, Latino Americans,
Asian Americans, which is also lumping a lot of people in
wages, I believe have increased probably a little bit, but I do
know that certainly in Texas, the lower income, there's a lot
more lower income jobs, I think it's kind of like Scud running,
you know, you're, you're just below the you're just just able
to keep your head above water with with one gig. So how is
that recognize or does does anyone give a shit? Like, okay,
Obama didn't do this? Here's a guy saying he did it, I presume
since there's no pushback that it must be some version of it
must be true.
Let's revisit what the expectation was.
Oh. Well, yeah. Are you in the Obama expectation or the Trump
expectation
that no that Obama? both Yeah, okay. Because you have to
compare him. The Obama spyness. For the new listeners, the
expectation was, we will be patient with you for the first
four years. And then once you're reelected, that's when you will
go crazy with Japan and your telephone, making things happen.
And better for black people
was the pen and the telephone taken as a signal by by black
Americans. That's it. Now we've now now Brock's gonna do it.
No, really? I mean, not literally, no, but it was I got
my pin and telephone. So you do have it, though. There's no, you
said it. Your opinion, your telephone, okay, get it to work.
And then you pick the hills that he picked to die on run?
I'm sorry, just stay on this. But it's interesting to me. What
was what what does that mean? Like we want? Just give me give
me a higher wage or do something that creates more jobs? Or what
what was the expectation that he would do with this pen? Well,
what I'm talking about the mind controlled one, what do people
really what were they told to believe? And what did they buy
into?
Well, even just bringing up the conversation of reparations, he
could have started that right ever mentioned. Being stronger
on illegal immigration, which he did deport more people than any
other president. But he was I mean, he spoke out of both
sides, his mouth. That was one thing, right? And like I said,
the last two years when he really chose to transgender
bathrooms. Yeah, it's like, dude, whatever you do, and what
are you into? That's your business. But I'm just saying,
as a politician, which in one does have a point, what I'm
explaining is how we got to the point where we're at right now,
when you chose that initiative, over, say, a reparations with I
think reparations is more tolerable than transgender
bathrooms. Yeah, that that that was the icing on the cake. And
it was like, wow, like, we really have no allies, and
people started becoming realized they were duped. Yeah.
So and Michelle was supposed to be the backstop.
She was one positive been in the White House like I brought you.
I know you're not one of us. But the kids? Literally almost.
Yeah,
of course they are. Yes, exactly.
So that's how we got to them. All right. All right. So all
right. So I'm gonna let Tavis finish wrapping up.
Number two, clearly, there was indifference. There's no doubt
about the fact that this President received the kind of
headwind that no presidents ever received, there was clearly
obstructionism so that that's a factor as well. But the third
factor, I think, I would put as a question, I think, again,
historians would debate this for years to come. Did Barack Obama
not get enough done on black issues because he was
obstructed? Or did he not try hard enough? Did he not do
enough? And I think the answer is clearly both. We'll see where
the historians come down on that. But this book, again, is
not about him, per se. It's about where black America is 10
years after that text. And again, it's just not a happy
report. There are pockets of progress. But across the board,
we've regressed
now, but however, in the podcast industry, there's progress.
Yes, we're part cast in an all time high. He gave us plenty to
talk about. Yes, for
sure. So,
fast forward. Now we're living in Trump's America is 2020. Your
specifically your foundational blacks are eight or so native
blacks are what's the word I want to use disengaged? As far
as voting is concerned. So you have all these media outlets and
pro Democrat. Entities trying to stimulate the black vote. No,
no,
no, activate.
No, no, no, no. Black debate. Oh.
Overruled. Overruled.
And that's actually a GIF. or gif or how you want to pronounce
it. Yeah. Black Desert. Oh. It will be black debate. So we have
device brown and black summit that happened on MLK Day.
Yes. I saw some of this. Some of it was very funny. To me for
hours. They candidates. Yeah. Well, I didn't watch it all. But
I did see a number of clips. I thought it was pretty, pretty
funny. Mayor Pete didn't did it for me.
So what I will say I did like the format better than the
family few lined them all up kind of Oh,
totally. This makes so much more sense. And I think the advice
and the advice is basically vice media and I know Tom Freston I
know, you know, he really commercialized it. It's an
advertising agency and they create content around it. And I
think they did a very good job on this and I think they served
a very important community. The questions were kind of MTV ish
briefs or boxers to some extent
but we're gonna cover that we're gonna cover all right, I
shall get the in the back seat again.
What I will say is this just if I had to suggest something
device, do a bracket. They should have had some kind of
scoring system. Yeah, to candidates face off, and then
they move to the next round to the next
round. gamify it a bit. Yeah, I agree. That's
that because for four hours? Yeah, the third hour came when I
was on 1.25 speed and I was like, God, am I gonna make it?
But it was it. It was definitely biased. And example of that is
the intro for Mr. Andrew Yang. Our next
guest is self described entrepreneur Andrew Yang, who
represents a community that's often ignored in national
politics, Asian Americans, the fastest growing racial group in
the country. But how does Andrew Yang wants to be seen? He's got
a pretty big group of supporters and that includes conservatives.
She sat down with Tucker Carlson on Fox News. She posts with
supporters wearing Magga hats, and conservative pundit Ben
Shapiro has called them quote my boy, Yang has taken pride in his
ability to win over disaffected Trump supporters. And some
Democrats have even suggested that strategy may be the best
route to the White House. Let's give it up for Andrew Yang.
Wow, man, he was wearing Magga hat people Oh my goodness.
Talking to Tucker Carlson. What was he thinking and then trying
to get Republican vote?
Oh, this crazy that's not that's strategy. Oh, I'm democratic of
you. Andrew Yang
the other the other party to vote for you. That's madness.
You know, Andrew Yang I couldn't I don't like his actual idea of
the of the Freedom check whatever your $1,000 a month
because he wants to pay for it with value added tax. But
otherwise, he seems like a pretty decent guy. You know,
he's certainly smart. But he didn't actual policies are just
dumb. And she's like, No Pass. I lived in Europe. No, thanks.
He's smart. And he's funny. Yeah,
and by the way he's saying an Asian person is smart of course
can be deemed racist. You know that right?
Yeah, math is racist too. So we got to be very careful here
we're trying
to marry very good deal Yeah, exactly. Oh,
but yeah. From just just personality he's a cool dude.
I'm not in the Yang gang. Yeah, me like I told you I'm not
voting. What if he was smart enough? He gives spin that
$1,000 As a tangible
Yeah, interesting idea. Yeah, yeah,
it's a will give certain groups have been, like 2500 You know,
the counter? I like
your book that's above 50% No, no, no, no, no, we gotta just
negotiable.
It has to be something in this specific for us. Lift. Yeah,
that's
a great idea is it and for reparations, and you can
actually make the whole class society right there. Hey, you
know, we got some brown people. We'll give you a little extra to
he little bump for you. Not as much. Not as much as our angels.
Yeah. 25%. You know, here you go. But if you're listening,
just saying. But we've seen that they've already Lambu Yang is
friendly to the Republicans. Yeah, but it doesn't stop there.
Andrew Yang and W S.
So you're unique among the entire field, in that you have
had a bunch of white supremacist who just have decided somehow
that you're their guy. Now, this is it's different dealing with
this as a candidate dealing with it as a president. So how does a
president Andrew Yang deal with the issue of white supremacy in
America?
Do they have any backup for that? Or like the here's a
picture of you with the kk k or,
or any just he just told you in the intro, he took a picture
with people Magga hats.
Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, yes, of course. I'm so stupid. Of
course, those are the white supremacist. I got shut them
down. I got you.
This. This is the association here. It's like, you know, they
set it up in the intro. And what I did here, I didn't really clip
any answers. Because that's not what I wanted to do. No.
I'm aware of what you do. And I like it.
I want to focus on the questions, not the answers,
right. Oh, so yeah, you took pictures. Tucker, you want to
talk to Tucker? He definitely.
He's a non supremacist Nazi.
So I mean, what are we talking about here? I mean, like, it's
clear, it's a clear lot of you know, connection between the
white supremacist and yang. But it doesn't stop there. The
double down?
I mean, I just okay, because I want to back up because I want
to point out that I started off with a question about white
supremacy and dealing with that which this is something you've
said is a problem in America. But we ended up with talking
about handing people money. I mean, does handing people money
fix racism?
Wow, yes, jet that isn't that the whole idea of reparations?
Who was this phony asking the questions this this young man
needs to be schooled?
Isn't that the whole point of saying if you closed the wet
racial wealth gap? Video put people on equal fair ground?
fair playing ground? Yes, yes. Money will solve the problem.
Money solves 90.9 9.9% of the problems. Yes. I'm being
facetious, but that's a dumb question. It's like what
will the gang at least answer it somewhat? intelligently? Or did
he just kind of waffle around?
Well, I think he was smart enough to see he walked into a
trap. Yeah. Cuz he couldn't bite as the guy said, just in the
clip we just listened to. Yeah. out the gate. out of the gate.
Oh, yes. All you white supremacist like Yang.
And people wonder people wonder why politicians enjoy going on
the Joe Rogan show and why people enjoy watching
politicians on the Joe Rogan show because all of that
bullshit is stripped away. All of it, and this is vice and they
stuck. Okay, it's it's changing by the time you are kids, your
kids. Certainly, by the time they're grown up, it'll be
better podcasters will be in control.
Yes. So there was a question from the crowd. And this was
like one of the best questions of the night because it actually
was based in some kind of fact and not feeling Latino top
priorities.
Welcome. Good afternoon, Mr. Yang. Welcome to see you.
Thanks. Thanks. It's good to see you again. Latinos polled. The
2016 presidential election, stated that their top voting
priorities were education and the economy. Currently, nearly
two thirds of Latino students end up in under underserved
community colleges, and second tier public universities, and
only a small percentage attend one of the most elite colleges,
according to the Georgetown Center on Education and the
Workforce. Today our economy is strong for the most fluent in
our society. But Latinos make up nearly 30% of the total pipeline
shouldn't live in poverty. What is your plan to deliver
sufficient resources for are struggling committed to colleges
and universities? And secondly, how do we address the racial
disparities in our economy for brown and black communities?
Thank you.
Yeah, that's my favorite. brown and black communities. It's kind
of like any
cause that he had. It's my favorite book with that.
Yeah, no, it's that's my favorites. Like, we're the black
and brown communities. Well, they're those teepees over
there. And some tiny homes over there. That's black and brown
clearly labeled. Yeah.
So they had and this was a that was a great question, by the
way. Um, and it came from one of the people in the crowd. So I
mean, that just lets you know is like, but the top priorities
wasn't kids in cages. The top priority wasn't immigration. You
see what you see what everybody else and the other groups are
financially minded. Schools money, yeah, education. You make
more money. Yeah. Not kids in cages not you know that. What
the talking points is supposed to be? Yeah. So it's like, whoa,
top priorities? That's not what I've been told. Latino top
priorities are? What
what that's not in the polling numbers.
Yes. So the X um, and I got a little ahead of myself, but the
X Jiang about black people, and then their health and things of
that nature. And he said that the reason why Black people are
so stressed is because they don't have finance, the finances
lead to stress, which is true. And if you provide them with
finances, then that will take away some of the stress which is
common sense. But there you have it, but I didn't want to use
that clip because I'm trying to stay there and to only using the
questions that the candidates are asked right and not use this
as a as a no trying to sway people one way or the other
candidate.
You're showing the top choices here on the show. Well, some of
them some of the most helmets are top choice. Interesting
choice. Interesting people. We're still making an
entertainment show here. Yeah, very well done. Well done. Mo
apps. You got it, my man, you got it.
Alright, so um, they had the thing called Speed Round. Right?
And this is where in one minute, ask the candidate as many
questions as possible and see what they can answer. So we're
going to listen to and you're Andrew Yang speed round. All
right.
If you could be invisible, what would be the first thing you do
eavesdrop on the other candidates. spook.
Fill in the blank. Allow me to reintroduce myself. My name is
Humpty Dumpty. What was
your worst job?
busboy at a Chinese restaurant? I didn't qualify to be a waiter
because my Chinese
sorry, y'all don't. Okay, Jordan, Jordan or LeBron
Jordan but LeBron could pass it
was the last time you smoked weed. Past life
what's the last TV show you binge watched? I watched this is
us with my wife. What's your biggest fear
that we don't eradicate poverty in the time we
have. What's the topic that you're embarrassed that you
don't know more about? It's a great question. Geez, soccer
and Jay and Jay Z lyrics I guess so. So how to miss a new vote
Wow, I'm gonna be gonna be president. Yeah, he's the cloud.
Like, well, obviously, China man can't know about Jay Z lyrics
are silent on what that was all about. That was kind of lame.
And if you notice their basketball,
yes. Like
it. We've seen a trend here. You know, that's that's what really
cares
at the moment isn't at the moment. You're supposed to say I
got hot sauce in my bag. Isn't that isn't
that his biggest fear of running out of hot sauce? That's the
biggest fear. Yeah, if you want to pander, right, I mean,
pandering one on one, but he didn't pander there. No, he
didn't. He said Humpty I'm like I'm gonna say he knew it was
like a rap lyric when he could only fill in that one rapper he
knew is like, yeah,
I got this. He might have been ready for that one. I have a
feeling that was very, very quick.
Yeah, that was quick, but he just got it like didn't deliver
on the edge. Hear there? Well, so, of course. So that was
Andrew Yang. And we're gonna see a trend here with the speed
round. We're gonna see, I'm just gonna pointed out to people, the
less favorable candidates get tougher questions and the speed
round. The people that they kind of like, get easier, easy
questions, and just just just pay attention to that. Just a
little. Just want to foreshadow that a little bit. But next up
is Liz Warren. Um, and she was very boring. only really got
one.
I want to know her pitch.
Yeah. So the one question that I did find interesting, they asked
her was about HBCUs.
And another thing that you propose to do with that money is
give $50 billion dollars to historically black colleges and
universities.
Yeah, I like the fact that you're excited about that. I
went to an HBCU Prairie View a&m University. So it sounds great,
but it also sounds like it's too good to be true. You know. And
so the question is, is, when it gets hot for you, and you need
to compromise on some things, how do we know for sure that
that will end up on the cutting room floor,
and I'll just kind of put the point a little even further,
which is like, the pander radar goes off a little bit. This is a
well crafted plan that's gonna play well, in the primaries. But
once we get to the nomination, once we get to you in office is
the first thing. So here's, here's my, here's my question.
Is a plan is a plan a promise?
So? Oh, wow. Yeah.
Man. Like, hey, welcome, Elizabeth Warren, you suck.
Okay. So let me ask you a question about why do you suck.
And that's that was pretty interesting.
And what I found interesting was that the black guy was asking a
question about HBCU. Right. And then the brown guy chimed in,
like, Hold on, let me clarify a question for you. Yeah, just the
case is, you know, just in case you can't follow along,
let me Oh, interesting that you took it that way,
is exactly how I took it. I mean, we can go back and listen
to like maybe the last 30 seconds of it. That's when he
kind of goes to jumps, and it takes it from let's do
that. Second, last 30 seconds about here just
kind of put the point a little even further, which is like that
will end up on the cutting room floor. And I'll just kind of put
the point a little even further, which is like, the panda radar
goes off a little bit. This is a well, is
this a white guy? Brown,
well crafted plan that's going to play well in the primaries.
But once we get to the nomination, once we get to you
in office is the first thing he hits. So here's here's my here's
my question. Is a plan is a plan a promise?
Yeah. Yes. I mean, I didn't I don't know the dynamics of those
two. I don't know. I don't know. But it could.
My bias. My bias, but that was, it was a question about HBCUs.
You might want to let the black guy ask you especially about
pandering. Oh,
yeah, again, yes, I agree. But I really don't know the dinette,
you may be a little sensitive there.
Maybe I am. I'll admit to that. So
I'm i I'm represented by Elizabeth Warren. So you know,
like, who gets the right deal here? Are you know,
I didn't know you were Native American.
Yeah, yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah.
All right. So Liz Warren, we're gonna get to her speed round.
Oh, goody.
So we're going to test you to see how many questions you can
answer in 60 seconds.
Okay. Are you up for the challenge? I am totally up for
this challenge.
Do you all think she's up for this? I mean, different milks.
Can you name? milk, oat milk.
Well, cow's milk, almond milk, soy milk, coconut milk.
Chocolate milk. Nella milk and strawberry milk.
I'm sorry. The correct answer was powdered milk.
What's that? Seven.
Okay, what's the biggest trouble you ever got into in
school? Oh, in school. Most of my trouble was out of school.
Things trouble I ever got into in school was talking back to
what is Black Twitter. Good.
What's your favorite? What's your favorite Indian?
Oh, this is like big tapioca. Do you know the stuff I'm talking
about? You serve it with darling. It's song I'm not sure.
Senator Elizabeth Warren.
Good to meet you. Man. So Black Twitter's good. Now I thought
that was a good time.
It was it was tight, tight, tight, tight. It was Yeah.
But when she was asked, What's your favorite web app just for
clarity. The guy that was interviewing core interviewing
with the black guy was Indian. When she when he asked, What's
your favorite Indian food was? I was sure she was gonna say
maize. Yeah.
Actually, I was thinking the same thing. It's just happened
to me the other day. Or maybe I saw a clip of it. It was Family
Feud. And the question is, what kind of food do you eat? Does
Popeyes eat or something like that? And my wife and my, my
mind went to chicken. And the woman answered chicken. But of
course it's spinach is like you're going into these weird
brain conditions.
So I thought that was a little trick question at the end like
hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Like yeah, like yeah, you both to
come with it. But that's my point. That's my point. She
should have said maize. Or, you know, what else is? Native?
venison. Buffalo. I know.
That's one of the traditional Thanksgiving foods but Oh, and
it what's funny is she's contributed to Indian cookbooks.
Oh, yeah. Well, what you stole those recipes, too?
She dropped the ball on that one.
Yeah, exactly.
Alright, so next up is Mayor Pete.
Yay, everybody, Wall Street Pete the spook
and listen to this compound question they asked him ask him.
And this is really an example of the problem with having these
coalition's
you released a mental health care plan with a focus on
addiction and deaths of despair. So I want to ask you about two
key groups at risk. A recent study found that from 2001 to
2017, the rate of death by suicide for black boys ages 13
to 19, increased by 60%. The rate for black girls 182%. A
separate study found that over half of trans male participants
had attempted suicide at some point in their lives, just under
30% of trans women. What do you think is behind those numbers?
And what exactly will your plan do for black children? And trans
people specifically?
Wow, I mean, that's just an exercise and how dumb are you
would prioritize prioritizing things? Black Girls 150% black
boys 30% 60%. And then, I guess trans can it can neither be boy
nor girl. But that was 30%. And so specifically, let's talk
about trans.
Where see what there. Do you see this bait and switch or this?
And the guy did at the end like black and brown thought at the
end? Yeah, now is I'm asking about black child suicide. But
let me throw. That's not interesting enough. Nobody cared
about black dead children. Due to suicide. We add spices up
with trans.
What? Yeah, yeah, that's right, that well, that that is Vice
media should be ashamed of themselves for that ashamed.
And she even said two groups. Two groups do black.
Gosh, okay. She's just read
that which test? I didn't know those numbers. And that's scary.
That is that scare? I
think you'll find that. Sadly, the numbers are very similar for
white kids. White girls, I don't know if it's 150%. But it's it's
off the charts. Same for white white boys. In a lot of the
girls, a lot of it is social media, Instagram, the boys. I
would say hopelessness. I don't know. A lot of
times, I totally agree with you. I would if I had to bet on what
the root cause was. It would definitely be social media.
Yeah, a lot of it. I'm just going to show you how in a
question. You start off with it's a black person's ears perk
up like, wow, I black children committed suicide at those
rates. And it's like, well, let me slice something in under
that. Yeah. So much something much more important. Yes, not
more. Yeah. Nobody cares about dead black children. But Mayor
Pete And I'm gonna say this. They don't like Mayor Pete.
That seems to be the message. That is that the media is
portraying that, Pete, that no one has a chance to like Pete
the media is telling everybody, no black people like be.
Yep. And you'll hear it. It was so bad. It made me cringe. With
this next one,
you brought up maternal mortality, which I want to
follow up on a member of our audience actually just asked a
question about that. What kind of President do about the fact
that when you actually drill down in the data, a lot of what
appears to be happening is purely individual racist
incidents of a white doctor, looking at a black woman on a
table and saying, I'm just not going to work as hard for you
today? And coming into the room with some stereotypes? How do
you legislate against that? How do you fight that from the
Office of the President?
Was this? Was this an example of something that happened in real
life? I don't know. I haven't heard of it. She just she just
made this up as an example. Just he grabbed this one.
How do you answer that question? First of all, like you can't,
well, I'm going to walk through it is like, Yeah,
I'm gonna turn on the the mind control beam and fix everybody's
head. Wow.
These are the type of question they asked Peter, ma'am, no,
Pete fan, but I'm like, wow, like is what the question itself
was a white doctor walks in, and he does not, I don't care, you
might want to find another doctor named St.
percent. And, you know, vice is is a part of the machine. I
mean, this, this is not fair by any standard. And, and they have
their mindset. I mean, that's probably why the I guess what
we're missing is Joe Biden, and Bernie Sanders. That's why
they're so boring. Because they've probably had no
substantial questions. Ask them and, and nothing, you know,
nothing to hit him with. Like, I don't think we got to like these
to go.
Joe Biden got the soft softness of soft balls. So it was me I
couldn't even clip his speed round. It was so bad.
Because it's elder abuse. Yeah, Joe is just some people are.
Don't just start losing a little bit at that age. And I'm not
losing it. But he's, you know, he's confusing stuff. And so
they no go easy on him because you confuse him. That's so sad.
And one of the questions that asked, Oh, just to give you a
speed round was, What food do you like, the other people don't
like?
That's another. Wow.
Yeah. Elizabeth Warren question. How many meals came in? Yeah.
How many mills? I mean, like, that's a good like 30 seconds of
the heart speed round. I mean, they didn't want them to get in
any any trouble. But
well, the correct ones. The correct answer, of course, is
collard greens, rice and beans. I mean, that is the correct
answer is Mayor Pete should answer if that question comes
up. Yes. But they asked him another question. Where Pete
speed round I saw
this if Antonia and I invited you to a potluck or barbecue?
What are you bringing?
Oh is it a breakfast potluck? It's gonna be chips and salsa.
Flying or teleportation?
Flying because you never know what's gonna be the same you
that gets
you messing up the short answer. But do you prefer your grid
sugar, salt or cheap cheese?
What are some of the blackest cities in America? Like by
population? Yeah, just list off a couple.
New Orleans, Washington DC. That's why Washington DC ought
to be a state by the way with the senator.
Not good at short answer. Go ahead. What's on you know all
the words to Star Spangled Banner? Where did MLK go to
college? Or else? Yes, thankfully.
What will be the largest minority voting bloc this
election?
People with disabilities
are audiobooks reading
if you if you bought my own
ladies, gentlemen.
Wow, I mean, most will just say Are you a racist or not? Popeyes
a Chick fil A racism at races.
Which that was a trap.
No kidding. He lost no matter what he chose pandering if you
say if you say Popeyes, white supremacist Hitler. If you say
Chick fil A
No, no, no. What? deeper than that? Oh, gosh. You're anti
LGBT?
Of course. Of course. Of course. I'm sorry. I need to remember. I
needed I need a flowchart.
Yeah, so they re tried to walk him right I have never been
inside a Popeye's if I had $1,000. No, now,
you're right. I'm sure he's never been.
I will say if he just said chick Play campaign over.
Yeah, absolutely.
And saying,
oh my god, I forgot he's gay, too. I forgot that part. He went
against his own people.
He almost did.
He was on the fence for a second there. Wow. I think it was
pretty slow on the calculations. I think that alone disqualifies
him from being president. It took them too long to do that
calculation. I mean, especially in today's social justice world.
You got to do that fast, man. You got to be on the fly. You
got to know who you're pandering to at any moment.
But once again, let's go back to the question grits. Fried
chicken. Basketball, right?
I like the potluck or barbecue. Elbow barbecue? Yeah, the
correct answer was, you invited me to the barbecue. That is the
correct answer to that question.
Right. I'll be glad to bring anything if you invite me to the
cookout. Exactly. Peak contact this week, we have these
captions to your questions.
That's right, we can hook you up for the next time. Don't rely on
IBM Watson. It's Mo and that's Mona. Yes.
So to wrap it up, they had Bernie Sanders. And really all
of Bernie Sanders really was focused on immigration. So let's
get into the first immigration clue.
Let's move on to immigration. Good. You have a truly
comprehensive, large, very detailed immigration plan more
so I think than any other candidate in this race. I think
that needs to be recognized. But you haven't had to talk about it
very much. We're about to talk about it some more. So let's
start with the wall. The idea for Trump's border wall didn't
come out of nowhere. It's the logical result of many decades
of both Republicans and Democrats spending billions and
billions of dollars on border security that includes close to
700 miles of fencing. You've been very clear that you oppose
any additional funding for a border wall. But would you go
further? Will you tear down the
wall? Yeah, I saw this. I saw this question.
That seems like a no, no. When question is well, because it's
like, yeah, like open borders? Well, no, if that's how I
interpreted it, question.
Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Because if you were to say,
Well, I mean, I know, I know why we answered that. And he was
like, well, it doesn't cost a billion dollars to tear down and
I could put that money somewhere else. That's my Bernie. Thank
you. Very, thank you. Yeah,
that was a trick question. This thing was set. So the only
person that they went easy. The only person they went easy on
was Joe Biden. So he's the guy he's the man.
And well, Elizabeth Warren as well. Well, that was
still gave her some some heavy questions.
Maybe I mean, jump out is their guy. But I mean, if they had to
have a setback, because they couldn't go harder, Liz Warren
because she's a woman. Yeah. Can't do that. I mean, and she's
a woman of color. Let's be honest. She is.
So they can tell you ask Bernie about immigration.
I'm actually I'm happy you bring that up. Senator, sorry to
interrupt you. But that's precisely what I wanted to ask.
Ask you about. You've promised a moratorium on deportations the
moment you take office. Yeah. I want to make sure I understand
what that means. That means once you are president no one. Well,
I know it's while you conduct an audit of the immigration system.
That's
correct. And you know, I'm not going to tell you here if
somebody has been convicted of a terrible, terrible crime, that
may be the exception to the rule.
So you are so in my understanding, that's not what a
moratorium means.
Well, a moratorium is that there will be no deportations. There
may be some a few exceptions. Now, you know, you can quibble
about it. But a moratorium on deportations for the 99% of the
people is nothing to be cynical about.
Now, you did play some of his answer, which you didn't do for
the other candidates. So that wasn't entirely fair in the in
our bracket system.
The reason why I had to do that was was the push back. He's not
going to deport anybody. Yeah. So criminals, hardened
criminals. Thing is no one actually used those words. And
that was not enough. It's like whoa, what are you saying about
hardened criminals?
I got to keep them a martyr.
I can't clip it any other way to keep that. I had to keep that. I
understand. And then to hear him walk back like, well, we could
look at keeping murderers in. I mean, yeah, I'm flexible.
Yeah. Best nuts. It's nuts.
It's crazy, because it's like,
but the thing that is nuts is that I think that these
candidates, you know, this is I'm getting inside their head,
but just knowing a little bit about how stuff, you know, to
stop for them. Okay. All right. Let's go get some blacks. All
right. Skirt skirt, here we go. And then they just, I don't even
think they prepare that well.
I think they should revise. They were like, Oh, well, this is?
Yeah, it was like, hey, no, we give us a can't because can't
answer.
Is that a streaming app? What is that advice? Is a streaming? to
No, of course. Yeah, it gets around. It gets around me. I saw
it on YouTube course. But you know, it's on HBO and all that
stuff? No, but I think they see it as minor.
But I just wanted to point out that, and this is the reason why
I also kept that in here, because this is gonna sell the
final portion of the show. Immigration is always going to
be a sticking point between the black and the brown.
Yes. Well, and I think a lot of the Brown is the legal Brown
also wants to slow it down.
This, this is very true. And I will totally agree with you that
a decent portion of Hispanics are anti immigration, what they
can't say, Well,
I've helped a couple people, I've helped a lot of people with
the with immigration. Because I've done it. I've done it a
couple times. And my Mexican friends whom of which one will
become an American citizen next year, she's eligible. They're
like, Hey, man, because I know I asked all the time, what's going
on? What are you hearing around? What are you hearing around? And
they say, well, everybody, first of all, everyone's got jobs. And
we know everyone. You know, we won't really say that. We like
what Trump's doing with immigration, but we like what
he's doing with immigration. That's what I hear. In Austin.
So that's not representative representative everything, of
course.
And a large portion of black people feel the same way because
a lot of white
immigrants. So the white people trust me. So
illegal immigration. And the benefits of black people run
counter to each other, because I'm just gonna lay out two
examples here. And then we'll we'll get into the last set of
clips. But one, when you bring up this kids in cages, and you
can't separate parents from their children, whether this
empathy and sympathy when you were having a war on drugs.
Yeah, well, this is just a sentiment is like, Where was
that where it was now a kid with on in foster care. And Families
were torn apart due to the war on drugs. But now all of a
sudden, we have a conscious for non citizens.
Right? So I just want to answer that for maybe people who are
new to this, of course, it's all political, and kids in cages, it
even the alliteration of it kids in cages is great television, it
makes for a great political point. Much better than I mean,
clearly, showing drug addicts and homeless people isn't
working politically. Otherwise, I wouldn't be doing something
about it. So you know, it's kids in cages, kids think of the
children in cages. What?
True, but the problem is when you look at how families were
separated during the war on drugs, and now how it's just the
ultimate sand to separate families. That's one thing and
then to when you look at, like these caravans and all this bad
where you're at, you can just move somewhere else, and they're
not held to any standard of the law.
No, no one is above the law in America except the illegal
immigrant.
Right? And then you have black people is probably one of the
most oppressed groups by the law. And then you want to merge
these two groups together into some kind of political
coalition. It just is not going to work. It's not going to work
and you don't have to believe me
So now we got we got burning speed round which I'm sure he
can only do one question because he can't answer anything
shortly.
Let's see him try
60 seconds you as many questions as possible, and you can get a
pass but no one has passed. So I suggest you you don't or you
will be judged harshly. Are you ready?
I am ready.
What is your biggest insecurity?
Saying something dumb? What was your laughing
What was your first job? And how much did it pay?
My first job was carrying soda bottles from a warehouse to the
to a truck. And it paid this a long time ago obviously it paid
pretty well and I learned out that it was a Teamster operation
lays in and that was my first introduction to unions that I've
liked them ever since.
was the first candidate you voted for
maybe Kennedy got one sweaty on that one night,
man. What's the worst job you've ever had?
I I put carpets with all kinds of smelly disgusting glue which
kills people I think but you know,
a lot of good years. And last question is out of the 60
seconds was that torturous for you to try to come up with short
answers? To votes? Thank you, Senator. Senator.
Wow. Doesn't even wear hair doesn't even end. And you could
actually probably ask Bernie Sanders some complicated
questions. I think he's an intellectual, I think it would
come up with some answers. But instead, if you were a tree,
what country would you be? I mean, this is crazy.
So you see the pecking order by the round question. That's why I
included them. So what I want to get into because people might
not believe me that even though Black people coexist with Latino
people and communities. That's not the issue what I'm talking
about because we can coexist our culture's somewhat bland in some
ways, but when it comes to politics, politics I'm talking
here. They don't mesh well. As we were hitting this next clip,
when one black female tries to equate slavery to illegals,
so I mean, I don't know if you identify as African American I
do. But if you dropped me off in Africa Wow, the language I speak
I wouldn't I wouldn't speak the language I wouldn't have any
cultural ties to the continent have cultural ties to it's not
the same because he was why isn't it he wasn't raised
because I was born ties my ancestors I can trace them were
brought over here on slave ships we helped build the she was
brought George. Wait, don't buy slavery to Eleague on here not
by choice. I think my right but my ancestors didn't say let me
jump on the boat. Let me die from the leader does mind get
when when didn't either? Come on, Kelly Come on. It's not the
same argument. Yes, no cultural ties to the country in which he
was born old way to labor, children, cultural tie liberally
to the country to come here.
Now, where was this? Who was arguing here? Do you know
that this was CNN? I don't have the two pundits names. Do you
hear that nasty little trick that pro immigration woman did
today? Anti immigration woman what she say? is like the first
10 seconds if you just want to hear it and you want to play the
whole clip. Just listen to the first 10 seconds. Yeah, hold on
one second. One second. One second. Yeah, let me make this
clear. These are clearly two black women. I
mean, I don't know if you identify as African American
ideal, but if you dropped me off in Africa, like wow, the
language I speak I wouldn't I wouldn't speak the language. I
wouldn't have any cultural ties to the continent.
Okay. She asked her where she black. I don't know if you
identify as a black woman.
I see what you're saying. Was this and again, so I
mean, I don't know if you identify as African American
ideal, but if you dropped me off in Africa, wow. The language I
speak. I wouldn't I wouldn't speak the language. I wouldn't
have any cultural ties to the continent. I don't have cultural
ties. The whole
the whole conversation hurts my brain.
It does. But yeah, this is this is what happens when you don't
take the Democrat party line. They may start to question your
blackness. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know if you got it
clearly the woman's black. Clearly, and she's I don't know
if you identify as African American or not. And the lady's
like, oh, wow, like you're really going there. Yeah, yeah.
Well, she go there. Yes, she did go there. But that's just one
example. And the question. Trying to use the equivalent of
slavery to illegals is a lose the argument all day? Yeah.
Because how black people see it. We had no choice coming here. If
you think America is this terrible place, why are you
coming here? I mean, actually, since that's just the sentiment
is like, I don't understand it. Yeah, so it's such a haven to
white supremacy, but you want to come here. So it just doesn't
make any sense. But another show favorite Dr. Claude Anderson, I
have a couple of clips from him speaking on minorities and
immigration.
And the reason that's important is because all these other
groups coming in now they classify this as fabricated
groups and classes, they are eating your lunch. All the
things that should have been going to you they are getting
them. There is no end point being at this point. Now, down
here. When you get to benign neglect, at the bottom in 1970.
There is no, absolutely no constitutional or legal reason
to help Hispanics, Arabs, Asian Eskimos, women, gays, midgets,
hop back legend, one i crippled DOM people into affirmative
action program, you make a joke out of black folks. Because what
you're doing is giving the pretense that all of a sudden
that all things are equal, that somehow those people are
mistreated as badly as black folk work. That's a lie. You add
insult to injury, to use these very broad terms to put black
folk in those broad categories. Do not let anybody put you in
any broad categories.
Yep. Well, how long ago was this?
This was probably 2012. I believe, man. Where's
everybody now?
Oh, he's still out there. Actually. He was all hot. 97 Oh,
really? Not too long ago. Charlemagne seven years? Yeah.
So he's getting airtime now. But we've had him on the show over
the coming as clips, pushing black people not to vote as
well. Yeah, we don't get anything tangible. But as he
said, I mean, firm action is for us. What they want to lump us
all in these wide groups, like common people occur.
A common theme.
Yeah. So let's just let Dr. Anderson continue.
And my people have you not learned yet to get wisdom, as
the Bible says, not only get wisdom, get understanding, we
don't understand the issues. You cannot go into a marketplace, or
into a political arena and a very broad, ambiguous term. And
when you gotta go in specifically focused on what you
are in your people. We are the only people that won't do that.
Women will go into the marketplace, they are talking
about women's issues, or women's rights, gays will go into the
marketplace and talk about gay rights. Hispanics talk about
Hispanic rights, and you're talking about Indians rights
veteran was talking about veterans rights, senior status
talking about senior citizens, right? You don't go into black
folks. And what are you talking about? I'm talking about civil
rights, who in the world is civil, talking about your own
people?
Isn't fire there?
Who is simple. So that's one example. Another example of just
speaking on the lack of, and I'm gonna say this again, because I
know some people may be getting triggered. I'm talking about the
political coalition that they're trying to form. This call color
people is not going to work. And these are just examples of why
it's not going to work. We have Mr. Peter Carr Chanel, Mr. Peter
Carson, now he he's a lawyer. He's also a member United
States. Commission on Civil Rights. He is a part time
appointee served on a 66 year our six year term, no 30,
serving his 36 year term as a member of the National Labor
Relations Board, and he's gonna speak on activist see illegal
immigration, it hurts black me and most one.
Your personnel is a member of the United States Commission on
Civil Rights, who was also a candidate for president from
Secretary of Labor. And he joins us now Peter, thanks for coming
on. Thanks, resident. So this is this is a position you don't
hear very much, but makes a kind of intuitive sense. Unpack it,
if you would. What What do you mean when you say the black men
in America the biggest victims of this?
Sure. Well, just to give you a bit of background, we've
conducted at least three hearings over the last six years
and so Rights Commission on this discrete issue. And we had a
number of experts testify, we do a number a lot of information
with respect to the economic impact of illegal immigration,
on low skilled workers generally. And all of the
witnesses all the experts that we had, who spanned the
ideological spectrum, they may or may have disagreed in terms
of the degree of the impact, but all of them concurred that
illegal immigration has a devastating impact on wage
levels and employment levels. And it's econ 101. Tucker, when
you have an oversupply of labor, the price of labor is going to
be depressed.
That's very interesting that you have the white supremacist
Tucker Carlson as a clip. Yeah. Yes,
he's pushing his agenda. But the numbers don't lie. That's right.
And you're probably wondering why this guy is not making
bigger news with these facts that he's sharing. And he's
gonna explain why.
I don't even know if the counter argument to what you just said
is it seems obvious, it's clearly true. Has anyone told
the Congressional Black Caucus?
Yeah, I have at least three occasions, and probably more we
did is immediately after reducing some of this, this
evidence. And it's profound, because we're talking about a I
think it's a 40 point 40% of the 18 point decline in labor force
participation rates among black males is attributable to the
oversupply of illegal immigration, labor competing
with them. So we're talking about at the very low end,
hundreds of 1000s of blacks losing jobs, probably if you do
the math, up to 1.2 million blacks losing jobs, this has
significant obviously, impacts on the black community, got in
touch with Congressional Black Caucus sent them detailed
information on this, ask them to do something about it to respond
to us to engage in this effort. My assistant repeatedly would
follow up on this what we heard were crickets do the same thing
with President Barack Obama? Crickets again.
He didn't really explain why though. I'm gonna say my why
what? Well, why why he's getting no attention.
You're trying to part the herd?
Yeah. So they just ignored it. They just ignore
it. No, we need we need the coalition, right? Just ignore
it. The whole point of what we're doing here is just
identifying. It's not about what's good for anybody. It's
not like, like you pointed out, it's tons. Not tons. But it's a
sizable portion of legal Hispanics that don't like
illegal immigration, right. And they're getting it forced down
their throat. White Americans, same thing, black.
Will people rise up against this. I mean, you know, I'm
amazed. You look at France, you don't see much on the news
anymore, because we don't want to give anybody an ideas. But
the yellow vests, there's, I mean, just last weekend, the
weekend before, you know, one of the unions said, now we're gonna
turn off the power here. We're sick and tired of this. We want
someone to listen to us. They turned off the power 30,000
people without power for a couple hours. There's some real
insurrection going on. I'm disappointed in America, in
general, all we do is take the Twitter like a bunch of fools.
Well, the problem is when you're afraid you're gonna be labeled a
racist, or, you know,
of course, it's our entire system, I understand.
Right? So it's like, I don't really want to rock the boat.
But the problem is, with the African American black, aid
office, whatever you want to call it, it feels like they're
still in our birthright. And I missed a couple of these a
throwback clips and and then I'll let Ted use some more. Two
more clips that he expounds on this point. We had Ted Hayes on
our show before that he was speaking on how illegal
immigrants are basically still in the birth rights of African
Americans
being joined now by Mr. Ted Hayes. He's a civil rights
activist. Thank you for being with us, Mr. Hayes. So can I can
I ask you about this you agree or disagree with the poll, do
you think do African Americans think that illegal immigrants
take jobs away from them?
Absolutely. I don't know what this other person getting that
information from but I'm on the ground out here in Los Angeles.
We call la occupy Los Angeles because we have lost all of our
rights. Essentially, black people in LA have indemnified we
can even go into neighborhoods that were once black plus three
of getting shot beaten up threatened, what have you. So
no, we It's not just about jobs, housing, education, health care.
It's about our 14th amendment birthright that they're stealing
from us. And I don't blame the people do not blame the people.
I blame my government for failing to protect us. According
to the Constitution of the United States.
Yes, straight up, man. And you can watch all those county
meeting videos council meetings. In, in Los Angeles, cool, people
are mad.
And you also can watch the news and gang wars. Yep. Between
between black street gangs in New Mexico street gangs. It's
getting it's really bad. And he was saying in California, where
they were actually denied. I didn't. I didn't want to, I want
to keep it political, but just an example. But there were
firebombing people houses of so I mean, it means getting real
bad out there. But I'll let Ted continue on about how they're
still in our birthright.
Do you agree with with President Trump then that illegal
immigration hurts black citizens more than it does other
Americans?
Oh, there's no question about it. And not just in the physical
realm of job and housing, health care. But the whole realm of
identity. For example, you've heard of anchors, and that is
anchor babies, but women who come to the country illegally
and have a baby, that child becomes a citizen. That is
totally wrong. That belongs to hold on slaves.
Hold on, you're saying that's you're talking about anchor
babies. I mean, I want to touch on that. So you are against the
so called anchor babies, the babies that were born in the
United States, given our Constitution, a constitutional
right that those children are American citizens. So you
disagree with that law?
That is not the that's not true. They've twisted that it's a
custom. If you please take the time. And you go to my website,
you can study Ted hayes.us. They have twisted the 14th amendment
to mean them and it's not read the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
Wait identifies slaves, that was who it's for. Yeah, yeah, we
need to we need an amendment to clarify that I think I'm with
Ted Hayes on this.
I am too, because what you're doing is you're bringing in
direct competition, and then it undercuts the, the salaries. Um,
everybody wants to talk about why the salaries are so low, and
you know,
yep. I was gonna say one of the regulations that I was reading
about when we were just a week ago. Visas are not being given
to anyone. Of course, that's always the case United States.
But if there's a suspicion at a foreign embassy, someone
requesting a visa, that they may be coming to United States to
have a child and they look like they're pretty pregnant. No
visa. That's and that's not really discussed right now,
amidst impeachment, and Kobe and Wuhan flu and all this. Not
otherwise, believe me, it would be top of the news. It would be
anything anti Trump, but that is happening.
And that's probably for that's more like a general election
kind of, yeah, well,
there's just too much going on. But it'll it'll pop up.
It'll, it'll make his way up. But this is what the Democrats
don't get. This is only gonna contribute when you start
arguing facts like that. You asked me a question A while
back, you said about Trump and he's saying about the
unemployment numbers. Belinda black community. Trump
understands the negative vote. People don't get that but he
understands the negative vote he can't say Oh, stay at home
because that's voter suppression. Right? Right. But
he's, I'm gonna give you a reason not to come out on
Tuesday.
Right. And that reason is just don't don't support anyone else
and I'll take care of it. Is that the idea?
That's the thing and it's like, These people haven't had your
back for so long. Are you going to continue to give me your
vote? And I will safely say I will be surprised if that number
falls somewhere around 50% Wow.
That's that would that would shatter the Democrat Party?
And I'm thumbs. I'm serious, cuz I'm talking to people. I'm like,
were you thinking about mail? I really don't like none of these
candidates.
So that's very interesting. You think that Trump in a way is
playing into this space? He's not saying it but he's signaling
Hey, they've given you nothing? Don't vote I'll take care of it.
You're doing better now. Don't vote for them don't vote don't
vote for me. Doesn't matter don't vote
at all those don't vote and it plays right into the A das I
gotta pay attention
I gotta pay attention that messaging see see how if he's
because he's very good at subliminal stuff. So I gotta, I
gotta pay attention to what he's doing there.
Oh, and before we wrap up with these last three clips, I just
want to make a point make a point of this is how a Das, the
group and I want to make that clear because a Das is a
lineage. And that's that's what I claim American descendants of
slaves. I mean African, excuse me American descendants of
slavery, but a das the group they started talking about
voting down ballot and man they got ran out of town. We covered
this on our show because like, No, we're not voting with the
partners you understand if it's not tangible. If we don't see in
our pocketbooks, we're doing just fine for the last three
years. Last time I checked, we were saying, This is me speaking
as a proverbial Hall. But last time I checked my phone when k
is looking better than ever look
right now, which is, which is part of Trump's message, right?
And you look and you'll and your wife thinks you're a genius.
Yeah, and job jobs are available, you can leave one job
and go to another job. It's not like you're, I'm not speaking
for everybody. But if you're gainfully employed, there's
opportunities. And this is just another example here. Um, wow,
work. They're building a $3 billion facility. Right? There
certain labor unions. None of the people speak English. Right.
So these things are noticeable. I mean, I'm not knocking, but
I'm just like, so if even if I wanted a job on that team, I
can't because I don't speak Spanish.
Right. It's the construction industry is I mean, it's yeah,
it's basically Mexican.
Yeah, you locked out. I mean, you're I mean, you're locked
out. Yeah. It just because of not even sanbao. Lineage or
ethnicity, just the language barrier. Yeah. If I'm working
with 12 other guys that speak nothing but Spanish can be
dangerous. Yeah, it can be dangerous. And then they're
gonna I'm gonna slow them down. So this is where this is where
we're at. And these are real. These are real happenings. Yeah.
Diversity in the construction business.
Where's that brown, black coalition net?
Where's the trans people in construction? Maybe I don't
know.
Now, that's true. But I'm just saying where I am if you guys
have kind of cornered the market in this in this union, you say I
am and we got thought of brothers, you know, four or five
spots. If there's a real coalition, I mean, that's how
coalition's work right? So
the brothers four or five of these. I can just see that
conversation never happened.
Exactly. And that's, that's why it's not a coalition. It's a
it's a it's a fallacy. But um, Ted hate the last two clips have
been so bad clips. But man, he really goes in and these next
two clips, Ted hates three. And these
folks have come into my country and the name, ironically, of
people of color, my color, skin color, and the Civil Rights
legacy. And recreating their struggle of whatever the
suffering in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Korea. Their
struggle is not to be equated with the struggle of my enslaved
ancestors and emancipated forefathers, for them to come
into my country and take my legacy is to rob me of
everything that I am. And if they get amnesty, then black
people in this country, we will die because of the illicit
numbers that are coming in this country to the to the erroneous
twisting of the 14th amendment. Okay. All right. Well, the
master fader slaves
Wow, she wasn't what did you want to shut him up? He should
have shut him down.
Did this the stain that she has in this next clip, and the
amount of her being condescending is so obvious, is
ridiculous. Tad, let
me interrupt you for a second. You know, you spoke about your
kind of black heritage and slavery and all of that. And you
call yourself a civil rights activist, activist, you're a
black man. Most of the protesters against this law say
this is a race issue. And this is the new civil rights era in
the United States. If that's true, how can someone like you
support this lie? Think for many people, it seems like a
contradiction here.
Because number one, these people who are claiming color are
actually white people, you return their documents, you read
the federal law, you read their own birth certificates, they are
considered Caucasian people, they are not black people.
Secondly, the business that the United States had with the
emancipation of slaves has never ever finished. You see, we
blacks lead the country in every we need to lead the country in
every negative social statistics that there is we are not
finished with us. So how can these folks come into my country
in the name of my civil rights and take it from us? That's why
the majority of black people in this country are against illegal
Did you hear what she said to him? Oh, yeah, you're a kind of
black. And you call yourself a civil rights leader?
Yeah, yeah. And who was she?
Oh for Artie. I don't I didn't catch your name. But for RT,
there's this is the RT Emmys. This is the closest you'll get
to mainstream news.
And as she Why was she White? Black? She was white, she was
white woman of whiteness.
Okay. Yes. They say you're, you're you're kind of black. And
there's a reason she's an AR T Mo. I mean, that's, that can
even be below podcasting. In some cases.
That's true, but it's like, the way she would spoke to him. Like
if the new civil rights and no no,
no, but you know, for for a future show, we really have to
look at the black leaders in America. I mean, and I'm saying
this in the context of just having seen a a shrine to Nipsey
Hussle on the Grammy Awards, which is produced by the whitest
man, I know Ken Erlich. It was his last show, and I work with
him. Now, I'm not a fan of Ken Ehrlich. But that That, to me is
an emblematic of the problem.
You know, what leaders, what leaders I mean, like Tavis
Smiley said, they sold their souls to Obama. All the leaders
are done, they're cooked. And that's why people on podcast and
hashtags are are the new leaders. That's why you're
seeing a groundswell.
I want you to highlight some of the new leaders
on the show. And I have been doing that. I mean,
no, I know, from time to time you bring in YouTube, here,
yeah,
we hear they these are the voices now we don't have the
thing that we don't need is leaders. We need people with
ideas that make sense. And this is this, kind of go back to what
I said before the Conservative Party is formed, or the
Republican Party is going around ideas. And it's like, if you're
on board with the idea, then we can we can work together, right?
It's not about identity. It's about ideas. And that's where
I'm headed. And I hope more people that share my lineage or
head the same way. If you don't share the ideas. No, it's not
about just know, this feel good thing we need to have, you know,
culture. And culture is shaped out of shared morals and a you
know, understandings. So that's, that's what's really been shaped
here. And if you're not on code or on board, sorry for you,
because we were not doing identity politics anymore. And
that's the whole
mo
point of the show.
No, you sound like an angry young black man. I am just
checking. Just
not I'm angry that when people tell you to get back in here,
but like she just did to this man get back in your body?
horrible. It's horrible.
Yeah, I digress, though.
But no, but I understand and and what I'm hearing, I'm actually
I'm hearing you frustrated. So well, well, I want I want to
identify who are who are the mean, is it Candace Owens, you
know? Exactly.
Because she's she I'm not saying because of what her ideas are,
cuz she has good ideas as well. But we're checking to see who's
backing. We're checking to wait for the other shoe to drop. And
like I said, I'm not harping on one group or the other group,
whatever. But when a doc did this pivot of No, we're not
voting. No, we're not voting tangible, tangible, tangible.
Then you come with this. Oh, yeah. Vote down ballot.
No. Explain. Explain. Explain the vote down ballot.
Okay, this is what they were saying was we're not going to
vote for president. But we're going to vote for everything,
you know, everything under that. And it's like, bro, everybody
vote straight ticket when you got to vote. Everybody has
mastered red button or blue button, right? And they're out
of there. So don't play that con game with me. Right. And I just
I'm not taking sides in this whole and I've kind of stayed
away from that whole thing.
I think Debono over there to voting down ballot that's a cop
out is what I'm hearing
is like, it's a con. It's not a cop out. It's a con. It's like,
once I get you in that voting booth, then what are you gonna
do? You're gonna do the easy thing. You're gonna match one
button or the other. But you know, right, you're not gonna
sit out there and fill out every bubble. Nobody does that. It's
like we pick teams like the Super Bowl. I mean, let's just
be honest. Yeah. So if it doesn't pass the smell test, and
that even goes through me if I come here talking crazy. Cancel
me. I'm serious. Because I mean we were we're it's just about
being independent thinking we're not being heard anymore free men
talking. Free man talking. So this last clip it just on a
lighter note was not really a lighter note but I got a
question for you. More Hispanics claim dot dot dot. What? What do
you think it is?
This is almost a Family Feud question. Yes more Hispanics
claim just based on Steve. Based on everything I've felt during
the past two hours I'm going to say more Hispanics claim to be
Caucasian.
Survey says
it was more Hispanics are identifying themselves as white.
According to new census numbers released today, estimates 1.2
million of the 35 million Hispanic Latino or Spanish
Americans change their race to white in the latest census.
Research suggests Hispanics who have experienced discrimination
are less likely to identify as white.
Okay, what do I win?
You sir, win another episode of the MO FX podcast. Adam curry
outstanding Well, I really appreciate this. And I think on
this episode I like talking and discussing some we sometimes the
topic and the clips warrant a little more conversation between
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Hopefully, hopefully the listeners enjoyed it as well.
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