July 31 2019 Moe Factz with Adam curry. This is episode number
one. Moe, how're you doing? I'm doing good man. So there you go,
I figured out the title of the show. Would you come up with Moe
Factz with Adam curry?
Like that? Yeah, you
already got the brand on the YouTube channel. So then
everywhere else.
I appreciate that. And I appreciate you being homeless.
Let me lead on the on the marquee Don't you
have you have to lead on the marquee. So this we're trying
something new here. This is a brand new show. This is the
pilot the premiere episode number one and little
background. Why I received an email from Moe, I don't know
maybe a couple months ago. And he explained he Yeah, he's a
listener to the node of the no agenda show. And he said, You
should really want to know what a DOS is about. And I think I
talked about DOS, descendants of slavery because I kept seeing
that pop up here and there, but I really didn't have a clue as
to what was what was going on. And so we started uh, actually,
I was on my honeymoon. That's what it was. And we were DMing
back and forth on on Twitter, and I was DMing. With you, I
think, all the way back to Texas. On the plane had we had
Wi Fi some were DMing back and forth. And I was like, Holy
crap, this guy's he's opening up a whole new world for me, I had
no idea this existed. And then we started chatting a bit. And,
you know, these phone calls would often last an hour. And
I'd take some of what I'd learned and take it over to the
no agenda show. And finally, I said, you know, this is we
should maybe record this, you know, this I if I'm getting
something out of it, and you're getting something out of it,
maybe other people will you want to tell the story from your side
mo because we never really talked about that.
So it was all fall in the HR 40. All right, the rest of the HR,
the reparations hearing, and you were shining a light on it. But
one thing that was missing from the story that you did was eight
OS, which eight OS is the reason why the whole respiration saga
has kicked up. And I think a lot of people don't realize that and
I wanted to bring attention to that. And I also wanted to bring
attention to the fact that it's not a Das is like a brand of
what what is called foundational blacks, native blacks. Are there
several different titles or names going around for black
people that are the descendants of slavery, American slavery.
And that's very important, because like you said, you
brought up DOS, but even after the term das came about a das
Bloom from that, because we need to be very specific. If we're
talking about getting rights, and getting reparations from
America, so I thought I would fill in the blanks that were
left out by the mainstream media. And I think that was the
goal was to leave eight us out the mainstream media. So I think
you guys are correct me if I'm wrong, like a derivative
derivative of the mainstream media. And if it's not there in
for you guys to pick it pull it out, then we can't get it.
You're absolutely right. You can't address it. So absolutely.
I thought it was my duty to reach out to you and you know,
be boots on the ground. And like you said, we taught we DM for
like seeing like days. Sorry. Sorry, Tina. I'm sorry.
Like, lovers like, DM and my man. Yeah.
Right. So um, and I think you were very receptive to, you
know, the information that I was giving you. And you did it
justice on the following show. And for now, I thought, you
know, I'll keep providing you what's really going on that the
mainstream media is not talking about.
And so as we were, as we were talking, then these conversation
just kept getting more interesting. And I was blown
away, because unless you are given a couple of data points,
you really wouldn't know that there's been this shift over the
years to address I'll just call black people. It's just easier.
That's a Doss, in my mind. But that term or people of color, or
even African Americans since Barack Obama, we know we knew we
know that African American didn't really mean anymore what
it meant because Barack Obama was not African American. He was
not strictly a Das. Correct. And
that's correct. And I think the term black at one time in this
country meant one thing, but over time due to mass emigration
from Africa, as well as other factors, that the term black no
longer represents what was once identified as descendants of
slavery of American slavery. So that's where I have to give
credit where credit's due Yvette Cornell and tone talks, and
Tonio more coined this term slash hashtag. And it really
stuck. And it gave us a descendants of slaves from
America something to rally around, but they're not the only
brand in town. So I want to be clear that but I think they have
the, the most popular brand branding of the term. And it's a
very unpopular, I mean, I'm just gonna be honest with you is very
unpopular, that we want to separate ourselves from the
monolithic, you know, monoliths of blackness, that, that the
mass media wants to panic says,
and it's not just mass media, it's if you listen to the
American government, they really don't even think about this.
They don't see the separation. It's more like, Yeah, I mean, we
were talking the other day about the Congressional Black Caucus.
In my mind, it's like, Oh, great weed. So we got the
Congressional Black Caucus over there. That's all gonna be a
Dawson. Yeah, no, no. Ilan Omar is in the Congressional Black
Caucus.
Correct. And it's the light. It's very. And I want to make it
clear that there's not there is a rift between aid OSs and some
black immigrants, but other black immigrants are being
supportive, and they're returned as allies.
Oh, what a politically correct term. Whoa, great. All right.
And
that's the term that, you know, if you're for American
descendants of slave receiving reparations from America, they
consider allies. But there is another faction that feel like
if we separate ourselves from, from the term black, then they
lose a little bit of how can I say this? Sympathy is a bad
word. But you know, whenever people use the term black, it's
it. You know, it's used as a leverage, leverage leveraging
tool, and politics. To know we want to address this black
thing. Was that black? Yes, yes. Well, you may use that you
mentioned
reparations. And you're right. That's how we started talking
over the HR 40 Bill, which was really a bill put in place to
start investigating the idea of reparations. And you said a
couple of things. So the reparations is a is a
complicated thing. But it depends on how you look at it.
Essentially, we just had a huge 911 reparations bill. I mean, a
really, really big one, we're talking 5060 $70 billion and
above and beyond insurance and other things. And I personally
think that might have been an insurance bailout, in a way,
certainly for the airline industry. But I think the term
will you use the phrase that reparations would be payment for
services rendered. And I really liked that, because you can
interpret that in so many different ways services rendered
to the Democrats, the Democrat party services rendered as
slaves. I mean, there's many different ways to interpret it.
And, you know, a lot of people like all reparations Yeah, no,
we shouldn't do it. Maybe we should. It's a lot of
discussion. But when you see what kind of reparations have
been paid to, to all kinds of people of all kinds of
tragedies. It's, it's very interesting to look at the
reparations for a DDOS and see that really, that's, I don't I
don't know if there's a lot of movement, if people really
understand what they want. If there's a real ask, you know, is
there a number and maybe that's what HR 40 is intended to do is
to come down to a number What do you think a DOS want?
Okay, so there is a number. There's a range of numbers,
where you talk about the hardcore, what they call, you
know, reparations pushers are demanders. They're talking in
the trillions of dollars. Yeah. multiple, multiple trillions up
to a part number as high as $20 trillion.
How do they calculate that?
So that's funny that you asked that if you watch the debate
last night.
Funny you say that I have the clip of Marianne Williamson,
let me you want to play that. Yeah,
I do. Because I've heard her talk reparations before of all,
we've also you and I have discussed are doing, you know,
kind of weird stuff in the church, which is seems a little
off message if, if you're trying to reach a certain group of
people. But last, and then we're doing this on on Wednesday, July
31, of the first of the of the second round of Democratic
candidate candidate debates. was held and Marianne Williamson
finally got it out all in one go. And I have to say, even
though she is unlikely to have any chance of becoming
president, but maybe she does, crazier things have happened. I
thought this was spot on message and cruising along Twitter
today, I didn't see as many people picking up on it the way
I guess I did. Here she is Marianne Williamson. Speaking
of reparations, Miss Williams, Miss Williamson, many of your
opponents support a commission to study the issue of
reparations for slavery, but you are calling for up to $500
billion in financial assistance. What makes you qualified to
determine how much is owed in reparations?
Well, first of all, it's not $500 billion in financial
assistance, it's $500 billion 200 to $500 billion payment of a
debt that is owed. That is what reparations is, we need some
deep truth telling when it comes. We don't need another
commission to look at evidence. I appreciate what Congressman
O'Rourke has said, it is time for us to simply realize that
this country will not He'll pee all over the country is as a
collection of people, people who will win, there's some deep
truth telling, we need to recognize that when it comes to
the economic gap between blacks and whites in America, it does
come from a great injustice that has never been dealt with that
great injustice has had to do with the fact that there was 250
years of slavery, followed by another 100 and 100 years of
domestic terrorism, what makes me qualified to say 200 to $500
billion. I'll tell you what makes me qualified, if you did
the math of the 40 acres and a mule given that there was four
to 5 million slaves at the end of the Civil War, now four to
five, and they were all promised 40 acres and a mule for every
family of four. If you did the math today, it would be
trillions of dollars. And I believe that anything less than
$100 billion is is an insult and I believe that 200 to 500
billion is is politically feasible today, because so many
Americans realize there is an injustice that continues to form
a tussle today underneath the surface, and emotional
turbulence. Reparations, thank
you very much. Well, there you go. There's your calculation.
Right. And that's the funny thing is that whoever is
coaching her on this topic has her spot on. Yeah, so she has
her finger on the pulse of what's being discussed on what
you want to call black YouTube, Black Twitter, or
I'm on gray Twitter at this point I got I got some black
Twitter coming into my feed, but I didn't see a lot about it Moe.
Of course, you're not gonna see a lot about it. Because first of
all, the numbers would make very make people very uncomfortable,
even herself, she has to dial it back. And I don't think she can
make herself even. I'm not her personally but her campaign to
save a T word trillion, right? So they have this a 500 million.
So isn't that interesting? We've got other candidates talking
trillions of dollars for healthcare, and for no one has a
problem with a trillion number, just in this specific case they
do.
Well, just look at the definition of what they're using
it as reparation. Even Don Lemon said assistance. And I'm glad
she corrected it there. Yes, that was assistance. And
she she used the she says it's a debt to payments owed I think
was but it kind of similar to what you said, you know,
services rendered. Its money that is owed is what she said.
Correct? And that's what I want people to fully understand is,
this is how descendants of slaves, American descendants of
slaves, look at this. Our great, great, great, great
grandparents, depending on how far or how old you are, render
services to this nation, I mean, by force, but we still render
services. And we were they were never paid back for that. So
it's not an assistance program. You know, it's payment for this
the work the hard work they did to get this country off the
ground. So when they want to say assistance, that is very
insulting. Because it's not assistance he wouldn't make it
makes it seem like welfare, or any other governmental program.
No,
right. Yes, words do matter in this case. Absolutely. And like
I
said, whoever's coaching her or whoever's informing her, whoever
is in her corner, Oprah Of course, right? They have her
spot on. And I was like, blown back. I was like, well, when she
when she first started out, I'm like, okay, you know, she she
went there, she said no, and I assistance. This is this isn't,
you know, and the other thing she said, and I'm not just
talking about it, and that's what HR 40 is about, and
that assistance is important, because as you and I have
discussed previously, affirmative action, which was,
as far as I know, really intended for the den unbranded,
a DOS has turned into something much, much broader.
That's correct. Um, White women when in general, immigrants of
all ilk take advantage of this. And even programs that are set
aside for even black people. They factor in African
immigrants that came here, or Caribbean immigrants that came
here after slavery. And I think that's a poor representation
because they don't know what there's that numbers are the
same. You have 7% Athos or 8%, eight Austen 5%. Immigrants post
repor. I'm a pro slavery, but then you have them over
represented in colleges, universities, places of
employment. scholarship dollars. That's a that's not how
affirmative action was set up to work. It was set out as probably
as a repayment of for, for what happened during slavery.
So I, you know, I, I've watched the vet on YouTube, watch or
watch the Antonia more. How big is this Athos movement. Do you
think and how divided if at all is the is our direct American
descendants of slavery on this issue?
is big enough to be a problem for the Democrats? Got it? No,
no kidding. You can see that. And that's the leverage point.
What we really have to look at is how we got here. I've sent
you some clips on that. And how we got here funny is because of
the election of Donald Trump, and the end, the 2016, the whole
campaign process. So if you want to play Hillary claiming period,
Hillary Clinton targeting black votes, is a campaign ad. We can
only see is that the first clip you have here? No, no, no.
It's just the ad.
I'm getting Oh, yeah, I got it here. Okay, here we go.
This is the newspaper of the Ku Klux Klan. Today. The front page
story is Make America Great Again, with a big photo of
Donald Trump. This man, will you unequivocally condemned David
Duke and say that you don't want his vote or that of other white
supremacists in this election? I don't know anything
about white supremacy or white supremacist. So I don't know.
Trump management was charged with discriminating against
African Americans and breaking federal law. If I was starting
off today,
I would love to be well educated, but because I really
believe they do have an excellent advantage. I have a
great relationship with the black. Oh, look at my African
American. Look at him. The man that was bad or you say roughed
up, he was so obnoxious, and maybe he should have been
roughed up. Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? What do
you have to lose? You're living in poverty, your schools are no
good, have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. The
violence is a data lack of education in these inner cities.
It's unsafe, you can't walk to the store and get a loaf of
bread. You get shot total poverty, drugs, and horrible,
horrible violence. What do you have to lose?
Wait a minute, this was a Hillary Clinton ad. Yes. Oh, my
goodness. That Yes. Oh, okay. Well, yeah, break this down,
because I understand what you're saying here.
First of all, if you notice the music choice, yep. It was
pandering to the spirituality of black people. This little light
of mine. And this is this pandering that the Democrats do
is struck a nerve and you know, and it's gotten to a boiling
point, with black certain factions of black people, that
has become very noticeable. It's similar to how when they speak
with the black Minister voice when they come to talk to black
people in crowds of black people. Also the fear mongering,
you know, it's like all you don't vote for us, the boogeyman
is gonna get you. But when you listen to Trump in that ad, a
lot of the things that he says, are the result of Hillary
Clinton and the Democrats policies, the conditions of the
black community, what do you have to lose? Now? I think we
brought it up in a conversation that resonated with black
people. And Black Twitter black, I'm gonna say it's not black,
Twitter and black YouTube, and it was a lot of YouTube content,
content creators, I know that that term gets at you, but even
Yvette Cornell, she made a very, very good videos, listening to
things we didn't have to lose. We're at the bottom right now.
Um, and that's, I think this was a poor ad. Because it was she
was very tone deaf that how this thing could come back are
well, in fact, not just a poor ad, but it seems like it would
have the adverse effect reinforce what Trump said What
have you got to lose with a big echo too. I like that at the end
there,
right? Just to break down. One thing, it was a bad idea for her
to bring up the birth of the attack on Obama were hurt when
her husband was labeled as the racist in 2008. Well, well,
but it's kind of a thing. I mean, I've I've looked back over
the, you know, going back to? Well, certainly Bush Jr. is it
presidents or certainly white guys always called racist
somewhere.
Right. But the thing was in 2008, she was that racist when
she was running against Barack Obama, right, because Bill
Clinton, quote, This guy would have been carrying our bags. And
then a few years ago, this guy would have been getting us
coffee. And then you've got Hillary citing it the June was
1968 assassination of Robert F. Kennedy. Oh, right. For her
remaining in this in the presidential win odds were
against her. So what I'm saying is when you juxtapose her record
against Trump record, a lot of black Americans said what is the
difference? Why, you know, so
and youth and I don't know, the numbers have never really
clearly explained, but it seems like Trump did get a boost in in
black votes from from that.
Yeah, yes, he did. Um, he got a boost. And it's the thing that
we discussed, I don't think it's widely discussed is the what I
term is the negative vote. If you can make a person stay at
home that would normally vote, especially the turnout that
Brock Obama saw in 2008 and 2012, by making people think,
and they said, Well, you asked, we asked that question. I really
had to sound like, what do we have to lose? We had a president
for, you know, for eight years that was supposed to be in for
us. And we got nothing out of it. Nothing. So that was the
real question like What do we have to lose? And Democrats?
What are you going to give us and that was the birth of the
RIP right now notice the long shaggy dog story, but that is
how reparations argument came about. Because he's like, Oh,
now we have your attention. Now you need us Got it. Got it. Yep.
Right. So now that's the leveraging it like and I know
people that why are they why are they not attaching the
Republicans while they attach a Democrat, because black, the
black society, black community has wholeheartedly voted for
Democrats for a very long time. And you want to bring citizens
non citizens here promised them things every other group
promised and things but we're just supposed to turn out. And I
have other clips is going to support that, but I'll let you
take the lead. While I was
and definitely want to go there at two questions. Just one
little off topic. As a black man, when you hear Trump say,
Where's my African American? There he is. How does that come
across to you?
Has it come across?
Does that come across to you as like an old guy who's just
racist? And pandering? Does it come across as a guy who was
like, I don't know. I mean, it's that's the question. To me. It
and I think to a lot of white people is like, cut a dick.
Don't say it like that, you idiots. That's wrong.
Right? So how it came across to me is Oh, white guy. Yeah. That
that's how it came across to me. Did it sit? Well with me? Not
really. But like I said, we have to look at the elections, our
choice between two people is not the perfect candidate is between
two people. And Democrats gave us nothing to um, to go vote for
them for and really, and I'll be honest with you, there's a
sentiment in the black community that illegal immigration is
harmful to certain things planned parenthood is harmful to
us. So when you have a guy talking, like Trump is talking,
you will openly say oh, yeah, support this guy, but he's like,
you know, saying que sera, sera, whatever will be Roussanne
whatever will be will be, that's kind of that, you know, you
know, will you you know, compare to to So, but, you know, there's
there's such a push back against a DDoS. In fact, that's at a
certain point, I think that kind of launched on Joy read show on
MSNBC. All these hashtag aid officers, just Russian bots and
don't worry about it. That's really nothing to see here,
which was very odd. I mean, besides being factually untrue
but there's I think, you know, there is a big, certainly in
mainstream media, there's this just it seems like it's covering
up pushing back doesn't exist. Even though the lot of mains
Green people will use similar term. Actually what I'm getting
to is I saw and this is, I guess, the guy who's most again
are a big issue for the A das movement. I saw him on MSNBC the
other day very odd in the mid day with Stephanie rule,
Charlemagne, the god and the Charlemagne the god is a very
influential guy amongst black America. And the reason why he's
influential becomes apparent when you just hear His credits.
Joining me now the one and only Charlamagne tha God his radio
show The Breakfast Club is syndicated in 90 markets across
the nation. That means 8 million listeners a month, his audience
is 77% African American or Hispanic. That makes up nearly
1/3 of the Democratic Party electorate. This man has
interviewed half of the 2020 Democratic contenders for
president and I promise you, the other half need to know that
they need to pay him a visit Charlamagne I'm really glad
you're here with me today. Thank you for having me.
So he's got a lot of radio stations. This is a big
audience. Certainly for radio. I think the Breakfast Club is
incredibly popular. But he is really seems like the OP. I
don't know what his background is. But he seems very much
against this idea.
Right, and I think he's becoming a this is just my personal
opinion. I think he's becoming a political operative. The thing
is this, and actually, Charlemagne to God got a lot of
pushback because he's like pro Kamala Harris. Yes. And Kamala
Harris is not seen as a Das.
Well, she's not she's strictly right. She's Jamaican and
Indian.
That's correct. So what was happening is, I want you to
notice a trend here. Kamala Harris, she's not very strong on
the reparations talk. She had to be pulled kind of by her nose
into the conversation. You have like you brought up Joy read?
She's not a DDoS. Right. Call this black bots, you know.
Right. So you have wrecked me, excuse me Russian bots. But you
had like black bots better. And the you have these media
blackout of the word Athos. I mean, come on. You have you've
heard the term Bernie Bernie Bros. You heard the term of
these other political factions, but you never have heard once
the word Athos, or foundational blacks, or if even the fact that
there's an uprising in the black community. All right,
well, we won't vote well, so right there, and I want you to
get into your clips. Isn't that by definition? Some racist
movement?
Yeah, what Yeah, I mean, it's, but who's pushing it? It's the
Democrats. I mean, look, if you if you're not pro Democrat, you
don't have a voice. And, and this is kind of off the subject.
But even Colin Kaepernick felt the wrath. And I wish I would
have had this clip available out and I could tell you what
happened. He was mad. He was like the golden boy, taking a
knee fight in the NFL everything. But when he came out
and said, I'm not going to vote for neither Hillary Clinton or
Donald Trump, obviously. They, they basically dropped media
blackout
on him. Because he didn't say, Yeah, I'm all in for Hillary,
you have to be all in and you have to be all in for the party
choice. Um, you got the same thing with any Bernie Sanders
voters, if you um, if you have big toe the party line, because
they need us to turnout um, and if you want to go to let's see.
Let's go to the Obama and Hillary campaign for votes.
Okay.
If I hear anybody saying this
is the one you're talking about? Yes, this is it. Okay. If
I hear anybody saying their vote does not matter, then it doesn't
matter who we elect. Read up on your history, it matters. We've
got to get people to vote. In fact, if you want to give
Michelle and me a good send off, and that was a beautiful video,
but don't just watch us walk off into the sunset now get people
registered to vote. If you care about our legacy, realize
everything we stand for is at stake on the progress we've made
in the state in this election. My name may not be on the
ballot, but our progress is on the ballot.
All right. So listen to the tone is okay. Let me give you a
little background. This is Obama at the NAACP 106 national
convention pre the pre election 2016 And I want people to know
this listen at The tone of how he's talking to black people.
Yeah, he's totally talking black. And not only that, but
listen to the tone how he's talking down to you. If I hear
anybody say, like, What are you talking to like this? I mean,
this is how these things were received. Like, she put him out
there like all your work your Obama magic, get them back in
line, everybody had to fall in line. And like you said, he
said, um, the question is, how has our vote mattered up until
this point, we will elect you for eight years. You don't say
your last year is when mass incarceration came out of your
mouth. You know, I'm gonna go there. This was a sentiment and
I'm gonna give you all the inside baseball, I'm saying to
black politics. When Barack Obama was was was elected in
2008. The sentiment was a he can't You can't do nothing. The
first term, okay. You know, he's got to play it cool.
Really. He's got a brother Brock gotta ease in.
Right. He got to play it cool. But we get him in 2012 all day,
he can let the floodgates go. So you know, that's why you really
never had never heard any criticism of him. Besides things
like Tavis Smiley and maybe Cornel West. I mean, they kind
of came at him a little while they got rid of Tavis Smiley,
and I didn't say very much so because he wasn't toeing the
party line. And this is all politics. This has nothing to do
it race per se, in the fact that oh, what's good for black
people. It's about what's good for Democrats, and that we are
strong voting bloc and 90%. You know, we turnout I think around
like 60, somewhere in the 60% of the population, but 30 million
that turnout. And then the key states you got to look at in the
South Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina. Um, these are
these are the strongholds um, of high Athos populations. But when
you say our progress, we're asking what progress so just
back to the inside baseball, so we waited for 2012 Okay, okay.
He got it got elected. 2012 Nothing. Not one thing.
Isn't that interesting that there's a similar sentiment with
Trump that he's playing right now? Same idea. Okay. We had all
these all this crap, you know, been with the with the
Democrats. But do you elect me now to Oh, why it's gonna
happen.
Right? We can't drain the swamp right now. Yeah, that's it
right. And that's what I said is the weird polar opposites that
Obama and Trump had. Where you had Magga was created by Trump.
Athos is the weird polar opposite of, of a of Magga.
Around the way it's being demonized, similar to mag Yeah,
you know, you have these weird things going. But like I said,
when we got him back and off, Not we but when black people got
him back in and they turned out me. You saw the pictures. You
saw the lines going down around the block. We turned out for
him. And you pick transgender bathrooms as your heel to die
out nothing against transgender. I'm not I'm not saying that. But
this is how it was perceived to black people. This is the heel
you choose to die on,
right? Hey, where's that? Where's the eight oz hats, man,
there's the marketing problem.
I don't know where the paraphernalia isn't. There I am.
I am not a card carrying member of a das group. But I am
lowercase A and often what I mean by that is my parents, USA.
My grandparents are our descendants of slaves. I come
from a line of sharecroppers. My great grandfather was a great,
great grandfather was a sharecropper. I have his books.
I mean, he was a very intelligent man, he kept perfect
records. So I want to dispel that myth. You're saying that
and people weren't intelligent either.
And just just to be clear, Adolph you don't have to have
both parents descending from slavery, correct.
Right. And that's the thing. We're, we're not we but we're
not saying and I gotta say we, but not as a lowercase A Das.
We're not exclusive. We're not excluding people. We're saying
if you have one parent or half of one parent, you know, um, as
long as you have lineage going back, and I think that's one of
the things gonna have to be figured out. How do you split up
the money who gets what? But that's not the concern of the
people cutting the check and you hear this sentiment, cut the
check, because what people want to do is get you in a circle
argument of who will get the money where the money come from.
Cut The Check. That's that's the mantra. You know, you want our
vote, and we're talking specifically to Democrats
because you're the ones that gotten our vote for so long, and
came to us empty handed you only show up the last So Sunday
before elections to our churches, and you say, remind us
to vote and want to go into this part to that clip we just
played, okay, they're ready.
And after we have achieved historic turnout in 2008, and
2012, especially in the African American community, I will
consider it a personal insult, an insult to my legacy. If this
community let down its guard and fails to activate itself in this
election, you want to give me a good set up, go.
Listen to the tone, live, listen to the tone, he said it their
historical voter turnout in 2008, and 2012. And that's what
Hillary thought she was gonna get. But the problem is she and
I know we're going back in history. But we gotta go back.
To understand how we're at this point, right now. You know, how
to enter the 2020 election. Because when you have a God that
didn't give us anything, for eight years, and you show up
right before the election, you talk to us like, this is a
personal insult to my legacy, if we my legacy, and then he says,
he didn't save my community or our community, he said, This
coming out very words matter. Words matter. And he didn't make
himself inclusive in the community. You know, and then
that last night, if you want to want it back a little bit, he
said, If this, you know, if black people don't activate
itself, they don't want to engage. They don't want
engagement, they want activation, they can just turn
us on, you know, you know, the last quarter or last year out of
every four, and then we activate go vote, and then we understand
we laid dormant and you're saying docile,
oh, my second election, you want to give me a good set up,
go vote. That part, we want to go back further,
I'll go back a little bit further.
So to my legacy, if this community lets down its guard
and fails to activate itself in this election, you want to give
me a good set up. Go vote.
I always like to this community, you know, whenever I hear
someone say, yeah, the LGBTQ community, the black community,
I'm like, they know fucking community, run exist and
community I despise that.
But in this case, when we're talking about politics, black
politics. It's a monolith. Yeah. Not in thought. But a when it
comes time, wherever the Democrats pick. That's what you
vote for. That's the expectation. And surprise,
surprise, we're not there anymore. And just one funny
thing, just as a side note, I know we had the whole Trump rat
infested Baltimore. Yes, thing. I got a quote here from Obama.
And he's saying speech. And he says, what doesn't make sense is
treating an entire neighborhood as more than danger zones, where
we just around them, we ask police to go in there and do the
tough job of trying to contain hopelessness. And then he goes
on to say And lift those communities out of hopelessness.
And then he expressly says, West Philly West Baltimore, Ferguson.
Well, the outrage when he blanket blanket he covered a
community like West Baltimore is dangerous zones and contains
hopelessness.
Well, that's, you know, that's what the Democrats would call
What about isn't, and, but it's true, of course, and meeting the
President Trump's has all kinds of things that Barack Obama has
said same policies and you know, but then that's always flipped
back and forth. That's American media. That's American politics.
But actually, when I heard Charlamagne, tha God talking
about this, he brought in something else that just was a
real headshake. Or listen to this.
This weekend. He goes after Elijah Cummings. He didn't go
after him and say, and here's my new Marshall plan to save
Baltimore and all these other oppressed communities. He
pointed the finger and then step back in the Oval Office, will
voters say, Hold on a second, you've been President, what did
you actually do?
Absolutely. You're the president of the United States of America.
If you think that, you know, Baltimore is a problem, then go
fix it. Since some federal aid there, you know, you want to
make America great again, then start with Baltimore. You know,
but once again, it's just systemic racism and oppression.
That's the only that's the only reason he's having this
conversation. But we're letting him distract us from the fact
that it started with the conversation about the kids at
the border. Like let's get back to that, like don't let him
change the subject so easily by talking about Baltimore and
Donald Trump. Don't give a damn about the black kids in
Baltimore. Are those brown kids at the border?
I thought this was amazing. He takes it right back to another
thing that actually hurts poor black people, is illegal
immigration.
Exactly. And that's the that's the thing that irritates the
hell out of me. Why you have the spotlight on the poor black kids
in Baltimore. Like you say, look, the their conditions is no
better than you know, the ones at the border. No, you want to
pivot? And say, oh, no, no, no, that look over there. Because
you know why? Because Baltimore has been democratically ran for
almost 40 years. Their representation hasn't done
anything to make it better. And that's another thing, you're
shining a light on a problem that they don't really want to
have a conversation about. And in the in the Oh, and the black
social media sphere. There was like, Yeah, Baltimore is a
crappy place to live. You know, it is let's just let's just be
honest, that's why people don't want to live there and let his
gentrified? You know, you get rid of the poor people. And then
yeah, yeah, we can live there. So but it's weird that everybody
wants to focus on illegal immigration. And like you say,
and these things that are detrimental, because I mean,
let's be honest, a good portion of black society is in direct
competition to illegal immigrants, when they come here
are immigrants in general, but illegal immigrants. You know, to
be specific, and you want to bring more here, and that's not
out of hatred, but it's like, Hey, we're in line first. And we
had the biggest debt. And if you got money to spare a throw that
in on the check for reparations, I mean, like, it's like meat on
you. $20 like, for 2020 years. And now you know, and I'll tell
you about all the other people I pay back, you know, I still
haven't gave you $20 back. It's very, very disrespectful.
And it was just it was odd to hear Charlemagne say that and it
just like, man, we really being propped up like a puppet in this
case. I mean, there's a there's a very popular guy, you know,
he's he's dressed like black American, he's got his, you
know, his crew baseball cap on he's, he's completely in
character, and really just seemed like he was telling white
people what they wanted to hear, which would make sense for that
show at that time.
Right. And then he has all the he's had all the presidential
candidates come on his show the breath. Yeah, it's a obligatory
stop now. And he throws do softball questions like asking
Kamala Harris does she smoked weed? How does that help us? And
it's, well,
come on. That was funny. It was
it was funny, but it's like, yeah, you have a guy um, you'd
have a guy or a woman in front of you ask a serious question.
But now that's not what you get. You know, we get this and it's,
it's very they don't take a serious, but they will. They
will take us serious once they realize that in another term, or
you can everybody can go through is tangibles. 2020 are
tangibles. And in general, the black portion of people is
withholding their vote will not turn out until they see
something tangible offered. Tangible is 2020. You said right
tangibles 2020 is one of the hashtags that you can follow. If
you don't if they don't count with something to the table. And
I just want to go back a little bit. Even if I'm saying Mary Ann
Wilson was uncomfortable with Sandra trillion words I want to
make. I want to make that very clear to people in the innocent
and the listeners that she can even bring herself to say, black
people are asking for a trillion dollars. No, she had to softball
and black hair 200 billion.
She did walk it back. She did walk it back. That's true. She
did, right.
Because if you just talk about anything, she said, if you add
up but you know, we were promised 40 acres and a mule.
This is her words. 40 acres and a mule. If you do the math,
that's trillions of dollars. So just say $2 trillion, if she
said poetry and so now you're asking us to take a 90% hit
the American way, man, come on, shut up. We'll make you whole on
the back end. Don't worry about it.
Just I just want to go back to Charlemagne, because I just, you
know, I find them so iconic. And here's what he had said about
voting one party or the other
because you know, if America is in danger, like who do you think
is going to be impacted the most by whatever racist policies, you
know, whatever policies that are,
by the way, he's pretty sure Trump's a racist, just in case
you hadn't noticed press whatever
policies that marginalize, like who's next to be in
concentration camps in America? It's not going to be white
people? I don't think so we if we if we know what's good for
us, we will definitely go out there and vote. But I don't
think there's anything wrong with making sure that the
Democrats have a black agenda. Like we've been loyal to the
Democrats for a long time and would have Democrats really done
for us in a real way. So I don't think it's anything wrong with
you know, asking Democrats to have a specific BLACK AGENDA
don't hit us with the whole a rising tide lifts all boats
because we know black people's boat has a hole in it. So it
doesn't it doesn't rise with the breath of America.
Now he's saying what you're saying.
Yes, he's saying what I'm saying Paying, but at the end of the
day, and at the end of the day, whoever gets elected as if even
if it's Hillary Clinton again, just like she comes out of
retirement, what happens? It will be suck it up and vote for
her. And I'll just go on to another clip, a super predator.
super predator. Yes.
In 1994, Bill Clinton wanted to pass a crime legislation, and it
was three strikes bill. So if you guys this
is what Young Turks,
this is Young Turks. Yes, this is during the 2016, primaries,
three felonies, you get a life sentence. Hillary Clinton was
the First Lady and aggressively lobbied for. She gave a speech
in 94, defending this piece of legislation. Now, she had many
different defenses to it. And some of it were good parts of
the bell, including community policing. And here in this clip,
she's going to be telling you about gangs, not just all kids,
not just black kids. But when they talk about super predators,
they almost always meant young African American kids. And so
here's Hillary Clinton, talking about what should be done with
them
aren't just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the
kinds of kids that are called super predators, no conscience,
no empathy, we can talk about why they ended up that way. But
first, we have to bring them to heel,
bring them to heel. Very rarely was the term super predator ever
used in reference to white kids? Perhaps sometimes in reference
to the Columbine kids, but almost always, when talking
about black kids in inner cities who are in gangs. So I'm giving
you the full context. It wasn't just that she was talking about
super predators. And it wasn't just railroad kids walking down
the street. But was it racially use that term? Yes, it most
certainly was. It was used over and over by Republicans, adopted
by the Clintons, to scare everybody. Oh, watch out for the
super predators. They have no conscious, they have no empathy.
We're going to bring them to heel.
Alright, so the reason why I wanted to play this clip was
this is during the primaries, the you know, the Young Turks
were backing Bernie Sanders. So this was an attack ad or attack
piece against Hillary Clinton. But once Hillary Clinton was
selected as the nominee, they come back to black people and
say, oh, yeah, you know, all this stuff we said about her
forget about that. Vote for. So I brought that up just to bring
up the fact with, with Charlamagne tha God, he'll talk
all this talk. And they say, Oh, well, we ask them for something.
At least, you know, we, we got a hearing, you know, to talk about
what we could talk about sound reparations. Now a meeting to
plan a meeting. But when it really talks about getting
something delivered, oh, well, we do what we could, you know,
but go vote Democrat, right? This is this is what we get? And
it's like, no, you're gonna have to promise us something big.
Until you do that, and you come out and not, you know, I'll be
mealy mouthed about him. Whoa, well, you know, we're going to
do something we all we're gonna do, we're gonna take care of
you, I'll give you a program now. Pay us for debts rendered
me services rendered. And then we could tell and NASA real
sentiment among a large enough population, a population of
black descendants of slaves and their and their allies, to
withhold our vote and be very damaging to the Democratic Party
just on the reparations, and cut us a check and pay us it's kind
of the same conversation that's being had now being held now
about student debt reparation. Let's just call it what it is.
Because you got screwed by the government and your school. So
we're gonna give you reparations, it's a big promise.
In so who does that go to? How does that work? How much money
is it? Would can you spend it on anything? Will it help you that
what's the thinking on that?
What's the thing Oh, that is they think that that could be
one of the one of the things straw man Charlemagne, the guy
says, that's one of those on rising tide lifts all boats,
boats, but that's not specific enough.
No, no, but I'm what I'm saying is. So all of a sudden, here's a
trillion dollars, we're going to give that to $1. That's your
debt. Debt paid. So what are you expecting? What is everyone
expecting? And then what is the what will the Learn to long term
effects of that be? Will it really raise everybody up? Will
it will it do good? Or is it like lotto winners, everyone
goes nuts and goes drugging and whoring and then it's all spent,
I mean, what what has as Is there any thought about that?
To be honest with you, there'll be some winners, and there'll be
some losers. Some of the money will and I'm just I'm a very
honest person. Some of the money will go back Back to corporate
America. I mean, let's just be honest, because there'll be
spent unwisely, if that's the word, you know, but it'll just
be this pissed away. And you know, but we can't think like
that. We're talking about what somebody is owed. You know, if
we're talking about our program to help people, that's one
thing. And that's why we really asked why I said Marianne
Williamson to, you know, redirect. Don Lemon, who was a
black man, you know, allegedly come with the service.
I mean, he may be fading man, I don't know. Right? Yeah.
That guy has said so many questionable things. But yeah,
don't worry, you can't worry about how that person is going
to spend the money when you owe it to him. Now, if you're giving
money to somebody, that's different. All right, because
you say, Oh, how are you going to spend this money that we set
aside to help you? Well, that's that's what I said, the context
of what this what reparations really is, is is owed. It's not
not a give, not assistance. So to be honest with you, yes. Some
people will piss the money away. Is there? Yes, it will.
Yeah, you're right. You're right. Is there a legal case
where the 40 acres and a mule? Is that the right path? Is that
the way to go? Is that? Because I see inflation? I see how the
calculation works. But is, is that? Yeah, I think that's the
right question. Can a legal case be made if 40 acres and a mule
equals this today?
Right. So who I wasn't supportive, and he's no longer
living is a Johnnie Cochran. Back in the 90s. He had a we
wanted to go about it. And then if Santa and as a legal action,
not a political action, right. Um, I think that's the me
personally, I think that's the best way. Because you will get
you will get better traction, and then it doesn't like a
handout, right? Where it gets political it is getting the
right judges appointed that have the mindset to support a legal
action is that so that's what I'm a big supporter of is going
the legal route. But what we have to do then is a candidate
say yes, I will appoint judges, it'd be similar to like a
Planned Parenthood or reproductive rights. What is
your stance on this? Now for judges, and then you know, we
appoint the appropriate people. That way, when you get to
federal court, you know, it'll it'll be settled in the way it
needs to be settled. So yeah, I think it could be I think that's
more realistic. But I honestly don't think a candidate can
bring themselves to say the number that would be meaningful
enough, because I don't think half would be not half a
trillion dollars. Not going to get it. Yeah, but trillion
dollars is not going to come even go back to what she said.
$100 billion, is laughable? Yeah. So. So they say two is
not? I don't? Yeah. What are you saying? I mean, what are we
saying? I don't know.
Yeah, they I gotcha. I gotcha.
No, it's just, I don't know, it. Just it. Even when somebody is
doing well, they may have to, you know, back themselves up,
because how will be received. But I don't see that with
illegal immigration people come here. Like I say, I get it. If I
could cross the border illegally and live a no 10x Better Life?
Who's to say I wouldn't. I understand it, but for
politicians to seriously say, yeah, come here. And we're gonna
give you everything that the you know, the bottom rung of
citizens have or more, because you were good at breaking the
law. I honest. I don't get that. You know, but then when people
of my ilk, ask for things that we feel we deserve. It's like,
oh, no, we can't do that.
Right. Yeah, I understand the frustration, which is the whole
fascination I have, which has led to this show. I mean, this
is stuff that I just don't think about. And to be honest, I don't
see any of this talk coming out of Trump and nothing.
Reparations wise, and I doubt it will ever happen under a Trump
presidency.
So here's why I think I think Trump has hard enough time and
I'm not a Trump apologist. I understand how he can be viewed
as being problematic, but he has hard enough time holding his
loosely held together. Base because his base is made up of
many different factions of people that he can't even if he
wanted to keep can't take this own But as a jab to Obama, once
he's in this kind of weird thing, like I said about the
2012 thing, who's to say what Trump was saying once he's
reelected? I mean, it's true. We saw what we saw what he's done
with mass incarceration. Yeah, nobody, I mean, keep trying to
get rappers out of jail in other countries. I mean, if you're
following the ASAP, yeah, it's like, so it's like, you really
can't get your head around Trump. I mean, cuz he's so
unorthodox that you think you can put them in a box over here,
but it's like, that doesn't line up with that. That thought
process? Yeah, good point. Good point. Um, I think just, I'm not
again on a tangent, but I think he's a hospitality guy. And what
did I do?
That's a good point.
You want a man on your pillow? Okay. Got it.
Welcome to Trump, Trump. Trump country.
Yeah, right. He's Yeah, he's everything to everybody. I mean,
it's that we're, you know, I'm that's why I think he's, he's
carving out his base out of out of many different groups,
and you think he's carving out a black base? Do you think he has
a support, like a real identifiable support?
We talked about this off air. And this is a real sentiment.
Donald Trump breathed life back into the black patriarchy. Ah,
because the way patriarchy as a whole was suffering. The fact
that, you know, and if I'm gonna say it like this, but make let
their nuts hang again, you know, like, they had to rescind it.
You know, it's like, I can't say that, you know, I can't do that.
You can't
say any of that either. But okay, I love it on the show.
I'm sorry. But that's how it was like, man, like, I mean.
Yeah. So the the patriarchal hierarchy within, within black
families is demonstrably incredibly hurt. There's a lot
of kids growing up who do not have an established father
figure around all the time. I mean, that's that's a fact.
Correct. And now, let me ask you a question. Why do you think
that is? Not to put you on the spot. honest answer to what why
you think it's not the right answer. But why do you think
that is?
You know, historically, there's so many different explanations
for this. And I've never really taken a position on why, but I
would say certain welfare programs, I think were
misguided. Yes, go ahead. Did fill me in.
It started there. It started there. And, you know, that was
there was a thing called no man in the house rule. That's where
if you want to public assistance, the man had to be
removed from the home.
Ah, that's, that's yes. Yeah. I knew I was close.
Right. So you as I just wanted to see what you're saying. Why,
why are we here now where it's acceptable. 75% of black
children are born in single parent household, most of them
being led by women. How did we get here? Because when you say
you can't have a man in a household if you want your kids
to eat, that's a girl miracle. Yes. And that was a government
funding and supported. What was this called? Again? What was a
no no man in the house rule? If I'm correct. Okay. Yeah, I did.
I did a show about this destruction of the black family.
And this is this was a real rule. And then you factor in
housing projects. You know, basically warefare became the
father. The state became the father. This was
set up in 1968. Right?
Yes. If you go back at one time black, two parent households are
higher than white two parent households.
Yes. So this was 68. And that was the AFDC program aid to
families of dependent children. And there you had the man in the
house rule that you were not ineligible if there was a man in
the house. Was that under set Johnson huh?
Yes. He's a what?
A Democrat.
Thank you. Yeah. Gotcha. thing I need to get a bill.
And and he was super racist. There's lots of evidence of how
racist he was Johnson. No, yes. He was. facetious, Amina, okay.
If you listen to people Talk Oh, and I got attacked. Or optic I
sent you the they interaction I have with the guy that called
Athos. What was it weaponized ignorant? Yes. Yeah. The
professor. Right. The professor is saying he's a professor, you
know, black history and other topics. Yeah, he called Athos
weaponized ignorance, but his favorite president was on Lyndon
B. Johnson.
Right, exactly.
So that's when all of these things were weird place. Because
with the internet, with all the information myths being, you
know, brought to the surface, when you have Malcolm X being
against liberals saying be careful of liberals, you know,
and the people they bring in front of us as being puppet
while he was very clear, he didn't like anybody's especially
white people. But he said the Liberals are worse.
Right? He called it The Fox and the wolf. Yes. And the thing was
with a wolf, you know, what a wolf was about, you know, he's
gonna eat you, like a fox, it'll sneak around. So when you have
these things resurfacing, and reshaping the way people will
look at things, the luster has been worn off of what the
Democrats had, you know, the spell has kind of been broken.
And that's why you have a segment of society being called
aid off and their allies. They say, You know what, foundational
blacks, I want to make sure I don't want to piss anybody off
by not giving their term any love.
But, you know, it's foundational blacks term.
Right? That's another it's like I say, a Das is just a brand
like Tupperware we all call every plastic bowl Tupperware.
It was not made by Tupperware got it or a coffee machine. We
call it a Xerox machine. But you know, it's kind of like the
term. But what you have is a group of black people say, You
know what, we're not falling for it anymore. You do it without
us. And the Democrats know they can't. So they are between a
rock and a hard place. Got it?
What else you got here to play?
Just one last set of clips. And that's from Fox News. It was
just talking about the importance of black, black voter
turnout.
In early voting, you can actually tell who is voting not
which way they voted, but who's doing it. In states like North
Carolina, the black vote is down 16% from 2012. Listen to
President Obama urging black voters get out there and vote
please.
To put a little pressure on you, but the fate of the Republic
rests on your shoulders. The fate of the world is teetering.
And you North Carolina are gonna have to make sure that we push
it in the right direction. If Hillary wins North Carolina she
wins. When I've said the fate of the Republic rests on you. I
wasn't joking.
Not pretty strident stuff. They're joining us now Stacy
Washington, Taavet. Stacey on the right. I think can I say
this? I'm looking at a headline in the Financial Times out of
Britain today. It says Obama rallying cry to black voters, as
polls show Trump making gains. Now, it seems to me that maybe
black voters hold the key to the entire election. Is that right?
Is that right? And there you have? Yes, it is. And for a
very, very long time. As they say the rabbit has the gun. The
rabbit has the gun. So what what are they going to do? And the
thing is, we don't have an I don't wanna speak for all of any
group. But we don't have any loyalty to any political party
whoever will step up and show they want to really, you know,
help our community will listen. It this is not this is the most
leverage with the Democrats. But is
this really true mo I mean, and why is it different now? Because
you know, for the saints you know, blacks vote for Democrats
is just that's just the fact of life you grow up just like us,
do you you vote you will vote Democrat is different now
because of the internet because of different channels of
information. It will it really be different is it Are we just
sitting here blowing in the wind? Do you really feel this?
So the percentage won't change of who votes and where they how
they vote? What would change it Is that the percentage will that
turn out, and I got it in 2012, it was 66.6%. And in 2016, it
was 59.6. And that's even before the term aid off, and these
reparation demands even begin to happen. So it's not about the
percentage of, you know, like I said, you always gonna have 90
High 80s 90% of who votes vote Democrat, what you're going to
not have is, you know, if that thing drops under, say, 55% 50%,
the Democrats will never win another election. And that's
just the numbers. That's just the numbers.
So it's pretty close. We're within a point or so of that.
None of that. Right. So
like I said, it's in 2016, it dropped down to 59.6. And they
lost. And that's why that's why I'm determined. I'm talking
about the negative vote. Now, when you're talking about start
swinging those over to the other side? Oh, I mean, we you hear a
question about reparations being asked at a major political
debate, that lets you know, the comment that we're in.
Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of sad, though. It's not It's not saying
foundational blacks, a DOS will vote for this candidate who has
their best interests at heart, but they're like, they're not
going to vote, they're not even gonna vote, or vote for some or
vote for the, for the rent to high guy or something like that.
But it's, it's not really voting for someone they want to stand
behind, but it's voting against the established pattern.
Right. And the problem that we had was this, when you tell me I
mean, when and I had this argument, slash discussion with
my dad, he tells me, You got to vote. You know, your grandfather
stood in line. And you know, he may give you the whole spiel,
it's not the new minimum lawsuit, but you got to vote.
Alright, dad, so I'm gonna listen to both can't do it. You
can't vote Republican. Right. So it's like, what choice I had. I
mean, like, I thought vote voting was a choice. So now you
don't get I don't have a choice. Right. So that's what this is
where we're starting to see people push back like, No, you
won't force me to make a choice. Treat me like you do everybody
else. You know, don't activate me. You know, try to entice me
with what you're going to offer me. You know, I mean, farmers
get it. Dairy, dairy farmers get it? LGBT gets it. A liberal
immigrants get it? They're all enticed by what they're gonna
get. What they tell us is what you heard throughout these
clips, here's your duty to save the Republic. You know, the
whole world's gonna end it's like, what what are you putting
this kind of pressure on me? Right? And without nothing to
give us back? No, no, no, that's not gonna work.
interest us.
But there is a interesting thing that's happening now. I'll
brought up the patriarchy. So what you have now is, and you
saw this with the at the essence Festival, which is historically
it's not on black on black Rand anymore. But the Essence
magazine is essence.
Oh, yeah, I love Camelot, the essence.
What you have now is, and this is a real problem that the
Democrats have, if they have any chance of winning, they either
had to have a black candidate for president or no less than a
female or black female candidate for vice president. It has to
happen. Because what they're trying to do now say, oh, okay,
the men. Yeah, they're with this whole patriarchy thing.
Yeah. So we so we start to separate black men and black
women.
Right. And the proof I have of that is the Democratic National
Committee chairman Tom Perez called black women, black women,
specifically, not black people, the black backbone of the
Democratic Party. And that was after Doug Jones defeated Roy
Moore and that special election they had down in Alabama. So now
you're starting to see there have a specific pandering, like,
oh, well, black woman, you can say it was, you know, even
though there's no, it's feeding into this ongoing gender war.
That's not just you know, that's across all races of color, we're
seeing that they're trying to spark up a gender war. So
they're going to feed into that, you know, insight and try to
make up that 767 percent number by activating their word, not
mine. Black women more.
So it's really in a sense that kind of way, it's back to man in
the house rule. That's exactly what it is. Because that works.
So well, we just need to do a new version of it.
Exactly. It's a dirty game. And I
think people are sitting around a table and actually talking
about this stuff like this. Yeah, I know what we can do.
Yeah, we'll get him.
Me personally, yes, I do believe that. For the same reason I
purchased. This is my personal belief that to destabilize the
black community as a whole. And I'm not a person that says that
white supremacy doesn't exist. It just doesn't exist in the way
we think it is. We think that all you know, these harmful
words is white. Now, there's a system that is focused on
keeping a group of people at the bottom, you have to have a
bottom. You have to have a bottom. So it's like, who fits
that role?
Right. Yeah, it's and I think there is a big difference
between racist policies, which clearly they're racist policies
and bigotry, which is really ignorance. I would say, I'm
ignorant about a lot of stuff. Certainly when it comes to black
people. The hell do I know? I'm learning. But it's, am I
bigoted? Sure. Am I racist? No. But they get it. Yeah, I have
all kinds of preconceived notions that you don't even
realize. Ah, oh, yeah.
Yeah. So So what drew me into listening to you and John show
is, so once you get out of the hole, focusing on one group of
people trying to hold the other group of people down. It's the
leet. Yeah, always is the lead, you know, it's like, you know,
we're gonna give this guy over here, steak, and this guy or her
nothing, and we'll let no fire over that steak. And they won't
ever come kill us for the rest of the cow. Site. What I mean,
that's, that's what we're dealing with. And I think when
people zoom out, when we have conversations like me, and you
have the magic of conversation, but when we have open dialogue,
and say, you know, we're suffering, just like the people
on the other side are suffering. But then the media punks is
like, oh, yeah, you know, there's coal miner in West
Virginia. You know, he's getting know a couple more dollars our
than this guy over here. It's like, but you guys are the one
cutting the check and making the wage. Why is he Why is he
getting that? You know? So it's, it's this weird dividing on
divide and conquer strategy, and we're starting to see it. Enter
the black community. I mean, we've seen it before. But we're
starting to see it, like I said, pointed out now it's all black
women. Right. Millennials against the boomers. I mean, you
have all these divides man is like, it's a weird place right
now. I can say you have the millennials against the boomers.
Yeah. Man against woman. Liberals against concert with
this. Is not political there. Is that as you I think you pointed
out, I'm not I don't want to, you know, attribute this to you.
But black people are selling the most conservative people. Yes.
On certain topics. Yep. And so when you start trying to bring
this new age, new way of thinking in, that's a national
divide. That's why I brought up with Marianne Williamson, that
she's going to have a stomach bug, even though she's speaking.
Excellent, excellent. Reparations is beside her
number. Um, when people started to dig into her and her whole
spirituality thing, that's not gonna, that's not gonna fly. I
mean, because, as you heard before, This little light of
mine, they know but people are, are a are spiritually based. And
not all, but if there's a good amount, and when you start
playing with that, it's not going to work. But like, like,
just to go back. This is this this weird divide, but it's
happening on a larger scale as well. And when I started
listening to you guys show, it's like, oh, it's not just us.
And I know, this may be a good day, a good point to stop Moe. I
want to pick this up in the next episode. And I think we should
talk about the elites, and the sorrows, sisters and all that
stuff. And this, this, this apparent strategy to divide
black men and women to get black vote, I think is is an
interesting place to pick that back up or whatever else happens
in the meantime.
Right. Sounds good.
All right. Moe. I think we should we should make a show out
of this.
I'm here for the for the ride for the ride. Right.
It's Moe Factz with Adam Curry, and we'll see you next time. I
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