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Adam Curry: Mofax for August 12,
2019 This is episode number

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three. It's mofax with Adam
curry. How you doing? Mo, I'm

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Moe Factz: doing great. How you
doing Adam?

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Adam Curry: I'm doing good, man.
It's weeks just seem to fly by.

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Moe Factz: I know I look forward
to Monday every Monday of every

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week,

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Adam Curry: the first Monday of
every week, like the second

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Thursday, something like that.
Yeah, right. I have a couple of

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up. First of all, apologies
about the the iTunes for the

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show being available on iTunes,
I submitted it the RSS feed. And

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really weird, somehow the
account is so old I haven't

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updated a podcast since, I think
since no agenda started 11 years

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ago, and so somehow it was
linked to a Dutch version of my

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Apple account. They got really
confused, so I have to resubmit

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that. It should be searchable in
the in the iTunes directory

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sometime this week. So that's on
me. Also,

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Moe Factz: you can find the RSV
RSS feed@mofax.com Yes, we it's

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been added to the web page, so
go check that out as well.

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Adam Curry: Definitely. And I
got some good responses on the

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last show. How about you?

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Moe Factz: I got good responses,
and then I also got some I was

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being a little hard on the
female, so I hope to bring some

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balance to the show on this
episode. Yo, what

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Adam Curry: did you do? What did
you do wrong?

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Moe Factz: Um, I just told what
told the truth, but I think they

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saw it as one sided. But I just
wanted to dedicate the majority

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of the show are just focusing on
how they're, um, how they're

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doing, uh, identity politics.
And with that, you have to focus

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on the groups that are

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Adam Curry: being targeted. Yes,
yes, yes, yes, indeed. This was

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the whole conversation about how
political parties are trying to

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split black American men and
women correct and really almost

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pit them against each other.
What the feedback I got is a lot

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of people who had no idea about
the man, about the house rules,

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the 68 welfare. A lot of people
were very they said, Wow, that

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was eye opening. They liked that
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Moe Factz: And I just think that
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reaction, thinking now it was
going to be one sided, but that

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was just the first show that we
went into identity politics. So

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yeah, on this show, we hope to
bring a little balance, all

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right, to show how the The elite
are targeting the black

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community on both sides of the
gender argument, and using the

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Boulet both male and female.
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Adam Curry: well, I'm ready.
Let's get the journey started.

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Moe Factz: All right, so I just
to finish off where we were

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headed last week, just showing
on the with Kamala Harris. And I

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like to say, first of all, me
and Kamala Harris have a will

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always be tied at the hip of
each other, because she kind of

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got me into this whole
podcasting, slash speaking out.

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Because, as you know, I started
out on the Star Report with star

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on his YouTube channel.
Everybody should go check that

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out. And one of the first call
in shows was the whole Jussie

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Smollett, um, case, ah, which

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Adam Curry: was, which was had
ties to a lot of Chicago elite,

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but also to Kamala Harris,
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Moe Factz: So that's how I got
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month ahead of time, I pointed
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whole alleged collect, let me
say that alleged connection with

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the whole anti lynching bill
that was time, understand, time

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just so perfect with his
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also a part of Right, correct.
So, and what struck me with that

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was, with her tweet, it came out
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are very measured when they put
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their support behind people. But
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and said, This looks like a
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hindsight, we know that that was
a poorly timed tweet, and I

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would like to the first clip
going into NBC panel MOX Kamala

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Harris for that tweet. All

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Unknown: right, new amid new
revelations in the case

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involving the alleged attack on
Empire actor Jesse Smollett.

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Democratic presidential
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away from their initial
statements on january 29 Senator

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Kamala Harris called the alleged
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modern day lynching. Here's what
she said about that tweet

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yesterday.

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Which tweet? What tweet about
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lynching that. Like, sorry.

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Okay, so I will say this about
that case. I think that the

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facts are still unfolding.

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Adam Curry: By the way, I just
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politician says I'll say this
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time, like, I got to put the
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Unknown: okay, so I will say
this about that case. I think

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that the facts are still
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concerned about obviously,

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can we just say it? Because
that's what we used to do on

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this show, okay, can we just say
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know. I just talked about first
instincts. Okay, she looked like

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she actually didn't know about
the tweet and no, and like she

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was looking around at a staff
member going, What the did? Why

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tweet that? I'm not making any
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box, okay. Can

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Moe Factz: we stop? Right there?
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Adam Curry: we stop? Sure, sure.

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Moe Factz: He says we're not
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the excuse that she didn't see
in the tweet. Oh, yeah.

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Adam Curry: Well, what he's
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staffer did the tweet, right?

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Moe Factz: Um, and that's why I
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into this whole segment of the
show that we're going to talk

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about how the media has been
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and protecting her. The title of
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MSNBC panel MOX Kamala. But as
you continue to listen, they

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defend Kamala by saying, oh, you
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you can continue with the clip
now, you

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Unknown: tweet that up. I'm not
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whatsoever. It's the buck stops
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I'm not gonna say tell going
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somebody and you and she did,
Mike, it looked like she didn't

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even know that. Tweet

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me, yeah, I

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got to say, though you're
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as well as you can do with a
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in a moment, the turn to get
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as a former Senate staffer. I
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under the bus here, because, you
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moments where the senator was
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staff. It's like,

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hey, really think these
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no, they have people tweeting
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you stop. Only tweet when you're
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work. Otherwise, you have people
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helpful, and something like that
will happen. And she did tweet

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that she is going to have to
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ownership for it, because we
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like with many other cases we
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country, where there are
allegations, that is what they

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are, accusations. We don't know
what happened. And this is a

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problem. Everyone thinks mob
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It's not going to work in the
elections, not going to work for

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Adam Curry: Just for background.
The name of her bill, the bill

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she had with Cory Booker was
justice for victims of lynching

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act, legislation that would
criminalize lynching for the

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first time in American history,
the motion was passed in the

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House. And that this article is
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was a pretty fresh bill. I don't
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that at that time. No,

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Moe Factz: it hadn't passed at
the time. And I think this, this

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just, I know we're going back a
little ways, but with this

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podcast, we haven't covered this
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um, with Jesse smully, for
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the the noose around his neck,
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lynching. And she, I don't know
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didn't know about this, but she
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look, see, this is a modern day
lynching. In her tweet that now

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the MSNBC has said that her
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written so it's like and like I
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this video says they're mocking
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they're defending her. And the
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as the jumping off point is
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seen the media protect her over
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this with the Tulsi Gabbard,

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Adam Curry: yes, the media
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with her messaging, which was,
oh, yeah, well, you work for

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Moe Factz: right? So let's go
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so, so let's talk

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Unknown: about the debates last
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a moment with Senator Kamala
Harris calling out her record as

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a prosecutor, I want to take a
listen to what you said.

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Senator Harris says she's proud
of her record as a prosecutor

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and that she'll be a prosecutor
president, but I'm deeply

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concerned about this record.
There are too many examples to

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cite, but she put over 1500
people in jail for marijuana

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violations, and then laughed
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she ever smoked marijuana. She
blocked evidence. She blocked

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evidence that would have freed
an innocent man from death row

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until the courts forced her to
do so. She kept people in prison

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beyond their sentences to use
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state of California, and she
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in place that impacts poor
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Congressman, did you get the
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I got no answers. But more
importantly, the American

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people, voters, got no answers.
Senator Harris said very clearly

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on the debate stage last night
that she's proud of her record,

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yet she failed to answer these
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these parts of her record,
where, when she was in a

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position of power and
responsibility, where she could

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have been a champion for the
people, instead, she was the

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exact opposite. She was
perpetuating the worst part of

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our criminal justice system that
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Black and Brown Brothers and
sisters, poor people in

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California. And I'm concerned
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that she'll bring to the White
House, because she's built her

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whole presidential campaign
around being a champion for

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minorities, being a champion for
the people. But once again, when

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you look at her record, and I'm
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30 years ago or 15 years ago.
We're talking about her record

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in the very last job she had
just a couple of years ago, as

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Attorney General in

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Adam Curry: California. My
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can't look at her record as her
record has been removed from the

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California District Attorney
website. Surprise,

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Moe Factz: surprise. You wonder
why? And to be honest with you,

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if we were able to look at the
record, it has just been poo

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pooed as, uh, she's just doing
her job. Yeah, she was just, she

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was it's her job to lock up
people, you understand, as, you

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know, as the top copper
California, uh, but you can't be

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pro police reform and have the
record that she does, and I

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would like to bring attention to
something else that she has in

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her closet, of many skeletons,
her first campaign she ran on

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she used a fire of it could have
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looking at as A gang member with
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has been very pro police, which,
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I mean, I have no issue with
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My issue with her is that she
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to be tough on her record, but
then say, Oh no, I wasn't really

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tough on my record. So what we
see here in this next clip of

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the post debate fact check is we
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spinning it to protect Kamala
Harris. KPIX five

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Unknown: political reporter
Melissa Caen has a look at the

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facts.

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Senator Harris says she's proud
of her record as a prosecutor

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and that she'll be a prosecutor
president, but I'm deeply

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concerned about this record.
Congresswoman

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Tulsi Gabbard did not hold back
at last night's debate taking

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aim at Senator Kamala Harris's
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General. But we wanted to know
were gabbard's claims true. She

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put

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over 1500 people in jail for
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laughed about it when she was
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marijuana.

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Did Harris put 1500 people in
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Well, as Attorney General, she
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prosecuted drug cases. That 1500
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Washington Free Beacon. They
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the Department of Corrections,
at least 1560 people were sent

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to state prisons for marijuana
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and 2016 that's when Harris was
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Harris laugh about her own
marijuana use? Well, here's a

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radio interview from February of
this year. Have

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you ever smoked?

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I have and I inhale. I didn't. I
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Gabbard also seemed to refer to
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Kevin Cooper. She blocked

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evidence that would have freed
an innocent man from death row

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until the courts forced her to
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is true that, as Attorney
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advanced DNA testing that could
free Cooper. He's on death row

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for murdering a family in 1983
Governor Gavin Newsom ordered a

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full DNA testing earlier this
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results yet, so we can't say
Cooper is an innocent man in

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2018 now, Senator Harris changed
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the DNA testing. Now, Tulsi
Gabbard also accused Kamala

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Harris of fighting to keep
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place, which is true, but since
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also introduced legislation to
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Look forward to September's
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Fewer people on stage,

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Adam Curry: more fun, wow. They
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That was good,

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Moe Factz: exactly a whole bunch
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well, she didn't try the cases
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everybody knows she went
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and try every one of those 1500
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the system, right? That that
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you see, even down, and that's
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even down to the local news.
They're they're protecting her,

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and I think this is coming from
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want her to be the candidate.

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Adam Curry: Now, how does, how
does that work? With is Joe

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Biden, then just there to as a
placeholder? I mean, he

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certainly seems like it, but is
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Moe Factz: I believe. So I
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is just my personal opinion. I
think they think that Joe will

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gap himself out. Eventually he's
going to drop the gap of all

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gasps, and he'll remove himself.
And he has, he has the same

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track record with her as far as
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concerned. Oh yeah, because he
helped write the non the 94

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crime bill,

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Adam Curry: yes, the super
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lot of other stuff that, right?

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Moe Factz: So he had the same
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can get it down to those two on
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Adam Curry: stage, yes, in the
final elimination round, right?

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Moe Factz: The problem is when
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coming in, lobbing, you know,
these attacks that she lobbed at

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her, these hit hard. So where I
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the big mistakes she made. Was
laughing about smoking weed, and

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where she did that was, was the
Breakfast Club, and you brought

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up Charlemagne TO GOD

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Adam Curry: YES on the last
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Moe Factz: think on episode one,
yeah. And I started digging,

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like, whenever you start this
with me, this is something you

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had to know about me. Whenever I
start like something gets in my

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brain, I have to get to the
bottom of it. So you asked me

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about Charlemagne to God, and he
isn't. He is in a very powerful,

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powerful position. And well,
let's figure out why the

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Breakfast Club is required. Stop
for presidential candidates,

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Unknown: the host admits they
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always have the same agenda.

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Do you feel like white
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differently than black
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Absolutely isn't in the
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that.

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How do you figure? I don't
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I can say that because I tell
you straight up, I'm not looking

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to elect any more white males,
especially for President. You

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know, I like somebody like mad
people when it comes to those

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old white guys, they're not even
going to be here to see the

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future. So why should they
dictate policies on the future?

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And I don't trust them. It's
hard. I think that white male

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entitlement and privilege has
been a super detriment to this

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country. So yes, when these old
white males come in this in this

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room, and you can see the
entitlement on them and you can

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see the privilege on them, yes,
I do feel a different way about

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that. And

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I would likely say I feel more
of a connection with women and

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with people of color when they
come up here, I'm looking

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for somebody that's gonna run
this country the right way. I

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don't care if you old, I don't
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a woman, I just want you to run
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Look. They've embraced the
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has embraced Breakfast Club.
Have they embraced the issues

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that the Breakfast Club
listeners have they

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embraced black issues? I think
that this is the first time

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we've heard this many candidates
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because many candidates talk
about reparations. I think for a

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long time, they have been
ignoring their most loyal fan

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base, which is black people. And
I think that a great question

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that is being asked is, you
know, why do we continue to vote

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Democrat? You know, just
because, wow,

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Adam Curry: there's a lot that's
loaded with stuff there. First

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of all, as a an older, white
male fuck you. All right, so I

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got it, not wanted. I'm not as
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Moe Factz: as Joe. I think they
answered your question about

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Joe. Biden,

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Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, that
totally answers it. And I even

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heard, look, I didn't even mind
that the person's old, person of

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color, a woman, anything but
white. That excludes, excludes

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Joe, because he's the combo is
bad. But, yeah, I've only heard

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Charlemagne talk about, you
know, actually, only about

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Kamala Harris, and then kind of,
it's interesting that he says,

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or if there's. His co host. Oh,
yeah. Well, this is, you know,

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the we need candidates are
talking about Black Agenda.

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Well, really, Kamala Harris
isn't really talking about a

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Black Agenda. She's not really
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Moe Factz: And I had a clip
slip. And if anybody wants to

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create a jingle for that, I had
a clip slip because she was

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interviewed by thegrio, and it's
a very important clip. Now I'll

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bring it or either link it
somewhere, but she was asked,

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are you gonna do anything
specifically for black people?

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And she said, No,

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Adam Curry: wait, she was asked
on the Breakfast Club

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Moe Factz: no on the griot
interviewed her post nomination,

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announced her nomination, what
she and what she was she was she

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doing things specifically for
black people? She said no, and I

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got, I hate I don't have that
clip. I'll

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Adam Curry: take your word for
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Moe Factz: What pisses me off is
Charlamagne knows this. He

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didn't ask her anything about
reparations. He didn't ask her

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anything about a Black Agenda,
and then he lets her come on his

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show and float this BS bio of
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Unknown: Now for those who may
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about yourself. You're from the
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I was born in Oakland, okay? And
I went to Howard. I went out of

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Howard to law school in
California. I started my career

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in the DAs office in Oakland,
California, and then I was

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elected, the first black woman
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attorney in the state of
California, San Francisco. I was

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there for two terms, and then I
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California, making me the first
woman and the first African

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American ever elected as an
attorney general. She Jamaican

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too. Yeah, man.

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Adam Curry: I gotta throw the
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guess,

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Moe Factz: right. And she used
first black, first African

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American, and for the untrained
ear, all right, let me give you

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some. This is where I come in
with the inside baseball. The

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way she shaped her bio on this
show was so disingenuous,

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because she said, I was born in
Oakland. Oakland being

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predominantly black, it has a
lot of historical black

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importance. You know, have the
Black Panthers. That was sure,

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Laura, I mean, huge in that
community. And even he asked her

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about being affiliate with the
Black Panthers. It wasn't really

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clippable, because it was a lot
of over talking. But she was

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like, Oh yeah, they inspired me.
I'm like, whoa. Hold on. You're

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the top cop and the Black
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Adam Curry: well. But mo at this
was also the interview where she

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said, Oh yeah, no, I would smoke
weed while listening to to

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Tupac, who hadn't even, hadn't
even released his album when she

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was so apparently, smoking weed,
right?

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Moe Factz: And they even the
whole breakfast club came out

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with a an excuse, saying, Well,
I asked her one question, and

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she said yes to another question
that Charlamagne was asking her

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some, some BS. But back to the
inside baseball, the way she

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shaped this was, I was born in
Oakland, then I went off to

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Howard. Howard University, for
those not knowing, is the HBCU.

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It has a very

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Adam Curry: historically black,
black college university,

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Moe Factz: yes, historically
black college university. It has

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a very rich history. But the way
she shaped that is she lived in

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this is what was, what would be
heard when she said that I lived

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in Oakland all my life. That's
not true. I'm we know this, but

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until the untrained ear, or if
you if the way she framed it or

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shaped it, I lived in Oakland
all my life, until I went to

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Howard, and then I came back to
Oakland to fight for civil

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rights. Yeah? Well, that's,
it's, yeah, that's,

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Adam Curry: I guess that's kind
of true. All my life, I was just

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living somewhere else for a
while, wasn't it?

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Moe Factz: She right, Adam, what
is not true about that

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statement? If I, as a black
person, was to take that as she

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stated it. What would be the
problem with that statement?

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Adam Curry: What with the I
lived there all my life, but

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then I came with that file? Yes,
when she came out, where did you

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come back from? Where you were
all your life in Oakland, right?

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Moe Factz: First of all, she
didn't live in Oakland all her

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life, as she tried to make it
seem she lived in Canada for,

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I'm saying, for a major chunk of
her life. Yeah. Second of all,

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she lived with her mother only,
who was Indian, so she wasn't

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bathed in the blackness. And
honestly, I think the Howard was

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a very, this is just me being
cynical was a very. Calculated

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move by her if she had political
aspirations to say, you know, I

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checked out, check this off of
my black card, right? So that's,

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that's where we're at with that
so. But with Charlemagne, he has

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not being, uh, he's been open,
openly supportive of Kamala

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Harris, and the fact that he
would vote for her, as you see

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in this next clip, if

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Unknown: I had to vote for
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would definitely be Kamala
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be Kamala Harris is because I
was liking Kamala before she

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even announced, you know, she
was running for president. She

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was on breakfast club last year.
And you know, I had been

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following her for the past two
or three years, and you know,

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like, I just was intrigued by
Kamala Harris for some reason.

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Like, I know people question her
record as a prosecutor, but it

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was a lot of the things that she
was doing in that space that I

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thought was very progressive,
like the Back on Track program,

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and, you know, making her
officers wear body cameras, like

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stuff like that, had me engaged.
Like, wow, who is this? Kamala

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Harris. And, of course, she's a
black woman, you know. So I was

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definitely intrigued by that.
That's just natural, like,

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right? That could be my, my
sister, that could be my, you

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know, aunt that could be my, you
know, one of your daughters, my

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daughters. You know me, my
friend. Like, of course, black

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women. So it's like, I'm
intrigued by that. I was, I was

443
00:26:16,620 --> 00:26:18,720
like, Yo, she could be
president. I always thought that

444
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,960
if you go back and watch our
first interview, I told her,

445
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,500
like, Yo if you run, you know,
we'll support you. Now I just

446
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:28,760
had to have some questions about
her record as a prosecutor. But

447
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:32,360
she's a prosecutor. Prosecutors
do, yeah,

448
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:36,020
Adam Curry: I'd have to say that
when he says, you know, I'm as

449
00:26:36,020 --> 00:26:39,680
much a black woman as Kamala
Harris is, in the way, he's

450
00:26:40,220 --> 00:26:41,860
funny, like, No,

451
00:26:42,460 --> 00:26:45,940
Moe Factz: this is this slippery
slope of what is black?

452
00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:50,620
Blackness? Yes, right. And this
is why the term ADOS has been so

453
00:26:50,620 --> 00:26:55,060
powerful, because now you can't
just use this blanket term of

454
00:26:55,060 --> 00:27:01,080
black, you know, and cloak
yourself in it. And he said a

455
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,340
lot in that statement. He said
that I would, I would have

456
00:27:05,340 --> 00:27:09,720
questioned her her record. Why
didn't you you had her on your

457
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,920
show twice, and you never
questioned her record, and then

458
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,260
you going to say, well, she did
some good things too, but as

459
00:27:16,260 --> 00:27:22,940
Tulsi Gabbard says, she did
these things up until her last

460
00:27:22,940 --> 00:27:23,420
job.

461
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,500
Adam Curry: I may be jumping
ahead, but what you're clearly

462
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,400
laying out before us here, Mo is
that Charlamagne the god is

463
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,160
compromised in some way.
Charlamagne

464
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,240
Moe Factz: the guy is very
compromised. Let's go to this is

465
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,080
him defending her post the Tulsi
Gabbard situation

466
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,200
Unknown: out front now,
Charlemagne, the God, and I know

467
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,080
we played that moment before it
was it was an important moment.

468
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,780
You talked about how genuine she
seemed, and now, obviously you

469
00:27:49,780 --> 00:27:52,060
know you were talking about
legalizing marijuana. During

470
00:27:52,060 --> 00:27:54,940
that exchange, Congresswoman
Gabbard has come out and put

471
00:27:54,940 --> 00:27:57,220
forth, oh, well, you know these,
these, these people that she put

472
00:27:57,220 --> 00:27:59,800
behind bars for marijuana. What
did you make of that moment?

473
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,100
Debate

474
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,360
last I didn't think it was a
genuine moment, simply because

475
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,660
if you want to attack, you know,
Senator Harris for, I guess, you

476
00:28:06,660 --> 00:28:09,720
know, contributing to putting
people in jail for drugs, then

477
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,000
why wouldn't you attack Joe
Biden too, if you are, if

478
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,360
you're, you know, purpose was to
combat somebody for the war on

479
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:18,300
drugs. I mean, the author of the
94 crime bill in 88 crack laws

480
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,700
was sitting right there in front
of you. So I just thought it was

481
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:23,540
kind of low hanging fruit to go
after Senator Harris for that.

482
00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:26,060
But yo, nobody. Everybody should
be questioned on their record.

483
00:28:26,060 --> 00:28:26,780
Yeah, yeah, sure.

484
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,440
Adam Curry: Wow. Not only, not
only shilling for Camela, but

485
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,020
torpedoing Joe, exactly.

486
00:28:33,020 --> 00:28:35,240
Moe Factz: And everybody should
be questioned on her record, on

487
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,500
their record, except Kamala,

488
00:28:36,620 --> 00:28:38,780
Adam Curry: yeah, except when
she's on my show. We don't have

489
00:28:38,780 --> 00:28:40,540
to do that weed,

490
00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:44,020
Moe Factz: and that's what the
Breakfast Club is supposed to be

491
00:28:44,020 --> 00:28:45,820
about, asking tough questions.
But

492
00:28:45,820 --> 00:28:51,220
Adam Curry: mo how twisted is it
that? And I'm sure you're going

493
00:28:51,220 --> 00:28:54,460
to show us how Charlemagne is
compromised, that the guy who

494
00:28:54,460 --> 00:28:58,540
was actually there to push her,
defend against others, discredit

495
00:28:58,540 --> 00:29:03,180
Joe Biden is the one who messed
it up and had this haha funny

496
00:29:03,180 --> 00:29:06,300
moment about the weed, which is
now being used as the main bomb

497
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:08,160
against her, right? That,

498
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:15,000
Moe Factz: I think that's karma.
I think that's just, I mean you,

499
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:17,940
when you don't take things
seriously and all your light,

500
00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:21,380
you know, and loose, those kind
of dumb questions. Come out and

501
00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:25,760
ask themselves, yeah. And her
laughing about it, that was bad,

502
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,300
yeah. So let's listen to him
defend her a little bit more.

503
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:29,420
You

504
00:29:29,420 --> 00:29:31,760
Unknown: know her, you know Joe
Biden on that stage, wore the

505
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,880
big gun. So everybody was, you
know, coming up, coming up

506
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,660
against them, I mean, and you
know Gabbard, I can't even

507
00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:41,320
pronounce her name, does it?
Gabbard? She's at 0%

508
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:44,320
so you like the swagger? You
like that. I

509
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,800
Adam Curry: don't mean 0% is a
talking point that Kamala Harris

510
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,120
raised herself right after the
that debate. You like that. I

511
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,580
Unknown: don't mean modest,
yeah, it's the truth. Even

512
00:29:54,580 --> 00:29:56,680
though she should have had that
swagger on the stage last night,

513
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,600
because she did it. She was
terrible on the stage

514
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,920
last night. Okay, all right. It.

515
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,700
Is she still your favorite? Or
yeah, she's

516
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,220
still my favorite, simply
because our current president is

517
00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:07,920
a criminal. And who better to go
up against a criminal than a

518
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,740
prosecutor? Prosecutor, that

519
00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:12,960
Adam Curry: is the campaign
talking point. Wow, yeah,

520
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,880
Charlemagne read in perfectly.

521
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:18,720
Moe Factz: He has it all, and as
I call him now, his new name is

522
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:25,520
Charlemagne the guard. That's
what he does. He is, I'm gonna

523
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,360
say this. I honestly, honestly
believe that Charlemagne, to

524
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,960
God, is her protect her, her
attack guard, and he's gonna

525
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,320
protect her with everything. And
that makes me believe that

526
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,980
Charlemagne is part of the
Boulet, aka, for those who don't

527
00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:43,900
know, B, O, U, L, E, Boulay,
which is nothing but the Black

528
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:47,380
Skull and Bones. That's not my
statement. That's the author of

529
00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:51,580
the book that wrote the book on
Boulet. That's what they like to

530
00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:56,140
turn themselves as, which we all
know, or most of us know, is

531
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,780
Skull and Bones is one of the
groups LinkedIn with the

532
00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:03,180
Illuminati. And I don't really
like using that term because

533
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,260
it's been so over, trivialized,
overused, trivialized and

534
00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:10,320
watered down. But let's just
hear Charman talk about the

535
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,000
Illuminati. Hip

536
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,120
Unknown: Hop's obsession with
the Illuminati is the fact that

537
00:31:15,180 --> 00:31:19,260
they can't figure out how to say
when their own people are

538
00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:22,160
successful. Black people in
general, a black man in America

539
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,820
can't just be successful without
you know, and this is amongst

540
00:31:25,820 --> 00:31:28,880
other black people. Other black
people will say, Oh, he must be

541
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,020
an Illuminati. Oh, he sold his
soul. Oh, he must be gay. You

542
00:31:33,020 --> 00:31:37,460
can't just be talented. You just
can't work your ass off. You

543
00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:41,860
can't just be smart. It has to
be something else connected to

544
00:31:41,860 --> 00:31:44,380
your success, because people
want to try to justify their own

545
00:31:44,380 --> 00:31:45,100
failures.

546
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,400
Adam Curry: Now, that's not just
with with the Boulet. That's

547
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,520
with all entertainment. All
entertainment is that way you've

548
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,440
got to walk the ladder.

549
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,580
Moe Factz: So, so this is where
you come in. You're the expert

550
00:31:57,580 --> 00:32:00,520
on this topic. I don't want to
get understand too sidetracked,

551
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,040
but is being in that industry
totally off of talent? I mean,

552
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,400
you, you've been at the height
of heights in the entertainment

553
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:08,880
industry?

554
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,920
Adam Curry: Well, let me answer
that no, yes, because I have not

555
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,440
been at the height of heights
because I never played the game.

556
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,260
I just wanted to do my job. I
never went to parties, actually,

557
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:23,660
eight years MTV, no one ever
offered me drugs. Well, we but

558
00:32:23,660 --> 00:32:30,380
nothing other than that. I never
played with anything. And did I

559
00:32:30,380 --> 00:32:34,100
get invited? Was I asked to go
places? Yeah, but I just never

560
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:38,840
did it. So I never got any
further than VJ, which, believe

561
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,580
me, is pretty much before we had
podcasting, the lowest rung on

562
00:32:42,580 --> 00:32:46,480
the show business ladder. So
okay, but yes, I've seen many

563
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:53,140
people ascend, and I've and I've
always seen the company they

564
00:32:53,140 --> 00:32:56,500
keep, and understand pretty well
how it works. It's never been

565
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:56,920
for me,

566
00:32:57,940 --> 00:33:01,260
Moe Factz: right? So as you say
on No, I want to know a gender

567
00:33:01,260 --> 00:33:04,500
podcast, um, the truth always,

568
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,920
Adam Curry: always wants to come
out. Yep, it does, right?

569
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,420
Moe Factz: So let's listen to
part two.

570
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,620
Unknown: Nobody Black would be
in the Illuminati. We just not

571
00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:18,480
in a class, sorry, unless they
use us for influence, which I

572
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,260
could see, you know, I could see
them using us for influence, to

573
00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:26,660
influence. You know, do you put
certain images and things in our

574
00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:32,120
mind? I can see that. But other
than that, no. And once again,

575
00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:36,500
there is no. There is not. If it
is, it's the most it's the most

576
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:40,540
terrible kept secret ever. If
it's, if it's a secret society,

577
00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:43,420
Adam Curry: oh, well, yes. And
the images we put into the music

578
00:33:43,420 --> 00:33:45,220
videos is exactly what was done,

579
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,320
Moe Factz: and the way he shapes
the political narrative on his

580
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,420
show every day. He just, he
said, he just went there. He

581
00:33:55,420 --> 00:33:58,060
just clearly stated what he's
doing now, yeah,

582
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,200
Adam Curry: literally what he's
doing. Yes, you're right.

583
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,920
Moe Factz: I can see using them
for influence. Yeah, I could see

584
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,940
that. Now let me ask, let

585
00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:08,700
Adam Curry: me ask you a
question. The Boulet, you say

586
00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:13,680
it's Skull and Bones. Skull and
Bones, was Yale? And I believe

587
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,500
Kamala went to Yale, did she
not? I'm

588
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:20,720
Moe Factz: not sure she I'm not
sure that I thought she went for

589
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:24,740
Howard. I think some school in
California. I think us, USC. I

590
00:34:24,740 --> 00:34:26,060
believe, if I'm not mistaken,

591
00:34:26,059 --> 00:34:28,279
Adam Curry: I thought she meant
was a law degree.

592
00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:30,740
Moe Factz: I think that was
Obama you're thinking about. And

593
00:34:30,740 --> 00:34:32,000
he was, he was

594
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:36,079
Adam Curry: yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes. Okay, all right,

595
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,379
Moe Factz: all right. So let's
listen to part three. I got

596
00:34:41,899 --> 00:34:44,859
Unknown: you and you, and you
notice the last thing I say when

597
00:34:44,859 --> 00:34:47,259
you look up the word Illuminati,
though, all it means is the

598
00:34:47,259 --> 00:34:51,579
enlightened ones. That's all the
definition of Illuminati means.

599
00:34:51,579 --> 00:34:54,519
It means the enlightened people
of our society. So these are the

600
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:56,919
people that are enlightened.
What's wrong with being

601
00:34:56,919 --> 00:34:59,919
enlightened? You know what I'm
saying? Like, what's wrong?

602
00:34:59,999 --> 00:35:01,919
Wrong with having knowledge,
having wisdom, having

603
00:35:01,919 --> 00:35:04,439
understanding, what's wrong with
just being an enlightened

604
00:35:04,439 --> 00:35:06,959
audience? That's what it is, the
enlightened people. Yes, I want

605
00:35:06,959 --> 00:35:09,479
to be one of the enlightened
people. That's what I read books

606
00:35:09,479 --> 00:35:13,019
for. To try to be one of the
highly enlightened people of my

607
00:35:13,019 --> 00:35:15,779
society. Like, yes, every day I
strive for knowledge. I want to

608
00:35:15,779 --> 00:35:18,539
be a better person. Like, what's
wrong with being enlightened?

609
00:35:18,539 --> 00:35:20,779
Like, so.

610
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,140
So basically, on the record,
Charlemagne is saying that he

611
00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:25,760
wants to be in the in the
Illuminati,

612
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,180
if there was an Illuminati, and
it is of the enlightened people,

613
00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:32,120
why wouldn't I be? Why wouldn't
I want to be? Why wouldn't I?

614
00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:35,180
Why wouldn't I want to be with
all the knowledge is that, why

615
00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:38,060
wouldn't I want to know the
world's secrets? Why wouldn't I?

616
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:39,680
Why wouldn't I?

617
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:43,719
Adam Curry: Well, just do your
best son, and you'll be leveled

618
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,299
up to the appropriate knowledge.
He's,

619
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:49,660
Moe Factz: he's, I think that
was his application, yeah,

620
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,880
submitting his application. Hey,
influence, yeah. Influence,

621
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,420
young minds, I got this huge
platform if you need me, you

622
00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:03,960
know, use me. And so he had,
what was the farmer, bro, I

623
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,040
can't pronounce his name,

624
00:36:06,179 --> 00:36:09,239
Adam Curry: the squirrelly
Martin scorrilly, right?

625
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,639
Moe Factz: He was on the
Breakfast Club, and I want you

626
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:15,239
to listen to his inner exchange
they had between him and

627
00:36:15,539 --> 00:36:16,559
Charlemagne. That's

628
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:18,779
Unknown: a separate subject. I
was at a I was at Bridget

629
00:36:18,779 --> 00:36:21,739
capital yesterday, which is a
great hedge fund. I didn't see

630
00:36:21,739 --> 00:36:25,039
nobody in there with mask on. A
bunch of goons talking crazy to

631
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:26,479
what you was talking. Bridger,
yeah, I

632
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,860
wonder what you didn't there
anyway,

633
00:36:30,739 --> 00:36:31,939
really, yes, I

634
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:34,400
was, sir. I know people too.
Yeah.

635
00:36:35,539 --> 00:36:36,799
Okay, that's,

636
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,660
that's some Illuminati, right
there.

637
00:36:38,659 --> 00:36:42,519
Don't worry about me. Okay, that
just

638
00:36:43,539 --> 00:36:46,359
you totally changed every like
my blew up. My brain

639
00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:49,720
actually good.

640
00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:50,920
Um,

641
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:51,760
I gotta sit.

642
00:36:53,139 --> 00:36:54,159
Gotta take a different

643
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:56,979
Adam Curry: attitude. I should
be listening to the Charlamagne

644
00:36:56,979 --> 00:36:59,859
show this. This is on the air.

645
00:37:00,220 --> 00:37:05,100
Moe Factz: Yes, this is on the
air. Uh, so Bridger capital. Is

646
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:07,980
it like some huge, I mean, maybe
you know more than I do. I

647
00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:11,880
couldn't find much about him,
but it's this huge, uh, hedge

648
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:17,760
fund, hedge fund. And when he
said he was there, the the

649
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,200
farmer, bro, um, this one,
McCall, and um, was like, what

650
00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:25,520
really like? What the hell are
you doing there? Well, you know,

651
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,180
so yeah,

652
00:37:26,419 --> 00:37:28,759
Adam Curry: he's been involved
in a lot of weird stuff, so it

653
00:37:28,759 --> 00:37:32,419
wouldn't be out of character for
him to be with other weird

654
00:37:32,419 --> 00:37:32,899
people,

655
00:37:34,099 --> 00:37:36,679
Moe Factz: right? So I'm just
saying the fact that that was

656
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:40,179
unprompted, that he even
associated him with the

657
00:37:40,179 --> 00:37:44,919
Illuminati, quote, unquote,
Illuminati. But as Charlotte

658
00:37:44,979 --> 00:37:46,059
said, the enlightened,

659
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:47,859
Adam Curry: what did he say
about it? I couldn't quite hear

660
00:37:47,859 --> 00:37:49,359
it. He said something about $2
million

661
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:53,079
Moe Factz: Oh, so, okay, a
little background in this. He

662
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:56,319
brought him on the show because
the the former bro, how you say

663
00:37:56,319 --> 00:38:02,099
his name again? Shkreli.
Shkreli, okay, really bought

664
00:38:02,099 --> 00:38:05,339
this Wu Tang album. There was
only one copy of all right? $2

665
00:38:05,399 --> 00:38:10,739
million right? And so he was
perceived as being disrespectful

666
00:38:10,739 --> 00:38:13,499
to one of a few of the members
of Wu Tang, and that's why

667
00:38:13,499 --> 00:38:16,079
Charlemagne had him on. And
right from the beginning,

668
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:20,039
Charlemagne laid into him. And
this is Charlemagne style, so

669
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:25,099
the contrast of how he's
handling Kamala to how he use

670
00:38:25,099 --> 00:38:28,339
usually handles guests. I mean,
usually he's like, up front,

671
00:38:28,339 --> 00:38:31,639
like, right on it, yeah, cutting
people down, sure, sure, right,

672
00:38:31,819 --> 00:38:35,659
so. And then the exchange
happened that he said, Oh yeah,

673
00:38:35,659 --> 00:38:38,539
I was over at Bridger capital,
and the dude was like, You

674
00:38:38,539 --> 00:38:42,279
should have seen his face. Like,
big. And it was like, what,

675
00:38:43,779 --> 00:38:46,119
that's what you doing over
there, and he's like some

676
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:50,799
Illuminati crap right there, you
know. So all that to say, you

677
00:38:50,799 --> 00:38:56,139
remember that white privilege?
Yes, what did Charmaine called

678
00:38:56,139 --> 00:39:01,319
the old white man privilege?
Yes. Charlemagne has been the

679
00:39:01,319 --> 00:39:05,699
recipient of this old white man
privileged. The reason why I say

680
00:39:05,699 --> 00:39:11,579
that is and this climate of me
too, he has his own allegations,

681
00:39:11,579 --> 00:39:13,019
as you'll see in this next clip,

682
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,539
Unknown: Charlemagne the gods,
rape allegations resurface, and

683
00:39:18,539 --> 00:39:25,219
we have an exclusive interview
with his alleged victim. Hey

684
00:39:25,219 --> 00:39:27,919
guys, it's Ali for Hollywood
Life and Charlemagne the gods

685
00:39:27,919 --> 00:39:32,839
rape accuser Jessica Reid wants
the case reopen 17 years after

686
00:39:32,839 --> 00:39:36,319
he was arrested for allegedly
having sex with her when she was

687
00:39:36,319 --> 00:39:40,299
just 15 years old. Here are the
details. Charlemagne was charged

688
00:39:40,299 --> 00:39:43,539
for sexual misconduct, and he
ended up pleading guilty to a

689
00:39:43,539 --> 00:39:47,379
lesser charge at the time. Well,
the victim, Jessica read, tells

690
00:39:47,379 --> 00:39:50,439
us how this all allegedly
happened, revealing she met

691
00:39:50,439 --> 00:39:54,339
Charlamagne, who was in his 20s
at the time, in 2001 through a

692
00:39:54,339 --> 00:39:58,059
mutual friend and a DJ. A few
days later, Charlemagne called

693
00:39:58,059 --> 00:40:01,019
her and expressed his interest
in her. But she told him she

694
00:40:01,019 --> 00:40:03,959
wasn't interested, and they
agreed to just be friends,

695
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,839
according to Jessica,
Charlemagne invited her to his

696
00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:09,839
cousin's birthday party,
apparently playing it off as his

697
00:40:09,899 --> 00:40:13,499
own to convince Jessica to pass
by. Charlemagne reportedly

698
00:40:13,499 --> 00:40:16,499
picked her up and a friend and
drove them to a party filled

699
00:40:16,499 --> 00:40:19,799
with guys and only two other
women. Jessica alleges that at

700
00:40:19,799 --> 00:40:22,699
the party, Charlemagne spiked
her drink with something, and

701
00:40:22,699 --> 00:40:25,759
she ended up passing out in the
bathroom while she was unable to

702
00:40:25,759 --> 00:40:28,939
move after she fell down,
Jessica says she could see and

703
00:40:28,939 --> 00:40:32,599
hear Charlemagne and his friends
laughing at her. She claims that

704
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:35,719
Charlemagne friends took her
upstairs where they allegedly

705
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,499
violated her. Then she alleged
Charlemagne later came in the

706
00:40:39,499 --> 00:40:42,699
room, took his clothes off, got
in bed with her, took her

707
00:40:42,699 --> 00:40:45,399
clothes off, and proceeded to
have sex with her. Jessica and

708
00:40:45,399 --> 00:40:47,859
her friend got help from a
stranger, and she eventually

709
00:40:47,859 --> 00:40:50,739
went to the hospital. Jessica
tells us she felt betrayed by

710
00:40:50,739 --> 00:40:53,499
Charlemagne and was encouraged
to speak out after seeing him

711
00:40:53,499 --> 00:40:56,379
trying to discredit the
situation. When he was speaking

712
00:40:56,379 --> 00:40:59,919
to DJ academics as of this
recording, Charlemagne reps

713
00:40:59,919 --> 00:41:02,639
responded back to us with a
statement from his attorney,

714
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:05,999
Michael Weinstein of lavley
singer, Charlemagne was accused

715
00:41:05,999 --> 00:41:09,059
of a sexual assault. He never
had sexual relations or any

716
00:41:09,059 --> 00:41:12,359
physical contact with the
accuser, and even provided DNA

717
00:41:12,359 --> 00:41:14,939
to prove it. At the time of
these claims, Charlemagne

718
00:41:14,939 --> 00:41:17,399
cooperated fully with
authorities, and after the

719
00:41:17,399 --> 00:41:19,799
investigation this charge
against him was dropped,

720
00:41:19,799 --> 00:41:22,459
Charlemagne has spoken about
this many times over the years

721
00:41:22,459 --> 00:41:25,279
in public, including in his
book. While Charlemagne has

722
00:41:25,279 --> 00:41:27,919
empathy for all sexual assault
victims, he cannot take

723
00:41:27,919 --> 00:41:31,099
responsibility for a crime he
did not commit. But all right,

724
00:41:31,099 --> 00:41:33,679
as the story continues to
develop, you guys can click

725
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,079
right up here to get all the
latest updates.

726
00:41:36,979 --> 00:41:42,039
Moe Factz: Okay, Adam, had you?
Had you heard of that story

727
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:44,439
before you heard it here? And

728
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:48,700
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
It's a 17 year old story. I

729
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:50,560
don't I don't remember this at
all,

730
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:54,159
Moe Factz: but it spiked back
up, doing the whole me too

731
00:41:54,159 --> 00:42:00,599
thing, right? But it got no
traction at all. And so they got

732
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:01,979
me to wondering, hmm,

733
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:05,280
Adam Curry: and you'd think that
you know a guy with 8 million

734
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,920
listeners to his morning radio
show, this would be an

735
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,720
interesting target to take down.

736
00:42:10,439 --> 00:42:14,399
Moe Factz: Very interesting,
especially that he's been, he's

737
00:42:14,399 --> 00:42:22,339
been very politically incorrect.
He's not. You're saying he He's,

738
00:42:22,399 --> 00:42:26,839
um, he has stories about, uh,
him using Spanish Fly. I mean,

739
00:42:26,839 --> 00:42:29,599
this is not the only thing that
you're saying. He said out of

740
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:33,199
the way. So, like you said, he
seems like a very big target to

741
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:35,659
take down, but nothing

742
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:39,319
Adam Curry: so that he's got
some bulletproofness to him.

743
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,700
Moe Factz: Why? And the question
is, why, when you see certain

744
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:47,740
people not being going, being
taken down, why? And my personal

745
00:42:47,740 --> 00:42:53,500
opinion, I think he has a job to
do. He the way he carries

746
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:59,140
himself, he's seen as a quote,
unquote, real guy. You know, he

747
00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:05,220
was on the show Guy Code on MTV,
yeah. So he has this. He's not

748
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:11,940
one of these, like he wouldn't
be seen as a panderer. So if his

749
00:43:11,940 --> 00:43:15,480
support for Kamala, if he, if he
supports Kamala, is seen as

750
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,240
coming from real black men. Got
it going back to what we talked

751
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:23,420
about before in the previous
shows, where are Democrats

752
00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:27,680
hurting it with their numbers
black male voters and black

753
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,100
voters overall? So he's a very
valuable piece.

754
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:34,519
Adam Curry: Yes, he's an asset
that is meant to keep the black

755
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:39,619
men in line with the messaging
right and to promote, in this

756
00:43:39,619 --> 00:43:44,379
case, the right quote, unquote,
black woman for them to lean

757
00:43:44,379 --> 00:43:44,859
towards,

758
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,800
Moe Factz: right? And then he
could attack Joe as well,

759
00:43:48,340 --> 00:43:51,460
because it's not seen as like
some kind of feminist movement,

760
00:43:51,460 --> 00:43:52,060
you know, attack,

761
00:43:52,779 --> 00:43:54,879
Adam Curry: quite honestly,
anyone could attack Joe with

762
00:43:54,879 --> 00:43:58,239
both hands behind their back.
There's so much to attack,

763
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:02,399
Moe Factz: right? So in
investigating Charlemagne, to

764
00:44:02,399 --> 00:44:07,499
God, I came across the guard,
I'm saying I came across some

765
00:44:07,979 --> 00:44:12,419
interesting panel. And you were
talking about last week about

766
00:44:12,419 --> 00:44:17,339
these think tanks. Yes. So on
this panel was Charlemagne, the

767
00:44:17,339 --> 00:44:24,979
guard Porter from four magazine
whose name is Zach O'Malley

768
00:44:24,979 --> 00:44:39,559
Greenberg. It was ti rapper ti
tip Harris and David groves.

769
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:43,899
Adam Curry: So I know that name.
I knew you would recognize

770
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,620
Moe Factz: that. Yes, I

771
00:44:44,620 --> 00:44:45,400
Adam Curry: do. I do.

772
00:44:46,539 --> 00:44:49,239
Moe Factz: Would you like to
explain to us how you recognize

773
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,019
that name? Adam?

774
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:56,740
Adam Curry: Yes, I have a weird
habit of when someone is lauded

775
00:44:56,740 --> 00:45:01,380
by any group, certainly if they
die. I always look into what

776
00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:04,980
they were doing, and there's
been this, it's kind of weird.

777
00:45:04,980 --> 00:45:08,940
But I, you know, I I've been
hearing stories about, oh, this,

778
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:11,940
this rapper, this hip hopper,
etc, and then I go look at the

779
00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:15,240
lyrics and like, what are you
defending this guy for? And

780
00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:18,300
that's how it initially started
when, when Nipsey Hussle died, I

781
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:22,040
knew nothing about Nipsey
Hussle. I knew one little thing

782
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,200
about him, and that was because
he was involved in a

783
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,620
cryptocurrency initial coin
offering in Amsterdam around the

784
00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:34,520
same time I was involved in the
crypto community in Amsterdam.

785
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,300
So I knew that he was in and
these things are basically kind

786
00:45:38,300 --> 00:45:41,920
of scamish where, you know, you
get, you get, and, you know,

787
00:45:41,980 --> 00:45:45,220
we've had Snoop with some crypto
stuff, and it was, you know,

788
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,000
it's that market is kind of dead
now. But the idea is, you get

789
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,540
someone of some fame to endorse
it. You release your crypto

790
00:45:52,540 --> 00:45:56,560
coin. People see the the
celebrity. They buy the coin.

791
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,040
Everybody is already in the
coin. So it starts to go up.

792
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,060
Then everybody massively sells
it, dumps out. And then, you

793
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:06,960
know, they've made their money.
I don't know if I don't think

794
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,360
their coin actually ever
launched, but that's how I knew

795
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,240
Nipsey Hussle. And as I started
looking into it, I'm like, this

796
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:16,440
is, why are we? Why is everyone
celebrating this guy? What they

797
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,840
had to hold? What was the venue
in LA they Staples Center,

798
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,900
Staple Center. Like, holy crap.
So I started looking into the

799
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:27,740
guy. And then I see, you know,
all these claims, because when

800
00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:31,460
people make blanket claims, I
listen to it, well, you know,

801
00:46:31,460 --> 00:46:34,400
he's really doing stuff for his
community. And I start looking

802
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,520
into it. And I'm like, doing
stuff for his community. It

803
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,900
seems like he was actually
working with a bunch of, well,

804
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:43,960
with this girl, Guy and these
big real estate developers, and

805
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,200
they were taken over stuff. And
when I saw that, they intended

806
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,600
to buy the strip mall where,
where his his shop is, where he

807
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,920
was gunned down, it wasn't to
build affordable housing. It was

808
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,440
to build new retail, and, you
know, new apartments and

809
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,800
residential units. And I'm like,
hold on a second. So I start

810
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,260
looking a little further, and it
seems like this is something

811
00:47:07,260 --> 00:47:12,120
that's going on with a number of
people. DJ Khaled, I think Jay

812
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Z's name came up, and then
they're all looking to buy the

813
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,320
viceroy properties, very upscale
hotel like this. Seems like the

814
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,160
guy's either being used or is in
some Cabal, and that's how I

815
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,200
know the girl name. Okay,

816
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,380
Moe Factz: so at the same time
you were doing your

817
00:47:30,380 --> 00:47:33,620
investigation, I was doing my
own independent investigation.

818
00:47:33,619 --> 00:47:35,179
Adam Curry: We didn't know each
other at all,

819
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:40,600
Moe Factz: but we don't have any
connection whatsoever. Well, as

820
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,320
you said, Whenever somebody's
put on a certain level and this,

821
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,540
let me say this. First of all, I
have to say this disclaimer.

822
00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:50,140
This is not anything against
Nipsey Hussle. You know, he was

823
00:47:50,140 --> 00:47:53,980
tragically, I'm saying
attacking, um, but we have to

824
00:47:53,980 --> 00:48:00,960
look and see why they stopped
broadcast television to show his

825
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,520
funeral, only certain people, a
lot I'm saying, are put on that

826
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,440
level. Yes, he was. It's been
stated that he was given the

827
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,820
Michael Jackson funeral.

828
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:15,719
Adam Curry: You're right. Very,
very similar, right,

829
00:48:15,779 --> 00:48:20,179
Moe Factz: very, very similar.
So, so I started digging. And

830
00:48:20,179 --> 00:48:23,899
the same time I was listening to
your show, I was like, we're on

831
00:48:23,899 --> 00:48:27,139
the same path, because you
brought forward the same facts

832
00:48:27,139 --> 00:48:32,779
that you just laid out there. So
right after that, I think the

833
00:48:32,779 --> 00:48:36,619
word was starting to bubble
under the surface, and Jay Z

834
00:48:36,619 --> 00:48:42,639
comes out and convinces people,
via freestyle that gentrifying

835
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:44,799
your own hood is a good thing.

836
00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:47,800
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. It's like,
we might as well do it before

837
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,820
the white man does

838
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:52,540
Moe Factz: right? So this is
what this panel, this think

839
00:48:52,540 --> 00:48:55,600
tank, and that's why I say, I'm
going to show you balance. This

840
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,920
is what the male boots are. Of
the Boulet looks like. Um,

841
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:04,140
they're trying to convince
people that coming in, bringing

842
00:49:04,140 --> 00:49:08,760
big capital into the to into the
hood, is somehow good for the

843
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:15,120
community, is a good thing. So
the the L shape plans that you

844
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:21,860
spoke about, that him and David
gross bought for a couple

845
00:49:21,860 --> 00:49:25,760
million dollars. I first found
this article, uh, when I was

846
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,360
doing my digging, uh, Forbes
magazine. And the title was

847
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,900
inside Nipsey hussles blueprint
to become a real estate mogul.

848
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:38,480
And this was written on February
20. This is prior to his, um, as

849
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,780
untimely death. In there, they
state that they bought the plaza

850
00:49:43,780 --> 00:49:47,200
and they were going to tear it
down, and within 18 months or

851
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,600
so, they were going to knock
everything down, this is quote

852
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,740
the article, and rebuild a six
story residential building on

853
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,820
top of commercial plaza where a
revamped marathon store will be

854
00:49:57,820 --> 00:50:01,080
anchored or will be the anchor
tenant. And I. I actually made a

855
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,340
video about this on my YouTube
channel titled Jay Z and

856
00:50:05,340 --> 00:50:09,180
gentrification. And I go into
this whole article, Jay Z saying

857
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:13,860
we should use eminent domain.
But on that panel, let's listen

858
00:50:13,860 --> 00:50:16,020
to TI explain gentrification. I

859
00:50:16,020 --> 00:50:18,180
Unknown: want to ask a question,
why do you think other people

860
00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:20,160
see gold in our neighborhoods
when we don't

861
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:26,660
well? I think, I think because
it's by design, you know, I do

862
00:50:26,660 --> 00:50:32,360
believe that at a certain point
in time there's a strategy by

863
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,080
the powers that be that sit in
ivory towers and look down and

864
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,260
at all the poverty that exists
and says, Well, we'll just let

865
00:50:39,260 --> 00:50:42,700
that go on for so long, okay,
well, then we'll tear down the

866
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:46,360
projects, and we'll push people
out to the outskirts, and then

867
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,600
we'll get enough people to come
in and invest our money on

868
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,380
things like stadiums and domes.
And because most of the stadiums

869
00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:57,220
and domes are right across the
street from poverty stricken

870
00:50:57,220 --> 00:51:00,720
areas, and so once they build
these stadiums and domes and

871
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:03,780
billions of dollars are being
congested into this community.

872
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,920
Well, then there's nothing left
to do but come by and buy all of

873
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,120
the blighted property in the
area and fix it up. And before

874
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,420
you know it, you got, you know,
white people walking their dog

875
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:20,360
down the street, and that's when
you know, your property just

876
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:20,720
went up.

877
00:51:23,539 --> 00:51:26,899
Adam Curry: Now, isn't this
exactly what Jay Z did with the

878
00:51:26,899 --> 00:51:27,799
with the nets? This

879
00:51:28,340 --> 00:51:31,580
Moe Factz: is exactly what he
did in Brooklyn. They used him

880
00:51:31,580 --> 00:51:36,320
as he was the he was the
blueprint. They put him up front

881
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,580
for the Brooklyn Nets,

882
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,600
Adam Curry: which, which is, I
think if you asked anybody on

883
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,240
the street, they'd say, Oh yeah,
Jay Z owns it, would, I think he

884
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:46,720
owns, like, 0.001% or something.
Really, I

885
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,919
Moe Factz: think it was like,
point two, 5% yes, of the net.

886
00:51:51,099 --> 00:51:54,819
But they used him. They sent him
courtside, yep, like he was

887
00:51:54,819 --> 00:51:58,179
calling the shots. Uh, they used
him because he was from

888
00:51:58,179 --> 00:52:02,759
Brooklyn. Um, in a similar
fashion how they use Nipsey and

889
00:52:03,299 --> 00:52:05,159
and Crenshaw. This

890
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,900
Adam Curry: is actually very
important, in my mind, is the

891
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:13,260
way, and it's entertainment
people in general. It's not a

892
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:18,600
black or white issue. You know,
people have perceived success

893
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,340
and wealth, and a lot of that is
controlled by others, much

894
00:52:22,340 --> 00:52:27,140
higher on the literal pyramid,
and they'll use that ultimately,

895
00:52:27,140 --> 00:52:30,800
for their gains. But it's
disingenuous, and it happens

896
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,300
across the board where, you
know, where people think the

897
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:39,320
Kardashians, I think, is a very
good example, you know, you

898
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,400
know, what's the Kylie. Oh,
she's worth a billion dollars.

899
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,180
You ask anybody, Yep, she's
worth a billion dollars. No, no,

900
00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:50,560
no, she's she's rich. She ain't
that wealthy. And it's because

901
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,260
people who are really running
the show really own the

902
00:52:53,260 --> 00:52:53,980
properties,

903
00:52:54,460 --> 00:52:58,300
Moe Factz: right? So, and this
is what they do, they take not

904
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:02,340
only can you advertise for a
product. But you can advertise

905
00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:09,180
an idea, yes, and this idea has
been, Jay Z was the first to do

906
00:53:09,180 --> 00:53:16,920
it, as far as using a black face
to bring gentrification in.

907
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,180
Because if you know, if you use
the businessman to do it, you'll

908
00:53:20,180 --> 00:53:23,900
get pushback, right? But the way
they shape it is these guys are

909
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:28,400
giving back to the hood now who
will be living in that six story

910
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,260
apartment building that Nipsey
Hussle and his and his business

911
00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:37,700
partner was building. One small
fact, when you go look at the

912
00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:41,200
paperwork, guess whose name is
not on the paperwork.

913
00:53:41,259 --> 00:53:45,819
Adam Curry: Nipsey Hussle,
exactly. Yeah, that figures

914
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:51,580
Moe Factz: it's proven, and it's
so much so that David Gross has

915
00:53:51,580 --> 00:53:56,200
been getting death threats over
this because people feel like he

916
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,280
used Nipsey Hussle,

917
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,500
Adam Curry: why? You know, when
it's so obvious that this

918
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:04,740
happens. Why do people still buy
this? They not care, and

919
00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:07,080
especially people who are living
in the neighborhood that is

920
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:13,380
about to be gentrified. And Jay
Z admits, it says, it says, Hey,

921
00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:17,160
we got to do it before, and he's
in the process of doing it in in

922
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:17,700
Brooklyn,

923
00:54:18,539 --> 00:54:21,079
Moe Factz: it's not the people
that live in the neighborhood

924
00:54:21,139 --> 00:54:25,579
that are for it. It's you
shaping popular opinion of the

925
00:54:25,579 --> 00:54:29,419
people outside, right? That
where the people that you sell

926
00:54:29,419 --> 00:54:34,399
your products to? As we know,
rap music is not majority bought

927
00:54:34,399 --> 00:54:39,139
by black people. No, it's bought
by teenage white girls, exactly.

928
00:54:39,319 --> 00:54:43,179
So with that the case, they got
to make sure they keep it real,

929
00:54:43,179 --> 00:54:46,959
quote, unquote, keep it real so
that you don't seem like you're

930
00:54:46,959 --> 00:54:51,399
selling out. So you keep your
fan base all the while pushing

931
00:54:51,399 --> 00:54:56,439
these capitalistic ideas that
will victimize the people that

932
00:54:56,439 --> 00:54:59,919
live in those neighborhoods,
right? And that's what they do.

933
00:54:59,999 --> 00:55:02,699
So let's, let's listen to why
they use Nipsey Hussle,

934
00:55:03,299 --> 00:55:05,939
Unknown: I think one of the
things I want to point out, and

935
00:55:05,999 --> 00:55:10,199
and you've seen it woven through
the discussion and in today, but

936
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:13,319
the there's a lot of concern
about the opportunity zones,

937
00:55:13,619 --> 00:55:16,739
that money will come into the
community and overwhelm the

938
00:55:16,739 --> 00:55:20,359
community and push people out.
The great thing about our

939
00:55:20,359 --> 00:55:25,999
opportunity is that it
identifies the players and the

940
00:55:25,999 --> 00:55:29,479
value in the community and tries
to get the money behind them.

941
00:55:29,479 --> 00:55:32,299
And so we take someone like
Nipsey Hussle, who's been

942
00:55:32,299 --> 00:55:36,619
demonstrating his skill, his
value, what he can bring to the

943
00:55:36,619 --> 00:55:39,559
neighborhood, and it gets the
resources behind him so that he

944
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:43,239
can own slaloson Plaza. And let
me just point out slawson Plaza.

945
00:55:44,379 --> 00:55:48,699
The Olympics are coming to Los
Angeles in 2028 every person

946
00:55:48,699 --> 00:55:54,459
that takes mass transit from LAX
has to make a train stop at

947
00:55:54,459 --> 00:56:00,539
Sloss and Plaza, every single
person, bar none. So that's the

948
00:56:00,539 --> 00:56:03,839
kind of information we try to,
again, pair together and say,

949
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:05,339
This is a opportunity.

950
00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:09,240
Moe Factz: Now remind me, who is
this speaking that is the

951
00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:13,860
councilman of that I'm saying,
of that district.

952
00:56:15,059 --> 00:56:17,819
Adam Curry: Wow, he was also
know this about the that being

953
00:56:17,819 --> 00:56:20,099
the stop. That's fantastic,
right?

954
00:56:20,099 --> 00:56:22,399
Moe Factz: So I cover that in my
video. If you guys want to go

955
00:56:22,399 --> 00:56:25,219
check that out, and they even
mentioned it in the article.

956
00:56:25,399 --> 00:56:30,259
This is not new. It says. In the
meantime, a light rail line is

957
00:56:30,259 --> 00:56:33,859
rising to link Crenshaw, which
is crucially qualifies as a tax

958
00:56:33,859 --> 00:56:37,219
advantage opportunity zone, to
Los Angeles International

959
00:56:37,219 --> 00:56:43,419
Airport. So this thing is
sitting on a gold mine. Wow, a

960
00:56:43,419 --> 00:56:47,439
gold mine, especially with the
22,028

961
00:56:48,820 --> 00:56:52,780
Adam Curry: Olympics coming now,
to be fair, if, and I don't know

962
00:56:52,780 --> 00:56:58,480
anything about the area, other
than the strip mall, it, yeah,

963
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,580
it would push people out, but it
would, by default, also bring a

964
00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:05,640
lot of money into that very
neighborhood. I mean, I can see

965
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,000
how you can turn around and say,
Yo, yo, yo, but it's gonna bring

966
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,580
money in. It's just, you'll have
to move back a little bit. But I

967
00:57:11,580 --> 00:57:12,960
can see where that would work.

968
00:57:13,739 --> 00:57:16,979
Moe Factz: If you look at my
video, you'll see how they use

969
00:57:16,979 --> 00:57:21,859
the rails system to put people
out of business that were, you

970
00:57:21,859 --> 00:57:24,199
know, the the mom and pop shops
in that community

971
00:57:24,259 --> 00:57:25,579
Adam Curry: that's called
progress. Mo, right,

972
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:29,839
Moe Factz: right. The other
thing is that you cover on the

973
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:33,979
no agenda show is, where do
these people go? Crenshaw was

974
00:57:33,979 --> 00:57:38,059
the last stop for a reason.
Yeah. After that, you living in

975
00:57:38,059 --> 00:57:44,979
RVs tents, you know. So it's
once you take the last refuge

976
00:57:44,979 --> 00:57:49,299
for poor people and like, I'm
not anti capital, I'm not anti

977
00:57:50,379 --> 00:57:55,779
money making. But my problem is
the hypocrisy. Yeah, because

978
00:57:55,779 --> 00:57:59,679
it's one thing I said in this
statement that I just read tax

979
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:02,279
advantage opportunity zone. Do
you know? Do you are you

980
00:58:02,279 --> 00:58:03,119
familiar with that?

981
00:58:03,659 --> 00:58:08,819
Adam Curry: I know, but I can
surmise that it means, if you

982
00:58:08,819 --> 00:58:12,959
commit to putting money into a
certain area, then you will have

983
00:58:12,959 --> 00:58:17,099
tax, no tax, or tax breaks,
maybe even a refund, based upon

984
00:58:17,099 --> 00:58:20,479
what you're doing. Happens all
the time. It's similar to Amazon

985
00:58:20,479 --> 00:58:24,979
coming into, coming into New
York, and getting all kinds of

986
00:58:24,979 --> 00:58:27,199
tax breaks correct.

987
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,260
Moe Factz: And I want to get to
the punchline here. But let's

988
00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:34,760
first, let's listen to TI TI on
the war on drugs. You know,

989
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,240
Unknown: it's giving us a chance
to pass on more to our kids and

990
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,640
just trauma, you know. And, I
think that, you know, we come

991
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,220
from environments where you have
people that are dealing with a

992
00:58:45,220 --> 00:58:47,800
lot of pain, and they're dealing
with a lot of hurt, and I think

993
00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:50,620
environment plays a big role in
that. You know, the conditions

994
00:58:50,620 --> 00:58:52,840
that you grow up in play a big
role in that. A lot of these

995
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,540
brothers and sisters is just
products of their environment.

996
00:58:55,540 --> 00:58:58,000
So I think when you're creating
something like our opportunity,

997
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,180
where you're keeping the money
in the community and you're

998
00:59:00,180 --> 00:59:03,000
providing opportunities for the
community. You're making people

999
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,580
feel like better versions of
themselves, you know. And if you

1000
00:59:05,580 --> 00:59:07,740
feel like a better version of
yourself, if you truly, you

1001
00:59:07,740 --> 00:59:10,200
know, love yourself, you truly
value yourself and appreciate

1002
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,480
yourself and appreciate your
community, then you'll love,

1003
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,940
value and appreciate your
brother and sister. And I think

1004
00:59:14,940 --> 00:59:17,940
that's how you stop, you know,
these generational cycles of

1005
00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:20,360
pain, because I think that all
we end up doing is

1006
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,420
redistributing pain to people
that look just like us, and I

1007
00:59:23,420 --> 00:59:25,220
think this is just one of the
ways to break

1008
00:59:25,220 --> 00:59:28,220
the cycle. I agree, and I don't
think there is enough

1009
00:59:28,220 --> 00:59:34,100
consideration given to the
effects of the so called War on

1010
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:41,200
Drugs, the crack epidemic, mass
incarceration and the project

1011
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:47,260
systems that have plagued these
communities that are now

1012
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:53,080
seemingly investment dreams for
people who didn't have to

1013
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,000
withstand the conditions of

1014
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,820
these environments. You know.

1015
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:01,439
Adam Curry: Thank. For paving
the way. Now get out.

1016
01:00:01,980 --> 01:00:04,620
Moe Factz: The problem with that
statement is a couple issues

1017
01:00:04,620 --> 01:00:07,620
here, one on one side the
conversation you have

1018
01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:10,680
Charlamagne, the God called the
guard. He was saying he's

1019
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:15,300
protecting a woman that
supported mass incarceration.

1020
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,800
He's done it twice, two times in
a row. He was he was pro Hillary

1021
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:26,240
Clinton in a general election,
2016 which we all know her role

1022
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:31,340
in mass incarceration. If you
want to go conspiracy theory, we

1023
01:00:31,340 --> 01:00:33,980
know what the function of Mina
Arkansas was.

1024
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,560
Adam Curry: Yes, that's where
the apparently, the drugs were

1025
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,480
flown and the arms were flown
for the but the drugs came in

1026
01:00:41,020 --> 01:00:45,040
for the Iran Contra deal and
then were sold on the streets of

1027
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,940
Los Angeles,

1028
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,340
Moe Factz: correct? And both of
these guys are Die Hard

1029
01:00:48,340 --> 01:00:51,700
Democrats. On the other side of
the conversation, you have Mr.

1030
01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:57,100
Ti who is one of the founders of
what you call trap rap, which is

1031
01:00:57,100 --> 01:01:02,700
nothing but glorifying saying,
the selling of drugs, the

1032
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:07,140
killing of young black men. And
I want to say this, I enjoy rap

1033
01:01:07,140 --> 01:01:09,900
music just like everybody else.
You look you listen to it like

1034
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,960
you watch a mob movie or
anything else, but when you

1035
01:01:13,020 --> 01:01:17,100
perpetuate it like a lifestyle
to be achieved after that's the

1036
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:19,560
problem I have. And then you
want to say, oh, we need to

1037
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,460
blame the war on drugs. Dude,
they were, they were kicking

1038
01:01:22,460 --> 01:01:25,460
down doors to take out people
like you, right? You, you're

1039
01:01:25,460 --> 01:01:29,420
saying your music is the one
that was supporting this

1040
01:01:29,420 --> 01:01:34,220
lifestyle so much so this guy
even opened a trap music museum

1041
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,680
that looked like a trap house.
And what people don't know, what

1042
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,560
a trap house is the same thing
as a crack house. And so you

1043
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,600
had, you got the stove with them
cooking crack up and all these

1044
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:50,020
things, and you're monetizing
this, um, this, um, negative

1045
01:01:50,020 --> 01:01:53,260
behavior in our community that
tore it down. So, but then you

1046
01:01:53,260 --> 01:01:55,660
want to turn around profit off
the results of it

1047
01:01:56,860 --> 01:01:59,680
Adam Curry: is, uh, so where,
where is Ti in this? I mean,

1048
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,560
what side of the fence is he on?

1049
01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:04,979
Moe Factz: He's on the side of
the money. He's gonna be, he's

1050
01:02:04,979 --> 01:02:07,559
gonna be the face of Atlanta,
right? I mean, what they did was

1051
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:12,359
they found these different hubs.
You have Jay Z in New York, you

1052
01:02:12,359 --> 01:02:17,039
have Nipsey in California, you
have ti in Georgia. I'm sure

1053
01:02:17,039 --> 01:02:20,539
they have somebody in Miami or
Florida or somewhere, all these,

1054
01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:25,399
uh, opportunity zones now, um,
that's, you know what? I've

1055
01:02:25,399 --> 01:02:28,459
killed that horse. I don't want
to keep going down the war, but

1056
01:02:28,459 --> 01:02:32,419
the war on drugs, like I said,
um, dude, you the one that

1057
01:02:32,419 --> 01:02:35,479
you're saying that glorify this
lifestyle that these young men

1058
01:02:35,479 --> 01:02:38,839
go out, go out. And we talked
about how the men were taken out

1059
01:02:38,839 --> 01:02:42,639
of the household, and these
young men without fathers look

1060
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:47,739
up to these rappers, and you've
profited off this lifestyle. And

1061
01:02:47,739 --> 01:02:54,099
let's just to be honest, ti has
been very he's benefited from

1062
01:02:54,219 --> 01:02:57,579
some windfalls from the justice
system as well. He was caught

1063
01:02:57,579 --> 01:03:02,099
with a ray of guns being a
convicted felon, and got, like,

1064
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:06,839
two years, a year or two years,
Tom, come on. So when we look at

1065
01:03:06,839 --> 01:03:09,359
these people, we got to start
asking, why are they getting

1066
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:11,939
off? And then they turn around
and push these political

1067
01:03:13,859 --> 01:03:14,579
motives. So

1068
01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:16,560
Adam Curry: the first thing out,
first thing I'd ask, is, who was

1069
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:23,300
the district attorney where he
was convicted of the weapons

1070
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:23,840
charge.

1071
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,660
Moe Factz: That's a good
question. And why did, why was

1072
01:03:26,660 --> 01:03:29,780
he given such a been on such a
lenient sentence? Well, I don't

1073
01:03:29,780 --> 01:03:33,680
see anybody locked up, but then
when you get out now, you become

1074
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:39,320
this political voice. So much
so, um, I'm going, I've skipped

1075
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,860
over something. I just want to
go back the word opportunities

1076
01:03:41,860 --> 01:03:44,500
home. Now you laid out you said,
it seems like a tax break,

1077
01:03:44,500 --> 01:03:49,060
right? Yeah, it is a tax break.
And guess where it came from.

1078
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:58,840
Trump's 2017 tax plan. I would
drop my mic if it wasn't you're

1079
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,180
saying, yeah, don't

1080
01:04:00,180 --> 01:04:05,400
Adam Curry: it would break if
you did it, right? Wow. Okay,

1081
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,380
Moe Factz: so these guys are out
here benefiting off of track

1082
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:15,780
Trump's opportunity zones. At
the same time, they're anti

1083
01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:20,960
Trump. You're saying speaking to
the masses, but they're getting

1084
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,140
rich off of his saying, off of
his tax cuts. It's like, Oh,

1085
01:04:24,740 --> 01:04:29,240
that is moral standing, and
that's why I'm so animated about

1086
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:33,980
this, because it pisses me off
so bad. Um, let's just listen to

1087
01:04:33,980 --> 01:04:36,920
TI. Um, listen. Talk about
Donald Trump. If you support

1088
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,540
Donald Trump, okay, you know,
sorry, this

1089
01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:46,419
Unknown: one, I seen you taking
some some some shots at Trump,

1090
01:04:46,419 --> 01:04:50,499
making a statement. Well, you
know what I mean? You know

1091
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:52,959
you're telling all your fans,
don't mess

1092
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:57,460
with it. He misuse and abuse his
power to the point where he uses

1093
01:04:57,460 --> 01:05:02,820
his money and his info. Noise to
tell people to do things that

1094
01:05:02,820 --> 01:05:06,720
are harmful to my people. Well,
I just want him to know how

1095
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,760
frowned upon that is in my
community. Start with me if I

1096
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,000
stand on a certain platform and
I use my money and my influence

1097
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,180
and tell a lot of people that
follow me, hey, guess what? You

1098
01:05:18,180 --> 01:05:21,740
go and hurt those people. I will
pay your legal fees, right? I

1099
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,000
will take care of you. If you do
this for me, I will make sure

1100
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,880
that you're strict, that you're
straight, not if I do that, you

1101
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,340
know that's no that's no
different than, you know, than

1102
01:05:31,340 --> 01:05:34,700
how they view the leader of some
of you know, some of the

1103
01:05:34,700 --> 01:05:37,880
organized crime syndicates. So,
I mean, you know what he's doing

1104
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:38,720
is really illegal.

1105
01:05:39,020 --> 01:05:42,520
If a Trump supporter was a fan
of yours. Would you, would you

1106
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,680
let him buy your album? Or would
you say, I don't want your

1107
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:44,920
money?

1108
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,940
I mean, if he, if he supports
all of his actions, man, right

1109
01:05:48,940 --> 01:05:52,180
and wrong. I mean, if he
supports all his actions and

1110
01:05:52,180 --> 01:05:54,700
knowledgeable of how he feels, I
don't want to worry about my

1111
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:57,460
music. I rather he did, because
I just don't think that that's

1112
01:05:57,460 --> 01:06:00,220
that's not the road that I
traveled down. Yeah, something's

1113
01:06:00,220 --> 01:06:01,140
more important than

1114
01:06:02,219 --> 01:06:05,519
Adam Curry: money to read, huh?
Well, of course, we've got to

1115
01:06:05,699 --> 01:06:10,139
denounce the evil Orange Man,
but at the same time, take full

1116
01:06:10,139 --> 01:06:16,619
advantage. And it sounds like
specifically targeting the use

1117
01:06:16,679 --> 01:06:19,619
of the OPT the tax break
opportunity zone.

1118
01:06:20,219 --> 01:06:22,879
Moe Factz: And did you hear what
he said? He said, If you use

1119
01:06:22,879 --> 01:06:26,419
your platform, this knows this
is going to affect my people.

1120
01:06:26,479 --> 01:06:29,779
You know, do you using your
platform to affect our people

1121
01:06:29,779 --> 01:06:33,199
negatively? What are you talking
about? These people live in

1122
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:36,259
these poor neighborhoods because
they have nowhere else to go.

1123
01:06:36,259 --> 01:06:36,559
Now, let

1124
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,680
Adam Curry: me ask a question.
Let me ask a question. These I

1125
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,920
want to understand these
opportunity zones. I never

1126
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,100
really looked into the Trump tax
breaks too deeply, because I

1127
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:52,480
don't think I qualify for the
good stuff. Are these mal intent

1128
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:57,100
these opportunity zones? Or is
the idea good but being misused,

1129
01:06:57,100 --> 01:06:59,380
or is what do you know about
them?

1130
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,420
Moe Factz: I'll let Trump
explain opportunity zones to

1131
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,300
Unknown: you. We want all
Americans to share in our great

1132
01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:10,860
economic renewal. That's why
governors in all 50 states and

1133
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:15,720
the territories have designated
8700 neighborhoods as

1134
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:21,500
opportunity zones. Hard to
believe, 8700 household income

1135
01:07:21,620 --> 01:07:27,860
in these communities is 37% less
than the median income in a

1136
01:07:27,860 --> 01:07:32,180
state as a whole. So it's 37%
down, and we're catching them

1137
01:07:32,180 --> 01:07:36,140
fast. In order to revitalize
these areas, we've lowered the

1138
01:07:36,140 --> 01:07:39,740
capital gains tax for long term
Investment and Opportunity zones

1139
01:07:40,700 --> 01:07:45,820
all the way down to a very big
fat, beautiful number of 00,

1140
01:07:52,059 --> 01:07:54,999
Adam Curry: all right, all
right. Please tell me then that

1141
01:07:54,999 --> 01:08:00,279
these opportunity zones are that
that the rich real estate

1142
01:08:00,279 --> 01:08:05,459
developers are not eligible
directly to do something, but

1143
01:08:05,459 --> 01:08:08,459
the intent was to have the
community themselves develop,

1144
01:08:08,459 --> 01:08:12,779
and then it would make sense
that these opportunity zone

1145
01:08:13,379 --> 01:08:17,279
leeches want to get someone from
that community to be their

1146
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:19,619
figurehead. Is that how it how
it fits together?

1147
01:08:20,039 --> 01:08:22,099
Moe Factz: That's how it fits
together. Damn.

1148
01:08:22,580 --> 01:08:25,100
Adam Curry: That is cynical.
That is cynical

1149
01:08:25,939 --> 01:08:31,279
Moe Factz: and right? And thing
is, is, if you want to be, you

1150
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:34,099
know, capitalistic, if you want
to make money, that's your

1151
01:08:34,099 --> 01:08:39,199
thing. But you can't say you're
for your people and turn around

1152
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:43,179
and use Trump's tax cuts. Who
you say is the boogeyman, who is

1153
01:08:43,179 --> 01:08:46,839
a bad guy? You don't tell black
people how to take advantage of

1154
01:08:46,839 --> 01:08:49,419
these things until they're all
sold up. I mean all the

1155
01:08:49,419 --> 01:08:51,519
property. I mean all the
properties been we were in 2019

1156
01:08:52,299 --> 01:08:54,399
now, when they start talking
about these things, the tax

1157
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:57,759
thing, the tax bill, went
through it in 2017 two years

1158
01:08:57,759 --> 01:09:02,459
later, all the good properties
been bought up, right? Um, so

1159
01:09:02,459 --> 01:09:06,659
it's just, it just drives me
crazy. Just,

1160
01:09:07,619 --> 01:09:09,959
Adam Curry: I just want to make
sure okay. Do you know the

1161
01:09:09,959 --> 01:09:12,839
stipulations about these
opportunities? What I'm worried

1162
01:09:12,839 --> 01:09:16,799
about now that I hear this is
that these opportunity zones

1163
01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:21,739
were always meant for rich
developers, ie, you know, Donald

1164
01:09:21,739 --> 01:09:25,399
Trump's and other cities to go
around and gentrify everything.

1165
01:09:25,579 --> 01:09:28,519
Or, do you know if there were
stipulations that you know you

1166
01:09:28,519 --> 01:09:31,099
couldn't just do that as a
regular developer? I mean, do

1167
01:09:31,099 --> 01:09:32,779
you know any of the background
of that? No,

1168
01:09:32,779 --> 01:09:35,599
Moe Factz: it's the wild wild
west. If you got money you want

1169
01:09:35,719 --> 01:09:40,359
to invest in the opportunity
zones and like, let's just go

1170
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:43,719
not all opportunity zones are
created equal.

1171
01:09:44,979 --> 01:09:47,799
Unknown: Yes, got it. On the one
hand, you've got places like

1172
01:09:47,799 --> 01:09:51,219
Puerto Rico, basically the
entire island is an opportunity

1173
01:09:51,219 --> 01:09:54,519
zone, and they are clearly in
need of fresh investment. On the

1174
01:09:54,519 --> 01:09:57,699
other hand, you've got places
like the affluent DC suburbs,

1175
01:09:57,879 --> 01:10:00,359
right outside of Washington, the
neighborhood where. Local

1176
01:10:00,359 --> 01:10:04,559
officials are trying to lure
Amazon's HQ to that is also an

1177
01:10:04,559 --> 01:10:07,919
opportunity zone. So that report
from Brookings found that of the

1178
01:10:07,979 --> 01:10:12,959
8700 opportunity zones across
the country, 11% have poverty

1179
01:10:12,959 --> 01:10:16,619
rates that are actually below
the national average. College

1180
01:10:16,619 --> 01:10:19,319
towns like the one around Texas
A and M and the University of

1181
01:10:19,319 --> 01:10:22,819
Southern California, they also
qualified, so the report

1182
01:10:22,819 --> 01:10:25,579
questions whether this program
will really direct money to

1183
01:10:25,579 --> 01:10:28,459
distressed communities, or
whether it's just another tax

1184
01:10:28,459 --> 01:10:31,879
haven for the rich. Now the
Treasury Department says that it

1185
01:10:31,879 --> 01:10:34,999
intentionally gave states a lot
of flexibility to choose which

1186
01:10:34,999 --> 01:10:37,759
neighborhoods make the cut, and
supporters argue they had to

1187
01:10:37,759 --> 01:10:40,839
strike a balance and look for
places that need the investment,

1188
01:10:40,899 --> 01:10:44,379
but also have market potential
guys, investors are just now

1189
01:10:44,379 --> 01:10:47,139
starting to raise money and
understand how this program is

1190
01:10:47,139 --> 01:10:50,799
going to work. 2019, will be the
real test of whether the cash

1191
01:10:50,799 --> 01:10:54,399
gets to communities that need
it. Back over to you. Okay,

1192
01:10:54,399 --> 01:10:59,199
Adam Curry: so regardless, the
smart way, the smart money to

1193
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:02,879
shield themselves from
criticism. Got a lot of these

1194
01:11:02,939 --> 01:11:07,199
guys and brought them in and
said, Okay, here's your here's

1195
01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:10,499
your cut, and now let's it's all
you and you're great for your

1196
01:11:10,499 --> 01:11:12,959
community. And let's go and do
it.

1197
01:11:13,020 --> 01:11:15,060
Moe Factz: Yep, that's how it
works. And the other thing is,

1198
01:11:15,060 --> 01:11:19,260
if you, if you listen to closely
in that clip, only 11% of the

1199
01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:25,640
opportunity zones are in poor
neighborhoods. Oh, yeah, so, and

1200
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,200
this is where I get pissed. That
was

1201
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,700
Adam Curry: the that was the
governor's choice, if I

1202
01:11:28,700 --> 01:11:31,280
understood the clip properly.
But this

1203
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,100
Moe Factz: is where I get I'm
saying a little pissed at Trump

1204
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:35,600
and

1205
01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:39,860
Adam Curry: Ben Carson. Right?
Carson would be involved in that

1206
01:11:39,860 --> 01:11:41,980
is right. This is hood. This

1207
01:11:41,979 --> 01:11:46,719
Moe Factz: is all hood. What
they did was they took the easy

1208
01:11:46,719 --> 01:11:49,419
way out. Say thanks. You pick
where the opportunity,

1209
01:11:49,419 --> 01:11:53,199
opportunity zones are. We won't
push back. I mean, coach like,

1210
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:57,699
um, so everybody's, you know,
saying, you know, saying

1211
01:11:57,699 --> 01:12:02,639
absolved or any blame, and
nothing goes to help. The

1212
01:12:02,639 --> 01:12:06,299
majority of what this has been
labeled as helping poor people,

1213
01:12:06,539 --> 01:12:09,059
and the poor people that the
poor neighborhood that actually

1214
01:12:09,059 --> 01:12:13,499
help at the people be displaced.
So it's just going to be totally

1215
01:12:13,499 --> 01:12:19,679
negative, negative for poor
people. Um, so I mean, like you

1216
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:22,999
said, if there's nothing there.
They won't call it an

1217
01:12:22,999 --> 01:12:25,879
opportunity zone. And then the
money won't flow there, right?

1218
01:12:25,879 --> 01:12:28,879
And this is where, this is where
I get pissed at, back at Jay Z

1219
01:12:28,879 --> 01:12:36,319
and TI and these people only 11%
Yeah, I'm big on percentages.

1220
01:12:37,939 --> 01:12:40,339
Let's go with the reparation
thing. You can't give me 10%

1221
01:12:40,759 --> 01:12:43,119
you're saying I'm not gonna take
the kind of cut, right? Cut,

1222
01:12:43,119 --> 01:12:48,099
right? You can't say this is
opportunity zones only 11% and I

1223
01:12:48,099 --> 01:12:53,199
know why they use 11% so you can
say over 10% you know talking

1224
01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:57,579
points. I know how this game
works. Yeah, that's a weird

1225
01:12:57,579 --> 01:13:02,759
number to use 11% but this money
is not going to flow where it

1226
01:13:02,759 --> 01:13:05,339
needs to help at all.

1227
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,860
Adam Curry: So it was, it was
always a failed program to start

1228
01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:08,940
with. It

1229
01:13:08,940 --> 01:13:12,840
Moe Factz: was a vehicle for
when Trump allowed his you're

1230
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,200
saying the rich to bring their
money back on shore, right,

1231
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:21,200
right, right. They needed a tax
shelter. And they said, Hmm,

1232
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:27,440
what tax shelter? Can we create
great idea, opportunity zones

1233
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:32,600
the left, not the left, but the
guys that's supposed to be anti

1234
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,940
Trump love it because it's a
great word opportunity. They're

1235
01:13:34,940 --> 01:13:37,820
throwing this word opportunity
around, like, you know, like,

1236
01:13:37,820 --> 01:13:42,400
change in 2008 it was like, oh,
yeah, opportunity, opportunity

1237
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:46,960
for everybody. Yeah, no, this.
This only benefits people with

1238
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,360
capital gains. And I had a
conversation with one of my

1239
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,700
friends. He's in the real
estate, he's an entrepreneur,

1240
01:13:52,180 --> 01:13:54,820
and he doesn't make enough
capital gains to take advantage

1241
01:13:54,820 --> 01:13:57,340
of this. And if he wanted to
take advantage, I wouldn't have

1242
01:13:57,340 --> 01:13:59,680
a problem with him, because he's
not out here preaching in the

1243
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,840
streets about being, you know,
being a social justice warrior

1244
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,360
and a change agent, you know,
he's trying to make, you're

1245
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,820
saying, make good on, you know,
on his investments. I don't have

1246
01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:11,940
any problem with that. It's the
hypocrisy I have a problem with.

1247
01:14:12,300 --> 01:14:13,140
And somehow I

1248
01:14:13,140 --> 01:14:16,200
Adam Curry: got a feeling that
hedge fund that Charlemagne was

1249
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,800
talking about may be involved in
some of these opportunity zones.

1250
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,560
And am I stealing that? Right?
Mo,

1251
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,840
Moe Factz: and you don't even
have to invest. Here's the other

1252
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,600
thing, and you'll see this in my
video, you don't even have to

1253
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,680
invest your money into the zone
itself. They create what's

1254
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:35,480
called an opportunity fund. So
it's a fund is created, yeah.

1255
01:14:35,540 --> 01:14:39,680
And you invest your money into
fund, yeah. And then, and the

1256
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,720
thing, here's a kicker, only 30%
and now look at this. Listen to

1257
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,240
these percentages. I know I'm a
little animated today, but it

1258
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:52,120
just I mean this is this really
gets into my skin. So 11% of all

1259
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:57,100
opportunity zones are important
neighborhoods, and then 30% of

1260
01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:00,360
your business only has to take
place in an opportunity. Zone.

1261
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,179
Adam Curry: I'm laughing, but
it's so cruel,

1262
01:15:07,319 --> 01:15:12,239
Moe Factz: right? Who are we
helping here? And you know what?

1263
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:15,119
I don't even know if it's a good
thing or bad thing. If only 11%

1264
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,319
because Jesus Christ, if it was
50 or 60% you have wiped out

1265
01:15:19,319 --> 01:15:21,079
homeless people everywhere.
Yeah,

1266
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,800
Adam Curry: wow. Okay, all

1267
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,740
Moe Factz: right, so let's look
at the concerns of opportunity

1268
01:15:27,740 --> 01:15:28,760
zones. Well, the

1269
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,380
Unknown: government is
sweetening the deal for

1270
01:15:30,380 --> 01:15:32,840
investors who put their money
into San Diego's most

1271
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,660
underserved neighborhoods. It's
a potential solution to our

1272
01:15:35,660 --> 01:15:38,420
housing crisis that we're
exploring as part of our making

1273
01:15:38,420 --> 01:15:40,300
it in San Diego initiative. Our
tennis

1274
01:15:40,300 --> 01:15:43,180
reporter John horn explains why
longtime residents are concerned

1275
01:15:43,180 --> 01:15:47,320
that plan could backfire. This
intersection overlooks much of

1276
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,440
the Colina Del Sol neighborhood
here in the City Heights area.

1277
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,860
It's a part of San Diego that
Zillow says is ripe for new

1278
01:15:53,860 --> 01:15:55,540
housing. It's been expensive to
live here,

1279
01:15:55,540 --> 01:15:57,400
but it's expensive to live
anywhere. Tommy

1280
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,020
Barnett has called Colina Del
Sol home for the past nine

1281
01:16:01,020 --> 01:16:04,740
years, the price, like
everywhere else, going up,

1282
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,400
starting at 12 or 13 for a one
bedroom. Still, the government

1283
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:13,260
designated this area as an
opportunity zone, or as the IRS

1284
01:16:13,260 --> 01:16:17,100
puts it, economically
distressed. Our region has about

1285
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:21,500
30 of these zones. Most in the
city of San Diego's inner core.

1286
01:16:21,500 --> 01:16:21,740
There's

1287
01:16:21,740 --> 01:16:24,980
nothing around. There's no area
for you to be able to buy or

1288
01:16:24,980 --> 01:16:26,360
place any new building on.

1289
01:16:26,359 --> 01:16:30,379
That now appears to be changing
the opportunity Zone Program

1290
01:16:30,379 --> 01:16:35,119
part of 2017 tax reform offers
tax breaks to investors who

1291
01:16:35,119 --> 01:16:38,719
inject their dollars into these
neighborhoods, but instead of

1292
01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:42,159
making life more affordable,
Zillow says home prices in

1293
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:44,979
opportunity zones grew 20% in

1294
01:16:44,979 --> 01:16:48,219
a year. There are still as many
questions as there are answers

1295
01:16:48,219 --> 01:16:49,119
out there. Eric

1296
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,240
tilkemeyer Does economic
development in city heights,

1297
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,380
also an opportunity zone. He's
working with policymakers to

1298
01:16:56,380 --> 01:16:59,500
make sure the new investments
benefit the community. We're

1299
01:16:59,500 --> 01:16:59,800
Park

1300
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,060
deficient. Our sidewalks are
deplorable in a number of

1301
01:17:03,060 --> 01:17:05,940
neighborhoods are the
walkability is not, is not what

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01:17:05,940 --> 01:17:09,960
it should be. The challenge is
all of those same improvements

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01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,580
tend to cause gentrification,

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01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:14,760
in other words, keeping
residents like Barnett from

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01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,480
being priced out of their own
neighborhoods. John horn 10

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01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:18,960
News,

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01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,280
Adam Curry: so I looked up I
live in Austin, Texas,

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01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:27,980
opportunity zones in the city of
Austin. There are 21 census

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01:17:27,980 --> 01:17:31,760
tracks designed as opportunity
zones in the city of Austin. And

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01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,460
this is something that you may
not know, but when I when an

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01:17:34,460 --> 01:17:38,420
Austinite reads, the majority of
zones are located to the east of

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01:17:38,420 --> 01:17:43,600
interstate 35 which is where I
live, and I see what's going on

1313
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,680
here. Bingo makes total sense.

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01:17:50,620 --> 01:17:55,120
Moe Factz: And just to bring it
full circle, now you see why I

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01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:59,980
am hesitant when people say
government programs, yeah, when

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01:17:59,980 --> 01:18:03,540
they talk about reparations. No,
right?

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01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:05,820
Adam Curry: You could even fold
this into a reparations

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01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,860
Assistance Program. Is

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01:18:07,859 --> 01:18:11,099
Moe Factz: that, and this is
how, just the now we're we back

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01:18:11,099 --> 01:18:15,719
where we started. This is when
Kamala Harris, black, what was,

1321
01:18:15,719 --> 01:18:18,839
what was it? The, uh, the
housing program she had, you

1322
01:18:18,839 --> 01:18:23,059
covered it, um, that was gonna
help, help black people that she

1323
01:18:23,059 --> 01:18:24,619
spoke about the essence
festival,

1324
01:18:24,740 --> 01:18:31,640
Adam Curry: oh, it's the yes,
it's no, it's okay. It was the

1325
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:37,460
low income something. But it
turned out was like a combined

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01:18:37,460 --> 01:18:42,040
under had to be under $100,000
of income, and that would be, I

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01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:46,060
think, to help people purchase
first homes. Or, I'm a little

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01:18:46,060 --> 01:18:49,480
little shaky on it, but I do
remember the bar was set very

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01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:53,380
high, at $100,000 which would
mean, no way is that just for

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01:18:53,380 --> 01:18:54,040
poor people.

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01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,760
Moe Factz: So what you have is
two college graduates just

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01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:59,800
coming out of college, or one
college graduate that's,

1333
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:03,000
understand, gainfully employed
that falls just under that bar,

1334
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,380
and they'll come in and buy a
condo in these gentrified areas.

1335
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,000
You've talked about it before,
how the people are okay with

1336
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,700
living with next to nothing,
these micro apartments, open

1337
01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:18,600
air, open air, dorm rooms. Oh,
my God, it's

1338
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,460
Adam Curry: right in South
Austin on Congress Avenue.

1339
01:19:22,460 --> 01:19:25,220
They're building micro
apartments. It's, it's, and

1340
01:19:25,220 --> 01:19:28,100
it's, you know, right near the
the main hub of the city,

1341
01:19:28,220 --> 01:19:32,420
they're going to be, I think,
something like 400 square feet

1342
01:19:32,420 --> 01:19:34,040
or something, right?

1343
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,880
Moe Factz: And I covered that in
my video, like I said, I've been

1344
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,680
on this beat for a minute, but
it's just funny that it popped

1345
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:46,180
up. Charlemagne is on this panel
this think tank, and this is

1346
01:19:46,180 --> 01:19:49,600
what the Boulet looks like,
folks. You have politicians,

1347
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:55,360
entertainers, media, and you
have white backing money.

1348
01:19:55,480 --> 01:19:59,080
Forbes. Forbes is one that
hosted, and for the females, you

1349
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:03,300
had politicians. In media, they
didn't have any entertainers,

1350
01:20:03,900 --> 01:20:07,380
but they showed you what how
important the entertainers were

1351
01:20:07,380 --> 01:20:10,020
when they said that Beyonce and
Oprah and them were replaced

1352
01:20:10,020 --> 01:20:15,540
Jesus and yes, yes, yes. So you
see these, and it was backed by

1353
01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:22,460
the Brookings Institute. So you
see these, large majority white,

1354
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:29,840
uh, groups funding how black
people should think. And I'm

1355
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,560
not, this is where I what gets
me. This is not for your

1356
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:39,680
everyday working class black
person, no, this is to get us in

1357
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,520
line to vote the way they wants
to vote, to think the way they

1358
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:47,800
wants to think, while the top
10% Boole, talented 10th,

1359
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,220
whatever you want to call them,
profit off of steering us the

1360
01:20:51,220 --> 01:20:54,100
way they want to go. And this
is, this is why I do this show,

1361
01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:57,700
Adam, this is why I do the show,
because it gives me a platform

1362
01:20:58,540 --> 01:21:04,080
to one break down the media. I
learned a lot from you and John

1363
01:21:04,380 --> 01:21:10,200
on how to do this, to take what
the media does and turn it

1364
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,500
around on them. And you know,
and you know, really break it

1365
01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:17,340
down. And two, to make people
show show people that have power

1366
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:21,800
if you know how they're going to
come at you, yes

1367
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,920
Adam Curry: and and you really
blew my mind with this one,

1368
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,680
because I, if there's anything I
follow very closely, it's

1369
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,820
chronic unhoused. I don't, I
don't like saying homeless,

1370
01:21:31,820 --> 01:21:35,300
because a home, if you look in
the dictionary, has nothing to

1371
01:21:35,300 --> 01:21:38,240
do with a shelter. It is
literally your community, your

1372
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,260
people. So you can be living
under I 35 and you can be that

1373
01:21:41,260 --> 01:21:44,560
can be your home, but the
unhoused, and I've been to San

1374
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,080
Diego, I've been to San Jose,
I've lived in San Francisco,

1375
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:51,580
I've lived in Los Angeles. It
appears to me now, with taking

1376
01:21:51,580 --> 01:21:54,160
all this information into
account, that a lot of the

1377
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,880
chronic homelessness we're
seeing, to use that word, is it

1378
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,020
could possibly be from these
opportunity zones.

1379
01:22:02,460 --> 01:22:05,820
Moe Factz: They're economic
refugees. And

1380
01:22:07,319 --> 01:22:11,879
Adam Curry: looking at some
important dates, there's a

1381
01:22:11,939 --> 01:22:16,139
December, 31 2019 which is, I
guess, is phase one of the

1382
01:22:16,139 --> 01:22:22,319
opportunity zone. And then
there's 2920 2120 2620 28 and

1383
01:22:22,319 --> 01:22:31,579
wow. That's mind blowing. So in
almost directly, this tax cut

1384
01:22:32,539 --> 01:22:38,179
could be fueling people have
living in cars and vans and RVs,

1385
01:22:39,260 --> 01:22:41,800
Moe Factz: you know what? And
although I although they're not

1386
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,020
Adam Curry: white in all,
they're not black and awesome,

1387
01:22:44,020 --> 01:22:46,360
the unhoused are predominantly
white.

1388
01:22:46,779 --> 01:22:50,019
Moe Factz: It's this is
important, and this is another

1389
01:22:50,019 --> 01:22:54,279
reason for this show we have to
get past not and I know I'm not

1390
01:22:54,279 --> 01:22:57,339
living in a colorblind society.
This is we've had this talk

1391
01:22:57,339 --> 01:22:59,919
before. We need a need for black
people. We need a need for white

1392
01:22:59,919 --> 01:23:04,079
people. We don't need to be
homogenous society. I like, you

1393
01:23:04,079 --> 01:23:06,719
know, saying pockets of
different cultures, and we all

1394
01:23:06,719 --> 01:23:10,439
contributed what we bring to the
table. But we have to realize we

1395
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:15,299
have a common enemy, and the
common enemy is the elite. Yeah,

1396
01:23:15,419 --> 01:23:18,899
they look at us as an
inconvenience, and anytime they

1397
01:23:18,899 --> 01:23:24,259
can make $1 or uh, one uh, 1/10
of a percent, you're saying more

1398
01:23:24,259 --> 01:23:29,359
profit. It doesn't matter who it
impacts, you know, uh, move is

1399
01:23:29,359 --> 01:23:34,459
how you look at it, you know,
um, pack up and move, yeah. And

1400
01:23:34,459 --> 01:23:38,359
where it really hits home at is
if you have say, Okay, say, in

1401
01:23:38,359 --> 01:23:41,799
my case, if my parents owned a
home and, you know, and they

1402
01:23:41,799 --> 01:23:45,639
left it to me, they willed it to
me, and it was $100,000 and now

1403
01:23:45,819 --> 01:23:51,879
this opportunity zone drives up
to 200 $250,000 would I sell? I

1404
01:23:51,879 --> 01:23:58,299
don't know, right? But when you
do, when you sell that, or you

1405
01:23:58,299 --> 01:24:00,719
have apartment building, you
know, it's in this and you know,

1406
01:24:00,719 --> 01:24:04,259
you're doing section eight, and
these programs, when you sell

1407
01:24:04,259 --> 01:24:08,279
it, where do those people go?
That these these neighborhoods,

1408
01:24:08,279 --> 01:24:12,599
whether it's white or black, is
the last stop. And me and my

1409
01:24:12,599 --> 01:24:14,999
friend, I know we might be going
a little long, but I just want

1410
01:24:14,999 --> 01:24:18,899
to make this one last point.
It's like Monopoly, you know, I

1411
01:24:18,899 --> 01:24:22,519
mean how the board is set up,
and the first two stops on

1412
01:24:22,519 --> 01:24:26,479
monopoly are the dark purple
pieces. But when you get hotels

1413
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:31,159
on those you have nowhere to
stay, right? You're poor. End up

1414
01:24:31,159 --> 01:24:32,299
in a monopoly game.

1415
01:24:35,420 --> 01:24:38,180
Adam Curry: It's a great analogy
for life, isn't it?

1416
01:24:38,180 --> 01:24:41,620
Moe Factz: Right? You just pray
that you don't land on anywhere

1417
01:24:41,620 --> 01:24:45,640
you can afford but there's
nowhere to land except jail or

1418
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:46,900
free parking. That's it.

1419
01:24:47,319 --> 01:24:50,259
Adam Curry: Wow, how that how
that mimics life is just

1420
01:24:50,259 --> 01:24:53,859
frightening, frightening mode.
Thank you so much for opening my

1421
01:24:53,859 --> 01:24:57,159
eyes to that. I got to spend the
rest of the day looking at these

1422
01:24:57,519 --> 01:25:01,199
opportunity zones and where they
are. This is. Blow my mind. It

1423
01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:03,419
really is. I

1424
01:25:03,420 --> 01:25:06,420
Moe Factz: appreciate every
Monday we have Adam, yeah, it's

1425
01:25:06,780 --> 01:25:07,440
opportunity

1426
01:25:08,340 --> 01:25:10,800
Adam Curry: Yes, well, we got,
we got our own opportunity zone,

1427
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,620
and we'll do it again for you
next Monday with the next

1428
01:25:13,620 --> 01:25:16,800
installment of Mo facts with
Adam curry. Thanks, Mo, talk to

1429
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:17,460
you next week. All

1430
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,080
Moe Factz: right. See you next
week, Adam.

1431
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,960
Adam Curry: All right. Bye, bye.
Everybody

1432
01:25:42,020 --> 01:25:44,080
Unknown: wants some covid. Your
friend. You mean more than

1433
01:25:45,820 --> 01:25:49,000
anything, I'm your pusher, Man.
I'm your pusher thank

1434
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:15,120
push it back.

